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From YouTube: Transportation Committee – September 2, 2020
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Transportation Committee – September 2, 2020 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
B
C
A
Wonderful
thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
hard
work
kelly
so
good
morning.
Everyone
and
welcome
to
today's
meeting
of
the
transportation
committee
before
I
proceed.
I'd
like
to
do
a
quick
roll
call
of
the
nine
members
and
I'll
remind
everyone.
We
need
a
minimum
of
five
members
of
present
to
actually
have
quorum
so
on
this
councilor
lula,
we'll
wait
for
him,
counselor
dudas,.
D
A
Council
menard
president
councillor
deruse
here,
councillor
hubley
yeah
and
a
vice
chair
leaper
here,
and
I
see
that
it
looks
like
eli's
trying
to
call
me
so
I'm
assuming
he's
trying
to
get
on
to
the
call
right
now,
so
it
should
be
on
momentarily,
as
noted
in
the
agenda
that
was
distributed,
we'll
be
participating
in
this
meeting
electronically
via
zoom
the
instructions
for
the
members.
A
The
public
wishing
to
submit
their
comments
to
participate.
As
a
delegation
in
this
meeting
were
included
in
the
agenda.
Those
who
did
not
participate
in
the
meeting
can
also
watch
the
stream
live
on
the
city's
youtube
channel
for
those
that
are
participating
in
the
meeting.
A
If
you
want
to
speak,
I
think
we
all
know
this
by
now.
You
use
the
raised
hand
feature
on
the
zoom
function.
Community
coordinator
will
also
be
watching
for
those
cues
and
the
usual
five
minutes.
Talk
times
will
be
applied,
so
we
do
not
have
any
regrets
at
this
time.
No
declarations
of
interest
confirmation
of
the
minutes
june
3rd
2020.
A
Is
that
are
those
received
received
received
thanks,
jeff
communications?
We
actually
have
standards
for
sidewalk
styles
and
I'll.
Ask
the
the
coordinator
counselor,
for
he
wishes
to
move
this
move
of
motion
to
put
this
actually
on
to
the
agenda.
Would
this
be
the
appropriate
time
for
him
to
read
that
motion.
A
Great
counselor
did
you
want
to
read
that
motion.
E
E
So
be
it
resolve
that,
pursuant
to
section
89
3
of
the
procedural
by-law
transportation
committee
approved
the
response
to
inquiry.
E
A
Okay,
that
is
wonderful
on
that
on
that
motion.
Is
that
carried
very
good?
Wonderful,
thank
you
and
then,
of
course,
we
also
have
a
response
on
infrastructure
planning
and
design
process.
Is
that
item
received
steve?
Thank
you
so
we'll
just
go
quickly
through
the
agenda,
the
first
one
we
do
have
president.
Do
we
have
a
presentation
on
this
video,
I'm
just
having
a
look
here.
A
Yeah
good
so
we'll
hold
that
item
and
that's
the
seo.
Transit
study
for
gatineau's
west
end
immigration
with
ottawa
office
of
the
clerk
status,
update
and
transportation
committee
inquires
and
motions
for
the
period
ending
the
21st
august
21st
2020.
A
Is
that
is
that
received
great?
Thank
you
item
number
three
westboro
mclaren
park,
civic
hospital
residential
area,
speed
reduction.
We
all
like
to
see
those
and
that's
in
kitchissippi
ward.
I
have
no
presentations,
no
delegations
and
no
correspondence.
So
is
this
item
carried?
I.
A
Okay,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
is
it?
Is
it
very
quick
council,
video.
A
Okay,
please
go
ahead
and
ask.
B
I
was
wondering
why
staff
weren't
recommending
that
the
speed
limits
start
at
yonge
street,
and
I
only
asked
that
because,
as
you're
heading
under
the
bridge
you're
hitting
residential
homes
and
there's
a
natural
impact
for
motorists
to
start
to
slow,
so
I
was
curious
as
to
the
rationalist
why
it's
not
started
a
little
bit
early.
G
H
We're
we're
responding
to
the
to
the
resident
requests
and
that
makes
sense.
A
So
again,
I'll
go
back
to
the
item
unless
someone
wants
it
held.
Is
this
item
carried
period?
Thank
you.
Item
item
number
four
old
ottawa,
south
old
ottawa,
east
residential
area,
speed
reductions.
This
is
in
council
menards
area.
We
have
no
presentations,
delegations
or
correspondence.
A
Does
anyone
need
the
fuel
to
hold
this
item?
If
not,
is
this
item
carried?
Okay?
Great
item
number:
five:
the
installation
of
safety
enhancements
on
bank
street
canal
bridge.
There
is
no
presentations,
but
there
is
three
delegations
I
believe
is
that
correct
kelly.
A
Wonderful,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
and
come
back
to
it
and
and
then
I
think
that's
about
it
for
for
agenda
clearing
unless
I'm
missing
something
here,
nope
we're
good
to
go.
So
I
guess
we
go
back
to
the
first
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
sto
transit
study
for
gatineau's
west
end
integration
with
ottawa,
and
just
if
you're,
following
along
since
we've
held,
we've
removed
the
inquiry
or
the
response
back
that
councilor
fleury
wanted
kelly.
Is
it
appropriate
that
we
put
that
at
the
end
of
the
agenda?
A
F
Okay,
so
kelly
will
probably
will
be
putting
up
the
slide
dock.
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
and
committee
members.
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
to
update
you
on
the
sto
tramway
study
and
its
implications
for
ottawa
with
us.
Are
the
team
leaders
from
sto
and
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
madame
miriam
nadeau,
the
chair
of
sto
board
of
directors,
is
here?
F
Mr
mark
rousseau,
he's
the
seo
director
general,
as
well
as
mr
patrick
leclerc,
director
of
planning
development
and
communications,
so
they
are
here
to
help
answer
any
questions
that
is
very
specific
to
to
sto
staff
city
staff
are
also
supporting
me
here
with
greg
kent
and
pat
so
for
other
issues
related
to
ottawa
and
the
implications
of
this
project
on
ottawa.
We're
here
to
to
answer
those
next
slide.
F
Please
so
the
this
project
is
brings
a
lot
of
benefits
not
only
for
residents
of
gatineau
west
end,
but
it
improves
the
transit
service
for
ottawa
residents
as
well
the
project
because
it's
crossing
the
the
river
it
is
sustainably
addressing
the
current
and
future
community
demands
through
2031..
F
The
project
aims
to
reduce
bus
volumes
in
the
downtown
anywhere
between
30
to
70
percent,
depending
on
the
solution
that
is
selected
at
the
end
of
the
day
as
well.
Vehicular
demand
will
be
decreasing
by
15
to
20
percent
during
peak
periods.
I
mean
that
happens
whenever
you
introduce
a
new
transit
project.
F
It
supports
the
principles
of
our
city's
climate
change
master
plan
as
as
any
electrified
transit
project
would
do,
and
there
is
also
a
potential
for
this
project
to
kick
start
other
projects
that
the
city
has
and
I'll
get
into
that
later.
Thank
you
next
slide,
please.
F
So
this
is
really
a
follow-up
to
the
briefing
that
sto
provided
to
council
in
may
of
2020..
At
that
briefing,
it
was
noted
that
the
tram
and
bus
technology
was
recommended,
and
this
was
done
through
previous
studies.
Two
corridors
in
gatineau
are
needed
to
serve
the
their
transit
needs
and
out
of
those
two
corridors.
There
are
three
variations.
Three
options,
then
that's
really
based
on
the
technology
choice
and
I'll
get
into
that
later.
F
The
crossing
at
portage
bridge
was
determined
to
be
the
best
crossing
and
when
it
the
tramway
reaches
ottawa,
there
is
only
one
corridor,
that's
needed,
but
we
have
two
options
that
are
being
considered
since
the
technical
briefing.
There
was
a
a
month-long
online
public
consultation
event
in
june
to
july
19th,
and
I
will
get
into
some
of
the
results
of
that
survey
as
part
of
this
presentation,
and
the
project
is
still
continuing.
It's
not
done
so.
F
We
still
have
a
number
of
technical
analyses
to
work
on
with
the
sto
and
other
stakeholders
on
this
project
next
slide.
Please
so
you've
seen
this
before.
These
are
the
three
shortlisted
corridors
they
were
presented
at
the
may
technical
briefing,
so
the
blue
line
represents
the
tram
technology,
so
in
option
one,
it's
all
tram
along
there
and
then
connecting
over
to
ottawa
the
option.
Two
is
the
hybrid
options.
Two
and
three
are
both
hybrids
and
it
just
depends
on
which
corridor
is
selected
for
the
tram.
F
So
the
crossing
to
ottawa
portage
is
selected
for
this
particular
project
because
which
is
aiming
to
connect
commuters
from
elmer
to
the
downtown.
F
It
is
has
the
least
number
of
transfers
for
passengers
so
that
that
is
a
good
thing
for
customer
convenience
and
there
are
choices
of
transfers
to
line
one
at
two
stations,
lion
and
parliament.
It
doesn't
for
ottawa
riders.
We
don't
for
ottawa
commuters,
who
want
to
get
to
gatineau
downtown
transit
riders,
don't
need
to
backtrack,
because
portage
is
right
there.
It
brings
them
right
to
their
destination.
F
There's
also,
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
was
considered,
and
it's
not
a
considered
appropriate
for
this
particular
project,
but
it
continues
to
be
protected
for
future
transit
crossings
for
a
future
project.
As
you
can
see
on
the
map
there
it's
too
far
to
the
west,
and
it
would
cause
a
number
of
an
additional
transfer
for
passengers
heading
to
either
downtowns
and
backtracking
for
some
for
both
next
slide.
Please.
F
So
the
these
are
the
two
main
corridor
options
in
ottawa,
although
wellington
will
have
two
subsets
of
that,
and
I
can
mention
that
in
the
next
slide,
the
as
the
tram
comes
through.
It's
electric,
of
course,
and
it'll
be
double
tracked
through
this
area
to
protect
the
visual
aesthetics
of
the
confederation
boulevard,
there
will
be,
they
will
operate.
The
tram
will
be
on
battery
operated
battery
power
through
here.
F
So
there
won't
be
any
overhead
wires
along
portage
bridge,
as
well
as
any
surface
segment
in
ottawa,
which
means
that
there
will
have
to
be
a
recharging
station
at
the
end
of
the
line.
So
for
wellington
street
the
surface
option
on
the
diagram
on
the
left,
there
will
be
three
stations
with
one
ending
around
elgin.
F
The
the
stations
will
have
surface
access,
so
it
will
be
a
lot
easier
for
passengers,
customers
to
access
the
stations
wellington
itself,
though
it
has
a
very
narrow.
It's
a
very
narrow
corridor,
especially
east
of
lyon,
and
there
are
lots
of
competing
needs
for
this
corridor
for
car
traffic,
for
pedestrians,
for
cyclists,
and
also
the
protecting
the
the
view
and
image
of
the
whole
parliament
precinct
with
the
wide
las
planet
as
well.
