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From YouTube: Ottawa City Council – August 28, 2013
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Ottawa City Council meeting – August 28, 2013
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas
A
C
A
D
B
You
mr.
mayor
welcome
tenor.
Michael
cardi
has
worked
and
lived
in
old,
Auto,
a
south
and
Sandy
Hill
for
20
years.
In
addition
to
his
work
as
a
solo
and
choral
singer,
he
is
a
freelance,
simultaneous
interpreter
and
radio
producer
Michael
has
just
returned
from
a
tour
of
Scotland
and
England
with
the
christchurch
cathedral
choir
of
men
and
boys,
and
he
has
also
performed
several
concerts
recently
in
Germany.
A
D
D
D
We
served
for
five
years
as
chairman,
as
well
as
the
kanata
Legion,
where
he
served
as
chairman
sergeant
of
arms
and
parade
commander.
He
was
also
a
founding
member
and
past
chair
of
the
pennies
Point
foundation,
where
he
helped
to
restore
the
property
and
negotiate
the
handover
of
the
property
to
the
city
as
a
heritage
park.
Major
Barry
is
a
22
year
member
of
unit,
seven
of
the
Korean
veteran
Association.
D
Where
is
currently
both
the
sergeant
at
arms
and
parade
commander,
he
is
also
an
avid
motorcyclist
as
part
of
the
local
chapter
of
the
Army
veterans
motorcycle
unit
for
his
named
rider
of
the
year
in
2009.
It's
fitting
that
we
have
major
very
receiving
this
award
in
2013,
which
is
the
year
of
the
Korean
veteran
in
Canada,
so
don't
hold
them
off
yeah
it's
this
Wow
guys.
It.
D
D
That
alone
would
be
reason
enough
to
celebrate
nature
very,
but
he
has
lived
a
life
of
service
to
this
community,
which
is
why
we're
here
today,
for
all
that
you
have
done
and
continue
to
do,
for
your
fellow
residents
and
fellow
veterans
in
Ottawa
I
want
to
sincerely
thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
community
and
it's
my
honor,
along
with
our
deputy
mayor
in
your
city,
councilor
Eli,
L
santeri,
presenting
with
the
city
builder
a
job
well
done!
Congratulations.
D
A
D
A
D
Okay,
so
first
item
is
the
Ontario
loitering
gaming
RFP
process
and,
as
you
know,
from
the
clerk's
memo
we'll
deal
with
all
three
items,
which
is
the
fed
commotion,
the
health
report
and
the
transportation
economic
development
studies
issue
that
are
all
on
the
agenda
today.
So
we'll
come
back
to
to
those
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
D
D
Carry
adopt
a
planning
committee
report
number
54
zone,
as
wit
wit
system,
a
March
8
8
6
March
Road
carried
zoning
1
1
9
4
Karp
road,
an
if
caption
a
carp
parent
zoning,
320
McLeod
Street
12,
a
McLeod
carried
adopt
a
Official
Plan
and
zoning
319
McCrae
Avenue
plan
official
a
zone
as
dois
Saudi
sniff
Avenue
McRae
carried
a
zoning
335
Michael
Copeland
drive
recite
promenade
Michael
Copeland
carried
bulk
consent
agenda
is
presented
as
anyone
wish
to
remove
anything
callous
or
blowers.
I'd
like
to
hold
a
pine
un
placement.
Ok,
that's
item
number
D.
D
Does
anyone
else
wish
to
hold
anything
on
the
bulk
consent
agenda
on
the
bulk
consent
agenda
as
presented
Pineview
Carrie
disposition
of
items
approved
by
committee
under
delegated
authority
received
okay.
So
we
go
back
to
the
first
item
and
I
believe
everyone
did
receive
a
copy
of
the
the
clerks
memo
which
lumps
all
of
the
items
under
the
OLG
RFP
process
together.
D
So
just
to
remind
people
at
the
deputy
clerk,
the
motion,
as
moved
by
Councillor
McCray
and
seconded
by
Councillor,
Tierney
I,
believe
all
right
so
just
to
remind
everyone
before
we
open
up
the
floor.
The
first
item
is
the
selection
of
Rideau
Carleton
with
the
allocation.
The
second
is
I'll
call
it.
The
Tierney
motion,
which
is
the
Health
Department
recommendations.
D
Item
three
in
essence,
is
council
or
who
did
I,
say
Terry,
sorry,
counselor
egg
lie
number
three
is
in
essence:
what
councillor
Dean's
put
forward
with
respect
to
transportation,
studies
and
subsection,
a
is
transportation,
transportation,
master
plan
economic
development
on
number
four
to
receive
the
Board
of
Health
and
item
number.
Six
is
moving
the
request
for
funding
from
the
city
for
problem
gaming
to
the
budget
process.
D
E
Put
it
on
the
board
as
well,
because
it
is
in
fact
a
deferral
motion.
I'll
read
it
out,
because
it's
new,
where
it's
clear
that
members
of
council
are
united
and
wanting
to
ensure
that
the
Rideau
Carleton
Raceway
is
sufficiently
funded
to
continue
operation
in
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
where,
as
a
representative
from
RCR,
who
spoke
with
the
fedko
meeting
of
August,
26,
clearly
indicated
that
they
could
continue
operations
through
a
combination
of
funding
that
the
province
will
provide,
as
replacement
to
the
cutoff
slots,
revenue,
which
was
cancelled.
