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Planning Committee meeting – July 10, 2018 – Audio Stream
A
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
1,
2,
3,
6,
9,
10,
11
and
12
on
today's
agenda.
So
the
items
just
mentioned
only
those
who
make
all
submission
today
all
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
a
Pho
Buena.
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
150
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
voting
and
210
days
for
an
official
plan.
A
Amendment
common
sheet
is
right
over
there
from
to
that.
Tv
sets
for
anyone
wishing
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments.
So
this
is
a
busy
agenda.
Everybody
and
I'd
like
to
note
to
the
committee
members
that
it
was
a
reminder
if
you
have
any
motions
other
than
the
ones
we
already
have
before
us
today.
A
A
A
On
the
on
the
Rideau
high
school
Lemuria
real
high
school,
a
lot
sorry
zoning
bylaw
amendment
Sheila-
are
you
here,
she'll
hear
yet
no
say
enough
to
have
it
in
her
I
know
she
is
that
she
has
a
right
to
speak
to
Helen
Calle
and
are
you
opposed
sure,
in
favor,
in
favor?
Okay,
thank
you.
Well,
do
you
need
to
speak
to
us
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
item?
A
No,
you
don't
get
another
chance,
so
I'm
asking
you
in
trying
to
say
sometimes
the
local,
the
counselor
for
the
counselors
for
the
area
are
just
wondering
whether
we
need
to
hold
it.
It's
a
good
news
story
make
the
appointing
of
speaking
so
you
happy.
If
we
just
carry
it,
we
have
the
Sheila's
comments
already
it's.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
wait
to
share
that's
right,
but
she
is
coming
here.
She
has
the
right
to
speak.
Sorry,
but
thank
you
for
joining
the
movement
along
okay.
A
A
Thank
you
paying
them
before
is
a
revised
construction
cost,
but
have
done
any
agreement
for
the
design
and
construction
of
the
Google
enforce
trade
I
have
know
if
they
do
a
kml
development
records.
Those
wishing
to
speak,
nobody
signed
up
as
anybody
from
KN
out
here
wishing
to
speak.
Are
you
wishing
to
speak?
If
it's
carried
your
ability
to
speak?
Does
anyone
have
any
questions.
A
B
A
So
just
changing
the
name
to
the
to
Richard
sermon
is
that
either
is
the
technical
amendment
carried
and
if
the
item
carried
as
amended.
Thank
you.
So
next
item
is
another
and
welcomed
diamond.
Well,
I'm,
welcoming
it
anyways
it's
in
bar
Haven
that
they
want
to
build
it
diamond
storage
at
one
thousand
McGarry
Terrace.
We
have
it's
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
counselor
vice-chair
attorney.
You
have
a
motion
to
amend
document.
Yes,.
B
Thank
you.
Madam
chair,
therefore
be
resolved.
That
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
the
following
changes
be
made
to
document
you,
details
of
the
recommended
zoning
that
the
text
reduce
their
character.
Parking
ratios
for
retail
22.7
spaces
for
every
100
square
meters
be
replaced
with
the
text
required
parking
for
all
other
uses
within
the
building.
Continuing
aware
is
limited
to
self
storage
facility
is
24
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
subsection
3617
of
the
plan.
A
They
will
have
any
questions
on
the
tech
develop
amendment.
It's
it's
providing
a
fixed
vehicle
parity
number.
That's
what
all
that
said.
So
we
have
in
the
audience.
We
have
bliss
Edwards,
that's
how
you
live
there.
You
are
and
Paul
block.
Okay,
do
you
need
to
speak
if
they're
prepared
to
carry
this
item?
Don't
because
they
don't
carry
as
no
is
the
motion.
The
technical
motion
is
that
the
amendment
is
back'
and
then
is
the
item
carried
as
amended
fake.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
trait
I.
Remember,
seven
is
2015
annual
report
and
we're
having
a
presentation
on
that.
So
therefore
that
item
and
then
number
eight
is
the
Riverside
south
community
design
plan.
We
don't
have
any
speakers
we're
not
having
a
presentation.
This
is
really
reacting
to
the
extension
of
the
trillion
worn
into
riverside
sites
and
the
removal
while
they
planned
Park
and
Ride
and
work
that
needed
to
be
addressed
for
the
large
district
park.
Anybody
have
any
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
The
number
nine
is
sony
bylaw
amendment
280
Hertzberg
road
again
and
kanata
north.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
in
the
audience
Marie
charity
case
I'm
Marie
and
whether
he
do
either
you
need
to
speak
about
prepare
to
carry
the
amendment
and
the
item:
don't
okay,
so
is
the
emotion
from
the
kilcher
cadbury
is
that
carrying
and
the
item
as
amended?
Thank
you
thanks
for
coming
out
today
and
number
10.
Is
zoning
bylaw
amendment
3,500
Hawthorn
Road?
This
is
for
a
second
cup
I.
Think
with
drive-thru
we
have
somebody
speaking
in
opposition,
Jared,
Cook,
Jared
cook
him.
A
Okay,
I'll
call
him
again,
but
we'll
hold
it
and
remind
me
to
our
comeback.
You
keep
checking
and
Nancy
you're.
Here
you
have
to
just
wait:
I'll
I'll,
give
it
till
after
the
900,
our
Albert
and
then
I'll
do
a
call
it
again
and
he's
not.
There
way
we'll
deal
with
that.
Okay,
then,
the
next
one
is
zoning,
bylaw
amendment
54:41,
5465,
5505
and
55
71.
A
C
A
A
A
Okay,
so
then
we
then
be
waiting
also
the
thing
for
Responsive,
buyer
and
the
buyer,
so
you
can
stay
here
or
come
back.
They'll
call
you
if
you'd
like
you,
have
that
option,
no
I'm,
not
letting
the
lastest
question.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
suggestion.
However,
if
it
had
been
a
simple
one,
that's
why
I
asked
him,
but
it's
not
okay,
and
then
we
have
a
councillor
Manette
item,
which
is
temporary
car
shelters
in
residential
zones.
A
Okay,
I
just
was
I'm,
seeing
whether
I
could
get
rid
of
the
one
in
front
of
that.
That
was
the
with
regard
for
zoning
of
bars
and
restaurants,
but
they
have
to
ensure
you
won't
ask
questions
about.
That's
why
it's
bad,
alright!
So
on
this
tip,
okay,
later
after
how
about
one
two,
then
all
right?
Okay,
so
then
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
beginning,
and
just
at
this
point.
B
B
A
A
A
A
First
of
all,
so
I'm
asking
for
a
motion
to
put
it
on
the
floor,
move
by
Kelsey
blade
just
below
the
floor.
This
would
be.
Do
we
have
two
thirds
of
the
vote
and
the
other
the
never
recorded
vote
on
this
one
side
on
okay.
So
this
is
whether
or
not
we're
putting
business
on
the
floor
of
planning
committee.
A
A
B
Chair
I
will
I'm
asking
you
add
the
probe,
a
way
of
development
charges
and
their
payment
to
extend
water
services
to
five
two
to
five
and
five
three:
seven
one
boundary
road.
This
is
an
industrial
industrial
subdivision
in
Carlsbad,
Springs
City
Council
approved
the
essential
water
services
as
part
of
an
official
point
amendment
in
2015,
and
we
have
an
application
to
build
a
1
million
square
foot
fulfillment
center
by
Amazon
at
this
site
in
this
was
the
sea
of
Auditors
ability
to
attract
Amazon,
and
that's
why
we'd
like
to
discuss
it
at
planning
community.
A
Okay,
so
that's
that's
what
the
item
is
so
on
the
motion
to
add
it
to
the
agenda
today:
does
everybody's
related,
okay,
so
yeas
and
nays,
please,
council,
grey
council
Brockington
is
I
shouldn't
mention
that
media
is
a
way
cause
usually
I,
don't
know
where
he
is
counselor.
Tj.
Yes,
because
we're
here
we
can
see
anything,
no
counselor,
this
one,
no
counselor
Kadri
this
vice
chair,
Channing
they
Seth.
Yes,
that
satisfies
the
satisfies
the
requirement.
Mr.
mark.
A
A
Whatever
you
against
us,
but
I,
do
want
to
go
back
to
this.
The
item
for
Ledo
High
School
on
salawah
8:15,
San,
Juan,
Boulevard
I,
had
already
asked
Sheila
you're
here
now,
where
I
am
a
arts
and
you've
signed
up
to
speak
on
on
the
hub
at
the
Forum
Oviedo
high
school
Helen
Calle
said
that
she
didn't
need
to
speak
because
she's
in
support
and
you
don't
need
to
speak
okay.
A
So
on
the
item
I
presented
by
our
member
350
s
on
Billboard,
is
that
Kari
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
that
was
involved,
including
the
BB
RN,
the
building,
better
revilers
neighborhoods
initiative
and
all
the
work
that
was
done
by
the
local
councillors
in
the
area
and
which
is
certainly
with
the
out
of
the
Pelham
district
school
board.
It's
it's
a
it's
an
excellent
project,
very,
very
happy.
Thank
you.
So
now
we'll
go
back
to
900.
C
C
The
site
is
located
in
an
active
area
of
the
city
at
the
intersection
of
the
confederation
interim
line
years
from
lady
station
platform
and
cycling
facilities,
bounded
by
a
train
to
east
and
mix
arranged
to
the
south
and
west
that
in
clear
low-rise,
residential
neighborhood
and
light
industrial
uses,
the
property
is
located
within
the
baby
district
secondary
plan
area
and
is
also
in
a
mixed-use
center
designation.
As
shown
on
star
significant
suitability,
projects
have
usually
been
considered
by
community
council.
C
Physically,
the
library
Zibby
bond,
alien,
the
button
and
cold
yeast
collectively
be
projects
are
forming
lessor
expansion
of
the
downtown
core,
and
then
he
and
expanded
community.
However,
although
as
no
known
in
entertaining
such
building
heights
in
the
sixty
plus
story
range,
every
centers
across
canada,
such
as
calgary
Montrell,
edmonton
eternity
all
striving
to
manage
growth
and
city
building
objectives,
they're
often
centered
on
or
in
proximity
to
transit
infrastructure.
C
The
proposal
consists
of
three
towers,
6556
and
27
stories
respectively,
over
1200
units,
a
mix
of
office
and
retail
uses
to
shy
of
1100
parking
stalls.
800
bike
parking
stalls,
access
to
the
site
was
supposed
to
a
new
signora's
intersection
in
the
center.
A
secondary
access
has
proposed
that
the
eastern
edge
of
the
site,
that
would
be
a
right
laya
movement
that
would
lead
to
the
enclosed
loading
area
in
the
rear
loading
in
the
area
and
the
on
the
rear
of
the
site
is
all
internalized.
C
C
Future
pedestrian
bridges
also
goes
that
would
directly
link
the
podium
of
the
building
over
the
a
train
tracks
to
the
west
side
of
the
train
line
at
full.
Build-Out
is
estimated
in
the
order
of
1.6
million
annual
transit
trips
will
be
generated
from
this
mixed-use
development,
400
million
dollars
in
destruction,
value
and
23
million,
and
development
charges.
As
part
of
the
approval
section,
37
Grima
includes
both
financial
and
non-functional
non
financial
contributions.
C
Nine
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
in
cash
contribution
payments,
along
with
2.5
million
in
site
plan
control
elements
to
be
constructed
by
the
applicant
form
part
of
this
a
community
premium.
The
implementing
zoning
also
requires
the
approval
play
an
affordable
housing
agreement
prior
to
cycling
to
trail
of
people
in
considering
the
applications.
Key
policy
considerations
are
found
in
the
Opie
and
baby
station
district
secondary
to
the
post
of
EOP
and
zoning
amendments
address
the
applicable
policies,
intragenic
directions
that
speak
to
mention
goals.
C
The
application
is
also
consistent
with
the
Official
Plan
policies
that
speak
along
the
criteria
for
the
location
of
and
design
of
tall
buildings.
When
considering
such
applications
for
secondary
an
amendment
along
with
considerations
that
set
out
minimizing
shadowing
providing
for
a
mix
of
uses
and
such
buildings,
simulated
in
the
permanent
location
proposal
also
responds
the
applicable
secondary
point
per
chair
that
give
direction
on
bulk
maximum
height
tower
separation
and
affordable
housing
minutes.
C
In
addition
to
these,
planning
objectives
that
were
assessed
to
the
application
was
also
fundamental
to
assess
the
impact
of
this
tower
in
significant
viewpoints.
The
subject
site
is
shown
in
the
big
star
in
this
image.
We
see
the
protected
recorders
that
are
focused
on
Parliament
Hill.
As
you
can
see,
this
property
is
well
outside
to
the
south
of
any
protected
view
plain
corridor.
C
A
C
B
A
D
You,
chair,
yeah,
yes,
I
will
be
speaking
to
elements
of
the
motion,
so
we
have
to
see
what
happens
today,
obviously
to
see
how
we
move
forward
and
in
terms
of
what
my
approach
will
be
and
what
we
hear,
obviously
from
the
community
but
to
and
from
some
staff.
But
I
will
be
speak
to
elements
of
yes,
a
affordability
in
there
and.
D
A
A
D
You
thank
you,
chair
members
of
committee
of
your
counselors,
who
are
here
I'm
here
this
morning,
because
I
live
in
West,
Center
town,
a
few
blocks
south
of
the
proposed
development
I've,
also
volunteered
on
the
Community
Association
for
well
over
ten
years.
I
want
to
touch
on
three
items
with
respect
to
this
proposal.
The
CDP
and
secondary
plan
process,
the
interface
of
the
building
to
its
neighbors
and
the
integration
of
truly
affordable
housing.
D
The
secondary
plan,
Schedule
C
squarely
outlines
maximum
height
blocks,
and
this
proposal
is
in
one
saying,
30
stories
now.
The
first
proposal
under
this
newly
adopted
plan
comes
in
asking
for
30
to
become
65.
So
did
we
miss
the
wink,
wink
nudge
nudge
to
the
development
industry?
When
council
adopted
it,
the
mayor
promised
that
these
secondary
plans
would
ensure
certainty
to
both
the
development
industry
and
local
communities.
The
only
thing
that
certain
is
that
65
is
not
30
or
anywhere
near
it
again.
D
The
community
rightly
fears
that
we
lied
to
you
about
the
value
the
city
puts
when
its
own
plans.
When
the
industry
comes
not
and
as
the
LRT
moves
forward,
there
will
be
similar
demands
at
all
areas
near
stations,
so
I
suggest
the
committee
reflect
carefully
on
this
one,
as
it
is
the
first
of
many
to
come.
D
Secondly,
the
other
issue
on
which
we
feel
the
developer
has
been
tone.
Deaf
is
the
way
the
building
integrates
into
the
existing
fabric.
The
area
to
the
south
is
one
of
two-story,
brick
housing,
much
of
it
built
right
after
the
1905,
a
very
old
and
very
cherished
neighborhood.
The
secondary
plain
speaks
to
nine
hundred
Albert
and
I
quote.
It
shall
include
demonstration
to
a
master
concept,
claim
that
the
subject
site
and
the
site
of
city
center
will
integrate
with
each
other
in
respect
to
connections.
