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Planning Committee meeting – April 12, 2016 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
B
B
All
right,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we'll
commence
with
a
planning
committee
before
we
begin,
though
I'll
just
make
a
quick
note.
Counselor
alan
hubley
is
representing
us
as
vice
chair
today.
B
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
because,
unfortunately,
the
chair,
as
you
know,
you
take
wild
horses
to
drag
her
away
from
this
table,
but
unfortunately
is
suffering
from
a
mild
concussion,
so
she'll
be
off
today,
and
we
wish
her
well
so
I'll
be
serving
as
chair
today.
That
being
said,
I'm
going
to.
B
Got
it
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
in
items
one
to
six
in
today's
agenda
for
the
items
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submission
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
this
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
application
must
maybe
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
B
So,
first
of
all,
any
declarations
of
interest
see
none
confirmation
of
minutes
march.
28
2019.
Are
these
confirmed
thanks
jeff
moving
on
to
the
agenda
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
We
do
have
a
delegation,
it's
related
to
10,
oh
blades
and
175
a
main
street,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
ron
rose.
Are
you
in
the
crowd
today?
Ron?
Okay,
good.
Thank
you
item
number
two.
Is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
20
mark
avenue?
B
We
have
a
speaker
here
today
as
well,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
item
number
three
is
a
263
greensway
ave
avenue
and
we
do
have
quite
a
few
delegations.
We
have
four
here
today
so
we'll
hold.
That
item
item
number
four:
we
have
it's
4840
bank
street.
I
do
have
a
daniel
flan
again
on
this
sheet.
Daniel
you're
here
are
you
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against.
B
Okay,
so
I
guess
we'll
have
to
we'll
hold
that
item
item
number
five.
We
have
a
4747
and
4755
bank
street.
We
have
no
speakers
on
that
one
yeah,
so
we
do
have
a
a
mending
motion
and
we
do
have
the
applicant
vincent.
If,
if
this
carries,
do
you
see
the
need
to
speak
vincent?
Are
you
here?
B
Okay,
so
seeing
that
yeah
absolutely.
B
So
on
that,
on
that
item,
I'll
go
to
vice
chair
hubley
to
read
the
amending
motion.
D
B
Great
thank
you
vice
chair
hubley,
so,
on
that
motion,
yep
go
forward.
E
Why
are
these
comments
being
added
at
at
this
point?
Was
she
not
circulated
on
the
report
in
the
first
place,
mr
chair?
Yes,
the
report,
her
request
for
comments
would
have
been
circulated
in
advance.
Okay,.
B
B
No?
Actually,
the
speaker
is
on
item
number
four.
So
item
number
five:
we
don't
have
any
speakers
listed
except
for
the
applicant
and
he
says:
there's
no
need
to
speak
if
this
one's
carried
so
on
item
five.
Is
that
carried
as
amended
carried
as
amended?
Thank
you
item
number
six.
We
don't
have
any
speakers
on
this
one
either
it's
4789
bank
street
on
this
item.
Is
this
item
carried
yeah
and
the
as
amended?
That's
correct
item
number
seven.
We
do
have
a
speaker
on
the
list.
B
So
it's
the
applicant
so
curtis
courtesy
in
the
crowd
here
today.
If,
if,
if
we're
good
with
this,
do
you
feel
the
need
to
speak
today?
Okay,
so
on
this
on
this
item
we
do
have
a
mending
motion,
I
believe
and
I'll
go
to
vice
chair.
D
Okay,
whereas
minto
has
undertaken
the
design
and
construction
of
similar
infrastructure,
I.e
roundabouts
along
brian
coburn
boulevard
within
the
last
year,
and
whereas
there
is
a
desire
to
ensure
consistency
of
work
and
ensure
the
project
meets.
The
city
timeline,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
to
approve
that
mito
may
extend
the
existing
design
and
construction
contract.
It
has
in
place
relating
to
the
design
and
construction
of
the
roundabout
at
brian
coburn
boulevard
and
strasbourg
street
to
proceed
with
the
proposed
works
identified
within
the
front-ending
report.
B
Great,
so
thank
you
for
that.
Vice
chair
hubley,
again
seeing
no
speakers
on
this
item
as
amended.
This
is
carried
great.
Thank
you
on
to
item
number
eight.
We
don't
have
any
listed
speakers
except
for
marie
chan,
but
that
being
said,
if
this
item
carries
murray,
do
you
feel
a
need
to
speak
today?
Great,
thank
you
so
much.
B
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
therefore
be
a
result.
The
planning
committee
recommend
the
council
that
the
report
recommendation
be
modified
to
the
following
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
bylaw
to
2008-250
for
175
a
main
street
to
permit
a
six-story
building,
as
detailed
in
document
two
details
of
the
recommended
zoning
for
building
2a
and
also,
therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
the
council
that
document
one.
D
The
location
map
be
revised
to
the
following
and
therefore
be
resolved,
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
that
document
2
details
a
recommended.
Zoning
for
building
2a
be
replaced
with
the
following:
the
proposed
change
to
the
city
of
ottawa,
zoning
bylot
2008-250
for
175
a
main
street
one
re-zone,
the
land
shown
in
document
one
as
follows:
a
rezone
area,
a
from
tm
2301
and
h
bracket,
20
to
tm
one
sorry
bracket,
one
h
bracket
20.
D
and
number
two
add
a
new
exception:
tm
bracket,
one
h
bracket,
20
to
section
239
urban
exceptions
with
the
provision
similar
in
effect
to
the
following
a
in
column,
2,
add
the
text,
tm
bracket,
1,
h20,
sorry,
bracket,
20.
and
b
in
column,
5,
add
the
text,
minimum
front
yard
setback,
2
meters,
maximum
front
yard
setback,
3
meters,
subsection,
197
bracket.
4
applies
with
respect
to
the
above
minimum
and
maximum
front
yard
setbacks.
However,
197
bracket
4
bracket
d
does
not
apply.
