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From YouTube: Transportation Committee – October 5, 2016
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Transportation Committee meeting – October 5, 2016 – Audio Stream
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B
B
B
Okay,
we
would
have
to
if
that
is
everybody?
Okay
with
that
to
lift
it
so
cancel
14s
question
I'm
gonna,
ask
house
before
you
to
hang
on
to
that
question
for
one
second,
because
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
some
special
guests
that
we
have
with
us
in
the
audience.
This
morning,
so
I'd
like
to
welcome
Tong's
al-ansari
from
the
community
engagement
coordinator
city
fall
women
initiative.
B
She
is
working
with
the
making
voices
count
project
sponsored
by
Kaui
and
the
coalition
of
community
health
and
Resource
Center's
to
conduct
training
for
residents
to
help
them
more
on
how
the
city
and
city
budgets
work
the
Transportation
Committee
meeting
today.
So
welcome
and
I'd
ask
all
my
committee
members
to
be
on
their
best.
Behavior
I
think
there's
a
report
card,
they're
gonna
fill
that
at
the
end
and
so
welcome
and
you
can
come
anytime,
you
like
so
councillor
forty.
You
had
a
question
on
the
IPD.
Yes,.
C
Miss
Monsieur.
My
question
relates
to
the
so
we,
the
capital
cost
of
six
units,
we
don't
identify
the
unit
type
and
I
think
it's
very
hard
for
us
to
to
know,
but
I'm
more
focused
on
the
operational
costs.
It
says,
there's
an
operational
cost
for
those
six
vehicles,
163,000
that
seems
high
to
me,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
know
the
vehicle
type.
So
I
wonder
when
we
write
those
IP
DS.
C
D
C
E
C
B
Nope
no
Suzy,
who
also
deals
with
vehicles
but
but
different
report.
Okay,
so
we're
back
to
the
agenda
then,
and
so
the
first
item
is
the
2017
missable
vehicle
equipment
replacement
plan,
and
I
understand
the
council
Dean's
and
councilor
Florio
questions
so
over
to
you.
Counselor
jaden
counts
from
annette.
F
Staff
assured
council
at
that
time
that
this
did
not
pose
a
significant
risk
to
the
city's
investment
in
fleet
assets.
The
reports
this
report
out
150
city
plans
to
spend
25
million
dollars
in
2017
for
replacement
of
vehicles,
so
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
one
is
what
impacted
deferring
the
replacement
of
vehicles
in
2016
have
on
our
assets
and
our
maintenance
costs.
E
We
want
to
do
this
was
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
bring
in
a
third
party
to
do
a
really
a
tional,
our
entire
fleet
assets,
so
I'm
really
bringing
forward
the
night
PD
later
on
in
November.
That
speaks
to
the
details
of
what
that
actually
identified
in
terms
of
the
whole
mix
of
vehicles.
We
have
is
a
very
diverse
fleet,
so
the
short
answer
was:
it
was
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
call
it
to
make
a
stop
anyway.
Take
a
look
forward
for
the
next
five
to
ten
years
and
recast
everything
so.
E
E
B
If
I
can
help
counselor
Dean's,
perhaps
I
think
what
the
councilors
asking
is
is
the
fact
that
you
didn't
spend
the
money
this
year?
He
has
that
put
us
behind
the
eight-ball
force
of
twenty
five
million
dollars
that
you're
proposing
to
spend
in
2016
is
that
going
to
essentially
bring
us
even
to
where
we
should
be?
Thank.
F
D
With
the
request
question,
the
answer
is:
are
we
falling
behind?
The
answer
was
no
because
for
an
example
in
the
model
we
would
have
replaced
a
truck
at
seven
years,
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
kilometers
in
the
new
model
we're
going
to
go
to
eight
years,
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
kilometres,
so
you're
actually
yeah.
When
mr.
Janelle
said
we're
recasting
it
you're,
not
you're,
not
falling
behind,
because
you've
changed
what
you
said.
We're
changing
that
we
say
the
the
marker
is
as
to
when
we
replace
a
vehicle
so
have.
F
D
D
What's
the
impact
on
repair,
so
they've
come
back
with
what
they
think
is
an
optimal
replacement
schedule
that
has
an
impact
on
your
operating
on
the
long
run,
because
you're
going
to
invest
more
in
repairs,
but
it
saves
you
on
the
capital
side,
so
that
report
will
come
forward,
as
mr.
danaiah
said
as
part
of
the
budget,
with
an
IP
D,
so
you'll
understand
the
reductions
that
were
making
in
the
2017
budget
that
relate
to
fleet.
Why
we're
able
to
do?
Excuse
me
what
we're
doing
so.
C
My
question
is
specifically
I
always
come
back
to
this.
We're
buying
we're
buying
up
to
twenty
five
million
dollars
of
vehicles
and
I
recognize
some
are
very
specialized
and
we
only
have
limited
providers
I'm
more
focused
on,
for
example,
like
a
bylaw
car
or
public
org,
fiel
and
I
find
that
our
fleet
is
still
very
similar
to
fleets
that
you
would
have
found
in
the
90s
in
terms
of
vehicle.
You
do
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
of,
for
example,
civics
that
are
mainstream
cars
from
Honda.
C
Maybe
the
initial
cost
is
a
bit
higher,
but
there's
very
little
maintenance
costs.
So
we've
talked
about
about
this
in
the
past,
specifically
for
the
environment
and
the
green
fleet,
but
I
wonder
how
our
procurement
works,
and
how
do
we
do
the
analysis?
I,
don't
think
the
the
initial
purchase
price
should
be
the
only
catalyser,
because
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
operational
costs
in
certain
vehicles
that
are
initially
more
affordable.
E
So
to
answer
your
questions
as
short
as
I
can,
when
we
cast
lingo
to
purchase
another
set
of
vehicles
like
light
vehicles
like
the
bylaw
vehicles,
we
set
the
requirements
upfront
working
with
the
clients
and
we
try
to
glom
them
together.
So
once
we
know
we
want
to
buy
60
or
70
light
vehicles,
or
maybe
120
over
the
next
two
years,
we'll
put
out
one
contract,
so
we'll
get
one
type
of
vehicle
and
it's
not
just
the
lowest
bidder
they
do
have
to
meet.
E
Spec
and
spec
will
take
into
consideration
things
like
fuel
consumption,
but
once
you
meet
the
rest
of
the
spec
requirements,
yes,
it'll
be
the
lowest
bid
that
wins
the
contract
and
then
we'll
standardize
on
that
vehicle
for
that
grouping
of
60
to
120
for
them
for
that
purchase,
it'll
flow
through
time,
but
the
next
grouping
in
two
or
three
years
might
be
a
different
branch.
You
might
end
up
with
a
Civic
if
they're
the
overall
lowest
bidder,
but
you
could
end
up
with
something
else
like
a
Ford
and.
C
To
be
clear,
I'm
using
Civic
as
a
general
term,
not
because
I
think
we
should
buy
that
car,
but
certainly
it
is
a
vehicle
that
seems
to
to
be
mainstream
and
that
that
residents
would
use
maybe
just
to
dive.
In
a
bit
on
the
topic.
I've
seen
I've
seen
by
law,
cars
by
law,
trucks
use
Ford
escapes
to
fly
tires,
and
that
to
me
is
the
relationship
with
the
client
that
you're
describing
can
you
can
you
maybe
articulate
how
that
function?
C
E
So
what
happens
is
annually
we
go
through
the
replacement
process
in
fleet
and
identified
vehicles
that
are
due
to
be
replaced
through
a
combination
of
things
like
their.
How
much
they'd
be
use,
what
their
age
is,
if
they're
costing
us
a
lot
of
money
or
if
they've
been
grounded
for
whatever
reason,
then
we
actually
reach
out
to
the
clients
and
go.
You
know
what
you
do
to
have
this
ex
vehicle
replaced.
E
Otherwise
your
maintenance
cost
start
going
up.
That's
when
the
conversation
starts
and
that's
when
they
can
tell
us
things
like
you
know
what?