D
Public
realm
and
overall
urban
designed
to
achieve
a
unified
and
seamless
program,
we
understand
the
intensification
when
we
understand
the
pressures
of
meeting
everyone's
expectations,
but
the
site
space
of
this
building
is
meaningless.
Despite
many
attempts
to
have
the
developer
integrate
the
facade,
we
are
still
looking
at
a
wall
of
loading
bays.
We
are
now
promised
some
nice
meals
but
mirrors
on
living.
There
are
nothing
but
lipstick
on
a
pig.
D
Thirdly,
affordable
housing
is
surely
top
of
mind
issue
for
all
these
days,
with
the
addition
of
over
1200
units
of
I
believe
rental
housing.
We
are
wanting
some
certainty
that
the
required
25%,
affordable,
housing
targets
will
be
met,
and
he
also
needs
some
of
it
to
be
truly
affordable
and
that
means
affordable
to
households
below
the
twentieth
income
percentile.
We
need
a
range
of
unit
sizes
so
that
young
families
can
be
accommodated.
D
We
need
housing
for
people
who
have
stock
shelves
in
much
promised
grocery
store
and
pour
lattes
on
the
patios
people
who
look
at
the
hockey
arena
as
cleaners
or
ticket
booth
attendants
should
be
able
to
walk
home
from
work
time.
Chuck,
oh
and
a
fourth
item,
while
I'm
here
we
need
to
get
our
DC's
back
in
the
downtown.
This
proposal
brings
at
least
2,500
people
to
live
on
a
tiny
parcel
of
land
there
they
go
to
school
or
swim
or
play
soccer.
D
A
C
Thank
you
so
to
the
southern
edge,
and
you
talked
about
two
things:
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
strategy
of
breaking
this
up
into
thirds
and
then
as
as
well
as
how
he
handled
pedestrian
and
cycling
movements
and
vehicle
Indians,
so
the
first
taking
on
the
pedestrian
cycling
on
the
south
edge.
There
is
a
newly
constructed
pathway
from
city
center
all
the
way
to
existing
multi-use
paths
here
in
Bayview,
and
this
space
is
separated
from
the
from
the
Wellington
Zoo
right
away.
C
You
see
a
truck
go
sit
in
and
the
idea
is
that
these
users
would
have
a
separate,
safe
area
segregated
from
any
potential
conflicts
with
trucks
to
move
freely
to
the
south,
because
we
recognize
this
is
an
important
linkage
to
from
the
mutt
the
city
center
on
back
edge
and
I
heard
the
words
well,
loading
bays,
there's
actually
four
doors
and
they
start
from
west
to
east
on
the
western
edge
of
the
South
elevation.
This
is
a
space
that
is
programmed
as
a
many
space
for
the
residents.
There's.
C
There's
doors
of
grade
residents
enter
this
space.
There's
facilities
proposed
such
as
a
bike
station
dog,
washing
facility
and
other
types
of
amenities
for
the
tenants.
We
also
see
an
external
staircase
that
allows
people
to
make
that
north/south
movement
through
the
site,
which
is
another
consideration
on
circulation
in
you
say,
been
working
on
this
site
for
ten
years
and
I
certainly
recognize
the
the
concerns
about
connectivity
and
circulation.
The
middle
third
is
the
loading
area.
There
are
no
loading
activities
at
grade.
C
Trucks
come
across
boundaries,
treat
diverse
into
the
space
under
I
made
under
the
podium
and
conduct
their
loading
and
unloading.
The
last
third
on
the
western
edge
has
two
significant
features.
The
first
is
the
public
plaza
that
frames
intersection
of
outward
city
center
and
then,
through
this
flatiron
podium,
you
see
commercial
uses,
operated
that
start
to
wrap
around
and
animate
that
edge
of
the
site.
A
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
the
integration
piece
we
would
just
explained
by
staff.
Just
want
to
be
clear
that
what
you
mean
is
not
as
a
community,
we're
not
concerned
that
cyclists
and
pedestrians
will
have
their
own
space,
that's
segregated
from
a
loading
zone
with
large
trucks.
It's
that
there
is
a
zone
with
large
trucks
that
separate
us
from
any
active
or
animated
space.
If
I,
if
I
look
up
there,
I
don't
see,
I
see
a
small
space
on
the
east
side
that
might
be
animated.
D
I
see
loading
zone,
which
is
about
two-thirds
of
the
space
and
then
a
dog
wash
and
and
bike
puppy.
Is
this
what
is
contemplated
by
the
communities
in
terms
of
octave,
an
animated
space,
a
loading
zone
of
any
sort
and
the
type
of
uses
on
the
back,
when
the
very
much
involved
in
the
community
worked
with
the
city
on
the
baby
station
district
community
design
plan?
No,
obviously
not,
but
I
personally
have
no
reason
to
go
on
this
pathway
because
it
doesn't
actually,
above
anything,
interested
in
other
than
noting
days
and
dog
wash.
D
I
could
take
the
dogs
or
wash,
but
the
fact
is
we
wanted
the
back
face
of
this
building
to
the
they
this
to
the
South
immediately,
a
city
center,
which
some
of
you
may
or
may
not
be
familiar
with
unless
you
buy
art,
is
a
very
whatever,
but
it's
a
redevelopment
area
and
it
will
be
redeveloped,
and
so
the
back
of
this
development
should
be
integrated
to
all
that's
going
to
happen
there.
So
we
wanted
animated
retail.
D
We
wanted
patios
and
cafes
and
and
people
coming
in
and
out
with
their
kids
in
their
strollers
and
some
place
spaces.
Now
the
front
this
building
turns
its
back
as
I
said.
Basically,
it's
neighborhood
and
saying
you
know:
here's
our
cute
loading
bays
other
than
the
East
payday
East
portion,
there's
nothing
for
us
there
I,
don't
know
why
I
would
ride
my
bike
from
them
up
to
there
to
go
to
city
centre.
It's
it's
an
unconnected
unconnected
to
the
neighborhood
and
it
it
does
not
speak
to
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
but
we'll
be
there.
D
A
D
A
Levin
Maya,
when
we
first
came
my
chair
and
she
was
a
director
of
planning,
this
was
in
February
2015.
This
is
not
a
new
application
for
those
in
the
audience
that
may
think
that
it
is
so
and,
as
you
know,
we've
had
them
very
engaged
and
I'm.
Thank
you
for
that
and
we'll
continue
to
be
engaged
with
this
pass
is
a
true
statement.
Absolutely
right
and
so
I
mean
what's
missing.
A
There
is,
you
know,
are
there
going
to
be
pad
retailers
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
like
there
is
at
the
artisan
bakery
across
the
street
where
they've
got
the
not
patio
terrace
but
they've
got.
Those
is
picnic
tables
and
things
like
that
right
so
anyway,
but
they
have
a
match.
They've
been
hang
on
catching
this
ban
sessions
of
miss
Bouchet,
yeah.
A
B
On
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It
was
interesting
to
hear
it
sounds
like
you
were
involved
when
the
CBP
was
originally
developed.
The
leads
for
these
EVPs
were
impressed
with
the
extent
of
the
public
consultation.
There
were
many
open
houses.
There
was
a
special
public
advisory
committee
established
and
you
reference.
D
Very,
very
impression
by
was
the
whole
point,
is
we
need
more
intense
development,
we
need
height,
we
need
it
up,
transit
modes
and
30
storeys
and
if
I
look
at
the
CBP's
that
have
been
approved
for
the
transit-oriented
developments
in
the
CDP
documents
of
the
city,
I
don't
see
any
that
recommend
higher
than
30
storeys
Blair
same
long
survey,
they're
all
capped
at
30
stories.
So
obviously
that
was
not
that
long.
That
2014,
you
Tod.
So
you
know
that
is-
and
this
is
the
first
one
out
of
India.
D
Thank
you
very
much
I
just
conferred
with
that.
Mr.
James
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
on
terms
of
the
evolution
of
the
policy
conditions
in
this
area.
So
while
the
CDP
and
secondary
plan
contemplated
the
30
stories,
once
the
official
plan
came
forward
and
was
approved
by
council
in
2014
in
this
particular
area,
we
talked
about
30-plus
stories.
So
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
was
aware
of
the
evolution
of
the
policy
in
this
particular.
B
D
B
I
did
again
notwithstanding
official
plan
policy
quote
eleven
point.
Nine
from
the
highlights
valve
will
not
be
considered
with
the
baby.
We
got
the
transit
station
within
the
general
urban
area
unless
provided
for
in
the
CDP,
and
my
question
is:
did
the
CDP
in
the
secondary
plan
not
establish
30
stories
approved
and
voted
for
by
council
30
stories,
and
there
was
an
acknowledgment
that
this
was
to
be
prima
facie
a
priority
over
the
Official
Plan
policy?
Yes,.
B
Sorry,
my
final
question
is
in
the
staff
report
and
this
is
very
important:
the
staff
right
with
respect
to
the
location
of
high-rise,
30
plus
buildings
and
their
contribution
towards
intensification
policy.
Two
point:
two
point:
two
point:
thirteen
of
the
Official
Plan
states
that
such
buildings
will
only
be
permitted
mr.
Medin,
where
they
are
identified
in
a
secondary
plan
and
in
this
case,
am
I
right
that
they
were
not
identified
as
greater
than
30
storeys
in
the
secondary
plan.
Is
that
correct?
That
is.
B
Thank
You
mr.
vice
chair
with
respect
to
height,
the
accounts
are
referred
to
the
CDP
and
it's
the
secondary
plan
actually
has
the
policy
direction
for
height
on
properties.
On
the
city
passed,
the
Council
passed
a
150
which
gave
us
direction
for
where
we
want
to
have
high-rise
buildings
about
30
plus
stories
and
they'll,
be
located
no
more
than
400
meters
away
from
transit
station,
especially
within
leaders
such
as
is
the
case
here.
That
is
the
direction
set
by
Council
and
action.
B
You
can
say:
that's
actually
the
certainty
that
it
is
that
those
policies
that
come
forward
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
amend
secondary
plans
along
with
the
Planning
Act.
So
we
take
a
second
a
plan.
We
are
allowed
to
amend
it.
Reusing
councils
direction
in
this
instance
to
go
with
buildings
that
are
over
30
storeys
in
the
intersection.
Now
it
is
of
to
train
lines
exactly
where
counselor
said
they
would
like
to
have
30
plus
story
beds,
so
you
allowed
to
amend
the
secondary
plans
and
the
council
direction
is
where
you
have
that.
Mr.
B
B
B
There
is
a
previous
slide
where
we
are
thanks
and
I
suspect
staff
will
wanna
provide
us
with
some
color
on
how
exactly
this
is
supposed
to
function,
that
pedestrian
connection
is
considered
to
be
either
with
a
million
and
a
half
dollar
drawdown
or
or
non-financial
contribution
to
to
this
project.
How
useful
do
you
think
that
would
be
for
members
of
your
community.
A
C
Thank
you
give
you
a
question:
I
want
to
qualify
couple
things,
and
this
image
does
not
show
the
bridge
that
we're
speaking
about
in
Section
37,
there's
two
significant
elements
here.
The
first
is
this:
this
pedestrian
bridge
is
a
separate
project.
That's
connecting
from
the
building
over
the
tracks
to
the
western
platform.
It's
publicly
accessible.
That's
that's
not
an
issue.
C
Someone
walking
from
the
east
crossing
over
from
baby
station
at
grade
or
from
today
on
baby's
lawyer
or
deciding
to
meandering
three
and
any
pedestrian
upon
the
Albert
Street
grade
would
be
of
access
that.
The
idea
is
that
we
had
that
exterior
connection
that
didn't
necessarily
force
people
inside
and
do
in
through
the
podium.
B
C
B
I'm
still
seeing
the
biggest
benefit
of
that
to
the
people
who
are
ability
in
the
building
or
who
are
visiting
the
retail
function
of
the
building
onion.
Mr.
vice
chair,
really,
if
it's
for
possessions
actually
cyclists
to
if
they
want
to
walk
their
bike,
if
you're
traveling,
really,
if
you're
traveling
from
the
east
to
the
west-
and
you
want
to
go
to
over
across
to
the
station-
it
not
opinion
it
serves
as
a
great
link.
B
D
C
Then
the
third
paid
zone
would
start
on
you
when
somebody
came
in
through
the
through
the
bridge
on
the
western
side
of
the
track,
so
one
would
be
able
to
cross
the
bridge
and
then
and
then
enter
into
the
third
zone
on
the
western
side
of
the
tracks
or
then
access
the
existing
muck.
That's
on
the
Tonto
marina
side,
so.
C
A
C
Morning
Canaries,
my
name
is
Eric
Darwin
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
Dalhousie
Community
Association,
which
I
helped
found
back
in
1982,
which
represents
the
neighborhood
on
the
west
side
of
the
downtown
core.
Since
the
time
that
that
area
was
called
Dalhousie
would
make
no
mistake
that
the
900
Albert
proposed
it
before
you
today
is
a
huge
investment
of
capital
and
being
located
at
the
junction
of
the
east-west
Confed
Line,
which
we
are
constantly
told
us.
C
The
largest
investment
in
the
city's
history
and
the
north-south
Truman
Line,
which
may
in
our
lifetimes
out,
should
go
to
the
airport
across
the
river.
To
that
other
place,
this
site
is
certainly
a
prime
one
and
truly
has
the
opportunity
to
create
a
by
getting
exciting
urban
node
or
it
could
be
a
big
flop.
We
all
live
to
regret.
I
fear,
sometimes
we're
a
bit
too
much
optimistic.
Let's
look
at
two
aspects
of
this
proposal
as
you've
noticed
it's
a
triangular
site
with
a
two-block
long
face
on
other
Street
as
it
approaches
Bayview
Station.
C
It
has
a
two
block,
long
face
to
the
existing
residential
commercial
neighborhood
to
the
south.
Then
it
has
a
shorter
but
no
less
important
face
onto
the
Trillian
corridor,
which
is
the
city's
business
cycle
and
pedestrian
path.
That
means
new
yard
or
whether
right
through
Bayview
station
south
to
bow
lake
that
runs
through
the
center
of
the
by
big
developers.
Just
before
the
previous
election
cycle.
C
Earlier
versions
of
this
projects
mean
podium,
had
a
six-story
windowless
facade
on
the
south
side,
cladding
corrugated
metal.
Since
then,
it's
much
improved
now,
it's
a
force
very
high,
largely
when
the
West
facade
earlier
versions
of
this
plan
had
active
spaces
and
a
ground
floor
facing
the
Chilean
pathway
with
Windows.
C
Now
the
prime
Greenway
rest
beside
is
a
series
of
windowless
indoor
storage
rooms,
even
the
Albert
Street
site,
which
should
be
animating,
the
sidewalk,
creating
a
lively
urban
environment
people
they
want
to
walk
along
to
get
to
the
station
into
the
homes
and
places
of
business
has
few
commercial
spaces
with
direct
sidewalk
access.
Instead,
it
favors
that
1970s
and
80s
entry
corridor
type
development
with
the
stores
they
seeded
into
the
property.
The
portions
of
the
Albert
frontage
display
windows
implores
are
six
to
eight
feet
above
the
sidewalk
level.
