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From YouTube: Development Team Meeting - May 8, 2018
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1. Immersion Training
2. Critical path 2018
3. Power Cube. Also need for Photogrammetry.
4. Piping workbench
5. Inventory automation - initial consideration for the Open Source Microfactory
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A
A
A
Ruslan
has
five
minutes
that
might
be
old.
Okay,
progress
reports,
how's
everything
doing
so
I
am
almost
up
at
releasing
the
OS
the
immersion
announcement.
So
if
you
click
on
that
on
the
first
page,
not
sure
if
you
can
see
the
video
that
video
is
not
public
yet,
but
it's
pretty
decent,
it's
four
minutes
really
trying
to
lay
out
the
summary,
but
we've
done,
and
you
can
read
about
the
the
summary
of
the
OSC
fellows
training
and
OSC
boot
camp.
A
So
the
immersion
is
going
to
be
for
five
weeks
total,
but
why
not
make
the
first
week
itself
a
more
general
one
and
called
the
OSC
boot
camp?
So
that's
basically
an
introduction
to
all
that
we
do
the
rapid
prototyping
and
focusing
on
them
on
the
micro
factory,
also
combined
with
a
build
of
a
3d
printer.
A
We
show
some
of
the
milestones
on
revenue
generation,
so
obviously
there's
actually
a
separate
page
lawlessly
bootstrap
funding
milestones,
but
we've
been
running
workshops
for
years
since
about
2012
and
they
work
in
terms
of
getting
an
attractive
audience
to
come.
Come
to
the
to
the
workshop,
where
we
combine
education
and
training
and
those
are
huge,
huge
markets
right.
So
education
is
a
four
trillion
dollar
market
and
production
is
I.
Looked
at
the
numbers,
it's
an
eleven
trillion
dollar
market
worldwide
and
we're
actually
trying
to
take
it.
Make
a
dent
in
that.
A
A
Integrating
with
with
that
with
incentive
design
challenges
like
the
the
hero,
X
and
so
yeah
design,
Sprint's
and
the
the
design
jams
integrating
all
the
techniques
that
we
have
developed,
relying
on
the
crowd,
crowd
process
and
a
collaboration
architecture
where
you
architect,
you
break
down
the
project
into
many
many
parts
and
you
assign
roles
to
each.
But,
of
course,
the
block.
There
is
open
source
tools
which
are
coming
in
open.
Source
tools
are
not
bad,
especially.
A
You
know
that
requires
a
lot
of
organizations.
So,
of
course,
there's
gonna
be
a
program.
Manager
has
to
be
in
place
to
assure
the
logistics
and
marketing
and
so
forth
the
basic
organization.
But
the
deal
is
fellows,
so
we're
calling
this
a
fellowship
actually
frame
it
in
the
word
of
a
fellowship,
an
opportunity
to
do
something.
A
Excellent,
you
get
paid
the
program
costs,
but
the
result
is
that
you're
working
and
getting
paid
for
doing
that
work
and
what
else
25
percent
of
the
time
you
spend
running
workshops,
and
then
we
can
liberate
75
percent
to
further
research
and
development,
and
the
main
road
map
would
be
so
right
now
that
it's
the
OSD
microfactory
level,
one
September
2018,
but
I'm
planning
on.
Let's
just
continue
the
immersion
training,
May
20
19,
full
microfactory.
So
as
soon
as
we
get
the
people
after
September,
we
work
make
sure
the
CNC
torch
table
comes
in
online.
A
So
we
can
teach
about
that
and
teach
about
how
we
build
a
heavy
duty
scene,
heavy
duty
machines
with
the
CNC
torch
tables.
So
that's
definitely
we're
far
on
that
and
then
for
September
2019
get
into
the
much
largest
of
the
open
source,
construction,
CB,
press
building,
aquaponic
greenhouses
or
small
seed
eco
homes,
as
we
leverage
the
work
that
we've
already
done
with
open
building,
Institute
and
katarina
doing
the
immersion
training
on
that.
So
we're
so
probably
in
2019
Katerina.
She
doesn't
know
how
well-prepared
she
will
be,
but
at
least
for
OSC
side.
I.
A
Definitely
want
to
teach
above
the
brick
press
and
and
open-source
construction
as
well
as,
of
course,
the
modular
build
techniques
from
open
building
institute
and
so
we're
kind
of
that's.
You
know
that's
early
to
talk
about
that,
but
we
definitely
want
to
get
that
program
up
online
in
September
of
next
year,
not
this
year
but
next
year
and
then
in
2020
move
on
to
the
open-source
agroecology.
So
what
does
that
mean?
