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Planning Committee meeting – June 23, 2015 – Audio Stream
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A
All
right
we
have
quorum
so
we'll
get
going.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
four,
five,
six
and
nine
on
today's
agenda
for
the
item
listed
above.
Only
those
who
make
oil
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appear
the
matter
to
the
entero
municipal
board.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
internal
municipal
board.
A
A
B
A
And
so
that
would
come
forward
to
our
July
7th
meeting
and
then
we'll
be
asking
it.
Then
it
be
bumped
to
Council
in
the
next
day,
July
8th,
okay,
is
that
carried
as
amended
I
guess
it's
carried
as
amend
it
because
we
have
thank
you
number
two
is
the
application
for
demolition,
a
new
construction
of
220
sandwich
row
properly
designated
under
part
five
of
the
internal
Heritage
Act
and
located
in
the
Rockland
Park
Heritage
Conservation
District.
We
have
no
speakers
registered
as
anyone
on
committee
want
to
hold
this
item,
though,
as
it
carried
them.
A
Thank
you
item
number
three
is
the
application
for
a
demolition
and
new
construction
again
in
Rita
Walker
Florida,
285,
acacia
Avenue,
it's
a
property
designated
under
part,
five
of
the
interior
Heritage
Act
and
located
as
I
said
in
the
Heritage
Park
in
the
raca
Park
Heritage
Conservation
District
I
have
no
one
registered
to
speak.
Does
anyone
want
to
hold
this
for
questions?
No.
Does
it
Carrie?
Thank
you.
A
Is
that
my
warrant
and
it
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
37:18
Green
Bank
Road
I,
mean
even
though
it's
for
265
dwelling
units
I
try
to
think
of
it
as
housekeeping
in
their
greater
scheme
of
things,
and
it
just
is.
We
do
have
pets
here
from
4chan
to
speak.
If,
if
committees
willing
to
carry
it,
do
you
still
need
to
speak?
Where
are
you
no
okay?
Thank
you.
So
does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
this
37:18
Green
Bank
Road?
What
is
it
County
then
carry?
Thank
you.
I,
remember
five.
A
We
have
Nancy
melash
with
us
who
is
here
to
speak.
If
need
be,
13:14
klondike
road
in
Kanata
north
zone,
a
bylaw
amendment.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
miss
melash?
If
were
prepared
to
carry
this?
Do
you
need
to
speak?
Okay?
Thank
you.
So
is
this
carried?
Thank
you.
Okay
number.
Six
is
in
the
council
categories.
Aliens
did
spell.
One
part
has
ordered
bylaw
amendment
prior
to
57,
86
Fernbank
Road,
and
we
do
have
someone
registered
Eric
base.
Did
you
want
to
hold
this
item?
Counselor?
No.
A
Everybody
asks
have
any
questions.
So
mr.
Eric
bays
from
Nova
Tech,
if
committees
prepared
to
carry
this
item,
do
you
still
want
to
speak?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
it
carried?
Thank
you,
okay.
So
the
next
one
is
sort
of
housekeeping
because
it
follows
up
on
what
we've
already
approved
previously.
It's
the
third
party
infrastructure
agreement
for
the
detailed
design,
tender
and
construction
of
the
300
millimeter
diameter
water.
A
A
Okay,
number:
eight,
we
are
holding
it's
the
designation
of
the
Medical
Arts
Foley
at
180
Metcalfe's
tree
in
the
part
four
on
the
Antonio
Heritage
Act,
and
we
do
have
we
do
have
mr.
Cohen.
You
want
to
speak
on
this
correct
and
they're
holding
it.
Thank
you
very
much
and
then
number
nine,
which
is
the
official
planning
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
180
Metcalf
straight,
which
ties
in
to
it's.
The
same
address
we're
holding
that
we
have
speakers
number
ten
is
delegator.
A
A
A
Presentation
on
number
11
and
12,
we
have
my
staff,
have
a
few
slides,
it's
important
information
and
tells
a
lot
about
what
we
do
so
we'll
hold
11
and
12
and
then
item
number
13
is
an
item
from
the
council.
Miss
Baum.
It's
in
his
ward
agree
to
walk
with
a
mural
at
569
guy
Street.
You
just
want
to
just
in
a
couple
of
sentences
say
while
you're
doing
this,
perhaps
I'm.
D
Sure
the
landowner
address
has
a
fence
which
faces
Rideau
high
school
and
in
the
past
it's
been
the
subject
of
tagging
and
what
he
would
like
to
do
is
engage
the
high
school
students
across
the
way
and
have
them
do
a
mule
and
a
participatory
art
project
to
dissuade
tagging,
and
we
need
an
amendment
because
normally
there's
only
does
not
permit
in
a
residential
zone,
but
because
it's
facing
that
the
school
in
this
case
I
think
it's
appropriate
and
I
support
the
application.
It.
A
Sounds
like
an
innovative
way
to
deal
with
a
situation.
This
is
item
carried
a
good
idea.
Thank
you
and
then
the
I
guess
we
have
an
IP
D
bill.
73
smart
goes
for
our
communities
at
2015.
Does
that
receive
okay?
So
if
you
have
questions,
we
can
do
one
of
two
things.
We
can
either
waive
the
rules
and
have
2/3
of
the
people,
though,
to
have
it
on
today
or
we
can
kick
it
to
the
next
committee
and
have
it
on
the
agenda.
E
A
F
Good
morning,
madam
chair
committee,
one
in
Metcalfe
Street
is
recommended
for
designation
under
part
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
which
designates
individual
properties.
It
is
a
building
designed
by
Ottawa
architect,
W
in
Afghan
and
constructed
in
1928.
It
is
in
the
Art
Deco
style,
which
was
very
popular
at
the
time
and
as
one
of
Ottawa's
only
Art
Deco
office
buildings.
It
another
interesting
fact
about
it
is
that
it
was
a
purpose-built
medical
building
at
a
time
when
these
types
of
buildings
were
becoming
popular
across
North
America
and
their
examples.
F
In
most
most
big
Canadian
cities
have
purpose-built
medical
buildings.
The
it
is
identified
as
an
Art
Deco
building
by
its
simple
decoration
and
it's
it's-
the
cornice
line,
the
decoration
here,
it's
its
entranceway
it
and
many
of
its
details.
I
the
building
also
was
the
first
first
structure
in
Ottawa
to
have
its
a
purpose-built
parking
lot.