E
Authority
has
a
state
of
IRC
at
the
Fed
Co
meeting,
then
negotiated
is
set
to
be
signed
within
a
few
days,
providing
information
on
the
amount
to
be
received,
in
addition
to
the
transitional
funding
in
nineteen
twenty
fourteen
and
the
amount
to
be
set
by
the
province
survey.
Part
of
the
Ontario
horse
racing
industry
panel
in
future
years.
E
Whereas
having
this
information
will
provide
counsel
with
knowledge
about
the
funding
needed
to
keep
our
co-operation
operating
in
the
future
and
where
PA's
concern
has
been
expressed
about
having
any
business
given
preferential
treatment
as
to
the
location
of
a
casino
operation
or
as
count.
The
council
decision
on
the
procurement
process
and
location
for
a
casino
operation
would
benefit
from
having
information
about
the
future.
E
D
E
You,
mr.
mayor,
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
for
deferral
is
I
have
the
person
like
to
have
all
the
information
available
before
I
start
making
decisions
on
an
item
and
the
funding
that
our
CR
is
going
to
receive
to
replace
what
they've
had
the
slots,
because
the
province
has
in
fact
canceled
the
slaw
operation
at
casinos?
Already
they
just
maintaining
it
by
not
giving
them
a
percentage
of
the
retake
which
they've
had
up
till
last
March,
but
only
given
them
the
rental
income
and
because
they
have
said
they
think
that
they
can
operate
on.
That.
E
It
is
I
think
this
council
has
always
wanted
to
have
full
information
before
making
decisions,
so
it
causes
me
is
why
we
really
haven't
been
given
much
information
on
the
other
sources
of
revenue
for
the
racetrack
and
we
further
hastily
I.
Think
went
from
a
full
open
competition
which
we
originally
approved
to
one
which
is
site
specific
without
having
all
of
the
information
on
the
financing
of
that
site,
specific
location
and
I.
E
Think
at
the
beginning
there
was
even
some
less
understanding
about
the
fact
that
the
slot
operation
has
already
been
cancelled
by
the
province
that
the
10m
10%
they
were
getting
from,
that
they
do
what
no
longer
receive
as
of
the
end
of
March.
They
have
received
some
this
year.
Obviously,
last
year
they
got
thirteen
point
four
million
for
that
calendar
year.
Now
they
get
only
whatever
the
rental
is,
and
we
don't
even
know
what
that
is.
E
So
this
is
just
a
request
to
make
sure
we
have
that
information
before
we
make
a
decision
which
is
a
difficult
one,
I
recognize
and
one
that,
but
one
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
polarization
I,
don't
think
we
need
that
polarization
I
think
we
can
have
it
done
much
more
openly
and
not
create
hard
feelings
with
anybody.
If
we
have
the
information
we
deal
with
it
fairly,
we
allow
people
to
talk
to
each
other,
so
I
would
urge
council
to
say
yes,
we
do
want
to
know.
E
We
do
want
that
information
and
we'd
like
to
have
it
before
we
make
a
decision
not
after
we
make
a
decision,
because
that's
not
the
way
we
normally
operate
and
it's
not
the
way,
I
think
it
should
be,
and
it's
simply
because
I
am
very
much
in
favor,
as
you
already
know,
for
a
very
open
process,
I,
don't
care
who
gets
a
casino
and
I'll.
Tell
you
right
now:
I,
don't
like
casinos!
E
If
you
had
a
motion,
not
have
any
anywhere
I
would
vote
for
it
because
I'm,
not
a
casino
roll
person,
I,
not
pro
any
particular
location,
but
they
differ.
All
will
give
us
the
information
know
if
we
should
be
moving
in
the
direction
of
one
or
another
location,
and
that's
why
after
Monday's
meeting
and
I've
got
that
information
at
that
meeting
from
the
questions,
I
asked
the
RCRA
delegate,
who
was
very
open
and
I.
E
E
They
will
do
that,
because
I
did
speak
to
somebody
at
M
who
told
me
they
are
in
on
progress
to
do
that
so
I'm
not
looking
for
a
long
deferral,
I'm,
not
looking
for
a
final
provincial
decision
on
on
that
report,
because
I
think
the
report
will
be
very
good
and
will
probably
give
us
a
very
strong
handle
on
how
it's
going
to
be
done.
So
that's
why
the
request
is
here.
Mr.
E
D
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
on
deferral,
okay,
I'm,
gonna,
recommend
we
not
defer
this
item
I've
indicated
in
the
past.
There
are
really
two
separate
issues:
the
horse
racing
industry
and
and
the
the
slots,
and
we're
tasked
with
dealing
with
the
o
lg's
responsibility,
which
is
the
slot
so
yeas
and
nays
on
deferral.
Please.
D
D
Do
want
to
emphasize
something
that
which
may
not
have
been
stated
clearly
enough
in
the
last
few
days.
This
is
not
a
popularity
contest
between
the
Rideau
Carleton
Raceway
and
the
Canadian
Tire
Center,
but
we
cannot
have
this
debate
while
pretending
that
we
don't
have
an
existing
facility.
An
existing
gaming
facility
in
our
community,
many
residents
across
the
city
have
told
me
and
other
members
of
council
that
we
should
simply
leave
the
slots
where
they
currently
are.
There's
no
such
thing
as
it
consensus
view
on
this
issue.
D
D
Majority
of
individuals
and
counselors
who
spoke
to
me
on
this
item,
in
fact,
did
not
want
a
casino
in
their
Ward.
