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A
Yeah,
we
can
record
this
if
you,
if
you
got,
got
it
yes,.
A
Okay,
yeah,
no
that's
cool
yeah,
yeah
yeah!
So
on
our
side
here,
the
we
freeze-proofed
like
kind
of
blew
out
the
pipes
for
the
different
houses,
we're
winter
safe,
we're
yeah.
My
mind
is
like
yeah
still
gotta
finish
that
house,
so
I'm
playing
out
the
just
just
spending
actually
quite
a
bit
of
time,
still
doing
some
optimization
of
the
design
because,
for
example
like
like
say
the
bathroom
kitchen
stuff,
like
that's,
we've
got
the
concept,
but
it's
not
technically
designing
it.
A
So
before
I'm
going
to
go
out
there
and
build
that,
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
the
design
build
docs
as
well,
which
all
goes
into
the
big
dock,
the
big
documentation
of
how
we
make
this
an
excellent
experience
for
people
where
everything
is
well
documented
and
really
streamlining
everything.
So
we're
you
know,
narrowing
things
down
like
the
latest
latest
thing
was
just
deciding
on
vinyl,
siding
of
all
all
else.
As
the
way
to
go.
We
were
doing
with
the
wood
panels.
A
Then
we
tried
to
go
to
the
these
fiber
cement
panels
explored
that
I
think
vinyl
siding.
That's
also
going
to
look
very
attractive
because
we're
going
to
put
like
wood
trim
like
cedar,
trim
on
that
and
stuff
like
that,
so
a
lot
of
different
optimizations
happening,
but
really
thinking
yeah
man,
like
I
mentioned
250
bucks
an
hour
come
to
our
school.
A
A
I
basically
did
all
the
stuff
that
we
have
all
the
design
lessons
and
I
did
a
big
throw
down
of
here's
five
days
a
week
times
it
was
like
200
getting
towards
like
200
lessons
just
granular
topic
by
topic:
here's
the
like
the
technical
training,
but
also,
let
me
just
send
you
the
link
link
this.
So
you
know
as
saturday.
I
did
this,
but
the
idea
there
is.
A
It
would
be
a
hard
sell
to
charge
a
person
25
000
for
a
college
level
thing
without
accreditation
without
certification,
but
that's
kind
of
how
I
want
to
play
it
like
this
year
we
had
170k
revenue,
that's
actually
better
than
we've
ever
done
like
from
programmatic
revenue.
We
did
a
kickstarter.
We
did
maybe
like
120k
one
year,
we're
like
170.,
so
it's
actually
going
up
a
little
bit.
That's
cool,
seeing
some
product
of
that,
but,
as
I
think
about
the
next
step,
the
apprenticeship,
the
the
super
short
time.
A
It's
just
that's
that's
the
bothersome
stuff.
It's
not
enough
to
communicate
this
like
when
I
think
about
the
long-term
survival
of
this
work.
Ain't
gonna
happen
without
cloning.
More
of
me,
people
who
can
go
through
that
whole
design
process
so
starts
by
learn
to
design
and
build
anything
learn
how
to
collaborate,
learn
how
to
solve
problems
by
first
identifying
them
so
that
the
three-step
program,
but
it
would
take
like
four
years,
I'm
excited
about
teaching
that,
but
how
the
hell
are
we
gonna
do
that
all
I'm
gonna
do
is
go
forward.
A
Okay,
here's
the
curriculum
on
one
side,
and
maybe,
if
you
do
this
four-year
school,
possibly
in
the
background
of
it
is
if
we
have
the
house
as
a
real
enterprise,
then,
as
I
mentioned,
drop
out,
become
a
redneck
and
still
make
250
bucks
an
hour
kind
of
thing.
But
that's
that's
where
I'm
at
in
my
psychology.
A
The
thing
that
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
is
going
to
the
future
with
the
experience
of
the
apprenticeship
where
I
was
hoping
that
oh
yeah
we're
going
to
get
all
these
people
ready
to
do
all
this
stuff.
No,
it
takes
more
time,
but
we
got
to
get
there
to
the
point
where
we
got
the
longer
programs.
There's
gonna
be
much
attrition
just
like
there
was
much
attrition
this
year,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
explore
it
and
and
make
it
happen.
So
that's
my
update.
B
Awesome,
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
that
I
think
I
think
the
work
we're
about
to
do
is
a
step
in
that
process.
