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Dev Team Meeting - see notes at https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Development_Team_Log

1. Covered the Open Source Microfactory STEAM Camp - https://www.opensourceecology.org/open-source-microfactory-stem-camp/

2. OSE Incentive Challenge

3. D3D work - PVC pipe by Abe, v19.04 by Marcin, v18.08 by Eric

4. Discussion on Summer of Extreme Design Build potential for 2020

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Recording okay, so it's Tuesday, May 14th meeting of the OSE dev team, a few people on today. A couple of announcements for me are so one big piece of news is, of course, the open source microfactory steam camp, so an experimental camp on nine-day event.

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That's our next big event, some new things happening in there as we continue to work on a 3d printer and get that out mmm out to production and also I'm continuing it in the background here meeting with my mentor on on marketing- and that is with respect to the developing the cordless drill incentive challenge. So that's.

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Okay, that's that's better! So I want to update a little bit on that on a cordless drill challenge as one of the things so using hero X. If you've heard about hero, X.

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So, hero XCOM and we're planning on using that for design challenge and sent up Sean we're actually put up.

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Perspective note, as always, is there's a few things out there in the world. That truly are a superb live example, and look at some challenges that are up there platform. One look at was both wisely designing a sink person takeoff landing. Basically, a human-sized or boeing is offering for now two million dollars to do that, and you know the structured way to do it. There's rules of the game pretty good. So please look with your last to the connects people last year. Already, all of this, as we were starting to talk about.

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Oh, let's see how this gets a large Club bonuses and other things you can do is to offer a prize where all the people are decentralized to come treated system of the limiter, my sweet here. So, let's that's sure,.

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So if you take a look at this challenge right here, the idea is by using proper incentive structure, a lot of people to cooperate on and that's symmetric. So so a part of our blocking that you can see on a development team and it's hard to get people to cooperate. You have to have a common line with everything looking like.

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Nestle, but for us it's gonna be different game. Like maybe knows any talent on there. There's not a single.

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Open everybody.

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It's just something that everyone has that, so it's essentially Public Interest evelopment, so that will apply not in that example, country of winning designs victory only decisis is nothing different source. Its clapper does not necessarily open and.

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Actually producing this, that's.

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Artist versus serious trouble to be built. The challenge part of it is a design. Their part is a surprise and collaboration in this structure. If you want to create a model that can be applied, all the banks, so that's that's active Eric, saying as far as what what wing the cause drill, try and.

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This camp, we also also do that again, every two days to cordless drill, which means with mothers, control of charger or so so that so to move on I'll go to the second topic, which is the the stem camp. The steam castle.

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As there's a couple of things that we really will have the opportunity this time around.

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Its prominent there is open source, microfactory steam camp 45.

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Well, we already got four signups, that's pretty most of that just a few days. Oh, so that's the plenty of using their solos I'm, not sure 100 I put a picture of the here. So thinking about. What's the simplest of the limitation of that you.

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Can use our CNC circle mill doing that, so the focus will be. This is the one this universal access.

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Like everything that here is primary long, except for this torched, a better cook, that's the machine of relaxing but working primarily at a delimiter rods, but think of what happens when you scan off to Lynch and too much a two-inch u-verse axis system. That means carriage this. It's gonna be at least all eight inches about two to two thousand is vaguely everything just like you see here.

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May universal access, except this thing except huge, and we talked about doing taxes, look at the force calculation you made it like to, but the CNC map you get half a thousandth. You see in terms of thickness read that of the election. That happened to two inch rod.

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Okay, that's right! That's right! Thousands of ten microns to so that's that's decent and get us. It says to some basic milling operations that we'll see how it works, but the focus of that we will start building the larger things and we'll have all the axes, part vailable. We will have.

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To make famous design one thing actually, as implied in our own picture here, there will be time to do some welding, so we can build the frames, build the universal axis and super dies them and for the one-inch axis you can put on a torch head, so that means mounting a torch handle on that we'll probably get to clean it off. I love the pair that we automatic air salon line, so we can actually have a automatic turn on which would inquire Auto ignition. We can possibly give them a shadow with the axis.

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Around it said, torch head onto the axis and for them to in charge on the mill heavy DeMille we're looking at. So it's at that point. Looking like comfortable horsepower.

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Hydraulic motors looking to run from the power QC values- yeah, that's the socialist force. We've got a lot of different hydric motors were flying around that we can actually put in came from that will have all that have an electric power view in their shop, so we can power, it hydraulic machines.

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Then you consider it small rotation of the linear. Axis, though, is it the river and.

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Tons force on the actual spoon- oh it's gonna trail it with more than a thousand actually my entrance. Thank.

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You for every axis.

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I suppose is rotational or something yeah I haven't.

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Done this for a 1 inch but for 2 inch, I looked at them, yeah.

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I kept you stuck in fusion actly to determine the yeah.

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Oh yeah, if you want to take it on actually put some number do what you're saying they'll be awesome, because that.

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Way we were actually doing it. We could say: oh well, our calculations over as we're getting this in practice. So then I'll get more insight in a couple more days in the workshop, dual will cover some basic circuits with that chain. So, like my father, Kapaun method, plus the this is the Hakurei motor. This is.

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A PLA that gets like so many watts or so, but that's awesome, and besides that you have other options like what else can you mounts to one-inch Universal axis? We can mount ahead so another torch Cinci torch table, but not a mother's here. So as long as you shield, the axis from satyr just turn that on you can be doing three dimensional crimping in the full metal. So let's well that'll, be things like sprockets for the tractors can definitely do something like and they betray that during the workout.

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But but that's cool because there's been people doing the you know nothing to make others on Maxie's to make a.

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National printer I haven't really seen a lot of people doing that outside of just for the purposes. I think the last thing you can do is we're actually use it for very practical for, like the sockets, which right now torch or well, but it there's a lot of lurching and well being involved because you still have to put a hub on sprocket, so they can't do.