It's
very
plain
and
simple,
as
this
item
first
began,
to
take
shape,
I
had
a
number
of
you
come
and
say
you
just
didn't
want
it
in
your
ward,
you
supported
the
Printz
principle
of
having
a
casino
and
I
think.
Ultimately,
what
ended
up
happening
was
that
there
was
an
evolution
of
the
proposal
that
we
see
before
us.
That
really
started
with
my
resolution.
D
Now
the
City
of
Ottawa
inherited
the
slots
operation
from
the
then
city
of
Gloucester,
and
it's
been
an
operation
for
the
last
thirteen
years
or
sona's
contributed
significantly
to
our
economy,
particularly
the
rural
economy
and
the
racetrack
had
just
celebrated
its
fiftieth
anniversary,
and
today
we
have
an
opportunity
to
turn
the
page
and
move
forward
and
start
discussing
issues
which
I
think
are
much
more
relevant
and
important
for
our
city.
We
have
a
busy
fall
ahead
of
us.
D
We've
got
the
budget,
our
final
budget
as
a
council
with
the
transportation
master
plan,
we
have
the
official
plan,
we
have
the
cycling
plan
and
infrastructure
plan.
We've
got
a
lot
on
our
plate,
which
I
believe
are
a
much
greater
interest
to
the
public
than
us
constantly
debating
where
a
gaming
facility
should
be
now,
we've
all
received
hundreds
of
emails
and
petitions
and
have
had
countless
conversations.
We've
had
three
public
meetings
on
this
that
we're
well
attended
levels.
We're
hopeful
said
today's.
A
D
To
move
forward
on
this
issue
and
that's
not
a
bad
thing,
a
diversion
of
opinion
and
and
points
of
view
is
healthy,
but
I'll
be
voting
in
a
manner
consistent
with
the
motion
that
was
unanimously
sent
to
fan
ko
on
July
17th,
and
we
all
recall
from
that.
We
asked
the
province
whether
we
could
have
two
zones.
D
We
base
that
on
the
fairness
principle
of
Toronto
having
two
zones,
and
we
are
much
larger
geographic
area
that
was
relayed
to
us
really
at
the
last
minute
on
Monday
and
we're
told
no
and
the
backup
position
of
the
fallback
position
for
our
council
was
to
go
back
to
the
original
Rideau
Carleton
motion
I'll
also
be
supporting.
Counselor
egg
lies
friendly
amendment,
which
he
made
to
councillor
taylor's
motion
at
fedko,
which
sets
out
a
list
of
public
health
recommendations
for
the
industry
to
consider
that
are
aimed
at
addressing
the
serious
issue,
a
problem
gambling.
D
It's
my
understanding
that
real
cotton
raceways
indicated
they
will
receive
these
recommendations
in
the
constructive
manner
that
they're
being
made
I'm
under
no
illusions
that
the
OLG
is
not
going
to
simply
accept
every
single
one
of
those.
Some
of
them
perhaps
will
see
the
light
of
day
and
and
will
make
the
situation
better
for
those
people
who
have
gambling,
addictions
and
others
may
be
discarded.
Shepley
them
also
means
the
devil.
D
To
let
people
know
that
and
I
believe
there's
been
a
call
for
separation
of
item
number
six,
while
I
am
quite
content
to
sine
or
cosine
letter
with
councillor
Holmes
and
ask
the
province,
who
rightfully
should
be
funding
problem
gambling,
addiction,
research
and
treatment.
I
will
not
be
supporting
a
request
to
ask
the
City
of
Ottawa
for
funds.
This
is
an
important
matter
of
principle
and
I
think
we
should
take
this
seriously
while
I
recognize
there
is
a
need
for
additional
funds.
I
also
recognize
in
our
system
of
government.
D
There
is
a
division
of
responsibilities
and
we
do
not
have
responsibility
to
fund
problem
gambling
in
the
province
of
Ontario.
As
the
former
minister
responsible
for
the
problem
gambling
strategy,
I
would
be
sitting
at
Queen's
Park
feeling
very
happy
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
is
trying
to
fill
one
of
our
voids
at
the
province
and
put
the
province
or
get
the
province
off
the
hook.
This
happens
too
often,
where
we
go
down
the
slippery
slope
and
the
province.
The
federal
government
says
no.
D
We
try
to
come
in
and
act
like
the
heroes
and
we
let
the
province
off
the
hook.
We
should
not
be
doing
that
for
the
simple
reason
that
we
do
not
have
the
mandate
for
problem
gambling.
It
is
the
province
of
Ontario
and
it
is
the
province
of
Ontario
that
receives
the
lion's
share
of
funding
from
lotteries.
Gaming,
casinos
and
slots
over.
Ninety
percent
of
the
proceeds
and
profits
go
back
to
the
province,
not
to
the
municipal
sector.
D
So
for
us
in
a
tough
budget-
and
we
just
started
some
internal
budget
meetings,
it's
going
to
be
a
tough
budget
2014
to
find
an
additional
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
an
area
that
we
do
not
have
responsibility
for
is
going
to
put
a
pressure.
All
other
programs
and
just
to
remind
you
about
15%
of
the
current
city
budget,
which
is
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
million
dollars,
is
being
spent
by
municipal
taxpayers
to
support
social
services,
programs
and
public
health.
D
So
we
are
paying
a
fair
share
of
dollars
and
also
to
remind
you,
the
five
million
dollars
or
so
that
we
receive
from
OLG
goes
into
general
revenues,
which
some
of
those
dollars
in
fact
find
their
way
back
to
public
health.
