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A
A
A
Item
number
two
is
gateway,
speed,
limit
signage
from
residential
areas,
and
we
have
a
speaker
on
that.
So
we'll
hold
that
a.m.
as
well,
and
we
also
have
a
presentation,
a
brief
presentation
from
staff
Kelso
leaper
who's.
Also
here
today,
but
not
a
member
of
the
committee,
has
asked
that
item
number
three
be
taken
off
this
agenda
and
add
it
to
the
next
agenda,
because
there
are
certain
people
they
want
to
come
to
speak
to
that
matter
than
unavailable
to
be
there
to
be
here
today,
and
it
is
a
councilors
item.
A
Item
number
four
is
another
councilors
item
cancer
copies,
so
we'll
want
to
speak
to
that
will
hold
that
one
and
so
before
we
get
into
the
full
agenda.
The
issue
of
photo
Raiders
come
up
in
the
media
over
the
last
couple
of
days
week,
so
I've
asked
Chris
blinken.
He
is
acting
on
behalf
of
Phil
Andy,
just
to
come
up
to
the
front
either.
A
very
brief
verbal
up
is
where
the
city
is
on
photo
later,
and
so,
if
you
could
do
that,
Chris.
A
C
C
It
is
restricted
within
school
zones
and
community
safety
zones
staff
to
have
participation
from
participating
with
other
municipalities
with
the
province,
legal
representation,
technical
representation.
As
we
work
towards
rolling
this
out,
the
working
groups
are
currently
committed
to
trying
to
roll
out
the
program
in
2019.
That's
the
goal.
C
The
city
has
been
collecting
speed
data
in
all
of
our
school
zones
to
assist
with
a
data
collection
project
standing
from
the
working
groups
that
have
been
going
put
together.
We've
completed
seventy-two
of
370
schools
and
will
continue
data
collection
in
September
and
hopes
to
have
it
completed
before
the
winter
of
2018.
C
At
this
time,
it's
still
sort
of
unclear
as
to
what
automated
speed
enforcement
deployments
will
look
like
whether
it
will
be
trailer
versus
vehicle
mounted
or
both
I've,
seen
some
in
other
jurisdictions
that
do
both
or
permanent
units
in
the
field.
So
this
is
being
looked
at
within
the
context
or
various
working
groups,
and
so
that
kind
of
summarizes
very
high-level
as
to
where
we
stand
right
now
so
working
with
the
province
working
with
our
other
partners
to
get
this
rolling
for
next
year.
So.
A
A
D
Well,
thank
you
for
the
repair
to
appreciate
it
and
recommend
some
questions
in
my
mind,
doesn't
come
nicely
around
how
you
determined
that
the
path,
failure,
wood
building
for
pavement
markings
and
an
appreciate
they
do
recognize.
We
have
a
problem
and
it's
a
problem
that
needs
to
be
addressed
in
the
city.
D
But
in
the
report
you
suggested
purchasing
a
second
vehicle
which
sounds
like
a
good
idea
to
me,
but
also
you
suggested,
focusing
on
arterial
roadways
only
doing
stroking
involves
twice
annually,
but
you
also
did
moves
that
other
municipalities
are
different
products
that
might
be
better
and
I
know
that
some
municipalities
are
taking
a
different
approach.
It's
just
actually
code
in
there.
Essentially,
and
embedding
it
so
I'm
sending
how
you
came
to
a
decision
of
what
we
would
recommend
to
the
2019
budget.
A
Generally
speaking
in
the
industry,
as
you've
mentioned
to
other
municipalities,
other
government
agencies
that
these
are
having
troubles
with
the
paint
products,
it's
an
old
way
of
doing
things
and
with
the
change
in
paint
that
was
imposed
on
us
that
paint
formulations.
There
is
amazed
honesty,
the
federal
government,
the
new
paints
just
aren't
lasting
as
long
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we're
seeing
I
dare
say
in
our
consultation.
A
So
there
may
be
some
savings
down
the
line
in
terms
of
you
know:
I
don't
have
to
go
back
and
pay
that
load
every
single
year,
maybe
paint
it
once
and
then
wait
two
years
before
I
get
back
and
paint
it
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
get
there
I
think
we're
going
to
be
in
a
place
where
look
at
how,
even
though
the
markings
that
provide
a
better
productivity
by
day,
it
will
last
more
through
the
winter,
but
you're
still
going
to
have
to
paint
it
every
year.
Okay,.
D
A
D
D
I
mean
I
would
like
to
do
is
direct
you
between
we
get
into
the
2019
budget
process
to
do
a
cost-benefit
analysis
above
the
options
and
the
costs
and
the
benefits
so
that
we
could
see
you
know
laid
out
before
us
before
we
make
a
decision
on
where
we're
going
to
go
on
a
budget,
because
there
are
some
significant
budget
implications
here.
So
what
I
would
like
you
to
do
is
a
cost-benefit
analysis
to
give
us
a
sense
of
from
that
smorgasbord
of
options.
What
would
make
the
most
sense
going
forward?
D
A
Interesting
convenience
or
on
the
same
page,
because
what
I
was
going
to
do
X
have
to
do
was
along
those
lines.
But
in
addition,
you
just
talked
about
photo
radar
and,
while
that's
not
in
play
yet
it
in
2019,
so
I'd
like
to
direct
staff
to
go
back
and
when
we
pass
photogate.
Oh,
we
talked
about
those
funds
being
used
for
traffic
calming
and
great
safety
initiatives.
So
I'd
like
to
be
at
staff
too.
D
A
Mr.
charity,
the
castle
is
a
good
point,
will
work
with
operational
staff
to
include
that
as
part
of
the
submission
for
budget
purposes,
Thank
You
mr.
Coker,
as
we
say,
the
the
direction
was
based
on
the
discussions
that
we
had
at
the
time
they
passed
that
we
said
we're
going
to
use
those
funds
for
Road
Safety
in
the
economy
or
traffic
calming.
Rather
so
that's
where
that
direction
comes
from
so
I'm
hoping
the
answer.
That
will
continue
to
be
yes,
mr.
clerk,
but
we
will
wait
to
answer
your
answer
to
that.
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair
now,
I'll
begin
where
here
I'm,
not
privy
to
whether
they're
legal
parameters
and
I
think
they're
important,
because
we're
all
interested
in
line
painting
we're
all
interested
in
additional
safety
in
our
school
zone
near
parks.
We
have
a
small
traffic
calming
budget
like
can
you
get
maybe
a
briefing
notice?
What's
the
extent
of
the
funds
from
photo
radars
and
how
we
can
use
them,
because
I
know
that
that's
been
a
conversation
around
this,
this
committee
table
related
to
some
of
our
traffic
calming
funds
and
other
funds
example
pH
sales.
E
We
have
some.
We
all
have
seminar
where
that
are
in
the
queue
as
we
I
guess.
I've
wondered.
We
said
that
one
a
year,
so
is
it
possible
to
ask
the
clerk
to
get
the
briefing
on
to
whether
there
are
parameters
around
for
the
radar
so
that
we
actually
can
include
it
holistically
in
terms
of
funds?
I
think.
F
A
F
E
E
F
E
Thank
you
on
the
item
of
the
paint.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
the
team
because
I
know
councillor
Dean's
is
highlighting
I've
gone
on
the
ground
with
the
team.
I've
done
a
video
blog
in
the
past
you're
working
overnight
in
they
do
it
and
safety
as
the
first
and
foremost
as
to
the
work
they
do.
Even
at
night
it
can
be
challenging
environments
to
do
the
work.
So
I
took
my
hat
off
to
to
yourself
and
acquis
out
there.
You
know
doing
the
work.
I
think
from
a
committee
perspective.
A
A
E
The
wines
are
gone
after
the
snows
melted
and
then
there's
the
period
where
you
have
to
do
the
sweeping
you
have
to
wait
till
all
everything
is
melted
and
everything
is,
you
know,
ready
to
go
before
your
team
goes
out.
I
get
that,
but
that
period
is
very
stressful
for
our
main
streets
for
arterioles
and
so
on,
where
the
visibility
of
you
know
what
corridor
and
it
might
act
as
a
traffic
calming,
but
certainly
in
that
context
of
safety
should
should
Prime
so
I'm
concerned
about
a
cause.
A
The
cherry
the
greatest
amount
of
it
where
occurs
t-900
period,
so
you
can
edit
them
into
a
lot
of
lines
that
are
in
less
than
ideal
shape.
If
you
move
too
mocking
you
may
get
much
better
performance
in
those
markets,
they'd
be
a
much
better
shape
when
you
come
out
of
infantry
and
they
should
last
in
an
acceptable
condition
until
we
can
get
to
be
striking
them
that
year,
did
you
say
you
know
we
had
our
oil-based
paints
prior
to
2012,
the
elastic
better
they
perform
better,
and
so
he
came
out
of
the
winter
season.
A
E
The
more
durable
paint
that
had
another
name
of
that
product
that
is
more
expensive
that
it
you
you
seem
to
agree
that
it
would
cover,
would
it
be
improved
and
improved
condition
over
that
period.
Yes,
it's.
My
final
question.
Mr.
chair
relates
to
the
second
truck,
so
I
guess
you're,
alluding
in
the
memo
and
the
brief
thing
in
the
inquiry
response
that
you
will
be
putting
forward
a
budget
pressure
coming
to
the
2019
budget
relating
to
additional
equipment.
E
C
Through
the
cherry,
yes,
we
have
a
truck
scheduled
for
delivery.