A
We
know
that
two-story
is
much
harder
than
one
and
the
current
model
that
we
have,
that
we're
deploying
is
the
two-story
one
and
that's
just
just
kind
of
in
the
back
of
my
mind
as
something
like
katarina
mentions:
oh
yeah,
since
wait,
do
we
talk
about
the
the
idea
of
micro
house,
micro
houses
or
tiny
houses?
No,
we
haven't,
but.
A
Yeah
like
after
I
talked
to
you,
I
she
was
like.
Oh
what
do
we
do
and
she
of
course
says
as
a
woman-
and
you
know
less
physical
like
to
me,
it
was
like.
I
never
really
noticed
the
two-story
thing
until
this
year,
because
whenever
we
did
it,
we
had
a
big
swarm
and
it
was
great,
it
was
fun,
but
yeah
it
is.
A
A
Right
off
the
ground,
but
anyway
that's
just
something:
I'm
throwing
out
there
because
maybe
there's
a.
A
There's
a
possibility
of
reframing
that
towards
micro
house
builds
or
smaller
house
builds,
or
maybe
like
the
workshop,
is
the
500
square
feet,
which
is
not
the
two
stories,
maybe
just
the
first
floor
or
something
now
katrina
mentioned
that
how
about
if
we
do
it,
where
you
br,
you
build
your
micro
house
on
wheels
your
tiny
house,
but
I'm
just
not
seeing
a
revenue
model
with
that
like
how
many
people
are
gonna.
A
Like
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
seeing
a
revenue
model
on
it.
I
could
see
like
charging
decent
money
for
a
bunch
of
people
to
show
up,
because
we
had
18
people
show
up
to
this
this
time
around,
but
the
people
who
are
gonna
get
their
micro
house
on
wheels
or
their
tiny
house
they'll
be
excited,
but
how
many
people
are
you
gonna
would
also
be
paying
clients
for
that.
So
I
don't
know
I'm
not
seeing
a
clear
yeah.
B
Well,
it's
definitely
not
a
fully
developed
market,
so
you
so
I
can
say
I'm
confident.
There's
a
market
for
tiny
houses.
The
people
who
are
building
them
currently
have
enough
time
and
income
to
do
it
on
their
own,
and
so
the
service
you
would
be
selling
that
existing
population
is
a
rapid
construction
at
a
discount,
basically
because
they're
going
to
get
the
efficiencies
of
the
osce
method,
and
so
you
would
want
to
design
the
revenue
model
around.
B
B
They
buy,
a
van
live
out
of
it
and
just
travel
around
the
country,
and
so
potentially
what
you
could
do
is
market
to
them
and
say,
like
you,
don't
need
to
buy
a
van
and
and
trick
it
out.
You
just
need
to
get
a
vehicle
that
can
tow
a
tiny
house
that
you're
going
to
build
we're
going
to
teach
you
how
to
do
it.
That
to
me,
could
be
a
a
huge
opportunity.
B
The
only
problem
is,
the
revenue
model
would
have
to
be
set
up
for
like
couples
or
singletons
to
be
able
to
afford
to
to
show
up,
build
the
house
and
then
drive
it
off.
In
other
words,
like
the
swarm
build,
is
you're
envisioning,
a
crew
of
people
who
are
going
to
build
this
house
and
then
sell
to
a
client
under
the
model.
You
just
described
it's
people
who
are
going
to
be
the
owners
of
the
house.
B
You
know,
I
think
if
the
ratio
were
two
people
per
tiny
home
and
then
you
just
up
the
amount
you
charge
them,
because
it's
going
to
take
longer
to
build
with
two
people,
but
like
that
that
that
is
the
unit
economics
to
me,
tiny
home,
you,
you
know,
if
they're
they're
going
to
drive
it
off
the
lot,
then,
unless
you,
unless
you
separate
it
to
people
who
are
just
showing
up
for
the
instruction
and
learn
how
to
do
it
and
the
only
two
or
one
of
the
people
are
part
of
the
crew.
A
Ooh,
nice
branding
top
left.
A
A
No,
no!
No!
No!
No
don't
do
it
page,
four
right.
What
do
you
think
about
that
two
weeks,
two
weeks,
48
people,
but
how
do
you
get
12
people
to
you
get
a
couple?
How
do
you
get
10
people
to
support
them
and
pay
for
this
experience?
