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Built Heritage Sub-committee – September 8, 2020 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
So
good
morning,
everybody
and
welcome
back
after
a
wonderful,
hopefully
a
wonderful
labor
day
weekend,
it's
great
to
see
everybody
again
via
zoom,
seeing
that
detecting
that
we
have
quorum
here
on
our
channel,
we
are
going
to
start
our
proceedings
so
good
morning.
Everybody
and
welcome
to
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
meeting
of
september,
8th
2020.
I'd
like
to
call
the
members
to
order.
A
A
C
E
F
B
G
A
A
Confirmed
confirmed,
thank
you
so
now,
moving
on
to
our
first
item
for
planning,
infrastructure
and
economic
development
right
away,
heritage
and
urban
design
services
number
one:
an
application
to
alter
175
main
street,
the
chatelet
building
a
property
designated
under
part
four
of
the
ontario
heritage
act
so
can
staff.
Please
provide
an
overview
of
this
report.
F
F
F
Okay,
I
think
you
can
see
it
on
the
screen
there
so
good
morning,
members
of
the
committee,
the
application,
is
to
alter
175
main
street,
the
the
chatelet
building,
a
property
designated
under
part
4
of
the
ontario
heritage
act
next
slide,
the
property
is
located
between
main
street
and
the
ottawa
river
in
the
community
of
old
onwa
east
next,
some
photos
of
the
building.
Here
it
is
a
classically
inspired,
five-story
stone
structure.
It
was
constructed
in
1885
as
a
scholasticate
for
the
old
way
to
marry
immaculate
a
missionary
order.
F
Next
slide,
the
building
is
set
back
from
main
street
and
features
a
wide
tree-lined
la
that
leads
to
a
forecourt.
Next.
This
is
a
site
plan
showing
the
application
in
front
of
you
today.
It
is
for
removal
of
the
chapel
wing
which
I
have
you
can
see
there
in
red
and
then
the
creation
of
a
temporary
infill
wall.
It
also
includes
the
demolition
of
the
porch
at
the
rear
of
the
building.
F
F
These
are
some
elevations
of
the
proposal.
As
you
can
see,
there's
no
changes
proposed
to
the
front
facade
next.
These
are
the
two
side
side
views.
The
gray
area
shows
the
chapel
wing
which
is
proposed
to
be
demolished.
Next.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
building.
It's
the
east
facade.
It
shows
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing
and
the
porches
which
are
proposed
to
be
removed
as
well
in
grey
next
slide.
F
F
So
the
the
chapel
wing
contains
the
chapel
itself,
which
is
a
heritage
attribute
of
the
building.
These
are
some
photos
of
the
chapel
before
and
after
it
was
deconsecrated.
It
was
designed
by
montreal
architect,
luigi
lapierre,
it's
a
narrow,
rectangular
room
with
regularly
spaced
windows,
concrete
construction
and
buttress-like
columns
and
the
vaulted
ceiling
next
slide.
F
So
the
alterations
in
front
of
you
today
are
to
accommodate
the
adaptive
reuse
of
the
primary
portion
of
the
building
into
a
mixed-use
facility,
which
would
include
an
elementary
school
from
the
kansai
desert
catholic
de
santre
s
to
the
french
catholic
school
board,
a
community
center
with
the
city
of
ottawa
and
potential
future
residential
uses
next
slide
in
2019,
the
building
was
conditionally
sold
to
the
school
board.
The
school
board
does
not
require
the
traveling
for
programming,
nor
can
they
find
another
suitable
use.
F
Similarly,
recreation
services
determined
that
the
chapel
wing
and
the
chapel
itself
is
not
adequate
for
a
community
center
with
a
gymnasium
for
several
reasons,
notably
size
safety
and
accessibility
next
slide
to
go
through
the
processes,
because
there's
a
few
of
them
in
front
of
you
today
is
the
heritage.
Permit
application
there's
also
a
concurrent
zoning
bylaw
amendment
to
permit
the
use
of
a
school
which
we'll
be
going
to
planning
committee
concurrently
on
thursday
and
then
finally,
a
letter
of
understanding
between
recreation
services
and
the
school
board,
which
will
be
brought
forward
in
october
to
council.
F
So
heritage
staff
are
recommending
approval
of
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing
for
a
combination
of
the
following
reasons,
and
all
of
these
reasons
are
detailed
further
in
the
staff
report.
The
first
is
that
the
proposal
will
establish
a
continued
use
for
a
significant
historic
place.
The
building
has
been
vacant
since
2016
and
various
opportunities
for
potential
adaptive
reuse
have
been
explored,
including
retirement
residents,
a
community
hub
and
residential
commercial
and
live
work
concepts.
F
The
value
of
the
building
was
defined
as
its
historical
associations,
with
the
oblates,
its
architectural
value,
as
an
excellent
example
of
roman
catholic
institutional
building
and
its
contextual
value
for
its
sending
the
proposed
adaptive
use
retains
these
overall
values
and
rehabilitates.
The
significant
portion
of
the
designated
building
the
chapel
edition
is
a
later
edition
for
the
travel
wing
rather
is
a
later
edition,
located
at
the
rear
of
the
building,
with
limited
visibility
from
the
public
mail
and
the
chapel
itself.
That
is
an
interior
attribute
with
no
public
access
next
slide.
F
The
chapel
wing
will
be
documented
through
photographs,
and
the
chapel
will
be
laser
scanned
in
advance
of
this
application.
Regional
group
has
contacted
the
oblates
archives
to
advise
them
on
the
demolition
and
confirm
that
there
were
no
remaining
elements
or
artifacts
that
they
would
like
to
be
conserved.
F
The
de-satellite
building
is
an
evolving
cultural
landscape.
This
has
been
modified
significantly
since
its
construction
and
that
staff
belief
can
continue
to
evolve
in
a
manner
that
maintains
its
cultural
heritage
value.
So
you
can
see
on
screen.
There
are
photos
from
1885
its
original
construction
in
1925,
the
addition
of
two
wings
to
the
north
and
south,
and
then
another
edition
in
1950,
showing
the
the
addition
of
the
fifth
floor
and
classically
inspired
elements.
F
In
addition,
the
chapel
that
we
are
discussing
today
was
constructed
65
years
after
the
original
building
and
replaced
the
original
chapel.
So
even
in
the
state
of
significance,
it
notes
that
the
building
has
evolved
drastically
since
its
construction.
Next
slide
staff
review
the
proposal
to
determine
and
determine
that
it
meets
the
parks,
canada
standards
and
guidelines.
As
outlined
in
more
detail
in
the
staff
report,
the
applicable
guidelines
are
up
on
the
screen.
F
F
A
I
I
So
I
it's
very
important
that,
in
order
to
to
understand
what
I'm
saying
that
you
have
that
report,
I
don't
know
why
it
wasn't
on
the
website.
It
was
provided
to
the
association
and
members
of
our
planning
committee
by
sally
back
in
april.
Perhaps
may
I
just
want
you
know,
there's
not
much
more.
I
can
say
I'm
so
disappointed.
I
I
I
I
I
I
Have
the
school
board
get
on
with
the
work
that
they
want
to
do
in
the
in
the
main,
building
and
and
get
on
with
removing
the
designated
substances
within
the
chapel
wing,
because
that
has
to
be
done
anyway,
prior
to
any
demolition
or
refurbishing,
then
you'll
get
a
really
good
idea
of
what
a
fabulous
space.
This
is
I
you
know
when
I
first
heard
of
this,
I
thought
oh
geez.
I
guess
you
could
just
come
along
and
say:
well,
let's
take
the
library
off.
I
It's
part
of
the
it's
part
of
the
structure,
as
is
the
chapel
the
other
day
I
wrote
by
the
governor
general's
residence,
and
I
I
said
I
wrote
on
my
bike
and
I
said
what
the
heck.
This
is
very
noticeable
that
these
wings
are
different
wow.
I
guess
it
would
be
okay
to
demolish
those
two
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
I
hope
that
there's
some
reasoning
here
and
that
the
chapel
wing
is
saved
thanks
very
much.
A
B
J
All
right,
I
can
go
first
thanks
very
much
chair
king
and
mr
goodheat
for
your
presentation
and
your
in-depth
engagement
on
this.
I
know
your
questions
have
made
the
potential
result
of
this
of
this
better,
regardless
of
the
way
that
it
goes,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you.
You
mentioned
the
structural
elements
of
the
the
the
chapel
wing
and
I've
also
reviewed
those
reports.
J
But
in
the
report,
though,
it's
in
front
of
us
today,
the
the
main
reason
cited
for
the
proposed
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing
is
part
of
an
adaptive
reuse
of
the
building
and
balanced
by
the
repurposing
of
the
main
building
as
a
school
and
community
center
for
for
reuse.
And
so
I
understanding
the
the
structural
comments
that
you're
making,
and
I
think
many
would
agree
what
about
the
piece
in
the
report
that
does
speak
to
that
adaptive.
I
I
I
don't
think
there's
enough
room
for
a
full-size
gym
in
that
location.
I
don't
think
you
should
be
building
anywhere
near
the
north
end
of
the
chatelaine
building.
There
should
be
huge
setbacks.
You
don't
just
put
another
building
three
meters
away
those
side
entrances
to
the
to
the
north
and
south
ground
floor
entrances
to
the
building.
It
looks
like
they're
going
to
be
chopped
off.
