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B
A
Yeah,
no,
we
want
to
continue
from
where
we
left
off
last
time,
so
so
collaboration
with
msi
in
collaboration.
We
could
can
do
something
like
a
chapter
with
you
guys
or
something
like
that.
If
you
guys
are
interested,
so
I
think
that
we
left
off
on
on
other
the
coveted
equipment
stuff.
So
maybe
we
can.
A
B
B
And
then
yeah
there
was
something
wrong
with
my
audio
video
last
time,
because
I
tried
to
use
some
other
software's
later
that
same
day
and
they
just
got
totally
wigged
out.
I
needed
to
restart,
and
not
everything
was
all
right,
so
this
is
working
great
today
show
chat
there.
We
go
great
okay,
let's
put
this
in
this
tab
over
here.
We're
ready
to
go.
A
B
That's
good
the
the
surge
and
number
of
people
getting
cobra
19's
got
me
really
worried
and
chicago
is
opening
up
stuff
too
fast
in
my
opinion,
and
then,
as
soon
as
they
go
to
a
different
phase,
everybody
in
my
building
thinks
they
can
stop
wearing
a
mask.
It's
really
stupid
indoors
like
we're.
On
top,
I
live
in
a
high-rise
apartment
with
a
high
density
of
people,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
told
you
last
time
they
get
into
the
lobby
and
they
take
their
mask
off
because
they
think
they're
home
and
I'm
like.
B
How
do
you
tell
them
like
that's
the
worst
time
to
take
off
your
mask
because
you
got
all
this
everybody's
trapped
together,
there's
all
kinds
of
particles
in
there,
and
so
I'm
wearing
my
full
respirator
again,
because
I
think
there's
gonna
be
a
search.
I
might
lose
my
job
because
of
this.
If
we
can't
open
the
museum
back
up,
they're
gonna
have
to
make
more
cuts,
they
already
caught
200
people
and
the
people
are
not
taking
it
seriously
and
republicans
you
want
to
return
to
business
then
make
everybody
wear
masks.
B
That's
how
you
return
to
business.
Yeah
you
got
to
get
rid
of
the
kobe
19.
they're,
just
so
for
the
museum.
Is
it
do
people
pay
for
admission?
That's
it's
revenue,
yeah!
That's
huge!
That's
a
huge
amount
of
money
that
that
keeps
the
basically,
the
mission
keeps
the
building
standing
and
then
everything
else
beyond
that
we
have
to
get
grants
or
other
things,
that's
a
huge
building
right
so
yeah.
So
I'm
I'm
going,
I'm!
I
think
we're
going
to
be
going
back
into
a
phase
two
and
so
they're,
always
a
little
bit
behind.
B
B
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
They
gave
him
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
immediately
to
keep
running
things
because
they
realized
it
was
going
to
help
the
community
and
I'm
a
former
catholic
and
now
an
atheist,
but
the
jesuit
priests
really
care
about
the
community
around
them.
They're
really
smart,
you
might
have
heard
of
them
before,
and
so
they
provided
a
lot
of
funding
and
then
they
allowed
jay
to
remove
all
the
3d
printers
from
his
makerspaces
throughout
depaul,
and
then
students
ran
them
in
their
homes.
A
B
So
that's
why
we,
I
just
say
to
paul-
and
it's
huge,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
private
college.
It's
I'd
say
it's
almost
ivy
league.
If
it
isn't
it's
probably
ivy
league
and
so
and
then
I,
when
depaul
released
their
printers
and
a
couple
other
university
released
the
printers
that
allowed
me
to
really
get
the
printers
out
of
msi.
B
A
B
B
B
You
should
read
that
whole
series,
because
that
will
explain
how
we
ran
things,
but
to
put
it
in
summary,
there
is
no
central
control
node
in
the
illinois
ppe
network.
We
on
the
illinois
pp
network.
You
can
see
you
can
click
on
a
button
I
can
make
and
if
you
click
on
that
it
goes
to
a
forget
what
it's
called
something
table.
B
B
I
don't
have
enough
to
complete
this
order
and
then
somebody
will
move
parts
from
another
another
node
over
to
another
node
and
then
it
gets
delivered.
And
then
it's
basically
was
started
by
I'd,
say
about
12
hackers
in
chicago
started.