Maybe
maybe
it's
like
very
low
cost?
It's
like.
B
A
Get
the
home
pay
a
bit
pay
a
lot
for
the
service
right
well,
in
two
weeks,
this.
B
Year
this
may
this
this
may
be
out
of
like
may
not
work
economically.
But
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
cost
in
terms
of
time
and
money,
that
two
people
would
take
to
build
a
tiny
house
house
on
their
own
like
they're,
currently
doing
I
bet
you,
you
could
still
come
under
that
number
and
put
it
on
the
shoulders
of
the
two.
B
People
are
actually
going
to
take
the
home
off
the
lot
as
the
owners
and
maybe
even
compensate
so
like
the
money
like
you
could
potentially
pay
the
support
people
out
of
the
cost
of
the
home
that
the
people
are
buying
they're,
just
they're
still
getting
a
discount
relative
to
what
they
would
have
to
do
if
they
were
doing
this
on
their
own.
So
you're
like
you're,
basically
saying
like.
If
you
have
the
money
in
two
weeks
of
your
time,
you
can
show
up
and
drive
a
tiny
home
off
of
the
lot.
A
B
A
Yeah,
it
could
be
a
wide
range,
like
I
don't
know,
like
yeah
without
speaking,
but
a
figure
that
comes
to
mind.
Like
maybe
say,
30k
you
can
pay
60k,
you
can
pay
100k,
but
for
van
life.
Is
that
a
thing?
That's
that's
based
on
that's,
typically,
that
comes
out
of
like
army
people.
B
B
So
this
is
someone
I
have
a
relationship
with
through
social
media
and
she's,
a
she's,
a
vet,
and
she
published
this
blog
when
she
separated
from
the
military
and
then
spent
a
year
or
two
on
the
road
doing
the
van
thing
and
she's
got
a
bunch
of
followers
and
it's
just
like
a
cool
person.
You
call
her
an
influencer,
but
I
she
would
be
my
the
first
person
I
would
go
to
to
ask
like
hey
this.
Is
this
is
sort
of
what
we're
thinking?
A
When
when
one
says
van
life
is
that,
but
you
said
what
you
said,
it
happens
that
the
person
is
ex-military.
A
But
when
people
say
van
life,
they
don't
associate.
Oh
that's
the
thing
that
typically
military
people
they're
like
way
into
that
it's
for
everybody.
B
Let
me
make
a
note
before
I
forget.
A
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
viable
thing.
I
mean
it's
actually
interesting.
If
you
have
a
thing
that
you
put
on
a
frame,
then
my
immediate
thought
was
okay.
This
is
cubes
like
structural
frames,
lattice
frames,
so
you
can
actually
stack
them
like
shipping
containers.
So
if
you
think
about
making
a
settlement,
you
can
literally
say:
oh
well,
a
real
house.
A
big
house
is
actually
a
few
of
these
together.
A
So
try
to
get
the
cost
down,
so
you
can
actually
make
much
larger
space
but
design
it
in
the
same
way
that
we
do
do
which
is
designed
for
expandability.
So
if
you
want
to
make
this
into
a
core
of
your
permanent
house,
that's
a
possibility,
like
it'll,
be
like
the
kitchen,
the
core
utility
module
and
stuff
like
that.
So
so
there's
some
creativity
that
can
can
happen
there,
but
product
development.
I
mean
we
don't
have
that
product.
A
We
do
have
the
cd
cajon,
so
this
would
be
kind
of
a
a
diversion
now
diversion
in
terms
of
we
don't
have
that
product
here
now,
but
the
the
collaborative
potential
there
as
well.
If
you
could
find
some
collaborators
that
are
open
in
this
and
want
to
create
better,
bigger,
better,
faster,
stronger
with
open
source,
doing
this,
then
I'll
be
a
call
out
for
that
kind
of
collaboration,
because
I've
yet
to
find
the
first
ever
person
who
does
open
source
hardware,
enterprise.
B
Right,
I
I
did
want
to
bring
out
sort
of
you
we're
we're
talking
about
the
gap
between
the
four-year
model
that
you
want
to
implement
and
where
we
currently
are
and
accreditation
is
in
the
way
of
that
to
con.
You
know
convince
people
to
spend
25
000.
So
to
me,
the
path
to
accreditation
and
approval
or
recognition
credibility.