Maybe
we
have
a
different
need
today,
we're
going
to
move
away
from
that
or
we've
taken
on
different
work
and
we'll
also
challenge
them
in
terms
of
standardization.
So
perhaps
if
they
had
a
supervisor
with
a
an
SUV,
we'll
try
and
talk
to
them
to
move
into
a
1/4
turn
or
a
half
done
depending
on
what
they
do
with
it.
But
that's
how
that
conversation
goes
collectively.
E
G
You
mr.
chair
just
a
report
we're
looking
at
replacing
236,
which
is
10%
of
the
current
fleet
and
the
cost
of
25
million.
What
criteria
is
used
when
you
come
up
to
the
figure
of
236?
Is
it
basically
kilometre
eases
admission
or
use
of
the
condition
of
the
vehicles
that
were
replacing?
You
know?
What's
the
correct
major
criteria
that
you're
looking
at
it's.
E
All
of
those,
including
the
cost
of
ownership,
we
have
some
where
you
bought
a
bunch
of
graders,
but
one
of
the
greater
types
was
a
lemon
Frankie.
The
maintenance
costs
were
to
control,
so
it's
kilometres
and
usage
were
actually
lower
than
its
sister
or
brother
units,
but
we're
actually
moving
it
out
first,
because
it's
costing
us
a
fortune
in
maintenance.
So
but
it's
all
the
things
you
mentioned,
we
look
at
the
kilometers
traveled.
We
looked
at
the
usage
and
usage,
sometimes
as
hours.
B
H
During
that
two-year
period,
a
series
of
world
cafes
stakeholder
engagement
and
best
practice
reviews
were
undertaken
by
staff,
and
the
first
report
came
to
Transportation
Committee
and
later
to
City
Council
in
2011,
and
that
established
our
action
plan,
but
it
also
established
our
towards
zero
goal.
What's
interesting
to
note
is
the
City
of
Ottawa
is
one
of
the
early
adopters
of
a
toward
zero
approach
and,
in
fact,
towards
zero
is
now
the
goal
for
the
safety
stood
for
strategy
2025
in
2016.
H
One
of
the
other
particular
notes
is
my
position,
as
the
program
coordinator
was
seconded
over
to
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
and
I
report
out
of
the
office
of
the
deputy
chief
for
John
Skinner
and
I
work
very
very
closely
with
my
colleagues
in
the
traffic
escort
and
enforcement
unit,
so
just
to
give
an
idea
of
who
the
internal
partners
are.
The
the
membership
consists
of
out
of
a
fire
services.
The
other
paramedic
service
that
our
Police
Service,
Ottawa,
Public,
Health
and
the
general
manager
and
and
staff
are
from
the
transportation
services
department.
H
If
we're
gonna
highlight
some
of
our
initiatives
in
2015,
certainly
most
of
you
I
would
hope.
We've
heard
about
the
leave
the
phone
alone
campaign,
which
is
focused
on
the
challenges
that
were
currently
having
with
distracted
driving
I
mean
some
would
refer
to
it
as
an
epidemic
on
our
roads
we
launched
very
successfully
the
stay
safe,
stay
back
campaign
will
share
the
road
to
the
provincial
cycling
organization,
as
well
as
a
number
of
our
partners
in
the
heavy
trucking
industry.
We
launched
a
pilot
project
for
the
school
best.
H
Camera
and
I
was
putting
the
high-definition
camera
on
the
side
of
a
school
bus
to
catch
offenders
who
were
passing
when
the
stop
arm
was
open.
We
also
worked
very
very
closely
with
the
traffic
Injury
Research
Foundation,
who
are
based
here
locally
and
are
a
world-renowned
organization
focused
on
traffic
research,
and
we
launched
a
community
road
safety
campaign
toolkit.
H
Where
we
have
been
going
in
2016.
We
have
a
very
strong
focus
on
cyclo
safety.
We
were
the
first
municipality
in
all
of
Canada
to
use
a
1
liter
device,
which
was
created
by
a
group
of
engineers
in
Texas
that
actually
uses
sonar
like
technology
to
measure
the
distance
from
the
outside
left,
handlebar
of
the
bicycle
and
a
car
passing
and
we've
been
doing
a
series
of
education
initiatives
with
my
colleagues
in
the
Central
District,
Traffic,
Unit
and
educating
people
on
this.
H
To
date,
we've
also
had
requests
to
provide
information
to
the
city
of
Gatineau,
but
also
the
city
of
Montreal
is
looking
at
purchasing
similar
devices.
We
launched
the
bike
repair
station
initiative
with
with
our
partners,
Ottawa
Public
Health
and
that's
been
quite
a
success.
We
also
wanted
to
reach
out
to
the
cycling
community
at
the
time
of
purchase
and
identify
some
of
the
basic
requirements
under
the
Highway
Traffic
Act
that
cyclists
needed
to
have
and
I
can
show
you
a
descriptor
of
what
this
door
hanger
looks
like.
H
We
also
have
now
completed
putting
these
stay
safe,
stay
back,
decals
on
the
City
of
Artemis
fleet,
so
that
has
been
completed
so
the
heavy
trucks
as
part
of
our
own
internal
fleet
now
have
those
green
decals
on
them
and
to
our
knowledge.
We
are
the
first
municipality
in
Canada
to
adopt
that
as
a
component
and
play
our
role
into
promoting
Road
Safety.
H
We
also
launched
by
epic
maps
org,
which
is
a
partnership
with
the
traffic
Injury
Research
Foundation
and
the
public
health
agency
of
Canada,
and
that
is
an
initiative
that
focuses
on
getting
cyclists
to
fill
out
information
on
an
app
or
web-based
kind
of
scenario
that
about
that
ties
into
their
traveling
to
and
from
work
to
and
from
school
to
do
all
sorts
of
stuff.
But
essentially
for
us,
it
gives
us
a
relatively
real-time
understanding
of
where
their
near
misses
are
happening.
H
That
information
is
looked
at
by
staff
and
in
our
group
and
we're
looking
at
a
4-3
approach,
whether
it's
to
go
out
and
do
education
at
a
particular
location.
If
we're
seeing
clusters
of
similar
types
of
incidents
happening-
or
it
is
information
that
we
would
serve
up
to
our
colleagues
at
the
traffic
enforcement
unit
without
a
place
for
enforcement-
and
certainly
we
work
very
very
closely
with
Krista
and
her
colleagues,
if
any
modifications
seem
to
be
need
needed
to
be
made
from
an
engineering
perspective.
H
Again,
we
are
three
municipalities
in
all
of
Canada
to
be
working
on
this,
and
so
we
feel
quite
quite
fortunate
to
have
been
asked
to
get
involved
on.
Whatever
slide
is
the
bike?
Rodeos
we've
provided
enhanced
funding
to
you,
our
colleagues
in
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
their
bike
school
to
do
as
many
bike
rodeos
at
local
schools
as
possible
for
your
cost
to
the
schools
themselves.
We
also
partnered
with
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council
and
worked
through
their
networks
and
we're
happy
to
report
that
3,000
students
received
some
level
of
Cyclone
education
in
their
school.
H
We're
hoping
to
touch
on
a
left
turn
campaign,
which
is
one
of
the
most
common
conflict
points
in
our
road
network
and
the
conflict
point
between
motor
vehicles
and
pedestrians
and
as
well
as
we've
continued
to
fund
pedestrian
safety
presentations
with
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council.
These
are
different
than
the
school
time
ones
that
are
currently
being
offered.
These
are
ones
to
groups
like
sparks
like
brownies
like
Scouts.
H
The
kids
may
not
have
heard
the
information
in
school,
and
so,
if
a
group
approaches
us,
there
is
no
cost
and
our
colleagues
from
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council
will
go
out
and
do
those
presentations
as
we
continue
with
2016.
They
leave
the
phone
alone
campaign
took
a
much
more
school.
Focused
expansion,
with
a
variety
of
different
initiatives
been
offered
to
school
kids
and
the
theory
here
that,
where
we've
gone
and
certainly
I,
have
to
acknowledge
my
colleague
sergeant
Dennis
Hall,
who
has
really
been
the
the
most
aggressive
or
sorry
I,
should
say
aggressive.
