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Planning and Housing Committee - Monday, March 20, 2023
A
B
A
You
very
much
I'll
just
note
that
in
Vice,
chair
gower's
absence
of
asked
Council
Johnson
to
Vice
us
and
make
the
technical
motions
Etc.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
Zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
4.1,
5.1
and
5.2
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted.
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
A
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning,
bylaw,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
April,
12
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
account
coordinator.
There
are
Declarations
of
Interest.
A
A
B
A
D
A
A
A
C
Whereas
the
report
from
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development
department
entitled
2031
Municipal
housing
pledge,
ACS
2023
pre
edp009
was
issued
subsequent
to
publication
of
the
planning
and
housing
committee
agenda
number
five
and
distributed
to
members
and
published
with
the
revised
agenda
on
March
15.
2023,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
report
entitled
2031
Municipal
housing
pledge,
ACS
2023,
PR
ADP
0009
be
added
to
the
agenda
pursuant
to
the
procedure.
Bylaw
subsection
89
3.
In
order
to
consider
the
matter
prior
to
the
submission
deadline
on
March
22
2023.
A
A
So
moving
back
through
the
Kennedy
Lane
East
bylaw
Amendment,
we
do
have
delegations
on
that.
One
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
point
in
asking
staff
to
make
the
same
presentation
so,
with
the
committee's
approval,
I'd
like
to
move
just
straight
into
delegations,
see
nodding
heads
so
we'll
go
first
to
do.
The
applicants
wish
to
make
a
presentation.
F
But
we
are
I'm
happy
to
bring
this
back
to
today,
but
also
with
the
the
idea
that
it
was
outlined
in
the
letter
that
was
submitted
to
to
the
committee,
but
that
we're
happy
to
work
with
staff
moving
forward,
making
sure
that
there's
no
monitoring
the
parking
situation
on
along
Kennedy
Lane,
but
on
our
internal
site,
specifically
to
have
a
a
screening
process
in
place
for
tenants.
So
we'll
be
monitoring
which
tenants
have
cars
and
do
not
have
cars.
F
And
should
we
not
have
any
available
space
have
an
ability
to
to
monitor
that
situation
in
case
so
that
there
is
no
external
pressure
put
on
the
surrounding
public
streets,
but
also
making
sure
the
new
tenants
have
an
understanding
of
what
transits
in
the
area
and
promoting
the
OC
trains
will
pass,
but
also
the
equipass
for
the
affordable
tenants
as
well.
Should
they
qualify
and
also
having
a
dedicated
space.
F
A
CarShare
space
if
and
when
the
the
service
extends
into
Orleans
and
we've
had
a
few
conversations
with
camionado,
specifically
on
that
on
that
front,
they
don't
have
any
service
in
the
area
currently,
but
when
they
do
we're
happy
to
put
us
we're
happy
to
have
that
space
on
our
site
and
that
a
staff
at
London
their
letters.
Well,
that's
one
of
the
points
of
the
site
plan
agreement
we'll
have
that
in
we'll
have
that
in
there.
A
G
Thank
you
for
that,
I'm
glad
that
that
was
worked
out
in
the
meantime.
That's
what
we
were
looking
for,
I
guess
as
some
kind
of
understanding,
I
guess,
I.
Just
wonder
what
is
the
follow-up,
though,
as
the
years
go
by
on
this
I
mean
you
know,
buildings
stand
for
100
years,
and
these
kinds
of
things
continue.
What
would
be
the
follow-up
with
people
who
lived
there
for
five
or
six
years
and
end
up
getting
a
second
car
and
and
how
would
that
all
work.
F
We
we
have
that
ability
to
have
that
conversation
with
those
residents
as
well
and
and
monitor
the
situation,
and
then,
if
there
is
an
issue,
the
church
is
still
involved
heavily
involved
with
the
process
and
will
be
the
owner
of
the
land.
So
we
can
have
those
conversations
should
that
arise
and
and
be
available
to
the
neighborhood.
Should
there
be
external
issues
as
well.
G
F
Yeah,
so
the
all
the
the
parking
spaces
are
not
a
part
of
the
lease,
so
they're
they're
additional
rent,
so
we'd
have
an
ability
to
monitor
who's
renting
those
spaces.
So
there
is
no
parking
included
in
the
release
and
there
will
be
a
part
of
the
lease
that
says,
or
there
will
be
information
as
part
of
the
lease
that
says
that
there's
a
limited
number
of
parking
spaces
on
site,
so
that
should
you
have
more
than
one
card,
you
might
not
be
accommodated
here.
A
A
A
H
However,
I
would
like
to
summarize,
if
I
can
the
points
that
I'm
trying
to
make
now
you've
received
a
memo
that
I
believe
was
designed
to
design
to
address
your
concerns
that
you
had
in
the
February
27th
meeting
I
had
a
copy
of
that
sent
to
me
as
I
appreciate
and
I've
gone
kind
of
Point
by
Point
through
it
I'm
not
going
to
do
that
today.
Let
me
say:
I
agree
with
the
first
point:
we
need
affordable
housing,
more
affordable
housing
after
that.
H
If
you
want
to
ask
me
what
my
position
is
on
any
one
of
the
other
ones,
I
would
invite
you
to
do
so,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them.
I
have
a
comment
to
make
on
every
one
of
them,
which
I
think
should
raise
some
concern.
Of
course,
that
is
up
to
you.
So
the
engineers
and
the
planners
who
do
this
are
delegated
with
the
authority
to
determine
all
these
issues,
that's
been
downloaded
in
fact
legislatively
downloaded.
H
This
is
based
not
on
local
reality
and
I
can
give
you
examples
and
I
already
have
in
my
previous
presentation.
I've
done
it
ad
nauseum
in
my
written
presentation
for
Coburn
Heights,
affordable
housing,
complex
nearby,
plus
we're
not
Urban.
The
area
that
was
now
repurposed
by
the
city
plan
is
to
the
north
of
here.
It's
along
the
LRT
Corridor
we're
outside
of
that
we
are
suburb
and
believe
it
or
not.
H
H
It's
not
going
into
debt,
it's
generating
funds,
so
61
Vehicles,
apparently
isn't
enough
to
trigger
a
study,
but
beyond
any
doubt
my
opinion
there's
going
to
be
more
vehicles
at
least
two
per
unit
in
the
affordable
and
as
I've
just
suggested
more
so
based
on
the
real
world
data.
That's
in
my
written
presentation
that
means
that
266
percent,
more
than
the
calculated
0.75,
are
going
to
be
flooding
onto
the
nearby
streets
because
you
can
only
put
61
into
the
parking.
That's.
H
Why
I've
made
the
suggestion
since
over
a
year
ago
that
we
scale
this
back
to
54
units
all
affordable.
You
want
affordable
housing.
Let's
have
54
units
two
times
what
the
United
Church
wants,
but
54
units
will
fit
better
not
perfectly
into
the
61
spaces,
and
the
Overflow,
which
will
create
a
hazard
and
so
forth,
is
at
least
reduced
significantly.
H
So
failure
to
take
responsibility
to
correct
these
errors,
I
think,
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
the
Olt
might
be
interested
in.
They
clearly
don't
worry
too
much
about
what
you
are
doing.
You
can
build
anything
you
like
as
long
as
you
are
following
rules
but
I'm
suggesting
here
you
are
not
following,
and
even
if
they
don't
see
it
as
I
submit,
then
the
no
risk
still
bothers
me.
I
thought
that
at
least
after
the
last
time,
I
explained
all
the
risks
and
the
concerns
of
900
plus
people
plus
our
counselor.
H
That
should
find
a
risk.
Maybe
an
acceptable
risk,
but
some
kind
of
risk
not
no
risk,
and
so
with
that
I'm
suggesting
that
your
lawyers
have
a
look
at
it.
I've
asked
the
mayor
to
have
your
lawyers.
I've
asked
you
to
have
a
look
at.
It
hasn't
happened,
I'm
looking
for
due
diligence,
I'm,
not
seeing
what
I
consider
due
diligence
do.
I
know
the
answer
to
this.
Absolutely
not,
but
I've
suggested
that
there
are
those
out
there
who
should
be
and
should
have
been
involved
in
the
process.