D
D
Two
has
a
maximum
floor
area
of
20
square
meters
and
therefore
be
it
result
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
the
council
that
document
3
details
of
the
recommended
zoning
for
building
2b
be
removed
from
the
report
and
therefore
be
resolved
that
there
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
subsection
34
bracket
17
of
the
planning
act.
That's
it
wow,
and
that
was
just
the
therefore
be
it
resolved.
B
Isn't
voice
chair
fun?
Isn't
that
a
wonderful
role
all
right?
So
on
that?
Thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and
we
have
mr
rose
here.
Mr
rose,
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak.
The
floor
is.
I
I
J
To
go.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
motion,
the
old
ottawa
east
community
association
supports
the
proposal
to
split
consideration
of
the
two
buildings
in
question.
J
J
While
the
old
ottawa
east
community
association
continues
to
have
some
concerns,
particularly
with
the
washrooms,
we
have
no
objections
to
this
proposal
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
B
Great
thank
you
very
much
for
that
that
delegation
today
any
questions
for
the
delegation
seeing
none.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
rose
next
up.
We
have
paul
goodkey
paul.
K
The
floor
is
yours.
Allow
me
to
speak,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
proposal
for
the
2a
building,
how
about
I
noticed
I've
been
away
for
about
a
week
on
holiday
and
there
were
some
new
drawings
added
to
the
the
dvap
website
dated
april
5th,
and
I
believe
this
is
one
of
them,
but
the
results.
Well,
this
is
one
of
them.
This
is
the
roof
that
I'm
I'm
wondering
about.
K
If
I
look
at
the
elevation
drawings,
I
see
some
projections
above
the
height
limit
at
the
main
street
frontage,
and
I
I
don't
know
what
that
is.
There's
three
columns
going
up,
whether
there's
a
roof
on
top
of
it.
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
think
they
must
be
an
error,
because
this
drawing
would
would
show
a
roof
at
the
dotted
line
on
the
right.
So
if
you
look
at
the
dotted
line,
that's
the
roof
of
the
penthouse
washroom
elevator
and
equipment
area,
but
just
like
confirmation
from
there
should
be
confirmation.
K
B
Great,
thank
you
so
before
you
leave
I'll,
certainly
make
note
of
that
and
ask
for
clarification
from
staff.
Is
there
any
questions
for
the
delegation
today,
seeing
none?
Thank
you,
mr
goodkey,
for
coming
out.
B
So
can
I
get
some
clarification
on
the
comments
made
by
the
delegation
place.
G
Certainly
part
and
parcel
with
this
application
for
zoning
amendment
is
also
an
application
for
site
plan
control
and
so
a
resubmission
to
that
site.
Plan
control
process
had
been
submitted
april
5th
and
posted
on
the
development
application
search
tool.
So
those
are
the
elevations
mr
goodkey
is
referring
to
I'm
happy
to
go
back.
I
don't
have
the
elevations
with
me
today,
but
I
can
clarify,
but
to
my
knowledge,
the
drawing
shown
on
the
screen
today
illustrates.
G
B
Great
thank
you,
for
that.
Is
there
further
questions
of
staff
councilman
eric.
H
Thanks
very
much
mr
chair
yeah,
certainly
on
mr
goodkey's
inquiry.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
do
have
that
information
solid,
because
I
think
everyone's
in
support
of
this
building.
I
am
as
well,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
it.
We've
got
it
right.
The
only
piece
that
I
would
like
to
see
potentially
changes
around
the
bathrooms
on
the
rooftop.
H
I've
spoken
with
regional
about
that,
and
actually
I
just
this
item
was
originally
deferred
because
mr
kurdish
couldn't
couldn't
be
here
for
the
item
is
mr
kardish
here
to
to
talk
with
cisco.
B
Well,
actually,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
the
applicants
if
they
wish
to
come
forward
and
speak
today.
We
have
quite
a
few
of
them,
so
who's
representing
representing
regional
group
here
today.
L
H
H
Because
he
couldn't
be
here
for
a
family
emergency
totally
understood
yeah,
but
here
we
are
and
he's
not
here.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I
am
in
favor
of
this.
Could
you
folks
potentially
comment
on
the
projection
that
mr
goodkey
was
talking
about?
Is
there
actually
a
further
projection
besides
the
two
that
were
that
were
originally
intended
in
that
area?
Has
that
been
changed
like
the
new?
The
new
dev
app
information
that
came
out
april
5th?
Has
that
changed
to
have
a
higher.
L
M
L
B
L
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
counselors.
My
name
is
kelly.
Rodenizer,
I'm
the
director
of
commercial
and
multi-family
development
here
at
regional,
I'm
here
with
erin
o'connor
who's,
the
manager
of
land
and
she's,
been
responsible
for
the
gravestone
development
we'd
like
to
thank
the
chair
and
counselors
for
accepting
the
deferral
or
application
until
today,
and
we
also
want
to
state
that
regional
is
in
support
of
the
motion
as
presented
to
separate
out
the
zoning
bylaw
to
move
forward
with
2a,
which
is
175
main
street.
L
It's
important
to
note
that
regional
has
not
filed
or
made
any
changes
to
the
building,
design
or
massing
of
tenobla,
which
is
the
nine-story
building
or
six,
and
the
plans
that
the
delegation
was
speaking
to
were
updated
site
plans
for
the
siteline
application.
L
M
I'll
try
to
move
through
this
as
quickly
as
possible.
I
think
it's
important
to
realize
from
a
design
perspective
as
you
get
into
something
that
things
evolve
and
change,
and
nothing
is
more
substantive
than
the
contrast
with
the
demonstration
plan
which
you
see
before
us,
which
we
inherited
when
we
started
to
work
on
this
project,
which
was
basically
a
mixture
of
six
and
six
story.
M
Condo
buildings,
sprinkled
across
the
site
it
had
a
combination
of
the
pink,
is
a
mixed
use,
mid-rise,
which
is
anything
four
to
nine
stories,
and
the
brown
was
mid-rise
res
lora,
mid-rise
residential.
