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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee - 4 November 2021
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A
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
listed
as
item
two
and
three
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submission
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendment
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
A
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
recipient
of
the
application
for
zoning
120
days
for
an
official
planned
amendment
to
submit
written
comment
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
city
council
on
november
10th,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
council
coordinator
so
like
to
welcome
all
of
you
to
our
our
meeting
this
morning,
mr
clerk
and
we
have
roll
call
please.
Yes,
mr
chair
counselor,.
A
A
Thank
you
so
we'll
go
through
the
agenda.
We,
we
have
three
items
on
the
agenda
item
number:
one
is
public
works
and
environmental
service
department,
parts,
forestry
and
stormwater
service
item
number
one
amendment
to
the
engineers
report
for
the
east
service
municipal
drain,
and
I
believe
we
have
a
gentleman
who
will
be
speaking
on
this
item,
so
we're
going
to
hold
this
item.
A
A
D
Just
a
quick
question
for
for
the
applicant,
if
I,
if
I
could
go
ahead,
get
customer
all
right
thanks.
So
it's
it's.
I
appreciate
the
the
applicant
addressing
concerns
that
were
raised
by
the
community
in
terms
of
lot
coverage,
understanding
that
that
the
lot
coverage
for
for
the
bungalow
towns
was
necessary
in
order
to
achieve
that
type
of
that
type
of
home
model,
but
just
a
question
about
design.
So,
obviously
I
think
this
is
a
there's.
D
A
long
history
to
mentos,
community,
mantic
and
design
features
and
elements
were
a
key
part
of
that
discussion
from
the
start,
going
back
to
2008
and
through
the
the
omb
process
and,
of
course,
phase.
One
of
the
development
is,
quite
you
know
quite
important
in
terms
of
its
design
and
how
everything
sort
of
you
know
doesn't
necessarily
match
one
another
and
it's
it's
quite
a
very
village
feel
to
the
development.
E
E
There
are
several
designs
house
designs
that
are
available
to
homeowners
for
purchase,
and
so
there
has
been
a
bit
of
a
trend
from
the
new
homeowners
to
select
more
of
a
modern
look
and
feel,
but
there
are
home
designs
that
are
similar
to
previous
phases
that
are
available
to
purchasers.
So
I
don't
know
carl.
If
you
would
like
to
add
anything
else
to
that
comment.
E
B
Hear
me:
yes,
as
an
eddie
mentioned,
we
do
have
multiple.
We
have
three
elevations
for
kind
of
every
product
and
what
we
have
seen
is
a
trend
over
the
past
couple
years
to
go
a
little
bit
more
with
the
modern
look,
the
darker
siding,
but
I
think
even
what
you've
seen
in
the
past
year-
and
I
think
you've
noticed
this
in
new
communities
you're
starting
to
see
a
return
back
to.
Even
if
you
look
at
our
chio
dream
home
this
year,
white
siding
a
little
bit
more
of
a
let's
say
a
craftsman.
B
D
All
right,
I
think
we
just
want
to
see
some
consistency.
I
mean,
I
think
the
arts
and
crafts
models
on
the
your
first
phase
were
were
quite
popular
and
I
think
we're
we're
blending
in
well.
Also,
I
think
you
know,
I
think,
we've
seen
other
examples
in
manatec
where,
instead
of
using
vinyl
siding
people
have
gone
with
the
hardy
board,
siding
it's
still
a
plastic
siding,
but
it
has
a
different,
a
different
look
and
feel
to
it
which
blends
in
better
with
the
character
of
the
community
that
we're
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
there.
A
A
Thank
you
nadia
item
number
three
is
the
new
zoning
bylaw
proposed
budget
and
device
work
plan,
and
now
we
have
don
hurwire
and
dave
weiss
will
have
a
small
presentation.
I
think
this
item
already
went
to
planning
committee
and
today's
is
that
era.
So
we'll
go
back
to
item
number
one,
which
is
the
the
amendment
to
an
engineer's
report
for
the
east
savage
municipal
drain.
I
believe
I
saw
aaron
moore
and
I
see
dave
ryan.
A
B
B
The
progress
has
been
very
much
tied
to
the
development
issues
surrounding
property,
so
this
is
the
meeting
to
consider
the
technical
aspects
of
his
report.
Only
not
the
assessments
and
mr
robinson
has
a
presentation
if
you'd
like
to
see
it.
Otherwise,
if
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you,
if
you'd,
rather,
you
could
write
to
the
public
delegations,
thank
you.
A
So
it
is
the
committee
wish
to
have
a
presentation
or
we
can
just
go
to
to
that
resident.
I
did
send
this
report
to
both
council
kits
and
councillor
dudas,
because
part
of
it
is
in
the
in
in
ward,
2
and
and
part
of
it
in
ward
19,
and
we
heard
from
council
of
kids
and
council
dudas
has
no
no
concern,
so
I'm
at
the
witch
of
the
committee.
Would
you
like
to
see
a
presentation
or
we
can
just
go
to
the
delegation.
We
have
one
speaker.
A
A
C
Okay,
well,
like
five
minutes,
isn't
going
to
be
well,
but
I'll.