F
So
the
impacts
of
this
project
would
actually
be
on
the
north
side
of
the
of
the
tramway,
and
I
can
get
into
some
of
that.
The
details
in
the
next
slide
so
I'll
skip
to
the
traffic
implications.
F
So
with
squeezing
in
the
tramway
it'll
mean
that
anything
east
of
lion
we
will
have
to
restrict
turning
movements
or
that
there
will
be
no
turning
lanes
provided
and
they,
so
there
are
going
to
be
traffic
implications
from
this
project
onto
other
downtown
streets
and
that
work
is
still
being
assessed.
F
At
this
point,
there
is
potential
service
disruption
if
the
tramway
were
to
run
on
wellington
because
of
things
like
demonstrations
or
other
special
events
that
tend
to
block
close
off
wellington
and
again,
there
could
be
a
visual
impact
on
the
corridor,
especially
at
the
elgin
station,
where
our
national
memorial
monument
is
there
for
the
spark
street
option.
It's
about
1.2
kilometers
tunnel
below
spark
street.
F
F
There
will
be
more
direct
connection
to
line
one
in
comparison
to
wellington,
because
it's
one
block
closer
and
it's
underground,
and
there
could
be
this
project-
would
include
the
underground
connection
to
our
confederation
line
stations
as
well.
Of
course,
anything
that
is
constructed
underground
would
be
more
complicated
and
complex
construction
because
of
the
utilities
that
are
down
there
and
as
a
result,
the
project
will
be
much
more
expensive
than
the
surface
option,
but
there's
also
the
opportunity,
particularly
for
spark
street
renewal
with
reanimation
of
spark
street.
F
If
this
project
comes
in,
there
will
be
construction
down
below,
of
course,
and
then
construction
on
the
surface
for
the
station
accesses
which
could
be
incorporated
into
buildings,
and
it
provides
an
opportunity
to
coordinate
the
implementation
of
the
spark
street
public
realm
plan
next
slide,
please.
F
This
is
just
a
sample
layout,
a
graphic
of
what
it
would
look
like
on
wellington,
with
traffic
or
without
traffic.
So
that
would
be
without
traffic
east
of
bank
streets,
there
still
be
traffic
west
of
bank
street,
the
with
traffic.
The
upper
diagram
shows
the
vehicle
lanes
being
on
the
south
side,
the
tramway
being
on
the
north
and
with
cycling
facilities
there
before
you
get
to
the
sidewalk
on
the
north
side.
F
So,
with
this
option,
and
as
well
as
the
one
below
I
had
said
earlier,
that
there
will
be
restrictions
on
turning
movements
and
on
the
north
side,
where
the
parliament
hill
buildings
and
the
judicial
precinct
is,
there
are
currently
eight
access
points
and
those
need
to
be
reconsidered
in
terms
of
consolidation,
because,
as
you
can
see
from
here,
anyone
wanting
to
make
that
turn
onto
the
precincts
would
have
to
cross
the
tramway.
F
So
as
we
consolidate
the
numbers
of
accesses,
it
would
improve
the
safety
and
the
efficiency
of
the
tramway
operations.
This
issue
is
a
very
important
one,
it's
being
reviewed
by
the
the
feds,
so
we
don't
have
an
answer
to
that
just
yet.
If
this
is
a
no
go,
it
will
then
impact
the
feasibility
of
of
this
option
for
the
option
sub-option
without
traffic.
F
Of
course,
there'd
be
more
space
separation
of
the
from
the
federal
buildings
on
the
south
side,
there's
more
room
to
work
with
it
can
be
tight
in
this
area
around
27
and
a
half
meters.
F
So
it's
it's
it's
tight
so
by
removing
transit.
Sorry
by
removing
the
vehicular
lanes.
It
gives
a
little
bit
more
space
to
add
to
these
elements,
and
I
want
to
say
that
this
is
just
a
sample
layout.
It's
a
given
point
in
the
plan.
It's
not
depicting
where
the
stations
would
be
so
the
platforms
would
be
much
wider
and
add
to
this.
So
it's
just
giving
you
a
schematic
of
how
the
corridor
would
look
next
option.
Please
sorry!
Next
slide!
F
F
So,
regardless
of
which
option
technology
option
is
selected
on
the
gatineau
side,
whether
it's
all
tram
or
hybrid,
there
will
still
be
buses
operating
on
the
city
of
ottawa
streets,
as
you
can
see
from
the
maps
below
they
would
use
portage
bridge
and
mcdonald
cartier
bridge
and
depending
on
the
selection.
On
the
gatineau
side,
we
can
see
up
to
a
reduction
of
70
percent
of
the
sto
bus
volumes
with
the
all
tram
solution
and
the
hybrid
would
bring
it
to
about
30
to
45
reduction.
F
F
So
the
consultation
took
place
online
over
the
about
four
weeks
and
there
was
a
good
number
of
respondents
570
in
ottawa,
close
to
900
in
gatineau
and
plus
a
few
others
in
surrounding
municipalities.
The
general
responses
are
very
similar
between
ottawa
and
gatineau
results
of
the
survey.
There's
a
strong
majority
that
want
transit
to
serve
both
downtowns.
Eighty
percent
of
the
respondents
went
to
the
facility
to
serve
both
downtowns
and
connect
with
the
o
train
system.
F
By
about
36
percent
of
ottawa
and
42
of
gatineau
respondents,
wellington
without
traffic
was
marginally
higher
than
the
wellington
with
traffic
for
quebec
respondents
they
ranked
equally
and
both
were
also
behind
the
spark
street
option.
Most
ottawa
residents.
Respondents
wanted
fewer
seo
buses
in
the
downtown,
but
they
also
recognize
that
some
sdo
buses
are
needed
to
mitigate
the
number
of
transfers,
so
there's
recognition
that
the
service
for
the
passenger
and
reduction
of
the
transfers
would
be
a
better
situation
next
slide.
Please.
F
So
the
survey
also
provided
a
section
for
written
comments.
So
it's
not
just
selecting
options,
but
here
is
here
are
the
summary
of
some
of
the
comments
that
came
through
in
that
part
of
the
the
consultation
there
was
reiteration
of
strong
support
for
the
tunnel
option
and
connection
to
the
federation
line.
There's
also
a
number
of
comments
about
alternative
river
crossings
such
as
prince
of
wales,
chattier,
alexandra
and
even
options
further
to
the
east
and,
of
course,
with
the
different
river
crossing
options.
F
There
were
some
comments
about
alternative
corridor
options
to
investigate
like
albert
slater,
laurier
and
other
corridors
in
gatineau
and
corridors.
Beyond
the
study
area,
there
were
comments
that
that
should
focus
shouldn't
just
be
on
the
downtown
destinations,
but
other
non-downtown
federal
complexes.
F
Of
course,
the
public
are
also
wanting
to
make
sure
that
any
system
that
is
designed
that
its
capacity
can
be
expanded
into
the
future.
So
that's
longer
term
thinking
there
were
a
number
of
comments
about
the
need
for
this
project
and
the
timing
of
the
project,
the
impact
of
technology,
advances
and
changes
to
the
workplace
because
of
the
pandemic.
F
That
came
up-
and
I
have
in
my
report
to
address
this
issue
that
the
project
did
not,
for
its
needs
did
not
take
into
account
the
pandemic,
because
the
timing
of
the
return
to
downtown
offices,
workers
returning
to
downtown
offices
is
unknown
at
this
time
and
the
downtown
will
always
remain
an
attractive
destination
in
the
long
term.
The
need
for
more
efficient
transit
connections
remain
not
only
for
workers,
but
also
for
students,
tourists
and
other
people
traveling
for
health
and
lease
leisure
reasons.
F
F
That's
still
to
be
determined,
but
this
project
is
not
about
the
the
timing
per
se,
but
more
about
how
which
corridor
is
best
for
the
project
in
gatineau
as
well
as
ottawa,
and
the
pandemic
will
have
an
impact,
but
we
feel
that
it
could
be
limited
to
when
the
system
will
reach
its
capacity
in
the
future
and
perhaps
the
timing
of
the
start
of
the
project,
but
I'll
leave
that
to
sdo
and
their
funding
partners
to
decide
on
that.
F
F
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
this
project
is
ongoing,
this
is
just
an
interim
report
providing
you
with
an
update
so
far.
The
point
that
I
had
made
earlier
about
the
accesses
and
the
whether
it's
viable
to
consolidate
them
for
the
parliamentary
and
judicial
precincts.
F
The
traffic
impact
study
is
ongoing
and
being
reviewed.
Cycling
design,
particularly
in
the
tight
spot
near
bank,
has
to
be
reviewed
because
the
design
right
now
is
some
of
the
elements
are
substandard
there.
Property
requirements,
particularly
well
along
the
whole
stretch,
if
there's
more
land,
that
would
be
better
but
there's
also
land
required
around
lion
and
west
of
lion
because
of
all
the
training
movements
and
everything
that
has
to
fit
in
there.
F
So
the
next
steps
that
we're
going
to
follow
is
some
working
with
sto
and
other
stakeholders,
such
as
the
ncc
pspc
and
other
federal
governments,
federal
departments
to
complete
the
analysis,
the
technical
analysis
analysis
and
look
at
the
plans
and
how
they
can
be
refined.
F
We
need
to
start
talking
about
mitigation
options
and
strategies
to
reduce
the
negative
impact
of
any
one
of
these
options,
confirm
the
cost
and
then
that'll,
allow
us
to
propose
a
recommendations,
and
then
this
project
will
be
seeking
approval
of
transportation
committee
city,
council,
gatineau,
council,
the
sto
award
ncc
board
as
well
later
in
the
year
for
ottawa.
The
the
plan
is
sometime
around
november
that
we
would
be
sorry.
The
plan
is
november.
F
Trc
is
when
we
would
be
bringing
the
the
report
back
to
committee
and
the
link
below
also
links
up
to
the
sto
website
and
the
public
have
the
opportunity
to
to
continue
to
add,
submit
comments
to
this
project.
So
there's
still
a
lot
of
time
here
for
them
for
the
public
to
be
engaged
in
this
project,
and
I
think
the
next
slide.
That's
it.
So
I'm
ready
for
questions.
Thank
you.
A
First
of
all,
thank
you.
It's
kind
of
weird
dealing
with
something
that
is
coming
from
the
other
side
of
the
river
that
could
be
coming
into
our
neighborhood
and
I
know,
there's
plenty
of
questions,
but
we
can
see
progress
on
this
since
we
have
no
delegations,
I'm
just
going
to
go
right
directly
to
questions
from
counselors.
We
have
councillor
fleury,
dudas
and
lulaf
up
so
councillor
fleury.
You
have
five
minutes.
The
floor
is
yours,.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
bunch
of
questions
as
you
can
see
per
my
comments
in
the
report.
