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From YouTube: Transportation Committee – October 7, 2020
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Transportation Committee
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A
Oh,
no,
no,
I
got
him.
I
got
him.
How
can
you
forget
matt
all
right,
as
noted
when
the
agenda
was
distributed,
we're
participating
by
electronic
means
of
zoom
instructions
for
the
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
submit
comments
or
participate
in
the
delegation
of
this
meeting
are
included
within
the
agenda.
Those
who
do
not
need
to
participate
in
the
meeting
can
also
watch
live
stream
on
the
city's
youtube
channel
for
those
participating
in
the
meeting
I'd.
A
A
Today's
call
at
any
point:
if
you
wish
to
speak,
you
can
use
the
raised
hand
function
on
the
zoom
call
the
committee
coordinator
will
be
watching
for
those
and,
as
usual,
we
have
our
five
minute
speaking
times
that
you
apply
so
as
mentioned
within
a
regretsa
alan
did
mention
he
will
be
a
little
bit
late,
but
he
will
be
joining
us.
We
have
no
declarations
of
interest
received
confirmation
of
the
minutes
september.
2Nd
2020.
are
those
are
those
received.
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A
Perfect
on
the
next
item.
Wonderful,
so
I
item
number
two
parking
services
2019
annual
report.
This
is
when
you
had
a
quick
question.
Riley.
I
have
one
question.
I
do
have
a
question.
Okay,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
item
number
three:
we
have
the
cycling
safety
review
of
the
high
volume
intersections.
A
We
do
have
a
staff
presentation,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
as
well
as
we
do
have
a
delegation
that
is
coming
to
speak
and
item
number
four,
the
always
stop
control
warrant
review,
which
I
know,
makes
many
accounts
very
happy.
Is
this
item
carried
or
did
you
want
to
hold
this
site
out?
Okay,
carrie.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
H
A
Great
comments,
I
I
have
no
issues,
I'm
looking
everyone's
nodding.
Is
this
item
carry
carried
good?
Thank
you.
Item
number
six.
The
addendum
for
the
strand
heard
drive
widening
environmental
assessment,
design
and
realignment
of
mckinney
casey.
No
speakers,
no
delegations,
no
presentations,
is
this
item
carried.
I.
C
I
am,
I
am
here
chair,
so
we
we
are
looking
at
starting
an
ea
and
subject
to
the
ea
results,
proceeding
with
probably
the
preliminary
and
detailed
design.
We
are
looking
at
350
000
estimate
for
the
ea
and
500
000
for
the
preliminary
and
detailed
design.
Those
are
estimates
based
on
the
the
information
we
have
today
and
we'll
be
confirmed
when
we
get
the
proposal
from
the
consultants.
C
No,
we,
we
are
not
sure,
because
we
don't
even
have
a
functional
design
in
place,
so
we
are
at
this
point.
What
we
are
trying
to
do
is
start
with
the
ea,
see
the
result
of
the
ea
and
then
based
on
that
follow
up
with
the
detailed
design,
and
at
that
point
we
are
going
to
start
having
some
ideas
across.
E
A
A
Thank
you
all
right.
So
we'll
go
back
to
item
number
one
on
the
agenda
and
I
believe
we
have
just
scroll
back
up
here.
Item
number
one
precise
park
link
contract
update.
Now
we
do
have
a
presentation
and
just
before
I,
while
we
get
staff
ready
to
roll
on
that,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
quick
notes
in
regards
to
this,
because
I
I
want
to
thank
staff.
They've
been
working
very
hard
on
this
and
as
members
of
council
that
have
been
around
the
table
can
attest
to
from
the
report.
A
There's
a
lot
of
work
and
analysis.
That's
gone
into
this
proposal.
Although
the
relationship
with
perspectives,
parkland
went
very
sour
for
a
number
of
years
since
2016
the
willingness
of
our
new
staff
and
parking
services
to
address
these
differences
led
to
the
proposed
resolution
before
us
today.
A
I
want
to
thank,
I
want
to
thank
staff,
especially
kevin
wiley
and
scott
caldwell,
with
the
support
of
legal
and
procurement
services
for
all
our
efforts
over
the
last
few
years
to
get
us
to
where
we
are
today,
thanks
to
the
spirit
and
the
collaboration
and
their
desire
to
find
a
solution,
working
and
assessing
all
options.
We're
considering
a
proposed
resolution
today
that
avoids
a
very
costly
legal
battle
and
good
value
for
the
taxpayer.
A
With
the
settlement
agreement
with
the
five-year
extension
of
the
contract,
we're
moving
forward
in
a
positive
way,
that's
fair
to
both
partners
and
provides
a
number
of
benefits
to
the
city.
One.
The
revenue
guarantee
remains
in
place
to
ensure
financial
performance
threshold
for
the
city,
two,
the
capital
and
life
cycle,
cost
of
the
720
paid
display
machines
continues
to
be
born,
mostly
by
a
precise
park
length
with
the
city.
A
I
I
I
For
a
bit
of
background
in
2007,
precise
parklink
approached
the
city
with
an
unsolicited
proposal,
which
was
submitted
under
the
ottawa
option
policy.
It
was
to
replace
the
coin
parking
meter
coin
parking
meters
with
pain,
display
machines,
install
parking
facility
payment
systems
and
provide
end-to-end
services.
I
The
primary
requirement
for
the
auto
option
is
the
for
the
proposal
to
be
innovative
and
a
good
value
to
the
city.
Precise's
proposal
was
both
in
that
they
guaranteed
a
25
increase
in
revenues
over
what
the
city
was
receiving
from
the
parking
meters.
The
10-year
contract
was
finalized
in
2010
and
began
in
2011.
I
Once
all
equipment
was
installed
and
tested
early
in
the
contract,
it
became
apparent
that
the
actual
revenues
were
not
meeting.
The
revenue
guarantee,
which
then
led
between
to
a
dispute
between
the
city
and
precise
payments
by
both
parties
were
halted
at
that
time,
but
precise
still
continued
to
provide
the
core
services
throughout
the
negotiations
in
2016.
Thanks
to
scott
and
his
team,
significant
progress
was
made
towards
improving
the
relationships
and
finding
a
resolution.
I
J
Scott,
thank
you
lila,
so
the
key
components
of
the
contract.
Sorry
next
slide,
please
kelly!
Thank
you.
The
key
components
of
the
contract
are
summarized
here.
The
10-year
contract,
with
precise,
is
scheduled
to
expire
in
just
over
a
year
from
now,
but
there
are
provisions
that
allow
for
an
extension.
If
both
parties
agree,
the
city
receives
all
revenue
through
the
contract
and
pays
precise
service
fees
on
a
pre-equip
pre-equipment
per
month
basis.
J
J
J
During
a
period
of
this
contract,
the
city
and
precise
were
locked
in
a
dispute
which
was
triggered
by
disagreements
and
how
the
revenue
guarantee
was
being
calculated
during
much
of
the
the
dispute.
Both
payments
by
both
parties
stopped,
however,
as
has
been
mentioned,
precise
continued
to
provide
the
required
core
services.
Through
this
time,
both
parties
have
been
able
to
reach
a
resolution
to
address
all
the
issues.
J
J
J
J
These
recommendations
had
to
have
had
to
do
with
ensuring
that
the
right
processes,
mechanisms
and
resources
were
in
place
to
support
the
financial
and
revenue
aspects
of
the
contract
and
staff
are
in
the
process
of
pursuing
and
or
implementing
all
the
recommendations
that
were
put
forward
next
slide.
Please.
J
So
I'm
looking
at
a
street
like
elgin,
which
has
been
recent
when
it
is
reconstructed,
there's
a
drop
in
demand
on
the
adjacent
streets
as,
in
addition,
obviously
to
the
main
street,
and
this
will
be
accounted
for
and
when
there's
a
delay
in
the
return
of
demand
levels.
This
will
also
be
accounted
for
with
respect
to
pay
by
phone
in
consideration
that
the
the
pay
by
phone
use
has
increased
beyond
what
was
originally
envisioned.
J
The
revenue
guarantee
adjustments
will
take
into
account
actual
pay
by
phone
use,
which
is
nearing
20
percent,
rather
than
the
five
percent
assumption
that
was
originally
in
the
precise
contract
next
slide,
please
so
the
impacts
of
these
changes
would
be
retroactive
and
are
captured
here,
and
this
is
part
of
the
resolution,
with
precise
of
the
9.7
million
dollars.
That
precise
is
paid
to
the
city
to
cover
the
revenue
guarantee
commitments
in
years.
One
to
five.
We
would
return
a
little
less
than
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
terms
of
the
equipment
payments.
J
The
adjustments
will
only
impact
the
amount
that
is
paid
towards
the
capital
account
from
each
party.
The
city's
shares
projected
to
increase
by
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
year
in
year.
Six
to
ten
of
the
agreement,
as
you
can
see
by
the
chart
on
the
right,
however,
a
significant
portion
of
the
equipment
costs
are
to
be
covered
by
precise
by
the
time
we
get
through
the
extension
period.