Try
my
best
in
this
five
minutes
I'll
try
to
dish
the
couple
of
things
that
I
have
very
deep
concerns
about
number
one:
the
savage
drain,
not
the
east
savage
drain,
the
savage
drain,
the
bear
brook
the
four
rock
dams
that
you
plan
to
put
in
on
this
diverting
the
water
away
from
the
mare
blue.
C
C
We've
already
seen
for
the
last
25
or
20
some
years
orleans
when
they
did
these
two
man-made
lakes.
Now
three
now
you're
planting,
as
I
see
here,
another
store
management
lake.
Here
we
have
been
here
for
50
years,
so
we
have
seen
big
grains
and
everything
before,
but
not
till
orleans
has
been
now
developed.
Do
we
get
flooding
in
the
middle
of
the
summer?
C
C
That,
where
it
sorts
the
store
management
facility
which
goes
down
again,
you
see
this
little.
Ditch
that
they're
running
on
to
the
trans-canada
trail.
Well,
that
was
merely
a
ditch,
literally
not
more
than
a
foot
or
so
deep
you're
entering
it
on
to
the
east
savage
drain
on
mare,
blue,
which
is
literally
where
the
savage
green,
the
savage
drain,
starts
as
a
trickle,
but
was
leaving
a
whole
swamp
in
between
it
to
absorb
it.
Now
you
guys
have
already
in
the
last.
C
You
know
five
years
developed
in
there,
which
again
we
were
had
concerns
about
now,
you're
going
to
flow
water,
you've
developing
more
up
onto
the
nor
side
of
the
navin
road
you
have.
This
is
now
again.
If
you
look
on
the
bigger
picture,
it
shows
that
these
developments
are
going
to
go
back
into
the
mckinnon
and
the
clarkson
drain.
What
ends
up
back
in
the
bear
brook
again
flooding
the
bear
brook
can't
handle
it.
C
So
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
if
we
jump
from
16
102
dash
a2
map,
you
see
the
long
municipal
clean
out
as
you're
planning.
You
have
four
rock
dams,
all
of
a
sudden
you're
popping
up
on
our
our
drain
that
we've
had
there
for,
since
the
60s,
that's
only
going
to
cause
flooding
on
our
farmland,
which
is
well
that
it's
just
not
acceptable.
C
Again.
You
have
now
again
the
the
straw
dams
are
nowhere
only
just
temporarily,
while
they're
digging
it.
I
presume
the
settlement
traps
are
just
while
you're
digging
this
also,
but
the
rock
dams.
I
can't
to
me
that
when
you
put
rock
in
that's
sounds
counter
permanent
now
my
proposal,
one
minute
hello,.
C
C
There
are
one
two
three
four
five,
six
beaver
dams
along
there.
If
you-
and
it
is
that
savage
municipal
drain
is
right
level
with
your
mirror,
blue.
If
you
were
to
divert
the
water
into
the
mere
blue
watch,
is
again
what
it's
meant
to
do.
It
has
dried
out
actually
over
the
last
40
years
that
I've
been
hiking
through
it.
You
are
now
with
this
new
proposal
are
actually
dr
diverting
more
water
away
from
the
natural
way
it
was
designed.
C
C
Instead
of
cleaning
out
the
east
savage
drain,
which
you're
talking
which
yes,
it
does
need
maintenance,
but
it
certainly
does
not
need
to
continue
up
to
where
this
new
area,
where
you're
planning
to
do,
because
that
will
bring
more
water
and
no
matter
how
much
you
clean
up
that
drain.
It
will
flood.
C
A
E
C
Well,
for
example,
now
again
I
said
I
have
been
on
my
property
for
50
years.
We
have
had
in
those
50
years
many
big
grains,
you
know
of
three
or
four
inches
it's
only
since
these
new
developments
up
here,
which
again
you
you
got
to
understand
when
you
have
a
swamp,
it
holds
the
water.
When
you
put
concrete,
it
doesn't
hold
water.
It's
diverted
again.
C
We
have
seen
many
times
now
that
this
creek
is
absolutely
full
and
flooding
in
the
middle
of
the
summer.
My
father-in-law,
who
lives,
who
has
landed
junction
right
on
the
bear
brook
to
the
savage,
has
his
crops.
You
know
the
spring
is:
is
normal
but
middle
of
summer.
Even
at
this
point
now
I
have
water
that's
running
back
from
the
mcfadden
municipal
drain,
which
runs
off
of
the
savage
and
coming
back
up
my
ditch
and
running
over
the
fields.
C
C
C
A
F
C
Yeah,
I'm
proposing
is,
if
you
look
at
what
you're
doing
here,
you're
putting
a
lot
of
barriers
and
breaking
in
and
everything
else.
Yes,
that
still
can
divert
water,
but
this
literally
like
I
said
it
just
needs
to
be
cleaned
out.
There's
no
rock
dams
or
anything
else
you
need
to
do.
The
bog
itself
is,
is
enormous
and
has
been
because
again
I
have
been.
I
I'm
a
naturalist.
I
go
through
the
forest,
I
hike
it
in
this.