This
group,
because
we're
the
only
ones
that
will
take
the
risk
government
wasn't
doing
the
job
at
any
level,
from
federal
all
the
way
down
to
local
and
we
gave
them
a
chance
and
they
they.
They
failed
and
weren't
able
to
tell
us
where
they're
gonna
move
our
parts.
B
B
You
know,
like
I
said
last
time,
the
guys
that
recently
got
released
from
prison,
how
to
do
3d
printing,
so
I'm
shifting
gears
into
into
an
area
where
there
isn't
other
people
that
have
the
same
expertise
as
me.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
sewing
experts
out
there
that
can
be
handled
by
the
community.
How.
B
Yeah
there
you
go:
oh
yeah,
the
peoria
peoria
note,
so
we
we
we've
even
started
to
get
request.
We've
been
delivering
stuff
to
hospitals
in
indiana,
even
and
then
just
for
context.
There's
another
note
up
in
milwaukee
north
of
us,
but
it's
it's
a
different
group.
So
each
state
has
a
certain
number
of
these
groups
doing
this
work
and
that
plan
c
by
dale
doherty
talks
about
the
entire
global
movement
of
of
plan
c
makers
from
europe
to
the
united
states,
and
he
does
a
really
good
job.
B
A
B
A
B
He's
a
vfw
hall
and
then
he
has
the
couriers
that
we
use
are
former
veterans,
so
he
just
gives
them
an
order
and
they
come
to
my
house.
They
pick
up
the
stuff
and
then
they
bring
it
to
the
hospital
like
clockwork.
It's
awesome,
then
we
also
use
for
really
short
distances.
We
use
bike
couriers
because
a
bunch
of
bicycle
racers,
so
I'm
an
amateur
bicycle
racer
and
a
bunch
of
the
people
in
the
group
are
as
well
so
a
long
time.
B
B
B
A
B
Churches,
I'm
sure
I
think,
in
rural
areas,
two
churches
are
really
powerful
organizations
that
really
help
people.
So
we
will,
even
though
the
museum
is
non-denominational
and
neutral
on
religion,
we
work
with
a
lot
of
churches
on
the
south
side
of
chicago,
because
they're,
the
only
organizations
that
are
actually
helping
the
community,
the
government,
all
their
people
and
all
that
just
blow
it
off.
How.
A
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
don't
think
we
should
make
them.
You
can
still
I've
been
buying
these
yeah,
so
I've
been
purchasing
these
and
then
what
I
have.
What
I
have
here
is
I
have,
as
you
know,
probably
you
have
that
you
have
the
intake
on
both
sides
right.
So
when
you
inhale
you
suck
air
through
these
cartridges,
yeah
and
then,
when
you
exhale
it
dumps
out
the
exhale
port.
That
is
a
problem
because
we
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
I
have
coveted
19
or
if
I'm
going
to
transmit
it.
B
So
I
3d
printed
an
n95
filter
for
the
exhaust
port.
You
put
some
electrical
taper
on
it
and
you
jam
it
in
there.
You
only
pull
it
out.
It's
really
in
there
tight,
let's
see
here,
because
I
don't
want
it
to
leak.
So
here's
my
n95
homemade
3d
printed
item
so
and
then
this
I
can't
touch
my
eyes
either.
I
touch
my
face
all
the
time
and
that's
really
bad
because
you
get
the
virus
in
your
eyes
and
then
you
got
it
right
right
and
you
you
just
look.
B
A
B
These
discs
they're
really
cheap.
So
let
me
show
you
those
and
then
also
if
I
need
to
wear
my
glasses,
I
got
a
half
mask,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
people
use
for
painting
same
thing
on
the
half
mask.
I
got
to
modify
this
one.
I
just
got
to
put
an
exhaust
port
filter
on
the.
Let
me
turn
this
down.
I
need
to
put
the
same
thing
where
I
could
jam
in
an
exhaust
port
filter,
yeah.
A
B
Is
I
I
don't
think
you
you
don't
need
to
know
if
you
have
an
n95
filter
here,
I'll
tell
you
what
the
documentation
is
it's
in
the
manual
for
the
respirator
I'll
show
you
it
actually.
So
what
people
need
to
know
is
how
to
do
a
fit
test.
Let
me
grab
my
I'm.
