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Planning Advisory Committee - November 10, 2021
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B
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A
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C
So
we
have
don
erwin
court
courier
here
is
anyone
else
from
staff
joining
us?
E
Yeah,
I
think
we
had
some
internal
confusion.
I
saw
an
email
that
I
just
replied
back
that
suggested
the
meeting
started
at
six,
so
I've
I
believe
lily
is
joining
us
and
richard
ash
from
building
code
services
so
yeah.
Hopefully
they
saw
the
email
and.
C
A
Sorry
chair,
I
just
received
an
email
from
richard
and
I'm
just
sending
him
the
the
zoom
details
now.
C
Okay
sounds
good,
so
welcome
to
agenda
seven
of
the
planet
virus
community
called
meeting
to
order
for
wednesday
november
10th.
So
do
just
do
a
quick
roll
call.
I
can
run
through
that
shannon
bassetts.
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D
How
about
now
there
you
go
my
hair
right
now,
okay,
just
regarding
the
minutes,
I
did
have
a
comment
about
the
minutes,
just
more
so
the
extreme
brevity
it
felt
like
it
didn't
really
capture.
That
was
a
pretty
in-depth
conversation.
D
We
had
at
the
presentation
for
the
official
or
sorry
the
official
plan,
as
we
heard
it
review,
and
it
felt
like
the
actual
record
of
that
meeting,
was
extremely
abbreviated
and
did
not
record
most
of
what
I
thought
was
a
really
great
discussion
and
with
some
pointers
and
some
requests
for
follow-up
and
qualifications,
so
not
sure
where
to
go
from
here.
It's
it's
just.
I
would
like
to
note
that
to
me,
those
minutes
do
not
capture
the
full
extent
of
the
conversation.
D
C
So
in
the
new
year
we're
going
to
start
live
streaming
advisor
community
meetings,
but
for
this
meeting
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
upload
it
to
youtube
after
the
fact.
So
it
will
be
there
viewable
for
anyone
afterwards.
So
just
a
reminder
for
those
on
camera
that
it
will
be
displayed
on
youtube
at
a
later
date
and
it
just
lives
in
perpetuity.
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C
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E
D
A
comment
about
action,
more
action
like
when,
when,
when
we're
asking
for
follow-up-
and
I
think
it's
again-
it's
not
the
first
time
that
we've
asked
for
follow-up
on
some
of
our
comments
and
and
and
it's
it's
more
of
that-
that
somehow
there's
a
record
of
conversations
and
requests
for
follow-up.
That,
and
you
know
the
meeting
minutes
somehow
record
that
need
to
take
action
and
there
were
no
action
items
in
those
maintenance.
C
A
A
Yeah,
I
know
it
was
me
as
well
yeah
and
technically,
as
per
the
procedure
by
law.
Minutes
are
supposed
to
be
action
minutes
I
can.
I
can
go
back
and
and
look
if
there's
concern,
I
think
it
was
the
the
op
was
the
special
meeting
that
which
is
july.
So
I
can
take
that
away,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
that
the
recording
of
that
meeting
was
circulated
to
a
lot
of
people
afterwards.
C
C
Okay,
so
on
the
minutes
for
february
3rd
2021,
can
we
carry
those
gary?
Thank
you
and
then
the
special
meeting
minutes
of
july
15
2021,
just
obviously
with
the
comments
that
muhammad
noted
carried.
Thank
you.
So
we
have
one
item
on
the
agenda
today
and
it
is
an
item
that
assumes
that
nothing
will
happen
between
today
and
the
end
of
the
year.
It
is
a
year
in
review
before
the
year
is
over.
C
So
it's
a
planning
infrastructure.development
2021
year
in
review
and
with
us
we
have
dawn
herwire
court,
curry
richard
ashe.
E
Sure,
chair
I'll
I'll
start
and
hopefully
lily
can
join
us
and
do
her
section
at
the
end.
If
not
I'll
I'll
go
through
her
through
her
slide
so
kelly,
can
you
move
to
the
edlrp
section,
I'm
thinking
it's
around
slide,
eight
or
nine.
E
All
right,
so
it's
good
to
be
with
everyone
this
evening
again
my
name
is
don
herwire.
I'm
the
director
of
economic
development
and
long-range
planning
at
the
city
just
thought.
I'd
spend
a
couple
moments
covering
the
year
that
almost
was
in
terms
of
2021
we're
we're,
I
guess
10
months
and
a
bit
through.
E
E
So
staff
are
currently
busy
working
through
all
the
motions
and
and
changes
that
were
made.
Joint
committee
and
council
packaging,
the
patch
packaging.
E
Those
amendments
up
and
we'll
be
it'll
be
a
bylaw
that
goes
to
council
at
the
end
of
november,
after
which
we
will
be
sending
it
off
to
the
the
ministry
of
municipal
affairs
and
housing
for
their
review
and
hopefully
approval
so
that
that's
anticipated,
probably
in
the
spring
of
next
year,
in
terms
of
the
the
time
they
have
to
to
review
they
can
they
can
review
I'm
sorry
they
can
approve,
as
is
they
can
make
modifications
or
they
can
send
it
back
to
us
with.
E
E
So
we
building
on
the
official
plan
work.
We
presented
a
new
zoning,
bylaw
work
plan
and
budgets
preliminary
version
in
january,
and
then
just
today,
council
approved
the
the
work
plan
and
budget
that
that
will
really
build
on
the
official
plan
and
implement
a
lot
of
those
changes
on
the
ground.
You
know
neighborhood
by
neighborhood.
E
Another
project
that
was
completed
was
the
westboro
infill.
Zoning
project
that
was
completed
in
february
of
this
year
would
give
you
a
fairly
good
sense
of
some
of
the
zoning
changes
that
will
likely
flow
from
the
official
plan
in
certain
neighborhoods,
so
a
very
successful
project.
We
resolved
some
some
last
appeals
on
our
infill
zoning
changes
in
may
of
this
year.
E
E
You
know
for
reasonable
uses
that
that
would
support
those
agricultural
operations
we
building
on
our
work
with
with
bylaw.
There
was
some
zoning
changes
that
implemented
the
short-term
rental
bylaw
in
the
spring
of
2021.
E
That
is
currently
under
appeals,
we're
waiting
to
to
sort
that
out,
and
then
there
are
some
amendments
that
are
really
setting
the
stage
for
the
new
zoning
bile
out
call
them
quick
hit
amendments,
some
some
housekeeping
getting
some
things
in
order
and
yeah,
our
group
drafted
129
zoning
amendments
and
dealt
with
six
legal
non-conforming
reviews.
So
that's
uses
that
exist
and
predate
the
zoning
bylaw
that
have
those
rights
to
continue
next
slide.
A
E
Another
another
project-
it's
and
this
is
near
and
dear
to
caroline's
heart-
is
the
bank
street
height
character,
review
it's
scheduled
to
come
to
planning
committee
on
november
25th,
so
we'll
assume
that
will
be
in
the
completed
column
soon.
Other
secondary
plans
that
were
completed
were
the
corso
italia
station
district,
secondary
plan
formerly
referred
to
as
the
gladstone
secondary
plan.
We
had
a
secondary
plan
for
the
east
urban
community
that
was
approved
in
earlier
this
year,
and
I
did
mention
the
westboro
study
in
q1
apologies.
E
If
you
can
hear
my
cat
meowing
ongoing
projects,
we
have
both
building
better
smarter
suburbs
and
building
better
infill,
and
those
are
multiple
projects
that
that
cross
multiple
service
areas
that
are
ongoing
and
and
will
continue
in
the
coming
years
as
well.
Next
slide.
E
Some
pro
projects
that
are
in
progress
that
are
not
complete
fine,
pinecrest
queensview
station
riverside
south
lincoln
field
secondary
plan,
the
orleans
lrt
corridor
station
plan.
E
E
Some
some
other
projects
that
are
that
are
underway
is
the
inclusionary
zoning
piece
that
that
will
build
off
the
the
policies
that
were
established
and
the
framework
in
the
official
plan
and
those
are
those
are
tied
to
you-
know:
affordable
housing
in
transit
station
areas.
As
per
the
the
planning
act,
we
have
an
interim
control
by
along
the
along
the
woodruff
corridor
to
to
protect
for
land
for
that
extension
of
stage
two,
and
that
will
be
wrapping
up
in
q2
next
year.
E
Currently
we're
we're
dealing
with
some
changes
to
our
commercial
outdoor
patios
building
on
some
of
our
experience
and
we
think
successes
during
during
the
the
pandemic
and
in
terms
of
loosening
up
some
of
those
permissions,
so
that
will
be
coming
to
committee.
I
believe
in
december
then
there's
again
some
various
zoning
pieces
that
that
are
ongoing
or
about
to
to
hit
committee
yeah
next
slide.
Please.
H
Great
thanks
don
nice
to
see
a
lot
of
familiar
faces
on
the
call
tonight
and
for
those
of
you
that
I
haven't
met
before
my
name.
Is
court
curry,
I'm
the
manager
of
right
away
heritage,
urban
design
at
the
the
city
so,
as
dawn
said
on
behalf
of
the
department?
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
out
tonight
and
listening
to
us,
certainly
we're
going
to
be
giving
you
a
lot
of
information
on
on
what
is
being
proposed
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
H
What
we've
accomplished
and
certainly
welcome
your
questions
at
the
end
of
under
the
deck.
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
public
roman
urban
design
group,
which
is
part
of
my
team,
made
up
of
landscape
architects.
Architects
planners
focused
on
designing
great
public
spaces
and
on
providing
design
assistance
to
our
development
review
program
in
terms
of
ongoing
projects.
H
This
year,
we've
been
working
quite
closely
with
don's
group
as
part
of
the
covet
economic
recovery
on
public
realm
tactical
urbanism
projects,
so
you've
likely
seen
the
road
closures
in
the
glee,
the
byrd
market,
various
parts
of
center
town,
supporting
the
restaurant
retail
sector.
Looking
at
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
creating
temporary
pop-up
spaces
and
additional
pedestrian
spaces
to
support
our
our
traditional
main
streets,
we've
also
been
reviewing
our
design
review
panel
management.
H
So
those
of
you
that
have
been
at
the
panel
before
or
know
of
the
panel
we've
had
the
panel
made
up
of
architects
and
landscape
architects
from
across
ontario
that
looked
at
some
of
our
more
higher
profile
development.
It's
been
in
existence
now
for
15
years
and
obviously,
with
the
enhanced
importance
on
urban
design
placed
by
an
official
plan
we're
looking
at
what
comes
to
our
panel
and
how
we
provide
development.
Ongoing
development
support
through
through
the
panel
operations
we've
got.
H
The
busiest
urban
design
panel
in
the
country
just
did
a
scan
across
canada.
We've
got
the
most
number
of
applications
and
the
most
number
of
sittings
of
any
panel
in
canada
which
we're
very
proud
of
and
we're
looking
at
as
we
move
forward
how
we
can
refine
our
criteria
to
make
sure
that
the
most
important
ones
are
going
there
and
in
general,
how
we
can
infuse
that
design
culture
throat
throughout
the
department.
H
Part
of
that
is
through
the
development
of
urban
design
guidelines.
Some
of
you
will
be
familiar
with
the
high-rise
design
guidelines
that
were
completed
two
years
ago
again.