B
However,
you
want
to
frame
it
is,
is
two
things
one
is
the
proprietary
non-vocational
school
exemption,
which
we've
we
all
we
have
to
do
is
submit
the
curriculum
for
the
swarm,
build
and
file
for
exemption,
and
there's
no
time
constraint
on
that.
It's
it's,
however
long.
We
want
to
take
to
do
that.
B
A
Which
we
have
right,
you
know
believe
it
or
not
the
the
materials
that
we
have
right
now
like.
If
you
wanted
to
build
in
kansas
city,
it's
like.
We
already
have
a
half
a
house,
it's
all
the
framing
yeah
yeah,
that's
actually,
when
you
stop
back
and
think
about
it.
The
idea
of
recycling
the
materials
is
pretty
cool.
Yeah
you
have
to
if
it's
an
upfront
cost,
it's
a
large
cost,
but
it's
a
one-time
cost.
B
A
Sorry,
I'm
missing
the
question.
So
what's
the
question,
it's
like.
B
Well,
yeah,
what
I'm
saying
is,
let's
say,
let's
say:
kansas
city
has
a
what
they
called
condemned.
Housing
or
something
they've
got
a
block.
That's
abandoned!
It's
all
condemned
housing
osc
as
a
service
could
be
like
all
right.
We're
going
to
show
up
we're
going
to
disassemble
the
existing
structure,
we're
going
to
take
all
the
material
that
we
can
reuse
and
then
apply
it
to
our
cd,
go
home
model
and.
B
A
B
A
Yeah
no
there's
actually
the
quick
answer
to
that
is.
Is
the
super
size
shredder
you
shred
that
thing
and
turn
it
into
like
pellets
for
wood
heat.
You
can
turn
it
back
into
gravel,
like
with
a
massive
shredder,
we're
working
on
a
shredder
right
now
we're
we're
doing
one
right
now,
but
the
idea
there
is
now
you're
you're
munching
up
like
urbanite
or
concrete
you're
munching
up
wood,
for
example,
for
wood
mulch.
So
so
you
go
in
there
and
out
the
other
side.
A
A
A
B
To
come
home,
so
I
don't
know,
I
I
deviated
from
your
template
a
little
bit.
A
B
You
want
to
do
you
want
to
go
up
and
see
how
I
was
sort
of
envisioning
this
from
an
planning
standpoint,
yeah.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
know
that
these
are
the
final
categories
on
the
left-hand
side
from
top
to
bottom
planning
down
to
logistics.
But
when
I
was
looking
at
the
other
document,
this
seems
sort
of
like
the
framework.
I
would
use
initially-
and
I
sort
of
incorporated
this
with
this
training-
eight
step
training
model
from
the
army
to
come
up
with
a
what
I
thought
made
sense
for
a
sequence
and
then
I
just
applied
the
existing
timeline.
B
A
Are
you
talking
about
the
d-day
about
the
first
ongoing
event
in
this?
In
the
crash
course,
series
yeah
yeah.
A
B
I
mean,
in
terms
of
like
building
capacity,
I
think
identifying
the
instructor
instructors
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
toughest
parts
because
you're
you
need
special
people
to
fill
that
role,
and
we
have
to
figure
out.
What's
going
to
incentivize
the
right
kind
of
person
to
come
out,
how
do
we
reach
them
early
enough
to
get
them
on
board
to
commit?
B
One
idea
I
had
and
you'll
see
it
in
sort
of
like
that
middle
column
is
if
we
have
a
a
single
application
for
everybody
from
the
applicants.
Potentially,
you
could
identify
the
people
who
could
serve
as
instructors
based
on
our
backgrounds.
A
All
right,
how
do
we
do
that.
A
Okay,
because
wait,
let's
see,
share,
screen
screen
one
yeah
yeah
cause
now,
for
example,
can
you
see
like
the
stuff
here,
okay,
yeah
yeah,
by
the
way,
so
take
a
look
at
this
thing.
A
This
is
what
I'm
thinking
for
this
is
our
next
step
and
yes,
there's
intermediate
steps
but,
like
we
said
whatever
happens
with
anything
else,
this
is
going
forward
like
I'm
going
to
be
working
on
it.
Whenever
I
can
here's
the
length
to
that,
since
I
didn't
okay.
A
Instructors,
sorry
before
you
got
distracted
on
this
thing,
so
so
regarding,
what's
what's
the
can
you
repeat
the
last
thought.
