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From YouTube: Ottawa Police Services Board – October 24, 2016
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A
A
A
Item
number
two
is
a
report
we
received.
We
receive
briefing
technical
briefing
this
morning
at
11
o'clock
and
then
at
2
o'clock.
It
was
open
to
the
media
and
the
public.
This
is
this
is
a
very
important
work
has
been
done.
It's
been
taken
a
few
years,
but
we
are
here
in
many
thanks
to
the
research
team
from
York
University
and
they
are
with
us
tonight,
dr.
Lauren
Foster
and
dr.
les
Jacobs
and
dr.
Shaheen
asked
me
from
the
Human
Rights
Commissioner
here
as
well.
A
I
know
we
had
a
lot
of
question
and
answer
early
most
of
the
day
today
in
this
audience,
but
this
report,
if
we
receive
it
today,
the
next
public
portion
of
this,
would
be
on
November
24th
and
that
will
be
open
to
our
community
partner
and
the
professors
also
be
am
honest
at
the
time
to
answer
any
question
and
go
through
the
information.
If
is
no
question
to
today,
to
the
panel
I
like
to
ask
them
to
stand
up
and
take
a
bow.
Thank
you
very
much
folks
for
doing
a
good
job
for
us.
A
And
thanks
to
to
our
staff,
the
chief
chief,
the
chief,
is
the
leading
and
this
one
and
also
a
deputy
chief
Kili,
pat
flanagan
and
lori,
something
for
ya,
really
been
with
us
all
day
and
go
through
the
process
step-by-step.
So
today,
working
FEMA
and
Ottawa.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
the
item
is
the
item
received.
I
will
have
any
question
you
save.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
November
24th
and
will
be
advertising
this
meeting.
As
we
get
closer
item
number
three.
A
Is
the
budget
direction
and
timetable
that
the
Iowa
Police
Service
would
direct
staff
to
prepare
that
2017
to
have
operating
and
capital
budget
based
on
two
percent
tax
increase
and
estimate
1.3
increase
in
taxes
resulting
from
growth
in
assessment?
Bathe?
Item
number
two
approved
the
2017
budget
review
and
approval
timetable
on
item
number.
Three.
Is
the
item?
K?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
four
and
we
do
have
a
presentation
by
our
friends
and
colleague
from
the
National
Capital
Area
Crimestoppers,
who
will
hold
item
number
four
item.
A
Number
five
appointment
of
special
constable
Ottawa
Police
Service
is
the
item.
Okay
item
number:
six
is
appointment
of
special
constable
Carleton
University.
Okay
item
number:
seven
is
the
public
consultation
policy
annual
report
that
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
Board
received?
This
report
for
information,
see
item
number
8
financial
status
report
third
quarter
of
2016
that
the
Auto
Police
Service
received
this
report
for
information.
Thank
you
item
number
nine.
A
performance
report
third
quarter,
2016
the
Chiefs
report
that
the
Auto
Police
Service
Board,
received
this
report
for
information.
A
A
So
the
item
carry
and
received
and
chief
as
as
I
advise
within
the
last
board
meeting,
if
it's
possible,
when
we
have
a
new
promotion,
if
you
can
bring
them
to
the
board
and
introduce
that
people,
who's
been
promoted,
yeah
I'm
talking
about
the
scene
or
lover,
so
you
know,
and
so
because
sometimes
they
get
their
promotion
and
the
workforce
report
doesn't
get
here
until
quarterly.
So
we
like
to
meet
them
earlier.
If
it's
possible.
B
A
Item
number
11
complaint
report-
part
5,
police
or
sport
at
third
quarter,
start
to
receive
their
item.
12
legal
service
reporter
core
2016-
they
are
all
police,
develop,
reserve
squad,
received
this
report
for
information
item
13,
broad
monitoring,
a
requirement
status
report.
Third
quarter
item
received
item
14
response
to
inquiry,
1
16-0,
three
auto
a
police
service
accommodation
that
helped
get
called
by
member
journey
item
number
15
is
inquiry
about
the
marijuana
dispensary
in
Ottawa
and
I
believe
we
have
a
public
public.
A
Speaking
on
this
item,
so
we'll
hold
item
15
item
16
report
on
siu
investigation,
the
ROP
Service
Board,
received
this
report
for
information
item
17
outstanding
broad
inquires
in
motion.
October
2016
is
the
item
received
item
18.
We
have
letters
of
commendation.
The
other
Police
Service
Board
received
this
report
for
information.
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
as
you
mentioned,
this
was
an
important
day
for
the
our
police
service
in
our
community.
Presenting
the
the
traffic
stopper
is
that
a
collection
project
that
is
a
it's
a
significant
milestone
for
resource
and
the
community
and
its
its
Brown
groundbreaking
research,
which
couldn't
have
happened
without
the
professionalism,
the
dedication
of
the
members
of
the
Auto
Police
Service
and
the
research
team,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
them
again
for
the
work
that
they've
done.
B
I
want
to
thank
our
investigators
and
the
many
officers
who
work
to
identify
then
arrest
the
suspect
in
a
homicide.
Earlier
Saturday
morning,
patrol
officers,
tactical
officers
and
canine
were
all
dispatched.
An
individual
is
in
custody
and
charges
will
be
laid
in
the
matter
talk
about
a
k-9
track.
Only
this
week
our
officers
responded
to
a
robbery
at
a
quickie
on
Dell
Street.
Two
masked
men
walked
into
the
store
about
5:00
a.m.
while
another
masked
man,
man,
we're
outside
the
store.
B
The
men
brandished
a
crowbar
threatened
the
clerk
and
then
grabbed
cigarettes
before
fleeing
canine
Freegal
and
his
handler
across
well.
Jamie
Desormeaux
were
soon
on
scene,
supported
by
Cosmo,
my
kegels
and
shebeen
Tucker.
They
began
a
try,
locating
the
suspects
and
the
stolen
cigarettes
and
an
address
on
cabbage
Street.
All
three
individuals
were
arrested
and
are
now
before
the
courts.