You
know
early
late
fall,
I
snowshoe
it
in
the
winter.
C
C
If
you
look
at
the
first
stone
dam
that
you
plan
to
put
in
here,
roxanna,
damn
right
near
mare,
blue
literally,
if
you
go
south,
that's
where
there's
a
dam,
that's
got
to
be
at
least
300
feet,
if
not
more
in
circumference,
it
has
been
there
for
40
years
ever
since
they
built
that
drain,
the
the
savage
drain
and
the
east
savage
drain
they
introduced
beavers
into
here,
like
they
were
not
there
literally.
I
have
farmers
that
you
know
were
around.
C
C
So
I'm
not
saying
we're
wrecking
the
mirror
blue
we're
not
if
we
put
water
into
the
mare
blue,
it's
actually
been
like
we
used
to
go
blueberry
picking
when
50
years
ago
we
wouldn't
even
get
past
my
end
of
my
property,
which
is
literally
the
road
allowance
for
10th
blind
and
and
be
up
to
waders.
Now
you
can
get
all
the
way
pretty
well
up
another
mile
in
and
it's
it's
not
wet,
so
the
water
has
been
diverted
other
ways.
C
C
It
will
release
the
water
slowly
if
you
continue
with
this
east
savage
drain
idea
and
that
the
water
is
which
all
these
new
developments
that
you're
doing
on
the
north
side
of
navan
road
come
down
the
savage
drain.
Here,
it's
just
going
to
come,
no
matter
how,
like
again
that
lake
is
not
that
big.
If
it's,
if
you
compare
to
the
ones
that
they
have
in
orleans,
it
will
run
quickly
down
that
drain,
which
will
cause
flooding,
because
the
bear
brook
cannot
take
it.
C
If
you
go
through
the
bog,
it
will
absorb
it
and
let
it
out
slowly
like
it's
designed
to
do.
I'm
just
saying
god
has
put
this
here:
sorry
to
use
god
as
a
court
or
mother
nature.
However,
you
wish
to
say
it
has
put
this
here
as
exactly
what
you
guys
are
trying
to
do
and
we're
actually
diverting
water
away
from
it
and
trying
to
get
it
flowed
quickly
away.
F
A
F
A
C
No,
it
doesn't
dump
into
the
mirror
blue,
as
the
mirror
blue
does
as
what
your
your
lakes
are
blend.
To
do
it's
supposed
to
release
it
slowly,
but
the
lakes
fill
up
very
quickly
and
release
it
too
quickly.
Okay,
I,
as
the
farmers,
did
not
design
to
put
land
and
concrete
up
on
top
of
the
mirror,
blue
and
then
float
it
this
way.
20
some
years
ago,
when
you
first
had
your
proposal
to
do
orleans,
there
was
an
aqueduct
that
went
past
the
laidlaw
bus
station
down
two
miles
straight
to
the
otter
river.
C
Back
then,
the
engineers
said:
oh,
no,
that's
not
natural.
We
have
to
close
that
up
and
go
down
the
mclendon
in
the
clarkson
drain
again,
and
we
argued
yes,
but
we
weren't
supposed
to
have
6
000
acres
of
concrete
which
again
doesn't
hold
the
water.
Like
the
mare
blue
watch.
You
guys
know
over
the
years
you've
had
to
put
foundations
with
styrofoam,
underneath
the
houses
to
keep
them
up
because
it
was
a
swamp,
a
swamp
releases
it
slowly.
That's
how
it's
designed
you
took
away.
One
swamp,
you
were
by
this
person.
D
Okay,
so
my
question,
sorry,
I
don't
you
know,
I
heard
you
in
your
presentation.
I
heard
your
responses
to
the
other
members
of
council.
It
was
just
and
sorry
if
I
used
the
word
dump.
That
was
not
what
you
anticipated,
what
what
you're
suggesting,
but
but
your
outlets,
your
preferred
outlets
for
the
water,
is
the
mayor
blood
and
not
barefoot.
C
A
F
B
So
I
think
through
you,
mr
chair,
I
think
I'll
defer
to
the
drainage
engineer.
So
the
engineer
was
appointed
by
council
to
look
at
the
outlet
issues
he
has
addressed
those
issues
downstream.
That's
really
his
raison
d'etre
is
to
make
sure
there's
no
negative
impacts
downstream,
so
he
has
looked
at
that
so
I'll.
Let
mr
robinson
respond.
If
that's
okay,.
A
G
Robinson,
yes,
thank
you.
Excuse
me.
Thank
you.
The
the
question
of
diverging
the
flow
to
mayor
blue
did
come
up
in
our
original
on-site
meeting,
but
quite
simply,
you
can't
just
divert
one
water
course
to
another
water
course,
and
I
I
appreciate
there
is
a
perception,
but
we've
looked
at
this
very
closely
that
this
area
does
not
presently
drain
to
mare
blue.
G
So
I
mean
this
suggestion
that
it's
been
it's
being
changed
is
is
not
is
not
correct,
like
what
has
occurred
in
our
blue
over
the
years
with
respect
to
its
it's
being
drier
now
than
it
was.