H
A
I
A
I
A
I
My
name
is
Giselle
Doyle
I'm,
an
advocate
for
the
rights
of
people
with
Developmental
and
neurodivergent
disabilities,
particularly
the
right
to
live
in
an
inclusive
and
affordable
home
and
the
right
to
decide
where
and
with
who
they
live
with
as
independently
as
possible.
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
this
file
is
closer
to
being
approved,
as
indicated
to
our
counselors
other
inclusive,
affordable
projects
downtown
such
as
Beaver
Barracks
have
a
ratio
of
0.4
parking
space
per
unit
and
the
barhaven
multi-faith
housing
project
has
0.75
what
keeps
me
going
other
than
our
sun
I'll.
I
If
you
are
a
counselor
that
is
45
years
old
or
under
our
families,
members
of
proximate
age
I
want
you
to
imagine,
you
are
still
living
at
home
as
you
can't
afford
to
move
out
and
are
afraid
to
as
you've
known
no
other
life
now
imagine
being
a
parent
65
years
or
over,
haven't
had
or
having
health
problems.
Thinking
what
is
going
to
happen
when
we're
gone.
I
We
lived
that
10
years
ago,
but
fortunately
we
were
Guided
by
a
support
worker
who
convinced
us
to
think
outside
the
box
and
help
my
son
find
an
apartment
and
help
him
get
to
the
independent
life
he
is
living
now.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
We
are
still
very
involved
in
his
daily
life,
ensuring
that
he
has
the
social
life,
helping
him
find
a
job,
providing
a
disability
service
worker
to
help
him
with
his
life
skill.
I
And,
of
course
we
do
the
overnight
calls
where,
when
needed,
it's
time
to
help
the
families
in
our
group
to
be
able
to
do
the
same
for
their
loved
ones,
but
first
we
need
housing
in
Orleans.
Please
follow
up
on
the
request
from
the
planning
staff
and
approve
this
amendment
to
continue
with
this
important
project.
A
J
Thank
you,
I'll
I'll,
begin
by
saying,
since
the
Inception
of
this
committee
is
involvement
in
this
file,
I've
been
trying
to
determine
what
its
motivation
was
now
I
believe
I
know.
The
official
plan
on
the
city
seek
to
impose
Urban
constructs
on
Suburbia.
This
is
wrong.
Residents
in
the
suburbs
live
there
because
they
have
made
a
conscious
choice
to
reject
the
stress
of
the
urban
environment
in
favor
of
a
more
relaxed,
slower,
paced
lifestyle
be
clear.
We
don't
want
to
live
in
the
big
city
and
we
don't
want
the
big
city
brought
to
us.
J
These
are
essential
concept:
Concepts.
We
object
to
intensification,
whether
it
be
a
more
crowded
living
facilities
or
a
place
for
the
family
minivan.
Likewise,
we
reject
the
idealistic
concept
of
the
15-minute
Urban
Village.
What
works
in
the
city
will
meet
with
egregious
disfavor
in
the
suburbs
it
already
has
a
witness
are
900,
plus
signature
petition.
J
J
G
J
What
they
are
there
are
options,
however.
The
the
automobile
is
an
essential
State
staple
of
family
life
and
must
remain
so.
A
busy
family
relies
upon
their
vehicle
to
sustain
itself,
be
it
kids,
hockey
dance
lessons
or
just
a
big
old
load
of
groceries.
It's
important
likewise
seniors,
especially
those
who
are
Mobility
compromised,
rely
on.
It
sorry
rely
on
it
to
remain
active
in
the
community,
with
wider
choices
for
for
recreation
and
services.
J
I
urge
all
counselors
to
take
the
planning
staff's
Council
under
advisement,
but,
more
importantly,
to
listen
to
residents
of
both
Urban
and
Suburban
Lifestyles
and
to
respect
their
life
choices.
We
made
compromises
way
back
during
amalgamation.
I
believe
so
must
you
false
accusations
of
NIMBY
are
not
helpful
and
only
cause
resentment
and
Division.
J
J
This
represents
the
comparison
of
the
of
the
proposed
parking
using
the
0.75
ratio
with
with
the
some
real
life
situations.
Now
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
my
time's
running
short
I'd,
like
to
cite
information.
We
obtained
from
Dave
Lewis,
the
general
manager
of
the
Cumberland
housing,
Corporation
and
I.
J
Believe
you
have
this
this
document,
which
represents
his
text
but
I'll,
just
read
the
the
bottom
part
of
it
to
say
that
affordable
tennis
or
any
tenants
have
fewer
cars
is
totally
not
correct
to
die
occupancy
because
an
affordable
applicant
or
a
regular
applicant
has
a
car
is
totally
unacceptable
and
he
goes
on
to
say
all
my
rent
applications.
All
of
them
require
notification
of
vehicle
registration.
J
A
C
Okay,
okay,
so
thank
you.
Chair
I,
just
wanted
to
pick
up
on
this
on
the
idea
of
choice
and
urban
Suburban
living
I
struggle
a
little
bit
to
equate
affordability
and
housing
with
choice.
Right
now,
I
did
used
to
live
downtown
and
my
choice
was
to
start
a
family
and
so
to
be
able
to
afford
a
home
I
I
did
move
to
a
suburb.
That
was
the
choice.
J
It's
quite
common
to
see
some
kids
down
at
the
end
of
our
street
street,
with
their
hockey
net
out
playing
hockey
in
the
middle
of
the
street
I
shudder
to
see
what
would
happen
if
they
were,
probably
in
a
bit
on
a
busy
City
Street,
it's
more
relaxed,
it's
more
conducive
to
a
a
healthier
lifestyle,
in
my
opinion,
or
family
or
seniors,
and
for
others
I
I,
don't
say:
don't
live
in
the
city.
Many
people
like
that.
J
C
C
C
J
A
K
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Miranda
gray.
I
live
in
Orleans,
West,
Innis
and
I
live
in
some
of
this.
What
we're
calling
density,
Co-op
housing
I
speak
in
favor
of
this
applicant
and
in
favor
of
making
no
further
changes
and
approving
it,
as
is
it,
is
not
impossible
to
live
in
the
suburbs
without
a
car.
I
am
one
of
those
people
feel
free
to
ask
me
about
it,
but
this
discussion
is
about
people
and
housing.
K
So
I'd
invite
you
on
the
committee
to
close
your
eyes
and
think
of
the
worst
family
vacation
you
have
had.
Maybe
you
were
stuck
in
a
tent
and
it
rained
all
week
and
you
couldn't
get
away
from
each
other
or
you
were
in
a
hotel
room
and
you
couldn't
get
away
from
each
other.
That's
what
it
means
to
be
under
housed
for
some
of
the
families
in
our
town.
K
What
we
are
talking
about
here
is
a
modest
increase
in
density,
to
allow
a
bunch
more
people
to
have
that
Independence
and
live
on
their
own
in
a
community
that
they
would
like
to
be
in
so
I'd
like
us
to
focus
on
the
people,
not
the
cars.
On
the
subject
of
cars,
you
can
live
without
a
car.
Most
of
the
car
problems.
I
have
seen
as
someone
on
Transit
going
past.
This
site
are
caused
by
the
recreational
facilities
in
the
area,
the
people
that
are
driving
in
for
soccer.
K
We
see
that
where
I
live
as
well
is
that
we
get
periodic
problems
as
people
are
trying
to
park
for
a
sports
game
living
in
a
neighborhood
does
not
give
you
first
right
to
the
street
parking.
It
belongs
to
everyone
that
lives
in
that
area.
Whether
you've
lived
there
10
years,
one
week
or
100
years,
it's
a
shared
resource
and
no
one
has
more
call
on
it
on
others.
If
you're
going
to
make
special
rules
for
this
development,
you
need
to
make
special
rules
for
every
house.
K
You
can't
park
more
cars
and
you
can
park
on
your
property
would
be
a
good
rule
that
would
apply
to
this
Corporation,
but
they
can
only
rent
as
many
spots
as
they
have
and
it
would
apply
to
houses
in
the
neighborhood
that
they
can't
have
more
cars
than
they
are
willing
to
park
in
their
garage
and
in
their
driveway.
We
don't
have
separate
rules
for
separate
types
of
living.
