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From YouTube: Transportation Committee – 3 May 2017
Description
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
A
May
is
Bike
to
Work
month
a
time
of
year
when
the
city
promotes
cycling,
is
a
fun
and
healthy
part
of
the
daily
commute
to
and
from
work.
It's
an
appropriate
time
to
also
honor
others
who
help
us
achieve
the
goals
we
set
out
in
the
2013
transportation
master
plan
of
increasing
the
cycling
modal
share
from
3%
to
5%
of
the
morning
peak
period
trips
and
have
cycling
account
for
8%
of
all
trips
in
the
downtown.
A
Every
year
we
recognize
the
efforts
of
others
for
their
outstanding
contributions
in
Ottawa
cycling
community
through
the
bourse,
Timmerman's
Awards.
First
tournaments
was
a
long
time,
cycling
educator
and
advocate
an
active
member
of
the
Ottawa
bicycle
club
and
a
founding
member
of
citizens
for
safe
cycling.
We
honor
his
legacy
every
year
through
the
Awards
we
are
presenting
here
today.
This
morning
we
are
presenting
one
individual
and
one
organizational
award
I'll
invite
the
recipients
to
come
forward
shortly
to
receive
their
awards.
The
individual
award
goes
to
mr.
Gareth
Davies
Gareth
came
to
Ottawa
from
Toronto.
A
God
bless
you
and
brought
with
him
a
level
of
energy
and
enthusiasm
that
can
only
be
described
as
all
Canadian.
He
loves
his
newly
adopted
City
and
as
and
as
as
much
as
his
country,
and
it
shows
it
in
everything
that
he
does.
Gareth
is
a
community
builder
taking
on
the
role
presence
of
citizens
for
safe
cycling
in
2015.
He
has
made
advocacy
something
that
is
not
only
positive
but
a
truly
pleasant
experience.
He
works
on
bringing
people
together
to
collaborate
on
strengths
and
make
cycling
better
for
all.
A
Gareth
keeps
the
conversation
positive
thanked
for
that.
He
works
at
potential
solutions
and
builds
bridges
between
partners
to
ensure
many
voices
are
heard
before
a
recommendation
is
made
whether
you
are
a
leisure
rider
who
needs
a
safer
word
to
the
library
or
a
commuter
who
needs
respect
as
a
vehicle
on
the
road.
Gareth
will
listen.
Smile
and
help
is
truly
passionate
about
cycling
and
works
tirelessly
and
promoting
cycling,
advocating
for
a
safe
and
efficient
bike
infrastructure
and
has
become
the
voice
of
cyclists
in
Ottawa.
A
Gareth
is
a
strong
supporter
of
Cosway,
safer
roads,
Ottawa
enviro
Center,
the
part
L
food
center
and
many
other
community
and
nonprofit
groups
in
Ottawa.
He
is
truly
an
outstanding
citizen,
not
just
for
this
bike
advocacy
work,
but
in
making
Ottawa
more
sustainable,
vibrant
place
to
live.
We
were
all
lucky
when
he
decided
to
make
Ottawa's
home
Gareth.
Please
come
forward
to
receive
a
well
deserved
award,
but
also
like
to
invite
councillor,
Mark,
Taylor,
guess,
ward
councillor
to
join
me
for
the
presentation.
A
So
don't
leave
them
in
go
because
we're
going
to
do
a
group
shot.
After
with
the
other
Award
winner.
This
year,
the
organization
award
goes
to
Ottawa
Safety
Council
found
it
in
1957.
The
Ottawa
Safety
Council
is
a
nonprofit
organization
that
advocates
for
and
delivers
high
quality
Risk
Reduction
in
injury
prevention
programs
in
our
community
in
2016,
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council's
bike
rodeo
program
provided
more
than
2,000
young
cyclists
across
Ottawa,
with
the
chance
to
learn
safe
riding
skills
and
rules
of
the
road
through
fun
activities
and
demonstrations.
A
The
rodeos
help
children
from
JK
to
grade
four
learn
about
various
elements
of
safe
and
responsible
bicycling,
including
proper
helmet.
Fitting
maintenance
rules
of
the
road
and
traffic
signs
hand,
signals
shoulder,
checks,
balance
and
waving
and
maneuvering.
