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B
B
B
B
C
B
Will
when
we
have
something
to
bring
back
yesterday?
Oh
thank
you
for
information,
okay,
okay,
thank
you,
and
so
any
declarations
of
interest
should
have
asked
that
first,
no,
no
okay,
and
we
have
communications,
as
noted
from
there
with
regard
to
the
heritage
workshop
and
the
letter
from
ministry,
tourism
and
culture.
So
before
we
start
with
our
regular
agenda,
I
do
have
something
that
I'm
going
to
share
with
you.
B
The
mayor
members
of
council
and
many
residents
have
been
steadfast
in
their
efforts
to
address
the
deplorable
condition
of
some
buildings
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
buildings
that
are
often
vacant,
unkempt,
ignored
and
left
to
deteriorate
by
their
owners.
A
particular
concern
to
councillors-
and
this
subcommittee,
which
really
you
know,
is
why
this
subcommittee
was
formed
and
we
are
dealing
with
heritage
differently,
as
well
as
a
number
of
community
and
heritage
organizations,
is
a
practice
by
some
owners
of
heritage
buildings
to
neglect
these
to
the
point
of
occasioning.
B
Their
demise,
which,
as
we've
heard
from
many
of
you,
is
demolition
by
neglect.
Last
year,
City
Council,
fortified
the
property
standards
by
law,
to
increase
the
standard
of
care
for
heritage
buildings.
Granted
these
new
provisions
cannot
undo
years
of
neglect
for
some
buildings.
However,
I
am
happy
to
say
that
going
forward,
these
provisions
should
prevent
future
demolitions
by
neglect.
B
The
chief
building
official
issued
orders
under
the
building
code
act
requiring
the
owner
to,
among
other
things,
rendered
a
site
safe
for
the
public
and
requiring
the
owner
to
arrange
for
the
building
to
be
assessed
by
a
professional
engineer
with
heritage
experience
in
order
to
identify
what
if
any
portion
of
the
building
could
be
preserved
if
the
building
was
to
be
demolished
at
all
I
know,
several
of
you
were
at
the
meeting
when
this
committee
had
that
before
us.
In
response,
the
owner
launched
a
number
of
court
applications
against
the
City
of
Ottawa.
B
The
city
sought
and
obtained
a
court
order
requiring
the
owner
to
produce
a
report
prepared
by
the
heritage
engineer
prior
to
the
other
court
cases.
Proceeding
further,
both
parties
agreed
to
an
alternative
path
to
preserving
parts
of
the
building.
Terms
of
settlement
were
agreed
to
late
September
2013,
which
provided
for
a
detailed
timetable
for
stabilization
repair,
demolition
of
parts
of
the
building
that
were
beyond
saving.
B
While
the
owner
has
raised
concerns
about
the
city's
approval
and
permitting
process
over
the
past
few
months,
some
of
which
the
city
has
addressed
this
in
no
way
justifies
this
owners
failure
to
even
commence
the
work
in
accordance
with
the
timetable
agreed
to
between
the
parties.
This
failure
makes
it
highly
unlikely
that
the
owner
will
be
able
to
complete
the
work
by
the
agreed-upon
deadline.
In
fact,
there
is
now
a
concern
that
the
building
has
suffered
more
damage
as
a
result
of
this
prolonged
neglect
and
lack
of
action.
This
is
not
tolerable.
B
The
city
has
been
patient
and
will
not
stand
by
to
watch
heritage
buildings
being
destroyed
through
neglect
and
inaction.
I
can
advise
that
the
mayor
has
directed
city
clerk
and
solicitor
to
quickly
take
steps
to
revive
the
court
applications
that
were
paused
as
part
of
the
terms
of
settlement
and
to
take
whatever
action
is
necessary
to
ensure
this
building
is
stabilized
repaired,
etc
before
the
next
winter.
B
In
addition,
the
chief
building
official
has
confirmed
that
she
will
revisit
this
site
and
determine
whether
any
further
orders
requiring
the
building
to
be
reassessed
by
a
heritage
engineer
are
needed
at
this
time.
In
essence,
I'm
advising
you
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
has
resumed
its
litigation
with
the
owner
of
this
important
heritage
building
and
is
taking
steps
to
obtain
full
compliance
by
court
action
and
by
other
means,
as
determined
by
the
chief
building
official,
based
on
the
results
of
the
engineering
reports.
B
I
thought
that
that
was
important
too,
to
say
at
the
beginning
of
our
meeting.
I
know
that
it's
not
part
but
through
the
attention,
a
good
attention
of
the
folks
in
the
in
the
lower
town,
Community,
Association
and
certainly
miss
Maitland
and
and
and
her
folks
at
Heritage
Ottawa
have
been
keeping
a
watch
on
it
as
well.
Only
our
lady,
when
we
were
dealing
with
it,
we
were
fortunate
to
identify
the
opportunity
to
keep
two
of
the
walls
and
we're
not
about
to
see
that
decision
tossed
away.
B
D
Is
down
to
yes,
the
most
seriously
mocha
is
like
a
donor
nations
deceived
an
hour,
usually
mercy,
lean-to
travail
people
without
support.
Yes,
I
do
see
a
seeker
Sally
coots.
We
we
we've
had
issues
on
this
property
as
you're.
Well
aware
of
we,
we
decided
on
a
path
forward
and
we
thought
that
the
legal
agreement
was
was
gonna,
see
some
actions,
unfortunately
we're
at
the
point
where
we
haven't
seen
anything
and
it's
not
it's
not
it's
not
about
us
not
giving
enough
time.
It's
not
about
us,
not
understanding
the
challenges.
D
There's
we
want
to
see
the
the
start
of
restoration
of
that
property
and
there's
no
reason
why
that
hasn't
started.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
legal
agreement
stands
and
that
we
see
progress
and
restoration
of
that
site.
Oms
you
see
a
man
on
his
donkey
comes
up.
She
let
su
V
Demario.
Mr.
Mac,
you
party,
Austria
no
tender
nikka
on
a
deputy,
a
two-dimensional
reg
lemma
wanted
as
well
to
to
recognize
the
efforts
in
the
community
not
only
from
from
the
restoration
of
that
site,
but
also
to
access
the
sidewalk.
D
We
get
many
complaints
because
right
now,
there's
it's
it's
batty
Kathy
and
you
know
from
one
from
one
of
the
elements
we
want
the
public
access
to
the
sidewalk
to,
but
also
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
property
is
safe
and
well
restored.
So
hopefully,
this
this
reopening
of
the
the
legal
process
gives
us
results.
I
think
that's
the
the
intended
outcome
here
and
it's
way
overdue.
Thank
You.
E
I'm
sure
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
Lord
Khan
community,
sociation
and
Heritage
Ottawa
for
being
diligent
and
scrutinizing
the
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and
particularly
following
the
pathology
of
our
lady
school
I.
Think
that
the
legal
departments,
action
at
the
request
of
Jan
and
the
mayor
I
think,
is
very
welcome
and
it
sends
a
message
to
the
city
that
the
city's
heritage
policy
and
programs
need
to
be
taken
very,
very
seriously
and
I'm.
Glad
to
see
this.
B
And
we're
going
to
our
hold
of
the
the
first
item
and
we're
going
to
find
out
where
councillor
Wilkinson
is
and
hopefully
she's
on
her
way
item
2
is
the
application
to
construct
an
addition
to.
We
have
a
new
speakers.
We
have
speakers
that
are
opposed
so
we'll
be
holding
that
item
and
and
the
information
previously
distributed.
Is
there
any
need
to
hold
the
temporary
intervention
with
Fleet
Street?
Is
that
information
received
received?
Thank
you
so
have
we
had
any
hang
on
a
second.
B
I
think
with
Crichton,
because
we,
unless
councillor
Wilkinson,
shows
up
in
the
next
minute
while
you're
approaching
the
table
she
is,
she
is
bringing
the
presentation
and
I
ask
your
indulgence.
All
of
you
that
are
are
here
just
to
listen
and
support,
and
mr.
Taran
thank
you.
It's
amazing.
She
was
saying
to
me
yesterday.
B
B
B
Not
that
that's
what
I'm
suggesting,
but
certainly
she
was
saying
you
know
just
imagine
she
says
I'm
still
alive
they're
still
alive
and
they
forget
also
that
she
said
not
Peter
Clarke,
but
it
was
somebody
else
that
was
was
involved.
She
says
I
think
that
that's
amazing,
so
Leslie
are
you.
Do
you
have
a
presentation?
Thank
you.
F
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
as
you've,
seen
on
the
agenda,
the
application
before
you
today
is
to
construct
an
addition
at
2:05
crichton
Street,
a
property
designated
under
part
5
of
the
interior,
Heritage
Act
and
located
in
the
new
Edinburgh
Heritage
Conservation
District.
So
this
could
be
a
brief
overview
of
the
project,
since
it
is
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
other
projects.