Our
new
official
plan
places
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
low-rise
housing
and
ground-oriented
development.
Our
next
design
guideline
up
is
the
low
rise
design
guidelines,
which
will
be
before
council
by
the
by
next
june.
H
The
team
is
busy
working
on
that
right
now
and
there'll
be
industry
and
community
engagement
on
that
we're
working
as
well
on
the
development
of
new
maintenance
quality
standards
for
specialty
spaces
and
streets.
What
the
heck
is
that
that
sounds
like
a
bunch
of
government
gobbly
goop.
It
is
basically
our
standards
that
our
public
works.
Colleagues
use
to
maintain
our
our
main
streets
so
think
about
manatee,
main
street
or
west
richmond
road
in
westborough
or
the
byrd
market.
H
We're
working
with
that
team
on
an
elevated
standard
for
maintenance,
graffiti
removal
street
sweeping
replacement
of
pavers
maintenance
of
trees,
landscaping
et
cetera,
to
really
denote
that
there
are
streets
and
places
in
ottawa
that
deserve
a
higher
level
of
maintenance
and
upkeep
they
align
to
our
development
objectives
to
our
economic
development
objectives,
and
it,
of
course,
all
comes
with
a
with
a
price
tag.
Working
on
that
strategy
to
put
before
council
in
the
spring
final
piece
on
here
is
the
land
management
system
implementation.
H
So,
when
lily
joins
us,
she'll
likely
be
speaking
further
about
it,
but
it's
a
25
million
dollar
I.t
investment
once
in
a
generation
that
is
essentially
going
to
allow
us
to
to
take
in
all
planning
applications
and
circulation
electronically
also
engage
differently
with
the
community
and
really
it's
the
backbone
of
how
our
department
works
in
terms
of
doing
business
and
we're
excited
to
to
look
at
its
opportunities
to
be
more
transparent
and
to
disseminate
information
more
readily
to
those
interested
in.
In
that
type
of
information.
H
Next
slide
in
terms
of
projects
initiated
this
year,
we
were
lucky
to
receive
a
significant
amount
of
federal
infrastructure
funding
for
the
public
realm.
Obviously,
we've
never
appreciated
it
more
in
our
lifetimes
in
the
last
18
months,
so
the
federal
government
was
generous
enough
to
give
us
some
funding
to
undertake
a
suite
of
tactical
programs,
one
of
which
is
taking
ottawa
into
the
big
city
leagues.
H
Those
of
you
that
have
traveled
around
north
america
or
the
world
really
have
seen
how
sophisticated
cities
have
a
sophisticated
wayfinding
signage
in
their
in
their
court,
demonstrating
where
amenities
such
as
public
washrooms
tourism
destinations
public
transit.
H
H
There's
a
our
first
one
right
outside
the
radio
station
on
williams
street
and
it's
really
working
with
a
company
out
of
london,
england
and
toronto
on
on
implementing
a
really
sophisticated
way
that
that
pairs
up
with
our
transit
way.
Finding
we're
also
building
auto,
was
two
first
publicly
owned:
standalone
public
washrooms,
obviously
with
social
equity
being
top
of
mind
more
than
ever
before
the
gotta
go
campaign.
H
Folks
and
a
number
of
advocacy
groups
have
done
a
lot
of
good
work
and
have
rallied
us
to
make
the
business
case
to
build
two
standalone
washrooms
into
our
economic
centers,
being
spark
street
and
byron
markets
working
on
the
design,
implementation
of
those
and
finally,
the
viral
market.
Sus6.
No
traffic
study.
H
What
the
heck
is
that
that
is
a
traffic
study,
which
is
the
first
step
at
reinvigorating
and
reimagining
the
space
right
in
front
of
the
temporary
senate
at
the
intersection
of
of
sussex
and
rito,
where
there's
that
flyover,
I'm
looking
at
national
capital,
commission
plans,
city
plans
call
for
a
reconfiguration
and
a
pedestrianization
of
that
space,
and
the
traffic
study
is
the
first
step
in
terms
of
building
the
business
case.
H
To
dismantle
the
traffic
flyer
that
was
built
in
the
50s
and
really
create
a
new
ceremonial
gateway
to
both
confederation
boulevard,
but
also
the
byrd
market,
lower
town
precinct
right
at
the
footstep
of
the
major
investment
has
been
made
by
cadillac,
fairview
and
others
in
the
market
in
the
last
few
years,
and
then
finally,
we've
got
our
our
2021
river
design,
awards
they're
put
on
every
two
years
very
important
in
terms
of
calling
it
and
recognizing
great
urban
design
that
is
being
undertaken
in
our
in
our
community.
H
Also,
these
these
successful
awards
recipients
go
forward
to
the
raic
awards.
Unfortunately,
they
they
will
be
online
this
year,
but
they
will
be
released.
The
award
winners
will
be
released
at
the
end
of
this
month.
H
Next
slide
so
over
to
heritage
planning
made
up
of
heritage
planners
that
you'd
be
familiar
with
in
terms
of
those
either
come
out
to
build
here
subcommittee
or
that
do
business
with
with
the
department
I'll
go
through
the
year
in
review.
There
next
slide,
please
so
currently
continuing
the
review
of
our
centertown
heritage
conservation
plan,
it's
one
of
our
oldest
existing
plans
and
our
biggest
heritage
conservation
district.
So
it
was
put
in
place
in
1997
by
the
former
city
of
ottawa.
H
We've
also
had
significant
change
of
legal
terrain
in
ontario,
with
respect
to
heritage,
with
the
implementation
of
bill
108
the
most
sweeping
changes
to
the
ontario
heritage
act
since
2005,
really
a
new
onus
on
the
city
in
terms
of
notification
to
the
public
and
to
land
owners
of
of
heritage
implications
on
their
property
and
much
more
due
diligence
on
the
city
to
identify
earlier
in
the
development
review
process
where
there's
a
heritage
interest.
H
So
in
the
midst
of
implementing
all
those
mandatory
changes
to
our
program
right
now,
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
that
further.
H
If
there's
those
interested
in
discussing
further
next
slide
kelly,
so,
finally,
in
terms
of
of
projects
initiated
this
year
following
up
on
the
footsteps
of
centertown,
we're
undertaking
the
byron
market,
lower
town,
west,
british
conservation,
district
update
to
very
important
parts
of
town,
not
seeing
a
lot
of
development,
but
certainly
these
are
older
plans
that
are
that
are
not
conformed
with
modern
heritage
legislation,
and
we
want
to
pair
up
with
our
byron
market
public
home
plan.
So
that's
just
getting
underway
later
this
month.
H
Updating
our
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
in
terms
of
reference,
so
those
of
you
that
have
clients
or
or
know
what
these
are.
There
are
exactly
what
the
title
says
are
our
studies
that
provide
impacts
of
development
through
the
lens
of
the
ontario
heritage
act,
updating
our
requirements
in
alignment
with
the
new
official
plan
and
new
legislation
next
year.
H
A
neat
project
in
council
brockton's
board
is
a
the
heritage
study
of
the
carleton
carlington
north
veterans
community.
So
those
of
you
familiar
with
that
community
right
across
the
street
from
the
the
old
westgate
mall,
has
really
interesting
heritage
merits
to
it
in
terms
of
not
necessarily
the
housing.
H
You
know
all
the
small
little
box,
post-war
houses
that
were
built
for
our
vets,
but
more
the
layout
of
the
streets
and
the
setbacks
so
not
sure
at
the
district,
but
we're
engaging
with
the
community
right
now
on
looking
at
what
form
of
heritage
protection
should
be
put
on
that
very
special
and
unique
community
in
ottawa,
and
then
finally,
similar
to
development
review.
We've
implemented
a
an
opportunity
for
community
associations
to
undertake
to
have
us
to
the
table,
rather
at
our
pre-consultation
applications
for
for
our
heritage.
H
Applications
worked
out
quite
successfully
in
terms
of
bringing
folks
from
the
community
into
the
tent
earlier
in
the
development
review
process.
We've
done
an
evaluation
and
we're
now
making
that
permanent
buzz
of
last
month
for
all
neighborhoods
in
ottawa
for
all
heritage
applications
that
come
up
to.
H
So
I
whizzed
through
that
fast
again,
as
I
said
earlier,
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
provide
any
clarity
at
the
end.
I
think
it
is
now
over
to
mr
buchanan
sorry
miss
trash
richard.
I
Yeah,
maybe
me
thank
you,
court
and
good
evening.
Everybody
thanks
for
coming
out
and
for
those
who
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
richard
ashe,
I'm
the
manager
of
permit
approvals
for
building
code
services
next
slide
piece.
I
So
this
is
the
one
and
only
slide
that
we
have.
We
don't
have
the
numerous
slides
with
the
other
groups,
but
I
don't
want
that
to
make
you
think
that
we're
we're
not
that
we're
sitting
on
our
hands
and
building
gold
services
just
to
maybe
a
quick
little
tweet
out
to
everyone.
If
they
hadn't
already
heard
the
mayor
had
kindly
put
out
a
tweet
that
we
hit
10
000
building
permits
back
in
october
and
we're
over
10
500
now
and
probably
going
to
top
out
over
11
000.
I
So
as
a
heavily
operational
group,
we're
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
we've
managed
to
keep
keep
ourselves
together
through
covid
and
and
managed
to
put
out
that
number
of
permits
who
knew
we
would
get
a
building
boom
through
through
something
like
this.
I
But
on
top
of
that
we
are
doing
a
number
of
reviews
of
bylaws.
The
building
biola
started
this
year
and
is
an
ongoing
review
and
slated
to
be
completed
in
q2
of
2022.
I
I
It
was
hoped
these
were
going
to
be
completed
in
2021,
but
have
been
pushed
a
little
bit
due
to
due
to
other
priorities
and
then,
of
course,
the
annual
report
pursuant
to
the
building
code
act
is
dealt
with
on
an
annual
basis
and
that
that'll
be
going
to
committing
committee
and
council
at
a
later
date
and
some
other
ongoing
pros
projects.
Court
had
spoken
briefly
about
the
land
management
system.
I
Building
code
services
is
the
first
first
go
live
in
a
long
stream
of
other
groups
that
are
we'll
be
taking
that
on
it's
the
backbone
architecture,
gis
system
that
we
currently
use
now
under
another
system,
but
it's
end
of
life
and
we'll
be
moving
forward.
With
this
new
system.
We
have
a
vendor
on
site
and
configuration
is
ongoing.
I
We
will
have
early
in
2022,
we'll
have
our
release
one.
A
billing
code
services
is
breaking
it
down
into
a
couple
of
go
lives.
First,
one
being
early
spring
of
2022
with
go,
live
two
in
the
in
q4,
and
you
know
this
will
sort
of
give
us
a
more
of
a
digital
overall
digital
process
for
implementation
of
permits.
Issuance
everything
will
be
done
and
there'll
be
a
there'll,
be
a
portal
in
order
to
apply
and
pay
online.
I
So
it's
a
very
transformative
with
regards
to
the
processes
that
we
have
today
and
and
should
be.
I
think
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
I
think
something
that
will
be
well
received
by
by
industry
being
able
to
it's,
not
not
that
we
don't
want
to
see
you
on
our
counters,
but
we'll
obviously
see
maybe
a
little
bit
less
of
you
as
you
as
you
apply
and
deal
online
with
the
new
system.