I'm
gonna
grab
my
extra
masks
here,
they're
in
a
drawer
in
here,
see
here
and
then
I
also
have
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
I've
been
thinking
about
protesting.
B
B
B
B
So
I
was
pretty
fast
at
because
I've
done
it
a
lot.
So
what
I
did
is,
I
put
my
hand
over
the
exhaust
port
and
I
applied
pressure
outwards,
and
then
you
can
feel
if
air
is
leaking
out
of
your
seal
around
your
face
and
then
you
tighten
it
up
until
you
no
longer
have
leakage
now
you're
ready
to
go,
you
can
go
into
an
environment
like
I've
worked
in
industrial
environments
where
you
would
inhale
some
kind
of
gas.
It'd
be
bad
for
you
now.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
do
that.
B
B
B
Any
full
face
piece
or
half
face
piece,
you
just
you,
can
look
it
up,
respirator
fit
testing
and
the
reason
why
and
then
the
hospitals
have
a
more
complicated
one
which
I
think
is
stupid
because
in
industry
you
know
people
are
going
around
chlorine,
gas
and
all
kinds
of
heavy
gases
and
that's
the
fit
test
they
do.
And
then
they
go
into
the
environment.
Do
their
work,
yeah
done
and.
A
So,
what's
what's
to
be
said
about
altogether
this
ppe
work
is
there
stuff
to
learn
regarding,
like
I
don't
know
like
say,
we
wanted
to
get
people
from
the
community
here
to
to
produce
stuff
and
actually
hire
them
pay
them.
What
are
are
there?
Is
there
any
guidance
on
like
how
would
you
fund
that,
for
example,.
A
B
And
then
and
then
determine
if
the
community
wants
to
wear,
face,
masks
or
masks
right
cloth
masks.
Then
if
you
have
a
market,
then
I'd
say
then
you
start
making
what
they
want.
So
for
us,
the
swedish
covenant
face
shield
was
what
we
made,
because
the
swedish
covenant
hospitals,
three
of
them,
approved
that
and
worked
with
us
on
the
design
and
then
every
other
hospital
wanted
in
chicago.
A
B
Okay,
so
here
is
ray.
Doksen
he'd
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
about
logistics,
although
I
don't
think
legends
is
going
to
be
complicated
for
you
guys.
You
know,
dealing
with
hospitals
in
the
city
is
a
lot
more
complex
because
you're
going
to
have
a
couple
hospitals
in
your
area
and
then
you'll
get
to
know
them.
So
that's
an
advantage
that
you
have
being
in
a
rural
rural
area
and
then,
let's
give
you
the
is.
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
So
there's
a
swedish
facial
covenant.
Covenant
face
shield
one
I'd
suggest
that
one
for
starting
out
with
and
providing
samples,
there's
some
issue
where
there
needs
to
be
something
on
top,
which
he
has
a
print
file
for
that
as
well.
So
if
you
check
out
his
his
site,
all
right,
doksen
ray
dokson's,
if
you
want
to
talk
about
logistics
later
and
how
to
talk
to
hospitals
and
then
the
limitless
studio,
the
link
I
descent
swedish
shield
is
the
is
a
really
good
shield.
It
was
really
optimized
for
3d
printing
now.
B
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
Yes,
richard
vine
is
very
humble,
so
he
didn't,
he
doesn't
want
to
take
credit
for
the
design.
Actually
he
wants
it
to
be
used.
That's
why
I
can't
understand.
I
don't
know
if
he
just
forgot
to
license
it
properly
or
what
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
get
into
my
design
now,
which
is
public
domain
and
then
the
same
thing
with
my
full
face
piece:
exhaust
port
and
95
filter.
That's
public
domain
as
well.
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
the
transparencies
are
in
michigan
and
they
they
have
like
an
endless
supply
of
them,
because
some
people
are
like
ordering
off
amazon
and
like
they're
out
of
stock,
and
then
they
start
raising
the
prices
on
them.
You
know
how
that
stupid
just
works.
So,
let's
see
here,
I
need
to
open
up
my.
B
B
B
B
Yeah
15
at
a
time
and
then
I
was
making
between
300
and
600
per
24
hour
period
at
max
rate
wow.
It
was
nice,
it
was
awesome,
yeah
and
then
then
I
started
assembling
full
kits
later
on.
Once
I
got
used
to
running
the
machines
and
repairing
them
because
it
would
break
down
once
in
a
while
and
then
I
would
just
hole,
punch
stuff.