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Then three-dimensional printing, like probably get good enough to mat, shape enough, so we might find them that actually be workable, like right off the three prime which we got shooting like three millimeter. My finish accuracy, like maybe sub millimeter above, be like a few millimeters couple. Millimeters could be usable for brute force. Applications like trap sprocket, sometimes like so we'll see what we can on that. Some of the other things work shall be definitely expending with gear ounces gear down such as attacking the house for Hyeok applications.

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You can a big printer, so we're planning I'm doing a big printer that actually uses the supervolcano nas, which we're does 20 pounds of of all deposition rate plastic flowers. You can make like large, colors large coupler. You can make larger your house, they can expel one of the practical limits from us what's worthwhile, losing through printing and do gear than applications.

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um You see what else to be said about this. The focus- and this is how Elena's different this time around there's a lot of times. We do dedicated both something okay here you go.

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We're gonna build traverse this time around we're saying that we've got all these tools and all these materials, and you can choose other machines like to get to an estate completion below T up and together on that using our storm building method, while collaborating so that the hard part is collaboration, but now it got in fast internet sites and we got that one gig fibre, so we can hopefully wrap it online collaboration, so just using blue box design design or like sharing a cab poplar when people download the CAD file upload it and upload it.

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So you can if the version has training while.

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On many many parts using part libraries that we do for just like example,.

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Or I see the library as well, you can bring down work whoa. It doesn't involve many people. You can break that down into. Like you see the part library you know say: you've got twelve parts for the printer just for the main main part of the printer. Well, you know kind of an individual file. They can be floating to the version history for each thing like, for example, you get this version history, final assembly, you know there's actually a whole bunch here, like I've, been basically saving versions and making notes on. What's in there.

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Let's take a look at all assembly, I've done quite a bit. So look at that string. It's about 33,000! You can be doing at their level of final assembly as you can visual parts and the sub-assembly, so you can in principle, isn't a simple matter. The repository.

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Was part lotteries.

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Lion fighting no way you can do a lot like here, you see a whole session. This is just the main printer body, but about here you see, this is all for the control control panel. So you know like ten more for control panel and there's a whole bunch like for the he died from. She got three parts. The shooters got like nine, so you.

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That working on the subway so explain how that works, because if we do the massive challenge.

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From wiki bees, the rooms are gonna, be such that you have to build upon over people's work.

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Piece together now, that's obviously hard for coordination spectrum but entrant impossible. It definitely achieve better results of people going off on all walkers of versions. Really they can be thinking of best from each version and is saying that in the master master think so so really focus on learning from each other and losing each other's parts. Because that way you can do way more than even if you have a large challenge and many teams way more than many teams could do on their own. So that's that strain.

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The Vincent do that and right now we look at actually dry 20 money as I'm applying to that. So, if you've got up, for example, on the.

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Incentive challenge page on an incentive chop page: look: you have the ball and state.

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There's the vertical hash so does a whole bunch of stuff. So take a look at the kind of challenge, critical path.

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Take a look at its blessing, so total path beyond Blackie.

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We have four in the morning before that. There's a lot of studio, one thing and that woman in the other challenge is to in a soul of a stock exchange, like instance, where you can upvote best technical contributors. We all stock exchange.

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From all yours out there, the best there's two top because of all things that stock exchange is that quite a lot is there. We want to try to start doing that for technical development with an aussie. So that's what other things do. Okay, so that kind of sound up I've got so on ste camp. Isn't a challenge on the ground.

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Here is working on up refinements on apprenticeships, or example, of a mounting bracket or the oxy sort of retire and have a fine, ass off sequence in this picture, there's more there sweetie print corner so for and then of this mounting bracket actually integrates of that three corners. It's got the same football set to redesign and those this looks all ripped up in the mascot, but the holes are right now in the right position, probably not a clean out his file later on metal.

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So this vector of the three simple in a straw picture last week but I do want to bring this up as a simplest assembly taken three little axis and mounted to each other to a flat platform so that cool I mean its simplest. Well can be some type of illness can be like a super low pressure because, of course, the things that the cantilever next this is gonna start drooping on you by people the design, actually it isn't or large, skillet over moving bad axis.

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You know that's not a desirable feature, as you can trend, Paul Calandra things on that, but for very bad things. Imagine this this flat mounted axis here being very long that could work, because now the reverse. Oddly on the base, so the s there will be very robust.

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She can this enough time printer design, which took me people Hank in like notified by vendors, there's other other models like this: the printer Boz the style, but you let extend the x-axis integration, because it's just a concept, but that, with the cool thing about this instance, is that it's a whole different.

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This is the simplest, so shows the kind of like simpler that you have in the system. Listen is suspended. Nothing to tell says you can owe me a system we come up. Another is the axis platform, so let me give that a nice triangulation or that must support on the bottom piece, were mount to the board, isn't busy nothing systematically how that works? That twosies.

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But you can just play around with all kinds of computer. Another thing that's good here is it's just like the minimalist anymore to be simple, but many more complex is for a simple machine, no get definitely to education, frantic.

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Yeah yeah I mean yeah now yeah.

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Like the cool thing.

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Just you just tell me about the concept of power of libraries. I just took Thea's a C's I, simply inserted them into the vacuum, and reward I took a extruder from other thing. So here's the parlor reason I was able to do this by simple. It took an hour.

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There's parts that involved that all example, his unit relaxes pieces, many hours that have gone into their details, but have that right. So you can.

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Do and I think I mentioned this last time, so I think I'm gonna stay here and continue.

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Her part on rugged.

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Yeah yeah, so I've been trying to our con getting a fusion made for fusion there. Sorry I can make using tricks T. It will allow me to do the Kemper and process a little mark activity consultative gay bill, her hope in psychology. He was there in summer 2014, oh yeah. um It sees dr.

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nari so that helps a lot and I contacted some personal developers just but I'll wear, that's gonna, get back to me in from the US and say I happen to make them over time, but would be nice if somebody was like Emerson, that's off to our engineer.