So
that's
what
we
have,
and
that
is
the
end
of
the
presentation.
J
Thank
you
chair.
I
sing.
C
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
lily
is
our
acting
director
of
planning
services,
leanne
sneden
has
retired,
and
but
lily
has
not
been
at
this
at
this
committee
before
so.
That's
where
her
role
is
now.
J
J
Thank
you
so
chair
and
members
of
committee,
and
it's
my
great
pleasure
to
be
here
to
provide
you
the
year
in
review
for
planning
services.
2021
is
a
challenging
year.
One
of
the
challenges
that
we
were
facing
was
the
work
volume.
After
a
gentle
cooling
down
in
2020,
the
land
and
development
industry
picked
up
a
very
high
speed
in
2021,
resulting
on
over
20
increase
in
application
volume
comparing
to
last
year
for
the
same
period
as
shown
here.
J
The
graphics
here
are
based
on
the
data
by
the
end
of
september.
We
have
just
received
information
for
october.
The
application
value
in
october
is
a
historical
record
for
any
month.
In
the
past
five
years,
and
probably
10
or
20
years
as
well,
there
were
20.
There
were
81
applications
received
in
a
single
month
of
october.
J
It
is
also
noticeable
that
the
number
of
pre-application
consultations
that
we
have
held
in
2021
hits
a
new
record
as
well.
This
is
a
strong
indicator
of
the
application
value
in
the
next
two
years,
because
typically,
a
pre-application
consultation,
materializes
into
actual
development
applications
in
one
or
two
years,
and
also
shown
here.
The
general
trend
of
application
values
in
different
areas.
The
central
rural
and
the
west
areas
are
experiencing
a
noticeable
increase,
while
the
south
and
the
east
areas
appear
to
be
generally
consistent,
comparing
to
last
year
next
slide.
Please.
J
Planning
services,
our
staff
takes
a
great
pride
in
our
work.
The
development
application
review
process
is
a
value
adding
process
through
collaboration.
So
I'd
like
to
highlight
a
few
examples
from
this
year
here.
The
first
image
on
the
left
is
the
addition
to
the
chateau
laurier
hotel.
Our
team
worked
closely
with
heritage
and
urban
design
teams
during
the
review
of
the
site
plan
control
application.
J
This
is
the
application
that
we
have
received
the
greatest
number
of
public
comments.
I
think
a
number
was
around
1300
comments
or
or
more
than
that.
The
second
image
is
for
the
development
of
two
robinson
avenue.
It
is
a
mix
to
use
with
over
1400
units
and
through
the
review
of
official
plan,
amendment
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
the
site
plan
control
applications.
J
J
J
J
So,
in
addition
to
development
applications,
we
also
carry
down
a
number
of
special
projects
in
2021.
The
land
management
system,
which
were
mentioned
several
times
already,
will
fundamentally
change
how
planning
services
does
business.
We
have
identified
the
two
full-time
staff
as
dedicated
resources
to
work
on
business
requirements
to
help
us
prepare
for
release
2
in
2023,
also
as
a
result
of
the
new
official
plan,
our
staff
are
now
reviewing
applications
according
to
both
the
new
plans
or
plan
policies.
J
J
The
new
land
management
system
will
help
us
track
staff's
time
better
to
come,
complete
the
full
cost
accounting
exercise.
This
will
also
allow
fees
to
reflect
the
time
actually
spent
on
applications
and
help
matching
workforce
needs
with
applications
coming
in
and
also
the
brownfield.
A
community
improvement
plan
is
due
for
an
update
and
the
new
plans
are
currently
being
worked
on
and
will
join
other
cip
programs
to
seek
council
approval
in
2023.
J
J
We
also
worked
on
improvements
to
sci-fi
conditions,
and
the
goal
is
to
ensure
consistency
with
legal
services
to
support
a
shortened
agreement
on
a
timeline
and,
finally,
a
the
pilot
project
of
the
community
planning
permit
system
for
canada
north
tech
park.
I
saw
cheer
guard
just
for
the
link
from
cbc's
coverage,
and
this
is
for
this
site
after
this
project
as
well.
It
is
an
exercise
to
develop
a
new
type
of
process,
with
intent
to
make
approval
more
streamlined,
to
support
the
local
priorities
and
to
create
a
predictability
for
the
community.
J
Thank
you
looking
forward.
We
are
very
excited
about
2022,
with
the
full
implementation
of
the
new
op
and
the
number
of
exciting
development
applications
to
progress
forward,
including
the
salvation
army
side
plan,
the
manor
park
area,
specific
plan
and
the
tailwind
sector
implant
and
the
community
design
plan
that
has
been
worked
on
jointly
by
planning
services
and
don
hawars.
J
C
C
All
right,
we'll
start
with
and
cloak.
A
G
Wonderful,
this
question
I
think,
overlaps
several
of
the
presentations
tonight
in
terms
of
some
of
the
urban
infill
projects
and
the
goals
for
the
creation
of
public
space.
G
Are
you
looking
at
strategies
to
improve
pops
so
privately
owned
public
spaces,
as
well
as
maybe
vertical
integration
of
city
parks
and
privately
owned,
say
underground
parking,
just
wondering
about
some
of
the
thinking
on
that.
H
This
question
is
the
question
that
I
think
all
of
us
would
have
something
to
layer
on
to
maybe
I'll
just
start
and
then
I'll
kick
it
over
to
don
and
lily
for
sure.
With
respect
to
pops.
H
Yes-
and
you
know
what
I
didn't
have
that
in
my
presentation,
but
we
actually
are
developing
pops
guidelines
for
ottawa
that
we
brought
forward
next
year,
hopefully
before
the
end
of
the
term
of
council,
we've
been
relatively
unsuccessful
in
securing
pops
in
our
in
our
developments
up
until
about
maybe
two
years
and
lily
could
probably
elaborate
more
on
that.
H
Probably
many
of
you
participate
in
that
process
or
aware
of
what
I'm
talking
about
so
we're
leveraging
that
plan
with
our
developer
review
process
with
the
guidelines
that
we're
under
development
to
examine
where
we
can
seek
these
out
don
and
lilly.
I
don't
really
want
to
layer
on
anything
more
onto
that
from
your
perspectives.
E
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that's
that's
the
critical
points
court.
Certainly
the
there
are
policies
in
the
the
op
that
speak
to
the
importance
of
pops,
especially
in
some
of
our
you
know.
In
the
downtown
areas,
for
instance,
it's
gonna
be
difficult
to
get
acquire
land
for
larger
parks,
so
I
think
they
they
form
a
key
part
of
our
strategy
to
you
know
make
our
our
intensifying
areas
more
livable.
E
It
was
a
big
thing
we
heard
through
the
op
and
how
that
contributes
to
you
know
the
creation
of
15,
minute,
neighbors
and
so
on
so
agree
highly
important,
and
certainly
there
have
been
some
successes.
I
think
there
is
room
for
improvement
and
I'll
leave
it
till
they'll
leave.
She
has
anything
to
add.
J
Thank
you
don
court.
Something
to
add
us.
The
in
addition
to
there
are
a
few
examples
that
are
we're
able
to
achieve.
You
know
a
certain
level
of
the
pop
with
works
and
collaboration
fund
courts
and
at
the
horse
shop
and
also
the
another
player
is
the
our
parks
and
the
recreation
planning
team
in
terms
of
their
overall
concept
of
vision,
of
green
space,
recreational
space
provided
for
either
a
community
area
or
the
city-wide
as
well.
A
C
Just
before
I
get
to
the
next
question,
I
I
have
an
inkling
that
most
of
the
stuff
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight
are
going
to
be
planning
related.
Does
anyone
just
buy
a
show
of
actual
hand,
have
a
question
related
to
building
code
services
or
building
permits.
C
Oh,
you
guys
do
okay,
okay,
so
richard
I
was
trying
to
see.
If
I
could
let
you
go
but
you're
out
of
luck.
Okay,
so
we'll
go
on
to
alien
duncan.
F
Thanks
so
much
for
your
presentations
tonight,
everyone-
I
actually
had
just
a
couple
comments
for
mr
curry,
so
the
first
section
I
wanted
to
comment
on
was
about
the
maintenance
standards.
I
think
it's
important
that
you're
revising
those
and
I
wanted
to
draw
your
attention
to
two
items:
one
being
urban
trees,
so
you
may
know
urban
trees
are
often
injured
by
maintenance
vehicles.
F
So
I
encourage
you
to
ensure
there's
a
good
buffer
zone
around
the
physical
trunk
of
the
tree,
but
also
keep
in
mind
the
root
systems
which
expand
at
least
as
far
as
the
drip
line
of
the
canopy.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
The
second
section
you
mentioned
graffiti
removal,
my
personal
opinion,
sophisticated
cities,
have
a
good
graffiti
management
strategy
that
involves
appreciating
the
creativity
that
goes
into
some
of
the
street
art.
F
In
terms
of
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
more
from
a
reconciliation-based
view,
culture
and
land
are
inextricable,
they're,
they're
very
related,
and
so
I
encourage
you
to
ensure
there's.
Some
connectivity
between
preserving
ecosystems
and
important
land
bases
is
as
part
of
that
strategy.
Thanks
so
much.
C
All
right
is
there
any
question
there,
eileen
or
just
just.
It
was
just
a
comment.
Okay,
perfect!
Well,
not
perfect,
but
you
know
what
I
mean:
move
on
to
shannon
bassett.
K
Hi,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
presentations.
I
had
a
question
for
court.
I
I
just
it's
a
two-part
question
and
you
had
mentioned
that
you
had.
I
guess
the
city
had
received
sizable
funding
from
it
for
infrastructure,
and
I
was
just
wondering
who
was
that
from
was
that
from
infrastructure,
canada,
actually
maybe
I'll
I'll
pause
on
that
question
and
get
the
answer
before
moving
forward.
If
you
could
just
kind
of
elaborate
on
who
who
the
funding
was
for
for
for
infrastructure.
H
It
was
federal
government
funding
a
channel
through
the
province
for
tactical
public
realm
projects,
so
funding
the
wayfinding
signs
funding
the
two
washrooms
fed
dev
ontario
has
al
also
released
back
in
the
late
summer,
a
similar
stream
for
for
public
realm
improvements.
The
city
put
forward
about
15
million
dollars
of
projects
throughout
ottawa
to
improve
public
realm
streetscapes
and
villages,
town,
suburban
town,
centers
and
urban
cores,
and
we
have
not
heard
back
yet
on
that
one.
Although
we're
an
ongoing
dialogue,
so
we're
hopeful.
H
Thanks
chair,
that
was
actually
the
first
one
you're
right
that
was
the
name
was
isip
was
the
first
one
and
the
second
one
I
may
have
them
reversed.
Maybe
the
canadian
resiliency
fund
I'm
happy
to
provide
some
clarity
afterwards
to
the
committee
members.
I
apologize
for
jumbling
the
names.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
I
I
guess
that
leads
to
my
question
in
terms
of
kind
of
improvements
in
the
urban
realm.
I
you
talked
about
signage.
