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Planning and Housing Committee
Date: Monday, February 27, 2023
A
Where
do
I
get
this
to
be
around
all
right
good
morning?
Everyone
welcome
to
the
planning
and
housing
committee
meeting
first
off.
I
would
just
like
to
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
located
on
the
unseated
and
never
surrendered
territory
of
the
Algonquin
island
nation,
whose
culture
and
presidents
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
It
is.
B
A
Thank
you
and
chair
derruz
is
here.
He
is
ex-officio
to
our
committee.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
attending
the
Iraq
meeting
on
Friday
as
an
ex-officio
member,
so
you
know
good
to
see
you
George
thanks
for
being
here
and
counselor.
Luloff
is
here
with
us
as
well.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
Zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
4.2
to
4.8
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted.
A
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicants
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning,
bylaw,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
March,
8
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
Council
coordinator,
Kelly
groszier
sitting
next
to
me.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest?
A
A
E
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
staff
have
received
that
direction
and
taken
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Johnson.
So
we'll
consider
that
item
is
that
item
carried
with
respect
to
1835
Stittsville
Main
Street.
There
are
no
presentation,
no
delegations,
no
correspondence
I,
believe
we
have
the
applicants
with
us.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this,
do
the
applicants
wish
to
speak
they're
just
joining
now.
I
A
K
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
the
report,
planning
and
housing
committee
approved
the
following:
defer
the
report
indefinitely
until
the
director
of
planning
Services
deems
the
issues
corrected
and
that
staff
be
authorized
to
publish
a
revised
report
in
the
agenda
in
a
future
planning
and
housing
committee.
Be
it
further
resolved
that
notice
be
provided
prior
to
this
item.
Returning
to
the
planning
and
housing
committee
does.
A
A
L
A
B
B
A
L
Replacing
the
text
of
the
report
recommendation
one
with
the
following
text:
that
planning
and
housing
committee
recommend
Council
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
2008-250-48605
Campo
drive,
as
shown
in
document
one
by
adding
a
new
exception
to
promote
a
car
wash
as
an
ancillary
used
to
a
gas
bar
as
detailed
in
document
two
and
two
replacing
the
text
on
page.
Eight
that
reads:
need
that
lifted.
Up
that
reads:
exception
2598.
Additionally,
staff
recommend
minor
changes
to
the
provision
of
exception,
2598
to
clarify
the
wording
without
changing
the
original
intent
with
the
following
text:
new
exception.
L
Additionally,
staff
recommend
adding
a
new
Urban
exception
in
order
to
permit
a
car
wash
as
an
ancillary
used
to
a
gas
bar
on
the
land
subject
to
this
application,
but
not
on
lands
that
are
currently
zoned,
Urban
exception,
2598
and
are
not
subject
to
this
application
and
three
replacing
document,
one
location
map
and
Zoning
e-map
with
attachment.
One
to
this
motion
and
four
replacing
document
two
details
of
recommended
zoning
with
attachment
two
to
this
motion
and
therefore
be
resolved.
That
there'd
be
no
further
notice.
A
G
A
An
item
on
the
official
plan
2023
implementation,
councilor
Brockington,
has
asked
that
that
be
held
we'll
deal
with
that.
African
delaying
for
the
status,
update,
planning
and
housing
committee
increase
the
Motions
for
the
period
ending
February
10
2023.
Is
that
information
item
received
wonderful.
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
moving
back
to
the
first
item
that
we've
held.
A
K
The
floor
first,
thanks
chair.
Whereas
respect
to
the
report,
the
incorrect
Ward
was
listed
on
the
cover
page
in
both
English
and
French
and
whereas
the
word
boundary
review
is
subject
of
the
subject,
site
is
now
located
in
Ward,
19,
Orleans,
South,
Navan
and
whereas
the
council
for
Ward
19
has
been
involved
in
the
review
of
the
zoning
application.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
the
report,
the
cover
page
be
updated
in
both
English
and
French,
with
the
following
Ward
Orleans
South
Navan.
A
R
The
subject
site
is
in
Orleans,
East
urban
community
and
as
east
of
page
now
then
and
Renault
Rhodes
intersection.
The
site
has
two
frontages
one
on
Trails
Edge
way
and
the
second
one
on
Renault
Road,
the
this
is.
There
is
currently
a
large
bungalow
on
the
site,
with
a
pool
and
several
mature
theater
hedges
next
slide.
Please
The
Proposal
is
for
a
planned
unit,
development
containing
24
residential
units,
and
there
are
29
vehicle
parking
spaces
on
the
site,
five
of
which
are
for
visitors,
parking,
there's,
also
20
bicycle
parking
spaces
interspersed
throughout
the
site.
R
The
cedar
Hedges
are
proposed
to
be
retained.
The
Western
Cedar
hedge
will
help
spring
the
proposed
enclosed
recycling
shed,
as
well
as
the
Earth
bins
from
the
interior
side
yard
of
6157
Renault
Road
next
slide.
Please,
the
proposed
elevation
height
on
Renault
road
is
three
and
a
half
stories
high
for
the
stocked
back-to-back
residential
units,
similar
to
the
height
of
the
Development
Across
Renault,
Road
known
as
Le
creme,
and
it's
seen
in
the
illustration
to
the
right
of
the
top
of
the
page.
Pardon
me
the
slide.
R
R
The
site
is
currently
Zone
development
Reserve,
which
recognizes
lands
intended
for
development,
Urban,
future
Urban
Development
in
areas
designated
as
neighborhoods.
In
the
official
plan,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
rezone
the
site
to
residential
fourth
density,
subzone
M,
with
an
exception
to
permit
a
planned
unit,
development
consisting
of
16
back
to
box,
stacked
residential
units
in
one
building
and
eight
back
to
back
townhouse
dwellings
in
another
building.
R
Another
exception
being
provided
is
to
prohibit
the
more
intense
development
or
building
forms
such
as
low-rise
apartments
and
retirement
homes.
The
Suburban
transect
and
neighborhood
policies
encourage
low-rise
intensification
to
allow
a
range
of
housing
options.
The
goal
of
these
policies
and
zone
is
to
evolve
the
community
to
a
15-minute
neighborhood
over
time.
R
The
uses
have
been
limited
to
low
rise
and
the
higher
density
low-rise
forms
such
as
Apartments
have
been
restricted
compatibility
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
For
example,
the
Stacked
residential
units
being
proposed
are
fronting
Only
onto
Renault
Road
and
are
in
keeping
with
the
Stacked
units
across
the
road,
whereas
the
townhouse
block
fronting
onto
Trails
Edge
way,
has
a
lower
height
profile
and
is
in
keeping
with
the
lower
high
profile
along
Trails
Edge
way.
There
is
also
sufficient
infrastructure
capacity
to
support
the
proposed
development.
R
The
addition
of
these
24
residential
units
will
have
minimal
impact
on
the
existing
Road
Network
and,
finally,
the
parking
reduction
that
is
being
sought
is
minimal
and
will
not
apply
to
visitor
parking.
The
site
is
providing
a
minimum
of
one
parking
space
per
residential
unit,
plus
the
five
required
for
visitors.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
There
is
an
opportunity
for
the
applicants
to
make
their
presentation
now
we'll
hold
questions
for
staff.
Until
after
the
applicants
and
delegate
sorry
delegation
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
our
Rosaline
or
Peter
or
George
Elias,
either
online
or
in
person
to
speak
to
the
item.
A
T
So
I'm
Rosalind
Hill
the
architect
on
the
file,
and
this
is
an
image
on
the
Renault
roadside,
so
you
can
see
as
the
planner
presented
The
Proposal
is
three-story
proposal,
it's
very
residential
in
in
its
sort
of
visual
characteristics,
even
more
so
than
the
the
three-story
a
building.
That's
across
the
street,
which
is
a
little
bit
more
formal.
T
This
one
is
very
personal,
with
doors
that
are
very
visible
from
the
street,
so
IT
addresses
the
street
in
a
way
that
is
going
to
improve
the
the
character
and
dynamic
of
the
street
it's
attractive
to
look
at
and
interesting
with
porches,
so
as
the
street
begins
to
attract
more
pedestrians,
particularly
the
bus
stop
in
front.
This
would
be
a
great
addition
to
the
streets
to
really
personalize
the
street
next
slide.
Please.
T
This
is
the
site
plan
and
I
think
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
because
the
landscape
plan
is
a
little
easier
to
see
on
the
screen
one
more.
Please
there
we
go
so
you'll
see,
there's
the
the
block
of
Stack
Down
houses
on
the
Renault
roadside.
That's
the
image
that
you
just
saw
and
then
a
black
block
of
townhouses
on
the
trails
Edge
side
in
the
center
of
the
block
in
the
center
between
those
two
blocks
is
a
parking
court
with
trees.
T
All
the
way
around
it
you'll
see
that
Pathways
for
pedestrians
connect
the
the
site
across
from
the
Renault
roadside
to
the
trails
Edge
side
looping
around
that
Center
Court
and
there's
lots
of
trees
proposed.
So
it
will
be
a
very
green
feeling
site
and
we're
retaining
the
cedar
Hedges
that
exist,
which
are
really
really
big.
So
it
will
be
a
very
green
kind
of
location
next
slide,
please
so
that
that
is
our
Renault
Road
context.
T
So,
though,
it
is
a
product
with
stacked
units,
the
it's
a
very
neighborly
kind
of
design,
it's
been
designed
to
to
welcome
people
and
make
this
feel
like
a
community
next
slide.
Please
there
you
see
that
block
at
a
distance
from
sort
of
the
Trail's
Edge
direction,
and
you
get
a
sense
of
that
Center
Parking
Court,
which
is
actually
designed
to
allow
for
occasional
community
activities,
instances
in
which
you
might
clear
out
the
cars
and
use
the
space
for
Community
activity
play
day
or
a
garage
sale
next
slide.
Please.
T
This
is
the
elevation
of
the
three-story
building,
so
you'll
see
this
is
wood.
Siding
there
are
references
to
different
traditional
architectures,
a
real
emphasis
on
those
entrances
with
the
Peaks
coming
down
to
draw
the
eye
towards
The,
Pedestrian
entrances
and
you'll
see
outdoor
living
space
on
a
large
deck
for
every
unit.
T
Next
slide,
please
here
you're
seeing
the
context
at
the
back
on
the
trails
Edge
side.
This
Edge
obviously
has
a
very
different
characteristic,
so
we
see
these
two-story
older
in
development
on
the
bottom
slide
and
then
the
very
new
Next
Door
development
and
next
slide.
This
is
my
last
slide.
Oh
no,
sorry!
These
are
the
neighbors
immediately
to
the
right
of
us
on
Trails,
Edge
and
last
slide.
Please.
T
This
is
our
two-story
building
elevation
on
that
side,
so
you'll
see
here
that
the
height
is
in
contact
with
its
surrounding
again
still,
this
strong
emphasis,
drawing
the
eye
to
the
pedestrian
entrance
and
lots
of
great
outdoor
living
space
and
the
introduction
on
this
block
of
some
masonry.
So
on
this
side
we
see
buildings
that
have
masonry
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
in
keeping
with
that
characteristic
of
the
neighborhood
as
well.
T
A
A
U
There
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
know
that
there
was
some
significant
Community
concerns
and
that
the
applicant
made
quite
a
lot
of
changes
to
accommodate
the
community
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
wanted
to
briefly
speak
to
that
Dynamic
and
and
how
it
helped.
You
developed
the
project
into
this
form.
S
So
originally
the
the
project
had
a
number
of
the
site
plan
that
we
submitted
had
an
access
out
on
to
rental
road,
and
it
also
combines
two
sets
of
stock
units,
so
it
was
actually
a
32
unit
original
submission
that
we
made
and
we've.
We
had
concerns
about
density
and
we
also
had
concerns
about
traffic
and
transportation,
especially
the
access
out
on
to
your
staff
were
very
concerned
about
the
access
that
we
were
providing
out
onto
a
rental
road.
S
So
in
evaluating
the
Transportation
options
we
looked
at,
we
went
back
and
we
did
a
an
analysis
with
a
transportation
consultant
who
actually
recommended
said
that
the
most
appropriate
access
was
no
access
out
onto
rental.
Road.
Convert
that
to
to
Green
Space
make
your
access
out
onto
Trails
Edge
way.
Your
impact
will
be
much
smaller
from
a
transportation
perspective.
S
Any
combination
with
that
we
redo
the
units
to
address
the
the
density
issue,
so
we
restructured
our
entrance
and
we
re
and
we
reduced
the
density
to
be
more
consistent
along
the
trails
the
Trail's
Edge
way
portion.
We
also
made
sure
that,
whatever
parking
configuration
that
we
use,
we
maintained
the
required
visitor
parking
because
on
tree
parking
you
know
people
how
are
visitors
going
to
come
to
the
site
and
and
in
changing
the
density,
we
change
the
parking
requirements.
S
S
When
we
maintain
the
visitor
parking
one
per
space,
it
is
appropriate.
We're
also
very
close
to
well
very
close
we're
we're
within
official
plan
guidelines
to
the
trans
station
on
Brian
Coburn.
There
is
an
ability
for
people
from
this
site
to
walk
internal
to
the
community,
to
that
transit
station
and
be
able
to
to
take
public
transit,
which
is
very
consistent
with
the
official
plan
that
you
just
approved.
U
A
V
But
what
we're
concerned
about
is
that
we
continue
to
see
new
developments
proposed
for
our
area,
one
after
another,
with
no
infrastructure
deficiencies
being
addressed.
So
we
are
grateful
to
the
developer
for
addressing
our
some
of
our
concerns,
and
I
must
say
that
the
design
is
is
quite
appealing.
V
So
while
6173
Renault
is
not
huge,
it
is
24
new
units
replacing
one
Bungalow
other
Bungalows
on
the
street
are
similarly
up
for
sale
and
in
every
likelihood
will
be
developed
in
the
same
manner.
There's
a
four
a
minimum
of
four
that
are
next
slide.
Please
you
can
go
that
a
minimum
of
another
four
or
so
Bungalows
that
are
up
for
sale
on
Renault,
which
are
being
proposed
to
for
the
similar
type
of
development.
V
On
this
map.
You
will
see
the
starred
location
where
this
development
is,
and
you
will
see
in
Orange
all
of
the
proposed
and
approved
partially
approved
developments
that
are
taking
place
in
our
area.
These
add
up
to
more
than
13
000
new
units
not
cited
or
the
potential
for
future
infill
developments,
but
this
with
the
significant
Dr
Zone
lands
in
this
EUC.
V
So
I
want
to
emphasize
the
big
picture
here
that
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
development
going
on
and
still
have
not
had
infrastructure
keeping
Pace
next
slide.
Please,
the
local
roads
bear
the
brunt
of
these
new
developments,
but
not
one
infrastructure.
Improvement
has
been
made
to
accommodate
this
growth.
The
traffic
impact
study
for
this
development
was
done
in
complete
isolation.
Without
consideration
given
to
all
the
traffic
that
is
coming
Downstream
from
East
and
from
South
areas,
we
have
had
two
deaths
from
Reno.
We've
had
two
critical
injuries.
V
We
want
to
know
what
is
the
threshold
required
to
have
the
city
respond
rather
than
acknowledge
to
to
change
the
infrastructure
in
our
area.
Renault
Road
currently
sees
18
000
cars
in
heavy
trucks,
construction
vehicles
all
day
on
a
non-arterial
road
meant
as
an
original,
Farm,
Road
and
the
city
traffic
counts
have
verified
this.
So
to
suggest
that
developments
will
have
a
nominal
effect
on
traffic
is
hard
to
take
next
slide,
please
so
I
just
this
is
just
to
quickly
show
you.
The
traffic
patterns.
V
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
but
just
to
show
you
that
so
much
of
the
traffic
needs
to
head
from
east
to
west
and
then
they
access,
Anderson
Road,
which
you
can
see
on
the
slide.
The
picture
on
the
left
hand
side
of
that
slide.
We
have
done
traffic
studies
and
showed
that
75
of
the
of
traffic
is
turning
at
Anderson
to
access
the
Hunt
Club
Walkley
employment
nodes.
V
V
Again
in
there's
little
blue
dotted
lines
on
this
map
and
you
can
see
the
where
all
these
new
homes
are
being
developed
and
you
can
see
where
the
LRT
is
in
relationship
to
all
of
this
development.
It
is
quite
a
bit
north.
We
do
not
have
easy
access
to
it.
The
Blair
station
is
indicated
you
can
see
where
it
is.
We
can
drive
12
minutes
to
Blair
station,
but
a
bus
currently
takes
us
45
minutes
to
get
to
Blair
next
slide.
Please.
V
So
I
know
the
developer
says
that
we're
working
towards
a
15-minute
community
and
I
know
that's
the
goal
for
the
city.
Our
closest
grocery
store
is
four
and
a
half
kilometers
to
the
Northeast.
We
have
no
efficient
direct
Transit.
You
can
see
some
of
the
stats
that
are
there.
We
are
a
car
center
community
so
by
eliminating
parking
spaces,
we
are
a
little
bit
concerned
about
that.
Our
local
roads
are
already
operating
at
capacity.
V
V
V
V
Here's
what
it
is
like
to
walk
along
Navan
road
to
catch
buses.
These
are
students
getting
off
a
bus.
Next
slide
again
same
thing.
This
is
what
we're
dealing
with.