I
can't
comment
on,
but
you
know
basically
one
needs
to
keep
the
drainage
within
the
existing
drainage
basins.
G
There
was
an
engineering
report
down
on
bear
river
missile
drain
in
1990
and
that,
in
that
case,
they
they,
you
know
acknowledged
that
there
were
existing
issues,
including
flooding
at
times
in
the
summer,
say
that,
from
the
point
of
view
that
how
how
often
as
as
has
been
suggested,
it's
much
more
frequently
now.
I
thought
I
can't
comment
on
specifically,
but
it's
it.
It
was
there
before,
and
in
that
case
they
did
two
things.
One
is
they.
G
G
So
what
we
have
done
as
part
of
this
report,
as
well
as
I
guess
at
least
four
others-
that
drain
to
the
bear
brook,
is
to
make
a
provision
that
two
things
occurs.
One
is
that
the
an
account
be
set
up
with
the
city
to
do
maintenance
on
bear
brook
to
basically
to
bring
it
back
to
what
was
done
in
1990.
G
Now
the
the
the
the
peak
flows
coming
out
of
the
stormwater
management
facilities
and
the
urban
area
are
our
control
to
what
what
they
would
be
without
the
development,
that's
kind
of
a
standard
practice.
Now,
however,
there
is
a
an
increase
in
the
volume
total
volume
runoff
as
a
result
of
things
that
have
been
raised.
G
Our
job
was
to
look
at.
How
can
this
be
accommodated
in
the
existing
drain,
so
that,
once
I
think,
once
that
planning's
in
place,
then
it
you
know
it
becomes
a
little
more
challenging
to
come
up
with
the
solution.
So
what
we've
we've
done
is
to
try
to
provide
a
a
reasonable
solution
that
achieves
what
was
what's
been
put
in
place
from
a
planning
point
of
view
and
it's
taking
into
consideration
the
concerns
of
the
of
the
landowners
that
are
going
to
be
affected.
G
G
We
we
use
rock
dams
in
some
locations,
just
because
they're
a
more
permanent
facility
during
construction,
but
once
construction
is
completed,
they
will
be
removed
along
with
the
the
straw
bale
dams,
the
the
sediment
basins
will
remain
in
place
so
that
it
it
provides
an
area
where
clean
out
can
be
done
in
the
future
in
these
areas,
so
normally
they're
they're
not
filled
back
in
but
but
the
dams
are
all
removed.
So
I
know
that
hopefully
helps
to
some
extent.
It's
not.
You
know
it's
not
an
easy
project
to
do.
F
E
Thanks,
mr
robinson,
so
I
I
you
just
gave
us
a
lot
of
information
in
response
to
counselor
meehan.
What
I
think
you're
saying
is
there
is
a
risk
to
the
bear
brook,
but
you
are
implementing
mitigation
measures
that
you
feel
will
mitigate
the
risk
to
the
farmers
in
the
area.
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding.
G
That's
the
that's
the
intent
it
will
mitigate
or
certainly
reduce
the
risk
and
in
the
maintenance
of
the
drain
itself,
which
I
so
say
I
was
done
a
very
a
very
major
maintenance
in
1990.
I
don't
think
there
has
been
anything
done
since
then,
so
by
providing
and
it's
a
significant
amount
of
money
we
provided
for
in
again
as
a
total
there's,
a
total
of
five
projects
that
are
impacted,
we'll
let
the
city
go
in
and
basically
duplicate
the
work
that
was
done
in
1990.
E
G
Well,
there's
a
potential
for,
as
I
say,
because
of
the
not
the
peak
flows,
their
control,
but
because
the
volume
of
any
any
development
you
have
when
you
put
hard
surfaces
on
the
total
volume
of
water
which
is
distributed
downstream
increases.
But
it's
it's.
It's
it's
very
difficult
to
quantify
exactly
what
that
would
mean
whether
it
will
mean
anything
naked,
anything
additional,
any
additional
negativity
or
not.
E
G
Well,
you're
getting
into
a
legal
question
which
is
not
my
area
of
expertise
or
or
profession.
It's,
I
guess,
there's
always
recourse.
But
again
I
can't
can't
ask
what
all
I
can
say
is
that
you
know
we
were
put
in
a
situation
where
there's
a
development,
secondary
planning
and
a
whole
lot
of
stuff.
That's
gone
forward,
and
the
outlet
for
this
is
the
east.
G
E
E
E
G
G
That
suggestion
came
up
but-
and
I
think
part
of
it
was
the
sense
that
water
had
been
diverted
away
from
mare,
blue,
but
but
based
on
all
of
the
work
we've
done
in
the
mapping
and
planning
and
surveying
information.
That's
that's
not
the
case.
So
we've
kept
the
drainage
within
its
original
drainage
area.
D
Thank
you.
So
you
know
for
years,
musicality's
approved
developments
and
just
dumped
water
onto
the
nearest
property.
If
there
was
a
ditch
located
closely,
they
would
just
dump
it
under
there.
I
can
show
you
countless
communities
in
in
goldberg
township,
where
that
is
the
case.
It's
just
it's
a
it's.
A
stateless.