I'll
get
back
to
them,
and
I
want
to
thank
vivi
for
responding
to
to
to
those
ahead
of
today's
meeting.
So
I'll
get
back
on
the
list.
E
But
my
initial
question
is
a
question
of
procedure,
so
we
have
a
report
that
was
conducted
by
the
city
of
gatineau
and
sto
that
is
now
crossed
into
our
realm,
recognized
on
the
last
slide
that
you
are
proposing
an
approval
package
later
in
the
fall
for
us,
but
I
want
to
know
when
is
the
time
that
ottawa
will
form
its
position.
E
I
I
would.
I
would
have
thought
that
today's
report
was
our
opportunity
to
define
additional
parameters
or
additional
concerns
or
opportunities,
so
that
gatineau,
council,
sto
and
their
consultants
can
meaningfully
adapt
their
plan
to
the
city
of
ottawa
context.
So
I
wonder,
if
you're
able
to
describe
why
why
we
don't
have
more
of
an
ottawa
position.
E
Today
is
an
update
I
recognize,
but
why?
Why
aren't
we
formalizing
a
city
of
ottawa's
position
or
a
council
position
to
to
participate
in
in
the
consultation
that
the
city
of
gatineau
has
undertaken.
F
Future
well
because
the
technical
work
has
not
been
finished
on
the
study,
so
it's
very
difficult
for
staff
to
formulate
a
position
to
recommend
to
committee
and
council,
so
the
work
is
continuing,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
for
committee.
Members
to
add
comment
provide
comment,
provide
direction,
perhaps
even
to
the
study
to
city
staff
so
that
we
can
share
that
without
the
sto
study
team.
I
mean
they're
here
as
well,
so
they
can
they're
listening
in
and
will
be
able
to
respond
to
any
suggestion
that
you
may
have.
E
Again
on
procedures,
so
I'm
glad
that
you
and
pat
are
our
advocates
at
those
tables
and
participate
in
the
granular
sort
of
element,
but
I
think
that
the
responsibility
of
either
asset
transportation,
committee
and
or
trans
transit
commission
is
important
and
I
don't
want
to
have
a
fair
complete
in
november
when
some
of
the
some
of
the
concerns
or
opportunities
that
we
see
might
then
be
dismissed
because
of
the
timing
or
because
of
a
no
answer.
E
So
I'll
get
back
on
the
speakers
list,
but
wonder
if
out
of
this
committee,
we
can
form
directions
that
are
appropriate
and
formalize
vivi
and
pat's
involvement
and
and
formalize
the
city
of
ottawa's
position
on
the
matter.
I
think
there's
some
elements
that
I
imagine
sto
will
be
happy
with.
I
imagine,
for
example,
as
the
underground
elements
are
less
impactful
to
our
residents.
That
certainly
would
be
favorable
that
an
integration
to
our
lrt
stations
would
also
be
favorable.
E
I
imagine
there's
a
lot
of
points
that
we
should.
We
should
formalize
out
of
this
committee
that
give
our
our
team
and
and
their
team
clarity.
F
Yes,
I
think
that
was
a
comment
that
committee
can
provide
direction
to
help
staff.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
there's
also
the
the
issue
that
seo
is
trying
to
solve
and
that's
connecting
their
western
of
growth,
bringing
their
which
is
exceeding
33
percent
as
the
planned
growth
and
that
how
do
they
move
these
people
and
and
the
the
direction
they
want
to
do,
that
is
through
transit,
moving
from
the
the
west
to
the
downtowns.
F
So
that's
the
focus
of
the
study.
If
there
are
other
needs
elsewhere,
it
may
be
out
of
scope
of
this
study,
but
so
this
is
the
problem
that
they're
trying
to
solve,
and
this
is
the
what
you're
seeing
it
to
date
is
the
results
of
some
of
the
analysis
to
date
and
talking
about
the
two
corridors
in
gatineau.
The
one
corridor
in
ottawa
crossing
at
portage.
E
So
so,
mr
chair
I'll,
be
listening
to
our
our
colleagues
and
and
committee
members
comments
and
maybe
we
can
regroup
at
the
end
and
decide
what's
the
best.
What's
the
best
approach
within
the
scope
in
terms
of
formalizing
the
city
of
ottawa's
position,
so
I'll
I'll
take
myself
off
the
speaker's
list.
I
do
have
questions
on
the
report
itself,
but
just
from
a
procedural
point
of
view,
I
remain
I.
I
was
confused.
Why
we're
not
formalizing
ottawa's
interests
in
in
in
the
consultants
reports.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
councillor
flurry
we'll
get
you
back
later
on.
We
have
a
counselor,
dudas
and
then
councillor
lulaf
and
followed
by
that
councillor.
Kavanaugh.
B
Wonderful
thank
you
chair.
I
wanted
to
to
thank
vivi
for
this
presentation
and
I
wanted
to
thank
gatineau
and
sto
for
all
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
to
get
to
this
point,
as
well
as
the
technical
briefing
that
was
provided
much
earlier.
You
know,
I
think
I
know
that
strengthening
our
relationship
with
gatineau
in
terms
of
our
transit
system
is
a
huge
advantage
and
we
should
be
operating
as
a
national
capital
region
when
it
comes
to
our
transit
systems.
B
I
I
agree
with
councillor
fleury
when
I,
when
he
indicated
that
it'd
be
nice
to
know
what
the
next
step
in
this
process
is
because
there's
a
lot
of
elements
of
this
plan
that
are
going
to
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
city
of
ottawa
and
our
residents
and
our
commuters
and
our
transit
system.
So
I
think
that
they'll
be
valuable
to
know
where
we
go
from
here.
In
terms
of
formulating
that
that
decision,
my
question
is
in
respect
to
the
feasibility
of
the
spark
street
underground
option.
B
So
when
I
was
looking
at
all
the
documentation
that
was
provided
before
this,
it's
quite
clear
that
the
majority
of
residents
who
responded
to
the
survey
were
in
favor
of
that.
I
know
that,
from
my
personal
perspective,
impeding
the
visual
aesthetics
of
our
parliament
hill
is
not
an
option
to
me.
I
don't
you
know.
I
know
that
it
probably
seems
to
be
the
easier
choice,
but
once
again,
once
we
impede
that
visual
aspect,
we
can't
get
that
back.
So
I'm
just
curious
as
to
you
know
the
cost.
F
Chair,
if
I
can
respond
technically,
it
is
feasible
to
get
the
tunnel
through
underneath
spark
street.
Of
course,
it'll
be
complicated,
they're
utilities
that
have
to
be
avoided
or
relocated,
so
there
is
some
cost
there.
As
for
whether
sto
is
views
us
as
a
viable
option,
I
think
you're
right
counselor.
That
cost
is
a
concern,
but
if
I
may
turn
this
over
to
perhaps
madame
nadeau
to
to
respond.
B
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question,
as
mrs
she
was
mentioning,
it
is
obviously
the
cost
is,
is
a
concern
and
we're
we're
looking
into
it.
We're
refining
estimates
right
now,
but
at
this
point
in
time
it's
not
a
question
that
I
can
give
an
answer
to,
but
it's
definitely
one
component
around
which
we
need
to.
B
We
need
to
address
in
the
long
term,
and
it's
also
something
that
this
studies
is
to
clarify
what
will
be
the
costs
of
each
option
and
then
obviously
be
an
input
to
the
the
recommendation
that
we'll
have
to
to
make
in
going
through
with
this,
the
study
and
this
project
that
we
need
to
transport
or
our
residents
from
our
west
end
to
your
downtowns
and
vice
versa.
B
Thank
you.
I,
I
think
that
that
you
know
we're
having
this
conversation
about
what
this
all
looks
like
right
now,
but
if
one
of
the
options
that
is
on
the
table
might
not
be
feasible
due
to
cost,
then
that's
not
really
an
option
at
all.
So
I
think
that
you
know
to
counselor
fleury's
point
understanding
the
process.
What
comes
next
for
the
city
of
ottawa
is
is
somewhat
essential,
because
once
again
we
can't
have
a
fulsome
conversation.
If
we
don't
know
if
one
of
the
options
is
is
actually
a
viable
option,
so
thank
you.
A
Great
thank
you
for
that.
We
have
a
counselor
luloff
and
I
just
noticed
some
other
committee
members
that
have
popped
on
count
as
vice
chair
leaper
and
then
we'll
go
to
counselor
cavanaugh.
Sorry
about
that
teresa.
I
I
F
Yes,
counselor,
that
is
the
big
issue
about
the
wellington
option,
the
narrow
right-of-way
and
all
the
competing
needs
in
there
and
by
squeezing
in
the
tramway
we
will.
It
will
have
an
impact
on
traffic
and
that's
the
to
the
degree
and
whether
that
can
be
mitigated,
that's
still
being
discussed
at
the
staff
level.
But
you
know
it's
it's
quite
obvious
that
when
you
take
lanes
away,
then
there
will
be
some
impact
on
other
streets.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of.
Can
we
mitigate
the
negative
impact?
Is?
F
I
Okay,
so
we
have
been
continued
to
invest
billions
in
our
transit
system
and
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
not
really
much
of
a
need
for
redundant
sto
vehicles
in
the
downtown
core.
So
are
there
any
discussions
about
making
bayview
the
hub
where
seo
customers
could
simply
transfer
onto
oc
transpo.
F
Buses
at
bayview,
so
they
would
have
to
come
across
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
then.
I
F
Okay,
so
that
is
not
has
not
been
reviewed
as
far
as
I
know
in
this
study,
but
I
do
know
that
pat
scrimgeour
and
patrick
leclerc
and
their
teams
have
ongoing
discussions
on
how
to
coordinate
and
improve
a
transit
into
provincial
transit.
Even
without
you
know,
new
projects
like
this.
I
It
just
it
just
seems
to
me
that
you
know
we've
invested
so
much
money
in
a
great
transit
system
that
currently
is
functioning
quite
well
with
excess
capacity
that
to
layer
a
second
transit
system,
a
second
separate
transit
system
on
top
of
it
is
quite
redundant.
So
trying
to
you
know,
get
the
closest
transfer
point
to
the
other
side
and
to
use
that
as
a
hub
would
be
a
better
option
than
overlaying
two
transit
systems
on
top
of
each
other.
I
Just
a
point:
do
we
have
final
say
in
what
kind
of
construction
or
work
is
done
in
the
jurisdiction
of
the
city
of
ottawa?
If
the
sto
decides
to
go
with
a
model
that
doesn't
work
from
our
perspective,
what
recourse
do
we
have
as
the
city
of
ottawa.
F
If
it
were
wellington
that
was
selected
at
the
end
of
the
day,
of
course,
staff
will
be
working
on
behalf
of
a
committee
and
council
before
that
point
before
we
have
to
bring
the
presentation
forward
to
look
at
the
issues.
