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From YouTube: KBE Insider Detroit - Beckie Riss, Ford Motor Company
Description
KBE Insider interviews Beckie Riss, Principal Architect, Developer Relations, Tools & Enablement at the Ford Motor Company, about the cloud native transformation she’s involved with and the importance of DevRel at the Ford Motor Company. Beckie also shares how the Ford Motor Company uses KBE to help upskill their software development teams!
KBE Insider is hosted by Langdon White, Clinical Assistant Professor of Computing and Data Sciences at Boston University. We take the KBE Insider series on the road while in Detroit for KubeCon North America 2022. Thank you Ford Motor Company for lending us the Ford Mustang Mach-E!
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So,
okay,
we're
just
enjoying
road
trips,
exactly
Yeah,
we
actually
kind
of
tricked
out
the
minivan
with
like
a
big
like
like
battery
and
everything
so
that,
because
I
would
just
we'd
have
to
go
to
like
all
day
for
like
a
soccer
game
or
something
I'd
just
go
there
and
work
all
day.
You
know
from
the
back
of
the
minivan.
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Right
right
it
was
it
was
it
was
entertaining,
and
so
why
don't
we
talk
about?
You
know
kind
of
why
we're
here,
which
is
you
know,
so
you've
been
working
with
your
team
to
kind
of
integrate
kubernetes
more
as
a
as
an
option.
Why
don't
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
like
you
know?
Why
are
you
doing
that.
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But
I
also
have
teams
who
curate
different
platform
products
ecosystems
to
help
accelerate
our
developers
at
the
broader
company,
be
able
to
deliver
software
much
more
quickly.
So
one
such
team
is
our
cast
team
container
as
a
service
team,
and
they
really
have
been
doing
a
lot
over
the
last
few
years
in
identifying.
You
know
how
to
stitch
together
the
various
tools
and
how
to
educate
our
developers
as
we
onboard
them
and
as
they
kind
of
grow
in
their
maturity
right.
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Be
more
impactful
yeah
when,
when
I
was
in
Consulting,
one
of
the
like,
we
kind
of
had
two
big
offerings
that
we
did,
but
one
of
them
was
you
know,
platform,
you
know
portfolio
reviews
and
you
know
so
we'd
go
to
Mont.
You
know
big
companies
like
Pfizer,
like
in
a
division
right
and
try
to
try
to
do
exactly
what
you're
describing
and
you
know
we
had
the
advantage
of
being
a
third
party
right.
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Right
so
yeah,
that's
yeah,
that's
definitely
interesting.
The
I
mean
you
were
saying
particularly
you're
concerned
about
security
and,
like
not
so
much
the
security
itself
as
much
as
making
sure
that
developers
are
aware
of
security
and
the
security
risks
that
are
kind
of
new
and
different
about
doing
something
in
you
know
kind
of
kubernetes
you
what
what's
been
your
experience
there.
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In
that
you
know
you,
you
need
to
properly
understand
security
as
just
a
regular
engineer,
because
all
those
little
tiny
decisions
you
make
actually
often
have
a
pretty
strong
security
impact
yeah
and
it's
definitely
changing.
You
know
we're
doing
a
lot
more.
You
know
secure
by
default
kind
of
you
know
deployments
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
it's
getting
better,
but
I
can
definitely
appreciate
that.
That's
a
that's
a
big.
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It's
a
it's.
It's
funny
like
I,
always
joke
about
myself
that
I'm
a
you
know,
I'm
a
true
developer,
so
I
don't
care
about
security.
I!
Don't
care
about,
like
you
know,
uptime
any
of
that
stuff.
You
know,
but
you
know
in
fact,
because
I
teach
it
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
production
stuff
and
in
fact
it
is
really
important
to
you
know.
Testing
is
ridiculously
important.
You
know.
Security
is
ridiculously
important
because
the
impact,
especially
when
you're
doing
certain
kinds
of
software,
the
impact
can
be.