Actually,
this
September
that
will
eventually
replace
the
existing
vehicle,
which
is
13
years
old,
so
and
then
supplementing
that
with
a
second
vehicle
as
part
of
our
future
budget,
pressure
would
definitely
put
us
in
a
stronger
position
to.
G
G
He
did
not
see
the
stop
bar
and
yet
also
didn't
see
the
stop
sign
or
the
stop
sign,
50
meters
ahead
marking.
So
the
point
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is
that
perhaps
the
distinction
would
be
more
identifying
where
there
is
significant,
wear
and
tear
as
opposed
to
is
it
arterial
and
is
a
residue
in
a
residential
Road,
because
we
may
find
their
arterial
locations
where
the
lines
are
holding
up
quite
well,
but
residential
or
in
other
words,
where
they're,
not
so
I.
G
Think
I
would
like
some
kind
of
commentary
where
you
come
back
with
on
the
ability
to
identify
pavement
markings
of
that
are
wearing
away
quite
quickly
and
not
be
tied
to
this
ideas.
Is
it
arterial
or,
as
I've
already
said,
I
think
we
may
lose
some
important
safety
needs
and
opportunities
if
we
do
that?
So
quite
quite
clearly,
we've
all
seen
anecdotally,
as
opposed
to
scientifically
that
this
switch
to
the
new
paint
isn't
working
in
terms
of
the
expectations,
our
own
expectations
as
counselors
and
our
constituents.
G
The
stop
sign,
that's
right
out
in
front
of
my
window:
I
love
it
when
they
come
and
paint
the
lines,
but
I
don't
like
it
in
when
my
bedroom
is
full
of
EOC
paint
fumes,
which
is
how
it
used
to
be.
We
had
to
jump
up
and
close
all
the
windows
in
the
house,
and
that,
of
course,
has
impacts
the
atmosphere,
ozone
layer
as
well,
so
it
comes
from
the
right
place.
G
A
Think
pretty
much
council
Wilkinson
on
the
list,
but
just
a
quick
question
of
hope
when,
when
the
federal
government
made
the
change
to
the
regulations,
is
that
tied
in
any
way
to
any
financial
assistance
to
cities
to
adjust
to
the
need
to
either
paint
more
by
different
and
more
expensive
supplies
to
do
the
job
with
different
equipment?
Was
there
any
transitional
money
in
any
aid
to
help
these
adjust
to
the
new
program
through
the
Cho
about
music,
okay,
Thank,
You,
counselor,
all
consent.
B
But
this
is
what
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
have
to
take
into
account
for
an
aging
population.
As
I
already
know,
your
eyesight
isn't
as
good
as
you
get
older,
and
those
white
lines,
especially
on
the
side
of
the
road,
are
crucial.
I
think
that
it's
really
important
of
wintertime.
It
gets
too
dangerous
for
the
drivers
and
I've
heard
this
for
many
and
I've
noticed
that
myself
as
well
so
I
just
want
whatever
you're
coming
up
with
they
don't
they're
going
to
have
to
budget
an
act
to
provide
for
it.
B
I
think
that
some
people
are
council,
colleagues
as
well,
not
only
because
of
the
gender
safety
there,
but
because
we
have
a
rapidly
aging
population.
Many
of
them
can
drive
quite
a
long
time
now.
Just
have
to
take
that
drive
intestine,
even
though
Mars
is
as
good
as
Miss
B,
it
still
not
to
drive
and
and
is
very
important
for
ensuring
safety
and
that
a
district.
If
you
get
one
that
lasts
over
the
winter,
there
would
be
so
much
desired
and
it
was
nothing
that
we
all
I
know
every
spring.
B
C
Thank
You
mr.
Sharon
I
do
agree
with
counselor
Turner
shrink
about
the
residential
smaller
streets,
where
it
can
be
a
little
more
dangerous,
whereas
what
the
arterioles
are
the
bigger
roads,
you'll
see
other
signs
that
would
bring
you
to
a
halt
or
is
in
the
residential,
sometimes
trees
or
other
things
can
be
a
bit
misleading.
My
question
is
with
regards
to
you
know
the
timelines
from
when
I
see
you
have
a
lot
of
numbers,
a
lot
of
information
here
with
regards
to
getting
back
to
those
service
requests.
C
A
And
three
teacher
that
varies
a
bit
depending
on
the
engagement
depending
on
how
to
prioritize
the
map
application.
So
if
we
find
that
the
markings
in
a
particular
area,
70%
1a
or
ties
that
location,
the
markings
are
only
30%
one,
we
asked
you
to
an
average
and
exalt
number
I
know.
So
it's
probably
a
six
to
eight
week,
mage
the.
C
Other
thing
that
I've
also
encountered
because
I
have
a
lot
of
new
development
in
my
areas
you
know
and
whether
it's
Riverside's
health
or
Leitrim
is
a
lot
of
the
time
we
see
these
new
subdivisions
built
and
then
the
markings
aren't
there.
You
know
there's
obviously
construction,
and
until
that
construction
is
completed,
the
Lots
are
developed
and
it's
handed
back
to
the
city.
Nobody
really
wants
to.
We
don't
take
ownership
about
so
in
some
instances
we
ought
to
do
that
who's
overseeing
that
process,
where
that's
still
under
development.
C
A
Through
charity
and
we
get
work,
orders
and
development
services
indicating
what
by
Odin
subdivisions
and
respond
to
those
as
soon
as
the
subdivisions
already
so
typically
in
a
set
division.
Epic
base
course
by
felton
and
the
responsibility
for
any
MA
this
case,
blessed
with
the
developer,
when
the
final
and
kibosh
bolt
goes
in,
then
it
becomes
our
responsibility.
To
conclusion,
the
other
thing
I
would
note:
is
that
not
every
stops
on
location
in
a
new
subdivision
automatically
attract
buyers
so.
A
A
You
I
don't
hear
any
more
questions
on
this
item,
so
the
next
item
on
inquiries
that
was
asked
to
be
ripped.
It
was
parking
cycle
spaces.
We
need
to
take
a
vote
on
that
two-thirds
in
favor,
so
I'm
going
to
ask.
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
ask
the
vice
chair
to
introduce
the
substitute
motion
in
this
matter.
A
H
H
Use
of
usable
parking
lots
at
key
locations,
if
not
accompanied
by
an
appropriate
policy
framework
and
control
measures.
Whereas
sufficient
time
is
required
to
confirm
the
feasibility
of
the
concept
reviews
a
baby
on
a
citywide
basis.
Develop
the
program
framework
and
controls
and
consult
with
the
public
is
appropriate
on
the
zoning
changes
required
to
accommodate
a
change
in
parking
restrictions,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
with
the
transportation
committee
recommend,
cancel
direct
staff
of
the
transportation
services
department
and
recreation,
cultural
and
facility
services
to
undertake
an
area
of
the
park
and
bike
concept
and
report
back.
A
Thank
you
very
much
from
deduce
that
I
have
a
quick
question
for
the
clerk.
Mr.
Clerk,
we
have
lifted
the
inquiry
and
we
had
the
substitute
motion,
which
was
a
place
of
motion
where
that
motion
is
on
the
agenda
and
the
from
counsel
I'm.
Just
wondering
do
we
deal
with
this
all
in
one
piece
or
the
people
speak
to
be
inquiring
and
then
do
it.
The
motion
to
add
to
the
mix
just
to
make
a
little
bit
more
confusing.
We
do
have
a
perfect
delegation.
A
A
A
I
My
name
is
Garrett
and
sniff
I'm,
currently
a
resident
of
Canada
North,
longtime
resident
of
Crystal
Beach
Britannia
area,
so
I'm
familiar
with
the
park
student
question,
I
was
asked
by
councillor
Wilkinson
to
speak
to
the
Transportation
Committee
regarding
the
park
inside
the
motion
under
consideration.
I
first
contacted
the
counselor
after
even
Patrick
Pierce's
letter,
the
citizen
earlier
this
summer,
which
outlined
an
apparent
crackdown
by
the
city
when
a
number
of
cars
were
ticketed
in
Western
parks
when
I
called
the
City
of
Ottawa
to
have
the
parking
regulations
where
the
city
parks
clarified.
I
I
was
surprised
to
have
confirmed
that,
indeed,
the
parking
lots
at
city
parks
are
only
to
be
used
by
those
that
plan
to
utilize
the
park.
The
moment
when
I
asked
whether
by
sequester
News
the
toilet
facilities
in
the
park,
we
fill
water
bottles
at
fountains
in
the
park
and
then
traveled
to
work.
A
recreation
on
pathways
that
run
through
several
contiguous
parks
would
fit
this
category
I
was
informed
that
would
not
the
bylaw
requires
users
to
remain
in
the
park.
I
I've
lived
and
worked
in
Ottawa
since
1980
and
long
been
a
supporter
of
cycling
in
the
park.
I
parked
my
car
at
andrew
hidden
park
to
treat
to
work
near
holland,
avenue
and
then
Broadview
avenue
for
over
30
years.
When
I
arrived
at
the
parking
lot
between
7:00
and
7:30
a.m.
there
is
always
plenty
of
parking
when
I
returned
between
4:00
and
4:30
p.m.
I
there's
still
plenty
of
parking
since
retiring
five
years
ago,
and
moving
to
Canada
I
park
at
the
Nepean
sailing
club
and
Ruby
Park
of
the
trailer
park
in
the
mid
morning
find
plenty
of
spots
available,
bicycle
for
a
few
hours
and
returned
in
the
mid
to
late
afternoon
to
nearly
empty
lot.
I
recently
taken
photos
that
can
attest
to
this.