A
Open-Source
perennial
polyculture
plant
breeding
aquaponics
for
regenerative
agriculture
and
food
security?
So
we're
talking
about
terraforming,
regenerating
the
land
keyline
ploughing
plant
breeding
like
the
the
debris,
the
actual
the
nuts
that
have
growing
here?
Ten
acres
of
them
there's
not
not
actually
not
many
survivors,
but
plant
breeding
for
perennial
polyculture.
In
other
words,
we
have
two
choices.
We
have
GM
nanotechnology,
genetics
frankenfoods
as
a
choice
or
integrated
agro
ecology,
as
the
alternate
to
that.
A
If
you
come
from
an
integrated
perspective,
as
opposed
to
the
the
siloed
perspective,
or,
let's
say
the
reductionist
perspective
of
say,
genetic
engineering
towards
agriculture
because
there's
different
ways
we
can
do
it
either
could
work
and
each
one
will
have
its
associated
properties.
We
favor,
of
course,
the
integrated
route
of
open-source
agro
ecology,
which
once
again
as
a
distributive
method,
as
opposed
to
more
concentrated,
like
like
say,
genetic
engineering.
In
other
words,
we
got
a
use
technology
wisely,
that's
always
the
common
theme
and
okay
and
then
so
that's
may
20
2014
september
2020.
A
So
this
is
kind
of
like
the
three
year
roadmap
for
immersion
trainings.
Then
we
get
into
integrated
humans,
shifting
gears
from
open
source,
appropriate
technology
to
opening
up
the
human
dimension.
How
do
you
like
that?
So
you
can
read
it
more
about
integrated
humans,
what
that
means
on
a
wiki.
So
so
you
can
read
through
that
and
that's
that's.
We've
got
so
far,
but
I'm
working
on
really
doing
the
financial
model,
as
well
as
the
detailed
program.
A
The
relatively
detailed
program
for
the
bootcamp
is
already
up
up
there
and
I'm
gonna
detail
out
the
full
OSC
immersion
training
so
definitely
mean
this
is
taking
longer
than
I
would
like,
of
course,
but
we
got
to
do
this
that
got
to
put
the
time
into
defining
this
and,
and
that
means
for
the.
So,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
critical
path
for
them:
the
immersion
program
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff.
We
have
to
do
on
a
3d
printers,
the
filament
maker,
CNC
circuit
mill.
A
So
right
now,
early
July,
July
6
through
the
eighth
we're
planning
the
I
talked
to
Shane.
We're
confirming
that
as
the
CNC
circuit
mill
workshop,
where
we've
got
good
results
on
that
and
we
may
make
that
either
like
where
we
build
a
bunch
of
them
or
build
less
of
them
and
focus
on
actually
how
you
use
use
the
circuit
mill.
And
how
do
you
do
circuit
design
using
kicad
and
everything
the
full
tool
chain
there
and
copper
car,
which
is
Shane's
open
source
software
for
we're
doing
the
circuit
milling?
A
So
that's
definitely
coming
up
there
and
we
talked
briefly
about.
Let's
do
get
together
at
factory
farm
here
where
we
focus
on
the
filament
maker.
So
we
can
show
the
full
tool
chain
of
how
we
go
from
scrap
to
back,
to
printable
printable
objects
using
filament,
and
for
that
we'd
want
to
get
the
filament
width
sensor
added
to
the
3d
printer,
meaning
that
if
we
have
crappy
filament,
that's
not
holding
Tolerance,
it's
still
quite
useable
because
there's
a
correction
within
Marlin
for
filament
that
varies
and
width
over
the
over
the
spool.
A
So
that's
that,
as
far
as
the
D
3d
laser
workshop
here,
that's
I've
talked
to
Jeff
Moll
from
Lowe's,
but
he's
also
putting
out
a
laser
head
addition
for
lulzbot,
so
there's
common
ground
there
that
we
can
collaborate
and
one
other
big
missing,
link
for
the
open
source
micro
factory
level.
One
is
the
online
3d
printing
like
like
actually
getting
on-demand
printing
service.
A
I
want
to
teach
about
that
during
the
immersion
program,
so
I'd
like
to
reach
out
to
Jeana
who's
the
lead
octo
print
developer
from
Germany
I'd
like
to
have
her
teach
on
that
and
before
that
possibly
finish
getting
up
our
cluster
here.
So
we
can
do
a
basically
a
web
web
interface
where
you
can
print
on
demand
which
would
be
relevant
for
for
doing
kits.
Like
say
we
do
the
workshops.