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But now it is it's coming. It's just a barrier that it I'm working on, because I know. Maybe, if I had peace and lots of my mouth still take long time to get done so gonna budget along though yeah.

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No, the best best make asymptotic.

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From accounting, I mean that's what that that's respiratory.

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They're gonna last a discussion.

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What is really only one that gets to a factory? Well, there's two yeah: everyone is silicon, sorry, Cal silica bonded materials and those they're interesting, but they're kind of the Navi come we used it's like pretty hard to find any trace on them, so I think I, calcium, aluminates,.

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It's pretty good up.

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Take that with a look at all that yeah.

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They have roughly, sadly on that tape, problem with which is the kind of multiple material which is hood for steel cutting, and it's really only goes to there's cotton, eliminating that tended a colloidal bonded material, because.

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There's only two binders.

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Or better stand up to the temperature involved of this kasi late, Samantha, mystical, Idol, stuff collide of silicon oil, zirconia colloidal titania, the different collides can be used yeah they all they gel at some points to live out, gelling and then opt evaporator, meaning where so. You don't get like very proud Asian. My poor. This line right hmm very interesting girls, so yeah.

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All right sounds good, no, what's gator'll doing is he uh somewhere in our season is warmer now his.

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He's been working and I sell projects. Yes, there's.

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Home it RV.

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Early, isn't that yeah use. He were tooth on shape. A lot uses on shape for the hall stuff. Yeah wasn't exactly clear what he does her job, but he definitely enjoyed its kind of job.

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Yeah China result work of the cat for the still kind of just done it. You know, licinia to frame her and yeah. I was just looking at your.

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Head earlier on,.

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The co-operative Suffolk users probably need to talk with that. Oh just look here: cat files. They will restate it because I'm in the gun making her changes. That's why I hit four more sellable of Mabley in the sizer framer. You know ten yeah for the predicate friend I'm working on and so I didn't hardly.

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Thought about what you're doing with.

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It but what I saw before so, let's ease of return things I'd already intended to fix it. I mean obviously the three dependents. So we can make all the versions and.

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It's appointed probably good figure. What the what the made design that it all inclusive versions all supported. So it's taken about named slots on that's because I think. If the there may be some pieces, we're scaling up the tube style. It might need to be instantly different position.

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Thankfully you can find many as you want just kind of rods life after that class. That can determine. Is this Sun on that side, but it's possible: let's make it so that it will Mountain their positions but then uh connect the assembly may be a little more complicated busier to make sure you get correct. Well, not if there's there's, you know a little bit of variation in the position, but obviously I'm, not a Steffes and that I accuracy, I she's efficient to that just til I fall because they a little off the bomb side.

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No, it's already had a lining up with the carriage.

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Never they were two brackets opposing each other. They were off from one another, so I redid after that I see you're, also using the bracket for a different matter and I had the other corner I. Could he look like in the race it had four nice. You know.

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One even used watt to Wayne and then X to Y, so.

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Are you pledged just printing a few verses about.

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A data or actually right now, the way I have it.

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One of them is saying: I'm gonna be as dependent clean and the Y 1 watt to and that X&Y didn't see the 1.1 percent error that the two holes are symmetric, so that this can go on the way one, and why do if you have nipples and dip locations nearer and it won't work.

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So yeah I just wondered the whole size repair or slot shaped holes instead of just bolt holes that will they show that about on me uh yeah. Let's even remind the care.

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When you're doing.

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I guess the closer but they're all the same hole sizes that the.

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Difference as a pole with that, no all the same. It's it's once again. All is six million currently we're using two balls size, 18 millimeter and a meter long so like to see that button. There is long, that's so far sufficient.

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Okay, they're all the same diameter yeah because they go through the universal access points. Oh should probably be able to get it to one art, maybe only that hmm like yeah as long as Paul, like it the hole for the wires. You know that's fine.

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For the other, so yeah I guess slot or I'm all shaped. Oh, uh um let's see pretty protesting of that new disassembly.

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Dinner. Alright, so you.

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Printed, those boy bracket, it's there right, okay, yeah.

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I noticed you had that thicker yeah I. Guess it prints, because.

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It just it probably just print.

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Sports hasn't done, which doesn't really matter under.

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Around the balls was that.

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On so he's here printed on that face the small place, I'm standing the alley.

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Not a problem, there's no support those are just quarter inch, holes, so print and cut base, and then just vertical and the holes they call it well.

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Detail it goes to the corner, and this is the long fault the short day two millimeter is just a little too short, you can probably eat the 20, but the 80 millimeters is exactly the width of that universal access, so this doesn't prove.

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Out anniversary losses, so you don't want to make it more than 18 so.

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That's why the right now for 18 is that.

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Justice and then we need a 30s for long things like, for example, Mountie 1x to the other. The next one at a 90 degree angle like this to white, for example, like I, can pull through these bolts. Essentially I can hold her in 3 DS, where we go through these bolts into the internal up catchers of the.

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Yeah, it's the asymmetry you're about hiss, there's a reason. You've got two holes.

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On one side and a slot on the other is that yeah, so Susan I feel initially holes were there and when a hole was there holes, work or a little bit of frame but never used as the location. So therefore, this wants to be exactly on the bottom.

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Now that may, if you flip it around the hunt, eighty degrees can go on the other side. A niche mirror image is not the same as 180 degree flip. So this this here could be still round ball, but I gave a little bit room the case. Look we want to get. This is still thought of thinking, so I want the hole like this is like right on the edge there. So I want it to I'll, have a slit, so I could put the hole in applying just a little bit more to the right. Yeah.

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Yeah so I'm gonna to make more Universal wonder if we'd make up l-shaped slot hole in there. I don't know, maybe maybe there's it look like there's a lot different places.

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Oh wait: Uncle Bob. This is the way I've been born in as many concurrent variations.

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That's under that is have a purpose and then, when a purpose is clear and that danger so once you have a need for that. Therefore, this thing will have more information and it will be more more robust from different juices. But then again you don't have put a bumper uses in there that under you, so you want to go Leon.

