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From YouTube: Landscape Design Webinar
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This is a recording of the Landscape Design Webinar: Integrating the Seed Eco-Home in a Regenerative Environment.
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A
You
can
see
the
schedule
webinars
on
the
OB
I
webinars
page
on
the
wiki
and
let's
move
forward
so
introduction
open,
building,
Institute
crowd-sourced
effort
to
make
affordable
ecological
housing
widely
replicable,
so
that
builds
upon
the
work
of
open
source
ecology
with
heavy
machine
building
up
to
our
beautiful
house,
build
like
2016.
This
is
October
build
of
the
CD
coke
eco,
home
and
I
kept
on
a
greenhouse
were
with
about
50
or
60
people.
We
were
able
to
build
the
house
in
five
days
and
then
a
greenhouse
in
another
five
days.
A
A
The
workshop
was
completed
so
now
we
discuss
what
happens
to
this
dirt
so
that
we
can
cover
it
with
lush
planted
plants
and
a
lush
landscape
that
can
need
very
many
different
needs
and
for
here
just
showing
the
overview
of
the
house
the
the
floor
plan,
which
includes
the
house
greenhouse
utility
room.
There's
you
see
another
element,
the
digester
back.
We
have
a
biogas
digester
back,
that's
going
to
be
installed
the
drainages
on
this
side.
A
Here
water
is
here
the
plans
for
the
future
actually
to
do
a
little
production
facility,
small
microfactory
attached
to
the
actual
house
for
things
like
3d,
printing,
some,
some
cnc
work
and
other
things
are
in
a
toolshed
and
barn
additions
on
top
of
that.
But
why
do
we
care
about
a
proper
landscape
plan?
Well,
it's
about
aesthetics,
health
and
function.
So
for
one
from
a
bit
part
for
myself.
A
As
a
user
of
this
tester
of
beta
tester
of
this,
this
house
is
the
productive
landscape,
food,
vegetables,
fruits,
fish,
eggs,
nuts,
mushrooms
herbs,
not
only
that,
but
energy
and
fuel
production.
So
for
one
we
have
PV
installed
on
a
house,
but
the
landscape
that
we
plant
around
could
focus
a
lot
on
caucus
fuel
wood
for
biomass,
pellets,
there's
also
a
facility
for
biogas
that
we
are
integrating
here.
Then
you
can
go
further
to
talk
about
things
like
oils.
The
rubber
bioplastic.
Well,
bioplastic
can
come
from
plants.
A
Rubber
can
come
from
things
like
dandelion
root,
resin
I
mean
that's
actually
been
shown
to
be
a
viable
rubber
crop
or
oils
expressed
oils
or
by
hydraulic
fluid.
Even
like
we
use
tractors
to
build
the
houses
with
bio,
hydraulic.
Fluid
could
be
made
from
as
simple
as
canola
oil
with
some
additives.
So
there's
all
these
crop
potentials
productivity
potentials
around
the
site,
and
not
only
that,
of
course,
erosion
control
is
a
big
deal
like
right
now,
with
all
the
bare
soil
on
a
site.
A
Here,
there's
definitely
erosion
that
that
can
be
happening,
so
that
needs
to
be
stabilized
as
well
as
micro,
climate
controls.
We
put
a
lot
of
water
in
the
area,
sheltered
and
treat
areas.
You
can
actually
affect
the
microclimate
to
be
several
degrees
different
than
what
the
baseline
climate
is.
So,
for
both
humidity
and
temperature,
with
things
like
wind
breaks
and
ponds
and
shelters,
then
what
our
retention?
That's
a
big
big
deal
and
creation,
so
we
can
trap
water
that
runs
off
the
site
into
ponds,
but
more
than
that
trees
are
the
thing
that
generate.
So.
A
Do
you
think
that
generates
water?
You
might
think
that
water
comes
from
the
sky,
but
where
does
it
come
from
before
it
reaches
the
sky?
Well,
a
lot
of
water
is
drawn
up
by
deep
roots
from
underground
and
cycled
back
up
into
the
atmosphere
and
that's
why,
when
you
lose
your
trees,
you
create
deserts
like
the
Sahara
Desert,
which
it
once
used
to
be
a
lush
for
florists.
That's
point
so
there's
water
issues
that
we
can
acknowledge
water
issues
in
a
deep
way
by
proper
landscaping
and
then
of
course,
recreation.
A
Health,
there's
nature,
we're
actually
considering
a
natural
pool
install
in
front
of
the
CD
go
home,
there's
aesthetics,
fresh
air,
also
a
healthy
microbiome,
the
microbes
that
live
around
you
I'll
talk
about
that,
a
little
more
so
for
a
one
acre
layout.
This
is
the
current
plan
and
we're
incorporating
the
house
the
natural
pool,
as
you
see
here,
our
water
source,
we're
probably
going
to
dig
another
big
pond
for
irrigation
up
on
the
northern
part,
we're
going
to
install
a
miracle
orchard.
That's
a
good
idea.
A
I'll
talk
about
these,
but
these
are
things
we're
considering
in
enough
forest.
These
are
two
to
specific
types
of
techniques
for
planting,
edible
landscapes,
I'll
talk
more
about
that,
but
that's
kind
of
the
layout
basically
take
the
house
and
plant
every
inch
of
it
with
useful
plants
around
the
house
and
water
retention
and
bio
tops.
So
when
you
start
to
select
the
plant
choices,
it's
primarily
plants
and
other
species,
mostly
plants,
some
animals
are
going
to
populate
this
land
with
us.
A
So
when
you,
when
you
look
at
plants,
there's
an
incredible
incredible
diversity
of
plants
and
you
really
have
to
focus
on
local
adaptation
because
the
thing
is
for
every
species,
there's
so
much
diversity
think
certain
things
work,
others
simply
won't,
and
you
can
either
work
with
nature
to
let
that
work
for
you
or
you
can
struggle
and
get
no
crop,
because
the
particular
species
is
is
not
adapted
like,
for
example,
like
then
Missouri
you
just
can't
do
Fuji
apple,
there's
an
example.
So
you
know
you'd
plant,
your
Fuji
apples.
A
In
your
surprise,
you
get
zero
crop
right
then,
but
then
you
can
plant
some
adapted
species
like
Jonah,
gold
or
Arkansas
black
and
you
get
heavy
crops.
So
it's
like
one
thing
simply
works
one
simply
doesn't
so
how
do
you
know
what
works
and
when
I
say
works?
I
don't
mean
just
grows
by
means
thrives.
That
means
it's
going
to
grow
like
a
weed.
There
are
some
things
that
do
that
to
just
totally
grow
and
you
can't
stop
them,
whereas
other
things
you
just
won't
get
them
to
grow
at
all.
A
So
you
can
look
at
farmers,
Mack
markets.
You
can
observe
what's
around
in
the
area.
I
mean
observation,
for
us
is
a
little
tough,
because
everywhere
around
us
are
corn
and
soy
fields,
corn
and
soybeans,
and
there's
hardly
anybody
that
has
a
work
working
garden
around
here.
So
it's
really
hard
to
observe,
typically
because
a
lot
of
diversity
has
been
depleted
and
things
like
us,
sustainability
garden
is
not
really
popular,
saying
around
the
big
Farmers
household
site.
