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From YouTube: OSE Apprenticeship - Chad Hines
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Been
doing
for
the
past
three
months,
while
I
was
doing
that
job
full
time
at
the
time,
I
was
also
trying
to
maintain
a
part-time
job
teaching.
Kids,
it's
like
a
python-like
programming
language.
It's
like
kid
script.
I
was
also
prior
to
that
teaching
english
online.
That's
kind
of
what
I
was
doing
during
the
pandemic.
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But
yeah
recently
I've
just
been
kind
of
using
the
the
time
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
like
technical
skills
were
really
interesting
to
me.
First,
that
I
thought
that
I
would
be
able
to
learn
fairly
quickly
and
then
trying
to
find
ways
to
incorporate
that
into
how
I
imagined
a
career
for
myself
that
could
both
be
satisfying
and.
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Yeah,
that's
that's
a
big
question,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
I
can
answer
it.
I
guess
the
most
obvious
one
or
the
way
that
springs
to
mind
is
I
like
thinking
about
systems
sort
of
at
the
level
at
which
they
have
patterns
in
common,
rather
than
the
things
that
are
different.
You
know,
academic
knowledge
tends
to
be
very
siloed
and
what
I
did
when
I
was
doing
my
graduate
work
and
afterwards
was
trying
to
essentially
find
shortcuts
and
ways
to
do
one
thing
without
learning
all
of
the
necessary
intermediary
steps.
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So,
whether
I
take
the
documentation
side
of
it
and
in
the
future,
I
don't
make
tractors
or
you
know
I
don't
do
3d
printing,
but
I
take
the
skills
that
I've
learned
documenting
how
to
do
those
processes
which,
to
be
honest,
they're,
not
processes
that
I
already
know
how
to
do.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
like
build
skill.
I
have
documentation
skill
and
writing
skill.
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Obviously,
so
it
would
be
a
way
for
me
to
provide
essentially
an
open
source
portfolio,
one
thing
of
my
work
because
it
would,
if
I
understand
this
job
correctly,
as
opposed
to
a
lot
of
jobs,
where
I
would
be
doing
a
similar
thing.
The
result
of
that
would
be
completely
open
source
also,
so
I
could
use
that
to
you
know
convince
other
people
that
I
knew
what
I
was
doing.
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becomes
the
dominant
force,
the
things
that
people
think
of
when
they
think
of
that
thing,
and
everyone
else
wants
to
imitate
that
model.
Then
you've
done
something
wrong
from
the
beginning,
because
I
feel
like
it's
a
loss
of
efficiency,
if
built
into
the
thing
that
you're
building
is
recognition
that
you
were
the
one
that
built
it.
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So
I'm
the
thing
that
interests
me
about
organizations
or
ways
of
of
of
doing
things
is
the
potential
for
it
to
be
decentralized
and
actually
anonymized,
so
it
can
have
an
influence
without
getting
credit,
because
I
think,
like
credit,
especially
if
it's
demanded,
like
I
said
it's,
a
efficiency
drag,
it's
always
going
to
be
something
that
you
could
have
like.
The
design
could
be
better
if
it
it
didn't
have
built
into
this.
This
need
for
recognition.
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The
aspect
of
it
where
you
had
to
make
money,
would
gradually
eclipse
the
the
rest
of
the
endeavor
to
the
point
where
you
weren't
really
doing
the
thing
that
you
were
doing.
You
were
just
making
money,
but
in
a
way
that
resembled
the
thing
that
you
originally
set
out
to
do
yeah.
So
then
I
just
started
to
think
really
like
if
ever
like.
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If,
if
everything
is
about
making
money,
then
how
do
you
actually
make
money,
and
is
it
important
if
the
way
that
you're
accruing
value
in
terms
of
financial
value
is
also
occurring
value
in
other
senses
like
knowledge,
and
can
you
do
that?
Does
it
have
to
be
simultaneous?
Can
you
have
a
funding
phase
and
then
switch
over.