This
was
our
first
master
plan.
I
think
it's
important
to
realize.
The
first
thing
we
did
was
actually
look
at
the
market,
actually
look
at
doing
a
plan
that
made
sense
in
terms
of
the
neighborhoods
around
it.
M
So
housing,
diversity
and
a
variety
of
form
is
really
important,
and
if
you
can
look
at
the
areas
that
are
dotted
and
our
initial
thought
was
hey,
these
should
come
down
and
we
should
do
those
as
low
rise
and
that
strategy
had
been
immensely
successful
because
we
immediately
had
people
moving
in
from
the
surrounding
neighborhood
who
didn't
have
housing
options
and
housing
options
are
really
important,
so
that
included
things
like
singles
and
towns,
which
would
currently
on
the
plan
with
a
much
finer
grain
pedestrian
scale.
Now
there
are
elements
that
are
higher
on
the
plan.
M
This
was
our
first
3d
model
of
phase
one
and
what
you'll
see
is
all
of
this
stuff
now
is
built,
and
this
is
under
construction.
But
you
also
realize
that
other
parts
of
the
scheme
are
evolving
and
changing,
because
that
we
can't
properly
anticipate
everything
and
one
of
the
significant
components
of
change.
Is
this
area
over
here,
which
is
now
seniors
and
retirement
home?
M
When
we
started
to
look
at
282b
of
the
mixed
use
right
on
oblats
and
on
the
grand
la
we
realized,
a
number
of
really
significant
shapers
one
is
that
the
grand
la
was
a
heritage
piece
would
preserve
the
view
to
the
day,
chatelet
building
it's
important
to
honor
that,
secondly,
along
the
grand
alley
was,
was
a
row
of
trees
which
had
root
balls,
which
had
to
be
accommodated,
so
our
wheat
actually
had
to
adjust
mass.
The
other
part
is
oblats.
Avenue
is
extremely
narrow.
M
We
didn't
realize
that
actually
no
parking
could
happen
on
oblast
and
then
the
other
is
a
market
notion
that
we
actually
break
up
the
block.
So
we
could
create
some
housing
diversity
and
form
diversity,
and
in
the
process
of
doing
this,
we
went
through
a
series
of
massing
allocations,
as
kelly
mentioned.
We
basically
the
end
of
that
is.
We
went
to
a
six
story,
which
is
two
eight
and
a
nine
story
which
is
2b,
but
in
part
of
that
it's
a
transferring
a
mass
and
trying
to
create
something
that
has
a
proper
human
scale.
M
So
now
I'll
speak
to
council,
menard
asked
me
about
these
elements.
This
is
just
a
pergola:
that's
on
the
roof.
That's
what
you're
talking
about!
There's
no
roof
over
top,
but
it's
basically
a
form,
but
in
designing
the
two
parts
of
the
building.
We
want
to
reflect
different
parts
of
the
site
potential
of
different
residents
and
also
break
up
the
massing
along
oblats
and
the
grand
la
so
here's
our
cross-sectional
diagram.
M
This
is
an
earlier
diagram,
so
it's
not
entirely
reflective
of
the
final
plan,
but
there
are
a
number
of
principles
that
are
important
to
this.
One
is
the
greater
setback
of
the
grand
la
which
leads
to
the
chatelaine
building,
the
accommodation
of
the
trees
and
a
very
and
the
other.
Is
this
notion
of
six
story:
datium
datum,
but
also
relief
along
the
grand
la?
So
you
see,
there's
a
major
courtyard.
M
I
just
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
cross
section,
that's
in
yellow
on
the
left,
which
is
your
tradition,
your
traditional
main
street
tm
zone
a
bit
of
a
rant.
I
don't
actually
believe
that
cross
section
makes
any
sense
for
ottawa.
I
actually
believe
that
what
happens
at
the
ground
plane
is
really
important
and
two
significant
examples
of
that.
M
Are
these
projects
which
are
recently
completed
one
end
counselor
both
of
the
council,
believers,
ward
and
that's
1140
wellington,
where
the
bethany
hope
building
is
and
the
other
one
is
westboro
station,
both
focus
on
what
happens
at
the
one
and
two
story
component.
That
is
the
most
important
thing
in
most
main
streets
in
ottawa.
M
This
notion
that
you
start
right
at
the
sidewalk
and
go
right
up
actually
is
creates
canyons,
and
the
best
example
I
can
think
of
that
is
the
nuns
property
in
just
west
of
island
park
drive
rant
is
over
the
the.
So
this
is
the
site
plan.
Just
so
you
see
what
we
did.
What
we
did
feel
was
important
was
that
there's
a
gap
in
between
these
buildings
that
provide
teaser
parking
access
to
servicing
loading?
All
of
that's
pulled
off
of
old
blast.
Oblats
is
too
narrow.
M
This
is
another
view
of
the
same
thing.
The
notion
of
the
offset
is
important
to
us
even
on
oblat,
so
you
can
see
that
the
building
has
an
offset
from
the
ground
plane
and,
as
you
look
down
the
street,
it
has
the
same
same
general,
low
blood
same
general
offset.
Those
are
my
my
key
points.
The
others
are
technical
drawings.
M
If
you
want
to
go
through
the
sun
shadows,
I
could
bore
you
to
death,
but
the
notion
of
a
gap
and
and
breaking
the
buildings
up
and
reducing
the
massing,
actually
improves
the
sun
shadowing
effect
and
creates
gaps
in
that
wall
that
could
exist
along
oblats
and
the
grand
valley.
That's
my
presentation,
mr
chair,
happy
to
answer
questions.
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
holman,
for
that.
Clearly,
you
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this,
so
I
do
appreciate
that
any
questions
for
the
applicants.
H
Thanks
very
much
mr
chair,
I
I
think
this
group's
done
a
great
job
with
with
2a.