Again,
it
is
projected
that
the
city
will
receive
the
equipment
at
that
discount
about
15
of
the
total
cost
next
slide.
J
So
when
we
step
back
and
consider
our
options
without
the
extension,
the
most
logical
alternate
scenario
is
one
in
which
we
would
extend
with
precise
only
temporarily
until
a
folsom
procurement
could
be
run
for
a
new
vendor
and
system.
So
these
next
two
slides
assess
the
outcomes
under
each
scenario
and
provide
a
comparison.
J
J
next
slide,
please,
the
extension
does
require
payment
to
precise,
to
address
acknowledged
issues
with
the
revenue
guarantee
calculation
process.
On
the
other
side,
however,
the
resolution
resolves
the
speed
process,
so
it
is
expected
that
without
it,
reaching
any
other
form
of
resolution
can
carry
a
substantial
level
of
cost
and
potential
risk.
J
as
discussed.
There
are
multiple
financial
and
service
related
benefits,
and
we
are
confident
that
there
is
an
alignment
with
where
the
program
should
be
going
from
a
strategic
perspective
in
recognition
that
there
is
potential
for
a
high
degree
of
change.
The
contract
and
extension
provides
for
a
number
of
flexibilities
to
account
for
things
like
technology
as
well
as
increases
and
decreases
in
paid
parking,
and
it's
also
very
good
news.
J
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
scott.
I
know
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
this
and
anytime.
You
hear
the
word
lawyer
run.
That
being
said,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over.
We
have
a
three
speakers
with
their
hands
up.
Counselor
deans
is
first
followed
by
councillor
deruse
and
then
vice
chair,
libra
councillor
dean
supports
yours.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
lila
and
scott
for
the
presentation.
I
appreciate
it.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
about
this.
I
mean
I
have
to
say
I
don't
love
it.
I
understand
why
you're
recommending
it,
but
I
I
I
don't
love
it
because
you
know
we've
had
a
precarious
relationship
with
this
group
and
we're
giving
that
we're
recommending
a
five-year
extension.
D
J
The
chair,
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
you
know
the
extension
period.
If
that's
where
we
we
wind
up
going,
we
will
have
the
ability
and
the
option
to
either
retain
the
equipment
or
return
it
to
precise
and
effectively
walk
away
from
whatever
balance
is
remaining
on.
Our
on
our
capital
account
the
the
lifespan.
J
Absolutely
so,
as
part
of
the
contract,
the
the
equipment,
the
payment
on
the
actual
pieces
of
equipment
didn't
start
until
year,
six,
so
it
was
a
bit
of
a
delayed
payment
and
we're
paying
that
those
equipment
costs
annually
based
on
our
revenues
and
we're
sharing
that
those
costs
so
they're
we're
gradually
paying
down
the
balance
of
what
is
owed
to
precise
for
the
equipment.
When
we
get
to
the
end
even
the
end
of
an
extension
term,
we
are
anticipating
a
balance
to
be
remaining.
J
So
we
would
have
the
option
to
to
walk
away
from
that
balance
and-
and
that
would
be
part
of
our
process
to
procure
a
new
system
going
back.
I
think
to
the
the
question
the
life's
better,
the
life
cycle.
The
lifespan
of
these
machines
is
probably
you
know,
averages
out
around
seven
years
give
or
take.
So
the
fact
that
we
are
updating
and
refurbishing
all
the
equipment
right
now
will
ensure
that
we
have
the
equipment
is
in
good
condition
and
is
in
good
operation
until
the
end
of
2026..
J
J
D
J
I
wasn't
fully
known
or
understood
so
what
we
are
proposing
here
is
it's
just
a
bit
of
a
using
the
information
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
now
and
choosing
not
to
hold
the
the
vendor
accountable
for
things
that
are
outside
of
their
control.
In
terms
of
those
you
know,
the
corresponding
impacts
of
of
a
major
reconstruction.
J
J
So
we
yeah
the
absolutely
the
there
are
provisions
in
the
contract
which
allow
us
to
extend
for
five
years,
if
agreed
to
by
both
parties
or
terminate
at
the
end
of
the
ten
years
or
extend
on
a
month
by
month
basis.
The
five-year
extension
is
part
of
the
the
resolution
of
the
the
settlement
that
was
reached
with
precise,
and
we
have
an
agreement
on
the
terms
in
order
to
extend
on
a
month
by
month
basis
on
our
short
term
basis.
J
D
J
F
D
J
D
H
H
Are
we
thinking
at
all
because
we
got
a
lots
of
requests
for
prepaid
card
or
some
kind
of
payment
without
being
either
through
the
phone
or
through
credit
cards,
especially
for
contractors
that
they
have
a
technician,
downtown
and
they're
traveling
all
the
core
and
will
be
easier
for
them
to
actually
track
their
their
employees
and
help
them
with
prepaid
card?
Is
it
any
thought
or
something?
Maybe
you
can
just
keep
it
in
your
mind,.
J
K
K
J
J
So
because
that
was
part
of
the
resolution,
that
is
something
we
have
to.
We
don't
have
a
performance
measure
built
into
the
contract
with
a
liquid
liquidated
damage
or
what
have
you.
So
that
is
something
we
would
have
to
follow
up
on
likely
through
the
dispute
resolution
process
that
was
referred
to
earlier.
E
E
E
E
J
Do
we
take
it
in-house?
Do
we
put
it
out
to
tender
now
or
do
we
go
proceed
with
the
five-year
extension
and
you
know
based
on
primarily
those
financial
benefits,
but
also
you
know
some
service
based
benefits,
though,
that
conclusion
universally
has
been
to
of
all
the
options
available
to
us,
is
to
proceed
with
the
that
this
five-year
extension
with
respect
to
the
the
in-house
piece.
We
did
have
it
as
an
in-house
operation.
J
E
This
is
based
on
revenue,
but
there
are
other
very
important
goals
that
come
with
with
parking
paying
display
machines,
those
those
goals
need
to
be
front
and
center,
but
this
contract
is
based
on
revenue.
So
I
appreciate
the
work
that's
gone
in.
Certainly
I
I
just
think
we
need
to
do
a
bit
more
work
to
actually
have
this.
Make
sure
that
this
is
the
best
financial
deal
and
that
to
see
the
in-house
option?
E
I
I
really
want
to
see
that
in-house
option
come
back,
because
I
think
we
did
pretty
well
with
this,
for
you
know
the
decades
before
we
had
these
folks
come
in
under
that
auto
option,
without
without
competition,
then,
and
and
still
no
competition.
So
I
don't
think
this
is
one
I
can.
I
can
support
today,
but
I
appreciate
that
the
answers.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
don't
have
a
question.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
scott
and
his
team,
for
for
reaching
out
to
council
on
this
committee
and
present
their
that
report.
So
scott,
the
heartfelt,
thank
you.
I
know
you
know.
Maybe
not
everyone
is
going
to
love
it,
but
I
think,
under
those
circumstances,
is,
is
a
great
deal
for
the
city,
in
my
opinion,
far
better
than
what
we
have
seen
in
the
past.
So
I
just
want
to
say,
congratulations,
scott
and
your
team
on
the
job
wellness.
A
Great
thank
you
for
that
eli,
and
I
want
to
echo
that
as
well.
A
tremendous
amount
of
work
has
gone
into
this
and
just
a
couple
of
points
that
I've
kind
of
picked
up
on
when
councilor
minard
made
mention
of
the
technology
improved.
Absolutely
when
it
first
started
it
was,
it
was
problematic.
I
won't
name
the
counselor,
but
we
were
out
one
day.
A
They
used
the
pay
and
display
and
they
still
had
a
ticket
on
their
window
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
they
had
to
figure
that
out
they've
cleaned
all
that
up
the
technology
seems
to
be
working
far
better
than
it
was
before
and
to
counselor
deanza's
point
yeah
over
our
tenure
we've
seen
some
real
stinker
contracts.
Usually
it's
related
to
garbage.
A
So
you
know
that's
why
we
want
to
have
the
extra
due
diligence
and
extra
time
to
look
at
these
things,
and
I
think
you
know,
staff
have
done
a
tremendous
job,
especially
with
the
additional
groups
putting
extra
eyes
on
it
and
they've
they've
kind
of
polished
this
one
up
a
little
bit
for
us.
So
again,
thank
you
to
the
staff
that
have
worked
on
this.
So
on
that
one
we'll
record
the
dissent
of
councilor
monarch,
is
this
item
carried?
A
Okay.
Thank
you
on
to
item
number
two
parking
services,
2019
annual
report.
I
believe
we
had
a
couple
people
up
in
the
room,
so
we
got
to
counselor
brockington.
I
see
matt
using
his
real
hand,
which
is
versus
his
virtual
hand,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
so
we'll
record
that
too
so
with
councillor
brockington.
L
Thank
you
sharon
good
morning,
everyone
just
a
question
to
staff
about
our
parking
garages.