I
mean
they're,
a
important
part
of
the
building.
I
You
know
give
the
chatelaine
building
a
little
bit
of
not
a
little
bit.
Give
it
a
lot
of
prominence,
don't
build
right
up
next
to
it,
with
a
with
a
gymnasium
and
or
community
center.
Whatever
that
is,
I
haven't
seen
any
drawings
that
show
where
the
community
center
would
go.
How
big
the
community
center
would
be
the
gym
that
I
see
on
that
site.
I
I
mean
it's
only
30
meters
property
line
to
property
line.
You
can't
put
a
full-size
gym
in
there
anyway
and
the
chapel.
I
mean
it's
perfect.
If
you
looked
at
the
drawings,
if
you
look
at
the
you
get
all
kinds
of
dimensions
on
the
on
the
report
november
30th
2016
report
that
conlifted
you've
got
all
kinds
of
dimensions
on
that
in
that
report
that
show
you.
You
know,
oh
boy,
you
could
use
that
chapel
for
volleyball
pickleball,
cross
court,
basketball.
It's
a
perfect
recreational
space.
I
The
lo
the
occupancy
is
perfect.
I
mean
it
was
designed
to
be
a
chapel.
So
the
the
look
to
me
it's
a
no-brainer,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
have
all
of
the
information
so
and
you
guys
don't
have
all
of
the
information.
This
thing
shouldn't
just
be
going
ahead
like
this
tear
off
the
chapel
put
up
a
temporary
wall.
What
are
you
going
to
fix
that
temporary
wall
with?
What
are
you
going
to?
I
mean
way
too
soon,
not
enough
information
given
to
the
community,
not
enough
information
given
to
decision
makers.
I
It's
like
you
have
this
chis
the
first
one
said
we
were
going
to
de-designate
that
didn't
get
on
the
website,
but
the
next
one
did
with
a
little.
You
know
just
change
that
wording,
and
then,
lo
and
behold
in
late
august,
we
get
a
revised
chis
that
if
you,
if
you
look
at
what
I
sent
you,
I
sent
you
my
notes
to
self
and
you
look
at
the
differences.
I
mean
it's.
I
The
one
thing
that
really
bugs
me
about
that
chis
is.
It
says
that
the
chatelaine
building
is
in
the
residential
mix,
use
designation
as
soon
as
I
see
that
and
I've
seen
that
in
lots
of
reports.
I
say
what
these
guys
don't
know.
What
they're
talking
about
this
building
is
in
the
mixed
use,
designation.
J
B
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
goodkey.
I
don't
have
your
memo
in
front
of
me.
We
did
get
a
number
of
submissions
before
the
weekend.
Can
you
just
remind
the
committee
who
you
are
in
the
context
of
this
file?
Are
you
a
neighbor?
Are
you
on
the
community
association?
What
which
hat
are
you
wearing.
I
I
B
That's
me
excellent.
Thank
you.
How
has
the
city
reached
out
to
the
community?
How
have
you
been
involved?
The
staff
report
today
said
the
local
counselor
and
people
30
meters
from
the
site
were
engaged.
They
were
silent
on
any
opposition,
and
here
we
are
now
receiving
delegations
this
morning,
a
little
bit
of
a
surprise.
So
how
have
members
of
the
community
been.
I
Engaged
I've
tried,
I've
tried
to
engage
them.
I
think
this
pandemic
has
caused.
You
know
people
can't
get
together
and
and
talk
about
things,
but
I
don't
think
the
community
has
been
engaged.
I
I
mean
I've
tried
to
I've,
had
lots
of
dialogue
with
the
community
association
and
some
other
people,
like
I
don't
know
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
people.
It's
not
me
to
go
out
and
schmooze
with
people.
I
I
don't
like
having
my
name
in
the
paper.
I
don't
like.
I
don't
like
that.
So
I
don't
like
doing
this.
I
I'm
not
very
good
at
it
either,
but
I'd
say
that
no
there
it
there
hasn't
been
good
engagement.
The
community
association
and
kag
have
been
involved
for
years,
but
it's
it's
all
been
wishy-washy.
You
know
it's
like
you
know
we're
trying
to
do
this
and
we've
got
these
partners
and
now
we've
got
these
then.
Finally
whoa
this
became
serious
when
the
school
board
said
you
know,
we
want
this
school
and
we
want
it.
We
want
to
be
building,
we
want
to
be
in
it
next
year,
whoa,
okay!
I
I
I
know
all
this
stuff,
but
I
tell
you
the
community
has
really
been
out
in
the
left
field.
I
I
I
appreciate
the
feel
for
the
overall
community.
I
do
have
a
feel
for
the
community
association
board
and
the
majority
of
them
think
as
long
as
we
can
get
a
community
center
and
and
a
full-size
gymnasium-
and
you
know
this
is
a
good
compromise
and
I
I
have
to
scratch
my
head
because
it
I've
been
involved
since.
I
B
E
D
C
Great,
my
name
is
kelly
rhodenizer,
I'm
with
the
regional
group,
and
we
are
the
applicant
of
the
demolition
of
the
chatelaine
chapel
wing.
I
brought
my
team
with
me
to
provide
you
some
details
and
address
any
technical
questions
that
you
might
have
on
our
application.
I
have
gord
loymer
and
doug
from
hoban
architecture.
They've
been
working
with
us
on
this
file
since
2014.
C
C
As
most
of
you
probably
are
aware,
we
purchased
greystone
village,
as
it
is
known
now
from
the
abats
fathers
in
2015..
Our
team
has
been
working
to
repurpose
the
de
chatelet
buildings.
Since
that
time,
we
looked
at
converting
the
de
chatelet
into
a
retirement
residence
and
had
several
retirement
operators
tour
the
building.
They
also
determined
that
the
chapel
wing
of
the
building
was
not
suitable
for
their
uses.
C
The
chapel
wing
repurpose
had
several
issues
for
cadco,
one
of
which
being
the
wing
was
too
narrow
for
conversion
to
residential
uses.
The
parks
and
rec
department
confirmed
they
could
not
convert
the
chapel
into
a
full
regulation,
size
gym
for
the
city.
They
also
expressed
concerns
with
other
potential
uses
above
the
gymnasium.
C
Both
groups
had
additional
concerns
of
the
wings
1950s
construction
specifically
to
the
structural
integrity
and
to
bring
the
building
up
to
current
building
code
standards,
parks
and
rec
and
regional
had
an
agreement
in
principle
that
there
was
merit
to
dump
to
complete
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing
and
complete
a
land
swap
to
the
north
of
the
de
chatelet
for
a
stand-alone
gymnasium,
which
would
link
to
the
existing
shadow
light.
Building.
C
This
entire
project
fell
through
as
cadco
could
not
secure
the
necessary
funding
to
move
forward.
Therefore,
regional
continued
to
explore
other
uses.
Could
the
building
be
residential
commercial
live
work
concepts?
We
continue
to
have
the
same
issues:
the
chapel
weighing
experience
by
previous
potential
purchasers.
C
The
proposed
plan
for
the
chatelaine
is
that
the
ground
floor
would
be
split:
half
for
the
community
center
and
the
other
half
for
a
school
about
just
shy
of
four
thousand
square
feet
for
each.
The
second
and
third
floor
would
be
the
exclusive
use
of
the
school
and
the
fourth
and
fifth
floor
would
be
potential,
affordable,
housing.
C
The
demolition
application
before
you
today,
if
approved,
will
allow
a
regional
to
finalize
our
conditional
purchase
sales
agreement
with
the
cece
and
negotiate
and
finalize
negotiations
with
the
city
for
the
community
center
and
full-size
gym.
We
agree
with
the
staff
report
and
ask
you
to
approve
our
application.
Thank
you.
J
J
C
Well,
we
actually
have
luke
pillai
here
from
the
cece
who
could
speak
specifically,
but
we
have
been
working
for
the
last
five
years
trying
to
find
an
appropriate
use
that
that
works
within
the
community.
We
are
very
hopeful
that
this
deal
will
will
close,
and
we
won't
have
to
be
in
that
in
that
position.
J
Okay
and
my
understanding
is
the
the
sale
agreement
is
still
conditional,
and
this
is
one
of
the
clauses
is,
that
is
that
correct
and
when
do
you
sorry,
that's
correct,
and
then,
when
do
you
foresee
the
if
this
moves
forward?
When
do
you
foresee
that
becoming
a
binding
agreement
in
terms
of
the
sale
to
to
the
school
board
and
the
community
adaptive
reuse
of
the
building.
C
Sure
so
this
is
the
problem
we've
always
had
with
this.
Application
is
because
there's
so
many
moving
pieces
and
we've
been
working,
we're
working
with
sally
coots
before
she
retired
and
now
with
ann
and
trying
to
understand-
and
it's
always
the
comment
comes
up-
is
the
chicken
and
the
egg
right,
so
we're
dealing
with
parks
and
rec
we're
dealing
with
planning
and
we're
also
dealing
with
heritage,
so
trying
to
manage
all
three
pieces
has
been
really
challenging
so
we're.
We
also
have
to
sever
the
property
as
well
too.
C
C
So,
as
most
of
you
must
know,
the
severance
application
takes
two
to
three
months:
we're
prepared
to
file
it
we're
hoping
to
file
it
next
week
and
so
that
application
has
to
go
through
and
be
completed
before
we
can
physically
sell
the
property
to
the
school
board.