I
think
that
they've
worked
with
the
community
on
2a
that
they've
worked
with
planning
and
come
up
with
a
design
that
works
well
for
this
community.
The
reason
why
is
that
it
doesn't
overshadow
the
day
chatelet,
building
it
fronts
on
to
main
street
and
provides
good
design
compared
to
the
corners
on
main
next
door
to
it,
which
was
originally
already
put
in,
and
so
I
think,
kudos
to
what
you've
done
on
2a.
H
I
think
it's
important
the
planning
committee
members
know
why
we're
here
today
why
the
motion
came
from
mr
tierney,
mr
mr
hubley,
the
original
plan
for
this
space.
There
was
concern
about
the
secondary
plan.
The
there
was
a
disagreement
over
whether
the
secondary
plan
allowed
for
a
nine-story
building
at
2b.
So
that's
why
the
motion
is
in
front
of
you
today.
It
allows
the
separation.
2A
can
be
considered
on
its
own
and
there
will
be
no
lpat
review
of
that,
and
so
it
can
just
go
through
and
start
to
start.
H
Construction,
2b
and
other
areas
of
the
site
will
go
through
an
official
plan
process
to
look
at
an
amendment.
H
I
think
the
community
welcomes
this
as
well
to
get
some
clarity
on
what's
there,
but
the
same
design
principles
that
are
being
used
for
2a,
I
think,
need
to
come
into
process
for
for
2b
in
terms
of
the
historical
context
of
this
area
and
the
design
work,
and
so
I
I
want
to
ask
staff,
because
I
just
saw
the
motion
language
yesterday
around
7
pm
in
terms
of
this
emotion
of
this
significance,
but
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
H
I
just
normally
would
like
to
see
that
a
bit
earlier,
but
in
terms
of
the
official
plan
process,
which
is
part
of
this
motion
for
2b,
can
you
explain
to
me
how
that'll
work
in
terms
of
community
being
involved
their
input?
It's
not
like
just
an
amendment
to
a
zoning
that
to
me.
I
think
it's
more
important
than
that
and
we'll
take
into
context
other
elements
of
the
site
is
that
correct.
E
H
Okay,
fantastic.
What
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
is
to
say:
okay,
look,
we're
just
doing
an
official
planned
process
to
give.
You
know
exactly
what
was
asked
for
in
the
first
place
in
this
space.
That
shouldn't
be
the
case.
There
should
be
true
community
consultation
input
on
this.
So
with
that
being
said,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
motion-
I
I
wish
the
washrooms
would
be
changed.
I
don't
know
if
that's
if
someone
from
committee
wants
to
bring
a
motion
forward
on
that,
but
I
support
it.
Otherwise,
so
thanks
very
much.
B
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
to
the
applicant
for
coming
out
today,
any
questions
further
to
staff
see
none
on
this
item.
As
amended.
Is
this
carried?
Oh,
I
have
to
carry
the
motion
first.
So
is
the
motion
carried
and
the
amending
motion
is
that
vice
chair
who
be
read
out?
Is
that
carried
he's
not
reading
it
again,
it's
in
front
of
you
so
carried.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
A
Thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
chris
greenshields,
I'm
with
the
vanier
community
association,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
of
the
vca.
A
The
vca
supports
the
application
to
rezone
the
site
of
20
mark
avenue
in
kingsview
park.
Our
committee
and
local
residents
have
actively
engaged
in
the
consultations
on
this
project
and
the
related
project
at
263
greensway.
A
The
three-story
building
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
area's
r4
zoning
and
most
of
the
property
existing
property
use,
which
is
a
parking
lot,
so
we
don't
see
it
as
spot
zoning,
as
mentioned
the
building,
although
higher
appears
to
fit
well
with
the
adjoining
and
opposite
two-story
apartment
buildings
and
the
adjoining
property
on
on
the
west,
which
is
currently
used
as
a
group
home.
A
Replacing
a
parking
lot
used
by
residents
on
mark
avenue
does
represent
a
challenge,
but
the
community
has
identified
another
underutilized
parking
lot
nearby.
We
are
not
convinced,
however,
that
residents
would
use
the
proposed
parking
garage
for
the
way
further
away
at
263,
greensway
resident
permit
and
other
parking
are
also
available.
A
We
welcome
the
fact
that
at
least
one
unit
will
be
fitted
for
disabled
use.
It
may
be
useful
to
consider
a
parking
space
for
a
future
disabled
tenant,
either
adjoining
the
new
building
or
with
a
disabled
parking
space
on
the
street.
The
revisions
to
the
side
setback
are
a
concern,
but
we
hope
these
can
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
separate
site
plan
control
process.
A
The
proposal
to
add
two
sub-grade
units
at
two
other
apartment
buildings-
so
we're
not
just
talking
about
20
mark
in
the
vicinity,
is,
is
a
concern
not
only
because
of
the
flood
plain
conditions,
but
also
because
basements
in
the
area
are
periodically
flooded
by
storm
water,
not
not
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
We
trust
that
appropriate
measures
will
be
taken
to
minimize
the
risk
of
storm
water
damage
in
the
renovation
and
to
provide
indemnification
to
to
tenants
should
the
situation
rise.
A
It
is
important
to
increase
the
availability
of
affordable
housing
choices,
and
thus
we
support
the
proposal
on
this
basis.
I
want
to
thank
planning
staff
for
their
active
engagement
on
this
project
to
get
together
with
that
of
263
greensway.
Thank
you.
B
D
N
Mr
chair,
yes,
there's
from
a
bylaw
compliance
point
of
view,
there's
no
parking
required
for
this
new
building
through
consultation.
There
was
comments
about
the
need
for
perhaps
a
short-term
parking
space
or
drop
off
at
the
back
of
the
site
that
got
incorporated
into
the
plan.
B
Wonderful,
so
any
further
questions
to
the
applicant
to
staff,
seeing
a
nun
was
there
any
amendments
on
this
one
no
way
so
on
this
item
item
number
two
20
mark
avenue.