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Are
about
money
like
from
the
beginning,
but
the
the
way
that
they're
about
money
is
also
about
the
other
things
that
I
would
want
to
have
the
project
be
about,
which
is
like
the
relationships
between
the
people
that
I
would
work
with,
and
the
governance
you
know
like
how
decisions
are
made
things
like
that.
So
yeah.
I
have
different
ways
of
monetizing
various
things
that
I've
learned,
how
to
do,
and
I'm
kind
of
eager
to
try
them
out.
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After
the
six
months,
if
I
feel
like
those
are
the
the
real
operating
principles
that
you
know
on
the
ground
are
actually
put
into
place
and
will
be
in
the
future,
then
essentially
I'm
on
board,
whatever
other
activities.
If
that,
like
governance
structure,
is
in
place,
and
I
feel
like
it's
genuine,
then
I
would
love
to
build
homes.
Build
tractors,
go
wherever
it
one
of
the
things.
Maybe
that
was
hard
to
hear
in
the
video.
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Yeah
absolutely
yeah,
I
mean
kind
of
like
I
was
saying
before
I
like
to
position
myself
to
be
able
to
adapt
to
whatever
the
the
future,
whatever
happens,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
kind
of
imagining.
I
mentioned
the
appalachian
trail
so
like.
If
I
get
the
3d
printer
and
we
make
small
models,
we
can
have
a
barcode
on
the
back
of
them.
You
know
the
miniature
eco
house
or
whatever.
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Any
like
activity
can
embody
or
incorporate
like
larger
ideas.
It
can
be
a
metaphor
for
it
or
you
know,
a
miniature
sort
of
representation,
and
so
as
long
as
I
have
kind
of
like
the
sovereignty
to
do
whatever
job
that
I
want
to
in
my
own
way,
which
includes
kind
of
like
thinking
about
it
and,
like
you,
said
the
process,
then
I
feel
like
that
can
fully
be
in
line
with
the
way
that
I
see
the
world.
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I
obviously
wouldn't
think
that
everyone
else
in
the
workshop
would
like
go
off
into
a
corner,
but
you
know
there
might
be
some
kind
of
a
just
weird
cultural
thing
or
like
a
vibe,
where
it's
hard
for
everyone
to
to
work
together.
So
there's
also,
you
know,
I
thought
what
if
I
just
don't
like
working
in
autocad,
I
think
that
I
would.
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Worked
in
blender
before
or
you
know,
whatever
tool
that
it
is
what,
if
it's
not
as
interesting
as
I
think
that
it
will
will
be
but,
like
I
said,
because
I
have
a
way
of
sort
of
integrating
everything
that
I
study
into
a
larger.
You
know,
like
philosophy
that
I
am
interested
in
pursuing.
I
think
that
I
will
be
interested
in
the
stuff
that
I
work
on.
It
might
be
in
my
own
way,
but
I
think
that
my
way
of
doing
things
is
equally
effective
as
the
ordinary
way
of
doing
them.
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Yeah,
I
think
so
like
I,
I
was
interested
enough
in
blender
to
to
do
kind
of
like
the
first
steps,
but
that's
a
good
example.
One
of
the
things
that
I
do
I
have
done
is
like
role
playing
games,
tabletop
role
playing
games.
I
was
actually
also
getting
paid
to
do
it
with
kids
like
two
hours
a
week.
So
an
example
of
how
that
would
work
is.
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You,
you
need
all
the
unimportant
things
and
unimportant
processes
to
to
figure
out
what's
important
and
with
the
idea
of
like
you
could
open
source,
all
technical
knowledge
or
whatever
for
a
billion
dollars.
I
think
that
the
knowledge
that
you
would
need
to
have
it
really
open
source
for
a
billion
people
or
whatever
would
be
the
contributions
of
those
billion
people
either
just
as
consumers
or
as
developers
or
as
users.
I
don't
think
you
can
create
the
you
know.
The
the
knowledge
isn't
separate
from
the
people.
Doing
the
knowing
I
mean.