F
You've
seen
so
you've
heard
me
say
before
when
I
show
you
things
in
new
Edinburgh
that
the
grid
is
a
bit
skewed,
but
for
the
purposes
of
my
presentation,
I'm
going
to
call
this
North,
even
though
it's
not
quite
right
but
North
being
facing
onto
Creighton
Street.
So
the
property
is
located
at
the
corner
of
Creighton
street
and
Dufferin
Road,
which
is
right
at
the
edge
of
the
new
Edinburgh
Heritage
Conservation
District.
So
the
boundary
of
the
district
runs
right
down
the
center
of
Duffing
Road
along
the
west
side
of
the
property.
F
So
you
can
see
it's
here
on
the
corner
and
here
on
this
corner,
just
to
show
you
the
current
conditions,
as
I
said
so,
the
boundary
runs
down
here
down
the
middle
of
Dufferin
Road.
This
is
the
property
in
question
across
the
street.
Is
the
former
Creighton
Street
public
school,
which
has
been
converted
to
a
new
use
and
also
an
associated
more
contemporary
condo
development
and
townhouses
along
Creighton?
F
The
character
of
this
side
of
kryten
Street
is
more
in
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
so
the
building
was
constructed
in
1945
on
a
vacant
lot,
so
it
was
a
later
development
in
new
and
more
it
has.
It
was
planned
originally
to
be
a
two-story
flat.
Roof
building
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
In
a
moment,
only
one
story
of
the
building
was
constructed
and
the
hip
roof
that
you
see
on
the
building
today
was
added
in
1994.
F
This
just
shows
you
the
streetscape,
so
this
is
looking
I'm
going
to
call
west
along
Creighton
Street
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
This
is
different
Road
on
this
side,
so
you
can
see
the
character
of
this
side
of
Crichton.
Street
is
primarily
the
typical
one
and
a
half
two
and
a
half
story
gable
into
Street
single-family
houses
that
you
see
throughout
November
I'm.
Probably
the
most
common
house
form.
F
This
is
the
rear
of
the
property,
so
the
property
backs
on
to
the
corner
of
river
lane
and
Dufferin
Road.
It
does
have
a
fairly
large
Co
hedge,
as
you
can
see,
I
took
these
pictures
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
there
was
a
lot
more
snow
than
there
is
now.
Thankfully
there
is
this
sort
of
garage
addition
at
the
back.
We
don't
know
when
it
was
built.
There
was
no
permit
on
file
for
it.
So
I
can't
give
you
an
exact
date
for
that.
F
But
part
of
the
application
here
today
is
to
remove
this
addition,
and
then
this
is
looking
along
the
other
side
of
the
property
with
the
neighbor
neighboring
house
adjacent.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it
has
quite
a
high
basement-
and
you
can
also
see
here
that
there's
a
bit
of
a
great
change
from
the
front
of
the
property
on
Crichton
to
the
back
on
River
Lane.
It
slopes
down.
F
F
One
of
the
interesting
things
about
this
property
in
terms
of
evaluating
the
alteration
is
that
it
is
considered
a
gateway
building
in
the
Heritage
Conservation
District.
So
at
the
time
that
the
district
was
designated
all
of
the
buildings
that
muck
the
entrances
to
the
district
were
designated
as
gateway
buildings
and
were
encouraged
to
be
retained
because
of
the
role
that
they
play
in
marking
the
entrance
to
the
district.
F
So
the
application
before
the
committee
today
is
an
addition
of
a
second-story
on
top
of
the
existing
building
demolition
of
the
existing.
In
addition,
that
I
showed
you
construction
of
a
new
two-story
addition
at
the
rear
of
the
building
and
then
the
final
result
would
be
a
semi-detached
house
with
one
unit
fronting
on
two
different
Road
and
one
on
to
Creighton
Street.
F
F
There
is
currently
and
you'll
see
in
some
of
the
in
some
of
their
drawings
later,
but
currently
along
I'm,
in
to
mention
this
in
the
photos
along
this
side
of
the
property.
There's
significant
amount
of
asphalt
that
is
proposed
to
be
removed
and
replaced
with
soft
surfacing
as
well,
so
this
is
chitin
Street,
Duff
and
Road
and
River
Lane.
F
So
what
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
of
this
drawing
is
the
original
blueprint
that
was
obtained
by
the
applicant.
So
this
is
what
was
planned
for
the
property
in
1945
by
the
original
owner.
The
property
was
owned
by
the
owner
by
the
original
property
owner
up
until
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
it
was
purchased
by
the
current
applicant,
so
it
had
been
in
one
family
for
for
all
of
its
existence.
F
So
what
is
on
the
top
here
is
what
you
would
see
from
crichton
streets,
so
that
would
be
removing
that
sort
of
funny
hipped
roof.
That
was
added
in
the
1990s
and
building
a
second
storey
on
top
of
the
building
to
complete
the
original
design.
As
you
see
here,
the
building
is
currently
yellow
brick.
The
proposal
is
to
tint
that
brick
red,
because
getting
book
that
matches
the
existing
brick
is
proving
to
be
very
difficult.
F
F
You
will
be
seeing
additional
height
along
a
long
different
road
well
for
the
whole
building.
The
existing
building
is
approximately
five
point.
One
meters,
the
resulting
building,
would
be
seven
point
three
and
then
the
piece
here
at
the
back
is
the
new
unit
that
you'll
see
funding
on
two
different
Road.
F
F
You'll
see
here
at
the
top
in
the
grayed
out
area,
there
is
a
rooftop
projection.
It
is
set
back
onto
the
roof
so
that
it
won't
be
visible
from
the
street.
I
mean
you.
You
would
never
be
at
this
angle
that
you
see
here
in
elevation
view
and
there
would
be
a
rooftop
terrace,
provided
the
parking
space
for
the
second
unit
at
the
back
is
provided
underneath
this
back
back
porch,
which
you'll
see
in
the
next
slide,
but
so
the
access
remains
off
of
River
Lane,
which
is
where
the
current
access
for
the
property
is.
F
These
are
just
a
couple
of
perspectives
and
as
always
with
perspectives,
you
know
they
aren't.
They
are
meant
to
form
part
of
the
approvals
we
look
more
at
the
elevations,
but
there
to
provide
some
information
about
what
the
project
might
look
like
when
it's
completed
so
showing
the
existing
and
then
showing
the
proposed
at
the
corner
of
Dufferin
and
Creighton
and
then
from
the
rear.
So
you
can
see
here
on
the
bottom
image.
This
is
River
Lane,
it's
not
quite
the
exact
angle,
but
River
Lane
would
be
here
at
the
back.
F
These
images
are
useful
in
helping
understand
the
impact
of
the
proposal.
The
top
image
shows
the
existing
condition
at
Crichton
and
Dufferin.
The
second
image
shows
the
existing.
Oh
sorry,
the
proposed
condition
and
again
looking
along
Creighton
Street.
Here
you
see
the
existing
building
and
then
the
proposed
building
superimposed.
F
The
guidelines
for
this
that
are
applicable
to
this
application
include
section
3.2,
which
talks
about
the
objectives
of
the
guidelines,
which
is
to
encourage
the
conservation
and
or
sympathetic
renovation
of
buildings
in
the
district,
and
then
section
3.3
has
specific
guidelines
related
to
additions
that
aim
to
ensure
that
the
historic
building
the
dominant
presence
in
the
streetscape.
However,
as
you
can
see
from
my
sort
of
lengthy
explanation
of
the
project,
it
is
sort
of
an
unusual
project
and
it
was
instead
valuated
for
its
overall
impact
on
the
character
of
the
existing
building.
F
Section
three
point:
four:
is
the
streetscape
guidelines
so
maintain
existing
Street,
its
trees,
SOI
and
plant
new
ones,
and
then
maintain
the
Vernon
Creek
green
character
of
the
laneways
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
proposal
includes
the
removal
of
a
large
amount
of
ash
falls
along
the
west
side
of
the
property
and
replacement
with
soft
landscaping.
And
again,
no
new
access
would
be
created
from
River
Lane
and
there
would
be
no
loss
of
of
trees
at
the
back
of
the
property.
F
We
also
looked
at
the
standards
and
guidelines
for
the
conservation
of
Historic
Places
in
Canada.
As
part
of
this
proposal,
the
applicable
standards
are
standard,
one
which
is
conserve
the
value
of
the
historic
place.
The
department
feels
that
the
proposal
does
conserve
the
value
of
the
new
Edinburgh
HCD
and
reflects
the
ongoing
incremental
development
of
new
Edinburgh
as
an
important
historical
trend.
F
So
the
second
floor
addition
would
be
differentiated
from
the
earlier
building
and
the
real
addition
is
set
in
and
clad
in
a
subordinate
material
which
makes
it
distinguishable
as
well
a
cultural
heritage.
Impact
statement
was
prepared
as
a
part
of
this
project
and
is
attached
as
a
document
to
the
report,
it
was
prepared
by
Mark
Thompson
Branton
Associates
Architects.
