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Planning and Housing Committee
Meeting #: 7
Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2023
Time: 9:30 am
Location: Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West, and by electronic participation
B
D
E
F
A
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
everyone
with
those
out
of
the
way,
let's
make
some
magic
happen.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
comprehensive
official
plan
in
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
item
4.2
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
item
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted,
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
A
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning,
bylaw,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
April,
26
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
Council
coordinator.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest
this
morning
see
none
are
the
minutes
of
meeting
six
Wednesday
April
5th
2023
carried.
A
So
two
substantial
items
on
the
agenda
today.
The
first
is
the
ministerial
zoning
order
for
4085
Stratford
Drive
of
estaf
to
have
a
presentation
for
that
one.
So
we'll
hold
that
and
I
know,
there's
a
technical
motion
that
will
be
made
as
part
of
that
as
well.
And
the
other
item
is
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
1420
Richmond
Road
365,
Forest
Street
and
25
83
and
25
89
Bond
Street
in
bayward
I
know.
There's
a
technical
motion
on
that.
Can
I
ask
counselor
Kavanaugh
to
please
make
the
technical
motion.
E
That
the
document
2
of
the
report,
details
of
the
recommended
zoning
be
amended
by
adding
the
following
text
as
paragraph
three
B
triple
I.
Notwithstanding
the
provisions
of
the
table,
65
5i
an
open
stairway
stoop,
Landing
steps
or
ramps
May
project
to
within
zero
meters
of
a
lot
line
in
a
front
yard
or
Corner
side
yard,
and
there
is
no
projection
limit
for
these
features
into
the
setbacks
shown
on
schedules
and
therefore
be
further
resolved.
That
document
3
zoning
schedule
be
replaced
with
attachment.
E
A
G
Good
morning
it's
Allison
Hamlin
I'm,
the
acting
manager
for
development
review.
West
did
the
correspondence
come
in
directly
to
the
committee?
Yes,
I
just
saw
it
this
morning.
Okay,
we
will
respond,
I,
I'm,
sorry,
I
haven't
seen
it
and
we'll
respond
in
time
for
for
Council
for
sure
and
we'll
get
back
to
you.
Councilor
Kavanaugh,
no.
E
A
I'm
fine
with
certainly
this
looks
like
something
that
can
be
dealt
with
and
responded
to
prior
to
the
passage
of
this
item
at
Council.
I
did
want
to
just
make
sure
that
committee
members
have
it
on
the
table
before
they
vote,
though
in
case
it
changes
their
minds.
So
this
has
been
received
from
which
building,
which
which
properties
just
Teresa.
E
A
So,
very
briefly,
we've
had
correspondence
from
Osgood
properties,
the
owner
of
the
neighboring
property,
whose
Nate
to
the
east
of
the
proposed
development
State
site
they
State.
We
are
concerned
that
this
building
wouldn't
allow
for
the
recommended
20
meter
separation,
distance
for
high-rise
buildings
if
we
were
to
develop
our
property.
Furthermore,
we
would
ask
the
city
consider
the
new
high
performance
design
standards.
If
this
project
would
reach
the
site
plan
approval
process,
these
standards
will
require
sustainable
routes
for
all
rooms
over
500
square
meters.
A
F
A
A
F
Eight
of
the
report
with
the
following:
there
are
no
asset
management
implications,
be
replaced
with
the
project,
has
potential
impacts
on
water,
Wastewater,
storm
water
and
transportation
related
Services,
a
site
plan.
Control
process
is
critical
to
ensure
that
there
is
sufficient
infrastructure
capacity
of
available
to
support
the
development.
On-Site
stormwater
management
is
implemented,
potential,
jock,
River,
flooding
is
considered
and
any
off-site
works
that
may
be
needed
are
identified
and
implemented
as
part
of
the
project.
H
I
Great
good
morning,
so
I
guess
we'll
start
with
the
site.
So
this
is
a
presentation
for
4085
Stratford
Drive.