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That's,
I
think,
like
the
true
collaboration.
Is
you
don't
have
knowledge
that
you
then
open
up
to
people,
but
you
open
up
the
process
so
that
it
can
become
something
worthy
of
like
every
person
that
is
involved
in
the
use
of
it?
I
guess
the
other,
like
really
quick
thing
that
I
will
say
just
related
again
back
to
like
the
the
neurology
I
think
like
in
the
same
way
that
games
and
play
just
like
at
a
locomotive
level.
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And
it's
necessary
for
developing
the
neural
connections
to
escape
from
prey
eventually
or
to
do
these
things
and
I
think,
like
in
the
same
way,
you
can't
separate
important
versus
unimportant
human
activities
when
they
feel
important,
or
they
are
important
to
someone.
I
think,
that's
like
part
of
the
the
data
you
know
part
of
the
the
experiment,
and
you
can't
just
like
dismiss
it
and
focus
on
something
that
fits
more
with
your
view
of
how
everyone
else
should
think
about
what
they
need.
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All
consistent
there,
yeah,
of
course
you
know
I
mean
I
want
to
be
involved
with
this,
to
learn
from
you
and
your
experience.
Having
done
this
for
10
years,
however
long
it
is
like
you've
thought
about
this
particular
aspect
more
thoroughly
than
than
I
have
so
yeah
right.
Just
like
you,
don't
want
to
reinvent
code
or
write
the
same
code.
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Regent
of
agriculture,
you've
got
production,
you've
got
basically
all
the
functions
of
a
settlement,
and
that's
done
in
a
completely
regenerative
way
and
that
can
be
replicated
widely
as
a
new
new
economic
paradigm
for
how
you
produce
and
meet
needs
and
replicating
that
widely
around
the
world.
That's.
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Yeah,
I
have
maybe
a
little
smaller
scale,
not
in
terms
of
a
community,
but
I
did
definitely
think
of
using
the
industrial
processes
on,
for
example,
my
brother's
farm
in
fort
scott.
I
think
like
that
would
be
a
good
kind
of
test
case
and
I
actually
have
talked
to
him
about
turning
that
into
a
place
where
people
could
come
and
learn
about
organic
farming,
which
is
like
what
he's
really
into.
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Competitor
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
fifty
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000,
and
it
surprised
me
that
nobody
started
a
business
doing
this.
I
haven't
because
personally
in
house,
we
haven't
because
we're
been
busy
prototyping
more
stuff
continuously
till
releasing
the
first
products
recently,
but
it's,
I
believe,
a
part
of
it
is
or
maybe.
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And
stories
are
important,
but
I,
I
think
also
just
actual
physical
space
and
location
and
the
things
that
are
nearby
and
the
people
that
are
nearby.
I
mean
that's
the
other
thing
I
guess
you
can
take
from
the
utopias
of
history
and
the
ones
that
kind
of
failed.
Is
it
it's
all
about
like
either
too
much
isolation
or
too
much
influence
from
the
the
larger
culture?
I
don't
know.
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Definitely
creating
your
own
story
is,
is
kind
of
a
part
of
it
and
transforming
the
story
into
a
narrative
that
people
can
both
take
meaning
from
inspiration,
but
then
also
like
practical,
like
like
the
row,
I
guess
is
a
classic
example
welding
pond,
just
very
he
did
good
documentation
kept.
The
exact
record
of
you
know
how
much
he
was
spending
on
stuff,
but
at
the
same
time
it
was
like
a
poetic
education
of
like
why
you
should
live
that
way.
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Framework
people
are
helping
each
other;
they
are
open
at
the
same
time
and
they're
inviting
to
open
open
economically.
They
share
their
enterprise
models
as
well
as
operations,
and
all
of
that
so
so
somebody
in
fact
we
encourage
people
to
beat
us
out
of
business,
because
if
you
do
and
you're
open
well,
if
you
do
and
you
don't
share
first
of
all-
we
know
our
stuff
works
and
it's
awesome
because,
because,
like
these
people
are
kicking
our
ass
and
but
two
if
they
share,
then
it's
like
man.