A
A
B
B
B
Let
me
send
you
I'm
going
to
send
you
elastic
so
now,
I'm
going
to
do,
I'm
gonna
send
oh
yeah,
okay,
that's
the!
I
just
sent
you
the
hole
punch
because
I'm
sending
the
bomb
now
pieces
because
there's
stuff
in
between
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
like
for
running
my
machines
and
then
here's
the
actual
lean
socks
elastic.
I
used
listen
that
next
and
then
yeah,
that's
it!
So
that's
the
hole,
punch
the
elastic
and
then
I
should
send
you
the
filament.
B
I
have
a
preferred
filaments
provider
which,
interestingly,
it
was
color
fab
and
they
ship
faster
than
any
domestic
supplier
to
me
and
the
quality
of
their
filament
is
unbelievably
awesome,
which
you
really
need
when
you're
running
20
printers
11
hours
at
a
time
actually
22
hours
every
day,
so
they're
only
down
for
two
hours,
one
hour
in
each
11
hour
period.
So
you
cannot.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
A
B
A
A
Not
really
it's
phrase:
it's
it
works
and
just
getting
a
better
supply,
it's
the
stuff
that
doesn't
really
fray
because
for
fraying
it's
you
get
the
dust
in
the
air,
but
don't
worry
about
it.
Now.
Okay,
but
let's,
let's
move
on
here,
I
got
a
definite
cutoff
in
45
minutes,
but
let's
cover
maybe
so
thank
you
for
the
stuff
on
ppe
stuff,
that's
good,
definitely
worth
looking
into
yeah.
I
mean
what
I
envision
is,
I
think,
probably
get
into
just
just
assessing
some
of
the
needs
and
producing
some
of
these.
A
A
B
B
B
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
Yeah
go
to
point
eight
and
then
you
should
make
the
serrations
in
between
point
eight
tall.
Okay,
let
me
show
you
here.
Let
me
share
my
screen
because,
if
you're
going
to
do
this,
you
need
to
understand
one
critical
part
see
here:
let's
go
to
this,
let's
see
here,
oh,
I
also
have
the
on
shape
file
links.
B
A
B
Because
I'm
going
on
shape
right
now
to
open
them
and
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen,
so
you
can
see
it
because
there's
one
junction,
there's
a
there's,
a
real
important,
very
small
detail
that
made
a
huge
difference
and
being
able
to
pull
the
frames
apart.
You
know
it'll
make
sense
once
I
show
it
to
you.
Okay,.
B
B
B
That
surface
is
really
important?
There's
a
material
saver
there.
If
you
don't
have
that
slight
divot,
which
should
be
as
deep
as
your
layer
height,
it
will
stick.
Every
single
stack
part
will
stick
really
bad
and
it'll.
Tear
apart
when
you
pull
it
apart,
so
you
need
to
have
a
little
air
gap
in
there.
So
this.
B
A
A
B
B
Yep,
that's
the
that's
the
fixture!
So
that's
this
file
right
here.
So
this
cooling,
fixture,
stl
and
then
here's
the
template,
pdf.
So
that's
you
could
do
you
can
do
either
one.
Let's
say
you
don't
have
a
big
printer
and
you're
just
alone
printing.
Then
you
just
do
the
template
and
you
can
use
chopsticks
to
bend
them
open.
The
cooling
fixture
just
makes
a
lot
easier,
especially
when
I
was
doing
600
a
day.
The
cooling
fixture
made
a
lot.
It
was
a
lot
nicer
to
use
that.
B
A
B
That's
what
I
would
suggest,
because
I
did
a
lot
of
work
on
this
assembly
stack.
So
you
could
just
copy
my
whole
entire
onshape
thing
and
then
you
could
go
in
there
and
you
could
here's
the
support
interface
tab.
The
support
interface
tab
is
a
separate
model.
Yeah
you
can
just
go
in
here,
increase
the
height
of
these
little
notes
and
there's
one
dimension
that
controls
all
of
them.
A
B
B
A
So
collaborative
projects,
the
thing
I
want
to
run
by
you
is
is
so
we're
we're
starting
the
notion
of
osc
chapters,
where
we
can
teach
people
how
to
build
printers
or
run
steam
camps
and
do
that
as
a
business
as
incorporated
osc
chapters.