So
I
respect
dr.
levy
and
councillor
Holmes
and
the
work
that
they've
done
quite
happy
to
put
pressure
both
political
and
administrative
pressure
on
the
province
to
see
that
they
come
forward.
If
they're
going
to
reap
the
benefits
of
additional
money,
they
should
be
putting
additional
money
and
to
help
those
people
with
problem
gaming.
D
So
I
urge
you
not
to
support
item
six,
simply
sending
it
off
to
the
budget.
That
was
the
old
trick
for
many
years
at
councils.
Don't
make
a
tough
decision
today,
put
it
into
the
mix
of
the
budget
and
it'll
get
lost
and
all
the
other
priorities,
and
then
what
happens
to
it
so
I
think
we
should
send
the
signal
now
that
we're
not
interested
in
filling
the
void
of
the
province
of
Ontario.
It
would
be
like
them
asking
us
to
pave
the
417
within
the
boundaries
of
the
City
of
Ottawa.
D
It's
not
our
highway
and
it's
not
our
responsibility.
We
all
belong
the
fact
that
the
174
was
downloaded.
We
like
that
to
be
brought
back
up
because,
for
all
intents
purposes
the
174
is
a
highway.
It's
not
a
regional
road.
It's
a
four-lane
highway
that
serves
the
East
End
of
our
city,
so
I
enclose
I,
encourage
members
of
council
to
put
this
debate
behind
us
by
designating
Rita
Colton
as
the
only
location
for
a
casino.
D
Let
the
OLG
RFP
process
take
its
place
and
we
get
on
to
dealing
with
issues
that
I
believe
are
of
greater
importance
to
the
people
of
our
city.
So
we've
been
asked
as
I
understand
it
and
I
stand
to
be
corrected.
We've
been
asked
to
separate
the
following
item:
number
one,
which
is
the
Rideau
Carleton
motion,
will
be
a
separate
vote
item
number
two:
the
Health
Board
recommendations,
three
four
and
five:
no
one
has
asked
that
they
be
separated
and
six
would
be.
A
separate
vote
is
that
my
understanding
of
the
will
of
Council
okay?
D
A
F
E
D
A
D
D
B
The
border
mr.
Murata
point
were
dealt
with
respect
to
one
of
the
recommendations:
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
to
rule
but
I'd
like
an
opinion
on
the
motion,
whether
it
in
your
opinion,
binds
a
future
council
which
we
know
you,
you
cannot
do
I'm
not
gonna.
Ask
you
to
rule
on
it,
because
I
think
that
people
want
to
vote
on
it,
which
is
fine,
I,
just
wanted
on
the
record.
What
your
opinion
is
on
that
matter.
B
G
I
remember
when
plastico
came
before
Planning
Committee
the
last
time
and
talked
for
a
good
15
minutes
about
the
air
quality
and
how
good
Pascoe's
air
quality
was
and
was
not
interested
in
the
comment
that
the
city
has
no
interest
in
air
quality,
that's
a
provincial
matter
and
not
for
the
city's
jurisdiction.
I
was
interested
in
how
Glasgow
was
dealing
with
the
waste
that
went
to
them
and
then
came
back
to
us
and
how
often
the
PLAs
copilot
was
open
versus
how
often
it
was
closed.
G
I
don't
know
that
anybody
else
on
council
ever
read
those
reports
that
PLAs
Co
sent
to
the
province,
but
having
read
them.
I
realized
that
PLAs
Co
sent
as
much
back
to
us
as
they
received.
Usually
the
PLAs
co-pilot
was
closed.
Not
open
and
I
also
went
back
to
the
original
discussion
that
Glasgow
was
going
to
plasma
fie
residential
waste.
G
Now
the
fact
that
Japan
has
been
20
years
ahead
of
us
in
trying
to
deal
with
waste
and
Northern
Europe
another
20
years
ahead
of
us
and
trying
to
deal
with
waste
and
had
never
been
able
to
plasma
fie
household
waste
because
there's
too
much
water
in
household
waste,
there's
too
much
organic
in
household
way.
So
it's
impossible
to
plasma,
fie
household
waste
does
not
seem
to
interest
this
council
at
all.
So
we
continue
down
this
path.
Extending
agreements
and
listening
to
how
well
PLAs
Co,
is
doing
with
their
air
quality.
G
But
when
we
look
at
the
detailed
evidence
to
the
province
about
how
much
waste
they
deal
with
and
how
successfully
they
deal
with,
that,
council
does
not
seem
to
be
interested.
So
mr.
mayor
I
will
be
once
again
voting
against
an
extension
for
plastic.
Oh
I'm,
sorry
that
the
council
has
spent
so
much
time
on
this.
Luckily,
there's
no
money
involved,
but
certainly
a
good
deal
of
time
and
a
distraction
for
the
department
and
for
council
to
be
dealing
with
the
dream
that
were
going
to
plasma
fie
household
waste,
Thank
You
mr.
mill,
great.
A
A
A
Don't
think
that
you
know
clearly,
if
the
extensions
needed
to
to
raise
the
finances,
that
the
evidence
should
have
been
in
that
the
part
of
the
practice
outcomes
are
there
and
I
don't
see
those
outcomes,
I
do
not
see
the
productivity
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
improving
and
therefore
I,
don't
think
it's
supportable.
Thank
you.