A
We
can
go
right
on
our
online
interface,
so
make
that
a
public
interface
such
that
people
can
order
parts
from
us
through
the
online
interface,
and
that
would
be
great
and
and
that's
that's
basically
leading
to
the
home
scale,
microfactory
the
concept
of
the
open-source
everything
store
but
I
think
there's
I
mean
there's
there's
a
big
message.
There,
though
so
far,
3d
printing
has
not
realized
any
of
this
potential
of
distributed
manufacturing
and
any
significant
way.
A
A
If
we
have
a
number
of
us
working
on
this,
then
we
can
do
these
collaborative
incentive
competitions
with
hero,
X
or
other
incentive
design
platforms.
Where,
like
say
on
a
weekend,
we
do
a
competition.
Okay,
let's
build
an
additional
tool
head
for
the
open
source,
3d
printed,
cordless
drill
or
whatever
product.
It
is
a
digital
camera
based
on
a
Raspberry,
Pi
and
3d
printed
parts.
All
of
that
micro
drones
I
mean
all
these
kinds
of
products.
A
It's
my
opinion
that
80%
of
the
consumer
household
goods
can
probably
be
produced
by
individuals
running
small
businesses
all
over
the
world,
as
opposed
to
Amazon
and
Walmart
I.
Think
we
can
well
I
personally
I
think
it's
inevitable
that
that
Walmart
and
Amazon
will
be
dented
by
open
source
distributed
production.
Now,
how
quick
does
that
happen?
A
A
Centralized
operations
have
their
weaknesses
distributed.
Information
flows
according
to
information
theory
are,
are
the
preferred
way,
and
only
if
the
open
hardware
revolution
comes
into
play,
I've
heard.
Actually
you
know
Bunny
Huang
he's
one
of
the
lead
open-source
hackers
out
there
he's
mentioned
that
I
was
talking
to
Catrin
about
this.
That
open
source
hardware
may
take
off
really
once
Moore's
law
for
our
computing
power
kind
of
plays
out.
A
I
mean
we'll
never
play
out,
but
we
think
in
probably
ten
years,
silicon
Moore's
law
will
reach
its
peak,
but
one
claim
is
for
when
the
open
source
hardware
economy's
gonna
really
take
place
is
when
open
source
or
hardware
in
general
becomes
really
really
advanced,
which
is
signified
by
reaching
Moore's
law
in
about
ten
years
with
computing
power.
So
that
means
like
full
digital
fabrication.
Capacity
is
on
anyone's
desktop,
probably
3d
metal
printing
is
then
everyone's
desktop
and
so
forth,
but
anyway
that's
just
some
thoughts
there.
So
that's
that's
where
I
am
here.
A
One
also
very
interesting
thing
on
a
CB
press:
just
to
wrap
up
I
had
a
conversation
with
some
people
who
are
doing
some
big
projects
in
Africa,
and
they
were
actually
asking
me:
ok,
put
together
a
program
for
how
you
can
go
to
Africa
and
the
Train,
like
a
hundred
of
there,
people
to
do
like
a
massive
build-out
like
we're
talking
about
like
a
Holden's
subdivision
of
CB.
There's
this
CB
builder
and
a
thunder.
A
An
investor
guy
I
talked
to
a
builder
who's,
an
architect
who
likes
Seabees
and
he's
got
he's
drawn
up
plans
for
a
whole
settlements.
Ie
your
subdivisions
that
are
made
from
CB.
So
they
want
to
have
a
big
labor.
Is
there
like
an
African
Africa
labor?
Is
there?
They
don't
have
the
machines,
they
don't
have
the
skills
to
do
it
and
they
were
implying
that
they
cannot
go
with
a
regular
CB
machine
and
off-the-shelf
one,
because
the
common
story
in
Africa
is
that
when
it
breaks
you're
kind
of
done
for
because
you
cannot
get
parts.
A
So
that's
where
oh
I
see
version
with
common
off-the-shelf
parts,
replace
ability
would
be
actually
a
viable
model.
So
so
I'm
gonna
put
together
a
little
plan
for
how
that
would
look
like
what
what
it
would
take
to
train
like,
say,
a
dozen
to
a
hundred
people
to
operate
and
run
the
machines
and
be
able
to
fix
them
and,
of
course,
build
them,
because
that
I
mean
that's
what
it
would
take.
But
I
like
I,
like
the
discussion,
that's
the
first
discussion
ever
I
had
at
that
level
where
people
are
actually
saying.
A
Yes,
we
actually
need
to
train
people
to
be
fully
resilient
in
that
technology,
because
my
statement
about
Africa
from
a
long
time
has
been
unless
this
material
supply
chains
are
there
or
we
bring
them
in
the
open
source
micro
factory.