B
Since
last
February
Malcolm
Edwards
was
wanted
by
the
Niagara
Regional
Police
Service
on
a
Canada
wide
warrant
for
numerous
offenses,
including
three
counts
of
attempted
murder,
on
October,
8th,
18th
and
Yago
requested
help
from
our
guns
against
unit
and
the
22
year
old
was
arrested
by
US
service
within
8
hours.
I
want
to
recognize
the
heroic
efforts
of
constable
Matt
Jones
and
Sergeant
Andrew
peacock
on
October
5th.
B
They
were
first
on
scene
at
an
apartment
fire
on
hudiburg
Avenue
and
saw
files
well
coming
from
a
sixth
floor
apartment
window
on
wooden
burg,
Avenue,
the
two
officers
immediately
entered
the
building
to
provide
assistance
and
alerted
the
residents.
When
they
reached
the
fifth
floor.
They
found
residents
attempting
to
eggs
of
the
building
through
heavy
smoke
conditions,
working
indeed
in
a
dangerous
conditions.
The
two
wrists
home,
while
ensuring
that
all
residents
were
safely
evacuated
from
their
province
and
from
the
hallway,
we're
all
proud
of
their
actions.
B
Many
people
contributed
to
the
development
of
this
Center
I
want
to
thank
deputy
chief
Jill
Skinner
inspector
Murray,
Noel's
retro,
Randy
Meyer
and
Sergeant
Pia
Tremblay
for
their
work.
Pulling
this
together.
Data
analysis
to
support
Parata
problem-solving
activities
will
also
be
directed
through
the
ops.
Awk
it'll
have
access
to
key
information
to
assist
officers,
whether
they
are
enroute
to
call
on
scene
or
the
early
stages
of
an
investigation.
B
Depending
on
the
incidence
operations,
center
personnel
will
be
able
to
direct
online
resources
and
specialized
or
support
units
where
they
are
needed
across
the
city,
and
this
is
the
way
one
of
the
key
ways
that
we
are
redesigning
our
service
delivery
model
to
make
sure
that
we
are
deploying
the
right
resources,
the
right
time
to
deal
with
the
ever-changing
complexities
that
were
feeling
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
So
congratulations
to
to
the
team.
That's
my
report.
Mr.
subject
to
questions.
Thank.
A
B
A
Much
chief
and
any
question
from
our
call
to
the
chief
on
the
Chiefs
report
to
see
thank
you
I
feel
number
four.
We
have
the
National
Capital
Area
Crimestoppers
semi-annual
update
and
we
do
have
a
presentation
from
Robert
McMullen.
The
president
of
national
cap
is
also
a
church
or
our
teacher
Richard
serve.
We
can
call
you
and
sorry
you.
C
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
thank
you,
members
of
The
Warden
Service,
for
inviting
us
to
participate
and
to
share
some
of
our
successes
with
you.
As
you
know,
we've
given
a
report
but
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
few
things.
You
know
Crimestoppers
over
the
years
has
really
developed
and
grown
in
this
community.
C
One
of
the
challenges
we
have
and
we've
spoken
about
it
in
the
past
is
that
we
can't
share
the
successes
specifically
around
the
items
that
were
able
to
contribute
to
a
safer
city
and
a
better
environment
for
the
citizens
here.
So
we
do
share
our
statistics,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
that
so
far
in
2016
it's
been
a
impressive
year.
C
September
we
received
499
tips
anonymously
for
the
public,
which
was
one
of
the
largest
tips
that
we've
ever
received,
and
this
is
trending
such
that
we're
going
to
be
over
4,000
tips
from
the
public
in
2016,
which
is
tremendous,
but,
more
importantly,
it's
what
those
tips
turn
into
in
terms
of
the
successful
outcomes
that
for
law
enforcement.
So
so
far
this
year
we've
had
tips
of
the
resulted
of
42
arrests.
C
35
criminal
case
has
been
cleared,
159
criminal
charges,
263
thousand
dollars
worth
of
narcotics
being
seized
and
over
ninety
five
thousand
and
property
recovered,
and
these
are
positive
things
for
individual
members
of
our
community
and
certainly
for
the
community
at
large,
and
so
it's
been
great.
We've
also
contributed
to
one
firearm
so
far
this
year
being
taken
off
the
streets
and
obviously
there's
a
huge
impact
to
community
safety.
With
regards
to
items
like
that,
so
great
results
I
wish.
C
We
could
share
more
of
this
as
for
outcomes,
because
I
think
that
would
help
to
connect
us
better
with
the
community
and
certainly
with
the
the
media
and
other
stakeholders.
But
I
can
tell
you
the
successful
outcomes.
The
Crimestoppers
tips
contribute
is
substantial,
in
many
cases,
its
tips
that
not
only
help
identify
suspects
and
seize
property
and
narcotics,
but
also
aid
in
the
prevention
of
crime
and
serious
incidents,
as
were
started
to
see
more
and
more
of
as
well.
The.
C
Since
my
last
presentation,
we've
held
our
annual
general
meeting
in
June
and
pleased
to
announce
that
we
have
a
new
vice-president,
Eric
super
has
joined
us.
It's
been
on
the
board
for
quite
some
time
and
we
have
a
new
secretary
and
Steven
mares,
also
a
member
of
our
board
for
quite
some
time.
Sharon
Evers
was
reappointed
as
treasurer
and
I
was
re-elected
as
president
for
another
three-year
term.
So
I'm
pleased
with
that,
and
it's
a
real
privilege
and
honor
to
lead
this
organization
and
let
us
continue
to
move
forward.
C
So
it's
it's
it's
through
the
partnerships
and
relationships
that
we've
been
able
to
build,
including
this
and
certainly
with
our
Police
Service
partners
as
well.
Do
you
is
also
a
chance
for
us
to
take
part
in
the
Ontario
Association
of
Crimestoppers
and
your
conference
held
in
Sudbury
sergeant
Anna
myself
around
two
of
our
youth
volunteers
and
allowed
them
to
participate?