D
There's
a
ditch
and
it
drops
onto
someone's
private
property,
no
mitigation,
no
outlets,
no
regulation
over
the
over
that
ditch
and
drainage.
So
we've
come
quite
a
long
ways,
and
I
know
that
our
drainage
group
has
been
advocating
for
these
type
of
situations
where
we
look
at.
We
use
the
drainage
act
as
a
benefit
to
some
of
these
suburban
impacts
in
rural
communities.
So
in
this
case
I'm
just
looking
at
this
and
andy-
you
can
jump
in
on
some
of
the
comments
I
might
have
here,
but
you
have
it.
D
D
B
D
Yeah,
so
I've
been
through
this
enough
times
with
with
you
and
with
staff
over
11
years
to
to
know
that
that
that
is
the
likely
reality,
as
it
goes
through
all
the
different
authorities.
So
the
other
option,
you
look
at
the
savage
musical
drain
which
doesn't
get
approved
if
that's
applied.
For
today,
it's
right
through
the
mirror,
blue.
D
G
D
G
D
All
right,
it
seems
very
similar
to
the
arbuckle
municipal
drain
outlet
into
the
jock
river
in
richmond,
where
we
have
a
2
000
unit
subdivision
leading
into
a
storm
water
pond
within
the
flood
plain
of
course,
most
of
richmond
is
within
a
flood
plain,
and
then
we
haven't
seen
any
impacts
negatively
at
all
from
that
storm
water
management
system
into
the
newly
renovated
arbuckle
drain
that
outlets
into
the
jock
river.
So
it
seems
very
similar
to
that,
and
I
think
we
haven't
seen
the
negative
impacts
with
that.
In
fact,
it's
worked
quite
well.
F
G
Obviously,
but
there's
there
is
a
schedule
of
assessments
or
assessments,
but
also
a
schedule
of
allowances
to
the
properties
that
were
seen
to
be
impacted
as
a
result
of
the
not
of
of
kind
of
development
that
was
occurring
at
that
stage
of
game,
but
of
just
the
fact
that
the
water
was
draining
through
mirror
blue
and
from
upstream
it's
it's
a
very
large
drainage
base
in
the
bare
river
municipal
drain.
So
there
is
so
there
is
a
schedule
in
there
of
payments.
G
So
our
what
we're
proposing
is
that
same
schedule.
Those
same
property
owners
would
be
provided
with
a
a
portion
of
the
cost.
That's
been
associated
towards
that
we'll
call
it
injurious
liability
assessment
so
that
you
know
they
are
they're
the
ones
who
are
were
seen
to
be
impacted
at
that
stage.
So
we
figured
that
was
the
best
approach
to
looking
at
the
impact
today.
F
Just
for
my
to
clarify
for
me,
when
we've
had
this
application,
so
you
meet
on
site
or
the
property
owners
that
are
affected.
Are
they
do
they
join
you
in
that
meeting
to
have
a
discussion
about
where
the
drains
gonna
go?
You
know
what
the
impact
of
the
initial
construction
in
the
drain
has
been.
What
they
think
is
the
is
the
best
solution,
as
we
continue
forward
with
the
development.
Are
they
there
for
that.
G
And
there
were
people
quite
a
number
of
people
who
showed
up
at
the
meeting.
We
had
two
meetings,
one
for
the
east,
savage
one
for
mckinnon's
after
and
and
there
was
an
overlap
and
and
but
we
did
provide
in
our
report,
we've
provided
a
summary
of
the
comments
that
we
received
at
that
meeting.
So
the
p
yes,
so
people
have
an
opportunity.
That's
the
whole
idea
of
the
initial
onsite
meeting
is
to
is
to
get
input
from
property
owners
in
some
cases.
A
F
B
and
just
to
add
a
little
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee
members.
These
drains
are
communal.
We
don't
own
municipal
drains,
they're
provincial
drains,
basically,
but
the
landowner's
petition
for
these
drains.
They
aren't
designed
to
never
flood
they're
designed
for
two
to
five
year,
storm
events
which
are
relatively
common
events,
because
otherwise
they
would
be
paying
for
the
suez
canal.
So
to
speak,
is
you
know
so
they
they
lands
yeah
like,
but
the
drain's
not
there
to
guarantee
that
you'll
never
flood.
They
expect
to
be
flooded.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
ryan,
and
just
a
quick
question
to
andy.
Maybe
you
can
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
for
the
the
benefit
of
the
committee
in
the
report
itself.
On
page
three,
when
you
call
this
edward
report
was
adopted
by
la
1623
after
township
cumberland
dated
september
1965,
all
section
of
the
1965
engineers
report
have
been
incorporated
under
this
report.
So
therefore
1965
engineers
report
prior.
So
can
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
more?
G
G
That
report
is
still
the
official
official
report
and
bylaws
so
that,
if
that,
if
there
was
requirement
to
do
maintenance
on
it,
that's
the
report
that
would
be
would
be
used.
So
yeah
in
in
the
wording
we've
used
is
in
some
instances
where
there
may
be
branch
strains
or
there
may
be
sections
of
the
drains
that
don't
have
to
be
updated
in
order
to
accommodate
development.