H
So
this
is
something
that's
getting
picked
up
right
across
the
country,
so
we're
happy
to
have
been
one
of
the
early
adopters.
A
particular
note
and
sergeant
canes
will
answer
any
of
these
kind
of
technical
questions.
We
recently
launched
the
automated
license
plate
recognition
system,
also
known
as
the
ALPR,
and
many
of
you
may
have
seen-
that
the
media
pick
up
about
this,
but
at
any
given
day
on
any
given
time
on
our
roads
with
about
25,000
people,
which
represents
just
about
four
percent
of
the
driving
population
whose
licenses
are
suspended.
H
For
one
reason
or
another,
it's
a
pretty
fascinating
statistic
when
you
think
all
of
those
people
could
fit
in
TV
for
an
Ottawa
redblacks
go.
So
we
were
approached
by
sergeant
cans
and
the
rest
of
the
staff
and
the
police
service,
and
we
funded
the
purchase
of
the
for
their
implementation
and
I'll.
Certainly
let
the
circle
can
speak
to
the
success
to
date.
As
many
of
you
know,
we,
we
were
very
successful
with
the
school
bus
camera
project.
H
The
recommendations
coming
from
the
collision
investigators
will
be
focused
around
what
from
an
education
perspective.
What
can
we
be
doing
from
an
engineering
perspective
and
certainly
are
there
opportunities
to
do
enhanced
enforcement,
if
that
would
have
played
a
role
in
preventing
the
fatal
collision
again?
This
is
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
in
terms
of
working
through
the
various
steps
and
as
I
believe
everyone
can
appreciate.
There's
a
tremendous
amount
of
confidentiality
involved
in
this,
but
we're
quite
hopeful
that
we'll
have
the
first
committee
struck.
H
So
to
give
you
these
are
some
of
the
visuals
of
the
campaigns.
This
is
the
stay
safe,
stay
back
decal
then,
when
you
are
familiar
with
the
bike
repair
stations
again,
which
are
kind
of
growing
throughout
the
community
and
we're
happy
to
say
the
locations
are
available
as
part
of
the
open
data
project.
This
is
the
cycling
safety
door
hanger.
H
So
this
went
out
to
approximately
12
different
cycling
shops
this
year
and
we
believe
about
2000
of
these
were
placed
on
bicycles,
and
so
they
kind
of
highlight
a
hierarchy
of
kind
of
requirements,
not
only
providing
people
reference
back
to
the
MTA's
website
for
information,
but
also
provides
very,
very
specific
information
on
reflectors
lights
bells
and
then
that
little
phone
at
the
bottom
is
a
reminder
for
parents
that
children
under
the
age
of
18
are
mandated
to
our
bicycle
helmets.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
1
meter
device.
H
Constable
Craig
Barlow
has
been
our
subject
matter
expert.
It's
there
on
the
bottom
right-hand.
You
can
see,
there's
a
little
device
and
way
off
his
left
hand,
those
bicycle
and
we'll
be
going
out
again
soon
in
the
next
couple
weeks
to
do
some
enhanced
and
education
and
hopefully,
enforcement.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
bike.
Maps
dog
project
cyclists
could
can
take
the
lane.
H
This
was
a
bit
of
our
attempt
to
be
a
little
bit
more
cheeky,
with
non-traditional
signage
on
a
particular
location
where
motorists
were
honking
and
trying
to
intimidate
cyclists
on
the
particularly
narrow
stretch
of
road
on
which
connected
slice
of
Main
Street.
So
we
changed
things
up.
I
tried
to
throw
some
I
would
say
more
overt
language
back
our
drivers
to
say
really
lay
off
your
horn.
The
cyclists
can
take
the
lane.
H
These
are
some
of
the
pictures
of
product
that
we
provide
to
the
schools.
There's
the
colouring
activity,
booklet,
there's
all
sorts
of
stuff
that
schools
are
able
to
take,
and
we've
actually
started
to
receive
queries
from
right
across
the
country
for
this
product.
That's
all
through
the
partnership
of
the
other
web
services
available
for
any
jurisdiction
that
wants
to
take
it,
and
this
is
one
of
our
bigger
initiatives
of
the
year.
H
And
this
is
the
safer
roads
ottawa,
along
with
our
Ottawa
Public
Health
Ottawa
Safety
Council,
welcoming
one
of
the
first
walking
school
bus
groups
to
the
school
and
in
council
minutes
word
on
carbon
Gwen.
It
was
a
snowy
day
and
our
staff
followed
the
kids
who
walked
with
them
and
kind
of
celebrated
and
they
gave
them
high-fives
as
they
came
in
and
that's
one
of
the
projects.
H
Are
they
really
proud
to
have
partnered
with
out
of
the
public
health
and
how
Regina
transition
kids
from
being
a
bit
more
active
and
walking
to
school
and,
as
always,
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
will
be
the
annual
launch
of
the
red
ribbon
campaign
with
Mothers
Against
Drunk
Driving,
and
we
bring
together
all
of
our
law
enforcement
partners
from
across
the
region.
So
th
Quebec,
the
service,
the
police
tickets,
know
our
military
police
RCMP
and
certainly
our
fire
paramedic
and
police
parish,
and
we
celebrate
the
that
kind
of
campaign.
H
B
It
thank
you
very
much.
Rob
I'd,
like
to
start
off
by
thanking
you
in
your
team
for
the
work
you
do.
I
know.
You've
got
a
small
group,
a
small
budget,
but
you
somehow
manage
to
make
a
multiply
every
year
into
more
and
more
programs
and
and
I
know
that
the
community,
the
community,
appreciates
that.
So
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
do
have
a
delegation
to
speak
to
this
and
it's
Dale
Harley.
I
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair
just
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
remind
about
staff
in
council
this
committee
that
the
national
capital,
heavy
construction
association
takes
very
seriously
with
cyclists
and
pedestrian
safety
on
our
on
our
roads.
They
also
had
to
remind
the
committee
that
our
association
partnered
with
the
city
on
the
launch
of
the
stay
safe,
stay
back
campaign
that
was
launched
here
at
the
city.
I
In
fact,
we
had
a
dump
truck
from
Tomlinson's
on
site,
with
the
green
signage
on
it
to
give
residents
media
and
the
cyclists
an
opportunity
to
you
know
to
see
what
the
view
lines
are
associated
with
sight
lines
on
on
heavy
equipment
vehicles.
So,
as
I
say
we
take
this
very
seriously.
We
continue
to
be
open
to
opportunities
to
partner
with
with
the
city
and
cycling
groups
and
pedestrian
groups,
and
we
stand
ready
to
sit
down
with
with
this
committee
and
you
nice
chair,
to
discuss
how
we
can
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
H
B
You
think,
for
that
clarification,
the
the
other
quick
question
they
have
before
I
moved
to
committee
members.
Is,
you
talked
about
the
bike
radios
through
the
schools
sounds
like
that's.
That's
been
a
huge
success.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that
program
might
be
available
to
groups
other
than
schools,
for
example?
Can
community
associations
tap
into
that
if
they're
having
a
community
fun
day
or
a
barbecue,
or
something
to
have
incorporated
bike
rodeo
into
that
process
and
how
they
go
about
doing
that.
H
Through
you,
chair
to
the
rest
of
the
community
members,
the
bike
rodeo
is
available.
The
the
members
that
I
was
referring
to
were
only
during
school
hours
and
at
school,
so
any
organization
in
the
community
is
able
to
simply
send
an
email
to
cycling
and
auto
about
CA,
to
request
this
kind
of
support
and
and
through
our
partnership
with
Parks
and
Recreation,
they
will
not
charge
that
community
group
to
participate.
H
So
we
have
other
stats,
although
that's
more
of
a
moving
target
because
they're
still
happening
throughout
the
community,
and
certainly
we
just
did
a
fairly
large-scale
initiative
and
kanata
north
just
this
past
weekend.
So
as
long
as
cut
recreation
can
accommodate,
it
will
cover
the
cost,
through
the
base
funding
to
safer
roads
ottawa,
to
ensure
that
as
many
people
as
possible
get
basic
cycling.