C
You
know
last
year
we
had
tremendous
success
with
our
tips
and
we
believe
I
believe
that
that
has
a
direct
result
on
the
community
engage
with
the
were
able
to
do
so,
whether
it's
you
know
being
that
at
a
Loblaws
in
valet
or
gloucester
for
a
system,
food
bank
initiatives,
whether
it's
me
and
police
week,
activities
that
we
participate
in
across
the
city.
All
of
those
things
contribute
to
a
success.
You
know
we've
been
to
many
community
safety
events,
barbecues
community
housing
events.
C
All
of
these
things
contribute
to
connections
and
stronger
engagement
and
connection
with
the
community,
and
that's
really
important
in
our
belief,
anyways.
We
also
contributed
as
some
time
and
energy
at
the
nack
food
cup
Meldrum
Sanatana,
which
was
a
great
opportunity
to
connect
with
the
community,
specifically
in
the
Senate,
an
area
that
was
the
first
time
we
participated
in
that
and
welcomed
by
cats.
Our
MPP,
the
astronaut
Kenai,
was
a
a
fun
event.
We
engaged
some
assistance
of
the
auto-pay
CIP
students
that
enjoyed
participating
with
us
as
well,
so
any
opportunity
like
that
is
worthwhile.
C
She
was
able
to
connect
with
Walmart
Canada
and
secured
a
donation
of
over
six
thousand
dollars
in
pajamas
for
Christmas
Henson
and
the
Food
Bank
and
I
thought
that
was
just
such
a
great
way.
One
to
connect
young
people
in
the
business
community,
but
also
to
have
a
positive
impact
so
well
done
with
with
her
the
Crime
Stoppers
program
is
busy
and
active
sergeant.
Dan
and
volunteers
are
going
to
be
out
helping
the
big
brothers
and
sisters
that
they're
hosting
a
mission
for
grade
10
students,
this
Wednesday
and
Thursday.
C
Those
types
of
engagements
are
really
important
for
communities
and
associations
and
organizations
to
do,
and,
as
you
know,
we've
all
said
before-
partnerships
relationships
and
collaboration
is
a
key.
The
more
you
can
do,
those
things
that
better
off
we
are
together
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that's
really
important.
You
know,
anyway,
this
year
we
also
took
an
opportunity
to
connect
with
our
friends
at
the
Ottawa,
Fire,
Service
and
so
partnered
with
them
specifically
around
the
crime
of
arson,
and
so
they
put
our
deck
goes
on.
C
There
are
some
investigative
vehicles
and
those
are
really
important
steps
to
do
to
engage.
We
can't
do
that
they
funding
funding
is
obviously
important.
As
you
guys
know,
the
Crimestoppers
motto
is
not
to
get
direct
taxpayer
support.
We
do
things
with
funding
this.
Past
year
we
held
our
annual
golf
tournament
raised
over
$15,000
for
the
program,
and
we
continue
to
solicit
funds
from
not
only
that
public,
the
business
groups
and
community
organizations
as
well.
C
Change
is
sometimes
difficult
and
personally
I
believe
you
have
to
embrace
change
and
you
have
to
seize
those
opportunities
to
advance,
and
this
year
remarks
are
July
plans.
Final
term,
with
the
Crime
Stoppers
program
and
I
can
tell
you
that
over
the
last
four
years,
sergeant
Wong
has
provided
unimaginable,
support,
leadership
and
dedication
to
the
program
and
he's
a
great
asset
as
I'm
sure
our
friends
at
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
know.
But
you
guys
should
know
that
he's
a
strong
contributor
and
a
great
leader
for
this
organization,
and
certainly
for
Crimestoppers.
C
A
D
And
actually
I
didn't
have
a
question.
I
just
wanted
to
say,
as
somebody
that's
been
here
for
quite
a
while,
what
an
amazing
job
I
think
you've
done,
because
crime
prevention
had
and
and
and
what
you
do
had
taken
very
much.
A
backseat
I
think
it
was
a
struggle
and
you
came
on
with
enthusiasm
I'm,
not
surprised
that
they
voted
to
keep
you
on
the
island
for
another
three
years
and
put
no
from
my
perspective,
I
think
we're
all
very
happy
that
you
have
so
hope
we
can
help
out
more
as
you
need
us
appreciate,.
E
I,
thank
you.
Mr.
chair
I
also
wanted
to
echo
councillor
Harder's
comments
and
specifically
around
the
supports
you
guys
have
provided
when
it
comes
to
Jasmine
Crescent.
As
you
know,
we
still
meet
monthly.
You
guys
participate
in
that
and
it
means
the
world
to
my
community.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank.
B
Congratulations:
I
too,
have
a
Police,
Service
I'm
glad
to
see
us
stick
around
another
three
years.
Your
leadership
has
really
helped
Crimestoppers,
maintain
its
position
and
grow
its
position,
the
important
role
it
plays
in
our
community
keeping
Ottawa
safe.
We
talked
about
you
know.
The
police
service
can't
do
this
alone
and
Crimestoppers
is
one
of
those
key
partners
out
there
rather
physically
at
events
you're
on
social
media,
yeah,
you're
everywhere.
So
it's
great
to
see
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
work
that
our
it
was
done
as
well.
B
D
E
E
And
so,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
report.
I
asked
for
it
back
I
believe
it
was
at
the
end
of
March,
for
this
report
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
in
there.
It
really
explains
why
accommodation
is
the
way
it
is
and
what
factors
are
involved.
I
still
have
a
couple
of
questions
related
to
this.
E
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
numbers
that
I
see
there
originally
when
the
numbers
came
out,
I
believe
the
numbers
were
were
given
a
number
about
160
out
of
1,400,
but
as
the
report
was
developed
now
it's
actually
out
of
thirteen
hundred
and
forty.
So
it's
a
little
closer
to
twelve
percent
of
our
workforce
is
on
accommodation
and
I.
Understand
that
there's
reasons
in
certain
areas.
Why
that's
the
case
as
I?
E
Look
across
the
country
and
I've
spoken
to
two
other
departments,
I'm
sure
we
can
find
examples
very
easily
of
where
other
departments
may
be
at
the
same
level
or
higher,
but
I
found
a
drastic
number
that
are
much
lower,
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
we
feel
this
is
indicative
of
a
morale
issue
was
in
our
department?