G
B
I
forgot
my
my
earbuds:
don't
work
with
zoom,
for
some
reason-
apologies!
Yes,
it's
good
to
be
here
this
morning
and
we're
fresh
on
the
heels
of
the
adoption
of
the
official
plan
last
week,
and
we
certainly
heard
about
the
desire
to
proceed
swiftly
with
the
new
zoning
bylaw.
So
this
is
this
is
about
as
swift
as
we
could
do.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
both
david
and
carol
are
on
the
line.
I
think
david's.
Gonna
walk
us
through
a
brief
presentation
for
the
committee's
benefit.
A
B
H
Yeah
thank
you
chair.
I
do
have
carol
ready
with
me
as
well
and
we're
both
available
to,
of
course,
to
reply
to
any
questions
or
comments
as
we
go
along,
so
I'm
just
gonna
launch
right
into
it
mark
if
you
just
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
in
terms
of
just
the
recommendations
of
what
we're
looking
for
is,
we
are
seeking
a
a
total
budget
of
8.296
million
dollars
to
complete
the
the
new
zoning
bylaw
process
over
the
next
three
years.
H
1.35
million
was
already
approved
earlier
last
year,
so
we
are
looking
for
an
additional
funding
commitment
6.95
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
resources
and
the
staffing
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
undertake
this
project.
The
funding
will
come
ninety
percent,
ten
percent
from
development
charges,
so
there
will
only
be
ten
percent
of
it
will
will
come
from
the
tax
budget.
Well,
the
other
ninety
percent
will
be
covered
as
a
development
charge
item
going
forward.
Mark
next
slide
just
so.
H
What
we
are
seeking
here
today
is
for
the
approval
of
the
of
the
development
charges,
items
that
we
are
looking
for,
so
we
can
fund
it,
and
we've
also
made
some
preliminary
revisions
to
the
high
level
work
plan
just
to
adjust
things
in
terms
of
schedules.
There's
been
an
awful
lot
of
movement,
respect
to
the
efficient
plan
as
it
goes
forward,
so
we'll
be
looking
for
for
approval
on
the
high
level
work
plan.
H
As
it
goes
forward,
we
will
be
bringing
a
detailed
work
plan
and
a
zoning
approach
early
in
the
new
year.
That
will
provide
much
more
detail
on
exactly
how
we
will
be
rolling
up
the
zoning
process.
We
do
have
an
awful
lot
of
work
to
do
to
go
through
the
various
motions
and
the
clean
official
plan
copy,
as
it
moves
through
to
really
analyze
and
understand
exactly
what
it
is
that
that
we
need
to
do
as
part
of
this
significant
and
enormous
task.
That
is
ahead
of
us
next
slide,
please!
H
An
awful
lot
of
the
weight
has
been
in
apartment,
construction
and
smaller
units,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
a
significant
increase
in
larger
units.
That
is,
that
two
or
more
bedrooms
for
for
larger
households
to
to
be
in
in
terms
of
the
zoning
structure,
we'll
also
be
moving
to
a
form-based
approach,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
H
H
So,
with
respect
to
the
rural
area,
the
official
plan
does
look
at
strengthening
the
15-minute
approach
within
within
neighborhoods,
particularly
the
villages
within
the
within
the
rural
area,
and
so
we
will
be
looking
at
how
we
can
develop
the
zoning
bala
to
be
supportive
of
that.
That
includes
more
opportunities
for
different
land
uses
and
permissions
that
are
supportive
of
village
character
and
are
respectful
of
that
we'll
be
looking
at
establishing
permissions
for
a
veterinary
clinics,
medical
clinics.
H
We
also
have
significant
environmentally
sensitive
lands
that
we'll
need
to
consider
and
contemplate
with
our
natural
colleagues
and
then
make
sure
that
we're
adequately
protecting
those,
and
then
we
also
have
renewable
energy
generation
that
we'll
need
to
consider
about
where
we
are
going
to
put
in
place.
Councillor
gower,
I
see
your
hand
is
up.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
quick
question
or
if
you
wanted
me
to
continue
work.
H
H
H
It's
concentrated
in
a
very,
very
small
percentage
of
zones,
and
so
we
as
a
key
task
in
order
to
implement
the
growth
management
strategy
that
council
has
set
out
before
us.
We
need
to
spread
that
out
and
we
need
to
create
a
lot
more
openness,
a
lot
more
fairness
and
a
lot
more
equity
among
the
universe
among
the
neighborhoods,
in
terms
of
where
that
occurs.
H
So
that
is
going
to
be
a
huge
challenge.
It
is
going
to
be
a
very
difficult
challenge
and
it
is
going
to
involve
some
very,
very
difficult
conversations,
but
it
is
what
has
been
it
is
what
we've
been
told
to
do.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
it's
also
the
right
thing
to
do
as
well.
Let's
move
to
the
next
slide
in
terms
of
the
form-based
approach
that
we're
looking
at
the
official
plan
really
lays
out
two
things.
H
The
big
tool
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
to
do.