The
administer
zoning
order
next
slide,
please
so
4085
stranded
Drive
is
aligned
in
the
red
shown
here
along
the
south
side
of
Stratford
Drive
and
the
east
side
of
orosacane
road
next
slide.
Please.
I
The
site
is
currently
undeveloped.
This
perspective
is
of
the
is
of
the
site
from
laurissa
cane
Road
Facing
East
next
slide.
Please,
we
start
with
the
arrow
identifies
the
property
location
on
schedule,
B6
of
the
official
plan,
which
is
the
Suburban
Southwest
transect,
identifying
the
lands
as
a
mixed
industrial
area
which
provide
a
broader
range
of
non-residential
uses
than
industrial
areas.
I
A
long-term
care
facility
is
regarded
as
an
Institutional
use
and
the
op
prescribes
criteria
for
site-specific
amendments
to
the
zoning
bylaw
to
allow
sensitive
institutional
uses
where
there
are
no
Health
impacts
from
adjacent
uses.
Next
slide,
please
here's
a
concept
site
plan
facing
a
long-term
long-term
care
facility
building
facing
barossaquin
Road.
I
The
owner
is
proposing
a
two-phase
development
phase,
one
to
construct
90
192
bed,
four-story
long-term
care
facility
phase.
Two
may
include
192,
more
long-term
care
beds
or
range
of
ancillary
anciliary
uses
such
as
a
retirement
home
residential
apartment
and
Community
oriented
commercial
uses
next
slide.
Please.
I
There
are
two
properties
adjacent
to
the
subject
site
to
the
South
that
have
a
total
area
of
2.8
hectares
and
outlined
in
the
dash
light.
Blue
line
above
staff
recommend
that
should
an
mzo
be
issued
for
4085
Stratford
Drive
staff
shall
conduct
a
city-initiated
official
plan
Amendment
for
the
whole
of
the
properties
and
to
examine
and
recommend
appropriate
uses
for
any
new
designation
next
slide,
please.
I
I
The
lands
are
currently
zoned
as
development
Reserve.
The
applicant
has
requested
a
general
mixed
use.
A
Zone,
however,
staff
recommends
the
appropriate
Zoning
for
the
proposed
long-term
care
home
via
the
minor
institutional
Zone
Sub
Zone
a
as
well
as
the
site-specific
exemption
allow
up
to
20
meters
in
Building
height
next
slide.
Please.
I
The
report
recommendation
is
that
planning
and
housing
committee
recommend
Council,
receive
and
approve
this
report
and
including
the
city's
response
to
the
minister
zoning
order
request
regarding
4085
standard
drive
as
soon
as
as
shown
in
document
2
of
the
report
and
direct
the
general
manager
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development
to
submit
the
city's
response
to
the
minister
of
Municipal,
sorry,
Municipal,
Ministry
of
Municipal,
Affairs
and
Housing.
With
regard
to
the
minister
zoning
order
for
4085
Stratford
Drive
next
slide,
and
thank
you.
A
A
So
that's
it's
not
necessarily,
and
for
those
watching,
this
is
not
about
Council
approval
of
the
development
itself.
Council
will
be
voting
on
document
on
sending
document
two
back
to
the
minister
on
this
one.
So
take
a
look
at
what
document
2
says,
which
contains
some
some
of
our
suggestions
to
the
province
as
to
how
to
handle
this
particular
file.
I.
Think
I
would
just
like
to
ask
councilor
Hill
to
weigh
in
on
the
the
development
itself
and
whether
there
is
a
question
about
approval
or
anything
on
that.
J
Well,
thank
you
very
much
yeah.
So
certainly
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
m0l
process
myself.
So
I
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
if
you
wish,
but
I
will
talk
in
terms
of
the
the
function
of
what
would
ultimately
be
seen
here
in
Bar
Haven
and
the
site
and
I
can
certainly
speak
that
from
the
perspective
of
the
folks
in
Bar
Haven
that
I've
spoken
to
about
this
type
of
capability.