A
It
starts
with
the
underground
and
invisible
tap
roots,
as
I
mentioned,
water
comes
to
the
the
water
cycle
starts
underground
when,
when
taproots
suck
water
out
from
underground
we're
underground,
there's
plenty
of
water
usually-
and
that's
that's-
how
there
is
that
that
otherwise
would
be
deserts
turn
into
lush
forest.
So
you
need
the
trees.
If
you
get
rid
of
the
trees,
you
get
rid
of
the
very
heavy
component
of
of
transpiration
of
plant
transpiration,
which
gets
the
water
into
the
atmosphere
so
nutrients
function.
A
Suction
is
another
major
function,
so
certain
plants
are
really
adapted
to
do
that.
Well,
such
as
comfrey
ground
cover
our
small
small
plants
that
cover
the
ground
so
think
of
it.
Instead
of
having
a
field
of
grass
think
about
a
hundred
different
species
that
you've
got
there
providing
various
useful
purposes
and
you
talk
about
shrubs
the
layer,
that's
above
the
ground,
layer
and
trees.
The
canopy
now
also
in
this
in
our
thinking
we're
including
fungus
mycelium.
A
A
They
eat
carbohydrates
in
the
form
of
cellulose
and
they
produce
water
and
carbon
dioxide,
so
they
actually
produce
water.
So
it
is
mycelium
underground,
you're,
literally
converting
the
carbohydrates
into
water.
The
rotting
mulch
that
converts
into
water
so
that
that's
why
I
mycelium
is
extremely
important
here
and
in
fact,
did
you
know
that
the
largest
known
organism
surviving
today
is
a
fungus.
It's
not
a
whale.
A
Some
people
might
say
a
whale
which
is
I,
think
larger
than
dinosaurs,
such
but
mycelium,
mycelium
made
of
single-cell
strands
of
fungus
that
stretches
for
miles
and
miles
around
is
recorded
at
the
largest
known
single
organism
on
earth.
So
the
mushrooms
are
formidable
think
of
this,
as
if
you
have
abundant
fungi
on
your
on
your
site,
then
your
entire
ground
is
pretty
much
wound
together,
like
fiber,
so
that
it
can't
erode.
So
it
can
retain
moisture.
A
Basically,
when,
when
fungus,
you
can,
for
example,
suck
water
from
one
part
of
the
land
and
transport
it
to
another,
because
it's
all
connected
through
itself,
so
fungi
are
very
important
that
leads
into
the
soil
food
web,
the
healthy
microbes
that
lives
in
the
soil.
So
another
aspect
that
we
consider
is
energy
production.
Things
like
coppicing,
there's
multi-purpose
plants
that
that
can
produce
food
and
fiber
like
say,
say:
biomass
for
for
fuel
and.
A
A
So
things
like
rocks
for
snakes
and
toes
birds,
nests
biotopes,
which
are
animal
habitats,
micro
tubes,
which
I'll
talk
about
some
so
habitats
for
microbes
and
and
livestock
as
other
elements
of
what
we're
designing
with
so
so.
First,
first
I'll
talk
about
the
16
patterns
that
we
use
and
and
going
through,
that
will
help
you
design
your
own
so
that
the
goal
is
to
show
what
we're
doing
here
for
the
CD
go
home,
but
also
what
you
can
apply.
I
mean
we're
in
temperate
zone
zone,
5
continental
US
climate.
A
So
what
we're
talking
about
focuses
on
that
door?
You
can
adapt
the
principles
to
other
places.
So,
let's
start
with
pattern
number
one
of
16,
so
the
underground
and
invisible
I
mention
argue
the
tap
roots
tap
water.
Essentially,
water
comes
from
underground,
not
the
sky
mycelium
for
water
creation,
because
mushrooms
breathe,
as
I
mentioned,
carbohydrates
plus
oxygen
gets
you,
carbon
dioxide
and
water.
Then
there's
a
salt
food
web
bacteria,
fungi
microbes,
so
so.
Fungi
that
that's
in
sympathized
with
with
roots
and
plants
like
Michael
R,
is
a
are
important.
A
They
help
plants
process,
nitrogen,
there's,
nematodes,
arthropods,
earthworms,
bacteria,
organic
matter,
fungi.
So
that's!
That's
the
whole
soul,
food
web,
that
the
lane
ingham
talks
a
lot
about
she's
popularized
that,
but
basically
the
health
of
the
the
site
starts
with
the
microbes
that
you
have
because
they're
doing
all
the
work
in
terms
of
creating
the
nutrients
back
by
decomposing
things,
they
create
nutrients
again
that
in
a
cyclic
ille
web
of
life.
A
So
the
main
point
to
think
about
here
in
practices
add
as
much
biomass
and
produce
as
much
biomass
as
you
can
and
you're
on
your
side.
Something's
growing
cover
crops
or
just
go
to
the
you
know,
go
to
the
recycling
place,
get
tons
and
tons
of
mulch
and
wood
chips
and
all
kinds
of
organic
matter
get
whatever
you
can
get
your
hands
on
then
add
that
to
your
site,
because
it
will
just
increase
your
biological
productivity
in
an
incredible
way.
So
part
of
pattern.
One
is
that
actually
designing
for
the
microbial
environment.
A
So
this
is
some
cutting-edge
research.
We've
got
a
an
advisor
that
that
helped
us
with
this
here,
but
there's
a
relationship
between
the
kinds
of
microbes,
naturally,
is
the
relationship
between
the
microbes
in
your
environment
and
your
human
health.
So
the
goal
is
to
get
the
healthy
microbes
in
and
the
bad
ones
out.
So
certain
things
are
observed
like,
for
example,
having
more
native
flowering
plants
in
your
yard
is
linked
with
more
gamma
proto
bacteria
on
the
skin
and
reduce
the
risk
of
energy
allergies.
So
this
is
some
papers
here.
A
A
All
these
are
edibles
that
are
that
grow
actually
well
and
heat
and
our
environment
here
and
then
what
about
pattern?
Number
three:
the
home
pharmacy,
growing
things
that
are
your
own
medicine
things
like
echinacea,
jin-sang,
garlic,
mint,
goldenseal
medicinal
mushrooms,
okay.
So
let's
look
at
pattern
for
use,
shrubs
and
climbers
to
start
filling.
The
second
layer
under
the
under
the
ground
covers
so
things
in
red
here
include
that
grow.
Very
well,
here
are
grapes:
blackberries
seaberry,
goji,
strawberry
Kiwi.
A
So
this
is
called
temperature
Kiwi,
which,
if
you
don't
know,
that's
actually
a
very
cold
hardy
species.
That's
like
the
hairy
Kiwi
from
New
Zealand,
there's,
raspberries,
gooseberries,
currants
task
app.
That
looks
like
a
blueberry.
It's
like
an
elongated
blueberry
nanking
cherry
bush,
cherry
elderberry,
blueberry,
aronia
Viking
and
many
others
like
like
Bush
bush,
plums
and
others.
A
A
There's
walnut
will
vary
maple
for
maple
syrup
ginkgo
for
a
medicinal
tea
Chinese
cedar
I,
don't
know
what
that
business,
wild,
plum!
Cherry,
like
the
big
yellow
cherry,
because,
for
example,
here
you
can
grow
sour
cherries
really
well,
but
sweet
cherries
don't,
except
for
some
like
it
depicted
big
tree,
yellow
cherry
that
actually
does
exceeding
you
well
here,
whereas
normal
sweet
cherries
will
simply
crack
when,
when
there's
a
lot
of
problems
with
them
rotting
and
cracking
because
there's
too
much
moisture,
etc.