We're
hopeful
they'll
be
able
to
close
before
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
but
it
will
all
depend
on
all
the
timing.
J
Okay,
that's
helpful
and
then
your
your
plans,
regionals
plans
for
behind
the
dc
delay
the
space
between
the
dacia,
la
building
and
the
river.
Is
it
to
develop
there?
What?
What
are
the
plans
for
that?
The
space
where
the
the
chapel
wing
occupies
some
of
it,
but
not
all
of
that
space?
What
are
the
plans
there.
J
C
J
C
So
that's
one
of
the
conditions
in
our
deal
with
the
cecce
is
that
they
were
between
the
three
of
us,
including
the
city,
continue
the
negotiations
on
the
lands
to
the
north.
It's
always
been
our
plan
to
to
complete
that
with
the
city.
I
believe
kevin
weary
is
on
on
the
line
today
and
he
has
been
working
with
us
as
well
as
the
cec
to
finalize
those
plans,
and
I
my
understanding
is
that
a
recommendation
is
going
to
fedco
in
october.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair,
thanks
kelly
for
the
presentation
and
for
the
additional
information.
I
wanted
to
ask
some
questions
around
the
affordable
housing.
This
is
part
of
the
entire
project
that
has
left
me.
You
know
questioning
once
again
just
how
serious
the
city,
our
partners,
stakeholders,
are
in
terms
of
providing
affordability.
I've
been
through
the
entire
project
and
I
have
to
say
it's
it's
impressive,
but
it's
not
mixed
income,
and
I
know
that
the
affordable
housing
portion
has
been.
You
know
it's
been
described
as
a
potential
use.
It's
been
deferred.
G
That
would
lead
me
to
believe
that
it
likely
won't
happen,
but
before
before
my
support
is
on
this
either
today
or
at
at
council.
I
want
to
know,
you
know,
does
the
does?
The
education
act
actually
allow
the
board
the
cecce
board
to
have
affordable
housing
as
as
a
permissible
use
like
what
is
that?
Are
they
allowed
to
go
through
an
rfp
process?
What
does
the
education
act?
Even?
G
What
does
it
allow
the
school
board
to
actually
do,
and
that
might
be
a
question
to
the
school
board,
but
between
now
and
planning
and
now
in
council.
I'd
really
like
to
see
this
in
writing
from
the
ministry
from
the
board,
so
that
I
have
an
understanding
of
what
actually
can
happen
because
I'm
just
not
I'm
just.
I
think
that
everybody
has
good
intentions,
but
if
it
can't
be
done,
I
want
that
put
up
front
if
it
can
be
done.
G
C
So
I
understand
your
question:
I
will
loop
up
with
the
cece
to
get
a
proper
response
for
you
counselor,
it's
my
understanding.
They
have
them,
so
the
idea
is
we'd,
sell
the
whole
building
to
the
school
board
and
that
they're,
the
ones
that
are
negotiating
with
they've,
been
working
with
och,
and
I
I
don't
know,
process
wise,
counselor
king,
how
this
works,
but
I
I
know
lou
can
answer
that
specifically
as
I
am
not
comfortable
answering
on
the
education
act,
but
my.
A
And
luke
is
available
for
questions,
but
what
I
think
I'll
do
is,
I
know
that
there
are
members
who
will
be
speaking
or
or
deputies
will
be
speaking
or
available
for
questions,
so
maybe
we'll
defer
that
for
just
a
little
bit
later
in
terms
of
process,
but
we
will
come
back
to
that
and
get
a
get
a
answer
from
from
the
school
board.
So
thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
No.
I
appreciate
that
and
and
like
I
said,
going
going
forward,
I
really
would
like
to
see
something
very
substantive
in
writing
so
that
I
understand,
as
we
move
forward
on
this
entire
project,
what
can
be
done,
what
can't
and
and
how
we
can
expect
it
to
to
unfold.
I
just
don't
want
any
surprises
in
six
months
or
a
year
or
several
years
from
now.
So
I
appreciate
that
again
right
now,.
C
E
I've
read
the
reports,
and
I've
heard
your
presentation
now
and
the
discussion
about
the
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
school
board
and
and
regional.
One
thing
which
is
unclear
to
me,
and
maybe
you
could
help
educate
me
on
this-
is
that
I
understand
that
the
school
board
and
did
not
want
to
acquire
the
chapel
wing,
and
I
can
understand
that
and
my
question
is:
was
it
a
condition
of
the
offer
to
purchase
that
the
chapel
wing
must
be
demolished?
E
C
E
C
So
it
was
one
of
their
conditions
to
closing.
I
can't
speak
to
their
intentions
of
why
I
do
know
that
we
spoke
about
it
in
length
because
we
wanted
to
see
it.
They
didn't
feel
they
could
repurpose
the
chapel
wing
for
their
uses
for
their
programming
and
they
had
significance
about
the
the
width
of
the
residential
units
above
as
well
too.
So
it
was
a
combined,
a
combined
issue.
E
It's
unclear
from
the
presentations
what
the
school
board's
position
of
it
is
because,
naturally,
one
might
even
ask:
will
they
be
requesting
regional
to
take
over
the
up
two
floors
or
to
demolish
the
upper
two
floors,
because
they
can't
use
that
space.
So
this
is
all
very
and
clear
to
me
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
we'd
be
able
to
cast
a
little
bit
of
light
on
that.
C
Okay,
so
I
think
I'm
maybe
we've
misunderstood
so
for
the
chapel
wing,
specifically,
the
school
board
advised
that
they
couldn't
reuse,
that
space
for
programming
purposes.
They
had
concerns
about
with
the
partners
that
they
were
speaking
with
about
the
size
of
the
two
floors
above
the
chapel
to
repurpose
into
residential
uses.
C
So
so
that's
separate
from
the
actual
de
chatelet
building
itself
and
they
are
in
negotiation
with
och
as
it
stands
right
now
for
the
top
two
floors
to
be
used
and
repurposed
as
residential,
affordable
housing.
And
my
understanding
is.
There
is
no
issue
or
concern
with
that,
but
I
will
have
to
defer
to
the
school
board
to
provide
you
clarity
on
that.
E
A
L
L
L
The
the
development
of
this
master
plan
was
a
very
collaborative
process
that
involve
not
only
regional
developments
and
the
architects
and
engineers,
but
also
the
community
and
the
the
city
itself,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
aspects
that
I
can't
go
into
here.
But
the
the
central
notion
was
the
retention
of
these.
L
So
this
is
the
current
master
plan,
which
shows
a
different
orientation.
That's
been
flipped
around
shows
the
de
chatelet
building
at
the
center.
The
four
court,
which
is
going
to
be
converted
to
a
city
park,
the
grand
alley,
which
is
the
access
that
goes
from
main
street
up
to
the
day.
Chatelet
building,
is
also
going
to
be
a
city
park.
Both
of
those
pieces
are
turning
over
to
the
city.
L
Kelly
has
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
of
the
adaptive
reuse
that
this
that
regional
has
tried
to
develop
along
the
way
she
talked
about
how
they
originally.
The
idea
on
the
original
first
master
plans
that
we
showed
of
converting
the
de
chatelet
building
into
a
retirement
home
that
that
was
unsuccessful.
L
Then
there
was
the
social
housing
concepts
with
ccoc,
which
were
ultimately
unsuccessful,
and
so
today,
since
2019,
we've
been
working
with
the
catholic
school
board
on
the
idea
of
this,
this
community
hub
the
combination
of
a
community
center
school
and
affordable
housing
in
all
of
these
instances
in
all
of
the
people
that
were
talked
to
in
the
along
the
way.
With
these
different
ideas,
the
risk
associated
with
converting
the
chapel
wing
was
a
major
issue,
and
maybe
what
we
should
do
now
is
flip
to
the
next
slide.
L
So
here
in
this
drawing,
we
see
three
sections.
The
section
at
the
bottom
is
a
longitudinal
section
running
north
south
through
the
main
body
of
the
building
of
the
the
part
to
be
retained,
and
this
larger
section
of
the
building
is
is
somewhat
like
a
stack
of
egg
crates.
It's
a
system
of
load-bearing
walls
of
a
corridor
that
runs
north-south
in
rooms
that
flank
on
either
side
like
an
egg
crate
stacked
on
top
of
each
other,
very
conventional
construction
and
and
easy
to
monitor,
modify
and
to
work
with
this.
L
The
section
in
the
upper
right
is
the
section
through
the
existing
chapel
wing,
the
red
air
circle
or
oval
covers
the
area
of
the
addition.
The
part
to
the
left
of
it
is
the
main
body
of
the
of
the
building,
and
you
can
see
that
there's
multiple
levels
that
the
levels
are
are
inconsistent
there's
been
some
confusion
as
to
how
many
levels
there
are
to
the
building
because
of
the
east
end
of
the
of
the
wing.
L
There
are
series
of
rooms
which
don't
align
with
other
floor
levels
that
are
stacked
on
top
of
each
other,
but
the
main
chapel
area
is
in
the
center.
It's
a
two
story:
volume
with
these
smaller
spaces,
the
residential
spaces
on
the
top
two
floors,
the
structural
issue-
that's
related
that
comes
about
with
this.
This
wing
is
not
the
the
building
is
capable
of
holding
itself
up
if
it's
continued
to
be
used
as
it
is
today.
As
for
the
purpose
that
it
is
today,
there
probably
is
no
significant
structural
issue.