C
C
Inclined
stream,
if
Claridge
can
do
it,
why
can't
this
project
the
next
property
to
the
south,
the
city
center
complex
long
divided
as
the
ugliest
building
in
the
city
abounds,
but
they
were
power?
Yes,
artisan
bread
of
Repub
all
publicly
visible
attractions.
This
project
are
designed
to
prevent
forever.
Indeed,
within
spitting
distance
of
this
site,
the
Dalai
Lama,
the
giant
tiger
and
even
the
st.
Vincent
de
Paul
talk
do's,
do
your
to
animate
the
public
face
of
their
premises
than
does
this
project.
C
It's
a
billion
dollar
project
that
fails
to
accomplish
what
the
Obama
does
every
day.
This
is
not
something
that
counselors
can
tell
planning
stuff
to
go,
have
a
chat
with
Trinity
and
fix
this
up.
This
project
has
been
hostile
to
the
adjacent
properties
at
every
iteration.
The
exterior
of
this
project
resolves
the
charm
of
the
backside
of
a
1968
Kmart.
The
project
simply
isn't
ready
for
primetime.
My
second
point
today
is
a
lot
more
positive.
How
many
counselors
have
walked
around
the
city's
tallest
office
tower,
plus
the
Bears
tower
see
a
third
of
stay.
C
Black
glass
walk
from
the
70s
at
the
Reedy
end
of
the
downtown
core.
It's
a
famously
gusty
area,
well,
pedestrians
for
cold
winter,
winds
and
sudden
gusts
that
to
render
the
courtyard
spaces
around
the
tower
useless,
then
you
down
in
Newfoundland,
can't
hold
a
candle
to
the
wounds
around
tower
sea
and
when
it
rains,
the
water
runs
down
the
30-story
glass
facade
to
drench
anyone
who
ventures
outside
of
the
doors.
This
proposal
is
somewhat
better:
the
65
storey
buildings.
We
are
straight
up
late
at
the
very
edge
of
the
sidewalk
there's
made
useless
setback.
C
Plaza
pedestrians
can
be
gained
directly
underneath
the
bus.
The
proponent
has
done
a
very
study.
It
involves
significantly
shorter
dailies
and
use
the
rainy
data
from
8
kilometers
away
at
the
Ottawa
Airport
I.
Guess
that's
because
that's
where
the
data
was
easiest
to
find
this
site
has
lovely
north
and
west
exposures
open
to
the
gentle
breezes
that
walk
down
the
Ottawa
River
and
from
the
data
know
his
stormy.
D
A
A
D
We
can
expect,
will
class
architecture
at
what
would
be
one
of
the
key
developments
in
the
city
and
just
on
the
just
on
the
motion
of
a
wind
and
some
you
know,
but
it's
certainly
a
good
antenna
study
to
make
the
streets
more
livable
in
and
around
this
yeah
we
did
have
a
public
open
house,
because
people
are
concerned
about
the
effect
of
you
know
everything
that's
happening
along
the
corridor
and
what
is
that?
What
is
that
you
know
the
the
overall
the
holistic
plan
for
that?
So
what
would
that
look
like
and
how?
D
C
Fine,
fine,
barring
details
that
requires
your
concurrence
to
satisfy
that
condition,
and
you
do
have
the
ability
through
sight
and
control
to
a
new
delegate
authority
and
that
couldn't
they
come
back
to
Planning
Committee,
for
consideration
on
on
the
site
plan
matters
that
deals
with
that
whole
gamut
of
public
realm
doors
on
streets,
all
the
concerns
you've
raised.
So
that
is
that
mechanism
of
the
venturi
councillor.
C
On
the
question
of
the
overall
wind
study,
the
detailed
studies
are
based
around
a
natural
model
of
the
building,
so
I'm,
not
a
wind
expert,
but
the
idea
of
doing
a
supermodel
or
some
type
of
collective
cohesive
study
is
as
a
subtraction
or
some
manner
to
it.
I
question
some
of
the
logistics
of
how
we
would
do
that
because
we
were
dealing
with
theoretical
buildings
on
other
projects,
and
this
is
a
real
project
that
has
high
liberal
design
construction.
It's
not
to
say
that
it
could
not
be
done.
B
If
I
may,
madam
chair
as
part
of
a
set
plan,
control
approval
application
process
we
and
have
been
gone
through
the
sort
of
a
subcommittee
of
the
UD
RP
and
coming
up
in
taking
your
design,
that
would
be
a
requirement
to
the
site
plan
to
a
greater
update
there.
Wind
study,
you
can
do
that
on
there's
a
desktop.
B
It's
called
on
a
computer
one
there's
a
post
or
you
could
actually
build
a
model,
but
you
could
do
that
on
the
computer
with
knowing
what
we
know
about
whenever,
if
ever
even
want
to
be
a
bit
and
comes
in
at
some
time.
But
you
have
an
idea
what
it
might
look
like
and
other
developments
that
have
happened
in
the
area.
We
can
upgrade
to
win
study
through
the
South
nine
control
process.
So.
C
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
as
president
of
the
FCA,
the
Federation
of
citizens.
Association
were
very
interested
in
this
project.
First
of
all,
we
are
unincorporated.
Nonprofit
volunteer,
run
organization
that
acts
as
a
forum
for
community
associations
in
similar
nonprofit
groups
across
Ottawa
and
as
member
associations,
we
share
issues
facing
communities
and
when
appropriate,
we
certainly
like
to
comment
so
we
have
submitted
to
you
our
four
key
areas.
D
There
is
no
doubt
about
it
that
this
is
a
potential
game
changer
we
have
LRT
coming
in,
and
we
certainly
understand
the
whole
notion
of
trying
to
intensify
some
of
those
areas
across
the
city.
However,
we
want
to
comment
on
the
failure
to
comply
with
the
secondary
plan.
First
of
all,
as
you've
heard
and
I
know
this
not
to
repeat
a
lot
on
this,
but
the
whole
idea
of
30
stories
on
through
this,
this
project
seeking
more
than
double
that
is
extraordinary
and
the
other
part
is
along.
D
This
line
is
the
South
Side
so
that
it
can
be
more
animated
for
community.
We
pride
ourselves
as
an
organization
of
SCA
to
support
neighborhoods
neighborhoods
really
matter.
How
does
this
fit
within
that
whole
notion
tall
buildings
with
the
public
realm
and
having
them
designed
to
ensure
that
it's
welcoming
and
safe
for
pedestrians,
amenities
that
are
offered
to
residents
in
the
supporting
and
surrounding
community
are
really
important?
Dramatic
changes
to
this
secondary
plan
are
incredibly
changed
and
it
sends
a
wrong
message
and
it's
a
concern
for
communities.
D
The
second
part
they
want
to
comment
on
is
the
insufficient
section.
37
community
benefits.
How
do
these
really
support
and
are
they
sufficient?
The
reductions
of
any
community
benefits
can
be
a
problem
if
they
are
divorced
by
additional
demands,
and
these
demands
include
the
infrastructure.
They
include
this
support
services
needed.
D
D
When
we
look
at
this,
the
25%
of
units
should
be
affordable
to
the
30th
and
20th
percentile
to
ensure
affordability
near
transit.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
get
that
portion
right.
So,
in
conclusion,
those
four
issues
applicable
secondary
plan
providing
insufficient
of
a
second
section.
37
community
benefits
that's
a
key
issue,
looking
at
the
nature
of
Tod
and
development
with
the
parking
and
does
this
accommodate
and
support
families
to
provide
affordable
housing.
So
for
this
reason
we
are
very
concerned-
and
we
oppose
this
application
based
on
this
basis
and
I
guess.
D
One
last
item
here
just
to
comment
on
this
certainly
is
a
departure
from
the
heights
of
what
we've
seen
across
the
city
and
I.
Think
the
citizen
covered
a
very
interesting
schematic
in
the
last
few
days.
I
guess
a
bigger
question
here
is:
this
is
really
going
to
attract
the
numbers
that
are
really
forecast
here.
65
stories
without
really
accommodate
be
attractive
for
people.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
FCA,
thank
you
and
certainly
open
for
any
questions.
C
B
D
You
know
you
look
at
the
numbers
of
people
in
this
area
that
to
and
on
the
infrastructure,
in
that's
everything
in
the
area
benefits
to
the
direct
community
in
terms
of
the
friendliness,
the
animation
of
that
whole
area,
and
obviously
the
Breton
flats
is
something
that's
going
to
be
changed,
but
this
area
of
Albert
Street
backs
definitely
into
the
community
so,
and
the
last
thing
I
think
that
is
critical
in
this
I.
We
see
an
attempt
to
support,
affordable
housing.
B
D
A
B
I
do
want
to
just
add
a
little
bit
of
person
to
the
questions
of
counsel.
Sure
le
asked
right
now,
there's
a
credit
against
the
section
37
for
the
multi-use
popular
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
and
the
bridge
the
pedestrian
bridge
that
connects
set
at
a
million
dollars.
Do
you
feel
that
those
are
benefits
that
are
in
the
public
interest?
Is
that
the
best
use
of
section
37.
D
D
First
of
all,
is
it
really
serving
the
residents
of
the
project,
or
is
it
going
to
be
an
opportunity
just
to
show
something
in
a
geographic
fashion,
so
back
to
how
one
rule,
fines,
neighborhoods
and
and
and
what
really
matters
and
that's
fundamental
to
us
as
organization
as
an
organization
that
really
really
matters
in
neighborhoods?
What
makes
up
that
neighborhood?
Some
of
the
things
have
been
mentioned
about
access
to
sports
facilities,
schools
and
all
of
that
sort
of
thing.
It's
just
not
the
groundskeeping.
It's
just
not
that
part.
A
A
D
You
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak,
and
this
project
is
actually
difficult
to
try
to
figure
it
out.
There's
been
so
many
changes
and
iterations
of
it
over
the
years
and
even
yesterday,
when
I
was
trying
to
go
through
and
not
tuck
the
numbers
I.
What
I
was
seeing
from
mr.
Diaz
information
that
was
sent
out
and
the
transportation
study?
D
Savers
are
photographer
hundred
and
fifty
people,
some
dimension
ants
or
who
knows,
and
MBS
I
also
notice
that
the
looks
to
do
flexibility
in
looking
for
flexibility
and
zoning,
so
that
you
can
figure
out
where
you
want
to
put
those
towers
in
Sector
D
your
sector
C,
so
both
of
those
have
from
27
to
56
or
57
stories.
So
you
can
flip
them
around.
So
we
still
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
look
like:
I
guess,
one
of
my
biggest
issues
or
my
concerns
and
I'm
with
the
Community
Association,
but
also
a
neighbor.
D
D
D
Its
way
to
the
point
of
this
and
reason
why
why
it's
been
looked
at
for
extra
height
is
because
it's
right
at
the
juncture
of
the
two
trends,
the
two
LRT
systems,
so
putting
1,100
or
1,200
parking
spots
into
this
facility
is
just
insane
and
I
looked
again
at
the
Transportation
Study
and
the
modal
split
for
the
sharpness
under
traffic
was
seventy-five
percent
by
car
and
25
percent
by
other
means.
So
that's
really
terrible
if
you're
begging
us
for
the
other
key
system.
A
D
Know
better
so,
in
addition
of
600
detail
vehicle
trips
during
the
p.m.
peak
hours
and
I
assume,
as
can
you
mostly
scott
Mel
Burke,
because
that's
where
they
got
to
come
out
on
shooting
and
689
vehicle
trips
during
Saturday
peak
hours,
they
add
to
an
already
very
congested
Road
where
the
major
transit
hub
and
it
all
really
can
be
whitey.
Because
the
pinch
point
is
the
bridge:
that's
right
at
the
LRT
stations
it's
two
days
wide.
Then
it
puts
your
psyche
upon
it.
D
It's
not
going
to
be
widened,
and
certainly
we
wonder
if
those
parking
spots
are
being
built
to
provide
no
parking
and
therefore
Pepi
revenue
to
the
future
sends
arena.
It
spoke
to
your
button
thoughts
when
and
if
it's
poking
the
button
flouts.
So
it
seems
to
be.
The
parking
is
not
necessarily
for
this
building.
Only
it's
for
the
future,
so
people
can
drive
to
the
heck
of
is
why
we
then
take
the
LRT
system
a
concern
about
what
will
face
Hintonburg.
D
D
The
previous
designs
were,
worse,
is
9
or
11
stories
of
the
parking
garage.
This,
hopefully,
would
be
better.
That
is
still
not
that
clear
and
that
sort
of
from
the
bird's
eye
view,
and
we
had
hoped
to
see
that
we
were
told
back
in
at
the
scene,
Anthony's
moody
that
we
would
but
we
haven't
and,
as
other
people
have
said,
it
does
turn
its
back
on
the
community
and
I
just
cost
you
that's
what
Harlan
Cross
did
when
home
cross
was
was
warned
about
when
it
was
first
developed
and
home
cross
the
retail
years.
D
D
D
D
D
The
Tattler
does,
but
the
bottom
part
is
not
so
you
need
to
have
more
animation
and
that
well
in
certainly
the
back
part
where
the
parking
where
the
loading
dock,
sir,
that's
really
a
disaster
and
a
missed
opportunity,
giving
a
tiny
little
black
way
for
people
to
walk
up
the
farthest
edge
doesn't
try
to
integrate
it
with
the
community.
On
the
south
side,
I'm.
B
B
D
B
D
D
Pad
yes,
sir
thanks
thanks
chair
and
so
just
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
on
your
comments
around
the
connectivity.
In
the
MSS
side,
I
mean
this.
This
building
is
as
as
close
to
Hinton
burglary
as
it
is
to
the
house.
Okay,
this
Indian
Ward
act
and
our
communities
are
becoming
more
and
more
integrated.
I
would
I
would
say
over
time.
D
Our
kids,
through
schooling,
Hintonburg
and
and
I
know,
I'm
often
in
Hintonburg
I
got
kicked
out
a
lot
from
my
college
answer
either,
but
the
the
CDP
actually
contemplated
a
pedestrian
bridge
that
would
go
over
the
Trillian
line.
That
would
connect
the
the
to
the
Wellington,
no
Wellington
alignment
on
either
side
to
what
we
now
be,
the
pathway
or
Wood
is
the
conclave.
D
Is
the
pathway
on
this
side,
but
that's
again,
I'm
a
south
side
of
the
building,
and
you
know
if
you
go
out
today
and
just
take
a
look
down
that
corridor,
it
could
be
pretty
exciting
if
you
had
good
animated
space
on
the
south
side,
now
I'm
not
trying
to
lead
you
on
with
my
question,
but
do
you
still
see
this
eyes
proposed
today?
Do
you
associate
voyage
over
the
Trillian
line
as
being
a
benefit
to
both
of
those
communities?
D
Absolutely
and
they've
been
asking
for
that
bridge
for
many
many
years,
and
so
that
would
be
a
benefit
but
having
to
go
to
that
bridge
and
then
being
so
far
away
from
the
begging,
because
you're
separated
by
the
loading
docks
and
the
trucks
coming
in
and
back
again,
that's
not
conducive
to
drawing
the
community
into
that
bathing.