I
think
street
furniture
and
wayfinding,
and
I
was
I
was
hoping
to
hear
that
there
was
also
kind
of
green
infrastructure
within
that,
and
so
I
think
again
my
I
know
that
there's
been
a
significant
amount
of
funding
released
from
infrastructure,
canada,
specifically
for
green
infrastructure,
and
it's
it's
been
a
question.
K
I've
been
asking
at
several
of
these
meetings,
even
with
respect
to
like
the
official
plan.
I
know
that
it's
a
goal
to
integrate
more
performative
kind
of
ecological
or
green
infrastructure
into
the
city,
but
to
kind
of
understand
you
know,
is
that
being
done
or
in
fact,
what
are
the
more
of
the
opportunities
to
do
it?
You
know,
on
view
of
again,
I
just
use
the
example
in
my
my
own
neighborhood
but
central
park
in
the
glebe.
It
experiences
seasonal
flooding,
it
was
born.
K
It
was
built
in
a
flood
plain
or
a
wetland,
but
it
just
seems
like
there
continues
to
be
kind
of
a
heavy-handed,
gray
infrastructure
approach,
whereas
I
think
that
we
can
look
to
best-case
practices
in.
Even
you
know,
scandinavian
winter
cities
who
are
engaging,
you
know
green
infrastructure
as
part
of
their
public
realm,
but
there
are
also
places
so
they're
performative
for
storm
water
management.
K
It's
in
ecological
services,
but
also
offering
you
know,
places
for
social
gatherings
right
or-
and
so
maybe
the
last
part
of
that
comment
is
I
mean
I
know,
there's
been
specific
pilot
projects.
I
think
on
sunnyside
ave
in
ottawa
south,
but
you
know,
maybe
we
could
continue
to
kind
of
develop
from
these
pilot
projects
and
incentivize.
K
You
know
implementation
or
again
loose
it
like,
as
we've
done
with
the
pop-ups,
like
in
public
spaces,
loosen
up
the
zoning
to
allow
people
to
further
our
developers
to
implement
that
thanks.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
shannon
carolyn
mckenzie.
L
Great
thanks
chair.
Thank
you
for
all
the
presentations.
I
I
guess
I
don't
know
when
the
the
next
pac
committee
meeting
is
going
to
be
maybe
under.
A
H
L
Yeah,
perfect,
okay,
so
I'll
try
and
I'll
try
and
narrow
my
questions
a
little
bit,
but
I
did
have
a
few
questions
about
some
of
the
work
streams
and
I
think
probably
these
could
fall
under
your
purview
dawn.
So
I'm
wondering
you
mentioned
the
quick
hits
report
and
I
think
I
saw
that
it
was
completed
in
june
of
this
year-
is
that
if
I
got
that
right.
E
Yeah,
that's
correct.
It
dealt
largely
with
the
sort
of
administrative
parts
of
the
bylaw
collapse
collapsed.
Some
sub
zones
together
definitions.
That
kind
of
thing
was
it's
kind
of
a
I'd,
characterize
it
as
some
housekeeping,
but
I
could
send
you
a
link
to
that.
If
you're
interested.
L
Okay
yeah,
so
my
my
next
question
was:
I
was
wondering
when
it
was
going
to
be
made
public
and
what
the
plan
was
for
public
engagement
now,
if
it's
very,
if
it's
mostly
technical
and
nothing
substantive,
nothing
that
anyone
would
need
to
pay
attention
to
or
be
you
know
to
think
about,
but
it
was
it
was
mentioned.
I
thought
the
description
indicated
something
a
little
bit
more
substantive
earlier.
But
if
it's,
if
that's
not
the
case,
then
then
that's
that's
fine.
E
Yeah,
no,
I
I
think
it
was
exactly
that
very
technical
nature.
I
think
perhaps
the
you
know
we're
gonna
bring
forward
building
on
the
op
language,
a
big
moves
report
on
on
the
zoning
in
in
2022
early
2022..
So
I
think,
that's
probably
more
of
what
you're
interested
in
would
be
interested
in
in
terms
of
those
sort
of
key
directions,
building
on
the
op
and
that
I
believe,
that's
q2
2022,
so
that
that
could
be
a
topic
for
our
next.
L
L
Okay,
so
so
the
big
news
report
now,
I
think
that
originally
had
a
had
a
a
timeline
or
a
scheduled
date
of
arrival
in
q3
2021.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
I'm
wondering
what
the
delay
is,
what
what
what's
the
source
of
the
delay,
and
should
we
be
concerned
about
that,
I
guess.
E
Yeah,
no,
that
that's
really
a
function
of
the
the
delay
in
the
official
plan.
The
official
plan
was
pushed
back,
so
it
was
felt
it
wasn't
reasonable
to
you
know,
bring
forward
the
zoning
big
moves
until
the
op
was
in
place.
So
it's
strictly
a
function
of
the
extra
time
that
was
added
to
the
official
plan
process
to
allow
for
that
extra
engagement,
the
just
the
digesting
the
you
know
the
huge
volume
of
information.
E
So
it
was
strictly
a
function
of
pushing
the
op
back
that
it
thereby
pushed
the
the
zoning
report
back.
L
Okay,
was
it
at
the
end
of
the
day?
Was
the
op
delayed
by
more
than
a
month,
or
maybe
I'm?
Maybe
I'm
not
recalling
it
correctly.
It
just
seemed
like
this
is
about
a
quarter,
quarter,
delay
and
where's.
The
op
was,
I
know
I
realize
it
was
delayed,
but.
E
I
just
yeah
scott,
I
think
scott
could
correct
me.
I
think
it
was.
It
was
more
something
in
the
line
of
a
six
week
delay
I'd
have
to.
I
have
to
pull
it
seems
like
a
long
time
ago
now,
but
and
and
then
we
we
do
need
also.
You
know,
minister
minister
ministry
approval.
Yes,.
A
A
L
Yeah,
okay
and
then
there
were
two
other
pieces
that
that
were
mentioned,
but
I
don't
see
them
in
the
20
in
in
what
the
presentations
that
were
discussed
tonight,
which
and
those
were
there-
were
themed
discussion
or
approach
papers
and
those,
I
think
were
meant
to
have
landed
in
q2
2021.
L
As
for,
I
think,
what
council
approved
back
in
january
and
also
the
comparative
review,
although
I
think
it
may
have
been
referred
to
as
a
best
practice
report
in
your
presentation
tonight,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
different
nomenclature
there
and
that
was
meant
to
be
q3
20
20
21
respectively.
So
both
of
those
were
meant
to
land
on
or
before
the
official
plan,
and
I'm
just
wondering
what's
happening
with
those
and
and
what
the
plan
is
for
public
engagement
on
those.
E
Yes,
so
we
have,
we
did
require,
retain
a
consultant
that
that
did
that
best
practice
review
for
us
we're
just
digesting
that
report
now.
So
I
think
that'll
that
will
be
released
at
some
point
I'll
check
with
mr
wise
on
timing.
It
will,
I
think
it
will
be
part
of
and
inform
the
the
big
moves
report,
but
I
can
get
back
to
you
on
a
more
specific
time
frame
for
that.
L
Right,
okay-
and
I
guess
I
guess
one
other
piece
that
I
wanted
to
mention-
and
I
at
the
risk
of
again
sort
of
sounding
off
on
the
same
issue
with
the
modeling
report,
the
implementation
modeling
report
that
I
and
others
had
been
had
been
asking
for,
and
it
was
released
in
july.
There's
no
mention
of
it
here
and
I'm
wondering
other
than
releasing
it
and
putting
it
up
on
the
website.
L
I
just
wanted.
I
guess
to
note
that
I
don't
believe
there
was
anything
other
than
the
post
to
the
engagement
ottawa
website.
I
don't
believe
there
was
any
any
other
public
consultation
or
discussion
of
of
that
in
terms
of
the
public,
any
public
engagement
that
is-
and
I
think
that's
a.
L
E
E
So
in
early
in
2022
there
will
be
a
full
report
on
on
monitoring,
enhanced
monitoring,
additional
resources
for
all
the
you
know,
I
I
would
say
monitoring
was
one
of
the
you
know,
one
of
the
the
top
10
themes
we
probably
heard
in
the
op.
Is
you
know
we
need
to
do
a
a
more
impulsive
job
and-
and
you
know
in
terms
of
our
monitoring
approach
and.
L
E
Yeah,
I
know
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
a
critical
piece
in
terms
of
you
know
the
engagement.
That's
going
to
happen.
You
know
on
a
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
basis.
You
know
there
are.
We
do
need
to
achieve
certain
density.
Chart
targets,
there's
different
ways
to
do
it.
We
saw
like
a
a
version
of
the.
E
E
Maybe
I'll
I'm
getting
an
unstable,
unstable
internet
connection,
so
I'll
turn
off
my
video
for
a
sec
yeah,
no
apologies!
You
know
that
that
sort
of
that
modeling
approach
is
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
our
our
consultation
and
community
engagement
on
the
new
zoning
bylaw.
In
terms
of
you
know
those
choices
and
and
where
you
know
those
that
higher
amount
of
intensification
is
going
to
happen
so
very
much
so.
L
Okay,
I
think
that's
I'll
leave
it
to
others.
I
don't
want
to
take
just
one
request.
Scott
you
mentioned
chair.
You
mentioned
that
we
did
get
this
slide
deck
this
afternoon,
but
it's
just
a
few
hours
ago.
I
didn't
have
time
to
look
at
it
before
the
meeting.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
reason
why
it
can't
be
sent
out
even
just
a
few
days
in
advance,
so
that
we
can
have
a
look
at
it
and
be
a
little
better
informed.
L
C
Yeah
I
spoke
to
kelly
about
that
last
week
about
trying
to
get
stuff
out
as
quickly
as
it
was
available.
I
I'm
not
certain
to
be
honest
if
the
presentation
was
available
before
today,
because
I
got
it,
I
got
it
today
for
the
first
time
too
so
yeah.
Ideally,
we've
talked
to
this
before
we
want
staff
getting
stuff
ready
as
as
early
as
possible,
so
it
can
be
shared
sooner
than
the
day
of
so
just
kind
of
taking
that
away
again.
C
L
Thanks
I'll,
let
others
get
in
there
thanks.
A
Likewise,
I
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
presentation,
and
you
know
I
find
myself
at
a
disadvantage
to
some
extent,
because
I
can't
comment
on
all
the
projects
that
I
have
been
done
and
are
underway,
because
I
I
just
don't
have
the
background.
Nor
do
I
have.
I
see
any
of
those
projects
delineating
in
such
a
way
that
I
can
comment
on
them.
So
I.
A
I
would
note,
though,
that
I'm
sure
that
the
efforts
to
put
online
the
land
management
system
must
have
been
you
know
challenging
at
best,
but
I'm
sure
that
the
folks
that
are
going
to
be
using
it
going
forward
are
going
to
benefit
from
it.
My
question
is
more
for
dawn
for
dan.
A
I
didn't
hear
from
him
and
I'm
hoping
that
there
is
a
consolidated
economic
plan
to
effort
to
incentivize
the
small
businesses
post
cobit,
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
has
made
any
any
comments
or
has
declared
any
package
of
this
nature.
And
can
you
is
there
a
willingness
to
do
to
go
forward
with
you
know
some
sort
of
an
incentive
package?
A
E
Sorry,
I
don't
know
if
it
was
your
internet
or
or
mine,
but
I
only
heard
part
of
what
you
said
there
so.