F
It
concludes
that
the
proposal
has
significantly
more
positive
impact
than
negative
impact
on
the
character
of
the
new
Edinburgh
Heritage
Conservation
District.
However,
it
does
propose
a
couple
of
mitigation
measures.
The
first
is
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
rail
addition
by
enough
to
sort
of
differentiate
it
as
an
addition
at
the
rear
and
that
other
other
cladding
materials
could
be
explored.
It
does
say
that
the
proposed
wood
siding
is
appropriate,
but
that
other
cladding
materials
could
also
be
appropriate.
F
Those
mitigation
measures
have
not
been
implemented
by
the
applicant
oops
in
terms
of
consultation,
Harwich
ottawa
was
consulted
and
their
comments
are
included
in
the
staff
report.
They
generally
support
the
proposal
that
they
do
also
support
the
mitigation
measures
that
were
proposed
by
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement.
The
new
edinburgh
community
alliance
also
was
consulted,
the
applicant
met
with
them
and
they
provided
the
city
with
lengthy
comments
on
the
proposal.
They
do
not
support
it.
The
comments
are
included
as
an
attachment
to
the
report.
F
Generally
it
they
they
stay
to
and
I'm
sure
somebody
is
here
from
NECA,
so
I
won't
go
into
it
too
much,
but
basically
that
the
existing
building
is
is
important
and
should
remain
as
as
an
existing
bungalow,
and
that
the
proposed
addition
is
is
too
large.
Neighbors
within
30
metres
of
the
property
were
also
notified
of
the
application
by
way
of
letter,
as
is
our
standard
practice
and
I,
believe
the
committee
has
received
at
least
one
response
by
letter
to
that
circulation.
F
So,
in
conclusion,
the
department
supports
this
application
because
it
meets
the
intentions
and
objectives
of
the
Heritage
Conservation
District.
It
retains
and
enhances
an
existing
building.
It
meets
the
standards
and
guidelines
and
it
provides
an
appropriate
gateway
to
the
HCD
and
then
finally
I
think
it's
it's
it's
an
interesting
project
from
a
heritage
perspective,
as
I
said,
we
sort
of
grappled
with
the
idea
of
they're.
F
Not
it
was
falsifying
history
or
not,
but
we
thought
it
was
in
the
end
sort
of
an
interesting
infill
project
on
the
building
that
really
have
lost
much
of
its
integrity.
With
the
addition
of
that
hipped
roof
in
in
1994
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
committee
might
have
and
I'm
sorry
that
my
presentation
was
lengthy.
B
D
You
very
much
I
think
it's
an
excellent
proposal.
It's
a
great
example
of
NFL
and
I.
Think
it
is.
It
strikes
me
as
being
a
sensitive
and
for
the
one
concern
I
had
was
the
you
mentioned
that
the
ground
floor,
the
existing
brick
is
going
to
be
kept
and
that
new
brick
will
be
added
on
top
and
that
the
ground
floor
brick
will
be
tinted
to
match
the
new
brick
up
top.
D
F
Three-Man,
chair
I
would
tend
to
agree
that
I
had
I
had
some
concerns
with
the
proposal
to
tint
the
brick.
My
my
preference
would
have
been
to
keep
the
yellow,
brick
and
add
more
yellow
brick,
but
the
size
and
profile
and
color
of
the
existing
brick
as
proven
very
difficult
to
match.
The
applicant
has
shown
me
that
they've
gone
through
a
sort
of
extensive
process
in
trying
to
find
something
that
matches
I.
F
A
F
F
So
that's
that's
where
I
think
the
the
discussion
in
in
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
came
from
in
terms
of
recommending
reduction
of
the
height
of
the
addition
at
the
rear,
so
that
it
appears
to
be
distinguished
from
the
historic
building
and
and
subordinate
to
it.
That's
something
that
if
the
applicant
chose
to
do
I
think
would
be
a
good
measure
from
a
staff
perspective.
We
didn't
feel
strongly
enough
about
it
that
it
was
something
that
we
were
going
to
make
conditional
make
the
approval
recommendation
conditional
upon
okay.
C
You
and
remember
Quinn.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
will
support
comments
made
by
member
Smallwood
in
terms
of
the
project
itself
and
the
addition
to
the
existing
historic
building.
I,
don't
have
any
concerns
about
that
either.
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
rear
addition
again
addressing
what
to
member
Hobbs
councillor
Hobbs
has
has
said:
I
was
in
the
Mecca
letter
that
was
submitted
with
the
package.
There's
mention
of
the
guidelines
governing
additions
to
existing
houses
of
the
size.
C
F
F
Sorry,
okay:
here
we
go
so
the
if
you,
if
you
consider
the
historic,
historic
building
as
I'm,
going
to
call
it
as
its
own
entity
and
not
included
in
the
30%.
The
additional
increase
in
gross
floor
area
gross
floor
area
is
nineteen
point
six,
seven
percent,
okay,
because
the
existing
garage
addition
would
be
removed,
but
that's
included
in
okay,
the
gross
floor
area
today.
So
the
increase
is
about
20
percent.
Not
so
it
is
under
okay,.
G
F
C
B
H
B
I
The
heritage
and
Development
Committee
of
Mecca
has
reviewed
the
plans
for
this
project
and
the
list
of
requested
variances
and
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement.
The
committee
does
not
support
the
redevelopment
being
proposed
in
this
application.
The
committee's
observations
and
comments
are
outlined
under
the
following
headings:
the
lack
of
adherence
to
the
new
embryo
heritage
conservation
guidelines,
dismissing
the
value
of
the
existing
house
as
a
suitable
gateway
property
and
three,
the
misuse
of
River
Lane
to
access
on-site
parking.
I
The
primary
aim
of
the
new
Enberg
heritage
conservation
district
plan
was,
and
still
is,
to
preserve
and
enhance
the
historic
village
character
of
nieuwenburg.
This
was
to
be
accomplished
through
the
application
of
guidelines
that
would
direct
this
management
of
the
HCD
to
ensure
the
retention
and
conservation
of
the
district's
heritage
resources.
The
meaning
and
intent
of
the
words
which
describe
the
primary
aim
of
the
HCD
plan
are
not
ambiguous.
I
The
word
preserve,
as
defined
in
the
canadian
oxford
dictionary,
means
to
keep
safe
or
free
from
harm,
to
maintain
something
in
its
existing
state
and
to
keep
and
to
keep
undisturbed
for
protection.
So
what
do
we,
as
custodians
of
our
HCD,
want
to
keep
undisturbed
for
protection,
primarily
new,
embrace
historic
village
characteristics
which
were
modest,
small-scale
houses,
rural
style,
laneways,
tree-lined
streets?
Long?
There
are
lots
of
landscape
backyards.
Guidelines
governing
additions
to
existing
houses
are
clear.
I
The
height
of
the
walls
and
height
of
the
slope
of
the
roof
must
not
exceed
those
of
the
original
building.
The
side
yard
setback
must
be
60
centimetres
greater
than
that
of
the
original
building,
and
the
size
is
limited.
30%
of
the
existing
structures
gross
floor
area.
The
existing
building
must
remain
the
dominant
presence
in
the
streetscape.
In
this
redevelopment
proposal,
the
rear
addition
is
not
designed
to
honor
the
HCP
guidelines
pertaining
to
additions,
which
specifically
address
the
relationship
between
the
proposed
addition
and
the
original
building
fronting
on
the
streetscape.
I
In
this
case,
the
size
and
form
of
the
proposed
addition
is
based
on
a
1945
plan
which
added
a
second
story
to
the
original
house,
which
was
never
built.
Looking
at
drawings
of
the
earlier
proposal
may
be
interesting,
but
it
is
irrelevant
when
considering
what
is
appropriate
for
this
site.
The
reality
is
that
there's
a
one-story
bungalow
on
this
prime
corner
of
Creighton
and
Duffin.
I
That
has
to
be
recognized
as
the
starting
point
for
any
proposal
for
this
property,
as
it
stands
now
far
from
respecting
the
integrity
of
this
modest
structure,
the
two
proposed
additions
were
on
top
of
the
house
and
a
second
in
the
rear,
effectively
surround
and
obliterate.
The
original
house
in
the
CH
is
under
the
section
two
section
describing
surroundings
and
adjacent
properties.
I
It
says
quote
the
mix
of
contemporary
and
older
structures,
the
mix
of
Street
setbacks,
the
mix
of
residential
and
institutional
forms,
the
mix
of
materials
and
open
spaces
all
view
this
corner
a
variety
of
character
and
delightful
lack
of
cohesiveness.
This
corner
is
also
important
because
it
marks
the
entrance
into
the
historic
district.
The
property
in
question
is
classified
as
a
level
2
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
because
of
his
status
as
a
gateway
property,
which
makes
this
retention
in
its
present
form
important
after
watching
poetic
about
the
ecliptic
characteristics
of
the
corner.
I
This
the
H
CH,
is
offers
up
a
number
of
observations
which
throw
a
disparaging
light
on
the
way
bond
alone.