F
It's
called
a
parking
lard,
which
was
to
the
west
of
the
building,
but
that
portion
is
not
recommended
for
designation
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
so
that's
abuse
an
office
of
that
of
the
building
and
because
of
its
architecture,
its
history,
so
CA
ssin
with
WN
off-key
its
history
as
a
medical
building,
and
it
is
recommended
for
designation
under
part
4
of
the
Act
and
meets
the
criteria
found
in
oh
nine.
Oh
six,
thank
you.
A
G
G
The
first
is
to
thank
your
staff
publicly
here
to
staff,
advise
my
client
over
a
year
ago
that
there
was
an
intention
to
designate
this
building
and
we
asked
heritage
and
planning
staff
if
they
could
work
with
us
and
if
we
could
work
with
them
with
a
view
to
bringing
forward
a
building
that
would
meet
the
intentions
of
your
official
plan,
the
senate
on
secondary
plan,
which
is
the
companion
application
next
on
your
agenda
and
that
time
was
well
spent.
We
retained
planners
heritage
experts,
rod
ly.
G
He
is
the
architect
and
have
come
up
with
a
program
that
makes
us
proud
and
that's
the
reason
that
there
is
no
objection
to
the
port
designation
of
this
important
building
downtown.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
thank
staff
when
those
are
draw
when
they
do
something
positive
and
I
think
they
have
in
this
case.
The
second
point
I
wish
to
raise
relates
to
the
proposed
new
building
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we'll
actually.
G
A
G
G
I'm
hoping
that
the
word
counselor
may
consider
doing
it,
and
that
is
there
is
a
building
proposed
to
be
constructed
to
sometime.
That
is
the
subject
of
the
next
application
and
is
the
subject
of
plans
that
were
reviewed
when
we
came
forward
with
the
Heritage
Program
and
that's
going
to
require
when
the
development
comes
forward
for
site
plan,
approval
and
application
which
have
to
alter
the
existing
building
that
we
know
we
have
to
do
it
later
and
when
I'm
hoping
committee
counselor
is
that
there
might
be
a
motion
that
was
added
to
this
report.
G
That
said
that
the
Massey
height,
setbacks
and
character
of
the
proposed
building
are,
in
principle,
acceptable
from
a
heritage
perspective.
We
don't
want
to
come
back
another
day
and
have
to
fight
the
issue
of
the
proposed
building.
That's
led
to
this
happy
marriage
today.
So,
if
you
want
the
wording
I'll
give
it.
G
A
A
A
I
A
So
on
the
designation
of
the
Medical
Arts
Building
at
180,
Metcalf
Street
under
part
four
of
the
Interior
Heritage
Act.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
comments
or
is
it
carried
and
they
can
easily
at
your
committee?
Okay,
thank
you
and
now
we're
on
to
the
official
plan
is
over
bylaw
amendment
for
180
Metcalf
Street.
H
Go
ahead.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll.
Just
give
a
my
name
is
Doug
James
at
the
playing
department.
I'll
just
give
a
brief
presentation
with
respect
to
the
proposed
development
today,
we're
through
in
relation
to
the
Official
Plan
amendment
to
rezoning
for
the
subject
property.
This
next
slide.
The
subject
property
is
outlined
by
the
black
line
in
the
light
blue,
it's
located
on
the
southwest
corner
of
Metcalf
in
the
peon
streets
and
there's
a
site,
that's
approximately
about
30
by
60,
which
is
about
1,800
square
meters
in
size.
H
It
contains
today
as
you
as
mentioned,
a
six-story
and
right
now.
It's
a
mixed-use
building
it
shoes
for
residential
office
and
medical
office
purposes
with
a
surface
parking
lot
around
the
rear
of
the
subject
property.
This
is
a
view
of
the
subject:
building
that's
on
there
now
from
Metcalf
Street
a
view
down
Nepean
of
the
side
of
the
building
as
well.
The
next
slide
shows
that
parking
area
that
is
located
to
the
rear.
It's
a
public
parking,
alot
and
parking
for
the
uses
that
are
located
on
the
subject
property
as
well.
H
This
next
slide
shows
the
proposal
the
applicant
is
proposing.
Actually,
to
keep
about
75
percent
of
the
existing
Medical
Arts
Building
here
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
property,
which,
as
you
know,
is
proposed
or
to
be
designated
heritage.
It's
a
six
story.
Addition
is
proposed
to
be
constructed
over
the
remainder
of
the
property,
where
the
surface
parking
lot
is
with
a
21
storey
tower.
H
On
top
with
a
total
of
27
stories,
the
ground
floor
is
proposed
to
have
commercial
entity
of
about
two
hundred
and
sixty
square
meters
along
the
Nepean
Street
side
in
the
existing
building
and
the
six
wrist
of
the
six
storey
podium.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
a
hotel,
a
boutique
hotel
of
140
units
above
the
podium,
the
six
storey
podium
that
in
the
tower
portion,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
a
condominiums
approximately
just
over
two
hundred
two
hundred
and
six
units.
The
zoning
on
the
subject
property
right
now.
H
It's
an
out
of
five
is
only
about
like
some
zones.
You'll
find
in
the
center
town
area
does
permit
certain
commercial
uses,
such
as
a
drugstore,
a
florist.
It's
been
around
a
while
because
well,
the
use
is
permitted
as
a
newsstand,
as
well
as
personal
service
businesses
that
are
limits,
a
beauty,
parlor
barber
and
dry,
cleaner
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
basement
of
the
existing
building
or
on
the
existing
property.
But
this
this
zoning
is
quite
unique
with
respect
to
surrounding
zones.
H
H
The
applicant
as
I
mentioned,
is
proposing
to
for
goers
to
have
a
hotel
in
the
first
six
stories
and
is
willing
to
forego
the
rights
he
has
under
the
current
zoning
of
having
the
office
in
the
medical
facility
up
to
37
meters
in
return
for
allowing
a
boutique
hotel
on
the
first
six
floors.
With
respect
to
that,
there's
a
rezoning
application
that
needs
to
be
fulfilled,
but
as
well
because
of
the
new
center
town
secondary
plan,
has
a
sort
of
a
performance
standard
in
there.
H
In
relation
to
only
allowing
commercial
uses
on
the
first
two
floors,
an
official
plan
amendment
is
needed
to
allow
a
hotel
on
the
first
six
floors.
I
should
mention
as
well.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
commercial
or
public
parking
allowed
in
instead
of
on
a
surface
lot
in
an
underground
parking
when
the
building
is
constructed.