I
did
read
the
report
and
am
interested
with
the
six
parking
garages
the
city
of
ottawa
owns
and
I'm
specifically
interested
in
ensuring
that
the
revenues
that
these
garages
bring
in
not
the
global
parking
revenues,
but
the
revenues
that
each
parking
garage
generates
is
sufficient
for
the
costs
associated
of
these
parking
garages.
If
you
look
at
the
staff
report,
for
example,
it
says
the
somerset
cambridge
lot
resurfacing,
included
new
asphalt,
curbs
line,
painting,
probably
very
much
needed,
but
that's
expensive.
L
J
So
we,
our
revenues,
do
far
exceed
our
our
costs
as
with
any
facility
or
building
there
are
upkeep
requirements
and-
and
we
fulfill
those
and
then
work
with
our
partners
in
infrastructure
services
to
ensure
that
everything's
you
know
in
in
safe
and
in
proper
working
order,
but
our
nor
revenues
for
all
of
our
offspring
facilities
are
over
eight
million
dollars
and
our
total
expenses
are
about
five
and
a
half
million
dollars.
So
we
we
are
in
a
in
a
good
position.
J
M
L
J
Jeremy,
we're
we
have
clarity
now
in
our
in
our
municipal
heart
management
strategy,
which
which
helps
us
to
frame.
You
know
parking
as
a
service
that
we're
providing
and-
and
you
know,
from
some
perspectives,
we
we
provide
parking
in
a
little
different
way
than
the
private
sector
does
right,
we're
more
so
in
interested
and
invested
in
ensuring
short-term
parking
to
support
businesses,
tourism
etc,
and
we
do
use
our
our
garages
and
our
search
slots
to
do
that
as
well
as
our
on-street
parking.
L
Okay,
I'll
leave
it
there.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
public's
investment
is
paying
off.
You
say
again:
the
revenues
exceed
cost,
that's
good,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
the
long
term,
interest
of
the
taxpayer
building
parking
garages
when
we're
trying
to
get
people
in
lrt
and
active
transportation
is
overall
in
the
best
interest
of
everyone.
But
thank
you
for
that
information.
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
good
questions
by
by
my
colleague,
scott
want
to
come
back
on
a
couple
of
things
that
sort
of
attached
to
that
you
give
a
in
the
annual
report.
You
give
a
a
a
summary
of
the
improvements
that
have
come
into
play,
but
I
I
don't
see
kind
of
a
five-year
10-year
asset
renewal
plan.
G
So
I
wonder
if
you
have
that
and
if
so,
if
you
could
compose
that
in
your
annual
report
going
forward,
because
that
I
think
riley's
point
is
an
interesting
one,
is
you
know
for
every
100
we
collect
out
of
parking
specifically
parking
lots?
How
much
does
it
cost
us
to
operate?
That
and
it'd
be
nice
to
start
start
having
that
that
number
and
you
so
wonder
specifically
on
the
capital,
investments
or
requirements
for
each
of
the
the
parking
garages?
If
you
have
such
a
report.
J
Absolutely
so
the
chair,
the
the
strategy
update
that
we
completed
last
year,
actually
envisioned
that
there
would
be
a
capital
program
plan
built
into
this
annual
report,
and
that
is
something
that
we
had
intended
on.
But
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
right
now
in
terms
of
you
know
our
revenues
and
and
needing
to
sort
out
what
what
2020
means
and
specifically
as
it
relates
to
the
parking
reserve
fund.
J
G
J
G
J
G
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
would
be
my
sort
of
range
of
summary
in
the
annual
report
is
you
know
you
have
a
good
breakdown
of
how
much
we
generate
from
on
street
versus
lots,
but
then
I
don't
see
a
full
breakdown.
I
can't
I
can't
see
which
asset
is
over
performing
underperforming
and
and
and
share
that
with
bias
or
or
other
community
members
in
our
zone,
and
that
leads
me
to
maybe
the
the
second
one,
which
is
partnership,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
large
buildings
being
redeveloped.
G
How
does
your
team
work
with
the
private
sector
and
specifically
the
city
of
ottawa's
development
team,
to
leverage
existing
buildings
that
are
going
up
and
introducing
public
parking
in
some
of
those
when
when
appropriate,
because
I
would
you
know
the
the
gleeb
example
is
an
interesting
one
right
where
a
couple
of
years
after
we
built
that
garage,
a
number
of
properties
along
bank
have
rebuilt.
Could
we
have
are
our
in
plans
of
being
rebuilt?
Could
we
have-
and
you
know,
einstein
2020?
G
Could
we
have
created
a
number
of
partnerships
with
the
private
developers
and
create
public
parking
through
the
through
that?
So
wonder
if
you
could,
I
I
hadn't
seen
anything
around
strengthening
the
partnership
in
your
honorable
report
and
leveraging
private
investments.
Could
you
maybe
speak
to
that.
J
G
J
So
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
we
were
roughly
20
million
dollars,
but
there
will
be
impacts
on
the
park
and
reserve
fund
of
the
revenue
decreases
that
we've
seen
in
terms
of
our
parking
few
revenues.
And
we
don't
have
a
clear
picture
of
that
at
this
point
in
time.
But
we
obviously
that'll
become
clear
as
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
year
and
and
and
can
fully
assess
that.
G
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
sort
of
use
the
segway
here
but
back
to
the
core
question,
so
you
have
the
parking
reserve
fund
and
then
you
have
an
opportunity
for
partnership.
How
does
that
work?
Do
you
have
to
come
back
to
committee
for
delegation
of
authority?
Do
you
have
to
build
a
business
case
like
what
is
what
sort?
What
are
the
processes
for
for
your
team
to
bring
forward
a
a
partnership
in
terms
of
leveraging.
J
Yeah
well
absolutely
sure
a
lot
of
work
would
go
into
that
to
to
build
a
business
case
and
then
likely,
through
the
budget
or
through
a
through
a
separate
report,
to
receive
the
authority
to
allocate
any
funds
that
we
would
require.
And
what
we
know
is
that
there's
not
one.
This
is
a
kind
of
new
ground
in
terms
of
for
municipalities
and
these
partnerships,
so
there's
lots
of
different
ways
to
do
it
so
as
figuring
out
exactly
whether
it
would
be
an
upfront
investment
or
some
sort
of
lease
arrangement.
G
You
know
a
bit
of
a
sensitive
time
to
consider
the
paid
parking
in
other
zones
yet
making
sure
that
every
business
area
is
competitive
in
that
realm
and
not
holding
on
to
legacies
compared
to
other
zones,
or
vice
versa.
How
do
you
see
that?
What
do
you
see
in
2021
as
it
relates
to
considering
considering
the
paid
parking
on
street
in
other
bia
zones,.
J
So,
coming
off
of
the
strategy
update
last
year,
we
had
a
lot
of
plans
for
2020
in
terms
of
moving
to
more
more
a
more
progressive
rate,
setting,
structure
and
and
considering
paid
parking
in
in
other
areas,
with
our
new
rate
setting
guidelines.
But
as
with
many
other
things,
our
plans
have
been
somewhat
sidetracked
this
year.
J
Once
we
have
some
some
confidence
at
park
and
demand
levels
in
various
areas
are
returning
or
returned
to
near
normal
levels,
we'll
be
able
to
get
out
and
do
the
data
collection
that
we
need
to
do
to
to
do
all
that.
To
consider
you
know
those
variable
rates
as
well,
as
you
know,
assess
for
paper
in
different
areas.
A
E
E
You've
got
a
lot
of
strategies
going
on
and
consultations
happening,
so
I
just
want
to
say
appreciate
how
much
work
has
gone
in
lately
this
this
report,
there
there's
a
few
very
good
things
that
I
that
I
see
in
here
the
the
technology
roadmap
for
the
pay
and
display
excellent
great
to
see
that
the
car
share
piece
around.
You
know
the
the
use
of
our
off
street
parking
capacity
and
and
the
trend
we're
seeing
in
in
north
america.
E
You
know,
maybe
families
don't
need
a
car
or
two
cars.
They
can
supplement
with
a
car
share
and
the
way
you're
approaching.
That
is
excellent.
You
know
the
the
bike
parking
strategy,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
progress
there
and
so
appreciate
that
in
this
in
this
report
as
well,
I
have
two
two
quick
questions
for
you.
One
is
following
up
on.
E
I
had
this
question
last
year
and
I
think
there
was
going
to
be
some
follow-up
is
around
the
makeup
of
the
the
parking
stakeholder
consultation
group
and
I
see
a
couple
of
changes
there.
I
just
wanted
to
to
ask
about
two
of
those
so
right
now,
there's
three
community
association,
reps
and
four
bia
reps,
and
I
think
the
request
last
year
is:
can
we
add
another
community
association,
rep
or
the
fca?
E
I
see
you're,
adding
the
fca
in
place
of
one
of
the
ca
reps
and
I
would
just
encourage
add
them.
In
addition
to
those
ca,
reps
are
are
important
and
especially,
I
would
love
to
get
you
one
in
my
area
where
there's
some
there's
some
big
issues.
So
I'd
love
to
get
one
there,
but
I
think
if
we
can
add
an
fca
rep
in
addition
to
to
the
the
ca
reps
that
are
there,
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
just
having
only
one
rep
for
the
cycling,
pedestrian
and
tdm.