It's
just
something
that
we
should
be
concerned.
B
No,
it's
it's
hard
to
do
to
compare
apples
to
apples
and
in
this,
in
this
type
of
collection
of
data,
because
police
sources,
don't
all
look
gathered,
the
same
data.
The
same
way,
it's
all
turnover,
as
with
respect
to
the
data
and
the
numbers
you're
talking
about
the
Director
General
Frazier
and
superintendent
Bell
from
the
report.
F
F
Other
services
may
not
record
an
accommodation
like
that.
We
may
record
that,
if
someone
has-
and
you
see
that
in
the
definitions
that
there,
if
they
have
overhead
lights,
that
create
migraine
headaches
for
them,
that
will
record
that
as
an
accommodation
and
when
they
switch
rules
which
happens
about
70%
of
our
people,
get
transferred
every
year.
Then,
when
we
replace
them
in
a
new
environment
that
that
is
and
something
that
we
have
to
accommodate.
E
B
B
Them
we
all
remember
Terry.
As
an
employer,
we
have
responsibility
to
to
respect
people's
medical
accommodations,
their
family
status,
accommodations,
whether
it's
a
human
rights
called
related,
or
you
know,
an
injury
that
they've
they've,
sustained
and
I.
Think
it's
the
responsible
thing
to
do
to
respect
those,
and
you
know
to
challenge
those
that
they
may
have
questions
about.
E
Thank
you
for
that.
Chief
I
truly
do
respect
that
and
again
this
shouldn't
be
taken
in
any
way
as
some
kind
of
assault
on
people
that
truly
require
accommodations.
That's
not
what
this
is
about.
This
is
about
what
I've
heard
from
the
membership,
which
there's
some
concern
as
well
as
there's.
Also
another
concern
from
I
elect
to
see
boots
on
the
ground.
E
I
mean
the
more
we
can
see
boots
on
the
ground,
probably
the
better,
and
if
we
have
officers
and
I
believe
one
of
the
questions
was
asked
and
I
don't
know
if
I
received
a
response,
maybe
consists
in
this
at
first
five
year
officers,
the
breadwinners
of
our
organization
after
five
years
or
making
dramatically
more
so
if
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
that
160
category
on
accommodation
in
the
first
five
years
that
could
be
possibly
less
at
mining
people,
even
though
we
backfill
with
other
people.
It's
still
a
concern
for
me
and
I.
E
E
I
think
this
is
part
of
the
other
issue
is
first
of
all,
I'm
commanding
the
report.
It's
well
done.
There's
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
I
love
seeing
this.
This
really
paints
the
picture,
but
it
did
take
and
forgive
me
last
board
we
do
thank
you,
chair
for
holding
this
over.
It
took
five
months
to
generate
that
data
and
as
board
members
I
had
looked
for.
You
know,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
see
them,
I
mean
one,
but
it's
2016.
It
should
be
relatively
easy
to
pull
this
information
out.
E
B
Was
the
chair
that
the
request
was
made
on
May
30th
2016?
He
presented
the
report
at
the
September
board
meeting,
so
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
board
meeting
in
August
I,
don't
believe
so.
So
it's
not
data
that
as
a
police
source.
We
we
recognize
that
we
tabulated
on
a
regular
basis.
It
certainly
puts
the
issue
at
the
forefront
and
I
thank
the
member
for
bringing
up
the
front.
E
And
thank
you
for
that
and
I
understand
that
when
I
went
back
and
forth
looking
for
information,
I
was
said
so
people
understand
what
we're
talking
about,
we
don't
want
it
to
be
piecemeal.
I
think
we've
had
a
good
primer
in
this
dog
news,
very
thorough.
It
explains
the
differences
between
the
categories,
but
at
this
point,
should
it
be
so
difficult
as
a
board
member
to
ask
that
one
board
meeting?
What
are
the
numbers
now?
E
What
do
they
look
like
this
is
30
days
acceptable
to
get
the
information
back
and
frankly
may
not
even
have
to
come
to
the
board.
Maybe
it's
something
that
can
be
done
internally,
I'm.
Just
looking
for
that
speed
of
response
and
accurate
numbers,
not
estimations
so
I
can
keep
a
finger
on
this.
If
it
is
a
concern,
it's
best
to
identify
it
and
try
to
find
solutions
around.
It.
I
think
in
my
mind,
and
that's
what
I'm
hearing
from
many
members
right
now.
B
A
E
He's
great
thank
you
and
just
I
have
a
couple
more
quick
questions.
Mr.
chair,
if
it's
okay,
okay,
we're
looking
at
municipalities
across
the
country,
I
know
some
we're.
Looking
at
the
possibility
of
requiring
WSI,
be
doctors
certified
a
doctor,
that's
certified
as
a
WS
IV
doctor
to
qualify
people
in
advance
of
them
being
able
to
go
on
accommodation.
Are
we
looking
at
these
as
options.
A
That
may
be
I'll
answer
this
one
chief
I
think
to
my
colleague.
Some
of
it
is
in
a
collective
agreement.
Some
police
services
have
a
different
collective
agreement,
and
some
of
it
require
a
third
party
doctor
and
some
don't
so,
but
I
think
we
are
working
with
our
staff
on
this
one
I'm,
not
sure.
If
superintendent
dad
wants
to
add
any
yeah.
F
What
I
can
say
is
what
we
do
is
every
time
we
receive
a
request
for
a
medical
accommodation.
We
provide
forms
that
are
included
in
our
collective
agreement
to
try
to
get
the
best
data
that
we
can
to
look
at
what
limitations
an
employee
may
or
may
not
have.
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
through
that
process,
we
do
have
success
in
in
challenging
the
information
that's
provided,
so
that
we
can
find
the
proper
accommodation
if
any
exists
in
the
different
circumstances.
What
we
are
looking
for,
as
mr.
F
E
Thank
you
that
and
I
do
respect
our
collective
agreement.
I'd
hate
to
dive
too
far
in
the
weeds
on
that,
but
I
think
it's
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
well.