H
Another
view
of
the
site
straight
on
looking
at
it
from
Metcalf
back
onto
the
property
I
just
want
to
mention
that,
of
course,
within
the
respective
the
Official
Plan.
It's
where
the
red
star
is
it's
just
inside
the
general
urban
area,
just
outside
the
central
area,
within
the
new
center
town,
secondary
plan,
again,
where
the
red
star
is
it's
located
in
the
northern
character
area,
which
allows
apartment
buildings
up
to
in
this
area,
its
counselors
direction
to
have
buildings
at
a
maximum
height
of
27
stories
or
83
meters,
which
is
what
the
applicant
is
proposing.
H
As
mentioned.
Basically,
field
satisfies
the
policies,
an
official
plan
related
to
intensification,
it's
in
keeping
with
the
direction
of
the
secondary
plan
and
the
community
design
plan,
except
for
the
fact
that,
a
with
respect
to
the
location
of
commercial
uses
on
the
first
two
floors,
an
amendment
is
required,
but
its
department's
position
that
it
moves
the
overall
development
closer
to
conformity,
because
you
could
have
those
commercial
users
being
a
medical
facility
in
office
up
to
30,
centimeters
or
approximately
12
stories.
H
And
we
believe
that
the
proposed
use
of
a
hotel
on
the
first
six
floors
is
more
in
keeping
with
the
four
uses
for
the
surrounding
community
respect
to
things
like
parking
traffic
generation
and
just
basically
the
infiltration
of
some
of
that
type
of
use
within
the
center
town
secondary
plan
area.
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
Madame
sure.
If
there's
any
questions.
H
H
The
decision
for
the
sacrament
plan
just
came
down
at
the
end
of
April
of
this
year
from
interim,
miss
award
I
believe
that
the
community
sign
plan
was
started
in
2008-2009
and
worked
its
way
up
to
just
recently
having
the
decision
rendered
by
the
enjoyments
award
this
year.
I
know
who
that
the
city
has
gone
to
ask
the
courts
of
Ontario
to
look
at
the
rail
ability
of
the
city
to
regulate
hype
through
policy
that
we
respect
to
the
other
components
of
the
plan.
The
decision
is
a
couple
months
over
six
weeks
for
Hugh.
H
C
B
H
Is
the
secondary
plan
yeah
now
the
secondary
plan
just
speaks
generally
to
commercial
uses,
the
type
of
commercial
it
says,
neighbourhoods
serving
commercial
uses
on
the
property,
as
opposed
to
specifically
saying
this
type
of
use.
Is
that
how
this
type
of
use
is
not
allowed?
The
the
secondary
plans
more
general
in
relation
to
uses
it
doesn't
get
into
specific
ones,.
A
D
You
Jo,
just
a
just
one
question
staff
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
which
plan
regulates
the
commercial
use
so
I'm.
Looking
at
the
secondary
plan,
which
says
non-resident
juices
are
restricted
with
the
first
two
floors
above
come
on
occupy
more
than
50%
of
its
gross
floor
area
and
mr.
James,
you
mentioned
I
guess
in
the
zoning
bylaws
something
about
up
to
12
floors
and
37
meters.
So
those
are
two
slightly
different
characterizations
or
definitions
of
what
of
what
quantifies.
D
H
Madam
chair,
the
area
of
the
hotel
use
six
floors
of
you
and
the
commercial
there's,
a
small
commercial
component
of
a
retail
or
small
restaurant
about
260
square
meters,
but
it
certainly
would
be
less
than
50%
it'd
be
more
like
a
third
or
thirty
percent
of
the
overall
floor
area.
The
entire
building,
okay,
Kosar.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
one
quick
question
for
now
and
if
you
could
please
let
me
know
how
the
city
protects.
The
integrity
of
the
Harwich
designation
on
a
building
I
assume
council
will
approve
what
we've
just
passed
here
with
respect
to
this
building
when
you
have
like
what's
being
floated
around
now,
how
does
the
city
ensure
the
integrity
of
the
building
is
not
degra
gated?
B
When
there's
this
construction
that
the
heritage
designation
is
in
fact
upheld,
can
you
explain
that
process
to
me,
I
haven't
seen
I
know
what
happens
where
buildings
get
built
like
this,
but
how
do
we
ensure
that
what
made
this
building
receive
the
heritage
designation
to
begin
with
is
not
further
compromised.
Excuse
me,
through.
F
You,
madam
chair,
the
the
designation,
consists
of
there's
a
list
of
what
we
call
heritage
attributes.
You
will
have
seen
perhaps
seen
that
in
your
report
and
it
lists
the
things
that
we
were
the
elements
that
we
referred
to
as
caricature
defining
elements.
So
when
we're
approached
or
faced
with
an
intervention
to
a
designated
building,
we
look
at
the
the
attributes
of
that
building
that
contribute
to
its
cultural
heritage.
Value
like
what
is
it
about
that
building?
That's
important
in
this
particular
instance.
F
It
is
its
its
height,
its
noting
its
architectural
style
and
its
relationship
to
a
history
of
center
town
in
Ottawa
as
a
purpose-built
medical
building.
So
then,
when
an
applicant
comes
in-
and
in
this
case
there
was
my
colleague
Leslie
Collins
worked
extensively
with
the
applicant,
ensuring
that
these
elements
that
make
the
building
important
are
not
obscured
by
the
addition
of
a
new
building,
or
you
know,
an
addition
to
the
building
and
so
that
that's
the
process
we
use
with
every
application
under
the
Act.
F
K
H
L
Madam
chair,
the
landowner
would
have
certain
rights
under
the
zoning
and
if
the
rights
to
a
hotel
or
office
were
taken
away,
those
would
that
would
be
considered
a
down
zoning.
There
is
a
higher
test
with
respect
to
removing
such
rights,
and
so
that
is
a
difficulty
that
the
city
would
be
faced
with.
Is
that
the
developer
has
rights
inherent
in
the
zoning
as
opposed
to
turning
on
the
past
community
design
plan
and
secondary
plan,
or
the
current
secondary
plan,
you.
C
You,
madam
chair
I'm,
not
sure
I
would
characterize
it
as
we
are
defending
and
Sony
so
much
as
when
a
new
application
comes
in.
It
gives
us
as
a
department
an
opportunity
to
have
a
second
look
at
what's
permitted
on
the
site,
in
this
case
a
12-story
commercial
building.