Education.
B
Appreciate
that
I'm
wondering
if
at
year-end,
maybe
you
could
be
back
to
committee
members
and
share
just
all
in
community
associations
and
everything
else,
how
many?
How
many
people
you
reached
with
with
the
bike
education
program?
I,
think
that
we
appreciate
perfect.
So
the
first
speaker
on
the
list
is
councilor
caucus,
Thank.
A
You,
chair
and
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Wilkinson
and
his
team
for
the
great
work
they've
done
from
the
signs
that
you've
distributed
to
our
office
to
being
at
all
the
community
events
in
all
the
awards,
including
mine
I,
can
tell
you
that,
on
behalf
of
my
residents
and
the
community
associations,
it's
been
very
helpful
for
us.
The
work
you
do
and
the
education
that
you
bring
with
you
as
well,
so
I
want
to
start
off
by
with
a
note
of
thanks
and
appreciation
for
the
work,
that's
been
done
through
Sabre
roads
program.
A
My
one
question
was
with
regards
to
the
the
mandate
you
were
given
in
2011.
With
the
you
know,
the
objective
of
toward
zero
and
in
recent
weeks
and
months
with
some
of
the
accidents
we've
seen.
Some
of
my
colleagues,
including
councillor
McKinney,
talked
about
vision,
zero
and
I'm,
just
curious
to
know
from
your
perspective,
what
that
would
entail,
or
what
would
you
do
differently
and
from
what
we're
doing
now
and
what
would
be
done
differently
if
anything,
with
a
vision,
zero
approach.
H
So
thank
you
for
the
question
Council
and
through
the
chair
to
you
in
a
basic
way
to
explain
it
I
believe
the
premise
between
toward
zero
and
vision.
Zero
are
very
similar
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
through
a
series
of
actions
and
investments
trying
to
reduce
traffic
fatalities
to
zero,
as
well
as
the
injuries
so
ultimately
we're
trying
to
avoid
the
collisions
happening
in
the
first
place.
H
I
I,
think
for
if,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
I
think
the
City
Journal
recent
realignment
and
burning
together
a
lot
of
the
traffic
experts
and
putting
them
under
the
newly-formed
transportation
services
department
is
one
very,
very
key
step
to
doing
that.
So
the
planners
and
ultimately
the
people
operating
the
system
are
now
all
working
under
the
same
umbrella.
So
that's
a
significant
step
and
I
think
the
results
are
going
to
start
to
be
felt
and
have
start
to
be
fed
to
almost
immediately
I.
H
H
So
that
would
be
the
next
phase
of
that
is
I
believe
it
would
involve
the
Complete
Streets
policy
that
the
city
has,
but
to
continue
that
so
that
every
time
intersections
are
being
rebuilt,
we
look
at
the
most
vulnerable
people
and
how
we're
going
to
keep
them
safe
through
their
trajectory
through
that
so
I
to
be
very,
very
short,
I
think
the
stars
have
aligned
in
that
particular
case.
We
will
continue
to
do
more
work,
but
I
think
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
H
A
F
You
Ron
mr.
chair
well,
mostly
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
say
for
Rose
Ottawa,
for
the
amazing
work
that
you're
doing
communities
and
I
think
it's
really
high
impact
for
relatively
low
budget.
It
kind
of
amazes
me
how
you're
everywhere
in
every
community
that
they
recognize
your
presence
there
and
they
feel
your
presence
and
they
appreciate
the
good
work
that
you
do
so
I
really
just
wanted
to
to
say.
F
Thank
you
for
that,
and
just
one
sort
of
concern
that
I
have
is
that
cyclists,
the
conflict
between
cyclists
and
cars,
and
especially
the
right
hook
and
I,
tend
to
drive
a
lot
and
I
go
over
the
Pretoria
Bridge
at
night
and
I
turn
right
on
to
Colonel,
buy
and
I
got
tell
you,
I
live
in
fear
of
hitting
a
cyclist,
that's
coming
along
there
and
then
darting
across
colonel
buy
drive,
and
it's
so
dangerous
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
there's
a
rule
for
safer
roads
Ottawa.
F
Looking
at
that
particular
movement,
there
right
turn
with
a
cycled
Lane
coming
beside
because
it
just
seems
really
dangerous
to
me
and
there's
got
to
be
a
better
way.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
parabolic
mirrors
or
if
it's
some
sort
of
signage
or
if
it's
looking
at
the
construction
of
how
the
two
intersect,
but
it
just
it,
just
feels
unsafe
and
I
wonder
if
safer
roads
auto
has
given
any
thought
to
taking
on
that
particular
issue.
They.
E
You,
sir,
yes
counselor!
The
answer
is
absolutely
yes.
Mr.
Wilkinson
I've
put
him
on
the
working
group
with
the
cycling
community,
a
group
from
Laurier,
but
that's
a
broader
look,
also
also
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
strong
alignment
from
what's
going
on
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
they're,
looking
at
the
legislation
for
guard
trucks,
my
God's
for
trucks
and
so
forth,
and
all
those
pieces
the
what
mr.
Wilkinson
described
about
the
realignment
where
we
have
all
the
ease
in
this
program.
E
Together:
engineering,
education
enforcement
all
under
one
roof,
and
a
very
strong
partnership
with
Deputy,
Chief,
Skinner
and
and
Chief
bordello.
Those
are
all
there.
The
piece
that
I'm
going
to
be
looking
at
bringing
to
the
tables
money,
and
so
when
you
people,
like
mr.
Harley,
talk
wanting
to
be
with
us
because
he
does
want
to
meet
with
us.
I'm
just
putting
him
on
notice,
I'm
going
to
be
asking
to
put
put
some
money
on
the
table
and
start
doing
major
sponsorships
of
these
programs,
because
everybody
wants
to
talk.
E
J
Thank
You,
chair
I
also
just
wanted
to
recognize
the
work
that
safer
roads
Ottawa
does
again
on
a
limited
budget
and
not
a
lot
of
staff,
but
the
partnerships
that
they've
built
in
the
community
and
not
only
are
you
everywhere,
but
the
the
initiatives
and
the
the
programs
that
you
undertake
are
often
enjoyed
by
the
community
they're
fun.
They
you
know
they.
They
approach
the
issues
that
we're
looking
at
often
in
a
way
that
you
know
people
buy
into.
J
If
you
will,
you
know
we
handing
out
bike
lights,
the
other
night
that
type
of
thing
so
unable
to
you
know
talk
to
for
myself.
I
know
that
you
know
we're
getting
more
conflicts
now
between
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
You
know
cyclists
on
the
sidewalk
and
and
that's
that's
a
result
of
you
know
an
increase
in
the
number
of
cyclists.
J
You
know
we
are
keeping
you
know
doing
what
we
can
to
build
the
infrastructure,
but
it's
that
I
think
the
growth
is
outpacing.
What
we're
doing
so
we're
getting
more.
You
know
more
cyclists
on
the
sidewalk,
so
just
that
type
of
work
where
we're
able
to
go
out-
and
you
know-
talk
to
both
sides
and
and
not
get
a
finger,
pointing
exercise
I
think
we've
had
some
some
successes
there.
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
that
question
I
had
was
with
respect
to
the
investigations
and
looking
at
what
happens
after
there's
been
a
collision,
and
this
has
been
something
I
mean.
You
know.
Cancer
cowfish
pointed
out
I'm
a
very
big
advocate
of
vision,
zero,
the
twenty
twelve
coroner's
report
into
cycling
and
pedestrian
deaths.
The
interior
corner
was
clear
that
says
it
actually
I
think
in
the
first
paragraph
at
each
one
of
these
deaths
was
preventable.
J
J
Also
taking
a
good
hard
look
at.
You
know
how
we're
designing
our
roadways.
What
we're
doing
is
you
know
councillor
Dean's
pointed
out.
You
know
she's
just
asking
me
actually
what
what
do
I
do
on
that?
You
know
for
that
right
hook,
but
there
are
ways
that
we
can.
We
can
prevent
those
those
those
those
collisions.