A
No,
not
that
one
there's
that
not
that
one,
the
Hansa
apricot
actually
has
edible
kernels
that
you
can
eat
them
like
like
like
almonds,
there's
plums,
Asian,
pears,
pawpaws
or
an
extremely
well-adapted
crop
you
it's
it's
a
tropical
like
fruit
with
a
great
taste
taste
like
kind
of
like
a
banana,
but
papa's
are
awesome
fruits.
They
don't
keep
well,
that's
why
you
never
see
them
they're,
not
in
stores
American,
persimmons,
peaches,
nectarines
pairs,
cornelian
cherry
dog,
which
is
a
dog
with
yellow
Treacher.
I
mentioned
that
apple,
so
so
name
it.
A
It
was
a
lot
of
lot
of
well-known
crops
here
that
we
can
grow
and
I'll
put
more
emphasis
on
a
hazelnut,
some
chestnuts
in
a
little
little
bit.
So
let's
talk
about
some
patterns
that
are
clearly
visible
in
well
patterns
that
how
we
put
the
the
tree
guilt
together,
meaning
that
what
I
talked
about
before
was
taken
a
tree
taken
a
delay,
the
shrub
layer
under
the
tree,
taking
the
layer
below
that.
How
do
you
combine
them?
Well,
you
have
to
pay
attention
to
well.
A
The
first
thing
is
you
wanna,
as
let's
take
an
example
like
this
Apple
guild
here
we
put
in
daffodils
under
the
Apple
we
put
see.
Where
is
my
daffodils
and
work
very
well,
garlic
chives,
as
an
understory
comfrey,
will
kind
of
take
over
so
so
we
basically
snuffing
out
all
the
graph
that
would
otherwise
go
and
just
replace
it
with
useful
crop
like,
for
example,
capitals
that
will
take
over
and
then
there
also
a
harvestable
crop,
so
you're
taking
it
to
market.
A
So
in
this
this
example
here
we're
combining
apple
now,
you've
got
blueberries
on
the
outside
your
some
Jerusalem
artichokes,
which
get
pretty
tall
on
after
they're,
edible
tuber.
So
in
this
this
whole
system
we've
got
raspberries
towards
the
outside.
There's
asparagus
towards
the
outside
Jerusalem
artichokes
clover,
echinacea,
walking,
onion,
garlic,
chives,
cilantro,
current
strawberry,
daffodil,
dill,
cilantro
and
mint.
So,
combining
all
these
many
many
crops
complete
biodiversity.
To
do
that,
and
you
can
think
about
all
kinds
of
different
guilds
combining
and
start
playing
with
a
lot
of
different
things.
But
there
are
some
rules.
A
Actually,
the
only
thing
after
a
child
for
is
is
that
not
all
plants
can
be
good
companions
in
a
sense
that
some
have
synergistic
relationships.
Others
don't
like,
for
example,
allium,
which
is
your
garlic
and
onions,
can
get
along
with
a
lot
of
lot
of
different
things,
but
this
red
arrow
here
means
that
the
they
do
not
work
well
for
peppers
and
tomatoes
or
four
beams.
So
wherever
there's
a
blue
arrow
here,
take
an
exam
in
this
in
more
detail.
A
The
blue
arrow
means
that
the
two
plants
get
along
well,
the
red
arrow
means
that
you
shouldn't
put
them
together,
because
they
will
actually
not
help
one
another,
they
might
grow,
but
they
probably
might
have
marginal
results.
So
you
can
look
at
this
in
more
detail
as
you're
doing
your
actual
design
to
make
sure
you
don't
make
any
big
mistakes,
like
you
know,
take
one
example
here,
don't
put
your
apricot
by
your
tomatoes,
and
this
is
this
kind
of
a
thing
that
you
know.
This
is
just
a
general
guideline
here.
A
This
is
a
lot
of
complexity
here,
but
the
point
is
for
our
work
we'd
like
to
discover
a
pattern
that
really
really
works.
Well,
if
we
talk
about
building
a
CD
co
home
as
a
standard
product,
we'd
like
to
include
the
landscaping
as
something
that
goes
with
it,
so
we
want
to
learn
about
all
these
good
relationships.
Okay,
pattern
set
number
7,
catch
your
water
or
create
your
water,
so
I
mention
already
about
the
catchment
ponds
so
we're
we
already
have
a
catchment
on
that.
A
That's
going
to
feed
the
CD
go
home,
we're
looking
at
digging
another
bigger
one
for
for
irrigation
or
created
by
doing
things
like
making
sure
your
fun
fungus
population
is
really
healthy
on
your
side.
So
you
create
a
lot
of
mycelium
a
lot
of
lot
of
mushrooms
breathing
under
the
ground.
Keeping
the
ground
wet
constantly
be
composing,
so
you
can
create
water
also
by
making
sure
you
you
plant
a
lot
of
trees
so
that
you've
got
tap
roots
that
go
deep
underground
and
struck
the
water
from
from
the
bedrock,
so
pattern
number
eight.
A
What
we'd
like
to
do
actually
and
we're
considering
this
is
the
aquaponic
extension
extend
the
lightweight
hours
of
the
aquaponic
greenhouse
to
the
outside,
so
see
this
we've
got.
This
is
aquaponic
greenhouse
number
one,
the
first
prototype,
but
it's
800
square
feet
so
think
about
in
the
summer
in
the
summer.
This
is
the
perfect
case
for
bringing
the
towers
outside.
So
you
can.
You
can
increase
your
productivity
here,
we're
talking
about
this
you're
going
to
mark
it
or
say
you
want
a
marketable
operation
where
you
don't
have
enough
space
inside
the
greenhouse.
A
We
can
certainly
extend
extend
to
as
much
as
you
like
outside
now.
These
towers
are
actually
very
light.
They're
filled
with
foam
medium
that
the
roots
grab
in
too,
but
it
would
be
very
easy
to
take
these
outside.
Hang
them
on
trellises
and
water
and
water,
these
with
with
spraying
from
the
top,
and
you
can
either
recirculate
like
here,
we're
using
a
recirculating
system
or
you
can
just
water
it
enough
with
a
microcontroller
you'd,
put
a
timer
controller
on
that.
A
So
you
just
water
the
tower
enough,
so
that
you
don't
have
you
don't
even
have
to
have
a
return
drainage
under
these
tubes
here
and
these
tubes
here
go
back
directly
into
the
ponds
that
are
under
the
powers
where
the
circulation
goes
through
the
through
the
tower
up.
Ok,
you
insert
the
water
inject
the
water
from
the
top.
It
goes
through.
The
towers
then
escapes
from
the
bottom
in
a
continuous
flow.
A
What
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
make
a
continuous
flow,
we're
going
to
experiment
with
just
watering
enough,
so
that
there's
enough
moisture,
but
not
not
so
much
that
it's
just
dribbling
doesn't
have
to
have
the
closed
circuit.
On
that,
ok,
so
definitely
aquaponics
on
the
outside
are
a
great
idea
to
extend
the
productivity
space.
If
you
are
considering
a
market
operation,
if
you're
growing
for
market
or
for
a
CSA,
so
pattern
number
nine
perennial
polyculture.
So
this
is
something
we're
very
interested
in.