C
That's
given
any
incentives
for
small
businesses
coming
out
of
covet,
I
I
will
just
say
we
did
just
approve
a
small
business
property
tax
subclass
at
council
recently,
which
will
see
a
reduction
in
taxes
for
small
businesses.
I
can
share
that
with
you
tom,
if
you'd
like
to
to
have
a
look
at
it.
Yeah.
C
E
Yeah,
so
certainly
the
small
business
tax
relief
is,
is
you
know,
fresh
off
council
and
that's,
you
know
been
very
well
received.
We
are
providing
a
lot
of
other
supports
in
terms
of
you
know
our
work
and
the
board
of
trade.
In
terms
of
helping
you
know,
businesses
adjust.
E
You
know
the
digital
main
street
programs
there's
a
variety
of
initiatives.
We
do
work
closely
with
the
business
improvement
areas,
the
business
association's
board
of
trade,
but,
in
terms
of
you
know
a
financial
impact,
I
would
say
the
the
the
tax
relief
that
just
was
approved
by
council
would
be
the
the
top
top
item.
A
C
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
I
know
you
don't
want
to
be
called
chair,
but
richard
first
off
I
want
to
apologize.
I
actually
don't
have
a
question
for
you.
I
just
had
some
some
thank
yous
and
some
comments.
I
wanted
to
pass
on
from
the
greater
ottawa
home
builder.
So
you
know
I
just
I
think
you
all
know
I'm
the
president
of
the
greater
auto
home
builders
and-
and
we
are
in
a
housing,
affordability,
crisis,
there's,
there's
no
one
federally
provincially
or
locally.
B
That's
denying
that
we
aren't
in
a
housing,
affordability,
crisis
and
there's
been
dozens
of
land
economic,
economic
specialists
in
the
last
six
months
to
12
months.
That
have
said
the
only
way
we're
going
to
get
out
of
this
housing
affordability
crisis
and
to
solve
the
housing
demand
is
to
supply
more
land.
We
need
to.
We
need
to
build
more
homes,
we
need
to
supply
more
more
houses
for
residents
or
or
the
crisis
is
going
to
get
worse
so
locally.
What
we
need
to
do
is
to
work
with
all
the
politicians.
B
We
need
to
work
with
all
the
community
groups
and,
of
course
we
want.
We
need
to
work
with
staff,
so
I
just
want
to
say
on
behalf
of
goal,
but
I
think
I
think
the
record
amount
of
applications
that
you
know
richard
and
and
core
and
lilly
were
just
talking
about
about
that's
a
direct
link
to
housing
demand
and
I
just
want
to
say
on
on
behalf
of
gold.
I
want
to
thank
richard
for
everything
you've
done
in
building
code
services
to
to
process
this
record
amount
of
applications.
B
You
know
lily,
congratulations,
you
and
I
have
worked
together
for
many
years
now
and
you
know-
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
future
applications,
manor
park
and
many
others,
and
thank
you
to
you
and
your
team
for
for
the
record
amount
of
applications
that
you
have
all
processed
and
court
same
thing.
You
and
I
have
talked
on
many
occasions
and
thanks
for
everything
you're
doing
with
it
right
away
and
with
the
permits,
the
heritage
permits
and
the
urban
design
review
panel.
So
please,
on
behalf
of
goba.
B
Please
thank
your
team.
We
need.
We
need
your
help
to
continue
to
grow
the
city
and
to
provide
housing
supply.
And
lastly,
I
do
have
a
question
so
I
apologize
for
taking
everyone's
time
tonight,
but,
lastly
don
you
know.
I
know
I
know
I
know
I've
said
to
you
and
jason
and
others
have
said
to
you.
B
You
know
I
guess.
First
off
is
congratulations
to
to
you
and
your
team,
and-
and
thank
you
I
know-
goldba
didn't
always
agree
on
everything
that
in
the
official
plan
and
but
the
end
of
the
day,
what
an
amazing
milestone
for
you
and
your
team
and
for
the
city
of
ottawa-
and
I
I
know
everyone
was
giving
you
kudos
at
at
council
and
through
all
the
delegations,
but
I
think
as
as
a
resident
and
a
taxpayer.
B
Thank
you
thank
you
for
the
direction
you're
taking
us
in
the
city
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
this
implemented
in
the
years
to
come.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
say
all
that
I
just
I
have
one
quick
question.
I
have
one
suggestion.
My
question
is
for
you,
don
and
just
just
around
the
whole
land
supply
lens
that
that
we're
having
issues
with
we
know
the
official
plans
gonna
get
the
bylaw
will
be
passed
at
council.
B
It's
going
to
go
to
the
province,
hopefully
120
days
and
then
we'll
get
through
the
the
appeal
process
at
the
provincial
level.
When
can
expansion
lands
begin
the
terms
of
reference
process?
We
we
need,
we
desperately
need
more
land
supply,
and
we
know
a
secondary,
planned
process
needs
the
terms
of
reference
to
move
forward.
B
C
E
Thanks
for
the
question
david
and
thanks
for
those
kind
remarks
that
you
know
really
go
across
the
corporation
to
many
teams
and
groups,
including
courts
and
the
leasing
and
many
others
in
terms
of
secondary
planning
for
expansion
areas,
you
know,
I
think
some
are
probably
you
know
waiting
until
you
know
the
minister
weighs
in
others.
I
know
are
starting
to
work
on
on
terms
of
reference.
E
I
would
say
the
the
the
work
plan
report
that
I
mentioned
that
will
come
forward
will
will
be
critical
in
terms
of
you
know,
timing
and
when
they
can
proceed
a
lot
of
that
work.
You
know,
there's
lead
up,
work
and
studies.
E
You
know
that
will
have
to
happen
before
the
community
design
plan
secondary
plan
process
starts.
So
there's
no.
You
know,
I
know
for
one
area
already
we're
all
already
into
it
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
reviewing
and
commenting
and
trying
to
come
up
with
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
various
studies
that
have
to
happen.
So,
let's
I
guess
it's
really
a
case
by
case
basis
and
then
the
we
did
receive
a
couple
directions
in
terms
of
priorities
from
council
through
the
official
plan.
E
So
those
of
course
will
have
you
know
a
higher
priority
for
the
reasons
you
know
that
council
directed,
but
that
that
work
plan
report
will
be,
I
think,
critical
in
terms
of
you
know,
for
you
know
there,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
can
happen.
You
know
on
on
the
private
side.
You
know
in
advance
of
that
secondary
planning
process
as
well.
So
I
would,
I
would
reach
out,
and
we
can
we
can
have.
B
Perfect,
thank
you.
Thank
you
don.
I
I
I
thought
that
probably
was
going
to
be
your
response,
which
then
I
want
to
lead
into
my
suggestion
and
counselor
moffitt.
I,
if
I
can
ask
you,
I
don't
know
what
the
right
protocol
is
because
we're
an
advisory
board.
B
So
we're
supposed
to
be
advising,
I
believe,
council
on
suggestions
or
anything
along
planning
matters
and
and
one
element
that
really
caught
my
my
year
through
the
through
the
council
deliberations,
was
that
the
2022
work
plan
was
most
likely
going
to
be
deferred
until
after
the
next
municipal
election,
which
is,
as
we
know,
is
11
months
from
now.
B
So
just
a
suggestion
is
there
any?
Is
there
any
way
that
some
of
the
more
critical
work
plan
items
specifically
around
affordable
housing
or
housing,
affordability,
which
I
think
majority
of
the
residents
of
the
city
of
ottawa
ottawa
are
behind
to
fix?
Is
there
any
way
that
there
could
be
a
portion
of
the
2022
work
plan
that
could
go
ahead
in
early
2022
and
not
be
kicked?
Kicked
past
the
next
municipal
election?
Again,
it's
just
a
suggestion.
B
I,
like
I'm,
not
I'm
not
here,
to
pretend
I'm
a
politician,
I'm
just
I'm
just
here
to
to
just
hopefully
use
some
common
sense
that
we
really
need
housing.
We
need
housing.
If
we
don't
have
housing,
prices
will
continue
to
increase
and
that
gap
between
a
first-time
home
buyer
and
people
that
need
subsidized
housing
is
only
going
to
get
bigger,
so
we're
all
in
this
together.
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
provide
supply
to
help
the
affordability
crisis,
we're
all
in.
C
Yeah
I
can
take
that
conversation
away
and
talk
to
don
and
steve
willis
and
obviously
look
at
the
other
chair
of
planning
here
today.
Glenn
gower
as
well-
and
we
can
have
that
discussion-
I
mean
it's
not
like
our
planning
group-
is-
is
planning
on
doing
nothing
in
2022.
It's
not
necessarily
the
election.
That's
the
issue!
It's
it's!
C
There's
a
lot
on
that
work
plan
from
from
what
we
just
finished
up
with
the
official
plan
and
obviously,
we've
been
very
sort
of
adamant
about
official
plan
implementation
and
that
process,
starting
as
soon
as
possible.
So
there's
a
lot
on
there
on
their
plate
right
now,
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
matter
of
pushing
things
off
because
the
election,
it's
just
that,
there's
other
things
on
on
going
on.
So
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
don
and
steve
and
and
see
more
about
exactly
what
the
plan
is
and
go
forward
from
there.
C
Thank
you
muhammad.
D
Thank
you,
scott,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
at
the
city
for
your
presentations.
Very
you
know,
really
exciting
and
we're
all
very
I'm
very
proud
to
see
all
the
excellent
work
and
all
the
initiatives
that
have
been
kind
of
coming
underway.
D
Thank
you
for
meeting
with
us
at
such
a
late
hour
as
well,
and
in
addition
to
all
your
busy
schedules
with
that
said,
I
will
echo
what
carolyn
mentioned
earlier
about
the
kind
of
importance
actually
of
receiving
presentations
ahead
of
time-
and
I
would
say
you
know
a
week
is-
is
good.
Two
weeks
is
better
a
lot
of
us
here.
Are
I
mean
this
is
a
societal
cross-section,
there's
people
who
are
in
the
business
I'm
here
representing
the
oaa.
D
I
know
carolyn's
involved
with
community
groups
who
has
a
background
as
well,
and
so
can
we
can
kind
of
jump
into
these
topics
really
quickly?
There
are
others,
potentially
on
the
board
as
well
on
this
committee,
who
might
take
this
presentations
and
discuss
them
with
others
and
really
kind
of
solicit
feedback
and
and
input,
and
that
would
include
myself.
D
I
would
like
to
have
the
opportunity
to
take
this
and
discuss
it
with
my
colleagues
as
well
and
get
their
feedback,
so
I'm
not
just
talking
about
my
own
personal
opinions
that
I'm
kind
of
here
to
represent
a
larger
community,
so
I
would
say
for
sure,
be
great
to
you
know.
We
all
need
deadlines
and
just
give
ourselves
a
deadline
of
two
weeks
before
any
pac
meeting,
that
the
presentation
should
be
prepared
and
distributed
to
get
the
most
out
of
our
time
and
and
your
time
as
well.
D
But
thank
you
very
much
for
for
that.
I
will
start
with
just
a
question
to
richard.
Well,
it's
actually,
let's
say
I'll
put
it
out
there
in
general.