Under
the
heading
of
property
description
it
states
this
existing
residence
is
characterized
by
as
high
ranch,
bungalow
one-story
form,
which
is
an
aberration
in
the
district
later
in
the
document
in
the
section
summarizing
the
positive
negative
impacts
on
identified
heritage
values,
the
author
justifies
and
in
fact
promotes
the
alteration
of
the
existing
house
by
saying
the
existing
uncharacteristically
low
building
is
unsuitable
as
a
gateway
and
therefore
additional
height
and
volume
is
appropriate.
I
This
is
followed
by
proposal
is
for
two
storeys,
which
is
much
more
compatible
with
the
immediate
and
within
the
immediate
context,
and
therefore
a
better
gateway
building
than
the
existing
incompatible
bungalow
having
celebrated
diversity,
which
is
one
of
the
assets
in
the
HCD.
To
protect
the
author,
who
the
author
wants
to
change
the
look
of
the
bungalow
and
turn
it
into
something
that
better
matches
several
other
large-scale
structures
in
the
vicinity?
A
critical
point
is
being
missed
here.
The
bungalow
has
existed
in
its
present
form,
with
the
exception
of
a
roof
alteration
since
1945.
I
It
has
been
part
of
the
new
ember
HCD
since
2000,
whether
one
likes
the
architectural
style
or
not,
is
irrelevant.
It
represents
a
particular
moment
in
the
history
of
new
embers
of
always
evolving
streetscapes,
there's
no
justification
and
turning
it
into
something
that
it
is
not.
The
redevelopment
proposal
also
involves
accessing
the
property
fronting
on
creighton
and
the
rear
edition
via
a
new
driveway
of
River
Lane.
I
Next
to
a
lane,
the
proponent
plans
had
divided
the
existing
property
into
two
parts,
with
one
dwelling
unit
for
fronting
on
creighton
and
the
second
dwelling
unit
fronting
on
the
doctrine
road
under
Section
59
of
the
city's
bylaws
frontage
on
a
public
street,
it
states
no
person
shall
develop
or
otherwise
use
any
lot
unless
that
land
abuts
an
approved
public
street
and
has
a
means
of
access
to
the
street.
That
coincides
with
the
part
of
the
law
which
abuts
that
street.
I
In
this
case,
the
dwelling
facing
Creighton
should
be
accessed
from
that
street
and
the
second
dwelling
should
be
accessed
by
a
dorm.
This
issue
of
increased
demands
from
developers
to
access
properties
from
the
lanes
and
the
willingness
of
the
city
to
acquiesce
to
these
demands
contributes
to
the
degradation
of
the
HCV
mecca.
Does
not
this
proposal
in
its
present
form?
It
virtually
eliminates
the
existing
house
by
incorporating
it
into
a
much
larger
structure.
I
The
two
additions
combined
to
erase
the
principle
combine
to
raise
the
principle
in
the
HDD
guidelines
by
the
guidelines
back
by
the
Heritage
overlay.
Zoning
bylaw
of
having
the
existing
house
be
the
dominant
presence
in
the
streetscape
and
because
of
its
size
and
lasting.
The
proposed
structure
creates
a
wall
along
the
front
reminiscent
of
historic
military
forts.
In
the
opinion
of
the
committee,
the
original
bungalow
must
remain
intact
with
no
second
floor.
I
Alternatively,
if
the
developer
proceeds
with
his
proposed
plan
to
sever
the
real
addition
portion
of
the
property
from
the
bungalow
and
thereby
creating
two
distinct
parcels,
this
opens
up
the
possibility
of
building
a
second
house
not
attached
to
the
bungalow
on
the
rear
portion
of
the
law.
This
dwelling
could
be
accessed
by
a
Dufferin
Road
a
public
street
and
would
respect
the
bylaw
which
does
not
permit
vehicle
access
from
the
lanes.
I
B
I
I
kind
of
got
about
two
sentences
left.
That's
off
like
that
permission
to
the
neck
would
strongly
adores
a
solution
as
the
bungalow
would
not
be
compromised
and
breathing
space
would
be
created
between
the
two
buildings,
thereby
eliminating
the
long
solid
wall
which
is
part
of
the
peasant
proposal,
and
it
would
ensure
that
the
existing
structure
representing
the
particular
period
of
new
members
history
remains
the
dominant
feature
of
this
Gateway
corner.
Thank.
B
B
G
G
It
could
be
lowered
and
I
would
be
open
to
doing
so
at
the
direction
of
this
committee
or
other
decision
makers
that
follow
it
would
assist
in
the
subordination
of
the
rear
addition,
but
in
doing
so
would
also
reduce
the
ability
for
us
to
screen
the
accessible
rooftop
that
we're
also
proposing
for
our
rear
addition
only
something
that
certainly
is
prevalent
throughout
the
neighbor.
We
see
many
examples
of
rooftop
penthouses
both
on
new
buildings,
as
well
as
many
older
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
and
by
extending
the
parapet
higher.
G
We
frankly
provide
more
privacy
for
our
neighbors
that
surround
from
the
elevations
that
miss
Collins
showed
earlier.
I
did
know
to
a
figure
standing
on
the
sidewalk
in
a
dashed
line
that
provides
one
an
idea
of
what
one
or
perhaps
more
specifically,
could
not
see
from
the
sidewalks
that
surround
the
the
subject
property.
You
can
see
those
elevations
so,
on
the
left-hand
side,
a
figure
standing
on
me,
Clayton
Street
sidewalk,
of
course,
cannot
see
the
projection
to
the
rear,
but,
more
importantly,
I
think
from
river
lane
to
the
right.
G
B
And
they
have
just
one
other
question
about
the
door
for
accessibility,
I'm,
just
wondering
is
it
the
intent,
but
you
have
just
two
owners,
releasers
or
whatever
of
the
property
or
the
accessible
doors,
that
more
about
opening
up
a
conversion
unit
for
the
sub-basement
like?
Are
we
going
to
be
seeing
a
situation
if
we
approve
this,
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
multi
situation,
which
is
something
that
council
doesn't
support
to
a
great
degree,
I'm.
G
Sure
the
original
proposal
for
the
property
back
in
1945,
or
perhaps
some
time
before,
that
was
for
a
three
unit,
rental
building-
that
development
has
obviously
not
yet
been
completed.
What
is
one
site
currently
is
a
two
unit,
rental
building
or
a
primary
residence
with
a
secondary
suite
in
the
basement.
Both
are
current.
G
A
G
Miss
Collins
mentioned
earlier
it.
It
is
a
point
that
we
have
discussed
that,
like
the
clotting
of
the
existing
building
or
the
proposed
addition,
is
something
that
I
am
completely
open
to
considering
and
reconsidering
again,
the
proposal
is
the
best
option
that
I
was
able
to
arrive
at,
but
if,
through
the
direction
of
this
committee,
you
would
like
me
to
continue
exploring
other
options
that
don't
involve
tinting
of
the
existing
brick
I'd
be
pleased
to
do
that.
D
Follow-Up
in
your
mind,
I
just
can't
imagine
that
in
ten
years
it's
not
going
to
look
strange.
The
brick
is,
of
course,
material
and
attempting
to
put
a
pigment
on
one
section
of
the
brick
and
not
the
other
at
some
point
or
other,
though
they're
going
to
change
they're
gonna
weather
differently
and
the
building's
gonna
look
strange
of.
D
C
F
C
F
Yes,
you
will
see
I'm,
you
know
I'm
in
along
much
of
the
rollin,
that's
where
the
garages
are
for
Crichton,
Street
properties
and
from
a
planning
perspective.
We
would
not
support
the
addition
of
another
driveway
on
Crichton
Street
and
when
there's
an
existing
access
on
River
Lane.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
H
F
Three,
madam
chair,
we
discussed
the
clotting
at
length.
It
is
my
opinion
that
if
we
are
looking
at,
if
the
theory
behind
looking
at
this
proposal
is
that
the
front
portion
is
a
historic
building
and
the
back
portion
is
in
addition,
then
the
addition
should
be
clad
in
a
different
material.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
wood.
It
could
be
something
else.
It
could
be
brick
I,
you
know,
I
mean
there's,
there's
many
many
options
here,
I
think
I,
think
other
solutions
might
also
be
appropriate.
F
B
H
H
H
By
the
time
it
gets
back
to
us,
we'd
be
long
past.
This
age,
yeah
I,
looked
at
it
and
I
looked
at
the
clapboard
Edition
on
the
back,
which
now
I
heared
may
not
have
even
had
a
building
parent
and
I.
Don't
know
that
it
adds
anything
to
the
to
the
district.
I,
look
at
the
the
proposal
and
look
at
it
in
on
the
streetscape
with
the
with
the
building
in
it,
and
it
does
not
take
anything
away
from
the
Heritage.
Conservation
in
fact
might
be
argued
it.
H
It
is
an
enhancement
so
in
a
sort
of
mixed
emotions
that
that
it
is
not
all
that
modern,
bricken
stone
and
glass
that
we've
we're
seeing
on
infill
everywhere
else.