So
we
would
like
to
wrap
up
by
saying
we
are
grateful
to
the
developer
for
doing
for
addressing
some
of
our
concerns,
but
we
are
asking
for
the
city
to
please
address
some
of
our
infrastructure
concerns
before
continuing
with
development
after
development
after
development.
Thank
you
thank.
W
Yes,
thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today.
Heather
I
completely
agree
with
everything
you
said
in
your
presentation.
I.
Think
members
who
are
on
this
committee
last
term
would
have
heard
me
talk
about
these
issues
quite
a
bit,
and
you
know
I
too,
want
to
highlight
and
applaud
the
applicant
for
really
responding
to
public
feedback
with
changes
to
their
application.
I
think
this
is
a
great
example
of
how
we
can
work
together
to
enhance
an
application.
W
So,
as
you
saw
in
the
presentation,
without
upgrading
the
road
Network,
the
transit,
The,
Pedestrian
and
cycling
infrastructure,
bringing
amenities
to
the
area,
we
are
approving
applications
that
continue
to
fly
in
the
face
of
our
official
plan
and
all
of
the
goals
that
we've
set
as
a
council
at
15-minute.
Neighborhood
that
we
are
striving
for,
we
are
talking
about
32
units
today,
a
good
missing
middle,
an
applicant
that
has
been
working
well
with
our
staff
and
with
the
community,
so
I
don't
want
to
penalize
them
for
that.
W
But
I
am
telegraphing
to
this
committee,
especially
new
members,
who
have
had
less
experience
with
this
area
for
staff
for
applicants
wanting
to
build
in
this
area.
We
are,
we
are
at
the
boiling
point
you
just
saw
just
how
much
development
is
is
planned
for
this
board
and
I
think
it's
especially
frustrating
for
residents
of
the
area
to
hear
those
justifications
of
while
we're
close
to
a
transit
station
for
a
brt.
That's
not
in
the
affordable
network,
not
on
the
horizon.
You
know,
if
you
take
a
bus
from
that
Park
and
Ride.
V
Thank
you
for
the
question
so
in
previous
delegations,
for
example,
with
respect
to
the
kaivan
development
at
the
corner
of
page
and
Navin.
With
respect
to
coming
developments
throughout
Trails
Edge,
we
have,
we
have
begged,
to
have
Navin
Road
urbanized.
Currently
it
is
unsafe
for
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
for
frankly,
for
anybody
not
lit
ditches,
ditch
lined
no
sidewalks
and
heavily
trafficked
at
this
stage.
V
We
are
not
expected,
I,
don't
know
how
to
expect
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
whatnot
to
access
that
area
safely.
The
second
thing
is:
I've
lived
in
this
area
for
15
years
and
Renault
Road
still
has
a
temporary
sidewalk
from
at
the
intersection
of
Navin
road
heading
west,
I,
I'm,
I
can't
believe.
15
years
later,
we
don't
have
a
sidewalk,
whereas
new
communities
throughout
the
area
actually
do
have
sidewalks.
V
V
W
W
V
X
Coming
out
today,
Ms
Buchanan,
it's
always
nice-
to
hear
from
you
in
the
community
in
Bradley
Estates.
Just
one
quick
question
for
you:
you've
been
talking
about.
You
know
trying
to
get.
You
know
some
of
the
traffic
out
of
the
area,
I'm
wondering
with
the
NCC
approving
option,
seven
of
the
Brian
Coburn
Rapid
Transit
Corridor
extension
relieve
some
of
the
pressures
that
you've
identified
here
today.
V
For
for
communities.
The
the
road
bisects
the
community,
in
the
same
way
that
Main
Street
would
bisect
Ottawa,
East
and
I
need
people
need
to
understand
and
that,
because
we
are
such
a
huge
growing
area,
the
road
is
not
capable
of
taking
all
that
that
traffic
and
whether
it
be
going
east
or
west,
north
or
south.
We
have
we're
boxed
in
that
option.
Seven
or
a
version
of
option.
X
A
Thank
you
and
you
know,
for
those
who
are
new
on
the
committee.
This
is
not
an
issue
about
what
you've
heard.
For
the
last
time.
I
know
our
East
10
colleagues
are
very
active
on
the
the
transportation
infrastructure
in
East
End.
So
are
there
any
further
questions
for
Heather
Ms
Buchanan
see
none
Heather.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
today.
Y
Chair
through
you,
in
this
particular
case,
the
application
did
not
trigger
a
traffic
impact
assessment,
meaning
that
the
the
rates
were
too
low
to
do
so.
So,
in
this
case,
we
actually
worked
with
our
transportation
project
manager
to
run
those
numbers
for
us
to
give
us
a
sense
of
what
those
Peak
trips
look
like.
We
also
work
with
our
traffic
assessment
team
to
tell
us
what
on-street
parking
looks
like
in
this
area.
We
also
looked
at
intersections
in
the
area
to
tell
us
about.
Y
What's
failing
so
on
that
front,
we
understand
that
there's
about
seven
vehicles
in
peak
hour
generated
from
this
project.
We
understand
there
to
be
ample
parking
off
street
parking
for
the
short-term
visitors
in
this
area,
and
we
understand
that
the
nearby
intersections
at
this
point
are
not
failing.
So
those
are
some
of
the
the
factors
that
we
look
at
when
making
these
kinds
of
decisions
on
these
applications.
K
Okay,
yeah,
thank
you.
I
think
that'd
be
helpful.
It's
although
Renault
has
sidewalks
Navan
does
not,
and
I
did
check
the
travel
planner
and
it
advised
me
to
if
I
wanted
to
catch
a
bus
from
here
to
walk
down
Abbott
Road.
So
it
is
I'd,
be
very
curious
about
what
the
what
the
plans
are.
Future
plans
to
urbanize
that
part
of
that
part
of
Navan
Road
in
particular,
definitely
seems
like
something
that's
needed
in
this
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
W
Thank
you
good
question
and
we
are
I
will
say
we
are
actively
working.
You
know
with
staff
on
all
of
these
things,
but
as
the
applications
continue
to
come
in,
we
have
another
opportunity
to
sort
of
explain
that
the
current
state,
the
reality
for
residents
today,
is
all
these
challenges
that
we
Illustrated
I
was
just
wondering,
because
we
do
have
several
applications
like
this,
where
it
is
a
number,
that's
not
triggering
a
traffic
assessment
or
impact
study.
W
Y
Share
through
you
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
question
that
would
be
best
directed
to
one
of
our
transportation,
colleagues
that
are
on
the
call
counselor
kids,
if,
if
we
could
turn
it
to
either
Elizabeth
Murphy
or
Frank
McKinney,
because
I
know
they
are
looking
at
exactly
that,
those
failing
intersections
the
cumulative
impact
of
development
when
it's
time
to
budget
for
certain
area
improvements,
so
if,
if
either
and
I,
see
them
both
on
the
screen,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
them.
Thank
you.
Z
Z
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
growth
projects
that
we
have
identified
for
this
year
is
the
mayor,
blue
Road,
widening
it's
a
two
million
dollar
project
and
Frank
McKenney
is
here
today.
He
can
speak
to
that
in
in
more
depth.
We
have
also
identified
with
a
new
traffic
control
devices
at
various
intersections
mirablue
and
Navin
Joshua
and
Renault
and
Milton
and
Navin
Road.
Z
We
have
been
following
the
intersection
of
Navan
and
Renault
quite
carefully
as
part
of
a
motion
that
was
identified
at
Council.
We
have
been.
We
have
agreed
to
monitor
it
every
year
in
it
in
2022.
It
was
operating
at
a
very
good
level
of
service,
and
we
will.
We
have
asked
that
it
it
be
monitored
again
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
Z
We
also
have
we
have
an
intersection,
functional
design,
study
or
mayor
blue
and
the
Acura
that's
coming
up
this
year
as
well
as
Brian,
Coburn
and
Teflon
road.
So
these
are
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
area
in
general.
That
will
help
and
assist
with
a
lot
of
the
traffic
concerns
and
things
that
you
see
and
with
that
I
will
pass
it
to
Frank
McKinney,
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
mayor
blow
roadwinding
yeah.
So.
I
I
I
W
W
Blur
is
a
north-south
connection.
We've
been
talking
about
the
challenges
with
East-West
traffic
Navan
road,
so
I
think
that
this
conversation
is
is,
as
you
stated,
sort
of
better
had
with
respect
to
the
TMP
and
and
some
of
the
work
that's
happening
in
transportation
committee,
but
it's
it's
also
important
to
have
it
here
at
planning,
because
the
applications
are
still
coming
Fast
and
Furious,
while
we're
awaiting
what
might
get
addressed
with
the
TMP.
W
So
that
is
important
for
this
committee
to
understand
is
that
you
know
it's
32
units
this
week
in
two
weeks,
it's
going
to
be
another
32
units.
After
that,
it's
going
to
be
150
units
and
it's
this
cumulative
impact
people
are
these
homes
are
being
built.
These
cars
are
being
added
to
the
road.
We
don't
have
the
transit,
we
don't
have
the
walkable
amenities,
so
that's
sort
of
I
think
the
the
point
that
the
delegation
was
making
and
that
you'll
all
hear
me
talk
Lots
about.
So
thank
you.
A
That's
extremely
extremely
well
put
Council
kits,
I
would
just
remind
members.
There
are
about
a
dozen
members,
so
the
public
who
are
hoping
to
chat
about
another
file.
That's
here
so
I
don't
want
to
delve
too
deep
into
the
the
broader
plan
for
East,
End,
Transportation
infrastructure,
but
understanding
it
may
play
into
your
decision
on
how
to
vote
on
this
file.
We'll
move
to
counselor
dudes.
AA
Yes,
thank
you,
I
I,
wasn't
I
wasn't
going
to
speak
to
this,
but
I
I
do
want
to
strongly
echo.
My
colleague,
Catherine
Kitt's
comments,
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
community
has
such
a
huge
issue
with
Transportation.
It's
not
just
because
it's
the
infrastructure
wasn't
built
when
the
houses
were
built
or
that
more
houses
are
also
being
built.
It's
also
because
the
zoning
hasn't
been
upheld
to
allow
for
commercial
walkable
amenities.
AA
You
know
to
buy
a
bag
of
milk.
You
have
to
get
in
your
car.
You
can't
actually
physically
from
the
vast
majority
of
this
community,
walk
or
bike
or
take
a
bus,
and
even
if
you
do
get
in
your
car
to
go
to
a
you
know
a
nearby
shop
you're
talking
10
minutes,
because
you
have
to
reroute
around
all
the
the
enclosed
roads
this
community.
You
know
we
talked
somebody
said
a
new
residential
development.
Here
parts
of
this
community
are
nearing
20
years
or
plus,
and
they
still
don't
have
adequate
sidewalks
and
I
I.
AA
Think
about
what
counselor
Gower
mentioned
about
Renault
having
sidewalks?
Well,
yes,
absolutely
and
Council
Gower
you're
right.
There
are
section
that
do
but
then
there's
sections
where
it
has
a
temporary
sidewalk
that
has
basically
little
pylons
up
because
it's
never
been
instituted.
This
truly
remains
a
community,
a
booming
Community
built
around
rural
roads
with
no
amenities.
So
you
know,
I
I
was
listening
to
the
delegate,
Heather
Buchanan
and
she
has
been
here
on
many
occasions.
AA
The
Community
Association
has
been
here
on
many
okay
and
you
know
her
slide
about
the
many
many
different
residential
developments
being
drops
in
a
bucket
was
apt
because,
frankly,
that
bucket
has
been
overflowing
for
a
very
long
time,
and
you
know
for
me:
I
I,
look
at
this
file.
I!
Think
it's
a
wonderful
file,
I'm,
so
happy
to
hear
that
the
developers
working
with
the
community
and
and
that's
a
huge
step
in
the
right
direction.
AA
I'm
also
happy
to
hear
that
these
Transportation
items
will
be
dealt
with
through
the
TMP
or
at
least
starting
to
be
worked
on
after
years
and
years
of
it
being
ignored
in
good,
conscious,
I
can't
support
this
file.
I
will
not
be
supporting
residential
development
in
this
community
until
I
know
that
commercial
amenities,
you
know,
walkable
features,
cycling
features,
Road
features
Transit.
These
things
are
actually
being
addressed.
This
is
sadly
a
beautiful
neighborhood.
However,
it
was
built
exactly
the
opposite
of
how
we
want
to
see
our
neighborhoods
built
across
our
city.
AA
It's
the
exact
opposite
of
what
we
try
to
achieve
in
our
new
official
plan.
So
until
I
start
seeing
those
pieces,
I
just
won't
be
supporting
further
residential
I
think
this
is
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
These
conversations
are
taking
place.
We
need
to
start
seeing
action.
These
people
have
been
waiting
too
long
for
it,
so
I
digress,
but
I
couldn't
help,
but
to
weigh
in
for
a
moment.
L
So
I
have
a
very
high
level
question
and
I
just
want
to
preface
it
by
saying
this
is
very
similar
to
what
we
are
talking
about
in
Canada
all
the
time.
I
thought
that
was
quite
funny,
the
Phantom
brt
as
that's
something
we
we
I
have
to
tell
the
people
in
Canada.
That's
what
you
refer
to
it
as
because
the
brt
at
March
Road
is
something
that
people
are
wondering
about
and
I
just
want
to
say.
L
So
what
our
delegate
said
is
you
had
13
000
units
coming
right,
the
one
year
that
I
was
been
on
Council
in
Jenna's
place.
We
approved
15
5100
units
in
Canada
all
based
on
the
fact
that
we
would
have
this
bus
Rapid
Transit
coming
up
March
Road,
and
when
is
that
going
to
happen,
but
that
is
the
the
basis
of
it.
Oh
well
it'll
be
coming,
and
so
my
high
level
question
is
so
we
have
a
planning
act.
So
we
have
this
application
here,
the
planning
act.
It
follows
the
planning
act.
L
You
know
we
wouldn't
have
a
major
argument
other
than
the
fact
that
the
infrastructure
isn't
there.
Potentially
the
15-minute
neighborhoods
is
not
there
and
we
have
Bill
23.
That
has
said
what
it
said.
We
have
a
promise
that
the
transportation
and
master
plan
may
have
other
things
coming
in
it.
But
if
we
didn't
approve
this,
it
would
go
to
the
Olt.
L
It
would
be
turned
over
and
would
the
development
charges
then
be
enough
to
make
sure
we
do
all
that
we
want
to
do
here
in
Navan,
and
you
know
the
same
would
apply
to
Canada
the
concept
being
that
we
have
these
development
charges
built
into
these
applications.
Do
they
actually
pay
for
what
we
need
to
have
in
terms
of
Roads
bus,
Rapid,
Transit
sidewalks,
because
otherwise
we
say:
okay,
we're
not
doing
this.
Yet
until
all
the
infrastructure
is
there
and
we
have
the
money
for
it
and
then
it
gets
overturned
at
the
Olt.
F
Mr
chair,
no
individual
site
would
provide
enough
funding
for
the
development
charge
items
that
are
related
to
support
the
development
charges.
Background
study
collects
funds
from
projects
across
the
city
to
to
fund
a
specific
list
of
projects
and
priorities
that
are
identified
in
the
in
the
in
the
development
charge.
Background
study
those
projects
are
fed
into
that
process
through
the
transportation
master
plan
and
the
infrastructure
master
plan
and
the
affordable
networks
and
the
affordability
lens
that
is
provided
through
that
I.
F
AB
AB
Mr,
chair
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
it
will
necessarily
be
approved
because
I
I
don't
know
what
committee
and
Council
are
going
to
do
with
this
application.
It
is
something
that
they're
entitled
to
put
to
point
to
and
ask
the
tribunal
to
take
into
consideration
if
the
matter
ended
up
in
front
of
the
Tribunal.
AC
A
A
Thank
the
the
key
is
that
we
are
our
transportation.
Master
plan
has
to
be
an
honest,
Transportation
master
plan
that
that
speaks
forthrightly
to
the
resources,
the
amenities,
the
infrastructure
that
we
actually
intend
on
building,
there's
a
Carling
brt
that
is
justifying
development
down
Carling
the
Baseline
brt
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
the
controversial
file
on
that
one
within
the
next
few
months,
and
these
are
lines
on
a
map
that
the
the
developers
are
able
to
use
to
justify
their
developments.
H
Was
just
going
to
to
add
to
counselor
Curry's
comments,
it's
like
a
chicken
and
egg
situation
where,
even
in
the
non-server
Suburban
words,
you
know
right
in
the
heart
of
of
the
urban
Decor
we
have
the
Baseline
rapid
bus.
Corridor
is
a
good
example
very
similar
to
your
merch
Road
example,
where
we're
seeing
applications
for
some
very
large
developments,
and
everyone
wants
to
reference
the
future
brt,
and
rightly
so,
because
I
do
believe
this
will
be
built
and
I
do
believe.
It
will
be
a
good
Transportation
complement
to
these
dense
developments.
H
But
existing
residents
are
saying:
well
wait
a
minute
if
we
have
development
for
the
next
10
15
years
before
these
brts
are
developed,
where's
everyone
going
to
park.
Where
are
the
people
who
have
cars,
because
the
developers
also
don't
want
to
build
same
number
of
parking,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
like
driving
a
standard
vehicle
where
you
have
to
accept
that
there's
going
to
be
some
infrastructure,
that's
not
there!