K
This
is
not
about
parking
it's
about
homes.
Please
focus
on
the
people
that
will
get
home
to
this
process
rather
than
what
we're
going
to
do
with
cars,
because
this
is
not
about
cars,
that's
a
possession,
it
can
survive
being
outside
and
you
can
live
without
it,
but
you
need
to
have
a
home
if
you're,
a
human
and
this
city
needs
to
act
to
make
sure
that
its
residents
have
homes.
K
A
A
L
This
is
a
church
doing
right
by
its
Community
during
a
housing
crisis,
and
it's
just
you
know
a
clever
way
to
help
its
Community
with
the
spare
land.
It's
got
and
add
some
extra
housing
in
a
wonderful
Community
for
a
lot
of
new
residents
and
delays
on
this
are
costly
for
the
city
and
for
the
developer
and
I
was
worried
that
we
might
lose
the
solar
panels
in
the
net
zero
aspect
of
the
project.
L
We
saw
and
see
it
get
a
little
worse
by
delays,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
by
moving
it
Forward
today,
that
won't
be
the
case.
But
it's
really
it's
just
everything.
The
official
plan
wants
us
to
be
building
it's
everything
we
want
to
see
in
Suburban
intensification.
You
know
it's
low-rise
forms
that
fit
into
the
community,
even
though
it's
zoned
for
hire
and
they
could
have
built
taller
if
they
wanted
to
it's
dense,
it's
served
by
transit,
it's
walkable,
it's
hopefully
very
green.
L
It
maintains
parking
for
the
market
rate
units
while
moving
us
slowly
towards
safer
streets
that
have
fewer
cars
on
them,
and
it's
very
close
to
The
Orleans
Cumberland
community
resource
center,
which
means
it's
an
incredible
place
for
housing
that
already
has
Services
those
people
need,
and
it's
just
it's
a
really
incredible
development
that
I
think
we
need
to
approve
immediately
and
in
the
interest
of
not
causing
any
further
delays.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
today.
A
A
N
Thank
you,
London
Berlin,
Sao,
Paulo,
Mexico,
City,
San,
Francisco,
Buffalo,
Hartford,
Connecticut,
Minneapolis,
St,
Paul,
Portland,
Oregon,
Raleigh,
and
more
closely
to
home,
Toronto
and
Edmonton.
All
of
these
cities
have
abolished
all
parking
requirements,
municipally
anywhere
in
the
city,
not
just
around
Transit,
not
just
in
the
core,
but
absolutely
everywhere
in
the
city,
including
in
their
suburbs.
London's
have
been
doing
it
since
2004.
N
N
So
if
this
fantastic
development
is
given
a
chance,
I
think
that
in
a
few
years,
people
won't
even
remember
that
this
was
a
controversy
right
now,
and
people
will
appreciate
the
the
moments
in
community
building
that
they
gained
with
new
members
of
the
community,
a
neighborhood
if
this
is
approved.
So
today
the
planning
committee
is
voting
on
giving
81
families
the
opportunity
to
live
in
Ottawa,
including
25
families
that
are
struggling
to
live
anywhere
and
I
hope
that
this
is
just
the
first
step
to
putting
in
housing.
N
Reforms
that
make
Ottawa
go
viral
again
from
you
know,
cartoon
videos
about
our
housing
policies
and
included
in
lists
of
cities
that
lead
in
the
urban
reforms,
and
that
this
development
will
help
make
Ottawa
into
the
intensified
walkable,
Transit,
oriented
and
more
affordable
City
that
everyone
here
I
passionately,
believes
in.
Thank
you.
A
A
O
O
If,
if
all
of
you
got
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
it
from
local
residents,
including
parents
of
children
with
developmental
disabilities,
who
are
quite
desperate
to
have
their
children
be
able
to
eventually
find
a
place
to
live
in
their
community
and
just
as
some
of
our
delegates
today
said,
the
project
speaks
to
so
many
of
the
policy
goals
articulated
by
the
official
plan.
I
think
it
would
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
any
neighborhood.
So
I
have
a
motion
I'd
like
to
put
forward.
O
So
where
this
is
really
just
to
ensure
that
this,
that
should
the
project
pass,
this
committee,
that
it
faces,
No
Further
delays.
So
where
is
the
waitlist
for
affordable
housing
in
Ottawa,
contains
12
000
households
and
whereas
Ottawa
declared
a
housing
and
homelessness
emergency
in
2020,
and
whereas
the
proposed
development
at
360,
Kennedy,
Lane
East
will
provide
much
needed
moderately
priced
rental,
housing
to
81
households
in
Ottawa
and
whereas
subsection
35
5
of
the
procedure
bylaw
provides
that
reports
from
the
planning
and
housing
committee
that
contain
recommendations
with
respect
to
zoning.
O
Bylaw
amendments
may
be
considered
by
Council
without
suspension
of
the
rules,
provided
that
the
staff
report
to
the
standing
committee
was
distributed
to
all
members
of
council
at
least
five
calendar
days
in
advance
of
the
meeting
of
council
there.
It
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
360
Kennedy
Lane
East
rise
for
Council
consideration
at
the
city
council
meeting
of
March
22
2023..
Thank
you
very
much.
A
M
M
M
The
result
of
a
more
thoughtful
approach
to
these
issues
that
were
brought
up
by
over
800
neighbors
of
this
development
is
going
to
result
in
even
a
more
robust
Transportation
plan
for
the
new
tenants
when
they
move
in
and
more
education
for
them
about
what
limitations
about
parking,
but
also
just
better.
Integrating
this
potential
development
into
the
community.
I
just
want
to
make
it
absolutely
clear.
M
Yes,
this
may
result
in
Faster
approvals,
but
it
also
means
that
there
will
be
limitations
placed
on
the
Public's
ability
to
fine-tune
development
proposals
at
their
earliest
stages,
and
that's
why
it
was
important
to
me-
and
it
was
important
to
the
community
to
take
a
little
extra
time
on
this
project
to
get
it
right.
It's
never
going
to
be
perfect.
There's
no
development
that
will
ever
be
absolutely
perfect
in
the
initial
stages,
but
to
take
what
was
it
I
think
it's
been
what
a
week
and
a
half
to
just
have
these
conversations?
M
M
I
want
to
thank
City
staff
for
taking
that
up
for
time
for
doing
the
due
diligence
to
have
that
conversation
and
while
it
may
not
have
resolved
all
of
the
community
members
concerns,
it
did
get
us
further
down
the
path
of
being
closer
to
a
collaborative
approach
to
this
development.
So
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
don't
see
any
issues
with
us
taking
some
time
when
it
comes
to
developments,
knowing
that
we
have
to
get
it
right.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
my
committee.
G
You
Mr
chair,
I,
would
repeat
everything
that
counselor
dudas
just
said:
I
mean
the
conversation
we
had
here
last
time
was
about
not
about
affordable
housing
or
housing.
Everybody's
like
yeah,
okay.
We
all
want
that.
That's
good,
like
that's,
not
even
a
conversation
here,
I,
don't
think
that
we
need
to
have
everybody
agreed
with
that.
It
was
the
details
of
this
application
for
the
parking
just
like
in
another
application.
We
had.
G
It
was
the
details
around
the
garbage
and
if,
if
people
are
just
going
to
say,
oh
well,
all
that
matters
is
affordable
housing.
All
that
matters
is
housing,
then
we'll
have
every
application
come
through
like
this
we'll
just
say:
why
are
we
here?
Well?
Is
it
housing?
Oh,
oh,
then!
Yes,
well
it's
housing,
but
there's
a
problem
with
the
parking.
G
So
we
wanted
to
try
to
sort
that
out
so
I
mean
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
that
I'm
glad
that
this
has
been
sorted
out,
but
in
my
opinion
it
should
have
been
sorted
out
before
it
came
to
climbing
committee
last
time,
like
now
we're
back
here,
delegations
had
to
come
back
here
when
it
could
have
been
sorted
out.
The
conversations
we
had
with
the
developer
and
with
staff
were
well.
Could
this
be
sorted
out?
G
Well,
yes,
maybe
we
consider
it,
and
so
we
we
refused
to
take
that
and
we
had
it
go
back.