That
is
to
be
flipping
to
a
form-based
approach,
and
that
is
picking
up
on
the
contextual
cues
that
are
within
the
neighborhood
and
rolling
those
into
much
more
efficient
and
much
more
sensible
regulations
that
let
a
neighborhood
understand
what
it
is
that
could
conceivably
be
built
next
to
them
in
terms
of
what
it
could
look
like
how
big
it
could
be.
What
are
the
basic
balkan,
massing
and
dimensions
of?
H
What
is
there
so
in
terms
of
the
key
approach
to
that
is,
our
perspective
is
is
if
we
can
get
the
form
and
if
we
can
get
the
function
right,
then
the
density
that
is
inside
will
be
less
important.
It
will
always
matter,
but
it
will
be
less
important
in
terms
of
surprises
to
neighbors.
So
a
big
chunk
of
that
is
removing
that
element
of
uncertainty
that
community
associations
often
feel
when
new
infill
is
coming
into
those
neighborhoods
next
slide.
H
Please,
when
we
talk
about
the
various
functional
aspects,
there
are
an
awful
lot
of
things
that
that
we
expect
a
lot
to
do.
We
expect
a
lot
to
solve
its
own
problems
as
much
as
reasonably
can
be,
but
a
lot
also
functions
in
terms
of
a
block
and
it
also
functions
in
terms
of
where
it
sits
within
the
neighborhood.
So
there
are
multiple
levels
that
we
need
to
consider.
H
Those
functional
aspects
on
there
are
both
individual
lot
issues,
but
there
are
also
broader
issues
as
well
in
terms
of
storm,
water
and
drainage
that
we
need
to
consider
and
accommodate
well.
So
there
there's
a
lot
of
partnerships
that
we'll
also
have
to
work
our
way
through
with
various
other
groups
within
the
city,
infrastructure,
asset
management,
right-of-ways,
all
sorts
of
other
partnerships
that
we'll
be
that
we'll
be
exploring
as
we
as
we
craft.
H
This
next
slide,
please,
and
so
overall,
when
we
talk
about
the
official
plan
implantation-
and
there
is
some
carry
over
here
again
with
with
respect
to
the
villages-
is
that
we
are
looking
for
that
transitional
change
to
occur
across
our
neighborhoods
so
rather
than
as
it
is
right
now,
everything
being
that
simple,
uniform
flat
basic
approach.
We
do
want
to
provide
more
context
and
have
development
that
is
going
to
be
more
contextually
different,
focused
more
towards
views.
H
H
It's
very,
very
hard
to
use
the
zoning
is
actually
completely
separated
from
the
parcel
fabric,
so
it
makes
analysis
an
incredibly
tedious
and
difficult
job
for
anybody,
much
less
a
community
or
a
resident
trying
to
understand
what
the
rules
are
that
apply
on
their
particular
piece
of
property.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
bring
a
much
more
intelligent
and
analytical
process
we're
going
to
use
it
for
the
zoning
bylaw.
H
So
we're
going
to
bring
the
zoning
directly
right
into
the
mapping
and
allow
for
much
more
modern
approaches
to
modeling
and
analysis
capability.
The
long-term
plan
is
also
to
make
this
also
public
facing
as
well,
so
residents
will
have
much
more
access
to
the
ability
to
understand
how
their
neighborhood
is
going
to
change
and
what
the
rules
are
that
will
be
within
the
neighborhoods
as
well.
So
that's
a
very
exciting
new
tool
that
we
are
going
to
be
developing
as
part
of
this
process.
H
Next
slide
along
with
that
mapping
framework,
though,
also
comes
the
ability
to
model
what
impacts
might
be
from
new
development
as
it
moves
into
your
neighborhood,
so
we
can
develop
with
the
new
framework
indicators
that
will
actually
provide
the
way
for
us
to
again
numerically
track.
What
is
the
climate
change
impacts
of
these?
What
are
the
traffic
impacts
of
these?
What
are
the
noise
impacts
of
these
and
as
data
and
monitoring
progresses?
H
What
it
is
that
is
going
to
be
permitted
under
the
new
land
use
regime
and
to
be
able
to
work
more
effectively
with
it.
Next
slide,
please
so
in
total,
over
the
next
three
three
years,
we
do
have
a
a
lot
to
cover
we
have.
This
is
just
a
snapshot
of
I'm,
not
gonna
read
all
of
this,
but
we
have
an
awful
lot
of
stuff
that
we
need
to
do.
H
It's
not
just
simply
neighborhood
zones,
but
we
need
to
you
know,
focus
on
the
rural
zones
and
the
agricultural
areas
and
the
open
space
and
all
of
those
various
other
aspects
that
make
a
city.
Great
zoning
touches
every
single
lot
all
the
way
across
the
city
in
every
context
and
in
every
land
use
and
what
it
really
does
is.
It
sets
the
direction
for
how
we
are
going
to
achieve
that
official
plan
vision
going
forward.
A
big
task-
yes,
it
is,
and-
and
that's
why
we're
here
before
you
today,
next
slide.
H
So,
in
terms
of
where
we
are
at
the
the
key
milestone
that
we
needed
to
achieve,
is
we
needed
council
to
to
approve
the
official
plan,
and
now
the
council
has
done
so.