The
impacts
for
ottawa
and
the
ncc
would
also
be
looking
at
this
as
well
as
well
as
the
pspc.
F
So
we
will
try
to
mitigate
as
much
of
the
negative
impacts
as
possible
and
report
to
you
on
on
the
outcome.
There
will
be
trade-offs
if
it's
on
wellington.
That's
that's
for
sure.
There
won't
be
because
we
just
can't
fit
everything
in
and
what
are
those
trade-offs
and
that's
what
we
will
have
to
review
very
carefully
and
and
then
present
that
information
to
you
at
the
next
reporting.
I
Okay,
fair
enough,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
putting
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
solve
one
problem
by
creating
five
more,
I
want
to
see
greater
integration
between
our
two
systems.
Absolutely
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
live.
You
know
in
my
ward
that
travel
across
the
bridge
every
day
to
go
to
work.
We
have
a
large
bilingual
community
and
it
you
know,
makes
sense
that
they
would
be
going
to
place
deportation.
I
It
absolutely
makes
sense,
but
the
the
issue
here
is:
you
know
what
are
we
doing
to
everybody
else:
who's
traveling
across
that
bridge
that
lives
in
the
downtown
core,
and
what
are
we
doing
to
the
to
to
our
traffic?
The
rest
of
the
time?
So
I'm
just
I'm
very
concerned
that
we're
you
know
solving
one
problem
and
creating
five,
so
I
just
hope
that
that's
something
that
we
think
about
throughout
this
process.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
councillor
luloff
and
just
before
we
go
to
vice
chair
leaper.
I
just
would
like
to
consult
with
the
clerk's
office
and
katelyn,
I
believe,
you're
on.
If
we
were
looking
to
try
to
form
some
kind
of
opinion
in
today's
kind
of
meeting,
would
this
be
the
appropriate
opportunity
or
if
you
can
give
us
some
guidance.
C
A
C
Currently,
this
report
is
not
scheduled
to
rise
to
council
for
approval,
so
at
any
point
in
time
a
member
could
bring
forward,
through
the
usual
notice
of
motion
process,
a
resolution
to
take
a
position
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
were
there
to
be
the
forthcoming
report
for
approval.
It
could
be
done
at
that
time.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
this
on
procedure.
Caitlyn.
If
this
committee
chose
the
important
requested
that
this
report
go
to
council,
would
that
give
it
a
window
to
form
a
a
direction.
C
Mr
chair
you'll
have
to
excuse
me
I
I
was
reading
the
recommendation,
but
not
the
routing
of
the
report.
This
is
actually
scheduled
to
go
to
council
for
information
as
well.
So
yes,
there
would
be
opportunity
between
now
and
council
to
formulate
something
of
that
nature.
A
Very
good
point,
thank
you
and
thanks
for
clarifying
that
matt
I'll
go
to
a
vice
chair,
leaper,
counselor,
kavanagh
and
then
right
back
to
you.
H
Thanks
thanks
chair,
I
I
I
do
wonder
and
I
I
don't
want
to
start
going
down
a
procedural
rabbit
hole
but
caitlyn.
If
this
committee
chose
to
pass
a
motion
today
to
recommend
a
a
position
or
or
provide
guidance
to
staff,
I
I
believe
that
that
would
be
in
order.
C
Mr
chair,
yes,
where
a
matter
is
submitted
to
a
standing
committee
for
action
that
pertains
to
taking
a
formal
position
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
asking
another
level
of
government
for
action,
this
matter
would
then
be
submitted
to
council
for
approval
under
the
procedure
by
law.
H
Perfect
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we're
going
to
go
down
that
path
today,
but
I
do
want
to
understand
the
drawbacks
to
the
wellington
proposal
in
a
bit
more
depth
because
it
sounds
like
some
of
them
are
deal
breakers,
where
the
negative
impacts
of
the
wellington
proposal
require
mitigations.
I'm
wondering
vivi.
If
you
can
take
us
through
what
some
of
the
mitigations
being
explored
are.
H
For
example,
you
know,
councilor
lulaf
has
already
brought
up
moving
the
traffic
into
other
parts.
We
also
know
that
there
are
the
driveways
on
parliament
hill
there's
multiple
intersections,
trying
to
get
some
sort
of
a
tram
capacity
down
wellington.
A
peak
is
going
to
be
extremely
challenging.
What
what
are
we
looking
at
by
way
of
mitigations?
That
would
suggest
it's
premature
to
make
a
determination,
even
today,
that
that's
not
a
viable
option
for.
H
F
Oh,
I'm
sorry
there
so
counselor.
The
the
mitigation
could
include
the
ability
if
the
vets
want
to
give
more
land
more
property,
to
increase
the
right-of-way
for
this
project
so
that
we
can
fit
in
all
of
the
elements
with
the
proper
design
standards
and
widths
and
everything
else,
because
it
is
very
tight
in
the
section
east
of
bank,
the
you
know,
the
cycling
facility
is
below
standards
for
for
design
through
there
and,
if
there's
more
land,
we
could
address.
F
Potentially
some
improvements
so
mitigate
some
of
the
traffic
concerns,
maybe
maybe
not
so.
There
are
these
things
that
have
to
be
explored,
but
you're,
absolutely
right.
I
think
the
accesses
onto
parliament
hill,
that's
that
could
be
a
game
changer
for
this
corridor
on
wellington.
If
that
has
to
be
maintained,
that's
a
number.
You
know
eight
access
points,
that's
a
lot
of
conflict
potential,
conflict
points
for
vehicles
crossing
the
tramway
and
to
to
head
on
to
the
park
onto
parliament
hill
and
it
disrupts
the
the
efficient
flow
of
the
tramway.
F
So
we're
still
going
through
all
of
these
issues
right
now,
for
so
that's
for
wellington
for
sparks.
You
know
there
are
mitigating
measures
that
have
to
be
taken
as
well,
because
at
the
portal
it
affects
the
pathways
that
are
there
now.
Some
of
the
landscaping
I
mean
these
things
can
be
engineered
into
the
design
and
the.
How
do
the
riders
come
up
to
the
surface?
Where
would
those
access
points
be
with
the
buildings
so
we're?
F
We
recognize
that
there's
still
some
very,
very
big
issues
to
address,
and
particularly
the
viability
of
one
corridor
over
another
one
is
about
cost
and
the
other
one
is
about
the
right-of-way
that's
available
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
particularly
space.
That's
needed
for
the
platforms,
we're
expecting
thousands
of
people
to
get
on,
get
off
the
bus
or
off
the
tramway
at
lion
in
the
morning
and
more
boarding.
You
know
hundreds
boarding
there
as
well
to
to
head
to
gatineau
in
the
morning.
F
So
what
do
we
do
there
for
signal
timing,
not
just
for
the
space
for
people
to
collect
the
signal
timing
to
allow
pedestrians
to
cross,
and
what
does
that
do
to
the
traffic
there
is
it
was?
It
is
being
proposed
around
line
that
there
would
be
an
underpass
for
pedestrians
to
get
on
onto
the
south
side
of
wellington,
and
it
can
also
this
project
is
also
reviewing
if
that
underpass
can
also
connect
to
the
to
the
confederation
line
further
south.
So
we're
not
ready
yet
to
identify
mitigation
measures
for
traffic.
F
Perhaps
there's
something
to
do.
We
can
do
with
traffic
metering
on
the
bridge
so
that
vehicles
coming
off
the
bridge.
Will
you
know
they
would
get
lower
priority
because
there
is
an
investment
here
in
transit
for
the
the
tramway.
So
those
are
the
things
that
we
have
to
discuss
with
the
city
of
gatineau
as
well,
because
that
will
also
affect
their
transportation
network
and
their
planning
in
that
area.
H
Okay,
so
what
I've?
What
I've
heard
with
respect
to
the
wellington
option,
is
that
you
know
some
of
the
potential
mitigations
might
be
things
like
providing
pedestrian
underpasses
working
with
traffic
metering
to
try
to
prioritize
the
transit
through
that
corridor,
and
then
I
think
stickiest,
maybe
of
all,
is,
is
giving
a
chunk
of
parliament
hill's
lawn
to
the
project
in
order
to
make
the
right-of-way
work
and
that's
going
to
be
controversial.
F
H
H
While
we
may
want
to
continue
looking
at
how
to
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
wellington
corridor,
that,
at
least
on
a
preliminary
basis,
our
direction
with
staff
is
to
is
to
focus
on
or
prioritize
a
sparks
option,
recognizing
that
the
hurdle
there
is
is
going
to
be
cost,
but
a
number
of
these
mitigations
things
like
building
underpasses
in
order
to
facilitate
pedestrian
flow
and
and
try
to
make
the
right-of-way
work.
Those
are
not
going
to
be
cheap
either
so
yeah
I'll
leave
it
there
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Vice
chair,
leaper,
I'll,
go
on
to
councillor
kavanaugh
and
then
councillor
fleury.
J
Thank
you
very
much
chair
as
someone
who
worked
on
parliament
hill
for
almost
30
years,
the
idea
of
getting
rid
of
traffic
on
wellington
is
really
great.
The
parliamentary
precinct
slipped
over
to
the
other
side
of
wellington
years
ago,
despite
their
efforts
to
keep
it
on
one
side
of
wellington.
A
number
of
buildings
that
are
part
of
the
precinct
are
on
the
opposite
side
and
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth.
J
As
someone
who
was
a
committee
coordinator
for
years
running
around
to
committees
in
the
different
buildings,
your
back
and
forth,
I
would
love
to
see
as
much
traffic
off
of
wellington
as
possible.
It
always
bothered
me
that
our
our
most
prized
possession
in
ottawa
was
blocked
with
traffic
and
buses,
and
so
I
would
I
would
favor
moving
towards
the
tunnel
eventually,
because
just
to
get
things
off
of
wellington
altogether.
J
It's
it's
a
shame.
You
can't
ride
your
bike
in
front
of
parliament
hill
at
all.
It's
it's
impossible.
The
the
buses
are
there,
actually,
the
biggest
hurdle
and
no
one's
talked
about.
That
is
the
tourist
buses
and
I
don't
know
with
covet
right
now:
it's
not
as
a
factor
but
they're,
always
there
and
they're
constantly
parked
along
that,
and
it's
it's
a
huge
hazard.
So
I
don't
know
how
that
fits
in.
But
my
question
is
is:
are
we
looking
at
that?
J
If
we
talk
to
the
what
is
the
conversation
with
the
with
parliament
on
on
this
on
this
conversation,
because
we
know
that
that's
that's
a
big
part
of
what
they
do
every
day,
the
idea
of
tunnels
underneath
I
always
dreamed
about
that-
I
don't
know
if
people
know
but
there's
the
central
parliament
building,
which
obviously
is
not
going
to
be
open
for
a
few
more
years,
had
tunnels
to
both
east
block
and
west
block,
and
so
you
never
had
to
go
outside
in
the
old
days
now,
with
everything
being
buildings
being
taken
over
on
the
opposite
side
running
back
and
forth,
and
it's
it's
not
that
you
know
I'm
prioritizing
people
who
work
on
parliament
hill,
but
it
was
a
hazard
and
and
the
connection
is,
is
pretty
bad
in
terms
of
going
back
and
forth.
