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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management – 15 December 2020
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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management
– 15 December 2020 – live meeting stream.
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
All
right,
so
it's
9
31,
so
welcome
to
the
13th
meeting
of
the
term
for
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
just
get
I'll
just
get
quest
chris
to
run
through
a
quick
roll
call
and
then
we'll
start.
The
meeting
very.
A
A
A
D
Good
morning
chair,
thank
you
for
having
us.
Jen
brown
will
deliver
the
question
and
then
we
have
we're
joined
by
mike
fletcher,
also
in
the
room
with
us
today
for
questions
as
they
arrive.
E
Please,
so
staff
are
recommending
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
that
council
one
receive
the
annual
status
update
on
the
climate
change
master
plan,
including
the
2019
ghg
emissions
inventories
attached
as
document
1
and
updates
on
the
8
priority
actions,
as
summarized
in
this
report
and
and
2
approve
administrative
amendments
to
the
climate
change
master
plan
attach
this
document
to
and
as
outlined
in
this
report.
Next
slide,
please
in
january
of
this
year,
which
feels
like
a
while
ago.
F
E
So
if
we
start
with
the
ghg
inventories,
the
city
undertakes
two
types
of
inventories
on
an
annual
basis.
Community
and
corporate.
The
latest
inventories
are
for
the
2019
calendar
year.
Now
this
slide
focuses
on
the
results
of
the
community
inventory.
Community
inventories
track
admissions
associated
with
activities
taking
place
within
the
geographic
boundaries
of
ottawa,
and
it's
tracked
in
four
areas:
buildings,
transportation,
waste
and
agriculture.
E
In
2019,
roughly
90
percent
of
our
emissions
in
ottawa
came
from
the
buildings
and
transportation
sectors,
and
this
has
been
a
trend
since
2012..
If
you
look
at
the
largest
contributing
source
of
emissions
within
the
community,
natural
gas
is
the
largest
contributor
followed
by
gasoline
and
diesel
next
slide.
E
The
largest
contributing
municipal
center
in
2019
was
fleet,
which
accounted
for
63
of
total
corporate
emissions,
of
which
48
was
attributed
to
transit
fleet
directly
correlated
is
the
largest
contributing
emission
source,
which
is
diesel
accounting
for
a
little
over
half
of
total
emissions
in
2019,
the
corporation
accounted
for
roughly
four
percent
of
total
city-wide
emissions,
but
it
has
been
estimated
estimated
by
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
that
municipalities
influence
over
half
of
half
the
sources
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
within
the
community.
Next
slide.
E
So
how
are
we
tracking
towards
ottawa's
targets,
starting
again
with
the
community
community
emissions
have
decreased
12
since
2012
2012
being
the
baseline
year
for
the
targets.
This
decline
in
emissions
remains
primarily
attributable
to
the
previous
benefits
received
from
the
provincial
phase
out
of
coal
plants
and
ontario
having
one
of
the
cleanest
electricity
systems
in
north
america.
E
E
So
some
of
the
key
achievements
in
2020
that
supported
the
advancement
of
these
priorities
include
last
june
council
received
the
local
climate
projections
for
the
national
capital
region,
a
critical
piece
of
the
climate
resiliency
work
that
offers
a
clear
understanding
of
how
ottawa's
climate
is
expected
to
change
in
the
coming
decades.
The
next
phase,
the
vulnerability
and
risk
assessment,
has
been
initiated
and
is
planned
to
be
completed
in
2021.
E
in
october,
council
unanimously
approved
the
final
energy
evolution
strategy,
the
framework
for
what
it
will
take
for
ottawa
to
achieve
its
targets.
The
strategy
identifies
the
action
and
investment
required
over
the
coming
decades
and
it
identified
20
projects
to
be
undertaken
in
the
short
term.
A
spending
plan
to
invest
the
2.6
million
hydroauto
dividend
surplus
was.
E
Last
month,
the
draft
official
plan
was
released
and
shared
on
engage
ottawa
and
both
climate
change
mitigation
and
adaptation
policies
are
embedded
throughout,
and
only
last
week,
council
carried
the
midterm
governance
review
report,
which
approved
adding
a
new
climate
implications
section
to
the
standard
committee
and
council
report.
Template
staff
anticipate
that
the
news
section
will
appear
in
report
templates
early
in
the
new
year
next
slide.
E
E
Also,
more
than
210
000
of
external
funding
was
secured
to
support
implementation
of
energy
evolution
projects.
This
includes
130
000
from
nrcan
for
the
installation
of
26
electric
vehicle
chargers
at
12
locations
in
the
city's
right-of-way
and
one
location
at
a
park
and
ride
installations
will
begin
in
2021
melissa
received
a
little
over
82
000
from
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
to
fund
a
biogas.
Optimization
study
staff
have
also
submitted
five
additional
funding
applications
and
eight
letters
of
support
to
continue
to
encourage
private
action.
E
An
example
of
a
pending
funding
decision
is
whether
we
were
successful
in
securing
a
5
million
grant
and
a
10
million
dollar
loan
from
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
to
launch
a
better
homes.
Loan
program
this
program
would
help
cover
the
cost
of
home
energy
improvements
through
a
local
improvement
charge
mechanism.
E
We
also
established
an
internal
tiger
team
to
support
the
implementation
of
the
climate
change
master
plan,
and
this
tiger
team
comprises
of
all
general
managers,
the
chief
financial
officer,
the
city's
man,
the
city
manager's
office
and
ottawa,
public
health
and
finally,
the
climate
change.
Council
sponsors
group
met
three
times
over
this
past
year
to
provide
guidance
on
relevant
initiatives
such
as
energy
evolution.
E
E
The
administrative
amendments
do
not
affect
the
ghd
mission
reduction
targets
or
any
of
the
eight
priority
actions
already
approved
by
council.
If
approved,
staff
will
use
the
final
approved
text
and
prepare
a
graphically
designed
climate
change
master
plan
in
both
english
and
french
to
post
on
ottawa.ca
climate
change
in
early
2021.
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
jen
appreciate
that
it
couldn't
help
but
notice
the
the
piece
in
there
on
the
the
transit
just
to
show
the
transit
impact
and
from
a
diesel
perspective
on
the
on
on
the
source
side
and
then
to
to
that
just
that
that
overall
impact
of
of
buses
and
of
course
we
had
the
announcement
yesterday
about
the
acquisition
of
of
four
electric
buses.
A
I
saw
a
lot
of
really
super
productive
feedback
on
twitter
before
I
muted
the
entire
conversation
and
can't
repeat
most
of
the
things
that
were
said,
but
no,
it
was
really.
It
was
really
great
when
you're
tagged
in
a
in
a
tweet
from
catherine
mckenna.
A
The
feedback
is
really
phenomenally
productive,
but
ultimately,
I
think
the
you
know
the
focus
on
the
actual
acquisition.
I
know
that
counselor
committed
to
trying
to
get
to
two
electric
buses
as
part
of
a
pilot
project
having
four
will
allow
us
to
explore
that
further
investigate
that
further,
I
think,
while
the
upfront
cost
is
significant,
I
think
we
know
that
these
types
of
things
generally
do
cost
more
on
the
upfront.
The
ongoing
operating
will
be
will
be
quite
reduced
compared
to
compared
to
diesel
buses,
but
then
also
we
as
the
market
demand
shifts.
A
We
also
know
that
the
value
of
the
buses
will
shift
downward
as
well
and
will
become
more
affordable
when
we
look
at
renewing
the
fleet
over
the
coming
years.
So
we'll
move
straight
to
our
delegations
before
we
go
to
members
of
committee
and
other
members
of
council
who
are
here
with
us
today,
beginning
with
angela
keller
herzog.
B
Okay,
here
we
go,
can
you
hear
me.
H
So
you're.
B
H
I
think
you've
brought
up
the
pdf
chris,
so
while
this
is
happening
first
of
all,
let
me
thank
you
counselors
for
calling
this
meeting
according
climate
change
enough
importance
that
we
should
have
a
whole
environment
committee
meeting
on
it.