The
plan
gives
us
direction
to
move
towards
less
commercial
and
more
residential.
So
notwithstanding,
we
need
an
official
plan
amendment
here,
we're
actually
achieving
the
directional
goals
by
having
less
commercial
use
and
is
currently
permitted
as
a
right
on
this
site.
K
B
Madam
chair,
so
the
current
permissions
are
basically
twelve
stories
of
commercials.
We
see
the
amendment
as
moving
towards
meeting
the
objective
of
that
northern
character
area,
in
addition
to
preserving
significant
heritage
aspect,
so
the
department
is
with
the
direction
this
application
is
heading
and
we
see
this
again
moving
towards
conformity.
We
have
to
take
the
into
account.
B
C
C
A
E
Yes,
my
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
questions
that
councillor
McKenney
had
I
have
two
lines
in
the
staff
report.
That
I
just
want
to
ask
you
about
the
first
on
page
11,
the
new
secondary
plan
restricts
these
uses
to
the
first
two
floors,
which
is
intended
to
restrict
their
size
and
therefore
to
a
use
that
serves
mainly
the
local
community.
May
I
just
clarify
them
that
in
the
secondary
plan,
the
overall
objective
for
this
seven
character
area
is
to
have
uses
that
serve
mainly
the
local
community.
H
Madam
chair,
the
idea
is
to
have
those
types
of
uses,
and
we
did
consider
that
with
respect
to
the
hotel
use
and
also
relation
to
the
uses
that
are
allowed
there
now
being
the
medical
facility
in
particular,
and
as
mentioned
in
the
staff
report
and
with
respect
to
the
traffic,
the
appointments
becoming
going,
especially
if
it
was
say,
can
be
more
of
a
draw
from
the
wider
area
for
specialists,
but
as
well
from
a
hotel
use.
It
is
limited
to
six
stories.
It
is
more
of
a
boutique
hotel,
hotel
use.
H
We
could
also
opinion
be
viewed
as
serving
residents
of
the
local
area.
We
acknowledge
that
it
would
draw
people
from
outside,
but
when
people
come
to
visit,
Senate
own
citizens,
relatives
or
friends
could
stay
at
the
hotel
or
as
well.
It
acts
as
a
neighborhood
serving
an
ancillary
function,
thereby
bringing
people
into
the
area
who
will
also
support
other
commercial
uses
such
as
restaurants
and
retail,
that
exists
in
the
area
all
in
all,
to
make
it
a
more
vibrant
community
sure.
E
I
buy
that
on
page
12.
Conversely,
it
can
be
argued
that
the
proposed
hotel
is
a
quasi
residential
use
compared
to
the
previous
e
says
in
new,
you
make
some
specific
comparisons
to
the
medical
facility,
intuitively
I
guess
it
strikes
me
that
a
hotel
is
I.
Don't
have
a
concierge
in
my
house,
for
example,
or
fresh
linen
deliveries,
etcetera.
Did
you
base
it
on
any
studies,
comparing
the
types
and
volumes
of
traffic
between
a
medical
arts
facility
and
a
hotel?
It.
H
H
But
if
they
come
by
car,
they
could
park
their
car
for
the
weekend
and
then
use
alternative
modes
of
transportation
to
get
around
downtown,
as
opposed
to
we
find
and
my
work
with
the
Civic
Hospital
that
most
people
arrive
by
private
vehicle
to
come
for
doctor's
appointments
as
compared
to
other
forms
of
transportation.
So,
based
on
previous
history,
it's
the
department,
the
uses
in
general,
its
department's
opinion
that
it
would
be
less
of
a
disruption
with
respect
to
traffic
and
parking
with
the
surrounding
area
of
the
hotel.
Being
that
as
compared
to
the
other
uses.
E
A
C
I'm,
madam
chair,
through,
if
I,
could
add
councillor
Lieber,
it's
been
long
established
that
hotel
uses
in
particular
boutique
hotel
uses,
are
generally
quasi
residential
in
nature.
For
two
main
reasons.
One
is
that
there's
an
overnight
stay,
unlike
other
commercial
uses
like
an
office
use
or
retail
use.
So
there
are
people
staying
in
the
building
overnight.
Second
generally,
with
the
smaller
hotels
that
aren't
convention
oriented,
for
example,
the
users
of
that
hotel,
the
patrons
take
advantage
or
use
the
local
commercial
services
they
go
to
local
coffee
shops
and
restaurants,
etc.
C
I
I
do
not
have
a
car
I
live
in
central
town
and
I
walk
around
I'm
quite
familiar
with
the
Main
Street
construction
going
on
because
I
work
over
there,
Center
town
and
the
market
area,
I'm
opposed
to
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
for
several
reasons:
ascetic,
social
and
environmental.
So
I'll
discuss
each
in
turn.
First,
it's
very
difficult
to
integrate
a
heritage
building
with
the
new
contemporary
design.
I
I
On
Metcalf
Street,
as
it
is
kind
of,
gives
the
eye
a
break
right
now,
a
cap
street
and
it's
really
kind
of
unpleasant
when
moonwalks
living
spaces
are
created,
enjoy
beautiful
architecture
and
certainly
high-rises
can
be
beautiful
and
showing
a
very
beautiful
from
an
airplane.
But
when
one
is
walking
down,
the
street
high-rises
do
not
have
much
aesthetic
appeal,
in
fact
they
create
and
they
are
kind
of
alienating.
I
I
Many
individuals
kind
of
wandering
around
it's
a
risky
place
at
night
now,
and
it's
rather
because
it's
a
barren
landscape
and
there's
a
lack
of
hospital
environments.
Their
high-rises
simply
add
to
the
fact
that
people
just
want
to
get
home
and
not
wander
around
or
take
strolls,
so
they
take
a
cab
or
whatever
they
go
to
their
bar
and
they
they
come
home.
I
feel
the
state
of
affairs
will
infect
Metcalf
Street.
It
will
become
even
more
unpleasant
to
walk
around
at
night.
I
The
street
will
be
deserted,
as
everyone
will
simply
want
to
hide
in
their
hotel
or
condo.
So
this
proposal
does
not
support
the
sixth
principle
of
the
secondary
plan,
which
is
to
encourage
walking.
In
addition,
the
plan
seeks
to
accommodate
the
diverse
population
again
I,
say
credo,
Street,
certainly,
there's
diversity
around
your
meto
Center,
however
class
individuals
seek
to
avoid
the
poor
ones
in
order
to
have
groups
of
individuals
intermingle
through
training
and
not
in
any
fearful
way.