So
you
want
a
community
friendly
as
opposed
to
tramping
through
the
loading
dock
area
and
the
garbage
area.
I
would
assume,
because
I
mean
certainly
from
the
perspective
of
our
side
of
the
track.
D
The
benefit
is
not
that
we
don't
like
going
to
murder.
You
certainly
do
it
no
other
other
ways
of
getting
there,
but
we
lose
most
of
that
benefit
for
any
type
of
bridge,
because,
as
a
captain
Bishop
in
that
area,
there's
nothing
to
draw
us
to
that
popular
in
the
south
side.
There's
no
business,
there's
no,
there's
nothing
there.
We
can't
use
that
pathway.
It
looks
nice
in
renderings
with
a
lot
of
people,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
will
actually
not
be
on
the
south
side,
so
I
just
wanted
to.
D
A
A
Now
you
see
why
remember
last
time
you
were
nervous
about
coming
because
it
was
wrong
now
you're
going
to
this
was
not
right
in
my
backyard,
but
it's
close
enough
that
they
were
concerned.
It
doesn't
matter.
Somebody
could
come
from
stead,
so
this
is
a
very
big
city.
Building
the
the
largest
I
think
of
its
kind
in
the
city
for
the
purposes
of
LRT,
so
I
think
anybody
from
the
city
should
be
coming
here
and
speaking
joke.
Quite
frankly,
yep.
D
D
D
Basically,
this
proposal
violates
major
critical,
City,
Planning
documents
and
policies
for
the
note,
there's
no
plan
for
the
community
amenities
and
services
that
would
be
required
to
support
such
a
huge
influx
of
people
into
a
neighborhood.
These
skyscrapers
have
been
planned
in
a
vacuum,
so
I've
got
two
quick
points.
First
of
all,
particularly
egregious
is
the
complete
disregard
for
planning
documents
and
policies,
so
this
proposed
development
does
not
align
to
the
community
design
plan
the
secondary
plan
or
a
zoning
bylaw.
D
This
proposal
is
for
literally
more
than
double
the
height
of
the
zoning,
more
than
double
the
CVP
from
2013.
So
really
not
that
long
ago,
set
the
height
limit
to
30
storeys
for
this
site,
based
on
it
being
on
the
LRT
line
at
a
transit
junction.
Now
we're
saying
it
needs
to
be
more
than
twice
that.
What
is
the
rationale
for
the
30
story?
Zoning,
and
why
is
that
rationale?
D
No
longer
valid,
we
knew
when
we
set
the
height
to
30
minutes
as
partners
set
the
limit
to
30
stories
that
this
site
was
on
a
transit
junction.
This
height
is
excessive,
it's
more
than
twice
of
any
existing
building
in
Ottawa,
in
fact
that
the
place
towers
are
overwhelmingly
tall
and
other
scale
with
both
the
surrounding
community
and
the
established
voice
and
built
form
objectives
in
the
CDP.
D
D
This
proposal
moves
away
from
decisions
that
were
made
through
extensive
community
and
developer
consultation,
as
many
others
referred
to
already
today,
whether
it
was
to
talk
about
height,
aware,
the
active
phases
of
the
building
are
and
going
forward
on
all
the
planning
processes
that
the
city
should
be
defending
now.
Secondly,
buildings
are
not
built
in
a
vacuum.
Where
is
the
plan
for
the
community?
D
There's
some
who
say
we
need
to
further
increase
density,
especially
near
the
LRT,
and
and
that's
why
we
need
the
success
of
height.
We
are
not
opposed
to
density,
but
where
are
the
holistic
plans
for
the
community
that
would
be
needed
around
these
buildings?
How
exactly
they're
these
towers
be
integrated
into
the
local
community?
Where
are
the
schools,
the
parks,
the
childcare
facilities,
the
community
centers?
These
buildings
are
being
proposed
in
a
vacuum.
Where
were
the
families,
teenagers,
adults,
children
seniors?
D
D
A
I
want
you
to
listen
to
mr.
James,
so
you
talk
about
density
because
you
talked
a
lot
about
intensification,
that
sort
of
thing
and
there's
some
information.
You
know
this
is
like
this
is
even
for
this
developers
on
a
new
site,
but
I
mean
councillor
le
will
tell
you
back
when
he
was
the
chair
of
the
Ottawa
Public
Library,
which
was
2001
to
2004.
A
A
B
A
B
B
Just
the
story
about
height
and
density
and
they
came
up
the
Sun
consomme.
Remember
not
that
long
ago,
babies
appear
next
to
a
tree,
which
was
on
the
Dell
Honda
site,
which
is
three
powers
and
was
fifty-five
stories,
and
the
other
was
forty
five
stories.
Then,
of
course
you
just
go
across
the
road
right.
Now
the
courage
is
building
at
the
corner.
There,
a
45
storey
tower
policy,
the
development
along
this
area.
B
We
basically
led
to
the
policies
that
we
find
in
the
City
Council's
latest
approved
official
panel
to
a
150
about
where
we
want
to
have
height
and
they
want
to
have
density
and
it's
in
rich
new
centers,
and
particularly
as
mentioned
earlier,
it's
around
train
stations,
it's
around
the
corridor
that
we
have
for
the
Oh
train
along
here.
There
you
get
your
greatest
Heights
and
also
up
here.
If
you
look
at
the
policies
of
OPA
150,
which,
as
I
mentioned
within
200
maximum
400,
you
want
your
height
and
you
want
your
density.
B
He
wants
it
to
clear
there.
You
want
tall
buildings
to
appear
in
clusters
if
they
want
them
better,
so
you
get
beyond
the
400-meter
means.
You
don't
get
30
storey
buildings
on
this
subject
property
here,
although
the
heights
are
taller
and
as
I
mentioned
you're
in
the
intersection
of
two
rail
lines,
the
density
of
what
is
going
to
be
constructed
is
the
same
as
there
was
a
parade
by
council
with
respect
to
the
DC
area
expectation.
The
density
has
not
changed.
It's
been
redistributed
in
its
form.
B
So
when
people
talk
about
not
wanting
the
density,
that's
already
approved
and
the
height
counts,
as
I
mentioned,
although
it's
not
currently
in
the
secondary
premises,
we're
doing
now
where
many
a
secondary
plan
to
follow
direction.
That
counter
said
is
where
we
want
the
story
buildings.
So
that's.
Why
we're
discussing
right
here
today
in
its
stats
position
that
it
meets
that
policy
direction
established
by
council,
but
also
to
note
that
the
density
has
not
changed
when
mobiles
are
put
in
previously.
A
B
What
are
I
want
to
delve
down
a
bit
more
into
what
those
community
amenities
are
you've
heard,
or
presumably
many
of
heard
us
talk
a
lot
at
this
committee
about
the
intensity
that
is
coming
from
the
escarpment
all
the
way
through
to
Churchill
Avenue.
What
does
the
neighbourhood
need
to
be
successful,
and
what
do
you
see
is
not
coming
with
the
intensity
that
we're
getting.
D
It's
a
great
question
on
every
sitting.
Waiting
to
return.
I
was
reading
the
great
article
that
gem
generous
rate
for
this
CBC's
website
and
she
talked
about
how,
in
other
areas
that
are
being
built,
such
as
tits
ville.
There
is
a
current
plan
for
three
parks
and
a
school
and
a
couple
other
things
that
I
remember
because
I
was
reading
quickly.
So
that's
you
know
the
basics.
When
you
look
at
building
an
area
additional
on
what
was
it?
D
1200
units
is
the
density,
so
maybe
1200
families,
you
know
maybe
2400
people,
that's
a
whole
lot
of
new
people,
whole
bunch
of
families
that
need
schools
to
send
their
kids
to.
We
have
four
boards,
so
you
need
four
different
skills.
It's
called,
probably
that's
a
joke
syndicate
do
whatever
you
want,
but
then
it's
more
than
that
right.
It's
things
like
grocery
stores
and
talk
to
someone
mentioned
how
this
is
an
area
that
there's
been
a
long
promised
missing.
Grocery
store
a
bit
of
a
food
desert.
We've
got
a
library,
that's
going
to
go
out.
D
That's
great.
These
people
are
very
lucky
that
they'll
have
them.
I'd
leave
a
or
where's
the
community
centers.
Where
are
the
daycare
centers
I'm,
the
parent
of
a
seven-year-old
child
who
wasn't
either
to
go
back
to
work?
When
my
not?
We
then
be
because
I
couldn't
find
childcare?
Where
are
these
1,200
families
going
to
find
childcare?
What
about
the
seniors
that
are
going
to
move
into
the
area
because
they're
looking
for
the
maintenance-free
downtown
lifestyle?
D
D
B
Madam
cherry,
it
depends
it
all.
The
height
was
to
be
in
what
is
known
as
the
station
area.
Yes,
and
there
were
a
policy
direction
for
different
heights.
One
was
fifty
five.
Forty
five
to
forty
fives
there's
also
a
couple
of
25
story
towers.
So
Italia
is
about
thirty,
but
there
is
stated
that
the
those
Heights
have
to
play
within
the
stationery,
which
was
close
to
the
column
by
the
old
train
station.
Okay,.
D
So
I
guess.
My
point,
though,
is
that
we
didn't
know
what
was
coming
through
the
person
calling
CDP.
It
did
establish
55
stories.
I
remember
that
was
my
my
first
council
meeting,
but
that
was
not
established
with
the
baby
station
CDP
it
was
30,
so
there
there
is
a
difference
here
in
terms
of
what
the
expectation
was.
After
there
suited
peas
were
established.
B
Let
me
if
I
may
just
them
a
lot
of
velvet
was
going
on
in
sort
of
went
hand
in
hand,
so
the
the
form
that
the
that
the
kali
president
calling
secondary
and
person
relations
and
development
poses
I
already
before
us
that
up
relation
here.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
the
direction,
the
papacy
okay
150
by
the
mending
secondary
plans.
B
Of
course,
the
Planning
Act
does
led
us
to
do
that,
and
it
gives
us
direction
about
if
we're
going
to
amend
those
plans
were
going
to
have
the
highest
buildings,
as
I
mentioned
respects
in
me
to
to
commands
the
stations
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
today
is
would
to
discuss
the
amendment
to
the
plan
in
relation
to
policy
direction
from
Council.
Okay,.
D
Fair
enough,
but
and
I
think
you
know,
if
you
just
go
back
to
a
2013,
we
did
know
these
two
lines
were
coming
up
and
weird
paying
for
them
at
that
point
or
were
on
the
purposes
of
paying
for
them.
We
should
have
said
at
the
time.
65
stories
was
the
height.
We
didn't
say
that
city
didn't
say
that
I
said
30,
so
I
think.
D
It
is
most
important
and
I'll
be
coming
back
to
that
later,
but
when
we
are
asking
our
communities
all
of
our
communities
to
come
out
and
establish
community
design
plans
and
secondary
plans,
we
have
to
tell
them
what
they
expect
and
hope
these,
and
if
it's
65
stories
which
we're
saying
today,
it
is
nothing
much
has
changed,
then
we
should
have
said
at
the
time
that
it
was
65
stories.
Thank
you
thank.
A
A
A
D
A
Senior
Planner
with
photon
consultants
here
today
with
Sean
Kennedy
principal
from
G,
GL,
o
architects
and
together
we're
going
to
present
for
the
applicants,
tip
Albert
and
so
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
thrilled
presentation.
They've
covered
off
a
lot
of
the
policy
environment
and
the
context
questions
so
I'll
keep
my
presentation
brief
and
allow
time
for
questions,
and
then
mr.
Kennedy
is
going
to
proceed
with
an
overview
of
the
development
as
well.
So,
as
has
been
mentioned
here
this
morning,
this
project
represents
over
three
years
of
design
and
planning
work.
D
The
development
itself
has
always
worked
within
the
the
previously
approved
coastal
area
of
130,000
square
meters
that
was
previously
obtained
by
Phoenix
developments.
But
this
project
we
feel,
has
gone
well
beyond
the
expectations
of
the
previous
but
bolívar
in
terms
of
design
excellence.
Our
original
proposal
was
submitted
officially
in
March
2016
and
involve
350
five-story
buildings
with
a
single
large
podium.
D
It
included
also
above
grade
parking,
as
referred
earlier
today,
through
the
three
working
with
staff
and
with
the
community
and
the
UDF
P.
We've
come
to
the
plan
today,
which
includes
a
sixty
five,
fifty
six
and
twenty
seven
storey
tower
on
on
a
retail
podium
with
connection
to
the
LRT
station
and
then
animated
Street
cart
along
Albert
Street.
D
As
proposed,
the
committee
should
recall
that
129
thousand
square
meters
of
coastal
area
proposed
for
this
site
is
less
than
the
existing
political
area,
as
mentioned
by
mr.
James
a
few
months
ago.
The
building
area
has
simply
been
redistributed
it
into
a
broader
mix
of
uses
and,
in
our
opinion,
are
more
appropriate
design
with
slender
towers.
D
Those
buildings
are
appropriate
in
a
from
a
policy
perspective
and
in
keeping
with
the
city's
intensification
objectives,
providing
they
also
achieved
the
urban
design,
built
form
and
transition
expectations
of
the
Official
Plan.
As
we've
heard
from
staff
this
morning,
mr.
Kennedy
will
provide
shortly
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
in
terms
of
its
architectural
treatments
and
improvements
to
the
public
realm.
The
project
also
recognizes
strategic
views
and
contributes
to
the
public
benefit
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
and
community.
Serving
retail
and
active
street
frontage
around
the
site.
D
The
podium
and
overall
massing
of
the
towers
are
low.
High
will
make
a
positive
contribution
to
the
Ottawa
skyline
and
fit
well
within
the
plan
function
for
the
transit
no
at
baby
station,
as
per
their
zoning
details
in
the
proposed
holding
symbol,
tip
Albert
and
the
project
team
that
continues
to
work
with
staff
and
EDR
P
to
enhance
the
public
realm
on
all
sides
and
Napoleon
and
refined
the
tower
architecture.
D
As
noted
in
the
staff
report
with
regard
to
section
37
its
proposal,
a
contribution
of
$450,000
be
made
to
the
bridge
crossing
across
the
Oh
train
tracks,
as
was
previously
negotiated
by
Phoenix,
and
also
about
a
five
hundred
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
contribution
to
the
world.
Fourteen
affordable
housing
fund
be
made
there
also
further
commitments
for
pedestrian
servicing
and
access
easements
and
a
new
pathway
along
the
South
property
limit
to
connect
the
city
center
to
the
O
Train
corridor.
D
The
person
comments
with
regards
to
the
parking
and
there
are
there's
thousand
fifty
nine
parking
spaces
proposed
to
serve
all
uses
within
the
development.
The
intensity
of
the
uses
drives
the
number
of
parking
rates
and
the
ratios
for
parking
have
been
calculated
using
a
market
study
and
by
tip
Albert.
The
ratio
is
proposed
or
not
out
of
line
with
other
projects
recently
approved
in
proximity
to
LRT
stations.
D
D
Remove
that
it's
not
your
sufficient
to
bridge
at
that
location
would
cost
some
15
to
20
million.