L
What
where
the
issue
comes
into
play
is
the
change
of
use
by
the
building
code.
The
existing
building
is
a
residential
building.
It's
a
considered
residential
use
where
the
chapel
was
part
of
that
residential
use,
and
maybe
not
a
good
analogy,
but
the
chapel
is
like
an
oversized
living
room
in
this
large
communal
living
facility
and
when
we
look
at
converting
it
to
another
use,
we
we
go
from
a
residential
occupancy
into
a
an
assembly
occupancy.
L
But
what
do
you
use
at
that
residential
space
of
the
the
chapel
wing,
as
you
can
carve
it
up
into
smaller
rooms,
into
apartments
that
are
two-story
spaces
that
occupy
that
that
central
area
you
introduce
new
loads,
and
so
the
structural
issue
reoccurs
again
so
that
that
creates
the
all
these
issues?
There's
multiple
levels,
narrow
upper
two
floors
where
it's
essentially
bedrooms
on
either
side
of
a
corridor.
L
So
the
current
concept-
and
this
this
drawing
shows
the
the
concept
of
the
very
preliminary
of
the
conversion
of
the
de
chatelet
building.
It's
a
view
from
the
from
the
west,
the
northwest
to
the
right
to
the
left.
You
can
see
a
block,
moss
massing
of
the
proposed
gym
that
would
go
with
the
community
center
and
a
link
that
would
join
the
two
arms
the
new
and
the
old
together.
L
The
the
the
whole
strategy
is
built
on
a
sequence
of
events.
Approval
of
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing
gives
the
school
board
confidence
that
this
this
use
can
go
forward
and
then
we
can
develop
a
design
and
get
further
into
this
design
and
come
back
to
build
heritage,
to
get
approval
of
that
design
and
the
modifications
we
do
to
the
building
that
gives
them
confidence
to
move
forward.
That
gives
these
the
parks
and
recreation
confidence
that
there
is
a
partnership
with
the
school
board,
and
so
the
community
center
can
also
move
forward.
A
J
L
So
the
the
that
was
an
idea
that
was
developed
earlier
on
in
the
master
plan,
and
it
was,
it
would
be
as
a
public
path
that
would
go
on
through
the
school
board.
Is
a
bit
concerned
about
that
idea
from
a
liability
point
of
view
with
children.
That
would
also
become
the
main
entrance
to
the
to
the
building
for
school
children.
H
L
Actually
one
of
the
earlier
schemes
that
we
did
when
we
were
working
with
ccoc
in
the
previous
2016
version
of
this
idea.
That
was
actually
where
the
gym
was
going
to
go,
and
the
idea
was
that
the
gym
would
occupy
the
lower
two
levels,
much
as
the
where
the
the
cafeteria
and
the
chapel
are
now
and
then
there
would
be
housing
built
on
top
of
it.
L
The
other
aspect
was
the
right
from
the
very
beginning
scholastic,
which
is
the
new
street
that
runs
next
between
the
de
chatelet
and
the
river
was
seen
as
being
a
wernuff
with
very
little
traffic
on
it
to
be
oriented
to
being
both
for
cycling
and
pedestrians.
Minimize
car
traffic
on
that
street,
the
community
center,
the
parks
and
recreation
water
community
center
to
be
really
accessible
to
the
community
and
be
able
to
have
vehicle
access
to
it
and
so
give
putting
it
on.
H
L
L
The
height
restriction,
as
I
recall,
is
it
can't
be
higher
than
the
there
is
a
height
restriction
put
in
place
it
basically,
the
idea
is,
it
cannot
be
higher
than
the
day
chatulae
building
so
that
you
can't
see
you
what
the
one.
The
idea
was
to
give
the
dish
adelaide
building
primacy
in
the
view
from
main
street
looking
east,
so
there
wouldn't
be
towers,
sticking
up
behind
it.
M
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
one
of
the
concerns
that
had
been
flagged
by
heritage
ottawa
earlier
gord,
when
you
were
giving
your
rundown
of
the
various
architectural
nuances
and
quirks
of
the
building
you'd
identified
a
number
of
areas
that
would
make
adaptive
reuse
either
as
residential
or
as
some
other
institutional
or
commercial
use
difficult.
M
But
in
your
eyes,
are
these
challenges
with
the
the
different
floor
levels
and
the
awkward
subdivisions
of
the
interior
spaces?
Are
they
over
and
above
what
one
would
normally
expect
in
a
heritage
building
or
would
in
your
eyes
this
be
consistent
for
what
you
would
expect
to
see
when
doing
any
kind
of
adaptive
reuse
process
within
a
heritage?
Building
like
this.
L
It's
a
difficult
question
to
answer,
but
because
every
heritage
building
is
different,
but
let's
look
at
the
rest
of
the
building.
So
if
I
look
at
the
the
north
south
wing,
the
main
body
of
the
day
chatelet
building,
which
is
five
levels,
they
have
different
floor
heights,
but
they're
very
consistent,
there's
a
floor
and
there's
a
corridor
with
load
bearing
walls
on
either
side
of
this
wide
corridor.
L
The
the
spaces
on
either
side
are
generous
and
broken
into
rooms.
So
it's
a
system
of
columns
and
load-bearing
walls,
and
I
mean
rick
kenloff-
can
speak
to
the
structure
a
little
better
than
I
can,
but
it
is
relatively
easy
relatively
easy
to
adapt
that
because
it
are
that
system
to
a
new
use,
because
the
system
is
already
in
place
of
a
system
of
column
of
structural
system
is
already
in
place
that
it
anticipates
different
changes
that
the
problem
with
the
chapel
wing-
it
is
unusual,
you
know,
there's.
L
There
are
lots
of
examples
of
other
buildings
like
that
being
converted
to
different
uses,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
challenge,
and
there
it
is.
There
are
a
lot
of
risks
associated
with
it.
This
building
the
combination
of
the
soils
which
are
sensitive,
the
age
of
the
building,
the
structural
system,
which
is
unknown
and
the
seismic
issues
associated
with
ottawa,
could
make
that.
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say.
Is
it's
a
high
risk?
It's
there
are
so
many
unknowns.
L
M
M
L
They're
no
they're
not
really
good,
and
we
have
examples
in
our,
even
as
recently
as
last
year
of
heritage
buildings
when
they
become
difficult
or
challenging
to
adapt,
they
sit
and
become
idle
and
wait.
And
then
we
had
the
you
know.
We
had
the
example
of
the
collapse,
partial
collapse
of
a
building
on
in
the
in
the
hintonburg
area.
A
year
or
two
ago
we
have
the
daily
building
that
sat
around
waiting
for
decades.
A
K
K
The
day
chevrolet
building
is
comprised
of
four
amalgamated
structures.
The
purple
is
the
original
building.
That's
the
pink
on
either
end
are
the
north
and
south
wings
that
were
constructed
in
1925
and
then
the
chapel
wing
is
in
in
green.
Could
I
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please
the
figure
one.
It's
it
chronicles.
Some
of
the
major
changes.
The
original
main
building
was
a
four-story
structure
constructed
in
1885,
with
a
tower
added
in
187
1887..
K
K
K
K
There
is
an
agreement
to
purchase
the
chevrolet
building
with
the
objective
of
converting
it
it
to
an
elementary
school
in
tandem
with
the
potential,
the
city
of
ottawa's
parks
and
recreation
building
municipal
community
center.
These
uses,
along
with
the
introduction
of
residential
mixed
use
throughout
the
property,
are
very
fitting
that
will
round
out
the
sense
of
community
and
reinforce
greystone
village
as
an
evolving
cultural
heritage
landscape.
Thank
you.
E
N
So,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
If
I
may
present
myself,
I'm
looking
director
of
facilities
here
at
the
french
catholic
school
board
in
harwa,
so
just
I
won't
do
a
presentation,
but
just
voice
and
some
information
and
respond
to
two
at
least
two
questions
that
were
asked
just
prior
to
that,
though,
that
was
one
of
our
top
priority
projects
within
the
city
of
ottawa
and
as
it
has
been
for
the
past
two
years,
we
are
very
anxious
to
proceed.
N
So
the
one
of
the
response
or
the
question
asked
by
a
counselor
mckinney.
It
was
regarding
to
the
ministry
of
education
or
the
act,
there's
no
such
regulation
regarding
residential
use
or
other
use.
There
is,
although
guidelines
from
the
ministry
of
education
given
in
march
2015,
which
are
up
to
date,
and
we
can
provide
that
information
to
that
effect.
N
The
the
ministry
of
education
doesn't
regulate
or
does
not
dictate
or
approve
which
partnership
are
suitable
or
not.
It's
up
to
the
school
board
to
proceed
with
the
facility
partnership
and
act
and
actually
ministry
of
education.
It
does
encourage
school
board
to
when
they
have
excessive
capacity
or
space
to
rent
out
to
and
facilitate
partnerships
and
the
school
board.
N
N
A
E
E
I
just
wanted
to
follow
through
on
the
question
of
the
the
chapel
wing
itself
for
the
functioning
of
the
school.
If
it
is
not
usable-
and
I
can
understand
that
it
wouldn't
be
usable
by
the
school
board,
but
if
the
wing
was
completely
severed
that
is
not
demolished
but
severed
and
regional
put
some
other
use
to
it.
E
But
it
was
quite
complex
to
do
that
and
it
would
have
been
a
lot
easier
had
the
residential
use
there,
instead
of
being
on
top
of
the
community
center,
actually
been
a
separate
wing,
like
the
you
know,
like
the
chapel
wing
that
we
have
here.