H
Yet,
while
we,
while
we
build
these
new
developments
and
there'll,
be
some
developments
and
and
infrastructure
will
have
to
you
know
be
built
up
over
many
years.
You
can't
have
everything
that
you
need
all
at
once,
but
the
frustrating
part
for
existing
communities
is,
they
don't
think
existing
neighborhoods
existing
communities
can
handle
the
influx
of
this
new
density.
H
I
think
they
can,
but
it's
going
to
be
rough
in
the
first
few
years.
So
it's
very
common
situation
that
I'm
hearing
today
that
we
see
in
my
award
and
other
Awards
and
there's
no
sort
of
perfect
equilibrium
point
where
you
can
welcome
more
developments
in
lieu
of
the
infrastructure
that
people
perceive
as
absent
or
not
there.
W
Just
to
wrap
up
quickly,
I
will
I
will
challenge.
My
colleague
I
think
it's
it's
not
common.
What
we're
seeing
here
in
Bradley,
Estates
and
Orleans
South
Navan
because
of
the
issue
with
the
stalemate,
with
the
NCC
on
advancing
our
transportation
Network.
So,
even
if
we
had
a
windfall
of
money
tomorrow,
we
cannot
Advance
any
of
these
plans.
We
have
and
I
think
that
makes
it
different,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
sort
of
signal
what
what
Tim
Mark
was
saying.
W
You
know
if
we
vote
this
down,
we
don't
have
a
good
chance
at
the
Olt,
and
so
I
want
to
applaud
the
applicant
for
working
with
the
community
and
making
significant
changes
on
this
application.
We're
seeing
a
reduction
of
height,
a
reduction
of
units,
they
change
the
materials
they
were
using.
They
preserved
mature,
Cedar
Hedges
to
give
more
of
a
buffer.
They
changed.
The
location
of
the
garbage
like
these
are
really
good
things
and
I
don't
want.
W
W
This
conversation
around
the
cumulative
impact
is
very
important
because
we
will
have
other
applications
come
forward
for
this
area,
where
it
is
a
high
number
of
units,
and
perhaps
the
applicant
is
not
working
as
well
with
the
community,
so
I
I'm
I'm
raising
the
flag
today,
I'm
I'm
saying
this
is
a
signal
for
what's
to
come,
but
in
this
instance
you
even
heard
you
know
from
the
delegate
from
the
Community
Association.
They
are
appreciative
for
what
the
applicant
did
on
this
file.
So
thank
you.
A
G
Q
J
M
M
AA
AD
AD
AD
So
the
subject
site
is
presently
occupied
by
a
church,
a
portable
and
a
parking
lot.
An
existing
church
will
remain
along
Kennedy,
Lane,
East,
there's
a
mix
of
uses
and
dwelling
types.
The
south
and
east
lane
of
Kennedy
Lane
East
is
characterized
by
detached
dwellings,
open
space
and
institutional
uses.
The
north
and
west
side
of
Kennedy
Lane
East,
is
characterized
by
detached
dwellings
and
townhouse
dwellings.
Next
slide,
please.
AD
So
the
site
is
well
connected
to
a
mix
of
land
uses
where
daily
and
weekly
needs
can
be
accessed
within
50-minute,
walk
that
includes
shops,
Services,
food,
Green,
Space
and
Parks.
Sidewalks
are
present
on
the
east
and
south
side:
east
south
side
of
Kennedy
Lane
East
from
Preston
Drive
to
the
vehicular
axis
of
Queenswood
Ridge
Park
130
meter
stretch,
and
there
are
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
Preston
Drive.
AD
Can
you
go
back
one
Ridge,
River,
Ridge
Crescent,
so
on
bus
35?
It's
a
three
minute
bus
ride
from
here
to
plaster
Orleans
to
see
Transit
stop.
So
you
can
see
the
transit
stop
up
there
and
plaster
lean
station
is
approximately
1.6
kilometers
Northwest
of
the
site,
approximately
a
20
minute
walk
and
in
the
future
plaster
leaning
station
will
be
connected
to
the
LRT.
AD
AD
So
the
proposal
supports
compact
development
with
a
range
of
housing
types,
and
the
proposal
will
support
active
transportation
and
Transit
and
reduce
car
dependency,
enable
people
to
live
car
light
or
car
free,
the
three-story,
stacked
dwellings
above
the
street,
the
park
and
the
private
way.
It's
blocks
one
two:
three:
four:
six
and
seven
and
two
story:
dwellings:
block
five,
sorry,
two-story,
townhouse
dwellings,
block
five
and
eight
about
detached
lines
with
Frontage
on
Mountainside
Crescent
and
the
Queenswood
Villa
retirement
community.
AD
AD
So
the
site
is
currently
zoned
minor
institutional,
Zone,
Sub,
Zone
B
and
the
maximum
permitted
Building
height
in
the
zone
is
18
meters.
The
current
zoning
does
not
permit
a
planned
unit
development,
which
means
two
or
more
residential
use
buildings
on
the
same
lot,
nor
does
it
permit
stacked
dwellings
or
townhouse
dwellings.
AD
The
urban
exception
will
permit
the
place
of
worship,
use
to
continue
a
residential
parking
space
rate
of
0.75
per
unit
and
a
visitor
parking
space
rate
of
0.19
next
slide.
Please
planning
staff
recommend,
recommend
approval
of
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
at
360,
Kennedy,
Lane
East,
and
the
proposal
aligns
with
the
official
plan.
These
are
select
policies
that
it's
supported
next
slide.
Please
so
one
way
to
increase
housing,
affordability
is
to
increase
density
and
reduce
parking
requirements.
Next
slide,
please
so
here's
a
breakdown
of
the
affordable
units.
AD
AD
So
six
of
those
place
of
worship
parking
spaces
can
also
be
used
for
visitor
parking
when
they're
not
being
used
for
the
place
of
worship,
use,
paid
parking
spaces
are
going
to
be
available
on
site
for
the
stack
dwelling
units
and
if
renters
in
the
stacks
dwelling
units,
don't
need
the
parking,
then
they
don't
have
to
pay
for
it.
The
parking
is
rented
separately
from
the
units
the
Market's
going
to
decide
who
gets
what
and
renters
can
choose
their
residents,
knowing
if
it
includes
a
parking
space
next
slide
please.
AD
AD
So
we
heard
some
concerns
about
this
proposal.
The
theme
that
emerged,
the
most
was
that
people
were
concerned
about
transportation
and
parking
people
expressed
concern
that
no
traffic
impact
assessment
was
done
further,
that
the
cars
that
were
going
to
be
associated
with
the
81
new
residential
units
and
people
were
worried
that
it's
going
to
increase
pressure
on
street
parking
and
that
new
residents
will
misuse
the
adjacent
parking
lot.
That's
in
the
park
next
slide
please.
AD
AD
Next
slide,
please!
Oh
sorry,
this
is
no
sorry
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
point.
The
city
has
on-street
parking
restrictions
and
residents
can
contact
by
law
enforcement
to
minimize
any
spillover
problems
currently
along
Kennedy
Lane
East.
There's
a
combination
of
no
parking
and
time
limited
parking
and
a
parking
Supply
study
was
done
to
summarize
parking
considerations
and
justify
a
reduced
residential
parking
space
rate.
A
L
AD
A
C
Great
thank
you
to
the
chair
and
members
of
committee
I'll
just
share
if
we
can
have
the
presentation
put
up
as
well
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
my
name
is
Andrew
Hannaford
I'm,
an
associate
with
mhbc
planning
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
who
is
Kindred
works.
I'm
joined
today
by
Carly
Forrester,
a
senior
planner
with
Kindred
works
as
well
as
Keenan
Hewitt
with
kpnb
Architects.
We
also
have
Wayne
swans
Swanson
story
with
JR
Studio,
who
are
our
Landscape
Architects
Indiana
green
with
ba
group,
who
are
traffic.
C
Consultants
for
this
file
will
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
obviously
is
traffic
specifically
is
a
big
issue
raised
with
this
proposal,
so
this
application
proposes
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
to
enable
intensification
of
the
site,
including
retention
of
the
existing
place
of
worship.
The
introduction
of
a
planned
unit,
development
with
81
dwelling
units
in
both
stacked
and
townhouse
forms
of
the
81
units
all
are
proposed
to
be
rental
units
and
31,
are
proposed
to
be
affordable
rental
units.
C
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
I
want
to
thank
Staff
first
for
the
recommendation
report
and
for
the
significant
collaboration
that
has
occurred
since
the
initial
pre-consultation
meeting
with
City
staff
in
May
2021.
Following
our
initial
meeting
with
staff
and
the
application
was
submitted
for
zoning
by
law,
Amendment
and
site
plan
approval
in
January.
In
April,
we
held
a
community,
a
public
information
meeting
with
City
staff
and
councilor
luloff
to
gather
Community
input
and
feedback
on
the
proposal.
C
These
comments
from
the
city
staff
and
the
public
were
then
incorporated
into
our
second
submission,
which
was
made
in
November
2022.,
we're
pleased
to
be
before
the
committee
for
consideration
of
our
requested
zoning
bylaw
Amendment.
We
have
reviewed
the
staff
report
prepared
by
Mr
Ramirez
and
we're
in
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendations.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
C
As
noted
in
the
staff
report,
the
subject
lands
are
located
within
the
Queenswood
Heights
neighborhood,
with
Frontage
on
Kelly
Street
East
and
a
budding
Queenswood
Ridge
Park.
The
site
is
located
within
15
minute,
walking,
distance
of
the
St
Joseph
Corridor
and
Orleans
Town
Center,
as
well
as
the
planned
LRT
station.
At
plus
door
Orleans,
the
surrounding
neighborhood
consists
of
a
predominantly
low-rise
residential
uses,
including
a
mix
of
single
detached,
duplex
and
townhouses,
which
do
range
in
height
from
one
to
three
stories
within
the
neighborhood,
but
next
slide.
C
The
site
currently
consists
of
Queenswood
United
Church,
which
is
significantly
set
back
from
the
street,
and
the
majority
of
the
site
is
underutilized,
consisting
of
surface
parking
and
open
space.
Next
slide,
please
quickly,
as
mentioned
by
Lucy
Ramirez,
our
Otto's
former
official
plan,
which
was
applicable
at
the
time
of
application
designated
the
site
as
general
urban
area,
which
permitted
the
full
range
of
housing
types
and
institutional
uses.
As
our
proposed,
the
predominant
form
of
intensification
within
the
former
official
plan
was
ground.
Oriented
multiple
unit
housing,
as
proposed.
C
The
former
official
plan
also
spoke
to
allowing
alternative
development
standards
for
affordable
housing
in
November.
Ottawa's
new
official
plan
was
approved
by
the
province.
The
new
official
plan
designates
the
site
as
neighborhood
again
permitting
a
range
of
residential
and
non-residential
uses,
but
specifically
noting
the
predominant
built
form
is
to
be
missing:
middle
housing
and
Innovative
building
forums.
The
neighborhood's
designation
permits
a
low-rise
buildings
up
to
four
stories
in
height,
and
the
proposed
proposed
development
contains
a
mix
of
two
and
three-story
dwellings,
both
below
the
permitted
height
for
the
site.
C
The
new
official
plan
also
further
prioritizes
intensification
directing
10
to
15
of
all
new
residential
units
to
be
affordable.
The
proposed
development
is
in
full
alignment
with
the
direction
of
the
new
official
plan,
as
it
provides
for
missing.
Middle
housing
below
the
maximum
permitted
height,
provides
for
a
gentle
intensification
as
directed
by
The,
Province
and
City,
and
provides
for
affordable
housing
and
retention
of
the
existing
Church
on
the
site.
C
Next
slide,
please
the
site
and
the
zoning
is
currently
zoned
minor
institutional,
again
permitting
place
of
worship,
Community,
Center
retirement,
home
daycares
to
a
maximum
height
of
18
meters
or
six
stories
on
the
site.
Our
proposed
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
seeks
to
rezone
the
site
to
residential
fourth
density.
This
would
maintain
the
place
of
worship,
daycare
and
Community
Center
permissions,
while
also
permitting
the
proposed
residential
uses.
We
have
proposed
site-specific
yard
setbacks,
including
six
meters
side
and
rear
yard
setbacks
and
a
three
meter
front
yard.
C
There's
also
two
areas
identified,
and
this
was
a
direct
result
of
community
feedback,
but
in
the
seniors
home
to
the
North
and
the
existing
residences
to
the
east,
where
the
height
would
be
limited
to
8.5
meters,
which
is
two-story
townhouses,
we
are
proposing
a
minimum
parking
rate
of
0.75
parting
spaces
per
unit
with
visitor
parking
spaces
at
0.19,
and
the
place
of
worship
will
additionally
provide
six
spaces
which
can
serve
both
uses
on
the
site.
I'll
then
pass
it
to
Keenan
on
the
architecture.
AE
AE
The
units
are
arranged
around
a
Central
Loop,
providing
access
to
each
unit,
and
particular
attention
was
paid
to
connectivity
throughout
the
site
through
the
design
of
pedestrian
Pathways,
as
well
as
a
green
spine
through
the
middle
of
the
site,
to
provide
enhanced
natural
features
and
encourage
a
sense
of
community.
The
existing
church,
as
mentioned,
will
be
retained
and
dedicated
parking
provided
blocks.
AE
Five
and
eight
again,
as
was
mentioned,
were
reduced
in
height
now,
composed
of
two-story
Town
Homes
to
respect
the
height
of
the
existing
homes
along
Mountainside
Crescent,
as
well
as
the
Queenswood
Villa
retirement
community
to
the
north
and
as
Andrew
mentioned
many
setbacks
have
been
respected
throughout
the
site,
again
paying
particular
attention
to
the
existing
residence
retirement
community,
as
well
as
the
Queenswood
Ridge
Park.
Next
slide.
Please.
A
AE
AE
There's
a
series
of
three-story,
Town,
Homes,
sorry,
three-story,
stack,
dwellings
and
Townhomes
throughout
the
site,
the
which
provides
sort
of
a
gentle
increase
in
density
and
plays
into
the
affordability
model
that
will
be
spoken
to
afterwards.
Next
slide,
please
and
then
finally,
recognizing
the
climate.
We're
in
we're
not
shy
to
show
this
in
a
winter
setting.
AE
But
what
this
image
highlights
in
particular
is
what
you
can
see
in
the
center
of
the
image,
with
the
three
doors
each
of
the
Stacked
dwellings
will
house
an
accessible
unit
on
the
ground
floor
that
would
be
a
fully
accessible
designed
unit
making
for
a
total
of
20
accessible
units
across
the
site
and
I
will
pass
it
on
to
Carly
for
the
next
slide.
Please.
AF
Next
slide,
please
I
wanted
to
focus
on
our
sustainability
goals
as
a
corporation
on
the
graph
on
the
left
illustrates
are
building's
Impact
versus
a
typical
code
building
project
of
a
similar
scale
and
type.
As
shown,
we
are
able
to
reduce
our
energy
use
intensity
by
about
82
percent
just
based
on
design
currently,
and
it
is
our
intent
in
the
future,
and
it
has
been
designed
to
allow
so
to
allow
solar
panels
in
the
future.
As
shown,
this
would
actually
add
more
energy
to
the
grid.
AF
Then
we're
current
than
would
be
using
Create
a
net
positive
energy
outcome,
which
then
plays
into
the
the
two
graphs
on
the
on
the
right
in
the
middle,
as
shown
where
97
reduced
on
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
then
we're
positively
impacting
greenhouse
gas
based
on.
If
we
add
solar
panels
and
that's
again
due
to
adding
energy
clean
energy
to
the
grid
and
then
on
the
third
in
terms
of
cumulative
emissions
over
a
30-year
period,
a
code
minimum
building
would
continue
to
add
emissions
year
over
year
and
those
would
get
higher
and
higher.
AF
AF
I
won't
focus
on
the
top
three,
because
those
are
Illustrated
in
the
previous
slide,
but
as
a
corporation
we're
looking
at
having
a
minimum
of
20
of
units
to
be
universally
designed
which
we
exceed
on
this
on
this
project,
as
Andrew
and
Keenan
mentioned,
having
10
of
all
of
our
labor
hours.
For
all
projects
be
filled
by
Equity
seeking
groups
and
to
quantify
just
not
our
social,
our
financial
impact,
but
our
environmental
and
social
impacts
are.
AF
Just
targeting
a
four
dollar
return
on
a
social
return
on
investment
next
slide
place
in
this
last.
One
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time
today
and
their
additional
time
and
to
conclude
that
we're
putting
forward
a
project
today
that
I
think
meets
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
by
providing
much
needed.
Affordable
housing
at
a
heightened
density
is
not
only
compatible
with
the
area,
but
also
consistent
with
the
city's
official
plan,
objective
objectives
and
in
close
proximity
to
LRT
transits
under
construction.
Now,
thanks
so
much
thank.
A
X
Yeah
I've
got
some
comments
to
make
afterwards,
so
I
don't
want
to
completely
mug
myself
here,
but
I
do
I.
Do
want
to
say
that
this
is
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
beautiful
project.
The
work
that
you
guys
have
done
on
on
the
architecture
on
the
placement
really
do
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
you've
done.
You
know
dealing
with
concerns
of
of
massing
of
drainage.