So
certainly
there
is
a
deficit.
J
This
is
seen
as
a
net
positive
and
from
a
location
perspective
that
intersection.
You
know,
just
on
the
North
side,
has
a
Viva
retirement
home
there's
a
pharmacy
on
the
other
side.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
reasonable
type
of
place
to
have
this
go
again,
I'm,
not
going
to
speak
specific.
Unless
you
ask
Mr
chair
to
the
to
to
the
process,
you
know
whether
you
know
routine.
Zoning
could
have
allowed
for
this
to
happen
and
such,
but
just
from
the
from
the
purpose
of.
J
J
I
think
that
there
is
opportunity
here
you
know
from
an
intensity
perspective,
to
to
kind
of
build
on
this
and
to
make
sure
that
this
increases
from
you
know
a
functional
purpose
of
having
potentially
the
opportunity
to
expand
with
some
mixed
retirement,
home,
slash,
long-term
care
facility
or
potentially
some
other
complementing
retail
or
things
like
that
in
there.
So
I
think
I
think
there's
some
good
to
be
done
in
this.
It's
just
a
question
of
process,
but
I.
A
Don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
no
I
I
I
I
I.
Just
would
it
be
fair
to
suggest
that
this
develop?
You
know
this
isn't
a
controversial
development
file.
What
we're
really
talking
about
here
today
is
is
more
the
process
that
that
we're
undergoing
so
putting
that
on
the
table.
I'm
going
to
move
to
our
first
questions
for
staff,
Vice,
chair,
Gower,.
F
Thanks
chair
yeah,
this
is
super
interesting.
It's
not
every
day
that
we
get
an
mzo,
so
I'm
I'm
curious,
mostly
about
about
the
process,
and
although
this
is
the
first
that
we've
had
in
front
of
committee
in
the
time
I've
been
here,
I'm
I
know
there's
been
other
municipalities.
So
is
this
typical
that
we'd
be
asked
to
respond,
respond
to
the
mzo
and
is
it?
Is
it
typical
that
applicants
in
Ontario
would
be
seeking
an
exemption
not
only
to
the
zoning
but
to
the
site,
plan,
control
or
other
review
processes?
F
H
Chair,
so
a
counselor
is
correct
that
this
is
the
first
mdo
that
we
have
received
from
the
ministry
and
staff
did
talk
to
a
number
of
other
municipalities,
so
so
far
Toronto
has
received
the
most
of
the
mdos
I
think
there
are
more
than
20
of
them.
There
Kingston
has
received
two
so
far,
and
some
other
cities
as
well
there's
no
prescribed
process
in
terms
of
how
the
ministry
will
conduct
the
issuance
of
the
mdo.
H
In
certain
cases
they
would
contact
the
municipality
looking
for
a
technical
response
and
they
in
this
case
we're
given
roughly
a
few
weeks
at
the
time
when
we
were
contacting,
but
there
was
no
specified
timeline
in
other
cases
like
City
of
Toronto,
they
had
a
few
mgos
that
they
were
given
like
a
couple
days
to
respond.
So
staff
responded
quickly,
then
they
had
to
report
back
to
their
plan
committee
and
the
council
after
the
fact-
and
there
are
also
cases
where
the
city
was
not
a
contact
at
all
and
mzio
was
gestation.
F
H
So
the
mzo
Authority
has
existed
in
Ontario
for
over
20
years.
It
just
is,
it
was
used
before
I
think
a
one
of
the
good
example.
People
often
refer
to
would
be
the
lake
Elliott
when
the
shopping
mall
collapsed
and
the
The
Province
issued
them
Neo
just
for
the
public
safety
perspective
and
in
general,
the
planning
professions
understanding
was
that
was
the
intent
of
the
mdo
when
it
was
originally
created.
H
F
And
I
think
the
points
that
staff
have
made
in
the
letter.