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Scale,
one
is
where
we
use
all
the
power
that
can
come
from
the
sun
and
then
there's
higher
levels
where
now
you're
starting
to
tap
the
power
of
the
entire
galaxy
and
further.
But
we
are
nowhere
near
even
just
tapping
the
available
energy
that
we
have
to
humans
so
by
first
principles.
Any
kind
of
nay
saying,
oh
the
earth
is
collapsing
and
so
forth
is
is
just
rubbish
by
that
kind
of
first
principles.
Thinking
because
energetically
we
can
recover
in
a
second.
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I
don't
know.
I
I
have
to
kind
of
like
express
a
slightly
different
point
of
view
on
the
idea
that
we
have
the
technology
to
reverse
biodiversity
loss,
because
I
kind
of
don't
think
that
we
do.
I
think
that
it's
sort
of
like
the
burning
of
the
library
of
alexandria,
and
that
the
knowledge
that
the
earth
has
been
accumulating
over
billions
of
years
has
to
be
living
like
it's,
not
yeah.
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It
has
to
be
embedded
in
the
systems
that
it's
actually
like
evolved
within.
You
can't
sort
of
like
extract
it
and
and
or
restore
it
like
if
the
system's
gone.
Then
it's
just
gone.
It's
just
like
a
spoken
language.
If
no
one
speaks
it
anymore,
you're
not
gonna,
bring
it
back
with
the
dictionary.
What.
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I
do
something
that
I
alluded
to
in
the
video
is,
I
see,
similarities
between
scales
a
lot
of
times,
so
the
ecological
and
the
social,
but
also
the
the
neurological-
and
I
was
just
like
listening
to
stuff
about
the
different
hemispheres
in
like
the
left
hemisphere.
You
only
really
think
of
things
that
are
in
front
of
you
like
in
your
view
like.
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Yeah,
you
can
create
the
conditions
for
things
to
evolve
and
to
regrow,
and
but
it's
not
gonna
go
back
to
the
level
of
diversity
that
it
was
before
for
another
million
years.
That's
the
one
thing
you
can't
design
it's
like
time.
You
can't
force
evolution
and
that's
just
I
think,
like
the
the
map
can't
equal
the
territory,
computers
are
never
going
to
be
as
complicated
as
as
biology.
C
That
I
mean
the
fundamental,
the
fundamental
rule,
I
would
say,
is
just
like
entropy
or
the
conservation
of
momentum
or
whatever,
I
think
like.
There's,
probably
a
set
amount
of
information
and
what's
happening
right
now
is
a
very
rapid
transference
of
information
from
the
biological
to
the
digital.
C
C
B
B
E
D
A
B
B
B
B
B
C
You
know
survivor
survivability
because
we
don't
know
what
the
particular
manifestations
of
climate
disruption
are
going
to
be,
but
we
know
that
we're
going
to
have
to
move
rapidly
to
different
areas
and
like
fix
things
that
are
destroyed
by
and
I
guess
yeah
that's
where
I
am
and
have
been
on
board
with
the
larger
project.
I
guess
for
but.
B
B
C
Out
of
competing
forces-
and
I
think,
like
the
what's
evolving-
is
different
ways
of
thinking
about,
like
capital
and
and
resource
and
by
extension,
like
all
of
human
relationships,
because
I
mean
like
that's
to
go
back
to
something.
I
I
apologize
if
this
was
in
like
the
first
video,
so
it's
not
going
to
make
any
sense,
but
the
the
idea
of
like
maybe
why
people
haven't
started,
doing
the
builds
and
making
the
tractor
engines
and
stuff
it's
because
the
kind
I
mean
one
theory
I
have.
This
is
the
way
my
brain
works.
C
I
come
with
a
lot
of
like
hypotheses.