X
We,
as
you
know,
we
we
do
still
have
the
the
outstanding
parking
issue.
So
just
just
a
couple
of
questions
we
don't
have
to
get
into
it.
Just
like
a
yes
or
no
is
fine.
Have
you
been
able
to
reach
out
to
Saint
Helens
Anglican
Church,
to
see
if
there's
some
sort
of
way
that
you
might
be
able
to
to
enter
into
an
agreement?
You
know
for
parking
sharing
or
that
sort
of
thing.
AF
AF
Through
the
chair
as
part
of
our
parking
justification
study
that
was
done
by
VA
group,
we
have
proposed
a
number
of
TDM
measures,
including
of
which
would
be
something
of
an
OC
Transpo
pass.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are.
We
are
working
towards
for
sure
we're
not
just
the
affordable
units,
but
the
market
units
as
well.
AF
X
M
AF
AF
K
Chair
I
mean
to
me
on
this
file.
The
the
big
change
is
the
reduction
in
parking
spaces
and
I
think
usually
in
Suburban
communities.
We
would
see
one
space
per
unit
and
in
this
case
it's
about
0.75
and
I'm,
trying
to
keep
an
open
mind
to
this.
So
how
are
you
justifying-
or
you
must
know
something
about-
market
demand
or
desires
of
people
who
might
be
moving
into
this
neighborhood?
What
what's
the
data?
What's
the
information
are
you
using
to
determine
that
you
require
61
spaces
for
81
units.
AG
I
can
the
reduction
in
parking
is
hugely
related
to
Transportation
demand
management
measure,
in
that
we
studied
the
travel
patterns
in
the
area,
and
we
know
that
during
the
peak
period
only
55
to
56
of
the
residents
are
currently
traveling
by
automobile.
We
have
really
good
Peak
Transit
numbers
in
the
area,
those
range
from
32
to
35
percent
during
the
peak
periods
of
the
day.
AG
So
we've
taken
a
careful
look
at
that
with
respect
to
what's
already
happening
in
the
neighborhood
using
survey
data
and
we
believe,
a
really
key
part
in
transportation.
Demand
management
measure
is
to
ensure
that
we
don't
over
Supply
the
parking
so
that
residents
are
aware
of
what
the
parking
Supply
is
when
they
move
to
this
area,
and
the
developer
will
also
make
them
very
aware
with
respect
to
what
their
Transit
options
are
in
the
area
which
which
are
very
good
at
this
point
and
will
only
get
better
with
the
extension
of
that
LRT.
AG
K
AG
K
AG
One
of
the
transportation
demand
management
measures
is
to
separate
that
cost
of
parking,
so
residents
are
only
paying
for
the
parking
as
part
of
their
rent
if
they
require
it.
So
it
provides
that
option
for
lower
rent.
If
you
don't
have
a
vehicle
and
you're
going
to
be
traveling
by
other
means,
such
as
active
Transportation
or
Transit.
A
L
L
So
I
guess
I
want
to
ask
you:
do
you
have
any
data
on
that
who
owns
cars
in
this
area,
because
my
understanding
is
that
there's
constantly
cars
parked
on
the
street,
which
makes
things
dangerous
and
how
often
people
own
a
car
and
don't
pay
for
the
parking
and
park
on
the
street?
Is
that
data
you
can
collect?
Or
can
we
even
know
about
because
we
know
that's
the
reality
on
the
ground.
AG
It's
pretty
challenging
data
to
collect
and
that
you
would
have
to
be
on
site
every
day
and
you
likely
would
have
to
be
surveying
these
motors
to
find
out
why
they're
parking
on
the
street.
So
we
think
probably
a
better
mitigative
measure
to
address
that
would
be
to
consider
parking
prohibitions
along
Kennedy.
L
I,
don't
I,
don't
necessarily
agree,
but
anyway,
thank
you
for
that
that
comment.
I
I
see
that
this
is
a
problem.
It
continues
to
be
a
problem
in
every
single
development
application
we
have
or
we
reduce
the
parking
I
understand.
People
want
to
encourage
people
to
walk
and
ride
their
bikes,
I
get
what
people
are
trying
to
do.
It's
just
that
people
don't
want
to
do
that,
and
so
then
they
find
other
solutions
that
create
other
problems
anyway,
thanks.
O
Thank
you
chair
and
to
build
on
that
point
as
well.
I
have
a
community,
that's
exactly
like
that.
It's
a
rental
community
and
it
has
a
one-to-one
ratio
of
parking
and
even
then
that
parking
lot's
actually
underused,
because
people
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
rent
increase
to
pay
for
that
parking
and
the
point
about
the
parking
prohibition,
Monica
Crescent
right
across
the
street
has
a
parking
prohibition
and
all
those
cars
park
on
Kennedy
Lane.
O
U
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
it
really
is
a
beautiful
development.
It's
absolutely
gorgeous
and
I'd
say
we
would
die
for
this
in
Center
Town,
where,
where
this
kind
of
gentle
density,
we
don't
always
have
the
room
for
it.
So
we
have
so
many
showers
and
there's
a
similar
development
on
walnut
walnut
court
that
was
built
in
the
70s.
It's
very
similar
looking
and
it's
a
really
Utopian
community.
It
is
really
lovely.
U
My
question
is,
though,
so
I
I
know
that
a
portion
of
the
homes
are
designed
to
be
below
Market
rent,
and
my
question
is,
if
you
have
any
data
on
how
many
people
who
who
would
require
a
below
Market
rent
apartment,
would
own
their
own
vehicle
because
I
know.
Certainly
in
my
neighborhood,
that's
not
the
case.
So,
even
though
we
say
that
realistically,
a
lot
of
people
own
cars
in
the
suburbs,
the
folks
who
who
will
be
moving
into
this
community
may
not
be
able
to
afford
cars.
So
I'm
just
curious.
M
C
I
will
I'll
let
Dean
answer
that,
but
I
would
say
that
that
perfectly
raises
sort
of
our
justifications
in
some
regard
for
the
proposed
parking
reduction,
we
do
see
sort
of
across
the
board
less
parking
demand
when
you
have
higher
affordability
levels
in
the
development
just
due
to
the
income
classes
and
and
socioeconomic
factors
of
those
users,
but
also
just
benefiting
the
site's
location
in
proximity
to
ottawa's
recent
investments
in
transit
in
this
neighborhood
it.
It
really
is
a
perfect
fit
without
regard
for
that
I'm,
not
sure
Deanna.
AG
I
think
you
answered
that
beautifully
Andrew
and
that
this
is
a
really
friendly
development
for
Transit,
especially
in
light
of
the
future
improvements
with
the
with
a
light
rail
there's
great
bus
routes
within
100
meters
of
the
site.
You
can
get
anywhere
across
the
city.
There's
there's
excellent
connectivity,
so
we
do
think
that
that's
going
to
play
into
the
demand
for
parking.
U
Yeah
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
the
Ottawa
Community
Housing,
building
at
811,
Gladstone
in
in
my
ward,
has
partnered
actually
with
electric
car
sharing
I.
Think
it's
the
first
electric
car
sharing
partnership
anyway,
I
I,
agree
with
cancer.
Lulop
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
encourage
those
Partnerships
I
think
that
car
sharing
could
sort
of
provide
that
Gap
to
get
people
to
Transit.
U
You
know
if
it's
still
really
slow
waiting
for
a
bus
to
actually
get
to
transit
station
and-
and
you
know
I
know-
certainly
when
I
first
moved
into
Ottawa
I
used
car
sharing
for
those
one
or
two
grocery
trips
a
week
that
I
needed
to
do
and
that
might
alleviate
some
of
the
parking
concerns.
Thank
you.
A
A
AH
You
know,
I'd
certainly
say
from
from
my
view
the
360
Kennedy
Lane
is
a
welcome
addition
to
the
neighborhood.
There's
no
question
about
it.
81
units
and
in
particular
the
affordable
and
accessible
units
that
are
planned
I,
would
simply
recommend
the
city
and
the
developers
and
and
The
Architects
to
adopt
the
Universal
Design
approach,
which
is
I'll,
say
a
little
bit
more
later.
But
it's
a
it's
the
evolving
approach
to
accessibility
and
it
really
uncovers
all
needs,
and
it's
really
designed
for
everybody.
AH
The
main
issue
I
see,
of
course,
other
than
the
transportation
parking
which
you're
addressing
there
is
a
real
lack
of
affordable
and
accessible
Neighborhood
Housing,
not
group
homes,
but
living
in
community,
which
is
the
which
is
the
future.
For
so
many
people
and
Universal
Design
addresses
that
Universal
Design
goes
beyond
simple
accessibility,
it
goes
beyond
codes
and
it's
designed
for
all
and
Community
spaces
for
neighbors
and
volunteers
and
caregivers
can
be
worked
into
that
whole
approach
to
to
Universal
Design.
AH
The
the
other
point
I'd
like
to
make
is
our
committee,
which
is
a
National
Committee
of
the
panel
of
experts,
not
necessarily
myself,
I'm,
believe
it
or
not
a
Water
Resource
engineer,
not
a
structural
engineer,
but
many
of
my
colleagues
are
but
I
do
contribute.
The
lived
experience
of
living
and
working
with
people
with
complex
disabilities
requiring
24
7
care.
AH
One
of
our
activities
recently
was
to
assist
the
cmhc,
the
Canada
mortgage
and
housing
Corporation
issue
their
prepare
and
issue
their
Universal
Design
guide,
which
was
issued
two
days
ago.
So
I
would
highly
recommend
the
city
and
the
developers
and
the
The
Architects
to
to
really
get
a
hold
of
that
and
go
through
it,
because
it's
a
it's
a
great
piece
of
work
by
cmhc,
which
funds
a
lot
of
affordable
and
accessible
units
across
Canada.
AH
M
X
Too
was
very
pleased
to
see
the
level
of
accessibility
on
this
site.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much
for
for
coming
up
to
speak
to
this
today
and
for
the
continued
work
and
advocacy
on
behalf
of
those
with
with
with
special
needs
and
I
know
that
that
you
really
take
this
to
heart
and
thanks
thanks
for
coming
out
today.
We
really
do
appreciate
it
and
you're
you're.
Certainly
an
expert
in
the
field
and
I.
X
Don't
think
that
the
issues
that
were
that
we're
really
dealing
with
today
have
to
do
with
accessibility.
I
think
that
this
is
a
model
for
ensuring
that
we're,
including
accessibility
in
our
neighborhood
I,
do
really
hope
that
we're
able
to
overcome
kind
of
the
last
hurdle
here
so
that
we
can
make
this
reality.
So
thanks
for
coming
out
thanks
for
coming
out
today
and
all
your
work
in
the
community,
we
really
appreciate
you
all.
Thank.
A
M
G
G
On
a
personal
front,
with
our
support
and
that
of
a
personal
support
worker,
our
37
year
old
son
has
been
living
independently
at
Beaver
barracks
for
eight
years
in
a
below
Market
rent
Bachelor
permit.
So
why
do
you
ask?
Is
it
so
important
to
have
these
units
available
in
Orleans?
Here
are
three
reasons
there
are
more
because
Orleans
doesn't
have
any
such
units
as
support
for
our
loved
ones.
We
are
getting
older
proof,
making
it
harder
to
provide
him
with
our
support.
G
My
son
grew
up
here.
We've
been
in
Orleans
since
1981.,
and
that
is
where
his
extended
family
and
friends
are.
When
we
are
no
longer
here,
we
finally
have
a
developer
and
owner
that
is
ready
to
provide
some
of
these
much
needed
homes
over
the
last
12
years
or
more
I
have
been
attending
developers,
proposals,
meetings,
speaking
to
counselors
and
commenting
on
proposals
asking
them
to
include
affordable
and
inclusive
units
in
new
developments,
particularly
near
Transit
stations.
G
G
Our
only
concern
with
this
proposal
relates
to
how
our
community
identifies
and
assigns
individuals
to
Affordable
units,
not
all
accessible
units
need
to
be
affordable.
Sorry,
given
Community
pressures,
including
an
aging
population,
we
recommend
that
out
of
those
20
accessible
units,
only
five
be
designated
affordable
units
and
that
the
other
15
accessible
units
be
available
at
fair
market
rent,
of
course,
I'm
thinking
for
18
families
that
are
looking
for
housing
for
their
developmentally
or
neurodivergent
family
members.
That
can
go
upstairs,
but
they
need
affordable
housing.
G
This
would
leave
20,
affordable
units
for
the
general
population,
including
ours.
I
just
said
that,
please
note
the
maximum
benefit
for
shelter
provided
by
the
Ontario
Disability
Services
Program
for
a
single
person
is
522
dollars
a
month
and
the
total
benefits
for
shelter
and
living
expenses
is
1228.
G
A
M
A
J
J
Who
will
pose
this
project
on
the
basis
of
14
different
criteria?
I
have
mentioned
I
have
submitted
this
petition
to
your
committee
and
time
does
not
permit
me
to
go
through
this
today
as
a
matter
of
context
what's
happening
here.
This
is
a
a
high
density
housing
project.
That's
that's
proposed
to
be
inserted
into
a
low
density
community
and
what
works
in
an
urban
center
doesn't
necessarily-
and
in
fact
does
not
work
in
a
Suburban
setting.
J
J
J
There
we
go
bullet.
One
just
makes
mention
of
what
councilor
little
office
already
said
in
his
comments
in
the
report
that
this
proposal
does
not
sufficiently
address
traffic
and
parking
81
units
would
generate
traffic
by
about
120
to
150
additional
Vehicles.
Now
that
further
to
the
discussion
that's
was
held
earlier,
this
has
been.
This
is
in
recognition
of
working
families
that
commonly
have
two
vehicles
and
in
some
instances
with
extended
families,
it
could
even
be
three.
J
These
vehicles
would
be
funneled
onto
Kennedy
Lane
to
and
from
a
single
exit
point
which,
which
would
then
routinely
require
a
left-hand
turn
into
the
only
entry
exit
point
at
Prestone
drive
at
the
top
of
a
blind
Hill
and
on
a
curve.
Thank
goodness,
we
haven't
had
more
more
tragedies
there
at
this
intersection.
J
Five
a
driver
walked
to
the
closest
amenities
of
plaster
early
on
is
1.7
kilometers
in
distance
on
a
steep
icy
Hill,
which
is
hazardous
in
the
wintertime
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
we
have
very
limited
local
bus
service.
That
is
not
reliable
and
it
does
not
have
close
access
to
the
LRT
and
the
last
Point
regarding
this
is
the
loss
of
a
Windbreak
by
the
destruction
of
21
mature
trees,
which
about
the
border.
J
J
Okay,
I'll
I'll
finish
up
quickly,
sir
and
the
nope.
There
are
no
parking
areas
such
as
a
Monica
Crescent.
This
would
affect
guests
users
of
the
area
for
parking
events
and
also
the
the
many
visitors
that
frequent
the
seniors
home
in
the
especially
on
weekends.
The
result
is
the
bottom
line
here
is
there's
no
place
to
park.
A
X
The
fact
that
Monica,
you
know,
has
a
parking
interdiction
and
only
one
spot
per
per
unit,
which
is
the
bare
minimum
I.
Think
of
what
we're
asking
for.
Can
you
you
know,
as
somebody
who
lives
nearby,
can
you
describe
you
know
what
the
parking
situation
looks
like
say
in
the
summertime
when
so
so
you
know
in
in
good
condition,
so
not
even
in
the
winter
time,
but
in
the
summertime,
when
you
know,
there's
a
ball
game
going
on
or
or
a
football
game.
J
X
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
today.
We
do
really
appreciate
it.
I
believe
that
you
have
submitted
the
petition
so
that
it's
a
it's
it's
available
to
anybody.
That
wants
to
see
some
of
the
other
outstanding
concerns
that
you
raised.
What
what
do
you
say?
You
know
to
the
suggestion
that
yeah
you
know
weekend
parking
is
six
hours
on
Street
and
enforceable
by
a
bylaw
and
street
parking.
X
The
rest
of
the
time
is
three
hours,
so
somebody
who
lives
in
the
area
do
you
have
confidence
that
you
know
bylaw
will
be
able
to
monitor
this
and
to
ensure
that
people
are
aren't
parking
longer
than
they
did.
They
should
be
as
somebody
who
lives
on
Mountainside,
the
next
closest
Street.
Do
you
have
that
confidence.
J
Not
really,
sir,
not
in
the
very
least
it's
it's
it.
It's
simply
unmanageable
for
a
lead
from
the
point
of
view
of
of
the
people
who
would
require
parking,
we
it
would
require
them
to
rotate
cars
around
and
to
to
do
the
sort
of
thing
that
was
described
a
little
while
ago.
In
this
meeting
the
it
would
involve
a
lot
of
expense
in
time
for
enforcement.
X
X
You
know
perhaps
looking
at
some
engineering
on
the
street,
to
you
know
to
have
kind
of
raised
parking
adjacent
to
the
streets
so
that
the
street
stays
open
and
there'll
be
parking
on
the
side.
Do
you
think
that
some
of
these
or
or
any
of
these
will
will
help
to
ameliorate
the
situation?
That's
currently
in
the
neighborhood.
J
X
Two
last
questions
for
you:
I
suppose
that
and
I
guess:
they're
really
part
of
one
question:
how
reliable
is
the
transit
along
that
street?