A
B
B
A
Yeah,
but
you
got
that
you
got
it
for
november
december.
No,
you
got
that
for
january
instructor
applications,
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
all
kind
of
arbitrary.
I
was
just
thinking
in
terms
of
sequence.
We
might
want
to
iron
out
the
specifics
of
the
the
event.
So
what?
What
is
the
curriculum?
What's
the
scope
of
the
day-to-day
learning,
and
how
are
we
balancing
like
teaching
people
with
actually
putting
the
walls
up?
B
Because
when
we
do
the
full
announcement
media
blitz,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
we
want
to
paint
a
very
clear
picture
of
what
people
are
applying
to.
So
that's
the
only
reason
I
have
it.
Jan
feb,
within
a
with
a
teaser
early
on
to
get
it
on
people's
radar.
B
Full
announcement,
the
full
top
her
at
the
top
we're
next
to
plan.
A
A
Wiki
page,
so
that
means
we
go
to
here.
I
can
link
that
so
we'll
start
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
can
start
throwing
stuff
in
there.
So
I'll
link
that
into
the
dock
yeah.
That's
that's
a
big
one.
Yeah
I
mean
getting.
The
quality
of
this
depends
on
okay,
here's
being
the
efficiency
part
where
we've
got
everything
so
scripted,
so
tight
that
yeah,
you
better
believe
it
it's
worth
this
and
we'll
get
a
lot
of
turnout,
yeah
right.
A
That
goes
into
the
announcement
teaser
like
the
more
confident
we
are
in
that
the
better.
The
more
I
mean
we
do
have
advantages
we
do
have
is
we
do
have
a
lot
of
good
footage
yeah,
but
to
convert
it
from
where
we
are
right.
Now
to
a
d-day
april,
one
yeah,
just
a
lot
of
refinement,
just
a
lot
of
streamlining
and.
B
B
I
I
guess
you
know
everything
else
on
here.
This
is
a
living
document.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
comprehensive
enough,
but
I
think
given
what's
on
your
plate,
right,
like
your
day-to-day,
is
still
manual
labor
to
finish
the
existing
building
and
you're
refining
the
product
as
we
speak,
and
so
then,
like
to
the
next
question
I
would
have,
is
how
do
I
supplement
you
know
with
to
help
take
tasks
off
of
your
shoulder
or
other
people?
B
I
mean,
like
you
know,
who
who's
involved
here,
that
can
collaborate
with
us
and
and
how
do
we
assign
them
tasks
to
start
chipping
away
at
something
else.
B
I
mean
it's:
it's
fairly
flexible.
I've
got
some
family
stuff
in
november.
I
have
to
stick
around
for
around
thanksgiving
time.
B
A
Need
a
bundle
weekend
of
house
build,
that's
the
only
practical
thing,
the
other
stuff
we
can.
The
idea
was
to
meet
in
person.
The
rest
of
the
stuff
is
all
kind
of
stuff
you
can
do
remotely
and
the
biggest
thing
my
side
is
so
for
summer
x
to
end
because
we're
still,
we
still
got
the
program
and
we've
got
four
people
on
site
still,
so
we're
still
going
at
it
every
day
and
weekends
are
off.
A
So
in
the
meantime,
I'm
doing
spending.
Whatever
time
I
got
thinking
about
the
build
and
building
and
stuff
like
that.
As
far
as.
B
Well,
I
mean
I,
I
consider
this
one
of
two
permanent
projects,
I'm
working
on
for
now.
As
a
part
of
owls
incorporated-
and
I
structure
my
days-
nine
to
five-
I
eat
you
know
monday
through
friday.
Basically,
so
the
other
project
I
have
on
my
plate
is
something
called
the
ets
sponsorship
program,
but
they're
keeping
me
at
arm's
distance
for
now
and
I'm
only
participating
as
needed.
A
Where
do
you
see
this
going
in
terms
of
like?
What's
your
vision
for
collaboration
with
osc
like
how
do
you
see
this
in
terms
of
what
what
you
get
out
of
like
okay,
so
training
vets,
basically
re
having
people
rejoin
civilian
life
and
helping
that
transition
along
your
core
mission?
A
B
B
Unsustainable
expectations
of
you
know,
professional
family
balance
and
what
I
get
out
of
this
partnership
is
an
opportunity
to
transform
the
culture
around
people,
leaving
the
military
and
then
re-entering
society.