There
needs
to
be
a
space
that
is
created
to
accommodate
these
diverse
population
and
eyesight.
I
The
jack
Versailles
community
center,
as
a
very
welcoming
and
diverse
environment
and
I,
realize
it's
kind
of
different,
but
it
accommodates
people
of
all
classes
of
our
abilities,
and
it's
really
a
welcoming
environment,
condos
and
towers,
as
other
propose,
seek
to
fulfill
the
usual
material
needs
and
expectations
of
a
world
middle
class.
And
so
it's
difficult
to
see
how
the
objective
of
diversity
can
be
mapped
with
a
proposal
that
seeks
commercial
for
the
formative
and
homogeneity,
even
if
it
claims
that
it
will
attend
to
diversity.
I
I
To
accommodate
the
public
realm
is
also
not
well
served
unless
one
interprets
the
public
Brown
as
either
shopping
or
instantaneous
use
or
hotel
hopping.
In
order
to
create
urban
spaces
where
people
mingle
enjoy
life
inside
and
outside
buildings,
careful
thought
must
be
put
forward.
Imagination
has
to
be
used.
Unfortunately,
the
proposal
doesn't
matter
the
fourth
principle
to
reinforce
and
promote
commercial
activity,
while
this
site
will
indeed
promote
commercial
activity
as
Kenter
and
so
on.
A
A
N
N
N
A
B
N
Think
you
should
stick
with
that
and
the
density
of
actual
residents
in
that
area,
which
is
what
we
want,
which
is
going
to
support
commercial,
the
survey's
across
the
street,
the
restaurants
and
Somerset
and
Elvin
have
more
people
actually
living
you're,
the
most
street
vibrancy.
That's
what
we're
looking
for,
but.
B
B
B
A
L
I
do
madam
chair.
The
issue
here
is
not
one
of
legal
non-conforming
rights
because
it
isn't
a
hotel
or
a
12-story
office
building
on
the
site.
The
issue
is
one
of
what
is
permitted
under
the
zoning,
which
is
a
12-story
office
and
medical
office
building
with
some
Myer
and
sort
of
uses
associated
with
it,
and
the
balancing
that
I
understand
has
taken
place.
L
It's
the
staff
have
looked
at
that
and
have
taken
a
recount
the
fact
that
those
twelve
stories
of
office
are
permitted
that
if
one
were
to
seek
to
move
that
notwithstanding
what
the
CDP
and
official
plans
say,
one
has
to
pass
the
test
of
a
down
zoning,
which
is
that
the
public
benefit
outweighs
a
private
loss.
That
is
not
an
easy
case
to
make
in
front
of
antara
misreport
and
taking
that
into
account,
as
well
as
the
other
rationale
mister
Mitzi
outlined
to
committee.
D
Understanding
since
remote
said,
the
zoning
permits
a
12-story
office
use,
the
secondary
plan
is
very
clear
that
non-residential
uses
are
restricted
to
the
first
two
floors
of
a
building.
So
it's
structure
that
we
have
a
conflict
here
right.
We
have
the
zoning
that
permits
this.
The
secondary
plan
is
treated
like
the
Official
Plan,
so
we
haven't.
We
have
an
official
plan
statement
that
non-resident
uses
should
only
be
permitted
in
the
first
two
storeys.
D
L
Madam
chair,
what
the
rights
of
a
land
owner
to
build
our
govern
by
our
is
the
zoning
in
place,
and
so
the
Official
Plan
is
a
statement
of
what
the
zoning
is
to
be.
But
the
ability
to
a
building
permit
is
in
fact
govern
just
by
the
zoning,
and
so,
as
mr.
James
indicated
earlier
this
morning,
provided
that
they
couldn't
he'd
meet
the
setback
rules
they
all
they
would
need
is
a
site
plan,
which
is
something
that
one
gets
as
of
right
and
they
could
build
a
12-story
office
building.
L
L
B
L
Madam
chair
generally,
that
would
be
the
case.
There
are,
in
fact
the
city
specifically
decided
not
to
do
that
with
the
center
town
area
because
of
the
eclectic
nature
of
center
town.
This
was
actually
an
issue
in
the
hearing
and
that,
in
order
to
ensure
that
development
is
a
proposed,
development
is
compatible
with
its
existing
neighbors.
The
policy
decision
that
was
made
by
counsel
on
the
basis
of
staff
advice
is
that
zoning
would
be
done
on
the
site
by
site
basis
and.
B
L
K
K
L
Committees
well
aware,
madam
chair,
each
joining
application
would
be
judged
on
its
own
merits.
Part
of
the
background
on
this
is
what
would
what
was
the
height
and
existing
permissions
for
this
site?
If
there
were
a
site
that
had
those
existing
same
existing
historical
permissions
one,
it
is
at
least
possible
that
a
future
applicant
might
make
the
same
argument.
But
again
it
is
dependent
on
the
permissions
that
are
in
place
on
that
site
today
and
that's.
A
A
G
A
A
J
J
Foton
understands
that
the
council
in
the
community
have
a
great
interest
in
respecting
the
recently
approved
secondary
plan.
However,
there's
important
considerations
that
we'd,
like
the
committee
to
be
reminded
of
the
first,
is
that,
in
my
experience,
secondary
plans
do
not
always
look
at
the
very
conditions
on
specific
sites
when
establishing
policies
related
to
uses
and
building
Heights.
J
Botha
work
together
to
reduce
the
requested
range
of
uses
such
that
office
and
medical
office
uses
will
no
longer
be
permitted
and
the
hotel
use
will
be
amended
to
the
first
six
floors.
I
would
submit
to
you
that
had
this
process
Banette
able
to
unfold
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
secondary
plan,
the
planning
staff
would
have
been
before
you
recommending
that
on
this
site.
For
the
same
specific
reasons,
hotel
use
within
this
portion
of
the
building
would
be
appropriate
and
probably
would
have
been
adopted
in
that
secondary
plan.
O
First
I'd
like
to
thank
staff.
It's
been
a
great
we've,
been
working
now
for
close
to
two
years
on
this
project,
bringing
it
forward
I
say
as
a
student
in
architecture
in
the
mid
seventies,
walking
by
this
building,
I
recognized
this
heritage
value,
and
it
was
quite
an
honor
for
me
to
be
asked
by
mr.