A
This
is
where
my
pet
pet
project
of
the
hazelnut
and
chestnut
propagation
comes
in.
So
the
facts
are
that
there
are
four
tons
per
acre
average
soil
losses
in
the
United
States.
Now,
that's
absolutely
not
sustainable
I
mean
that's
a
that's
huge
and
how
do
the
solves?
How
do
we
produce
any
crops?
That's
the
case.
Well,
the
salt
is
getting
leaner
and
leaner
everywhere
and
that's
why
people
have
to
and
put
more
and
more
fertilizers
in
our
official
inputs
to
make
anything
grow
and
then
in
a
mainstream
state
of
agriculture.
So
let's
prevent
that.
A
So
there's
a
fellow
named
Philip
rudder
from
badger,
sett,
research,
badger,
sett,
farm
who's,
proposing
the
idea
of
hazelnuts
and
chestnuts
is
a
perennial
replacement
for
corn
and
soybeans.
That's
that
big
news.
That's
like
a
nobel
peace
prize
worth
worth
many
wars
over
resources
prevented
as
we
retain
our
soil
and
one
can
grow
abundant
crop.
That's
not
so
sensitive
to
to
things
like
frost
sore
or
lack
of
you
know,
say:
droughts
or
floods.
A
These
things
can
survive
because
they're
perennials,
you
can
harvest
them
with
machines
like
this
hazelnut
harvester
here,
but
the
idea
is
is
huge
and
that
imagine
if
you
could
replace
the
corn,
has
carbohydrates,
a
primary
source
of
carbohydrate
for
a
lot
of
the
food
global
food
economy.
Well,
chestnuts
harvested
chestnuts,
which
are
pre-owned
grow
on
trees.
They
have
carbohydrate
as
well.
People
make
chestnut
flour,
things
like
that,
so
it
could
be
treated
like
the
corn
and
then
for
soybeans.
A
You've
got
hazelnuts
which
have
the
high
high
protein
content,
which
can
also
be
used
to
produce
oil,
so
they're
an
oil
and
protein
crop.
So
good
idea.
Then
you
can
run
animals
in
between
the
the
trees
like
chickens
or
piglets
or
whatever.
So
so,
we'd
like
to
see
the
concept
of
perennial
polyculture
come
about
and
that
we
can
start
that
on
a
on
a
scale
of
a
way
home.
So
we're
talking
about
landscaping
for
the
CD
go
home.
A
What
Phil
Philip
is
doing
is
is
breeding
the
hazelnut
so
that
they're
resistant
to
the
eastern
filbert
blight
and
that
they
produce
the
main
point
right
now
is
to
give
their
production
up
so
that
it's
a
viewable
marketable
crop,
so
we're
actually
involved
where
we
planted
a
10,000
of
these
hazel
nuts
last
year
at
a
factory
farm,
they're,
tiny,
they're,
huge,
actually
huge
crop
losses
from
from
rabbits
and
things
will
see
how
many
of
them
come
back
up
in
the
spring.
But
we're
doing
that
because
we
believe
in
it's
a
long-term
experiment
of
swarm
breeding.
A
So
what
he's
doing
actually
is
is
propagating
whole
populations
and
math
selecting
whole
populations
of
plants
with
diversified
genetics,
as
opposed
to
I
mean
here's
the
big
point,
as
opposed
to
getting
a
variety
that
you
want
and
then
doing,
cloning
by
cuttings
or
other
means.
The
goal
here
that
Phil
rudder
is
doing
is
making
them
come
true
from
seeds.
So
so
doing
the
cloud
swarm
breeding
genetics
where
you
select
entire
population,
so
you
propagate
from
seed,
not
from
cuttings.
A
Now,
of
course,
you
can
do
the
cuttings,
if
you
like
to
if
you
want
to
clone
something.
But
the
point
is
continue
the
further
and
further
evolution
of
the
plant,
because
if
your
cloning
you're
cutting
dead,
the
natural
adaptation
processes
of
plants
to
their
environments,
so
if
you
assume
there's
going
to
be
changed
where
the
only
constant
in
the
world
is
change
and
you
have
to
allow
the
plants
to
to
reproduce
sexually
meaning
from
seed,
so
that
the
genetics,
the
genetic
adaptation
and
diversity
is
retained
and
enhanced
to
cope
with
environmental
factors.
A
So
that's
that's
that
that's
we're
getting
into
that.
That's
a
good
pattern
that
could
definitely
consider,
because,
if
you
have
these
plants
in
your
backyard,
you
can
actually
save
seed
and
keep
growing
them
out
and
do
your
little
micro
breeding
experiments.
So
pattern
can
miracle
orchards.
This
is
a
actually
very
nice
model
developed
by
Stefan
sub
Kobe
akiza,
the
guy
from
Canada.
We
had
a
workshop
with
him
here
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
the
idea
here
is
that
you
create
a
small
about
a
one
or
two
acre
scale:
market
garden.
A
That's
it's
like
picking
from
grocery
store
shelves
where
there
are
nice.
Fine,
piles,
I'm
actually
going
to
show
you
this
in
this,
because
it's
so
remarkable
I
really
really
like
this.
So
let
me
show
you
some
of
the
scenes
from
the
what
this
stuff
looks
like,
but
but
I
mean
we're
talking
about
diverse
crops,
also
the
the
Guild's
like
I
mentioned,
so
the
so
the
top
the
top
layer
of
tree,
the
shrubs
and
the
understory
throughout,
where
you're
going
to
have
a
whole
bunch
of
the
verse
craw.
So
you
can
have
chickens
in
the
aisles.
A
This
is
some
of
the
scenes
from
it.
It's
a
permaculture
orchard
where
you're
focusing
on
perennial
plants
and
something
that
you
plant
once
and
you
have
fruit
from
it
forever.
So
this
is
these
are
some
of
the
achievements
from
step
on
no
fertilizers
since
2007,
he
typically
what
he
does
and
he
does
the
nap
and
AP
combination.
So
it's
nitrogen,
fixer,
apple
and
plum.
Are
such
such
combination,
where
the
fertility
is
also
generated
from
the
nitrogen
fixer
that's
planted
in
between
these
tools?
To
look
at
this?
A
He
gets
various
kinds
of
plants,
diversity
of
yields
taking
care
of
wildlife
habitat
at
the
same
time-
and
this
is
this-
is
kind
of
an
example,
for
example,
for
the
nitrogen
fixer,
you
can
use
honey,
locust
among
many
others,
there's
apple
in
there
there's
lemon
balm
and
understory.
You
can
cover
the
whole
understory
with
with
onions
or
other
crops,
garlic's
men.
He
doesn't
mulching
on
the
understory
there.
So
you
see
just
a
thick
layer
of
just
plastic
mulch
so
that
you
don't
have
to
fight
the
weeds.
A
When
you
start
establishing-
and
you
poke
the
plants
right
into
this
system-
and
then
he
also
does
a
bio
top,
which
is
shall
talk
about
button,
complex
ecosystem,
you
know,
but
beautiful
work
and
here's
that
I
wanted
to
show
you
also
a
biotope
which
is
a
it's
a
habitat
for
20-plus
species
of
wildlife.
So
you
have
bumble
bees,
wasps,
toads,
frogs
birds,
you
can
add
bat
houses,
you
can
add
up
for
us
in
particular,
you
can
add
owl
and
Hawk
roosts.