So
we're
we're
talking
about
that
with
andreas
for
sweden,
but
basically
like
serious
chapter
where
it'll
take
you
a
bit
of
time,
it's
a
year
or
two
engagement
to
learn
to
learn
what
you
need
to
to
know.
A
We've
tried
month
long,
two
month,
long
immersions
before
just
not
enough
time
for
somebody
to
pick
up
all
the
skills
to
to
build
and
and
produce
a
3d
printer
and
learn
design
in
that
time,
so
we're
gonna
expand
it
to
max
it
out
to
like
a
year
or
two.
I
I'd
look
at
it
as
a
year
where
the
first
year,
you
really
learn,
learn,
learn
everything
and
then
get
the
business
up
and
running
in
the
second
year.
A
So
this
is
about
training
people
to
replicate
the
full
operation
of
what
we
can
do
to
generate
revenue
with
building
3d
printers
of
different
types
and
then
adding
new
products.
The
goal
of
this
is
to
to
coordinate
r
d,
so
people
so
that
osc
would
have
branches
that
develop
product
in
different
locations,
because
right
now
it's
once
again,
as
I
mentioned,
one
of
the
big
challenges
is
turnover.
People,
just
don't
don't
stick
around
the
deal,
for
that
is
is
livelihoods
and
we
can
begin
talking
about
livelihoods
from
the
printer
sales.
A
But
that's
that's
the
general
idea
I
was
the
the
offer.
Is
I
mean
what
I
was
going
to
say
is:
can
we
find
some
students
and
the
infrastructure
to
support
them
to
take
this
on
as
a
serious
effort
like
like
as
a
community
economic
development
project?
So
so
I
would
see
people
like
whatever
like
chamber
of
commerce
getting
involved,
or
people
like
scores,
service
corps
of
retired
executives,
up
where
the
student
would
be
supported
by
a
mentor,
a
person
like
you
who
can
show
them
around
in
a
in
a
shop.
A
There
needs
to
be
a
facility,
and
there
needs
to
be
some
some
funding
for
the
basic
production
infrastructure,
because
what
I
would
see
like
if
you
want
to
produce
printers
kits,
I
have
a
cluster
right
now.
I
have
eight
printers,
but
I
think
a
minimum
viable
cluster
is
like
six
printers
to
get
into
good
production,
where
you
can
just
meet
orders
and
crank
out,
like
20
printers
in
a
weekend
or
whatever,
basically
for
like
100
printer
basic,
like
100
printer
per
month
capacity.
A
A
B
B
A
So
we're
not
into
just
random
design
like
fab
labs
like
fab
labs,
don't
cover
collaborative
design,
as
far
as
I
can
tell
collaborative
design
would
mean
that
you
narrow
down
to
specific
tools,
both
software
and
hardware,
that
you
use
so
that
when
you're
developing
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
not
like
oh,
this
is
different
than
yours.
It's
just
impossible.
B
A
Scale
that
without
what
I
call
tool
chain,
degeneracy,
meaning
you're
degenerating
that
to
a
small
set
that
can
do
everything,
but
it's
uniform
for
everybody.
Just
like
it's
like
okay.
To
give
you
a
metaphor
with
software,
it's
like
if
people
were
not,
I
guess
the
metaphor
and
software
would
be
like
if
people
were
using
different,
different
compilers
to
get
the
same
source
code
and
the
compiler
would
produce
produce
different
different
instances
of
the
code.
A
That's
what
tool
chain
degeneracy
is
you
got
to
have
that
identical
so
that
you
don't
get
the
variability
of
results?
So
this
this
is
about
quality
control
of
the
final
products.
If
we're
selling
products,
it's
about
getting
uniform,
scalable
prototyping
results.
If
people
are
prototyping,
so
you
can
compare
things
that
are
same.
A
It's
just
part
of
distributed
quality
control.
So
the
introduction
of
the
word
distributed
quality
control,
that's
something
that
I'm
not
really
aware
of
anyone
that
does
distribute
quality
control,
but
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
a
distributed
economy,
you
have
to
talk
about
mechanisms
where,
where
quality
control
is
done
in
a
distributed
way-
and
it
starts
with
the
tool
chain
itself,
so
it
would
have
to
be
pretty
much
uniform.