It's
an
attempt
really
to
to
respect
heritage
site
from
what.
From
that
point
of
view,
I'm
I'm
disposed
to
be
supportive
of
staffs
opinion,
which
is
something
new
for
Leslie.
E
Madam
chair,
this
submission,
as
Leslie
said,
is
well
for
the
unique
one
where
the
applicant
has
found
a
set
of
architectural
drawings
and
proposes
to
construct
what
was
originally
intended
to
1945
and
construct.
It
now
I
think
that
I'd
like
to
draw
attention
to
Gale
mccarran's
submission.
Her
arguments
were
eloquent.
They
are
so
rational
and
they
are
a
model
of
how
to
examine
conservation,
district
guidelines
and
also
the
standards
and
guidelines
for
Historic
Places
in
Canada
and
measure
applications
against
them.
E
I
really
have
to
congratulate
Gale
because
they
are
so
eloquent,
and
so
clear-
and
probably
this
case
study
is
one
that
could
be
devoted.
You
know
say
an
hour
at
the
next
heritage
Canada
conference,
because
it
raises
a
lot
of
issues
about
the
logic
of
guidelines
and
how
proposals
like
this,
one,
which
I
have
to
say
I'm,
going
to
support.
It
is
taking
a
step
backwards
and
saying
it's
a
reasonable
proposal.
E
It
does
not
actually
fit
the
guidelines
and
I
think
that
there's
a
learning
curve
here
for
all
of
us,
including
heritage
communities
across
the
country
that
this
case
study
will
illustrate.
So,
having
said
that,
I
think
that
I
would,
you
know,
go
on
record
as
supporting
the
staff
recommendation,
even
though
the
reasoning
is
so
convoluted
in
the
end.
I
think
you
got
it
right,
but
this
is
something
not
only
to
help
us
have
much
less
hubris
when
it
comes
to
pontificate
about
heritage
and
development.
Thank.
B
H
B
B
H
B
J
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
start
a
very
preliminary
start
to
looking
at
a
Beaverbrook
heritage.
District
like
what
I've
done
is
prepared.
A
slide
show
a
PowerPoint
presentation
to
give
you
sort
of
an
outline,
but
this
is
not
definitely
going
to
be
the
final,
because
that
is
more
to
make
you
aware
of
the
thing
and
I'm
really
happy
to
be
have
here
with
us
bill
tear
on
the
father
of
Kannada.
He
calls
me
the
mother
of
Kannada,
so
the
two
of
us
have
to
be
careful
so
that
people
know
we're
not
married.
J
We
also
have
his
son
Chris
here,
who
has
been
helpful
in
getting
pictures
that
you'll
see
here
for
me
and
the
president
of
the
Community
Association
Gary
sue
Lee
is
here
and
if
several
other
members
of
the
community
are
here
as
well,
because
the
community
is
extremely
interested
in
this,
this
is
something
that's
being
brought
from.
The
community
up
at
is
close
to
somebody
else,
bringing
it
down.
The
council
last
fall
passed.
J
This
motion
I'll
go
through
it,
but
basically
was
to
bring
forward
in
their
priority,
setting
that
we
would
do
a
study
of
Beaverbrook
as
a
heritage
study,
and
that's
indicated
they
would
need
money
next
year
to
do
the
study.
What
the
community
has
said
was
we'll
start
the
study
now
and
do
as
much
as
we
can,
so
that
will
reduce
the
cost
to
the
city
and
have
much
more
community
involvement
in
doing
it.
So
this
is
sort
of
the
beginning
of
that.
So
this
is
what
I'll
be
going
through
today.
J
Why
and
how
I
have
to
go
back
to
how
Canada
was
started
because
Beaverbrook
is
an
integral
part
of
that
and
you
can't
really
quite
separate
some
parts
of
it.
I
have
sent
you
two
documents,
one
that
that's
talk,
that
bill
Tara
did
a
couple
of
years
ago,
which
has
a
lot
of
information
about
Beaverbrook
in
it
as
well
as
Canada,
and
the
standards
that
we've
developed
in
1972
after
bill
had
taken.
The
bill
was
no
longer
involved
indirectly
in
Kannada
at
that
time
and
the
community
was
concerned.
J
That's
coming
in
the
community,
they're
still
very
valid,
so
you've
had
those
two
documents
already
so
the
first
one
is
why
Delta's
designated
it
fever
Brooks
has
been
considered
to
be
a
very
unique
way
of
concept
and
it's
still
used
in
planning
schools
across
the
country
as
an
example
of
a
form
of
development,
and
so
in
that
way
it's
unique
in
Ottawa
and
it's
somewhat
different
and
has
stood
the
test
of
time.
It's
let
me
fifty
years
old
next
year
and
frankly,
it
has
still
got
his
character.
J
Its
original
character
is
still
there
and
that's
quite
unusual
for
a
period
of
time
like
that.
If
I
want
to
say
this
is
not
about
the
building
form
per
se.
So
it's
not
saying
each
individual
building
has
to
be
studied
and
evaluated.
It's
about
the
community
and
the
community
content
and
look
and
I
think
that's
a
little
different
than
most
of
the
ones
that
you've
had
done
and
we're
going
to
have
to
work
out
how
to
do
that.
J
So
that
doesn't
create
a
great
deal
of
extra
work
for
staff
and
having
to
look
at
every
single
building
every
every
time
we
had
a
petition
from
400
aeneas
to
move
in
this
direction.
So
that's
what
started
it.
It's
an
example
of
a
community
that
most
meets
the
Garden
City
concept,
which
is
not
a
common
one
used
in
Canada,
but
it
has
been
used
elsewhere
and
we
had
also,
if
Beaverbrook,
all
the
names
of
streets.
J
Everything
is
done,
but
Canadian
names
and
so
that
I
live
on
Farley
Drive
and
all
the
streets
off
Farley
Drive,
which
is
a
collector,
are
named
after
Canadian
painters
and
Leacock
drive
is
named
after
writers
and
composers
and
Penfield
drive
is
after
scientists
and
doctors.
So
there's
a
real
theme.
That's
done
right
through
it.
That
gives
a
big
pride
of
location
and
school
still
to
this
day,
get
their
kids
to,
and
the
younger
Sheldon
say.
J
There's
bill
when
he
was
doing
kanata,
that's
the
much
nice
of
them.
I
didn't
want
to
use
picture
today,
because
this
is
when
he
started
off
he's
very
young
man.
So
this
is
very
unusual
and
what
he
did
was
to
create
what
we
call
the
kinetic
concept
and
his
idea
was
that
he
wanted
to
heaven
and
doing
a
suburb
or
a
develop.
That's
a
bit
here
a
bit
here.
J
It
a
bit
here,
get
enough
land
whole
city,
so
he
actually
bought
up
more
than
3000
acres
of
land
and
he
planned
the
entire
city
of
for
60,000
people
and
interesting
enough.
The
part
that
bill
had
is
running
into,
but
that
population
even
250
years
later,
it's
really
quite
interesting
and
it
was
to
be
a
satellite
town
to
the
area
outside
the
green
bill.
He
liked
the
idea
of
the
garden
city
or
housing,
jobs,
education,
shop
and
Creative
Recreation
and
all
in
there
are
all
adapted
into
the
natural
environments.
J
J
I
went
to
a
number
of
these
talents
to
study
them,
as
well
as
we're
developing
kanata
in
the
later
stages,
so
I've
been
in
East
Kilbride
to
what
they
had
a
a
Commonwealth
conference
on
new
towns
in
East
Kilbride
that
I
attended
and
went
to
a
number
of
them
in
England
and
Scotland
taught
viola
in
Finland
I've
been
there
rested
in
Colombia
in
the
United.
States
are
two
examples
of
garden
cities,
and
you
can
read
about
these
as
I
say
bill.
He
went
all
over
the
world,
he
went
to
Japan
and
other
cities
as
well.
J
So
this
is
the
first
concept
that
we
had.
So
this
is
the
orange
area
is
roughly
the
area
that
was
fought.
I
mean
see
whether
the
417
was
to
come
through,
but
it
wasn't
built
at
that
time.
There
was
a
sign
right
here
that
I
was
laughte,
because
that's
when
I
moved
there,
it's
a
it,
had
a
great
big
billboard
right
there
and
it
said
11
minutes
to
downtown
Ottawa
and
it
was
a
field
right.
We
had
imagined
mate.
We've
always
had
to
have
imagination
in
Kanata
but
baby.
J
So
these
are
the
some
of
the
cells
of
walks,
which
will
be
communities
or
business
areas
or
the
town
centre
along
that.
So
he
started
with
this
sort
of
a
thematic
look
at
what
in
the
whole
city
would
look
like
right
and
then
from
that
he
to
do
the
location
of
where
he'd
buy
this
land
up.
He
has
some
some
things
in
mind
that
I
can
remember
from
those
days
he
didn't
want
to
use
good
agricultural
land.