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B
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A
Are
the
one
of
the
major
strengths
of
all
of
our
products
right
is
the
fact
that
people
trust
redheads,
you
know,
and
so
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
break
any
part
of
that
and
it
can
be.
It
can
be
really
difficult
because
you
know
when
you're
you
know,
at
least
for
me
right
when
you're
down
deep,
you
know,
building
something
it
can
be
difficult
to.
Remember
the.
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B
Cube
by
example
yeah,
so
we
have,
you,
know,
been
using
and
moving
toward
our
Cloud
native
vision
for
many
years
before
kbe
was
kind
of
a
thing
yeah
and
we've
used
various
training
sources
to
kind
of
upskill.
What
I
love
most
about
kbe
now
is
it's
something
that
is
community
kind
of
curated
relevant
examples,
and
now
we
can
use
it
to
point
our
team
to
instead
of
kind
of
creating
our
own.
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Right
reputation
right
well
and
I
mean
you
know
the
reason
you
know
communities
are
are
good
right.
It's,
like
you
know,
I.
Keep
talking
about
this
in
these
interviews.
Right
is
that
you
also
get
lots
of
different
perspectives
right.
So
you
know
we
you're
not.
You
know
there
is
a
Ford
mindset
right,
like
you
know,
there
is
right.
So
having
you
know,
something
that's
out
in
public
makes
it
so
that
you
can.
You
know
whether
the
Ford
mindset
is
a
good
one
or
a
bad
one.
A
It's
kind
of
doesn't
matter,
there's
always
different
perspectives,
so
the
more
people
you
can
kind
of
involve
in
a
conversation
about
how
you're
approaching
problems
and
things
like
that,
the
better
a
job
you
can
usually
do
yeah,
you
know
so
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
you
know,
kind
of
community
delivered
stuff,
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
Wonder
If
you
experience
is
like
in
in
my
life,
as
you
know,
I'll
get
students
who
want
to
say
who
will
say
you
know
hey.
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A
It's
really
really
hard
and
you
know
in
making
those
things
accessible.
You
know,
especially
when
you
talk
about
you,
know
rolling
out
tooling,
making
that
accessible
to
your
to
people
who've
never
been
presented
it
before
again,
it's
like
you,
you
and
whoever
it
else.
You
know
helped
build
it.
You
have
your
own
mindset,
so
you
have
this
like
this
preconceived
notion
of
how
things
work,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
it
it's
all
very
intuitive,
but
then
somebody
else
looks
at
it
and
they're
like.
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B
That's
been
interesting
when
I,
when
some
of
our
people,
if
they're
having
difficulties
they'll,
come
to
our
team
and
ask
specific
questions
like
how
do
I
do
this?
One
thing
and
I
encourage
my
team
to
ask
bigger
questions
like
expand
it.
What
is
the
problem
you're
trying
to
solve
right?
Don't
assume
that
that
if
you
educate
them
on
answering
that
one
question
it's
going
to
solve
their
problem
because
it's
unlikely
too
right.
A
B
A
Course
how
you
do
it
yeah
one
of
one
of
the
big
things
I've
found
kind
of
in
my
career
is
like
when
somebody
asks
a
question
you
really
want
to
think
about.
Where
did
they
get
this
question
from
you
know
and
then-
and
you
know,
try
to
extrapolate
from
that
and
then
what
do
you
know
about?
What
they're
trying
to
do
you
know
or
ask
right
and
and
make
sure
they're
kind
of
aligned?
You
know
doing
Dev
advocacy.
That
was
a
big
part
of
it.
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B
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B
A
At
the
same
time,
you've
got
to
find
a
way
that
you
can
make
the
people
available.
You
know
this
is.
This
is
why
it
really
annoys
me
when,
when
nobody
uses
office
hours,
you
know
it's
like
right.
This
is
the
best
way.
I
can
give
you
this
and
still
do
my
stuff,
but
the
problem
is
the
office.
Hours
are
rarely
lined
up
for
when
exactly
I
have
a
problem.