A
What
we
have
done
in
our
field
is
added
like
20
foot
poles,
so
that
owls
and
hawks
could
rest
them
and
gobble
up
the
bunnies
that
are
eating
our
newly
planted
hazelnuts
and
chestnuts.
So
you
can
invite
various
beneficial
crops
to
the
animals
and
species
to
your
site
by
doing
that,
and
you
have
to
do
some
integrated
pest
management
etc.
A
So
that's
that's
a
brief
overview
of
the
deeper
mical,
the
promo
cultural
orchard,
the
miracle
orchard
concept
beautiful
and
we
can
apply
some
of
those
principles
to
the
to
the
plantings
directly
outside
of
our
up
on
the
site.
Landscaping
plan,
so
pattern
number
11
a
forest.
So
that's
a
forest
org
I've
force,
calm!
Ok,
so
this
is
a
forest.
Is
a
methodology
for
getting
a
rapidly
established
micro
forest
anywhere?
Think
of
this
essentially
as
John
Jevons,
with
deep
dig
by
backhoe
instead
of
shovel.
A
So
what
you
do
is
you
use
a
backhoe
like
you
see
here,
there's
backhoe
digging,
but
you
prepare
a
site
down
one
metre
deep
one
or
a
little
more
than
one
meter
deep,
and
then
you
mix
in
a
lot
of
organic
matter
and
manure
fertilizers
so
that
you
pretty
much
prepare
a
site
in
an
optimal
way
for
for
your
tree
crop
to
get
established.
This
is
actually
pictures
from
our
install
a
factory
farm
here
with
all
the
plants
we
focused
on
a
food
forest
which
had
a
lot
of
our
he's.
A
Almost
chestnuts,
pawpaws
persimmons,
like
all
these
edible
crops
that
are
also
natives.
So
the
idea
is,
if
you
select
everything
that
is
native
you're,
going
to
get
these
things
to
really
take
off
them
and
they're,
pretty
much
fight
it
out
among
themselves.
They'll
establish
good
relations,
good
or
bad
relationships,
but
you
planted
a
high
density.
You
let
them
grow
really
fast.
That's
an
idea
worth
spreading,
so
you
can
look
up
a
forest
calm!
A
Look
up
on
our
wiki
too,
for
more
information
on
that.
So
pattern,
number
12
is
chickens.
Now
chickens
are
a
universally
beneficial
stock
that
you
want
to
want
to
get
on
your
sites.
Over
so
r
1
acre
site
around
the
house
will
be
fenced
and
we're
going
to
have
a
dog
guard
dogs.
I
would
recommend
we
actually
got
a
large
dog
breeds
for
protection,
but
but
a
rat
terrier
is
probably
a.
A
Can
you
can
take
the
meat
from
that,
so
very
beneficial
species
that
no
garden
should
really
be
without
so
we
have
some
chickens
right
now
we're
going
to
have
a
bunch
of
them
running
around
on
our
one
acre
when
when
its
brown
stuff,
so
we
can,
you
know
comfortably
probably
get
I
mean,
depending
how
many
of
you
want,
but
like
a
hundred
chickens
on
an
acre
would
be
totally
foraging
varieties
like
these
Rhode
Island
Reds.
Here
they
sell
forage
now
you
don't
have
to
feed
them
pretty
much.
So.
Okay,
next
pattern
is
included
renewable
energy.
A
So
we
already
have
P
dianna
on
the
house.
We
have
biogas
production,
that's
being
installed.
We
have
a
biogas
bag,
a
bag
outside
the
house
so
that
it's
safe
outside
PD
is
definitely
low-cost.
Biogas
we'd
like
to
see
as
a
replicable
option
for
the
temperate
zones
right
now.
It's
not
because
it's
hard
to
do-
or
it's
not
documented
well
enough
at
this
point,
I
mean
works
well
in
the
tropics.
A
lot
of
people
do
that
in
the
tropics
for
the
tempered
zone.
A
You
have
the
next
issue
of
fries
proofing,
because
water
you
bagged
up
the
gesture
with
one
is
going
to
freeze,
so
you
have
a
regarding
freezing
freezing
of
the
system.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we
keep
the
die
jet
bio
digester
inside,
but
the
gas
collection
outside
so
that
the
that
the
explosion,
any
risk
of
explosion
from
having
gas
stored
inside
would
be
eliminated.
Now
we're
also
going
to
do
an
experiment
on
hydrogen
there's
an
advisor
we
have
who
who's
done?
A
Separation
of
water
into
hydrogen
oxygen
he's
actually
running
a
barbecue.
He
calls
it
a
hydro
cube,
but
we're
going
to
experiment
with
generating
gas,
because
if
we
have
abundant
PV,
which
we
can
install
more
of
that,
we
can
compress
just
store
and
compressed
hydrogen
at
relatively
low
pressures
so
that
we're
all
safe,
but
that's
definitely
worth
exploring.
Is
it's
something
for
the
future?
Definitely
an
energy
sort
of
energy
medium
for
the
future,
so
pattern
number
14
is
biochar
and
fuel.
A
A
They
just
come
back
because
all
the
energies
in
the
roots,
so
you
can
harvest
the
woody
woody
mass
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
in
our
system
is
to
do
pellet
eyes
that
and
then
run
it
burn
it
in
the
winter,
with
a
partial
burn
so
that
we're
generating
charcoal
on
a
continuous
basis.
So
the
idea
here
is
continuous.
Charcoal
production
from
from
biomass
crop,
that's
harvested
right
off
the
site,
and
then,
if
you
have
charcoal
charcoal
biochar
is
also
a
part
of
the
soul.
A
Food
web,
if
you
add
biochar
to
the
cell,
that
provides
a
lot
of
comfortable
habitat
for
microbes
and
therefore
increases
the
fertility
of
the
soil.
So
idea
being,
you
burn,
burn
this
wood
as
pallets
in
the
winter
to
generate
heat,
and
we
generate
palletized
palletize,
charcoal
that
can
be
used
then,
and
things
like
like
charcoal
gasifiers
for
power
like
using
using
our
tractors
and
other
other
equipment,
and
then
you
can
talk
about
other
things
that
come
from
plants.
A
Like
I
mentioned
by
hydraulic
fluid,
which
which
can
be
as
simple
as
canola
oil
with
additives,
rubber,
I
mentioned,
comes
from
dandelion
root.
Resin
bioplastics
come
from
plants,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
inevitable,
as
technology
improves
that
we'll
have
our
own
appliance.
So
here
you
can
now
make
plastic
from
even
throw
in
some
pellets
biomass
pots.
On
one
side,
the
other
side
comes
plastics
or
or
yours,
your
rubber
production,
appliance
or
bio,
hydraulic,
fluid
appliance,
I
mean
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
limit
to
that.
A
The
question
is
what
what
makes
sense
for
people
to
do
on
what
scale,
but
certainly
we
can
definitely
decrease
the
scale
from
the
global
supply
chains
too
much
more
local
by
using
open
source,
appropriate
technology.
So
well,
let's
talk
about
the
fields
a
little
bit
because
there's
a
good
point
I
want
to
make
regarding
the
feasibility
and-
and
so
as
I
mentioned
top
five
biomass,
plus
charcoal
production.
If
you
see
grow
trees,
a
sustainable
crop
not
like
with
that
sustainably
harvested
that
doesn't
deplete
the
system.