It
could
be
that
the
kind
of
people
that
are
interested
in
this
way
of
thinking
have
probably
made
life
choices
that
don't
end
them
up
with
a
lot
of
money.
So
that's
the
problem
with
money.
Is
it's
supposed
to
be
a
universal
method
of
exchange
where
everyone
can
kind
of
agree
on
the
value,
but
in
reality
it's
the
opposite,
like
money
has
more
variance
of
value
and
stuff
attached
to
it
than
probably
like
any
other
thing
that
we
could
talk
about.
E
C
I
think
that
adds
a
lot
of
stressors
to
the
initial
round
of
getting
to
know
people
and
getting
them
on
board
with
the
process.
Is
you
have
to
get
over
the
initial
hurdle
of
someone
giving
someone
else
money
and
having
that
involve
like
a
level
of
sort
of
like
speculation
about
the
future
and
like
trust
which,
if
we
lived
in
a
society
where
we
didn't
always
have
to
worry
about
maslow's
like
lower
level
hierarchical
needs
than
we
could
just
skip
that
step?
Yeah.
E
C
B
A
C
C
Yes
and
no-
and
maybe
it's
just
because
this
is
how
I'm
seeing
everything
now,
but
I
think
it
does
have
to
do
with
the
hemispheric
thing.
The
way
that
I
think
and
talk
was
absolutely
common
in
in
you
know
every
university
that
I
went
to,
especially
because
I
was
you
know
in
like
the
english
cultural
studies
departments,
so
people
thought
very
innovatively
very
radically,
but
then
they
all
got
jobs
within
academia
and
just
became
professors
or
they,
you
know,
went
into
a
normal
corporate
job.
C
F
C
B
C
C
Was
one
of
the
things
there's
a
fine
line
between
technical
documentation
and
marketing,
the
positive
side
of
that
you
could
say?
If
you
don't
have
marketing
and
just
do
good
technical
documentation,
the
technical
documentation
becomes
its
own
marketing,
but
the
other
side
of
it
is
that
oftentimes
you
skew
the
technical
documentation
in
such
a
way
to
make
them
use
or
think
about
a
product
in
such
a
way
that
constrains
the
value
to
your
ecosystem
and
and
prevents
them
from
seeing
how
they
could
move
their
business
elsewhere.
B
B
E
B
In
the
first
place,
it's
a
called
the
extreme
enterprise
manual.
That's
what
we
want
to
do
the
large
scale
collaborative
development
upon,
but
how
would
you
see
some
specific
properties
that
you
can
immediately
point
to
like?
This
is
a
unique
value
proposition
of
how
I
would
go
about
the
writing.
Here's
x
about
how
I'm
writing
it.
That's
a
unique
value
proposition!
B
B
B
D
C
Let
me
start
with
kind
of
like
a
negative
example
and
then
I'll
try
to
think
of
a
positive
one.
The
one
that
you
you
wouldn't
want
to
do
is
the
bait
and
switch
where
you
quote
a
price,
and
then
you
say
that
that's
what
the
home
is
going
to
cost
and
then
in
reality,
that
was
for
a
version
of
the
home
that
was
different
than
the
one
that
you
put
on
the
cover
or
something
like
that
or
you
know
it's
like
the
classic
thing.
C
If
you're
trying
to
sell
someone,
you
give
them
the
pamphlet
or
whatever
it
is
so
so
they're
actually
holding
it,
and
then
you
can
like
make
it
hard
for
them
to
give
it
back.
So
you
can
do
the
same
thing
with
technical,
technical
documentation
or
any
other
kind
of
writing
where
you
sell
them
on
something
at
the
beginning,
and
then
you
introduce
the
hidden
terms
or,
and
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
I
don't
like
in
terms
of
like
how
you
would
more
positively
express
good
technical
documentation
in
order
to
market
something.
C
B
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
so.
It
sounds
we'd
like
to
get
six
thousand
people.
That's
a
funky
number,
but
I
think
that's
actually
what
it
takes
to
to
do.