I
In
my
experience
of
these
parking
lots,
there's
a
slight
traffic
increase,
use
the
water
park
mid-morning
to
mid-afternoon
and
during
special
events,
but
the
usual
situation
is
that
there
is
plenty
of
parking
to
go
around
throughout
the
day.
Community
traffic
clears
out
of
the
Lots
between
4:00
and
5:00
p.m.
leaving
plenty
of
room
for
the
evening
users
of
the
park
to
find
parking
spots.
I
understand
that
the
current
motion
has
set
aside
10
parking
spots
for
cyclists,
I'm,
not
yet
sure
how
this
motion
will
look
when
it
rolls
out,
but
I
do
hope.
I
That
committee
look
these
concerns
of
cyclists
as
their
main
focus
number
one.
These
parking
spots
are
necessary
because
we
arrive
at
the
pathways
from
all
over
the
region
in
order
to
work
or
enjoy
recreation
in
Ottawa.
This
has
the
advantage
of
reducing
vehicle
traffic
in
the
downtown
core
number.
Two.
Many
of
us
would
like
to
access
the
pathways
officially
and
safely,
while
avoiding
roadways
where
it
is
common
to
see
speeds
of
80
kilometers
an
hour
or
pavement
and
bike
lanes
that
end
without
warning
number.
I
Three
regulations
that
require
users
to
remain
in
the
parking
lot
for
a
limited
period
of
time
should
be
eliminated.
Number
four
cyclists
should
be
able
to
park
and
bicycle
to
other
areas
of
the
city
along
the
pathways,
rather
than
remain
in
the
park.
Number
five
put
in
place
supports
for
all
cyclists
and
commuters
in
the
region,
as
well
as
those
that
live
closer
to
the
core
number
six
continue
a
programme
of
improvements
to
the
network.
Please
number
seven
develop
an
education
component
to
reduce
the
negative
interactions
between
drivers
and
cyclists.
I
The
base
of
the
paths
in
Ottawa
are
a
world-class
treasure
by
the
city's
new.
Only
that
updates
of
wait
as
the
city
builds
on
its
reputation
is
a
strong
cycling
advocate.
We
need
to
ensure
that
policies
reflect
the
needs
of
the
users
of
this
infrastructure
and
that
access
and
safety
the
named
utmost
in
the
minds
of
policymakers.
B
Disrespected
or
he
F
mister
you've
been
doing
this
for
thirty
years,
I
think
I
heard
you
say:
have
you
ever
had
a
ticket
for
doing
this?
I've
never
had
a
ticket
for
doing
this,
so
this
has
been
I,
don't
know
what
happens
with
when
you
have
a
long
term
use
analyst
private
property,
sometimes
affinities
for
a
long
time.
B
I've
actually
have
known
in
some
cases
where
over
30
years
of
that
happening
at
land
was
actually
transferred
one
over
to
another
by
it
doesn't
quite
a
proper
to
public
appearances.
The
problem
l
am
so.
This
is
something
that
is
members
that
we've
never
seen
a
problem
of
packing
their
because
you've
used
the
past.
Never.
I
And
I
use
those
parking
lots
at
different
times.
During
the
day,
there
has
never
been
an
issue
of
em
Parkin
unless
there's
a
special
event
going
on
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
so
there's
a
bad
community
picnic
that
sort
of
thing
does
that
happen
very
often
during
the
week,
not
that
I
have
noticed
in
the
five
years
since
I've
been
retired.
No.
A
And
I
believe
he
did
you
just
these.
The
clerk
and
city
sister
sorry
I
couldn't
see
over
who
sheds
I
wish
ads
had
sorry.
So
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions,
mr.
O'connor's,
so
building
on
the
response
you
just
gave
to
tell
so
they'll
consume
just
so
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
so
to
implement
parking
bike
parking
at
the
city
parking
at
City,
Park
Watts.
We
require
zoning
changes
at
depth.
That's
correct!
Mr.
chair
went
back
in
that
checkered.
G
A
E
You
mr.
chair
I'd
like
to
begin
first
and
foremost
by
thanking
our
Dean
on
council
man
Wilkinson
to
bring
forward
the
the
item
here.
I.
You
know
too
often
to
be
here
of
a
generation
gap
in
terms
of
octave
tragedies.
I
think
that
diana
has
been
you
know,
leave
in
forcing
the
city
in
terms
of
innovation
and
in
terms
of
those
discussions.
Oh
man,
thanks
for
the
minister
to
me
on
the
for
community
today.
E
I'm
of
the
mindset
that
we
do
have
to
have
a
full
force
review
of
this
issue.
We
want
to
facilitate
access
to
cycling
for
those
who
can
and
want
to
I'm
of
the
mindset
that
city
lots
that
the
schools
that
private
lots
could
all
be
part
of
a
solution
and
I
would
love
for
us
to
to
do
a
public
call
out
through
public
public
information
to
engage
with
those
who
own
surface
thoughts
outside
of
the
pew
is
to
see
if
there
are
additional
capacity.
E
E
chair
give
direction
that
as
part
of
this
discussion
today,
that
we
asked
staff
to
come
back
with
an
engagement
strategy
to
engage
our
school
boards
to
engage
and
your
own
real
estate
review
in
terms
of
our
parking,
lots
and
private
lots
to
do
what
I'll
call
a
a
park
and
ride
a
park
and
ride.
Roger
Bacon
I
think
that
reduces
congestion.
I
think
that
facilitates
the
access
to
baking
and
I
was
I
was
speaking
to
you,
the
general
manager
of
abstract
culture
and
leisure
Bennett
I.
E
Don't
have
the
exact
wording
anymore,
but
the
I
do
support
my
Ann's
point
around
the
ten
spots
for
today.
I
would
do
it
as
a
in
my
mine
as
a
pilot
for
us
to
just
you.
We
have
a
request
today.
Let's
do
it
as
a
pilot,
let's
put
a
review
and
let's
do
a
fulsome
review
of
that
of
those
opportunities.
I
do
see
the
risk.
E
The
risk
is
that
we
have
special
events
hosted
in
our
parks
that
don't
have
a
weekly
reoccurrence
or
daily
reoccurrence
that
we
might
not
then
be
able
to
access,
which
is
counter
to
our
goals
of
offering
parks,
leisure
in
that
access.
So
I
do
think
that
there's
a
hybrid
of
three,
which
is,
let's
do
a
foursome
review.
E
Let's
create
this
as
a
form
of
a
pilot
food
for
10
spots
for
a
given
window
of
time
and
let's
engage
folks
at
Parks
and
Rec
and
culture
for
the
bigger
conversation,
because
I
wouldn't
want
to
limit
access
to
a
parks
which
would
be
counter
to
those
green
space
and
those
these
are
investments.
So
that's
that's
how
I
feel
about
it
and
certainly
will
would
love
to
to
engage
with
community
members
on
it.
A
Thank
for
that
I
believe.
The
wording
of
the
motion
is
broad
enough
to
take
in
that
direction.
It.
It
simply
speaks
to
a
review.
The
parking
bike
concept
and
report
output
finding
as
a
recommendation,
certain
mr.
Chen
David,
what's
been
suggested
by
cancer
play
in
that
regard,
works
I,
hear
for
the
date,
but
I
certainly
do
have
concerns
about
partitioning
810
random
spots
without
any
kind
of
havoc
Constitution,
without
any
kind
of
with
you
hearing
some
legal
counsel
that
in
fact,
we
need
a
zoning
change
to
do
that.
A
A
An
interesting
idea
want
to
put
some
resources
into
figuring
that
how
it's
going
to
work
and
if
they
came
back
to
this
on
the
timelines
just
which
is
Q
on
the
clean
19,
a
more
inclusive
email
thought
8h
to
everything,
from
licensing
to
choosing
to
be
gets
to
park
and
where
they
get
to
park
a
number
that's
circumstances
and
everything
else.
As
well
as
doing
the
new
zoning
issue,
we
could
likely
have
a
more
fulsome
processor
pirate
in
place
for
the
spring
of
2019,
so
I
may
have
more
to
say
on
it
later.
G
Thank
you
very
much.
I,
certainly
like
what
I'm
hearing
from
everyone
I
believe
there
is
a
there's,
a
compromise
as
a
way
forward
that
is
going
to
work.
Hoffman
said
in
bureaucracies.
The
best
way
to
kill
a
good
idea
is
to
acknowledge
it's
a
good
idea
and
go
out
and
study
it
more.
But
in
this
case,
I
think
we
do
have
to
study
it
more
than
unnecessarily
use
that
as
an
impediment
to
start
piloting.
G
I
would
do
that
as
part
of
my
commute
on
a
daily
basis,
and
should
we
have
10
15
20
parking
spots
in
our
parks.
Being
used
on
a
daily
basis
as
part
of
people's
commute
and
being
occupied
for
the
entire
day,
I
think
that's
very
different
than
someone
who
comes
parks.
There
goes
for
2,
3,
4,
even
5
hour
bike
ride
a
couple
of
times
a
week
and
and
all
of
the
issues
have
been
come
with
this
being
a
regular
use.
The
Cheras
mentioned
some
of
those
you
know
who
gets
them.
G
G
You
know
all
of
those
always
what-ifs
that
we
do
want
to
think
through
in
order
to
to
do
this
right,
but
in
the
end,
where
do
we
want
to
get
to
as
a
city
a
place
where
more
people
would
cycle
as
part
of
their
daily
activity?
Doing
it
more
often,
because
we've
had
to
make
it
easier
for
them
and
perhaps
cheaper
as
well?