Is
this
item
carried
great?
Thank
you,
mr
grinshield.
Since
you're
already
there
we'll
go
on
to
item
number
three
263
greensway
avenue,
you're
actually,
first
on
the
speakers
list
so
five
minutes
the
floor
is
yours.
A
Thank
you
chair.
A
member
should
already
have
our
more
detailed
written
submission.
Our
main
objection
to
the
rezoning
application
for
263
greensway
is
the
proposal
for
spot
zoning
to
permit
a
higher
rise
building.
That
is
incompatible
with
the
neighborhood
planning
committee.
Recently
correctly,
I
think,
refused
an
application
for
a
spot
zoning
to
accommodate
expansion
of
an
existing
use
on
island
park
drive.
A
The
report
cites
the
official
plan
concerning
consideration
of
the
character
in
the
surrounding
community
as
a
factor
in
determining
compatibility,
a
four-story
building
consistent
with
existing
zoning
and
flood
plain
restrictions.
We
think
will
meet
the
plan's
objective
objective
of
intensification.
A
It
it
fits
in
terms
of
streetscapes
character
and
enlivens.
It
not
so
eloquent
about
263
greensway
city
staffer
have
commended
20
mark,
but,
unlike
20
mark,
which
also
backs
on
properties
on
montreal
road.
The
report
describes
the
greensway
application,
largely
in
terms
of
its
relation
to
montreal
road
as
a
transition
to
the
existing
neighborhood.
Well,
it
doesn't
really
address
the
existing
neighborhood,
the
residential
area,
there's
no
reference
to
responding
to
the
street
streetscape
character.
Instead,
it
dominates
the
streetscape.
A
A
Instead,
we
seem
to
have
an
approach
by
staff
to
justify
spot
rezoning
in
a
small
portion
of
property,
zoned
r4
with
the
rest
of
mark
street
corridor,
an
approach
that
is
not
compatible
with
the
budding
low-rise
building
forms
and
community
use
in
favor
of
rezoning
so
that
it
might
better
transition
to
a
higher
building
if
another
exception
is
permitted
for
an
abutting
tm
zone
property
under
the
secondary
plan.
Instead
of
relating
green's
weight
as
a
residential
property
to
the
adjacent
neighborhood,
there's
a
circuitous
argument
made
to
relate
it
to
the
potential
development
on
montreal
road.
A
Despite
the
proposed
ring
around
greensway
rezoning
also
risks
opening
the
door
to
similar
re
residential
redevelopment
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
resulting
in
a
situation.
We
fear
similar
to
heron
gate
where
affordable
housing
is
being
eliminated.
Such
a
trend
would
undermine
the
official
plan
and
provisions
concerning
affordable
housing.
The
proposed
floodplain
limits
do
not
justify
a
six-door
building.
It
may
have
been
better
to
turn
this
portion
of
the
property
into
green
space
befitting
of
a
flood
plain,
but
we
have
supported
intensification
and
infield
here
with
suitable
landscaping,
given
the
floodplain
and
periodic
storm
water
damage
according.
A
A
Aside
from
the
reduced
green
space,
there
are
safety
issues,
as
the
report
points
out
with
the
garage
entry
abutting,
the
mup,
together
with
the
proposed
open
access
to
the
vanity
parkway,
the
project
design
risks
promoting
more
of
the
existing
criminal
activity,
particularly
behind
the
tim
hortons.
Recalling
the
mistakes
around
the
cities
now
closed
waller
street
mall
across
from
the
booth
shelter,
together
with
the
ongoing
criminal
issues
here
and
the
pending
decision
of
a
mega
shelter
nearby.
This
committee
risks
repeating
mistakes
outlined
in
the
citizen
article
on
the
mall
fiasco
almost
exactly
one
year
ago.
A
A
So
much
so,
in
our
view,
greensway
clearly
fails
the
same
test.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
I
As
we
have
just
heard,
the
owner
of
these
apartments
has
applied
to
the
city,
to
rezone,
from
r4
to
r5
an
adjacent
parcel
of
land
known
as
263
greensway
mark
avenue.
Now,
houses
11
apartment
buildings
constructed
in
1951.,
a
12th
building,
is
located
immediately
in
front
of
the
proposed
six-storey
structure.
I
This
is
not
to
suggest
that
the
developer
has
been
a
bad
landlord
a
few
years
back,
for
instance,
new
windows
were
installed
in
recent
years.
However,
there
have
been
obvious
signs
of
neglect:
repairs
have
been
hard
to
arrange
and
the
cleaning
of
the
hallways
and
shared
laundry
rooms
is
perfunctory
at
best
on
the
outside.
The
entrance
doors
are
encased
in
attractive
wooden
frames.
I
I
B
Right
right
down
to
the
second,
so
thank
you
for
that.
Seeing
no
questions
to
the
delegation.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
today.
Next
up,
we
have
linda.
O
O
O
I
asked
to
speak
today
to
express
my
concern
or
fears
that
the
city's
decision
to
approve
spot
zoning
at
263
greensway
will
create
a
future
precedent
for
the
older
apartment
buildings
on
mark
avenue.
Why
do
I
think
this?
Because
these
buildings,
built
in
1951,
have
been
neglected
and
barely
kept
up
to
standards?
O
O
O
B
P
O
Green
shield,
mr
lumsden,
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
question
that
I'm
I'm
not
fearful
that
they're
going
to
kick
me
out
tomorrow
and
that
I'm
going
to
be
part
of
the
heron
gate.
It's
just
that
it
has
been
an
affordable
area.
For
me.
O
It
permits
me
to
do
other
things
in
my
life
and
I
love
the
environment,
the
we're
next
to
the
river,
the
trees,
it's
beautiful.
