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Earlier this year Rob sat down with Carol Moore to talk about Burlington College
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A
Kerala
euonymus
are
participate
in
Carol
mourns,
the
president
of
Burlington
College,
on
which
is
a
planet's
first
partner
in
higher
education
and
wanted
to
arm.
You
know
thank
you
for
participating,
and
also
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
Burlington
College
and
the
programs
that
you
have
geared
towards.
You
know
producing
you
know
self-designed
degrees
and
producing
programs.
B
Well,
thank
you.
Rob
for
the
introduction
and
I
appreciate
your
presentation
to
help
guide
students
to
get
the
best
education
at
the
the
lowest
potential
cost
and
I'm
happy
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
Burlington
College.
It
was
founded
just
a
little
over
40
years
ago.
It
was
founded
in
response
to
community
needs.
B
But
that
said,
I
want
to
focus
on
cost
and
on
our
individualized
undergraduate
degree,
students
can
come
and
design
their
own
major,
which
means
that
they
take
most
of
the
general
education
in
writing:
creative
arts,
historical
perspective,
science,
math
culture,
etc,
and
then
they
design
their
own
individual
major.
They
can
double
major
if
they
choose,
or
they
can
take
a
major
with
one
or
two
minors.
B
We
do
encourage
students
to
do
an
interdisciplinary
work,
but
it's
up
to
them
with
a
faculty
guide
to
design
their
own
major.
Some
of
the
majors
that
have
been
popular
in
the
past
are
areas
like
art
and
social
change,
media
activism,
environmental
science,
literature,
media
and
social
justice
of
philosophy,
sustainable
studies,
etc.
The
list
is
quite
long
as
a
student
can
design
their
own
in
basically
any
field.
They
choose.
A
B
The
college
decide
that,
as
a
first
year,
student
entered
on
that
that
year's
tuition
would
remain
with
that
student
throughout
their
four
years,
so
there
would
be
no
increase
in
tuition
when
they
got
into
their
sophomore
junior
or
senior
year.
In
addition,
for
the
last
two
years,
we've
actually
frozen
the
tuition,
so
this
fall.
For
example,
students
will
actually
pay
tuition
that
was
established
in
2013,
so.
B
Right
and
in
addition,
then,
the
student
saves
a
significant
percentage
as
they
go
through
the
four
years,
because
their
tuition
is
fixed
at
what
every
year
they
enter.
In
addition,
the
college
has
put
approximately
a
half
a
million
dollars
into
scholarships
for
individuals
in
in
various
areas
and
and
of
course
they
can
get
their
pell
grants
before
taking
you
know
alone,
you
mentioned
rob
the
cost
of
room
and
board,
which
is
significant.
At
many
institutions,
burlington
has
chosen
to
go
a
different
route.
B
We
have
housing
primarily
in
the
burlington
community,
more
apartment
style
living,
so
students
prepare
their
own
meals,
which
generally
saves
them
a
significant
amount
of
money
as
compared
to
a
meal
plan
at
a
traditional
college,
and
we
also
price
our
housing
at
cost
to
the
college.
Most
institutions
make
surplus
on
the
the
housing
costs,
but
we
chose
not
to
do
that.
B
So
students
save
considerable
amount
there
as
well,
and
also,
as
you
mentioned,
all
of
our
students
actually
must
have
an
internship
and
can
have
up
to
three
and
we
try
to
help
them
identify
a
paid
internship
so
that
they're
earning
credits,
earning
experience
in
their
field
and
also
making
some
money
to
pay
for
their
education
and
look
I'm.
Sorry
go
ahead,
robb
so.
A
You
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
really
impressed
with
relative
colleges
about
the
evaluation
in
the
transfer
on
credit
policies
that
you
all
have
Carol,
because
it's
you
know
it's
it's
really
good.
So
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
And
and
do
you
see,
students
taking
advantage
of
sort
of
being
able
to
you
know
Burlington
College,
being
the
hub
of
their
education
where
they're
getting
me
advising
where
they're
getting
a
lot
of
the
specialized
classes
that
they
need?
A
B
We
accept
transfer
students
with
associate's
degrees,
so
we
take
60
to
65
credits,
and
actually
we
will
take
as
many
as
90
transfer
credits.
They
may
not
all
transfer
in
the
exact
field
that
a
student
may
want
to
pursue,
but
they
are
transferred
at
least
as
elective
credits.
So
we
have
pretty
liberal
transfer
policies
and
we
try
and
recruit
many
students
from
community
colleges.