So
my
question
to
you
is
that
if
the
chopper
wing
was
not
demolished,
but
it
was
repurposed
for
some
other
use
by
regional
or
another
partner,
would
that
really
prevent
the
introduction
of
a
well
welcomed
school
in
this
building?.
N
F
N
My
only
concern
as
an
engineer
myself
is
just
the
structural
aspect
and
when
you're
integrated
into
one
building,
our
insurance
provider,
which
is
osb,
which
is
a
ontario
scope
board
insurance,
would
probably
request
some
some
certainty
regarding
who
owns
that
part
in
whatever
is
going
to
be
made
within
that
that
portion
of
the
building
itself.
So
that
would
be
my
only
concern
regarding
that
chapel.
So
no,
we
haven't
taken
that
off
or
played
if
there
were
ever
a
severed
part
of
the
chapel
itself.
If
we
can
make
that
feasible.
E
H
J
N
J
J
Okay,
and
just
so
I'm
clear:
where
would
your
land
stop
behind
the
building?
Is
it
directly
abutting
the
day
shadow
lady
building,
or
is
there
further
room
there
for
play
of
of
students
outdoors,
because
I
know
there's
going
to
be
the
front
park,
but
students
need
to
go
outdoors
and
play
so
is
it
that
they
would
be
having
space
where
the
current
chapel
wing
is
some
space
there
or
is
there?
Is
that
not
yet
decided?
What
is
the
thinking
around
that.
N
As
for
the
other
play
area
where
the
the
intent
of
the
school
board
is
to
use
community
parks
around
within
that
vicinity
and
that
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
the
city
of
ottawa
regarding
a
four
court,
probably
or
but
not
have
it
deemed
exclusive
use,
but
use
many
of
their
parks
within
the
air.
So
there's
no
intent
to
purchase
any
parcel
of
land
in
excess
to
meet
the
child
play
area.
J
A
O
O
O
O
O
A
J
Thanks
very
much
chair
king
and
thanks
ron
for
being
here,
and
I
I
support
your
position
that
I
know
you've
debated
and
gone
through
and
there's
a
number
of
caveats
that
are
included
in
there,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
those
caveats
when
they
go
to
planning
committee
have
teeth
that
they're
strong
and
that
we're
not
just
seeing
a
demolition
occur
without
the
other
pieces
there
that
involve
the
adaptive
reuse
of
this
building.
So
I'm
not
sure
ron.
O
J
Okay,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I'll,
be
speaking
today
to
staff
and
giving
direction
about
working
together
towards
planning
can
be
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
aware
of
what
that
means
and
if
there's
any
immediate
amendments
to
that
to
make
sure
we
have
the
teeth
that
you've
outlined
in
your
motion
secured
before
this
moves
forward
and
also
with
regard
to
the
heritage
attributes
of
of
the
chapel
and
affordable
housing.
So
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
O
A
O
O
O
K
Thank
you
was
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
heritage.
Ottawa
is
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
staff
recommendation
for
the
chevrolet
building
at
175
main
street,
a
property
designated
under
part
four
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
We
strongly
supported
the
designation
of
this
property
in
2013
and
were
pleased
two
years
later,
when
the
new
owner
regional
group
purchased
the
entire
roblates
property
and
made
a
commitment
to
preserve
the
heritage
designated
building
over
the
past
five
years.
K
K
We
were
disappointed,
however,
that
a
condition
of
such
use
seemed
to
be
the
removal
of
the
1950s
edition
which
housed
the
former
chapel,
which
had
been
specifically
protected.
As
part
of
the
designation,
we
are
even
more
disappointed
that
city
staff
are
supporting
the
application
of
regional
group
and
the
cecce
to
demolish
the
significant
portion
of
the
heritage
property.
K
K
The
fact
that
the
new
owner
apparently
has
no
use
for
this
part
of
the
building
is
not
in
itself
a
reason
to
seek
its
demolition,
nor
is
the
city
of
ottawa,
recreation,
cultural
and
facility
services.
Determination
quote
that
the
chapel
wing
was
not
adequate
for
a
community
center.
That
includes
a
gymnasium
unquote.
K
K
A
P
P
I
know
that
counselor
rockington
asked
a
question
about
you
know
what
the
background
of
the
intervener
is.
So
I
should
get
that
out
in
front
my
wife
and
I
are
30-year
residents
of
old
ottawa
east
we've
been
in
ottawa
itself
for
50
years,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
the
site.
It's
a
place
that
we
can
walk
to
quite
quick
regularly
and
we
certainly
enjoy
the
view
of
the
building
both
from
the
front
and
the
back
when
we
walk
along
the
river.
P
J
P
Are
still
very
much
concerned
that
the
motion
of
our
community
association
is
being
read
exclusively
as
one
of
support
for
demolition,
but
in
fact
it
reads
in
the
reverse:
demolition
is
not
supported
unless
two
other
conditions
are
met
beforehand
and
those
two
conditions
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
of
detail.
From
our
perspective,
as
opposed
to
what
we've
heard,
some
of
the
other
professionals
say,
the
sale
of
the
building
of
the
school
board
is
conditional
and
we
still
haven't,
heard
or
seen,
really
clear
indication.
P
The
board
has
all
its
necessary
authorities,
including
provincial,
for
placing
a
school
in
a
mixed
use
facility,
local
zoning
notwithstanding,
that
would
include
both
social
housing
residences
and
community
activities.
The
school
board
is
also
quoted
as
saying
it
has
no
educational
program
use
for
the
chapel
wing,
but
that
alone
does
not
exactly
ask
for
its
demolition.
P
P
P
So,
for
both
of
these
preconditions,
we
view
that
funding
from
other
sources
will
be
necessary
and,
as
we
can
all
appreciate
in
post,
covet
19
budgeting,
both
the
province,
the
city
and
all
the
school
boards
may
have
to
adjust
capital
project
schedules,
while
debt
and
deficits
are
met
and
the
operating
budgets
return
to
normal.
There
is
a
clear
risk
that
the
school
repurposing
project
and
the
community
center
could
be
put
on
the
back
burner
until
cash
flows
of
both
levels
of
governments
are
stabilized.
P
J
J
I
want
to
reiterate
the
point
of
to
mr
rose
that
I
made
as
well
that
there's
a
need
here
to
work
with
staff
to
make
sure
that
the
uses
you're
talking
about
and
the
conditions
you're
speaking
about,
have
more
teeth,
and
so
we
will
endeavor
to
do
that
at
the
prior
to
planning
committee
and
at
planning
committee.
So
I
appreciate
you
speaking
with
us.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
that's
that's
part
of
our
plan
and
to
go
forward.
J
P
I
I'm
I
was
aware
of
the
the
hold
flag
being
proposed
to
be
put
on.
That
certainly
is
helpful,
but
I
I
want
to
make
it
fairly
clear
that
the
community
at
large,
and
certainly
the
debate
at
the
community
association
meeting
focused
on
the
need
for
community
space
in
the
community
and
certainly
in
greystones,
would
be
preferred,
but
it's
not
the
only
option
available
to
the
community.
There
are
other
green
spaces
and
open
spaces
in
the
community.
That
could
also
be
repurposed
for
a
community
center
with
a
large
gym.
P
A
D
D
This,
the
chapel
edition,
clearly
is
a
character
defining
element.
It's
called
out
on
the
heritage
character
statement,
so
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
we
go
about
choosing
the
standards
that
apply
to
a
specific
application.
It
you
know
it's
not
a
menu.
Like
I
think
standard
two
is
a
very
obvious
standard
that
applies
to
this
application
and
I
don't
know
why
it
wasn't
included.
F
Question
through
you
that
can
everyone
here:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
through
youtube.
Thank
you
for
the
question
staff
review,
all
the
applicable
standards
and
guidelines
to
see
which
apply,
and
in
this
case
I
would
put
forward
that
standard
two
about
the
elements
becoming
important
over
time
in
their
own
right
is
being
applied
because
we've
identified
that
that
as
being
the
portion,
the
primary
portion
of
the
chatelet
building.
So
in
the
image
I
had
up
in
my
presentation,
you
saw
the
primary
portion
in
1885
editions
in
1925
editions
in
1950.
F
So
all
of
those
additions
have
been
recognized
over
time
as
being
important
in
its
own
right
in
terms
of
the
chapel
wing.
The
chapel
itself
is
identified
as
a
heritage
attribute.
The
wing
is
not
so.
The
wing
is
certainly
designated
as
part
of
the
part
for
designation,
but
there's
a
distinction
there
so
we're
recognizing
that
the
chapel
is
significant
and
that
the
loss
of
the
chapel
itself
is
a
negative
impact.
But
in
our
opinion,
it's
balanced
by
finding
a
sustainable,
long-term
use
for
the
primary
portion
of
the
building.
D
We
spoke
a
lot
about
you
know,
trying
to
find
a
use
for
the
chapel.
I
I'm
curious
as
to
what
up
I'm
curious
as
to
what
options
were
explored.
So
it's
because
it
sounds
like
from
from
our
discussion
today.
It
sounds
like
well,
the
gym
did
not
fit
so
we
can't
you
know
and
there's
no
other
use.
I
I
don't
know
I
look
at
that
space
and
I
I
have
like
five
ideas
that
pop
into
mine,
so
I
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what
options
and
what
sort
of
alternate
uses
were
explored.