So
it's
not
your
sufficient
and
it
will
go
into
two
different
funds
that
will
help
to
provide
benefit
to
the
community.
The
existing
communities,
one
is
a
community
garden
fund
and
the
other
350,000
I
plan
to
use
to
work
and
build
a
park
in
this
area
too,
to
partially
at
least
animate
the
space
that
provides
some
of
the
airport
community
that
is
needed,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear
that
it
is
my
intention
to
do
that
tomorrow.
C
Chair
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
design
of
900
Albert
briefly
and
the
process
that
we've
gone
through
like
to
tell
you
about
the
architectural
approach
to
900
Albert
on
a
routine
Lee
aware
of
the
importance
of
this
project
to
the
whole
city
of
Ottawa
and
we're
very
excited
by
the
design.
We've
come
up
with
because
it's
a
rare
chance
to
design
a
tree.
Live-Work-Play
community,
one
with
connections
to
its
neighborhood
and
to
the
whole
city.
C
As
you
can
see,
the
plan
is
organized
by
three
towers
of
varying
Heights
that
step-down
and
spiral
to
a
landscape
podium
that
does
touch
down
lightly
on
the
street
edge.
The
site
is
compact
and
irregular
in
shape
and
organized
around
a
central
street.
That
brings
you
into
this
site,
lined
with
shopping.
Major
public
utilities
run
along
both
the
west
edge
and
the
south
edge
of
the
property.
C
The
project,
as
you
can
see
here,
will
serve
as
an
anchor
for
the
future
planned
development
at
lebreton
flats,
Claridge
I'm.
Here
you
can
see
one
of
the
proposals
for
the
city
center
adjacent
property
with
the
street,
down
the
middle
align,
with
the
plaza
at
the
end
about
the
site
plan,
and
this
view
s
staff
showed
before
the
towers.
C
Notwithstanding
the
addition
of
the
bridge
to
connect
for
those
who
don't
want
to
come
in
that
transit
connection
leads
into
a
common
market
space
into
offices
and
a
shopping
and
through
an
active
streetscape
with
the
building
facades
are
in
the
public.
Realm
are
designed
with
an
open
and
transparent
storefronts,
with
a
variety
of
entries
that
can
be
located
all
along
these
streets
with
a
great
deal
of
porosity
into
and
out
of
the
streets.
C
The
Market
Hall
experience
is
one
shaped
with
a
number
of
open
views
to
the
public
way
and
the
materials
themselves
are
warm
and
tactile
inviting
people
to
come
up
and
touch.
So,
as
you
can
see
from
this
diagram
people
connecting
in
through
transit
coming
into
this
large
mixed
Market
Hall
space
with
additional
retail
spaces
lining
the
streets.
C
C
That
space
extends
to
a
parking
Plaza
on
the
east
point
of
the
site
and
that
space
again
is
designed
with
a
lot
of
transparency
and
porosity
that
wraps
around
to
the
southern
facade,
with
restaurant
spaces
and
other
kinds
of
uses
that
can
spill
out
into
the
facade.
During
doing
great
weather
like
today,
now.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
sister
through
that
of
the
parking
I
think
the
first
people
mentioned
about
time.
The
attention
to
parking
is
to
satisfy
parking
requirements
within
the
development,
so
it
was
it
fair
to
say
that
the
public
parking
for
other
users,
besides
those
using
the
development
percentage,
that
is,
that
a
correct
assessment
of
your
wit,
that's.
B
D
D
You
know
allowable,
but
we
could
potentially
have
a
situation
where
over
a
thousand
parking
spots
are
built
and
one
tower
is
built
for
10
15
20
years.
So
how
do
you
ensure
this
would
be
a
question
to
stop
after
that?
What
are
you
doing
to
ensure
that
we
won't
have
a
case
where
we
have
at
1049
parking
spots
for
500
minutes
or
one
tower,
which
would
then
be
an
absolute,
not
a
glut
of
parking.
The
see
really.
C
D
A
D
C
D
A
D
D
Do
we
ensure
way
that
we're
not
going
to
get
one
tile
for
twenty
years?
So
we
don't
have
the
number
of
residential
units,
the
number
of
commercial
establishments
that
are
required
for
the
amount
of
parking
you're
asking
for,
but
instead
we
have
no
half
over
a
thousand
parking
spots
which
will
roll
exceed
the
maximum
amount
of
cargo.
I
know
the.
A
C
Thank
you,
there's
no
answer
I
think,
and
this
is
certainly
something
we've
discussed
counts
there.
There's
there's,
we
all
understand
programmatically.
Yes,
they
have
to
bed
the
six
levels
of
parking
at
the
onset
and
we
have
to
we'd
have
to
investigate
more
whether
that
would
be
a
zoning
bylaw
deficiency.
One
is
to
have
that
much
parking
in
this
situation
of
one
tower
and
more
office
building.
C
Any
any
combination
of
the
two
I
think
there's
also
the
concern
that
you
may
have
about
those
interim
uses,
and
we
picked
up
on
those
in
your
comments
establish
which
we
appreciate
as
them.
You
have
a
range
of
uses
that
includes
parking
lot
that
would
potentially
draw
in
other
users
from
the
site
and
allow
them
to
park,
and
proximity
to
transit
station
and
I
can
appreciate
that
concern.
B
B
Then
you
can't
just
bet
half
the
population
back
dig
the
hole
again,
so
it
all
has
to
be
done
at
once,
but
you
could
to
the
safe
plant
control
put
in
some
conditions
and
explore.
This
may
be
worth
taking
some
securities
or
something
about.
Although
a
parking
garage
would
be
a
permitted
use
that
they
could
would
not.
B
Rent
the
night
to
save
commuters
was
something
that
we
discussed
about
that
they
would
be
used
specifically
for
the
tenants
of
the
building
and
they
would
have
to
provide
them
because
in
the
end,
when
they
go
forward,
therefore,
there's
three
towers
that
would
eventually
be
constructed
that
probably
true
to
size
and
control
process.
We
could
look
at
that
because
I
mentioned
theoretically,
because
parking
garage
would
be
a
permitted
use
and
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
rent
them
out.
So
there
have
to
be
some
sort
of
stipulations,
but
around
that
to
prohibit
it.
D
Okay,
so
now
I'm
going
to
make
that
a
direction
to
staff
today
that
I
would
like,
through
holding
position,
that
that
parking,
that
you
find
a
way
to
establish
that
parking
be
phased
in,
that
there
is
no
public
parking.
It
is
not
rented
out
and
finding
a
way
for
parking
not
to
be
used
in
the
interim.
I
go
down
six
floors,
but
you
don't
have
to
fill
it
with
cars
at
some
point.
So
I
will
give
that
direction.
I'll
work
on
that
and
come
back
later.
B
D
I
just
have
another
question
too,
to
the
applicant
them
and
on
amenities.
I.
Think
that
it's
something
that
we
have
great
concerns
about
in
the
community.
We
share
a
very
small
Recreation,
Center
plant
recreation
center.
It's
actually
number
one
in
the
whole
city
for
memberships
know:
people
have
memberships
for
the
plat
field,
then
annual
memberships,
then
any
other
Recreation
Center
in
the
city
and
a
lot
of
people
come
in
to
plant,
which
is
great,
but
it's
almost
impossible
near
impossible
to
get
your
kids
in
swimming
lessons
add
to
a
plant
pool
so
I.
D
Just
wonder
you
know
in
terms
of
the
amenities,
recreation,
centers
parks,
indoor,
it's
not
under
the
calculate
development
charges
later
and
and
how
we,
how
we
need
to
establish
development
charges
and
and
providing
amenities
public
amenities
to
to
the
broader
community,
but
in
terms
of
amenities
for
families
in
your
buildings
inside
and
outside.
What
are
you
contemplating
for
young
families,
with
stores
with
others
with
dogs.
D
Be
more
dogs
than
people
in
these
buildings,
which
is
not
a
bad
thing,
but
you
need
amenities
for
them.
What
are
you
going
to
do?
For
you
know?
Teenagers
live
in
these
buildings
like
what
are
the
inside
and
outside
amenities
that
you're
contemplating
for
all
the
residents
of
it
can
be
some
2,000
residents
living
in
these
in
these
buildings.
C
C
As
was
discussed,
there
are
a
number
amenities,
both
in
the
south
and
the
rest.
Besides
that
open
directly
out
onto
open
space
at
the
ground
floor,
contemplating
things
like
a
bike,
club
and
pet
play
areas,
and
things
like
that
that
they
animate
that
area
that
also
serve
certain
users
as
I
go
up
further
in
the
on
the
upper
level.
C
This
Market
Hall
space,
which
kind
of
runs
through
the
project,
is
it
serves
essentially
as
the
lobby,
but
for
residents,
but
it's
an
open
to
the
community
open
public
retail
space
and
that
in
itself
is
a
is
an
amenity.
But
if
you
notice
in
some
of
those
images,
there's
a
there's
kind
of
an
open,
atrium
space
that
gives
up
to
an
upper
level
which
takes
you
over
to
the
office
building
with
its
own
amenities,
as
well
as
some
other
private
gathering
spaces
for
residents.
C
D
D
Okay
time,
yes,
okay,
thank
you!
For
that.
So
I
mean
what
I
see
is
yeah
you.
You
have
considered
the
internal
amenities
for
lives
living
now,
I'm,
not
so
sure
about
the
external
amenities,
because,
again,
that's
outside
maybe
he's
going
to
hang
out
there.
We
are
never
ever
going
to
meet
our
neighbors
and
hang
out
together
in
a
loading
zone.
D
Working
in
the
service
industry
can
also
afford
to
rid
here,
and
so
do
you
have
a
family
unit?
So
is
the
dip?
Is
the
proponent
open
to
having
the
affordability
at
that
at
that
level
and
providing
farming
units
two
and
three
bedroom
units
for
affordability?
Because
that's
that's
what
we
needed?
Well,
all
of
the
city
that
certainly
be
looking
forward
here.
D
A
A
Since
you
are
always
there
is
that,
but
only
casually
because
then
I'm
going
to
excuse
the
the
delegations
and
the
Builder
questions
of
and
by
the
way,
I
didn't
know
my
less
tourism
I,
don't
have
another
person
on
my
list
so
but
just
so
y'all
know
because
12:30
within
a
break
councillor
Jesus
here,
because
there
is
somebody's
Ric
to
Hawthorne,
so
our
bath
staff
we're
doing
presentation
on
the
annual
development
port
to
bump
them
back.
So
with
your
agreement,
we
will
have
the
Hawthorn
item.
A
B
You
this
is
one
of
the
interesting
opportunities
you
had
to
raise
the
architecture
of
the
of
the
overall
building
I
think
you
have
a
responsibility
to
the
people
of
Ottawa
to
have
a
an
iconic
beautiful
building
at
this
kind
of
height,
moving
forward
every
establishing
shot
of
the
city
that
we
see
before
the
hockey
game
are
there.
The
football
game
is
going
to
include
this
building.
It
will
help
define
the
landscape.
B
C
Ottawa's
prominence
is
obviously
near
and
dear
to
to
everyone
here
in
the
city,
but
it's
also
a
city
on
a
global
stage
and
we're
keenly
aware
of
that
fact.
The
architecture
of
the
city,
if
you
indulge
me
just
to
make
some
observations,
robic
is
very
much
in
the
sort
of
broader
context
of
North.
America's
is
very
much
dominated
by
the
national
government
buildings
and
is
specifically
Peace
Tower
at
Parliament,
which
is
very
much
an
architecture
of
its
time
that
the
key
element
to
it
is
the
sliminess
and
the
height
that
it
represents.
C
We
certainly
did
not
want
to
try
to
compete
with
that,
because
it's
such
a
rich
architectural
heritage,
but
we
did
want
to
be
part
of
that
language,
and
so
every
move
that
made
at
our
portions
in
the
building.
So
then,
we
really
driven
around
trying
to
emphasize
that
slenderness
and-
and
we
started
with.
C
C
We
tried
to
create
a
sort
of
a
sculptural
form
that
kind
of
steps
down
emphasized
with
this
same
view
and
the
sloping
form
back
here
and
ultimately
reinforced
by
both
these
vertical
stripes
that
we
believe
will
shimmer
in
the
skyline,
reinforcing
that
the
slenderness
and
the
elegance
of
the
towers,
as
well
as
a
number
of
key
kind
of
details
here
that
will
that
will
also
reflect
that
and
then
at
nighttime
it's
there's
a
lighting
plan.
That's
going
to
be
overall
massing
in
the
sculptural
form
of
the
buildings.
C
That'll
be
very
legible
across
the
sky.
So
in
summary,
we
really
thought
it
was
important
to
reinforce
a
concept
that
is
driven
by
sort
of
an
elegance
and
an
urban
sophistication
as
simplicity
and
something
that
would
both
reinforce
that
traditional
weapons
to
the
architectural
heritage,
but
wouldn't
dominate
that
as
well,
and
it
would
complement
it
and
reinforce
it
and
he
ends
up
creating
those
sorts
of
Dickens
in
the
skyline.
Now,
having
said
that,
here,
we
are
in
the
process
of
working
with
we
DLP,
and
we
look
forward
to
that.
Conversation
evolve
and.
B
Actually,
there
are
staff
afterwards,
but
I
am
looking
forward
to
seeing
some
kind
of
architectural
discussion
around.
This
come
come
back
to
us
at
some
point,
because
it
is
it's
it's
a
critical
building
that
is
so
much
taller
than
anything
else
that
we
have
in
the
city,
and
you
know
when,
when
the
world
is
looking
at
Ottawa
on
their
television
screens,
I'd
like
this
to
be
distinguishable.
Well,
maybe
a
little
more
workaday
consideration.
There
is
significant
flexibility
being
built
into
the
amendment
where
and
forgive
me
I'm
probably
going
to
get
this
wrong.
B
The
sixty
five
storey
tower
is
only
permitted
in
area
a
the
zoning
or
the
amendment
would
allow
in
B
and
C
of
flipping
of
the
56
and
the
27
storey
tower
I.
Guess
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
around
that.
Why?
Why
don't?
We
know
that
at
this
point,
when
it's
been
brought
for
approval,
why
do
we
need
that
flexibility
and
what
is
the
different
effect
on
the
neighborhoods
around?
If
those
do
end
up
getting
flipped.
C
Thank
you,
the
the
idea
of
allowing
that
flexibility
is
a
notion
that
came
up
from
my
last
you
TFP
session
and
there's
a
couple
of
couple
of
design
advantages
that
may
be
brought
forward
in.
In
that
larger
discussion
and
flipping
the
towers
on
the
south
edge
you're
kept
on
the
northwest
corner.
The
tallest
building
will
stay
there.
Now
programmatically,
you
have
an
office
tower
and
residential
tower.
C
What's
consistent
with
all
three
and
in
your
engine
is
the
tower
separation?
So
that's
not
an
issue,
but
the
idea
is
that
in
switching
the
tube,
you
may
start
to
break
down
some
of
the
the
overall
mass
of
the
three
buildings
collectively
that
you
might
be
able
to
further
stretch
or
reposition
the
towels
on-site
to
create
some
more
space
between
and
improve
sight
lines
as
well,
given
their
unique
shape
of
a
site.