That's
appreciated
and
the
fact
that
you've
all
come
out
this
morning
is
also
very
much
appreciated.
H
H
I
have
a
presentation
today
in
three
parts,
looking
at
the
emissions
report
looking
at
whether
we
are
on
track
and
then
also
having
some
suggestions
regarding
the
way
forward
regarding
the
emissions
report,
do
you
need
me
to
send
you
the
presentation
again
chris
or
we
can?
We
can
do
the
pdf
version
and
just
have
fine
print
to
squint
at.
H
Okay:
okay,
let
me.
A
G
Hi,
hello,
so
yeah,
my
name
is
elise,
I'm
a
mother
of
three
and
I'm
a
part
of
for
our
kids
ottawa
getno,
and
so
I
represent
a
group
of
about
400
parents
who
are
very
worried
about
about
climate
change
and
we're
very
also
frustrated
to
try
and
get
our
counselor's
attentions
on
climate
change
and
that
nobody
it
feels
like
nobody
is
really
listening,
because
I
was,
as
I
was
listening
to
the
presentation
from
city
staff.
G
Like
I
read
that
an
achievement
in
2020
20,
it
was
securing
an
extra
two
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
in
grants,
and
that
doesn't
feel
to
me
like
an
achievement.
It
feels
to
me,
like
it's
a
proof
of
the
very
little
attention
and
funding
that
this
issue
is
actually
getting
at
a
city
hall
and
so
we're.
G
We
want
you
to
lead
on
this
and
just
like
covet.
We
want
like
yeah,
we
just
like
coveted.
We
want
you
to
lead
and
communicate
on
on
this
issue.
The
city
needs
to
be
working
towards
the
best
interests
and
of
the
people
in
the
world
and
for
those
I
feel
like
for
those
that
complain
now.
I
think
they
will
thank
us
later
when
the
world
is
not
three
degrees
hotter.
G
So
that's
really
what
I
wanted
to
say
like
we're
like
just
like
the
announcement
that
justin
trudeau
made
last
week
about
the
carbon
tax.
G
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
just
see
if
any
questions
from
members
of
committee,
I
see
none
at
this
point.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
for
your
time
out
here
today
and
your
advocacy
appreciates
appreciate
that
chris
do
we
have
are
ready
to
go
on
the
correct
presentation.
B
H
Okay,
so
here
we
are
thank
you
for
being
here
next
slide,
please
and
we
can
skip
over
the
cafes
introduction
slides
next
slide.
H
So
three
part
presentation
next
slide,
please
so
for
the
emissions
report.
Cafes
is
extremely
grateful
to
have
this
data
and
to
have
annual
reporting
it.
We
also
welcome
that
this
will
be
available
on
the
open
data
platform,
which
is
a
recommendation
that
we
probably
made.
Actually,
I
know
we
made
it.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
two
or
three
years
ago,
so
in
the
fullness
of
time
and
the
fullness
of
the
moon,
things
do
come
through.
So
this
is
good.
H
There's
a
lot
more
going
on
with
carbon
than
the
very
rudimentary
basic
methodology
that
we
have
right
now,
and
we
feel
that
it's
very
important
to
have
this
data
for
evidence-based
public
policy,
which
is
what
you
folks
are
in
the
business
of
doing.
We
hope
the
effectiveness
of
climate
action,
that's
to
say,
knowing
these
metrics
and
measuring
things
allows
us
to
prioritize
and
put
the
focus
on
where
it
actually
matters
and
then
also
on
the
advocacy
and
the
public
interest
work
that
ngos
and
others
do.
It
allows
the
targeting
of
advocacy.
H
So
this
is
all
good
stuff
and
we're
very
happy
to
see
this
report
yeah
next
slide.
That's
the
one
with
the
railroad
track.
So
the
question
is:
are
we
on
track?
This
is
where
I'd
love
to
have
the
real
committee
meeting
and
I
could
face
you.
Look
you
in
the
eye
and
I
think
the
question
the
answer
to
are
we
bending
the
emissions
curve?
The
answer
is
no
next
slide,
please.
H
H
So
for
emissions,
which
is
the
physics
of
the
matter,
the
emissions
are
rising
and
then,
if
we
look
at
the
climate
effort-
and
I
think
that
there
we
could
use
the
metric
of
dollars
for
our
comparative
data,
as
we
saw
at
the
last
meeting
and
as
we
discussed
at
the
last
committee
meeting,
we
are
seeing
in
budget
21
that
their
climate
is
not
a
priority
and
we
are
not
seeing
funding,
and
I
would
like
to
echo
what
probably
at
least
the
speaker
from
the
community
before
me
said
more
powerfully
than
I
can,
because
I'm
like
a
regular,
I
read
all
the
reports
it
like.
H
If
you
look
at
the
numbers,
even
someone
from
the
committee
that
hasn't
reviewed
all
these
reports
can
see
that
the
effort,
the
prioritization
of
climate
is
not
yet
here
at
city
of
ottawa
budget
next
slide,
please.
H
So
what
are
some
ways
forward?
So,
as
usual,
we
have
some
suggestion
for
you,
so
we
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
stick
with
evidence-based
policy
making
and
again
the
fact
that
we
are
able
to
develop
metrics
for
the
climate
test,
for
example,
that
staff
were
talking
about.
This
will
be
very
useful,
integrating
more
of
the
metrics
of
climate,
that's
to
say
the
co2
based
and
the
climate
targets
into
the
official
plan.
H
I've
also
made
a
somewhat
heroic
effort
to
try
to
read
the
official
plan,
which
I
think
is
much
harder
to
read
than
like
the
bible.
It's
it's
it's
a
piece
of
work.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
counselors
have
tried,
but
it's
a
formidable
undertaking
to
try
to
read
that
document
and
make
sense
of
it.
H
I
think
we
should
try
to
translate
the
evidence
into
carbon
budgets
to
guide
action
and
again
we
need
to
very
much
look
for
metrics
and
tools
at
the
at
the
capital
asset
management
policy
level
at
the
project
level,
so
that
we
can
manage
what
we
can
measure
next
slide.
Please
then,
the
second
point
and
there's
three
points
here
on
the
way
forward.
Thinking
I
think
part
of
leadership
is
that
we
need
to
make
emotional
and
symbolic
connections
the
way
it
works
right
now.
H
I
can't
see
all
the
counselors
here,
but
if
councillor
fleury
is
here,
he
will
see
that
this
is
a
picture
of
an
electric
zamboni
which
I
think
has
been
one
of
his
ways
to
make
the
connections
in
the
past
so
just
like
covet
19
climate
is
a
collective
action
problem
and
local
government
needs
to
lead
and
we've
very
much
done
that
for
covet
19..
H
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
leadership,
more
engagement
efforts
on
the
climate
file,
so
we
need
to
connect
energy
retrofits
with
new
social
housing
investments
we
need
to
electrify
fleets
and
that
announcement
that
scott,
you
pointed
to
that's,
hopefully
the
beginning
of
a
bigger
set
of
change.
We
understand
it
was
very
difficult
to
take
this
first
step
and
to
get
there,
so
that's
fantastic.
H
I
applaud
it
and
also
importantly,
we
need
to
stop
investing
millions
in
fossil
fuel
infrastructures
that
lock
us
into
a
high
carbon
path
and
future
for
the
lifetime
of
those
assets
and
in
the
cases
of
roads.
That's
a
really
long
lifetime
right.
That's
like
a
lot
of
potholes
into
the
infinite
future
to
fix
for
roads
that
we
probably
don't
don't
need
to
be
widening
next
slide,
please!
H
So
the
last
point
here
is:
we
also
needed-
and
this
comes
from
the
members
of
cafes.
We
need
to
bring
it
to
the
community
level
so
that
climate
action
can
work
for
everybody.
We
need
to
bring
it
down
to
practical
things
that
people
can
relate
to
there's
a
recommendation
to
also
improve
the
city
of
ottawa
website
so
that
it
has
practical
information
for
practical
needs,
maybe
not
offering
to
give
puppies
to
people
but
having
questions
answered
that
are
relevant
to
people's
lives,
bringing
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure
also
to
rural
areas,
for
example.