Toth
two
years
ago
actually
to
work
on
this
project,
so
realizing
that,
with
some
of
the
success
really
and
some
of
the
failures
with
the
Heritage
integration,
we
set
up
a
working
with
staff
very
quickly
and
and
I
think.
O
This
slide
probably
tells
the
best
story.
The
idea
right
from
the
was
to
allow
as
much
of
this
building
to
exist
so
that
we
didn't
have
what's
considered
the
facade
of
an
old
facade
pasted
on
this
building.
The
fact
we've
we've
purposely
looked
at
keeping
the
entire
volume
of
the
building
on
Metcalf
Street
in
place,
and
only
demolishing
a
small
portion
of
the
building
that
faces
the
peon
but
keeping
the
entire
facade
along
the
p.m.
Street.
And
it's
very
important
to
do
that.
To
keep
the
the
width
of
the
PIA
Metcalf
Street
in
place.
O
Keep
the
whole
heritage
building
in
place
and
basically
work
together
for
a
successful
project
building
as
you've
seen
it's
important
to
take
a
look
at
the
overall
massing
on
the
stage
you
can
see
here
where
this
area's
not
looking
down
the
entire
building,
has
been
pushed
back
of
the
facade
and
on
the
looking
north
of
Nepean
street.
Again,
the
entire
facade
is
in
entire
building
reads
in
its
entirety,
so
from
a
street
level
the
building
will
read
as
at
least
today.
Only
the
difference
is
we've.
O
A
O
H
A
It
well
is,
is
it
well
I
would
think
of
its
values.
I
noticed
somebody
this
morning
whipping
people
into
the
new,
the
new
building,
where
so,
visas
yeah,
because
I'm
sure
I
turn
when
they
bring
the
car
down.
They
turn
onto
Nepean,
so
well,
yeah
just
interesting.
For
that
moment,
surface
parking
is
taking,
especially
with
the
decision
on
the
corner
with
the
rights
taken
away.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Anybody
have
any
other
questions
of
mr.
Cohen
or
mr.
Casper
near
mr.
Lane.
B
A
P
Good
morning
join
everyone.
You
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
you
on
our
planning
issue
that
is
fundamental
to
the
community
of
center
town
and
you've,
already
heard
from
others
who
has
spoken
to
the
some
of
the
more
general
planning
issues.
My
interest
is
primarily
with
out
of
parking
notwithstanding
that
I
do
have
other
concerns,
but
I
will
confine.
P
The
applicant
wants
to
reduce
the
requirement
by
25%
from
206
bases
250,
for
the
supporting
argument
is
this
over
the
past
seven
years.
The
suggestion
is
that
residents
and
users
are
proper
at
this
property
part
of
the
changing
demographic,
but
the
mobility
patterns
are
different.
The
needs
are
different,
but
the
development
will
cater
to
a
diverse
mix
of
market
segments.
P
The
broader
parking
issue
await
the
outcome
of
the
study
that
you
have
authorized
and
to
support
this
position.
You
only
need
address
the
question
of
whether
the
staff
record
in
the
plans
irrational
presented
a
convincing
argument
that
there
is
adequate
parking
in
this
area.
Is
there
a
factual
basis
to
conclude.
A
C
A
A
D
A
quick
question:
if
one
can
speak
of
nine
at
time
lapse
between
the
period
in
which
a
CDP
or
a
secondary
plan
is
finalized,
and
then
the
relevant
zoning
is
amended
to
conform
to
the
secondary
plan
in
the
CDP.
Is
there
is
there
a
typical
do?
We
have
to
always
expect
a
certain
lapse
because
of
other
requirements.
B
3,
madam
chair
mr.
mark
indicated
in
this
case
there
is
no
intention
to
follow
up
or
the
widespread
update
of
the
zoning
for
a
number
of
reasons.
I
won't
get
into
section
37
being
one
of
them,
but
it
is
one
of
them,
so
each
CDP
is
different.
Some
plan
and
end
zone
could
be
done
at
the
same
time
if
it's
a
small
compact
kind
of
scenario,
but
in
this
case
the
decision
was
made
not
to
update
that
zoning
and
follow
and
just
might
provide
some
small
comfort.
B
D
We
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
making
sure
that
the
public
understands
that
when
a
CDP
is
approved
and
when
a
secondary
plan
is
approved,
it
essentially
is
meaning
from
the
vantage
point
of
Zoning
rights
until
such
time
as
the
zoning
rules
are
amended
and
I.
Think
we
clearly
from
the
comments
from
the
community
have
a
communications
issue
in
that
the
public
and
I
have
to
admit.
D
I
didn't
understand
that
in
those
cases
there
is
a
Nazarite
ability,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
be
applications
personally,
but
I
do
hope
that
one
of
the
takeaways
is
we
either
in
the
communication
or
in
the
way
that
were
negotiating
CDP's,
make
it
clear
to
the
public
about
what
it
is
and
what
it
isn't.
Thank
you
Thank.
E
Working
to
the
community
design
plans
that
were
putting
so
much
work
into
are
intended
to
guide
the
development
of
communities
in
transition
to
guide
the
intensification
that,
if
pursued
thoughtlessly,
have
the
potential
to
seriously
impact
people's
quality
of
life,
and
in
this
case
the
secondary
plan
tells
us
that
the
southern
character,
southern
character
neighborhood,
is
intended
to
have
commercial
that
serves
primarily
community
with
commercial
jets
of
the
first
two
floors.
I
think
that's
important
I
mean
the
the
fact
that
hotels
are
not
contemplated
in
this
neighborhood
is
telling
to
me.
E
The
comparison
I
make
between
this
proposal
is
with
my
favorite
hotel
I
used
to
travel
before
the
residents
Akershus.
It
be
shackled
me
to
the
road,
the
stories,
the
old
police
department
in
Back
Bay,
fantastic
hotel.
If
you
are
down
there
this
summer-
and
it
is
a
hub
of
activity
24/7,
it
is
taxicabs
caterers,
flower
deliveries,
its
private
vehicles
of
our
sort,
not
just
a
quasi
residential
used.
It
is,
it
is
a
particular
form
of
vehicular
traffic
and
an
activity.
E
Disagree
that
with
mr.
Mitzi
that
you
know
the
primary
importance
here
is
I.
Think
we
do
a
lot
of
discussion
about
permitted
uses
when
we're
doing
CBP's
and
secondary
plans.
Community
use
is
just
as
important
in
my
mind
as
as
the
building
envelope
itself
was
coming
forward
with
a
proposal
to
put
in
place.