We're
in
the
midst
of
you
know
the
glasgow
climate
summit.
D
Well,
I
haven't
heard
anything
in
any
of
the
presentations.
This
talks
to
the
climate
crisis
so
really,
and
that's
not
to
say
that
there's
nothing
happening,
but
we
all
know
that
planning.
You
know:
cities
the
planning
of
cities,
housing
code,
related
issues,
infrastructure.
That
has
you
know
I
think.
Well,
I
know
my
industry
is
the
third
largest
polluter
as
far
as
carbon
goes.
So
it's
a
fairly
it's.
D
You
know
the
two
go
hand
in
hand
how
we
plan
our
cities
and
how
we
plan
for
how
we
regulate
our
buildings
and
how
we
regulate
growth
plays
a
really
major
role
and
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
tackle
this
climate
crisis,
and
I
find
it
a
bit
strange
that,
with
this
said
that
we
haven't
heard
about
how
a
lot
of
the
city
initiatives
are
directly
addressing
climate
again,
there
are
peripheral
kind
of
relationships
and
I'm
sure
there
are
projects
that
you
haven't
mentioned,
which
which,
which
are
you
know,
aiming
to
to
tackle
those.
D
But
I
would
say
that
you
know
myself.
I
would
be
very
interested
to
really
hear
about
how
the
city
is
is
tackling
this
crisis
firsthand
with
respect
to
code,
for
example
richard.
I
know
that
some
municipalities,
I
know
vancouver,
has
recently
said
that
starting
in
2022
there's
going
to
be
a
moratorium
on
fossil
fuel,
fired
appliances
for
all
new
belts
and
renovations.
D
So
that's
you
know
again:
they're
leveraging
their
clean
energy
grid,
they're,
making
sure
that
whatever
growth
happens
in
the
future
is
going
to
make
use
of
a
carbon
free
or
a
carbon.
You
know
highly
carbon
positive
kind
of
power
grid.
I
know
toronto
are
also
considering
similar
in
some
areas
or
considering
some
what's
ottawa,
doing
with
respects,
to
building
codes
and
kind
of
trying
to
you
know
in
between
the
nbc
and
and
at
the
municipal
level.
How
are
we
really
pushing
this?
D
What
really
seems
like
a
tremendous
you
know
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
growth,
we're
hearing
about
all
these.
You
know
massive
increases
in
applications.
How
are
we
leveraging
that
to
make
sure
that
actually,
we,
you
know
we're
we're
ending
up
in
the
right
place
and
we're
not
just
piling
up
on
these
developments
and
these
homes
and
houses
and
high
rises
that
are
just
piling
up
more
carbon
and
making
things
worse
for
us.
I
Well,
thanks
mod
for
the
question,
and
I
can
I
can
speak,
you
know
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
I
think
I'll
defer
a
lot
of
it
to
don.
Is
that?
Is
it
your
group,
that's
sort
of
yeah,
so
we're,
as
you
know,
I
guess
we're
we
don't
advocate
in
a
sense:
that's
not
our
rules,
not
our
mandate.
I
mean
we
take
our
direction
from
the
building
code
and
the
building
code
is
up
for
comment
right
now.
I
It's
been
circulated
for
the
next
round
of
comments,
and
you
know
we
have
a
team
working
on
that
right
now.
So
I'm
not.
I
can't
speak
to
exactly
where
what
is
potentially
coming
through
from
a
provincial
level,
and
but
if
the
past
is
any
prediction
that's
been,
I
guess
the
number
one
item
that
has
dominated
any
sort
of
code
updates
over
the
last
few
years
is
is
a
continual
energy
efficiency
and
I
think
you're
speaking
a
little.
I
You
know
more
broadly
than
that,
but
I
will
turn
it
over
to
dawn
because
there
is
a.
There
is
a
group
that
we
are
we
are
feeding
into,
but
the
the
push
is
coming
from
from
dawn's
group.
E
Thank
you
thanks
richard
I'm
just
gonna
turn
my
camera
off
because
I
think
my
connection
is
still
a
little
unstable.
So
hopefully
this
works
better
than
the
last
response.
Yeah
and
and
that's
for
muhammad.
We
actually,
you
know
last
night
had
a
presentation
at
our
environmental
stewardship
advisory
committee
and-
and
you
know,
climate
change
and
energy
evolution
was
a
big
topic
of
discussion.
So
you
know,
I
suppose
it
does
across
every
committee
now
and
but
you
know,
certainly
it's
there's
a
lot
going
on.
E
Building
on
on
richard's
comments,
yeah,
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
things
underway:
we're
developing
high
performance
development
standards
for
for
new
construction
to
ensure
you
know
that
our
new
builds
are
energy
efficient
and
you
know
reducing
you
know,
emissions
such
that
we
will
achieve
our
our
targets
in
time.
We
have
a
building
better
homes,
loan
program.
That's
that's
dealing
with
retrofits
of
existing
homes,
making
them
more
energy
efficient.
It's
recently
been
released,
we're
also
looking
at
a
commercial
building
program,
pursuing
funding
opportunities
for
those.
E
In
other
initiatives
I
could
go
on.
You
know
a
green
bus,
electric
bus
acquisitions
and
so
on,
and
I
think
that
would
you
know
that
would
be
a
a
couple
more
hours
of
discussion,
but
you
know
happy
to
point
you
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
there.
There's
there's
been
some
reports
and.
D
Yeah
that'd
be
great,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
really
more
when
I
heard
about
what
you
know
the
plans
for
vancouver,
and
obviously
it's
not
going
to
be
without
a
backlash
that
you
know
just
to
say
that
there
there
are
no
more
fossil
fuel
appliances
period
and
that's
it
and
it's
just
kind
of
foot
down
crisis
and
let's
kind
of
find
kind
of
ways
to
deal
with
it
and
again,
whether
or
not
that's
that's
something
that
ottawa
is
considering,
but
it
you
know,
it's
it'll,
be
great
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
this
remains
on
agendas
and
topics
and
discussions,
because
it's,
I
think
something
that
everyone
is
really
where
we're
all
looking
to
our
leaders
to
kind
of
see
how.
D
How
that
how
that
translates-
and
it's
again,
like
you,
said
it's
something
that
crosses
every
path:
it's
not
just
kind
of
zoning
or
kind
of
bylaw
or
public
space
and
planning.
I
mean
even
you
know,
with
respect
to
david's
comments
about
affordability.
You
know:
can
we
afford
to
expand,
or
should
we
be
looking
at?
D
Actually,
you
know
consuming
less
land
and
densifying
in
areas
and
but
again
the
question
of
affordability
remains
up
there
and
remains
something
that
is
very
important
and
needs
to
be
addressed,
but
does
it
have
to
be
at
the
cost
of
expansion
and
more
cars?
And,
more
more,
you
know
more
carbon
in
the
air
to
get
to
where
you
need
to,
because
affordability
can
be
translated
into
going
further
and
further
out
of
the
city
to
be
able
to
afford
something.
D
So
it's
I
think
it's
an
important
topic,
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
kind
of
maybe
even
at
every
planning
session
should
be
able
to
kind
of
hear
some
of
the
initiatives
that
are
being
taken
and
things
that
the
city
are.
D
You
know
moves
that
the
city
are
making
in
order
to
address
this
this
climate
crisis,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
gonna
kind
of
move
on
to
something
else
again
back
to
richard
as
far
as
codes
are
concerned,
so
you
know
there's
with
this
increase
in
applications,
I'm
assuming
that
your
your
teams
are
stretched,
you're,
really
kind
of
working.
You
know,
in
addition
to
the
challenges
by
you
know,
facing
you
with
remote
work
and
and
covet
and
whatnot.
D
You
have
all
these.
You
know
a
giant
increase
in
applications.
How
is
the,
how
is
the
follow-up
and
the
post
application
process
in
terms
of
site,
reviews
or
kind
of
follow-up
on?
You
know
if
there's
any
special
amendments
or
special
kind
of
arrangements
that
are
being
made
to
obtain
permits
or
to
obtain
zoning
amendments?
J
I
Okay,
yeah,
I
know
for
sure,
that's
you
know
covet,
has
has
given
us
all
a
challenge.
No
doubt
you
hit
it
on
the
head
with
your
comments
and
you
know
we're
all.
I
think
we're
all
taking
in
lessons
learned
from
this,
and
we
have
an
ongoing
structural
review
going
on
presently
and
you
know:
there'll
be
hybrid
models.
There'll
be
different
things
that
we're
we're
looking
at,
but
we're
we're
we're
still,
basically
in
it
and
we're
just
trying
to.
I
We
are
a
little
bit
more
reactionary
right
now
we're
trying
to
meet
the
demand
the
best
way
we
can,
and
so
I
don't
really
have
anything
new
to
add
exactly
that.
There's
anything
ongoing
but
other
than
you
know.
We're
going
to
you
know,
take
lessons
learned
out
of
this
and
see
where
it
takes
us.
D
I
have
a
question
for
court
and
when
it
just
with
relation
to
the
design
guidelines,
you
mentioned
that
there's
low-rise
design
guidelines
that
are
being
developed
as
well
as
design
guidelines
for
publicly
operated
private
spaces.
How
how
are
these
guidelines
developed?
Maybe
you
can
kind
of
shed
some
light
on
in
terms
of
the
process,
as
this
you
know,
is
there
consultation
with
community
groups?
D
Is
there
consultation
with
professional
associations
and
how
do
you
kind
of
make
sure
that
you're
getting
kind
of
a
fairly
balanced
approach
between
kind
of
procedures
and
operations
that
the
city
needs
to
kind
of
maintain,
but
also
be
able
to
remain
open
and
transparent
to
kind
of
a
wider?
You
know
wider
input
from
the
from
this
from
the
community
and
from
professionals
in
the
community.
H
Thanks
for
the
questions,
it's
a
really
good
one.
You
know
initially,
we
we
had
seen
them
as
technical
documents,
I'm
talking
about
10
years
ago.
They
were
brought
forward
as
as
technical
documents
that
were
generated
by
the
department,
but
we've
seen
the
interest
from
the
community
from
our
stakeholders
to
to
have
more
input
and
more
influence
on
these
guidelines.
So
what
we
do
is
we
have
a
project
manager
on
on
my
team.
H
Typically,
it's
an
architect
or
a
landscape
architect
who
does
an
internal
draft
development
of
the
guidelines
in
consultation
with
with
lily
and
her
staff,
film
review
and
dawn
and
obviously
palsy,
and
then
we
typically
then
fan
out
to
both
residents
and
specific
stakeholders.
Oaa
is
is
one
certainly
that
we'd
want
to
we'd
want
to
liaise
with
high-rise
design
guidelines
we
did
two
years
ago
we
did
a
good
degree
of
stakeholder
engagement.
H
Then
you
probably
recall
low-rise
were
about
to
go
out
in
january
on
muhammad,
so
stay
tuned,
we'll
be
we'll
be
knocking
on
on
various
focuses
stores
and
we're
as
well
as
pops,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
next
up
is
mid-rise
design
guidelines.
We
anticipate
starting
those
at
the
end
of
2022
as
well.
We've
got
about.
D
H
Design
guidelines
dawn's,
given
us
lots
of
work
to
do,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
tune-up
to
be
done.