F
J
So
is
there,
is
it
realistic
that
there'd
be
tunnels
put
in
that
to
like,
like
counselor
leaper
was
talking
about?
Is
that
is
that
feasible
if
they
did
go,
that
tram
route.
F
They're
on
wellington:
yes,
there
is
a
pedestrian
tunnel
underneath
wellington
near
lyon.
F
That's
the
only
one
that's
been
identified
for
now,
because
because
that's
what's
needed
for
this
transit
project,
if
they're
tunnels
for
other
purposes
they're,
not
within
the
scope
of
this
study
and
and
of
course,
on
the
sparks
tunnel
option
there
there,
it
does
include
connections
underground
to
our
confederation
line.
F
J
I
the
whole
object
of
this
for
for
sto
and
for
us
is
to
get
more
people
on
transit
and
out
of
cars
and
out
in
the
west
end.
That
is
a
major
place
that
people
go
to
I'm
sure
councillor.
J
Hubley
would
agree
with
me
that
a
lot
of
the
traffic
is
going
west
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
taken
into
consideration
in
terms
of
the
pattern
of
of
the
flow
of
traffic,
because
we've
got
our
our
stage
2
coming
out,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
people
use
it
is
that
taken
into
consideration
for
where
people
are
going
they're,
not
all
going
downtown.
A
lot
of
them
are
going
to
dnd
and
they're
going
to
the
high
tech
out
in
canada.
J
B
Yes,
thanks
for
the
for
the
question,
all
the
destination
points
have
been
looked
into
as
part
of
this
study
and
as
what
we're
doing
right
now,
for
instance,
is
a
starting.
Last
autumn
we
also
increased
the
frequency
of
buses
going
to
a
tennis
pasture
as
well
to
improve
the
connection
as
well
from
on
the
kind
of
the
west
end
of
the
the
city.
So
all
the
destination
point
not
only
downtown
but
they've
all
been
considered
and
they're.
All
part
of
the
study
as
well.
J
Okay,
that's
that's
good
to
know
because
we
are
working
on
the
stage
two
and
hopefully
people
will
use
it.
But
right
now
we
see
a
lot
of
quebec
license.
Plates
are
all
headed
down
the
parkway
and
they're
all
going
to
the
west
end
and
it's
big
part
of
the
the
traffic
situation.
So
we
want
to
encourage
them
as
much
as
possible
to
use
transit
in
the
future,
so
bob.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Great
counselor
cavanaugh
back
to
you
counselor.
If
there's
no
further
questions
from
other
members
back
to
counselor
flurry.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
love
the
engagement.
I
think
there's
so
much
opportunities
that
are
reflected
in
in
today's
comments.
By
no
means
should
we
take
this
as
a
as
a
setback,
but
a
a.
I
guess.
I
see
this
as
a
meaningful
outreach
on
engagement
on
ways
to
improve
our
transit
for
all
users,
that
you
be
a
resident
of
ottawa
or
gatineau.
That
you'd
be
a
that
you'd
be
working
on
on
the
ottawa
gatineau
side.
We
all
benefit
from
a
good
integration,
and
that
is
that
is
efficient,
wanted
to
go.
E
So
I
guess
my
questions
now
really
relate
to
the
report
itself.
Vivi,
when
you
and
I
communicated
you
had
highlighted
that
the
the
the
monument
reflection
in
the
report
was
a
an
anomaly
and
was
going
to
be
corrected.
E
I
still
see
it
stands
in
this
report
and
I
wonder
if,
if
that
was
again
just
a
mistake
or
if
it's,
if
there's
new
information,
that
makes
it
relevant.
F
No,
that
shouldn't
be
there,
it
shouldn't
have
there
shouldn't
be
reference
to
impact
on
the
the
monument
at
the
portal
end.
F
I
can
I
thought
we
had
taken
it
out,
but
let
me
let
me
review
that.
Thank
you.
E
E
Yet,
as
a
committee
as
representative
of
ottawa
residents,
we
should
be
ensuring
that
that
is
our
primary
interest
in
this
in
this
study,
so
I
see
pat's
image
I
imagine
pat,
is
it
possible
for
you
to
formalize
how
each
scenario
impacts
oc
transpo
writers,
that
cross
onto
the
gatineau
side.
G
Certainly,
both
options
would
improve
our
server
service
for
ottawa
residents
who
work
in
gatineau.
Currently,
those
customers
now
transfer
from
the
oc
transport
network
or
walk
to
downtown
stops
and
cross
into
getting
on
one
of
three
ways.
They
some
use.
The
oc
transport
services
that
run
across
the
show
gear
crossing
some
use,
the
oc
transfer,
buses
that
cross
the
portage
bridge
and
some
use
the
asto
busses
that
use
the
portage
bridge
with
either
of
these
two
options
in
place.
G
All
of
the
buses.
All
of
the
bus
connections
from
for
ottawa
residents
to
work
places
in
central
the
whole
sector
get
you
know
would
be
replaced
by
the
light
rail,
so
it's
likely
that
we
would
no
longer
need
to
run
oc
transfer
buses
across
the
portage
bridge.
It's
also
possible
that
the
attraction
and
the
ease
of
use
of
the
tramway
would
mean
that
we
could
reduce
the
number
of
buses
crossing
at
chaudiere
between
the
two
options.
G
G
So
it's
entirely
possible
that
we
would
attract
more
people
to
transit
with
the
the
spark
street
underground
alignment
and
the
direct
connections
into
parliament
and
line
stations,
then
with
offend
with
the
operation
of
wellington.
But
the
benefit
is
there
for
ottawa
residents
in
either
case.
E
I
think
this
is
great
information
and-
and
I
I
wish
I
had
read
that
in
the
report-
I
I
wonder
pat
and
vivi,
and
our
clerk
like
what
you
just
said
is
staff's
position.
Can
we
add
that
to
our
report?
I
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
that
story
is
missing
for
residents
of
ottawa
who
are
reading
a
city
of
ottawa
drafted
report.
E
Mr
chair,
I
wonder
yeah
I'm
waiting
for
greedy,
amended
going
into
to
to
the
brief
or
to
council's
information
item.
F
Okay,
so
perhaps
maybe
we
can,
we
will
work
with
the
city
clerk
on
this.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
that's
good
and,
and
to
your
point,
counselor
flurry.
You
know
there'll
be
time
as
well.
With
those
additional
comments,
it
seems
like
the
will
of
this
committee.
A
lot
of
people
are
really
focused
on
sparks.
I
know
it's
a
concern
for
myself.
If
you
can
work
with
caitlin
she's
agreed
to
work
with
you
before
council,
so
we
can
work
on
some
of
those
fine
strokes
and
maybe
find
that
direction
at
council.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
yeah,
I'll,
make
three
comments,
and
then
I
have
a
suggestion
for
consideration
of
committee.
If,
if
that
works,
so
I
guess
what
is
what
is
signed?
An
agreement
between
oc
transponders,
sto
and
many
of
us
know.
This
is,
is
the
way
our
integration
and
services
will
be
offered
generally
and
that
exists
today.
It's
partly
in
line
with
the
lrt
goals
and
its
integration,
and
I
guess,
as
part
of
this,
we're
not
carrying
through
those
agreement
goals
or
we're
not
clear
about
them.
E
Our
goals
is
to
improve
transit,
yet
reduce
buses
in
the
core.
That
would
be
an
sto
or
oc
transpo
bus.
So
for
me,
pat
and
his
team
and
john
at
the
time
worked
with
the
previous
chair,
stephen
blaine
and
and
the
mayor's
office
to
advance
that
agreement,
and
I'm
not
seeing
it
reflected
through
in
our
staff
report
so
again
I'll
leave
it
there
and
I'll
come
back
to
how
I
think
we
should
resolve
this,
then
the
public
consultation.
E
I
I'm
very
cautious
when
you
read
the
details
and
there's
a
good
there's,
a
good,
consultant's
report
that
gives
you
the
details
of
what
ottawa
residents
versus
gatineau
residents.
I
think
there's
mostly
commonalities
around
the
points,
but
it
is
a
it
is
an
effort
of
sto
and
unfortunately
I
I
I
think
the
voice
of
ottawa
residents
is
not
dominant.
E
So
I
hope
that,
ahead
of
the
recommendations
that
we're
going
to
see
in
november
that
we
would,
on
our
website,
extend
the
survey,
maybe
simplifying
it,
to
residents
of
ottawa
specific
so
that
we
as
re
as
representative
of
ottawa
residents,
can
better
inform
our
recommendations
and
then
the
last
one
sto
might
say
what
they
want
around
the
review
of
employment
notes,
as
per
counselor
kavanaugh's
comments.
But
that's
changing
weekly
shopify
is
closing
its
offices.
It's
not
reopening
my
wife
and
many
of
our
spouses
and
family
members
work
at
the
federal
government.
E
She
thought
she
was
going
back
in
the
fall
now
they've
bumped,
that
to
december
the
rumors
on
in
in
her
department.
Is
that
they're,
like
the
the
first
and
first
and
and
foremost,
people,
will
be
working
from
home
in
2021.?
E
E
So
you
know
I
would
recommend
that
aligning
with
oc
transpo
and
city
of
ottawa
objective
that
we
clearly
articulate
our
goals
of
less
buses
in
the
core
and
better
transit,
two
that
we
be
very
clear
on
the
importance
of
integration,
with
our
investment,
like
in
light
rail,
three,
that
we
prefer
underground
integration
to
to
our
existing
stations
and
then
four
that
we
put
some
element
of
requirement
to
consultation
around
employment
areas
with
the
ottawa
board
of
trade
with
some
of
our
large
employers,
including
pspc,
the
the
federal
government
realtor
in
this
environment.
E
So,
mr
chair,
I
don't
know
how
to
go
about,
I'm
glad
to
drive
I've
sort
of
written
those
on
the
side
of
the
table
here,
I'm
glad
to
formalize
them
I'd
love
to
get
staff
comment.
If
I
hope
it
doesn't,
it
starts
to
form
a
position,
but
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
restrict
going
into
to
november.
So,
mr
chair,
I
look
to
you
to
advise
me
as
to
how
to
advance
this.
If
you
want
me
to
send
something
formal
to
committee
members
and
the
clerk
I'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Councillor
fleury
and
just
before
I
wrap
up
on
this
item.
Is
this
something?
First
of
all,
I
think
john
manconi.
Are
you
on
the
line
right
now.
D
D
What
I
would
suggest
to
my
colleague,
who
has
those
three
recommendations,
and
this
report
actually
just
to
be
received
for
information-
maybe
he
can
submit
those
to
vivi
and
her
team
and
they
can
work
on
it
with
the
clerk's
office,
see
how
to
integrate
it
through
the
information
report.