We
shouldn't
have
to
do
that.
This
stuff
has
to
be
sorted
out
when
it's
being
discussed
exactly
what
counselor
dudas
just
said.
It
has
to
be
right,
the
first
time
now
that
we
don't
have
site
plan
approval.
This
is
when
it
has
to
be
discussed
well.
G
Yes,
of
course
we
do,
but
it's
about
these
details
now
I
think
that's
what
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
our
time
on
so
I
just
would
say
that
as
a
general
comment,
so
I'll
be
supporting
this
today,
I'm
glad
it
got
worked
out,
but
the
other
comment
I
will
make.
Is
one
of
the
delegations
listed
all
the
studies
that
are
saying
no
parking
limits?
Well,
you
know
what
is
going
to
start
to
happen,
as
it's
already
happening
is
people
say
well,
I
didn't
want
to.
We
heard
this
day.
G
I
didn't
want
to
live
in
the
city
anymore,
I
was
too
busy,
so
I
moved
to
the
suburbs
and
then
okay,
now
the
suburbs
are
getting
too
busy.
So
I'll
move
to
the
rural.
Oh,
the
rural
is
getting
too
busy
I'm
going
to
move
to
almond
iron
Pryor
Renfrew,
Pembroke
padawawa,
you
name
it
as
people
leave
the
city
where
we
then
lose
our
tax
dollars.
G
So
there
is
a
benefit
to
us,
making
every
part
of
our
city
livable,
not
just
one
particular
area
and
have
people
saying
oh
well,
I
can't
believe
you
made
those
comments
about
downtown.
You
know
you're
just
a
Suburban
person,
not
all
of
that
pitting
wants
to
one
against
the
other
is
silliness.
The
reality
is
everywhere.
People
have
to
live.
G
You
want
to
make
sure
it
is
livable
that
they
don't
then
say,
okay
well,
forget
it
I'm
moving
to
Renfrew
like
that's
what
we
don't
want
and
that's
what's
happening,
and
you
listen
to
the
mayors
of
all
those
small
towns
and
they're,
saying
I
can't
believe
the
people
that
are
coming
out
here
now
we
don't
have
enough
affordable
housing.
Now
we
don't
have
the
services
for
the
people
that
are
coming
out
here.
That
is
what
is
actually
happening.
G
So
you
know
the
the
conversations
at
planning
committee
have
to
be
about
what
is
livability
and
not
about
just
housing,
because
we
all
want
that
as
I
was
saying
to
councilor
Leeper
ahead
of
the
meeting.
You
know
the
Prime
Minister
has
just
said
now
that
four
billion
dollars
is
coming
to
cities
if
they
come
up
with
a
plan
and
I
think
we
can
have
a
plan
for
that,
but
at
the
same
time
we'll
have
to
look
at
these
types
of
details
now
and
that
that's
my
main
point
here.
We
all
want
housing.
G
Q
Q
Counselor
dudas
thanks
staff
and
the
applicant
I
was
listening
to
her
scratching
my
head.
Both
of
those
parties
refused,
even
at
the
committee
meeting
a
couple
weeks
ago,
to
go
back
and
have
those
discussions.
It
was
this
committee
that
forced
that
conversation
to
happen
and
I
will
always
listen
to
the
local
counselor
when
she
or
he
comes
to
colleagues
and
says,
listen,
there's
an
issue
in
my
neighborhood
that
we've
tried
to
address.
Can
you
give
me
some
time
between
now
and
the
next
meeting
to
force
all
parties
to
sit
down
and
have
that
conversation?
Q
Q
R
Q
Q
E
Q
Enough,
okay,
but
there
are
other
avenues
that
could
be
taken
if
this
applicant
was
so
Keen
to
build
I
I,
don't
believe
for
one
second,
that
this
delay
between
the
last
meeting.
This
meeting
has
delayed
this
project,
we're
in
the
still
first
day
of
spring.
They
still
have
a
number
of
things
that
they
need
to
iron
out
before
they
start
building.
This
will
be
built.
We've
all
indicated.
We
strongly
support
this
application
and
this
type
of
housing
in
this
particular
neighborhood
and
that
will
be
approved
today
and
has
my
support.
Thank
you,
chair.
S
Yeah
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
applicants
and
to
community
members
who
took
the
time
to
come
out
today.
It
strikes
me
that
most
of
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
are
our
site
plan
issues
they're
not
related
to
the
zoning,
because
it
will,
but
we
do
need
this.
Affordable
housing
I
see
it
in
communities
across
especially
this
type
of
affordable
housing,
which
is
very
family
oriented,
and
that's
something
that
I
I
hope
we'll
see
more
of
well.
S
P
Share
through
you,
it's
not
actually
uncommon.
Many
municipalities
do
not
actually
provide
that
level
of
public
scrutiny
through
site
plan.
So
I
really
do
think.
The
opportunity
exists
at
the
zoning
bylaw
stage
in
collecting
the
right
studies
and
information
that
we
need
to
make
those
decisions
at
that
point
so
as
losing
that
ability
through
site
plan
I
believe
ought
to
ought
to
be
one
of
the
only
municipalities
that
actually
does
consult
on-site
plans.
S
So
this
will
be
a
change
of
culture,
but
also
the
fact
that
families
can't
afford
those
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
They
can't
move
into
that
neighborhood
because
they
can't
afford
those
houses.
So
I
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
been
done
and
the
recognition
that
we
need
these
changes
so
that
families
can
live
in
these
communities
and
enjoy
the
features.
Thank
you.
D
Derek
Madam
Mr
chair,
there's
been
a
number
of
comments
made
around
the
ability
to
influence
site
plan
and
I
do
think.
That
is
something
that
is
worth
addressing
in
a
in
a
broader
sense
in
that
certainly,
it
is
correct
that
through
Bill
109,
the
ability
for
counselors
to
pull
delegated
authority
and
bring
the
item
to
committee
and
Council
has
been
removed.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
Mr
Marie.
That's
that's
certainly
been
my
experience.
I
know,
staff.
The
the
process
of
Consulting
on
site
plan
can
often
be
as
as
rich
and
full
of
meetings
as
the
the
process
of
Consulting
on
zoning.
So
it's
a
it's
a
point.
Well
made
I,
don't
see
any
further
questions.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
vote
on
the
main
item
first
and
then
on
counselor
drosters
motion
to
accelerate
bringing
that
to
council.
If
we
can
is
the
the
main
zoning
report
carried.
I
A
T
As
a
result
of
some
distribution
issues,
The
Province
had
the
pledge
deadline
was
extended
from
March
1st
to
March
22nd.
So
this
item
will
rise
to
council.
This
Wednesday
The
Pledge
and
the
various
actions
that
are
outlined
within
it
will
show
how
the
city
can
facilitate
the
delivery
of
those
151
000
new
homes,
and
it
also
complements
the
housing
action
plan
that
was
recently
released
by
the
mayor.
T
While
the
tasks
ahead
of
us
collectively
are
not
insignificant,
you
will
see
that
the
city
has
a
healthy
Supply
on
its
books.
We've
initiated
many
actions
that
would
allow
us
to
stimulate
further
Supply
Streamliner
processes
and
build
on
and
form
new
Partnerships
as
well
we'll
be
monitoring
as
we
go.
So,
as
I
mentioned
with
me
today
are
David
Wise.
The
director
of
economic
development
of
long-range
planning
at
Royce,
Foo
manager
of
policy
planning
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
them
for
a
brief
presentation.
U
Thank
you,
so
Commitment
Community
members
before
use
ottawa's
housing,
pledge
this
presentation.
The
first
half.
This
presentation
will
focus
on
the
nature
of
the
housing
targets.
Ottawa's
historical
housing
permits
that
have
been
issued,
the
role
of
Ottawa
in
the
housing
market,
the
number
of
stakeholders
and
other
factors
that
go
into
building
housing
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
presentation
will
go
into
a
bit
more
depth
on
the
housing
pledge.
U
So,
in
terms
of
the
the
provinces
goal,
this
government
wants
to
build
1.5
million
new
homes
by
2031.
and
through
build
23
they've
established
housing
targets
for
a
number
of
large
municipalities
in
the
province.