J
Now
we're
finding
out
is
good
environmental
land,
but
at
that
time
that's
and
they
wanted
to
be
on
the
root
of
the
417,
because
that
would
give
access
into
the
main
city
inch
is
a
important
thing.
Part
of
it,
but
really
critical
was
nature,
was
to
be
the
spirit
of
Canali
and
everything
that
was
done.
J
It
was
to
be
a
very
broad
range
and
a
broad
range
of
income
so
that
you
could
live
in
there
as
a
and
you
could
have
your
cleaning
woman
live
in
the
same
community
because
there
was
different
types
of
housing,
different
ranges
of
income
so
that
his
design
showed
housing
area
schools,
Technology
Park,
which
is
unusual
in
those
days
the
town
center
was
the
whole
idea
was
as
a
whole
cities.
You
need
a
town
center
schools
golf
and,
but
also
that
part
of
the
nature
was
the
golf
course.
J
The
lake,
which
was
we
built,
the
the
the
writing
stable,
which
was
there
originally
with
my
daughter,
learned
to
ride,
act
and
distinct
boundaries
between
the
community
community
of
housing
was
to
have
a
separation
for
many
other
communities.
You
have
a
pretty
strong
identity
for
community
and
the
first
one,
and
that's
still
to
this
day,
true
in
Canada
for
all
the
ones,
even
with
the
amalgamation
we've
been
able
to
do
that,
so
the
ones
coming
in
from
goober
and
kept
their
own
character
at
once.
Coming
from
from
Nepean
kept
its
own
character.
E
J
J
He
also
wanted
all
the
services
to
be
out
of
sight.
So
that's
why
this
is
one
of
the
very
first
places
in
Canada,
where
you
have
everything
underground
for
hydro,
which,
unfortunately,
the
City
of
Ottawa
no
longer
does,
but
that
was
to
maintain
the
natural
you
didn't
want
to
have
the
and
things
taking
away
from
the
trees
and
and
and
the
environment.
You
know
maybe
what
was
to
be
the
first
community
and
Bill
actually
built
when
I've
moved
to
Canada
in
68.
J
What
really
struck
me
was
I
went
into
the
sales
office
and
that
Center
it
was
a
huge
plan
models,
plant
model
of
the
entire
city
of
60,000,
and
then
it
was
about
3,000
first,
but
a
third
of
deeper
prep
was
built.
That
was
all,
and
yet
the
vision
was
there
and
that
vision
was
what
attracted
me
and,
and
so
many
others
who
went
to
kanata
because
they
could
see
what
was
what
happened
and
that's.
This
is
what
I
feel
about
a
Garden
City.
J
It's
my
own
views
on
it,
but
it's
a
place
where
you
preserve
natural
features.
Where
you
can
you
use
a
lot
of
open
space
areas,
including
on
private
development.
The
apartment
building
in
Canada
has
a
very
low
density
because
of
all
the
open
space
that
is
incorporated
on
its
lands,
the
Rays
would
follow
contours
and
rather
than
blasting
away
like
they
do
today,
they,
whatever
possible
existing
trees
and
rock
outcrops,
are
preserved.
The
natural
creeps
are
kept,
so
the
drainage
was
done
national,
instead
of
putting
it
in
pipes
and
pathways
were
doing
along.
J
Those
creeks
areas
of
high
density
were
placed
near
the
creeks
or
evergreen
spaces.
To
give
space
around
that
the
higher
density
areas
are
even
our
rent
to
income.
Housing
for
seniors
is
on
a
ravine
felt
at
the
time,
and
that
was
built
in
the
70s.
Why
should
poor
people
live
in
a
less
advantageous
place?
Let
them
have
it's
nicer
places
anybody
else.
So
that's
what
this
happened
when
it
did
Beaverbrook.
J
So
the
concept
of
community
was
a
big
part
of
this.
Canada
was
designed
to
have
a
number
of
communities
each
with
their
own
character,
so
they
don't
have
to
be
all
the
same
and
that's
what
some
people
don't
recognize
in
the
kid,
but
they
were
to
be
buffered
in
a
case
of
Beaverbrook,
you
had
the
Greenbelt
on
one
side
and
on
the
other
side
between
it
and
Kenai
Lakes.
J
It's
part
of
the
golf
course,
so
the
golf
course
becomes
that
buffer
to
the
the
south,
you
have
or
doubts
now
camp
or
drive,
but
you
go
there
from
there
into
the
town
center
area,
and
that
is
a
distinct
lake
from
there
and
to
the
north.
With
the
technology
park,
there
comes
a
break
towards
the
other
communities,
so
they're
all
buffered
by
that,
but
have
access
to
each
of
them
and
even
the
Greenbelt.
J
J
J
J
This
is
a
photo
to
foggy.
This
is
the
top
one.
Here
is
on
Tiffany
one
of
the
earlier
streets,
you'll
see
the
rock
outcrop
there
and
how
it
was
left
and
the
houses
were
built
around
it.
So
he
didn't
blast
it
away.
That
Street
was
laid
out
without
major
curbs,
there's
not
concrete
curbs
here.
They
had
like
a
short
sculptures.
I
mostly
disappeared
over
time,
but
it
keeps
the
streets
sort
of
blend
into
the
to
the
landscaping.
J
So
the
concept
of
living
of
nature
is
that
you
can
do
beaver,
because
the
beaver
pond
actually
has
usually
beaver.
I.
Have
people
complaining
about
deer
eating
their
hedges?
I've
listened
to
the
Coyotes.
I
know
that
goes
out
to
through
into
the
community,
to
get
food
and
warn
people
about
their
small
animals,
but
most
of
their
efforts
and
swirls.
On
things.
Lots
of
different
types
of
birds,
something
like
over
400
I've
prefered
we've
had
a
bear,
go
through
the
neighborhood
a
couple
of
times.
J
We've
got
to
make
ease,
but
that's
common
and
the
residential
areas,
rather
than
having
a
tree
in
front
of
every
house.
They
have
groupings
of
trees.
So
it
gives
you
the
feeling
of
being.
In
a
bit
of
a
forest
and
some
houses.
My
house
had
no
tree.
We
had
got
our
own
trees
because
I
wasn't
a
place
where
Terence
saw
he
would
after
that
was
built.
He
would
drive
around
and
say
we
need
three
trees
there
and
two
there.
He
actually
visualized
the
landscaping,
as
opposed
to
doing
that
on
a
plan
ahead
of
time.
J
J
So
there
that's
one
that
I
think
I've
already
showed
you
go
and
beaver
book
itself
then,
which
is
brought
the
beaver.
Brick
was
based
on
the
principles
of
mobility
of
the
tricycle
and
people
say:
what's
some
ability
the
tricycle,
it's
the
idea
that
a
child
from
their
home
can
safely
go
in
a
tricycle
in
the
immediate
neighbourhood
and
that's
where
the
parks
and
the
pathways
came
into
it,
and
then
from
that
she
went
on
to
two
other
aspects
of
it.
It's
designed
with
three
neighbourhoods.
J
I'll
show
you
the
plan
in
a
minute,
each
with
its
own
collector
or
with
clusters
of
homes,
and
we
still
call
them.
Clusters
that
are
connected
to
the
a
collector
or
school
site
would
be
in
the
center
of
that
with
an
adjacent
park
and
ones.
One
of
the
neighborhoods
has
two
schools,
because
it
has
a
separate
school
as
well
as
the
public.
This
was
before
we
had
the
specialized
schools
that
we
have
today
and
each
had.
Every
cluster
of
homes
had
parkland
on
at
least
one
side
and
walkways
from
the
cluster
to
the
Parkway.
J
J
On
my
honest
on
the
south
side,
this
is
the
early
March
high
school,
that's
at
the
edge
of
the
community,
so
it
serves
more
a
broader
area,
that's
not
just
for
the
community.
These
white
spots
were
here
and
above
have
been
incorporated
into
the
community,
since
this
is
a
townhouse
development
and
this
is
up,
and
then
this
is
Terry
Matthews
complex
in
there
and
there's
a
condominium
complex
in
here
that
wasn't
there
then,
but
you
can
see
the
clusters
of
homes.
This
is
Tiffany.
This
is
Pentland
this
and
well.
This
is
Kingsford.
J
Each
of
them
have
adjacent
green
space.
The
school
is
right
here
so
in
this
one.
So
there's
pathways
that
go
through
here
and
through
here
and
through
here
to
get
to
that
school
and
you
can
actually
come
from
the
kanata
Lakes
area,
which
is
up
in
this
area
through
this
park.
Here,
there's
a
pathway,
so
the
children
up
there
come
through
this
pathway
and
across
to
the
school
and
that
pathway
is
maintained
going
to
right
across
the
golf
course.
This
is
the
very
neighborhood
which
one
I
live
in
it
has.
J
The
two
schools
is
a
slightly
larger
complex
that
has
more
it's
more
clusters
in
fellin
boardwalk
car.
These
are
all
the
artists
in
this
area.