C
If
we
were
to
consider
an
office
tower
on
these
side
and
take
advantage
of
that
Flatiron
shape,
you
may
be
actually
see
the
sculpting
of
the
office
tower
so
to
going
to
build
on
the
prominence
of
that
that
unique
geometry
of
the
site,
so
those
are
ideas
that
were
expressed
by
the
UD
ap.
We
wanted
to
build
in
that
excavating.
The
zoning
bylaw
and
as
Sean
and
Paul
has
mentioned.
Let's
that's
kind
of
a
discussion
of
what
we
would
like
to
see
happen.
May.
B
I
ask
John
because
they
said
there
has
been
that
thought
put
into
the
interface
with
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
What
would
it
need
to
switch
those
around
from
the
from
the
initial
concept
plan
that
I
believe
sees
the
twenty
seven
storey
tower
in
the
south
west
corner
or
parcel
B?
What,
if
that
were
switched
over
to
the
other
side?
How
would
it
integrate
differently
with
the
existing
community.
C
The
need
to
have
significant
services
access
into
the
building
has
driven
the
location
of
the
that
access
point
on
the
low
side
of
the
slope
and
that's
located
underneath
the
the
center
stream
that's
up
above
so
if
we
were
to
take
those
two
towers
and
swap
them
on
the
opposite
from
one
side
to
another.
It
wouldn't
necessarily
change
that,
but
it
may
bring
an
opportunity
to
reconfigure
some
of
the
amenities
services
that
come
on
down
and
access
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
until
we
started
designing
it.
But
but
it's.
B
Using
a
really
significant
consideration
where
the
27
goes
and
will
be
56
goes.
Is
it
premature
to
be
making
a
decision
on
rezoning
today
with
a
known
that
madam
chair
just
the
way,
the
zoning
its
built-in,
with
the
the
flexibility
and
its
before,
obviously
for
committee
importance
abut
the
way
it's
established
now,
the
way
the
three
towers?
It's
it's
planning's
position
that
this
is
an
appropriate
development
for
the
site
and
as
well
if
it
was
to
be
turned
around
the
other
way.
B
B
C
B
Know
I
would
note
that
there's
significant
great
difference
between
the
end
of
Hintonburg
and
these
surfaces
are
depth.
You
can
see
it
I
think.
The
comment
is
based
more
on
what
the
best
side
of
the
the
upper
tower
looks
like,
which
I
did
you
need
me.
Do
so
there's
a
significant
great
difference
from
the
the
other
side
of
the
tracks.
On
the
west
hand,
side
it
goes
down.
Does
it
and
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
you're
pointing
out
at
the
podium
level,
is
invisible
to
the
residents
in
unison
burg?
C
Right
yeah
cut,
sir
I
understand
the
question
now,
so
the
the
residential
units,
an
office
tower
assad's,
are
looking
this
way
in
the
upper
level.
Here,
though,
of
the
podium,
this
is
a
a
highly
programmed
and
active
space,
with
lots
of
landscape
planting
and
as
well
as
outdoor
seating
area.
So
II
see
this
as
being
a
space
with
a
lot
of
activity
occurring
in
this
assignment.
I.
B
B
B
How
long
that
affordability
might
be
guaranteed
for
what
some
of
the
legal
mechanisms
would
be
in
place,
motor
in
sugar?
It
stays
affordable.
How
far
along
those
that
path
have
you
gone
and
I
am
interested
in
the
mechanics
specifically
because
this
is
going
to
keep
coming
up
and
we'll
begin
with
it
this
afternoon,
on
Nelson
as
well.
D
A
D
Yes,
Thank
You
chair
so
depending
on
whether
this
passes
here
today
or
not,
or
what
changes
we
make
certainly
going
forward
tomorrow,
high
level,
as
I
mentioned,
a
motion
to
redirect
the
450,000
from
the
section
37,
that's
already
in
place
that
would
be
going
towards
a
community
garden
fund
and
a
park
fund
for
for
the
ward
I
will
have
a
specific
motion
on
affordable
housing
to
ensure
that
it
is
a
trailer
for
today
and
family
units.
I
will
want
a
motion.
I
haven't
decided
yet
motion
and
direction.
D
Dealing
very
specifically
with
the
south
side.
Loading
zone.
I
think
that,
as
long
as
that
loading
zone
is
in
place,
we
will
never
have
an
animated
Society.
We
will
make
the
very
same
mistake,
as
somebody
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
did
at
home.
Class
I
will
have
a
motion
to
remove
the
surface
parking
on
the
southeast
side,
and
my
directions
will
be
at
the
new
intersections
that
the
level
of
service
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
are
a
top
level
of
service
direction.
Actually.
D
D
So
we
can
discuss
how
that
might
look
and
last
election
I'll
be
giving
tomorrow
will
be
with
respect
to
the
tall
tower
subcommittee
after
it's
been
QD
I
appear
in
the
tall
tower
subcommittee
that
it
actually
come
back
to
committee
and
council
so
that
the
dailies
to
ensure
that
whatever
is
bit
here
is
architectural,
a
significant
and
that
tag
event
just
allow
a
building
that
has
no
significance
to
in
terms
of
the
architecture.
So
those
in
kind
of
broad
sense
are
the
missions
and
directions
that
I
expect
to
bring
back
tomorrow
or.
C
C
D
A
A
B
C
B
Ahead
and
was
the
counselor
involved
in
the
in
the
distribution,
the
450
which
I
acknowledge
she
wants
to
see
change
and
the
525
for
the
housing
fund.
That's
those
are
the
discussions
we
have
with
the
world
office.
Okay
and
and
I
recognize
that
you
aren't
that
450
to
be
reassigned
and
what,
if
it's
reassigned,
what
happens
to
the
design
and
construction
of
that
pedestrian
cycling,
overpass,
video
train
I.
We
think.
B
C
B
I'll
just
say,
madam
chair,
with
respect
to
the
bridge
there
was,
there,
was
450,000
right
now
and
for
this
for
the
section
37
in
the
secondary
plan.
There's
only
another
point
in
fifty
thousand
that
when
city
centers
developed
to
propose
a
bridge,
that's
all
the
money
as
though
there
was
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
that
bridge.
B
There
was
nothing
else
so
that
money
would
have
had
to
come
over,
say
future
section
37
we
identified
as
something
that
could
be
done
through
development
charges
or
something
that
to
counsel
delays
our
money
for
capital
funds,
something
like
they
did
for
the
Hickory
Street
bridge.
So
but
there
is
no
there's,
no
real
money
actually
to
construct
that
bridge
today.
This
was
to
design
and
partially
construct.
Does
that
partially
a
bridge
in
jeopardy?
B
B
So
the
bridge
not
really
because
it
never
really
had
much
to
start
with
as
I
mentioned
money
would
need
to
come
from
us
or
of
a
capital
funder
or
to
be
raised
somewhere
else
through
the
proposed,
as
is
so
long-term
no
but
still
is
viable
as
it
was,
is
just
lost
more
than
fifty
thousand
that
so
it
was,
it
was
a
drop
in
the
bucket
to
construct
that
bridge
got
it
and
I
guess.
The
last
question
is:
can
you
give
us
any
guidance
on
when
city
center?
Is
there
any
plan?
B
C
See
Center
has
been
engaged
to
this
most
recent
application
and
the
previous
report
that
came
in
2012
and
there's
no
immediate
plans
for
them
to
start
to
advance
their
development
project
there,
where
the
proposal,
but
there's
there's
no
active
engagement,
ongoing
construction
program
for
city
centers.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
A
B
A
Know
so
I
mean
I
need
to
stop
that.
Are
they
thinking
so
that
well,
as
we
know,
and
councilman
Kenny
and
I
have
a
good
meeting
yesterday
for
45
minutes
or
something
talked
about.
The
connectivity
of
the
Gladstone's
coming
there's
be
more
baby.
The
Frank
Tom
Brown
arena
by
enzmann
confront
them,
but
Tom
Brown
arena.
All
those
pieces
they'll
all
be
part
of
the
jigsaw
puzzle
right.
So
there's.
B
That
goes
from
the
escarpment
through
to
tönnies
pasture
as
a
particularly
I
think
that
kind
of
mirrors,
the
the
the
size
of
the
geography
that
we
identified
for
area,
specific
development
charges
in
the
Corning
Preston
plan,
and
that
relates
you
to
one
of
the
questions
that
I
have
first
for
the
section
37.
Can
you
tell
me
how
much
was
originally
calculated
in
terms
of
the
value
of
the
uplift
and
then
how
much
was
it
was
taken
down
to
through
draw
downs,
I.
C
Don't
have
the
data
in
funding
for
that
scenario,
but
what's
important
to
note
about
the
data
one
Albert
file
at
the
time
is
that
this
was
outside
of
formal
City
process
for
section
37
draw
downs
and
we
approached
DCI
Tennison
told
them.
We
wanted
to
do
a
section,
37
type
of
grant
for
this
site,
given
the
uplift,
so
they
voluntarily
agreed
to
enter
into
that
negotiation,
and
we
came
to
the
settlement
that
you
see
today
in
19
of
the
bylaw
that
I
outlines
those
contributions
for
section
37.
That.
B
C
B
So
you're
not
prepared
today
to
tell
us
what
the
initial
calculation
of
the
uplift
value
was
and
then
how
that
how
that
would
have
been
negotiated
in
whichever
direction
that's
information.
We
can
provide
okay,
I'd
be
interesting
to
take
a
look
at
that
one
and
forgive
me
who
has
had
a
complicated
development
history.
What
with
the
the
infrastructure
moves,
etcetera?
What
will
this
project
generate
in
terms
of
development
charges?
B
Okay,
madam
chair,
the
development
charges
are
about
20
million
and
I
through
the
bounty
roads
program
they'll
get
to.
They
have
an
exemption
of
about
seven.
Okay,
so
is
about
21
million
so
that
we
will,
the
city
will
get
through
development
charges
from
this
I
mean
if
I
could
ask
you
tomorrow
to
or
sometime
there
before
the
the
under
date
today
or
before
midnight
I'd
be
interested
in
the
breakdown
of
those
DCs.
How
much
for
recreation
facilities?
How
much
for
libraries,
how
much
for
fire
power,
etcetera
all
right,
madam
Church,
Thank,
You
ppreciate
event.
C
B
That
would
be
done
it
through
the
site
plan
process
anyway.
So,
okay,
yeah,
it
would
of
would
be
probably
about
the
residential
well
most
likely
up
to
10%
of
the
value
of
the
land
and
the
commercial
is
2%
of
the
value
of
the
land.
So
it's
a
combination
thereof,
so
it'll
depend
on
what
went
there
when
Cleo
does
a
basil
for
us
through
the
site
plan.
Okay,
the
let's
say
that
the
the
caption
lives,
probably
with
the
at
least
a
couple
of
million
there's
21
million
dollars
available
from
from
development
charges.
B
B
Maybe
I'll
chat
with
with
the
senior
staff
in
with
the
counselor
to
see
what
might
be
possible
in
that
point,
because
plant
pool
keeps
coming
up
and
one
of
my
biggest
problems
might
fully
agree
with
Councilman
Kenney.
Is
you
don't
learn
how
to
swim?
You
don't
have
seniors
classes
in
the
private
pool.
The
private
pool
is
generally
a
private
amenity
space.
We
need
a
new
one
to
serve
the
residents,
the
center
town
end
of
Hinton
Bergen.
There
might
be
an
opportunity
here
to
try
to
funnel
some
money
into
something.
That's
more
geographically.
B
B
B
There
is
no
provision
right
now
for
any
step
backs
at
all
its
own
for
the
entire
area,
so
we
get
65
stories
for
sector
a
27
could
be
etc,
etc.
Yet
the
community
divine
plan
CDP,
is
very
clear
and
our
own
highlights
guidelines
that
we
just
passed
a
council
a
month
ago
are
very
clear
on
the
importance
of
step
backs
at
certain
Heights
and
so
for.
For
example,
in
this
case,
we
have
in
the
CDP
that
four
buildings
taller
than
12
stories,
minimum
step
back
of
6
meters-
should
occur
after
the
six
story.
B
Minimum
setback
of
6
meter
should
occur
after
it
secures
and
then,
if
you
look
at
another
spot
in
the
CDP,
we
have
very
important
reference
to
the
fact
that
the
CDP's
design
policies
take
precedence
over
these
guidelines.
In
the
case
of
any
inconsistencies
due
to
the
CDP's
grounding
in
the
specific
local
context,
so
I
mean
it's
very
important
and,
having
heard
how
extensive
the
CDP
work
was,
my
question,
the
staff
is:
why
aren't
the
step
backs
noted
in
the
proposed
zoning
schedule.
C
If
you
look
at
the
end
it
thank
you
for
the
question.
First
off
from
the
underlying
zoning
is
a
mix
MC
zone
and
it
had
very
permissive
performance
standards
and
often
zero
requirements
for
for
setbacks,
but
I
think
in
the
larger
scale
and
the
design
of
this
there
was
direction
and
response
taken
from
the
baby
station
district
secondary
ana
talked
about
having
an
appropriate
building
transition
and
constraining
those
that
strong
pedestrian
scare,
the
human
scale
podium
along
the
Albert,
Street
frontage
and
particularly
along
the
east,
and
we
do
you
see
a
significant
overall
setback.
C
I'd
call
it
in
from
the
eastern
edge
of
their
low
as
community
to
tower
C,
which
is
the
56
Jerry
tower.
That's
about
75
meters.
So,
yes,
it
is
not
prescribed
in
the
zoning
bylaw,
but
through
the
extensive
design
sessions
and
the
additional
sessions
to
come.
Where
the
notion
of
finally
detailing
or
advancing
that
that
podium
and
tower
design
concept
would
be
the
advanced
and
refined,
and
that
would
therefore
address
that
concern
and
the
Somoza
urban
design
guidelines
for
that
proper
relationship.
When
you're
putting
a
tall
tower
on
a
podium.
B
I'm
mr.
ratio
area,
we
understand
the
need
for
wood
step
backs
to
and
what
they
do
create
with
respect
to
design
and
as
mr.
deco
has
said,
to
me
that
possessing
the
tall,
the
tall
building
design
review
panel
to
create
a
create,
a
situation
where
you
do
have
sort
of
relief
to
end
up
with
a
sort
of
a
tower
and
podium
situation.
There
creates
basically
an
interesting
facade
at
the
street
level,
both
along
the
long
Albert
Street
and
also
along
the
in
the
back
when
viewed
by
members
or
pedestrians.
B
So
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
refine
that
and
define
that
and
I
guess
in
a
it,
creates
an
ability
to
move
the
towers
around
by
just
saying
that
you
have
a
tower
in
this
section
and
through
the
processes,
as
I
mentioned,
for
their
urban
design,
you'll
create
a
situation
that
would
meet
the
intent
of
the
power
of
the
well.
It's
not
in
the
policy
direction
they
live
is
found
in
the
commune
design
plan.
B
So
so,
given
a
very
clear
direction
in
the
CDP
and
I
appreciate
that
the
towers
may
move
along
within
the
specific
areas,
given
the
very
specific
direction
in
the
CDP,
why
not
establish
a
6-meter
step
back
about
the
sixth
story,
podium
throughout
the
areas
where
you're
going
to
have
more
than
12
stories?