F
But
when
we
started
to
review
the
application,
we
asked
for
a
request
for
all
the
different
uses
that
had
been
considered
since
regional
had
owned
the
property
in
2015,
and
we
spoke
to
some
of
them
today,
but
that
included
a
retirement
home,
a
community
hub
with
a
health
care
center
and
day
care
center,
live
work,
concepts,
residential
uses
and
then
what's
in
front
of
you
today,
which
is
the
the
school
used
in
the
gymnasium.
But
I
would
ask
maybe,
if
kelly
had
any
additional
uses,
I'm
not
mentioning
here.
C
Oh
okay,
great
so,
and
and
mentioned
them
all,
amanda
that
we
we
have
done.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
specifically
on
the
chapel
wing
to
try
to
find
uses,
so
the
the
city
explored
all
of
their
options
with
parks
and
rec,
gymnasium
and
other
community
uses,
and
they
confirmed
they.
It
didn't
work
for
them.
Another
couple
uses
we
did
look
with
the
arts
scene
if
we
could
get
an
arts
or
a
live
work
program
as
well
in
there
too,
and
that
I
was
not
able
to
move
forward.
D
Such
as,
like
a
dining
hall
or
an
auditorium,
were
those
considered
because
I
I
see
like
I
see
potential
there
for
a
retirement
home
to
use
that
as
the
dining
hall,
for
example,
and
the
school
could
use
that
as
their
assembly
assembly
hold.
So
there
were
specific
uses
for
the
actual
chapel
space,
considered
and
sort
of
pros
and
cons
like
were
there
options,
analysis
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing
specific
to
that
space.
Since
it
is
a
designated
interior
space.
C
For
sure,
so
we
before
my
time
at
regional,
that
we
had
several
retirement
residents,
look
at
purchasing
the
entire
de
chatelet
building
with
the
chapel
wing,
and
I
think
it
was
about
two
or
three
different
groups
that
came
through
all
of
which
had
real
issues
and
concerns
with
repurposing
the
chapel
itself,
the
space
itself,
as
well
as
with
the
wing,
and
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
speak
any
further
to
that.
Gord
was
on
the
file
from
the
very
beginning.
C
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
am
I,
I
guess
it's
a
two-part
question.
Am
I
correct
that
that
the
applicant
does
not
have
to
come
back
for
site
plan
control,
and
if
that
is
the
case,
how
are
we
to
be
assured
just
how
much
community
space
is
going
to
be
allotted,
given
our
decision
today
and
moving
forward
with
with
this
application.
F
G
B
G
It
in
writing
when
this
before
this
comes
back
to
planning
and
ultimately
to
counsel
I
do
want
in
writing
the
exact
process
for
how
we're
going
to
ensure
that
we
have
affordable
housing
here.
I
want
to
ensure
that
that
that
the
education
act
allows
for
housing
as
a
permissible
use
talked
about
rentals
and
what
that
means,
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
ensure
that
I
want
to
ensure
that
the
rfp
process
is
is
allowed
through
the
education
act.
G
G
G
B
B
The
main
aspect
of
it
would
be
to
add
the
permitted
use
of
the
school
into
the
zone
that
in
itself
does
not
trigger
the
need
for
site
plan
control
application
for
the
conversion
of
the
school
itself
if
at
a
later
point
their
ad.
There
is
an
addition
of
other
uses
such
as
residential
uses,
then
perhaps
that
might
trigger,
or
that
would
very
well
trigger
the
need
for
site
language
role
or
other
types
of
planning
approval
applications.
G
B
G
That
include
not
just
housing,
but
the
community
center
use
with
that
at
what
point,
I
guess
I'm
what
I'm
asking?
What
I
want
to
know
is
at
what
point
do
we
know
how
much
is
being
allotted
for
community
use
in
in
this
application?
How
much
of
of
the
you
know
the
final
site
will
have
a
community
use?
I
think
it's
important
as
a
you
know.
Is
it
going
to
be
you
know
five
percent
10
20
or
do
we
not
know?
Are
we.
B
B
As
far
as
answering
a
question
for
from
timelines,
I
can't
answer
that
question.
I
know
kevin
weary
is
on
the
line
as
well.
I
see
his
name
there,
so
perhaps
he
can
speak
to
it,
but
I
can
speak
to
the
fact
that
whenever
those
decisions
are
made
or
when
those
timelines
are
known,
then
absolutely
that
part
of
the
project
will
need
to
go
through
site
plan
control
and
and
perhaps
further
zoning
really
for
or
whatnot,
but
for
sure,
slight
blind
control.
Once
those
timelines
are
known.
G
Okay,
so
I'm
a
chair
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
that.
For
that
response,
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
give
it
my
direction.
I
know
that
again.
I
know
that
council
menard
continues
to
work,
especially
going
into
planning
committee
to
ensure
that
we
have
more
detail
around
the
the
mou.
G
G
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
chair
kim.
This
has
to
do
with
the
appro
the
approval
process
under
the
terror
heritage
act,
and
what
I'm
surprised
by
is
the
diversion
from
our
our
common
practice
of
requiring
a
development
proposal
to
be
submitted
with
perhaps
a
demolition
included
in
the
proposal
for
adaptive
reuse.
E
In
this
case,
we
don't
have
any
proposal
for
adaptive,
reuse
of
the
main
part
of
the
deschatel,
a
building
and
the
questions
that
people
have
asked
are
trying
to
penetrate
the
fog
of
uncertainty,
about
the
reality
of
community
use,
whether
it's
a
school
combined
with
a
community
center
combined
with
social
housing.
So
my
question
to
to
ann
is:
did
you
not
recommend
to
the
developer
that
they
actually
submit
an
application
for
adaptive?
E
Reuse,
which
includes
the
demolition,
because
that
is
the
you
know-
the
prudence
that
we've
always
taken
in
the
heritage
policy,
where
you
actually
have
a
proposal
in
front
which
has
been
sufficiently
hardened
so
that
the
trade-off
between
community
benefits
and
the
loss
of
a
significant
piece
of
the
city's
heritage
can
be
balanced
by
this
committee
planning
committee
and
council.
So
did
you
recommend
to
the
regional
at
any
point
that
they
ought
to
put
in
an
application
for
adaptive
reuse
prior
to
a
separate
application
for
demolition.
F
Through
you
chair,
I
hope
I'm
understanding
your
question
correctly.
Member
podolski,
but
I
think
the
approach
that's
here
is
not
really
a
departure
from
our
standard
practice.
We
have
an
application
to
alter
building
which
includes
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing,
and
we
have
concurrently
an
application
for
adaptive,
reuse,
which
is
headed
to
planning
committee
concurrently
to
this
application.
So
we
did
try
to
tie
it
to
the
adaptive,
reuse
application
and
if,
if
I
can
ask
eric,
if
you're
able
to
put
up
my
presentation,
maybe
the
if
I
can
focus?
F
Oh
thanks
eric
if
you,
if
I
can
just
point
out
the
condition
that
we
have
in
the
heritage
report
and
the
holding
zone
provision
that
will
be
in
the
zoning
report.
Maybe
that
would
be
useful
in
showing
how
we
have
tried
to
connect
the
heritage
alteration
application
to
the
adapter
use
of
the
building.
E
F
I
think
it
would
be
similar
to
that,
if
I'm
remembering
correctly
in
that
the
demolition
of
the
parking
lot
building
came
first
and
then
subsequently,
there
was
an
application
for
the
addition
to
the
shadow
laurier
at
a
later
date.
So
I
think
it's
it's
actually
quite
similar
to
that
we're
assessing
the
application
for
demolition
at
this
date
and
there
would
be
future
applications
required
for
any
other
alterations
to
the
building,
including
accessible
making
entrances
accessible
or
accessible,
rather
a
gym.
F
F
E
G
E
F
Yeah,
so
that
the
those
plans
are
proposed
are
not
part
of
this
application
because
they
haven't
been
finalized,
but
we
do
have
them
included
as
part
of
I
referenced
them
in
the
staff
reporters,
including
as
requiring
approval
in
the
future
and
they're
in
the
cultural
heritage.
Impact
statement
of
that
was
submitted
as
part
of
the
application
illustrating
what
conceptually,
what
the
future
use
may
look
like.
So
eric.
If
I
could
ask
you
to
go
to
slide
number
24.
F
Yeah,
that
would
be
helpful,
so
we
have
we
have
it's
not
an
application
and
it's
not
in
front
of
the
committee
today,
but
there
are
illustrative
concepts
of
what
may
happen
with
future
adaptive
reuse
of
the
building,
but
we
want
to
be
a
committee.
Approval
has
to
be
tied
to
plans,
has
to
be
tied
to
specific
plans
and,
what's
in
front
of
the
community
today,
is
the
application
for
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing.
F
So
we
did
not
want
to
tie
it
to
sort
of
hypothetical
or
conceptual
plans
that
haven't
been
finalized
when
we
don't
know
the
details
of
that.
Yet
these
plans,
or
some
version
of
these
plans
when
they
are
finalized,
will
require
heritage,
permit
approval.
So
there
are
future
plans,
but
they're
not
finalized.