Is
there
a
solution
in
there
that
meets
all
those
needs,
I
hope
so,
possibly
some
compromises
in
some
areas,
but
I
like
likely.
G
This
notion
is
going
and
if
it
is
compatible
to
do
a
pilot,
I
didn't
catch
where
I
was
for
this
year
or
or
the
beginning
of
next
year
to
see
how
these
problems
really
arising
or
they
imagined
I.
Imagine
it
will
be
dependent
in
there'll,
be
case
by
case
locations.
I
think
we
can
find
a
way
to
come
to
making
this
work.
Thank
you,
Thank,.
H
But,
as
you
know,
some
of
my
colleagues
pointed
out
there
is.
We
do
have
to
give
some
consideration
to
the
use
of
those
parking
spots
today
and
my
understanding
is
that
a
pilot,
even
if
we
decided
today,
let's
go
ahead
with
a
pilot
for
10
spots.
That
would
require
a
zoning
change.
Is
that
correct?
And
we
can't
do
that
here-
that
would
need
to
go
to
planning
and
then
to
counsel
after
that.
So
no,
if
I,
you
know
just
kind
of
thinking
it
through
its
these.
H
A
Believe
that's
correct.
I
say
that
for
the
most
part,
we're
talking
about
pathways
that
would
end
be
open
by
certainly
by
December
and
given
the
time
for
a
zoning
change
for
the
public
consultation
to
take
place.
You'd
probably
be
looking
at
you
know,
certainly
probably
lower
than
they
took
fall
before
we
were
even
at
that
point
of
getting
it
on
to
Council,
so
I
think
staffs
preference
would
be
that
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
it
would
be
as
a
spring
pilot,
okay,
well.
H
H
You
know
certainly
is
important
thing
that
we
do
have
to
look
at
a
lot
of
different
many
different
options.
We've
got
some
of
my
colleagues
were
just
saying:
seeing
a
school
parking
lots
or
empty
with
God,
some
of
the
parking
lots
are
NCC
parking,
lots
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
just
we're
not
just
going
to
be
looking
at
the
one
parking
lot.
So
I
think
that
this
can
be
done.
I
think
it'd
be
done
very
low
cost.
H
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair
just
going
back
on
that
the
business
of
the
uses
of
cetera
they
please
to
be.
Is
it
mr.
Lehri
still
here,
yeah
I
believe
said:
I
know
that
squatter's
rights
exist
because
I've
seen
it
used
and
it
was
a
thirty
year
to
admit
they
use
it
for
30
years
and
they
got
land
and
I
had
I
know
a
place
where
that
actually
was
used
to
get
some
land.
So
as
far
as
waste
not
applied
parks.
I
Mr.
chair
squatters
writer,
a
different
principle
that
relate
to
ownership
of
the
property.
They
don't
relate
to
the
use
of
a
property,
and
so
that
question
would
be
separate
from
the
zoning
vitiate.
Zoning
and
zoning
is
tied
to
the
use
of
the
property.
So
if
someone
is
conducting
a
use,
that's
not
permitted
under
the
zoning
of
the
property,
it's
still
contrary
to
the
zoning
bylaw
I've.
B
Known
it
not
to
use
their
rights,
because
an
England,
for
example,
where
this
comes
from,
there
are
many
many
pathways
to
go
across
private
property
that
their
right
to
use
them
is
on
whether
it's
called
squatted
ledges.
Something
is
because
the
long
term
use
they
don't
actually
get
changed
the
ownership
of
the
land.
That
is
a
usage.
So
that's,
is
that
not
the
case
in
Canada
as
well.
I
It
is
the
case
with
respect
to
easements
and
certain
property
rights
that
and
that
used
to
be
at
least
in
Ontario,
when
there
was
a
transfer
of
the
land
title
system
from
the
previous
registry
system
into
its
current
system.
The
ability
to
acquire
those
rights
was
essentially
eliminated
for
only
properties
going
forward.
So
it's
also
a
little
bit
different
than
what
we're
talking
about
here,
which
is
a
publicly
owned
property
that
the
public
has
access
to,
and
so
it's
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
is
is
the
right
of
access.
B
sho-me,
but
they
are
not
asking
about
a
bill
and
ticket
them
against
that.
That
means
I
also
know
there
haven't
been
any
tickets.
Since
then
I
know
people
are
still
going
there,
they're
trying
the
other
part
that
you
suggested.
It
was
some
difficulty
too,
because
it's
a
little
bit
further
in
the
apartment,
congestion
to
get
there
and
so
I'm,
hoping
that
PBA's
just
generally
use
it.
This
fall
because
once
winter
comes,
they
tend
not
to
anyway,
and
we
when
it's
a
bigot
important
stay
in
during
your
study.
They
have
no
objection
to
it.
B
I
wanted
this
to
be
a
pilot
and
then
to
go
on
to
do
exactly
that.
This
motion
is
saying
to
take
a
look
at
where
we
do
these
by
the
point
of
view
of
people
going
on
safe
in
the
parks
obviously
have
to
near
cycling.
These
ones
happen
to
be
on
a
very
major
site
birds,
so
they
the
park
didn't
park
there,
the.
Secondly,
it's
right
there
and
tips
await
downtown
or
to
West
or
to
a
lot
of
different
places.
Not
not
everybody
works
downtown
and
vice
versa.
B
Somebody
working
in
town
and
happened
to
have
a
car
and
trying
to
get
to
work
in
Kanata,
but
that
easier
to
go
there
and
take
their
bike
and
bike
to
Connecticut
time
to
get
to
Canada.
Now
the
taffeta
we're
so
bad,
but
stay
tuned
and
twenty
to
thirty
minutes
just
within
Canada
to
get
there
so
the
bugs
go
around
there.
B
So
I
think
it
can
work
when
both
directions
it
not
just
for
coming
in,
but
also
for
going
out
so
people
think
the
airport
or
various
other
places
I
think
it's
a
healthy
way
of
trying
to
say
we
have
a
very
strange
city
in
a
way
because
we
have
it
been
built.
I,
don't
know
any
other
city
in
the
world
today
that
has
a
green
belt.
That
is
actually
the
tire
area
as
cut
off
their
green
strips
and
things
like
that,
but
not
an
entire
one.
That
makes
the
distances
much
longer.
B
It
requires
development
because
the
inside
of
being
dealt
was
on
for
500,000
people
who
are
almost
millionaire
to
right
side
and
the
girls
to
zapping
there
I
don't
know
if
you
realize
it,
but
the
twenty
six
point.
Three
percent
of
all
new
people
in
2017
moved
into
Kanata
Statesville,
that's
more
than
a
quarter
of
the
population
of
both
the
vaadwaur
and
that's
causing
a
lot
of
congestion
in
various
things,
and
people
wouldn't
like
to
per
cycle.
So
the
more
we
can
do
to
improve
it.
B
But
as
we're
going
out,
those
people
are
furthering
with
25
30
35
kilometers
from
downtown
some
off
the
long
way
to
go.
If
you
can
get
that
down
to
15
to
20
from
the
patria
15
venice,
a
reason
to
commute.
So
I
think
this
is
something
that
is
what
to
me
as
a
problem
that
some
of
the
community
are
having,
and
my
job
partly
answered.
Yours
is
when
people
have
a
concern
in
the
problem.
If
it
can
handle
it,
then
we
should-
and
this
is
wrong.
We
have
a
lot
of
parking,
lots
and
I.
B
B
B
A
A
B
B
Up
a
little
bit,
I
think
one
of
the
things
is
that
it's
we
jump
it
before
with
black
divides
within
Council
category.
Did
it
with
the
parking
light?
We
have
a
committee
entire
place.
You
can
make
changes
to
ensure
that
that
you
have
an
infrastructure.
That's
used
the
more
than
one
purpose,
and
it's
really
important
to
get
that
done.
It's
not
something
that
they
should
be
holding
up
and
I'm.
B
Glad
that
the
committee
and
its
people
are
saying
here
today
is
that
they
want
to
try
to
make
sure
it
can
work
and
that
we
can
deal
with
it
in
a
longer
and
then
you're
concerned
about
the
zoning
note.
If
they
have
to
wait.
Till
report
comes
back
into
one
and
then
you
go
to
do
zoning
so
names
don't
happen
in
60
days.
They
take
a
lot
longer
and
I'm
wondering
with
the
staff
that
it's
possible
to
add
somewhere
along
the
preliminary
work
of
this.
B
Before
it's
been
finished,
it's
that
far
open
to
it
that
we
could
work
on
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment.
That
would
not
just
say
that
the
primary
use
of
park
lands
are,
but
that
we
could
give
some
ability
to
be
flexible
and
saying
that
the
subsidy,
that
tax
start
staff
can,
under
this
changing
policy
derivative
while
other
uses
to
go
there,
so
that
we
don't
end
up
what's
happening
now
to
go
in
the
spring
because
of
his
own
inside.
Only
fact,
with
talking,
the
staff
are
offline.
A
I
would
think
that
the
mr.
Chanin
Ali
A's
with
his
his
counterpart
in
planning
and
find
a
way
to
to
minimize
the
impact
to
that.
Okay.
Thank
you,
councillor,
Karthik.
Thank
you
very
much
and
mr.
chair
and
I
too,
want
to
thank
council
Wilkinson
for
bringing
this
interesting
idea
to
the
table
for
discussion
and
them
know
in
terms
of
the
motion
that
council
vehicles
that
have
put
on
the
agenda
I
think
it's
a
local
emotion.
The
only
concern
I
have
is
the
fact
that
what
other
pitfalls
lie.