So
to
me,
this
is
about
empowering
and
it's
not
specific
to
veterans.
This
is
just
the
population,
I'm
starting
with
saying
like
look
when
you
leave
the
military
you're,
actually
not
constrained
by
the
existing
labor
force,
you
can
create
your
own
future.
B
B
That's
in
a
nutshell
how
I
sort
of
envision
the
work
I'm
doing
with
veterans
benefiting
from
a
collaboration
with
osc,
but
I
think
in
one
of
the
first
calls
that
we
had.
I
talked
about.
You
know
this.
This
idea
that
education
is
something
that's
done
to
you
and
like
throughout
the
pandemic.
There
was
all
this
controversy
over
the
school's,
not
doing
enough.
B
Kids,
kids
aren't
getting
enough
out
of
out
of
school
because
they're
virtual,
and
I
think
all
of
that
could
be
reframed.
As
you
know,
you
live
in
a
very
prosperous
nation
with
a
lot
of
opportunity
and
if
you
don't
look
at
schools,
that's
done
to
you,
but
as
an
opportunity
to
better
yourself.
We
have
all
those
tools
available
to
us.
It's
really
a
matter
of
mindset.
B
B
As
an
engineer
and
another
really
powerful
experience,
I
had
was
going
to
my
buddy's
ranch
in
south
dakota,
like
the
week
after
I
took
the
fee
after
I
graduated
and
thinking
that
was
hot
as
a
mechanical
engineer
and
then
seeing
how
his
grandfather
re-roofed
his
his
barn
using
horses
and
pulleys
and
ropes
and
just
understand
mechanical
advantage.
I
was
like,
oh
I
don't
know
you
know
I
can
fill
out.
I
can.
B
I
can
solve
the
thermodynamics
equation,
but
if
I
was
if
winter
was
coming
and
I
had
to
to
solve
this
problem
or
else
my
horses
were
going
to
die,
then
I
would,
I
didn't,
have
the
tools
to
do
that
and
so
like
to
me.
The
cool
thing
about
osc
is
like
stem
is
not
an
island
of
knowledge
that
is
locked
off
from
the
rest
of
society.
A
A
Any
any
thoughts
on
yeah
I
like
it,
it's
like
all
great
stuff
man.
B
B
Is
this
business
accomplishing
anything,
and
I
don't
know
with
my
medicine
or
these
meetings
that
I
have
to
do
where
we
get
to
talk
about
big
ideas
and
you
know
ways
ways
to
progressively
you
know,
chip
away
at
it.
A
B
Three
percent
use
it
for
employment,
which
is
to
say
the
vast
majority
of
people
who
end
up
opting
in
to
use
their
gi
bill,
use
it
for
education
and
to
me,
that's
a
missed
opportunity
for
a
couple
reasons:
one
because
it's
like
a
huge
economic
surplus
that
we
could
essentially
hand
over
to
veterans
to
restart
their
civilian
careers
and
a
lot
of
the
barriers
to
entry
for
that
are
tied
to
the
way
you
know
the
culture
around.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
the
numbers
like
for
me,
then
the
numbers
there
like,
if
we
tap
a
population
of
that
as
a
formidable
institution.
It's
like
oh
man.
This
is
an
opportunity
and
imagine
we
we
could.
We
could
get
75
000
people.
Well,
maybe
not
that
many,
but
all
that
talent
you're,
seeing
that
the
waste
you're
seeing
is
that
well,
why
is
that
only
50,
because,
but
it's
a
lot
of
that
is
because
of
the
misalignment
like
a
lot
of
people
might
be
like.
Well,
I
don't
want
to
work
in
corporate
america.
B
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
layers
to
this,
so
so,
if
you,
if
the
question
is,
why
don't
more
veterans
use
their
gi
bill?
Why
isn't
the
utilization
rate
higher
a
part
of
that
could
be
because
they
get
jobs
that
they,
some
of
them,
get
jobs
and
they
don't
need
the
gi
bill
to
make
ends
meet
when
they
graduate.
So
that's
some
portion,
and
we
don't
really
have
good
data
on
this.
B
Another
reason
could
potentially
be
the
number
one
challenge
reported
by
veterans
when
they
separate
is
navigating
their
benefits,
so
bureaucracy,
red
tape.