C
Please
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
mr.
mayor
I
get
nervous
when
I
start
agreeing
with
councillor
Holmes
and
I
start
wondering
I
start
wondering
if
I
have
to
go
back
and
reread
my
notes
and
and
the
report
before
us,
but
I
do
think.
I
I
do
think.
Councillor
Holmes
has
hit
a
few
things
square
on
the
head
here,
but
I
do
have
a
question
or
two
to
the
city
manager.
C
At
committee
the
other
day
I
mentioned
I,
said
yeah.
We
can
keep
this
dance
going
and
you've
come
you've
come
back
and
you've
recommended
an
extension
and
the
extension
is
basically
just
in
terms
of
the
financing
but
I'm.
Looking
at
the
details
of
the
contract
that
we
entered
into
his
plastic
or
20-year
contract
and
the
construction
phase
has,
is
that
changing
at
all
with
this
tension,
because
originally
I
think
the
construction
phase
if
they
had
their
financing
in
place
by
now
the
construction
it
had
to
be
in
full
operation
by
2016?
I
F
I
Apologize
I
was
using
a
microphone
if
counsel
chooses
to
extend
the
operation
or
sorry
the
the
date
for
the
meeting,
the
financing
conditions,
which
is
in
front
of
Council
today.
It
does
not
affect
any
other
dates
that
are
stipulated
in
the
contract,
so
that
operation
state
that
being
delayed
the
latest
as
of
March
31st
2016,
does
not
change.
C
I
Mayor,
that's
correct
it's
five
years.
The
five
years
is
the
date
at
which
councilor
the
city
can
look
at
wish
it,
whether
it
wishes
to
reduce
its
commitment-
and
it
looks
back
to
the
previous
three
years
and
it
can
reduce
its
commitment
to
the
greater
amount
of
what
place
go
processed
in
the
previous
year
or
the
average
over
the
previous
three
years.
So
the
performance
applause
go
from
2018
on
goes
into
the
the
assessment
of
what
the
city
could
choose
to
reduce
its
commitment
to
in
2021,
okay,.
C
Well,
it
must
admit:
I
get
very
nervous
when,
even
though
we
know
we
keep
saying
it
doesn't
cost
us
anything,
there
are
costs
involved.
There
cost
whether
it's
your
time,
whether
it's
staff
time
whether
it's
our
reputation,
that's
on
the
and
missed
opportunities
elsewhere,
and
there
are
other
technologies
out
there
that
are
being
implemented
elsewhere,
and
that
seem
to
be
ahead
of
the
game
here.
C
The
I
gotta
ask
one
other
question,
though
I
I
mean
I
have
a
lot
of
respect,
how
you
approach
things
as
a
city,
manager
and
and
I
think
how
you
go
through
information
and
how
you
give
it
back
to
us
so
that
we
have
a
better
understanding
now,
I'm
sure
my
understanding
is
that
you've
been
the
point
man
in
the
dealings
with
mr.
Brydon
on
this.
Is
that
correct?
Has
it
been
basically
the
two
of
you
working
forward
because
I
think
you're
being
very
generous
here
in
terms
of
agreeing
or
recommending
an
extension.
I
C
I
C
I
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
mayor
I
was
just
speaking
to
the
clerk
about
to
how
this
motion
is
tied
and
there
seems
to
be
a
couple
of
things
and
forgive
me
I
kind
of
make
fedko
that
day,
so
I
couldn't
speak
to
certain
points
within
it.
So
please
bear
with
I
believe
councillor
Moffat
had
some
kind
of
friendly
amendment
or
something
tied
with
in
this
motion
is
that
is
that
correct.
H
We
should
be
looking
for
alternatives
now
as
a
fallback
which,
which
I'll
be
supporting
Scott's
family
amendment
portion
of
the
motion,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
extension,
I
do
have
similar
concerns
and-
and
you
stole
all
the
words
right
out
of
my
mouth,
Rainer
is
reputational
risk
I
go
to
a
lot
of
get.
You
know
we
just
had
a
mole
in
Ottawa.
We've
had
a
seminar
one
way,
I
get
constant
questions
from
other
council
colleagues
across
the
country
asking
hey.
We
we
saw
that
demo,
but
by
the
by
the
plas
core
group.
H
Is
it
working
well,
I,
don't
know
we're
not
there
yet,
and
I
really
hope
that
it
does
work
in
the
end.
Prove
me
wrong.
I
really
hope
it
works.
It'll,
be
a
magic
bullet
for
years
to
come.
I
just
think
the
window
is
too
short,
I
think
it's
still
a
good
decade
away
from
this
being
successful
and
working
in
a
full
environment.
The
size
of
a
city
like
Ottawa
so
I'll
be
voting
against
the
extension,
but
voting
in
support
of
councilor
Moffitt's
amendment
to
this
motion.
Thank
you.
B
You
some
questions
along
similar
lines
to
those
just
post
again,
my
apologies
I'm,
a
member
of
Environment
Committee
that
came
down
that
day
and
I
understand.
There
was
some
discussion
about
this,
but
at
risk
of
reputation
or
for
all
the
others
who
weren't
there.
Yes,
I
have
a
similar
concern
that
it's
really
the
loss
to
the
city
might
be
in
time
or
other
lost
opportunities
should
class
goes
facility,
never
pan
out
either
to
the
full
extent,
I
hope
for
or
not
at
all,
and
that
is
other
technologies
that
we
have
not
explored.
B
We
have
not
stayed
on
top
of
and
we'd
be
effectively
starting
at
zero.
Should
the
day
come
where
we
say:
that's
it,
no
more
extensions
or
it's
not
working,
even
if
it
was
built.