You
know
there's
separate
signals.
You
know
there
are
ways
of
doing
it.
It
does
take
resources,
but
but
but
it
can
be
done,
but
the
other
part
of
that
is
also
looking
at
collisions
and
I.
J
Guess
I've
spoken
to
you
about
this
looking
at
collisions
and
my
frustration
is
trying
to
get
the
information
that
we
need
so
that
when
there
is
a
serious
injury
or
death
looking
at
the
collision
and
finding
out
what
what
happened?
Not
it's
somebody
else's
job
to
to
say
who
was
at
fault,
not
mine,
not
ours,
but
to
look
at
what
led
to
that
collision
and
what
we
can
do
to
prevent
it
from
happening
again.
So
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is:
you
know,
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
there
is.
J
You
know,
community
being
struck
to
look
at
that.
Are
you
gonna
have
actual
goals
like?
Are
we
going
to
look
at
intersections
where
you've
had
X
number
of
collisions
and
have
a
goal
of
you
know
reducing
that
to
you
know
five
to
three
to
two
to
one
like
where
we
have.
You
know
robust
initiatives
and
go
somewhere.
You
will
you
be
reporting
back
on
what
that
is
like
when
we,
when
we
understand
what
those
investigations
have
have
led
to
in
terms
of
changing
whatever
happened,
so
that
we
can
prevent
that
type
of
of
collision?
Okay,.
B
E
E
So
the
the
answer
is:
yes,
we
do
have
those
discussions
and
Rob
and
his
team
and
others
and
mr.
Landry
are
doing
a
really
good
job.
I've
been
assessing
that
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
In
terms
of
where
we're
going
with
exactly
that,
your
question
I
can
assure
you
that's
the
direction
they're
going
and
in
terms
overarching
goals
in
our
mind,
whether
it's
an
official
tagline
or
not,
the
goal
is
always
zero
on
your
network.
J
Not
information
on
the
accident
I
understand
that
there's
privacy
issues,
but
if
we've
got
areas
and
intersections-
and
you
know,
lanes
or
roadways
where
there's
a
higher
collision
rate
and
we
were
targeting
that
we
will
we
get
those
measures
back.
Will
we
be
able
to
understand
in
six
months
nine
months
a
year
that
we
have
less
collisions
say
on
the
lawyer
bike
lane
less
collisions
with
you
know
between
drivers
and
pedestrians
at
a
certain
intersection?
That's
a
that's
the
kind
of
information
that
I'm
thinking
of
not
not
the
detail
into
the
accident.
I've.
E
Tasked
mr.
Landry
to
to
think
through
that
discussion,
you
and
I
have
talked
about
that
and
I
welcome
those
questions,
because
what
you're
asking
for
is
we've
got
really
good
data.
What's
the
next
version
of
that
data,
and
and
how
do
we
to
continually
improve
on
reporting
out
to
you?
I
can
tell
you,
though,
mechanically
that's
where
our
head
spaces,
in
terms
of,
if
there's
a
pattern
we
want
to
address
those
patterns.
So
I
agree
with
you
and.
B
And
I
can
not
also
add
in
council,
for
example,
earlier
this
week,
the
mayor
and
I
and
and
councillor
Manette
launched
the
the
new
edition
of
the
red-light
cameras
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
primary
considerations
as
to
where
those
cameras
are
going
is
the
number
of
collisions
at
the
location,
for
example
in
counts
from
Annette's.
It
was
placed
here
and
there
had
been
a
fatality
there
at
that
location.
So
as
part
of
that
program,
I'm
looking
mr.
I
Could
answer
that
question?
We
are
looking
at
all
of
the
locations
that
we
put
red
light
running
cameras
at
and
we
do
monitor
evolute
every
location.
We
do
engineering
measures
out
to
see
if
it's
had
an
impact
on
the
collision
pattern
that
we
were
seeing
before.
We
did
the
implementation
of
the
measures,
and
so.
I
It's
usually
most
monitoring
for
road
safety.
Engineering
measures
is
usually
a
year
to
three
years
after
the
fact,
there's,
usually
a
break-in
period
where
people
are
getting
used
to
it
in
the
first
few
months.
So
we
really
need
at
least
a
year
two
three
years
of
data.
In
order
to
be
able
to
see
any,
you
know
decrease
or
any
change
in
the
pattern.
Okay,.
K
K
I
did
see
through
the
presentation
that
you
are
putting
a
fatal
collision
at
a
view
committee
in
reviewing
area
where
there
is
fatal
crashes,
and
we
also
noticing
in
our
community
lately
that
we
always
understand
speed,
is
fact
I'm
gonna
shifted
from
cyclists
to
cars,
because
in
our
rural
area
we
don't
have
that
many
issues
in
cyclists.
But
we
are
not
feeling
safe
lately.
What
this
Peter
and
there
is.
K
As
you
know,
the
city
of
Ottawa
is
massive
and
we
depend
on
the
resident
to
bring
the
data
to
us
and
report
the
speeder.
You
think
this
this
committee
also
will
be
able
to
review
and
work
with
community
associations
and
area
identify
if
we
bring
it
to
the
attention
to
your
office
and
I
know
what
the
limited
resources
you
have.
K
You
could
look
also
on
educating
this
area
with
what
the
Community
Association
and
having
the
Bloods
going
out
in
the
community
word
police,
because
in
my
mind,
we're
we're
noticing
that
is
speed,
and
now
there
is
collisions
and
the
collisions
some
of
them
really
not
only
from
speeding.
We
have
so
much
distracting
driving
and
the
data
shows
in
our
rural
area
Road.
Now
there
is
so
many
distracting
drive-ins
in
the
villages
and
things
so
can.
K
Maybe
you
can
review
this,
be
proactive
not
only
for
collision
and
also
we
can
identify
a
high
speed
area,
because,
right
now
we
put
speed
boards
and
we
most
counselors
with
our
eyes.
We
are
using
them
proactively
in
our
community
and
we
can
relay
this
data
to
you,
especially
if
we
notice
there
is
an
identifying
area.
I
think
if
we
can
add
that
to
the
program.
We
really
appreciate
it
to
have
these
initiative.
I
For
the
last
few
months,
we've
been
taking
all
of
the
speed
data
that
ivory
collects,
whether
it's
through
a
spot
speed
survey
that
we
conduct
based
on
a
residents
inquiry
about
speeding
or
whether
it's
from
a
speed
board,
and
we
put
that
in
a
directory
on
our
heart
door
on
our
server
and
that
gets
automatically
pushed
to
o-p-s
for
enforcement
every
day
at
noon.
So
all
of
that
speed
survey
data
gets
sent
to
them
and
then
they
can
be
proactive
enforcement
based
on
that
data
that
they
get
every
day
from
our
group
at
the
city.
I
K
I
C
Sheep
is
down
there's
a
member
of
seafood,
steel
Tata.
The
disillusion
second
argument
surfers
are:
was
you
the
chasm
I
catch
other?
Please
they
let
a
crab
whatever
L
malleable,
Olympus
care
on
the
federal
prison,
intersection
memory,
North,
River,
pissed
slab.
The
managed
understand
that
we
do
have
a
loop.
C
Data
section
PTC
as
rival
palaces
convo
I,
will
have
a
public
appetite
central
route
among
fiddler
from
a
so
that's
K
prison
on
a
pretty
behavior
practice
for
syllables
from
Ankeny.
The
first
syllable
see
the
first
two
strategy
for
each
pass
later,
so
a
bond
mrs.
Kevin
about
apartheid
at
the
shack
plate
when
Evel
Knievel
a
good
the
rally,
another
flavor,
a
pea
varieties,
axiom
on
Kauai
premier
sound
much
mercy
Pascal
on
our
super
accessories.
A
successful
keynote
are
usually
designed.
Research
in
Japan
from
on
a
general
point.
C
H
Cause
he
kept
asking
family
is
said:
Africa
mercy,
Allah
service,
direct
analysis
are
CC,
captures
giovannini
and
Iqaluit
Navitus
LED
flexibility,
Latimer
and
a
serviceable
second
Ursula.