It
takes
effort
to
unlock
this.
You
know
taxpayer-funded
benefit
and
there's
like
even
more.
We
keep
going
down
this
road.
I
mean
another
reason:
they
don't
utilize.
It
is
because
there's
a
culture
in
the
military
right
now
that
a
lot
of
people
are
sort
of
bringing
to
light
related
to
this
dependency
and
the
the
the
like
disabled,
vet
and
sense
of
entitlement
basically,
and
without
getting
too
much
detail.
B
There's
this
new
book
out
by
this
guy
named
daniel
gate,
who's,
a
wounded,
combat
wounded
guy
from
iraq
and
afghanistan,
who
he
chronicles
the
medical
retirement
process
and
sort
of
illustrates
how
the
all
of
the
incentives.
B
Drive
otherwise
capable
people
into
thinking
feeling
entitled
to
to
money
and
essentially
lying
on
their
disability
exams
to
get
as
much
compensation
as
possible,
and
so
we
haven't,
as
a
like
a
military
or,
as
a
nation,
figured
out
the
way
to
fairly
compensate
veterans
for
their
service,
and
you
know
the
cost
of
service
to
them
physically
and
mentally,
and
empowering
them
to
you
know,
move
forward
with
their
lives
without
you
know,
feeling
entitled
to
you
know
permanent
retirement
disability
so.
B
There's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
the
rate
utilization
rate
could
be
low.
We
may
only
be
able
to
address
some
portion
of
that
problem,
but
my
whole
thing
is
we're
playing
in
we're
playing
in
an
area
that
hasn't
really
successfully
been
navigated
before
which
is
unconventional
education,
unconventional
routes
to
successful
employment,
culture
change
you
know
simultaneously
collaborating
within
the
system.
So,
like
we,
you
know
through
our
collaboration.
We
recognize
the
need
to
actually
work
with
these
institutions,
as
opposed
to
just
saying
it
we're
doing
this
on
our
own.
B
A
B
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
common
threads
and
I
don't
know
man
did
this.
This,
like
this
idea
of.
B
A
B
You
know
he's
in
a
much
better
place
financially
and
as
a
person
now
than
he
was
when
we
first
met,
and
all
that
was
was
establishing
a
human
connection
with
him,
and
you
know
a
human
connection
between
him
and
his
employer
and
sort
of
rethinking
the
job
search
and
hiring
process,
and
I
don't
see
a
reason
why
that
can't
be
scaled
over
the
long
term.
I
just
don't
want
to
take
any
shortcuts
to
get
there
and
you're
the
only
organization.
I've
found
that
really
understands
that.
B
A
No,
no,
of
course,
of
course,
I
think
I'm
thinking
like
you
need
to
come
here
for
a
weekend
and
we
just
talk
about.
A
Explore
these
issues
in
more
depth,
like
I
think
thing
thing
for
me,
is
like
I
want
to
like
for
me,
I'm
in
it
for
life,
like,
I
think,
about
system
transformation.
A
That's
what
I
do
for
a
living
and
trying
to
eke
my
way
out
into
doing
that
and
try
to
do
it
more
ambitiously.
Every
year.
A
For
me,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
long-term
thing
and
I
want
to
ask
you
what's
so
right
now,
so
your
wife
works
and
you're
able
to
do
this,
but
it's
like.
Do
you
see
any
risk
for
you
to
to
be
able
to
continue
doing
this.
B
Not
unless
she
develops
a
taste
for
expensive
handbags
and
fancy
cars,
I
mean
we
we
live
within
our
means.
I
I'm
able
to
save
to
meet
all
my
financial
needs
right
now
and
to
me
the
risk,
the
the
bigger
risk
is
taking
a
job.
I
hate
just
to
satisfy
some
like
external
validation,
or
you
know,
climb
some
achievement
ladder.
B
B
I
graduated
in
may,
and
I
decided
a
year
and
a
half
before
that
my
first
semester
of
business
school,
that
this
is
what
I
wanted
to
do
and
I
had
opportunities
to
apply
for
internships
and
get
a
full-time
job
and
do
this
part-time.
But
you
know
another
thing
you
probably
don't
know
is
I
had
a
pretty
serious
injury
when
I
left
the
military
and
that
whole
experience
was
very
effective
at
aligning
my
priorities
effectively.