A
So
there
are
other
pitfalls
in
terms
of
when
we
do
things
like
this
and
whether
we're
very
careful
so
I.
Like
the
idea
of
the
committee
motion
to
go
back
and
review
the
issue
and
look
at
all
of
the
other
uses
that
possibly
could
prop
up
because
of
the
bicycle
issue
and
I'm,
ok
with
the
bicycle,
and
will
it
support
it?
A
The
only
concern
I
have
you
have
to
look
at
the
entire
picture
and
the
entire
picture-
and
this
particular
motion
is
not
there
until
the
liquid
do
actually
do
your
study,
and
that
is
some
time
biggest
downfall
is
counselors.
We
proportion
the
material
which
I've
done
also
where
we
haven't
done
a
full
work
on
it
or
we
haven't
allowed
the
staff
to
go
back
and
look
at
all
of
the
implications
and
the
implication
I
just
mentioned
just
a
small
one,
but
it
was
affecting
part
usage
during
the
summer
months
for
soccer
and
stuff.
A
During
the
day
when
people
were
partnered
to
took
the
bus
closer
to
home
Pepa
scenario,
anyways
I'll
leave
it
with
the
committee,
but
I
will
be
supporting
the
committee
motion
being
that
today.
Thank
you,
mr.
mayor.
Thank
you
a
councillor.
Any
other
councillors
wish
to
speak
to
the
matter.
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
the
vice
chairs
motion:
I,
don't
disagree
with
with
council
Wilkinson.
The
law
can
be
a
pain
sometimes
and
that
it's
part
of
the
reason
they
don't
practice
anymore
and
but
I
think.
A
We've
heard
very
clearly
from
firmly,
though,
that
that
we
do
require
some
sort
of
a
variance
in
the
existing
zoning
as
happy
here
that
the
mr.
Chang
has
prepared
to
these
a
with
his
counterpart
in
there
planning
to
make
that
as
painless
and
as
quick
as
possible.
Should
we
decide
to
go
with
the
pilot
and
sir
I?
B
Let's
say
that
motion
I,
don't
think
that
motion
actually
means
the
other
motion
is
not
in
place.
The
original
motion
was
only
for
it
wasn't.
It
was
actually
considered
having
a
study
done.
It
was.
It
was
exactly
what
counselor
said
say
you
don't
go
in
and
do
it
all
at
once
we
try
things
out
that
they
were
saying
that
motion
by
taking
it
is
actually
taking
away
all
the
other
aspects
of
it.
Okay,.
B
A
A
Called
in
or
people
that
have
booked
the
park
and
I've
come
across
a
situation
where
there
was
an
issue,
but
we
don't
proactively
calling
by
law
to
to
to
monitor
parking
lots
that
they
do
I
know,
go
to
parks
and
do
some
monitoring
if
there
is,
as
part
of
their
daily
work
in
pretty
well
all
city
parks
with
large
parking
lots,
but
we're
not
going
out
of
our
way
to
call
them
in
specifically
for
them.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
A
C
Morning
again,
I
just
like
to
introduce
Scott
weird
was
the
traffic
assessment
specialists,
who
can
also
provide
some
support
on
the
report.
There's
questions
afterwards,
thank
you,
so
gateway
speed
limits,
signage
just
wanted
to
bring
committee
members
up
to
date
on
where
we
stand
with
this
initiative.
So
the
city's
been
working
with
the
province
for
the
past
nine
years
to
bring
forward
changes
to
the
highway
traffic
tact
that
would
allow
the
use
of
speed
limit
gateway,
signage
to
designate
speed
limits
within
neighborhoods.
C
C
Having
different
speed
limits
with
this
new
legislation,
Gateway
speed,
limit
signage
signs
are
only
required
at
the
entry
and
exit
points
into
a
specific
area.
Significantly
reducing
the
number
of
signs
required
to
establish
a
consistent
speed
limit
in
the
area.
Implementing
speed,
be
speed.
Limits
on
an
area
level
provides
more
consistency
and
helps
better
under
drivers
better
to
understand
what
is
expected
of
them
when
entering
a
neighborhood.
C
So
how
do
we
designate
areas
and
a
staff
of
undertaking
the
preliminary
of
the
entire
road
network
to
determine
where
gateways
speed
limits
should
be
applied,
based
on
guidance
provided
in
the
speed
zoning
policy?
Eligible
roadways
generally
include
all
local
residential
roadways,
as
well
as
collector
roadways
that
are
currently
posted
at
40
km/h.
As
we
move
towards
implementation,
more
in-depth
review
will
be
completed
for
each
area
to
determine
if
there
are
any
opportunities
to
include
more
unposted,
collector
roadways
into
an
area
based
if
criteria
are
met,
to
have
a
40
kilometer
limit
on
the
road.
C
Here's
an
example
of
how
something
within
a
designated
area
would
look.
The
area
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
is
in
Sandy
Hill
defined
by
Chapel
range
of
land
streets.
In
this
example,
there
would
be
a
total
of
30
gateway,
speed,
limit
signs
which
would
be
introduced
on
the
periphery
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
versus
the
the
old
method,
which
would
have
required
125
signs
that
would
have
had
to
been
installed
on
individual
roadways
to
enforce
the
40
kilometer
per
hour.
Speed
limit.
So
it's
a
huge
reduction
in
the
number
of
science.
C
Implementation
in
2009,
when
a
city,
speed
zoning
policy
was
approved
$50,000
per
year,
was
allocated
within
the
science
maintenance
budget
to
implement
speed
limit
changes.
The
proposed
implementation
plan
for
the
new
gateway
signage
project
would
be
to
implement
one
area
per
ward
between
now
and
the
end
of
2019
up
to
a
$50,000
per
year.
Cap
consultation
with
ward
councillors
would
be
undertaken
to
establish
priorities.
C
The
total
cost
of
implementing
Gateway
signage
is
estimated
approximately
one
point:
five,
eight
million
dollars
in
all
designated
areas
citywide
at
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
year.
That
would
take
us
approximately
thirty
years
to
accomplish.
Staff,
however,
are
currently
exploring
funding
options
to
accelerate
implementation.
I.
A
Think
very
much
press
and
I
hope
so
that
there
is
time
that's
morning,
one
of
those
funding
options
we're
going
to
look
at
is
potentially
accessing
the
funds
for
the
quarter
program
we
do
have
before
we
go
to
counselors.
We
do
have
one
speaker
tammy
wedge
to
speak
to
the
matter.
So
if
you
can
come
forward,
please.
I
Good
morning,
thank
you,
okay
and
members
of
Transportation
Committee
for
allowing
you
to
speak
to
item
two
Gateway's
speaking.
It's
an
emerging
residentes
today,
I'm
here
as
a
resident
of
ælis
ward.
Having
worked
at
the
in
this
ward
office,
I've
been
involved
with
motions
to
have
speeds
reduced
on
the
streets
in
the
area
such
as
Orleans
Boulevard
in
their
book,
Road
residents
have
brought
forward
petitions
to
the
counselor's
office
after
having
to
canvass
their
Street
in
obtain
the
necessary
66%
of
residential
support,
the
owners
and
ensuring
safe
speed
limits
should
not
be
placed
with
residents.
I
This
is
why
I
fully
support
the
gateways
speeding
exchange
in
residential
areas,
for
example,
one
area
on
the
ward
area,
whether
the
state's
there's
several
inconsistencies
between
England
in
the
community
and
the
North
Area
broadly,
the
states
called
blog
linkage.
There
are
40
perimeter
per
IRC
posted
throughout
the
subdivision,
the
class
divided
in
the
south
side
of
Barbara
States.
There
is
no
signage
at
all
which
by
default
means
the
speed
owners.
I
Local
residential
waves
is
50
kilometers
too
fast
for
for
a
new
community,
I
would
like
to
see
all
streets
in
the
graveling
States
community
posted
at
40
km
square
Gateway
signage
would
be
ideal
for
communities
such
as
this
drivers
would
be
eloquent
in
treatment.
What
was
expected
of
them
as
Steven
report
as
a
ranking
reward,
would
benefit
from
Gateway
spirits
by
the
end
of
2018.
I
want
to
ensure
that
such
as
Bradley
estates
are
prioritized
a
discrepancy
between
developing
many
developed
in
existing
communities.
I
A
H
Welcome
this,
this
report
I
think
that
council
reaper
demonstrated
best
how
the
process
wasn't
working
and
took
over
a
thousand
volunteer
hours
of
folks
getting
petition
signs
are
studying
a
sign
just
to
get
the
traffic
speed
slow
it
on
on
one
street
in
that
ward,
so
I
do
and
I
I
do
welcome
this,
and
that
for
for
myself,
I
am
always
looking
for
thirty
kilometer
speak
on
that.
So
I
think
that
two
things
have
to
happen.
One
is
we
have
to
design
our
roadways
so
that
traffic
doesn't
travel
too
fast.
H
We
saw
that
happen
here
at
this
committee.
Through
this
term,
we
went
down
a
slippery
slope
and
couldn't
stop
nowhere.
Lowering
speed
limits
where
you
know
at
least
a
for
telling
us
the
speeds
not
going
to
get
lowered.
People
are
not
going
to
drive
slower
on
big
wide
roadways
and
that's
there
that
that
is
the
case.
So
we
have
to
ensure
that
we're
designing
our
roadways
for
for
lower
speeds,
but
also
when
we
in
the
downtown
in
the
world
present
many
of
these
streets.
H
Residential
streets
are
narrow
streets
there
now
and
then
some
of
the
newer
ones
and
40
kilometers
an
hour
is
still
too
fast.