The
rodeos
are
offered
at
no
charge
to
participants
and
most
are
delivered
in
the
school
setting
in
conjunction
with
bike
to
school
events.
For
that
reason,
the
program
is
also
a
key
component
of
broader
efforts
to
increase
rates
of
active
school
travel
in
Ottawa.
A
Children
who
learn
to
cycle
and
to
cycle
safely
are
more
likely
to
be
a
commuter
or
recreational
cyclists
as
adults.
Since
1996,
more
than
40,000
Ottawa
children
have
benefited
from
this
program.
In
addition
to
the
bike
rodeo
program,
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council
also
supports
children's
mobility
through
its
adult
crossing
guard,
walking
school
bus
and
pedestrian
safety.
Presentation
programs
I'd
like
to
invite
two
representatives
from
the
Ottawa
Safety
Council
Julie
vote,
CEO
and
Corrine
Wickham
and
program
manager
to
come
forward
and
accept
the
award.
A
So
we
have
quorum
in
the
room.
We've
received
no
regrets,
no
declarations
of
interest,
confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
April
5th
2017
carried.
Thank
you.
The
first
item
is
applying
the
complete
Street
lens
to
projects
in
2016
and
to
seventh
and
2017.
The
recommendation
is
that
the
Transportation
Committee
received
their
support
for
information.
A
A
Number
three
on
our
agenda
is
the
Vanguard
Drive
extension
launched
a
drive
to
Melbourne
Road
environmental
assessment
studies,
statement
of
work.
The
recommendation
is
of
the
Transportation
Committee
approved
the
statement.
Work
for
the
Vanguard
Drive
extension
launched
a
drive,
Jamelle
Bouie
Road
environmental
assessment
study
has
detailed
in
document
number
one
carried
okay.
Thank
you.
So
we
will
go
back
to
the
Elven
street
presentation
and
I'm
going
to
invite
Phoebe
Qi
and
her
team
up
to
lead
the
presentation.
A
I
want
to
thank
miss
chia
and
her
team.
There
was
a
lot
of
public
consultation
involved
in
this
process.
A
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
suggestion
from
the
residents,
the
the
businesses
in
the
area
counselors
on
the
committee
counselors
at
large
and
I
believe
that,
what's
in
front
of
us
today,
incorporates
much
of
those
discussions
and
shows
that
the
city
has
heard
the
concerns
raised
by
a
number
of
different
groups,
a
number
of
different
stakeholders.
A
We
had
a
stakeholders
group
that
we
work
with
as
well
and
I
want
to
thank
them
for
the
work
that
they've
done
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
2vv
and
our
team
to
lead
the
presentation
and
then
we'll
move
into
delegations
and
again,
if
any
of
the
committee
members
have
questions
if
for
the
for
staff,
if
they
could
hold
them
until
after
the
delegations.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
You,
chair
good
morning
beside
me,
is
Colin
Simpson
who's,
the
program
manager
of
the
transportation
engineering
services
branch
in
my
area
and
next
to
him
is
Ron
Clark.
Our
consultant
lead
on
from
Parsons.
Also
in
the
audience.
We
have
the
rest
of
the
persons
team,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
mess
of
black
is
our
City
project
manager
on
this
file,
she's
she's
in
the
audience
as
well.
B
It's
it's
a
very
has
been
a
very
complex
project
and
we're
very
pleased
today
to
present
to
you
a
plan
that
balances
all
the
needs
of
the
users
in
the
corridor.
This
project,
this
recommended
plan,
also
addresses
all
of
our
councils
policies
and
approved
design
standards.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mr.
Simpson
to
begin
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
D
Heavy
construction
for
these
renewal
works
is
planned
to
begin
in
2019,
and
that
provides
the
opportunity
to
consider
improvements
to
the
surface
configuration
of
these
streets,
which
is
the
focus
of
the
staff
recommendations
and
staff
report
before
you
today.
The
recommended
plan,
as
Vivi
mentioned,
fulfils
all
provincial
and
municipal
accessibility
requirements.
It
is
consistent
with
council
approved
policy
directions
with
respect
to
traditional
Main
streets,
design,
priority
areas,
complete
streets
and
the
arterial
road
network
and
in
general.