Is
it
because
you
plan
on
the
mooring,
the
CDP.
C
It's
not
the
first
I
was
only
a
three
story-
protein
that
there
it
goes
in
here.
So
there
is
no
six
story
on
that
podium
to
step
back
because
the
CDP
suggests,
but
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
is
the
balance
and
it's
largely
influenced
by
the
programming
of
of
the
entire
site,
which
is
a
mixed-use
podium
sitting.
Atop
two
residential
towers
in
an
office
tower,
so
I
have
the
many
other
projects.
C
How
about
discussion
on
where
to
set
back
such
a
bill
and
at
what
level
and
a
lot
of
it
is
contextual
response
and
then
the
problem
with
the
program
in
the
overall
project,
which
is
those
dudes
slender
towers,
rising
from
a
human-scale
podium.
So
the
you
know
the
architect
is
hasn't-
has
left
their
map
the
conversation.
But
that's
that's
a
lot
of
the
influence
into
the
whole
design
of
the
project.
C
B
Take
your
colleagues
who
work
on
the
CBP
make
a
mistake,
and
it's
right
here.
The
intent
I
think
in
the
communities
I'm
plan
is
to
create
the
the
street-level
a
podium
that
is
as
a
sort
of
a
public
identity,
one
that
is,
that
not
necessarily
has
to
be
done
through
a
specific
setback
or
step
back
at
a
specific
level,
but
occurring
animation
and
activity,
and
you
create
a
livable
environment
at
the
ground
level
and
I.
B
Think
it's
important
business
for
the
oculus
said
and
I
would
say
not
to
be
confined
or
strictly
related
to
having
to
do
something
specific
that
is
in
the
communities.
I
planned
that
wasn't
necessary
actually
in
the
existing
zoning
today,
which
is
a
regulation
but
to
create
that
situation
at
the
ground
level,
as
cancer
McKinney
has
said,
which
is
the
variant
is
what
happens
there
and
they're
having
a
step
back
or
having
a
setback
they're
having
different
methods
of
creating
transition
that
create
that
they
grounded
level
experience.
B
That
is
a
positive
experience,
and
if
it's
not
exactly
six,
you
know
that
certain
906
meters
or
whatever
the
step
back,
is
you're
still
trying
to
create
that
good
ground
experience.
So
I
wouldn't
say
that
they
made
a
mistake.
There
is
direction
too,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
create
that
activity
and
separation
of
power
and
podium,
and
it
could
be
done.
Two
different
means
is,
as
I've
mentioned,
there's
simply
negative.
Look
at
a
total
building
design
review
panel.
B
Okay,
just
a
couple
of
points
in
that
perspi,
it's
not
just
in
the
CDP.
It
wasn't
trying
in
the
secondary
plan,
so
the
step-back
requirements,
I'm
looking
at
them
right
now,
are
in
the
secondary
plan.
This
is
about
step
backs,
but
it's
sort
of
not
about
step
backs.
It's
about
the
casualness
with
which
I
interpret
the
staff
are
treating
the
CDP
and
the
secondary
plan
and
I
guess
you
know
at
the
heart
of
this.
What
I'm?
What
I'm
covered
with
is.
B
B
In
this
case,
mr.
Lee's
chair
are
choosing
to
ignore
that
very
specific
guidance
which
we've
now
stated
specifically
in
this
document
we
said-
and
this
has
precedence
over
the
larger
general
guidelines,
because
it's
locally
specifically,
but
also
given
that
the
proposal
also
violates
the
highways
guidelines
which
we
just
passed.
B
Ax
is
a
small
thing,
but
I
would
say
it
gets
to
the
very
heart
of
the
pedestrian
experience
around
that
that
that
site
and,
moreover,
it
indicates
a
certain
view
and
philosophy
about
how
the
CDP
in
the
secondary
planner
being
treated.
But
let
me
move
on
to
my
next
question,
which
is
a
question
related
to
recommendation
three
of
the
proposal
before
us
and
so
staffer,
suggesting
that
we
recommend
that
council
consider
this
report
at
its
meeting
tomorrow.
B
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
why
I
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
a
holding
provision,
putting
up
Adamo
zoning
I
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
more
work
with
the
you
DLP
wiper,
a
project
of
this
importance
and
this
significance
we
not
provide
the
work
councilor.
It
sounds
like
there's
going
to
be
some
back-and-forth
on
a
whole
series
of
motions
which
we
haven't
seen
yet
sounds
like
the
opportunity
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
that.
Why
our
staff
recommending
that
we
deal
with
this
tomorrow,
as
opposed
to
the
normal
course
of.
A
D
Chair
the
because
of
the
break
that
councils,
taking
the
a
big
break
we
just
felt,
is
for
customer
service
purposes
that
we're
providing
all
reports
at
this
planning
committee's
agenda
when
we
forward
to
Council
tomorrow,
it's
kind
of
in
named
keeping
those
that
we
do
traditionally
this
time
of
year.
Just
because
of
that
break.
It
was
just
about
that.
It's
not
very
fair
to
the
applicants,
but
they
make
that
a
big
pipe
just
became.
A
So
I,
just
let
everybody
know
that
that
promise
counselor
Dean's
comes
from
this
fun.
I
promise
counselor
jeans
that
before
we
break
the
lunch,
so
we
won't
be
breaking
for
lunch
until
after
we
deal
with
Hawthorn,
okay
and
then
we'll
come
back
for
a
lot
of
other
stuff.
So
anybody
who
is
here
for
anything.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
sure.
Well
I
was
actually
actually
going
to
deal
with
the
recommendation.
Number
three
issue
as
well,
because
I
can't
think
of
them
of
a
weaker
reason
to
deny
the
public
the
opportunity
to
comment
in
the
intermittent
period
between
committee
and
council
than
just
the
fact
that
we
have
a
great.
Therefore
it
would
seem
under
two
to
the
developer.
B
To
the
point
where
just
about
every
item
on
today's
agenda
is
going
to
be
picked
to
counsel
the
very
next
day
and
what
I
would
like
to
know
is:
didn't
everybody
realize
when
the
committee
meetings
were
scheduled
and
didn't
everybody
realize
when
the
council
meeting
was
scheduled
and
when
you
have
an
item
of
this
importance,
why
would
you
not
insure
it?
That's
the
committee
two
weeks
earlier
or
some
other
configurations,
so
there
isn't
only
a
20-hour
breathing
period
between
the
initial
approval
and
the
end.
The
council
approval.
That's
the
question.
Okay,.
A
So
it's
no
different
that
we
do
every
July
meeting
so
and
I
I
quote
share
this
with
you,
because
I
actually
asked
for
as
far
as
all
the
meetings
and
everything
in
the
community
participation
to
aside
your
fears
that
people
don't
know
I
think
we
had
good
representation
from
the
community,
which
is
my
opinion
and
I'm
going
to
isolate
that
item.
So
you
can
vote
on
it
separately.
Okay,
okay,.
B
So
because
I'm
telling
you,
when
I
got
to
this
committee
meeting
I
come
here
to
hear
the
evidence
and
I
didn't
do
a
whole
lot
of
evidence
against
the
height
I
was
kind
of
surprised.
I
did
a
lot
of
evidence
about
other
concerns,
so
I'm
not
even
saying
I
would
vote
against
the
project.
But
what
I'm
saying
is
I
am
committed
to
the
principle
that
people
should
have
that
breathing
period
between
committee
approval
and
Council.
Okay,
so
on
the.
B
C
C
B
A
B
That's
right:
yeah,
no,
but
I
had
some
additional
questions
up.
Just
those
are
going
to
be
passed
on
further
to
cancer
reapers
questions,
so
yeah
I
guess
I
can
just
wrap
up
at
this
stage
and
say
that
you
know
I.
Think
that's
really
important
for
me
for
this
output
is
the
notion
that
again
and
again
around
this
table
that
in
cases
where
we
don't
have
secondary
plans
and
we
don't
have
CDP's,
we
recognize
the
gaps.
B
Sometimes
it
was
easier
to
look
at
spot
zoning
in
the
absence
of
those,
because
we
could
look
to
the
general
Official
Plan
and
had
to
look
at
the
principles,
but
in
this
case
I
think
is
really
important
to
remind
ourselves
that
council,
within
the
last
five
years,
has
passed
the
secondary
plan
in
the
CDP
specifically
for
this
site.
That
has
a
number
of
really
important
on
elements.
Some
relating
to
height,
some
relating
to
step,
backs
some
relating
to
public
realm
and
I.
B
Don't
think
it's
unfair
to
say
that
many
of
those
have
not
been
respected
in
this
application
and
that
we,
why
I'm
worried
about
that?
Is
that
I'm
not
sure
moving
forward
that
when
residents
ask
me
about
you
know
the
value
of
the
secondary
plan
or
the
value
on
a
CDP
I
will
be
able
to
tell
them
with
confidence
that
them
participating
with
the
volunteer
hours
and
that
process
is
going
to
give
them
the
certainty.
B
The
predictability,
the
kind
of
real
based
approach
for
a
particular
area
that
they
may
think
they're
getting,
and
we
sort
of
often
tell
them
they
will
when
we
talk
about
a
secondary
plan
and
so
I
voted
in
favor
throughout
the
the
Karlin
Preston
application,
because
I
noted
that
we
had
planned
for
that
there
was
expectation
management
with
local
residents.
In
this
case,
there
is
no
expectation
management.
In
fact,
the
city,
by
doing
a
very
good
job,
I,
would
say
an
excellent
job
on
the
CDP
in
the
secondary
plan
five
years
ago.
D
Grabba,
thank
you
on
the
cell
unclarity
first
on
the
site
plan
control.
When
this,
when
this
comes
back
to
site
plan
and
we
start
lifting
the
holding
provisions,
you
had
responded
to
cancer
shoe
le
that
the
ward
council
would
have
an
opportunity,
then
to
lift
delegated
authority.
And
so
can
you
just
tell
us
exactly
what
that
means.
So,
if
councillors
delegated
authority,
let's
say
the
councillor
that.
D
B
There's
really
three
things:
I
suppose,
there's
two
Holdings
one
is
for
the
tall
buildings,
the
other
ones
for
affordable
housing
and
site
plan.
Of
course
you
can
be
delegate
authority,
so
you
can
with
mobility
your
authority,
because
those
are
all
three
of
those
are
done
at
the
staff
level.
So
by
requesting
that
it
be
come
to
committee,
it
would
come
back
here
to
be
to
be
discussed
again
and
they'll
perform
the
public
forum
to
debate
what
has
been
determined
and
it
has
been
decided
to
meet
the
merits
of
it.
A
And
so
cancer,
for
example,
say
that
you
go
through
the
process
of
the
site
plan
mature,
absolutely
already
thinking
about,
and
we
decided
K
I
like
what
I
see,
then
you
can
release
your
delegating
Authority
and
it
doesn't
come
back
here.
However,
in
a
lifting
delegate
authority
doesn't
give
you
the
right
to
tie
it
up
till
whenever
miss
Neven,
for
example,
has
the
delegated
authority
to
take
away
that
lifting
and
had
to
come
back.
Since
you
asked
the
question
I,
don't
know
that
everybody
knows
that,
but
what
lifting.
D
D
D
You
know,
I've
said
it
before
many
times.
Height
is
neither
good
nor
bad.
Now,
what's
the
difference
really
between
45
stories
and
65,
it
depends
on
what
happens
on
the
ground,
and
you
know
what's
happening
here
on
the
ground
is
not
good.
You
know,
we've
got
four
sides
and
none
of
them
are
as
animated.
D
It
did
not
call
it
the
45
stories
and
it
didn't
call
for
30
plus
and
of
course,
council
is
supreme,
and
we
can
you
can
bring
any
recommendation,
I
recommend
in
30
plus,
or
you
know
above
the
CDP,
but
what
the
secondary
plan
calls
for.
But
the
fact
is,
it
was
very
clear
in
the
secondary
plan
that
30
stories
was
the
limit.
D
What
was
also
very
clear
is
that
that
southside
be
animated,
and
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
I
am
NOT
looking
for
separation
from
transport
trucks
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
what
I'm
looking
for
and
what
the
community
has
always
look
for,
and
then
they
articulate
in
what
they're
looking
for
is
a
reason
to
you.
That's
outside
we
are
going
to
have
maybe
2,000
new
neighbors
here
in
this
development
and
good
thing,
we
actually
got
that
I
went
to
thousand-year
neighbors,
but
I
want
to
meet
them.
D
I
want
my
kids
to
play
with
their
kids
I
want
to
you
know,
as
as
we
all
age
I
want
to
hang
out
with
them.
We
are
never
ever
going
to
meet
each
other,
we're
never
going
to
bring
their
kids
to
a
loading
zone
to
do
that
under
any
circumstances.
We're
not
going
to
use
that
pathway
beetle
eyes.
There's
nothing!
D
There's
nothing
drawing
us
to
that
pathway,
but
even
if
we
did
we'd
walk
by
each
other,
we
have
got
to
build
communities
that
integrate
it's.
Okay,
to
build
the
downtown
and
it's
okay,
it's
a
good
thing
to
put
in
the
amount
of
density
that
we're
looking
for
here
all
along
this
corridor.
If
and
when
it
happens,
but
as
it
is
happening,
the
other
happens
slowly,
it
happens
quickly.
D
We
have
got
to
consider
how
we
are
going
to
live
together,
how
we
are
going
to
how
we
are
going
to
take
swimming
lessons
together,
how
you're
going
to
know
where
we're
going
to
hang
out?
What
are
we
going
to
do
and
that
south
side
I'm
telling
you
they
never
ever
give
us
the
opportunity
to
meet
our
neighbors?
D
But
it's
going
to
happen
on
this
now
landing
on
record,
because
I
might
come
back
in
20
years
and
say:
I
told
you
so
what's
going
to
happen
here,
is
drivers
are
going
to
come
in
they're
going
to
park
they're
going
to
go
up
and
down
to
where
they
need
to
go
they're
going
to
come
back
that
on
talbot
and
they're
going
to
leave?
I
don't
know
how
many
people
know
albert
street
very
well,
but
it
is
not
a
welcoming
area.
There's
nothing
out
there.
D
It
would
be
great
with
the
new
transit
station
and
that's
all
very
exciting,
and
there
would
be
nothing
on
it,
but
albert
is
never
going
to
give
in
place
where
we
live,
where
we
gather
it
will
never
be
a
public
square.
That
same
side
has
got
to
be
a
public
square.
We
are
going
to
develop
city
center.
We
are
going
you
to
develop
down
a
trillion
line
as
we
should,
but
we
have
got
to
make
sure
that
it
is
public
space
and
integrated,
and
on
top
of
that
we
need
affordability,
everyone
to
live
here.