The
Levesque
networked
an
area
that
were
doesn't
balance
for
men
as
well
away.
No,
no
seizure,
travel,
Patrick
asthma,
avec
leur
is
operated
by
police.
H
C
H
Subpoena
she
did
about
Jessica
people
and
service.
The
police
data
measure
secure
your
disability,
provide
the
material
balanced,
cavora
gal
delicately
plate.
Given
a
people
in
the
proceeds
for
help
they
double
spreadsheet,
filter,
Vanessa,
say
it's
federal
district
poker.
Ladies
opera-glasses
nopales
Connors
allow
agenda
are
mapping
the
to
salvage
a
second
curve.
I
survey
program
comes
up,
suppose
linear,
avec
level,
separate.
H
C
Having
a
poor
by
which
people
are
informed
because
it's
great
that
residents
are
feeding
into
Oh,
PS
or
PS
is
doing
the
Blitzers
I,
don't
have
an
issue
with
that
that
information
might
be
passed
on
to
Public,
Works
I
hope
it
is
in
a
formal
manner.
But
then
how
was
that
looped
into
our
offices?
Because
then,
if
we
do
the
changes,
are
there
timing-wise
or
turn
restrictions
or
so
on?
You
know
all
that
information
might
not
be
as
centered
and
as
transferable
as
we
might
think.
So
it's
it's
mainly
a
comment.
C
B
Had
a
discussion
with
the
chief
and
he
was
very
open
to
having
that
better
rapport
between
between
our
traffic
people
in
your
offices
and
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
within
that
year.
The
leaps
that
we've
made
in
that
regard
and
the
plans
that
we
have
going
forward
I
think
we're
absolutely
on
the
right
path.
So
thank
you,
for
that
is
that
it
comes
free
accounts
were
check.
Oh
thank.
L
You
very
much,
and
and
yes
and
colleagues
rightfully
you've
received
praise
from
my
colleagues
there's
one
thing
specifically
I
want
to
thank
you
for
and
I
think
is
something
we
really
have
to
continue,
which
is
your
title
itself.
Safer
roads
ottawa
says
it
it's
not
about
targeting
any
one
group:
it's
not
about
blaming
anyone,
it's
about
saying,
they're,
the
roads
we're
all
using
them,
let's
make
them
safer,
and
that
does
require
sometimes
directing
a
message
at
a
particular
group,
because
we
want
to
change
a
particular
kind
of
behavior.
L
Going
and
I
think
the
message
we
have
to
continue
to
get
out
there.
It's
it's
teamwork
with
everyone
else
with
you
and
it's
about
respect,
and
so
when
that
translates
into
a
message
about
the
right
hook
or
others
if
you're
a
driver.
Yes
take
the
time
check
your
mirror,
because
someone
might
do
something
they
shouldn't
be
doing
if
you're
the
cyclist
in
that
situation,
you're
not
supposed
to
gun
straight
through
just
because
you're
in
a
bike
lane
you've
got
some
responsibility,
not
just
privileges
and
and
I.
L
Think
that's
a
message
that
I
think
that
I
hear
from
you
and
that
we
have
to
have
to
keep
delivering
on
that
note,
because,
unfortunately,
some
people
tend
to
think
of
when
they
hear
a
message
directed
at
that.
Somehow
there
is
a
blame.
There
I'm
wondering
how
much
of
your
message
is
directed
at
the
world
that
cyclists
can
play
in
their
own
safety.
So
I
hear
about
the
lights
reflectors
that
you
really
must
have
maybe
obliged
to.
L
H
The
basis
for
most
of
our
awareness
campaigns
have
always
been
centered
around
parallel
language.
So
a
good
case
in
point
is:
there's
a
safe
stay
back.
The
the
original
concept
of
that
project
was
slap
the
decal
on
the
back
of
the
heavy
vehicle
and
then
talk
to
cyclist
about
staying
back
where
our
project
changed
was
that
it
also
fostered
a
discussion
with
the
operators
of
the
vehicles.
H
With
a
one-dimensional
message,
because
normally
that
the
receiver
and
a
ton
of
complaints
concerning
that,
because
it
is
a
delicate
balance
and
there's
messaging
for
both
sides,
so
we
refer
to
it
as
parallel
language
so
that
everybody
has
a
role
to
play
in
order
to
make
the
drive
home
drive
to
work,
drive
to
school
safer,
and
we
will
go
out
with
those
repeatedly.
We
will
never
go
out
with
a
1-dimensional.
It's
your
fault
campaign,
all.
L
Right,
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
got
a
term
now,
I
can
use
and
I
can't
think
of
a
you
know
single
instance,
where
you
know
that
would
be
appropriate
to
just
go
out
at
one
group.
The
iPad
goes
in
times
out
on
me
with
my
question
list
here:
kids
on
sidewalks,
we
recently
on
bicycles,
we
recently
correspondent
from
what
I
got
back
from
you,
they're
actually
being
it
seems
to
be
kind
of
an
unwritten
agreement
that
little
bike
riding
slowly
on
a
sidewalk.
H
From
our
perspective,
we
would
think
that
that's
acceptable
because
of
the
chance
of
their
at
that
four-year-old
making
the
road
can
have
devastating
and,
in
many
cases,
fatal
consequences.
So
from
a
messaging
perspective,
we
go
out
with
if
you
know,
stay
off
the
sidewalks
from
an
application
perspective.
If
the
parent
feels
more
comfortable
having
their
fail
to
on
their
from
our
perspective,
we
would
encourage
them
not
to,
but
we're
certainly
understanding
of
it.
I,
but
I
should
serve
that.
The
enforcement
piece
of
that
to
my
colleagues.
M
Yes,
I
would
rob
their.
We
use
a
common
sense
approach
in
relation
to
enforcement,
we're
not
expecting
a
four-year-old
and
their
mother
to
take
to
a
busy
road.
We
would
fully
expect
them
to
utilize
the
sidewalk.
It's
a
safer
environment,
whereas,
if
we're
getting
an
aggressive
cyclists
coming
down
a
sidewalk
and
obviously
inconveniencing
pedestrians,
we
would
take
a
totally
different
approach
and
enforce
the
bylaw
accordingly,
that
we
use
a
common-sense
approach,
and
so
every
situation
is
different.
M
L
And
I
realize
that's
what
makes
it
so
hard
to
have
wheels.
So
I
did
have
a
mother
asked
me:
is
it
sort
of
a
wheel
size?
Is
it
an
age
because
some
people
totally
accept
that
the
very
little
child
is
tooling
along
on
the
sidewalk
and
others
say:
hey
get
off
the
sidewalk,
and
so
she
wanted
to
know
you
know
is:
is
there
is
a
law
here,
so
I
reckon
there's
a
gray
zone?
Of
course,
common
sense
is
good.
L
L
Say
we
flip
the
onus.
No
cyclist
should
be
cycling
on
the
sidewalk,
but
a
little
attitude
is
given
for
little
kids
with
bikes
would
perhaps
be
the
better
way
of
Larry
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
You
mentioned
videos,
I,
guess,
I
have
to
ask
the
question,
however.
Well
they
may
be
made.
Is
anyone
watching
them?
How
do
we
get
them
out
there
do
we
know
if
they're
being
watched
any
way
of
judging
them,
so.
H
Currently,
the
videos
were
all
in
their
final
stages
of
either
being
approved
to
edited
and
so
forth.
So
we
haven't
launched
them
necessarily,
but
we
just
thought
it
would
be
important
that
members
of
the
committee
were
aware
that
we're
trying
to
use
that
kind
of
opportunity
or
style
of
communicating
as
much
as
possible.
H
We
will
be
putting
them
up
onto
the
ottawa
police,
YouTube
channels
and
we'll
be
looking
at
how
getting
picked
up,
but
there's
also
the
ability
for
us
to
push
them
out
at
certain
times
of
the
year.
So
once
our
cycle,
videos
are
up
and
running
we'll
start
to
see
them
more
present
during
the
extended
cycling
season.