E
J
So
the
and
all
the
composition
of
the
parking
stakeholder
consultation
group
is
as
defined
by
the
terms
of
reference
which,
which
were
approved
as
part
of
the
strategy
update
last
fall.
So
in
order
to
revise
that
to
something
we'd
probably
have
to
take
back
to
to
community
council
in
turn,
the
the
community
association
representatives
is
something
we
can.
I
think
those
are
discussions
we've
had
in
the
past
and
take
that
offline.
J
There
is
an
opportunity
there,
as
we
are
actually
still
sitting
with
a
vacant
community
association
seat,
and
I
look
forward
to
following
you
up
with
you
on
that
and
in
terms
of
the
cycling
pdm
objection
seat.
We
do
have
it
filled
in
order
to
increase
the
again
alter
the
composition
of
psg.
It's
something
we'd
have
to
go
back
through
community
council
on,
but
we
have.
We
have
an
excellent
member
in
that
seat
at
the
at
the
present
time.
E
That's
great,
no,
I
think
I
gave
direction
previously
just
associated
with
that.
I
remember
the
motion
coming
last
year
and
I
think
we
talked
then
so
yeah
I'll
follow
up
offline
with
you
and
we'll
we'll
see
what
possibilities
exist
there.
The
other.
The
other
piece
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
is
our
rates,
our
on-street
parking
rates.
Is
there
any
anticipation
of
those
changing
this
year
or
you
know,
transit
school
is
proposed
to
go
up
2.5.
Is
there
any
change?
J
Absolutely
chair,
so
we
applied
that
increase
to
the
to
the
maximum
parking
rate
so
where
it
was
three
dollars
an
hour.
It
is
now
350
an
hour
and
I
was
implemented
in
january,
and
that
was
a
a
follow-on
to
the
to
that
strategy.
Update
one
of
the
outcomes
to
that.
Moving
forward.
From
that
again,
the
intent
was
to
proceed
with
our
rate
new
rate
setting
guidelines
which
allow
us
to
move
rates
up
and
down.
E
N
N
I
do
have
a
question,
though,
and
I
know
that
this
is
a
20
2019
report,
so
you
may
not
have
these
answers,
but
2020
is
completely
different.
I
mean
the
pandemic
has
changed
our
parking
facilities
nobody's
in
them
at
the
beginning
and
they're,
probably
not
there
right.
Now,
it's
probably
going
to
linger
into
2021..
N
My
understanding
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is,
is
that
the
municipal
parking
management
strategy
requires
that
the
municipal
parking
management
program
be
financially
self-sustaining,
and
that
includes
the
contributions
to
the
parking
reserve
fund.
So
are
you
able
to
say
right
now,
if
that's
going
to
be
the
case
in
for
this
year
and
going
into
next
year,
and
if
not,
does
staff
have
any
plans
on
how
we're
going
to
address
that
issue?.
J
Chair
so
obviously
yeah
our
parking
revenues
have
been
experienced
a
significant
impact
this
year
as
a
result
result
of
coverage.
I
mean
we
were.
We
were
way
down
on
our
revenues
through
the
you
know,
the
march
april
may
time
period
and
we're
we're
slowly.
We've
gotten
we're
rebounding
and
in
some
areas
we're
actually
very
close
to
the
to
the
revenues
that
we're
seeing
prior
to
we
in
part,
part
of
managing
the
park
and
reserve
fund,
and
this
was
part
of
the
strategy
that
was
tabled
last
year.
J
But
that
is
one
of
the
key
purposes
of
the
parking
reserve
fund
is
to
to
walk
us
through
that
and
then
to
help
make
us
whole
for
that
through
that
process.
So,
like
I
said,
fortunately
we're
seeing
our
revenues
bounce
back
up,
but
the
impacts
that
we've
seen
in
2020,
we
will
be
able
to
address
through
leveraging
a
partnership
fund.
J
J
N
So,
recognizing
that
it's
it's
more
than
just
not
seeing
parking
revenues,
but
it's
also
the
redis
distribution
of
these
monies
into
other
pockets,
whether
it's
parking
or
transit
related.
Do
you
have
a
timeline
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
for
when
you'll
be
reporting
back
to
this
committee
about
the
impacts?
Probably
in
q1
of
2021?
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
have
a
kind
of
an
update
at
committee
so
that
we
know
what
we're
working
with
next
year.
J
Chair
absolutely
that
will
probably
best
suited
as
part
of
our
2020
annual
report,
which
it
won't
wait
until
the
fall.
Obviously
we're
just
normally
timed
towards
the
end
of
q1
or
in
the
q2
of
the
following
year.
So
our
2020
annual
report
will
be
in
the
spring
of
2021
and
we'll
have
our
annual
report,
which
will
include
that
capital
program
plan
which
I
referred
to
earlier,
which
will
track
through
where
we're
projecting
that
parking
reserve
fund
balance
to
to
sit
over
the
next
five
years
or
so.
N
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
scott.
I'm
sure
you
are
already
aware
of
what
I'm
going
to
ask
you
about
I'll,
build
a
little
bit
on
my
colleague,
counselor
dude,
ass's
questions.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
we
have
a
real
opportunity
with
the
lrt
stretching
past
the
green
belt
in
both
the
east
and
the
west,
and
that
we
certainly
do
face
parking
pressures.
Even
during
covid
I
mean
anybody
who
has
has
been
downtown
during
stage
three
of
this
pandemic.
C
I'm
wondering
if
you
might
be
able
to
speak
a
little
about
a
little
bit
about
your
future
plans
to
expand
a
parking
outside.
The
greenbelt
to
you
know,
be
more
environmentally
friendly,
encourage
people
to
take
public
transit
and
ensure
that
we're
not
you
know,
burning
ghgs
every
day,
going
back
and
forth
from
from
the
burbs
and
the
rural
areas
to
downtown.
J
So
our
where,
where
we
get
involved
with
the
where
the
parking
rides
is
on
the
maintenance
side
and
then
that
that
surplus
parking
reserve
fund
revenues,
we
we
have
the
ability
at
least
to
allocate
some
of
those
funds
as
as
priorities
dictate.
But
we
don't
get
involved
at
nearly
the
same
extent
in
terms
of
the
the
strategic
approach
to
park
and
rides
and
the
construction
of
park
and
rides.
J
C
A
B
A
Thank
you
item
number
three.
We
have
the
cycling
safety
review
of
high
volume
intersections.
We
do
have
a
staff
presentation
and
after
the
staff
presentation
we'll
be
going
to
our
delegations
and
then,
of
course,
the
usual
fashion,
we'll
go
back
to
questions
from
counselors
as
we're
teeing.
This
up,
I'm
just
going
to
have
a
quick
couple
of
notes.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
members
of
the
cycling
and
the
cycling
community
that
have
been
really
focused
on
this
they've
put
together
a
list
of
74
high
volume
intersections.
A
A
This
is
not
a
rollout
plan
which
requires
a
number
of
years
and
lots
of
funding
to
achieve
funding,
which
is
scarce
clearly
with
we're
dealing
with
right
now
with
budget.
Do
do
do
code
of
19.
and
remind
members
of
council
that
the
discussions
on
funding
should
take
place
at
budget
rather
than
the
context
of
this
morning's
committee
meeting,
but
at
least
we
know
where
the
improvements
are
required
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
deliver
to
increase
safety
to
our
vulnerable
road
users.
A
I
certainly
encourage
transportation
staff
to
work
closely
with
their
staff
and
infrastructure
to
identify
and
capitalize
on
those
specific
opportunities
and
since
10
intersections
on
the
list
are
federal
lands
across
the
city.
Mayor
watson,
vice
chair
leifer,
and
I
will
be
jointly
sending
a
letter
today
to
the
ncc
ceo
toby
nussman.
You
know
that
guy
asked
him
to
proceed
with
their
own
cycling
safety
review
of
those
intersections
that
are
in
the
jurisdiction
of
the
ncc
and
work
with
us
as
shared
jurisdictions.
A
I'm
hopeful
that
our
partners
will
work
together,
we'll
be
able
to
improve
safe
cycling
conditions
across
the
city
of
ottawa,
maybe
not
immediately,
but
nonetheless
concentrate
and
on
a
really
impactful
way,
thanks
again
to
our
staff
for
their
diligent
work.
I
very
much
look
forward
to
the
discussion
this
morning
so
on
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff.
They
can
load
up
the
presentation
and
then
we'll
go
to
delegations.
M
Thank
you,
chair
tierney,
so
I'm
here
today
with
christa
tanaka,
the
road
safety
and
traffic
investigation
program
manager
of
the
city
as
well
as
kathy
karuma.
Our
senior
engineer
for
road
safety
kathy
is
going
to
do
a
short
presentation
to
provide
some
context
on
the
work
that
her
and
the
team
did
over
the
last
year.