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Yeah yeah I just try think if we can get closer to just water, a few parts that are printed and you.

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You know, but I mean it's not to print different versions, yeah purposes either you.

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Know here we're doing well, yeah. You look at this picture right here. There's three parts: there's the motor part carriage, happies corner and then the bracket. That's all there is for 3d printing investment yeah, so five five parts plus to a stop.

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Yeah in general, I, like the overhead access that can access outside, you think, is more ruined I, think that makes sense for the pipe style frame. It definitely adds more heart out, obviously, but I think I've got that the x-axis, the PVC pretty good it Hill. Now those brackets I get the holes in the right place. It'll.

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It looks pretty good and I kind of went on to try to figure out how to do the well Edie mounting, actually because it does have to be just like it has to be raised up quite a bit from autumn kinda to reach the recruiter.

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Up there right.

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Get some engine 1/2 I was measuring on that so I had you.

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That nice, you, you have much.

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Plastic question there, for that cannot.

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But I just don't have anything.

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You don't have anything static on it.

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So um that's how I did it help for the next version? If you look at the bed, the bed is got gonna, be it's gonna have a stand up because it's an insulated he's got its own height. So if we go to 1904, so the veterans got height to it, it's one and a Half Men is already.

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Let's take a look at he'd, been here yeah, it's the same here! Well, it's a different intent of this old one. So when things fall sleeping better, that's sort of actually larger than 8 inches, we can print down an incredible. This isn't to hide. There's one and a half inches. That's think that which holds the selections on the put the rock realization I said: probably get 30 to 60 percent energy savings on the pad.

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Yeah, that's 3d printable, so yeah, that's a miss. Okay, I, don't know, see only yeah I'm the troops or frame I guess that inches.

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The peace out friend I figured keeping it let's lower Pike Countians employee, you know probably better to start with, but I said.

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Yeah I mean you don't mean for the first print, don't worry about the insulators bad I would say just yeah penguins ring, but yeah I do like the idea of that. I must say just dense eyes, so this control panel, the new thing on that is it snaps, and so it's a very good yeah.

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I saw the control panel worth it that does look nice having a more modular yeah, yeah 3d printed Chris for that, yes, miss, yeah, I, think pretty close on Monday assembly forgot to use the universal parts as much as I can to get that bad hide out and see how that reaches I. Think wow, that's fun, I! Guess his house.

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Look in the Hat and fit into.

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Check what the extruder was in those designs- cuz I was looking at here or recent Cadiz ons. So that's it. That's a more modern extruder model. Yeah yeah I just want.

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A simple light: the patent they're all- but that's you know there- isn't as much the printers also yeah.

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Second, skirt interprets out someone that just to see I noticed that basically look like you just put it the height of it and the rack and all that it look like it was to get the hot end above the frame in case there's any issues with that that was on purpose and that that's part of the distance to the yeah too bad. So I didn't want to change those most practice.

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Too much as those I figured.

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That was part of the designer.

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The height to get the extruder up, battleframe I mean in the case under cat. Your and my guess that to frame I know if it comes closer.

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That I haven't.

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Even put in the ends ups, those new in stop clips yet, but the distance of course, stuff hit III degree work that so I could move things around and see where everything actually stops, and things like that. So.

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One of the extruder know what it is off the fond I guess it's, the tiny narrow is there's the simple honor. That's why I sent you that email the other day about the digital parts that you have right right, figure out what that extruder is okay,.

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To check measurements on how that well,.

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Yeah, the one that you want will have this where actually I want to build this out. G William has come he's been building this things. Look simple street.

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You've seen this imposter at the John Nike.

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Oh, let's see you guys hear me.

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My screen is an update on my edits, my okay.

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Perfect, probably.

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It's changeable.

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Anything you can probably yeah. You can probably go to up 2.8 if you print very, very slowly but yeah. The point for is, and of course you can use larger muscles, but you're gonna get you can put it to that, but he'd still be welcome there or even plot this on to you can pass supervolcano lined up today. So it's the matter of yeah how much power we give them to heater block because you've got a solid meter in there with me. Well he's in minutes. This is one point.

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Seven five millimeter come in with dry, so unless you go to something about like planetary gear, down a little Deborah motor like misty cap, oh you gotta do a little little you're. Not if you wanted to three millimeter filament, but.

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That's not the feet press trigger and that would go well with decent.

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Know, I guess this she would changing. You know said part on those along.

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With it yeah no, her head access, I suppose have changed the actual nozzle and hot in it yeah then, you've got to adjust bed height to to match that somehow, which I guess is pretty W, just really print new cards, but.

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Jamot really looks like I just know so: I just downloaded this, but I notice, I didn't put that other updated file on my key. Do that? That's this? What's on the wiki right now, but yeah you're right also here was Jewish a name. This is a moment that the X and call this one.

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Actually, how do you call that, typically in the person figure, this is one like Rousseau configuration. This is called a critical, but the x-axis said you want it to be vertical because, yes, it's mounted flat against this one yeah not being stable, yeah.

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Well, yeah, yes, no like, even if you do not miss kinzey, still want to put it the way you suggested, because I mean it's just more simple.

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Early proof shows are kind of that way too. I guess that's right.

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At verse, seven this exercise vertical. It's.

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Yeah I'm you to get the deals of what how it would with 12 twist on in our show. You got presume, there's some simulations because it's kind of hard to figure that.

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In practice, like the way that says, you're gonna stack multiple ones, not too many multiples, but can definitely like one octave back to get stronger a little bit a little. Then again you know you're. You are trading off and beating okay. Now you have another second axis which is different on okay, say you know: SIL accidents, a larger lot sizes.

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Arise, if you have to us more every time to of smaller one will take longer.