B
You
know
two
years
state
colleges
where,
as
you
mentioned
before,
they
can
earn
an
associate's
degree
at
a
bit
lower
cost
and
then
transfer
into
burlington
and
additionally
any
student,
whether
they
start
you
know
you're
one
or
whether
they
start.
Let's
say
at
the
junior
level,
they
can
apply
for
up
to
12
credits
of
life
experience
and
and
we'll
take
those
credits
as
well.
So
a
student
can
really
transfer
quite
a
bit
into
the
college
and
complete
their
degree,
so
they
have
a
lot
of
opportunities.
B
We
also
are
very
sensitive,
since
many
of
our
students
are
actually
almost
all
of
our
students
work
and
some
of
them
work
almost
full
time.
We
schedule
our
classes
in
blocks
of
two
and
three
hours
so
that
a
student
can
schedule
work
around
those
blocks
of
time
and
our
our
faculty
are
again
sensitive
to
this
and
and
try
to
connect
students
out
into
the
community
in
their
field
of
study
so
that
they
get
a
double
benefit
of.
You
know,
working
and
making
some
money,
but
also
getting
some
experience
in
their
in
their
chosen
field.
B
A
If
what
sort
of
advice
arm
would
you
give
to
a
student
in
terms
of
the
different
factors
to
balance
when
they're
starting
to
look
at
colleges,
because
you
know
very
soon,
were
you
know
the
fall
arrives
and
for
you
know,
juniors
and
seniors
in
high
school
their
arm,
starting
to
take
a
look
at
the
college's,
but
also
you
know,
that's
one
potential
segment
of
people
who,
you
know
will
come
to
you
know,
engage
in
higher
education.
A
So
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
they
balance
and
then,
if
you
would
on
what
factor
should
a
non-traditional
student?
So
a
student
who
you
know
might
be
you
know
a
caregiver
on
taking
care
of
children
or
taking
care
of
an
elderly
parent
or
some
member
of
the
community?
What
sort
of
factors
should
they
be?
Looking
at
when
they're
trying
to
figure
out
what
higher
adoption
is
going
to
be
best
for
them?
I.
B
Think
if
you're
looking
at
a
more
traditional
age
student,
you
know
up
to
you,
know
they're
in
their
20s
or
teens
I
think
they're
there.
They
may
be
looking
for
a
full
college
experience,
so
they
do
want
to
have
sort
of
a
social
life.
If
you
will,
they
may
want
to
live
on
campus
and
get
that
experience.
B
So
those
are
some
factors.
But
to
me
the
most
important
factors
are
the
values
of
the
institution,
because
education
is
not
value.
Free,
every
institution
has
its
own
culture.
It
has
its
own
values
and
I.
Think
it's
very
important
for
a
student
to
understand
what
that
culture
and
what
those
values
are
to
see.
If
it's
going
to
be
a
good
fit,
and
they
also
need
to
look
at
okay,
what
is
the
highest
quality?
B
I
can
get
for
the
lowest
price
and-
and
there
you
know,
that's
very
individualized-
to
determine,
and
these
days
you
know
I
would
say
that
student
should
be
looking
for
experienced
built
into
their
education,
because
the
job
market
is
competitive
and
you
go
to
employers
and
they
want
some
experience
and
if
you
can
show
them
a
resume
where
you've
had
three
internships-
and
you
have
three
letters
of
reference
from
the
internship
placement,
then
you
have
a
leg
up
and
you
know
of
that
that
whole
issue
of
fit
and
culture
and
values
getting
the
highest
quality
education
for
the
lowest
cost,
and
making
sure
that
that
education
is
going
to
prepare
you
to
get
that
first.
A
And
I
think
that
only
is
going
to
happen
if
students
have
much
more
control
over
their
education
and
you
know
Burlington
College,
you
know
what
you
all
are
doing.
You
know
you're
placing
students
at
the
center,
because
you
know
you
do
have
the
the
student
plans
on
the
ways
in
which
they're
evaluated
and
also
the
fact
they
have
so
much
input
into
their
program
arm
and
I.
Think
it's
at
a
much
higher
level
than
happens
it
at
most
institutions
of
higher
edwar.
A
You
know,
there's
the
that
high
touch
and
where
you're
working
with
students
to
create
it,
and
that
sort
of
that
is
you
know
the
legacy
of
of
when
Burlington
College
was
started,
but
that's
also
the
cornerstone
of
21st
century
education,
which
has
to
do
with
customization,
high-touch
and
arm
flexibility,
and
so
long
as
the
standards
are
rigorous
on
everything
is
it.