B
B
These
intersections
were
identified
as
part
of
a
preliminary
screening
exercise
that
was
based
on
a
combination
of
high
cycling
volumes,
high
volumes
of
turning
motor
vehicles,
high
posted
speeds
and
roadway
classifications,
collisio
historical
collision
data
was
also
reviewed.
Data
from
2014
to
2018
was
also
considered
cycling.
Collision
data
was
also
considered
in
the
screening
process
of
the
74
intersections.
B
B
B
Once
staff
selected
the
intersections
for
further
review,
a
consulting
firm
was
hired
to
conduct
a
review
of
each
of
the
locations,
so
their
analysis
included
collision
data
and
traffic
data
analysis,
completing
site
visits
at
each
of
the
locations,
developing
a
menu
of
potential
short-term
counter
measures
such
as
pavement
markings
signs,
speed,
display
boards
and
flexible
signs,
developing
a
preliminary
long-term
conceptual
design
to
provide
separated,
cycling
facilities
and
or
protected
intersections,
and
as
well
as
developing
rough
odor
of
magnitude,
cost
estimates
for
all
the
conceptual
designs
that
were
developed.
So
the
total
was
approximately
high
level.
B
B
Next
slide,
please
also
moving
forward.
We
will
continue
to
seek
opportunities
to
implement
the
short-term
countermeasures
that
were
developed
through
the
study
to
help
improve
intersection
safety
where
applicable,
and
the
implementation
of
these
short-term
measures
can
be
completed
via
existing
city
programs
depending
on
established
priorities
and
the
funding
available.
A
O
Thank
you
chair
first
off
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
and
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
city
for
undertaking.
What's
been
a
pretty
fulsome
review,
you
know
from
what
we
see
it
covers
all
parts
of
the
city
across
several
wards
and
reflects
a
lot
of
local
priorities,
and
obviously
did
you
know,
did
a
great
job
of
talking
to
groups
such
as
our
own
and
stakeholders
within
the
city.
So
I
think
it's
you
know
an
excellent
footing
for
starting
this
discussion.
O
You
know
from
that
perspective,
I'm,
you
know,
really
encouraged.
You
know
when
I
see
the
list
of
projects
and
some
of
the
proposed
solutions
to
see
that
they
lean
heavily
on
vision,
zero
design
principles
that
recognize
that
infrastructure
should
be
designed
in
such
a
way
that
the
most
vulnerable
people
on
the
roads,
people
walking
people
on
bikes,
people
in
mobility
devices
are
afforded
a
high
level
of
protection
through
engineering
with
designs
such
as
protected
intersections.
O
In
the
context
of
a
lot
of
the
transportation
investments
we
make
to
start
tackling
these
intersections
by
my
count,
that's
about
a
quarter
of
what
we'll
pay,
for
example,
to
widen,
stranded
road
or
you
know
a
small
fraction
of
the
cost
to
widen
some
of
other
the
other
roads
in
our
city.
These
are
funded
through
the
city's
budget.
O
Well,
unfortunately,
at
this
time
these
critical
safety
investments
are
not
at
this
point
from
what
I've
seen
there's
about
800
thousand
dollars
that
can
be
made
available
for
work
on
one
intersection,
and
while
that's
a
welcome
investment,
we
need
to
go
a
lot
further.
It's
you
know.
If
we're
serious
about
eliminating
gas
on
our
roads,
we
do
need
to
figure
out
how
how
to
fund
this
list
of
projects.
O
Obviously,
some
will
be
easily
funded
through
mechanisms
like
development
charges
or
broader
infrastructure
renewal
projects,
but
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
this
list
of
projects
a
high
priority
and
moving
to
to
address
them
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
from
where
I'm
sitting.
I
think
there
are
three
ways:
council
can
show
leadership
on
safety
for
vulnerable
users.
O
O
So
I
would
urge
council
to
to
look
and
find
a
way
to
make
sure
that
this
gets.
This
gets
implemented
quickly.
We're
aware
that
there's
all
sorts
of
funding
pressures
for
the
city,
but
really
this
is
a
not
a
big
investment
to
make,
and
it
will
go
a
long
way
to
making
our
roads
safer
for
everyone
and
building
on
the
the
work.
You
know
that
we've
all
we've
all
undertaken
to
make
the
city
a
much
more
bike
friendly
place.
Thank
you.
K
For
example,
I'm
taking
a
look
at
the
corner
of
bayview
and
somerset
street,
and
there
are
things
I
recommend,
like
you
know,
prohibiting
right
turns,
for
example,
that
doesn't
cost
a
lot
of
money.
Unfortunately,
that
list
is
not
available
in
an
easy
to
digest
format.
There's
no
sort
of
bullet
points,
so
things
are
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money
and
things
that
aren't
can
bike
ottawa.
Take
a
look
at
some
of
those
items
and-
and
let
us
know
which
are
you
know,
reasonably
pursuable
in
the
sort
of
immediate.
O
Term
we'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
You
know
obviously
there's
you
know.
Generally
speaking,
you
safety
requires
a
lot
of
infrastructure
investments
in
a
lot
of
instances,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
things
we
can
do
like
you
pointed
out
in
this
particular
instance,
like
you
know,
prohibiting
rights
on
reds
at
busier
intersections
in
the
core
that
go
a
long
way
to
improving
safety,
so
we'd
be
yeah.
We'd,
be
glad
to
look
at
that
that
list
and
provide
some
feedback.
K
A
G
Okay,
yeah,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
positive
here.
We
we
have
a
scan
of
some
of
the
most
challenging
locations
want
to
bring.
So
you
know
I
sort
of
use
the
in
list
and
the
outlist.
The
staff
have
proposed
one
of
the
locations
on
the
outlist
that
I
want
to.
I
want
correction
for
so
that
location
is
basically
a
missing
multi-use
pathway
at
cummings,
bridge
and
north
river.
It
is
an
ncc
pathway.
Yes,
we
are
redoing
montreal
road,
but
we're
not
correcting.
G
We're
were
tr
which
were
improving
the
ad
great
condition,
no
question,
but
we're
not
solving
it
like
what
was
done
at
riverside
and
bank,
for
example.
So,
under
the
staff
you
know
referral
it
says
basically
that
montreal
road
revitalization
is
currently
under
construction,
but
that
doesn't
solve
the
the
safety
issue
for
vulnerable
users
here
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
going
north
to
south
or
south
to
north,
along
the
ncc
multi-use
pathway
across
seven
trail
road.
So
I
don't
know
how
to
go
about
that.
M
Change
chair
through
you,
so
we
are
doing
some
improvements
at
that
intersection,
although
it
is
that
great,
like
you
mentioned,
we'd
have
to
work
with
the
ncc
like
we
did
at
bank
and
riverside
that
that
came
up
about
five
six
years
ago
and
and
there
was
room
to
to
do
that
and
and
working
with
them.
So
we
can
take
that
back
and
go
back
to
the
ncc
to
see
if
there's
opportunities,
I'm
just
not
sure
I
mean
at
the
bank
and
riverside.
M
G
Okay,
just
so
we
don't
run
around
I
before
I
read
this
report,
I'm
engaged
with
the
city's
tmp
team
and
I'm
also
engaged
with
the
ncc
on
their
pathway
report,
which
was
public
yesterday.
So
you
know
I'm
happy
of
the
review.
I
I
just.
I
want
to
remove
the
expectation
that
out
out
of
this
report,
it's
a
resolved
issue
because
then
it
creates
this
concern
it.
M
Yeah,
I
guess
just
to
comment
on
that.
Maybe
miss
chi
can
provide
sort
of
a
broader
context,
but
I
mean
this
list
was
looking
at
the
intersection
improvements
and,
and
the
montreal
road
is
improving
it
from
what
was
there
prior
to
the
reconstruction,
and
so,
if
there's
opportunities
to
enhance
it
even
more
by
doing
this
pathway,
it
won't
preclude
us
from
doing
and
looking
at
that,
I
don't
know
if
that
provides
you
comfort,
but
again
this.
This
was
a
time,
a
snapshot
in
time
for
the
location.
M
It
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
in
the
next
few
months
or
a
few
years
of
the
other
intersections
that
get
identified,
because
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
in
cycling
usage,
and
it
could
be
some
intersections
that
weren't
on
the
list
today
that
may
be
required
to
be
added
or
reviewed
and
and
that'll
continue
to
occur.
So
this
is
a
work
in
progress
and
we'll
continue
to
to
strive
for
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
allays
your
concerns.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
don't
debate
that
there
there'll
be
improvements
through
montreal
road
project.
It's
just
the
ad
grade
issue
remains
right,
so
I
I
recognize
it's
a
longer
term
improvement
and
it's
a
different
conversation.
I
was
directed
to
the
tmp
in
terms
of
project,
I'm
glad
to
follow
that
route.
I
just
don't
want
to
be
pushed
out
because
of
this
report
now
saying
that
it's
addressed
that
I'm
just
it's
a
question
of
process
more
than
intent.
I
guess
in
this
question.
Okay,
maybe.
N
Oh
hello,
counselor.