If
we
start
building
high-rises
along
that
area,
we're
going
to
end
up
looking
like
rito
street,
which
is
just
horrible
now-
and
I
really
I'm
just
concerned,
I'm
expressing
my
concern
today,
because
I
support
what
mr
greenshield
has
just
expressed,
and
mr
lumsden
is
the
fear
that
we
start
with
spot
zone
in
one
area
and
the
next
thing.
We
know
that
whole
street
will
become
a
spot.
So
I
just.
P
Wanted
to
clarify,
so
I
recognize
your
opposition
to
the
proposed
force.
What
was
what
is,
what
would
be
permitted
a
four
story,
but
is
proposed.
The
sixth
story
I
get
to
in
terms
of
the
263
greensway,
but
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
as
a
tenant
of
those
properties
at
this
time,
you're
at
no
risk
of
losing
your
unit
correct.
Q
Q
Design
it
respect.
The
immediate
surrounding
the
development
of
20
mark
is
consistent
with
the
guideline
for
low
rise.
Infills,
his
conveyor
low,
rising,
feel
to
come.
Le
van
mark
is
accepting.
B
P
So
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
community
concerns
relating
to
the
263.
Obviously,
the
pending
pending
the
review
today
there
would
be
further
elements
relating
to
design
and
landscaping
and
so
on,
relating
to
site
plan.
But
notwithstanding
the
last
speaker
asked
questions
relating
to
the
change
in
zoning
to
an
r5
and
what
that
would
what
that
means
relating
to
potential
risk
for
neighboring
properties
or
that
that
community
can
make.
P
Can
we
get
maybe
a
clarification
point
of
clarification
from
from
staff
on
risk
relating
to
to
the
zone,
which
is
an
r4
and
and
the
specific
application.
N
Mr
chair
I'll
answer
the
first
part
of
that
question
in
that
it
went
to
an
r5
zone
because
that's
the
zone
code
that
would
allow
a
mid-rise
building.
So
from
a
just
a
zoning
code
perspective
we
needed
to
go
r5
to
recognize
the
mid-rise.
Each
application
is
reviewed
on
its
own
merits
and
there's
no
proposals
before
us.
Right
now.
N
On
the
balance
of
mark
avenue,
I
haven't
seen
anything
to
indicate
that
any
are
coming,
but
if
applications
that
the
community
do
fear,
those
again
will
be
reviewed
on
their
own
merit
and
I
think
just
to
further
talk
about
that.
The
difference
in
the
rationales
that
was
spoken
to
in
the
two
reports
between
20
mark
and
216
greensway.
N
My
opinion
is
that
the,
although
on
the
same
corridor
in
the
same
street,
the
site
context
of
those
two
properties
is
vastly
different,
which
is
why
you
see
the
resulting
of
the
the
two
different
proposals.
So
is
there
a
risk?
I
can't
answer
that,
but
if
such
an
application
would
come
in,
it
would
be
reviewed
on
its
own
merit,
and
this
proposal
for
263
greensway
would
not
set
a
precedent.
P
It's
certainly
something
committee
that
we
have
to
to
watch
for,
and
you
know
if
there
were
other
applications
coming
in
as
an
r4
in
that
specific
area
I
would
flag
it,
but
based
on
the
applicant
coming
and
just
further
down
the
street
coming
in
within
the
within
the
zone.
To
me,
it
indicates
that
there's
specific
elements
to
that
site
that
really
rears
on
to
the
the
vanity
parkway,
that's
unique
to
that
site,
which
I
believe
can
can
can
accept
more
height
and
more
more
rental
apartments.
P
That
said,
I
do
think
that
the
mark
street
corridor
is
a
very
stable
rental
community
and
and
there's
an
appetite
not
just
from
the
existing
community,
but
those
in
the
surrounding
that
that
that
stays
that
that
stability
stays
for
that
street,
so
I'm
viewing
those
application
as
completing
the
the
envelope
of
of
of
what
is
the
potential
along
that
corridor.
P
Obviously,
we
can't
speak
to
montreal
road
because
this
is
not
a
property
that
faces
onto
montreal,
but
for
for
that
specific
community,
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
the
application
in
the
context
that
further
down
the
street,
they
didn't
come
in
and
ask
for
a
rezoning
to
an
r5
they're
respecting
the
r4
zone.
So
there
there's
there's
a
good
example
to
say
that
there's
stability
along
that
street
in
the
neighborhood.
J
You
know
I
think
they've
answered
andrew
has
answered
it
mark
avenue
as
a
potential
r5.
I
think
what
I
heard
is
that
you
would
you
know
on
a
preliminary
basis,
consider
it
to
be
very
different.
We
wouldn't
see
six
stories
marching
down.
Mark
avenue.
Sorry
once
again,
why
not?
What
is
different
about
the
context
along
mark
that
would
keep
that
height
at
the
r4
height
versus
what
I
consider
to
be
kind
of
a
corner
and
an
edge
condition.
N
Mr
chair,
I
I
view
the
valley
balance
of
mark
avenue
as
an
edge
condition
to
the
existing
low-rise
neighborhood,
where
it's
it's
not
fronting
on
vanier
parkway,
it's
not.
It
doesn't
have
that
unique
site
context
where
a
six-story
building
would
have
enough
room
to
provide
that
transition.
N
A
K
I
just
to
respond
to
mr
chair.
Roosevelt
is
a
different
situation
in
the
planning
department's
opinion,
based
on
the
configuration
of
the
traditional
main
street,
having
a
sawtooth
pattern
in
that
area,
and
we
felt
that
and
that's
in
our
zone
that
we
put
there
behind
roosevelt
as
well,
not
a
traditional
main
street.
It
was
to
be
sort
of
a
transition
to
that.
Allowing
for
buildings
that
started
at
six
to
go
down
to
four
into
two
stories
to
to
reflect
upon.
K
The
the
height
of
buildings
already
exist
further
along
roosevelt,
so
those
are
two
different
situations
and
the
one
that
andrew
was
talking
about
here
along
this
main
street
and
how
mark
avenue
or
mark
street
has
a
parallel
road
to
this.