This
is
a
color
of
the
condominiums.
You
can
see
the
condominium.
This
is
a
rental
unit,
so
you
can
see
in
the
center
of
then
it's
Oakland.
They
have
a
green
space
in
the
middle.
This
big
green
space
here
is
where
the
apartment
building
is,
and
these
are
rental
townhouses.
J
J
So
it's
got
very,
very
close
identity
and
and
because
you
could
easily
see
the
three,
the
three
neighborhoods
the
school
here,
the
school
here,
the
school
school
is
here,
so
the
walkways
being
the
homes
I've
mentioned,
go
to
that
they
also
went
to
the
central
hub
and
they
also
to
be
used
to
get
to
the
high
school
at
the
periphery.
It's
multi-generationally
and
socially,
economically
diverse,
because
from
the
very
beginning,
their
owner
homes,
condominiums
rental,
townhouses,
rental,
apartment
buildings,
all
the
different
income
and
groups
could
use.
J
J
So
this
is
a
rental
housing
complex
and
look
at
how
it
was
developed.
These
are
townhouses
on
a
creek
with
trees.
So
through
there,
but
quite
high
density,
you
can
do
high
density.
That
is
still
it
looks
like
nature.
That's
people
reclaim,
okay,
so
the
three
neighborhoods
connected
within
you
had
at
the
central
core
all
of
the
things
that
you'd
want
to
have.
So
there
was
a
shopping
center
rate
from
day
one
built
and
it
had
a
grocery
store.
J
It
had
had
various
other
services
in
there
and
at
the
end
of
it,
was
a
community
center
that
was
built
and
given
to
the
community
to
run,
and
there
was
an
outdoor
pool
and
a
tennis
court.
So
the
concept
was
that
you
had
to
have
all
these
facilities
from
day
one
and
that
the
community
should
be
involved
with
them
are
there's
a
daycare
center
went
in
that
area.
J
Church
has
gone
in
that
area,
the
fire
hall
originally
originally
was
there,
and
we've
had
to
enlarge
it
in
into
an
in
it,
but
it's
still
in
the
net
in
the
general
area.
So
this
is
the
early
advertising.
Just
let
you
get
an
idea
all
the
different
things
that
bill
Terence
said
was
going
to
be
there
or
in
this
pathway
there
and
the
next
page
is
there
and
you
can
see
all
those
things
are
there
cross-country
skiing
do
on
the
golf
course
to
this
day
the
Golf
Course
is
still
there.
J
The
writing-table,
unfortunately,
eventually
was
just
taken
away
and
there's
been
some
other
housing
there,
but
for
years
we
had
the
writing-table
and
where
the
trail
was
for.
The
writing
is
still
a
trail
today,
along
the
edge
of
the
beaver
pond,
the
bigger
brook
and
had
the
white
in
the
natural,
the
wiring
underground
they
also
as
a
homeowner.
J
When
you
bought
a
house,
you
had
to
sign
an
agreement,
a
legal
agreement
to
join
the
beaver
community
association,
because
the
dividend
associate
ran
the
community
center
that
built
Erin
had
built
for
them,
land,
the
pool
and
all
the
recreation
programs.
And
so,
if
you
didn't
have
your
membership,
you
couldn't
go
swimming
and
the
day
the
pool
opened
everybody
renewed
their
memberships
and
got
it
what
it.
What
did?
J
It
was
one
of
the
things
about
the
heritage
here
has
involved
the
community
in
the
operation
of
the
community
right
from
day
one
and
they
had
the
the
the
building
the
the
community
had
cluster
directors
of
for
the
vicinity.
Those
are
was
20
or
30
people
at
that
time
that
they
would
contact
that
cluster
make
sure
the
memberships
were
paid
up.
So
every
part
of
the
community
had
a
representation
and
the
feeling
of
opportunity
were
attached
to.
There
are
covenants
that
people
have
talked
about
sometimes
to
give
the
natural
feeling
of
the
community.
J
You
had
to
sign
this
again.
It's
a
legal
document
was
that
registered
are
entitled.
A
covenant
only
lasts
for
40
years,
so
they're
now
not
there,
but
they
people
are
still
following
them
because
they're
they
fit
the
community.
It's
what
people
want
to
have
with
it
and
they
were
to.
They
were
actually
a
covenant
between
the
developer
and
each
householder
and
each
householder
to
each
other
householder.
So
it
could
be.
The
community
is
the
one
that
tend
to
maintain
that.
So
this
is
another
view
of
one
of
the
other
residential
streets.
J
Again,
you
can
see
how
the
nature
was
was
incorporated
into
there
like
the
single-family
homes,
then
the
the
covenants
I've
maintained,
the
use
of
natural
colors
and
materials
as
cedar
shakes,
were
largely
used
in
ich.
Initially
to
do
that,
people
say
the
city,
the
towns,
that
the
city
had
a
bye-bye
about
colors
the
city
never
had
a
buyout
about
colors.
It
was
in
the
covenants
and
we
very
rarely
do
people
try
to
go
away
from
it
because
that
actually
deterred
from
their
value
of
their
properties.
J
They
did,
and
I've
mentioned
in
here
about
clotheslines
I
had
a
clothesline
from
the
day,
I
moved
in
I
had
little
kids,
they
just
didn't
want
people
putting
up
poles
when
you
had
underground
wiring
to
put
up
the
other
types
exists,
the
other
type
you
had
to
have
one
that's
an
umbrella
type,
and
actually
mines
lasted
a
lot
of
had
to
restring
it
a
few
times.
I
still
have
it
right.
J
Next
year,
the
50th
anniversary
and
I
find
it
really
quite
interesting
that
some
of
the
original
people
who
moved
in
50
years
ago
are
still
there
in
those
houses
any
little
older.
Now,
John
Locke
is
still
there
that
it
did,
and
dot's
mail
are
still
there,
there's
a
number
of
them
and
others
that
have
sold
their
houses
to
their
children,
who
have
come
back
to
stay
in
the
community.
So
this
is
one
of
the
pathways
that
goes
to
school.
J
You
can
see
how
the
pathway
goes
through
the
park
areas
and
then
there's
open
space
there
as
well
for
the
children
to
play
now.
One
of
the
things
that
it's
important
was
important
to
community
when
Bill
Tarin
left
in
1970
Capital
Corporation
took
over
the
community
was
adamant
about
keeping
the
concept
going
because
better
Buick
wasn't
completed
at
that
time.
I
was
given
the
gen
the
role
of
being
chair
of
the
Planning
Committee,
because
I
was
supposed
to
be
an
expert.
I
had
taught
everyone.
J
Studies
at
high
school
so
back
ended
the
excerpt
but
the
regard
of
group
of
residents.
Together
we
had
a
lot
of
people
with
professional
backgrounds.
We
held
what
we
called
the
camp
plan
workshops.
We
had
over
200
residents
to
spend
a
full
year
meeting
after
meeting
after
meeting,
and
they
came
up
with
12
different
reports
on
different
aspects
of
how
the
community
should
go.
Those
were
used
to
complete
Beaverbrook
we're
still
using
them
today
and
I
did
send
you
the
1972
guiding
principles.
J
That
was
what
came
out
of
that
workshop
and
the
one
that
I
used
the
other
day
was
for
having
an
expansion
lands.
The
north
in
Canada
that
I
addict
the
city
and
the
people
who
back
onto
the
field
there
had
a
meeting
with
them.
The
early
this
week,
I
said
under
the
car.
We
have
to
have
a
buffer
there
and
we're
talking
about
trying
to
get
the
developer
to
put
a
buffer.
J
We
may
or
may
not
need
to
have
a
consultant
to
work
with
the
community
and
students
we
have
some
University
students
have
been
looking
at
it,
but,
as
bill
Tarun
told
me
the
other
day
the
students,
our
students,
say
it.
If
they're
going
to
talk
to
him
and
say
what
he's
going
to
say
it,
he
might
as
well
talk
directly
himself
and
interesting
enough.
Three,
like
three
people
have
been
really
involved
in
this
from
day.
One
bill
tear
on
John
Malak
was
the
read
before
me
and
it's
still
actively
involved
in
the
community.
B
H
H
J
H
In
any
event,
I
guess
when
it
gets
the
point
of
where
it
fits
in
the
lineup
of
people
for
heritage
conservation
districts.
We
might
get
into
some
basic
debate
in
terms
of
who
who's
already
in
the
queue
and
where
it
stands,
and
when
this
can
be
done,
I
guess
the
best
way
to
describe
it.
I
totally
agree
with
the
concept.
I
think
it
merits
heritage
consideration
without
a
doubt.
H
It's
just
a
question
of
if,
in
the
priorities
of
the
city,
we
need
to
look
at
the
ones
that
are
already
there
and
whether
there's
going
to
be
room
for
another
one
next
year
or
not,
and
that's
that's
a
different
debate.
It's
not
not
not
on
the
merits
of
what
you're
presented,
because
on
the
merits
of
what
you
presented,
it's
quite
clear
that
that
this
is
a
an
excellent
proposal.