D
Recent
similar
renewal
projects
include
Wellington
Street
West,
which
was
reconstructed
in
2010
for
water
main
and
sewer
work,
and
this
photo
shows
how
the
street
looks
today.
Just
west
of
Holland
Avenue,
the
sidewalks
were
widened
and
coordinated
with
an
integrated,
freshing
and
landscaping
plan,
which
also
included
public
art.
D
D
You
know,
in
summary,
all
of
these
Street
View
examples,
including
others
such
as
Main,
Street
and
Queen
Street.
These
are
all
examples
of
four-lane
arterial
roads
that
have
been
reduced
to
two
lanes
with
on
street
parking
to
enhance
the
public
space,
and
all
of
these
examples
are
applicable
and
transferable
to
the
elegant,
Street
and
Hawthorne
context.
D
The
general
study
area
for
this
project
includes
Elgon
Street,
south
of
Laurier
Avenue
to
patria
bridge
and
Hawthorne
Avenue
west
of
Main
Street.
It
also
includes
one
short
block
of
Whaley
Street
between
Elgon
Street
and
Jack
Russell
Park.
The
reconstruction
limits
for
the
upcoming
renewal
project
is
slightly
smaller
than
our
project
area,
shown
here
by
the
dashed
line
that
extends
south
of
Lisgar
Street
to
Isabella
Street,
including
the
Waverly
Street
in
Hawthorne
Avenue
sections.
D
This
photo
shows
open.
Street
today
is
a
four-lane
road
with
on-street
parking
permitted
off
times
off-peak
times.
Only
the
sidewalks,
including
the
clear
with
space,
is
very
narrow
to
maneuver
in
many
locations,
there's
just
enough
space
for
one
pedestrian
in
each
direction
to
pass
each
other,
resulting
in
pedestrians.
D
So
it
can
be
a
very
busy
place
for
people
on
foot
Elgon
street
today
includes
a
typical
Eastside
configuration
of
to
motor
vehicle
travel
lanes
that
both
varying
widths
of
approximately
three
to
three
point:
three
meters,
which
is
substandard
in
terms
of
the
transportation
Association
of
Canada's,
recommended
width
of
3.5
meters.
Note
that
the
width
of
an
OC
Transpo
bus
from
near
Damir
is
three
point:
three
meters,
and
so
buses
and
other
heavy
vehicles
typically
encroach
into
the
adjacent
lanes.
D
The
consultation
process
included
a
formation
of
a
diverse
working
group
of
stakeholders
that
comprised
of
mainly
community
and
business
leaders
as
well
as
city
staff.
There
were
four
formal
working
group
meetings
through
the
course
of
study,
in
addition
to
two
public
open
houses
that
were
well
attended.
The
first
open
house
in
June
of
2016
was
a
large
workshop
format
that
helped
scope
the
direction
of
the
project,
while
the
second
public
open
house
in
January
of
2017
focused
on
the
recommended
design
project.
D
Web
page
was
also
established
to
disseminate
and
receive
information,
including
an
online
questionnaire
that
generated
more
than
a
thousand
responses,
and
the
recommended
plan
was
also
presented
to
the
urban
design
review
panel,
as
well
as
the
accessibility,
Advisory
Committee.
There
are
also
additional
stakeholder
meetings
as
well.
D
The
consultation
feedback
helped
to
form
the
general
planning
framework
that
guided
the
recommended
plan,
which
included
the
following
key
points:
to
enhance
public
space
through
widening
sidewalks
and
providing
amenities
through
including
attention
to
business
frontage
space
on
street
parking
in
loading
opportunities
to
improve
cycling
conditions
through
lowering
vehicle
operating
speeds.
Given
that
there
is
insufficient
right
of
way
to
provide
bike
lanes
to
ensure
continuity
of
the
arterial
road
network.
D
This
is
a
rendering
of
the
recommended
plan
for
Elgon
Street
between
Lisgar
Street
and
Argyle
Avenue.
It
includes
to
vehicle
travel
lanes
for
this
nine
block
segment.
Along
with
turning
lanes
at
most
of
the
signalized
intersections
south
of
Argyle
Avenue,
a
four
lane
cross
section
is
recommended
to
match
into
the
existing
road
configuration.
The
the
traffic
analysis
which
is
appended
to
the
staff
report
is
document.