It's
a
different
context.
N
All
right,
mr
chair,
from
the
official
plan
designation,
the
the
property
is
located
in
the
general
urban
area
designation.
The
proposal
for
us
was
for
a
residential
use
building,
which
is
consistent
with
that
designation
and
the
r5
zoning
is
what
we
went
with.
It
was
based
on
the
proposal
before
us
all
right.
E
B
Great
to
thank
you
for
that
council
moffat
any
further
questions
of
staff.
Seeing
none
on
this
item
is
this
item
carried
sure.
Thank
you
on
to
the
next
item.
Item
number
four:
I
want
to
thank
mr
flanagan
for
hanging
out
for
so
long.
If
I
can
get
you
to
come
forward,
this
item
is
4840
bank
street.
We
only
have
one
speaker
of
note.
F
Sorry,
okay:
this
is
in
regards
to
the
developments
at
4747
bank,
street
4755
bank,
street
4789,
bank
street
and
4840
bank
street
residential
areas
are
surrounding
the
litrium
wetlands
and
there's
a
lot
of
conflictions
with
the
wildlife
and
the
human
activity.
There
are
snapping
turtles
roaming
around
in
finley
creek
turtles
getting
hit
on
roads,
turtles
nesting
in
sand
boxes
anyways.
F
F
This
is
very
important
to
protect
this
area
and
that's
why
I
oppose
the
decision
for
this
development
because
there's
just
too
much
going
on
between
the
sensitive
wildlife
here
and
all
the
new
developments
surrounding
it
with
it.
In
the
middle
kind
of
like
a
donut
anyways,
I
will
go
on
further
more.
There
are
more.
F
F
This
fence
will
need
to
be
surrounding
the
entire
development
area.
The
time
of
installation
will
need
to
take
place
at
the
donna
spring
right
after
the
winter.
Snow
and
ice
is
gone
because
these
snappers
will
start
wandering
after
winter
hibernation
in
the
clearing
area.
I
have
seen
this
at
a
nearby
area
being
cut.
F
These
snapping
turtles
will
flee
to
or
any
turtles
will
flee
to
bank
street
where
they
face
road
mortality
once
construction
is
complete,
the
snapping
turtles
and
other
turtles
will
need
to
adapt,
but
their
home
and
referee
refuge.
The
legion
wetlands,
along
with
the
parkland
surrounding
this,
must
always
remain
untouched.
D
I
just
wanted
it's
unfortunate
that
the
the
counselor
for
the
area
couldn't
be
here
today,
but
she
talks
in
that
amendment
that
she
wants
to
try
and
preserve
some
of
the
trees
in
that
area.
But
she
doesn't
match
anything
about
the
turtles.
Have
you
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
her
about
the
the
turtles.
F
I
haven't
talked
to
her
about
the
turtles,
but
residents
in
the
area
have
been
unhappy
with
large
snapping
turtles.
There's
been
large
snapping
turtles
found
on
bank
street
in
finley
creek
that
have
died.
There
been
hit
by
cars,
one
of
them
fleeing
a
cutting
area
on
bank
street,
where
there's
more
development,
so
especially
snapping
turtles
that
belong
to
the
wetlands
are
having
a
hard
time
with
the
people
or
the
people
are
having
a
hard
time
with
them
and
well.
D
I
would
encourage
you
to
talk
to
her
because
there's
mitigation
measures
that
can
be
taken
and-
and
I'm
not
sure-
because
she's
not
here
to
tell
us
if
that
was
the
intent
of
that
amendment
or
not
what
she
wanted
to
do
with
it.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
her,
because
there
are
steps
that
she
can
take
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
R
B
Any
further
questions
to
the
delegation
see
none.
Thank
you
very
much
daniel
for
coming
out
today.
I
appreciate
that
so
on
this
item
we
do
have
the
applicant
aaron
o'connor
and
vince
de
nome
from
clearage.
Do
you
see
the
need
to
speakers
any
questions
from
the
from
the
committee
for
our
applicant
today?
I
don't
see
any
questions.
Do
you
feel
the
need
to
speak
today.
G
There
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
planning
committee,
my
name
is
aaron
o'connor,
I'm
the
manager
of
land
development
with
the
regional
group
and
the
applicant
for
this
property.
G
This
property
includes
a
range
of
housing
types
from
singles
to
towns
to
medium
rise.
It
also
includes
a
commercial
block
and
it
also
includes
parkland
and
the
area.
A
that's
on
that
plan
is
part
of
a
casino
wetland
buffer
which
is
about
a
hundred
meters
from
the
casita
wetland.
The
elitrum
wetland
is
actually
further
east.
I
don't
know
how
many
meters,
but
it's
significantly
further
from
this
development
and
the
signif.
The
leech
from
wetland,
also
has
a
120
meter
buffer
from
that.
G
I
just
wanted
to
mention
with
you
know
this
site,
as
well
as
the
one
to
the
north
of
it
there's
a
large
professional
team,
who's
monitoring
the
activities
in
that
site
and
over
construction.
They
do
monitor
and
we
do
have
a
biologist
on
site,
though
we
haven't
seen
any
turtles
yet.
So
that's
all,
I
have
to
say.
G
Point
so
through
the
subdivision
process,
there
are
conditions
for
not
not
this
subdivision,
but
the
one
to
the
west
and
north
is
abutting
the
wetland
itself.
It's
on
the
other
other
slide.
So
we
are
working
with
the
conservation
authority
to.
G
So
we
are
working
with
the
conservation
authority
with
respect
to
the
subdivision
agreement
and
any
buffering
or
fencing
would
have
to
be
approved
by
them.
D
So
to
follow
along
that,
I
think
councilman
and
I
share
the
same
concern
so
the
all
the
protocols
that
are
in
place
for
dealing
with
wildlife.
We
have
them
across
the
city
that
we
do
these
kinds
of
things
all
that's
all
being
followed.