Yes,
this
issue
you've
raced
with
us
before
and
it
does
require
some
investigation
because
even
physically
whether
we
can
put
a
pathway
beneath
the
structure,
so
we
will
continue
to
work
with
phil's
team
on
the
at-grade
improvements
until
such
time
that
we
know
that
there's
there
is
an
alternative
solution,
but
right
now
we
don't
have
that
information
yet
and
even
like.
G
Okay,
now
that's
good
to
hear
and
clarify
more
of
a
general
general
set
of
comments
so
other
than
the
ncc
element.
Are
there
other
private
accesses?
Are
there
hell
rephrased?
Are
there
other
accesses
that
are
privately
owned,
that
were
identified
or
is
it
ultimately?
I
know
the
chair
was
speaking
earlier
of
of
writing
to
the
ncc.
I
would
certainly
favor
that,
but
I
wonder
if
we've
recognized
others,
you
know
shopping
malls
or
or
or
employment
nodes
that
tie
into
the
intersections
and
have
been
reviewed.
B
Yes,
thanks
phil.
Yes,
it
is
noted
in
the
report
if
there
is
potential
property
impacts
to
adjacent
near
intersections,
but
that
hasn't
been
reviewed
in
detail
at
this
point
in
time.
Basically,
it's
just
indicating
whether
or
not
property
would
be
required
to
implement
the
proposed
conceptual
designs.
G
G
It
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
to
make
sure
that
those
are
done
right
or
else
local
councillors
have
to
come
in
with
temporary
seasonal
traffic.
Calming
so
can
can
staff
just
articulate
and
share
with
us.
The
gains
can,
even
if
even
without
funding
as
private
developments
and
and
subdivisions
are
approved,
and
so
on.
How
do
we
ensure
that
the
lessons
learned
out
of
these
intersections
and
and
road,
widths
and
so
on,
are
are
applied
in
in
the
planning
process
or
in
the
planning
approvals
process?.
N
So
we
expect
that
to
occur
and
actually
in
our
policies,
we
have
that
a
lot
of
the
cycling
infrastructure
could
be
or
should
be,
must
be
built
by
developers
if
you
know
for
their
segment.
So
it's
not
just
city
funded
projects
that
get
the
that
promote
or
advance
the
cycling
program.
It's
also
through
development
projects
as
well.
Okay,.
G
G
If
I'm
unclear
about
where
those
revenues
are
going
because
we're
saying
they're
going
back
into
traffic,
calming
measures
to
slow
down
speeds-
and
I
think
that
my
perspective
from
my
perspective,
these
identified
locations
should
be
kind
of
pulled
into
those
efforts.
And
so
I
wonder
if
that
could
be
just
a
direction
to
staff,
as
they
come
back
for
this
year's
budget
to
to
highlight
where
the
revenues
are
going
in
the
coming
year.
M
So
cycling
is
one
important
component
as
well
as
other
vulnerable
road
users.
We
also
have
intersections
the
rural
area
where
we
see
many
fatalities
occur
with
the
high
speeds,
as
well
as
high
risk
drivers.
Those
were
our
emphasis
areas,
and
so
the
money
that's
going
to
be
used
will
be
used
for
those
different
areas.
It'll
be
all
based
on
the
data
that
that
we
do
collect
in
terms
of
collisions
and
also
the
the
measures
that
we
can
open.
M
That
will
be
found
to
be
very
effective
in
in
getting
those
numbers
down,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
not
acceptable
that
one
person
is
dying
on
a
road,
so
our
goal
is
to
get
to
zero,
both
from
fatalities
and
also
serious
injuries.
So
cycling
is
part
of
that.
In
the
2020
plan
there
was
about
half
a
million
dollars
that
was
allocated
to
to
cycling
out
of
that
plan.
M
It
included
the
example
of
smith
road
with
the
the
intersection
work
that
we're
there
to
do
to
improve
things
as
well
as
we've
got
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
believe
for
just
low-cost
improvements.
There's
ten
intersections
that
that
we'll
look
at
in
terms
of
you
know,
using
paint
or-
or
you
know,
as
previously
mentioned
about
turn
restrictions,
and
things
like
that-
that
we
can
do
to
enhance
safety
of
cyclists.
G
K
M
N
I
can
respond
to
that.
Yes,
it
can
projects
can
be
added
to
the
dc
background
study,
provided
it
shows
that
there's
growth,
the
growth
component
to
it-
and
you
know
it
could
be-
we
could
get
some
dc
funding,
there's
a
small
amount
of
growth
associated
with
the
project
or
it
could
be
significant
if
it
provides
that
you
know
it's
a
solution
for
intensification
and
it's
in
a
built-up
area.
So
we
could
make
that
argument.
Yes,
and
I
expect
to
do
that
in
the
next
review.
K
N
K
And,
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
the
difference
between
the
the
the
greenfield
developments
and
and
our
mature
neighborhoods,
the
the
corner
of
baby
station
road
and
scott
street
is
going
to
become
very
crowded
with
towers,
and
the
only
way
that's
going
to
be
sustainable
is,
if
we're
better,
balancing
the
the
modal
share
among
people
who
are
traveling
through
there.
So
that's
that's
important
to
me.
The
second
question
is
just
with
respect
to
some
of
those
smaller
fixes
and
phil.
You
just
spoke
to
those.
K
B
Yes,
no,
that's
correct!
Phil!
Thank
you.
Yes,
if
you
do
have
any
suggestions,
please
send
them
to
me
we're
we're
also
going
to
the
report
as
well
and
seeing
what
can
be
implemented
immediately
through
our
cycling
safety
improvement
program.
So
we've
actually
already
done
three
locations
this
year
in
2020.
That
are
part
of
this
study.
So
three
for
three
locations,
we've
implemented
sign
and
pavement
marking
changes
already,
and
we
are
planning
for
next
year's
location.
So
that's
definitely
a
good
time
to
discuss.
B
K
E
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
the
the
report.
It
is
a
thorough
report
and
it
so
it's
very
good
that
this
this
work
was
done.
There's
a
lot
of
quality
ideas.
The
designs
that
are
within
the
report
are
excellent.
You
know
we
just
need
to
see
some
of
these
move
to
to
fruition,
and
so
I
just
had
a
few
questions
with
regard
to
that.
In
terms
of
the
the
intersections
that
were
identified,
we
identified
74,
we
reviewed
29.,
some
of
them.
E
We
didn't
work
on
because
there's
overlapping
jurisdiction
with
the
the
ncc.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
work
with
them
to
to
help
identify
changes
to
those
intersections
that
may
be
coming
up
in
future
construction
cycles?
And
I
say
that
just
just
saying
that
we,
you
know:
we've
had
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
ncc
we've
implemented
new
crossings
for
people,
new
designs
with
the
ncc
working
in
collaboration
they're
very
open
to
to
this
discussion.
E
M
Well,
like
you
say,
I
think
we
have
a
very
good
relationship
with
them
when
we
come
up
with
locations
that
are
being
rebuilt,
that
are
partly
owned
by
the
ncc
in
the
city.
We
engage
with
them
early
in
in
the
in
the
design
process
and
and
like
I
know,
for
the
most
part,
they're
very
receptive.
You
know.
The
the
bank
street
riverside
you
know
is
an
example
that
I
was
involved
with
and
they
were
very
helpful
in
terms
of
moving
through
the
process
and
also
in
providing
design
options.
E
That's
great,
I'm
happy
to
hear
the
chair
and
vice
chair
going
to
collaborate
on
that.
That's
that's
excellent
news
in
terms
of
the
designs
that
we
do
have
here.
Is
there
a
plan
to
move
to
more
of
a
detailed
design
for
the
2029
that
we
did
review?
Is
that
possible?
I
mean
how
do
we
see
this
put
into
action?
How
do
we
see
this
enacted?
What
what
is
the
plan
to
see
that
happen.
M
So
the
the
plan
moving
forward
for
those
29
locations
is
is
when
there's
opportunities
moving
forward
either
because
there's
reconstruction
occurring
or
there's
development
in
the
area
to
start
looking
at
those
designs.
So
it's
it's
not
that
we're
proactively
going
to
go
and
and
do
standalone
designs
unless
we
get
directed
to
do
so
by
by
council.
This
was
more
of
an
information
report
of
these
are
locations
they're
on
our
radar
now
and
we're
going
to
seek
opportunities
as
we
move
forward
to
include
them
when,
when
those
opportunities
occur,.
E
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
just
last
last
piece
for
me.
The
the
bank
and
river
side
intersection
both
the
the
north
and
south
portions,
though
there
has
been
redesigns.
Obviously
we
we
saw
a
tragic
death
there
a
few
years
ago,
but-
and
there
were
some
there
were
some
changes
made
some
minor
changes
made,
but
we're
still
seeing
a
lot
of
collisions
there
right
at
bank
and
riverside,
and
so
that
wasn't
one
that
was
included
on
the
northern
portion.
We're
now
seeing
bank
street
south
from
that
intersection.
E
South
past
walk
league
going
to
be
redesigned
they'll,
be
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
in
terms
of
the
traffic
calming
that's
going
to
come
there,
the
opportunity
for
small
businesses,
the
bike
lanes
that
are
going
to
be
coming
in
the
wider
pedestrian
walkways.