I
think
that
would
be
the
proper
way
to
give
enough
time
for
our
staff
to
digest
it
and
present
it
to
us.
With
the
report
on
a
council
meeting.
A
Exactly-
and
that
was
going
to
be-
I
mentioned
that
prior
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
best
recommendation-
and
I
was
hoping
john-
would
be
here
because
it'd
be
great
to
have
his
feedback
on
it.
There
will
be
time
and,
as
mentioned,
caitlin
is
committed
to
working
with
you
cancer
flurry.
So
if
you're
good
with
oh
there's
john
right
there,
hello,
john-
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
heard
the
last
component
of
that,
I
think
you
were
certainly
hearing
from
many
members
of
this
committee.
A
First
of
all,
this
project
seems
to
be
moving
pretty
fast
from
the
sto
point
of
view,
but
they
really
want
to
hone
in
on
those
three
items
and
I've
heard
it
from
many
of
the
community
members.
Would
this
be
suffice
to
work
with
the
clerk's
office
to
be
able
to
get
some
of
these
additional
items
put
into
the
report
before
we
actually
receive
it
at
council?.
D
E
Of
the
things,
if
we
were
in
person,
we
would,
it
could
have
been
easier
to
share,
but
john,
I'm
glad
to
do
that
again.
So
we
have
a
recommendation
report
in
front
of
us.
An
information
report
in
front
of
us
as
the
as
pat
and
vivi
are
continuing
to
do
great
work.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
we,
as
committee,
play
a
role
in
in
in
setting
some
of
the
the
parameters
at
a
high
level,
so
that
in
november
those
objectives
are
attained.
E
So
you
know
I'm
drafting
these,
I'm
certainly
flexible
to
them,
but
it
would
be
something
like
one
aligning
with
oc,
transpo
and
city
of
auto
objectives:
less
buses
in
the
core,
yet
better
transit,
two
integration
with
our
investment,
the
light
rail
train,
three
preferred
option
for
the
integration
is
underground
and
then
for
mandating
or
requiring
sto
to
update
its
employment
area
considerations
by
engaging
with
large
employers,
the
ottawa
board
of
trade
and
including
pspc.
E
I'm
glad
to
amend
these.
If,
if
you
feel
that
they're
too
specific
or
we
need
additional
clarity,
but
as
as
the
chair
highlighted,
we,
we
can
maybe
work
with
the
clerk
ahead
of
this
report
coming
to
council
to
just
to
to
make
this
hoarding
staff
supported.
H
Certainly
a
chair,
none
of
those
sound
out
of
line,
in
fact,
both
you
and
and
members
of
your
committee
have
talked
to
me
about
those
are
pretty
fundamental
things
that
we
all
want
this
project
to
be
successful.
What's
important
here
is
that
yes,
sto
is
on,
you
know
a
very
aggressive
schedule.
They
need
this
project
and
we're
supportive
of
it,
but
we've
been
very,
very
clear
with
them
that
our
community
needs
to
have
its
lens
applied
to
it.
So
so
chair,
I'm
in
your
hands.
H
I
believe
all
those
are
are
already
ingrained
in
kind
of
our
principles
that
we're
doing,
but
if
that
gives
the
committee
more
comfort,
absolutely
what's
important
in
this
checkpoint
is,
is
that
you
know
we're
we're
narrowing
down
on
the
what,
which
is
integration,
great
service,
all
those
things
that
you
know
both
both
counts
on
both
sides
of
the
river
want,
and
we
want
to
get
it
right,
and
we've
been
very
clear
with
sto
that
we're
great
partners.
H
We
want
to
work
with
them,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
our
city,
council
and
our
city
has
comfort
in
the
project.
It
is
a
significant
project
and
we
need
to
take
our
time
in
terms
of
making
getting
it
right.
So
chair,
I'm
in
your
hands,
if
you
and
the
vice
chair
and
the
committee
are
good
with
that
vv,
that's
not
a
problem.
I
believe.
F
No
not
at
all
I
mean
those
are
the
principles
that
we
are
working
with,
but
I
think
counselor
fleury
is
asking
for
our
staff
report
to
be
revised
to
reflect
this.
We
could
add
a
few
paragraphs,
but
this
is
I'm
fine,
I'm
fine
with.
What's
there
it's
just
how
I'll
work
with
the
clerk's
office
to
see
how
this
can
be
rolled
out
for
council.
The
easiest
way
when
the
report
goes
to
council
next
week.
A
So
wonderful,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
so
councillor,
fleury
you're
good
with
that
you
can
work
with
the
clerk's
office.
Great
great
points,
I'm
glad
you
actually
brought
many
of
those
up
so
just
as
a
quick
wrap
up
on
this
item
before
we
receive
it
yeah.
I
think
we've
heard
the
will
of
the
committee
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
from
multiple
things
from
what
the
location
origin
destination
is
from
the
number
of
buses
being
reduced
in
our
downtown
area.
A
Is
it
enough?
So
hopefully
we
can
get
some
resolution
as
we
get
closer
to
november,
when
a
more
final
recommendation
comes
back.
So
thank
you
committee
for
your
input
on
this
item
and
thank
you
councillor,
fleury,
for
bringing
that
up
so
on
this
item.
Is
this
item
kerry.
A
Thank
you
so
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
It
is
the
installation
of
the
safety
enhancements
on
the
bank
street
canal
bridge.
Now
we
do
have
three
delegations,
but
prior
to
that,
if
I
can
get
councillor
menard,
he
has
an
additional
motion
that
goes
along
with
this
report.
If
you
can
read
that,
please.
K
Yes,
thanks
very
much
chair,
and
this
is
a
staff
supported
motion
on
the
safety
enhancements
of
the
bank
street
bridge,
whereas
the
report
entitled
installation
of
safety
enhancements
on
bank
street
canal
bridge
was
distributed
with
the
transportation
committee
agenda
of
3rd
september
2020
and
whereas
the
legal
implications
and
accessibility
impact
sections
are
mandatory
components
of
every
report
and
whereas,
since
the
distribution
of
the
original
report,
council
bernard
has
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
staff
and
legal
services
and
the
corporate
accessibility
office
to
bolster
the
report's
accessibility
considerations,
including
consideration
for
consultations
with
the
city's
accessibility
advisory
committee
and
whereas
the
revised
legal
implications
and
accessibility
sections
attached
as
document
1
and
2
to
this
motion
should
be
included
in
the
report
before
this
report
rises
to
council,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
transportation
committee
approved
the
revisions
to
pages
15
and
16
of
that
report.
A
2020,
so
at
this
point
kelly,
maybe
you
can
assist
me
on.
I
have
the
delegations
list
in
front
of
me
here.
So
the
first
one
is
michael
powell
is
michael
online.
A
I
believe
he
is
and
I'll
just
remind
members
of
this
committee,
if
you
can
lower
your
hand
at
this
point
or
just
at
the
delegations
component
and
unless
you
have
questions
for
the
actual
delegates,
all
right,
michael
all,.
L
Right,
hey,
I
I'm
able
to
make
this
work.
It
feels
like
half.
My
life
is
now
spent
on
zoom
calls,
and
I
appreciate
being
able
to
do
this
remotely
it's
it's
much
easier
than
even
in
normal
times
hi.
My
name
is
mike
powell.
I
am
a
resident
of
an
adjacent
ward,
but
I
also
am
a
former
chair
of
the
rhodes
and
cycling
advisory
committee.
I
wanted
to
speak
very
vociferously
in
favor
of
this
motion.
You
know
the
bank
street
bridge
has
been
a
challenge
and
a
hazard
for
a
long
period
of
time.
L
It's
a
bridge
that
predates
road
and
vehicular
travel
and
in
a
meaningful
way
and
just
doesn't
have
enough
space.
If
we
were
to
put
a
new
bridge
there
today,
it
would
have
space
for
people
in
all
modes
of
transportation,
be
it
on
foot
on
bikes
or
you
know,
buses
and
cars,
and
I
think
the
solution
here
is
a
pretty
good
one.
It's
not
perfect,
obviously,
but
dramatically
improves
the
situation
and
what
I
think
it
it
does
is.
L
It
adds
a
safer
way
of
getting
across
the
the
rito
canal
and
if
you
live
not
just
in
old
ottawa
south
or
in
the
glebe
like
even
for
me,
looking
to
get
from
the
you
know,
dalhousie
area
into
carlson
university
or
to
go
to
the
mayfair
or
stella
luna
in
on
bank
street
crossing
the
canal
is
a
hazard,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
traveling
with
a
small
child.
I
might
be
comfortable
on
my
own
on
a
bike
getting
over
that,
but,
with
my
you
know,
five-year-old
who's.
You
know
very
confident.
L
It's
the
only
space
where
I
have
to
mix
with
traffic
and
make
a
choice
between
you
know
her
being
on
a
sidewalk
and
there
being
a
hazard
or
you
know,
being
on
the
road
which
is
an
even
different
one.
So
this
is,
you
know,
a
good
compromise
and
I'm,
I
hope
that
you
see
fit
to
move
it
forward
and
congratulations
to
councillor
bernard
for
finally
shaking
this
one
and
finding
something
that
might
work.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
michael
I'm.
Looking
there's
no
questions,
but
I
do
appreciate
it's
not
all
the
time
we
get
positive
people
coming
in
about
projects.
So
thank
you
for
coming
in
today.
Our
next
delegation.
A
M
Okay,
I
had
a
couple
slides.
A
No
problem
kelly:
do
we
have
access
to
those?
We
won't
start
the
time
until
we
get
them
up.
M
All
right,
sorry,
let
me
just
make
my
own
screen
smaller
here
where's,
the
thing
there
we
go:
okay,
yeah!
So
next
next
slide.
Sorry
thanks!
M
So,
first
of
all
a
great
big
thank
you
we're
I'm
from
bike
ottawa,
I'm
on
the
board
of
bike
ottawa,
and
we
are
really
really
really
happy
to
see
the
installation
of
some
multi-use
paths
on
the
bridge
and
we
wholeheartedly
support
putting
them
in
on
either
side
to
get
across
the
bridge.
M
M
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
We
definitely
understand
the
city's
position
for
keeping
the
third
lane
for
the
bus
layups
for
events
at
lansdowne
and
things
like
that.
However,
we
would
really
encourage
staff
to
rethink
inserting
some
kind
of
concrete
buffer
to
fully
integrate
an
880
or
all
ages
and
abilities
design.
The
sidewalks
that
are
to
be
widened
for
the
multi-use
path
are
really
high.