That
will
take
you
to
LRT
and
two
if
the
bus
doesn't
come
and
you
have
to
get
somewhere
on
time?
How
long
would
it
actually
take
you
in
the
winter
time
to
walk
down
that
hill
and
get
to
a
future
LRT
stop
at
Plaster
Lanes,
which
I
can
imagine,
is
something
that
you've
probably
done
in
the
past.
J
M
A
A
AC
Good
morning,
I've
lived
on
Kennedy
Lane
East
since
1986,
when
my
family
and
I
bought
the
hosts
and
I'm
here
on
my
own,
but
I
think
I
express
the
sentiments
of
the
majority
of
my
neighbors,
so
I'd
like
you
to
imagine,
you
arrive
in
Ottawa
and
you're
going
to
buy
or
rent
a
house.
Do
you
go
to
the
real
estate
agent
alone?
He
offers
you
a
house,
you
say
fine,
I'll,
take
it
or
you're.
AC
Let's
note
to
begin
that
the
city
has
a
plan
for
intensification,
Orleans,
Corridor,
secondary
plan
study
and
I've
hyperlinked
it
in
my
written
presentation,
but
it
clearly
shows
that
this
is
bounded
by
the
corridor
between
Saint,
Joseph
and
Jean
dark
along
the
LRT
Line.
The
church
property
is
outside
these
boundaries.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
where
the
city
designed
intensification
or
wants
intensification,
that's
it
this
isn't.
AC
The
consequential
risk
is
the
application,
although
it's
for
four-story
housing,
although
it's
not
for
four-story
housing,
it
would
allow
it
to
happen
in
future.
It's
restricted
to
three
at
the
present,
but
even
so,
it's
in
conflict
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
two-story
environment
and
carries
the
potential
for
a
future
application
to
add
another
level,
bringing
it
to
four
because
I
understand
it.
You
do
have
a
process
to
add
units.
Subsequently,
all
we
have
to
make
application
here.
AC
We
have
an
application
to
intensify
housing
outside
the
city,
design,
Corridor
in
a
manner
decided
by
the
development
company
for
the
United
Church,
not
the
city,
not
the
community
engagement
before
this
option
was
put
forward.
The
solution
is
focused
on
resolving
the
church
debt
issue.
However,
it
does
not
achieve
the
appropriate
balance
with
Community
concerns,
particularly
about
safety.
AC
AC
This
is
a
unique
opportunity,
I
suspect,
to
develop
the
property
to
meet
the
goals
of
all
concerned.
Is
it
the
only
option?
Is
it
the
best
one
back
to
back
to
my
opening
scenario?
Is
it
you
or
your
real
estate
agent
in
charge
of
where
you
live
and
where
you,
what
you
live
in
here?
Is
it
the
United
Church
or
the
city
planners
who
determine
what's
best
fit
for
the
property?
I
see
a
red
flag
on
the
city
document
at
page
21.,
look
at
the
heading
risk
management
implications.
AC
This,
despite
the
paragraph
above
quoting
Ward
one
counselor,
Matt,
luloff
and
I
quote
these
unresolved
issues
put
Community
buy-in
at
risk
in
an
already
established,
neighborhood
and,
while
I
don't
believe
they
are
insurmountable.
The
applicant
should
continue
to
work
with
City
staff
and
the
community
to
resolve
these
issues
before
occupancy
end
of
quote
Pages
32
to
41
of
the
document
lists
numerous
issues
that
concern
members
of
the
community
and
which
they
categorize
as
risk.
AC
It's
already
been
mentioned:
increased
traffic
congestion
from
an
influx
of
vehicles,
inadequate
parking
and,
if
developed,
these
are
drawn
from
the
petition,
and
my
neighbor
Richard
rice
has
talked
about
this
City
staff
recommend
that
you
pass
the
bylaw
Amendment,
but
they
have
dismissed
the
identified
risk
put
forward
by
our
word
counselor
and
the
concerned
community
members.
Otherwise
the
report
could
not
possibly
have
concluded
that
there
is
no
risk.
AC
AC
So
what
we
do
is
need,
coordination
and,
frankly,
I'm
not
seeing
it
in
my
written
submission.
I
offer
a
number
of
issues.
A
number
of
ways
that
it
might
be
approached
I
have
a
good
deal
of
time
with
the
Legion
in
Legion
housing,
so
I've.
Given
you
the
link
in
Legion,
seniors
housing
center
of
excellence
on
the
written
proposal,
I
urge
you
to
take
a
look
at
it.
We
also
have
two
precedents
in
the
neighborhood,
where
we've
had
that
engagement.
We've
had
a
successful
result.
AC
One
is
the
Crescent
behind
us,
where
every
last
person
backing
onto
the
property,
which
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
park
was
required
to
sign
off
before
the
city
would
in
fact
allow
it
to
happen.
Everybody
signed,
it
happened,
everybody's
happy
and
we
now
have
the
successful
Crescent
adjacent
to
the
park.
The
other
example
in
precedent
is
the
seniors
facility
right
beside
us,
originally
I
believe
five
stories
put
down
at
one
and
now
it's
working
very
well
I
have
other
suggestions.
X
AC
Thank
you
councilman
now,
I've
mentioned
I've
been
looking
at
it,
along
with
what
the
legion
does,
but
the
legion
it
does
partnership,
so
others
can
use
Partnerships
as
well.
I
have,
for
example,
Abby
Field
House
Society
charity.
So
if
you
go
to
any
one
of
these
organizations,
they'll
work
in
Partnership,
municipalities,
residents
and
so
forth.
The
legion
has,
for
example,
126
developments
that
is
done
in
cooperation
after
consultation.
AC
That
model
and
I've
put
a
booklet
of
72
pages
that
the
legion
uses
as
a
template
to
be
successful
is
something
that
you
might
want
to
look
at
and
even
where
somebody
has
gone
to
the
legion
and
then
say
gone
to
Abby
field.
They'll
have
two
ways
of
viewing
the
same
situation
to
meet.
The
need,
where
does
that
need
come
from
need
is
identified
by
the
city?
It's
not
identified
by
the
people
who
want
to
generate
the
cash
which
quite
rightly
they're,
intended
to
do
Legions.
Do
that
as
well.
AC
There
are
very,
very
many
cash
for
property
riches,
but
the
reason
they
don't
get
pushback
on
their
developments
is
they
consult,
communicate,
integrate
a
couple
of
things
the
church
could
do
for
one
thing:
it's
not
a
particularly
good
use
of
the
property,
I
would
suggest,
and
there
are
options,
for
example,
time
sharing
with
another
church.
The
Anglican
Church
I
approached
the
Anglican
church
and
said
so
what?
AC
The
other
things
that
you
can
can
do
is
look
at
the
Care
Facility
now
and
I
went
and
I
talked
to
the
people
there
and
I
was
talking
to
a
personal
support
worker.
What
she
told
me
is
and
I
think
we
all
know
this
when
you
live
in
the
community,
you
want
the
people
you
care
for
to
be
close
by,
so
they
can
visit.
Now.
AC
But
is
there
not
enough
to
justify
additional
resources
adjacent
for
one
to
this
current
facility,
Queenswood
Villa,
to
allow
people
to
age
in
place
and
that
by
the
way,
is
one
of
the
concepts
that
the
legion
tries
to
do?
British
Columbia,
in
particular,
has
been
very
successful.
So
those
are
just
a
couple
of
examples
and
I'm
very
be
pleased
to
have
any
of
you
go
into
my
written
presentation.
I've.
AC
A
K
AI
AI
You,
my
name,
is
Deborah
Dunville
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
Mountainside
Crescent
I
want
to
start
out
by
saying
that
the
people
who
would
inhabit
the
development
at
360,
Kennedy
Lane,
are
more
than
welcome
in
our
neighborhood.
They
are
not
the
problem.
It's
the
buildings
that
are
being
proposed
that
are
the
problem.
Our
Crescent
is
a
one-block
community
of
30
families
who
know
and
support
one
another,
the
proposed
development
backs
onto
our
street
and
will,
as
currently
configured
adversely
impact
the
quality
of
our
community.
AI
It
is
a
shame
that
the
church
that
is
leading
this
development
chose
not
to
consult
with
the
community
I'm
going
to
focus
on
a
couple
of
issues.
Building
height
is
the
first
one
part
of
the
proposed
development
will
back
directly
onto
existing
two-story
single-family
homes
on
Mountainside.
One
of
our
concerns
is
that
the
new
buildings
will
Tower
over
the
existing
homes.
AI
The
second
concern
we
have
is
that
every
spring,
the
families
at
1380,
1382
and
1384
Mountainside
suffered
from
occurring
flooding
as
a
result
of
the
configuration
of
the
church
land
behind
their
homes.
To
date,
the
church
has
refused
to
address
this
yearly
flooding
issue
and
in
the
material
provided
by
the
developer.
There
is
no
there's,
no
nothing
to
address
this
flooding
issue.
AI
Well,
we
were
pleased
to
see
that
the
proposal
has
reduced
the
height
of
the
building's
backing
onto
Mountainside
from
three
to
two
stories.
We
are
still
concerned
about
the
height.
We
feel
that
it
is
critical
that
the
planning
and
housing
committee
ensure
that
buildings
which
back
onto
Mountainside
Crescent,
should
be
no
taller
than
the
homes
on
Mountainside.
AI
For
example,
you
don't
start
a
building
on
a
berm
or
a
hill
that
is
higher
than
the
ground
level
of
the
homes
on
Mountainside
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
parking,
which
you've
heard
a
lot
about
already
and
for
me,
I.
Look
at
this
and
I
see
20
families
who
will
go
to
the
development
and
they
will
be
forced
to
live
without
vehicles
or
have
a
vehicle
and
have
to
figure
out
where
to
park
it.
AI
It's
really
disheartening
to
see
that
City
stacked
used
data
from
2011
in
order
to
justify
their
response
that
the
61
parking
spaces
for
residents
are
sufficient
for
81
families.
On
pages
33
and
38.
They
referred
to
12
year
old
dad
in
order
to
defend
this
position,
the
fallacy
of
using
12
year
old
data
is
especially
evident
when
they
talk
about
public
transportation,
Orleans
used
to
be
a
high
user
of
public
transportation.
AI
AI
In
addition,
public
transportation
is
designed
to
get
people
from
their
homes
to
the
downtown.
It
is
not
designed
to
move
people
within
our
community
to
where
the
community
centers
are
the
grocery
stores
and
the
shops
are
located
so
I'd
like
to
have
this
deferred
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
developer
will
develop
the
land
at
the
same
grade
as
exists
on
Mountainside
and
have
current
2022
data
used
in
defending
the
in
dealing
with
the
parking
requirements.
AI
A
A
AJ
AJ
I
am
also
one
of
the
three
rotating
chairs
of
council,
the
council,
being
our
governing
body
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
our
church
community,
in
strong
support
of
the
proposed
rezoning
and
the
property
development
project
at
our
location,
perhaps
the
brief
introduction
of
who
we
are
is
in
order.
Our
congregation
is
made
up
of
individuals
who
are
either
close
to
or
in
retirement,
although
we
know
that
word
is
often
a
misnomer.
AJ
Many
of
us
have
simply
moved
from
pursuing
our
careers
and
raising
our
families
to
volunteering
at
our
church,
focusing
our
time
and
energy
on
the
needs
of
both
our
faith
community,
but
also
our
local
community
and
even
International
as
well.
Queenswood
United
has
been
a
community
partner
for
many
years.
Responding
to
community
needs
that
have
been
an
important
part
of
our
ongoing
congregational
purpose.
AJ
Queenswood
provides
ongoing
support
to
local
organizations
such
as
our
community
resource
center,
the
Miriam
center
in
Orleans
and
Center
507
downtown
at
Queenswood.
We
have
been
engaged
in
active
reflection
of
what
more
we
have
to
offer
our
community
for
quite
some
time.
This
development
project
had
its
roots
in
our
foresight,
study
back
in
2013.,
so
we're
going
back
10
years
during
which
we
considered
alternative
futures
for
our
faith
community.
AJ
We
continued
our
exploration
of
our
future
purpose
as
we
listened
to
community
organizations
in
Orleans
about
their
needs
and
then
looked
at
ourselves
as
to
what
we
had
to
offer
to
address
those
needs
that
work
led
us
to
generate
four
initiatives
relative
to
our
future
purpose
of
those
four.
Our
primary
theme
emerged,
and
that
was
the
provision
of
affordable
housing
in
Orleans.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
Our
role
is
as
enablers,
we
know
that
there
are
many
in
the
community
who
have
skills
and
abilities
to
assist
in
the
actual
building
of
community
after
proposed.
Construction
is
finished
and
once
new
residents
are
have
arrived,
one
word
about
our
intent.
The
project
objectives
do
not
include
the
growth
of
our
congregation.
AJ
AJ
AJ
In
summary,
we
are
proud
of
this
proposed
development
project
in
terms
of
its
purpose
and
its
design,
with
its
focus
on
the
environment.
Energy,
Efficiency
and
accessibility
is
my
understanding
that,
indeed,
it
aligns
well
with
the
city
housing
plan.
It
will
be
a
place
that
folks
will
be
proud
to
call
home.
AJ
AJ
A
U
Resume,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
it
really
is
the
wave
of
the
future
to
have
church
organizations
non-profits.
In
some
cases,
labor
unions
take
on
developing,
affordable
housing
on
on
extra
land
that
you
have
so
I
really
applaud
this
project.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
the
definition
of
affordability
that
you
will
be
using
for
that
those
30
percent
of
the
homes
that
you
say
will
be
below
Market
rent.
What
is
the
threshold
that
you're
planning
on
using.
U
K
I,
don't
have
a
question
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
presenting
a
committee
and
clarifying
the
objectives
of
the
church,
the
research
and
work.
That's
gone
into
this
and
Echo
counselor
trosters
comments
about
how
important
the
work
is
that
churches
of
all
denominations
across
the
city
are
doing
and
addressing
issues
of
of
Housing
and
homelessness.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
Thank.
AB
X
Thanks
so
much
for
all
you've
done
over
the
decades
in
in
Queenswood,
Heights
you've
certainly
been
a
pillar
of
the
community.
We've
definitely
appreciated
everything
you've
done,
and
this
is
a
very
exciting
project
and
I'm-
sorry
that
we
still
have
this
one
last
outstanding
hurdle
that
that
we
need
to
cross
in
order
to
to
get
there.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
community.
X
I
think
the
architecture
is
beautiful.
I
think
the
way
that
it's
set
up
is
gorgeous
I'm,
so
glad
to
see
the
affordability
aspect
in
there.
It's
going
to
allow
you
to
you,
know
Breathe
new
life
into
the
property
into
into
your
church
and
ensure
that
you're
meeting
your
mandate
by
better
using
your
property
of
lots
of
friends
and
parents
of
friends
that
grew
up
at
that
church
I've
been
to
weddings
there.
It's
a
beautiful
space
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your.
X
Your
work
in
the
community
I
certainly
do
support
the
project
on
the
whole
and
I'm
just
looking
for
a
way
to
ensure
that
we
have
complete
Community
buy-in
by
addressing
the
last
issue
that
we
have
today.
So
it's
no
slight
against
the
United
Church
whatsoever.
I
see
Great
Value
in
the
work
that
you're
doing
I'm
excited
about
this
project.
X
A
AK
A
AK
AK
A
letter
has
been
circulated
to
the
council.
Members
I
just
want
to
cover
off
two
main
points
in
there
that
were
a
concern
to
us
personally.
The
subject
site
includes
Queenswood
United
Church,
a
large
green
space,
a
roundabout
for
vehicular
traffic,
as
well
as
a
large
parking
lot
on
the
south
side
of
the
site,
all
at
a
considerable
distance
from
the
existing
retirement
complex.
AK
The
Redevelopment
is
currently
proposed
raises
two
main
concerns
which
we've
tried
to
discuss
with
the
applicant
but
have
been
unsuccessful
at
furthering
after
initial
contact.
As
you're
aware,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
zoning
by
law
amending
to
an
r4z
Zone,
a
designation
that
encourages
more
dense,
infill
development
with
Suburban
low
rise
settings.
The
current
one
excuse
me:
I
won.
A
b
Zone,
however,
only
allows
for
low
density
residential
uses
in
the
form
of
single,
detached
and
semi-detached
homes.
AK
The
proposed
change
creates
an
opportunity
for
the
applicant
to
build
walk-up,
Apartments,
triplexes
and
Townhomes,
though
we
generally
support
general
intensification
of
urban
service
land.
This
change
in
the
increased
density
it
brings
in
its
current
form,
will
greatly
and
negatively
impact
the
residents
of
the
existing
seniors
Community
by
creating
challenges
of
noise
and
traffic,
as
well
as
safety
concerns
for
the
residents
which
could
have
been
reasonably
assured
would
not
occur
with
the
current
zoning.
AK
Secondly,
as
it
relates
to
the
specific
plans
circulated,
The
Proposal
places,
residential
Townhomes
block
eight
and
a
large
parking
lot
directly
adjacent
to
the
retirement
home.
This
will
effectively
eliminate
the
existing
landscape
buffer.
The
residents
currently
enjoy,
while
exposing
them
to
an
increased
noise
and
vehicular
traffic.
A
more
prudent
plan
may
be
able
to
include
a
tie-in
road
that
creates
a
distinction,
separation
and
improves
vehicular
circulation
between
the
North
side
of
the
new
development
and
our
retirement
community.