A
You
have
about
2,000
pounds
of
dry
biomass
per
acre
per
year.
So
that's
what
you've
got.
If
you
turn
that
into
charcoal-
let's
say
it's:
twenty-five
percent
efficiency
because
you
lose
the
mass
when
you
convert,
would
too
charcoal
say
you
get
a
twenty-five
percent
yield,
which
is
a
good
yield.
I
mean
that's,
that's
documented,
but
it's
a
good
yield.
Then
you
have
500
pounds
of
charcoal
which
is
equivalent
to
about
25
gallons
of
liquid
fuel
per
year.
A
So
that's
what
off
one
anchor
so
think
about
all
this
we're
paying
attention
to
accomplishing
your
biomass
crops
and
maximizing
for
that.
So
you
can
produce
some
fuel
well
25,
gallons
per
year
that
get
you
some
some
some
mobility,
if
you're
talking
about
burning
that
for
for
transportation,
but
let's
look
at
biogas:
I!
Don't
that's!
Actually,
when
you
look
at
the
numbers
more
favorable
like
they
have
access
to
abundant
grass
clippings
and
I'll.
Talk
about
that.
A
Now
that
means
in
a
four
cubic
meter:
bio
digester
system
like
we
are
setting
up
right
now,
you
could
get
a
200-gallon
bezel
per
year,
equivalent
200
gallons
diesel,
equivalent
from
a
four
cubic
meter
biodigesters.
We
feed
that
with
grass
every
day
Wow.
Well,
you
can
look
at
the
link
for
the
calculations,
linkage
hyperlink
than
the
presentation.
A
That's
pretty
amazing!
That's
like
you
can
talk
about
a
person
generating
all
the
fuel
in
the
form
of
say
the
compressed
natural
gas
can
put
compress
the
biogas.
So
you
have
your
shown
gas
cylinders
like
propane,
compress,
it's
like
a
hundred
or
200
psi,
and
you
can
run
your
cars
or
vehicles
on
that
they'll
be
interesting.
It's
feasible!
Technically,
it's
feasible!
It's
something!
We'd
like
to
do
actually
to
see
see
how
practical
that
is.
So
this
assumes
an
abundant
feedstock
of
graphs,
but
just
for
reference
here,
I've
gone
through
some
numbers.
A
Actually
challenge
have
a
challenge
out
to
you
here:
go
through
these
calculations
yourself
and
convince
yourself
or
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
calculations
on
the
back
of
an
anvil.
This
it's
the
page
of
documentation
on
the
wiki,
but
currently
three
percent
of
the
farm
land
area
of
the
United
States
is
sufficient
to
replace
all
transportation
fuels.
This
is
for
the
US.
A
Now
that
could
be
a
wake-up
call,
because
three
percent
of
Foreman
imagine
you're
converting
three
percent
of
farmland
into
fuel
crop
and
say
you
take
hazelnut
and
chestnut.
There
are
also
a
food
crop,
so
you're
talking
about
generating
all
this
biomass
then
also
allowing
for
other
functions,
because
these
are
integrated
agro
biological
systems,
agroecology
with
many
different
species
in
there,
Polly
cultures,
so
think
about
taking
out
three
percent
of
farmland
and
converting
that
the
perennial
polyculture
and
then
getting
the
all
the
fuels
to
replace
all
transportation
in
the
transportation
fuels
in
the
United
States.
A
You
have
to
go
through
these
numbers
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
because
this
is
I
think
a
reasonable
estimate
which,
which
would
say
that
hey
the
oil
wars
are
a
thing
of
the
past,
because
we
can.
We
can
generate
biomass
fuel
biofuel
on
in
a
net
present
economy.
Now
it's
got
to
be
that
way.
Somewhere,
we
have
to
get
renewable
energy
and
biofuels
are
definitely
a
candidate,
so
so
go
through
these
numbers
and
see
for
yourself.
I'd
really
appreciate
if
you
provided
some
feedback
on
that.
A
So
okay
pattern,
number
15
for
your
your
landscaping
plan.
Biotope
I
already
mentioned
this
bats,
birds,
birds,
wasp,
bumblebee,
snakes,
frogs,
toads,
hawks
and
our
roots.
This
is
from
the
miracle
orchard
people
something
you
definitely
want
to
consider
for
your
site.
So
you
get
a
lot
of
beneficial
species
there
now
Tyler
number
16,
so
kind
of
like
an
expansive
thought
here.
How
do
you
turn
your
your
single
acre
into
1,000
acres?
A
Well,
expand
by
getting
aerial,
cleat
creatures
to
inhabit
your
site
like
bats
and
be
so
think
about
bats,
their
bug,
collectors
of
huge
amounts
of
bugs
every
night
from
miles
around
your
site
or
bees
they
collect
palms
from
miles
around
and
bring
it
back
to
a
high
of
a
hive
set
up
at
your
site
so
you're
effectively.
Turning
on
one
acre
of
productivity
to
a
thousand
from
that
now
think
about
also
other
other
things.
That's
that's
the
animals
working
for
you
that
you
have
designed
into
the
system
but
think
about
your
own
work.
A
You
can
be,
for
example,
here
we
can
go
on
a
countryside,
roads
and
mold
them
and
get
bales
and
bring
them
back
to
our
site.
Perhaps
even
the
city
department
would
pay
us
for
that,
because
we're
mowing
their
lawns.
They
mold
the
roadsides
here
every
year,
so
think
about
harvesting
going
on
the
road
just
harvesting
bailing
stuff
from
all
over
your
area.
As
I
mentioned,
we
want
to
set
up
you
environment
for
microbes
and
fungus,
my
Celia
so
that
you
have
a
rich
soil
food
web
and
that's
biomass
only
concern
there
being
like
it.
A
If
your
site
has
run
off
from
a
watershed,
if
you
dig
ponds
to
collect
that,
where
you're
effectively
trapping
more
water
than
then
you
have
coming
to
your
side
because
you're
getting
that
the
moisture
collecting
the
moisture
that
falls
on
land
above
you
uphill
from
you.
So
if
you
can
collect
that,
then
then
you
can
have
more
plant
productivity
using
local
resources,
because
plant
growth
is
really
in
the
summer.
A
Here
it's
really
like
how
much
water
do
you
have
to
irrigate
it
in
an
environment
like
here
where
water
certainly
helps
that's,
why
water
based
systems
like
aquaponics
are
much
more
productive
as
well,
so
so
ya,
think
about
using
animal
friends
and
yourself
to
harvest
resources
from
all
around
your
area,
not
a
bad
model.
So,
let's
so,
let's
think
about
the
business
models
around
because
we
could
think
about.
If
we're
ever
going
to
change
the
world
with
open
source
technology
or
regenerative
development,
we
have
to
talk
about
how
people
make
a
living.
A
An
idea
here
is
that
we're
working
on
that
along
several
routes,
including
the
aquaponics,
the
miracle
orchard
model,
a
diversified
csa,
not
only
that,
but
the
open
source
microfactory
an
open
source
nursery.
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
these,
so
for
hydroponics.
Like
you
see
this
fully
automatic
hydroponic
hydroponics
growing
the
the
proprietary
commercial
systems
out,
there
gets
you
up
to
900
crops
per
square
of
lettuce
for
square
meter
per
year.
Man,
that's
some
amazing
productivity.