Just
like
motorcycle
safety,
videos
will
likely
promote
those
during
the
month
of
May
when
our
sad-ass
elective
traffic
enforcement
program
is
focused
on
motorcycle
safety,
so
use
them
as
thematic
opportunities
to
push
important
messages
out.
Yeah.
L
L
The
question
of
single
file
on
roads,
where
there
just
is
not
room
for
a
car
to
pass
a
cyclist
safely
and
the
signs
are
there
with
that
image
of
the
single
file,
even
with
our
more
aggressive
messaging
or
attempt
at
some
humor
and
a
little
more
stark
language
stop
honking
cyclists
may
use
the
road.
You
know
that
my
message
was
actually
sent
us
half
to
use
the
road.
There
was
no
choice,
and
so
that's
something
we're
continuing
to
try
to
get
as
a
respect
from
both
sides
of
that's
the
only
place.
L
L
H
Was
a
little
bit
of
a
different
project
because
it's
focused
on
a
construction
period
and
I
believe
the
construction
period
on
the
bridge
itself
is
going
to
go
on
for
another
extended
period
of
time.
We
have
had
requests
to
use
that
in
other
locations
across
the
city,
but
we've
tried
to
put
some
fun
limits
on
it.
We
don't
want
to
see
it
used
everywhere.
We
want
to
see
it
used
in
those
effective
scenarios
where
the
cyclist
does
not
where
the
cyclist
and
driver
do
not
have
the
opportunity
to
not
follow
one
another.
So
to
speak.
H
So
I
can
tell
you.
We've
received
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
off
of
Facebook
and
all
sorts
of
other
channels
where
it's
gone,
usually
from
the
cycling
community.
Saying
thanks
for
doing
this,
thanks
for
trying
to
push
the
message
out,
but
we
will
certainly
be
using
that
as
part
of
our
toolkit
moving
forward
in
other
scenarios,.
L
And
not
nothing!
This
is
my
last
question
or
comment
that
was
my
intent.
Was
yes
great?
Here's
one
specific
situation
where,
during
this
construction
project,
it's
clearly
necessary,
but
that
can
we
learn
from
it
so
that
in
future
construction
situations
like
that
or
maybe
permanent
conditions
going
under
a
bridge-
that's
always
going
to
be
that
way
where
we
may
have
something
to
or
to
try
to
change
behavior.
So,
yes,
I
would
ask
that
if
we've
got
some
monitoring,
if
you
actually
have
any
statistics
on
how
effective
that
was.
Certainly
anecdotally,
I've
got
lots
of.
L
A
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
and
mr.
Wilkinson
done
to
your
team.
I
want
to
say
a
very
appreciative.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
in
the
last
three
or
four
years
working
with
the
communities
and
community
associations,
along
with
all
the
other
partners
that
you've
involved
in
your
programs.
You
know
in
terms
of
education.
A
A
Obviously
what
is
the
success
rate,
and
you
know
biggest
part
of
you-
the
program
coming
out
of
safer
ORS
Ottawa
is
education
and
education
is
a
you
know,
good
thing
to
have,
but
in
the
long
run
you
know
maybe
in
the
future,
maybe
next
year,
maybe
in
2018,
if
you
can
try
to
analyze
some
of
these
projects
that
be
initiated
and
just
figure
out
how
to
measure
them
and
how
to
put
a
matrix
on
them.
So
somebody
looking
at
it
from
an
economic
perspective,
along
with
the
accidental
perspectives,
can
say:
yeah,
okay,
the,
for
example.
A
This
slowed
down
for
us
campaign
sign
it's
in
every
ward
that
you
go
to
every
streets
and
some
streets
have
more
than
one
sign.
The
questions
I
get
asked
is
how
successful
is
it
and
sometimes
from
the
residents
on
the
street,
because
they
don't
see
any
success
on
it
because
they
still
see
that
speeding
car
going
by?
But
if
you
or
your
department
working
with
the
partners,
can
put
some
kind
of
a
metrics
to
those
programs
in
the
future.
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful.
Have
you
got
plans
for
doing
something
with
it.
H
Share
through
you
to
the
councillor
one
of
the
benefits
of
having
some
of
the
wonderful
staff
from
public
health
working
with
us
on
the
project.
Right
now
is
they
come
to
us
with
a
very,
very
specific
training
in
terms
of
an
assessment
and
an
evaluation,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
were
currently
I
am
from
the
awareness
campaign
piece,
we're
very,
very
hopeful
through
the
technology
that
will
roll
around.
H
A
A
You
know
some
of
it
is
behavior,
obviously
driver
behavior,
but
some
of
it
is
also
can
be
related
to
the
way
the
roads
are
constructed
initially
and
why
we're
not
initiating
from
word
goal
in
terms
of
specially
greenfield
developments
of
putting
some
kind
of
traffic
calming
measures
on
a
road
that
is,
it
acquired
20
years
from
now,
but
you're
widening
it
already.
So
those
kind
of
things
are
you
involved
in
those
kind
of
process
of
the
planning
and
with
traffic.
H
I
Traffic
services
is
currently
working
with
the
building
better
suburbs
plan.
I
guess
it
is
to
try
and
achieve
just
that.
How
do
we
build
roads
that
achieve
lower
operating
speeds?
That's
one
of
the
mandates,
so
I
have
somebody
from
my
staff
sitting
on
it.
Phil
Landry
chairs
that
group,
so
we're
actively
involved
in
trying
to
get
those
the
new
roads
to
operate
at
the
speed
we
want
them
top
rate.
Thank.
A
I
would
give
it
with
ups
also
to
have
them
not
necessary
in
terms
of
developing
communities,
but
how
you
build
in
some
models
into
that
community
that
could
help
them
enforce
even
better
whether
it's
you
know
built
in
speed
signs,
for
example,
going
forward
in
a
community
where
you
know
you're
going
to
expect
some
conditions
that
they're
going
to
lead
to
speeding
or
other
issues,
and
it
would
be
the
same
thing
and
the
one
example
that
I
will
put
on
the
table.
This
point
that
I
think
everybody's
aware
is
those
new
speed.
A
Bumps
that
are
being
a
you
know,
talked
about
the
cushion
bumps
where
a
vehicle
of
the
car
is
has
to
go
through
the
bump,
but
the
large
vehicles
that
we've
always
had
issues
with
weather,
BOC
buses
or
fire
equipment
they
can.
They
can
still
go
through
our
pump
without
feeling
the
effects
of
that
pump.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
it
leads
to
in
terms
of
when
you
have
cooperation
between
the
partners.
So
thank
you
and
thanks
again
for
all
that
you've
done
in
this
program
and
your
team.
Thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
council,.
G
Center
again,
I'll
repeat
what
everybody
also
said
about:
congratulations
something
can
when
it
comes
to
education
and
sharing
a
road
I
can't
care
where
people
are
are
finally
getting
it
and
I'm
in
the
car
drivers
of
cyclists,
pedestrians
I
think
the
word
is
getting
around
and
a
prime
example
is
Laurier.
As
we
leave
Laurier,
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
about
the
bite
wounds
when
they
were
first
Bunyan
specialist
Oaks
often
some
of
the
drivers
actually
run
over
mistakes.
You
start
off
today.
G
When
you
see
these
drivers
are
stopping
where
the
pathway
is
further
cycling
and
are
respecting
that
you
know
cycle
might
be
there
and
if
they
are
so,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
positive
things
on
our
moving
forward.
I
think
a
you
know,
a
counselor
trigger
psycho
touched
on
it
to
education,
for
everybody
is,
is
extremely
important.
I
think
enforcement
for
everybody
is
also
extremely
important.
G
Know
Bob
you
mentioned
that
you
know
and
the
fact
the
driver
doesn't
get
fined
when
if
you
have
a
cyclist
that
is
even
in
the
note,
you
should
be
a
way
of
educating
that
cyclists
also
learn.
If
it
is
a
matter
of
enforcement
down
the
road
on
that
maybe
should
be
considered
is
when
I
know
this
is
coming
down.
G
Elgon
Street
is
many
charters
will
try
and
respect,
not
one
meter,
in
fact,
they're
respected
to
the
point
of
going
to
the
other
side
of
the
lane
and
affecting
traffic
and
made
me
gain
into
a
collision
because
of
it
so
I
think
there's
an
education
aspect,
and
you
know.