You
know,
works
out
really
really
well
and
that's
what
Dom
that's
what
you
all
are
doing
in
life.
It.
B
It
really
is
because
day
one
students
come
into
class
and
the
first
thing
they
do
is
work
with
their
classmates
and
their
instructor
to
set
their
own
personal
learning
goals
for
that
particular
class
and
that
actually
goes
into
their
file
and
at
the
end
of
the
year
or
the
end
of
the
semester.
Actually,
you
know
the
faculty
member
goes
back
and
sits
with
students
individually
and
says.
Well,
you
know,
did
you
meet
these
goals?
What
what
did
you
learn
and
did
you
accomplish
what
you
set
out
to
accomplish,
so
students
really
must
be
engaged.
B
A
We've
got
a
question
from
the
audience
which
is:
do
you
still
armed?
B
But
yeah-
and
the
answer
is
yes:
we
still
do.
There
are
two
options.
Student
students
can
spend
a
semester
at
the
University
of
Havana,
where
they
can
opt
to
take
a
trip
and
most
of
the
trips
are
one
week.
There
are
a
couple
that
are
two
weeks,
but
they
can
go
on
a
variety
of
trips
and
we
offer
them
in
fields
such
as
you
know.
Legal
studies
teacher
at
you
know:
education,
agriculture,
business
areas
such
as
those
there's
another
one,
that's
quite
popular
as
a
street
photography
in
Havana.
A
B
A
You
know,
cuba
also
has
you
know
incredible
contacts
in
latin
america
and
africa
and
to
see
how
that
you
know
that
expands
with
the
opportunities
that
you
know,
since
you
guys,
you
know,
were,
I
think,
one
of
the
only
ones
who
you
know
were
able
to
arm
head
and
do
educational
trips
between
in
exchanges
between
the
US
and
and
cuba.
So
that's
that's.
Pretty
amazing.
Yeah.
B
And
our
faculty
are
very
in
tune
to
the
educational
value
of
trips
in
general,
so,
for
instance,
our
films
studies,
students
go
to
Lake
Placid
for
film
festival,
they'll
go
out
to
Sundance,
which
of
course
is
a
famous
film
festival,
and
this
year
we
may
actually
have
a
trip
to
Cuba
for
their
film
festival.
Our
fine
arts
people
go
to
New
York.
Two
years
ago
they
went
to
Berlin
because
our
faculty
member
was
doing
her
own
show
in
in
Berlin.
So
the
faculty
really
tried
to
get
students.
A
A
You
you
are
also
accredited
by
me:
ask
England
Association
of
schools
and
colleges,
and
so
on
the
issue
of
transferring
your
credits.
Those
credits
earned
in
those
those
classes
to
another
institution
is
in
many
ways
a
whole
lot
easier
than
it
would
be
to
transfer
those
credits
if
you
were
with
a
planner.
Yes,.
B
B
A
B
Do
that
we
have,
in
addition
to
the
individualized
undergraduate
program,
we
have
an
individualized
master's
program,
it's
a
new
program,
it's
only
two
years
old,
but
it
works
on
the
same
premise.
B
Students
apply
and
they
sit
with
a
faculty
advisor
to
map
out
a
course
of
study,
and
then
we
recruit
faculty
either
in
the
area
or
at
some
distance
who's,
an
expert
in
the
field
or
feels
that
the
student
wants
to
study
and
we
connect
them.
They
come
to
the
college
for
a
low
residency
to
start
them
off,
and
then
they
work
individually
with
the
faculty
members
that
we
assign
them.
So,
interestingly,
we
had
a
student
graduate
last
year
in
aeronautical
engineering.
B
A
Flexibility
of
being
able
to
do
a
self-designed
masters
program
with
experts,
so
that
you
get
your
arm
the
kind
of
learning
and
educational
experience
that
you
want.
That's
really
really
exciting
and
again
it's
one
of
the
few
places
in
the
US
and
I
would
suspect
the
world
that
has
on
the
systems
in
place
to
create
that
type
of
flexible
program
arm,
and
you
know
we're
really
excited
to
be
working
with
Burlington
colleges.
B
Absolutely
we're
very
excited
about
our
partnership
with
a
player,
no
because
this
opens
up
a
whole
repertoire
of
experts
to
our
students,
both
undergraduates
and
graduates,
and
a
much
broader
array
of
course
offerings.
Then
a
small
college
can
provide,
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do
is
give
our
students
of
a
full
array
of
opportunities
to
pick
and
choose
what
they
want
to
study
and
with
whom
yep.