If
open
source
could
lead
to
a
lot
of
distributive
economic
activity.
A
So
that's
six
del
bees,
equivalent
of
six
thousand
dollars
per
mile
from
800
square
feet
of
that
kind
of
hydroponic
system.
That's
the
size
of
our
aquaponic
greenhouse
one!
So
there's
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
if
we
could
optimize
the
system
for
say
lettuce
or
multiple
crop
production.
It's
also
natural,
because
here
they're
going
to,
of
course,
probably
new
kid
with
pesticides
to
get
that
kind
of
a
crop
yield.
But
you
know
maybe
reduce
that
because
you're
allowing
other
species
to
live
in
there
and
you
might
have
some
loss
due
to
pests,
but.
A
Certainly,
even
from
a
800
square
foot
space,
it's
theoretically
not
impossible
to
make
a
fool.
You
know
a
full
living
out
of
that,
especially
if
you
include
things
like
sprouting,
so
you
buy
seeds
or
you
grow
your
seeds.
Let's
say
you
just
buy
seeds
and
you
grow
them
out
into
sprouts
extremely
profitable
business
models
there.
Okay!
So
let's
look
at
the
permaculture
orchard.
A
If
you
got
to
set
up
an
acre
of
that,
it's
going
to
cost
you
about
a
dollar
per
square
foot
to
establish
if
you
hire
that
out
and
get
all
the
plants
off
the
shelf
so
about
40,000
per
acre
establishment
costs,
not
cheap,
but
then
you're
a
year,
5
revenue.
After
all,
the
trees
grow
up
and
you
can
harvest
revenues.
A
There
is
about
a
dollar
per
square
foot
so
once
again
about
forty
thousand
dollars
per
acre
and
it
takes
half
a
person
per
acre
one
to
two
months
of
seasonal
work
to
maintain
a
permaculture
orchard,
the
Beyond
Organic
miracle
orchard.
So
that's
why
that
could
be
very
cool.
If
you
set
up
a
csa
pickup
or
you
pick
kind
of
a
CSA,
then
you
don't
have
the
labor
and
harvest
which
is
a
huge
part
of
the
labor,
so
you
can
think
about
you,
maintain
it
for
about
a
month
or
two
of
Labor
half
a
person.
A
So
it's
really
about
a
month
of
labor
half
a
month
to
one
month
of
labor
every
year
you
maintain
it,
you
trim
it
you
you
replant
things
or
plant
new
things,
but
then
you
can
harvest
the
benefits
of
that.
So
a
robust
model
like
that
to
make
that
affordable
to
replicate,
would
be
a
great
idea.
So
one
thing
along
those
lines
that
were
thinking
is
establishing
an
open
source
nursery.
It
provide
all
the
stock
because
the
all
the
plants
stock.
That's
a
lot
of
money,
that's
probably
like
I
guess
most
of
the
costs
involved.
A
There
is
actually
I'm,
not
sure
it's
but
significant
about
fifty
percent,
at
least
for
the
plant
stocks
required
to
plant
up
one
acre
of
permaculture
orchard,
and
you
can
look
at
that
link
on
the
wiki
for
the
full
details.
There
I
forgot
what
the
details
were
there
so
that
mom
another
business
model
is
different:
the
desert,
diversified,
csa,
lettuce,
sprouts,
vegetables,
honey
herbs,
fruit,
canning,
fish,
chicken,
eggs,
compost,
etc.
Charcoal
how
about
that
bales,
hay,
bales,
but
think
about
a
model
that
if
you
have
a
lot
of
different
open-source
equipment,
that's
low
cost
affordable.
A
You
can.
You
can
fully
run
a
csa
with
good
economic
return
and
a
point
is
to
dissolve
this
workable
replicable
model.
That's
the
point.
A
lot
of
people
say
that's
impossible
because
of
all
the
diversity,
that's
out
there
and
all
the
variables.
But
the
point
is
you
can't
you
can
spend
a
lot
of
time,
engineering
it
and
you
can
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
risks
and
figure
out
the
things
that
work
and
develop
the
patterns
for
localized
areas
and
open
source
it
and
therefore
you
can
have
these
kinds
of
models
become
much
more
prevalent.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
business
model
part
is
open
source
microfactory.
So
that's
not
a
far
cry.
I
mean
just
having
3d
printers
running
and
printing
stuff
24-7
we're
working
on
that.
So
the
idea
here
is
for
us
is
a
10-10
3d
printer
cluster.
We
can
print
things
like.
I
was
just
actually
looking
at
fencing
for
the
entire
30
acres
site
and
it
turns
out
the
fencing
is
about
about
ten
ten
thousand
dollars
for
the
whole
site.
We're
about
five
thousand
dollars
of
that
is
fence
post.
Well,
they
actually
make
plastic
fence
post.
A
So
how
about
we
print
those,
let's
print
them
and
look
at
the
maximum
printing
rates,
and
you
can
print
about
a
stake
per
hour
using
a
using
current
open
source
technology,
so
think
about
you
making
like
24
steaks
per
day.
That
thing
is
running
24
7
by
yourself.
If
you
have
an
automated
system,
so
you
know
each
stake.
A
Cluster
people
can
order
from
the
internet
and
you
can
ship
and
you
would
have
to
have
things
like
automatic
harvesting
and
like
a
really
nice
system,
which
can
be
done
through
automation
quite
a
bit,
and
it's
very
interesting
because
machines
can
do
the
work
for
you
and
then
then
you
can
also
go
from
the
3d
printer
to
other
tools
like
CNC
torch
tables
and
heavy
machines
that
fit
in
a
16
by
16
workshop.
Even
they
can
be
making
pretty
complex
things
there.
A
So
the
3d
printer
is
perhaps
a
good
part
of
the
open-source
micro
faculty
can
do
things
like
agricultural
implements,
including
the
towers
we
can
3d
print
the
towers
for
our
the
growing
towers
for
the
aquaponic
greenhouse.
We
can
3d
print
the
glazing
for
our
greenhouse,
which
is
actually
our
plan
for
the
next
workshop
we'd
like
to
have
with
the
current
3d
printers
that
we're
designing
we'd
like
to
actually
use
the
polycarbonate
multi-wall
glazing
early
printed
ourselves
for
the
next
build.
So
keep
your
eyes
out
for
that.
A
A
So
let's
look
at
that,
so
the
first
nursery
perennial
nursery
enterprise,
I
kind
of
looked
at
a
rough
number
of
what
it
would
take
to
buy
all
the
stock
that
I
talked
about
today
from
all
the
plants
trees,
animals
I'm,
actually
including
a
chicken's
mushrooms
in
dissent
in
this
I,
actually
included
even
a
cow
actually
and
a
pig.
But
but
st.
costs
about
three
thousand
dollars
is
about
reasonable
for
all
the
diversity
of
stock,
including
order
your
herbs
and
perennial
vegetables
and
everything,
because
it's
all
hard
to
get
it.
A
So
you
can't
get
it
all
in
one
spot.
First
of
all,
you
have
the
researchers
and
90s
back
it
down.
So
no
turn
key
service
allows
you
to
get
all
the
stock
optimized
for
your
site
and
then
just
one
click
buy
it
now.
It
doesn't
exist
lots
of
work,
but
they
spend
the
work
to
do
that.
That's
what
we're
doing
we're
trying
to
identify
and
plant
all
these
species,
but
33
k
of
three
thousand
dollars
of
stock
well
easily.