AK
We
encourage
the
applicant
to
engage
in
further
discussions
with
us
so
as
to
reach
a
resolution
for
the
benefit
of
all.
However,
at
this
time,
without
the
benefit
of
such
discussions,
we
cannot
and
would
expect
that
you
would
not
support
the
proposal
in
its
current
form,
without
consultation
with
us,
on
behalf
of
the
health
and
well-being
of
all
the
residents
of
Queenswood
Villa
and
the
Greater
Community.
Thank
you.
R
M
A
AM
You're
no
problem
so
hello,
my
name
is
Serena
sodi
I
am
a
resident
of
Merlin
Ward
and
I've
lived
in
Ottawa
for
almost
10
years
now,
I'm
speaking
in
favor
of
this
application
with
the
current,
affordable
housing
crisis
and
the
climate
emergency
developments
like
this
are
really
beneficial
and
quite
important
at
this
time.
I
understand
that
there
have
been
concerns
raised
about
parking.
However,
I
really
don't
think
it's
being
taken
into
account
by
the
people.
AM
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
you
know
who
these
developments
will
harm
and
and
it's
people
with
cars,
but
we
haven't
really
talked
about
who
it's
going
to
help
and
I
think
that's
really
important
as
well,
and
as
mentioned,
it's
a
walkable
neighborhood,
there's
grocery
stores,
there's
schools,
there's
amenities,
I.
Really,
it's
really
disappointing
honestly
to
just
see
all
of
the
negative
comments,
just
mostly
about
parking
when
I
really
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
issue
and,
in
summary,
I
strongly
support
this
development.
AM
A
AN
Good
afternoon,
everyone
clock
just
hit
12
o'clock,
so
I
guess
we're
afternoon.
Now,
thanks
so
much
for
having
me
and
and
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
this
development,
this
is
affordable,
housing,
it's
missing
middle,
it's
environmentally
friendly,
is
Transit
oriented,
it's
very
close
to
to
Rapid
Transit
in
Orleans.
AN
A
reduction
in
parking
in
developments
like
this
is
is
something
that
we
all
want
to
see
and
in
fact,
I'll
I'll
refer
to
the
these
surveys
we
sent
out
and
make
housing
affordable
during
the
election.
Overwhelmingly.
The
folks
who
responded
who
are
on
this
committee,
five
of
you
said
that
you
supported
getting
rid
of
parking
requirements
entirely
on
developments
and
I.
Think
only
one
of
you
said
that
you
did
not
support
that.
AN
One
thing
that
I'll
say
for
me
is
is
that
this
development
is
is
pretty
personal,
because
I
live
in
a
development
that
looks
just
like
it.
I
live
in
Bar,
Haven,
counselor
Lowe
knocked
on
my
door.
He
knows
where
I
live
and
he's
seen
the
community
that
I
live
in
and
it's
it's
townhouses
that
look
exactly
like
these.
It's
a
small
community
of
100
or
so
townhouses
and
I
can
tell
you.
There's
been
no
crisis
in
my
community.
There's
no
parking
crisis.
There's,
there's!
AN
No,
probably
there's
no
traffic
crisis
that
that
became
as
a
result
of
the
development
in
in
my
community.
We,
we
also
have
less
than
one
parking
spot
per
person,
I
believe
so
you
know
these
communities
exist
everywhere
and
they
don't
create
these
types
of
problems
and
I
would
say
that,
no
matter
what
type
of
development
this
was
no
matter
how
much
parking
there
was.
There
are
always
folks
who
come
to
these
meetings
and
say
we
need
more.
AN
There
are
always
folks
who
come
to
these
meetings
and
say:
buildings
are
too
tall,
and
it's
going
to
impact
existing
homeowners
and
very
rarely
represented,
are
the
voices
of
the
people
who
will
live
in
these
buildings
and
who
will
benefit
from
these
homes,
and
very
rarely
do
we
think
about
the
impact
of
what
happens.
If
we
don't
build
this,
because
if
we
don't
build
this
you're
talking
about
30
people
who
stay
on
the
wait
list
for
affordable
housing,
which
is
around
12,
000
I,
believe
in
Ottawa.
AN
So
we
have
an
absolute
crisis
in
the
city
that
we
need
to
get
people
off
this
way
listening
to
homes.
So
you
know
this
is
in
social
housing
per
se,
but
I.
My
understanding
is
that
the
affordable
rates
are
very,
very
good
at
at
this,
build
and
and
we're
very
supportive
that
they've
gone
above
and
beyond
what
inclusion
Arizona
would
ask
what
is
legally
required.
They've
they've
done
a
great
job
here
with
this
so
yeah
and
then
the
the
other
piece
of
this
is.
AN
You
know
if
we're
concerned
about
traffic
in
this
neighborhood
we're
concerned
the
transit's,
not
good
enough.
Well,
you
know,
respectfully,
this
council
is
supported,
no
property
tax
increase
right.
Our
inflation
is
seven,
eight,
nine
ten
percent
for
the
past
few
years.
Our
property
tax
hikes
have
been
one
or
two
percent,
and
you
know
that's
well
below
the
rate
of
inflation.
Property
owners
have
been
getting
tax
cuts
effectively
for
the
last
decade
and
our
roads
are
in
disrepair.
AN
Our
Transit
is
badly
underfunded
and
instead
of
you
know,
fixing
our
property
tax
problem
and
fixing
these
infrastructure
problems.
We're
saying:
okay!
Well,
let's
just
block
development
that'll
fix
it,
but
that
that,
of
course,
doesn't
fix
our
problems
right.
So
these
problems
exist
independently
of
whether
or
not
this
new
build
gets
built,
It's
a
Wonderful
project
and,
in
conclusion,
I
I'd,
ask
that
you
all
supported
and
think
about
what
happens.
AN
X
Thanks
so
much
Dean
I
really
did
appreciate
our
conversation
and
I
appreciate
your
advocacy.
I
think
you
do
a
great
job
and-
and
you
certainly
speak
very
well
on
this
I-
think
that
I
think
that
the
the
core
of
the
issue
is
that
that
no
one
wants
wants
to
wants
to
block
this
development.
I
think
that
the
question
is
that
what
we're
looking
for
is
for
what
you've
got
in
your
development
and
that's
one
parking
space
per
unit
in
an
area
that
already
has
a
parking
problem.
X
So
yes,
well
in
in
another
area
or
in
this
area,
if
there
were
conditions
right
now
where
there
wasn't
already
a
parking
issue
that
this
would
make.
Total
sense,
I
think
that
everybody's
really
really
excited
about
what
this,
what
this
project
can
do
and
in
creating
affordable
spaces
and
in
creating
accessible
spaces
I
certainly
support
that.
But
what
we're
looking
for
is
the
same
conditions
in
which
your
development
was
built
and
that's
you
know
providing
at
least
the
bare
minimum
of
of
one
space,
which
I
think
can
be
achieved.
X
I
think
that
can
be
achieved
not
necessarily
on
the
site.
I
think
that
we
can
work
with
the
Anglican
Church
I
think
that
we
can
work
with
with
the
air
with
the
the
surrounding
area.
I
think
that
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
do
when
it
comes
to
things
like
Community
with
OC
Transpo
I.
Don't
think
that
these
are
insurmountable,
so
I.
X
Don't
think
that
the
question
today
is,
you
know,
approve
or
not,
approve
I
think
that
everybody
around
the
table
certainly
sees
the
value
in
this,
and
I
certainly
want
to
see
it
move
forward
too.
But
what
we
want
to
do
is
get
to
get
to
where
you're
at
so
I
mean
one
just
to
ensure
that
there's
at
least
one
spot
or
one
spot,
only
and
I
think
that
that
can
be
done
with
with
some
Partnerships,
but
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
and
chatting
with
us
today.
A
A
D
Thank
you,
so
I
I'm
here
in
support
of
the
project
I,
do
not
live
in
the
neighborhood,
but
obviously
without
the
construction
of
more
housing,
I'm
also
unlikely
to
at
the
current
rates.
So
this
is
the
sort
of
low-rise
gentle
intensification
that
matches
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
There
are
similar
townhouses
in
the
area.
It's
not
just
a
two-story
single-family
homes,
as
some
people
have
said,
and
this
is
something
that
has
also
been
delayed.
D
A
bit
I
believe
that
you
know
the
initial
plan
suggested
that
it
would
would
have
shovels
in
the
ground
by
fall.
This
fall
and
now
we're
just
seeing
it
come
in
front
of
planning
committee
right
now-
and
this
is
a
building-
you
know,
purpose
purpose-built
rentals,
which
is
exactly
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
want
to
see.
We
have
a
vacancy
rate
in
Ottawa
of
two
percent,
which
is
very
low,
which
increases
rents
and
it's
also
the
sort
of
desperately
needed,
affordable
housing
that
we
need
in
the
community
in
Auto.
D
In
general,
the
the
30
30
of
the
units
are
going
to
be
79
of
MMR
in
the
area
which
is
significantly
lower
than
the
average
rents
in
Ottawa
and
just
speaking
to
the
to
the
parking
that
was
mentioned.
That
I
mean
first
of
all,
every
additional
parking
space.
That's
added
means
that
we
have
to
reduce
the
number
of
units.
D
I
I
live
in
Nepean
and
it
takes
me
about
an
hour
to
get
to
downtown
during
the
best
of
times
this
development
I
looked.
It
would
take
about
40
minutes
at
the
moment
and
that's
only
going
to
get
better
with
the
LRT
I
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
would
be
very
glad
to
live
in
a
development
like
this.
Without
a
car
myself
included-
and
you
know
many
people
do
live
without
cars,
many
students
in
particular
and
as
well.
D
D
Even
apart
from
that,
just
as
other
people
have
mentioned,
this
is
a
great
project.
From
the
perspective
of
you
know
the
climate
emergency,
the
housing
emergency.
We
have
the
solar
panels
there
and
that,
with
the
ability
to
have
solar
panels,
there
there's
the
ability
to
have
geothermal
heating
and
cooling
I.
D
Believe
was
mentioned
when
I
read
the
proposal,
it's
close
to
a
lot
of
amenities,
and-
and
so
just
in
my
opinion,
this
is
the
sort
of
development
that
so
every
plan
that
the
city
has
made
that
it
all
comes
together
to
encourage
this
sort
of
project
where
we
can
get
affordability
and
we
can
get
kind
of
action
on
on
densification,
for
climate
change
and
for
affordability
and
and
just
potentially,
like
I,
said,
improving
transit
in
the
area
with
intensification,
so
I
strongly
encourage
Council
to
support
this
plan.
Thank
you.
A
AL
AL
It's
very
modest
I'm,
pretty
sure
there
are
single
family
monster
houses
near
my
Bungalow
that
are
significantly
taller
than
this
project.
It's
a
great
place
to
add
housing
density.
There's
lots
of
public
schools,
grocery
stores,
a
Library
community
center
within
walking
distance
I
understand
that
there
can
have
been
a
lot
of
concerns
raised
about
parking,
but
I
really
would
encourage
people
to
like
use
your
imagination
and
expand.
AL
Imagine
what
life
is
like
without
a
car
I
actually
spent
nearly
two
decades
as
an
adult
without
owning
a
car,
and
this
location
is
near
numerous
bus
routes.
With
all
of
the
caveats
about
OC
Transfer
having
issues
a
20-minute
walk
of
the
future,
Orleans
LRT
stop
not
everybody
needs
to
have
cars,
and
we
don't
need
to
build
all
housing
to
be
car.
AL
Think
a
lot
of
folks
are
going
to
be
really
sad
to
find
out
that,
in
decades
of
under
building
missing
middle
housing,
like
this
development,
we've
also
underbuilt
accessible
housing
where
people
can
age
in
place
in
their
existing
neighborhoods
people
are
going
to
have
to
leave
their
neighborhoods
the
neighborhoods
that
they've
come
to
love
over
decades
because
they
can't
find
smaller
and
modest
and
accessible
housing.
I
also
really
appreciated
and
wanted
to
Echo
Giselle
Doyle's
comments.
AL
As
a
member
of
the
neurodiverse
community,
myself,
I'm
thrilled
that
this
development
provides
much
needed,
accessible
housing,
both
at
market
rate
and
Below
market
rate
units.
One
of
the
other
presenters
spoke
about
his
concern
that
one's
real
estate
agent
might
choose
where
one
might
live.
I
think
that's
really
ignorant
of
the
housing
crisis
facing
Canadians.
Today,
people
aren't
working
with
real
estate
agents
they're
working
with
roommates
because
they
can't
afford
places
to
live.
AL
I
can
only
assume
that
the
folks
speaking
against
this
development
haven't
had
friends
or
loved
ones
struggle
with
accessing
affordable
housing
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
because
it's
really
tough
out
there
and
I
would
like
to
see
this
development
get
built
without
further
delay.
In
summary,
I
strongly
support
this
development.
I
hope
the
planning
committee
will
vote
in
favor
of
it
without
further
delay
because,
as
we
know,
delays
increased
costs
and
we
are
in
a
housing
crisis.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
AO
AO
My
issue
with
parking
isn't
about
the
number
of
parking
spaces
per
unit
at
the
development.
That's
I
mean
whether
it's
you
know
plus
or
minus
one
per
unit.
It's
not
not
going
to
make
a
big
difference.
The
issue
with
the
parking
around
around
the
park
is
is
my
concern
and
in
the
summertime
there
are,
there
are
softball
games
going
on
which
have,
on
average
30
cars
per
game
and
there's
two
three
games
a
night
plus
a
soccer
field.
AO
You're
talking
hundreds
of
cars
that
come
to
that
Park
every
day
in
the
summer,
use
the
park
splash
pad
volleyball
nets,
all
that
dog
park,
everything
so
we're
talking.
A
lot
of
parking
and
I
know
I
realized
that
these
people
who
don't
live
in
the
community,
don't
understand
what
we're
talking
about
it.
AO
That's
where
the
majority
of
people
park
right
now,
I
realize
that's
not
a
perfect
solution
either,
but
that
taking
away
that
parking
lot
alone
is
going
to
add
a
ton
of
pressure
onto
the
street
parking
and
then
on
top
of
that
you're.
You
know
yes,
you're
going
to
have
extra
cars
that
are
obviously
aren't
going
to
have
parking
at
Kennedy.
There's
already
lots
of
those
people
that
live
on
Monaco
right
across
the
street,
there's
already
cars
that
are
parked
overnight
every
night
along
Kennedy
Lane.
AO
AO
A
Josh.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
delegation
I'm
looking
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
members
and
I,
don't
see
any
so.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
this
morning
and
that
does
colleagues
bring
us
to
the
end
of
the
speakers
list.
Before
I
move
on
to
questions
and
staff
I'm
going
to
ask
councilor,
luloff
or
counselor
dudas,
who
have
a
a
presentation
to
move.
I'm.
Sorry
emotion,
you
says
Riley.
AA
The
planning
staff
work
with
the
applicants
to
develop
a
plan
to
manage
construction
parking
during
the
build
through
the
site
plan
approval
process
and
be
it
further
resolved.
That
planning
staff
require
the
owners
to
issue
warning
Clauses
so
that
potential
renters
are
aware
of
the
limited
parking
available.
A
X
You
very
much
Mr
chair,
listen
I've,
shared
my
thoughts
about
this
proposal
regularly
throughout
the
development
process,
with
the
applicants
and
planning
staff
and
most
recently
I
outlined,
outlined
our
outstanding
concerns
in
the
counselor
comments
section
of
the
report
that
is
before
us
today
and
really
appreciate
everybody
that
took
the
time
to
read
them.
I've
had
a
lot
of
comments
from
from
my
colleagues
that
shows
that
you
really
care
about
these
files
and
I
do
too
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
I
feel
that
it's
important
for
me
to
speak
today
directly
to
committee
members
to
represent
the
concerns
of
my
community.
Let's
start
off
by
saying
that
it's
been
a
real
pleasure
to
work
with
Kindred
works
and
their
team
on
this
proposal.
Absolutely
they
brought
forward
thoughtful
development
proposal
that
seeks
to
add,
affordable
and
accessible
rental
units
to
The
Orleans
market
and
fill
the
mission
of
the
United
Church
to
build
diverse,
affordable
and
sustainable
communities.
I
think
that
this
type
of
development-
this
is
the
type
of
development
that
we
should
focus
our
efforts
on.
X
While
we
navigate
the
current
housing
crisis
and
I'm
pleased
that
the
applicants
have
engaged
with
community
over
the
last
several
months
in
in
various
forms
to
address
many
of
the
concerns
that
were
initially
raised
and
I
want
to
recognize
this
excellent
work
and
and
thank
them
for
it.
Difficult
issues
like
like
massing
and
drainage
were
taken
very
seriously
and
addressed
adequately
so
again.
Thank
you.
X
X
There
remains
serious
outstanding
concerns
about
traffic
and
parking
that
have
not
been
addressed
by
the
applicants
or
city
staff.
These
concerns
require
serious
attention
and
resolution
before
this
project
can
proceed
in
order
to
secure
the
buy-in
of
the
community.
There's
a
pre-existing
problem
with
on-street
parking
on
Kenny
Lane.