B
So
this
work
allows
me
to
deal
with
my
family
every
night,
be
with
my
daughter,
and
you
know,
through
the
power
of
zoom
and
google
drive,
I'm
able
to
still
contribute
to
work.
I
think,
is
meaningful.
B
A
Tell
me
more
about
like
what
would
be
the
ideal
solution
like
ideal
state
like
rebuild
the
american
dream,
man,
that's
a
big,
that's
a
big
statement
right
so
what's
what's
it
mean
for
you
like
like
say
you
look
back
on
your
life?
What
would
you
say
that
would
be
what
would
be
success
for
you
on
that.
B
B
I
think
that
the
constitution
of
declaration
of
independence
are
miracles,
and
I
don't
I
recognize
that
it's
kind
of
cheesy,
but
that's
where
I
plant
my
flag,
philosophically
and
like
I
would
like
to
see
that
sense
of
solidarity
and
quality
as
americans
play
out
in
daily
life,
so
that
your
zip
code
doesn't
determine
how
successful
you
are
or
what
kind
of
opportunities
you
have,
and
I
think
right
now,
that's
kind
of
why
in
previous
podcasts
I'd
always
say.
Oh
it
comes
to
me.
It
comes
back
to
inequality.
B
B
Solve
the
problems
that
they
care
about
and
build
a
life
for
themselves,
that's
productive!
We
have
our
next
meeting
starts
in
two
minutes
and
it's
on
a
separate
link.
So
I
think
this
is
a
bigger
conversation
that
I
I
would
love
to
continue.
I
just
want
to
flag
that.
A
Yeah,
I'm
thinking
like
you
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
the
bigger
conversation
when
you
come
here.
Like
maybe
plan
on
coming
for
a
weekend
like
saturday
sunday.
B
A
B
I
can
definitely
look
at
that
to
me
the
biggest
limitation
to
scheduling
is
child
care,
so
I
just
need
enough
time
to
make
sure
that
my
mother-in-law
can
come
up
and
help
out
my
wife,
one
gun.
A
B
Yeah
I'll
just
have
to
I'll
just
have
to
look
at
the
look
at
the
counter
and
get
back
to
you
now
now
that
we
were
sort
of
ironing
this
out,
I
was
like
yes,
you
want
me
to
come.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
with
a
department
of
labor
visits.
You
just
want
to
have
a
sit
down
face
to
face
with
me.
A
A
As
far
as
yeah,
so
so
do
get
back
to
me
as
far
as
like,
okay,
the
gantt
chart,
and
what
to
do,
we
made
no
progress
on
that,
but
maybe
think
about
it,
and
I
mean:
are
you
saying
that,
in
terms
of
your
time
I
mean
in
term
what
I
mean
to
clarify
the
time
budget
thing
I
mean:
are
you
able
to?
A
Are
you
saying,
like
half
your
time
you
can
commit
to
to
working
on
osc
related
stuff,
or
is
that
I'm
just
saying
that
you
said
you've
got
two
major
projects?
I
mean
what
what
other
commitments
do
you
have,
because
I
mean
that
that
would
totally
depend
determine
like
what
we
can
or
we
can
talk
about
in
terms
of
okay.
A
What
what
are
we
going
to
accomplish
together
towards
the
replicable
builder
crash
course,
and
what
other
things
are
in
the
way
of
that,
because
there's
probably
some
other
things
that
will
come
up
like
say,
I
don't
know,
say
the
dol
stuff
or
anything
else
related
to
education
opportunities.
A
B
I
mean
every
week
is
variable
just
because
it's
that's
sort
of
at
people's
demands
like
hey.
I
need
you
to
take
a
look
at
this
presentation.
Speaking
of
the
other
projects,
I'm
working
on
and
so
like
all
things
are
possible
with
enough
advance
notice,
but
I
mean
practically
speaking.
20
hours
a
week
seems
realistic.
A
That's
some
serious
time
so
I
mean,
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
have
to
really
think
about
that
and
my
mind
is
kind
of
an
emotion,
a
sense
that,
as
we
wrap
up
the
summer
acts
here,
it's
like
this
somewhat
of
a
conflict
of
interest
in
in
terms
of
having
too
many
things
on
my
plate.
There's
that
there's
the
house,
so
I
lately
I
just
haven't
jeff
left,
and
so
I
had
to
clean
up
the
stuff
for
winter
and
we
still
got
to
do
a
couple
of
things
on
that.