Here
are
the
top
six
on
that
list,
of
which
Ottawa
has
a
target
of
151
000
homes
by
2031.
U
Yeah
historically,
Ottawa
has
averaged
about
7
400
permits
since
2001,
but
as
we
can
see
in
the
blue
and
this
graph
here,
everything
in
the
green
are
actual
historical
Primitives
issued
for
a
calendar
year
and
those
permits
have
increased
in
the
last
few
years.
The
orange
bars
represent
the
target
if
it's
averaged
annually
to
2031..
U
U
U
U
U
U
So
there
are
regulations
from
all
levels
of
government
that
influence
the
construction
of
housing,
available,
land
or
sites
Builders
the
the
capacity
and
the
cost
of
Labor
the
cost
and
availability
of
materials
for
construction
interest
rates
play
a
role,
the
number
of
buyers
and
the
number
of
buyers
that
have
access
to
equity,
the
city's
role
in
the
housing
market.
If
we
look
at
the
housing
market
is
in
terms
of
a
pie,
the
city's
role
has
one
slice
right.
It's
really
focuses
on
that
permissible
Supply
through
our
policies
and
our
regulations,
it's
also
processing
applications.
U
U
U
U
Second,
is
foreign
strategic
Partnerships
with
senior
governments
and
our
housing
providers.
Three
is
to
streamline
our
governance
and
approvals
process
and
forced
to
Monitor
and
reports
on
our
commitments
in
terms
of
stimulating
supply
of
housing.
This
really
speaks
to
The
Guiding
policies,
an
official
plan
and
the
regulations
in
their
zoning
by
law.
U
A
lot
of
this
has
been
accomplished
in
the
official
plan
already
through
its
guiding
policies.
We're
now
looking
to
the
new
zoning
bylaw
update
to
implement
these
permissions
and
densities
and
official
plan
and
there's
also
a
focus
on
permitting
low-rise
missing
middle
housing.
That's
not
there.
Today,
we
also
continue
updating
our
infrastructure
master
plan
and
transportation
master
plan
to
identify
those
projects
in
our
development
charges.
Background
study,
so
we
have
an
idea
of
how
those
projects
can
be
financed
to
the
extent
possible
through
bill
23.
U
U
U
U
U
U
So,
in
terms
of
our
housing
pledge,
we
want
to
fulfill
our
role
to
allow
for
the
construction
of
151
000
new
homes
by
2031.,
by
stimulating
supply
of
housing,
forming
strategic
Partnerships,
streamline
our
governance
approvals
process
and
monitor
our
reports
and
commitments.
Now
the
city
cannot
achieve
ottawa's
housing
market
to
Target
alone.
Even
if
we
hit
all
of
our
actions
100
percent,
we
still
need
the
commitment
and
availability
of
other
stakeholders
to
achieve
our
targets
and
also
the
alignment
of
other
housing
factors.
U
A
S
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
I
appreciate
that
we're
we're
talking
housing
and
we're.
We
have
a
pledge,
but
I
want
to
focus
on
non-profit,
non-profit
housing.
And
what
specifically,
are
we
doing
to
encourage
non-profit
housing,
particularly
working
with
our
partners
and
obviously,
as
chair
of
Ottawa
Community
Housing,
and
we're
the
sole
shareholder
of
Ottawa
Community
Housing?
U
So
Mr
chair,
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
we
identify
in
the
report
in
terms
of
affordable
housing,
components.
I
think,
first
and
foremost,
is
revisiting
the
long-range
financial
plan
to
get
the
financing
available
to
help
those
housing
providers
with
those
for
the
for
the
construction
of
housing.
The
second
is,
we
are.
U
The
housing
services
will
be
working
with
our
corporate
real
estate
office
to
identify
those
Municipal
Surplus
lands
that
are
best
suited
for
housing
and
try
to
advance
those
sites,
make
them
available
to
our
housing
providers
through
Housing
Services
and
then.
Finally,
we
have
some
some
guiding
principles
and
an
official
plan
that
would
speak
to
trying
to
provide
some
additional
processing
efficiencies.
So
we
could
perhaps
look
at
pre-zoning
some
of
these
sites
through
staff
initiated
zoning
by
law
amendments
so
that
they
are
ready
when
that
funding
is
available
for
those
sites.
V
Yeah
counselor,
maybe
if
I
can
just
interject
through
the
chair,
there
are
a
number
of
things,
of
course,
as
we
work
our
way
through
the
bill
109
processes,
we
always
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
coupling
that
the
recognition
of
the
changes
through
Bill
109
and
Bill
23.,
the
Housing
Services
and
the
affordable
home
Provisions
would
be
subject
to
the
DC
and
casual
Parkland
and
CBC
relief.
That
bill
23
also
builds
in
to
development
charges
by
law.
So
there's
a
financial
relief.
V
The
province
is
already
built
in
as
well
as
you
work
your
way
through
the
109
processes
that
our
colleagues
in
development
review
services
are
implementing
as
well.
There
is
consideration
for
how
we
can
provide
a
fast
tracking
mechanism
through
that
pre-consultation
process.
They,
of
course,
would
still
be
subject
to
the
the
very
clear
timelines
that
bill
109
lays
out
for
site
time
control,
so
that
portion
would
be
would
be
subject
to
the
legislative
framework
there,
but
that
initial
piece
as
it
moves
its
way
through
development
abuse
services.
S
A
G
Thank
you
just
following
on
that.
So
what
I
understood
from
prime
minister's
speech
the
other
day
was
there's
four
billion
specifically
for
for
municipalities
that
have
a
plan
in
place.
June
an
action
plan
submitted
that
specifically
for
affordable
housing,
counselor
Kavanaugh
was
very
specific.
Whatever
municipalities
have
that
plan
ready
to
go
by
June,
and
so
my
question
to
you
is-
is
not
some
of
the
work
we're
doing
right
here
for
the
province,
the
exact
same
for
the
federal,
but
the
federal
is
specifically
affordable.
Housing.
V
Mr
chair,
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
overlap,
and
certainly
this
does
set
us
up
for
applications
for
the
housing
action
fund,
certainly
they're,
not
quite
the
same
situation.
That
is
the
federal
program
that
you
do
need
to
run
through
for
the
rapid
Housing
Initiative,
and
that
is
also
with
respect
to
having
shovel
ready
projects
that
are
basically
ready
to
go
that
you
can
invest
in
that
funding.
V
But
they
also
want
to
see
that
there
is
that
Municipal
commitment
towards
the
delivery
of
Housing
and
that
we
are
getting
all
of
the
pieces
together
from
a
whole
city
approach
in
order
to
deliver
on
those
things.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
commonality
between
the
two
and
certainly
having
a
document
that
affirms
the
city.
Commitment
towards
housing
is
something
that
will
have
weight
with
the
federal
initiative
as
well.
G
Thank
you
for
that.
I
from
our
presentation
from
Ottawa
Community
Housing
seemed
to
me.
They
had
quite
a
lot
in
the
pipeline
ready
to
go
so
to
me.
I
was
listening
to
that
announcement.
The
other
day
thinking
Ottawa
Community
Housing
can
just
go
now,
let's
hope
but
anyways.
My
comment
I
want
to
First
want
to
say
for
people
who
aren't
on
this
planning
committee
last
year
in
2022
Canada
North,
we
approved
5100
units
5100.
G
So
if
we
did
that
across
24
awards,
that
would
be
almost
122
000
houses
in
one
year
in
one
year.
Right.
So
part
of
me
thinks
this
is
unrealistic.
What
we're
pledging
here,
but
then
the
other
part
of
me
thinks
it
is
possible.
It's
just
that
what
I'm
hearing
in
Canada
North
now
is
that
we
may
have
approved
5100,
but
whether
they
will
actually
be
built
based
on
interest
rates
and
construction
challenges
and
all
the
rest
of
it
is
a
totally
different
story,
so
it
I
find
this
I
mean
obviously
I'll
support.
G
This
pledge
I
find
this
strange,
though,
because
we
are
really
just
saying
we're
pledging
like
the
real
the
reality
component
of
this.
Any
municipality
can
say
this.
You
know,
that's
the
thing
so
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
grouping
with
a
lot
of
other
municipalities
that
are
saying
sure,
yeah
we'll
do
that
too
no
problem,
but
whether
it
can
actually
happen.