X
We've
heard
that
quite
a
bit
today
that
creates
a
chaotic
and
unsafe
situation
at
the
best
of
times
nearby
residence,
Park
users
and
visitors
to
Queenswood,
Villa
retirement
home,
our
overflowing
Kenny
Lane
with
on-screen
parking,
thus
narrowing
the
road
and
making
it
extremely
difficult
for
motorists,
school
buses,
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
all
Road
users
to
navigate,
especially
in
the
winter.
This
application
proposes
81
new
units,
but
only
61
parking
spaces
for
residents
and,
as
we've
heard
today,
Orleans
is
still
very
much
a
car-centric
community.
X
Unfortunately,
where
most
households
have
to
rely
on
more
than
one
vehicle
and
many
do
not
have
no
vehicles,
whether
or
not
staff
agree
that
this
problem
exists.
There's
a
widespread
Community
concern
that
the
addition
of
81
units
on
this
site
will
aggravate
the
pre-existing
parking
conditions
and
create
an
unsafe
situation
for
nearby
residents
and
Road
users.
So
let
me
be
clear:
there's
no
room
for
20
additional
vehicles
on
Kenny
Lane,
much
less
room
for
the
existing
demand
for
parking
in
the
area
as
conditions
currently
exist.
X
20
represents
the
number
of
vehicles
that
would
be
unaccounted
for,
given
the
assumption
that
each
unit
is
using
one
vehicle.
The
low
end
of
what
the
pressure
may
be
placed
on
the
street,
the
widespread
concerns
demonstrated
through
the
petition
submitted
by
nearby
residents
with
more
than
845
signatures.
So
at
this
juncture,
the
applicants
have
not
demonstrated
that
the
addition
of
81
units
and
only
61
parking
spaces
would
not
further
aggravate
the
already
tenuous
parking
and
traffic
situation.
X
It's
unreasonable
to
think
that
families
occupying
that
one
of
these
units
in
the
heart
of
Queenswood
Heights
will
be
willing
to
live
there
without
a
vehicle
when
Transit
is
generally
considered
to
be
unreliable
and
where
local
amenities
are
close
to
two
kilometers
away
down
a
steep
hill
I
believe
that
the
rationale
for
15-minute
communities
that
the
applicants
have
used
to
justify
their
parking
rate
is
Not
Practical.
In
this
case,
for
example,
it
would
take
about
25
minutes
each
way
for
a
resident
to
walk
to
the
closest,
affordable
grocery
store.
X
This
is
not
taking
into
account
the
Steep
and
often
slippery
Hill
that
would
be
required
that
they
would
be
required
to
climb.
Alternatively,
residents
could
use
a
narrow
dirt
pathway
on
the
same
Steep,
Hill
I.
Don't
believe
that
these
issues
aren't
surmountable
at
all
and
I,
don't
believe
they
would
take
a
very
long
time
to
sort
out,
but
they
will
require
work
on
both
sides
to
come
up
with
a
meaningful
solution.
X
In
my
report,
comments
I
provide
several
suggestions
and
and
measures
that
the
applicants
and
City
could
explore
to
relieve
this
pressure
on
the
community,
including
enhancing
the
parking
near
Queenswood
Ridge.
Perhaps
by
creating
a
raised
street
parking
area
off
the
roadway
entering
into
an
agreement
with
OC
transport
to
provide
passes
an
option
for
residents
without
the
need
for
a
parking
space
working
at
a
deal
with
St
Helens
Anglican
Church
to
use
their
lot
for
overflow
parking
or
entering
into
an
agreement
with
car
sharing
contracts.
X
At
this
time,
I
don't
believe
that
any
of
these
measures
have
been
meaningful
meaningfully
explored
or
exhausted,
and
for
this
reason,
I'm
asking
the
community
to
refer
this
report
back
to
staff
for
further
work,
so
the
outstanding
parking
concerns
can
be
addressed
meaningfully
and
I.
Don't
think
that
it
will
take
a
long
time
now.
Finally,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
to
speak
today.
I
feel
that
this
was
a
respectful
conversation.
While
we
may
not
always
agree
on
the
issues,
we
can
certainly
still
get
along
without
making
our
arguments
personal.
U
Hi
and
thanks
so
much
to
councilor
for
I
I,
really
understand
that
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
make
this
project
work
for
your
community,
but
you
know
I
the
demand
from
our
communities
for
City
councils
around
the
country
to
be
more
Brave
when
it
comes
to
promoting
and
building
affordable
housing
and
missing
middle
housing.
We
have
a
housing
crisis.
12
000
people
are
on
the
waitlist
for
affordable
housing
and
increasingly
people
are
wanting
to
age
in
place
or
to
be
able
to
find
affordable
homes
in
their
own
Community.
U
Instead
of
always
having
to
come
to
the
downtown
core
to
find
that
kind
of
housing,
so
I
don't
think
we
should
delay
this
application
anymore
again.
I,
given
that
30
of
these
homes
are
are
designed
to
be
low-income
homes.
You
know
it's
hard
enough
to
pay.
Rent
I
can't
imagine
also
owning
a
private
vehicle
on
top
of
it.
U
I,
don't
think
anything's
going
to
change
unless,
unless
we
take
some
bold
steps,
I
think
to
kind
of
have
this
foreground
conclusion
that,
while
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
has
one
or
two
cars,
so
therefore
it's
not
possible
to
not
have
one.
But
I
do
agree
with
with
the
fact,
with
this
suggestion,
counselor
Lou
life
that
that
the
applicant
work
with
car
sharing
and
with
OC
Transfer
I
think
those
things
can
happen
concurrently
after
this
application
is
approved.
U
H
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
certainly
understand
and
appreciate.
The
intent
of
the
deferral.
I
would
likely
ask
a
similar
motion
if
I
was
in
the
councilor
lular
shoes.
My
my
question
to
staff,
though,
is:
did
we
not
see
this
train
wreck
coming
like?
Why
are
we
having
this
discussion
at
committee
table
today
when
we
know
the
community's
concern
about
traffic
has
been
there
for
some
time?
The
word
counselor
has
raised
this
for
some
time.
Why
was
there
not
more
proactive
work
done
with
the
applicant
on
this
matter?
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
understanding?
Please.
Y
Y
We
have
had
our
transportation
project
manager
involved,
as
mentioned
our
traffic
assessment
group,
who
does
who
understands
that
there
is
a
demand
for
street
parking
here,
but
does
not
see
a
problem
per
se,
so
you
know
we
we've
not
had
safety
concerns
raised
through
3-1-1
prior
to
this
project.
We
have
not.
Y
You
know
there
is
a
curvature
here
on
the
street,
which
we
understand
can
impact
sight
lines.
That
is
why
on-street
parking
has
been
designed
on
one
side
of
the
street.
There
are
current
restrictions
in
place
for
parking
that
we
understand
are
working.
Well,
you
know
the
the
the
tone,
I
guess
or
the
message
has
been.
We
recognize
the
concern,
but
we
don't
feel
that
it.
It
warrants
a
change
in
the
design.
Y
What
we
would
prefer
to
do
is
to
monitor,
after
the
fact
to
see
if
those
concerns
actually
are
validated,
it
will
be
very
useful
tools
for
us
as
planners
we're
going
to
be
faced
with
this
issue.
As
we
proceed
in
development
in
this
city,
our
traffic
assessment
team
does
not
have
you
know
there
are
benefits
to
on-street
parking.
I.
Think
you've
heard
some
of
them
be
mentioned
here
today
with
respect
to
developments
being
able
to
be
more
dense,
to
be
better
designed
that
on-street
parking
can
actually
help
with
traffic
calming.
Y
So
we
we
did
look
at
a
number
of
these
things
holistically
and
we've
looked
at
where
this
site
was.
We
also
looked
at
the
fact
that
there
aren't
many
sites
like
this
in
the
community,
so
it's
not
going
to
happen
over
and
over
and
over
again.
This
is
a
very
mature
established
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
M
H
X
Yes,
certainly
and
I
mean
I
try
to
go
through
that
in
my
comments
a
little
bit
on
it.
Essentially,
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
that
you
know
I'm,
certainly
not
you
know
the
the
the
final
Arbiter
on
all
of
the
options
that
are
available
here,
but
I
think
that
we've
identified
some
that
you
know
even
some
other
committee
members
have
expressed.
You
know
some
some
support
for
I'm,
certainly
not
asking
for
for
people
to
move
mountains
here.
What
I'm?
X
What
I'm
asking
is
that
there's
a
you
know
a
meaningful
conversation
that
that
can
happen
between?
You
know
the
community,
the
developer
and
staff
to
to
at
least
look
at
some
of
the
suggestions
that
I've
made
here
and
just
get
something
in
place
and
bring
it
back.
This
doesn't
have
to
take
you
know
a
year.
It
doesn't
have
to
take
six
months.
X
You
know
two
of
the
visitors
parking
or
two
of
the
other
nine
parking
spaces
are
going
to
have.
You
know
dedicated
ride,
share
program
there,
and
you
know:
we've
we've
got
an
agreement
in
place,
or
at
least
in
principle,
with
OC
transport
to
be
providing.
You
know,
perhaps
an
equipass
to
the
people
in
in
the
affordable
units.
Just
those
sorts
of
conversations
need
to
happen
just
to
ensure
that
we're
not
exacerbating
a
problem
that,
while
staff
disagrees
that
it
exists,
I
mean
you
know
frankly,
I
respect
our
staff.
X
They
don't
live
in
this
neighborhood.
You
know,
we've
heard
you
know
from
Josh
and
from
others
that
this
is
a
real
issue.
So
all
I'm
asking
for
is
some
conversations.
There's
no
reason
why
this
can't
come
back
after
having
those
conversations,
perhaps
even
at
the
next
planning
committee
or
the
one
after
that,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
have
something
in
place
that
that
will
mitigate
this
already.
You
know
pervasive
issue
on
the
street
and
I
really
appreciate
your
question.
Thank
you.
This
doesn't
have
to
take
forever.
It
doesn't.
K
Yeah
I'm
not
going
to
support
referral
I,
do
think
it's
worth
encouraging
the
applicant
to
to
pursue
some
of
the
mitigation
options.
They've
identified
I
would
caution
people
on
the
OC
Transfer
when
this
comes
up
a
lot.
Providing
OC
Transpo
passes
is
really
expensive
for
an
applicant
and
probably
not
a
reasonable
expectation.
I
will
say:
I
did
that
in
my
ward
last
time,
but
I
probably
would
not
recommend
that
again.
K
If
we're
talking
about
affordability
issues
but
in
terms
of
evidence,
I
was
on
dev
apps
during
the
conversation
there's
a
document
from
a
transportation
engineer,
perhaps
the
same
one
who
spoke
today
with
extensive
background
about
how
they've
arrived
at
their
justification
through
Moto
share
numbers
and
otherwise
I
was
not
convinced.
Coming
into
this
meeting
that
the
reduction
in
parking
was
a
good
idea,
I'm
more
confident
with
that
now
I
think
the
applicant
has
a
very
clear
understanding
of
what
the
transportation
needs
are
of
their
clients
and
I.
K
Think
referring
back
to
staff
would
be
I
unnecessary
use
of
resources
on
our
staff
in
an
unnecessary
delay
for
the
applicant.
Also,
recognizing
that
reduction
in
parking
has
a
positive
impact
on
affordability
and
will
reduce
traffic
as
well.
I'd
be
worried
that
if
all
of
a
sudden
we're
adding
more
parking
spaces,
we'd
then
be
allowing
or
encouraging
the
owners
or
the
renters
of
this
unit
to
to
bring
more
Vehicles
into
the
neighborhood,
which
is
exasperate.
The
traffic
issue
that
we've
heard
about
so
yeah
I
will
not
re
I
will
not
support
the
referral.
AA
You
chair,
I,
will
be
supporting
the
referral
the
way
I
see
it
is
there's
absolutely
nothing
wrong
with
giving
the
parties
a
little
bit
more
time
to
address
what
will
be
a
forever
problem,
because
once
something
is
built,
as
we
all
know
through
experiencing
this
in
our
own
communities,
the
problem
won't
go
away
so
to
take
a
little
extra
time
to
work
through
what
is
addressed
as
a
concern
by
not
just
the
community
but
but
all
users
of
that
road.
I
see
that
as
a
prudent
alternative
to
rushing
headlong
into
something.
AA
When
we
know
that
there
is
an
identified
issue,
you
know
I
I've
I'm
in
this
community,
a
lot
I
live
in
the
East
End
I'm,
taking
this
road
as
a
motorist
I'm
there,
because
I'm
there
at
Queenswood,
Ridge
Park.
You
know
we
have
the
the
church,
there's
the
seniors
residents,
it's
a
well-used
road
and
it's
busy
to
begin
with.
So
as
I
said,
on
referral
to
just
take
an
extra
month,
not
even
to
take
a
little
extra
time
to
work
through
a
problem
that
everybody
recognizes
is
a
problem.
AA
I,
don't
see
any
problem
with
that,
because
once
we
give
the
go-ahead,
we
know
we're
going
to
have
this
forever
issue,
so
I
support
this
referral.
I
think
this
is
a
phenomenal
project.
I
think
it's
going
to
bring
immense
value
to
our
community
in
terms
of
providing
different
types
of
affordable
home
housing.
I
support
the
project.
We
just
need
to
give
the
parking
issue
a
little
bit
of
a
second
thought
on
that,
so
I
will
be
spraying
for
all.
A
O
Thank
you,
chair,
I
Echo,
the
sentiments
that
were
raised
by
several
several
of
our
colleagues
that
this
is
an
excellent
development,
but
some
of
these
concerns
I
think,
should
take
a
little
extra
time
to
to
be
looked
further
into
because
I
have
I
have
an
area
in
my
war.
That
is
exactly
the
same.
There
are
rental
townhouses.
There
are
rental
stacked
units
right
beside
a
very
large
Park,
but
mine's
also
exacerbated
by
a
a
very
large
movadi
fitness
center.
O
That's
that's
right
by
there
and
despite
the
fact
that
the
rental
development
is,
has
a
one-to-one
ratio
of
parking
to
units
a
lot
of
people
choose
not
to
you
rent,
those
sorry
pay
for
those
parking
spaces
and
therefore
clog
a
grow
first
drive
which
does
present
a
challenge
when
that
Park
is
really
well
used
in
the
summer.
It's
a
large
neighborhood
park.
O
AD
Experience
through
you,
Mr
chair,
we
can
definitely
work
on
some
of
the
some
parts
of
this
motion.
I
would
remind
I
guess
the
committee
that
this
is
also
going
through
site
plan
control,
and
so
that
is
another
process
where
we
can
continue
to
push
for
some
of
these
considerations.
So
there
is
another
process
that
accompanies
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment.
O
Okay,
but
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
the
the
considerations,
I,
guess
the
what
are
now
the
considerations
of
the
second
and
third
operative
Clauses.
Like
do
you?
Do
you
foresee
a
Time,
the
amount
of
time
that
you
need
to
consider
working
with
the
applicants
or
to
consider
requiring
the
owners
to
issue
warning
Clauses
and
all
that
stuff
to
include
that
in
the
zoning
by
law?.
Y
And
chair
just
through
you
quickly
as
well,
if
we're
not
debating
the
number
of
parking
spaces
on
the
site
today,
I
really
am
not
certain
about
delaying
the
zoning
either
because
that's
what's
before
us,
as
mentioned
some
of
the
nuances
that
you're
discussing
around
transportation
demand
management.
Those
matters
can
be
built
into
that
site.
Planning
process
and
Lucy
would
have
a
better
handle
on
where
we're
at
in
that
process.
Y
X
Certainly,
I'd
be
fine
to
add
a
firm
time
timeline
to
this.
You
know:
I,
don't
want
to
hold
this
development,
but
we
also
have
no
mechanism
for
influence
anymore
to
add
conditions
at
site
plan
because
of
Bill
109.
So
this
is.
This
is
an
unintended
consequence
of
a
of
a
provincial
act.
So
I
mean
I.
You
know
I
I'm,
at
a
loss
when
you
know-
and
this
this
is
no
disrespect
whatsoever
to
staff,
but
if
they
don't
agree
that
there's
an
issue,
then
they're
probably
not
going
to
do
anything
during
site
plan.
X
So
this
is
just
a
clear
signal
that
you
know
there
is
an
issue
that's
been
raised
by
the
community
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
in
a
serious
manner.
It
could
take
30
days.
That's
fine
with
me
too.
You
know
like
it
could
be.
The
next
planning
committee
meeting
I
just
want
this
issue.
Looked
at
and
there's
no
other
mechanism
for
me
to
to
to
to
ask
staff
on
behalf
of
my
community.
That's
come
out
today
in
large
numbers,
850
signatories
on
a
petition.
X
A
F
I
think
those
conversations
can
be
started
and
we're
certainly
happy
to
meet
if
it's
the
will
of
counsel
to
refer
this
back
to
staff.
We're
happy
to
to
you
know,
start
those
discussions,
but
I
I,
don't
believe
we're
able
to
you
know
bring
those
to
a
point
of
bearing
fruit
on
that
first
Preamble
or
the
first.
You
know,
subject
of
the
therefore
being
resolved
by
the
next
planning
committee.
F
A
N
I
do
see
some
some
legitimate
concerns
brought
forth
by
people
in
the
community
which
I
I
tend
to
to
wait
quite
heavily
and
I
I
think
we've
been
trying
to
get
there
with
staff
over
the
last
few
questions
and
I'm,
getting
the
sense
that
we
might
not
get
the
answer
to
this
question
specifically,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
posed
this
specifically.