What
are
we
doing
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
monitor
best
available
technologies
out
there
and
to
be
comparing
that
against
Alaska's
process?
I,
understand
we're
in
a
contract
and
we're
not
entering
into
negotiations
or
other
people
or
anything
close
to
that,
but
really
following
best
available
technologies,
making
sure
that
we're
not
missing
something
that
was
even
better
out
there.
B
I
I
Going
now
so
at
the
Environment
Committee
meeting,
this
was
a
matter
of
discussion.
Council
you're
correct
and
it
stops
position.
I
think
I
spoke
to
it
at
the
committee
that
we're
unaware
of
any
technology
similar
to
classic.
Oh,
that
would
be
able
to
have
the
same
results
from
an
economic
and
environmental
perspective.
I
If
it
is
successful
in
terms
of
processing
the
city's
residual
waste
there,
any
closer
to
successful
commercialization
than
POSCO
is
at
the
moment
we
talked
a
bit
at
committee
about
enter
kam
and
Edmonton
and
how
that
is
similar
to,
but
different,
also,
some
significant
differences
from
Glasgow
in
terms
of
the
the
feedstock
that
Edmonton
is
proposing
to
to
have
gasified
with
that
technology.
What
came
out
of
that
discussion
was
the
amendment
to
the
the
report
recommendation
that's
in
front
of
Council
today.
I
There
is
also
in
addition
to
this
through
the
discussion,
Environment,
Committee
and
direction
that
was
given
by
the
chair
to
staff
that
are
on
an
annual
basis.
Staff
will
provide
a
report.
I
remember
a
memo
to
Council
that
presents
an
overview
of
what
is
happening
in
terms
of
similar
or
alternate
technologies,
and
then,
of
course,
you
have
them
the
amended
motion
in
front
of
you.
They
sorry
the
report.
B
I
A
A
A
A
I
A
The
taking
actions
to
find
other
measures
and
I
think
it's
a
clear
message
from
the
motion
to
Glasgow
and
mr.
Biden
that
you
know
we
expect
some
action
by
the
end
of
2014
and
and
I
think
it's
something
that
it
would
be
a
mistake
at
this
point
to
just
vote
no
and
start
from
scratch.
Thank
You,
mr.
mayor.
J
You
mr.
mayor
well
then
been
struggling
with
this
a
little
bit
because
I
think
the
the
hope
or
the
dream
of
PLAs
Co
technology
has
been
one
that
everyone
was
you
know
was
encouraged
by
and
and
hopes
that
here
in
Ottawa,
a
local
company
or
that
the
roots
started
locally
anyway,
would
succeed
and,
as
time
has
gone
by,
and
they
have
been
unable
to
string
a
number
of
days
together,
where
the
technology's
really
worked
and
appeared
to
be
struggling
to
put
the
dollars
and
cents
the
funding
at
venture
capital
in
place
to
move
forward.
J
It
has
you
know,
given
us
cars,
to
reflect
and
wonder
if
you
know
we
shouldn't
have
all
of
our
eggs
in
one
basket.
My
answer
to
that
would
be
we
really
shouldn't.
We
should
be
continuing
the
work
to
sure
that
we're
looking
at
other
possibilities
and
with
the
thought
nor
mind
that
PLAs
goal
may
never
work
and
I
think
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
continue
down
that
path.
But
having
said
that,
the
motion
today
is,
as
mr.
Kirkpatrick
correctly
pointed
out,
really
doesn't
change
the
date
of
2016
when
the
operations
would
go
live.
J
What
it
really
does
is
say
we
recognize
it
that
you're
having
some
issues
putting
the
venture
capital
in
place
to
move
forward
with
this,
and
we
will
agree
to
continue
our
obligations
under
the
contract,
to
give
you
more
time
to
put
that
money
together,
and
some
of
my
colleagues
have
suggested,
there's
some
reputational
risk
to
the
city.
Perhaps
that's
true
I
think
the
broader
reputational
risk
is
really
borne
by
PLAs
Co
itself
and
and
the
funders
I
think
for
us.
Our
risk
is
actually
quite
low.
J
We're
trying
to
support
a
local
company
with
local
roots
that
employees
I,
think
177
people
in
Ottawa
and
that
if
it
did
work,
the
contract
that
we
have
signed
with
them
would
be
a
beneficial
one
to
the
city,
so
I
think
by
and
large
there's
very
little
risk
to
the
city
other
than
if
it
doesn't
work.
But
then,
if
it
doesn't
work,
we
tried
to
help
local
company.
J
So
you
know
I
I,
don't
think
that
that's
a
bad
story
I
think
it's
it's
good
to
help
our
local
business
trying
to
succeed
in
a
technology
that
would
be
beneficial.
So
my
feeling
is,
we
don't
lose
a
lot
by
extending
this
contract
and
giving
them
more
time.
I.
Don't
think
it
would
I
think
the
more
reputational
damage
for
this
council
would
be
if
we
killed
that
contract,
which
ended
the
dream
of
Glasgow
I.
Don't
think
we
would
want
to
be
the
ones
to
do
that.
I
think
the
venture
capitalists
can
do
that.
J
F
Please
Thank
You
Charis
wanted
to
speak
briefly
to
my
my
motion
that
was
approved
at
committee.
The
intent
here
is
I
I'd
like
to
believe
and
I
think
Council
and
the
City
of
Ottawa.