That
really
gets
us
to
the
ability
to
kick
off
and
really
start
understanding
what
the
zoning
framework
is
going
to
look
like
as
we
move
forward.
H
That
will
also
include
within
the
public
engagement
strategy,
and
so
that
will
tell
residents
how
they
can
engage
with
the
community
with
the
zoning,
when
the
touch
points
will
be
that
they'll
be
able
to
to
interact
with
that,
but
also
the
the
terms
of
engagements
as
well.
There
are
certain
things
that
that
we
won't
be
able
to
move
on.
H
There
are
gonna
be
a
lot
of
things
that
we
will
and
part
of
this
whole
process
is
going
to
be
ensuring
that
we
can
provide
zoning
that
fits
communities
as
best
as
we
can
given,
of
course,
the
consistency
requirements
with
the
official
plan,
growth
management
strategy
and
the
provincial
policy
framework.
That's
there.
H
I
Yeah
thanks
chair
actually
david.
You
answered
part
of
my
question
with
your
slide,
showing
the
modeling
of
the
dun
robin
area.
One
of
my
questions
was
going
to
be.
Can
we
expect
the
same
kind
of
same
kind
of
modeling
that's
being
planned
for
inside
the
urban
boundary
as
for
rural?
So
it
looks
like
yes
kind
of
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
I
I
think
what
we
saw
through
the
official
plan
update
process
was
that
some
of
the
needs
and
interests
of
rural
communities
when
it
comes
to
consultation
and
engagement
are
different
than
in
the
urban
ward.
So
I
guess
I'm
asking:
how
have
you
taken
that
into
effect
and
have
you
worked
in
is
any
differences
in
budget
that
are
affected
by
that
or
in
the
work
plan
process,
to
reflect
what
we've
learned
from
the
from
the
official
plan
engagement
and
how
that
can
be
applied
going
forward
for
this
next
step.
H
Yeah
chair,
that's
that's
a
great
question
from
the
counselor
and
that's
something
that
we're
really
working
hard
with
respect
to
the
public
engagement
strategy.
We
want
to
build
from
what
the
new
official
plan
did
and
we
want
to
see
if
we
can
actually
go
beyond
it
again.
The
thing
that
we
recognize
again
is
zoning
is
so
personal
it
really
you
get
right
down
into
the
weeds
and
you
start
having
really
heated
discussion
over.
H
You
know
what
might
seem
to
be
inches
but,
of
course,
inches
matter
when
you're
talking
about
where
things
are
at
so
I
think,
I
think,
in
terms
of
you
know
the
engagement
and
getting
down
to
how
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
real
residents.
That's
something
that
we
are
giving
a
lot
of
thought,
and
we
will
include
that
within
the
public
engagement
strategies,
we
come
forward.
I
Okay,
I
know
my
rural
colleagues
know
much
better
than
I
I
do
about
the
challenges,
but
you
know
we
often
hear
at
this
committee
from
residents
who
haven't
heard
about
a
drainage
report
or
haven't
heard
about
a
zoning,
and
I
even
wonder
if
some
budget
for
for
direct
mail
or
or
additional
signage
anyhow,
I
will.
I
will
defer
to
my
other
colleagues,
but
it
is
a
concern
to
make
sure
that
people
do
hear
about
how
their
communities
are
affected
and
may
change.
Thanks.
Chair.
A
E
Councillor
gower
just
touched
on
exactly
what
I
wanted
to
hit
on,
which
was
just
you
know,
as
you're
building
your
consultation
and
and
coming
straight
out
of
the
official
plan.
You
know,
I
think
direct
mail
is
a
great
suggestion.
We've
also
heard
from
rural
residents.
You
know
zoom
online
meetings,
I
know.
Obviously,
given
the
pandemic,
we
had
no
choice
but,
as
as
things
improve,
you
know,
the
rural
area
definitely
likes
in
person
prefers
in
person
meetings
sometimes
during
the
working
typical
working
hours
is
also
not
convenient
for
rural
residents.
E
A
Any
any
other
question
to
mr
wise:
oh
thank
you
very
much
dave
and
don
for
your
presentation
and
looking
forward
continue
working
with
you,
mr
wise.
Obviously
we
heard
from
our
colleagues
some
of
the
challenges
in
the
rural
area.
We
can
work
together
to
over,
but
I
mean
just
a
little
bit
of
comment
about
the
drainage
or
usually
a
male
out,
goes
to
all
the
the
resident
near
a
municipal,
drainage
or
gonna
be
impact
one
way
or
another,
with
the
municipal
drainage,
but
sometimes
in
a
rural
area.
A
A
So
with
that
we
have
no
one
sign
up
mr
clerk
to
to
the
open
mic
session.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct,
okay
and
inquiries?
We
haven't
received
any
other
business
non-adjournment,
so
our
next
meeting
is
thursday
december
the
2nd
and
it's
going
to
be
a
budget
meeting
we're
going
to
try
to
beat
the
record
of
councillor
moffett
on
this
one.
So
we
prepare
december
2nd
budget
meeting.