This
six
thousand
people
over
three
days
like
tag
team,
24
7,
which
is
a
like
this
huge
compression,
but
I
think
that's
executable,
like
practically
wise
and
product
wise,
but.
C
B
E
C
C
F
C
B
E
C
Non-Fungible
tokens
so
they're
like
things
that
are
created
on
the
ethereum
blockchain,
usually,
and
that
people
can
buy
and
sell
them,
trade
them
just
like
cryptocurrencies,
but
they
represent
like
a
non-fungible
like
a
unique
object.
So
it
can
be
anything
you
could
make.
Like
the
video
that
I
made.
I
could
turn
that
into
an
nft,
and
then
people
could
buy
it
and
sell
it
and
have
an
individual
copy
or
like
a
work
of
art
or
music.
C
Or,
if
not
generate
revenue
put
in
place
the
ideas
and
maybe
like
business
plan
necessary
to
generate
revenue
after
the
six
months,
because
that
was
kind
of
like
the
thing
that
I
was
dealing
with
is
I'll
have
to
spend
the
time
learning
these
things
and
then
also
that
time
trying
to
set
up
the
next
step,
whether
it's
like
looking
for
a
job
or
or
figuring
that
out.
So
I
mean
I
understand
like.
Ideally,
it
would
form
its
own
like
enterprises
with
the
things
that
you
learn.
B
B
F
C
C
D
C
E
C
B
A
E
D
C
The
value
proposition
I
mean
it
seems
you're
not
selling
the
plans
for
the
eco-home,
because
those
are
going
to
be
open
source.
What
you're
selling
is
the
experience
of
learning,
how
to
understand
the
plans
well
enough
to
implement
them
and
get
the
hands-on
experience
working
with
other
people
who
are
doing
the
same
thing,
which
you
can't
get
online
or
through
documentation?
No
matter
how
good
it
is
like.
There's.
F
A
B
B
C
B
B
E
C
C
B
B
E
D
B
C
Yeah,
that
makes
sense,
and
it
does
say
something
that
you
have
the
option
where
it's
the
thousand
dollars
and
then
you
would
work
later
on
to
to
repay
the
money.
If
you
make
that
as
one
of
the
options,
you
know
that
that
says
to
someone
that
you
do
believe
that
it
does
have
the
the
potential
to
be
monetized
yeah
yeah,
but
your
in
order
for
the
six
thousand
dollars
to
really
be
valuable
for
the
people
going
through
the
apprenticeship.
B
C
E
B
B
E
B
B
A
C
B
C
B
B
A
E
B
F
B
F
B
B
C
E
A
B
F
D
B
B
B
B
C
Kind
of
make
it
into
a
metaphor
again,
and
that's
just
how
my
my
brain
works
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
this
project
is
because
it
does
like,
I
said,
before,
integrate
all
levels,
so
you're
working
on
something
and
just
a
metaphor.
But
it's
the
thing
that
itself-
and
I
usually
don't
have
that
I
mean
like
it's
usually
one
of
the
other
but
like
to
sell
people.
C
You
you
make
it
as
open
to
further
variation
mutation,
whatever
is
possible,
so
the
metaphor
for
that
would
be
like
you're
trying
to
create
social
structures.
In
the
same
way
that
you're
creating
physical
structures,
so
I
think,
like
bringing
people
into
the
project,
you
have
to
have
the
same
kind
of
attitude
of
adaptability
where
we
don't
know.
What's
going
to
be
valuable
or
what's
going
to
be
important
about
this
particular
landscape
or
configuration
going
in
and
it's
not
going
to
be
a
one
size
fits
all.
C
And
I
guess
that's
all
that
I
was
getting
at
with
the
idea
of
allowing
them
to
have
some
sort
of
side
project,
because
they
might
be
able
to
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
having
a
little
bit
of
a
side
income
while
they're,
giving
all
this
money
to
learn
new
things.
But
at
the
same
time
the
the
organization
could
learn
from
them.
Watching
them
do
something
that
that
they
would
normally
do
as
as
a
way
of
income.