Yet
how
long
would
it
take
you
to
come
back
to
committee
with
answers
to
these
questions
or
possible
new
conditions
or
additional
options.
F
N
Okay,
so
we're
not
going
to
get
a
timeline
there
I
understand
that
there's
probably
variables
that
are
out
of
everybody's
control
and
and
it's
difficult
to
nail
down,
but
it'd,
be
nice
to
have
something
to
work
with
staff
mentioned
the
idea
of
letting
letting
this
development
go
ahead,
as
is,
and
then
monitoring.
So
my
question,
there
is
what
what
happened.
N
Y
Counts
share
through
you
again,
it's
it's
due
to
the
confidence
I
guess
that
the
traffic
assessment
team
has,
with
with
the
track
traffic
in
place
today,
that
they're
willing
to
or
that
they've
suggested,
that
a
monitoring
approach
is
more
appropriate.
Some
of
the
things
we
could
look
to
at
that
point
would
be
a
further
reduction
in
parking,
so
either
reducing
that
hourly
parking
or
going
to
a
No
Parking
scenario,
which
would
require
a
petition.
A
Your
colleagues
beat
you
to
the
punch
and
I've
asked
the
clerk
to
the
coordinator,
bring
the
the
applicants
back
so
the
the
applicants,
just
in
terms
of
how
to
handle
this
rather
than
asking
them
formally
for
comment
for
the
time
being.
I'm
gonna
ask
the
applicants
to
come
back
into
the
room
and,
if
you
do
have
a
question
for
the
applicant
I'll,
give
them
the
latitude
to
answer
that
counselor
Kelly.
Did
you
want
to
pose
a
question
directly
to
the
applicant.
N
C
AF
AF
C
I
would
just
add
to
that
that
we
are
going
through
the
site
plan.
Application
process
with
staff
right
now
and
those
conversations
are
ongoing.
I
do
feel
it's
more
appropriate
to
address
those
sort
of
nuanced
discussions
through
site
plan
with
staff
and
to
allow
those
conversations
with
Community
Partners
to
happen.
N
Q
A
Q
A
I
think
the
the
counselor
is
concerned
and
I
can
ask
him
to
address
it
directly,
but
we
don't
have
leverage
over
that
site
plan
process
if
we
want
there
to
be
these
parking
mitigations.
At
this
point
because
of
the
way
site
plan
has
been
handled
by
The
Province,
our
option
as
politicians
is
to
send
the
zoning
back.
X
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
yeah,
thanks
thanks
for
the
question,
Teresa
I
do
appreciate
it
because
of
Bill
109.
There
is
there's
zero
influence
that
the
rule
that
the
the
ward
council
or
the
community
have
over
the
sideline
process
anymore.
This
is
the
only
mechanism
left
to
ensure
that
the
850
residents
that
signed
that
petition
that
identified
this
issue.
This
is
the
last
opportunity
for
them
to
have
a
voice
and
for
us
to
make
suggestions
and
changes
there
is.
X
There
is
I,
have
zero
influence
whatsoever
oversight
plan
anymore,
and
neither
does
neither
do
any
of
us
so
frankly,
this
is.
This
is
the
only
mechanism
that
we
have
in
order
to
have.
This
issue
addressed.
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
motivated,
a
very
motivated
developer,
with
a
with
a
great
project
like
I
can't
say
that
enough.
I
think
that
this
is
really
really
wonderful,
but
the
only
way
to
ensure
that
we
have
something
solid
in
place.
X
That's
going
to
address
the
issues
that
850
members
of
my
community
have
brought
forward
is
by
referring
this
back
to
staff
and
having
this
dealt
with
as
soon
as
possible.
I
really
think
that
they're
motivated
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
project
and
I
want
to
see
it
move
forward.
But
you
cannot
discount
nearly
a
thousand
people
saying
that
there's
a
problem
here
now.
Let's
say
that
this
doesn't
pass
today
and
it
moves
on
to
staff.
X
And,
yes,
you
know
I
trust
the
applicants
and
I
like
them
quite
a
bit,
and
they
say
that
they're
going
to
work
through
this,
but
there's
no
way
to
hold
anybody
to
that
anymore
because
of
Bill,
109
and
staff.
Do
not
believe
that
there's
an
issue
here
and
that's
okay,
I
mean
that's
their
opinion
and
I'm,
certainly
not
going
to
criticize
them
for
it
whatsoever.
X
But
a
thousand
people
nearly
in
this
area.
Disagree-
and
these
are
the
people
that
are
gonna,
have
to
deal
with
it.
Staff
that
work
on
this
don't
live
in
this
community,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
for
support
in
referral,
because
I
think
that
this
is
that
this
provides
additional
motivation
to
an
already
very
motivated
developer,
just
to
come
back
with
an
agreement
in
principle
to
to
sort
out
this
problem
so
that
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
it
again
and
make
a
problem
that
already
exists.
Worse.
Thank.
L
Thanks
I
will
be,
I
will
be
supporting
us
and
I
guess.
I
would
ask
counselors
to
consider
850
residents
in
your
area
that
that
rode
in
and
or
sign
something
indicating
yeah,
not
just
a
few
850..
That's
a
lot
of
people
saying
that
there
is
a
problem
here
and
I
can
appreciate
that
staff
say
there
isn't
a
problem
because
of
the
way
they've
calculated
their
numbers,
because
they're
they're
calculating
them
in
a
completely
different
way.
L
I,
don't
know,
I
never
have
I
seen
in
Canada,
where
there's
been
850
people
come
out
and
say
something
and
planning
staff
didn't
say
there.
There
wasn't
a
problem,
you
know,
but
if
you
just
do
the
math
that
way,
then
I
guess
you
can
conclude
that
but
I
think
we
as
a
committee
have
to
conclude
that
there
is
a
problem
and
that
if
there
is
a
way
to
to
figure
it
out
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
we
don't
have
site
plan
Powers.
L
You
know
we
have
only
this
power
right
now
and
I
hear
well
we'll
be
having
conversations
I.
Think,
there's
already
been
a
lot
of
conversations.
Conversations
are
not
commitments,
not
a
guarantee
they're,
just
conversations,
I
think
if
we
didn't
allow
zoning
now,
maybe
there
would
be
more
than
conversations
and
more
of
a
commitment
and
if
I
were
the
counselor
for
the
area,
I
would
be
wanting
a
commitment
on
this,
so
I
will
be
supporting
referral.
U
Look
I
I
feel
like
do.
I
need
to
unfurl
a
banner
that
says
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
housing
emergency.
It's
just
so
frustrating
to
me.
I
understand
that
there's
Community
concerns
I,
looked
at
the
substance
of
this
petition
that
residents
signed
in
the
majority
of
the
issues
that
are
brought
up
have
nothing
to
do
with
parking.
There's
concerns
about
negative
effect
on
property
values.
U
U
The
majority
of
people
who
live
in
low
income
housing
do
not
own
private
Vehicles,
so
you
know
I
just
think
this
is
rather
moot
I
think
it's
really
problematic.
You
know
whether
it's
this
application.
It's
not
just
this
application,
it's
this
one
and
the
next
one
and
the
next
one
and
the
next
one,
and
it
leads
to
an
unconscionable
delay
in
building
much
needed,
affordable
housing.
You
know
this
week,
I
had
an
individual
in
my
ward,
who
was
evicted
from
a
rooming
house.
U
I
have
nowhere
to
say,
send
him
I
have
to
tell
him
that
there
are
12
000
names
on
the
affordable
housing,
wait
list,
and
so
in
situations
like
this,
where
the
committee
is
clearly
in
support
of
the
project,
I,
don't
think
denying
delaying
and
is
doing
anything
other
than
lip
service,
because
the
reality
is
even
if
it
came
back
unchanged.
I
would
find
it
really
hard
to
believe
that
we
would
vote
It
Down
based
on
the
lack
of
10
parking
spaces.
U
So
anyway,
I
I
know
we
want
to
make
everyone
happy,
but
I
think
we
also
have
to
make
some
strategic
choices
and
those
strategic
choices
are
about
making
sure
that
people
in
our
community
have
a
place
to
live.
Homes
are
more
important
than
car
storage
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
if
we
just
keep
going
with
the
same
line
of
thought
that
you
need
a
car
in
this
community,
therefore
you
can't
imagine
not
having
one
it's
it's
it's
frustrating
to
me
as
someone
who
lives
in
a
ward.
U
That
is
accepting
many
many
many
many
residential
towers
and
many
many
developments
that
absolutely
do
not
have
one
parking
spot
per
home.
I
think
we
need
to
think
bigger
and
I
think
our
responsibility
is
to
provide
housing
to
our
whole
community
and
we
need
to
start
with
this
project
and
just
keep
going
until
until
we
knock
off
that
affordable
housing
wait
list,
I
think
anything
else
is
unconscionable.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Wow
I
I
don't
have
the
same
level
of
impassioned.
Oh
God
passion
that
our
counselor
troster
had
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
draw
some.
Some
I've
been
listening
very
closely
because
it
you
know,
with
counselor
Curry,
suggesting
that
we
think
about
our
community
I,
I
I'm
thinking
about
the
Pinecrest
recreational
complex,
which
is
right
in
the
middle
of
a
very
similar
situation.
It's
the
only
ball
diamond
or
the
only
Recreational
facility
in
Ottawa
that
has
six
ball
diamonds.
E
So
when
all
those
Ball
Diamonds
Are
full,
we
do
have
an
incredible
amount
of
of
parking
problems
in
college
Ward
and
it
is
extremely
frustrating
for
those
residents.
But
I
think
you
know
when
looking
at
a
zoning
application,
whether
or
not
this
site
can
handle
this
kind
of
density.
That
is
the
decision
before
us
and
what
I
think
what
we've
been
talking
about
today
and
I
I
can't
help
but
draw
parallels
to
the
to
the
Navan
Road
conversation.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councilor
Johnson,
if
I
may
offer
I
I
won't
be
supporting
the
referral
either.
The
kinds
of
measures
that
councilor
luloff
is
talking
about.
Car
sharing
parking,
sharing
the
provision
of
bus
passes
to
folks.
These
are
so
far
out
of
site
plan
considerations.
These
are
not
things
that
we
can
impose
without
an
applicant's
agreement,
and
the
question
that
I
have
is
what,
if
the
applicant
doesn't
agree
to
them,
staff
have
already
said
they
don't
agree
that
the
applicant
should
have
to
agree
to
them.
A
This
applicant
has
a
right
to
have
their
application
considered
within
statutory
deadlines.
I,
don't
know
where
we
are
on
those
statutory
deadlines.
We
haven't
made
them
so
this
applicant
has
a
right
to
take
this
right
to
the
Olt
in
order
to
seek
a
decision
and
the
Olt
is
not
going
to
consider
whether
or
not
the
provision
of
20
of
these
units
is
without
parking.
A
The
Olt
will
be
taking
a
look
at
all
the
language
in
our
official
plan
and
it
will
probably
say
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
development,
the
gentle
intensification,
the
gentle
shift
away
from
car
Centric
planning,
That
ottawa's
official
plan
speaks
to
and
I
don't
think
it
will
be
a
very
long
hearing
at
all
and
in
the
meantime
you
know.
If
it
did
go
to
hearing,
we
would
have
wasted
a
great
projects,
time
and
resources.
A
X
You
very
much
I
do
appreciate
those
comments
and-
and
yes
you
know,
I
agree
that
you
know
this
is
may
not
be
the
proper
mechanism,
but
it
is
the
only
mechanism
that
is
left.
So
it's
almost
like
a
chicken
in
the
egg
argument
between
the
chair
and
I,
where
it's
like
I
would
have
been
able
to
work
through
these
issues
through
site
plan
if
I
was
allowed
to
work
through
these
issues
at
site
plan,
but
because
of
Bill
109
that
doesn't
exist
anymore.
X
Consider
the
trust
that
the
people
that
voted
for
you
place
in
you
consider
that
for
a
moment
and
consider
if
850
of
them
didn't
vote
for
you,
some
of
you
wouldn't
be
around
this
table
right
now.
It
is
so
important
that
we
listen
to
our
community
when
you
have
nearly
a
thousand
people
come
and
tell
you
that
there's
a
problem
whether
or
not
staff
agree.
X
This
is
the
only
mechanism
that
I
have
left
because
of
Bill
109
to
be
able
to
bring
this
matter
to
a
close,
to
be
able
to
work
on
something
that
nearly
a
thousand
people
believe
is
a
problem,
and
it's
one
that
I've
witnessed
myself.
I
can
tell
you.
This
is
a
problem,
and
today,
if
we
don't
refer
this
back
to
a
very
motivated
developer,
a
very
motivated
developer,
this
problem
will
not
get
fixed
I
promise
you
that
it
won't
it's
not.
X
X
These
developers,
I
do
believe
that
they
are
operating
in
good
faith,
but
I
think
that
they
could
probably
they
would
probably
rather
spend
their
time
moving
forward
on
something
that
we
approved
today
than
dealing
with
these
kind
of
little
little
issues,
as
some
have
called
it.
This
is
not
a
little
issue.
This
is
an
issue
that
850
people
believe
is
a
problem
and
it
needs
to
be
fixed.
Thank
you.
A
H
B
U
M
A
R
A
H
Thank
you,
chair
and,
and
thank
you,
staff
and
I
colleagues.
I
will
be
brief.
I
promise
read
the
staff
report,
appreciate
the
update
and
had
a
chance
in
the
survey
a
few
hours
ago
to
talk
to
staff
a
little
bit
on
this
matter,
but
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
staff
in
their
report
have
talked
about
preparing
and
revising
secondary
plans.
Their
intended
work
plan
for
2023
includes
Lincoln
Fields,
Pinecrest,
Queensview,
Riverside
South
and
the
Confederation
Heights
matter,
the
latter
being
in
my
ward,
massive
new
development
over
the
next
25
years.
H
We
might
even
get
a
library,
hopefully
we'll
see
what
that
happens.
There
chair
I,
worked
with
the
my
community
along
the
Baseline
corridor
during
the
op
debates
and
discussions
in
the
community,
because
we
envision
significant
development
along
the
Baseline
Corridor
over
the
next
couple
decades
and
without
secondary
plan
in
place.
There's
some
concern
about
sort
of
the
wild
west
of
development.
H
The
past
or
the
former
general
manager
of
planning.
Mr
Willis
was
very
supportive
of
the
development
of
a
baseline
court
or
a
secondary
plan,
and
was
clear
that
this
would
be
a
priority
for
the
Department.
During
the
new
term
of
council,
so
my
question
to
staff
is
knowing
that
the
work
plan
will
be
coming
later
this
calendar
year,
and
that
was
confirmed
at
our
last
planning
and
housing.
Meeting
by
a
question
from
myself
is
the
Baseline
quarter
secondary
plan
still
a
priority,
a
top
priority
for
the
planning
department?
H
P
So
Mr
chair
in
terms
of
the
the
priorities
for
those
secondary
plans
that
will
be
identified
in
that
spring
report
I
think
it's
premature
to
make
any
commitments
on
which
plans
will
have
a
priority
and
certain
timelines.
So
that
will
come
forward
in
that
report.
I
can
offer,
though,
that
in
terms
of
secondary
plans,
the
intent
is
to
guide
development
where
we
would
see
local
major
physical
change
occurring.
H
So
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
that.
When
will
these
secondary
plan
review
timelines
be
articulated
in
the
work
plan
that
we'll
be
seeing
later
this
year?
Is
that
when
we'll
have
greater
Clarity
on
the
timelines
for
these
plans,
Mr
chair,
that
is
correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
All
right
I
have
a
very
involved
and
engaged
Association
Along
the
corridor
who,
after
reading
this
report,
thought
that
a
significant
investment
of
their
time
was
going
out.
H
The
window
tried
to
assure
them
that
that's
not
the
case
but
needed
to
get
it
on
the
record
today
that
this
plan
Baseline
quarter
as
well
as
the
others
that
are
listed,
are
priorities
and
will
have
greater
Clarity
when
the
work
plan
comes
out
this
year,
but
again
just
wanted
to
repeat
that
Mr
Willis
was
very,
very
supportive
and
an
agreement
that
Baseline
Corridor
needed
to
be
a
priority.
Thank
you.
E
Well,
similar
to
counselor
Brockington
I
was
wandering
to
what
extent
you're
and
I'm
sure
you
are,
but
to
what
extent
you
are
basing
those
priorities,
those
priorities
in
the
work
plan,
with
with
other
departments
with
respect
to
the
Baseline
Rapid
Transit
Corridor.
The
first
phase
is
actually
only
22
million
dollars
and
it's
considered
affordable
and
we're
going
to
start
installing
some
of
those
Transit
priority
measures
at
the
most
western
end
of
Baseline
in
2023,
four
million
dollars
Authority
has
been
assigned
to
that.
E
P
P
E
A
A
You
very
much
so
there
are
no
in-camera
items.
There
was
an
information
previously
distributed
on
cash
into
Parkland.
I
think
those
are
our
balances,
always
good.
Reading
the
are
there
any
notices,
the
motion
for
consideration
in
the
subsequent
meeting.
None
inquiries,
none
other
business.
We
do
not
have
any
adjournment.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
Monday
March,
20th
2023..
Thank
you
very
much.
Colleagues.