Some
of
them
are
5-10
years
old,
so
we
will
be
working
on
those
over
the
next
two
three
years,
but
low
rise,
pops
and
mid-rise
are
the
highest
priority
right
now.
D
So
it
is
this:
the
kind
of
little
span
from
it
will
kind
of
you
know,
you'll,
be
able
to
reach
out
to
community
groups
and
be
able
to
kind
of
solicit
feedback
and
input
and
to
kind
of
developing
those
guidelines.
It's
it's
not
going
to
remain
at
the
professional
or
city
level.
H
Absolutely,
as
I
said
10
years
ago,
it
was
it
was
more
of
a
professional
technical
document,
but
we're
not
in
that
game
anymore
and
certainly
there's
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
community.
We
saw
during
the
official
plan
about
low-rise
typology
and
context
and
neighborhood
identity
and
we'll
be
absolutely
doing
a
robust
public
engagement
process
for
the
upcoming
guidelines.
D
It's
great
to
hear
also
that
the
city
is
kind
of
really
considering.
I
think,
we've
all
seen
the
success
of
the
kind
of
streetscapes
and
the
patios
and
the
closure
street
closures.
I
think
everyone
would
agree
that
it's
a
very
positive,
whether
you're
a
business
owner
or
a
resident.
This
is
kind
of
all.
I
would
imagine
kind
of
well
unless
you're
a
resident
unless
you're
a
business
owner
that
depends
on
car
traffic,
everyone
else
would
really
kind
of
appreciate
the
type
of
closures
and
the
type
of
activities
that
you've
been
doing.
D
So
it's
great
to
hear
that
your
group
is
really
looking
at
the
successes
or
let's
say
that
everyone
should
be
looking
at
the
you
know
what
covid
has
brought
in
terms
of
positives
and
in
terms
of
kind
of
shaking
up
the
way
we
work
and
the
way
we
imagine
and
trying
to
kind
of
stick
to
some
of
those
things
moving
forward.
So
that's
kind
of
really
positive
to
hear
that
that
is
an
official
project
that
you're
kind
of
undertaking.
That's
wonderful,.
D
D
Sorry
was
the
the
kind
of
overall,
I
think,
we've
also
with
kobe,
we've
seen
a
tremendous
kind
of
increase
in
the
public's
kind
of
desire
to
be
outside,
to
be
outdoors
to
be
in
nature
and
and
again
back
to
you
know
the
importance
of
pops
and
in
the
city,
but
also
extending
beyond
that
and
trying
to
kind
of
really
expand
the
kind
of
overall
health
and
well-being
of
of
communities
through
providing
kind
of
means.
D
I
guess
sustainable
means
to
allow
everyone
to
kind
of
engage
with
their
kind
of
environment
is
that
is
that
you
know
moving
beyond
the
urban
and
immediate
urban
setting
and
moving,
maybe
into
areas
that
are
maybe
more
naturalized
or
more
kind
of
you
know
less
urban
is
that
is
that
something
an
area
that
falls
under
your
department
as
well?
Looking
at
you
know,
parks
in
general
kind
of
city
parks
in
general
that
fall
outside
an
urban
zone.
H
Good
question
it
it.
It
certainly
crosses
all
three
of
us
on
or
four
of
us
really
on
the
call
tonight
I
think
you
know.
Council
has
been
very
clear
on
its
priorities.
We
didn't
really
get
into
the
city's
strategic
plan
tonight,
but
housing,
affordability,
climate
change,
adaptation,
social
equity,
trees,
all
all
been
raised
by
various
folks
tonight.
Those
have
all
been
top
of
mind
and
are
influential
in
all
the
policy
development
operations.
We
do.
I
alluded
to
the
to
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan
brought
forth
with
eop
last
month.
H
It
certainly
set
priorities
for
for
mike
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
liberty,
but
I
certainly
think
for
development
review
as
well,
for
where
we
are
looking
to
achieve
more
more
recreational
space,
whether
it's
passive
or
programmed
in
in
all
areas
of
ottawa.
H
So
we're
we've
been
fairly
focused
on
the
urban
area,
where
they're
in
on
streets
or
in
areas
where
there
hasn't
been
a
development
application,
but
certainly
we
work
with
lily
and
her
staff
on
identifying
any
spaces
more
and
more
pops,
as
as
we
can
we're
available.
Really.
I
don't
know
whether
you
want
to
layer
under
anything
further.
On
top
of
that
to
be
helpful
for
the
for
the
kitty.
J
Thank
you
coordinator,
thanks
to
mohamed
for
the
question,
so
the
the
work
on
the
development
applications
and
any
other
works
involve
a
lot
of
people
a
lot
of
other
teams
beyond
you
know
four
hours
here
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
one
a
big
player
is
the
parks
and
recreation.
J
But
this
is
a
related
to
the
development
and
they
have
their
own
plans
in
terms
of
providing
city
parks
that
are
all
side
of
the
wellness
applications.
Court
just
mentioned
the
parks.
Recreational
master
plan
was
recently
approved
by
council
and,
to
my
knowledge,
the
park's
parkland
education,
bylaw
is
also
being
will
be
updated
the
next
year
and
will
be
worked
out
as
a
requirement
under
the
planning
act.
D
Is
that
something
that
has
increased
in
funding
as
well
as
that
benefited
from
any
of
the
kind
of
stimulus
that
has
been
injected?
For
you
know,
the
coveted
stimulus
that
you
mentioned
court,
like
is
that
the
parks
and
recreations.
J
D
That
infrastructure
evolved
with
to
increase
in
demand.
I
guess
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
because
it
you
know,
we've
heard
a
lot
about
kind
of
say
on
the
planning
side
of
things
and
the
structured
growth,
but
when
it
just
comes
as
far
as
the
increased
traffic
and
the
kind
of
increased
need
for
these
types
of
spaces
or
demand
for
these
kind
of
spaces,
has
there
been
an
increase
in
the
budgets
to
see
these
environments
grow.
J
That's
a
good
question:
you
know
the
the
funding
is
really
based
on
funding
availability
and
the
different
priorities.
The
exam
parks
master
plan
would
provide
some
directions
on
how
to
prioritize
those
requirements
and
demands.
C
All
right
thanks
and
just
to
your
first
question,
I
I
sent
a
another
email
with
the
better
buildings
ottawa
strategy,
which
kind
of
speaks
to
what
you're
talking
about
the
start.
In
terms
of
more
you
know,
environmental
policy
built
embedded
into
some
of
our
planning
framework.
So
that's
that
comes
through
our
client
resiliency
group,
which
is
under
planning,
but
it
actually
came
through
the
environment
committee.
C
So
I
didn't
share
that
with
you
all
via
email.
A
few
minutes
ago,
carolyn.
L
Great
thanks,
scott
yeah,
just
picking
up
a
bit
on
muhammad's
questions
or
comments
about
the
guidelines,
low
rise
and
god
knows.
I
was
going
to
ask
about
the
mid-rise
guidelines
of
court.
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
that
they're
they're
in
the
they're
in
the
hopper
they
will
be
getting
in
the
hopper
for
2022.
That's
fantastic
yeah.
I
think
just
you
know,
looking
ahead
with
the
official
planning
emphasis
on
corridor
development,
intensification,
that's
we're
really
going
to
need
those
and
we're
really
into
muhammad's
points
as
well.
L
I
think
about
making
sure
that
we
have
a
really
the
public
engagement
and
by
public.
I
I
mean
residents,
I
mean
industry,
I
mean
you
know.
Stakeholders
broadly
are
able
to
weigh
in
and
really
and
really
inform.
Those
guidelines,
I
think
will
be-
will
be
really
important
and
I
guess
just
a
couple
of
things.
I
guess
I
guess.
First
of
all,
and
we
saw
it
a
bit
with
the
official
plan
as
well.
There
were
questions
about
about
the
so
as
we
heard
it.
L
Feedback
from
the
city
regarding
comments
received
about
the
official
plan
and
those
comments,
I
believe
were-
were
largely
or
those
of
residents
community
associations,
but
but
not
so
much
of
industry,
or
at
least
I
didn't
see
what
I,
what
I
would
have
thought
to
have
been
industry
comments
reflected
in
those.
L
So
I
would
really
encourage
the
city-
and
maybe
this
this
is
a
comment
to
go
to
back
to
charmaine
porgy,
about
about
public
engagement
on
this,
and
it's
not
just
a
it's,
not
just
a
higher
mid-rise
guideline
issue.
It's
it's!
It's
anything
where,
where
I
think
the
the
issues
that
are
being
wrestled
with
are
going
to
depend
on
input
from
industry,
architects,
developers
and
so
on,
as
well
as
community
and
residents,
so
I'd
really
encourage
the
city
to
take
that
seriously.
L
Because
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
really
think
it's
important
for
residents
to
understand
what
the
to
be
able
to
think
about
to
understand
what
the
pressure
points
and
the
concerns
are
of
industry,
so
that
we
can.
We
can
understand
the
trade-offs
that
really
must
be
made
when
we're
developing,
whether
it's
zoning
or
guidelines,
or
what
have
you.
I,
I
really
think
that's
important
to
to
be
able
to
really
truly
wrestle
with
the
with
the
issues
and
where
we
land
on
those
on
those
guidelines.
L
So
so
I
I
would
just
that's
a
bit
of
a
plea
or
request
on
that
basis,
both
in
terms
of
the
process,
yes
to
muhammad's,
point
and
point,
involve
the
stakeholders
liberally
and
then
get
the
feedback
and
make
sure
that
people
are
seeing
the
whole
picture,
not
just
their
personal
viewpoint
that
they
come
in
with
can
be
sometimes
a
narrow,
narrow
viewpoint.
So
that's
one
thing
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
is
sort
of
a
question
and
a
comment
and
and
the
guidelines.
L
I
I
think
many
people
look
at
the
city's
guidelines
and
think
they're.
Many
of
them
are
terrific,
whether
it's
traditional
main
street
guidelines
or
or
the
high-rise
guidelines
and
and
so
on.
My
concern
is,
is
just
that
they
are
guidelines
and
I,
as
I've
been
told
well,
as
we
all
know,
they're,
not
the
official
plan
and,
as
I
was
told,
they
are
nice
to
have
they're
simply
nice
to
have-
and
I
guess
my
and
I
guess
a
bit
of
a
question
of
how.
How
do
we
reconcile?
L
I
guess,
the
city's
wanting
to
pursue
high
quality
urban
design
and-
and
I
think
the
guidelines
speak
to
that
intent.
But
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
with
a
specific
planning
application
that
those
are
very
well,
in
my
own
view,
fairly
easily
pushed
aside
and
and
we're
told
that
those
are
those
are
nice
to
have.
L
So
I
think,
there's
both
a
communications
and
expectation
setting
challenge
there,
for
you
know
for
people
who
are
looking
at
a
specific
application
and
looking
to
those
guidelines
to
to
inform
and
anyway
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
into
the
weeds
on
that.
L
But
but
but
I
would
say,
I
think
that's
it's
something
that
that
I
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
or
how
we
get
at
that
to
to
try
and
strengthen
the
standing
of
those
guidelines
and
and
at
the
same
time
manage
people's
expectations
of
those
so
I'll
leave
it
there
and
just
finally
last
question:
maybe
I
was
having
a
senior's
moment
when
dawn
was
answering
my
earlier
questions
about
about
the
big
news
report
and
the
other,
the
the
approach
papers
and
the
comparative
view
when,
when
do,
we
expect
to
see
like
public
consultations,
is
that
a
q3
event?