H
If
seniors
want
to
continue
living
there
and
not
having
a
massive
carbon
footprint,
we
need
it
there
too.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
the
announcement
that
we
got
some
nrcan
nickels
and
dimes
to
start
that,
and
also
connecting
again
the
urban
green
space
and
gardens
to
keep
inner
urban
livability
despite
intensification
and
doing
the
but
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
canopy
targets
so
that
we
can
break
the
urban
heat
islands
and
people
can
relate
to
these
things
and
we
need
to
connect
these
things
to
our
climate
fight
next
slide.
H
I
think
the
next
slide
is
just
a
thank
you
counselors
for
your
attention.
I
hope
you
all
get
a
break
over
the
festive
season.
I
think
we've
all
been
working
hard.
I've
been
attending
a
lot
of
these
budget
committees
and
seen
you.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
that
you
do
for
your
awards
and
for
the
city.
I
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thanks
angela
for
for
being
here.
I
just
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
personally,
because
you
attend
these
a
lot
and
you
have
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
you
give
specifics
and
you
push
us
in
the
right
direction
and
offer
you
offer
ideas
and
concrete
suggestions
which
is,
which
is
what
we
need,
and
it's
very
very
helpful
to
have
your
input
on
for
for
years
now.
So,
thank
you
for
your
dedication.
I
I
guess
my
question
to
you
would
really
be
around.
You
know
your
deep
knowledge
that
exists
now
and
the
municipal
climate
issues
that
and
actions
that
we
see,
and
so,
if
you
had
you
know
one
or
two
or
three
holiday
wishes
that
you
would
like
to
see
accomplished.
What
would
those
wishes
be.
H
Oh
boy,
well,
this
is
a
treat
so
thank
you,
counselor
menard,
for
for
allowing
me
to
have
christmas
climate
wishes.
So
under
my
climate
tree.
What
would
I
like?
Well
I'd
like
to
see
some
concrete
action?
I
think
that
that
we
understand
that
that
the
way
that
the
municipality
works
is
through
bureaucratic
machinations
right,
but
if
we
look,
if
we
look
back
to
the
slide,
that
told
us
what
is
the
2020
steps
forward
in
action?
H
And,
yes,
we
agree
that
the
the
climate
team
works
extremely
hard,
but
we
haven't
actually
seen
any
of
those
20
projects
result
in
in
in
being
presented
and
coming
to
to
fruition.
So
I'm
hoping
that
for
2021,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
see
action
and
again
the
pilot
buses.
Like
that's
the
first
sign
of
a
little
bit
of
action.
I
think
another
thing
that
would
be
fantastic
is
a
lot
of
time.
The
the
the
responses
right
that
we
get
is
well.
H
H
So
if,
if
some
other
level
of
government
came
along
and
said,
oh,
we
want
to
give
tax
rebates
for
properties
that
are
energy
efficient,
like
the
municipalities,
would
freak
out
right,
saying
like
what
what
what
what
other
levels
of
government
wanting
to
get
involved
with
with
property
taxation.
That's
like
our
domain
stay
awake
so
and-
and
I
think,
if
we
look
at
the
municipal
emissions,
the
highest
emissions-
and
this
is
where
the
evidence
base
comes
in
right-
is
coming
from
the
heating
of
buildings.
H
So
so
there's
actually
like
huge
potential,
very
much
within
reach.
If
people
had
the
courage
and
the
the
gumption
right
to
start
reaching
for
those
kinds
of
connections
so
yeah,
so
I
think
that
there's
tools
that
are
underutilized-
and
I
think
that
we've
started
talking
about
it.
The
energy
evolution
report
is
good,
but
but
there
could
be
breakthroughs
there
and
and
last
point.
H
If
I
have
three
wishes,
I
guess
yesterday
we
had
a
meeting
with
wendy,
steffensen
and
they're
at
the
very
early
start
of
thinking
about
climate
finance
and
what
the
architecture
and
the
structure
for
that
would
look
like
and
haven't
really
gone.
H
There
there's
some
work
at
fcm,
so
I'm
hoping
that
the
coming
governance
work
that
is
happening
will
include
innovative,
sustainable
finance
right
because
to
make
things
go
if
we're
stuck
in
terms
of
not
having
the
architecture
and
the
structuring
and
the
financial
facility
to
blend
money,
to
bring
grants
and
loans
and
long-term
lending
and
low
interest
rates
and
make
all
that
stuff
work.
Sort
of
like
like
the
kind
of
things
that
edc
does
for
the
federal
government
right.
H
We
can
do
these
things
at
municipal
level,
but
we
have
to
get
our
act
together.
You'd
have
to
get
a
couple
of
ftes
and
there
has
to
be
championship
and
leadership,
so
that
would
be
another
great
thing
to
find
under
my
climate
tree.
So
thanks
sean
for
that
question.
I
guess
you
weren't
expecting
that
much
stuff,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
again,
there's
so
much
potential
and
opportunity
at
the
at
the
local
municipal
level
to
to
get
going.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
counselor
and
thank
you
angela
again
for
being
here
today
in
your
presentation,
so
I'll
now
move,
there's
no
more
questions
for
other
counselors.
So
so,
thanks
again
I'll
move
to
our
third
speaker,
which
is
charles
nixon.
J
Yes,
here
I
am
making
sure
I
was
unmuting
properly.
Thank
you
very
much
counselors
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
today.
My
name
is
charles
nixon,
I'm
a
retired
federal
senior
public
servant
and
I'm
affiliated
with
c3,
and
I
have
a
deep
interest
in
the
environmental
climate
change
file.
J
I
would
like
to
start
out
by
giving
my
thanks
to
the
city
for
all
the
hard
work
that
has
gone
into
this
year,
producing
a
climate
change,
master
plan,
the
climate
emergency,
the
climate
evolution,
sorry,
the
energy
evolution
plan,
and
I
also
look
forward
to
the
adaption
and
resiliency
plan,
which
is
the
second
boot.
If
you
shoot
for
drop
for
the
for
the
climate
action
plan
for
next
year,
it's
a
huge
endeavor
that
the
city
is
undertaking,
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
2020.
J
I
didn't
appear
today
to
know
that
I
might
be
given
a
wish,
but
I
guess
this
is
my
presentation
is:
is
my
wish,
because
the
city
does
have
a
huge
plan
that
is
is
emerging
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
it
is
is,
is
founded
well
about
how
it's
going
to
move
forward?
Yes,
we
do,
have
you
know
the
energy,
you
know
the
ghg
targets
and
the
report
that
was
presented
for
you
today,
but
it's
not
entirely
clear
how
that's
going
to
happen.
J
J
So
I
wanted
to
speak
to
how
the
city
might
establish
themselves
to
achieve
the
reduction
20
50
targets
going
forward,
I'm
proposing
that
each
committee
of
the
city,
as
appropriate,
be
given
a
ghg
reduction
target
by
this
committee
and
those
those
that
those
are
the
ones
that
have
a
direct
responsibility.
I
mean
angela
talked
about
roads.
There
you
go,
there
are
also
committees
that
have
an
indirect
responsibility
for
enabling
that
includes
planning
and
finance
and
and
so
forth
procurement.
J
All
of
these
have
an
indirect
implication
for
how
this
work
could
get
done,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
them
being
engaged
in
this,
so
that
the
load
is
being
spread
from
the
nexus
of
a
small
group
of
people
supporting
this
committee
to
engage
the
full
power
of
the
city
to
drive
forward
the
achievement
of
these
plans.
J
Second
of
all,
as
with
the
the
climate
action
plan,
you
know,
committees
would
be
asked
to
prepare
a
supporting
five-year
plan
that
would
outline
their
work
and
that
they
would
be
asked
to
prepare
progress
reports,
and
these
could
be
rolled
up
by
this
committee
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city
in
the
same
way
that
we've
seen
a
report
today
on
the
ghg
use
in
2029
committees
could
also
examine
current
spending,
and
I
think
we've
alluded
to
that.