All
that
is
fantastic,
but
that
intersection
is
not
included
in
in
that
piece.
It's
just
outside
of
it.
We're
also
seeing
two
very
large
towers
proposed
to
be
built,
26
stories
and
another
30
story
right
at
that
intersection.
E
So
that
bank
and
riverside
piece
there's
been
a
hundred
collisions
there
in
the
last
five
years.
The
collisions
continue
there,
and
so
it's
a
dangerous
one.
It
continues
to
be
a
dangerous
one,
so
that
that
is
one
that
I
I'd
like
to
see
added
in
terms
of
the
development
we're
going
to
be
seeing
come.
How
do
I
do
that?
M
I
N
That
may
be
complicated,
more
complicated
because
it
is
a
narrow
structure
and
if
we
do
put
in
a
cycling
facility
there,
you
know
there
it
might
be
very
expensive
because
it
would
talk.
Make
may
involve
a
rebuilding
of
the
that
metal
structure
or
you
know
we
could
review
what
would
be
the
implications,
and
is
it
feasible
to
turn
that
into
three
lanes
instead
of
four?
Now
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
that
bridge
already,
so
this
may
not
be
viable,
but
staff
are
looking
into
this.
N
E
Okay,
that's
great
to
hear,
and
I've
been
talking
with
the
developers
that
are
looking
at
putting
up
those
buildings.
I
know
they
seem
open
to
some
infrastructure
changes
there
because
there's
again
that's
a
really
dangerous
intersection
as
it
is,
and
you
know
a
cantilever
system
may
may
work
well
there.
You
keep
that
those
four
lanes,
but
you've
got
that
cantilever
to
for
protection.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
talking
with
you
about
it
and
thank
you
staff
for
the
report
and
chair
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you.
N
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
believe
I've
been
through
almost
all
of
those
intersections
on
my
bike,
so
it's
I
feel
like
a
daredevil.
Now
when
I
hear
this
report,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
just
a
quick
question
about
moody
and
corpse
town,
because
it
is
stage
two,
but
I
just
want
some
assurance
that
we're
going
to
do
it
be
before
stage
two
because
of
all
the
construction.
N
We
need
the
safety
during
that
period
of
time
during
the
construction.
So
I'm
just
going
to
ask
that
it
be
it
earlier
rather
than
later,
because
it's
going
to
be
very
soon
that
it's
starting
up,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
safety
there
we're
already
seeing
compromises
in
terms
of
cycling
routes
with
stage
2
construction
in
other
areas
and
that's
something
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
that,
while
the
construction
is
being
done,
we
need
safety.
M
N
G
M
Well,
that's
the
the
intent
is
is
for
that,
but
again
you
have
we've
just
started
the
red
light.
Sorry,
the
automated
speed
enforcement
program.
We
are
bringing
forward
a
report
probably
next
summer,
because
the
automated
speed
enforcement
is
a
pilot
and
because
there
are,
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
in
terms
of
from
a
road
safety
perspective
over.
You
know
we'll
have
over
a
six
to
nine
month
period.
In
terms
are
we
seeing
lower
speeds?
Are
we
you
know
the
amount
of
revenue
that's
being
generated?
M
Also
the
internal
costs,
in
terms
of
you
know
our
partners
in
in
service
ottawa,
with
the
courts
and
and
even
with
revenue.
So
we
want
to
get
a
big
picture
of
of
what
the
implications
are.
So
we
can
bring
a
wholesome
report
to
committee
and
council
on
the
program
and
our
recommendations
in
terms
of
moving
forward
from
the
from
the
pilot
program.
G
Okay
and
then
how
do
you
weigh
road
safety
and
this
particular
report,
like
I'm
confused
as
to
you,
talked
about
collision
before,
but
in
many
ways
you
know
that
it'd
be
the
intersection,
always
stop
sign
that
we
approved,
but
that
was
on
today's
agenda
and
then
this
cycling
safety
review.
How
do
you
weigh
all
those
factors
into
to
your
analysis?.
M
So
we
use
the
data
from
the
collisions
from
you
know
over
a
five-year
period
in
terms
of
the
trends,
but
we
also
look
to
see
if
there's
hot
spots
that
occur,
that
we
may
need
to
to
address.
So
that's
all
that'll
all
be
brought
forward
to
our
road
safety
action
plan
and
and
it'll
it'll
sort
of
give
provide
information
in
terms
of
why
we've
decided
the
different
investments
like
we
did
in
our
report
earlier
this
year.
All
right.
Thank
you.
G
A
G
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
pierre
I'll,
ask
kelly
just
to
share
an
image
with
you
on
the
screen
and
I'd
like
to
refer
everyone
to
a
particular
section
of
the
response
from
staff.
So
this
is
thuff
written
here
I'll,
read
it
the
purpose
of
the
snow
blower.
So
this
is
a
section
that
I'm
stealing,
if
you
will
from
staff's
inquiry
response.
The
purpose
of
the
snow
blower
equipment
is
to
remove
the
snow
banks
and
it
is
not
intended
to
clear
the
road
to
bare
pavement
operationally.
G
A
combo
of
truck
disney
truck
is
not
deployed
to
plow
the
roadways
after
removal
is
done
to
avoid
pushing
the
snow
bank
onto
the
area
where
the
snow
just
removed.
However,
recognizing
that
the
snow
blower
will
leave
residue
on
the
roadway
after
the
removal
is
done,
and
salt
truck
is
deployed
to
distribute
salt
to
melt
as
much
as
the
remaining
residue
as
possible.
G
So
what
I
want
to
share
with
you
is,
I
struggle
as
a
counselor
and
as
a
member
of
this
committee
over
the
last
number
of
years,
what's
become
apparent.
Is
we
do
a
great
job
of
clearing
and
we
can
debate
on
priorities
and
you
know
which
roads
which
sidewalks
and
so
on,
and
we
as
a
committee,
we've
done
a
great
job
of
doing
a
fulsome
review?
What's
called
the
mqs
and
I
believe
that
will
be
coming
at
some
point
in
2021.
G
I
guess
my
my
struggle
is
I've
identified
a
a
window
of
issues
as
it
not
relates
to
the
clearing,
because
we
do
a
great
job
clearing.
As
you
know,
sidewalks
streets
are
cleared
and
then
it
the
snow,
adds
on
to
that
little
boulevard
portion
on
the
edge
of
the
street
and
when
the
street
becomes
too
narrow,
we
go
and
remove
the
snow.
G
G
Following
the
removal
of
the
snow,
you
can
see
the
sidewalk
plows
following
the
equipment
to
to
push
them
the
minimum
residue.
That's
left
on
the
sidewalk
or
the
roadway
back
to
that
boulevard
portion
of
the
road
so
yeah.
You
know
mr
chair
and
clerk,
I'm
looking
for
your
advice
how
to
so.
It
is
a
practice
that
the
city
is
not
conducting.
I
I
met
with
staff
they're,
obviously
comfortable
by
their
their
approach.
I'd
like
that
to
be
reviewed,
and
I
don't
know
as
a
as
a
as
a
committee
member,
how
to
advance
that.
A
G
A
I
Thank
you
chair
in
speaking
about
the
snow
removal
process.
We
do
have
a
very
defined
and
a
very
complex
snow
removal
process,
so
we
do
start
off.
We
we
bring
the
graders
in
and
as
councillor
fleury
has
suggested
once
the
sidewalks
and
roadways
start
to
become
narrowed
because
of
the
snowbreaks
we
bring
in
the
the
graters,
which
will
pull
the
snow
onto
the
roadway
behind
the
graters
comes
our
snow
blowers
and
what
that
does.
I
Is
it
actually
chews
up
and
removes
the
snow
into
the
truck,
so
the
trucks
move
on
going
forward?
It's
actually
similar
to
the
picture
that
councillor
fleury
had
shown.
We
do
have
a
sidewalk
machine
that
does
follow
on
the
sidewalk
area
to
make
sure
that
any
of
that
residue
is
pushed
back
out
towards
the
roadway.
I
think
what
counselor
flurry's
concern
is
once
the
snowblower
goes
through
the
area.
There
is
a
tiny
bit
of
residue
that
is
left
on
on
the
the
asphalt
and
that's
that's
typical
to
people
using
snowblowers
at
home.
I
The
counselors
is
suggesting
that
we
bring
back
another
combo
truck
after
the
process
to
actually
clear
up
that
area
and
just
for
for
councils
or
committees,
understanding
when
we
go
through
snow
removal
operations,
it
is
about
a
two
to
three
week
time
period
to
complete
it.
So,
in
order
for
us
to
come
back
around
and
attempt
to
to
clear
what
is
remaining,
we
are
a
considerable
period
of
time
out,
so
the
salt
which
we
are
able
to
do-
and
we
are
very
cautious
of
of
the
salt
that
we
use.
I
We
have
a
great
salt
management
practice
in
place,
but
that
is
what
helps
us
ensure
that
the
roads
stay
safe
as
we
continue
with
the
snow
removal
process.