The
response
letter
are:
are
fine,
they're,
good
and
I'm
glad
that
staff
is
raising
these
points
based
on
the
experience
you've
seen
in
other
municipalities,
How
likely
is
it
that
the
the
minister
will
will
take
her
concerns
seriously
or
or
is
this
more
of
a
I'm
worried?
This
is
just
more
of
a
formality
and
no
matter
what
we
say:
they'll
just
push
forward:
I!
Guess
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
and
looking
for
for
any
context.
F
H
So
chair,
it
is
not
unusual
that
we
would
treat
a
health
care
facility
or
long-term
care
facility
or
affordable
housing
projects
as
a
priority.
Apparently
there
are
multiple
parodies
in
the
office,
but
we
do
our
best
and
it
also
depends
on
our.
You
know
how
the
objectives
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
a
lot
of
time.
It
is
the
deadline
for
the
funding
to
in
order
to
for
the
Cyclone
approval
in
order
to
receive
the
funding.
So,
in
all
the
cases
we
work
with
the
applicant
to
achieve
their
target.
F
Okay,
maybe
okay,
one
last
question
because
I
know:
there's
a
lot
of
hands
up
if
site
plan
control
is
Exempted.
Staff
have
indicated,
there's
concern
potential
issues
around
say:
storm
water.
If
this
goes
ahead
and
there
are
negative
impacts
to
storm
water
infrastructure
who
holds
the
liability
on
that,
is
it?
Is
there
any
City
liability?
Is
there
provincial
liability
because
they
superseded
the
usual
processes?
What
would
happen.
H
Again
chair,
this
is
a
tricky
question,
because
this
is
the
first
time
where
Dina
was
this
situation.
It
might
be
worth
mentioning
a
situation
happening
in
Toronto
a
few
years
ago,
which
was
for
a
long-term
care
facility
as
well,
and
as
I
plan
was
Exempted.
The
Chief
Building
official
of
Toronto
refused
to
issue
the
building
permit
because
the
building
permit
application
did
not
comply
with
the
building
code
and
the
city
standards
So.
Based
on
our
conversations,
it
was
a
lot
of
work
created
by
this.
D
Morning
chair,
it's
still
early,
so
I'm
going
to
walk
through
my
understanding
of
this
application,
just
to
make
sure
I
have
everything
correct.
A
company
called
Southbridge
Care
Homes
wants
to
build
long-term
care
home
units
and
they
have
found
that
there's
a
construction
subsidy
available
from
the
ministry
of
long-term
Long-Term
Care
Homes
to
build
that's
my
understanding.
D
How
did
we
get
to
the
point
where
the
ministry
has
approached
the
city
of
Ottawa?
Did
the
ministry
of
long-term
care
home
raise
to
the
Ministry
of
Municipal,
Affairs
and
Housing?
Hey?
We
have
a
company
that
wants
to
build
an
Ottawa
they're
seeking
this
grant.
The
land
is
not
zoned
for
this.
We
need
to
get
involved
here
to
speed
up
the
process.
B
D
And-
and
they
are
their
role
in
all
of
this-
is
to
confirm
there's
an
applicant
who's
applied
for
a
grant
through
the
other,
Ministry
and
they're,
recognizing
that
we
have
130
days
left
to
get
shovels
in
the
ground.
Despite
they
need
zoning,
they
need
a
site
plan,
they
need
there's
an
appeal
period
in
there.
We
need
public
consultation
in
this
neighborhood.
H
Sheriff,
the
Minnesota
order
is
issued
by
the
ministry
eventually
that
will
override
any
City
policies.
So
no
zoning
application
process
is
required,
nor
a
public
consultation
required
or
the
appeal
period
so
zone
is
down
the
same
same
for
the
sideline
for
the
sideline
exam.
The
applicant
can
go
to
the
building
department
stage
right
away.