As
the
fact
are
we
looking
at
what
other
forces
are
doing,
I
know
they're
looking
at
the
fact
they
may
be
switching
people
from
into
an
Ltd
position,
a
long
term,
disability
position
if
there
accomodation
for
too
long.
Are
we
also
looking
at
switching
to
the
civilian
side?
E
If
look
frankly,
we
need
boots
on
the
ground
and
and
if
they
have
found
a
situation
where
they're
unable
to
perform
those
duties,
I
think
it'd
behoove
us
not
to
look
at
keeping
the
force.
They
probably
have
a
lot
of
valuable
knowledge,
but
at
the
same
time,
having
them
those
spots
open
up
for
other
people
are
come
in
that
that
that
can
get
out
and
do
the
beat
work,
cetera.
B
Granted
a
police
service
of
our
size
has
many
opportunities
for
police
officers
des
still
able
to
be
performing
the
duties
of
a
police
officer
they
now
it
may
not
be
boots
on
the
ground,
but
they
were
still
contributing
as
police
officers
of
this
police
force
and
their
process
is
outlined
in
the
police
act
that
that
identify
how
we
can
transition
from
sworn
to
civilian
position,
but
those
are
far
and
few
between
and
I
think
I
know
in
speaking
other
Chiefs.
It's
it's
a
lengthy
process,
but
we
also
respect
that
the
size
of
organization.
B
D
You
I'm
just
wondering
before
somebody
comes
on
to
the
forest
they've
gone
through
all
the
steps
and
they
you
know,
meet
all
the
requirements,
and
that
is
there
no
agreement
that
they
have
to
understand
that
in
the
first
five
years
you
not
going
to
get
to
work
days
in
no
weekends
you're
going
to
have
to
work
through
shift,
work
and
you're
gonna
have
to
learn
by
going
through
the
various
different
departments
and
opportunities
and
you're
likely
going
to
be
on
you
could
be
in
the
world.
You
know
on
shift
work
on
that.
D
Is
there
no
understanding
of
that,
because
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
what
the
percentage
of
the
first
five
years
people
are,
that
are
that
are
accommodated
and
then
are
the
restrictions,
if
they're
accommodated
for
those
purposes
to
stop
them
from
working
in
the
evenings.
That's
something
else.
Mr.
B
Chair
when,
when
we
hire
new
police
officers,
it's
generally
understood
that
their
first
five
years
or
so
is
spent
in
patrol
the
challenge
we
have.
Is
that
not
the
challenge,
the
realities
that
we
have
legislation
around
human
rights
code
that
we
have
to
respect?
And
if
a
member
comes
forth
with
legitimate
accommodations
that
falls
under
the
classification
of
Human
Rights?
B
We
have
to
respect
that
if
a
member
comes
forth
and
and
talks
about
requiring
a
medical
accommodation
around
a
mental
health
issue
that
may
have
taken
place
as
a
result
of
responsible
call
for
service,
we
have
to
respect
that.
Remember
you
know
in
a
person
in
a
pursuit
chasing
somebody
jumps
over
a
fence
and
and
tears
his
knee
and
requires
maybe
two
years
worth
of
accommodations
to
after
surgery.
We
have
to
respect
that.
B
So
a
lot
of
things
could
happen
within
a
the
first
five
year
of
a
person's
career
and,
frankly,
I
think
patrol
officers
are
the
one
they're
exposed
to
more
events
that
they
can
get
injured
and
suffer
some
injuries
or
illnesses
that
impact
them
in
those
first
five
years.
So
you
know
we
all
be
interested.
We
haven't
cut
that
data
as
far
as
the
years
of
service,
but
the
reality
is
you
have
to
respect
that.
D
Show
that
that
sure
that
would
be
challenged.
No,
you
can
laugh
if
you
want,
but
I
look
at
the
fact
that
when
once
we
find
out
what
the
percentage
is
and
what
the
number
is,
if
it's
significant
the
pressure
it
puts
on
everybody
else,
is
a
problem.
So
then
we
end
up
having
I
would
think
I
mean
if
it
you
know,
if
you're
at
a
leadership
role-
and
you
don't
have
enough
support
underneath
you
for
the
to
fill
the
wherever
you're
working
and
you're
you're
missing.
D
Somebody
who
you
don't
have
somebody
to
fill
in,
because
somebody
else
has
accommodated
somebody
who
already
is
working
all
the
shifts
on
that
that
you
know
a
person,
lesser
being
accommodated
would
be
working.
Then
all
of
a
sudden
is
pressure
on
that
person
that
they're
either
filling
in
themselves
and
then
I
also
look
at
the
fact
that
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
that
I
talked
to
are
people
who
are
separated
divorce.
Then
they
have
their
children
every
second
week.
D
I
know
that
we've
been
talking
about
it
around
and,
if
and
I'd
like
to
know,
are
of
any
other
forces
in
a
different
position
that
what
about
the
fire
department
I
know.
That's
a
bad
example,
because
they
only
work
four
shifts
a
week
and
for
seven
hours
or
something
like
that,
and
you
know
I
mean
all
of
you
are
thinking
some
fire.
A
joke.
I
can
tell
you
right
now
inside,
but
I
mean
that.
So
that's
a
bad
example,
but
other
forces
does
everybody
give
everybody
in
Canada
or
Lisa.
D
Ontario
has
the
same
human
rights
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
That
is
their
legal
right.
But
do
does
everybody
treat
this
the
same
way
without
any
regulations
or
challenges?
I
think
is
what
I'm
saying
so
I'm
not
asking
for
you
to
have
that
answer.
But
when
you
come
back
the
next
time,
perhaps
we
could
have
more
information.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'll
need
to
be
clear
on
what
the
inquiry
is
and
to
say
that
we
don't
have
regulations
or
rules.
We
have.
We
have
specific
rules
and
regulations
that
we
abide
by
and
we
do
a
you
know
a
get.
The
sense
that
the
you
know,
even
within
the
police
force.
You
know
the
word.
Accommodation
is
a
bad
thing,
I
think
as
an
employer.