D
You
very
much
I
just
a
suggestion,
for
there
was
a
very
interesting
presentation
and
it
took
me
back
to
when
I
was
involved,
with
creating
a
Conservation
District
for
walk-off,
because
we
had
the
same
types
of
issues.
We
were
looking
at
the
importance
of
the
hoses
in
a
landscape
setting
natural
materials
and
no
sidewalks,
and
that
sort
of
things.
J
B
J
Reason
the
four
hundred
people
signed
the
petition
is
because
we
are
getting
infill,
just
as
you
are
in
your
community,
we've
dealt
with
to
the
Parkway
and
we
were
able
to
actually
in
the
end,
get
it
to
a
point
where
we
could
actually
maintain
a
lot
of
these
characteristics
and
it's
not
perfect,
but
they're
setting
it
back
they're
putting
in
more
trees
there
and
it's
next
to
a
tree
daily
that
that
that's
going
to
be
maintained.
It
won't
buy
another
property,
but
it's
staying
there.
J
We
have
another
one
that
came
in
at
fifteen
stories
that
were
be
coming
to
the
planning
committee
next
month.
Probably
that
is
causing
us
some
concern
right
now
and
we
have
a
third
one,
which
is
an
additional
and
the
existing
apartment
for
seniors
residents.
But
in
this
case
the
developers
are
working
very
carefully
with
the
community
is
met
with
Bill
Tehran
is
met
with
that
and
they're
trying
to
come
up
with
something
that
will
actually
fit
in
with
infill.
Do
infill
without
changing
the
character
and
in
vote
old
us
on
that
date.
J
He
could
tell
you
themself
that
fifty
years
old,
it's
time
for
us
to
look
at
Beaverbrook
again
and
say:
how
is
it
going
to
be
redeveloped?
We
have
some
of
the
rented
townhouses
we're
a
rental
and
taken
over
by
kind
of
slumlords
deteriorating
very
quickly
and
rather
than
having
somebody
come
in
and
redevelop
that
in
a
way
that
doesn't
fit
the
community,
can
we
do
something
that
may
end
up
getting
higher
density
or
changing
to
meet
the
president
needs,
but
still
keep
the
character
of
the
community.
J
C
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
was
very
interesting
and
I
support.
What
what
councillor
Clark
had
to
say
I
would
also
building
on
Sandy's
suggestion
about
contacting
people
involved
in
the
creation
of
the
Rockland
Park
Heritage,
Conservation,
District
I.
Think
also
talking
to
people
at
Heritage.
Ottawa
I
do
know
that
they
have
been
involved
as
well.
C
E
Presentation
and
thanks
to
my
former
neighbor
today,
I
just
like
to
kind
of
have
this
case
study
of
the
Mosby's
Conservation
District,
set
in
a
larger
context,
that
is
of
interest
to
the
Heritage
Program
and
policy
of
the
city,
and
that
is
that
the
whole
question
of
what
is
heritage
and
at
what
point
to
contemporary
neighbourhoods
and
contemporary
buildings
age
to
a
point
and
age
to
undeveloped.
Some
significance
that
they
are
really
of
heritage.
E
Consideration
and
I
think
that
the
the
broad
cliff
produce
conservation
district
that
the
city
has
approved,
and
others
like
this
one
that
our
candidates
and
then
the
buildings
that
have
been
built
in
the
1960s
and
70s.
What
we're
calling
mid-century,
modern
or
on
our
agenda,
to
study
to
really
be
able
to
understand
which
of
them
are
significant
and
with
your
designation
and
which
of
them,
aren't
so
there's
an
ambitious
program
that
we
have
and
not
enough
staff
and
time
to
do
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
D
Do
you
remember
at
the
end
of
little
bull
Ottawa
the
consultations
that
you
led?
Madam
chair,
the
community
consultations?
We
were
looking
for
the
basic
principles
that
set
off
excellence
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
We
just
had
a
short
summer
and
half
a
dozen
or
ten
of
these,
and
there
was
we
gobbled
within
beauty,
accessibility,
affordability,
nature
and
we
used
them
again
and
again
in
consultation
with
the
community,
and
then
we
said
well.
D
The
board
reaffirmed
unanimously
his
commitment
to
assisting
in
study
to
be
involved
in
it
to
be
engaged
in
it
to
support
it.
We
want
to
be
a
partner
with
the
study
and
resulting
in
designation
so,
and
there
are
two
two
studies
going
on
right
now
from
Carleton
University,
the
community
and
there's
an
enthusiastic
subscription
from
the
people.
D
So
one
is
by
Professor
John
Walsh
and
he's
doing
oral
histories
with
the
local
people
on
how
the
their
experience
in
beaver
books
shaped
their
lives
and
how
they
too
shaped
the
legacy
of
Beaverbrook
and
the
other
is
with
Professor
Bruce
Elliot.
He's
known
for
his
city
beyond
the
history
of
Nepean
and
he's
directing
his
rats
grad
students
to
to
work
on
Beaverbrook,
just
this
fall
and
for
did
I
mention.
400
people
signed
a
heritage
petition
calling
for
the
designation
of
of
Beaverbrook.
D
It
is
a
PV
brief
petition
to
the
Council
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
Beaverbrook
Heritage
Area
designation,
whereas
the
subdivision
of
beaver
work
in
Kannada
is
an
exceptional
rare
example
of
mid-century
town
planning
and
architecture.
We
humbly
request
the
mayor
and
City
of
Ottawa
to
arrange
for
special
status
for
Beaverbrook
appropriate
to
ensuring
the
continuing
vision
of
the
planned
model
community
of
diva
Brook
consistent
with
its
heritage
character.
The
first
signatories
on
that
on
that
petition,
word,
John,
Moloch
who's
already
been
mentioned
and
built
in.
D
So
we're
really
grateful
for
the
attention
we
we
want
to
be
a
partner.
We
want
to
help
save
resources
or
stretch
them.
As
far
as
you
can
and
in
carrying
forward
this
work,
we
want
to
find
ways
to
our
cooperation
in
unwrapping,
interpreting
and
conserving
Beaverbrook
as
an
important
asset
of
Ottawa
of
Canada
and
beyond,
and
our
petition
was
signed
by
people
from
all
walks
of
life
occupations.
D
B
You
very
much
and
when
you
were
talking
about
the
work
we
do
in
building
a
livable
Ottawa,
certainly
and
extending
that
into
the
work
that
I'm
now
leading
on
building
better
smarter
suburbs.
Many
of
those
principles
that
we
worked
on
for
a
year
and
that
that
you
have
in
Beaverbrook
are
ones
that
are
that
the
new
quest
for
density
has
been
overshadowing
the
liveable
space
so
incorporating
some
of
the
things
like
the
pathways.
B
That's
what
we're
hearing
from
people
who
live
in
the
suburbs
we're
hearing
for,
and
suburban
councillors,
we're
hearing
that
those
paths
the
connect
are
important,
and
maybe,
when
you
build
a
new
subdivision,
it
doesn't
have
just
one
massive
Park
just
because
you
need
to
have
a
soccer
field.
Maybe
you
get
the
developers
together
and
build
those
sports
areas
on
the
outside,
maybe
even
on
agricultural
land
that
isn't
being
used
so
that
it's
not
it's
allows
for
some
pocket
parks
and
some
moments.
J
B
And
with
the
Taylor
mall
in
there
and
there
on
the
schools
and
there
on
the
mix
etc,
it
might
be
something
that
someone
in
the
East
End
might
be
interested
in,
seeing
whether
there's
a
case
for
that
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
as
good
a
case
as
Beaverbrook,
because
I
think
that
what
we
saw
and
achieve
with
bridle
would
not
bridle
with
fire.
Cliff
yes
and
we're.
Leaders
in
Canada
is
I
think
what
we're
going
to
see
the
support
for
Beaverbrook.
So
thank
you
for
coming
out
today.
Just.
D
One
last
remark:
you
know
mr.
chair
and
Chris
Terenure
and
do
you
know
that
we
had
a
meeting
so
consultative
meeting
before
the
meeting
began?
Mr.
Kalin
walked
and
there
were
300
people
in
the
room.
Would
you
believe
that
for
a
billionaire
developer,
300
people
stood
up
before
you
began
to
speak
and
without
any
introduction,
because
they
appreciated
the
spirit
of
the
place
all
of
Ottawa's
different
community
community?
And
that's
why
we're
here
and.
B
I'm
glad
you
came
and
thank
you
very
much
councillor
Wilkinson,
so
we
look
forward
to
that.
I
think
that
we're
through
the
agenda,
it's
like
the
little
committee
that
keeps
on
giving
meets
more
often
than
anything,
but
planning
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
interest.
So
what
do
I
have
left
Oh
any
notices
of
motion,
just
emotion:
how
about
inquiries?
No,
no
other
business
so
we'll
be
adjourned.
Thank
you
thanks.
Everyone.
Thank
you.
Staff.