F
If
you
look
at
1a,
you
can
see
that
we've
added
a
condition
that
the
approval
of
the
zoning
so
while
starting
an
approval
of
the
application
to
alter
the
building
conditional
upon
the
approval
of
the
zoning
viola
amendment
to
permit
the
existing
to
shadowlay
building
to
be
converted
to
a
school
and
that
such
amendment
be
in
full
force
and
effect
and
then
on
the
next
slide.
Eric
within
the
zone.
F
Imbala
amendment
report
that's
going
to
planning
committee
on
thursday
we've
added
a
holding
a
holding
zone
to
the
building
itself,
which
you
can
see
there
part
five.
The
holding
symbol
may
not
be
removed
until
the
signing
of
an
agreement
with
the
city
for
its
use
as
a
school
or
community
use,
or
the
submission
of
an
application
for
a
building
permit
relating
to
abatement
or
remediation
work
for
a
school
or
community
use.
F
So
I'll
just
leave
that
up
on
screen
so
that
it
is
so
so
that
people
have
the
chance
to
read
it.
But
that's
part
of
the
of
the
zoning
bottle
amendment
report
going
forward
thursday
and
the
idea
there
is
to
tie
the
heritage.
Permit
application
that
we
have
in
front
of
the
committee
today
to
the
adaptive
reuse
sort
of
as
tightly
as
we
could.
E
F
No
through
youtube,
the
submission
of
additional
heritage
permits
is
not
included
as
part
of
a
condition
so
that
that
has
not
been.
That
has
not
been
made
part
of
a
condition
for
approval.
We
have
the
condition
related
to
the
zoning
vial
amendment
being
enforced
in
effect
and
then
the
holding
symbol.
That's
that's
on
the
screen
here
regarding
the
agreement
or
the
submission
of
a
building
permit
for
abatement
or
remediation
work,
but
not
a
heritage.
Permit
application.
F
Part
of
the
reason
for
for
not
including
it
is
that
this
could
be
a
phased.
This
could
be
a
phased
project.
So
if
the
school
were
to
open
in,
let's
say
fall
of
2021,
there
may
be
a
heritage,
permanent
application
associated
with
alteration
to
the
entrances
and
in
the
future
there
may
be
a
heritage,
permanent
application
for
the
addition
of
a
gymnasium.
F
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
king.
I
have
a
second
question
which
has
to
do
with
the
portion
of
the
land
towards
the
river,
where
the
footprint
of
the
existing
chapel
wing
occupies
right
now,
and
that
is
will
the
new
buildings
that
are
to
be
built
by
the
regional
group
towards
the
river.
Will
they
be
subject
to
any
heritage
review
because
they
will
be
crossing
the
footprint
of
the
former
chapel
wing?
If
that
is
approved
for
being
demolished.
F
Through
through
you
chair,
the
additional
buildings
to
the
east
of
the
national,
a
buildings
would
not
require
they
would
not
require
heritage
approval
because
they
are
not
they're,
not
included
within
the
designation.
I
would
say
the
heritage
review
process
would
happen
through
an
addendum
to
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement,
but
no
heritage's
heritage
approval
is
required
for
for
those
buildings
and
and
that's
been
consistent
with
the
other
development
on
the
site
as
well.
A
J
J
C
J
J
F
Do
you
chair
if
the
conditions
of
the
of
the
zoning
report
and
the
holding
zone
are
met,
then
then,
yes,
the
the
demolition
could
go
forward.
So
what
the
conditions
are,
what
the
application
is
tied
to
is
exactly
what
those
conditions
say
so,
once
they're
met
the
holding
zone
could
be
lifted
and
the
demolition
could
go
forward.
J
And-
and
I
think
that's
important-
that's
why
I
want
those
conditions
to
be
fairly
stringent
at
this
point,
and
I
do
have
some
direction
on
that
chair
and
I
can
give
that
in
a
moment
after
the
next
couple
of
questions.
So
what
who,
who
is
actually
responsible
for
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing?
That's
regional,
yeah,
okay,
and-
and
in
this
case
it
seems
as
though
the
chapel
could
be
demolished
without
the
school
or
community
center.
Proceeding,
despite
despite
the
conditions
we've
put
on
it.
And
so
that's
my
concern.
J
And
so
I
want
to
give
direction
now
to
to
make
sure
we're
working
as
much
as
possible
to
shore
those
up.
And
so
the
direction
is
that
city
staff
work
in
conjunction
with
the
local
councillor
in
advance
of
planning
committee
on
september
10.
To
ensure
the
holding
condition
is
sufficient
to
prevent
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
wing.
J
Should
a
final
sale
to
the
cece,
with
authorities
in
place
for
a
mixed
use
facility
not
occur,
including
more
substantive
information
needed
for
adaptive,
reuse
and
work
on
a
process
to
review
opportunities
for
a
display
within
the
remaining
building.
That
would
commemorate
the
chapel
so
I'll
give
that
direction.
Now
my
understanding
of
staff
is
prepared
to
accept
that.
F
M
M
The
planning
application
is
dealing
with
zoning
under
the
planning
act
and,
and
while
staff
have
tried
to
tie
it,
I
think
we
need
to
be
concerned
with
the
idea
of
zoning
for
a
particular
user,
and,
and
that
is
something
that
would
leave
the
city
open
to
exposure.
So,
for
example,
the
holding
provision
tied
to
the
particular
sale
to
this
school
or
school
board
would
be
zoning
for
a
specific
user,
which
is
why
the
staff
recommendation
is
crafted
in
the
way
that
it
is
so.
M
Certainly,
I
think
the
direction
to
staff
is
good
in
that
staff
do
wish
to
work
with
the
ward
councillor
and
the
department
of
development
review
and
planning
in
order
to
ensure
that
all
concerns
are
met
on
this,
but
to
tie
it
as
tightly
as
ensuring
the
sail
proceeds
to
a
particular
user
could
be
problematic
for
the
city.
From
a
challenge
perspective.
J
No,
I
I
understand
what
masenta
is
saying:
the
direction
doesn't
need
to
be
amended.
It
speaks
to
that
already
it's
it's
about
ensuring
that
we
have
that
discussion
so
that
the
holding
symbol
as
it's
currently
crafted
meets
the
objectives
as
best
as
possible.
So
I
think
I
think
we're
good
with
the
direction
and
we'll
have
to
see
how
things
push
out
at
planning
committee,
but
I
certainly
understand
what
you're
saying
chair
and
and
what
miss
enta
has
indicated
so
we'll
work
together
on
that
before
planning.
J
Okay,
thanks
very
much
chair,
and
so
I
just
have
a
few
other
questions.
The
view
of
the
chapel
from
the
multi-use
pathway
behind
the
day
shadow
lake
building
is
also
important
to
the
community,
though
it's
not
protected
within
the
cultural
landscape
portion
of
the
heritage
designation.
Is
there
a
way
to
retain
some
of
the
visual
connection
between
the
river
pathway
and
the
day
shuttle
a
building
that
could
be
enforced
either
through
this
application
or
in
the
future?
J
I
understand:
there's
a
development
potential
back
there
with
other
buildings
that
regionals
been
talking
about,
and
I
understand
I
understand
that.
But
there
is
a
there's,
an
element
of
a
concern
around
the
heritage
aspects
of
those
viewpoints
from
the
river
itself,
not
just
from
main
street.
So
I
don't
know
if
someone
can
address
that
as
well
as
well.
F
J
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
and
the
the
demolition
of
the
chapel
hinges
on
somewhat
on
the
calculations
that
the
space
is
not
large
enough
to
to
house
a
gym
which
is
planned
for
the
parcel
north
of
the
chevrolet
building.
Amongst
many
other
issues,
can
you
please,
before
planning
committee,
send
us
the
dimensions
for
the
potential
northern
parcel
and
space
requirements
for
a
gym
in
the
northern
portion?
J
J
J
This
is
part
of
the
jewel
that
makes
up
the
treasure,
that
is
the
de
chatelet
building,
and
while
this
is
the
case,
it
also
represents
an
important
community
piece
towards
the
construction
of
a
community
center,
a
school
potential
for
affordable
housing
units,
and
thank
you
to
councillor
mckinney
for
raising
that's
another
important
point
all
within
the
day
shot
lily
building
and
surrounding
it,
and
so
you
know
returning
life
and
community
utility
to
this
historic
site.
It
is.
J
You
know
for
adaptive,
reuse,
if
we're
going
to
be
losing
one
of
the
assets
like
this
within
the
community.
I
know
heritage
staff
have
linked
the
application
to
the
proposed.
You
know,
reuse.
I
was
happy
with
mr
podolski's
comments
around
that
I
think
help
clarify
where
we
are.
I
know
an
mou
is
being
worked
on
right
now
between
the
city,
recreation
department
and
the
school
board
on
a
community
center
and
the
reuse
of
the
building
and
is
scheduled
to
go
to
council
in
october
for
approval.
J
I'm
also
very
aware
that
the
old
ottawa
community
association
has
been
very
clear
about
their
resolution
and
they're,
not
the
only
ones.
The
the
community
activity
group
of
oladus
has
also
signed
a
letter
of
interest
outlining
mutual
community
objectives
that
could
be
achieved
through
the
thoughtful
integration
of
a
school
and
community
center
and
gymnasium
facility
within
the
larger
neighborhood.
J
You
know,
given
the
heritage
nature
of
the
chapel
wing,
I
do
understand
the
objections
to
its
demolition,
and
you
know
I
think
neither
the
city,
the
school
board
or
the
current
or
the
property
are
willing
or
are
able
to
renovate
and
reuse
the
chapel.