Four
shows
that
the
recommended
design
will
accommodate
motor
vehicle
demand
without
diverting
traffic
onto
other
streets.
D
However,
travel
times
will
likely
increase
by
one
to
one
and
a
half
minutes
in
the
peak
directions
during
peak
times,
and
this
represents
about
a
twenty
five
to
thirty
five
percent
increase
in
motor
vehicle
travel
times
along
this
section
of
algún
Street,
the
sidewalks
are
recommended
to
be
widened
with
pedestrian,
clear
zones
of
at
least
two
meters
and
approximately
90
flex.
Spaces
for
on
street
parking
or
for
patio
areas
have
been
integrated
into
the
recommended
design.
D
The
recommended
design
is
fairly
symmetrical
for
both
sides
of
alguns
Street
shown
here
is
the
typical
East
Side,
which
includes
a
3.5
meter,
wide
shared
vehicle
lane
adjacent
to
a
two
point:
five
meter
wide
flex
space
that
can
be
used
for
parking
or
patio
space,
and
this
flex
space
would
be
at
the
same
height
as
the
sidewalk,
similar
to
what
has
been
recently
constructed.
Just
a
few
blocks
away
on
Queen
Street,
the
sidewalk
itself
would
be
widened
and
there
will
be
space
for
landscaping
amenities.
D
As
previously
noted,
monstery
parking
was
a
significant
consultation
theme
for
this
project.
There
are
currently
122
on
street
parking
spaces
on
algún
Street
between
Laurier
Avenue
and
Catherine
Street.
A
recommended
plan
reduces
that
to
90
spaces,
with
83
being
programmable
flex
spaces
directly
on
Elgon
Street,
with
seven
additional
spaces
on
adjacent
street
corners.
D
D
The
recommended
plan
for
Waverly
includes
six
flex
parking
spaces
tree
plantings,
seeing
opportunities
to
enhance
the
public
realm.
This
is
to
improve
linkages
between
Elgin
Street
in
Jack,
Purcell
Park
and
is
to
create
a
new
public
space
for
the
neighborhood,
while
continuing
to
maintain
vehicle
mobility,
circulation
and
parking
Hawthorne
Avenue
today,
west
of
Main
Street
is
a
four
lane
road
with
1.5
meter
sidewalks.
D
It
currently
has
28
on
street
parking
spaces
that
are
available
during
off-peak
times
only,
and
it
is
also
designated
as
a
traditional
Main
Street,
with
a
mix
of
residential
and
business
uses,
including
a
small
linear
Park.
On
the
north
side,
the
recommended
plan
for
Hawthorne
Avenue
includes
a
three
lane
cross
section
with
two
east
bound
vehicle
lanes,
and
one
westbound
lane
14
on
street
parking
spaces
would
be
retained
on
the
south
side
for
use
during
off-peak
times.
D
The
south
side
curb
Lane
would
continue
to
be
used
as
a
travel
lane
during
peak
times,
and
it
would
be
more
than
the
4
meters
wide
to
accommodate,
side-by-side,
shared
use
with
cyclists.
The
sidewalks
are
recommended
to
be
3
metres
wide
on
the
south
side
and
2
metres
wide
and
the
north
side
of
the
street
and
a
westbound
buffered
bike.
Lane
is
also
recommended.
D
The
next
steps
for
this
project
upon
approval
by
City
Council,
would
be
to
initiate
the
detailed
design
phase
for
the
functional
plan
and
is
described
in
the
staff
report.
That
work
will
also
include
the
development
of
a
construction
phasing
plan,
a
communications
plan
in
the
traffic
management
plan,
which
will
highlight
the
required
traffic
detours
and
parking
opportunities
associated
with
the
construction
phase
and
city
staff,
will
continue
to
consult
with
the
working
group
members,
businesses
and
community
stakeholders
through
these
next
steps
and
beyond.
And
that
concludes
the
formal
presentation.
Thank
you.
A
A
The
various
members
of
council,
where
a
committee
to
do
is
to
introduce
introduce
their
motions
so
before
we
go
to
the
public
delegations
and
before
we
go
to
questions
to
staff
everybody's
on
the
same
on
the
same
page,
I
will
point
out
that
and
I'm
reporting
part
of
the
interview.