If
you're
going
down
a
black,
where
you
know
there's
any
way,
people
are
walking,
people
are
cycling,
people
are
living,
I
can
tell
you
that
on
a
downtown
residential
street,
forty
kilometers
is
is
too
fast.
It's
too
fast
to
stop
on
time
to
hit
a
child.
H
The
difference,
as
you
increase
speeds
to
your
risk
of
death
or
injury,
is,
is
exponential,
so
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
get
the
areas
in
war
that
are
sir
to
come
to
our
Gateway
area.
So
I'm,
just
and
I've
read
the
report
a
few
times
and
I.
You
know,
but
I
mean
I'm
geared
more
towards
40
kilometers.
So
what
is
the
criteria
that
that
the
if
I'm
the
council
after
the
next
election
and
you
get
a
gateway
speed
of
30
kilometers?
What
does
that
criteria?
C
Through
the
chair,
so
the
city
currently
does
have
a
30
kilometer
per
hour.
Speed
limit
policy
and
I
would
suggest
that
requests
for
that
be
made
through
staff
to
review
that
specific
Street
through
that
lens,
like
you,
like
you
mentioned
once
you
set
on
some
facilities,
will
speed
in
its
artificially
low.
Perhaps
if
they're,
not
in
in
formation
with
with
the
street
itself,
they
would
for
the
rollover
width
of
the
lanes,
the
volume
of
traffic.
H
But
that's
the
case
for
40
commerce
as
well
so
I'm.
Just
as
my
question
is
how
much
more
owners
will
it
that
this
policy
to
put
in
place
a
30-kilometer
gateway
as
opposed
to
a
40
calmer
gateway,
where
the
wants,
where
there's
a
reasonable
expectation
that
cars
will
travel
that
speed?
Because
the
roads
are
that
narrow
or
the
residential
Road
ways
we
can
use
traffic
calming
and
other
low-cost
calming
traffic
calming
measures.
C
Because
right
now,
the
way
the
gate
gateway
to
ended
policies
set
up
is
purely
before
for
our
zones
that
we
could
look
at
individual
streets
within
those
40
kilometer
per
hour
pockets.
And
we
do
the
Monday.
The
30
kilometer
per
hour,
separate
speed,
limit
policy
that
the
city
has
established
and
view
them
through
the
evidence.
But.
H
That
doesn't
make
it
any
easier.
Today,
I've
been
asking
for
that.
Actually
for
two
years
I'm,
not
many
many
times.
I've
said
where
were
the
streets
in
my
word,
that
war
and
30
kilometers
and
I've
never
got
met
so
I'm
going
to
be
back
here
and
so
lucky
another
two
years
asking
for
the
same
thing.
So
this
this
report
is
not
giving
me
and
the
residents
that
I
represent.
We
asked
for
30
kilometers
all
the
time.
H
F
Mr.
chair,
if
I
understand
the
question
that
guy's
not
played
back
is,
can
you
take
the
policy
and
make
a
30k
default
in
a
neighborhood?
Should
the
councillor
decide
that?
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct!
Yes!
So
my
plenty
of
you
is
that's
not
where
the
space
were
in,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
LIGO
and
have
that
discussion.
I
want
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
What
we
can
reset
the
default,
the
234
neighborhoods
I,
don't
believe
you
can,
but
I
want
to
double-check
that
okay.
F
Is
certainly
as
chair
I'll
do
two
things:
I'll
get
the
answer
to
that
and
then,
if
we
can't
because
of
the
legislative
change,
what
would
be
a
recommendation?
Should
a
councillor
want
to
do
that
and
there's
enough
to
be
a
policy
discussion
which
accumulate,
wants
to
do
that
so
I'll
set
the
wheels
in
motion
to
give
you,
though,
that
information
back.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
H
And
then
that
will
we'll
have
that
for
Council
and
can
make
some
decisions
that
council
render
and
just
then
two
other
things.
One
is
when
you
talk
about
a
small
pocket
for
30
kilometers,
so
I
want
to
just
make
sure
that
that
we're
responding
to
that
as
well,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
restricted
by
space
either.
So
if
you
know
a
40
kilometer
gateway
is
you
know,
4
watts
by
4
blocks,
I,
don't
want
a
30
kilometer
gateway
to
be
one
block
by
one
block.
F
Again,
I
want
to
play
back
so
it
there.
I
will
give
you
the.
Can
you
do
it
by
area
a
subset
of
that
area?
And
if
you
cannot,
what
would
be
our
recommendation
going
for
like?
Do
we
default
back
to
petition,
or
do
you
want
to
have
a
policy
discussion
on
that,
but
it
starts
with
that.
We
permitted
to
do
that
for
a
street
or
multiple
streets,
and
then
subsets
of
that
so
I'll
give
you
all
those
scenarios.
Okay,.
H
H
F
So
I
think
back
to
my
early,
you
know
when
you
bring
the
budget
guideline
report
and
again
I
will
share
all
this
with
the
treasurer
that
others
have
asked.
What
can
we
put
in
that
envelope
and
so
forth?
So
we
will
share
that
with
the
treasurer
and
bring
that
back
to
August,
whether
or
not
those
deviations
for
that
our
Union
staff
direction
to
to
give
us
to
bring
back
deviation
when
we
metal
court.
H
Okay,
because
I
mean
the
traffic
coming
budget
has
to
come
back
anyway.
The
next
term
of
counsel
and
I
can
get
there.
You
know,
there's
already
been
some
discussion
about
you
know,
should
you
be
able
to
use
it
for
other
measures
that
are
not
so
temporary
like
speed
humps,
if
we
know
that
they
work
in
a
certain
area,
should
we
be
able
to
finance
out
through
that
that
separate
office
budget?
So
this
would
be
something
else.
I
would
look
at
I
Accord
to
be
a
response
back.
Thank
you,
I
think.
A
H
C
Through
the
chair,
it
depend
on
the
size
of
the
the
pocket,
because
the
fundamental
is
only
fifty
thousand
per
year
and
we're
trying
to
get
as
many
locations
as
we
can
over
to
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
it
depends
on
a
park
in
and
we'll
work
with
each
counselor
to
discuss
the
size
of
the
pocket
that
they'll
be
able
to
implement
with
our
gateway,
signage.
F
A
E
Think
you
don't
so
my
question
is
really
related
to
funding,
so
I
know
you've
done
some
analysis.
I
think
the
example
you
give
them
in
the
court
is
sandy
hill.
We've
done
pocket
analysis,
we
will
put
stuff
and
the
community
for
some
time
now
on
that
we
were
food
I
which
out
how
traffic
Act
changes
and
the
guidelines
that
were
quite
delayed
at
yes
over
a
year
reading
on
those,
but
now
there'll,
be
an
expectation.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
understand.
So,
what's
the
best
way
to
proceed,
is
it
the
2019
budget?
E
Is
it
staff
that
will
highlight
which
zones
of
the
city
are
prioritized
in
terms
of
those
those
gateway
panels?
How
do
we
go
about
identifying
next
steps
and
priorities
because
now
we're
piloting,
but
we
need
to
get
to
an
implementation
phase
and
I
know
that
that
be
pressure
from
all
communities
to
see
these
implemented
sooner.
F
As
I
think,
the
starting
point
is
assessing
how
many
counselors
want
these
pockets
of
any
fund.
You
need
to
collect
that
data
systems
comprends
for
bregman
staff
or
visit
age
counselor,
to
see
if
there's
a
request,
inability
mental
assess
how
I
would
go
with
50,000
and
then,
if
there's
a
gap.
Obviously
that's
probably
an
external
council
budget
discussion
and.
E
From
a
community
standpoint,
you're
asking
the
communities
to
work
directly
with
their
counselors
on
this,
like
what's
the
best
site,
I
could
just
see
a
lot
of
interest.
I
mean
our
media
is
here
they're
going
to
cover
it
and
then
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
create
a
void
that
we're.
How
do
you
go
from
an
approval
at
committee
and
council
to
identifying
priorities
are
recognizing
that
funding
will
be
the
they're,
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
issue,
but
procedurally
you're
asking
communities
to
work
with
their
counselors
and
the
counselors
to
raise
to
mr.
F
F
B
To
help
okay,
one
is,
if
you
get
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
each
ward
today,
there's
a
do
more
than
one
area
within
the
fifty
thousand
years.
I
have
a
lot
of
areas
where
there's
only
a
few
roads
that
go
in,
so
you
don't
get
as
many
signs.
Like
example,
you
did
a
lot.
I
have
one
area
liver
through
science
and.
C
B
And
they
agree
with
concert,
McKenna
benefited
your
save
our
traffic
calming
I,
think
I've
got
enough
signs
and
it
will
pitted
what
the
speed
limit
is,
and
things
not
ask
me
forever.
There's
some
a
few
things
we
can
do
about
many.
It's
really
very
difficult
that
way,
and
these
are
things
that
we
believe
highly
disabled.
One
of
the
things
I
have
Maz
Kanata
was
always
40.
B
So
in
many
areas
I
was
already
40
and
then
10
the
new
ones
that
started
adding
two
communities:
apartment,
40
and
Part
B
50,
because
if
having
words
that
change
that
we
had
to
be
worried
about
one
of
those
change
back
so
there
it
is
a
little
bit
complicated
in
places,
but
they
relied
a
lot
of
kanata
because
that's
terrain,
the
10-million,
a
lot
of
connect
cost
connecting
streets.
So
it's
not
as
many
signs
required
and
the
other
one
is
new
development
I've
about
two
subdivisions
underway.