Then
any
technological
project
in
Africa
is
pretty
much
doomed,
just
as
as
has
been
experienced
throughout
history,
where
all
kinds
of
machines
are
scattered
throughout
Africa,
because
once
they
break,
you
cannot
fix
them
or
people
scrap
them
for
parts
or
whatever.
A
So
just
a
heads
up
that
was
an
interesting
discussion
and
it's
a
question
of
like
one.
That's
gonna
happen,
but
the
interesting
part
was.
These
people
were
like.
Okay.
Show
me
data
that
your
machine
can
produce
a
million
bricks.
Well,
we
don't
have
that
the
most
we
pressed
with
a
single
machine
was
about
50,000
bricks,
so
part
of
the
project,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
roadmap
for
the
immersion
training
I
believe
in
September,
not
this
year,
but
next
year.
A
B
C
A
B
B
That
way
the
engine
is
easier
to
get
it
out,
because,
obviously,
that's
the
only
way
it's
gonna
come
in
and
out.
You
can't
get
it
to
the
top
or
the
bottom,
and
obviously
we
want
to
be
a
little
well.
The
farm
together
can
then
put
the
engine
in
and
out
so
that
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
potential
issue.
B
B
B
D
B
A
Yeah,
okay,
one
thing:
I
gotta
tell
you:
we
need
a
hole
for
where
the
rubber
mounts.
You
know
like
how
the
do
you
know
how
the
the
cooler
is
attached.
It's
got
a
dis
rubber
piece
that
goes
through
the
side
side
tubes,
a
rubber
piece
that
gets
flattened
out
and
gets
put
put
one
of
those
two
square
holes
like.
A
B
A
If
you
look
at
my
screen,
see
the
see
the
mounting
wall
see
the
side
tubes
of
a
cooler,
so
there's
a
rubber
block
that
that
fits
right
in
this
square
hole
like
one
either
this
or
the
other
square
hole
and
when
you
put
a
bolt
through
it,
it
flattens
out
and
pushes
against
the
tubes
without
damaging
them.
So
we
need
a
hole
for
that.
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
Oh
man,
photogrammetry
okay,
so
what
I'm
gonna
do
okay
check
this
out?
Let's
do
this.
I
was
thinking
about
that
and
I
think
it
occurred
to
me
how
just
how
important
that
is,
because
if
we
just
go
by
the
the
drawings
from
the
or
like
the
specs
from
the
from
the
manufacturer,
its
it
could
be
right,
but
we
don't
even
know
so.
The
most
accurate
thing
is
photogrammetry,
so
I
could
easily
so
here's
what
I
want
to
do.
I
know
that
shiny
objects
are
not
good
for
photogrammetry.
A
We
can
collaborate
on
that
if
you
can
do
it
or
if
someone
else
can
do
it,
I
should
try
that
I
mean
I.
I
do
well.
I
will
try
that,
because
it's
something
we
really
want
to
master
and
it's
one
of
the
the
steps
we
can
do
like
say
we're
at
a
design
jam
in
a
physical
location.
One
of
us
could
bring
apart,
and
we
can
actually
do
this
scanning
there
and
make
like
say
3d
printed
models
and
stuff
like
that.
A
So
we
can
do,
for
example,
a
full
3d
printed
model
of
the
actual
thing
based
on
the
scans,
and
that
way
we
can
figure
out
prior
to
building
whether
everything
is
going
to
fit
and
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
if
we
could
master
that
kind
of
process
where
all
of
us
are
working
together
as
a
group
of
many
people
to
make
sure
that
everything
fits
I.
Think
that
will
be
very
valuable,
so
I
will
work
that
in
the
next.
You
know
next
coming
weeks
here
definitely
yeah.
A
We
got
we
got
because
I
was
I
was
concerned
that
yeah
once
we
have
that
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
a
couple
of
things
are
good.
Like
say
we
got
a,
you
know
the
things
that
fell
are
like
the
engine,
maybe,
and
the
pomp
or
whatever
okay,
so
we
gotta
definitely
allow
for
the
pump
and
engine
to
be
basically
snapped
in
and
out
one
of
these
power
cubes
the
engine
is
only
300
bucks
for
1800
or,
like
16
horsepower.
So
for
longevity
purposes.
A
We
have
to
have
that
or
like
field
to
repair
purposes.
We
want
to
set
it
up,
so
that
say
the
engine
breaks
or
something
or
needing
something
fails.
We
can
snap
it
out
in
in
the
middle
of
a
job
like
real
fast,
like
five
or
10
minutes,
so
I
want
to
see
if
we
can
design
for
that
because,
for
example,
for
say,
we're
doing
a
a
rapid,
build.