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A
B
Whatever
you
need
to
do
to
focus
yeah
and
make
it
known
like
through
ever
whatever
kind
of
notification
that
you
have
at
your
fingertips
to
say
you
know:
I'm
I'm,
working
on
this
I'll
be
available
at
12
or
12
30
or
whatever
the
you
know,
whenever
you're
kind
of
coming
up
for
air
and
that
that
sometimes
works,
but
usually
what
that
does.
Is
it
says,
oh
he's
not
available.
Let
me
go
to
this
person
and.
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A
One
of
the
things
is
that
I've
kind
of
really
missed
about.
You
know
like
there's
a
lot
of
old
school
internet
people
right
and
there
were
a
lot
of
like
social
norms
that
were
really
important,
and
it's
really
funny.
I
I
never
heard
this
until
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
they
called
it.
They
call
it
now
endless
September
because
it
used
to
be
in
the
early
days,
the
internet,
every
September.
A
You
got
a
whole
brand
new
set
of
users
of
the
internet
because
they
went
to
college,
and
so
you
could
train
them
in
all
the
like
social
norms
and
I.
Even
remember
doing
this,
like
email
training
thing
that
somebody
had
built,
you
know
and
I
just
kind
of
signed
up
for
it
and
I
learned
about
how
to
use
the
internet
right
and
but
one
of
the
things
that
was
huge
about
IRC
right.
A
The
Internet
relay
chat
is
that
you
could
put
you
could
put
whatever
you
wanted
out
there
as
like
a
question
or
whatever,
and
there
was
no
expectation
that
the
person
on
the
other
end
would
immediately
respond
right
and
what's
changed,
I
think
because
of
like
text
messaging
primarily,
you
know
is
now
we
have
this
expectation
in
things
like
slack
or
you
know
all
these
other
tools
that
if
you're
there
you
will
instantly
respond,
and
it's
really
it's
really
unfortunate
I
think
that
we've
lost
a
lot
of
these.
You
know
original
kind
of
norms.
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B
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A
You
know
it's
it's
one
of
the
things
I've
I've
seen
so
many
times
now
in
my
like,
you
know
technical
career
of
just
you
know
various
Technologies.
You
know
swinging
all
the
way
to
one
side
and
all
the
way
back
to
the
other
yeah.
So
yeah,
no
I
totally
agree
with
you
and
what
I?
What
I
suspect
is
right.
There's
some
happy
medium
in
there
that
you
know
we
haven't
discovered
yet.
A
B
So
it's
been
pretty
good,
so
I
got
here
for
the
Keynotes
this
morning
and
I
attended
two
sessions
so
far
and
I'm
getting
value
out
of
those.
So
this
is
my
first
cubicon
event
I'm,
so
excited
that
Detroit
is
hosting
it
like
yeah
I.
Don't
think
that
the
tech
World
understands
what
and
what
a
big
technology
base
we
have
in
Michigan
and
the
kind
of
evolution
of
the
auto
manufacturers
being
based
here
with
all
of
that
kind
of
foundational,
core
engineering
and.
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B
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B
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B
I'm,
just
it's
a
passion
that
I
have
to
show
that
this
is
a
very
lucrative
and
rewarding
career
path.
That
often
girls
are
disheartened
to
pay
attention
to
right.
So
I'd
love
to
be
part
of
that
Community
to
help
Foster
that
and
grow
and
develop
and
I
Mentor
a
ton
of
a
ton
of
people.
Whoever
asks
me
because
there's
so
few
women
in
leadership
right
in
you
know
tech
companies
and
Tech
positions.
So
anytime
someone
asks
me,
would
you
be
my
mentor?
A
Whatever
conversations
like
this
come
up,
I
I
bring
this
up
a
lot,
but
there
was
a
an
article
in
Cosmopolitan
magazine
in
1979
about
why
women
should
become
programmers
and
how
it
was
just
like
running
a
dinner
party
and
I.
Think
it's
so
interesting
right,
because
in
a
lot
of
ways
it's
a
hundred
percent
right
on
right
is
like
you
basically
have
to
give.
You
know
we
want
to
be
a
programmer.