B
Now
we
put
a
clause
in
there
about
getting
traffic
calming
signs,
whether
it's
or
gives
a
talk.
This
is
to
shore
subdivision.
Together
there
are
only
two
roads,
I
think.
Maybe
three
went
went
to
connecting
out
of
it,
so
it
to
get
that
in
it.
Can
we
make
the
developer
put
these
in,
as
everybody
was
new
community
so
that
the
suit
doesn't
have
that
passed
initially.
C
Through
through
the
development
pros,
as
they,
they
actually
fun
new
signage
in
their
communities
once
they've
built-
and
you
get
final
acceptance,
so
they
flip
the
bill
finance.
So
we
will
need
to
charge
the
developer
about
twenty
new
signage,
so
any
new
subdivision,
that's
built,
will
automatically
get
gateway
signage.
So.
B
C
C
D
C
If
their
local
roads,
they
are,
they
are
designed
with
smaller
cross-section
in
more
frequent
driveways,
as
well
as
parking
both
on
both
sides,
which
helps
to
reduce
the
speed
of
traffic
parking,
is
and
utilize.
The
speeds
T
tend
to
go
up,
but
they
are
under
that
consideration
when
they
being
developed.
So.
D
C
Through
the
show,
we
are
trying
to
approaches
with
a
consistent
message
that
all
local
roads
and
collectives
operating
in
for
we'll
have
that
for
decor,
now
speed
limit
we
get
which
gives
police
more
than
effective
tool
to
enforce
speed
limits
and
local
roads
and
collectivities,
as
well
as
drivers
expectations
when
they
enter
new
communities.
So.
D
C
C
I
would
change
the
speed
limit
on
all
of
our
on
posted
arterial
roadways
and
quarter
major
core
areas
as
well.
This
is
a
guideline
seller
suggested
through
the
province.
We
worked
on
a
steering
committee
with
the
pollens
to
develop
this
policy.
This
was
what
all
municipalities
and
most
municipalities
wanted
to
go.
It
was
creating
day
with
Sun
River
plumbers.
C
D
I'm
just
interested
in
how
you're
going
to
define
neighborhoods
so
think
of
some
of
the
neighborhoods
in
my
ward
and
the
vast
difference,
and
some
of
them
might
be
much
larger
than
others.
So
you
said
that
her
dancing
preliminary
work
could
I
see
how
you
have
defined
the
neighborhoods
in
my
world.
Perhaps
between
now
and
council,.
C
Absolutely
we
do
have
maps
for
a
reward
that
we've
created,
which
show
the
pockets
there
are
over
1500
pockets
that
we
can
sign
with
gateway
signage.
Some
neighborhoods
are
very
large
and
some
are
smaller,
one
Street,
for
example,
but
yeah.
We
do
have
that
information
that
we
can
provide
to
you
and
counselors.
Okay.
D
It
seem
to
assume
to
have
some
weight
on
what
the
word
counselor
said,
and
the
process
that
we
use
right
now
puts
the
onus
on
the
community
to
make
a
decision
about
that,
and
it
seems,
like
you've,
moved
away
from
community
consultation
around
signage
and
speed
limits
on
to
put
the
onus
on
the
councilor
and
then,
of
course,
the
council
can
do
consultation
if
they
choose,
but
maybe
they
won't,
and
it
may
to
me.
It
just
sounds
like
we're
taking
taking
else.
D
A
D
Just
being
quiet
today,
I
guess
I,
just
I
don't
want
to
take
the
onus
in
the
community
and
just
give
it
to
the
cancer
I
thought
there
has
to
be
a
process
that
allows
the
community
to
weigh
in,
and
you
know,
to
a
certain
extent,
I
think
there
is
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
difference
when
it
comes
to
the
suburbs
versus
maybe
the
core
of
the
city-
and
you
know,
is
thirty.
That
reason
will
do
for
the
downtown
core.
D
F
F
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
our
check
in
with
you
to
get
your
first
reaction
as
to
you
know,
if
we
define
these
communities
in
the
right
format
and
so
forth,
the
end
of
the
day
staff
need
to
give
you
the
professional
advice
in
terms
of
those
limits
and
so
forth,
and
then,
if
there's
some
some
consultation
that
you
want
to
do
with
your
community
and
what
that
you
want
we'd
be
happy
to
support
you,
be
there
with
you
and
and
do
that,
I
think
I!
Think
when
you
look
at
it
globally.
F
A
lot
of
it
will
be
very
obvious
and
straightforward,
but
there
are
distinctions
to
each
war
in
each
neighborhood
in
subsets
of
those
neighborhoods
that
we
need
to
reflect
them.
It's
not
one
size
fits
all
and
I
think
you
know
if
you're
going
to
want
to
consult
elated
at
your
time
on.
This
absolutely
will
support
you.
Staffer
with
each
counselor
and
the
you
need
distinct
communities.
The
the
loggia
I
came
from
mr.
holiday
part
of
Naga
nation,
where
we
posted
40k
for
exactly
the
reason.
F
That's
after
talking
about
and
speaks
to
your
point
of
it,
of
course,
ability
and
so
forth
and
they're
very
unique
situations
where
good
neighborhoods
were
easy
to
to
sign
versus.
You
know:
Qualicum
words
where
it's
amazed
and
you
get
in.
You
can't
get
out
no
clear
entry
and
exit
to
that
community
support
so
I
understand
exactly
what
you're
talking
about.
I've
lived,
those
those
signage
issues
and
I
think
Safa
done
a
great
job
of
the
first
cut.
We
consult
with
you.
F
D
C
We
didn't
really
define
it
by
bye-bye
pockets,
so
a
pocket
is
created
based
on
the
bounding
boundary,
roads,
collectors
being
the
cutting
point
of
that
and
we're
signing
all
of
the
locals
that
are
bound
by
by
collector
pockets.
So
if
your
collector
on
the
north,
east,
west
and
south,
then
all
of
the
local
roads
within
that
area
would
be
joined
as
a
pocket
and
that's
not
necessarily
a
full
neighborhood.
It
was
just
be
a
pocket
within
that
within
that
neighborhood,
so
it
all
depends.
C
D
G
I'm
wondering
if
it
take
an
example
of
the
greed
where
there
has
been
a
long-standing
program
in
a
sense,
is
almost
a
decade
ahead
of
some
parts
of
the
city
where
there
has
been
movement
towards
40
kilometers
owns.
That
was
something
that
was
approved
by
council,
I,
believe
well
over
a
decade
ago,
but
because
of
the
cost
of
putting
in
the
signage,
it's
been,
you
know
about
a
few
streets
at
a
time.
G
Is
that
something
where
you
might
have
a
neighborhood
like
that?
That
is
part
way
through
this,
where
you
in
a
sense,
treat
that
as
a
priority
as
opposed
to
others,
I'm
not
looking
for
staff
to
give
me
the
defense
for
how
I
say
no
to
those
communities
that
don't
go
first,
but
rather
in
some
sense
of
why
one
may
have
been
at
first
and
certainly
chronologically,
that
a
community
has
already
been
going
down
this
road
and
is
in
a
sense
being
assessed
already.
G
That's
something
that's
going
to
factor
in
and
I
guess
part
of
that
is
going
to
be.
But
what
do
they
do
with
the
40
kilometer
signs
that
are
already
in
on
a
number
of
streets?
Is
that
something
else
when
we
say
we
would
say
well
they're
there
it
actually
costs
less
to
leave
them
there
than
to
send
the
workers
out
to
go
get
them.
G
F
Counselor
to
the
first
part,
I
generated
saying,
is
I
think
that's
the
discussion
that
we
want
to
have
with
you
in
terms
your
ward
and
we'll
bring
all
that
information
as
to
whether
existing
40k
zones
and
the
signs
are
and
so
forth.
On
the
tape
and
out
versus
leave,
the
men
will
look
at
them
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
In
some
cases
we
could
reuse
the
signs
of
it's
cheaper
to
relocate
them,
we'll
leave
the
men
will
do
whatever's,
common-sense
movement
available.
Okay,
answer.
C
Those
that
have
already
completed
the
petition
process
to
get
forty
kilometers
now
we
haven't
been
implementing
and
we're
trying
to
to
slow
that
process
down
right
now,
because
we
know
that
gateway
signage
is
potentially
coming.
At
this
point
we
have
put
in
signs
based
on
petition
process
as
of
last
month.
We
are
still
taking
inquiries
for
them.
It's
to
go
back
to
the
last
point
as
well
be
the
signs
that
are
left
in
that
are
within
communities
that
would
no
longer
be
required.
C
We
are
leaning
towards
removing
those
signs
entirely
because
it
could
speak
to
somebody
traveling
on
that
road
and
turning
off
onto
a
road
that
doesn't
have
a
forty
comet
in
our
Sun
and
go
back
to
the
default
50
kilometers
and
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
by
only
signing
the
roads
on
the
perimeter
of
each
zones.
So
we
are
in
discussion
with,
with
with
our
staff,
to
come
up
with
the
posters
for
them,
and
we
using
the
signs,
is
ultimately
yet
alright.
G
Well,
thank
you.
I
know.
We
will
all
have
plenty
of
questions,
isn't
the
actual
implementation
I
suspect
this
is
going
to
be,
as
they
say
over
subscribed
and
our
challenge
will
be
to
walk
through
a
sensible,
logical
process
for
our
communities
so
that
those
that
don't
come
first
are
we
assured
that
they
are
coming
and
coming
in
a
timely
fashion,
even
if
they
were
very
first
to
to
be
signed
in
this
way?