D
D
All
right:
well,
if
I
was
the
counselor
in
this
neighborhood
I,
don't
know
what
counselor
Hill's
been
doing.
I've
been
be
informing
my
community
that
this
is
happening
just
to
make
people
aware
that
there
could
be
an
entire
local
process
stepped
over.
It's
a
very
rare
situation.
I've
not
seen
it
before,
but
I
think
the
minister
will
approve
this.
They
are
laser
focused
on
housing.
We
need
more
long-term
care,
Long-Term
Care
Homes.
Obviously,
if
there's
a
grant
available,
they
want
to
facilitate
this
in
the
province.
K
Have
you
mentioned
that
to
staff
I
think
that
that's
important
to
make
clear
so
I
guess
I
mean
I
I
know
you
said
you
can't
sort
of
predict
when
these
mzos
are
going
to
come
forward
and
and
how
you
know
their
their
addressed
at
the
provincial
level.
But
could
we
anticipate
that
we
will
see
with
those
two
applications.
K
Okay
and
I
think
my
colleagues
have
asked
sufficiently
but
I'm
wondering
what
happened
in
those
six
months
like.
Was
there
any
correspondence
with
staff
to
say
this
isn't
moving
as
fast
as
we
need
it
to
we're
concerned
about
the
timeline
and
then
the
mzo
happened,
or
was
it
really?
You
didn't
sort
of
you
had
the
pre-consult
didn't.
You
know
there
was
some
back
and
forth
and
then
mzo
just
sort
of
came
out
of
nowhere.
Yes,.
I
K
K
L
I'm
trying
to
to
understand
I,
really
appreciated
all
the
background
stuff
provided
on
on
what
had
transpired
with
this
development
and
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand
if
we
you
know
councilor
kits,
have
led
into
this,
but
should
expect
more
of
this
in
in
respect
not
only
to
long-term
care,
but
with
all
the
changes
the
province
has
instituted
in
terms
of
affordable
housing,
and
you
know,
building
housing
quicker.
Should
we
expect
that
the
Ministries
will
do
mzos
more
frequently
to
bypass
municipal
processes
to
get
things
built
quicker.
H
L
Do
you
think
it
will
hold
any
weight
I'm
once
again
asking
you
to
read
their
minds,
but
you
know
they're
asking
for
your
opinion,
but
they're
saying
we're
going
to
do
this
and
we're
going
to
do
it
faster.
Do
you
think
that
that
your
input
will
be
taken
with
the
amount
of
weight
it
deserves,
or
do
you
think
they're
just
doing
it
as
a
check-in-the-box
exercise.
H
Chair
I
think
the
both
the
municipality
and
the
province.
They
share
a
lot
of
common
public
interest,
so
I
do
believe
that
the
province
is
interested
to
hear
the
voice
from
the
Menace
found
the
municipality
hiring.
At
the
same
time,
I
understand
the
minister
has
other
considerations
the
priorities.
So
that's
why
we
cannot
predict
that
they
will
fully
accept
our
response
and
the
comments.
M
No
just
building
on
Lily's
response
had
a
discussion
with
Mr
Mark
and
while
there's
no
requirements
in
the
planning
act
to
have
that
consultation,
We,
Have
Heard,
the
minister
and
others
in
the
ministry
stating
their
strong
preference
to
have
Municipal
Council
feedback
before
the
zoning
order
is
issued.
As
Lily
pointed
out,
that
doesn't
always
happen.
M
Certainly
there's
an
advantage
in
perhaps
one
of
the
cases
outlined
of
unintended
consequences.
If
they
don't
consult
with
us,
the
zoning
they've
put
in
place
may
not
be
appropriate.
They
may
not
be
able
to
get
a
building
permit
because
they're,
not
the
experts
in
zoning,
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
communicate
those
issues.
Whether
you
know
the
details
of
the
zoning
or
site
plan
considerations.