It
means
you
give
very
detailed
instructions
right,
and
so
you
got
to
think
about
all
the
little
details.
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A
You
know,
and-
and
it
was
such
a
great
article-
and
you
know-
and
the
fact
that
it
was
in
Cosmopolitan
magazine
right-
is
also
particularly
interesting
and
you
know,
and
then
what
happened
right
so
I
I
definitely
agree
with
you.
You
know
I
kind
of
say
you
know,
part
of
the
reason
I
joined
Boston
University
is
to
try
to
make
it
so
that
less
people
who
look
like
me
are
in
my
field
or
there's
more
people
who
don't
look
like
me
in.
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B
B
A
I,
remember:
we
were
at
a
company,
it
was
like
30
or
40
people,
so
not
I
mean
not.
It
was
big,
but
it
had
very,
very
few
women,
but
we
had
inordinately
large
bathrooms
and
I
still
so.
I
became
really
good
friends
with
one
of
the
women
and
she
was
like
yeah.
We
all
kind
of
had
this
Collective
angry
moment
where
we
hired
such
and
such,
and
that
meant
we
didn't
all,
have
our
individual
stalls
anymore
and
I
was
like.
Oh
that's
such
a
weird
experience.
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A
It
wasn't
inordinately
large
bathroom,
so
it
was
so.
It
was
a
little
bit
better,
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
not
a
great
ratio.
Yeah
we
had
the
added
difficulty
of
it
was
also
Consulting,
and
so
you
know
they're
10,
at
least
in
my
experience.
There
tends
to
be
less
women
in
Consulting,
because
it's
also
yeah
Insanity
yeah.
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A
Oh
yeah
yeah,
that's
interesting
yeah.
My
wife
actually
really
appreciated
when
I,
because
I
used
to
travel
as
a
consultant,
I
was
mostly
a
fixer,
so
it'd
be
like
on
Monday
I
find
out
what
I
was
supposed
to
be
on
Tuesday
and
you
know,
but
I'd
only
be
gone
for,
like
maybe
two
or
three
days,
so
in
some
ways,
I
didn't
travel.
That
much
like
I
wasn't
like
on
the
road
all
the
time,
but
what
she
really
liked
was
I
switched
to
being
like
more
like
developer
advocacy.
A
I
had
a
well
planned
and
I'd
be
gone
for
like
a
week
or
a
week
and
a
half,
and
so
they
could
have
a
new
schedule
right.
You
know,
rather
than
me,
just
kind
of
you
know
disappearing
and
then
being
back
again,
so
that
was
always.
That
was
a
really
interesting
moment
for
me.
You
know.
On
the
flip
side,
she
you
know
we
often
joke
that
she
married
a
consultant
and
so
periodically
she's
like
don't
you
have
like
a
conference
or
something
to
go
to
like.
Could
you
go
away
for?
Oh.
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A
My
it's
funny
too,
because
my
parents
have
spent
a
significant
amount
of
their
time
while
they've
been
married
like
apart,
because
they
both
work
in
Academia
and
so
and
you
know,
basically,
you
go
where
the
job
is
right,
and
so
you
know
they
were
bouncing
around
a
little
bit
and
yeah
I
can't
believe
how
much
it
I
feel
like
it's
it
in
my
head
right,
it's
like
normal,
because
it
was
my
parents
right,
but
then
I
kind
of
look
at
it
from
like
the
outside
and
I'm
like.
Oh,
no,
that's
that's.
A
B
B
A
Although
I
did
ride
the
People
Mover,
oh
yeah,
so
that
was
fun
yeah
because,
like
when
I
when
I
first
saw
it
because
there's
just
a
sign
in
the
hotel
that
says
you
know,
people
move
her
this
way
and
I
like
I,
actually
asked
one
of
the
employees.
I
was
like
so
where
and
what
is
a
people
mover
and
then
she
goes
back
to
me.
She
goes
well
it's
this
thing
that
moves
people
and
I'm
like
thanks
thanks
I,
suppose
I
deserve
that.