Maybe
you
know.
If
enforcement
we
made
a
certain
instance.
G
G
If
you
were
doing
the
step
programs
in
the
future
and
I
guess
I'm
addressing
that
to
the
police
department,
is
that
they
also
look
at
vehicles,
they
also
look
at
cyclists
and
pedestrians
and
if
they
notice
infractions,
you
know
I
mean
everybody
shouldn't
shouldn't
be
following
your
rules
on
the
road,
so
I
think
as
a
step
program.
I
think
when
you
argue
and
leave
the
phone
alone
each
night.
We
might
be
doing
this
already,
but
you
know
just
look
under
broad
aspect
from
the
road.
G
Does
everything
happening
also
and
if
you
see
an
infraction,
you
know
act
on
it
and
whether
it
be
just
explaining
if
it's
a
bunch
of
cyclists,
going
through
a
red
light,
you
know
it
can
be
a
warning
that
bicycle
is
a
vehicle
just
like
a
vehicle
and
if
you
go
to
you
have
to
follow
the
rules
in
the
road,
and
you
know
santi
more
education,
and
maybe
more
enforcement
needs
to
be
done.
What
were
you
seeing?
G
Not
any
questions
at
this
time?
I,
just
wanna
also
mentioned
that
it
is
very
much
appreciated
now,
when
safer
roads
are
doing
programs
they're,
not
just
hearing
that
to
the
downtown
core.
Your
Altidore
lanes
are
out
in
Statesville,
we've
done
the
pathways
near-term,
which
again
it's
not
only
the
cycling
there,
but
not
seniors,
and
they
access
the
cycling,
road
and
seniors
and
cyclists
and
know
they
have
cyclists
for
seniors,
not
men
incorporated
in
Briere.
So,
okay
money
is
getting
the
message
and
everybody's
learning
new,
that
roads
are
for
everybody
and
it's
what
aggressive
promotion.
G
B
You
I
believe
that
was
the
last
speaker
again.
I
just
want
to
want
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
one
of
the
things
I
really
like
about
safer
roads
and
I,
want
to
say
this.
While
the
police
are
still
at
the
table
and
traffic
is
still
at
the
table,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
example
of
how
a
program
at
City
Barbican
sort
of
break
down
those
silos,
because
what
makes
this
really
effective
is
your
interaction
with
all
the
various
organizations
and
departments
and
I
think
Deputy,
Chief
Skinner,
says
said
it.
B
Well,
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
that
sort
of
interactive,
interagency
approach
to
intelligent
enforcement,
and
you
know
you're
a
catalyst.
This
programs,
a
catalyst
to
making
that
happen.
So
again,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
partners
at
the
table
and
we'd
left
here
more
than
epi
Skinner,
as
that
program
involves
as
to
how
the
councillors
get
more
involved
in
how
we
can
use
that
information
thanks.
D
M
M
They
expressed
the
rather
alarming
number
of
suspended
drivers
we
have
on
our
oats.
It's
upset
25,000
people
with
just
within
the
city
limits
and
that's
not
taking
into
account
other
people
commuting
into
the
city
on
a
daily
basis.
So
with
that
fact,
I
felt
that
this
would
be
a
fantastic
piece
of
equipment
to
have
and
to
utilize
within
the
service
and
I
campaign,
for
it
for
a
little
while.
M
But
if
I
could
give
you
some
brief
statistics,
I've
been
keeping
the
daily
record
of
statistics
as
they
came
in
once
officers
have
been
out.
They
provided
me
with
the
various
statistics
that
they
had
throughout
the
day.
So
far,
ALPR
has
basically
caught
over
30
suspended
drivers
and
that
takes
into
effect
they've
had
their
license,
suspended
they've
through
medical
reasons,
unpaid
fines
etc.
M
Those
people
that
have
either
unwittingly
or
totally
negligently
have
decided
that
they're
not
going
to
pay
their
license
fees
to
the
MTO,
so
we've
had
a
huge
success
in
being
Leawood
suspended
and
unlicensed
drivers,
and
not
so
much
from
our
own
safety
perspective.
But
more
current
events
that
this
device
will
detect
is
obviously
non-payment
of
validation.
M
I
pay,
everyone
suppo
right,
that's
the
view
I
take
and
just
under
a
month
that
device
is
detected
of
one
hundred
and
twelve
people
that
decided
that
they
don't
want
to
renew
their
validation
and
the
worst
one
was
back
from
2013
from
an
O
pious
respective.
Obviously,
we
wanted
there
to
make
the
road
safer.
Obviously
this
isn't
a
cheap
piece
of
equipment.
It
did
cost
safer.
Roads
are
over
forty
thousand
dollars,
however,
with
the
statistics
that
I've
keep
on
a
daily
basis
and
and
implementing
the
maximum
fines.
M
That
could
be
a
given
that
call
this
device
has
accumulated
within
just
hour
a
month.
Now,
forty
five
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy-five
dollars
impossible
fines.
Court
I
can't
tell
what's
going
to
happen
at
court,
a
number
of
people
who
have
been
charged
with
no
insurance,
that
for
a
first
offense,
incurs
a
maximum
fine
of
$5,000,
obviously
with
a
bit
of
plead
call
that
could
be
possibly
reduced,
two
to
three
thousand
on
us,
but
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
This
is
a
fantastic
piece
of
equipment
and.
B
K
H
We
cut
through
the
chair
to
you,
I
think,
based
on
the
success.
We
probably
wanna,
go
a
few
more
months
and
evaluate
how
sergeant
cans
and
his
colleagues
can
continue
to
take
advantage
of
the
technology
and
then
certainly
from
the
return
on
investment,
as
well
as
getting
from
our
perspective.
People
who
should
not
be
driving
off
I
think
we
would
be
hard-pressed
to
not
respond
to
the
honorably
service
request
to
expand
their
fleet
of
automated
license
plate
recognition
systems
and.
M
M
K
Thank
you
and
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation
and
the
stats,
because
using
the
technology
to
our
to
keep
some
driver
that
they're
not
supposed
to
be
on,
or
they
shouldn't
be
on
the
road
and
being
proactive
and
using
the
technology
to
our
benefit,
to
keep
our
community
safe,
I'm
sure
this
committee
is
really
happy
with
the
result
and
we're
here
to
support
you.
So
thank
you
very
much
on
behalf
of.
B
C
C
J
You
chair
mine
is
on
sidewalks
and
enclosures
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
preface
it
by
saying
that
our
staff
are
actually
exceptional
whenever
they're
asked
to
go
out
and
take
a
look
and
make
sure
that
there's
detours
for
for
pedestrians.
But
but
my
question
is
what
is
the
policy
on
providing
detours
for
pedestrians
when
sidewalks
are
closed
by
a
contractors
and
particularly
when
sidewalks
are
closed
on
both
sides
of
a
street,
which
has
happened
several
times
this
summer,
where
pedestrians
have
been
told
to
use
the
other
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
road?
J
So
actually,
one
day
when
I
was
cycling
in
there
were
four
corners
with
that
that
very
sign
on
so
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
policy
is
for
pedestrians
when
the
sidewalks
are
closed
by
the
contractors
and
how
the
policy
is
enforced
and
what
we
do
to
make
sure
that
that
there
is
some
provision
for
pedestrians,
especially
those
with
mobility
challenges.
At
all
times.
Thanks
can.
F
You
could
stop.
Please
provide
a
citywide
overview
of
the
temporary
traffic
calming
fund,
including
both
the
total
money
span
and
the
elements
installed,
and
can
staff
also
provide
details
and
totals
for
the
annual
operational
costs
of
each
of
these
installed
traffic.
Calming
measures
such
as
flex
takes
speed,
display
signs
and
pavement
markings
and
I
recognize
that
this
might
be
better
to
wait
till
the
end
of
the
year,
so
they
have
a
full-year
picture,
but
I
just
put
it
in
now
and
I
don't
need
an
immediate
reply.
I.