I
know
if
there
are-
and
I
would
have
told
the
counselor
we
aren't
perfect.
We
know
that
there
are
ways
to
improve.
We
have
gone
through
the
service
delivery
review
for
the
2019-2020
winter
season.
I
I
think
committee
council
is
well
aware
that
there
were
a
number
of
improvements
that
we've
seen
and
we
are
always
looking
to
continuously
improve.
So
if
we
do
have
specific
situations
where
there's
some
concern
because
there's
additional
ice
buildup
because
of
that
practice,
we
are
more
than
willing
to
go
review
that
situation
and
rectify
it.
At
that
time,.
G
Yeah,
mr
chair,
I
this
is
I'm
asking
for
clarity
from
the
clerks,
so
I
I
don't
have
an
item
to
debate.
I
guess
is
the
issue
I
there
there
is
a
an
inquiry
that
I
submitted.
There
is
a
response
and
I'm
asking
for:
could
we
consider
the
practice
or
the
current
procedure
to
be
reviewed
as
part
of
mqs
which
would
allow
residents
and
businesses
to
engage?
I
C
C
J
C
J
C
J
G
I
I
guess
I
haven't
heard
from
the
clerk
mr
chair,
I'm
just
wondering
as
a
committee
member
who's
raised
an
inquiry,
there's
a
staff
response,
I'm
proposing
mqs,
but
I'm
open.
If,
if
there
is
a
in
a
pro
a
procedural
approach,
a
practical
approach
that
is
used
as
a
member
of
committee,
what
how
do
I
refer
for
a
review?
I
guess,
is.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
and
I'm
glad
kevin
stepped
in,
because
I
was
just
going
to
ask
a
couple
of
years
ago.
We
have
the
auditor
generous
report
and
with
quite
a
bit
of
change
and
staff,
agreed
to
those
changes,
and
I
thought
you
know
that
the
staff
comply
with
most
of
those
recommendations
from
the
auditor
generous
report,
and
now
we
have
a
report
also
is
coming
to
us
and
then
we're
adding
on
in
the
middle
of
that
process.
F
So,
mr
chair,
whether
my
colleague
put
a
motion
or
direction,
I
will
not
support
neither
one
direction
or
motion
at
this
time.
I
think
we
need
to
wait
to
see
what
the
consultant
coming
up
with
one
of
the
the
questions
we
asked
in
the
past
in
those
area
when
we
have
a
heavy
snowstorm-
and
I
know
staff
do
a
great
job
plowing
the
snow.
Would
that
be
possibility,
and
I
think
we
I
asked
that
a
few
years
ago,
like
montreal,
does
bring
the
trucks
and.
F
Pick
up
the
snow
at
once,
instead
of
plowing
it
first
and
then
collected
after.
Is
that
a
possibility
in
certain
I'm
not
saying
you
can
do
that
in
west
carta,
which
is
larger
than
the
city
of
calgary,
I'm
suggesting
in
a
few
streets,
in
sandy
hills
or
in
area
where
we
know
there's,
no
storage
capacity
would
have
been
possible
and
we
asked
that
it
would
be
impossible
to
have
decorator
and
and
to
to
pick
up
the
snow.
F
I
F
I
I
For
the
most
part,
you
will
see
just
a
a
light
level
of
snow.
That's
left
and
that's
where
again,
the
salt
and
the
road
traffic
will
help
melt
that
and
push
it
away,
but
when
it
comes
to
drainage,
absolutely,
if
there's
concerns,
because
we
see
additional
ice
or
snow.
Yes,
we
fully
ask
you
to
reach
out
to
us
and
we
will
take
a
look
at
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
K
I
am
just
wondering,
and
I'm
sorry
to
get
into
the
the
nitty-gritty
on
this.
There
are
after
snow
removal,
there
is
snow,
that's
left
on
the
road
and
residents
go
out
and
they
push
the
snow
back
into
piles
on
the
street,
which
is
where
they're
piling
the
snow,
and
my
entire
ward
is.
Is
that
way?
Is
that
costing
us
more
as
opposed
to
like?
Does
it
mean
we
have
to
remove
more
often.
K
No,
the
the
residences
because
there
is
still
snow
at
the
end
of
their
driveway
past,
the
sidewalk
they're
they're
plowing,
it
they're
shoveling
it
back
to
bare
pavement,
which
it
was
before
the
snow
removal,
operation
and
they're
piling
the
street
the
snow
in
in
the
street
next
to
the
sidewalk,
which
is
where,
even
though
we're
not
supposed
to
we're
putting
the
snow
anyways.
I
just
wonder
if
that's
accelerating
the
time
frame
when
we
have
to
remove
again-
which
I
know
is
a
very
expensive
operation.
I
It's
quite
possible:
it
really
depends
on
the
amount
of
snow
that
we're
receiving
in
the
winter
it
does
it
obviously
hastens
the
time
that
the
the
roadway
shrinks
in
size.
We
do
ask
residents
to
to
put
the
snow
up
onto
the
right
of
way
up
onto
the
lawns
or
property
so
that
it
does
keep
the
roads
as
wide
as
possible.
I
The
one
thing
that
you
may
have
seen
last
year
is
one
of
our
major
changes
was
to
ensure
that
we
had
around
the
clock
coverage
during
and
after
storms.
So
we
were
doing
more
winging
back
of
of
snow
banks
casting
of
snow
to
try
and
widen
those
areas
to
not
get
to
the
point
where
we
have
to
do
removal,
particularly
in
areas
that
have
space
to
store
the
snow.
So,
depending
on
what
kind
of
I
know
in
your
ward,
for
example,
you've
got
some
very
narrow
areas.
I
K
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
Just
following
up
on
that
last
exchange
with
councillor
leeper,
he
mentioned
where
sometimes
after
the
plowing
there
are,
I
call
them
snow,
boulders
or
ice
bricks
left
behind,
but
a
lot
of
I've
seen
in
the
past,
where
crews
come
in
with
the
backhoes
and
just
pick
all
that
up
like
maybe
it's
you
know
12
hours
later
or
whatever,
but
it's
always
done
right
away
afterwards.
C
So
I
don't
think
we
really
need
a
new
process
for
that,
and-
and
I
want
to
bring
attention
to
the
fact
that
in
new
neighborhoods
that
we're
seeing
out
in
the
in
the
suburbs,
there's
not
a
lot
of
snow
storage
in
there
and
so
you're
running
into
problems
where
you
have
to
do
snow
clearing
up
there.
So
I'm
not
interested
in
a
policy
that
says
in
one
neighborhood
we're
going
to
do
additional
snow
clearing,
but
we're
not
going
to
do
it
elsewhere.
C
I
Yes,
chair.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
number
of
processes
in
place
that
we
do
clean
up
after
some
of
the
snow
removal
process
because,
like
you
said
there
are
times
where
some
boulders
are
left
drains
may
be
covered,
so
we
are
going
back
and
and
doing
those
agreed.
We've
got
some
processes
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
some
best
practices
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at.
We
will
be
coming
back
to
committee
and
council
in
late.
I
I
think
q3
2021
prior
to
the
2022
draft
budget
process,
to
provide
you
with
the
results
of
the
maintenance,
quality
standard
review,
the
winter
maintenance
quality
standard
review
and
provide
some
options
moving
forward,
and
that's
where
you're
going
to
see
us
looking
at.
You
know
whether
it's
specialty
spaces,
whether
it
is
some
of
those
new
communities,
types
of
equipment
and
practices
that
will
be
best
for
the
city
going
forward.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
I
I
don't
see
any
other
speakers
on
this
item
I'll
just
throw
in
a
couple
of
the
points
of
thanks
to
the
wonderful
staff.
I've
visited
the
shops,
I've
I've
seen
a
lot
of
the
new
equipment.
You
always
are
willing
to
take
us
and
show
us
how
these
things
work
as
counselors,
and
even
let
us
drive
some
of
these
plow
trucks.
Sometimes
it's
kind
of
cool
the
laura
can
really
dial
around
in
that
plow
truck.
A
I
saw
that
yeah
that
that
being
said
also
the
new
technologies.
We
all
remember
a
few
years
ago
that
that
snowstorm
from
hell
and
how
we
had
to
try
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
You
guys
have
really
upped
your
game
so
to
kevin,
and
you
lila
all
the
members,
hard-working
men
and
women
within
our
shops.
I
want
to
thank
you
and,
let's,
let's
hope,
2020
doesn't
give
us
snow.
It's
given
us
everything
else,
but
we
don't
want
any
more
snow
so
sodium.
We
need
snow.
Yeah.
A
Okay,
george
wants
it,
but
you
know
just
george
so
a
lot
to
say
I
I
believe,
there's
no
more
discussion
on
this
item,
so
we
do
have
some
other
housekeeping
matters
that
are
here.
I'm
just
going
to
move
down
within
the
agenda
and
kelly
keep
me
in
line.
We.
We
have
a
notice
of
motion
counselor
vice
chair
lieber.
If
you
wanted
to
go
ahead
with
that.