A
A
A
A
A
com
building
a
3d
printer
from
scratch,
understanding
how
to
build
an
extruder,
heated
bed,
the
controller,
everything
and
then
their
software.
The
collaborative
aspect
of
how
do
you
collaborate
on
a
on
a
larger
scale,
using
basic
protocols
and
and
freecads
software,
that's
accessible
to
anybody,
and
why
we
also
just
to
note
like
what's
up
with
freecad?
Well,
I
mean
we
can't
do
what
we
need
to
do
with
anything
else.
For
example,
right
now,
one
of
our
guys
is
designing.
He's
he's
already.
A
Novice
can
do
that
now
because
we
programmed
that
in
and
that's
possible
only
because
freecad
allows
itself
to
be
extensible
and
she
can
program
up
anything
that
you
want
to
do
so
so
g
roquez,
our
guy
here,
he's
so
he's
doing
the
workbench
construction
set
right
now
in
freecad,
where
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
for
every
single
machine.
So
when
we
have
the
torch
table,
here's
the
torch
table
designer
for
different
variations.
Here's
the
tractor
designer
for
all
the
variations.
A
A
If
we
want
and
and
we're
talking
about
we're
not
talking
about,
you
know
flight
in
the
night
effort,
it's
we're
talking
about
a
long-term
effort
to
change
the
techno
sphere,
we're
talking
about
a
10-year
program
until
2028,
that's
like
eight
years
actually
only
eight
years
but
beyond
that
open
source,
the
civilization's
technosphere.
So
your
your
solenoids,
your
hydraulic
motors,
electric
motors
components,
making
metal
and
all
that's.
That's
all
available
to
any
community
to
to
bootstrap
civilization
from
local
resources.
A
B
B
Well,
it's
because
one
of
the
big
ones
is
because
they're
not
standardizing.
How
do
you
you
know
like?
How
do
you
have
people
build
machines
and-
and
I
think
more
importantly,
how
do
you
have
people
share
their
knowledge
of
building
machines
unless
you're
building
standard
machines
like
you're
doing
and
then
you're
right,
free
cat
is
the
way
to
go?
I
have
it
installed
on
this
computer.
I've
been
using
it
for
tool,
pathing,
cnc
toolpathing,
exactly
and
I've
been
messing
around
with
it,
and
it's
it's
almost
there
like.
B
B
B
Finished
cuts.
You
know
I've
been
in
tool
shops
before
so
I
know
the
process
too,
and
it's
it's
awesome.
It's
unbelievable
actually
free
cat
that
and
then
neil
convinced
me
to
look
at
it
again.
He's
like
dan
look
at
freecad,
give
it
a
chance-
and
I
did
it
so
neil
knows
what's
required
and
and
then
neil
is
a
huge
believer
in
the
full
open
source
tool
chain.
So
yeah.
B
Like
you
know,
I
have
thousands
of
feet
of
that,
but
while
I'm
doing
that,
I'm
going
to
have
in
the
back
of
my
mind
like
okay,
what
about
ose?
How
would
this
you
know
work
and
I
have
looked?
I
saw
your
drag
and
drop
tool
chain
stuff
on
the
documentation
for
the
3d
printer.
I
looked
at
the
3d
printer
pretty
carefully
and
I
use
the
I
use
that
same
reprap
display.
A
A
A
For
hardware
they're
quite
libre
friendly,
but
the
discussion
there
will
be
like
I'm
gonna,
see
if
they're
interested.
If
we
could
do
the
the
high
temperature
printer
with
them,
it's
a
crowdfunding
for
a
hardware
thing,
but
there's
a
deeper
proposition.
That
is
okay.
Let's
look
at
the
now.
The
parts
like
I
want
to
make
the
power
supplies
the
inductive
sensors,
the
controller
boards,
the
arduinos
that
has
to
happen.
I
cannot
be
sourcing
that
we
cannot
keep
continue
continuing
forever
to
source
that
from
china.
That's
just
ridiculous!.
A
And
it's
just
a
basic
basic
notion
of
saying:
okay:
well,
let's
just
look
a
little
deeper
and
certainly
the
kova
definitely
pushed
me
into
that.
And
it's
not
a
big
deal.
You
talk
about
now.