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So a tree had many nice apples all right. Let's make sure, there's redundancy here, you're building that you'll notice, that what axis is easier than two in practice, just their scale and purposes so yeah a, but you can do if just our limit to all these parts. I, like your use case you, gentlemen, all miss Morris and just stressed a candle doubling up for the wash of these X's to or age. Of course, it's gonna get.

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It becomes an accounting problem. The time okay.

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Anything else yeah.

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What the hoop style Ranma you were mentioned: stacking yeah I was thinking earlier that have not excessive x-axis kind of outside on top the volume inside, but it's almost good make smaller.

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That might be stiffer yet, and you know I, don't know how formats those would be, but that might be stackable or you know, on some question for Moulton mall printers mmhmm yeah stiff enough for the speeds. Wanna operate a Mac yeah.

A

Yeah there's a lot of her I mean just a ton of varieties. We can be talking about, so it's it's important just to get that screens with one and then that emerge kind of. Naturally, you versus hey. We can do this, that's really nicely. So what kind of learning comes from yeah see how it works? The pockets work, which is saying yes, when you use a solar form, is the over slow axis, allows you to use a small I am wall getting the same. So that's about that.

A

You can horse ability because the frame is smaller and wobbles. Yeah.

G

I assume the concept of stacking.

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Harder because you're operating a bunch of printers at once and it's gonna, be print vibration issues and probably when I try to yeah have good free.

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Documentary about my my working document.

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The pictures, yeah I, keep miniature format. There's an edit link on the left side of screen. I need to format it some kind. How.

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To do that better.

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I need to figure formatting.

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Think that a write, some HTML HTML on that would figure I.

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Yeah I posted for her notes and and taking measurements and stuff. So I can remember what yeah, since I can't remember from one day to the next or something you know, yeah.

A

That's useful because she helps you build on what you have for us. I think that Google Docs are convenient. That's a really good fashion. Yeah.

G

Yeah, a lot of the corporate stuff is sensitive to any.

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Of the remote collaboration and I only live.

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A few people that are you love it yeah most. So it's the software because we'll remote so yeah the software is an open circle operative. Our.

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Good luck seems to be the best one of the easier things for that so far, yeah.

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No I think that's from now: I'm I'm gonna try to work a little quicker on, uh given that more thorough I think on the on the people. Y'all have more time, I, think and next month, so so move a little quicker on that try to get something actually built.

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Are you soon good it's nice to have something and hope? Let's get some maturity.

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Testing to it necessary we could to get a PC and maybe just test certain uh also.

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Positioning of the clamps inside so yeah I think I think that has to be the printed ones. Yeah.

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My heart suckers in here those.

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Corners I think those are okay as far as no other.

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Contestant, they think they're long enough and strong enough and everything so, though I think they're fennel no.

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I'm just think I put them on the inside as opposed to the brackets being outside.

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The expert on the inside of the Harwich yeah yeah yeah- that's yeah I. It does not like that, though, keep trying to kill Rob like the same mm-hm and that's how it ends up. Yeah yeah yeah between the carriage so yeah.

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What I was talking about Oh Justin piece.

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Extra yeah you.

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Have the and piece so.

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To stay out that.

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Actually, a lot of it I knows is assembly and making me assembling easier Kista. It look like the.

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Documentation before the rod, I was.

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Kind of important to being used to align things better.

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You you're, not gonna, spend the time on that or you don't you want that to be something that you don't need to spend a lot of time on.

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Piece but it's.

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More than once opinion, okay is there uh let's it's a new meter or so yeah some documentation rid of that somewhat as well yeah. So.

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Evans up Neeson nice to see on your lot or, let's say, I'm, a 1902 cuz. That's the first place.

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But there's gotta be a note there, so return enter proper who'd be under y axis. So let's look at working doc. I wouldn't look first at a working doc.

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No I was listening a lot too much about it, but I said change lies that we've been taught it hello. Parallel on the y-axis.

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Let's see if we I can click on the hunter itself. Does that pay of anything no yeah I? Don't it's not going to sway me you build it like you might get, maybe just a bad yeah it'll.

G

The process for really not gonna manual at some point, yeah yeah.

A

They're even took pictures of 19 for morning tea. No now just got these ones and arts without a final picture. Here. Do that.

A

Yeah, okay, sound good, so you get that document up there, but it's a CAD, so I think about it. What's going on, okay I mentioned one of the meetings like minded explained in the meeting, but actually a thing to do be to here's an explanation, because I did not reward the meeting, but I did go through a detailed exposition off of that when I was trying to file oh, so we can do it point to clip of the YouTube recording.

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Probably in a previous meeting recording the audio has been kind of rough. Sometimes I didn't put those pourings. Those recordings are still a little the tip-in I to whatever that software is.

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Actually got the home computer and the same things happening in.

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Software I had some of that on mine when I was recording and I think well. Better way is OBS, but I've been in different uses to my other settings, and you know if you changed things that gets a look into Z but OBS for some reason, I think it did work in a there's, a more popular recording and streaming.

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Okay, maybe yes.

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It's documented.

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It's a little more complicated, but it I figured it out and I had some recordings that worked well.

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As long as I have to setting.

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The same everything and.

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Mm-Hmm, the thought of you know sit Amanda burger, doesn't a little confusing yeah.

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Dude s cuz, the OBS is much more much popular in which a more powerful just right to that yeah, that's a and so that maybe maybe for next meeting or such okay sounds good. Okay, so that's kind of Eric. Do you have any comments? Yes,.

F

So I've been getting ready to work on the arrow, Titanic shooter, so I don't really want to obtain the y-axis. So yes so uh modify the lately. So it has to the bracket right on it.

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So I think one just build it from from scratch, and cat should be pretty simple.

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Question are you saying.

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It keep Max's vertical.

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Right, that's not your point. Yeah yeah.

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Wondering so I just.

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Night mess you want to like slide um so having any kind of just plastic protrude, there's some of those boss.

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Introduced plate that I found that by the idea for the for diagnosed, because I think captive all right.