It's
a
good
idea,
of
course,
to
have
parts,
but
if,
if
say
an
engine
fails,
you
know,
that's
of
course
not
good.
A
B
D
A
D
A
B
D
A
If
that's
the
case,
then
then
it's
nice
not
to
have
loops,
because
you
can
get
an
airlock
in
the
loop.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
just
put
an
elbow
there
straight
to
that
Inlet.
Maybe
maybe
move
this
one
out
further
and
put
an
elbow,
yeah
I
would
suggest
ennoble
cuz
I
mean
here,
yeah
I'm,
seeing
this
and
the
loops
are
just
problematic.
B
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
A
D
A
D
F
D
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
A
F
F
D
F
F
A
F
E
A
I
would
just
go
the
main.
The
way
I
would
do
it
that
makes
sense
to
me
is
to
go
through
the
main.
It
fits
a
t
called
the
one.
That's
that's
on
the
side,
the
secondary
one,
the
main
one
is
the
flow-through,
so
say
the
left
and
right.
The
vertical
should
be
like
the
third
third
name,
third
piece
in
the
name:
that's
what
I
would
do
yeah
now
the
the
kind
of
fitting
that
you're
talking
about
I've
never
used
one,
but
that's
interesting.
A
If
we
have
3d
printing,
we
can
print
them
out,
so
we
can
start
using
them,
but
I
can
just
tell
you
in
practice.
I
have
not
ever
seen
a
tea.
That's
got
different
left
and
right,
I've
seen
different
vertical
than
the
left
and
right,
but
I've
never
seen
left
and
right.
They
are
different
from
each
other
they're,
not
a
standard
thing.
You
get
at
the
store,
but
it's
good
for
3d
printing,
because
we
can
start,
they
are
very
useful.
I
would
say,
but
not
common.
F
A
F
A
Yeah
no
I
can't
help
so
much
on
those,
because
I
haven't
really
used
those
crazy
ones
that
you're
designing.
So
no
I
haven't
really
gotten
that
far
now
there
are
documents
that
from
a
SME
and
sis
ystem
like
all
these
ones,
but
problem
is
a
lot
of
them.
You
have
to
buy
them
online.
They
don't
can't
a
lot
of
times.
You
can't
just
download
it
like
I
know
the
standards.
What
you
can
go
to
is
I
mean
there's
ISO
di
n,
a
SME
NFPA
like
just
Google.
A
Pipe
fitting
standards
and
just
see
if
you
can
locate
one
I
haven't
I,
haven't
worked
a
lot
with
those
because
I
just
use
the
stuff
we
use,
typically
and
also
for
the
purpose
of
general
replicability.
We
just
don't
use
a
lot
of
the
the
crazy
ones,
but
they
will
be
useful
at
some
point.
They're,
just
not
gonna,
be
that
common
right.
A
A
A
So
so
the
thing
that
you
can
do
is
yeah
I
mean
this
is
beyond
my
paygrade
here
and
I
haven't
looked
at
those
the
details
of
the
standards
but
but
for
any,
but
what
you
can
do
is
select
one
of
the
standards
and
say:
okay,
this
is
how
they
define
it.
Then
you
have
to
see
if
the
standards
are
uniform
with
other
standards
like
do
they
also
label
things
a
certain
way.
I
just
don't
know
that
so
I
don't
have
enough
experience
with
that
ya.
A
F
G
G
A
Excellent
yeah
I
typed
it
into
the
chat
box
there
rousillon,
so
maybe
you
can
tell
tell
Jen
a
little
more,
but
the
idea
is
pretty
simple:
look
up
the
standard,
four
four
pipe
fittings
and
see
how
they
label
it.
You
know
like,
but
maybe
ruslan
since
you
you're
well-versed
at
this,
maybe
give
Jen
more
specific
directions
on
which
standard
sheets
you
want
to
look
up
or
like
which
specific
questions
you
have
cuz
I
mean:
do
you
want
it
for
everything
or
just
the
t's.
A
F
B
Okay,
I
wasn't
sure,
but
you
were
still
updating
the
workbench
I'm.
A
teacher
had
the
latest
version
and
stuff,
but
it
update
that
because
it
seems
to
me
that
that
it
is
hopefully
the
underlying
code.
Is
this
flexible
enough?
It
sounds
like
so
when
I
looked
at
before
I
looked
at
the
files
there
leave
again
I,
don't
know
I
guess
I
need
to.
Let
me
leave
it
get
better,
but
it
looks
to
me
like
as
long
as
you
have
the
same
number
of
dimensions,
you
can
draw
those.