That
was
alluded
to
as
well.
J
J
J
Lastly,
I
do
support
that
leadership.
Engagement,
communications
outreach
are
massively
required
and
we're
only
beginning
to
see
the
importance
of
this,
and
I
I
ask
you
to
to
do
more.
There
are
people
out
there
crying
to
understand
how
they
can
engage
and
do
their
part,
and
I
think
they're
looking
for
leadership
from
the
city,
and
I
think
angela
pointed
out
a
number
of
areas
in
her
presentation
where
that
is
certainly
the
case.
J
I
wish
you
well
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
appear.
A
Thank
you
charles.
I
will
just
say
there
is
no
exclusivity
when
it
comes
to
this
committee
and
its
role
on
on
climates,
you
know,
climate
change,
master
plan,
isn't
this
committee's
master
plan?
It's
the
city
of
ottawa's,
climate
change,
master
plan
and
the
climate
resilience
unit
doesn't
work
for
this
committee.
They
work
within
the
planning,
infrastructure
and
economic
development
departments,
which
is
a
fairly
broad
group
with
the
city
they
work
for
the
entire
city.
A
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
they,
you
know
the
whole
point
of
some
of
the
things
we've
done
this
year,
including
that
the
climate
implications
lens
is
that
climate
initiatives,
climate
action-
is
not
the
sole
authority
of
this
committee,
but
belongs
everywhere
and
will
be
reflected
everywhere
in
in
all
those
reports
that
and
those
procurement
reports
that
you
that
you
refer
to,
because
that's
where
that's
where
it
belongs,
and
that's
what
this
council
has
has
said.
It
has
said
it
for
the
the
stage
for
for
going
forward.
A
Sorry,
councilor
menard
question
for
delegation.
I
Yes,
thanks
so
much
chair
and
I
do
agree
with
you.
The
plan
has
been
set.
I
We
have
a
fantastic
plan
and
that
took
a
long
time
to
get
to
we've
got
great
staff
working
on
that
plan
and
I
think
the
chair
is
right
when
he
says
you
know
all
departments
are
implicated
in
that,
and
I
agree
all
departments
need
to
contribute
to
that
piece
and
I
think
next
year
is
going
to
be
a
very,
very
big
and
important
year
for
us
to
to
to
start
implementing
those
actions
that
we've
set
out-
and
I
know
staff
have
that
on
their
on
their
to-do
list
as
well
and
pushing
that
forward.
K
I
And
not
do
it
right,
they
want
to
do
it
right,
and
so
that
does
take
some
time
to
make
sure
we
get.
We
get
that
right
and
I
understand
the
the
impetus
right
now.
Everyone
wants
us
to
be
pushing
hard
on
this,
and
that's
certainly
where
I
am.
I
You
mentioned
something
in
your
presentation,
mr
nixon,
and
it
was
around,
and
I've
heard
this
a
couple
times
now:
it's
around
hr
targets
and
sort
of
embedding
the
performance
targets
around
climate
change
within
senior
staff's
mandates,
and
I
and
maybe
chair.
If
I
get
asked
that
question
of
staff,
I
don't
have
to
do
it
now,
if
you
don't
want,
but
I
can
do
it
during
committee,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
I
Okay,
I
did
I've
heard
it
a
few
times
now,
and
so
I
just
was
wondering
to
to
staff.
Has
there
been
consideration
of
that?
How
does
it
work
right
now?
What
would
it
look
like
to
to
do
something
like
that
if
we
could
get
a
staff
response
on
that,
and
thank
you,
mr
nixon,
for
your.
D
I
Yes,
certainly
in
in
the
last
few
meetings
we've
we've
had
delegations
raise
the
the
issue
of
having
performance
targets
for
our
our
senior
staff
related
to
implementation
of
of
climate
objectives,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
been
consideration
of
that
in
the
city
does
it
does
it
work
like
that?
Is
that
even
something
that
we
could
we
could
do?
I
just
was
hoping
to
get
more
information
back
from
city
staff
about
about
that
option.
D
G
D
There's
a
lot
of
mechanics
to
think
through
on
what
that
might
look
like,
and
we
certainly
haven't
gotten
to
the
level
of
detail
around
assigning,
say
performance
measures
from
a
senior
management
perspective
we're
a
long
way
from
that.
We
first
need
to
start
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
allocate
a
carbon
budget
that
we
develop
through
energy
evolution
and
what
an
approach,
what
the
appropriate
means
of
doing
that
are
and
then
what
the
appropriate
measurements
and
implementation
plans
for
adhering
to
that
would
be.
J
A
Yeah,
thank
you
councilman
aaron.
Thank
you
andrea,
so
councillor
mckenny,
mr
nixon,
also
has
a
question
for
you.
I
believe,
or
is
it
for
staff.
A
Okay,
so
there's
no
further
questions,
so
I
appreciate
your
delegation
here
today.
Mr
nixon.
A
Problem,
thank
you.
So
we
will
now
go
to
questions
for
staff
from
members
of
council
and
we'll
start
with
councilor
mckinney.
F
Thank
you,
chair
thanks
staff.
Thanks
for
this
work,
I
know
it's
a
tremendous
amount
and
I
do
want
to.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
work
that's
been
done
over
the
past
year.
This
is
at
a
rate
that
we
have
not
seen
ever
at
the
city,
and
I
think
many
people
thought
we
wouldn't
see
this
this.
You
know
this
this
advancement
of
our
commitment
to
reducing
our
greenhouse
gases,
our
emissions,
both
in
the
community
corporate
emissions.
F
We
have
a
plan,
it
is
not
just
substantive,
but
it's
it
is
I
it
is
bold.
I
I
compared
it
to
what
montreal
released
this
past
week,
which
we
often
hold
up
as
as
an
example
and
and-
and
there
are
many
many
comparisons-
and
I
I
I
do
you
know
want
to
just
you
know
in
terms
of
the
this
committee
council
and
and
and
staff
in
particular.
F
I
want
to
want
to
acknowledge
that.
Having
said
that,
though,
we
do
know
that
a
plan
is
one
thing
and
you
know
the
actions
and
how
we
get.
There
will
be
the
difficult
part
of
you
know
reaching
you
know
a
hundred
percent
reduction,
especially
by
2050
of
that
community
jhg's.
So
I
just
wonder
what
staff
and
I've
I've
raised
this
before
and
I
guess
I'll
continue
to
because
it's
got
to
be
kept
on
that
that
front
burner.
I
mean
there.
F
There
are
many
things
we
have
to
be
thinking
about,
but
when
we
think
about
the
transportation
sector
and
the
you
know,
the
what
it's
responsible
for
44
of
community,
ghgs
and
and
our
own
transit
system
is
a
large
part
of
that.
F
So
we
have
within
our
purview
within
our
grasp
the
ability
to
significantly
reduce
greenhouse
gases
in
this
city
by
electrifying
our
transit
fleet,
and
it
is
one
of
the
priorities
that
was
that
was
identified
and
it's
and
it's
a
bold
one
and
I'm
just
not
sure
how
we
what
we
see
as
the
the
progression
for
getting
there,
and
I
just
like
to
hear
from
staff.
No
yesterday
we
had
an
announcement
that
you
know
we're
going
to
get
four
electric
buses,
but
that's
out
of
a
fleet
of
hundreds.
F
So
I
I
want
to
hear
from
staff
what
they
feel
is
the
progression
that
we're
going
to
have
to
take
in
electrifying
our
transit
fleet,
so
that
we
meet
that
priority
to
to
reduce
community
ghgs
through
our
transit
fleet.
K
Hi
thanks
thanks
for
the
question
counselor,
just
one
of
the
latino
transportation
services
staff
couldn't
couldn't
be
with
us
today,
but
yeah.
I
think
yesterday
was
a
big
first
step.