G
One
question
I
just
had
in
terms
of
the
information
we
received
is
there
was
a
comment
in
it
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
just
about
the
report,
but
that
there
are
no
legal
implications
or
challenges
and
I
just
I
know
some
of
the
things
that
are
on
that
list
that
actually
are
tied
up
in
legal
problems
right
now,
but
they're
on
the
list.
Nonetheless,
but
is
what
was
that
common
in
relation
to?
E
G
W
W
U
U
So
I
think
the
province
is
really
looking
for
actions
by
municipalities
on
the
on
our
role
for
the
housing
markets
to
move
that
forward.
So
if
there
was
a
sufficient
capacity
in
the
housing
market
and
everything
else
lined
up,
we
would
theoretically
be
able
to
meet
the
target
through
the
development
pipeline
by
2031..
U
V
To
just
to
supplement
that
a
little
bit,
we
do
have
to
remember,
of
course,
that
we
are
subject
to
provincial
policy
statement
requirements
to
always
have
a
constant
ready
supply
of
land
that
is
always
moving
its
way
through.
So,
as
Royce
has
said,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
land
that
is
constantly
going
through
an
approval
process
to
build
projects
that
are
constantly
working
their
way
through
the
development
pipeline.
Will
they
actually
be
constructed?
V
W
W
Q
Thanks
Mr
chair:
if
I'm
a
private
home
developer,
I
build
90,
95
percent
of
Supply
in
the
city,
private
home
developers
build
our
homes
I
own
Oodles,
of
land,
I
own
significant
land
in
this
city
and
I
control.
The
supply
that
goes
on
to
the
market
and
my
job
is
to
maximize
The
Profit
I
can
make
in
my
homes
not
to
play
along
with
provincial
strategy,
although
they
want
to
look
like
good
players,
their
goal
is
to
get
as
much
money
out
of
their
product
as
possible.
Q
They
could,
they
could
triple
quadruple
their
units
if
they
wanted
to
because
they
have
the
land,
but
they
look
at
all
the
factors
that
goes
into
what
they
sell
housing
for
and
what
that
profit
they
can
make
on
it
and
they
establish
a
Supply
number
to
maximize
what
they
can
get
out
of
it
and
that's
the
challenge.
Is
they
control
Supply
in
this
city
because
they
want
to
realize,
as
the
maximum
amounts
that
they
can
for
their
product?
So
have
we
reached
out
to
private
developers
and
said?
Look:
we've
got
ambitious
Targets
in
this
province.
Q
U
So
Mr
chair,
we
do
have
a
letter
from
the
greater
Ottawa
home
buildings
Association.
It's
part
of
this
report
that
identifies
that
they
would
be
they
are
willing.
They
want
to
cooperate
with
the
city
to
reach
these
targets,
but,
like
I
said,
there
are
many
factors
that
go
into
that
as
well.
While
they
control
the
supply
there.
Also,
it
has
to
be
the
amount
of
buyers
with
access
to
equity.
Q
In
River,
Road
alone,
major
developments,
the
Nelson
Dairy,
six
skyscrapers
hugging
the
Queensway
deferred
because
of
market
conditions,
the
second
hand
Auto
Sales
across
the
street,
from
Westgate
Tower
deferred
because
of
market
conditions.
Canoe
Bay,
remember:
canoe,
Bay
across
from
Muniz
Bay,
that's
gone
badly
up,
they're,
looking
at
a
new
owner
for
that
norbury
residences,
right
beside
where
I
live.
Q
We
approve
this
file
is
about
12
years
old
market
conditions,
so
we
have
approved
major
approved
developments
just
in
River
Ward,
where
they're
waiting,
they're
waiting
for
Ideal
Market
conditions
before
they
build
and
I'm
sure.
There
are
multiple
examples.
We
had
a
development
in
your
ward
chair
where
he
pulled
out
because
again
market
conditions
didn't
look
at
look
like
it
was
going
to
be
profitable
for
them.
So
when
I
sit
at
the
ammo
table,
I
hear
from
my
colleagues
about
how
extremely
vicious
the
provincial
targets
are.
Q
Q
The
province
is
going
to
tie
our
funding
that
they've
cut
from
us
to
The
Pledge
and
then,
when
municipalities
or
regions
don't
make
it
they're
going
to
say.
Oh
it's,
the
municipality
or
Region's
fault.
They
didn't
do
enough
to
for
their
own
targets
to
be
met
and
they
didn't
contribute
to
the
provincial
Target.
I
just
see
this
being
set
up
that
when
targets
aren't
achieved
10
15
years
from
now,
the
province
is
going
to
point
their
finger
and
say
it's
your
fault,
not
ours,
and
yet
they're
the
ones
that
are
contributing
to
significant
Revenue
loss.
Q
So
that
said,
I
believe
that
targets
should
be
created.
I
do
believe
that
you
need
to
aim
towards
something
and
I
I
do
support
a
provincial
Target
and
even
municipal
or
Regional
targets,
but
they've
got
to
be
reasonable,
achievable
and
realistic
and
I
will
do
everything
I
can
to
ensure
that
we
build
as
much
housing
as
possible
and
we
achieve
those
targets.
We
are
in
a
housing
and
homelessness
crisis
and,
as
my
colleagues
have
pointed
out,
we
need
a
diversity
of
housing.
Q
This
is
very,
very
important,
but
I
just
want
us
to
be
realistic
and
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
the
public,
whether
it's
a
pledge
or
not.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
get
to
that
point.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
caution
on
the
table
this
morning,
but
Mr
chair,
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Brockington,
just
before
I,
move
on
to
counselor
dudas
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
question
that
you
posed
received
a
clear
answer
and
I.
You
I
heard
a
very
clear
question,
which
was
have
we
heard
from
the
home
builders
that
they
are
committed
to
building
more
housing,
accelerating
the
rate
at
which
they're
building
housing
and
the
answer
that
I
heard
was
that
you
know
they've
they've
supported
our
pledge.
A
That's
different
from
I
think
the
answer
to
the
councilor
Brockington
was
seeking,
which
was
a
yes
or
no
as
to
whether
there's
a
commitment
to
accelerate
the
building
of
housing,
depending
on
the
conditions
that
we
create
for
them.
If
we
follow
through
and
I
I
know,
we
will
on
the
constituent
parts
of
our
pledge,
particularly
as
they
relate
to
zoning
permissions
and
process
improvements.
Do
we
have
that
commitment
from
the
home
builders
in
Ottawa
that
they
will
match
our
efforts
with
greater
efforts
to
build
more
housing
more
quickly.
V
Mr
chair,
that's
probably
something
that
would
be
best
if
we
actually
had
a
home
building
representative
actually
come
to
the
table
and
actually
speak
to
their
intention,
of
course,
their
private
businesses.
This
not
much
that
we
can
speak
on.
We
can't
speak
on
their
behalf.
That's
up
to
them.
However,
we
know
that
they've
been
very
actively
engaged
with
the
city
through
the
official
plan
process.
V
So
they
can
have
more
assurances
to
what
the
regulatory
climate
is
for
them
going
forward
and
what
the
timelines
are
that
are
going
to
be
going
forward.
So
they
can
work
out
their
performance
in
better
detail.
That's
about
as
much
as
from
the
municipality
side
that
we
can
do.
We
would
have
to
have
a
home
building
representative
here
to
speak
to
more
directly
the
counselors
question.
A
M
M
M
One
of
the
things
is,
though:
development
needs
supporting
infrastructure
and
historically,
the
city
has
had
a
lackluster
response
to
that.
We've
built
whole
subdivisions
without
supporting
or
increasing,
or
improving
the
infrastructure
to
accommodate
that
growth.
We've
had
infill
projects
that
haven't
provided
amenities
close
by
that
supported
that
growth.
We
see
those
changes
reflected
in
the
official
plan,
now
we're
in
the
process
of
talking
about
fast
tracking
developments
that
will
require
fast
tracking
infrastructure.
So
my
question
to
staff:
is
you
mentioned
before
that
with
Bill
23?
M
V
I'll
I'll
try
and
do
the
first
answer
and
then,
if
my
answer
is
unsatisfactory,
then
then
the
voice
will
correct
me.