D
D
A
Today,
everybody
did
counsel
weep
in
particular,
so
on
this
item,
I'm
going
to
divide
it
up
so
under
difficult
one
and
two
together,
the
discipline
and
zelicah
zoning
amendment
900
Albert
Street,
that
the
planning
committee
recommend,
council,
cave
I,
know
more
the
technical
amendment
I'll,
do
it
in
a
minute
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
for
900
Albert,
permit
an
increase
in
height
and
mix
use
and
implementing
zoning
bylaw
amendment
not
procedure
to
City
Council
until
the
agreement
under
Section
37
of
Planning
Act
is
executed
by
the
applicant.
That's
big
number
two.
A
That
planning
committee
approve
the
consultation.
Do
you
know
this
is
just
like,
so
you
agreed
the
fact
that
people
can
open
spoke
today.
Right,
that's
just
a
part,
that's
always
part
of
it.
So,
but
first
of
all
we
have
the
technical
amendment
from
vice-chair
tuning
that
he
already
has
some
introduced.
Okay,
so
on
the
technical
amendment
carry
so
now
we'll
go
to
the
well.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
vote
in
number
three
first,
because
that
makes
sense.
A
So
number
three
is
that
Planning
Committee-
and
this
is
part
of
all
of
the
reports
today-
consider
this
report
as
meeting
in
Johan
July,
the
11th
pursuant
to
subsection,
35,
0.5
and
36.6
of
the
procedure.
Bylaw
2006,
2,
3,
7
7,
so
we'll
have
yeas
and
nays
on
them,
and
this
is
that
this
is
the
councilors
Sher.
Ali
does
not
want
it
to
go
that
history
does
not
want
it
to
go
to
cancel
tomorrow,
so
kill
the
brain.
A
So
this
is
just
number
three.
This
is
an
only
thing.
This
is
that
the
basically
court
goes
to
counts
as
well.
Yes,
Thank
You
counsel,
barking,
since
I'm
here,
counselor
sure
le
well,
counselor
couch
a
yes
come,
sir
Hughley
council
leader
no
concern
miss
Bunn,
no
counselor
Kadri
with
Vice
Chair
Channing,
yes,
myself,
yes,
63,
okay
and
then
on
items
one
and
cheese.
A
B
A
Sir
Kimberly
Kelso
pitch
day,
yes,
Kelsey
hubely
come
Suri,
play
no
cancer
in
this
bone,
no
cancer
Kadri
with
baser
chanting.
Yes,
yes,
72!
Okay!
Thank
you
much!
Thank
you
very
much.
Everybody
that
came
up
today
and
well
I'm
sure
that
some
of
you
comes
up
much
more
because
we'll
have
more
to
say:
okay,
Noah.
You
expect
that
we're
going
a
promise,
sir
counselor
jeans,
that
we
would
go
to
the
Hawthorn
item
right
now,
and
we
have
a
speaker
will
say
this
is
the
item.
The
zoning
bylaw
amendment
3500,
Hawthorn
Road
after
this.
A
So
if
you're
not
here
for
Hawthorn
Road,
feel
free
to
take
a
break
until
let's
say
1:30.
Okay,
let's
go
wild.
You
know,
give
us
more
time
because
you
never
know
if
all
the
elevators
or
any
of
them
are
working,
how
you
would
actually
get
we're
not
done
yet.
We
have
to
do
more
than
other
areas.
I
know.
So
you
don't
know
how
long
okay.
A
A
Okay,
Cheers
I
got
a
headache,
so
this
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
3,500
Hawthorne
Road
I'm,
going
to
ask
Jared
Jared
cook:
please
come
up
and
take
the
seat,
though
everybody's
been
sitting
can
I
ask
everybody
else
to
please
go
out
in
the
hallway
and
have
your
conversation
and
Nancy
you're
going
to
want
to
speak
too
so
you'd
be
ready
to
come
up
right
after
that
and
then
councillor
Dean's
is
here.
Thank
you
for
coming
councillor,
Dean's,
okay.
So
this
is,
as
only
about
amendments.
A
B
So
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentleman,
my
name
is
Jared
cook
I'm,
a
resident
at
33
Fox
10th
place,
so
my
backyard
basically
backs
on
to
3,500
Hawthorne,
a
I'm
hoping
to
I
am
opposing
the
rezoning
to
35
1/2,
a
road
for
several
reasons.
One
where
we
live
is
a
very
family-oriented
community,
very
family-oriented
neighborhood.
A
quality
of
living
will
be
negatively
affected
from
this
due
to
the
amazed,
light
and
olfactory
pollution
having
a
fast-food
franchise
drive-through
in
our
backyard,
everyone's
property
and
land
value
is
likely
going
to
go
down
three.
B
There
is
already
many
fast
food
franchises
nearby,
as
well
as
other
gas
stations,
including
one
on
the
opposite
corners
on
the
airport
and
four.
There
are
also
concerns
increase
accidents
in
the
area
at
this
already
very
busy
intersection
of
Hawthorne
and
Hunt
Club
on
amp
to
the
Queensway,
these
continuing
I'm,
hoping
to
effect
change
here
today.
I
was
initially
deterred
from
the
attending
this
meeting,
because
I
was
told
that,
once
this
reached
the
resilient
committee
that
it
was
likely
he'll.
B
B
I
was
pulled
aside
during
this
meeting
and
told
that
it
is
now
going
to
be
a
second
cup
like
that's
can
make
a
big
deal
the
number
of
cars
idling
in
the
driveway
beyond
the
yard,
though
children
were
playing
back
there,
it
doesn't
not
mention
the
franchise's
change
over
time
doesn't
mean
if
it
starts
out
second
cup,
it's
going
to
remain
that.
Secondly,
I
noted
a
few
things
in
the
discussion
here
one.
It
said
that
in
our
first
meeting
we
had
about
30
attendees
and
that
was
in
June
30
attendees.
B
Then
in
February
7th
we
had
six
attendees
or
the
worst
snowstorms
of
the
year.
So
that
is
why
there
was
always
six
attendees
I
give
died
in
being
a
let's
determine
it.
Before
my
I
took
a
survey
of
the
I
got
a
petition
yeah
a
petition
signed
of
the
majority
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhood,
including
a
number
who
were
not
in
attendance
at
finding
as
doctors
why
they
signed
the
petition.
So
that
being
said,
you
know,
I
looked
through
the
report
and
it
says
things
like
risk
management,
there's
no
implications.
Well.
B
What
about
the
accidents
that
are
already
prevalent
at
that
intersection?
In
now
we're
going
to
put
a
second
entrance
onto
an
ADA
calmer,
going
on
100-kilometer
coming
off
of
the
Queensway.
It
says
financial
implications
and
the
financial
implications
at
all.
It
says
that
a
lot
of
these
concerns
have
been
addressed.
Well,
they
will
addressed
that
out
their
address
satisfactory,
and
so
in
that
sense
you
know,
and
one
of
the
things
noted
in
our
questions.
B
Although
a
number
will
gone
through
a
you
know,
the
property
value
is
never
adjust,
so
there's
a
financial
implication
waiting
after
the
people
setting
up
the
things
up
for
the
rest
of
us
in
the
neighborhood.
It
certainly
is
especially
some
glossy.
This
is
our
precise
one
minute
children
so,
and
that
is
to
the
things
that
is
on
the
any
other
points
on
the
last
page.
I
think
that's
all
I
really
wanted
to
put
in
there
yeah
that's
about
it.
A
B
D
My
name
is
Nancy
Milosh
I'm,
a
planner
with
best
in
tech
and
I
have
with
me
so
bill
Nihao,
who
is
the
owner
of
the
property
at
3,500,
Hawthorne,
Road,
I,
think
just
to
just
to
set
the
stage
in
terms
of
the
current
zoning
for
the
property.
The
zoning
on
this
property,
which,
and
you
can
see
on
the
the
plan,
is
situated
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Hawthorne
Road
and
hunt
Club.
So
it's
a
very
busy
intersection
and
the
current
zoning
permits
a
gas
bar
on
this
site
as
well
as
a
car
wash.
D
So
that
can
be
done
as
of
right
when
mister
B
Hall
acquired
the
property.
His
desire
has
been
not
to
do
the
car
wash,
but
instead
to
provide
for
a
small,
fast
food
component
as
well
as
a
drive-through,
and
that's
what
led
us
to
the
zoning
amendment.
Application
was
the
Commission
for
fast
food
and
drive-through.
Conveniences
is
also
a
Nazarite
permission
up
to
120
square
metres,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
that
this
is
a
site
that
already
has
pre-existing
zoning
and,
in
my
opinion,
as
a
planner,
is
quite
appropriate.
D
So
our
concern
in
dealing
with
the
community
are
in
this
area
was
primarily
those
residents
on
Fox
10
who
about
the
the
fence
line
that
is
adjacent
to
this
property,
so
there's
some
12
to
14
homes
that
that
would
have,
but
the
fence
line.
So
before
we
even
went
to
a
first
public
meeting
and
I
have
to
say:
we've
had
a
very
fulsome
consultation
process
here.
Mr.
D
B
Hall
and
I
actually
went
out
door-to-door
met
with
the
those
residents
because
as
the
impact
so
immediate
on
to
them-
and
we
talked
to
them
about
the
issues
before
the
first
public
meeting
and
as
mr.
cook
mentioned,
there
were
about
30
people.
At
the
first
meeting
we
had
a
good
discussion
of
the
issues
and
then
at
the
second
meeting
we
had
in
the
winter
we
had
about
six
six
residents
that
were
out
and
again
we
had
a
good
discussion.
Mr.
D
B
Hall
and
I
actually
went
out
in
just
again
in
the
last
month
and
met
with
residents
door-to-door,
so
I
think
we've
really
come
to
terms,
in
my
opinion,
with
the
issues
and
those
issues
are
contained
in
the
planning
staff
report.
I
think
quite
well
and
I'll
just
very
quickly
highlight
them
that,
in
addressing
concerns
in
the
final
plan
that
the
Tulane
Drive
aisle
has
been
reduced
to
one
lane,
so
we
tightened
up
a
guat
through
the
drive
through
reducing
the
amount
of
noise
and
any
coming
from
vehicles.
D
The
width
of
the
landscape
buffer
was
increased.
We've
got
about
six
meters
of
landscape
buffer
along
the
rear
of
this
property
abutting
the
resonances
to
the
west
garbage
containers.
We
dealt
with
that
they've
been
placed
up
closer
to
the
road
well
away
from
the
residential
area.
Pedestrian
access
has
been
improved
and
there
was
a
noise
study
that
was
conducted
as
part
of
this
application
for
site
planning.
D
Zoning
and
the
noise
consultants
were
satisfied
that
the
existing
fence,
which
is
about
ten
feet
high
running
along
the
perimeter
of
the
property,
would
be
sufficient
to
deal
with
the
with
the
uses
that
are
proposed.
So
I
believe
that
those
are
really
my
comments.
In
my
opinion
and
I've,
a
planning
staff
agree
with
that.
I
know
they
agree
with
that.
The
other
Sublette
an
appropriate
use
for
this
property
and
I
think
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
A
C
Madam
chair,
so
in
this
particular
site,
Drive
Thru
was
not
permitted
all
the
history
on
on
why
this
particular
site,
but
it
is
premier
in
the
genomics
juice
in
general
joy,
trees
and
why
it
was
its
a
supported
by
staff.
Knowledge
of
permit
the
drive
through
here
is
a
number
of
reason.
I
think
the
staff
report
goes
through
it
Nancy
described
as
well
is
the.
C
B
B
C
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
as
your
competitor
shades
and
when
this
is
a
residential
neighborhood,
but
it's
about
in
quite
busy
arterial
roads
and
you
know
in
filling.
It
is
like
this
into
this
neighborhood
as
I
was
challenging.
All
of
us
who
represent
suburban
areas
know
that
it's
difficult
to
put
in
use
with
the
drive
through
behind
homes
and
their
challenges
in
doing
that.
So
in
this
particular
case,
we
started
out
when
the
applicant
first
came
to
see
me
and
told
me
they
wanted
to
move
ahead.
D
With
this,
we
started
out
with
a
pre
consultation
with
the
Community
Association
and,
following
that
I've
hosted
two
public
meetings.
As
we
look
through
the
process,
and
we
looked
at
the
concerns
that
the
community
raised
originally,
they
would
to
drive
through
lanes.
There
was
garbage
at
the
back
of
the
side
at
the
remember
of
issues
concerns
with
the
operation
of
the
intersection
or
telephone
club
and
hypoa
mode,
and
as
we
worked
through
those
issues,
and
we
have
the
two
public
meetings,
additional
ism
is
melash
noted
shave
outdoor
today
with
the
applicant
to
personal
address.
D
D
So
the
remember
things
that
made
it
more
available,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
all
that,
with
the
consultant,
door-to-door
and
Fox
10-
and
we
knocked
on
the
doors
at
the
end
of
the
process,
to
ask
the
residents
most
impacted
if
they
would
were
supportive
of
this
application.
At
that
point,
and
not
everyone
was
home
that
we
did
talk
to
many
of
the
residents,
the
back
onto
the
neighborhood,
and
they
all
told
me
that
they
were
satisfied
with
the
application,
and
so
you
know
when
they
went
through
the
process.
D
They
changed
the
goal
page
into
those
grand
Malick's
that
are
less
intrusive.
They
included
a
smoke
channel
at
the
intersection
of
Concord
and
heartful
and
they
reduced
the
drive
through
and
I.
Think,
on
balance,
the
person
the
community
association
in
Hyde
Park,
told
me
about
the
association
was
satisfied
that
the
applicant
has
gone
along
with
to
address
the
community.
Now
mr.
cook
took
the
day
off
work,
so
you
can
see
that
you
know
he's
passionate
about
this,
and
you
know
all
of
us
I
think
sympathize
with
that.
D
If
we
backed
onto
it,
you
know,
would
probably
prefer
that
it
not
be
there,
but,
as
the
uppercut
pointed
out
as
well,
where
we
have
ours
and
rate
a
carwash,
and
so
you
know,
I
can
ask
myself
that
I
will
ever
have
a
second
cut
or
a
coal,
because
that
really
is
the
challenge
right
and
on
balance,
I
think
I
agree
with
the
majority
of
the
community.
That
I
think
accepts
that
this
is
probably
the
best
use
for
the
site,
so
that
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
support
it.
My.
B
A
And
I
don't
have
no
idea,
oh
yeah
cause
you're
afraid
of
it
can
the
pedestrians
that
are
all
going
to
be
walking
across
the
street.
There
again
take
a
drive
out
because
you
wouldn't
want
to
say
no,
maybe
you
could
cycle
you
could.
Probably
you
probably
could
it's
pretty
fun
that
you
could,
because
you
know
what
there's
this
yet
we
think
this
would
likely
work
and
then
you
could
get
there,
but
then
you'd
actually
see
the
lay
of
the
land.
I.
Think
that's
important
too
I
think
councillor.
Deeds
has
addressed
the
residents
very
well.
A
Thank
you.
So
we
had
to
register
dissents.
Thank
you.
Alright.
So
we're
gonna
take
a
break.
Now,
unfortunately,
it
didn't
I
wasn't
as
nice
as
I
tried
to
be
remember,
I
said
1:30,
so
we're
you
know
just
to
continue
my
lateness.
Let's
come
back
at
1:40
right,
like
I
said
you
never
know
whether
the
elevators
are
working
or
I
might
change
your
decision
away
even
eat.