Thank
you,
I
think.
A
A
Thank
you
all
cheering.
Just
coming
back
to
this
item
of
the
new
40
kilometers
an
hour,
speed
limit
I
want
to
go
back
to
what
councillor
Dean's
was
raising
in
terms
of
a
public
consultation
card
component
and
I.
Think
I
heard
at
the
start
of
the
report
does
the
fact
that
tab
in
really
communities
and
new
neighborhoods
there
would
be
an
automatic
forty
kilometres
an
hour.
So
what
would
happen
to
that
public
consultation
that
those
neighbors
that
may
or
may
not
have
already
moved
into
the
new
community?
C
New
developments
are
automatically
getting
40
kilometres
an
hour
already
as
part
of
a
speed
Zone
in
policy
passed
in
2009.
So
this
would
be
an
amendment
to
that
policy
and
they
would
already
get
signs
regardless
of
being
consulted
and
on
it
would
automatically
go
240
kilometres
an
hour
without
public
consultation.
So.
A
You,
the
city,
do
any
kind
of
studies
or
surveys
on
the
fact
that
there
are
a
number
of
streets
that
already
have
40
kilometres
an
hour.
Speed
limit.
Smart
related
collectors
are
middle
hood
streets
as
to
the
compliance
rate
on
those
streets.
Currently
is
it
you
know,
50%
of
there
is,
as
drivers
are
all
being
that
forty
callers
60%
to.
C
The
chair,
it
does
vary
from
street
to
street
characteristics
of
the
road
dictate
how
fast
people
will
drive.
We
do
have
extensive
data
on
a
lot
of
our
streets
and
we
continue
to
collect
data
on
and
through
the
temporary
traffic
calming
project
as
well.
We
collect
a
lot
of
data
on
all
the
locals
and
it
varies.
C
I
can't
speak
specifically
on
what
each
Street
would
be
or
an
average
of
it,
but
we
do
see
fairly
low
compliance
with
with
roads
that
are
put
so
that
that
don't
meet
the
characteristics
of
the
roadway
and
are
posted
artificially
lower.
In
terms
of
this
policy
with
play
with
a
consistent,
40
kilometer
an
hour
across
each
neighborhood,
we're
hoping
that
the
compliance
will
increase,
we
haven't
obviously
done
data
collection,
but
that
is
part
of
our
again,
for
it
is
to
collect
data
pre
and
post-implementation.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
because
my
concern
is
that
you
put
any
sign
on
the
road
that
you
like
$40
$50,
this
C
or
you
know
the
obligation
of
the
driver
to
follow
that
speed,
limit
and
I
understand
that
mr.
Mahoney
mentioned
earlier
that
the
police
had
a
better
tool
to
enforce
that
still,
if
they
current
signage,
that's
out
there
on
the
streets
that
is
posted
at
40
and
people
are
not
complying
with
that
are
retrieving
a
bigger
issue.
That
would
be
my
concern.
C
Now,
through
the
chair,
I
guess
it
could
be
that
there
is
an
inconsistency
in
the
way
we
post
speed,
limit
signs
right
now
that
some
local
roads
who
have
gone
through
the
petition
process
will
have
14
kilometers
now,
and
then
they
turn
off
that
relativism.
There's
no
signs
at
all.
It's
posted
at
50,
so
through
this
method
of
having
a
consistent
approach
for
communities
and
pockets
where
they
would
be
posted
40
and
at
the
community
until
they
see
otherwise
we're
hoping
that
that
compliance
with
the
court
of
competent,
our
speedo
that
increases
thank.
A
You
thank
you,
mr.
chairman,
Thank,
You,
counselor
and
I
think
part
of
the
the
answer.
Your
question
is
said
earlier
as
well
that
it
there's
another
tool
in
the
toolbox
for
the
police
right.
If
it's
close
to
d14
you're
going
50,
then
you
know
the
corollary
to
that
is
we
need
to
get
the
police
out
there
more
often,
but
that's
that's
it.
That's
a
different
discussion
of
a
different
committee
but
I
think
to
staffs
point.
It
does
does
put
another
tool
in
the
toolbox
in
terms
of
enforcement.
A
council
Minette
take
a
mr.
A
A
F
F
I
believe
you're
correct
councilor.
The
thirty
question
is
a
separate
issue
which
would
have
committed
to
is
I'm
going
to
talk
to
legal
to
get
their
interpretation
was
approved
by
the
province
as
to
whether
or
not
the
question
from
councillor
McKenney
was
you
can
come
back
with
what
we
asked
come
back
with
a
40k
designated
by
blocks.
The
question
she
asked
is:
can
I
take
that
and
make
the
default
speed
30k
either
within
that
entire
block
or
a
subset
of
that
block.
F
I
need
legal
to
walk
me
through
that
process
to
say:
are
we
permitted
and
then
what
I
committed
to
say
is
that
if
the
answer
is
no,
which
I
suspect
it
will
be
known,
is
we
will
probably
again
rewrite
back
to
the
default
of
go
ahead
and
petition
and
get
feedback
and
staff
always
provide
the
professional
advice
on
that?
So
to
your
point
about
you
know,
if
it
requests
is,
can
you
make
an
arterial,
Street
30
kilometres
an
hour
or
downtown
Ottawa,
and
you
tell
you
right
now
that
answers
going
to
be
known
well,.
A
That's
that's
what
I
was
getting
that
and
okay
thank
you.
You
may
be
science
and
then
don't
understand
why
we
actually
need
assignments,
assignments,
a
pony
column,
here's
an
idea
and
understand
what
you're
saying
that
you
could.
They
could
think
more.
There's
a
sign-in,
but
there's
no
sign
Merriman.
If,
if
we
add
the
Gateway
signs,
that's
a
great
person
to
date,
their
sons
say
that
this
area
is
forty
kilometers
now,
so
we
live
in
science
or
across
to
Minnesotans
and
I.
A
Guess
I'm
can
ask
you
how
many
science
women
are
presently
that
says:
40,
kilometers,
more
inaudible
and
factor
in
how
much
will
it
cost
to
have
been
removed
and
I?
Think
no
aunt
in
saying
useless
exercise
to
remove
them,
know
myself
personally,
I
think
new
designs
are
it
says
for
economies
it
doesn't
contradict
the
gateway
signs
and,
although
I
will
not
be
here
in
2019,
so
we'll
let
the
next
concern
from
the
position
in
it
as.
F
Chair
counselor,
my
advice
to
you
on
that
is:
let's
start
leave
that
with
staff
to
figure
now
I'll
tell
you
why
two
things.
The
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
give
someone
who's,
breaking
the
speed
limit,
illegal
out
to
say,
there's
Indian
inconsistency,
application
of
these
zones,
which
is
what
staff
just
reiterated
and
secondly,
on
the
costs
you're
literally
pulling
that
sign
out
with
with
just
one
of
a
crane
hoist
and
we're
going
to
reuse
them.
F
So
if
you're
into
recycling,
if
you're
too
low
in
cost
and
so
forth,
it
may
not
cost
significantly
more
so
we're
looking
at
it
holistically.
It's
not
just
the
monetary
thing
is
also
the
enforceability
thing.
We
don't
we
post
and
again
I'd
managed
an
area
where
for
TK's
were
it
was
the
opposite.
You
had
to
sign
every
street
and
I
saw
people
beat
speeding
tickets
because
we
had
missing
signs,
so
there's
truth
to
weathers.
There's
professional
opinion
in
that
regard,
yeah.
A
I
do
Josiah's
it's
a
long
enough
as
an
instrument,
a
consultation
that
the
police
department
to
find
out
if
there
is
actually
an
out
for
driver.
If
the
left
assigns
a
legend
that
when
the
interested
to
see
that
we
step
out
we're
not
so
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
Thank,
You,
counselor
and
just
a
quick
follow-up
question,
so
can
the
community
say
no
and
what
happens
if
they
do
say
no
I.
A
C
A
A
C
Thank
you,
my
questions
with
regards
to
the
obviously
the
new
provincial
governments
moving.
You
know,
fossa
purist
hundred
killing
a
lot
of
things
and
moving
in
certain
directions
and
I
know
a
lot
of
the
work
that's
happened
here.
I
mean
it's
been
going
on
for
many
years,
but
more
recently,
when
we
got
the
Perot
I,
think
Prime
Minister,
Bill
Duke
at
the
time
saw
it.
Do
we
have
any
indication
before
we
start
doing
all
this
work
that
there's
any
policy
changes
in
the
direction
of
whether
moving
it
regards
to
the
HTA?
C
This,
the
changes
to
the
higher
traffic
document
effect
May
of
this
year
to
allow
for
service
and
does
briefly
previously
stated
now.
We
are
working
with
the
province
on
a
working
group
for
law
enforcement,
which
may
have
some
other
impacts.
But
at
this
point
we
live
we're
not
privy
to
that
information.
Until
clearly,
legal
discussion
has
taken
place
to
kind
of
iron
out
any
details
of
what's
required
as
part
of
that
program
and
how
it
may
be
impacting
this
program.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
the
last
people
we
have
on
this
so
on
the
report
carried.
Thank.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
was
to
be
council
leapers
item,
but
we
abated
to
remove
that
at
his
request.
So
at
the
last
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
counselor,
copies,
dedicated
eastbound
left
turn
traffic
signal
at
the
intersection
of
hazel
being
raven
car
crowed
and
always
prepared
to
speak
to
it.
The
acquired
mystery
to
the
debate
on
it
now
telly,
okay
and
he
notices
a
motion
for
consideration
of
such
repeating
inquiries.