M
Along
the
bridge
and
with
kids
and
teens
crossing
to
connect
to
schools,
the
barrier
will
make
this
very
safe
for
everyone
riding
and
walking
alongside
the
buses
that
are
going
by,
and
we
want
to
remind
staff
that
in
toronto
a
few
years
ago,
there
was
an
unfortunate
incident
where
a
child
of
five
years
old
along
the
waterfront
path,
actually
fell
into
the
live
driver
lanes
and
he
was
killed
because
he
was
hit.
So
we
want
to
to
encourage
you
to
be
proactive
to
get
this
right,
the
the
first
time.
M
We
know
that,
then
the
lanes
are
being
narrowed,
which
is
great
because
that's
going
to
reduce
driver
speeds,
but
the
barrier
would
sort
of
solidify
that.
So
as
a
result,
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
want
to
encourage
you
to
look
at
what
the
ncc
did
on
the
portage
bridge
there.
The
bus
lanes
are
3.3
meters.
M
The
car
lanes
are
3.2
meters
and
there's
a
2.5
meter
buffer,
that's
along
there,
and
we
think
that
the
canal
street
bridge
could
use
a
similar
design
to
to
make
this
an
880
design
for
the
kids
that
are
crossing
for
school.
And
if
you
go
to
the
last
slide.
This
is
what
it
looks
like
today.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
barrier
there,
so
that
helps
and
we've
got
the
bus
lane
and
everything.
So
this
is
the
the
full-on
secure
way.
M
I
know
that
there
was
some
some
talk,
maybe
of
the
the
buffer
being
and
in
in
the
way
of
handlebars
and
things
like
that,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
portage
bridge
as
a
user,
there's
there's
no
issues
with
with
that.
It's
just
extra
security
for
separating
the
active
transportation,
user
and
and
the
buses
that
are
going
by
so
so.
M
In
conclusion,
we're
definitely
celebrating
and
dancing
over
here
about
the
much-needed
multi-use
pass
and
it's
going
to
be
a
really
important
piece
of
the
corridor
there
for
safety,
and
we
really
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
find
those
few
extra
centimeters
to
put
in
those
barriers
to
make
it
100
great
for
for
all
ages
that
are
going
to
use
the
bridge.
So
so
thank
you
and
get
those
centimeters
they're
there
thanks.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
barbara.
I
don't
see
any
questions
from
any
of
the
committee,
but
that
being
said,
I'm
sure
when
we
get
to
the
staff
questions,
your
counselor
will
definitely
raise
that
and
see
what
the
challenges
are
about.
What
you
brought
up
today,
our
last
and
final
delegation
is
sue.
Nell
is
sue
online.
N
Thank
you,
I'm
speaking
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
the
old
ottawa,
south
community
association
and
the
traffic
and
safety
committee
in
particular,
and
first
I'd
like
to
thank,
as
others
have
done,
counselor
menard
and
his
team
for
advancing
the
deliberations
on
on
this
dangerous
bridge,
and
hopefully
something
can
be
sorted
out.
The
bank
street
canal
bridge
is
a
critical
link
between
our
community
of
old
ottawa
south
and
the
glebe
and
lansdowne
park,
and
provides
a
direct
route
to
the
downtown
core
residents
of
old
ottawa.
N
South
are
heavy
users
of
the
bank
street
canal
bridge
and
therefore
take
a
great
interest
in
the
proposed
safety
enhancements
in
old
ottawa
south.
We
know
the
bridge
and
its
traffic
patterns.
Well,
we've
been
advocates
for
greater
safety
on
the
bridge,
particularly
for
cyclists,
who,
under
the
existing
configuration,
now
share
one
northbound
and
one
southbound
lane
with
motors
trucks
and
buses.
N
The
oscar
traffic
and
safety
committee
believes
in
believes
that
segregated
spaces
for
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
vehicles
provide
the
safest
and
most
sensible
bridge
configuration
and
we're
not
alone.
82
percent
of
the
respondents
to
the
recent
survey
either
strongly
agreed
or
or
agreed
with
the
statement.
I
think
it
is
important
to
give
all
road
users
pedestrians,
bicyclists
motorists
separated
space.
N
Our
preferred
design
is
one
which
gives
separate
space
to
each
of
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
motor
vehicles.
It
would
see
two
lanes,
one
northbound
and
one
southbound
for
vehicles,
two
bike
lanes
of
the
same
grade
as
the
motorized
vehicle
lanes
and
separated
raised
sidewalks.
This
is
described
in
alternate
design
number
five
in
document
one
of
this
report.
N
N
Perhaps
pedestrians
and
cyclists
can
coexist
in
the
same
space
in
areas
where
numbers
of
users
are
small,
but
not
on
busy
thoroughfares,
like
the
bank
street
bridge
cyclists,
either
wobble,
because
the
hill
is
too
steep
or
travel
too
fast,
especially
on
lengthy
downhill
sections
to
share
this
space
with
adults
with
shopping
bags.
Parents
with
children,
seniors
people
with
disabilities
or
residents
simply
out
for
a
stroll,
also
cyclists,
overtaking
slower
cyclists
will
inevitably
intrude
into
the
undefined
pedestrian
area.
N
N
A
Right
on
the
money
see
that
was
good
timing
right
now,
I
don't
see
any
hands
up.
Oh
actually,
counselor
menard
has
his
hand
up
oh
down
up
down.
Okay,
do
you
have
a
question
councilman.
K
Yeah,
just
to
the
thanks,
tim
sorry
to
charity.
K
Thanks
to
the
delegation
thanks
very
much
sue
for
for
coming
here,
you
know
obviously
there's
a
desire
to
go
further,
that
we've
gone
with
this
in
terms
of
looking
at
even
a
two-lane
solution
and
segregated
bike
lanes,
and
you
know,
I
think
you
know
our
position
of
of
what
staff
were
recommending
in
terms
of
the
options
analysis
that
we
had
looked
at
and
that's
why
we
ended
up
where
we
did
we're
kind
of
all
taking
compromise
with
this.
K
But
I
just
wanted
to
say
thanks
for
coming
out
with
with
your
comments
and
also
I
did
want
to
make
sure
you
did
see.
The
survey
result
that
87
of
of
the
over
400
participants
that
responded
indicated
that
they
preferred
the
proposed
design
in
front
of
committee
today
rather
than
the
current
design,
and
I
get
that
there's
the
the
difference
of
option
option
three,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
saw
that
as.
A
Okay,
so
on
that,
I
think
at
this
point
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
questions
to
staff
members,
councillor
jerus.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
delegation
for
their
input.
My
question
will
be
probably
to
staff:
where
is
the
300
000
coming
from
our
water
from
a
splash
pad
that
we're
cancelling
or
we're
not
moving
forward
with
it?
And
I
understand
so,
can
I
have
a
little
bit
background
on.
K
Okay,
so
there
was
a
potential
splash
pad
that
was
going
to
be
installed
through
strategic
initiative
funding
in
springhurst
park,
but
because
of
the
soil
conditions,
there
there's
very
difficult
soil
conditions
there,
it's
an
old
landfill,
and
so
it
could
not
be
installed
there,
and
so
that
was
moved
over
to
strategic
initiative
funding
and
is
able
to
be
moved
to
this
project
so
that
we
don't
have
any
funding
shortfalls
in
implementing
this.
L
Design,
mr
chair,
thank
you
to
you.
I
probably
I'll
ask
councilman,
or
maybe
so,
you're
moving
you're
taking
200
000
from
a
strategic
initiative
that
we
were
supposed
to
put
splash
pad
in
the
community.
L
Did
you
ask,
or
did
you
consult
with
that
community
or
because
I
know
you're,
you
know
you,
you
like
to
do
surveys
and
ask
the
community
their
input
on
before
we
move
from
one,
and
I
understand
you're,
and
I
get
your
initiative
for
the
safety
for
cyclists,
but
you're
really
taking
a
splash
path
from
community
which
is
family
and
kids
that
enjoy
in
the
summer
to
put
it
into
the
safety
and
cycles
lane.
That's
my
just
my
and
I'm
known
standard.
K
Oh,
it's
fine!
I
can
respond
to
it.
I
mean
the
the
the
splash
pad
was
determined
that
it
couldn't
go
forward
two
years
ago
and
the
community
was
aware
that
what
we've
done
instead
counselor
deroze
is
there's
four
small
projects
that
are
going
to
be
funded
through
our
cash
and
blue
for
springhurst
park,
which
desperately
needs
it.
They
are
actually
supposed
to
go
forward
this
year,
but
because
of
copen
19
they've
been
delayed
until
next
year,
including
a
new,
a
brand
new
park
facility,
but
also
ping
pong
tables
and
other
workout
facilities.
K
L
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
answering
it
just
for
me
from
when
people's
gonna
hear
that
we're
canceling
splash
pad
to
put
safety
for
bike
lane.
I
rather
see
that
you
use
the
three
hundred
thousand
from
your
cash
and
loot
for
that
project.
But
again
that's
it's
your
word
and
I'm
and
I
thank
you
very
much
for
the
answer
I'm
done.
Mr
chair.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and
I
think
I
applaud
council
menard
for
for
that
initiative,
because
we
all
travel
that
bridge,
no
matter
where
we
live
in
the
city
and
we
know
sometimes
the
conflict
that
bridge
create
for
safeties
and
also
we
had
to
be
creative,
this
term
of
council,
as
we
all
know,
budget
restraint
on
us
and
even
future
projects.
D
I
was
also
lucky
last
council
meeting,
not
like
the
one
before
that,
but
I
took
some
money
from
the
same
thing
from
cash
and
lou
and
we
switched
some
and
then
we
we
fixed
some
roads
with
with
the
same
with
the
same
amount
of
money.
So
I
applaud
the
council
for
being
creative
and
using
that
funding
wisely
for
safety.
So
thank
you
and
you
never
thought
I
will
say
that
sean
about
you.
So
thank
you.
Counselor.
A
Wow,
it's
kumba
yeah
here
this
is
great
so
just
before
I
give
it
back
to
council
menard
for
wrap
up.
I
do
want
to
thank
sean
and
all
the
staff.
We
put
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
in
this
many
many
hours
and
looked
under
the
seat,
cushions
to
be
able
to
find
even
that
money
to
make
this
program
go
ahead,
even
with
all
the
challenges
that
were
also
there
in
regards
to
the
the
status
of
the
bridge
and
how
wide
we
can
do
things.
A
I
think
you
know
is
it
what
all
cyclists
want?
No
is
it
what
all
vehicle
people
want?
No,
but
it's
a
good
harmony
of
the
two
and
it's
going
to
keep
people
safe.
Oh
council,
rule
off
story.
I
was
calling
for
wrap
up
already
but
feel
free
to
jump
in
real,
quick
there
and
then
we'll.
Let
you
know.
I
Very
very
quickly,
sorry
about
that.
I
just
want
to
thank
council
menard
for
for
coming
to
the
rest
of
the
members
of
the
committee
to
discuss
this
and
also
his
commitment
to
ensure
that
the
accessibility
advisory
committee
is
consulted
on
this
item.