You
add
your
fab
tool
chain
for
electronics,
so
cnc
milling
and
pick
and
place
machines,
and
then
for
the
small
metal
parts
you're
talking
about
open
source
screw
machines
which
the
universal
axis
plus
rotary
axis
and
its
scalable
instance
can
get
you
that
readily
that's.
A
It's
almost
like
a
low-hanging
fruit
project
for
the
universal
access
application,
including
material
feed
that
feeds
through
a
big
12-inch
truck.
Like
all
of
that,
like
screw
machine,
give
me
a
team
of
a
thousand
people
will
have
it
done
over
a
weekend.
I
could
run
a
process
like
that,
because
it's
almost.
B
A
We're
talking
about
reinventing
the
industrial
system,
so
it's
anything
so
you're.
Talking
about
your
small
mom
and
pop
shop
for
your
own
operation,
replacing
industrial
equipment
that
gm
and
spacex
I
mean
competitive,
meets
or
exceeds
industry
standards,
eventually,
with
enough
eyeballs
on
it.
We're.
A
You
got
to
do
the
the
full
thing
that
works
for
a
full
thing
that
works
you
can't
this
is
not
hobby.
This
is
about
stuff
that
works
and
has
has
to
be
industrial
grade.
That's
one
of
our
basic
basic
aims,
an
immediate
sense.
It
would
be
producing
all
the
parts
like,
for
example,
the
say
the
heat
breaks,
the
the
heater
blocks,
heat
sinks
readily
doable,
and
that
needs
to
happen.
A
A
A
Think
we
can
sell.
That's
that's
a
value
proposition,
that's
something
that
is,
I
would
say,
an
important
question
there
are
you
know
there?
Are
we
like
to
work
on
important
questions?
That
is
an
important
question.
So
it's
not
a
question
whether
that
that
has
value.
The
question
is:
can
we
execute
on
that
and
deliver
that
to
the
world,
but
that's
the
that's
the
context
for
getting
the
chapters
involved.
It's
we're
saying.
A
B
A
Deck,
for
which
reason
the
next
thing
we're
looking
at
is.
I
want
to
do
this
experiment
on
the
extreme
enterprise,
where
we're
putting
together
like
200
to
a
thousand
people
over
a
weekend
and
see
if
this
scales
like
we
think
it
does
by
the
radical
modular
task,
division
and
agile
process
to
do
that,
so
so
very
careful
role,
allocation
task
breakdown
for
a
massive
collaboration
process.
That's
what
we
need
to
get
to.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
we
can
do
without
that.
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
A
A
Like
either
like
electric
motor,
the
the
other
candidate
for
the
extreme
enterprise
would
be
something
like
electric
motor
coupled
to
maybe
like
an
air
purifier
for
covid
like
office
space,
which
filters
if,
if
you've
got
like
100
square
foot
area
in
an
office
where
it's
actually
safe
for
you,
regardless.
If
someone
else
has
covered
next
to
you,
like,
maybe
maybe
do
some
kind
of
a
sprint
extreme
enterprise
event
around
a
product
like
that.
A
A
A
B
A
If
you
want
a
thousand
of
these,
because
you
got
you
want
to
make
a
thousand
respirators
by
by
next
weekend,
then
you
can
just
send
it
off
to
a
board
shop
and
you
get
the
thousand
boards.
If
you
want
to
do
that
like
it
could
be
both
like
so
someone
who
doesn't
have
a
circuit
mill,
they
can
wait.
Two
weeks
pay
three
dollars
to.
B
I
had
a
really
long
conversation
with
peter
zeba
yeah,
who
is
the
he's
the
founder
of
this
analytics
lounge
in
chicago,
which
is
open
source
science,
oh
cool,
and
he
has
taken
apart
like
haas
mill
and
then
rebuilt
it
and
get
it
running
again,
he's
a
really
heavy
duty
kind
of
guy,
and
I
think
that
he
might
be
a
candidate
if
you
could
find
grant
funding
for
him
to
do
your
year-long
thing.
I
think
he'd
be
totally
into
it
and
he
was.
B
He
was
yelling
at
me
other
day,
like
a
like
a
zealot
he's
like
why?
Don't
we
have
pick
and
place
machines
where
you
can
just
go
and
make
your
own
circuits?
I
don't
understand
why
anybody
doesn't
understand
why
that's
important
to
make
your
own
circuits
or
sending
everything
to
china.