A

Not sure what what's your friend I think I I'll mention is when design make sure the magnets are away from the fans cuz. You have seen that the print cooling fan unit. You know that issue. The magnets actually met with Adam and Justin. Well, so yeah.

F

So what did he a good idea, bad idea, instead of having minutes of reposition having some plastic kind of projector? No.

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But the sort of Khorsandi hole with add stability ruler or that that's it not.

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As long as the.

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Parts our friend.

A

And well like you can even have like of it when you think about how love blocks together, yeah just having that Magnus. So if you are printing ice slide, three millimeters per second, that your extruders, a walk, so I mean I. Have you know five minutes at least six?

A

Okay? The blood is there like even like what I think would be adequate, but they kept me little parallel to each other there, if they're, slightly evens align better than that actually watch face-to-face, then that connect calls much weaker. So just just as long as you get a good gonna have a cold, make sure I get that yeah.

F

Yeah so lie on me familiar with free cat, there's a great, so I was having a little bit of trouble doing the modification, so I will just be kind of a good practice to try to build that yeah.

A

Next month, build it from scratch, that's a good exercise, because I'm gonna sing. If you see, for example, my angle right here thing is butcher, I went I'd, try to edit it, and so all painters gotta have to keep link gonna try to push. You should do some by step. In order for you to understand, you, then so sure that's not bad. Nothing.

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Time the engineering, your file, so you start from scratch too,.

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So that's what I'll be working on for the hard other stuff. Yeah I got a contact with some people involved and, let's hope the Fuji is product shy. It's trying to open source kind of genetic material. So that's I, know my alley and a lot of the stuff. You know I've been thinking about. So that's a kind of interesting Kent gentle work.

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We try and do something that stuff and I'd date you this stuff comes long.

A

Yeah we gene and then provide their games and I gotta say because part of that matters is the idea of kind of Spencer accountability, because geez horses gonna get out there, but the more you had a privatize than the spread worse. It can have tension, I get in effect, so yeah. Definitely, transparency is good.

A

F

Patents and the kind of like institutional or ship a lot of stuff is uh kind of a major obstacle, for you know: laws off. Let people who try to do yeah.

A

Definite frontier 300, because what's in right now, it's like an Ursula victus, lucky barking admitting stuff they are in a wad yeah. It's crazy, yeah.

F

It's not a good situation.

A

It's insane yeah, that's how the world works, I know so so, where people get involved for transplant, one of you more people.

D

Know better is Trish's so.

F

And then I'm, the wiki just kind of off and on like you, we're on openwetware, wiki and I, have my site, so I can have them links to my logs yeah I'm publishing stuff. But it's some dozen.

D

Different places yeah I like to you know, if you do work, someone.

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F

So that's what's been going on here and you have some parts that extra hits the fan and sensor aim and waiting for the the main Titan arrow stuff, yeah yeah.

A

Sounds good: okay, thanks! Thanks for the update, so yeah well continued progress and that's it for the meeting and what else.

C

um Sorry, this look ahead up future in this thing, um so it says on the home page the tip pay position and you're supposed to have all gone to the meeting to find out more I. Don't know if I miss that dreamers ten minutes or something. Oh did you say anything? Oh.

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No converse Akagi homepage this.

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Offering a one-year.

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It's like coming up.

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Token up the fellowship all right that.

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We call it that.

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Was from from last year, what.

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2018 is that continuing.

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This year,.

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As well, right I mean it's not update, no.

A

We're not doing the auto-ship this year, there's still one other lesson ahead of us. There's still we couldn't make it work. You know that random workshops and people weren't signing up yeah you're still getting the technology Vicki.

C

Well, why didn't you go tomato cage already? Yes, yeah! That's a.

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C

Right, it doesn't eat canary and still still there, since we are having a one-year lumpy pillow yeah.

A

Those last year and the people that we had yeah.

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Teaching us so we got to improve, how we teach them and the products.

A

So these family finances it's get it to thing. I mean that from 99 percent five hundred percents a lot more to.

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C

It's not even the early to think about next year, like you're, saying maybe of the summer design type stuff going on again next year, like really more people, Frank.

A

Yeah I think well right now we're just a nine-day thing. This year last year, we're looking at more probably something to more than three months, so just just get it longer and longer and get it stable stabilized, but I think.

E

It could be music, do.

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Something that, like.

C

Like that's like a great thing that happening, there's not what happened. Yeah.

A

I mean at the same time we're making any money on it or anything. So it's it's like you got to think out. Sustainability was there actually a model that that's sustainable behind that so I mean at that time wasn't ly sustainable. We had and we're still kind of lighting on money that we hidden from the foundation in the back from 2013, so I mean that's part of the deal. You got to offer a good program and check for it somewhere.

A

The reference gotta happen we're going at the thing of bootstrap funding where it's like I ain't gonna build a foundation all that Metheny unstable, so forward enterprises a way to.

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Enterprises I mean this, is the people are making enterprises I.

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Kind of crush or.

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Something it's somebody how many people, through their Colton stuff costs on Tecla him, and there was like so many people. There wasn't no essential. We didn't stay connected yeah.

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I mean there's a lot. People that come through. You know a lot. People are, you know, there's dudes depends yeah, it can work here, just make it happen. All of a sudden it takes to like.

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Some of us thought that you want right.

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A bunch of people to work together and make it laughs, I.

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Think there's so much potential worth something such ecology. Think if stuff.

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Gets done, crap.

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I find it struck me in like when people see results on the facebook pages and stop I'll start.

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Way, absolutely in my overall in really no, not quite I mean it's an exaggeration. If it seems like it's not that far off cuz I do.

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Donate when they absolutely I think I think there's gonna be a major of spite and connectivity of the sent up challenge. So, okay, that's gonna, be huge.

C

It does seem to work, pretty I'll do like crowdsourcing and it.

A

Does look like we did Kickstarter twice by sixty five thousand first time. The second time.

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C

Like if there's full-on site putting in late hours, they didn't do it like, it seems like just put them together. I think you got people mostly volunteer when we drink money, then I sort of did it out.