So,
just
with
respect
to
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
been
going
through,
we
have
done
the
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan,
Parker
Recreation
and
Community
facilities.
Master
plan,
sorry
about
that
last
year,
which
laid
out
where
the
community
facilities
Parks
all
of
those
pieces
would
be
going
through.
V
Of
course,
the
changes
from
Bill
23
on
the
amendments
to
the
Parkland
dedication
bylaw
have
amended
that
we
will
need
to
be
going
back
through
and
doing
those
revisions
for
those.
We
also
have
the
transportation
master
plan
infrastructure
master
plan
as
well
that
are
currently
in
progress
right
now.
That
will
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
and
Council
later
on
this
year,
as
they
move
their
way
through
with
respect
to
Bill
23.
V
We
do
have
to
note
that
it
does
change
the
game
with
respect
to
the
allowance
for
up
to
three
residential
units
permitted
on
any
parcel
of
urban
service
lot
and
two
of
those
units.
If
there
are
additional
dwelling
units
is
allowed
by
Bill
23
are
exempt
from
DCS
and
cash
in
the
Parkland.
How
that
ripples?
Its
way
through
is
something
that
we
are
still
trying
to
wrap
our
heads
around
along
with
industry
that
does
affect
all
neighborhoods
across
the
city
in
all
zones.
V
That's
something
that
we
are
going
to
be
coming
back
to
with
Council
as
part
of
the
financial
obligations
leading
into
the
budget
2024
and
also
leading
into
our
DC
bylaw
update
for
next
year.
So
that's
not
something
that
we
that's
something
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
now,
and
it
certainly
it
is
on
staff's
mind.
V
But
that
is
something
that
we
would
bring
back
to
council
later
this
year
as
part
of
that
budget
process,
when
we
really
start
to
understand
what
are
the
fun
applications,
financial
implications
that
are
built
into
Bill
23
and
how
that
affects
in
turn,
our
ability
to
support
and
Service
the
the
lands
and
also
to
provide
the
amenities
that
our
residents
expect
both
existing
and
future
residents
as
they
go
forward.
There
are
a
lot
of
Dimensions
to
this.
Fortunately,
it's
not
a
pat
answer,
but
it
is
a.
V
U
I
think
that's
excellent
context.
Mr
chair.
In
addition,
the
province
has
not
provided
any
details
on
what
level
of
funding
would
be
provided
with
the
pledge
and
to
make
up
for
any
shortfalls
from
Bill
23
other
than
the
commitments
to
make
municipalities
like
bull
so
I
think
that's.
What
we're
working
with
right
now
is
just
that
lack
of
details,
but
moving
forward,
we've
positioned
ourselves
to
access
that
funding.
V
Just
just
one
final
comment:
just
with
back
to
the
back
to
councilor
Curry's
a
question
with
respect
to
the
housing
action
fund.
That
is
an
opportunity
as
well
for
the
city
to
look
through
and
see
if
there
are
significant
infrastructure
Investments
that
we
cannot
necessarily
pay
for
out
of
our
own
Municipal
offers.
But
we
can
in
fact
actually
apply
for
some
federal
support
to
provide
assistance
for
some
of
those
infrastructure
projects
that
can
help
to
stimulate
that
housing
Supply.
So
it
is
not
necessarily
DC's
or
property
taxes.
M
I
appreciate
that
we're
we're
in
the
state
of
a
bit
of
flux
right
now
and
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainties
and
I
I
appreciate
your
response.
It
really
drives
from
the
fact
that
we
don't
necessarily
know
how
this
is
going
to
play
out.
I
wish
we
had
that
in
front
of
us
today.
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
because
you
know,
as
I
said,
I
support
this
I
think
we
have
to
be
ambitious.
We
all
know
we
need
more
housing
of
All
Sorts
in
our
city,
so
we
have
to.
We
have
to
strive
for
that.
K
M
M
You
know
that
funding
that
we're
being
made
whole,
you
know
once
again,
I,
don't
want
to
see
that
communities
are
being
built
or
our
buildings
being
built,
and
we
don't
have
the
supporting
infrastructure
to
accommodate
it,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
just
goes
back
on
to
our
taxpayers
and
then
we
have
to
we
have
to
support
that
through
our
own
budget.
So
it
is
a
concern
to
me,
as
I
said.
M
X
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you.
Councilor
just
asked
for
your
your
question
and
comments
in
in
growth
areas.
This
is
a
huge
concern.
We
we
simply
cannot
build
complete
communities
without
that
critical
infrastructure,
so
that
is
going
to
be
very
important,
going
forward,
I
just
to
be
clear
on
on
what
we're
voting
on
here.
This
pledge
is
basically
asking
us
to
endorse.
Bill
23.
am
I
correct
in
in
understanding
that
and
if,
if
we
don't,
we
lose
the
ability
to
ask
for
financial
assistance
for
impacts
related
to
the
new
legislation.
U
So
Mr
chair,
I,
would
not
characterize
the
pledge,
as
endorsing
Bill
23
The
Pledge
responds
to
what
the
province
has
specifically
asked
for
municipalities
to
pledge
to
support
the
housing
targets
that
is
established
in
Bill
23
Bill
23
has
many
other
components
that
are
not
just
applying
that,
but
other
acts
as
well.
So
my
comment
would
be.
The
pledge
is
really
focused
on
the
housing
targets
within
Bill,
23
and
municipalities,
roles
to
providing
those
housing
and
how
municipalities
can
fulfill
their
role
within
housing,
market.
U
X
I
I
agree
with
councilor
Brockington
I
am
uneasy
about
how
this
pledge
might
kind
of
get
used
against
us,
but
there's
some
really
good
things
in
the
pledge,
so
I
do
want
to
support
it
but
piggybacking
on
on
some
of
the
questions
my
colleagues
have
been
poking
at
regarding
industry
support.
I
know
that
the
industry
has
been
critical
of
our
new
Parkland
bylaw,
the
high
performance
development
standards
and
the
vacant
property
tax.
X
V
Yeah
counselor
that
through
the
chair,
that
is
an
excellent
question.
We
are
going
to
be
releasing
the
next
quarterly
update
on
the
housing
stats,
we'll
be
coming
forward
to
the
finance
committee
fairly
soon.
We
have,
of
course,
seen
a
change
in
the
market
conditions
from
the
interest
rates.
Things
like
that
overall,
we're
looking
at
about
a
35
drop
in
Market
activity.
Significantly,
as
as
counselor
Brockington
has
noted,
a
lot
of
apartment
construction
projects
have
put
the
brakes
on
over
the
last
little
bit.
That's
not
unexpected.
U
X
Right,
okay,
well
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
Success,
you
know
given
the
broader
context,
but
you
know
I
think
we
all
want
to
support
in
an
Ideal
World.
We
want
to
support.
What's
what's
in
the
build,
we
want
to
see
that
happen,
but
I
just
don't
know
if
that's
the
the
path
we're
on
given
all
those
considerations
but
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
O
O
O
So
the
reason
I
ask
this
is
I'm
just
wondering
if,
as
part
of
the
Pledge,
if
housing
acquisition
has
been
explored,
At
All
by
staff,
because
according
to
Carlton
University
Professor
Steve
Pomeroy's
research,
we're
losing
seven
affordable
homes
for
everyone
that
we
build,
and
so
in
some
cases
it's
because
of
demolitions
and
replacement
with
with
much
smaller
and
more
expensive
homes
or
because
we
have
a
lack
of
tendency
control
in
Ontario.
So
somebody
moves
out.
The
landlord
has
absolutely
no
limit
on
the
amount
that
they
can
jack
the
Reds.
U
V
Things
like
that
and
certain
rewards
was,
of
course
is-
is
an
ongoing
challenge
that
we
see
and
that's
where
we
see
that
that
competitive
fight
for
those
square
meters
of
land
that
are
available
to
maximize
the
value
out
of
those
lands.
So
the
policies
in
the
official
plan
do
look
at
us
to
spread
that
diversity
of
Housing
Opportunity
across
the
city,
Bill
23,
put
together
a
bit
of
a
down
payment
on
that
by
now,
allowing
100
of
all
residential
service
lands
to
have
three
units
on
them.