B
F
B
F
B
B
F
B
That
level
of
accuracy
is
probably
only
important
if
you're,
making
pipe
what
I'm
doing
is
usually
displaying
the
friends
and
so
on
a
cat,
and
it's
usually
only
important
if
you're,
trying
to
actually
know
make
parts
that
you
could
metal
which
we're
not
currently
doing.
But
the
representation
I
figured
sometimes
in
the
cat
to
have
some
detail,
might
make
it
easier
in
the
future
so
that
there
could
be
more
auto
assembly,
and
so
that
there's
probably
ways
you
can
do
more
advanced
features
and
the
parts
are
shaped
to
fit
together.
B
B
B
Take
more
the
shape
so
actually
tapered
and
that
kind
of
thing
would
or
might
the
conical.
You
know
that,
so
if
there's
different
types
of
plumbing
parts
in
in
a
CAD
plumbing
system,
the
software
might
be
able
to
figure
out
that
certain
sizes
and
shapes
of
plumbing
parts
go
together
may
be
more
more
obvious
that
way
they
so
you
can,
you
know,
use
the
software
to
differentiate
between
the
different
types
of
plumbing
based
on
their
size
or
shape.
F
F
F
B
So
yeah
I
can
see
from
look
at
that.
These
it
looks
like
there's
quite
a
bit
of
depth,
ability,
I
guess.
The
main
thing
is
that
the
underlying
code
is
probably
pretty
good,
detecting
the
names
I
guess
from
the
cat,
and
just
adapting
that
I
read
I
was
wondering
if
it
would
be
easy
to
do
MPT,
which
is
shaped
a
little
bit
more
like
the
one
on
the
left.
A
We
could
eventually
use
probably
Ruslan
some
documentation
on
how
people
can
take
this
and
do
what
you
do
with
this
I.
Don't
know
if
you
can
never
do
that
in
the
future,
but
know
what
you
did
here.
It's
pretty
good
like
we
can
do
our
custom
custom
fittings
to
transfer
that
to
some
other
people
on
a
team
as
well.
F
A
E
D
F
D
B
A
B
E
E
F
A
You
know
what
like
I
mean.
The
other
question
would
be
Rousillon.
Are
you
still
planning
on
working
on?
No,
it's
see
you
got
other
things
to
do
man,
you
got
you
gotta.
Do
the
the
construction
set
construction
set
workbench
right,
yeah
yeah,
so
we
don't
want
you
to
be
doing
too
much
more
that,
but
but
I
think
we
want
to
pass
it
on
to
others,
because
I
know
that
for
hydraulics
fittings,
hydraulics
fittings
are
a
little
different.
Some
of
them
have
all
rings
and
they're
pretty
much
different
design.
A
F
F
A
F
D
A
A
F
A
Yes,
it
was
well
worth
it.
What
we
have
there
is
state
of
art
state
of
art.
Where
else
are
you
gonna
get
a
whole
array
of
open
source
pipe
fittings,
but
ruse
lens
workbench?
Okay,
so
anyone
else
have
anything
I,
don't
think
we
have
I
think
we
lost
everybody
else.
While
we
were
talking
so
and
so
that's
pretty
good.
No
anyone
else
I've
got
any
other
reports
or
anything
any
questions
because
we
can
I
can
start
wrapping
up.
Then.
G
G
A
D
F
A
F
A
F
A
Right
use,
the
warehouse
in
our
case
looks
a
little
different
than
that,
it's
more
than
micro
factory,
where
we
don't
stock
stuff.
Everything
is
as
much
on-demand
production
as
as
possible,
but
of
course,
you're
gonna
need
some
feedstocks
to
store
some
feedstocks
to
do
that,
and,
ideally
that
is
most
localized,
that
you
can
get
a
lot
of
the
feedstocks
locally.
The
model
of
the
OSE
campus.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
demonstrate
that
a
parcel
of
land
can
provide
just
about
anything
right.
A
So
you
can
get
your
turn
your
cell,
you
lows
into
bio
plastics
and
you
can
make
aluminum
from
clay.
You
can
make
hydrogen
from
water.
You
can
make
bricks
from
clay,
etc
and,
as
far
as
the
steel
take,
some
scrap
steel
melt
it
down
and
turn
it
to
virgin
steel
and
so
forth,
but
you're
an
expert
in
logistics,
because
that's
what
you
do
for
a
living,
so
one
one
question
there
is:
is
there
anything
relevant
that
you're
doing
that
can
actually
help
us,
given
that
we're
doing
the
distributed
micro
factory
as
our
model?