H
Relation
to
their
councillors
comments
and
those
are
comments
that
actually
went
into
the
into
the
staff
report.
There's
certainly
there
will
be
another
application
coming
forward
and
that
will
be
site
plan.
It
is
true
that
they
weren't
subject
to
section
37,
but
through
the
site
plan
control
process,
those
things
that
were
mentioned
with
respect
to
affordable
housing,
agreeing
the
community.
They
can
be
discussed
through
that
process
and
hopefully
through
that
gives
something
in
your
as
in
the
councillors,
words
back
to
the
community
and
we're
certainly
willing
to
work
with
the
developer
on
that
and.
A
H
I'm
sure
it's
not
a
rationale:
it's
a
calculation
based
upon
the
envelope
of
the
existing
zoning
and
what
could
be
built
under
the
existing
zoning
compared
to
what
they
are
proposing
to
build
here
one,
the
subject:
the
government
has
to
be
over
7,000
square
meters,
which
of
course
it
is,
but
it
also
has
to
be
25%
larger
than
the
development
that
could
be
built
technically
under
the
current
zoning.
It's
close,
but
it's
it's
not
there.
Yet
it's
probably
a
function,
basically
of
the
lot
size
being
30
by
60.
It's
probably
the
smallest
lock.
H
You
could
get
without
that
being
being
subject
to
section
37.
Also
the
floor.
Plate
of
the
tower
is
is
anticipated
about
750
square
meters,
it's
about
723,
so
it's
all
it'd
just
be
under
that
25
percent.
But,
as
I
mentioned
through
the
site
plan,
we
can
see
about
getting
some
conditions
in
there
to
be
registered
on
title.
That
would,
as
I
say,
give
back
to
the
community.
K
K
K
Yeah,
so
just
do
it
to
wrap
up
then
I
do
want
to
say
that
this
really
is
about
the
integrity
of
our
community
design
plan.
The
purpose
of
it
is
to
provide
clarity,
consistency,
predictability
to
planning
and
building
all
of
our
neighborhoods,
that
has
a
community
design
plan
and
what
we
were
doing
previous
to
this.
K
Trying
to
defend
30-year
old
plans
and
they
became
indefensible
because
they
had
been
compromised
for
years.
So
there
was
nothing
that
that
the
community
there
was
nothing
that
that
committee
and
council
could
do
because
they
had
been
compromised
over
and
over
and
over
and
design
plans.
What
the
community
gets
them
is
a
defensible
plan,
and
this
is
the
first
real
test
of
this
CDP
and
this
application
makes
no
attempt
to
conform
to
the
CDP.
K
It
is
a
hotel
use,
it's
not
an
allowable
use,
it's
it's
specifically
put
into
the
southern
character
area
and
not
into
the
northern
character
area.
So
we,
you
know,
we
we
are
being
asked
again
to
to
you
know,
compromise
a
design
plan,
compromise,
a
secondary
plan
and
a
plan
that
the
community
work
years
to
come
up
with.
K
Because
of
you
know,
because,
because
we're
looking
back
at
joining
so
you
know
the
application
does
meet
the
50%
requirement.
But
you
know
hotel
using
for
six
floors
is,
is
in
violation
of
the
policies
of
the
secondary
plan.
Hotel
use
is
disruptive
to
a
neighborhood,
as
cancer
repair
mentioned
you
have.
K
K
K
A
Thank
you.
I
just
made
a
question
based
on
what
you're
saying
about
the
hotel
you.
So
if
the
Central
Library
was
to
move
from
one
block
up,
Metcalf
and
Laurier,
and
that
was
to
be
demolished,
would
that
be
a
place
where
the
community
design
plan
would
say
that
this
hotel
use
could
be
built
accommodated.
H
A
It's
only
one
walk-up
on
the
same
street
across
from
a
Gucci,
couch
albinism,
and
you
know
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
were
again.
You
go
back
to
what
you
said
in
your
stick
and
chill,
with
the
only
cases
that
case
basis,
so
you
you
know
and
I
would
say
that
you
know
I,
don't
know,
but
I,
don't
think
that
you're
getting
the
kind
of
problems
and
that
you're
talking
about
from
that
place
is
it's
a
higher
end
product?
Okay,
thank
you.
It's
tells
our
tyranny.
I
guess
Costantini.
B
It's
a
small
city
will
not
buy
town
on
the
logging
town
anymore.
We
have
a
lot
of
big
things
coming
up
in
2017,
we
got
light
rail
coming.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
and
I'm
hoping
out
of
the
colleagues
around
the
table.
Do
support
this
application
and
frankly,
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
this
I
think
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
our
city.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
B
A
Channing,
yes,
I
myself,
yes,
that's
8
to
2!
Thank
you
very
much
everywhere.
There
was
a
very
good
discussion
and
thank
you.
Everyone
who
came
out
today
thank
Spencer
McKinney,
ok,
so
when
they
chew
our
last
two
presentations
and
they're
only
about
three
slides
each
but
as
I
said
it's
important,
so
I
stopped
to
come
forage
on
the
2014
planning
and
growth
management
department
year
and
report,
which
is
being
asked
to
receive
this.
But
you
know,
certainly,
if
you
have
any
questions,
this
would
be
a
good
time
to
ask
to
watch.
You
make
comments.
C
C
C
C
The
interesting
development
hotspots
map
on
the
screen
demonstrates
some
of
the
different
infographics
and
mapping
techniques.
Our
business
services
branch
now
uses
in
2014.
We
received
488
planning
applications
which
will
soon
translate
into
all
types
of
new
housing
and
commercial
and
institutional
uses
across
the
city,
and
with
that
I
will
stop
here
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
Peggy
and
I
would
be
pleased
to
answer
them.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
any
questions
on
the
2014
planning,
a
growth
management
department,
a
port,
some
good
statistics
there.
Thank
you
so
go
on
now
to
the
2015
annual
development
report.
A
N
N
Remote
control
switch
Duncan.
Sorry,
the
annual
devote
report
monitor
is
a
range
of
demographic,
housing
and
economic
variables,
including
several
key
aspects
of
the
Official
Plan
2014
data
show
important
trends
that
support
growth
management
policies
in
official
plan
and
our
weekly
cover
how
projections
have
been
tracking
housing,
market
trends
and
intensification
rate.
N
So
first
population
is
tracking,
very
close
to
official
plan
projections
in
the
summer
of
2014.