He
was
just
going
on
and
on
about
it
and
he's
very
into
that.
He
also
wants
to
democratize
machine
tools
and
stuff
like
that.
B
B
A
You
know
you
got
open
source
so-called
hardware,
I
mean
it
is
open
source,
but
then,
if
the
production
tool
chain
is
completely
proprietary,
then
I
mean
what
does
that
mean
for
open
source?
You
certainly
cannot
produce
those
things
yourself,
the
district,
so
the
thing
we
propose
is
the
distributive
idea
make
the
tool
chain
definitely
open
source
as
well.
B
A
B
That's
the
that's
the
whole
part
everybody's
not
focused
on,
and
you
are,
is
that
we
need
to
have
the
means
for
reduction
democratized
the
means
the
part
like
the
the
circuit
board
designs.
The
autofruit
should
open
source
their
pick
and
place
programming
like
they're,
not
getting
it.
That's
that's
real
open
source,
in
my
opinion,
well.
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
Really
quickly
and
interestingly,
I
had
a
couple
experiences:
that's
what
I'm
calling
out
for,
and
I
had
a
couple
of
interesting
conversations
like
that.
Last
week,
two
people
were
like
you
smoke
and
crack
other
people
are
like
yeah.
This
is
this
is
cool
like
you're
you're,
one
of
them
that
think
that
is,
this
is
cool,
so
we
got
to
build
a
team
of
people
who
actually
believe
it
like
that.
That's
our
vetting!
That's
it's!
A
really
quick
test
of
where
people
stand.
A
A
B
B
Yeah,
okay,
all
right,
I
think
peter
zeba
I'm
going
to
let
him
know
about
you
guys.
I
think
he
might
be
a
candidate
there's.
I
think,
there's
other
people
in
chicago
that
are
coming
to
mind.
That
would
want
to
build
some
of
the
machines
here,
the
osc
machines,
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
start
exploring
that
over
the
next
months
to
a
year,
because
this
is
a
long
arc
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
want
to
think
about
it,
some
more
too
okay.
This
is
great.
Thank
you
for
spending
so
much
time.
You
know.
B
A
B
B
And
then
I
want
to
present
my
sheena
machine
at
that.
So
that's
my
motivation
and
I
still
have
a
lot
of
design
work
left
to
do,
and
I
got
a
lot
to
do
this
week
and
that'll
be
the
first
machine
in
the
fab
shop
series
it'll
be
the
cnc
foam
cutter
which
will
cut
rc
airplanes
because
that's
what
I
want
to
make
and
then
also
make
foam
patterns
for
sand
casting.
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
B
A
Oh
yeah
and
let's
see
awesome
so
that
so
that
that's
a
great
way
to
study
that
if
we
want
to
do
because
definitely
like
I'd
like
to
see
the
fab
academy
be
completely
based
around
collaborative
design,
because
what
you
guys
do
right
now
is
everyone
gets,
gets
an
individual
project.
Well,
what?
If
everybody
collaborated
on
something
that
actually
works?
A
A
B
B
I
totally
agree,
but
what
ask
neil
about
that?
Maybe
he
would
do
it
like
this
is
this
he
does.
I
don't
know
if
he
actually
gets
paid
for
this.
Even
he
kind
of
does
this
as
because
he
loves
it.
Yeah,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
an
issue
with
neil
is
that
we
ask
him
to
change
the
bill
of
materials
to
update
it
to
more
modern
stuff.
He
won't
do
it
like.
A
B
A
Oh,
you
you'd
increase
your
learning
you're,
not
like
reinventing
your
own
mistakes,
you're
learning
from
others.
I
mean
scrum
principles
say
that
you
should
at
least
do
two
people,
that's
industry
standards,
so
you
so
you
could
in
programming
or
effectiveness
of
learning.
You
should
do
at
least
two
people.
So
that's.
B
A
B
The
fab
shop
will
be
a
standard
set
of
equipment
to
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
they
learn
and
they
do
it
together.
I'm
there
to
help
them
and
then
they
can
handle
something
like
neil's
fab
academy.
Where
it's
you
know
it's
it's
it's
rough.
It's
an
mit
course
yeah
you're
right.
There
needs
to
be
this
standardized
equipment
for
everybody
to
learn
together.
Then
all
the
modifications
come
after
that
on
the
standardized
equipment.