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Be away, look it up. It's just trying.

A

To make work out so yeah trying to solve that. Okay.

A

Now, what's what's the best thing to say about this whole topic, I still say that good old Enterprise, where, for us, the mission is that we develop enterprise and the many people can you know only on this. So as soon as we get the revenue models, they believed on being three printers NASA, that's a big cash all right, so just taken up the truck to the finish line, Sentinel under butter on that yes, it's not a new concept or anything. It's just executions, the river and step testing it yeah.

A

But the thing is it's like yeah. That depends. So that's that's there we go if you don't think about selling dependence in the advantage disadvantages to each path, how to do it? Luckily, it's, like you know, as you see, the history of Aussie had a major major spike, oven.

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Put on a map of interest sparked and all that.

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C

You talk about bootstrapping, understand, like suppose, you get people down art like a new budget people basically paid in there. You got a letting their gonna live a nice normal environment from there cuz it's kind of a nice round, players yeah, but they have to be there that day for the fuel and food anything right, but then that's where they new projects that can we do them across London excels. You do something! That's like a little cart. You know these all project but itself project. If it's in parallel.

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Source ecology and then in solid afterwards, yeah.

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Top it is people.

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Have to pay to.

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Munich students actually paid company there for this thing,.

C

You're thankful think like so that.

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Way, you don't have much.

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You don't you touch me bootstrap it with minimal funny.

C

People I'm pretty sure you have a project and this facility that you can live in every year. This enormous number of pupils go, they just have two degrees, anything and there's wasted in doing white stuff. I got they don't want me in the city or they don't they get a silver top person like it is.

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Wiping us be much.

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Experience and.

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It was a Sarah being caught. I teach her the thing, because if you make it and work out where they supposed to learn, hang with experience, then that cannot get it all nice and then to pay more. But it's an intensity shorter. But if it's like people are to work on a project and bring in their own funding on the firm, you know I told estate developer. We have to pick.

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The golf on the golf course.

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Or project based how to be very interesting, it can be genocide. Oh you just got a space I'm, not sure how long were keep that's. What.

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They have in structure.

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Need some SAP on sites on the bottom, so.

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Okay, so you're asking for yes sit down and start writing down exactly what you're describing put the numbers to that, such as okay. This is the venue model. There's not much. People are paying. This is your sings, so much described as much as you can and you got mark that on there, but it starts with a plan.

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It takes an execution so because.

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I was here at all: let.

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Key Peter being offload on to people hood there, a lot of the rotor bringing in on me, and there else does there actually talk to people in cases like they've, got four-year degrees and like bring growing up disappointing. You know yeah.

A

Well, I agree with you, but but I mean one of the challenges you run into they're the people that know how yet money like that they are typically probably doing it themselves, see that's what this that.

C

I think there's a large contingent, that's not because they don't have a facility and they don't have like I, like your capital, is the facility. So that way.

A

The facility house now the next thing is okay. What exactly are people trying to do? Cuz I mean you think about it. That's exactly what he did say: I get twenty ten eleven twelve whole bunch of people. It doesn't work out well in.

C

A

Because it takes real skill for somebody to get people to bring money and we had a guy who react fire, that's just something for raising and I was spending more pay, and then he so it's like participe all skill and the surprising thing that we've learned over the years is that we have question can and those people chief end up finding out that a lot of people that you have those are working themselves and that's that's a lot of surprises because you just don't have a lot of people that can do that and to be the kind of people that wanted, but that so yeah it's a challenge.

A

It's a challenge of how skilled people, law and I can tell me how that if you get it, if you get a four-year degree in a school, that's even I kind of owe their liability, even because you definitely don't get to think in an entrepreneurial way. Let's say: there's real challenges to have what you get once, compared to being like really useful and everywhere else. That's one of the challenges in the problem with it's like the good people to find to come here. It's it's not that easy so, but.

C

I think one of the things took you like you, take a long term, one of the strengths to go out there. You need to go long term view, but to acuity you've both been missing. Yes,.

A

Maybe I think you know I think we're seeing that we're seeing that over the you know, workshops and humanities immersion camps, yeah people are waiting to show up. So we're saying that let's do that and let's look more so we're going just a little bit this year only because there's two main things happening, and that is one and write the book on book.

A

Thank you. Have this amazing. This challenge is gonna, be big that that's gonna be a huge thing where we're saying here's other resources to coordinate a whole bunch people not just to get some credit development, but a real commercial, great product, so that soon as it's more different than what we've been talking about all the time the same. This is an explicit, been again a bird, the resources that it takes do that to make it happen. So some of that, why is that important?

A

Because nobody to date has shown that the open district and enterprise can work. So we need to show that either very clear, open and people that people say. Oh well, this enough that actually walks in the title I'll bring that you have better products because, as you know, we talk about a lot, but so far you know week operate yeah.

A

There never been some B's, but no we got a long way to go still right, so we it the point: is it takes so much effort to get to them? That's why everybody says all can do that in one session. I have a big ass, wonder no, you gotta have your VC capital to do it.

A

Cuz it just takes so much more leaves that well we're so fine that, but you guys show a great example where we break that purse right now, because nobody believes anything awesome, one of the things that people believe in they could even collaborate make sure. There's not again. It's.

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At them, yes, oh look at the hero, a platform with that constant. Is this a big reward? You have to expand it because it's Vincent of this monetary.

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You know something that's extraordinary now, if you look at so amazing stuff kind of it, yeah.

C

Shake it apart, a little bit like exact study.

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C

A lot of Catholic do that.

A

That's right! That's right! So we're saying to the world yeah we're going to that face so.

C

What's up what's challenge like it's um I.

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Think if that doesn't work out like about announcing, like suppose it does, the coronation I would still like I. Don't tell you did two things: I'm just floating the.