F
F
F
A
The
the
thing
that
we
do
know
is
there's
called
a
program
called
oh
dude,
which
is
the
open
enterprise
planning
system
which
is
open,
ERP
used
to
be
called
its.
Oh
do
Community
Edition.
They
have
modules
for
that.
So
there's
some
software
in
there
already
that
just
big
enterprise
resource
planning
packages
that
are
open
source-
like
oh,
do
have
you
heard
of
oh
do.
Oh.
E
D
A
Yeah,
that's
yes,
I
definitely
thought
about
something
like
that.
If
you
can,
for
example
like
when
we
were
preparing
for
a
workshop,
our
slave
robot
could
actually
get
all
the
parts
out
for
us
because
that's
a
lot
of
work,
but
one
question
would
be
to
do
the
actual
inventory,
somebody's
gotta
count
stuff
or
scan
stuff.
It
would
be
so
great
if
you
could
have
the
artificial
intelligence,
computer
vision.
Where
say
the
robot
opens
up
your
drawer
and
actually
counts
for
you.
How
many
of
a
certain
thing
they
are
by
recognizing
it.
A
You
know
things
like
that
which
definitely
will
happen
sometime
in
the
future,
but
for
now
it's
likely.
Of
course
we
pick
out
the
parts
manually
so
but
yeah
I
mean
it's
a
big
topic.
That's
a
big
huge
topic
for
now
that
I
think
the
simple
thing
that
we
can
do
is
simple
scanning
like
like
I,
guess,
RFID
and
scanning
or
whatever.
But
then,
if
you
have
you
talking
about
screws
which
are
you
need
a
lot
of
them?
How
do
you
inventory
that?
Do
you
count
them?
That's
you
know
through
use
a
lot
of
screws.
F
A
B
A
You
know
what
one-one
relatively
simple
way
to
do
that
say:
we
have
a
wall
of
bins
like
these
right
now
we
use
these
ones
that
are
like
a
little
drawer.
So
imagine
your
automated
system,
you
have
a
wall
of
these,
and
the
automated
system
simply
takes
one
after
another.
Puts
them
on
a
scale,
weighs
them
and
gives
you
a
complete
report.
That
would
be
something
that
will
be
executable.
A
You
know
that
that
would
take
that
from
a
task
that
takes
you
a
day
to
you
know
like
no
time
really
and
then
it
would
say
it's
connected
to
an
automatic
ordering
system
that
if
you
know
you're
missing
some
of
some
part,
it
knows
that
it
has
to
order
that,
for
you
automatically,
so
you
totally
annihilate
the
inventory
scheme.
You
know
that
becomes
automatic.
F
A
I
yeah,
it's
just
I
mean
look
at
this.
We
have
the
universal
axis
right
now,
right,
that's
a
motion
system.
We
could
apply
the
universal
axis
to
pick
these
things
up,
so
you
got
easiest
implementation,
make
a
robot
an
XYZ
robot
which
is
based
on
a
universal
axis,
so
it
moves
just
like
the
3d
printer
and
you
just
program
it
to
pick
up
is
to
go
to
each
drawer.
Go
to
it
pick
it
up
and
put
it
on
a
scale.
A
I
mean
we
could
implement
something
like
that,
probably
in
a
month's
time,
if
we
put
our
attention
to
it-
and
it
probably
would
be
worth
it
like,
you
know.
You
know
now
that
we've
started
to
talk
about
this.
We
never
really
talked
about
this,
but
yeah
something's,
a
simple
system.
That's
based
on
a
universal
axis
would
be
perfect
and
that's
why
we're
very
deliberate
on
designing
simple
systems
like
the
universal
axis
over
which
we
have
complete
control?
We
don't
have
to
do
any
innovation
to
build,
say
a
big
frame
for
that
big
robot.
A
To
make
that
happen,
that's
the
beauty
of
our
construction
set
approach.
So
when
I
say
just
that's,
why
I
mean
just
because
we
can
use
all
the
technology
that
we
have
that's
already
standard
and
we
know
how
to
work
with
it.
You
know
and
then,
of
course,
the
software.
On
top
of
that.
That
will
be
pretty
much
all
of
that,
because
mechanically
we
could
make
it
happen.
We
need
an
algorithm
okay.
What
exactly
are
we
doing?
Are
we
just
weighing
this
picking
up
and
weighing
the
mechanical
we
can
implement
that
pretty
readily?
A
A
Yeah,
that's
that's
right!
Well,
but
the
other
thing
so,
the
other
part
of
inventory.
What
I
did
think
about
is
on-demand
production,
so
say
you
now
have
which
is
part
of
the
GBCs.