A
So
the
point
being,
once
you
have
all
the
stock
available,
then
running
a
propagation
operation
or
an
or
an
open
source
nursery
business
that
could
be
an
enterprise
in
itself,
because
once
you
have
the
stock
you're
free
forever
to
propagate
that,
that's
why
we
want
to
have
heirloom
stock,
no
plant
patents,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
open
pollinated
species
so
that
you
get
the
genetic
adaptation
as
opposed
to
getting
clones
that
then
die
off
because
some
pest
or
changed
environmental
factor
knocks
them
out.
Well,
so
perhaps
you
can
use
your
one
acre
homestead
to
do
this.
A
Well,
that's
about
all!
For
here!
That's
pretty
much
all
I
have
to
say
about
the
perennial
landscape,
and
what
we've
done
here
is
go
through
a
number
of
patterns
that
exist
that
anyone
can
use.
We
talked
about
the
generalities
of
them,
we
didn't
necessarily
say
this
is
exactly
what
we're
doing,
because
that
works
still
work
in
progress.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
this
and
open
up
my
camera
here
so
yeah.
Would
that
said,
that's
that
some
of
the
main
patterns
we're
using
I,
didn't
get
into
the
actual
specific
designs
a
lot
of
the
work
here.
A
The
challenge
for
us
is
that
the
a
lot
of
the
soil
is
so
depleted
that
for
some
things
that
should
grow,
it's
actually
very
hard
to
grow
them
like,
for
example,
I
have
not
seen
Jerusalem
artichokes
that
don't
take
over
your
land,
but
here
on
on
a
clay
soil
they
almost
like
died
off
they're
still
living,
but
they're,
hardly
producing
any
tubers
I
mean
they're
they're
having
a
hard
time
and
a
totally
eroded
soil.
Even
so
so
definitely
things
like
using
growing
bags.
A
Building
of
the
biomass
is
very
important
for
us,
and
then
we
can
really
explode
with
our
productivity,
but
once
you
really
invest
in
the
quality
of
the
soil
and
a
availability
of
constant
moisture,
you
can
really
go
nuts
and
producing
a
lot
of
product
off
any
site.
So
I'd
like
to
open
this
up
to
questions,
let's
look
at
a
few
minutes
of
questions
and
otherwise
call
it
a
day.
So
any
questions
from
yeah.
B
B
A
It's
definitely
concerned
about
that
like
already
trained,
and
you
can
see
erosion
ditch
is
where
I
showed
that
all
that
blacks,
the
dirt
in
the
world
of
pictures,
some
of
that
has
already
washed
into
the
pond,
because
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
water
catches
so
deadly,
but
the
immediate
thing
you
can
do
is
silt
fences
so
go
to
menards
and
get
yourself
some
silt
fence.
We
basically
steaks
with
some
plastic
mashing
between
us
to
let,
when
you
run
it
a
traverse
to
the
runoff
channels.
A
It'll
just
collect
the
soil
that
washes
any
biomass
that
washes
off.
Basically,
anytime,
you
have
exposed
soil
if
it's
dry,
the
little
breeze
will
start
whipping
off
little
pieces
of
biomass
or
any
water.
If
there's
any
slope
at
all,
we'll
just
start
washing
things
as
they
just
float
in
the
water.
So,
yes,
it's
a
major
concern
and
that
we
actually
put
some
straw
on
debt
already
some
some
mulch
strong,
and
we
definitely
want
to
get
that
grass
top
like
we
got
a
plant,
clover
or
grass
or
whatever
to
stabilize
it.
A
B
A
Ireland
in
Maryland
ya
know
we
had
some
pretty
fierce
winter
in
December
January.
We
were
perhaps
one
of
the
what
some
of
the
coldest
time
we
I
mean.
It
was
pretty
cold
and
brutal
right
now
it's
actually
warmed
up
like
like
summer,
so
hopefully
the
leaves
don't
leave
out
on
the
plants
such
that
we
are
losing
crop
because
buds
get
get
killed
off
by
a
late
frost,
but
right
now
its
last
few
days,
it's
been
like
60,
so
yeah.
B
A
A
B
A
Definitely
ASAP
we
gotta
do
that,
so
that's
definitely
good
and
when
you
mulch
it
with,
we
have
a
big
one
of
those
big
thousand-pound
bales.
We
put
one
out
there,
so
we're
depositing
it
on
a
site.
So
that's
that's
protecting
some
of
that
some
of
the
erosion
already,
but
I
think
that
silt
fence.
I
was
going
to
get
that
like
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
I
do
plan
on
doing
that
still
because,
because,
basically
in
a
like
coming
up,
probably
like
march
april,
we
are
going
to
get
some
rain
here.
A
Definitely
and
by
that
time
the
things
are
not
going
to
be
established.
So
it's
a
definite
good
idea
to
get
that
silt
fence
and
because
that's
going
to
be
immediate,
multiple
silt
fence
and
then
like
by
May,
things
are
starting
to
establish,
but
until
May
you're
really
very
vulnerable,
so
yeah,
okay,
so
one
more
question
Donald
the
clay
remove
from
enough
for
us
could
be
used
to
make
make
cds
Donald
the
clay
that
we
do
in
a
forest
planting.
A
What
we're
doing
there
is
really
double
digging
with
a
backhoe,
so
we're
putting
everything
back
into
the
that
we
dug
and
actually
fluffs
up.
So
it's
actually
like
a
big
big
raised
bed.
It
kind
of
rises
like
a
couple
of
feet
once
you
mix
all
the
straw
in
there
and
you
kind
of
Airy
this
all.
So
we're
not
take
any
of
that
off
off
to
the
side.
It's
going
right
back
in
just
amended.
A
It's
essentially
think
about
it
as
like,
like
overkill
with
a
hammer,
you
know
on
a
site
that
would
take
you
a
hundred
years
to
put
in
you
know,
by
natural
decomposition
and
all
that
animals
fertilizing.
That
will
take
you,
whatever
a
hundred
years,
to
get
the
fertility
back
up
to
that
side,
but
bud.
You
can
do
that
in
the
season
by
putting
tons
of
biomass
and
tons
of
manure
in
there,
so
that
you
have
that
effect
that
you'd
otherwise
have
from
many
many
years
of
fertility
deposition
in
there.
A
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
the
idea
there
is
that
actually
lush
cosmetics,
funded
one
of
those
biotopes
was
part
of
their
their
social
responsibility.
Work
so
step
on
when
he
did
that
that
was
that
biotope
build
was
funded
by
lush,
cosmetics
and
I.
Think
the
relevance
to
lush
cosmetics
was
something
maybe
about
ingredients
like
bees
wax
or
something
or
it
could
have
been
just
plain:
social,
conscious
activity
and
a
part
of
that
business.
But
that's
who
funded
that
biotope
and
the
research
work
on
that
I
actually
tried
to
email
Stefan
about
that.
A
A
Yeah
we
alright
so
yeah
I,
guess
I
will
call
it
a
date.
They
hear
them,
and
so
so
would
like
to
wrap
up.
Thank
you
all
for
listening.
This
was
webinar
number,
eight
on
the
regenerative
landscape
for
the
seed
eco
home
and
we'll
be
back
next
week.
So
stay
tuned
them
thanks
for
listening
and
have
a
good
day
take
care.