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C

um But like just say, okay, this summer, we're gonna go for three months to do this, 3d pretty cordless drill. That's the big project, for this are ya. Everybody I'm you're, gonna pay you're. On the way, though, and if we sent parts then we're gonna be out money and the plan is to sell and.

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What happened on how so missing water sighs yeah can do that we may be able to do for something relatively soon or something already focused. But yes, tomorrow we're going to go forever. Okay, let's have a bunch people that we invite, or some run this summer extreme design boat and go at it and see what some pet since he's a model, could could actually work. It could be made into a regular, bring thing and then it'd, be evolving. Okay, now succeeded in doing that for a mom for three months, how it were messed up.

A

Anybody to accept people the whole time yeah, because.

C

It's the to its approach to trying to get people climbing over the Internet teams comes that regime. Work on I can come and very people have access to anything yeah, but.

A

You have to get very clear or what's what's the bottom line, the bottom max product, so the bottom line is that takes so much effort to do something together and how would I argue that the thing that prove that stuff I'm happy is not it's human Walter. Are you saying at all just know we can actually just nice people together. It's an academic work out all from for the first of all, that's much more complicated and with a bunch of people and things like that.

A

But the second thing is the missing liquid lily mindset of people. So first thing that has to happen is people have to believe it's such a. Such opposition is even possible and I can make this argument that nobody means I, don't know today, because one is doing it right, so yeah I would venture to say that the biggest block is that people do not see the possibility that it's feasible and therefore they're, not even step up to that gay.

A

So some some of this body has to pay the way, or that say: oh now, it's possible just like you know, in the force first guy broke the river, the four-minute mile, then I hope out of people visit uh next year. That's the same thing, yeah sure that it doable and then people are doing- that's I think that's kind of people work. It's just really. Let me have blocks within our.

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A

Because you can I think you make it both ways. Of course, the the physical thing is no, that's that cool to can do some really tangible things more leave it I. Don't think! That's a good for that, but.

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Like won't do people here for the summer after summer, ok.

C

Bike firm for spiritual for the enough virtual child, the a vibration people are sure I. Can they make their work up stuff how to printer, and they have to have time to use it exact all divided into clever any well. That's.

A

That Raikou challenge, that's that's a market! Thank you and you.

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Centers ever Packers business also shows the corners drug, because it's one of those things that's actually executable- will have their just any printers and they about us to forget so so there's actually some poetry and I might like point to another project. I, don't I mean we kind of thinking about, but I don't think it's a multi-billion dollar book. It's like up to billion dollar market. It's small and tiny, maybe I, use that I can't skills out. That's a good of the book. Then it opens versatile I.

A

So we think that's kind of like the right right thing and it leverages singing pretty anxious he or so.

A

But something has to be paying work, cuz cuz. Actually you know to ensure that the 3d printers always shown that open source absolutely box, just like the Nexus, was all the baby bedding today is pretty much based on open-source RepRap project, but nobody really know. What is that and a lot of that cell turn? It so I mean it's tribute in some way, but it's it's kind of centralizing. Another present a little bit crew suck make an 8oz and pressures that trying to work is you can call big corporation.

A

It's the people, then, where the hard core episode got a little guy now they're. Turning against is a lot of you. Guys stuff is somewhat palatable, but it's and of course, it's open up a whole new realm of opportunity for a lot of people bring ourselves because we have those designs and I like to work wolf and stuff like. But people are not really nice saying how only because the culture like there's a lot of it.

A

We've done this and not cooperation with the reflects a lot of like stuff being made on public I can point using detail. If you study up like right hand like nobody thing, except optimize, three million rubber string over yes, that we've been doing like this for ten years right about to make. Yet you know, there's a lot of apps, because nobody covering fast and furious forward. There is, you know all the source or that so many people to make the printers. But it's not it's not supposed to, because now, but only companies pretty much.

A

So, anyway, uh okay, so mr. party were actually, unfortunately, these anybody believe it's pretty much. It's MakerBot.

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The general that happened it is now there is no business model pro parlor. It's a big patrol battle, minigame salt.

C

Okay, well, okay, that's all! And.

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Yeah, it's just.

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Little longer than we thought it said, yeah.

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So you can tell you, will see.

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Like I think the the colors will chat, I think will be a remarkable example that.

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C

With different people and how well coordinated they are it's not just I mean it can be done to some degree, but it's.

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Not easy to call it a say: a thousand wishes yeah I.

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Know you, you definitely get a lot of points but yeah.

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Yeah and that's I, that's quite a little. So good luck is, he think about the button but looks platform they actually allowing a man to fund raise the cash crops.

A

A person from North money and raise and offer and send it so that the mob labor comes into an incentive Township. It's typically that say the buyers, one no yeah amount of money that actually is probably a hundred million. So basically people are able to work alike. That's very moving!

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Right but that's that's not where the structuralist structure that holidays myself a challenge is that any button I'll start with business, of which we worked out all marketing.

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The fact that we're actually got connected to the box floors and about them the best Egyptian channels or this kind of softly, so so the department is the enterprise development and it's not technology development. It's been that I've never seen anywhere else, but.

C

Okay, well, I hope works, but I'm saying work. It's like there's a certain student groundedness and it's kind of a the turtle approach. Instead of the hair approach with do stuff on site with the real team, you know seems kind of a little more dependable, but I mean well I, wasn't really much sacrificing yeah.

A

Yeah I mean doesn't mean we're not going nowhere, so so definitely we're gonna spawn this sunshine. As far as on-site I mean we're we're looking at doing the back pictures, I, don't.

C

See an expert about this yep all.

A

Right: well, thanks everybody a little extend discussion at the end, but yeah thanks.

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A

Yeah well, in one thing to stage two summed it up: that's like a lot of people. Ask me this question I like watching that.

C

This there was stuff popping to build upon. It is, although it's not like drinking yeah, yeah,.

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C

Cuz, like you know, I've been a lot of places looking first stuff, and it turns out of its apology was the only thing that's really going well.

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Well, alright, okay, well.

A

Talk to y'all next.

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