K
So,
as
we
know,
council
originally
approved
funding
of
six
million
dollars
to
purchase
two
battery
electric
buses,
and
then
we
found
the
additional
funds
to
purchase
two
more
so
we
will
have
those
four
battery
electric
buses
in
place
by
the
fall
of
next
year,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
allow
oc
transpo
the
opportunity
to
you
know
really
get
that
experience
with
their
operation
across
a
variety
of
route
types.
K
So,
as
you
know,
transit
commission
has
directed
staff
to
complete
a
study
of
alternate
alternative
energy
sources
and
the
transition
and
operating
costs
of
a
future
energy
source,
and
that
study
is
expected
to
be
complete
about
a
year.
From
now
also,
the
federal
government
has
announced
funding
support
for
raspberry
mission
buses
through
the
canada
infrastructure
bank
staff
are
in
discussions
with
tib
about
this.
K
so
really
there's
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
set
of
reports
or
a
consolidated
report
that
provides
you
know
the
information
and
recommendations
to
the
transformation
council
on
that
best
preferred
energy
source
and
the
technology
for
the
future.
K
So
what
is
the
recommended
plan
for
the
acquisition
of
buses
and
replacing
our
existing
fleet?
And
how
do
we
make
that
transition
from
the
current
to
the
future
fleet
during
all
the
financial
implications?
So
more
to
come?
It's
a
it's
a
first
step,
a
small
but
important
first
step
and
and
yeah
by
late
2021.
We
should
have
a
fully
explained
report
on
that.
F
Well,
thank
you
thanks
don,
I
appreciate
that.
I
look
forward
to
that.
F
I
know
that
I
think
it
was
an
inquiry
that
I
did
with
a
subsequent
report
almost
two
years
ago
that
you
know
asked
about
looking
at
a
pilot
for
electric
buses,
and
so
it's
I'm
always
aware
that
you
know
2050
seems
like
ways
off,
but
for
a
transition
of
you
know
to
you,
know,
remove
ghgs
in
in
our
community
and
and
and
and
corporately
it's
it's
tomorrow,
and
I
think
that
we,
we
really
have
to
think
about
this
with
the
urgency
that
that
it
you
know
it
deserves.
C
Thanks
chair
good
morning
to
you
and
colleagues
to
staff,
thank
you
for
the
report.
It's
very
good
to
see
this
and
very
good
to
see
the
annual
expected
reports
going
forward
the
20
climate
projects
that
the
city
has
identified.
Can
I
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
frequency
we,
as
the
committee
are
going
to
get
updates
on
their
progress?
Are
you
going
to
attempt
to
do
this
more
than
just
once
a
year
or
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
what
my
expectations
can
be
after
today
to
get
updates
on
these.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councillor.
The
the
plan
is
to
update
the
projects
on
an
annual
basis
as
part
of
this
type
of
annual
report.
So
there
are
the
eight
priorities
that
are
outlined
in
the
climate
change
master
plan.
One
of
those
priorities
is
energy
evolution.
Energy
evolution
includes
those
20
mitigation
projects.
D
Beyond
that
we
will
come
forward
with
reports
on
key
projects
when
decisions
are
required,
as
the
projects
are
further
developed
and
that
might
be
for
approval
of
updated
policies
for
the
launch
of
new
programs
or
the
finalization
of
programs
or
for
recommendations
on
advocacy
and
policy
changes.
We
would
want
to
bring
forward
to
committee
or
council,
so
the
whole
package
you'll
get
an
annual
update
on
the
eight
priorities
and
the
20
energy
evolution
projects
and
then,
throughout
the
year,
you'll
also
receive
updates
on
the
specific
projects
where
decisions
are
required.
C
What
your
perhaps
annual
objective
is
to
move
the
yardsticks
who
in
your
shop,
is
in
charge,
and
you
have
an
ongoing
ability
to
look
at
any
project
and
to
see
where
you
are.
As
far
as
progress
goes
and
I'd
like
to
see
something
more
than
just
annually
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
progress,
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
a
report.
C
It's
it's
almost
like
a
table
where
even
I'd
be
happy
at
the
halfway
point
of
the
year
and
to
say
here's
just
an
update
of
where
we
are
and
you're
going
to
get
the
details
in
our
annual
report
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
that's
just
a
way
for
me
to
make
sure
in
the
committee
that
we're
on
track.
That's
something
I'd
like
to
see.
C
I
think
it's
important
as
we
start
off
with
these
ambitious
plans,
we
have
perhaps
a
little
more
additional
focus
and
governance
early
on
to
make
sure
we're
on
it's,
not
a
statement
against
you
know.
I
know
that
your
team
is
extremely
strong
and
very
capable.
I'm
just
wanting
to
have
that
oversight.
So
that's
something
I
just
want
to
plant
the
other
suggestion
that,
as
you
know,
they're
in
the
south
end,
we
have
a
number
of
community
groups
ocean
and
the
woman
that
spoke
today
who
represents
the
families.
C
Suggestion
came
from
them
and
that
is
with
the
city,
consider
creating
an
online
resource
that
can
help
residents
homeowners,
tenants,
landlords
in
tips,
objectives
projects
they
can
do
to
reduce
their
ghgs
within
their
homes,
apartments,
their
communities,
everything
that
they
can
do
and
that
those
resources
are
shared
with
counselors.
We
use
them
throughout
the
year
earth
day.
Of
course,
in
the
spring,
can
you
just
explain
what's
available
or
what's
being
worked
on
in
that
regard?.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
We
we
agree
and
we
hear
this
request
on
a
regular
basis,
so
as
part
of
the
work
plan
that
I
think
you're
alluding
to
for
the
team,
there
is
a
communication
and
outreach
coordinator
who
has,
as
part
of
their
work
plan,
to
update
and
revamp
the
climate
change
website
from
the
city
of
ottawa
and
we've
been
blessed
by
fairly
detailed
feedback
from
members
like
charles
nix
that
the
group
that
charles
nixon
belonged
to
earlier
c3,
who
provided
some
detailed
feedback
on
that.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
exploring
through
that
process
is
something
like
a
dashboard
where
we
can
provide
a
bit
more
transparency
around
the
projects
that
we
are
working
on
and
where
they're
at
so
that
may
address
some
of
the
the
questions
you
have
related
to
sort
of
the
general
work
plan.
That's
going
forward
on
the
on
the
question
around
creating
an
online
resource
with
tips
and
projects
or
resources.
D
So
I
think
there
are
several
forums
and,
as
we
now
switch
into
implementation,
there's
there's
both
a
series
of
good
project
management
tools
and
skills
that
we
need
to
start
applying,
as
well
as
some
more
sophisticated
reporting
than
we
have
necessarily
done
to
date.
As
we've
been
developing
those
plans.
C
C
It's
opened
people's
eyes
to
other
ways.
The
community
can
get
involved
that
we
can
have
self-sustaining
activities,
not
just
community
gardens
but
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
people
and
associations
are
looking
at,
but
we
can
talk
offline
but
there's
some
stuff.
I
really
like
to
see
available
by
the
spring
if
possible.
C
My
last
question
chair
is
just
as
part
of
the
data
reported
in
the
report
on
page
19..
It
talks
about
in
2020
a
global
co2
emission
reduction
of
up
to
17,
which
is
quite
outstanding,
obviously
related
to
some
of
the
economic
downturn
and
the
transportation
networks
that
weren't
running
at
capacity
any
idea
in
ottawa.
E
Hi,
thank
you
for
your
question.
Counselor.
I
would
say
I
we
haven't
looked
into
the
raw
data
I
would
say
for
for
2020
and
and
what
the
implications
have
been
from
from
covin
and
the
impact
that
it's
had
on
on
all
facets
of
our
lives.
I
would
say:
observationally
I
mean
there's,
there's,
obviously
been
a
significant
disturbance
to
our
to
the
collective
energy
demands,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
government
and
high
tech
sectors
being
two
of
our
largest
employers.
E
They
are
more
flexible
in
terms
of
working
from
home,
which
would
have
then
an
impact
on
our
on
our
commutes.
How
we,
you
know
how
we
go
about
our
day
in
terms
of
also
buildings
being
shut
down
as
people
are,
are
working
from
home.