It's
our
responsibility
to
respect
member
who
comes
forth
with
a
legitimate
medical
issue
that
that
requires
a
temporary
or
a
long-term
accommodation.
We
all
to
the
employees.
B
D
Just
talking
when
you
you
have,
you
know,
you're
a
leadership
role
in
Canada,
as
the
police
chief,
our
chair
is
the
leadership
role
in
Ontario
in
Canada.
I
would
just
like
to
know
what
others
are
doing,
because
I
think
that
I
think
that
you
know,
for
example,
when
I
hear
that
a
person,
that's
accommodated,
only
works
X
hours,
but
you
know
works
in
the
bar
downtown
in
the
evenings
and
why?
D
D
C
A
Is
possible
to
have
this
reported
an
accommodation
when
we
have
the
quarterly
report
about
the
workforce
management?
That's
the
question
now,
if
you
can
provide
us
with
that,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
the
board
member.
This
is
of
some
is
part
of
a
collective
agreement
and
different
produce
services
have
a
different
collective
agreement.
So
we
can
talk
to
you
about
this
at
some
other
point:
that's
right!
Now!
If
that's
the
question
you
like
more
information,
we
asked
well
I,
spend
a
day
with
last
Tuesday
and
they
show
me
their
well-being,
program
and
accommodation.
A
A
G
You
get
something
third
hand:
it's
never
healthy.
And
yes,
there
is
probably
somebody
who
has
diddled
the
system
once
or
twice
when
you
have
this
many
people,
it
happens,
shame
on
them,
but
it's
not
a
shame
on
our
management
and
our
chief
and
the
people
who
are
responsible
and
I
think
that
has
to
come
through
clear
because
we're
drifting
down
a
little
path
here
that
I'm
not
happy
with,
which
seems
to
intimate
that
the
tail
is
wagging
the
dog
and
in
this
case
that's
not
happening.
E
To
you,
the
data
component,
there
was
one
other
thing,
I'd
request
that
be
in
there,
and
maybe
you
can
answer
why
this
is
I
brought
this
up
at
the
time
of
the
motion
and
I
think
Jim's
quite
correct.
It's
it's
good
to
have
this
data
in
front
of
us,
because
if
we
notice
a
trend,
we
can
identify
it
and
hopefully
try
to
fix
it.
E
B
Members
who
have
certain
accommodations
or
restrictions
around
the
duties
that
it
can
perform
as
long
as
they're
there
restrictions
are
respected.
They
can
work
to
pay
duties,
use
an
example
of
somebody
who
can't
work
night
shift
for
medical
reasons,
there's
no
reason
why
they
can't
do
a
paid
duty
during
the
day.
So
I
think
we
are
paid
duty
process
has
a
list
of
those
people
who
have
accommodations
and
they
will
not
give
a
paid
duty
that
will
go
against
their
restrictions
with
respect
to
the
duties
that
they
are
allowed
to
perform,
and
that's
very.
E
B
I
have
no
authority
to
deny
a
person's
to
pay
duty
if
they
can
perform
that
function.
If
they
can
perform
the
that
dot
shift,
they
could
work
that
duty,
I
I,
would
I
think
the
Association
would
be
the
first
ones
at
my
door
to
knock
on
the
door
and
file
a
grievance,
so
I'm,
based
on
what
grounds
who,
as
long
as
I'm,
respecting
the
restrictions
and
their
accommodations
I've
no
I
see
no
reason
why
not
to
allow
them
to
pay
duties.
Okay,
so.
E
A
Is
important
to
let
the
management
manage
and
also
it's
important
to
respect
the
collective
agreement,
because
that
we
are
the
one
dealing
with
anytime.
Anything
is
not
going
to
hasten
with
their
collective
agreement.
That's
something
we're
working
on
negotiation
and
only
way
we
can
get
ready
through
negotiation.
So
I'm,
now
on
the
inquiry
it's
received
with
the
direction
to
staff.
A
Item
number
15,
and
we
do
have
a
speaker
on
the
item
I-
would
like
to
before
our
brain
item
that
we
also
like
to
recognize
two
of
my
colleagues
here
comes
Doug,
Jodie,
medic
and
counselor
Riley
brockington.
So
on
this
item
is
number
three
response
to
inquiries
about
the
marijuana
dispensaries
in
Ottawa.
We
have
mr.
Richard
Berman,
accompanied
by
a
member
of
the
Orlan
community,
including
Pat
Yorkie
and
Janet
evidence,
if
you
like,
I,
think
just
mr.
H
I
think
it's
helpful
to
remind
everyone
here
of
what
the
role
the
police
plan,
our
legal
on
social
order
for
very
good
reasons.
There
is
by
intention
a
separation
of
enforcement,
prosecution
and
Jude
ocation,
and
that's
fundamental
of
the
rule
of
law
and
Western
democracy,
and
there
were
occasions
when
I
was
on
duty,
where
I
would
observe
minor,
offenses
and
exercise
discretion
as
to
whether
I
would
intervene.
But
there
were
many
more
situations
where
the
nature
of
the
offence
that
I
came
across
was
of
such
significance
in
my
community.
H
That
I
simply
had
to
do
my
duty
to
arrest
intervene,
prevent
the
continuation
of
the
offence,
gathered
the
evidence
and
presented
to
crown
it
wasn't
my
rule
to
become
involved
in
politics.
I
swore
an
oath
when
I
was
a
peace
officers
that
every
member
of
the
Ottawa
police
and
my
role
is
to
be
unbiased,
apolitical
and
never
appear.
H
Show
favor
to
one
group
over
another
lest
I
should
risk
bringing
the
administration
of
justice
into
disrepute,
and
my
way
was
not
to
presume
or
presuppose
the
actions
or
decisions
of
the
crown,
especially
on
serious
or
controversial
matters,
and
what
I
think
we
witnessing
today,
unfortunately,
is
an
abdication
of
the
duty
of
the
police
to
enforce
the
Criminal
Code
of
Canada.
As
it's
currently
written
in
the
books.
The
police
have
entered
the
realm,
the
political
realm
by
presuming
what
the
crown
will
decide
and
what
the
wrong
name
some
future
time.