We
support
this
application
as
a
means
towards
enabling
community
use
of
the
site,
and
so,
though,
it
is
difficult
and
it
and
I
think,
a
tough
decision
to
make
for
for
many
parties.
J
A
Thank
you,
councilor
menard,
and
I'm
going
to
just
add
on
to
what
you
in
a
sense
were
saying.
Procedurally
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
ask
committee
members
or
whether
they
have
any
wrap
up
comments
before
they
vote.
I'd
like
just
to
take
the
opportunity
to
apologize
to
members
as
at
council
and,
as
you
might
know,
I'm
a
relatively
new
member
of
council.
A
A
But
I
don't
know
if
that
exceeds
the
rules
and
in
terms
of
rules
of
procedure.
So
I
just
for
clarity.
I
want
to
ensure
that
committee
members
do
have
the
opportunity
to
make
any
wrap-up
comments
if,
if
they
feel
that
they
want
to
before
the
vote-
and
I
do
see
that
member
padelski
is
has
his
hand
raised.
E
E
E
Initially,
the
award-winning
master
plan
that
was
produced
by
my
colleagues,
open
architecture
included
the
full
adaptive
reuse
of
the
de
chatelet
building
and
from
an
early
version
which
had
quite
good
views
from
the
river
to
the
shadowy
building.
The
latest
version,
which
has
no
status
or
hasn't
been
involved
in
any
public
consultation,
yet
shows
a
wall
of
six
story
residential
buildings
that
would
limit
the
views
from
the
river
to
the
de
chatelet
building,
and
I
think
that
that
would
impoverish
the
appreciation
of
it
from
the
riverside,
which
is,
of
course,
the
public
realm.
E
H
H
It
has
evolved
that
way
and
clearly,
in
response
to
a
question
about
whether
it's
a
deal
breaker
or
not,
for
the
school
board,
I'm
not
hearing
that
it
is.
It
would
reopen
some
a
need
for
an
amendment
to
the
agreement,
but
it
it's
not
a
deal
breaker
and
I
think,
there's
still
opportunity
for
this
to
progress
before
we
need
to
make
a
decision
on
the
heritage
wing,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
my
colleagues
that
that
is
in
fact,
this
committee's
responsibility.
H
It's
the
protection
of
the
heritage,
value
of
this
site,
and
so,
with
that
in
mind,
I
cannot
in
all
good
conscience,
vote
to
support
the
demolition
of
a
very
important
wing
that
includes
a
very
important
modernist
chapel,
designed
by
an
important
canadian
modernist
architect.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
A
I
do
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
we
will
need
some
stronger
direction
and
some
stronger
indications,
and
I
do
believe
that
that
that
process
is
is
better
left
better
suited
for
planning.
So
it
will
be
address
that
planning
committee.
It's
very
important.
I
think
adaptive
reuses
is
very
key
to
this
project
and
we
must
seek-
and
this
is
where
I
do
agree
with
our
heritage
staff.
A
I
think
we
must
seek
that
balance
between
the
proposed
alterations
in
the
balance
of
cultural
heritage
preservation
with
establishments
of
the
long-term
use
of
the
building.
I
I
do
believe
that
the
proposal
will
allow
the
building
to
continue
to
evolve
while
conserving
the
fundamental
cultural
heritage
value
of
the
structure.
A
I
think
it
is
important.
I
know
it
was
stated
before
that
there
have
been
past
examples
in
our
city
of
buildings
that
have
just
been
waiting
and
waiting
and
waiting
for
adoptive
reuse.
I
think
we
have
us
a
catalyst
reuse
here
in
in
this
project,
but,
as
my
as
my
colleagues
have
said,
obviously
we
need
some
stronger
direction
to
to
ensure
that
we
get
to
the
place
that
we
want
to
get
in
terms
of
of
that
use,
especially
the
affordable
housing
use.
M
E
D
K
B
C
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
brockington,
and
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
number
two
application
to
altar
235
mariposa
avenue
a
properly
a
property
located
in
the
rockland
park,
heritage
conservation,
district
designated
under
part
5
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
I
do
believe
that
there
is
a
replacement
motion,
technical
motion.
I
believe
that
needs
to
be.
H
H
The
plans
by
jim
bell
architectural
design
inc
dated
july
9
2020
and
received
on
july
14
2020,
be
replaced
by
the
jim
bell
architectural
design,
inc
plans
dated
and
received
september
3rd
2020,
reflecting
a
change
in
primary
cladding
from
cultured
stone
to
brick
for
the
exterior
of
the
building
two
that
recommendation
to
be
updated
to
reflect
the
new
plans.
Accordingly.
A
A
A
Q
Okay,
great
thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
this
application
relates
to
the
property
at
235.
Mariposa
avenue
on
the
next
slide.
You'll
see
that
the
property
is
located
in
the
rockland
park,
heritage
conservation
district
and
it's
designated
under
part
5
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
It's
located
on
the
north
side
of
mariposa
avenue,
mid-block
between
springfield
road
and
manor
avenue.
Q
You'll
see
this
is
the
existing
a
photo
of
the
existing
property.
The
property
currently
functions
as
the
official
residence
of
the
high
commissioner
to
uganda
and
the
property
currently
contains
a
two
and
a
half
story.
Stucco
cloud
house
constructed
in
the
1950s,
the
garage
as
well
as
a
rear,
shed
dormer,
are
later
additions
to
the
house,
and
this
is
a
grade:
2
non-contributing
property
in
the
hcd,
so
the
property
features
typical
landscape
elements
of
rock
lift,
with
its
open
front
yard,
mature
trees
and
hedges
in
the
rear
yard.
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
proposal
also
includes
a
request
to
increase
the
height
of
the
main
building.
So
in
this
image
you
can
see
the
outline
of
the
existing
structure
in
red
with
the
proposed
building
in
black
and
white,
so
these
changes
will
meet
the
proposal
or
the
rather,
the
provisions
outlined
in
the
zoning
bylaw
for
height
and
setback,
with
the
exception
of
a
variance,
that's
required
to
recognize
an
existing
legal
non-complying
side
yard
setback
on
the
east
next
slide.
Q
You
can
see
the
alterations
include
the
removal
of
the
existing
stucco,
the
addition
of
cable
dormers
on
the
front
facade,
as
well
as
a
shed
dormer
to
replace
an
existing
dormer
at
the
rear.
Brick
clouding
is
proposed
for
the
primary
material
for
the
main
building
and
the
extension
to
the
rear,
with
horizontal
siding
for
secondary
massing
such
as
the
garage
and
the
dormers.
Q
B
Q
So
this
is
the
rear
elevation,
which
shows
the
proposed
covered
porch
and
patio
area
on
the
ground
floor
with
a
second
floor
terrace
that
will
replace
the
existing
rear,
canopy
and
a
small
second
floor
balcony
next
slide
in
terms
of
landscaping.
The
existing
semi-circular
driveway
will
be
replaced
with
a
linear,
driveway
narrow
walkways
to
the
rear.
Q
Q
Q
So
in
this
case
the
applicant
has
made
several
revisions
to
the
project
based
on
multiple
rounds
of
comments
that
were
provided
from
staff
and
the
community
beginning
late
last
year
and
stretching
into
this
spring.
So
over
the
summer,
the
applicant
submitted
this
formal
application
under
the
heritage
act
and
during
that
formal
circulation.
Q
A
A
B
Mr
chair,
very
briefly,
this
is
a
good
example
of
where
issues
within
the
community
are
raised
and
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
proponent
and
staff
and
the
community
to
hammer
them
out
with
respect
to
the
motion
that
vice
chair
quinn
read
today,
so
I
I
just
want
to
say
I'm.
I
applaud
that.
That's
what
really
should
happen
before
matters
come
to
the
subcommittee
and
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
the
staff
recommendation.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
brockington
and
I
see
no
other
hands,
but
I
will
also
provide
just
a
short
wrap
up
where
I
have
to
say
it
concur
with
councillor
brockington
as
the
ward
councillor
for
this
area.
You
know
as
part
of
the
heritage
planning,
branch's
new
heritage,
pre-consultation
pilot
program.
The
residents
association's
heritage
committee
was
able
to
participate
in
a
pre-consultation
and
that
did
impact
the
nature
of
of
this
application.
A
I
think
that
that's
the
road
where
we
want
to
go
down
a
little
bit
more
consultation
with
the
community
and
developers
so
that
we
we
get
obviously
not
to
unanimity
but
to
a
certain
level
of
agreement
and
improvement
in
terms
of
the
the
types
of
projects
that
that
move
forward.
So
I
would
be
in
favor
of
supporting
this
this
item,
noting
that
there
were
no
questions.
I'm
assuming
this
is
not
going
to
yay's
and
nays.
Is
the
report
carried.
A
A
Received
in
camera
items,
there
are
none
to
date,
notices
a
motion
for
consideration
of
subsequent
meeting,
there's
none
to
date,
inquiries,
none
to
date,
and
there
is
just
a
other
business,
seeing
no
other
business.
The
one
of
the
final
items
is
planning
circulations
official
plan
amendments
and
zoning
bylaw.
Amendment
proposal
summary
gladstone
station
district
secondary
plan.
There
is
a
planning
circulation
on
the
agenda
which
was
distributed
to
members
prior
to
the
meeting.
Members
of
the
public
had
the
opportunity
to
comment
through
devops
on
ottawa.ca.