So
I
would
anticipate
that
for
for
20
for
the
2020
inventories
and
even
the
2021
inventory,
we
should
expect
to
see
a
bit
of
a
decrease
because
of
the
influence
of
the
pandemic.
E
I
would
also
caution
that
we
expect
this
decrease
to
be
temporary
and
that
it
really
doesn't
get
to
what
we
need
to
get
to
to
achieve
our
our
targets,
even
in
terms
of
the
short
term.
E
Yes,
so
this
is
the
that
is
exact
exactly
it.
We're
working
on
our
next
inventory
we're
starting
actually
early
in
the
new
year,
so
a
bit
earlier
than
we
normally
would
in
previous
years.
So
we
probably
would
have
that
information
a
bit
earlier
and
it
is
it
will
that
that
information
will
be
available
as
part
of
our
annual
reporting,
excellent.
A
I
am
using
my
mic,
so
that's
one
part
and
then
yep
super
awesome.
So
thank
you,
councillor,
brockington
and
now
on
to
councillor
king.
M
M
D
D
energy
evolution
only
assumed
a
63
dollar,
a
ton
increase
by
2030,
and
so
we're
optimistic
that
this
makes
the
financials
that
were
proposed
in
october
even
more
attractive
than
they
had.
They
were
to
support
that
low
carbon
transition
internally,
particularly
in
the
context
of
the
carbon
budget,
which
is
a
separate
climate
change
master
plan
priority.
D
This
will
also
help
us
make
a
stronger
case
for
the
development
and
application
of
potentially
something
like
an
internal
shadow,
carbon
price
in
the
short
term
short
term
which
can
guide
decision
making.
So
if
that
that
proposed
increase
does
continue
on
through
to
2030,
it
will
exceed
the
financial
estimates
that
we
made
in
energy
evolution
and
we
believe
it
will
be
a
significant
catalyst
in
supporting
the
the
transition
to
a
low-carbon
future.
N
The
price
on
carbon
in
sweden
is
180
a
ton
canadian,
so
you
know
anybody
believes
that
you
can't
run
an
economy
on
a
170
dollar.
A
ton.
Carbon
price,
I
think
are
are
mistaken.
N
I'll
say
that
I
think
going
to
that
price
will
be
significant
around
buildings
right
now.
If
we
try
and
look
at
heat
pumps
compared
to
natural
gas
heating,
which
is
almost
half
our
emissions,
it's
hard
to
make
the
justification,
but
I
think
this
increase
will
have
a
really
big
effect
in
leveraging
that
over
and
and
possibly
tipping
the
balance
on
on
where
building
heating
happens.
So
that's,
I
think,
that's.
J
N
Tangible
reason
you
know
to
to
the
very
good
question
on
why
why
this
will
be
something
that
makes
a
difference.
M
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
That
actually
is
a
lead
into
to
my
next
question,
because
I
was
noting
that
buildings
constitute
one
of
our
largest
proportions
of
of
the
emissions
45.
According
to
the
report,
and
I
know
last
year
I
had
asked
a
question
concerning
energy
efficiency
and
the
utilization
of
building
automation
technologies
to
to
improve
those
those
efficiencies.
M
So
I
was
just
wondering-
and
maybe
we
can
also
add
in
the
context
of
of
what
we
were
just
talking
about,
but
has
the
city
made
any
additional
progress
in
energy
efficiency
and
buildings
through
building
automation
technologies?
I
know
when
we
have
optimized
conditions.
You
know
we
should
see
30
cost
savings,
and-
and
previously
it
was
noted
that
we
aren't
there.
M
Yet
I'm
glad
that
you
know
the
change
in
the
pricing
structure
for
for
carbon
will
really
brought
us
in
in
the
right
direction,
but
I'm
wondering
in
the
interim
have
we
been
moving
in
the
right
direction
with
energy
efficiency
through
building
automation,
optimization.
N
Start
responsing
responding
to
counselor
kane.
Again,
it's
a
good
question
and
the
city
has
one
of
north
america's.
G
N
Web-Based
building
automation
systems,
so
you
know
individual
buildings
will
often
have
a
building
automation
system,
but
we
have
all
of
them
put
on
a
web-based
platform,
and
when
that's
when
I,
when
I
worked
for
the
city
doing
that
work,
it
was
marvelous
we
could.
We
could
go
on
and
just
call
up
building
after
building
and
take
very
little
time.
The
work
is
ongoing
to
get
more
into
the
question,
and
you
know
it
involves
going
to
the
buildings
that
are
harder
to
get
at
now
and
getting
them
online.
N
N
N
We're
going
to
get
jp
but,
but
I
I
you
know,
I
know
the
last
time
I
was
was
talking
about
this
issue
with,
with
the
bean
section
they
were
continuing
to
roll
out
this
work
and
going
to
smaller
and
smaller
buildings.
M
That's
good,
I
think
the
the
other
focus
obviously
should
be
on
recommissioning.
We
know
that
once
the
technology
is
implemented,
it
has
to
be
continuously
maintained.
So
hopefully
we
continue
in
that
right
direction.
It's
good
that
it
sounds
like
we
are
continuing
to
to
roll
out
the
the
technology,
but,
of
course
you
know
my
my
hope
would
be
that
we
utilize
that
technology
to
the
utmost
so
that
we
do
reach
those
30
energy
efficiency
targets
and
not
fall
within.
You
know
that
12
15
range.
M
I
think
that
we
we
definitely
need
to
heighten
the
the
responsiveness
of
that
technology.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
answers
and
and
happy
holidays
to
staff
as
well.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you
do.
A
A
He's
unmuted,
I
mean
he
raised
his
hand
to
try
to
try
to
respond
just
as
per
for
mike's
mention
of
him,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
just
an
issue
with
his
audio.
A
All
right,
while
we're
waiting
for
for
jp,
hopefully
that
that
connects-
and
he
can
jump
in
on
that.
Just
I
will
say
just
thanks
to
mike
fletcher.
I
know
he's
been
working
with
dan
decare
over
at
ottawa
community
housing
on
a
lot
of
the
initiatives
they're
working
on
too
and,
of
course,
with
the
gladstone
village
projects,
significant
project,
looking
at
a
district
energy
system,
a
brand
new
energy
system
there,
which
would
be
an
incredible
achievement
between
the
city
and
auto
community
housing
in
that
community,
which
opens
up
a
ton
of
opportunities.
A
A
Not
only
was
it
not
financially
feasible,
it
actually
wasn't
even
environmentally
feasible.
I
didn't
it
didn't
actually
provide
the
environmental
benefits
that
we
anticipated
so
having
working
on
those
new
systems
can
really
really
improve.
The
situation
that
we
have
so
jp
I
see
you're
back
in
is
your
audio
working.
I
hope
so.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
can
hear
you
perfectly.
Thank
you
fabulous.
O
Thank
you,
counselor
king,
for
those
comments
and
questions.
Just
a
little
bit
of
background.
The
city
has
over
150
building
automation
systems
that
we
talk
from
one
front
end
and
you
can
see
all
of
them.
We
were
recently
written
up
by
bacnet,
which
is
part
of
ashrae
as
an
early
adopter
of
this
technology,
where
leaders
everywhere,
as
far
as
municipalities,
as
far
as
being
able
to
a
look
at
automation,
we're
also
working
on
a
pilot
project
right
now
for
remote
buildings
that
aren't
on
our
wide
area
network
getting
those.
O
So
we
can
see
that
on
our
building
automation,
integration,
I
I
do
have
a
staff
that
is
now
dedicated
to
recommissioning
light.
So
she
goes
through
individual
building
automation
systems
to
help
make
sure
that
they're
operating
properly
recommission
them
identify
new
new
ways
of
going
forward.
So
as
far
as
building
automation,
the
city
of
ottawa
is
really
a
leader
in
it.
We've
got
we're
dealing
with
15
different
vendors
using
the
same
front
end.