But
last
night
one
of
the
business
owners
along
elegan
Street
was
interviewed
on
CTV
and
said,
but
but
yeah
the
one-year
is
a
home
run.
A
So
I
see
that
as
a
very
positive
statement
from
the
business
groups
and
we're
going
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
I
think
from
the
business
groups
here
this
morning,
and
they
were
one
of
the
key
stakeholders,
of
course,
along
with
the
residents,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
councillor
Manette.
First
of
all,
he
is
a
motion
related
to
parking
over
the
over
the
construction
period.
E
Mr.
chair,
the
motion
is
very
well
self-explanatory,
whereas
on
street
parking
along
Yonge
Street,
when
we
temporarily
remove
during
Reconstruction
in
the
street-
and
we
are
so
against
Street
business
owners
have
indicated
that
their
customers
who
come
from
across
the
city
will
need
access
to
nearby
parking
during
construction,
therefore
resolved
that
staff
were
to
provide
opportunities
for
additional
temporary
parking
within
close
vicinity
of
the
street
during
Reconstruction
to
the
general
manager.
E
Public,
Works
and
environmental
environment
services
be
delegating
the
authority
during
the
time
construction
which,
in
destiny,
dates
and
times
when
parking
at
SUNY,
Albany,
free
of
charge
and
tree
staff
work
with
the
mostess
owners
or
Meghan
Street
during
the
Reconstruction
period
to
coordinate
advertising
and
the
opportunities
from
temporary
and
for
free
public
parking.
Thank.
F
You
mr.
chair,
this
is
a
technical
motion.
Moving
on
behalf,
the
chair
as
the
algún
Street
design
incorporates
flexible
space
that
can
be
used
in
different
function
as
the
number
of
parking
spaces
have
been
reduced.
This
redesign,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
90
Festivus
parking
spaces
be
designed
for
the
purpose
of
parking
and
patio
use.
Only
thank.
G
Therefore
be
it
resolved
that
applications
for
the
renewal
of
permits
administered
through
the
right-of-way
patio
by
law
on
Alden
Street
are
subject
to
the
provisions
of
the
new
right-of-way
patio
bylaw,
except
for
the
requirements
regarding
the
accessibility,
design,
standards
and
pedestrian
clearway,
which
such
requirements
are
deferred
until
the
reconstruction
of
the
pedestrian
elements
of
the
project.
Adjacent
to
the
existing
patios
are
complete.
A
G
Thank
you
chair
in
relation
to
the
implementation
of
the
reconstruction
of
Elgin
Street,
that
staff
be
directed
to
complete
the
heavy
construction
related
to
the
replacement
of
underground
infrastructure
in
a
12-month
period,
ieave.
First,
lift
of
asphalt
and
Road
and
service
the
second
year
of
construction
to
have
the
road
in
service
with
parking
available.
G
With
a
temporary
surface
meeting
accessibility
requirements,
all
those
sections
will
be
affected
by
rotating
construction
activities
in
the
corridor
during
detailed
design
staff
to
work
with
the
EAB,
a
other
local
stakeholders
and
local
residents
to
see
whether
there
are
periods
of
time,
for
example,
the
Ottawa
race
weekend
army
run
when
we
need
to
ask
the
contractor
to
pause
construction
of
portions
of
the
corridor.
So
that
is
not
disruptive
to
the
events,
even
though
the
corridor
being
closed
during
construction
staff
to
work
to
keep
some
cross
streets
open.
A
H
Us
is
that
something
worked
on
with
with
council
harder
and
number
of
other
councillors
well,
including
councillors,
Taylor
councillor
bleh,
just
regarding
the
construction
period
and
getting
it
out
of
the
core
as
there's
a
number
of
projects
going
on
at
the
same
time.
So,
whereas
all
construes
important
transportation,
residential
and
commercial
hub
in
the
downtown
core.
H
Whereas
members
of
council
wants
to
ensure
that
the
mitigation
strategies
related
to
held
in
the
street
and
Hawthorne
have
any
reconstruction
incorporate
a
broader
understanding
of
construction
area,
the
full
range
of
childhood
manager
tools
that
could
be
employed
to
assist
with
pedestrian
cycling,
vehicle,
auto
transit
movement
during
construction,
as
well
as
the
multimodal
impacts
that
each
initiative
and
an
appreciation
that
some
may
need
to
be
changed
quickly
if
they
are
not
working
as
intended.