H
So
why
does
this
matter
not,
unfortunately,
existing
laws
matters
deeply
to
at
least
two
groups:
business
owners
and
parents?
Honest
hard
work
and
self-reliance
owners
in
our
community
are
suffering
economically
and
are
even
destroyed.
These
illegal
drug
stores
open
up
beside
them,
loving
and
caring
parents
cry
and
disbelief
when
they
walk
their
children
to
too
many
clinics
and
Taekwondo
studios
that
now
have
marijuana
stores
right
beside
them.
A
case
in
point
for
a
business
owner
in
Blackburn
Hamlet
mr.
Sean
Silva
unable
to
attend
for
reasons.
H
I'll
explain
shortly
runs
our
local
real
estate
business
on
this
road
and
Blackburn
helmet,
and
had
this
to
say
to
me
three
days
ago
in
an
email
and
I
quote,
the
recent
actions
by
the
landlord
through
his
agent
leasing
space,
two
doors
down
from
my
office
to
this
illegal
operation,
has
had
a
terminal
effect
on
our
business.
We
are
in
disaster
recovery
mode
at
this
time,
as
over,
half
of
our
business
has
disappeared.
Timing
is
not
good
to
attend
this
meeting,
as
we
have
many
things
that
need
our
attention
at
this
time.
H
I
hope
in
efforts
at
the
meeting
of
fruitful.
How,
then,
is
business
going
for
the
Kumaon
to
name
clinic
and
the
Taekwondo
gym
at
the
corner
of
st.
Joseph
and
Elise?
Boulevard
now
that
a
store
has
opened
up
right
in
the
same
building
they
operate.
These
businesses
are
real
community
builders,
they're
selling
products
and
services
that
go
to
the
heart
of
our
local
economies.
They
care
deeply
because
their
businesses
and
livelihoods
are
being
destroyed.
H
Well,
nothing
is
being
done
to
help
them
and
we
had
to
ask
ourselves
tonight
if
this
is
right
and
just
the
pass
of
which
I
am
one
and
late-september
a
story-
opinion
showing
a
mother
who
was
shocked
and
in
tears
with
her
two
children
beside
her
as
she
took
them
to
the
Kumaon
to
Dane
clinic
at
st.
Josephine's
Boulevard
wafting
out
the
front
doors
as
young
males
in
their
late
teens
early
20s
came
and
went.
H
The
juxtaposition
and
irony
of
this
image
imagery
could
not
be
more
poignant
parents
care
about
a
lack
of
enforcement
because
they
want
to
protect
their
kids
from
getting
pulled
down
the
path
of
the
drug
culture.
They
teach
their
kids
to
stay
away
from
drugs.
They
don't
want
the
kids
anywhere
near
the
marijuana
or
drugs,
and
they
don't
want
the
storefront
selling
marijuana
in
their
communities
because
it
goes
against
what
they're
trying
to
teach
their
kids.
H
They
know
it's
not
like
selling
beer.
They
know
this
industry
is
selling
something.
Studies
have
confirmed
quadruples
the
risk
of
trigger
schizophrenia
and
they've
heard
about
the
risk
of
prolonged
children's
IQ,
and
these
businesses
are
marketing
directly
to
their
children.
Their
most
precious
loves
with
candies
brownies,
cookies,
lollipops
and
drinks
serve
under
names
like
midnight,
crush
solely
to
attractive
to
youth.
They
need
our
children
to
become
our
customers
for
tomorrow.
Our
innocent
children
are
in
this
industry's
crosshairs
and
youth
uptake
is
critical
to
the
future
of
their
business.
H
So
as
parents,
we
consider
all
of
this
just
way
too
much.
It's
a
direct
assault
on
our
children.
They
feel
like
they
have
no
voice,
no
support
from
our
elected
officials
or
our
police
and
they're
busy
working
and
caring
for
children.
They
can't
take
time
to
speak
at
a
police
services
board
meeting
and
they're
not
paid
lobbyists.
H
So
three
questions
often
I'll
be
done.
One
way
the
police
simply
enforce
laws
currently
on
the
books.
Do
you
have
any
suggestions?
How
local
business
owners
and
parents
can
stop
the
proliferation
of
these
stores
and
our
communities
and
one
of
the
public
authorities
stand
up
for
us,
law-abiding
business
owners
and
parents
of
young
children.
A
I
I
Break-Ins
and
other
things,
it's
my
belief
that
if
the
laws
are
allowed
to
be
flaunted
by
these
marijuana
shops,
that
crime
will
actually
increase
that
there
may
be
a
vigilante
action.
Why
wouldn't
a
youth
think
that,
what's
the
point
of
obeying
the
law,
if
it's
not
even
going
to
be
enforced,
I
me
as
well
text
and
drive
whatever
breaking
I
can
get
away
with.
I
I
Middle
school
and
high
schools
all
within,
like
ten
minutes
walking
distance
of
this
place,
and
we
have
a
in
our
community
a
subsidized
housing
area,
a
development
that
these
we
were
told
was
put
in
there
to
provide
the
the
children
that
come
that
live
in
this
area
to
be
influenced
by
the
the
other
residents
in
Blackburn
hamlet,
who,
in
the
hopes
that
they
would
be
a
positive
influence
to
help
them
have
a
better
life
than
perhaps
their
parents
had,
and
for
us
to
have
this
come
into
that
community.
So
close
is
just
you
know.
I
A
I
You
very
much
for
coming
here
and
telling
us
the
things
that
are
happening
in
Orleans,
but
that's
actually
part
of
our
request
from
the
community
and
I
know.
I've
had
many
conversations
with
city
councillors
in
the
same
regard,
medical
marijuana
has
been
legislated
by
the
federal
government
and
they
are.
There
are
strict
rules
around
them
and
we
are
trying
to
enforce
those
rules
along
with
the
City
licensing
people
and
anyone
else
that
we
can
draw
in
to
problem
solving.
H
I
Thank
you
so
so
in
that
regard,
those
are
the
those
are
the
complaints
that
we
need.
We've
actually
facilitated
people
were
being
implements.