You
have
your
screw
machine
or
automated
CNC
multi
machine,
that's
multi-headed,
based
on
a
universal
axis
and
rotary
axis
systems.
So
it's
like,
like
the
screw
machined,
an
automated
lathe
that
makes
screws
and
then,
instead
of
inventory,
you're
feeding
that
with
rod
and
you're,
making
all
the
screws
and
bolts
and
everything
on
demand
using
machining.
A
That's
another
way
to
go
and
it's
exactly
what
screw
machines
do
they
produce
parts
on
demand?
Well,
nobody
does
it
on
demand,
but
for
us
I
thought
it
would
be
nice
if
we
had
in
our
micro
factory.
When
we
run
a
workshop,
we
can
produce
the
actual
screws
on
demand.
Using
this
automated
CNC
machining.
A
No,
not
true,
if
you
have
advanced
CNC
machining,
absolutely
not
true.
The
point
is
that
with
us,
I
mean
Google.
Look
at
some
screw
machines.
What
they
do
once
you
have
that
machine.
The
thing
can
pull
magic
out
of
thin
air
I
mean
you
really
got
it.
I
looked
at
this
for
a
long
time
on
examining
how
those
systems
work,
but
there
is
no
advantage
that
a
big
factory
has
first
screw
machine.
It
might
have
a
hundred
of
these
machines,
but
a
single
machine
is
enough
for
us.
A
B
G
A
The
question
is
like
one:
one
of
the
perennial
themes
of
OSE
is
the
sufficiency
criterion.
What
are
we
trying
to
do
if
we
have
stock,
which
is
very
cheap,
it's
cheaper
than
the
screw
yeah
we
can
start
with,
for
example,
rod,
stock
and
feed
that
automatically
into
the
machine,
so
we
can
produce
a
bunch
of
that.
So.
A
Now
another
discussion,
but
anyway
that's
let
let's
just
say:
that's
that's
happening
like
I-
think
that,
of
course,
we
don't
have
it
right
now,
but
what
exactly
are
the
limits
of
on-demand
production?
Because
because
remember
we
have
the
induction
furnace
as
part
of
the
the
micro
factory
right.
So
if
you
have
induction
furnace,
then
what
I
see
happening?
You've
got
scrap
steel
coming
in
one
end
and
things
like
the
parts
and
rods
for
the
3d
printer
out,
the
other.
That's
the
reality.
We're
setting
up
for
now.
A
B
A
A
E
F
A
Absolutely
the
absolutely
a
big
challenge
for
the
induction
furnace
infrastructure
is
also
part
of
that
is
alloying.
So,
for
example,
you
what
you
do
there
is
you
wire
feed,
different
metals
into
your
mix
to
get
the
proper
qualities?
If
you
want
that,
but
you
can
also
avoid
that,
if
you,
if
you
use
general
purpose
steel
like
like
a
formula
for
steel,
that's
say
very
flexible
for
a
lot
of
purposes.
So
so
it
depends.
It
depends
what
your
goal
is:
yep.
F
A
A
A
No,
no,
no
I'm,
not
forgetting
about
any
of
that.
It's
the
point
is
the
Devils
in
the
details,
I'm
just
giving
you
the
the
broad
stroke
description
when
you
go
into
it,
there's
a
lot
of
detail
right,
so
details
which
we
don't
have
and
that's
why
we're
working
on
the
open
source
open
sourcing?
All
of
this
just
like,
for
example,
you're
open
sourcing,
the
the
pipes.
A
It's
it's
all
these
details
that
matter:
okay,
hey
guys,
I
gotta
get
I
gotta
get
going,
though
you
got
a
meeting,
but
let's,
let's
continue
next
week
on
our
further
discussions
of
the
open
source
micro
factory
level,
1
&
2,
but
it
might
be
an
appropriate
time
that
I
can
start
sharing
some
of
this
like
well.
What
exactly
are
the
capacities
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
versus
what's
coming
up
in
the
future
and
included
in
the
GSG
VCS
versus?
Not?
A
But
if
you
miss
it,
don't
worry
about
it.
That's
why
I'm
writing
a
book
on
it.
So
I'm
gonna
cover
a
lot
of
this
stuff
in
my
book,
actually
so,
basically
trying
to
show
that
what
does
that
picture?
Look
like
because
I
kind
of
lived
that
kind
of
need
to
share
that
share
what
I
know
about
that
from
experiences
we've
gained
here
already:
okay,
guys,
but
I
gotta
get
going.
So
so,
let's
talk
next
week,
thanks
for
a
good
meeting
and
let's
continue
on
this
as
we
open
source
the
world's
economy,
invite
bye
guys.