The
residents
here
would
like
to
believe
that
that
PLAs
Co
will
work
and
in
the
end
it
will
be
the
best
solution
for
our
waste.
Financially,
it's
clearly
the
best
solution.
F
If
it
doesn't
work
because
this
process
takes
long,
you
can't
cut
yourself
to
think
that
it
doesn't.
It's
been
eight
years.
The
inner
chem,
the
example
in
evidence
and
manner
can
was
founded
in
2000.
Their
bio
facility
opened
2003.
They
have
a
deal
with
with
Edmonton.
That
is
fully
the
finances
are
fully
borne
by
by
the
taxpayers
of
Edmonton
and
they
are
yet
fully
operational.
They
hope
to
be
fully
operational
by
the
end
this
year.
So
that's
13
years
from
from
concept
to
hopefully
fully
operational,
but
they're,
not
there.
F
Yet
there's
another
company
in
the
States
that
is
constructing
facility
in
in
Vero
Beach
Florida,
and
it
too
has
been
8
to
10
years
in
the
process.
Sue
st.
Marie
is
trying
to
work
with
a
company
out
of
southern
share
of
co2
elementa.
They
are
not
you
there,
yet
it's
actually
there
I
remember
reading
a
newspaper
article
on
it's.
There
are
some
skeptics
on
their
council
about
elements.
F
F
He
he
believes
that
he
can
get
things
done
before
the
end
of
2014
and
I
really
hope
that
he's
right,
because
if
it
works,
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
cities
and
the
best
interests
of
how
we
divert
our
waste
and
it's
in
the
message
to
the
residents
for
a
whole
host
of
reasons.
So
I'm
pleased
that
the
committee
supported
this
motion.
It
does
give
us
a
way
forward
because
it
does
take
time.
F
It
does
take
time
to
find
another
solution
if
Bosco
doesn't
work
and
even
though
it'll
be
twenty
years
time
either
we
have
left
Charlotte
right
ten
years
to
get
a
landfill,
didn't
work
and
they
had
to
live
somewhere
else.
You
know
you
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
a
process
right
up
until
the
points
that
your
landfill
is
gonna
close
and
then
you're
out
of
luck.
So
you
want
to
give
yourself
enough
time
to
go
through
a
process
to
examine
all
options
and
then
decide
what's
best
for
the
future.
E
You
mr.
mayor
I
think
that
councillor
Moffat
is
especially
very
clearly
and
will
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
support
moving
forward
because
they
have
already
sent
considerable
amount
of
money
on
this
and
I
will
be
supporting
his
additional
motion,
because
I
think
getting
more
information
is
always
valid.
Thank
you.
D
E
F
H
D
A
D
D
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
mr.
mayor
this
one,
this
sort
of
coming
about
and
I
guess
a
roundabout
way
and
and
I
do
support
the
report
before
it's
a
recommendation
but
I'm
looking
for
some
clarity
or
or
something
a
little
stronger
with
there's
a
reference
to
these
staff.
The
current
staff
who
are
employed
at
at
Pineview
and
they
work
for
the
the
board
of
Pineview,
which
some
of
us
councillors
sit
on
and
a
number
civilians
sit
on.
C
C
I'm
prepared
to
put
a
motion
forward
that
that
the
RFP
should
include
some
sort
of
successor
rights,
or
even
some
priority
for
staff
coming
into
the
city,
and
that
may
take
some
negotiations
with
QP,
because
I
think
that
would
be
the
most
relevant
union.
That's,
though,
that
would
come
into
play
here
so
I'm,
just
I'm
asking
a
question
and
I
and
I
could
move
a
motion
depending
on
what
the
answers.
B
Mr.
mayor,
the
report
makes
a
light
reference
to
some
of
the
contractual
obligations
between
the
board
and
its
employees
recommendation.
Two
of
this
report
talks
about
the
city,
developing
a
position
that
we
will
then
negotiate
with
the
with
the
NCC
in
terms
of
our
exit
from
this
lease.
Those
negotiations
will
address
a
whole
variety
of
current
obligations
that
the
board,
and,
in
some
cases
the
city,
have
things
like
leases
contracts,
service
agreements
and,
of
course,
relationships
with
employees.
So
our
intent,
this
fall.
If
council
approves.
B
This
report
is
to
work
with
the
board
to
document
and
understand
those
and
then
develop
a
position
that
we
can
negotiate
with
the
NCC
towards
a
final
agreement
to
exit
our
lease
included
in
that
ism
is
an
understanding
of
both
the
contractual
and
the
statutory
requirements
to
address
the
employees
needs
and
then
once
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
those
that
will
form
part
of
now.
That
isn't
a
specific
guarantee
at
this
point
that
we
we'll
look
at
successor,
rights
or
those
things,
because
we
will
literally
understand
those
at
this
point
in
terms
of
obligations.
C
But
in
fairness
to
the
employees
and
and
they've
been
hanging
by
a
shoestring
or
in
limbo
for
a
number
of
years,
because
of
all
the
chatter
that's
been
going
on
in
the
you
know,
the
repeated
coverage
and
the
the
murmurs
out
there.
They
continue
to
hang
on
a
shoestring
I
think
they
need
some
assurance
that
and
and
again
it
it
could
be
an
HR
decision
there
are.
C
There
are
people
there,
for
instance,
who
who
work
with
the
green
keeper,
who
would
be
quite
well
suited
to
be
in
the
working
for
our
parks
or
whatever
and
and
I'm
trying
to
find
out
a
way
or
figure
out
a
way.