You
can
do
those
online.
What
we
have
done
is
we've
approached
the
federal
prosecutor,
the
Federal
crown
to
ensure
that
they
are
willing
to
prosecute,
because
the
legislation
is
so
new.
I
We
wanted
to
ensure
that
they
were
on
board
with
us
and
they
are,
but
there
are
quite
a
checklist
of
evidence
that
we
have
to
produce
before
we're
going
to
be
in
a
position
that
we
can
actually
prosecute
or
present
a
case
for
prosecution.
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now
is,
is
itemizing
the
pieces
of
evidence
that
we
need
to
have
to
prove
that
they
are
breaching
the
legislation.
H
May
I
have
a
response
from
federal,
MP
Andrew
Leslie,
where
he
advised
me
that
there
is
no
gray
zone,
I,
quote
or
ambiguity
here.
Cannabis
is
only
permitted
to
be
sold
by
licensed
vendors
through
the
mail,
as
local
dispensary
would
not
have
the
required
federal
license
and
is
therefore
clearly
operating
outside
the
law.
As
such,
this
dispensary
would
be
totally
unregulated
and
our
risk
to
its
customers.
H
B
So
what
we
can
tell
you
is
that
we
are
actively
investigating
those
that
have
opened
up.
We
have
met
with
the
Federal
crown
and
they
have
agreed
to
prosecute
those,
but
there's
a
quite
a
lot
of
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
in
presenting
a
case
for
them
to
prosecute
and
that's
what
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
on
certain
of
the
facilities
we
don't
have
as
a
plea
service,
the
ability
to
say
you
can't
open.
We
don't
have
that
legal
authority.
You
talked
about
suggestions
as
far
as
how
to
prevent
this
from
happening.
B
Perhaps
the
city
through
licensing,
could
strengthen
its
bylaws
with
respect
to
permit
allocations
with
respect
to
these
types
of
establishments,
opening
up
that
they
were
require
licensed
by
the
city.
So
that's
something
where
perhaps
that
the
city
could
do
in
advance
to
prevent
them
from
actually
opening
up
and
as
a
police
service
and
I
can
tell
you,
you
know,
speaking
with
chief
Saunders
in
Toronto
their
approach
to
to
aggressively
targeting
enforcing
you
know.
B
I
would
say
three
quarters
are
the
ones
they've
shut
down,
have
reopened
up
in
other
locations,
so
police
again,
don't
have
the
authority
to
shut
down
a
place,
we'll
do
an
investigation,
we'll
get
a
warrant
we'll
seize
the
sees
the
evidence,
charge
the
people,
and
then
they
have
every
ability
to
open
up
in
another
location
to
meet
that
the
demand
that's
out
there.
So
that's
the
challenge
that
we
have,
but
I
can
assure
you
we
are
investigating.
B
There
may
be
some
charges
laid
and
we're
also
working
with
the
city
and
in
other
areas
around
the
current
laws
that
exist
within
bylaws
and
we've
also
had
some
success
with
with
putting
pressure
on
landlords
of
these
establishments
where
businesses
have
actually
shut
down.
Because
of
the
attention
that
we've
paid
in
the
area
appreciate.
H
A
Have
that
exchange?
You
ask
the
question,
but
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
saw
because
I'm
the
author
of
that
after
inquiry,
chief
one
of
the
question
been
asked
by
my
colleague
and
by
our
resident,
can't
the
police
confiscate
illegal
drugs,
yes
or
no
confiscated
and
put
it
away
without
linked
charges,
because
when
either
the
Attorney
General's
Comet
said
is
up
to
the
police
to
enforce
the
law.
Clearly
he's
putting
the
oath
on
us
to
act
now,
a
lot
of
times,
police
officer
and
I
heard
a
time
time
ago.
A
They
can
confiscate
drugs
from
individual
illegal
drugs
and
they
don't
include
charges.
You
can
just
store
it
and
don't
lay
charges
and
why
don't
we
go
to
those
stores
who
have
illegal
product
as
we
speak
today
and
confiscate
it
and
and
just
put
it
out,
you
don't
have
to
let
charges
I
understand
the
crown
is
not
can
we
can
we
hear
the
folks?
Can
we
please.
B
B
We
have
to
do
the
investigation
that
is
done
by
observations
that
is
done
by
sending
officers
in
undercover
to
buy
the
materials
and
then
building
that
case
to
demonstrate
that
they
were
actually
trafficking
a
substance
and
then
working
with
the
medical
marijuana
licensing
issue
and
that
act-
and
you
know,
but
but
you
raised
a
good
point
with
respect
to
the
impact
of
new
legislation
that
comes
in
most
often
when
these
new
laws
are
enacted.
The
police
service
at
the
local
level
are
left
with
the
the
implementation
and
the
enforcement
regulations
without
new
resources.
B
So
if
we
legalize
marijuana-
and
we
have
all
these
shops
that
we
have
to
look
at-
that's
that's
the
new
business
for
us
that
we
have
to
add
on
to
the
work
that
we
have
now.
So
that's
that's
something
that's
never
taken
in
consideration.
You
look
at
them.
The
impact
on
impaired
driving
and
drug
driving.
A
Have
retry
and
we
think
that
a
search
warrant
from
a
clown,
because,
if
that's
the
case,
you
should
come
up
publicly
and
saying
the
clown
is
not
given
search
warrant,
because
the
Attorney
General
himself
sends
up
to
the
police
to
enforce.
It
has
left
the
window
in
the
community
to
say:
well,
it's
up
to
the
police.
Mr.
B
Chair
review
spoked
the
Ontario's
attorney
ground.
They
have
no
jurisdiction
on
this.
It's
the
federal
crime
federal
prosecutions
office
that
that
our
overseas,
the
Controlled,
Substances
Act
and
I'm
not
going
to
compromise
any
investigation
with
respect
to
what
we've
done
so
far
with
respect
to
undercover
purchases
or
with
specific
establishments
in
our
city.
But
I
can
assure
you
that
we
have
our
drug
section
has
open
investigations
and
it's
targeting
some
of
those
establishments.