And
so
maybe
that
has
some
sort
of
use
that
that
person
didn't
think
of
it.
C
B
Already
have
the
construction
set,
we're
not
the
the
rosebud
model,
it's
a
model.
That's
a
fully
developed
thing
that
we're
building
right
now,
but
we
that's
not
what
we
designed.
We
designed
a
construction
set
so
already
in
it
is
a
it's
a
graphical
thing
which,
like
40
different
configurations,
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
to
fit
various
kinds
of
purposes.
So
that's
that's.
C
B
A
A
C
Yeah,
so
that
was
only
the
half
of
the
metaphor
to
get
with
the
flexibility
of
a
program
like
the
apprenticeship,
because,
rather
than
having
like
thousands
of
different
configurations
and
models,
you
had
like
three.
Where
there's
like
the
full
price,
then
the
the
discount
price
and
the
repayment
price,
and
what
I'm
saying
is
like
there
can
be
as
many
different
configurations
of
that
sort
of
structure.
C
C
People
have
different
landscapes
of
their
lives,
both
in
terms
of
money
and
income
and
things
that
they
need
to
do,
but
also
just
how
they
think
of
themselves
and
how
they
think
about
their
place
in
the
world
and
so
like.
It
needs
to
be
an
exchange
where
you
work
that
into
the
design
documents.
I
guess
somehow,
not
of
not
the
actual
ones
where
the
things
that
you
build,
but
like
the
social
like
you're,
saying
the
tribe
that
you're
kind
of
building
like
there's
a
sort
of
like
social
technology.
B
C
B
B
E
E
E
C
A
C
A
C
No
I'm
saying
when
the
six
month
period
starts.
That
can
be
the
the
the
point.
It
would
well
a
little
bit
before
it.
That
could
be
the
point
at
which
we
decide
if
I
was
just
helping
you
out
for
the
month
to
get
ready
for
it
and
share
some
interesting
ideas
or
if
I
would
stick
around
for
the
six
months
and
then
we
could
sort
of
renegotiate
terms.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying.
B
B
B
B
C
C
All
in
terms
I
mean-
I
guess
you
probably
know
more
than
I
do
if
I
could
do
the
build
work
as
you
describe
it
like.
I
have
just
like
general
knowledge.
If
it's
physical
labor,
I
could
definitely
do
it
if
it's
something
that
requires
a
lot
of
technical
knowledge,
maybe
not
a
little
technical
knowledge.
I
could
probably
learn
it
pretty
quickly
and
be
useful
to
you,
but
I
don't
know.
C
B
C
I
don't
know
what
the
the
situation
was,
but
when
I
was
talking
about
like
side
projects
to
to
make
money,
I
I
was
thinking
of
my
own
case,
because
I
could
keep
doing
like
english
lessons,
for
example,
to
help
offset
the
cost,
but
probably
not
if
it
was
like
a
full-time.
You
know
eight
to
five
kind
of
thing.
B
B
D
B
E
C
F
B
C
A
C
B
C
E
D
B
C
I
was
thinking
about
it
as
a
as
not
committing
to
the
program,
but
if
that's
how
you
would
want
to
do
it,
then
I
would
be
okay
with
that,
if
you
just
want
to
like
figure
out
the
arrangements
up
front,
but
I
was
just
thinking
it
would
give
you
a
little
time
to
know
what
you
know
the
kind
of
work
that
I
would
I
would
do.
I.
B
E
E
A
B
A
B
D
B
F
F
E
C
E
C
B
E
B
E
A
A
B
B
C
B
Yeah,
the
assumption
is
that
we're
we're
kind
of
starting
from
scratch.
Like
literally
it's
like
a
person,
that's
got
the
the
motivation
to
learn
this
and
then
then
we're
saying:
okay,
here's
here's
the
water
hose,
learn
it
well.
The
thing
is
it's
like
we're
all
helping
each
other
learning
and
and
repeating
just
constant
repeating
of.