C
E
C
Thanks
don
shannon.
K
Thanks,
I
just
wanted
to
expand
on
muhammad's
comments.
I
think
that
you
know,
within
the
context
of
designing
our
cities
for
climate
change,
we
can
also
be
looking
at
mitigating
the
kind
of
urban
heat
island
effect,
with
greater
integration
of
like
rewilding
or
biodiversity
into
the
cores
and
I've.
K
And
then
the
other
thing
is,
I
think,
even
at
a
kind
of
regional
scale,
all
the
new
light
rail
transit
lines.
I
think
the
portland
has
a
best
case
practice
where
they've
also
integrated,
obviously
recreational
systems
along
the
light,
the
light
rail
right-of-way,
but
also
animal
habitat
and
corridor.
So
I
think
that
those
are
interesting
case
studies
and
maybe
just
at
a
kind
of
larger.
K
I
mean
in
response
to
carolyn's
comment,
and
I've
mentioned
this
at
numberous-
a
number
of
meetings
in
response
to
the
official
plan
that
you
know
june
dreesen,
the
former
president
of
the
oaa,
the
ontario
association
of
architects,
has
been
really
working
on
developing
a
national
architecture
policy,
as
have
other
colleagues.
K
You
know
looking
at
maybe
reform
to
the
current
procurement
process
of
the
government
level
anyways
where
the
lowest
bid
is
taken-
and
I
know
you
know,
having
visited
waterfront
toronto
a
few
weeks
ago,
which
is
a
both
a
city,
federal
and
provincial
agency-
that
they
are
not
there.
They
they
do
look
for
the
kind
of
top
design
projects.
So
again,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
there's
ways
to
to
leverage
again
fun
funding
for
innovative
infrastructure,
green
infrastructure,
again
infrastructure
canada
has
targeted.
H
A
lot
of
good
comments,
they're
all
just
that
from
from
the
urban
design
perspective
that
that
you'll
you've
seen
in
the
new
official
plan,
a
strong
emphasis
on
a
design
culture
and
on
design,
competitions
and
you're,
going
to
see
for
the
first
time
in
in
my
career,
a
few
design
competitions
popping
up
for
some
pretty
high
profile
developments
on
the
private
side
in
ottawa
in
the
next
two
years,
which
I
find
really
exciting.
H
Personally,
we're
we're
pushing
that
agenda
as
much
as
we
can
on
the
on
the
development
side,
lin
lilly
and
myself
on
the
public
side
as
well.
Both
the
fired
market
public
ground
plan,
the
spark
street
public
ground
plan.
They
really
speak
to
the
importance
of
of
design
competitions
through
through
public
procurement
processes
as
well.
So
I'm
I'm
very
much
in
alignment
with
what
you're
saying
shannon
thanks.
H
Certainly,
on
the
publix
projects,
as
as
we
have
funding
to
implement
the
projects,
absolutely
the
rito
sussex
node
project
that
I
spoke
about
earlier,
we're
doing
the
traffic
study.
The
intention
there
is
to
undertake
a
design
competition
for
the
the
place
that's
created
on
those
lands,
that's
hoping
to
be
2023
on
the
private
projects.
You'll
see
those
design
competitions
next
year,
I
can't
say
which
projects
obviously
right
now
due
to
confidentiality
but
lily,
and
I
are
in
conversations
on
on
those
right
now
with
proponents.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
I
keep
hearing
that
that
that
better
buildings,
auto
strategy,
I
think,
has
a
lot
of
answers
to
some
of
these
questions
that
that
you're,
then
the
things
you're
looking
for
for
the
city
to
be
doing.
Obviously,
we
have
to
work
with
our
partners
in
the
federal
government
virtual
government
to
advocate
for
some
of
this
stuff
and
that's
what
the
strategy
does.
C
I
wonder
if
it
wouldn't
hurt
to
maybe
at
the
next
meeting
to
actually
have
someone
here
from
our
our
climate
resiliency
group,
to
talk
about
what
they're
doing
with
the
climate
resiliency
strategy,
with
some
of
the
things
that
they're
working
on
within
the
planning
group,
I
might
make
that
invite
for
them
to
come
out
and
do
a
bit
of
presentation
for
the
group
just
because
a
lot
of
the
stuff
ties
back,
especially
with
some
of
what
muhammad
saying,
shannon
what
you're
saying
ties
back
to
that
our
resilience
group,
and
I
think
it
it
wouldn't-
hurt
for
them
to
come
out
to
this
committee
and
have
a
chat
up
with
that
include.
G
Thank
you.
I
I
agree
that
the
the
building
better
smarter
suburbs
seems
to
be
doing
some
init
some
interesting
initiatives.
It
is
suburban,
though
it
would
be
interesting
to
and
to
see
that
expanded
to
the
urban
realm
for
sure.
Well,.
G
Yeah,
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
some
of
the
other
discussion
in
terms
of
the
improved
maintenance
quality
standards.
I
know
from
my
own
experience
that
even
parks
have
had
pretty
dismal
maintenance
budgets
and
that
basically
affects
the
design.
So
the
designs
get
really
watered
down
to
to
super
simple
elements
and
and
things
like
habitat
creation,
naturalized
areas
become
really
kind
of
lip
service
and
they
don't
they
don't
get
integrated
and
they
don't
function.
G
So
I
think
there
could
be
opportunities
for
for
collaboration
there,
possibly
with
industry,
and
tying
into
that.
I
know
that
the
something
shannon
was
speaking
to
the
green
infrastructure,
some
of
the
the
bios
whales
that
were
done,
the
urban
bioswales,
I
believe,
they're
over
10
years
old.
I
had
looked
for
some
data
on
them
to
see
if
there
were
best
practices
developed
and
and
what
was
happening.
G
But
I
couldn't
find
there
seems
to
be
no
data,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
to
the
importance
of
monitoring,
because
a
lot
of
these
are
really
super
initiatives,
but
unless
we're
measuring
them
and
seeing
that
they're
effective,
we're
kind
of
just
shooting
in
the
dark.
I
think
that
speaks
to
street
trees
as
well.
I
know,
historically,
there's
a
lot
of
my
dog
is
having
a
fit
beside
me
over
here.
G
Historically
street
trees,
suburban
street
trees,
urban
street
trees,
massive
issues
with
with
conflicts,
utility
conflicts,
fear
of
roots,
undermining
foundations
and
having
these
really
restrictive
policies
in
place,
we
need
to
get
more
creative
because
we
need
to.
We
need
to
understand
that
the,
for
instance,
the
urban
forest
is
more
important
than
potentially
these
small
local
issues.
So
we,
you
know
again,
monitoring,
look
at
it
so
again,
creativity,
flexibility
that
ties
into
budgets
as
well.
G
Budgets
are
limited,
so
perhaps
there's
more
opportunities
for
again
with
pops,
but
even
going
into
other
urban
spaces,
maybe
even
going
into
suburban
spaces,
maybe
green
space
budgeting
is
is
shared
in
a
different
way.
I
know:
there's
a
park
budget
for
development
depending
on
the
size
of
the
park.
G
If
it's
a
district
park
or
community
park,
the
the
land
budget
ratio,
because
it's
a
per
hectare
basis,
it
becomes
generous
enough
that
you
can
implement
some
interesting
things,
but
then,
as
these
spaces
become
smaller,
that
budget,
it
gets
you
nothing.
It
gets
you
turf
grass
on
a
plot
of
land,
so
there
needs
to
be.
C
All
rights-
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
not
seeing
any
further
questions
at
this
this
time.
Hopefully
everyone
got
a
chance
to
anything.
They
wanted
to
say
or
ask.
I
got
out
there,
so
I
will
then
go
back
to
the
agenda
so.
C
So
it's
that
planning
committee
planning
advisory
committee,
let's
get
confused
check,
so
many
committees,
the
plan
advisory
committee,
receive
this
presentation
for
information.
Is
the
item
received
it
is
received?
Thank
you
all
very
much.
There's
no
notice
of
motion
inquiries
out
of
business
or
anything
so
again
appreciates.
I
appreciate
you're
all
attending
here
today
I
mean,
I
think,
if
you
any
of
you,
I
know,
carolyn
was
was
paying
attention
to
our
our
three
days
of
official
plan
meetings
that
we
held
a
few
weeks
ago
and
I
had
mentioned.
C
I
think
I
commented
on
this
advisory
committee
a
few
times.
I
think
I
think
it's
it's
well
worth
the
people
to
attend
and
actually
pay
attention
to
what
the
conversations
that
we
have
here,
because
it's
really
the
only
place
where
you
have
a
a
cross-section
of
members
of
council.
C
Of
course,
last
time
we
had
council
cheering
cancer,
leaper
here,
of
course,
councillor
gower's
here,
members
of
the
community,
the
development
industry
and
then
also
city
staff,
all
kind
of
in
one
spot.
Having
a
conversation,
I
think
it's
it's
quite
beneficial
to
the
city
and
to
for
the
greater
public
and
the
fact
that
we'll
put
these
up,
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
questions,
sorry
desire
to
see
the
last
conversation
put
up,
which
kelly
has
said
that
she'll
try
to
do
that.
C
So
I
think
it's
beneficial
to
have
these
conversations
to
put
them
out.
For
for
sorry,
someone
just
sent
me
a
message
for
better
consumption.
Muhammad,
you
wanted
to
say
something.
D
Scott,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
second
what
you
just
said.
I
think
all
of
us
here
we
we
here,
we
get.
You
know
a
lot
of
great
initiatives
and
very
short
kind
of
really
kind
of
synopsis
of
of
these
efforts
that
are
ongoing,
very
exciting,
but
a
lot
of
us.
I
know
myself.
I
would
really
appreciate
just
being
in
the
loop
you
know.
D
So
if,
if
there's
something
happening,
I'll
get
an
email
I
might
be
able
to
attend,
I
might
not
be,
but
somehow,
if
there's
a,
if
there's
an
effort,
somehow
to
kind
of
keep
the
members
of
this
committee
linked
to
what's
being
presented
to
us,
that
would
be
fantastic.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
would
really
appreciate
to
see-
or
you
know
see
the
depths
that
this-
that
you
know
the
city
is
going
into
and
not
really
rely
on
a
very
high
level
kind
of
understanding
of.
C
C
You
know
good
for
future
discussion
or
just
to
provide
information
that
can
be
built
into
a
future
discussion
when
we
actually
have
our
meeting
our
meetings.
I
can
do
that
as
well,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
at
the
city
I
mean
it's
been.
C
I
think
we've
had
like
sixteen
hundred
master
plans
approved
in
the
last
three
months,
so
at
least
it
feels
like
that,
and
I
think
it's
it'd
be
worthwhile
to
pass
some
of
that
stuff
on
and
kelly,
and
I
have
spoken
during
this
meeting
too
about
ensuring
I
know
I've
been
saying
it
every
meeting,
but
ensuring
that
we
do
get
stuff
out
to
you
guys
sooner
than
you
know,
day
of
or
even
a
couple
days
before.
Ideally,
I'd
love
the
stuff
to
be
ready
for
you.