M
L
And
I
agree
I
mean
we
know
our
city
better
than
the
Province
does
in
terms
of
of
planning,
but
all
other
aspects,
and-
and
this
might
be
prompting
on
councilor
gower's
question
before
so
I
I
apologize,
if
I'm
getting
you
to
repeat
this
in
in
some
respects
by
us
as
municipality,
providing
our
input,
we're
basically
papering
them
up.
We're
we're
saying
these
are
our
concerns.
These
are
our
the
thing.
The
benefits
of
this
project,
we're
sharing
our
thoughts.
What
happens
if
they
disregard
them?
L
I'm,
not
talking
about
this
project
specifically,
but
they
disregard
it
on
any
mzo.
They
move
forward.
We
then,
as
a
city,
now
have
to
inherit
an
issue
as
councilor
Gower
said,
with
storm
drainage.
You
know,
there's
there's
an
issue
that
arises
from
a
development
because
they
disregarded
our
expert
opinions,
not
mine,
yours,
Lily
and
nothing
team.
L
N
Good
morning
sorry
I
have
a
spring
cold.
Can
you
hear
me
Mr,
chair,
okay,
chair
I,
I,
don't
believe
that
there
has
been
an
issue
where
these
legal
steps
that
the
counselor
has
talked
about
has
occurred
in
terms
of
understanding
what
the
process
would
be
for
remittance
or
where
liability
would
occur
from
a
statutory
perspective.
There
is
no
process
or
criteria
for
this.
These
types
of
applications
at
this
time
and
as
well.
There
is
no
process
or
criteria
for
steps.
H
O
Yeah
I
mean
I,
just
I,
think
we
all,
especially
with
our
zoning
bylaw
review,
coming
up.
We
need
to
think
about
what
processes
we
can
tighten
because
they're
facing
the
reality
that
we
could
lose
a
lot
of
really
important
control
and
autonomy
over
development
in
our
city.
So
you
know
I
understand
that
cities
are
technically
creatures
of
the
province.
We
hear
this
all
the
time.
P
Just
I
certainly
want
to
concur
with
everything
councilor
trosser
just
said,
I.
Think,
though,
the
question
I
was
hoping
I'd
get
that
answer
to
from
councilor
troster,
though,
was
if
they
hadn't
gone.
The
mzo
route
and
they'd
instead
said
okay
we'd
like
to
build
a
long-term
care
facility
here,
and
they
started
that
process.
How
long
would
it
have
taken
compared
to
this
route,
because
the
criticism
that's
coming
at
Municipal
councils
is
that
we
take
too
long.
The
city
takes
too
long.
Municipal
councils
take
too
long.
We
put
up
too
many
roadblocks.
P
Everything
grinds
to
a
halt,
so
they're,
tired
and
sick
of
us,
and
they
just
want
to
ram
these
things
through
that.
That's
the
message,
I
think
we
get
on
this,
we're
seeing
it
now
with
school
boards.
They're
tired
of
school
boards
spending
too
much
time
on
the
wrong
things,
and
you
know
they're
going
to
give
provincial
direction
to
or
else
get
rid
of
school
boards.
So
my
question
is:
how
much
time
would
it
have
taken?
H
So
chair,
the
applicant
met
with
the
staff
in
about
November
2022,
so
they
have.
You
know
today,
almost
six
months
or
five
months,
to
submit
the
applications
and
the
fast
tracking
of
priority
application.
It
depends
on
the
collaboration
between
the
applicant
and
the
staff.
You
know
it's
a
quality
of
the
applications,
as
well
as
the
team
working
on
the
application
as
well.
So
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
say
you
know
how
long
it
will
take
us,
but
we
are
confidently.
H
You
know
if
they
prepare
a
proper
application
like
say
to
submit
a
cyclone
application
in
April
in
April
or
May.
We
well
treat
it
as
a
high
priority.
In
fact,
the
bill
109,
which
will
come
into
place,
does
require
a
zoning
of
following
three
months
and
acceptance
approval
in
two
months.