V
So
that's
that's
something
that
the
province
has
done
and
is
currently
in
force
right
now,
but
there
is
certainly
still
more
of
that
of
that
Equity
argument
that
needs
to
reprocess
through,
as
we
work
our
way
through
implementing
That
official
plan
process,
and
the
intention
of
that
is
also
to
again
provide
that
opportunity
for
other
housing
opportunities
to
expand
across.
So
we
hopefully
maybe
not
necessarily
see
a
lot
of
that
pressure
that
is
being
put
on
only
a
few
neighborhoods.
You
can
spread
the
load
a
little
bit
once.
O
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
certainly
support
increasing
density
across
the
entire
city,
not
just
in
the
downtown
Wards,
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
pledge.
I
think
it's
a
good
thing,
but
you
know,
as
professor
counselor
Kavanaugh
was
saying,
you
know,
Supply
alone
is
not
going
to
increase
affordability
at
all.
O
We
can
build
and
build
and
build,
and
that's
not
going
to
make
that's
not
going
to
make
a
dent
in
the
wait
list
for
affordable
housing,
so
I
really
look
forward
to
seeing
us
increase
our
investment
in
working
with
non-profits
and
with
Ottawa
Community
Housing
to
build
the
kind
of
housing
that
will
actually
solve
chronic
homelessness
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
A
A
U
Mr,
chair
I,
won't
be
able
to
answer
on
behalf
of
the
province,
but
the
pledge
is
characterizing
the
city's
role
in
terms
of
housing
providing
housing.
So
the
pledge
is
really
focusing
on
that
and
the
actions
to
move
housing
forward
within
our
role,
and
we
certainly
hope
that
the
province
could
recognize
that
if
we
do
our
part
as
much
as
we
can
that
there
are
other
things
that
also
need
to
occur
to
produce
that
many
houses.
A
V
Chair,
that's
very
true,
and
that's
actually
one
of
the
the
really
laudable
pieces
of
where
we're
at
we
are
ahead
of
the
curve.
When
we
talk
about
all
of
the
municipalities
across
Ontario,
we
do
have
a
new
official
plan
that
supports
many
of
these
policies
that
are
in
place.
We
are
already
undergoing
work
on
on
expanding
those
learning
permissions.
V
That
is
not
the
case
in
a
number
of
municipalities
that
are
across
Ontario
that
are
going
to
have
to
do
a
considerably
more
work,
with
structuring
their
policies,
structuring
their
programs
to
get
themselves
into
shape.
So
that
is.
That
is
something
where
we
have
the
opportunity
here,
where
we
do
have
a
number
of
those
programs
in
place.
What
this
does
is
collects
them
all
into
one
place
which
which
in
itself
has
the
ability
to
focus
the
city's
efforts
on
housing
supply
has
positive
value.
A
A
V
I
think
chair,
that,
as
it
goes
along,
the
housing
action
plan
is
the
opportunity
in
the
admissible
housing
pledge
again
is
the
opportunity
for
us
to
collectively
look
at
as
a
city
and
as
an
apartment
on
what
those
actions
might
be
as
they
flow
through
staff
will,
of
course
be
looking
at
how
we
can
break
those
down
and
look
at
additional
opportunities
if
those
additional
opportunities
arrive.
As
we
said,
as
we
explore
the
development
review
approvals
process
through
Bill
109,
we
see
other
opportunities
there.
We
would
certainly
bring
those
back
to
council's
attention.
Okay.
A
U
That's
correct,
Mr,
chair
and
also
within
the
timelines
as
well
so
2031.
So
that
means
that
in
many
of
the
future,
any
none
of
the
future
neighborhoods
that
Council
adopted
an
official
plan
or
that
the
province
added
they
would
not
come
online
by
2031.
So
this
is
you
characterize
that
well,
but
also
with
that
time's
rise,
and
when
can
the
building
permit
be
issued
by
2031.
A
The
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw
review
is
going
to
add
further
zoning
permissions
that
should
stimulate
the
creation
of
even
more
housing,
whether
that
is
through
greater
intensity
to
low-rise
scale
in
our
neighborhoods
on
minor
corridors
or
around
Transit
oriented
demand
around
our
Transit
sanctions.
Do
staff
have
and
I'm
trying
to
think
back
to
our
growth
management
discussions
of
the
last
term,
but
can
staff
ballpark
for
me
the
number
of
additional
units
that
could
be
completed
by
2031
in
the
wake
of
the
passage
of
new
permissions
through
the
comprehensive
Zone
and
bylaw
review.
V
Counselor
again,
the
the
challenge
that
we
have
with
respect
to
the
the
changes
from
Bill
23,
but
also
the
changes
that
are
with
respect
to
the
zoning
bottle
as
we
go
through,
is
that
the
city
has
collectively
Housing
Industry
in
Ottawa
has
been
very,
very
good
at
building
high-rise
construction,
and
it
has
been
very,
very
good
at
being
building
singles
and
semis.
It
has
not
been
very
good
at
building
missing
middle
because
we
have
not
provided
the
opportunity
to
do
it,
and
so
there
is
certainly
there
is.
There
is
townhouse
development.
V
There
are
missing
middle
developments
that
have
gone
forward,
but
they're
fairly
few
and
far
between,
and
they
tend
to
be
more
bespoke
developments,
one-off
type
developments.
So
the
question
will
be
as
we
move.
Our
way
through
is
to
see
how
our
home
building
industry
reacts
to
these
new
opportunities,
how
the
workout
business
case
models
for
how
to
produce
these
types
of
Housing
and
what
the
uptake
in
those
might
be.
V
We
have
seen
in
some
other
cities
been
watching
Toronto
with
some
interest
to
see
some
of
the
changes
that
they've
been
making
again.
They
have
very
much
the
same
challenge
that
we
do,
though,
as
well
again
with
a
significant
disparity
between
what
they
do
allow
and
what
what
restrictions
are
in
place
with
respect
to
that
home
building
industry
opportunity
there.
So
really
it
really
is
going
to
be
a
monitoring
exercise
to
see
how
the
industry
reacts
to
these
new
permissions.
V
How
they're
able
to
generate
the
business
models
to
to
do
these
things
in
a
more
significant
number
and
volume
than
done
before,
but
also
in
terms
of
from
the
municipality
side,
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
rules
in
place
to
to
get
the
quality
of
development
that
we're
also
expecting
so
not
a
clean
answer,
Mr
chair.
But
it
is
something
that
again.
This
is.
A
Okay,
I
I,
don't
mean
to
belabor
the
point,
but
do
we
know
how
the
province
is
going
to
measure
us
for
success
in
achieving
what
we've
pledged
to
do
and
I'm
thinking
here
of
that
disparity
between
a
number?
In
our
report
that
says
there
are
something
like
153
000
approved
units
at
an
advanced
state
of
approval,
and
then,
when
I
look
at
the
cmhc's
most
recent
numbers
for
housing
starts
in
Ottawa
there
were
64
in
January
right.
A
Clearly,
something
is
going
to
be
going
on
beyond
the
municipality's
ability
to
control.
When
there
are
just
64
housing
starts
in
the
city
in
the
month.
Are
we
going
to
be
held
accountable
for
the
achievement
of
something
that
is
in
the
hands
of
external
Market
forces
or
or
Market
Decisions
by
the
developers
themselves?.
U
U
The
Pledge
identifies
how
municipalities
can
fulfill
their
roles
into
moving
forward
with
the
construction
of
that
housing,
so
one
interpretation
could
be
if
municipalities
identify
the
actions
that
they
pledge
to
do
for
their
enrollment
housing
market
and
they're,
able
to
show
some
measures
of
success.
In
that,
then
their
pledge
has
been
fulfilled.
A
So,
with
respect
to
councilor
kits's
question
in
terms
of
Are
We
setting
ourselves
up
for
Success,
my
argument
would
be
that
we
are.
We
are
pledging
to
undertake
actions
that
we
are
are
largely
as
a
council
already
pledged
to
do
through
our
policies
in
the
official
plan
and
and
other
policy
documents,
we
already
have
a
significant
instruction
pipeline
approved
if
developers
are
willing
to
put
shovels
in
the
ground.