We
estimated
that
about
nine
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
persons,
and
we
projected
that
the
summer
of
2014
would
have
about
nine
hundred
fifty-five
thousand
persons.
That's
about
a
difference
of
1.1
percent,
and
you
can
see
you
know
in
the
past
few
years
that
the
LP
and
the
population
estimates
have
been
tracking
fairly
close
in
the
report.
N
There's
another
2014
population
population
number
of
950
1,000
just
to
clarify
that
is
for
the
end
of
2014,
so
945
thousand
at
July,
1st
2014
and
951
thousand
at
the
summer,
31st
204
2014
for
housing
market
trends.
We
see
that
apartments
continue
to
constitute
the
largest
largest
proportion
of
units
and
civil
detached
continued
to
make
up
a
somewhat
smaller
proportion.
2014
we
saw
both
29
percent
of
all
new
units
were
civil
attached
and
the
state
6%
were
province,
30
percent
or
town
houses
and
almost
5%
were
semi-detached.
N
So
in
summary,
we've
seen
that
truck
the
population
is
tracking
close
to
fishel
client
projections.
Apartments
continue
to
have
the
highest
share
of
gain
units
that
we
will
likely
exceed
the
current
five
year.
Inspiration
target
and
the
Opie
continues
to
have
success
and
concentrating
noontime
speaking.
Intensification
units
within
target
areas
now
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Thank.
E
You
very
much
very
briefly:
there
was
a
community
association
president
absolutely
relied
on
this
report
to
understand
how
an
official
plan
was
working
and
congratulations
on
getting
it
out
again
this
year.
It
is,
it
is
a
great
report.
We've
had
a
couple
of
discussions
and
I
was
hoping
we
could
just
have.
Maybe
a
brief
discussion
around
table.
A
N
E
I
just
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
record
than
anything
else
table
27
on
the
distribution
of
again
from
the
2013
report
on
the
distribution
of
affordable
housing
units.
My
reward
has
disappeared
from
this
year's
report.
Can
you
just
provide
us
some
color
and
that
we
might
need
to
do
in
order
to
get
those
data
points
back?
Certainly.
N
N
For
the
completion
of
those
units,
that
survey
has
now
become
a
voluntary
survey
and,
as
such
to
sample
has
decreased
to
a
point
where
a
word,
if
you
look
at
a
housing
that
the
fuli's
percentile
or
lower
and
we
get
back
from
them-
is
not
the
data
suppressed.
So
we
are
not
able
to
track
that,
and
that
is
such
a
key
piece
to
the
non
market
housing
section
and
if
and
they
report
that
without
that
the
housing
section
virtually
falls
off.
N
It
just
has
a
report
so
because
of
that
missing
information,
a
lot
of
the
other
track
in
terms
of
a
four
thousand
through
resells
rental,
and
then
that
non
market
housing
section,
which
is
the
table
that
was
referenced
in
table
27.
We
thought
that
would
come
off
because
we're
not
able
to
provide
a
complete
picture.
N
A
A
D
Super
quick
question
here,
just
wondering
if
you
look
at
population
growth
out
to
20
31,
which
I
think
you
did
in
the
official
planet
couldn't
exactly
find
it
in
here
roughly.
What
is
the
percentage
of
the
population
growth
which
is
current,
which
is
occurring
inside
versus
outside
the
green
belt?
Is
a
33
to
66,
roughly
inside
out
I'm
just
trying
I
looked
at
the
past
numbers,
but
I
didn't
see
the
projections
for
how
population
growth
is
going
to
occur
in
the
city
out
to
2030
one,
a.
N
3
mm
show
the
population
projections
inside
being
bailed
out.
Sudden
green
belts
are
in
the
official
self-sow,
provide
the
number
people
inside
outside
to
be
in
balance
minute
households
with
an
official
plan.
So
this
document
is
in
reference
that
specific
figure
in
official
plan,
but
it's
week
with
an
official
plan.
D
B
I'm,
looking
at
the
slide
on
document,
one
annual
development
report
and
it's
an
infographic
called
housing
starts
and
his
showing
starts
by
circles,
basically
indicating
size,
not
just
water,
but
their
surrounding
region.
Are
we
at
all
concerned
about
the
growth
that's
taking
place
in
Rockland
and
emblem
can
Ville
run
through
arm
prior
and
the
pressures
it
will
put
on
our
infrastructure?
N
A
I'm,
the
appointment
win
yeah,
absolutely
for
those
of
you
that
weren't
in
the
room,
those
of
us
talking
about
it,
do
know
what
we're
talking
about
is
that
it
and
everybody?
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
here
today.
So
as
the
2014
annual
development
report
received,
and
they
did,
I
did
ask
you
to
receive
the
2014
planning
growth
management,
department,
yeah
and
report
already
a
received
if
I
didn't.
Let's
receive
it
again.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
you're,
remembering
that
the
IPD
will
be
on
the
next
agenda.
A
C
A
E
House,
don't
receive
any
significant
alterations
on
the
traditional
Main
Street.
A
broadcasting
studio
is
not
a
permitted
use
currently
on
the
traditional
Main
Street,
but
we
feel
strongly
that
the
proponent,
in
this
case
is,
is
getting
caught
by
a
definition
of
broadcasting
studio
that
we
don't
necessarily
intend
they're
not
working
at
putting
an
antenna
on
top
of
the
place.
They
would
have
a
booth
and
then
the
signals
would
go
to
they're
transmitting
facility
via
fiber
optics.
E
A
We
don't
have
anything
on
that
at
all,
and
but
we
do
on
on
the
20
beers
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
a
beer
place
can
brew,
distribute
bridgehead
but
also
yeah
on
Preston
etc,
but
a
guy
making
popcorn
and
has
had
a
business
for
a
long
time
cannot
so
popcorn
and
other
local
silica.
You
know
farm
boy
has
their
products
that
they
are
all
local
from
the
front
of
the
store
and
distribute
his
popcorn
that
he
makes
in
the
back
from
the
back.
A
A
I
know
it's
too
deep
for
everybody.
That's
why
we
are
constantly
trying
to
dig
ourselves
out
of
it.
I'd
like
that
kind
of
information,
though,
if
you
were
asking
for
information,
so
we
there's
mislead
is
going
to
tell
you
okay,
so
we
don't
need
it
today.
I'm
surprised,
you
don't
know,
you
know
about
the
popcorn,
but
we've
got
a
Sagar
to
Talent
I,
understand.