O
So
our
city,
mechanics
with
our
with
an
ipad,
can
sit
on
a
roof
and
troubleshoot
problems
receive
a
call
from
a
facility
and
and
look
at
the
problems
they're
having
there
modify
schedules
throughout
the
city
facility
supervisors
from
at
home
can
phone
phone
a
building
as
a
problem.
That's
a
waste
from
them
and
and
look
at
it
right
now
and
we
are
spending
an
awful
lot
trying
to
decarbonize
our
buildings
and
and
optimize
them.
O
It
is
a
challenge
right
now,
because
natural
gas
only
costs
about
20
of
the
cost
per
unit
of
energy
of
electricity,
so
paying
for
that
makes
it
a
much
much
longer
or
more
challenging
payback
to
do
that
right
now
than
doing
lighting
and
some
of
the
other
measures
that
give
us
a
better
return
on
investment.
M
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
I
do
appreciate
that
that
that
update.
I
am
pleased
that
you
know
we
have
a
uniformed
interface
for
all
these
technologies
and
tech
when
we
have
a
uniform
interface
like
that
it
it
sounds
like
you
know
it
future
proofs
us
for
the
implementation
of
future
technologies
and
buildings.
Like
I
said,
the
emphasis
for
me
will
be
optimization
and
ensuring
that
we
can
lower
the
consumption
and
the
costs
of
of
that
consumption.
M
A
Thank
you
councillor,
king.
Thank
you
jp
for
your
wonderful
enthusiasm
as
well
and
glad
we
got
a
chance
to
ensure
you
connected
here.
So
our
next
counselor
is
our
vice
chair,
councillor
menard.
I
Thank
you
thanks
very
much
chair
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
continue
on
counselor
king's
line
of
questioning
there,
though,
and
with
jp
as
well,
hopefully
he's
still
there,
but
you
mentioned
that
you
had
a
great
update
on
on
building
a
optimization
and
automation,
bas
system.
So
that's
great
just
just
the
comment
about
the
cost
of
natural
gas
versus
electricity.
I
I
can
understand
that
for
some
pieces
that
may
be
the
case,
but
but
on
heating
of
buildings,
my
understanding
is
air
source
heat
pumps
are
very
close
to
natural
gas
to
propane
when
it
comes
to
the
heating
of
buildings
in
terms
of
cost,
and
so
those
the
aerosol
seed
pumps
are
part
of
the
solution,
certainly
in
our
climate
change
mass
in
our
in
our
energy
evolution
plan.
I
O
The
challenge
with
again
natural
gas
is
so
inexpensive
right
now
we're
paying
significantly
less
than
we
were
10
years
ago
for
for
natural
gas
and
significantly
more
for
electricity,
a
heat
pump
will
have
an
efficiency
of
say
four
hundred
percent
or
three
three
to
four
hundred
percent
over
the
year,
meaning
for
every
unit
of
energy
you're
getting
four
units
of
benefit
out
of
it,
but
if
it
costs
five
times
as
much
for
per
unit
of
energy
you're
at
at
best
breaking
even
getting
going
to
a
a
heat
pump
or
from
a
traditional
natural
gas
source,
ground
source
heat
pumps
are
a
little
bit
better
than
that,
because
you
don't
have
to
deal
with
the
cold
weather
in
the
wintertime.
O
The
other
challenge
with
heat
pumps
is
in
the
winter
time
when
we
get
extreme
weather,
your
efficiencies
drop
quite
dramatically,
and
you
need
some
sort
of
backup
to
heat
it.
So
so
yes,
we're
heading
in
that
direction,
but
I
I
I
know
to
me
the
solution.
Is
you
improve
the
build
the
envelope
in
your
building
first?
O
So
that
way,
you
significantly
reduce
the
load,
and
then
you
look
at
a
heat
pump
and
a
ground
source
heat
pump
might
be
a
better
application
in
our
environment
in
a
in
an
air-to-air,
a
lot
more
expensive,
but
it.
But
it
has
the
the
ability
to
to
work
effectively
in
the
middle
of
wintertime.
I
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
analysis
is
great
in
terms
of
the
building
envelope
and
making
efficiency
changes
around
just
insulation
and
our
our
windows
and
our
doors,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
I
think,
makes
makes
a
ton
of
sense
and
then,
as
we
transition
where
there's
a
need
to
change
over
the
the
heating
of
those
buildings,
the
the
look
of
whether
it's
an
air
air
source
heat
pump
or
a
a
ground
source
buried,
heat
pump,
certainly
more
efficient,
but
yeah
way
more
expensive
on
that
on
the
ground
source,
the
air
source
ones,
I'm
impressed
with
the
cold
climate
ones,
they're
getting
much
much
better
and
more
efficient
than
they
were
in
the
past
and
price-wise
about
the
same
cost
of
of
a
furnace
plus
they'll.
I
Do
your
ac,
so
that's
kind
of
a
nice
benefit
as
well.
If
there's
a
need
for
for
cooling
as
well,
but
any
event.
Thank
you
for
that
chair.
I
just
have
one
other
question
and
it's
around
the
new
federal
initiatives
that
have
been
announced
and
they
they
came
up
with
a
plan
just
this
past
last
week
on
friday,
and
there
are
some
overlap
with
municipal
projects.
I
As
potentials,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
staff
can
comment
on
on
a
high
level
what
that
plan
could
mean
for
for
the
city
and
how
we
may
be
able
to
utilize
some
of
the
pieces
that
are
in
there.
D
Thank
you
councillor.
Yes,
we
were
delighted
to
see
the
amount
of
overlap
in
alignment
between
the
new
federal
climate
plan
and
the
work
that
ottawa
has
done
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Certainly
our
targets
are
aligned
and
there
are
concrete
program
policy
and
funding
opportunities
for
each
of
the
top
five
actions
in
energy
evolution
as
an
example,
and
those
include
financial
support
for
residential
commercial
retrofits
and
electrification
of
personal
commercial
and
transit
vehicles.
D
D
That's
at
the
you
know
at
the
more
residential
level
at
the
commercial
scale.
I
believe
it
was
2
million
dollars
in
financing
for
commercial
and
large-scale
building
retrofits
that
could
ideally
be
repaid
by
energy
saving
costs,
and
that
was
part
of
the
canada
infrastructure
bank
10
billion
dollar
growth
plan
that
was
recently
released
on
the
transportation
side.
D
There's
also
great
news:
there's
an
ongoing
commitment
to
continue
the
federal
rebates
of
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
for
personal
vehicles
or
light
duty,
zero
emission
vehicles,
as
well
as
additional
funding
commitments
likely
flowing
through
nrcan
of
150
millions
of
over
three
years
for
charging
stations
and
refueling
stations
across
canada.
And
that
was
part
of
the
news
we
heard
in
the
fall
economic
statement.
D
On
the
you
know
the
medium
medium
duty
vehicles
there's
also
some
good
news
there
that
there
is
interest
in
increasing
these
performance
standards
so
that
they
are
among
the
most
ambitious
in
north
america
and
there's
good
news
on
the
transit
and
national
active
transportation
side
as
well.
They're
proposing
a
national
active
transportation
strategy
and
exploring
ways
to
deliver
more
active
transportation
options
through
walking
trails,
cycling
paths
and
other
forms
of
active
mobility,
as
well
as
building
on
historic
investments
in
public
transit
through
the
canada
infrastructure
program.
I
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
thanks
for
being.
On
top
of
that,
too,
I
know
it's
just
released,
so
there's
a
lot
to
go
through
right
away,
but
it's
good
news
that
there's
a
lot
of
overlap.
So
thank
you
to
your
team
for
for
doing
that.
Work
thanks
chair.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
following
up
on
counselor
king
on
building
efficiencies.
There
was
recently
an
auditor
general
report
about
the
work
that
we
have
to
do.
How
does
retrofitting
and
making
them
more
environmentally
efficient,
fit
into.
D
D
Counselor,
could
you
just
clarify
what
kind
of
retrofits
you're
most
interested
in?
Are
you
interested
in
sort
of
the
personal
level
retrofits
or
commercial
scale,
retrofits
or
municipal
retrofits,
for
our
own
buildings.
L
I'm
talking
about
well,
the
auditor
general
report
was
about
our
own
facilities,
our
own
infrastructure,
our
own
buildings,
that
that
we
as
a
city
own
and
that
we've
been
falling
behind
on
getting
our
buildings
up
to
par
and
and
I'm
wondering
where
energy
efficiency
could
also
be
play
a
role
here,
because
our
buildings
have
fallen
behind.
D
D
One
of
the
projects
that
was
approved
in
energy
evolution
was
a
municipal
renovation
and
retrofit
program
and
so
we're
in
the
early
stages
of
developing
a
project
charter
on
that
that
would
outline
the
approach
that
we'll
take
in
order
to
meet
our
very
ambitious
targets
through
the
through
energy
evolution,
modeling
they're
also
they're
in
the
interim,
while
we're
developing
that
we
have
applied
for
federal
stimulus
funding,
and
I
believe
that
that
report
rises
to
council
this
friday.
D
A
number
of
initiatives
related
primarily
to
windows
and
lighting
on
energy
efficiency
considerations
are
included
in
those
projects
and
the
hydro,
auto
a
dividend.
Surplus
spending
plan
of
2.6
million
dollars.
That
council
approved
in
october
also
includes
a
number
of
initiatives
for
our
own
facilities.
So
in
the
short
term,
we've
got
some
funding
proposals
and
we've
got
some
concrete
projects
that
already
have
approved
spending
for
it.
In
the
longer
term,
we
have
committed
to
and
will
be
developing
a
program
to
look
at
renovations
and
retrofits
within
our
own
corporate
facilities.
D
N
I'll
just
say,
I
think
I
think,
there's
a
fairly
good
size
planning
exercise
involved
in
in
you
know,
doing
a
really
good
job
of
tackling
our
own
buildings
and
doing
them
in
the
right
order
and
prior
prioritizing
the
right
actions
and
having
it
well
integrated
with
life
cycle
planning.
Generally,
so
we're
spending
the
money
wisely,
but
I
think
the
good
news
is,
it
doesn't
seem
impossible
to
me.
I
think
I
think
we'll
get
that
done
and
I
think
we'll
be
happy
that
we
did
it.
O
Yeah
counselor
deferred
maintenance
does
impact
energy
use
and
facilities.
So
when
we
are
falling
behind
on
stuff
it's
hard
to
keep
things
running
effectively
and
efficiently
with
duct
tape.
So
where
things
do
fall
behind
it
can
be
a
challenge
going
forward.
Retrofits
fall
into
a
number
of
categories.
O
You
know
some
of
them
that
that
we're
talking
about
have
you
know
some
of
the
re-skinning
of
buildings
have
upwards
of
an
80-year
payback
and
quite
often
the
facility
doesn't
have
that
much
life
left
in
it.
So
if
you're
going
to
spend
it,
you've
got
to
be
choosy
about
what
buildings
to
spend
that
type
of
investment
on.
So
that
way
you
can
save
energy,
but
long
term
actually
realize
your
savings.
L
Okay,
well,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
part
of
it,
because
it
was
a
report
that
said
that
we
were
falling
behind
and
I
couldn't
help
but
wonder
how
our
retrofitting
and
energy
efficiencies
are
falling
into
this.
Another
question
I
have
is
about
solar
panels.
Are
we
integrating
more
solar
panels
as
part
of
the
solution
in
our
buildings,
our
city
buildings,.
D
Counselor
we've
had
a
couple
of
conversations
offline
about
this,
and
I
know
that
councilor
moffat
recently
received
some
more
information
and
several
of
the
members
of
committee
were
also
included
on
that
as
part
of
energy
evolution.
There
is
an
electricity
resource
strategy
which
was
identified
and
the
work
that
we've
discussed
in
the
past,
as
well
as
the
new
information
which
has
recently
come
in,
can
all
be
considered
through
that
project.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilor
brockington
was
talking
about
reaching
out
to
residents.
I
I
maybe
I'm
speaking
for
other
counselors
too,
but
I
wouldn't
mind
having
a
staff
member
or
someone
on
the
team
talk
to
residents
when
we
do
our
our
council,
our
award
level
meetings
on
on
initiatives
to
get
them
going
because
keep
the
conversation
going
so
that
it's
so
it
really
gets
out
there.
L
D
L
That'd
be
great.
Another
question
I
had
is
for
stage
two
or
so
sorry.
Excuse
me
for
stage
one
we
were
talking
about
how
that
had
a
big
effect
on
the
on
the
drop
in
greenhouse
gases
was
that
calculated
ahead
of
time?
Was
that
something
that
we
did
a
calculation
on?
L
And
we
could
see
that
that
that's
what
we
were
expecting
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
so,
if
what
it's
going
to
be
for
stage
two,
because
I'd
love
to
tell
residents
about
that,
since
they
have
to
put
up
with
all
the
construction
right
now
that
there's
something
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
as
it
were.
D
D
I
know
that
there
are
some
other
folks
from
the
transportation
department
who
are
on
the
line,
so
I'll
just
pause
for
a
moment
and
see
if
anyone
else
is
available.
Jen
armstrong
has
confirmed
that
there
were
calculations
done
for
stage
one,
but
I
don't
know
what
they
are
jen.
If
you
know
what
they
are,
could
you
provide
that
or
could
you
get
back
to
the
counselor
at
a
future
future
stage.
B
So
I
can
find
out
that
information
for
you.
I
don't
have
a
background
on
all
of
it,
but
there
were
excuse
me
as
part.
A
Of
the
the
volume
start,
you
there's
just
a
volume
issue,
there's
just
you're,
very
faint.
If
you
could.
B
Sorry
about
that,
there
were,
as
part
of
the
business
cases
for
stage
one
and
stage
two
lrt
estimates
made
of
the
greenhouse
gas
reductions
associated
with
those
projects.
I
do
not
have
all
the
details
of
those,
but
we
can
certainly
send
you
the
business
case,
documentation
and
put
you
in
touch
with
the
the
individuals
who
would
have
more
information
on
that.
L
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
don't
see
any
further
questions
from
members
of
committee
or
additional
members
of
council
who
are
took
the
time
to
come
here
today,
so
appreciate
everyone's
involvements
and
staff's
work
on
this.
Obviously
this
is
you
know.
One
of
our
commitments
was
the
annual
reporting
on
ghg
missions,
which
we'll
see
obviously
we'll
see
some
of
the
the
odd
impacts
of
2020
when
we
get
into
2021
in
our
next
reporting.
A
Our
our
bus
fleet,
which
we
know,
is
a
huge
impact
when
it
comes
to
our
climate
master
plan
and
our
gsg
inventories.
So
thank
you
again.
That's
everyone
here
so
on
I'll.
Just
read
the
the
report
recommendations
here
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
that
council
one
receive
the
annual
status
update
on
the
climate
change
master
plan,
including
the
2019
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
A
Inventories
attached
as
document
one
and
updates
on
the
eight
priority
actions
as
summarized
in
this
report
and
two
approve
administrative
amendments
to
the
climate
change
master
plan
attached
as
document
two
and
as
outlined
in
this
report,
is
that
item
carried
carried
period?
Perfect.
Thank
you
so
much!
That's
it
for
this
agenda
in
camera
items
there
are
none
notices
of
motion;
none
inquiries,
none
other
business.
L
A
So
we'll
get
started
right
away.
Nope
oh
was
that
was
that
the
hat
talking
anyways
so
we'll
go
with
that's
a
very
rigid
hat,
so
we'll
go
with
again
so
on
a
german.
Our
next
meeting
is
tuesday
february
16th
2021,
which
is
two
months
from
now.
We
do
have
a
immediate
availability
that
we'll
do
just
following
up
with
staff
available
to
respond
to
any
questions
from
from
media.
A
Regarding
this
report
that
we
have
today.
So
thanks
everyone
and
enjoy
well
I'd
say
enjoy,
but
we've
got
a
council
meeting
on
friday,
so
you
know
yay
we'll
see
y'all
then.