So
that's
something
we
we
already
prepared
to
work
on.
P
P
I
H
Here,
just
to
add
that
a
staff
provided
a
list
of
required
studies
just
to
guide
the
application,
and
we
also
provided
a
preliminary
comments
based
on
the
pre-consultation
meeting.
And
we
always
welcome
the
applicant
who
contact
us
later
if
they
have
questions
on
the
preliminary
comments
or
study
list
or
on
the
process.
But
that
didn't
happen
and.
Q
No,
not
at
all
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
what
counselor
Curry
was
curious
about,
because
in
in
my
mind
it's
not
only
Savvy
of
them
of
the
the
ministry,
but
it's
also
Savvy
for
the
applicant,
and
so
now
we're
having
a
situation
where
an
applicant
perhaps
is
superseded
processes
that
could
be
really
important
to
the
city
to
get
where
they
want
to
go.
Is
there
a
financial
implication
for
the
city
of
Ottawa,
when
the
site
plan
is
skipped,
I,
believe
I
read
that.
Q
B
Q
B
Q
Okay,
so
I'm
hearing
that
there
might
not
be
a
a
huge
financial
impact
if
we
skip
site
plan
at
the
onset
unless
everything
goes
sideways
and
then
that
that
those
hours
are
are
continuing
to
be
unfunded
through
fees.
That's
correct,
okay,
so
so
I,
just
wonder
and
I
wonder
if
there
I
think
there
will
be
a
presentation
or
perhaps
I
should
be
doing
more
digging
about
how
we
are
risk.
Responding
to
Bill,
109
I
know:
we've
had
some
memos.
M
Q
Very
soon,
okay,
tremendous
so
I
think
I
think
some
of
these
questions
will
come
up
again
when
we
do
that
when
we
do
that
reflection,
I
know
that
in
some
of
the
projects
that
I've
seen
through
my
ward,
I've
asked
Allison,
you
know
is
there?
Is
there
like
a
Tim's
Express
line
for
for
certain
applications?
For
certain
reasons
like
or
does
it
just
go
in
a
queue
and
I'm
sure?
M
Yeah
I
think
that's
fair.
We
do
have
I,
won't
call
it
an
Express
process,
but
we
have
a
high
economic
impact
stream.
We
have
a
social
stream
where
those
projects
do
get
prioritized
currently
and
in
this
case,
there's
a
funding
deadline
as
as
committee's
aware
of
August
31st.
So
this
would
obviously
be
a
priority
project.
A
I
do
understand
that
this
is
an
application
that
has
a
particular
funding
deadline
attached.
I
understand
why
that
might
go
through
the
ministerial
zoning
order
process
rather
than
their
normal
Municipal
processes,
but
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
would
like
to
see
that
become
the
norm.
It
does
make
it
more
critical
that
we
have
the
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw
review
done
and
complete
so
that
the
zoning
in
the
city
reflects
what
people
want
to
actually
see
built.
A
So
certainly
the
proposed
response,
which
is
what
we're
voting
on
today,
has
has
my
full
support.
Is
that
carried?
Thank
you
very
much
and
sorry.
Was
there
a
technical
mode?
Sorry
is
there
a
technical
motion?
Is
the
technical
motion
carried
on
that
one?
All
right,
it
is
amended,
carried
all
right
back
into
the
agenda.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.
Counselor
Hill.
A
What
we
got
what's
the
rest
of
the
meeting,
let's
make
some
more
magic
happen.
There
are
no
in-camera
items
which
I'm
aware
we
have
no
items
information
previously
distributed.
There
are
no
notices
of
motion
for
subsequent
meetings
that
we've
thus
far
received.
Does
anyone
have
anything
seen
nothing
inquiries?
Are
there
any
inquiries?
None
were
submitted
prior
other
business
we
have
no
other
business
adjournment
meeting
is,
is
being
adjourned,
greetings
adjourned.
Thank
you,
chair
thank.