We
really
really
appreciate
that
sean
and
thanks
so
much
for
that
initiative.
A
Great,
so
thank
you
sean
did.
You
want
to
do
a
quick
wrap-up
and
then
we'll
call
for
the
vote.
K
I
just
wanted
to
just
thank
staff
and
all
the
residents
who
who
are
applied
staff
have
been
great
throughout
this
in
terms
of
finding
different
options.
We
looked
at
about
seven
different
options,
and
this
was
the
one
that
came
to
the
fore
that
could
work.
The
many
others
put
it
for
a
lack
of
space
on
the
bridge.
It's
it's
really
tight
there,
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
get
a
big
improvement
here.
It's
going
to
be
a
larger
than
usual
multi-use
path
at
3.2
meters.
K
So
it's
going
to
be
a
big
improvement
for
not
just
residents
in
this
area,
but
anyone
who's
attending
lansdowne
events.
You
know
how
crushed
you
are
on
those
that
bridge
after
you
leave
a
lands
down
event,
but
also
people
that
are
coming
into
this
area.
It's
a
big
tourist
area.
K
A
So
on
so
on,
the
motion
is
this
item
carried
very,
very
married
and
as
amended
thanks
for
keeping
me
in
line
kelly
all
right,
we'll
move
down
to
the
last
item
on
the
agenda,
I
believe,
is
the
yes,
it's
the
sidewalks
that
we've
passed
the
motion
to
add
to
the
agenda
counselor
florida.
Did
you
want
to
ask
your
questions
now.
E
E
So
we've
heard
from
elderly
couples
not
able
to
walk
side
by
side
on
our
new
sidewalks
dog
walkers,
who
who
trip
up?
Who
they?
You
know,
we've
heard
of
winter
issues,
we've
heard
of
of
various
challenges
as
it
relates
to
that.
So
I've
engaged
with
staff
on
the
matter,
and
maybe
don't
have
questions
at
this
point,
but
maybe
just
understand
clear.
The
the
karina's
intentions
as
part
of
the
standards
review.
C
Oh
here,
I
am
thank
you
chair,
thank
you
counselor
for
your
question,
so
you
and
I
talk
a
lot
about
sidewalks
lately,
so
we
understand
the
concerns
that
yourself
and
other
members
of
council
or
community
have
raised
in
regards
to
the
sidewalk
standards
we
have
today.
C
We
are
committed
to
do
a
full
review
of
the
sidewalk
standards
in
the
2020-2021
standards
review,
so
it
was
not
part
of
our
plan,
but
enough
concerns
were
raised
that
that
triggered
us
to
pay
specific
attention
to
this
and
and
agreed
to
to
move
ahead
with
a
full
review
of
the
standards
we
have
today.
C
The
other
piece
that
I
like
to
comment
on
is
why
we
do
some
sort
of
community
consultation
on
some
of
our
standards.
It's
not
it's
not
the
practice
we
use
for
the
majority
of
them,
but
given
the
fact
that
the
users
are
our
community
and
they're
very
sensitive
to
this,
we
are
going
to
include
as
part
of
our
standards
review
and
outreach
and
community
consultation
citywide
to
get
feedback
from
everybody
that
would
like
to
provide
that
feedback
and
be
able
to
collect
that
information.
C
As
part
of
the
input
that
we
are
going
to
take
into
consideration
on
the
review,
so
you
have
my
commitment
that
our
service
will
do
a
full
stamp
review
of
the
standards
where
we're
going
to
land.
I
don't
know,
but
we
will
include
heavy
community
consultation.
Of
course,
all
internal
services
and
departments
that
are
touched
by
sidewalks,
either
maintenance
operations
and
anything
else.
E
Mr
chair,
I
just
want
to
again
highlight
it's:
it's
rare
that
the
engagement
between
a
community
or
a
counselor
rise
to
committee,
but
I
I
believe
that
the
inquiry
raised
a
bunch
of
points
and
want
to
highlight
how
how
diligent
our
staff
is.
It's
rare
that
the
community
and
the
media
get
to
see
how
engaged
our
our
team
is,
and
certainly
karina
here
is-
is
a
great
example
of
that,
and
certainly
the
team
with
her
as
well.
E
So
thank
you
karina
for
clarifying
the
approach
and
for
for
responding
to
community
concerns
in
this
regard.
You're
welcome.
A
Councilman,
thank
you
and
I
don't
see
hands
up.
I
just
want
to
echo
exactly
counselor
flurry.
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
as
we
talk
about
sidewalks,
we
all
talk
about
the
former
amalgamated
cities
in
gloucester.
I
don't
even
have
sidewalks
in
areas,
so
it's
always
a
concern
for
sure.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
on
that.
So,
since
this
do
we
receive
this
inquiry,
is
this
item
received
receive
great?
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
one
sec,
all
right,
flip
over
to
the
back
to
the
the
agenda.
So
I
guess
we're
going
on
to
inquiries
and
we
have
an
inquiry
and
maybe
we
can
get
it
put
up
on
the
screen.
It
says
counselor
flurry
but
is
is
counselor
egwy
online,
maybe
matt
is
actually
gonna.
Read
it
out.
There.
G
E
Kelly,
you
should
have
received
it.
Counselor
aglais
shared
it
with
you
and
I
yesterday
at
11
18.
If
that
is
of
nes
help.
A
G
E
You
met
for
here,
so
the
subject
is
snow
plowing
and
removal.
2020
2021
the
inquiry
is
the
following,
and
this
is
I'm
reading
it
on
behalf
of
egli
in
light
of
the
impending
winter,
and
the
likelihood
that
kova
2019
will
still
be
very
much
an
issue
that
the
city
will
be
dealing
with,
taking
into
account
that
many
people
will
continue
to
work
from
home
during
this
time,
please
provide
the
following
to
council
in
a
timely
fashion
so
that
ottawa
residents
can
know
what
to
expect
with
regards
to
snow
removal
protocols
and
practices
one.
E
What
is
the
plan
to
for
snow,
plowing
and
removal
to
make
sure
that
sidewalks
multi-use
pathways
throughout
the
city
are
kept
clear
and
accessible,
as
they
will
likely
be
used
more
by
people
working
from
home
and
get
children
to
and
from
school
to?
What
is
the
plan
to
allow
the
regular
snow,
plowing
and
removal
in
light
of
the
fact
that
more
cars
will
likely
be
parked
on
the
street
all
day
long
as
people
continue
to
work
from
home
three?
What
is
expected
of
residents
to
allow
timely
and
efficient,
no
plowing
and
removal?
E
G
Thank
you
very
much,
councillor
florian
and
just
very
briefly,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
as
well.
We
we
talked
about
this
over
the
last
day
or
so
so
this
inquiry
comes
out
a
number
of
discussions
that
I've
had
with
residents
who
have
said
to
me.
You
know
what
kids
I'm
going
to
be
working
from
home.
Kids
are
going
to
start
to
go
back
to
school,
my
husband's
working
from
home
as
well.
G
So
we
have
multiple
cars.
We
need
the
roads
clear,
so
we
can
get.
You
know
our
children
to
and
from
school
safety,
either
on
foot
or
by
driving
them,
and
so
we'd
like
to
know
what's
what's
coming
down
the
road
so
to
speak
in
terms
of
how
the
city
is
might
be,
addressing
that
and,
more
importantly,
what
what
the
expectations
of
the
city
are
going
to
be
on
on
residents.
G
So
I'm
I'm
bringing
in
september
while
the
weather
is
still
reasonably
good,
but
just
the
more
information
that
people
have
they
can
make
arrangements,
whether
that's
parking
arrangements
elsewhere,
sharing
driveways
with
with
neighbors.
What
have
you
so
that
they
can
adjust
to
to
what
we're
calling
the
new
normal
as
we
we
enter
into
winter?
G
I
suspect,
mr
chair,
from
previously
sitting
in
your
chair
and
wearing
that
hat,
that
the
the
team
has
already
considered
this
and
probably
has
been
considering
this
for
some
time
and
and
has
you
know
we're
formulating
options
and
plans.
G
I
just
think
the
sooner
we
can
get
that
information
out
to
the
public,
so
they
know
what's
expected
of
them
and
and
how
they
can
work
with
us
to
make
make
it
work
as
well
as
possible
again
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we'll
probably
have
more
people
full
time
in
our
communities
than
we
normally
do
this
coming
winter.
So
thank
you.
A
I
Yes,
so
thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
where's
the,
whereas
the
stranded
drive
widening
is
presently
under
construction
between
mara
vista
drive
and
jockvale
road,
whereas
the
short
100
meter,
distance
between
mckenna,
casey
drive,
intersection
with
stranded
drive
and
the
railway
crossing
presents
traffic
safety
concerns
during
construction
and
the
closing
the
closure
of
mckenna
kc
drive
is
required,
whereas
stranded
drive
will
be
constructed
on
a
bridge
structure
crossing
over
the
railway
crossing
and
mechanic.
I
416
connecting
moody
drive
to
the
barhaven
community
with
traffic
volumes
increasing
annually
and
the
closure
of
mechanic
casey
drive
would
require
a
detour
adding
a
5.3
kilometers
travel
distance
and
7
to
10
minutes
travel
time
through
a
series
of
seven
signalized
intersections
from
moody
drive
at
follow
field
to
stranded
drive
at
car
dealership
way,
whereas
the
widening
of
stranded
drive
needs
to
mitigate
the
closure
of
mechanic.
Kc
drive
by
completing
an
amendment
to
the
strand,
heard
drive
environmental
assessment
study
to
identify
a
realignment
of
mechanic.
I
Casey
drive
if
we
get
the
clerk
to
move
this
guy
up.
Oh
my
goodness,
whereas
funding
for
the
amendment
to
the
environmental
assessment
study
and
for
the
design
is
available
in
the
stranded
drive
widening
construction
project,
whereas
the
planned
development
is
occurring
bordering
mechanic,
casey
drive
and
strantor
drive
and
there
is
an
opportunity
to
realign
the
mechanic,
casey
drive
and
integrated
as
part
of
a
planned
development
and
whereas
the
transportation
master
plan
identifies
mechanicase
drive.
I
East
of
the
416
is
a
major
collector
realigned
to
connect
to
strand
her
drive,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
the
transportation
committee,
direct
transportation
services
department
and
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development
staff
to
complete
an
addendum
to
the
stranded
drive
widening
environmental
assessment
to
study
the
mechanic.
Kc
realignment,
as
well
as
complete
preliminary
and
detailed
design
using
the
existing
stranded,
drive
widening
construction
budget.
A
Where's
brad,
so
that's
just
a
notice
of
motion
and
thank
you
for
doing
that
for
for
chair
harder,
actually
so
we're
at
the
fun
point
of
the
meeting
where
there's
a
no
other
business
and
adjournment
is
that
kerry.
Thank
you
for
a
very
successful
meeting
today,
everybody.
I
will
see
you
again
on
october,
7th.