I
believe
you
mentioned
the
conservation
authorities
already
involved
as
well,
and
has
there
been
like
any
public
presentation
about
the
measures
being
taken,
because
normally
we
take
quite
a
few
steps
to
make
sure
that
you
know
turtles,
aren't,
hurt
or
any
other
species
in
the
area.
C
Mr
there
was
a
public
meeting
held
in
the
community.
This
was
not
identified
as
a
concern.
It's
it's
a
historically.
It
has
been
a
large
issue
with
the
development
of
litrium,
but
this
particular
subdivision
is
actually
somewhat
removed
from
that.
So
it's
somewhat
not
surprising
that
that
wasn't
raised.
B
B
Thank
you
so
we're
on
to
our
final
item
today,
which
is
item
number
eight
item
number
eight,
is
the
the
official
plan
amendment
150
settlement
of
appeals,
building
heights
and
design.
D
B
Great
thank
you
for
that.
So
at
this
point
we
do
have
staff.
We
do
have
murray
chown
on
the
speakers
list.
Murray.
Are
you
here
great
thanks
for
hanging
out?
Do
you
wish
to
speak
today?
B
I
I
believe
this
was
held
by
council.
Menard
were
your
questions
to
would
you
have
any
questions
to
mr
chan,
or
would
it
be
the
staff
only
to
staff?
Thank
you
very
much
murray.
So
we'll
go
right
to
questions
to
staff
council
menard
thanks.
H
Very
much,
mr
chair
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions
and
if
you
could
just
go
through
the
process
a
little
bit
with
me,
we're
trying
to
settle
this
this
amendment
before
it
goes
to
lpat,
and
this
kind
of
carries
on
with
a
council
instruction
back
in
2016
that
sort
of
directed
us
to
do
this
for
a
number
of
a
number
of
amendments.
H
In
this
scenario,
when
these
are
presumably
approved,
will
the
new
official
plan
sort
of
these
will
sort
of
be
written
in
stone
in
the
new
official
plan?
I
I
take
it
that
that,
with
the
update
that
happens
likely,
these
amendments
that
are
occurring
now
would
continue
right,
along
with
that
update
of
the
official
plan.
E
H
Okay,
that
that's
helpful
and
then
in
terms
of
the
this
one
in
particular,
there's
one
section
I
did
want
to
get
some
more
insight
from
staff
on
and
that
that's
the
repeal
of
item
179
and
the
introducing
a
new
policy
13..
H
Can
you
go
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
details
of
document
one?
Can
you
just
go
through
the
rationale?
Why
we're
doing
that?
It
seemed
to
be
that
we
were
receiving
applications
anyway.
They
were
getting
approved
for
for
height
variances,
either
way,
and
that
this
was
sort
of
an
impediment
to
that
all
right.
I'd
like
to
just
get
more
information
for
the
rationale
for
removing
that
one.
R
Certainly,
mr
chair,
the
current
policies
on
major
urban
facilities.
Don't
do
not
have
any
height
limits
whatsoever.
They
only
require
a
zoning
amendment,
and
these
are
typically
major
major
developments,
hospitals,
universities
and
the
like.
There's
a
requirement
in
the
official
plan
that
any
of
these
facilities
locate
near
transit
transit
facilities
when
we
were
doing
opa
150
there
was.
The
emphasis
was
on
certainty
that
these
are
projects
that,
in
any
any
circumstance,
get
a
high
degree
of
scrutiny
and
evaluation.
S
S
It
goes
on
to
speak
about
specific
locations
and
you
know,
transit
priority
routes
and
speaks
to
transit
in
the
last
little,
while
and
and
actually
probably
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
we've
been
having
this
discussion
about
what
comes
first
transit
or
or
development,
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
how
this
ties
into
does
it
mean
future
transit?
Are
we
talking
about
existing
transit?
S
It
speaks
to
major
intersections,
for
instance,
that
could
be
conducive
for
transit
priority,
but
we
know
that
at
this
point
only
one
bus
runs
down.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
get
some
clarification
when
we're
speaking
about
transit.
Are
we
talking
about
current
state
we're
talking
about
future
state?
Are
we
talking
about
vision
state?
What
are
we
looking
at.
R
The
plan
is
set
up
as
a
vision
of
the
future
and
we
have,
in
our
official
plan,
a
transit
plan
that
is
the
ultimate,
and
that
includes
potential
locations
for
stations
and
in
those
locations.
We
encourage
development
because
it's
better
to
get
the
development
in
there
to
support
the
transit
when
it
is
delivered.
S
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
definitely
need
to
be
looking
at
as
we're
amending
the
official
plan,
the
tmp,
as
well
as
any
future
developments
that
we
need
to
look
at
how
transit
is
going
to
not
just
be
in
the
future,
but
what
we
can
do
to
encourage
those
developments
to
incorporate
transit
focused
because,
I'm
being
just
selfish,
I'm
looking
at
one
that's
coming
up
in
my
ward.
I
know
we
just
passed
one
at
the
intersection
of
hunt
club
in
riverside.
S
We
need
to
start
being
proactive
and
making
sure
that
we're
looking
to
the
future
but
incorporating
the
elements
now
that
will
provide
some
relief.
So
I'm
fine
with
all
of
this.
I
just
wanted
that
clarification,
but
now
that
I
know
that
this
is
going
to
feed
into
the
conversation
going
forward
that
has
to
be
at
the
forefront.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you.
I'm
looking
around
seeing
no
further
questions
of
staff
on
this
item.
Item
number
eight
official
plan
150
settlement
appeals-
is
this
item
carried
yep,
so
we're
carrying
the
motion
first
and
then
vice
chair
hubli
read
out
the
amending
motion
so
on
the
amending
motion.
Is
that
carried
great?
So
we
have
no
modus
notices
of
motion,
no
inquiries,
other
business.
This
will
be
adjournment.
Our
next
meeting
will
take
place
thursday
april
25th
2019..
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone.