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From YouTube: Transit Commission – September 19, 2018
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Transit Commission meeting – September 19, 2018 - Audio Stream
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B
B
This
part
of
the
Transit
Commission
meeting,
is
an
important
time
for
us
to
recognize
a
brave,
generous
and
inspiring
OC
Transpo
employees
who
go
above
and
beyond
the
call
of
duty
to
help
others
in
need.
Today
we
will
recognize
two
individuals
from
the
months
of
May,
June
and
July
Sceptile.
Today,
he
and
Linda
welcome.
B
B
This
acknowledgement
is
part
of
the
training
secure
program
which
is
a
well
established
community
protection
initiative
or
C
transfer
employees,
locate
for
the
safety
of
all
community
members
and,
as
a
result,
become
rise
and
years
of
the
community
while
driving
and
operating
the
transit
service.
They
notify
emergency
services
when
required
and
assist
individuals
who
are
in
distress
on
may
tenth
bus
operator
Allen
was
driving
route
62
in
the
West
End
of
the
city.
When
noticed
a
twelve-year-old
boy,
traveling
alone
on
his
bus,
the
boy
appeared,
lost
and
disoriented
concern
for
the
child's
safety.
B
Allen
reported
this
to
the
transit
operations,
control
center,
a
transit
supervisor
and
a
transit
special
constable
were
dispatched
and
met
the
bus
at
Bayshore
Station.
Upon
arrival,
it
was
discovered
that
the
boy
had
been
reported
missing
to
the
auto
police
service.
Earlier
that
afternoon,
police
arrived
and
soon
after
took
custody
of
the
and
were
able
to
reunite
him
with
his
family.
Thanks
Alan's
observation,
quick
actions.
The
situation
result
result
quickly
and
compassionately.
B
In
the
early
hours
of
June
5
bus
operator,
Mandy
was
completing
route
18
at
c'est
la
station.
When
a
male
customer
approached
robust
looking
for
help,
he
advised
her
that
another
male
customer
is
harassing
him
on
the
platform.
Mandy
immediately
invited
the
man
who
was
being
harassed
onto
her
bus
and
called
the
transit
operations
control
center
for
assistance.
Special
constables
were
quickly
dispatched
to
the
scene
in
Weibull
to
conduct
an
investigation
and
deal
with
the
suspect
thanks
to
Mandy's,
intuition
and
keen
sense
of
observation.
A
potentially
dangerous
situation
was
diffused
for
a
customer
in
need.
B
Bus
operator
Kyle
was
operating
too
late
at
night
on
July
21st.
When
he
observed
a
female
passenger
aboard
with
us.
Kyle
noticed
the
passenger
appeared
to
be
heavily
intoxicated
and
had
a
young
child
with
her
Kyle
immediately
contacted
the
transit
operations
control
center.
Soon,
after
special
constables
in
the
Ottawa
police
met
Kyle
on
the
route
to
ensure
the
child
and
female
passengers
safety.
The
female
passenger
was
taken
to
the
hospital
for
an
assessment
thanks
to
Kyle's
fast
reaction.
B
B
B
B
There
has
obviously
been
some
news
that
has
come
out
since
the
agenda
for
the
meeting
was
established
and
there
has
been
some
interest
to
discuss
certain
issues
of
that
news.
I
want
to
remind
the
trans
Commission
that
we
do
not
have
direct
authority
over
the
light
rail,
our
project
and
our
authority
extends
simply
to
the
operating
of
the
transit
service
and
as
well
for
transit
members
and
for
those
in
attendance
to
remember
that
we
do
not
have
authority
over
the
design
of
bus
routes
that
Authority
has
been
delegated
to
so
mr.
B
B
B
Is
this
okay?
Thank
you
very
much,
but
then
he
had
declarations
of
interests,
no
confirmation
of
the
minutes,
30
from
June
20
and
2019.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
one
is
the
status
update
for
transit
commission
motions
increase
for
period
ending
of
12
September
this
item
received
received?
B
A
Thank
you
chair
good
morning,
members
of
community
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Pat
shortly
to
talk
to
you
about
both
ridership
and
revenue,
the
the
forecast
of
the
projected
year-end.
It's
a
projection.
A
deficit
of
about
$800,000
represents
us
being
off
by
0.26
percent
off
of
the
total
500
million
dollar
budget.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
in
perspective
in
terms
of
the
scope
of
that.
In
terms
of
the
news,
the
good
news
is
that,
unlike
many
other
properties
across
north
america,
our
ridership
is
up
slightly,
and
that
is
very,
very
good.
A
So
ridership
is
up
slightly
I'll,
get
paths
to
talk
about
that
and
then
I'm
also
begin
to
then
walk
you
through
the
revenue
shortfall
explaining
the
Delta,
because
that
number,
if
you've
looked
at
the
table,
jumps
out
and
that,
while
that's
a
shortfall,
it's
also
aligned
to
to
some
of
the
ridership
issues
and
people
making
good
fair
choice
or
para
choices
that
suit
their
needs.
In
that
regard
so
Pat
over
to
you
thanks.
B
John
that
mr.
chair,
the
the
first
part,
what
I'll
talk
about
is
the
ridership
level.
In
the
first
half
of
this
year
we
carried
48
and
a
half
million
customer
trips.
That
is
one
percent
higher
than
we
did
in
the
first
half
of
last
year.
So
very
slightly
up,
it's
also
half
percent
higher
than
budget.
B
So
turning
now
to
the
the
fair
revenue
you'll
have
seen
in
the
q2
financial
report
that,
while
ridership
is
up,
revenue
is
below
the
budgeted
level,
and
this
results
from
a
different
demographic
makeup
of
our
ridership
base,
a
registered
group.
Then
we
had
then
we
had
predicted
when
we
establish
the
budget,
specifically
we're
carrying
more
young
people
who
are
paying
youth
fares
and
we're
carrying
fewer
adults
carrying
a
paying
a
full
fare.
B
If
you
look
at
the
table,
that's
on
the
screen
now
you
can
see
that
in
the
first
half
of
the
year
we
had
budgeted
to
carry
almost
200
ercell
282,000,
adult
monthly
passes
we
sold.
Two
hundred
and
sixty-nine
thousand
youth
monthly
passes
we
had
predicted.
We
would
sell
that
eighty,
nine
thousand.
In
fact
we
sold
almost
ninety
four
thousand.
You
can
then
see
that
seniors
passes
very,
very
close
to
budget
community
passes
and
access
passes
together
to
budget
equi
pass
the
discounted
pass
for
people
with
low
incomes.
We've
sold
more
of
those
who
are
expected.
B
So
these
indicate
that
we
are.
You
know
the
equity
share.
There's
been
an
improvement
in
mobility
for
people
with
low
income
and
the
youth
numbers
being
up.
Show
that
there's
young
people
who
are
who
are
using
the
service
to
travel
to
school,
or
for
other
reasons,
when
you
look
at
the
lower
numbers,
we
haven't
broken
them
out.
Here
you
can
see
that
single
ride
fares,
paid
paid
by
paid
by
he
purse
are
slightly
below
budget.
The
single
glide
fare
is
paid
by
cash,
are
slightly
below
budget,
indicating
that
our
customers
primarily
still
use
monthly
passes.
B
Other
fare
types
is
higher
than
budget
by
about
a
million
dollars.
The
other
pair
types
include
child's
fares
day
passes,
but
the
largest
number
in
there
is
the
U
passes
that
we
sell
through
the
universities
and
colleges
and
those
are
up
from
budget
level.
So
when
you
add
all
of
that
together,
the
budget
to
this
for
the
first
half
of
the
year
was
that
we
would
bring
in
ninety
six
million
dollars
in
fare
revenue.
But
in
fact,
we've
brought
in
ninety
three
million
dollars
in
fare
revenue.
A
B
You
very
much
miss
murkly.
Mr.
Spindler
I
didn't
hear
the
first
number.
You
said
the
12-month
to
12
members
95.9,
but
I
didn't
catch.
You
said
the
12
month,
12
month
number
was
ninety-five
point:
nine
million
I
didn't
catch
their
the
first
number
for
the
first
half
of
this
year.
For
the
first
half
of
this
year
we
carried
48
point
five
million
customer
trips
48
point
five,
which
is
one
percent
higher
than
what
we
carried
for
the
same
period
last
year,
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
replay!
Please.
A
So
the
preface
to
the
presentation
indicated
that
you
know
people
are
making
good
choices
about
affairs
and
that
we
are
seeing
a
reduction
in
their
revenue
as
a
result
of
that.
But
one
of
the
numbers
that
really
jumps
up
here
is
young
got
in
ninety
five
percent
of
the
adult
monthly
pass
revenue
that
you
had
forecast
intensification
is
proceeding.
If
intensification
is
going
to
be
sustainable,
we
need
adults
to
go
on
transit.
We
need
adults
overall
to
switch
to
transit
in
bigger
numbers
in
order
to
alleviate
the
congestion
problems
were
experiencing
in
the
city.
A
B
I
caution
against
drawing
any
conclusions
about
citywide
transit
ridership,
as
we
are
in
such
a
heavy
period
of
construction
and
service
disruption
from
the
construction
leading
up
to
the
opening
of
the
light
rail
line
there.
The
adult
ridership
will
be
more
concentrated
than
any
of
the
other
groups
in
travel
during
rush
hours
to
from
and
through
downtown,
where
the
service
impacts
of
the
construction
projects.
Several
of
them
are
most
heavily
concentrated.
You'll.
B
A
I've
been
talking
with
with
residents
in
there,
we
are
chatting
with
their
residents
veterans
this
morning
and
the
adults
with
whom
were
speaking
they're
buying
cars,
we're
finding
with
the
delays,
moving
them
off
of
traffic
they're,
making
long-term
choices
to
leave
the
transit
system.
There
are
people
and
I
think
these
numbers
bear,
though
our
more
vulnerable
who
are
low-income,
who
have
who
are
younger,
may
not
have
cars
who
are
using
the
transit
system,
but
I'm
very
alarmed
by
the
drop
in
adult
ridership,
particularly
the
passes.
A
The
news
that
LRT
is
going
to
be
delayed,
I'm
hearing
from
residents
is
leading
to
a
lack
of
confidence
in
transit
on
the
part
of
riders,
who
should
be
switching
over
to
the
transit
system.
How
are
we
going
to
windows,
adult
riders
back,
and
it's
not
just
peak
traffic
that
are
interested
in
the
long
term
20-year
future?
This
city
is
the
independent
adults
choosing
to
use
transit
for
everyday
trips
around
the
city?
That's
one
of
the
promises
of
LRT.
To
begin
with,
how
are
we
going
to
windows
out
out
riders
back
mr.
chair?
A
A
That's
been
mended
taken
across
Canada
to
look
you're
raising
and
much
much
more
account
serve,
because
everybody
is
looking
for
that
silver
bullet
as
to
why
Drive
ship
is
down
the
other
ship
is
down
across
the
board
in
North,
America
I
think
there's
only
three
that
it's
up
slightly
and
one
of
them
doesn't
have
teens
he's
in
operation,
and
they
want
to
turn
that
very
very
closely.
Soon
those
become
legalized
in
that
community,
which
is
trying
Vancouver
things
shift.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
speculating
as
to
its
its
people.
A
It's
intensification,
it's
every
study,
I'm
seen
come
out,
does
not
give
the
evidence
as
to
what
it
is,
and
in
fact
it
says
it
could
be
a
bunch
of
different
factors.
I
would
respectfully
disagree
with
you
that
those
numbers
are
reflective
of
lack
of
confidence
in
the
LRT
coming
online.
That's
a
pound
certainly
know
I
like
I,
said.
I.
A
Disagree
with
that
that
perception
of
my
comments-
that's
not
there's
no
evidence
to
substantiate
that
that
I've
seen
and
you
know
there
are
some
that
would
argue
that
intensification,
which
is
a
good
thing,
means
like
New,
York
City,
where
the
conveyed
in
commercial
buildings
into
residential
properties,
people
no
longer
their
system
and
you've
seen
the
many
articles
about
the
state
of
disrepair
and
some
jurisdictions
and
so
forth.
That's
a
causing
people
not
to
use
public
transit.
So
it's
a
bunch
of
means,
there's
other
nodes,
you've
invested
in
cycling,
you've
invested
in
walking
and
so
forth.
A
So
what
we're
showing
you
today
is
there's
the
breakdown
of
choices
that
people
are
making
and
the
tutor
study,
which
I
think
is
online.
If
novice
women
get
it
to.
You
also
reminds
early
the
cost
of
a
car
and
the
carrying
cost
of
a
car,
so
I
think
people
carefully
weigh
that
before
they
start
to
invest
eight
to
nine
thousand
dollars
in
carrying
the
cost
of
a
car
versus
using
public
transit.
A
If
it's
convenient,
accessible,
reliable,
so
I
understand
your
point,
it's
all
those
things
and
I'm
just
cautioning
on
whether
or
not
somebody
has
the
evidence
to
say
that
month,
adult
monthly
passes
are
down
because
of
X
Y
or
Z.
We
don't
have
that
and
that
if
I
did
I'd
share
it
with
you,
let's
get
that
then,
let's.
A
A
Public
opinion,
research
polling
to
get
us
an
in-depth
look
at
what
the
other
one
numbers
are.
We
did
do
that.
We
presented
that
to
you.
We
brought
you
the
elasticity.
We
brought
you
the
expert,
but
it
is
concerning
Spelman
asked
for
it
and
we
we
actually
presented
that
to
Kira
that
drove
kita
to
be
doing
some
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
right
now,
because
everybody's
struggling
with
ridership
across
the
country
and
I.
B
B
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there,
some
of
our
u-pass
users.
Can
you
tell
us
whether
you
pass
is
up
or
down?
Can
you
break
that
out?
I
believe
that
you
pass
is
up
slightly
a
reminder,
though,
that
that,
because
it's
a
compulsory
purchase
for
everyone
attending
of
the
universities
and
they
and
the
one
college
full-time,
it
varies
according
to
registration
at
the
universities
and
colleges
and
not
according
to
transit
ridership.
So
it's
an
indication
how
much
money
we
receive,
but
it's
the
college
and
university
enrollment
that
the
changes.
C
B
Now
the
discussion
back,
of
course,
we
don't
really
have
an
answers
to
why
we
think
it's
down
for
adults,
writers,
as
of
yet
that
this
is
for
q1
q2.
Do
we
have
any
idea
any
projections
as
to
where
you
think
they'll
be
by
the
end
of
the
year,
because
we're
running
a
slight
deficit
now,
do
we
have
a
sense
of
where
we're
going
to
be
by
the
end
of
2018.
B
A
Well,
we'll
watch
those
two
things
were
watching
the
ridership
and
we
we've
been
holding
around
0
and
1%
and
slightly
below
so
do
you
have
a
trend?
I,
don't
believe
we
have
a
trend
yet
and
we
are
in
a
situation
where
there's
a
lot
of
changes
going
on
for
our
riders.
So
we
went
careful
with
that.
The
revenue
trend
based
on
the
work,
the
finance
and
ourselves
did
that's
the
best
we
can
do
for
year-end
forecast.
A
What
we
will
know
is
once
we
open
up
the
LRT
and
through
the
transportation
master
plan
within
that
following
year,
we're
doing
a
comprehensive,
our
OD
study,
which
will
then
speak
to
it.
Cancer
leapers
talking
about
use
of
modes,
all
modes
where
people
are
taking
the
system
from
to
and
so
forth.
That's
what
I'm
anxiously
waiting
for
when
we
do
that
orange
origin,
destination
study
and
that's
across
our
or
got
known
with
our
partners.
That
starts
to
mine
us
some
of
the
issues
that
cancer
leaper
was
talking
about
early
on,
okay
and.
B
B
Think
that
says
that
that
we
made
the
right
decision
when
we
recommend
it
to
Council
that
we
go
ahead
with
that,
and
you
know
that's
the
number
that
that
I,
like
the
best
out
there
and
then
in
terms
of
so
we've
that
we've
identified
a
need
and
we're
answering
that
need
so
I
think
in
a
public
transit
system.
That's
our
most
most
important
job.
B
So
so
thank
you
for
that
in
the
work
that
you
can
get
on
that
show
on
to
to
get
us
those
numbers
on
the
echo
pass
and
and
again,
as
you
say,
it's
difficult
to
to
track,
they
were
going
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
year,
so
we
just
have
to
see
how
that
works
out.
But
again,
congratulations
on
that
piece
because
I
think
you
know
they
did
recognize
the
need
you.
When
a
you
advertised,
you
got
through
our
various
channels
and
we
recreated
an
even
better
was
open.
C
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I,
just
we're
all
in
the
same
event,
but
one
of
the
things
I've
noticed
that
the
conference
yesterday
they
talked
about
it
was
a
generic
city,
countrywide
study
and,
let's
play
out.
There's
are
a
lot
of
differences
between
communities
and
iris
about
men's
best
thing
that
nobody
else
has
and
that's
a
green
belt,
and
that
green
belt
has
quite
a
big
impact
on
a
bus
service
because
they
can
recognize
it
that
eighty
percent
of
all
the
new
residents
in
our
last
year
we're
outside
the
green
belt.
C
So
more
people
use
buses
where
they
have
a
shorter
travel
distance
and
more
likely
to
use
it.
I
hear
a
disses
conservatives
even
worsen
it.
A
lot
of
people
say:
I
asked
them
if
they
use
a
bus
of
the
work
downtown
similar.
They
say
no
as
well
as
some.
Why
not?
And
they
said
well,
they
take
the
bus.
It
takes
at
least
an
hour
and
a
half,
and
even
with
the
traffic
which
is
horrendous,
they
can
get
there
faster
and
speed.
The
people
working
as
time
is
quite
a
crucial
thing
for
people
traveling
well.
C
I
know
the
study
is
going
to
happen
without
relevance,
and
that
will
help
a
lot
because
it
will
show
these
changing.
We've
also
had
huge
growth
or
employment
in
the
Kannada
States
for
a
primarily
in
the
Kannamma.
It
doesn't
practice
all
through
the
area,
this
business,
high-tech
out
different
parts
of
canal
and
we're
now
getting
huge
huge
traffic
jam.
C
He
tries
very
hard
to
get
that
service
improvements
when
the
population
is
there
to
use
them.
That
is
not
them
developer
funding.
To
do
that,
we
know
that
they
read
up
and
say
when
retire,
all
the
old
addresses
in
that
prison
for
doing
improvements
in
the
service
that
are
away
from
me.
We
are
system
because
that
still
has
to
exist.
You
not
everybody
is
going
to
use
the
real
item.
They
swim
in
that
direction,
and
it's
so
it's
a
huge
problem.
It
takes
really
requires
a
whole.
C
We
think
of
how
we
hand,
by
the
best
service
in
Iowa
and
I,
just
want
to
know
how
you're
going
to
go
about
doing
that.
Is
there
some
interim
solutions
that
can
help
overcome
the
problem
that
we're
having
here
and
I,
must
say,
I
respect
the
fact:
we've
cut
your
costs
down.
Well,
that
means
repair
best
service,
so
we
aren't
in
that
we're
not
too
badly
off
between
quoting
versus
honest
$115,000
in
a
very
large
budget
deficit.
So
there's
a
lot
happening
there,
but
that's
not
the
most
important
thing.
C
The
most
important
thing
is
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
serve
those
people
who
are
not
getting
good
service
now
and
if
we
probably
would
use
the
best
if
it
could
be
reasonable
time,
because
then
we
could
get
down
to
them
core
families
instead
of
people
tell
me
we
can't
survive
with
one
car
in
our
family.
Now
that's
wrong.
A
So
I'll
start
with
the
budget
management
piece
just
to
show
members
a
commission.
We,
we
are
not
doing
the
budget
containment
by
cutting
service,
we're
doing
that
through
other
things,
staffing,
creases,
discussion
spending
and
so
forth.
So
on
service.
Mr.
charter
has
every
tool
at
his
disposal,
and
the
last
thing
we
do
is
cut
service
to
do
that
on
the
service
to
the
growth
areas,
cancer,
I,
don't
disagree
with
you
at
all.
A
You
know:
I've
chatted,
I've
chatted
with
a
reward
counselor
at
in
the
NGO
phase,
control
a
yourself
counselor
harder
every
day,
every
cancer
hubely
and
cancer
Qadri.
Everyone
in
the
growth
area
is
telling
you
the
same
thing:
they
want
more
service,
they
want
more
service
and
that's
I,
think
a
really
good
challenge
to
have,
because
that
means
their
customers
want
to
use
transit
and
again
this
touches
on
what
councilor
Bieber
was
talking
about,
and
the
facts
of
the
matter
are
the
said
that
you
need
money
to
provide
that
additional
service.
A
A
He
calls
me
every
day
about
reliability
on
the
leave
number
12,
which
affects
him
in
cancer
news
from
and
that's
because
those
roots
are
inter
line.
So
it
is
a
very
the
decision
was
made
years
ago
to
go
with
an
interline
system
that
tipped
into
a
space
of
a
very
complicated
system
that
once
there's
a
traffic
disruption,
a
snowstorm
or
a
major
construction
project.
The
entire
system
gets
affected,
so
the
calls
were
getting
now
that
Kannada
and
I
even
evade
you
know
the
LRT
changes
affecting
all
the
weights.
A
C
They
have
to
get
back
for
them
and,
if
they're
delayed,
then
they
lose
their
places
in
the
day
care
which
becomes
really
crucial
for
us
as
a
family
itself.
So
these
are
all
the
issues
that
they're
dealing
with
and
they
complain
on
Facebook
a
bit.
I
we
perceive
is
immediately
and
I've
had
some
some
knives
under
path,
and
he
has
worked
at
us
a
try
to
get
some
of
them
use
out,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
thinking
more
fixed
at
once.
C
What
I
really
would
like
to
see
is
that
people
understand
the
processes
in
the
way
to
fix
them.
I,
don't
think
they
really
understand
that
the
people
running
in
reaction,
I
merit
any
transportation
and
transit
is
a
number
one
issue
out
the
door
and
it's
a
big
time
and
they
don't
have
enough
roads
are
there
to
handle
the
best
traffic
as
well,
which
we
need,
and
I
have
snow
it
is
natural
pass
on
to
your
secretary
yeah.
I
think
there
are
things
we
can
do
to
make
it
better
Andy.
C
We
don't
want
to
have
it
happen
that
we
stopped
the
growth
in
the
technology
industry,
because
people
will
go
there,
because
the
people
can't
get
to
work
and
that's
already
happening
and
that's
bad
for
City
of
Ottawa,
because
when
they
leave,
they
may
not
stay
in
Ottawa
with
and
the
that
is
a
real
danger
type
of
thing
and
be
there
and
I'm
saying
some
of
that
already
trying
to
work
around
it.
But
it's
something
that
the
transit
transportation
system
is
a
whole
which
transit
is
a
really
crucial
part,
as
part
of
that.
C
So
I
think
mr.
chair
I
just
wanted
to
raise
this
because
I
think
it's
something
that
there's
a
whole
psychology
of
how
we
work
with
it's
expected.
Counselor
reaper
is
expecting
yourself.
Is
there
that
thing
in
different
ways
way
across
this
whole
city?
And
then
I
was
interesting.
Talking
to
some
of
the
people
yesterday,
when
I
was
at
the
workshop
yesterday
would
be
before
memory
I
think
was
and
from
different
parts
of
Canada
and
what
they're
experiencing
members
and
the
couple
that
are
doing
some
new
things
and
Calgary
Edmonton.
C
C
That
will
work
and
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
courage
and
a
members
of
council,
because
it
means
change,
but-
and
we
did
that
seven
years
ago,
if
it's
time
to
do
it
again
and
the
people
could
work,
is
changing
not
as
many
people
work
downtown
anymore.
That's
part
of
the
issue
and
I
agree
with
the
whole
idea
that
the
Attic
once
went
down.
This
is
the
most
crucial
thing
in
this
one,
because
it
means
that
working
people
saying
unless
perhaps
she
had
no
choice.
C
B
Think
you've
immature
cancer
Wilkinson
mr.
McCoy
mr.
scrimshaw,
giving
me
ridership
information,
that's
been
presented
and
in
anticipation
of
a
full
ad
study
which
work
on
was
part
of
our
the
TMP.
How
easy
it
or
difficult
would
it
be
for
us
to
transfer
to
understand
and
present
that
information
on
where
those
changes
or
way
that
shortfall
is?
Is
it
during
rush
hours
at
off-peak?
Is
it
in
the
inner
part
of
the
city?
B
B
B
B
As
for
timing,
I
think
it
would
probably
be
a
you
know,
mid
nineteen
to
to
get
a
get
enough
staff
time
on
it
to
draw
some
proper
conclusions.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Commissioner
crew,
Thank
You
mr.
chair
just
a
couple
of
quick
comments.
Certainly
understanding,
councilor,
looper
and
councilor
Wilkinsons
concerns.
I
do
see
some
reasons
for
optimism
in
here.
The
overall
number
is
a
slight
uptick
at
a
time
where,
where
transit
systems
are
experiencing
a
down,
Tet
we've
gone
through
a
time
of
tremendous
disruption.
B
We
also
come
through
a
season,
but
back
to
May
and
June
was
phenomenally
good
weather
and
the
City
cycling
efforts
are
working.
It's
even
in
light
of
all
of
these
pressures,
we're
still
seeing
numbers
that
are
not
bad
one
in
particular,
that
I
would
like
to
ask
about.
Is
we
exceeded
by
a
fair
number?
The
number
of
youth
passes
that
we
saw
but
I'm
wondering
if
there's
an
explanation
for
why
that
number
was
higher
than
we
anticipated.
B
Most
of
our
youth
passes
are
sold
to
the
to
the
school
transportation
authorities
for
the
school
boards,
not
but
probably
75,
80
percent
of
them,
maybe
even
more
than
that,
so
those
numbers
would
be
based
on
their
enrollment
levels,
their
policy
decisions
about
how
far
people
walk
and
and
how
they
distribute
people
between
schools.
So
we
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
that.
It
would
take
some
careful
thinking
to
tie
it
down
to
a
single
source.
I
imagine
it
could
be
done,
but
it
could
result
from
some
of
the.
B
For
instance,
it
could
result
from
some
of
the
school
realignments
that
the
English
public
board
has
done,
which
and
some
of
the
smaller
schools
were
closed
or
people
are
traveling.
However,
some
of
those
effects
are
only
coming
into
effect.
This
September
and
it
wouldn't
have
affected
the
first
half
of
the
year.
So
that's
also
a
possible
contributor.
There's
more
people
right
now
in
that
age
cohort
than
there
than
there
has
been
previously
I.
B
Don't
have
that
information
for
you
right
and,
of
course,
the
number
affecting
the
September
changes
would
not
be
reflected
there
yet
I
just
see
in
Italy.
It
may
be
school
board
decisions
contributing
to
that.
But
I
see
a
reason
for
optimism
in
that
number.
You
look
at
any
business
model.
They
say
you
get
your
customers
well
they're,
young
and
I
think
that
if
they
understand
I
use
a
youth
pastor
regularly.
I
think
that
is
those
people
grow
up
and
stay
in
the
city.
B
B
That's
some
22,000
passes
of
people
that
may
not
otherwise
have
been
able
to
be
on
the
system
and
I
know
at
the
time
that
we
implemented
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
whether
or
not
we
had
received
the
price
point
right,
seeing
a
number
that
is
robust,
like
that
of
people
that
we
may
not
have
captured
in
the
system.
Otherwise
says
to
me
that
well
it
may
not
be
everything
that
I
do
income
residents
of
the
city
may
have
wanted
that
it
is
a
vehicle
that
is
being
effective
and
I.
B
Think
the
numbers
that
we
see
there
definitely
affirm
the
decision
of
this
commission
and
the
council
to
have
implemented
that
pass.
Those
would
be
my
comments.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Commissioner,
crew,
councilor
news,
fun,
Thank,
You,
chair
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
the
presentation.
Most
of
my
questions
have
been
answered
in
the
meantime.
I
just
had
one
which
related
to
and
we've
lost
the
chart.
B
Okay
I
just
wanted,
because
you've
got
the
ridership
numbers
and
then
you've
got
and
this
fair
information
is
it
possible
to
essentially
track
the
fare
type
with
the
router
ship
members?
If
you
know
what
I
mean
so
could
be,
if
there
was
another
column
on
this,
could
we
figure
out
how
many
of
the
forty
eight
point,
five
million
tracked
against
each
fare
type?
B
Yes,
we
have
that
information,
that's
how
it's
using
the
fare
sales
that
we
estimate
the
number
of
people
who
are
traveling
yeah,
because
that
might
be
understand
I
mean
that's
it's
an
interesting
piece
because
it
might
help
us
sort
of
and
understand
and
I
mean.
Yes,
you
can
make
assumptions
about
I
mean
I.
Could
we
could
probably
do
the
math
that,
if
that's
something
we
can
share,
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
that
only
to
help
us
understand
them
and
I
think
the
important
point
that's
been
being
made.
B
As
you
know,
we
were
the
monthly
pass
and
then
the
you
purse,
which
are
both
down
or
hoping
fingers
crossed
that
those
numbers
are
go
back
at
once.
Lrt
is
online,
but
just
in
terms
of
understanding
the
metrics
and
understanding
the
problem,
if
we
can
pinpoint
where
that
problem
is,
that
would
be
super
helpful
because,
again,
it
sounds
like
you
touch
play.
The
scoreboards
are
buying
many
more
passes,
but
if
that's
information
you
can
trade
out
would
be
hugely
helpful.
Thank.
B
You
much
counselor
counselor
teacher
lesson,
please
doc.
Thanks
for
the
presentation
discovery
questions
it
would
have
been
useful
to
have
had
the
number
of
adult
monthly
passes
that
we
had
sold
last
year
as
opposed
to
the
budgeted.
My
question
is
that
we
pass
how
many
new
riders,
who
have
entered
or
using
the
system
because
of
the
event
advantageous
price
point
versus.
B
No
I,
don't
would
be
a
hard
thing
to
determine
with
any
degree
of
certainty.
It
might
be
possible
to
look
at
how
many
people
who
already
had
a
presto
card,
came
in
and
had
it
coded
for
neck
repairs.
That
might
tell
us
and
I
remember
when
we
were
debating
the
vehicle
pass
when
we
discussing
the
upper
path
that
there
was
some
prediction,
some
analysis,
then
of
persons
who
will
be
using
the
Monthly
Pass
and
who
would
likely
switch
and
and
some
who
would
who
would
be
new
users.
It
would
be
useful.
B
B
A
Others
great
question
counselor
that
is
directly
aligned
to
an
accountant,
but
who
asked
it
at
fedko
on
a
broader
corporate
scale
and
the
treasurer
and
I
are
putting
back
there's
a
direction
on
fedko.
What
what
are
the
costs
and
spend
rates
get
affected
with
the
with
the
delay,
but
on
our
use,
the
OLT
transition,
one,
that's
a
bucket
of
money
for
a
bunch
of
operational
things
and
changes,
and
things
like
that.
A
So
when
we're
attracting
the
number
day,
for
example,
we
brought
you
that
that
augmented
reporter,
but
how
we
balanced
the
budget
that
was
an
all-in
look
based
on
going
and
going
to
November,
so
we're
going
to
do
the
same
thing
moving
forward.
So
if
it
costs
more
and
we
need
more
resources
or
less
resources,
we
will
adjust
accordingly.
B
A
B
A
B
Thank
You
Commissioner,
Miller,
Thank
You
mr.
vice
chair
I,
mean
I,
mirror
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
by
Councillor
I
cry
and
Commissioner
crew.
I
think
we're
all
very
happy
that
the
echo
pass
is
working.
It's
working
as
well
as
it
is
I
know
that
was
important
to
everyone
around
this
table,
but
more
important.
It
was
important
to
people
in
the
community
putting
on
other
hats
of
being
in
the
community
and
hearing
from
people.
It
makes
a
lot
of
difference,
but
a
lot
of
people
still
don't
know
about
this.
B
B
No,
the
last
time,
I
believe
we
had
a
surplus
in
one
of
these
midterm
was
when
the
gas
prices
went
through
the
floor,
and
that
was
fantastic,
but
you
know
maybe
not
for
planning
purposes,
and
you
mentioned
that
ridership
is
down
across
North
America
and
across
Canada
and
I.
Think
that's
something
you
know
we
built
in
growth
in
this
area
and
right
now
has
very
low
unemployment.
B
So
we
had
a
lot
of
people
moving
around
and
we're
still
just
seeing
kind
of
we're
ahead
of
the
pack,
but
that
can
change
really
quickly
so
I
when
we
start
looking
towards
next
year.
Let's
be
very
realistic,
and
this
is
tough
work
and
the
city
treasurer,
and
you
guys
do
a
lot
of
very
good
work
in
detail
on
this
and
and
I
will
equate
it
to
the
detours.
B
I
know,
a
lot
of
us
were
very
nervous
around
the
detours
two
years
ago,
two
and
a
half
years
ago
and
I
will
say
that
those
were
seamless,
as
they
could
have
ever
been
I,
remember,
sitting
next
to
councilor
leaper,
who
was
very
concerned
about
the
some
of
the
West
End
detours
and
coming
back
and
saying
how
well
they've
gone.
So
you
know
we
have
the
capacity
to
do
these
things
well,
I,
obviously
very
happy
to
see
that
the
ridership
is
up.
B
Do
we
know
why
we
are
seeing
this
move
from
the
monthly
passes,
because
you
know
last
year
we
talked
about
how
people
are
moving
from
per
cap,
two
monthly
passes,
and
that
was
the
big
change
la
sure.
People
are
going
from
the
purse
to
monthly
passes
and
now
we're
seing
monthly
passes
to
lower
monthly
passes
or
or
not
at
all,
but
a
writer
shoots
up.
So
this
means
that
to
me
at
least,
if
I'm
reading
this
correctly,
that
the
lower
fare
classes
are
riding
the
bus,
a
lot
more
on
average
than
they
were
before.
B
B
That's
there
now
that
trading
back
and
forth
moving
from
one
type
of
discount
to
another
is
much
less
likely
that
when
people
make
changes,
it's
probably
because
of
changes,
they're
making
themselves
and
they're
only
traveling
to
work
four
days
a
week
if
they're
working
from
home
one
day
after
work
and
compressed
work
week
as
they
themselves
retire
or
as
the
people
who've
been
paying
full
fare
identified
themselves
as
being
eligible
backward
pass.
They
can
move
into
into
other
fare
times.
No
I.
B
Remember
that
conversation
on
the
the
multiplier
and
I
think
that
that
was
an
incredibly
important
step
that
was
taken.
What
I
would
be
interested
in,
seeing
if,
if
you
guys
have
the
data
would
be
around
in
the
move
taps
each
fare
class
on
average
is
using
and
I
feel
like
they
might
be
able
to
give
that
to
you
from
compressed
owe
because,
if
the
monthly
passes
actually
tapping
75
times,
that's
fantastic,
but
we
need
to
know
that
that
they're,
using
the
service
that
much
we
know
what
that
multiplier
is.
But
how
much?
B
A
Chair
that
point
is
spot-on.
I
can
tell
you
that
again,
the
industry
is
looking
across
the
board
as
to
what
that
multiplier
is
because
people
do
do
the
math.
These
are
going
exactly
down
the
path
you're
talking
about.
What's
my
total
cost,
if
they
take
it
ex-member
times
and
so
forth,
and
you
know
it
speaks
to
the
our
ability,
the
service
and
so
forth.
So
they
do
that
math
about
how
many
times
that
amuse
that
pass.
A
This
is
going
new
person,
so
that
is
spreadsheet
and
crank
that
out
and
they
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
it's
all
changing,
because
those
multipliers
they're
based
in
data
from
the
80s
and
so
forth.
So
as
GM's
as
he
is
across
kinda
we've
all
talked
about.
How
do
we
get
smart
people
like
mr.
Scrimgeour
to
figure
out
what
that
multiplier
is?
A
And
how
do
you
collect
that
data
and
you
got
to
go
ahead
and
grab
it
and
capture
it
and
so
forth,
so
with
transportation
planning
into
my
umbrella
now,
there's
a
heavy
transit
influence
and
what
miss
cheese
going
to
do
on
those
studies
related
the
ADEs,
the
subsets
that
everybody's
talking
about
grab
as
much
data
and
bring
that
intelligence
to
table
becomes
easier
to
grab
now
so
it'll
be
a
hybrid
of
taps
through
presto
and
other
data
that
you
go
ahead
and
collect
over
the
field
and
so
forth.
No.
B
B
Well
sure,
okay,
that
the
transmission
received
this
report
from
informations
that
received
received,
and
so
we're
rated?
The
third
item
which
we
added
mr.
McCarney
I,
think
you
had
a
couple
things
to
say,
and
then
we
do
have
one
public
delegation
who
somehow
anticipated.
We
were
going
to
add
this
to
the
agenda,
and
then
we
will
go
to
questions
from
members
of
the
Commission.
Mr.
McCarney
certainly.
A
Thank
You
mr.
chair
with
respect
to
the
route
adjustments
related
to
the
LRT,
as
you
recall,
was
discussed
at
Petco,
so
we
are
working
on
that.
We,
we
are
looking
at
the
entire
team,
looking
at
what
routes
or
adjusted
in
anticipation
of
the
LRT,
and
then
we
are
looking
at
what
tweaks
can
we
do
to
those
rates
and
we've
heard
about
them,
be
11:00
to
12:00
and
so
forth?
A
What
can
we
do
with
those
and
we
will
communicate
back
to
Council
on
that
and
with
certain
check
and
I
know,
cancer
news
dome
was
asking
about
what
an
LP
we
could
sit
down
with
his
office
and
get
some
ideas
recently.
Do
that
and
others
the
to
manage
expectations?
I
want
to
be
clear.
It
is
those
routes
that
are
directly
related
to
the
LRT
adjustments.
A
There
will
be
tweaks
and
we
will
we've
heard
and
we've
seen
or
grabbing
the
data
as
to
what
the
complaints
that
you've
been
receiving
in
our
office
has
been
complaining
and
the
suggestions.
We
cannot
unpack
all
of
the
routes
and
all
of
the
September
changes
that
that
involves
and
I
know,
because
the
questions
been.
You
know
why
did
you
do
the
rate
changes
if
you
knew
this
was
coming?
We
change
planning
started
in
early
of
the
year.
A
It
takes
months
to
do
that,
and
there
are
the
planning
logistics,
the
the
mapping
out
information,
there's
the
contractual
obligations
without
payers
that
take
booking.
That's
why
you
receive
the
September
nor
this
change
in
mid-july.
That's
when
everything's
finalized.
So
it's
months
of
work,
so
we're
not
ready
to
give
you
those
details
today
we
need
a
bit
more
time
and
we'll
certainly
communicate
to
all
members
of
council.
But
so
it's
going
to
be
a
trying
to
do
that.
Delegate.
A
B
B
C
As
some
of
you
know,
my
name
is
Miranda
gray
I'm,
a
heavy
transit
user
in
that
I
have
chosen
to
webinar
lanes
and
working
dad
know,
which
means
my
six
workday
is
spent
on
an
OC
Transpo
bus.
It
is
very
rare
that
I
have
less
than
two
hours
on
the
bus
a
day
and
frequently
on
that
three.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
case
about
one
word.
In
particular,
this
is
the
route
that
services
my
house,
the
130.
C
So
this
is
a
just
some
quick
facts
about
this
route.
This
bus
route
starts
before
5
a.m.
in
the
morning.
It's
frequently
used
by
the
writers
I've
sorry
by
the
drivers
to
get
to
this
station,
so
they
can
pick
up
their
buses
and
it
goes
to
after
midnight
to
run
the
entire
route
takes
an
hour
and
it
cuts
through
the
bulk
of
well
I,
guess
I
would
call
it
original
or
means
not
to
the
new
part
set
by
innocent
of
the
rest
of
the
community
is
served
plant.
C
It
had
very
significant
route
changes
on
September,
2nd.
Now
the
it
only
connects
to
the
eastern
transit
way
in
one
place:
that's
passed
or
means
it
used
to
connect
at
John
Beck.
Now
this
bus
only
comes
within
500
meters,
Jean
d'arc,
and
you
need
to
walk
across
the
174
to
catch
the
bus.
If
you
are
going
downtown-
and
that
would
be
the
bulk
of
the
problem.
C
So
this
is
a
close-up
picture
of
the
old
and
the
new
boot.
The
web
section
is
the
section
that
was
discontinued
on
September,
2nd
I
used
to
be
a
president
of
the
Community
Association
affected
by
this
and
I
am
on
that
route.
But
you
have
now
disconnected
me
from
my
eye
doctor
and
my
grocery
store.
I,
never
need
to
take
two
buses
to
get
to
those
places,
rather
than
just
run.
It
means
everyone
in
convent.
C
The
north
is
routed
towards
Blair
or
plaster
means
the
connector
to
in
Israel,
which
is
one
of
the
mean
retail
is
in
our
time
and
also
in
the
place
where
people
employed.
The
green
section
is
st.
Joseph's.
This
is
mean
the
part
of
it
is
stuff,
that's
already
covered
by
other
bits,
but
the
part
on
the
far
left
would
be
new
service,
and
while
that
is
nice,
it
came
at
a
big
sacrifice
for
the
people
of
convent
claim
and
if
you
look
at
all
those
push
points
are
down
lever.
Yellow
is
in
the
middle.
C
The
LRT
was
going
to
open
and
then
make
sense
them,
but
does
not
make
sense
and
do
all
respect
to
a
mr.
McCarney.
We
have
known
that
wasn't
going
to
happen
for
some
time
so
to
hear
that
even
in
July
you're
thinking
that
was
happen
is
is
that
is
shocking
to
me.
So
let
me
tell
you
a
bit
more
about
this.
C
This
is
the
official
information
notice
that
went
out
to
people.
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
little
complex
I
have
to
admit
that,
even
though
I'm
a
regular
I
miss
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
going
to
impact
me
with
this,
so
the
videos
is,
you
have
given
us
better
connections
to
downtown,
which
is
overly,
if
that's,
where
you're
going.
Unfortunately,
if
you
are
doing
grocery
shopping
are
going
to
school,
doing
errands,
taking
their
kids
to
dance
or
Hawking,
you
have
a
look.
C
The
service
inside
audience
is
definitely
worse
along
this
route,
as
I
said
it
no
longer
services
Jean
d'arc
station,
that
is
a
major
station.
It's
on
the
transit
way.
People
come
down
the
the
escarpment
on
the
west
side
of
Orleans
to
get
to
Jean
d'arc,
and
there
is
no
longer
a
connection.
There.
I
saw
five
people
jump
off
a
131
this
morning,
because
it
also
miss
Burke's
bus
to
catch
a
1:30
to
go
up
the
hill
to
transfer
to
another
bus
to
get
them
downtown.
C
That
probably
adds
half
an
hour
to
their
time.
That
38
is
new
and
I
guess
that
would
be
great
news,
except
that
it
goes
to
Blair
and
doesn't
really
connect
you
to
aliens.
So
far,
these
people
in
convent
Glen
less
than
a
better
service
to
Blair,
but
they
don't
have
service
to
their
neighbors.
They
don't
even
has
us
to
either
of
our
two
main
rec
centers.
C
This
made
no
improvement
to
the
western
part
of
comment
Glen
north
yeah,
but
it's
still
underserved.
Basically,
they
only
have
peak
hour
service.
What
we
used
to
call
Express.
We
don't
have
a
regular
service,
they're
forced
to
walk
in
and
their
main
route
was
the
131,
which
is
the
route
that
has
been
changed
thanks
very
much
Miranda.
B
I
believe
cancer
news
Paul,
was
on
the
list
for
mr.
franconi
yeah
Thank
You
chair
and
thank
you,
they're
colleagues,
through
a
green
tag,
this
item
I
thought
it
was
important
just
to
have
a
quick
discussion
recognizing
that
work
is
underway
from
staff
and
just
to
note
that
I
certainly
agree
that,
in
many
of
the
cases,
the
news
of
the
LRT
in
pushback-
let's
say
roughly
six
months-
we're
not
necessarily
impact
every
route
and
I
get
that
and
invent
us.
B
B
B
Unfortunately,
a
couple
of
the
route
changes
did
not
come
up
at
the
forum,
thinking
specifically
about
the
twelve
and
that's
why
the
route
change
caught
people
by
surprise,
because
it
hadn't
been
something
that
was
brought
up
when
we
brought
kinds
of
users
together
to
talk
about
those
those
routes.
So
concert
fail
and
I.
Actually,
we've
been
talking
tons
of
years,
including
this
morning
we
were
out
chatting
with
people
in
anticipation
of
this
meeting
and
I.
B
This
morning
a
lot
of
the
writers
were
saying:
yeah
we'd,
really
love
the
bus
continued
to
bang
Street
in
the
morning
and
for
the
next
six
months,
winter,
slush,
snow,
rain,
etc.
You
can
see
that
being
of
real
value,
but
other
writers
said,
but
at
the
same
time,
in
the
afternoon
we
appreciate
that
things
are
a
little
faster
starting
at
Mecca
from
Queens.
So
that's
really
important
feedback,
because
that
might
lead
you
to
a
solution
which
is
maybe
a
bit
more.
B
My
main
point
is
I
would
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
those
of
us
who
have
words
that
have
been
affected
and
where
you
think
there
is
a
logic
in
maybe
adding
in
an
interim
solution
until
such
time
as
the
LRT
starts
and
where
the
experience
that
certainly
I've
had
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
is
writers
are
really
smart
about
these
things
and
they
can
often
come
up
with
great
ideas
themselves
for
how
to
solve
these
things.
So
look
forward
to
that
dialogue.
A
We
believe
that,
with
our
good
partnership,
the
union
will
get
consensus,
that
it's
not
a
rebooking
of
the
work,
and
that
way
we
don't
have
to
open
up
everything
up.
If
we
get
into
the
extensive
changes,
then
it
complicates
things.
So
it's
a
matter
of
weeks
cancer,
but
there's
a
lot
of
steps
we
need
to
go
through
and
that's
why
taking
some
time
we
want
to
do
it
right
and
we'll
certainly
check
in
with
the
affected
counsellors.
Okay,
thank.
B
A
Around
October
I'll
ask
mr.
charter
clicking
from
wrong,
but
we
are
mapping
out
all
of
that.
These
are
the
again
working
with
the
Union
as
to
what
we're
doing.
We
have
the
information
that
we
have
my
TIGI
and
it's
very
complicated
because
we
have
rendered
employees
that
have
been
given
layoff
notices.
What
are
we
are
we
sending?
Those
are
we
extending?
Are
they
eligible
for
buckling
and
so
forth?
So
it's
very
complicated
now
the
guide,
but
it's
roughly
October,
mid
October
and.
A
Of
March
April,
but
again
we
need
to
get
from
RTG
what
those
dates
are.
What
are
we
tracking
and
what
are
we
giving?
We've
got
to
take
care
of
those
employees,
because
you
know
it's
hey.
The
good
news
is
you're
sticking
around
that
for
how
long,
and
is
it
for
the
whole
booking
and
so
forth.
It's
a
very,
very
complicated
matrix,
absolutely.
B
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
so
if
any
of
the
issues
that
you
really
we're
talking
about
today
or
from
what
you've
heard
are
very
complicated
to
unpack
in
a
short
timeframe
relating
to
the
rebooking
for
the
Fall
etc.
Is
it
more
likely
that
that
can
be
addressed
in
that
next
round
of
booking,
pursuant
to
when
we
might
hear
from
our
tge,
etc,
etc?
If.
A
It's
anything
extensive
that
requires
and
the
route
to
change
significantly
that
it's
considered
new
work.
We
will
have
a
open
up
the
booking,
so
our
goal
is
to
stay
within
the
parameters
that
you
know.
Clinton
is
executive,
Concannon,
sign
off
and
say:
yeah,
that's
not
new
work,
that's
just
an
extension
of
a
reader
as
councillor
Nussbaum
was
saying
you
know
it
ends
one
block
shorter
or
extends
for.
If
it's
those
things
we
can
be
within
this
current
work.
A
If
it's
significant,
then
we'll
have
to
catch
it
on
the
next
booking
and
then
we're
caught
in
that
trade
off.
If
you
know
our
teas
launching,
why
would
you
adjust
and
double
adjust?
So
again,
it's
those
all
the
permutations
and
combinations
we're
going
through,
and
that's
why
it's
taking
time
we
don't
to
give
you
something
that
have
to
change
it.
A
couple
weeks
after
absolutely.
B
Cancer
caucus
Thank,
You,
chair
and
John.
You
touched
on
this
bits
and
I
just
wanted
that
clarification,
so
the
drivers
who
were
given
the
slips.
Where
is
that
in
the
process?
Now,
when
are
we
offering
them
to
come
back?
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
them
come
back
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
or
where
is
that
in
the
process
of
I'm.
A
A
B
Absolutely
correct
mr.
chair
we're
working
with
labor
relations,
legal
services
and
obviously
the
operation
departments
and
the
unions
to
discuss
what
the
appropriate
next
steps
are
and
in
terms
of
the
routes
on
as
well.
You
see
er
speaking
of
what
seems
to
be
a
selective
reversal
return.
So
can
you
just
clarify
why
it
would
be
just
a
selective
return
instead
of
the
full
magnitude
of
returning
to
what
the
bus
service
was
prior
to
the
time
line
that
we
had
in
place.
A
So
two
things
they're
a
bunch
of
September
changes
just
as
whether
you're
building
LRT
or
not,
plus,
it's
also
the
dialogue
on
ridership
and
capacity
and
bus
type
stuff,
so
that
all
stays
in
place.
The
12-hour
sale
routes
that
were
changed
specifically
in
anticipation,
whether
it's
transfer
points
we're
going
to
be
without
RT
and
so
forth
can
only
be
tweaked
if
you
start
to
restore
them
right
back
to
what
they
were.
A
That
will
open
up
all
the
requirements
to
go
to
a
full
booking
and
to
unpack
a
bunch
of
other
words
because
you're
injured
it's
not
just
because
of
the
contractual
obligations
you're
interlined
also.
So
all
those
routes
are
connected
to
other
routes
and
you
just
start
to
untangle
a
big
maze
and
then
it's
it's
work
that
needs
to
be
reposted.
We've
configured,
Rika,
Munich,
ated.
Next,
stop
announcements
again,
I'm
just
walking
through
all
these
things.
It's
not
it's
not!
You
know
cool
assets.
A
This
takes
months
because
there's
interconnectivity
to
the
customer
from
the
next
stop
announcement,
the
Facebook,
the
Twitter,
the
travel
planner,
the
signs,
the
bus,
stop,
shelters,
the
maps
so
there's
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
steps.
So
if
you
tweak,
you
can
adjust
those
things
if
you
start
to
rip
things
apart,
you're
affecting
the
interlining
and
all
the
subsets
of
the
downstream
effects.
So
that's
that's.
The
space
run
into
tweaks
of
those
a
handful
of
those
routes
within
those
dozen
okay.
B
A
A
Jer,
obviously,
Katherine
sorry
comes
from
Kenny
and
myself
have
there
spoken
to
you
specifically
that
the
number
11
and
I
do
understand
that
many
of
these
changes
are
not
going
to
be
rolled
back.
The
delay
doesn't
create
that
requirement.
The
11,
however,
is
one
where
we
have
a
very
specific
problem
that
is
raised
as
a
result
of
the
delay
in
the
LRT
line.
A
You
would
like
to
make:
do
you
know
which
changes
you
would
like
to
make
if
you
can
or
have
you
made
a
determination
as
to
whether
some
changes
are
not
going
to
be
something
you'd
like
to
make
it
all
so
I'm
scheduled
to
meet
with
Pat
the
next
2-3
days?
It's
an
integrated
team.
His
team
has
given
the
mission
right
after
fed
to
look
at
all
of
those
routes,
come
back
and
tell
me
how
many
were
affected
directly
because
of
the
LRT.
A
That's
where
I
get
that
number
about
a
dozen,
but
he's
told
all
of
the
and
that's
why
some
of
you
have
written
to
you
know
usually
a
very
quick
to
respond
back
to
I'm,
not
ignoring
emails,
I'm,
throwing
that
all
into
the
hopper
I
want
an
unbiased
view
on
it.
In
his
team,
with
mr.
charter
have
looked
at
every
one
of
those
issues
and
said
based
on
what
we're
seeing.
A
What
can
you
do
to
alleviate
what
you're
hearing
from
your
customers
and
will
we're
hearing
from
the
customers
as
pain
points,
and
how
do
we
stay
within
the
rules
that
doesn't
cause
us
that
major
opening
up
with
everything
for
those
dozen
solutes,
though,
do
you
accept
that
in
an
ideal
world
you
would
try
to
alleviate
it?
Are
you
acknowledging
to
us
today
that
you
know
residents
concerns
writers?
Concerns
are
legitimate
concerns.
A
B
A
Within
these
confines,
I'm
telling
you
this
is
a
very,
very
complicated
mission.
Yep
are
there
cost
implications
to
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
looking
for?
Thank
you.
That's
the
other
bookend.
We
only
have
X
number
of
buses.
We
only
have
X
number
of
operators
and
it's
I
don't
have
additional
funds,
so
that
again,
is
then
why
it's
an
integrated
team
looking
at
that
is
very,
very
complicated.
Even
if
we
did
have
the
money,
I
don't
have
the
buses,
so
it's
not
like.
A
We
can
start
doing
additional
things,
so
it's
a
very
restricted
environment
and
so
I
want
to
manage
the
expectations
today.
They're
going
to
be
tweaks
and
we'll
do
the
check
in
with
you
on
your
loop
on
the
11
and
say
look,
this
is
the
best
we
can
do
with
any
good
dialog.
Perhaps
you
give
us
something
you
haven't
thought
about
the
philosophically
speaking.
If
you
acknowledge
that
there
are
certain
changes
that
would
ideally
be
made
in
order
to
mitigate
the
impact
of
the
LRT
delay.
A
Is
that
then
something
that
we
can
go
after
RTG
for
I?
Don't
know
if
that's
the
restricted
them
I
know?
That's
not
the
restriction
because
times
not
on
your
side
to
unpack
and
then
repack
everything
you're
months,
you're
basically
be
doing
everything
that
you've
just
done
so
in
the
perfect
world,
it's
going
unpack
all
those
twelve
routes
bringing
back
to
what
they
were
before
to
do
that
we're
into
March
April
we're
into
a
rebooking
or
into
a
Rika
munication,
resetting
all
the
hostas
resetting
all
the
interline
grids
reconfiguring
all
that
stuff.
A
So
I'm
trying
to
demonstrate
to
you.
It's
not
that
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
It's!
What
are
all
the
restrictions
that
preclude
us
from
getting
to
that
perfect
environment?
When
we
do
it
me,
I
just
heard
the
customer
talk
about
I,
get
that
because
we're
ethical
things
that
we
are
going
to
be
looking
for,
if
we're
being
told
that
no,
the
train
will
be
up
before
we
can
accomplish
the
change
that
we're
seeking
I'm
looking,
particularly
at
the
number
11
we're
going
to
be
asking
I
think
some
hard
questions
around.