How
do
we
accommodate
that
to
give
them?
Some
reassurance
that
they're
not
gonna,
be
totally
abandoned.
When
you
talk
about
the
the
contractual
and
statutory
obligations
that
simply
means
you're,
gonna
pay
them
X
number
of
weeks
for
service
and
and
give
them
a
handshake
and
they're
gone
I.
C
Think
some
of
them
who've
been
with
the
the
organization
for
quite
a
while
deserve
a
little
more
than
that
and
maybe
to
the
city
manager,
and
you
see
some
way
of
being
able
to
accommodate
and
they
may
not
want
to
come
to
the
city.
But
when
there
are
openings
in
the
city
that
they
can
at
least
apply
for
them
and
have
some
recognition
of
their
service
for
an
art
with
an
arm's-length
organization,
a
city,
arms-length
organization,
mayor.
I
I
certainly
understand
the
sentiment
of
what
councilor
blows
is
describing.
What
I
would
recommend
is
we've
heard
we
hear
you
and,
as
I
think
general
manager
Xinyi
has
indicated.
There
are
steps
in
this
process.
I,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
I
couldn't
and
I
wouldn't
commit
to
anything
from
a
labor
relations.
Respect
at
this
point
in
time,
I
know.
B
C
But
in
the
interim,
as
mr.
Shen
you
mentioned,
the
the
board
involvement
I
think
you
know,
the
board
itself
probably
has
an
interest
in
in
recognizing
our
obligations
to
the
employees
and
wanting
to
build
something
into
the
negotiations
with
the
NCC
or
whatever
RFP
they
put
out
there.
That
recognizes
there
are
employees
and
how
they
would
be,
how
they
could
be
accommodated
and,
and
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
saying
that
is
I
mean
they're.
C
C
H
Mayor
I'll
just
be
very
brief,
even
though
Pineview
the
course
itself
is
in
councilor
blows
as
warden
reminds
me
about
that,
all
the
time,
a
lot
of
the
people
that
to
make
use,
but,
more
importantly,
there
are
from
around
that
Pineview
area
and
our
residents
of
my
ward.
So
again,
I,
don't
think
there's
not
going
to
be
put
in
writing
here,
but
if
I
can
be
kept,
I
think
counsel
or
myself
are
probably
the
most
affected
from
an
employment
point
of
view
if
we
can
be
kept
in
the
conversation.
D
G
At
the
Ottawa
Board
of
Health
Report
nine,
the
report
from
city
clerk
and
solicitor
entitled
status,
update
councillor
inquiries,
emotions
for
the
period
ending
23rd
of
August
2013
community
and
Protective
Services
report,
25
Environment
Committee
report,
24
Finance
and
Economic
Development,
Report
35
and
planning
committee
report.
53
a
and
54
B
be
received
and
adopted
as
amended
Carrie.
J
Thanks
mr.
mayor
I
have
two
motions
for
cash
in
lieu
of
parking.
We've
been
finding
in
the
kitchen
City
community
that
it's
more
than
official
to
turn
the
money
that
would
have
gone
into
the
parking
garage
into
a
parking
garage
or
other
parking
facilities,
which
probably
will
never
happen
in
kitchens
appease
lifetime
into.
J
A
D
D
Okay,
so
the
motion
is
before
you
on
the
screen
carried
and
the
second
motion.
If
we
can
put
that
on
the
screen
with
the
slight
change,
also
same
principle,
I
believe
councilor
Hollett
seconded
by
Councillor
flurry
add
up
day.
Carry
now
see,
motions
requiring
suspension
of
the
rules
of
procedure.
Motion
exogenous,
sponsored
irregular
posted
zero.
H
I
think
you
mister
mayor
or
dispense
with
the,
whereas
is
so
basically
we're
looking
for
exemption
of
on
the
noise
bylaw.
So
I'll
just
ask
it
to
therefore
be
resolved,
we're
just
looking
for
extension
until
December
31st
2013.
So
we
can
get
a
lot
of
the
work
done
overnight
and
prevent
the
highway
from
being
backed
up
anymore
than
it
has
to
be.
D
G
D
It's
the
will
of
Council
I,
know
staff
with
I
think
this
was
the
reason
we're
doing.
Notice
of
motion
is
because
councillor
Hume
raised
a
concern
about
a
lack
of
notice
and
staff.
Do
have
the
authority
in
conjunction
with
the
particular
ward
councillor,
to
deal
with
the
issue,
and
then
this
gives
a
global
blanket
approval
for
the
end
of
December
of
this
year.
So
I,
don't
think,
there's
consensus
to
waive
the
rules,
but
we
do
have
a
way
of
dealing
with
the
immediate
issues
yeah,
but
my
understanding
is
mr.
Craig
there's
not
you're.
D
B
Mr.
mayor,
the
federal
government
recently
announced
funding
through
Western
economic
diversification
Canada
for
the
princess
operation
entrepreneur
program.
The
program
provides
military
personnel
with
business
training,
to
develop
new
skills
and
assist
in
their
transition
into
civilian
workforce
and
entrepreneurial
endeavors.
Should
the
City
of
Ottawa
consider
replicating
this
program
as
part
of
an
investor's
current
entrepreneurial
support
services
to
assist
former
military
personnel
in
the
city?
Should
the
City
of
Ottawa
looking
to
tailoring
our
marketing
of
current
entrepreneurial
programs
services
to
attract
members
of
the
city's
large
military
population
who
have
great
entrepreneurial
potential.