And
whereas
communication
will
be
key
to
the
success
of
a
traffic
management
plan
for
this
project.
H
The
members
of
council
all
that
residents
that
will
be
affected
for
the
duration
of
this
destruction
period
therefore
be
resolved.
The
Transportation
Committee
recommend
that
city
council
direct
staff
to
develop
a
comprehensive
traffic
management
plan
for
the
elevated
street
in
Hawthorne
Avenue
reconstruction
project,
as
well
as
a
detailed
communications
plan,
as
described
in
this
motion
and
in
consultation
with
members
of
council
Thank.
A
You
councillor
so,
as
I
indicated
at
the
beginning,
a
great
deal
of
work
has
gone
on
in
the
last
number
of
weeks
with
variety
of
stakeholders.
Committee
members,
council,
members
and
this
direction
and
the
various
motions
reflect
that
work
and
again
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
participated
in
those
discussions
and
provided
input
and
before
we
move
to
the
delegations.
I
also
want
to
confirm
that
the
various
motions
that
have
been
put
forward
this
morning
and
his
chi,
they
all
staff
supported,
are
they?
A
A
I
Good
morning
the
environmental
stewardship
Advisory
Committee
would
like
to
thank
city
staff
for
available
Street
and
Hawthorne
Avenue
functional
design,
study.
Elgon
Street
has
a
once
and
a
lifetime
opportunity
to
become
an
amazing
main
street,
a
destination
street
and
not
just
a
thoroughfare
for
commuter
traffic
harms
more
former
president
of
citizens
for
safe
cycling
in
his
urban
blogger
website,
said,
destination
streets
should
be
complete
streets
and
serve
all
kinds
of
traffic,
particularly
pedestrians,
who
should
be
able
to
walk
along
freely
without
having
to
be
afraid
for
their
lives.
I
Unfortunately,
this
morning
walking
up
Malcolm,
Street
I
noticed
lots
of
police
cars
and
I
believe
a
pedestrian
might
have
been
hit.
So
it's
it's
not
safe.
At
the
moment
we
are
doing
the
sidewalks
planting
trees
and
lowering
the
speed
limit
to
40
km/h
will
make
it
much
more
pleasant
for
people
to
walk,
sharp
and
enjoy
the
cafes,
restaurants
and
bars,
but
algún
Street
becomes
Street
like
the
one
posted
in
Hans
photo.
I
I
Those
who
use
other
methods
of
transportation
and
QV
spend
more
per
capita
at
local
businesses.
Shoppers
often
indicate
additional
enhancements
were
made
to
the
street
environment,
such
as
reducing
the
volume
of
traffic
or
car
new
traffic
speeds,
expanding
space
for
pedestrians
or
a
bicycle
infrastructure.
I
Were
transformed
from
unwelcoming
traffic
dominated
corridors
which
seems
to
be
on
the
street,
you
know
safer,
more
attractive
public
spaces
that
better
accommodate
all
users.
Our
tears
have
been
transformed
into
Complete
Streets,
creating
a
more
comfortable
and
enjoyable
public.
Realm
could
potentially
result
in
people
patronizing
local
businesses
more
than
they
otherwise
would.
I
Experience
is
showing
that
in
many
instances,
business
owners
are
apprehensive
of
changes
to
streets
that
are
perceived
to
benefit
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
while
reducing
convenience
for
drivers,
based
on
the
belief
that
providing
easy
access
for
motorists
into
their
business
district,
along
with
ample
nearby
parking,
is
critical
to
their
store.
Success
results
from
surveys
of
shoppers
in
urban
shopping
districts
suggests
that
this
floor
is
a
large
part
unfounded.
Similarly,
multiple
surveys
condemned
laughter.
These
types
of
changes.
A
H
A
J
Well,
there's
many
of
you
know
where
I
operate,
MacLaren's
on
Alden
and
the
business
in
I
also
have
my
law
practice
in
that
property
and
I
own
the
property
and
I've
been
there
since
the
early,
1980s
and
I'm.
Also,
president
of
the
ordinary
business
association,
which
involves
the
property
owners
in
the
businesses
on
Elgon.
Oh
hi
Brian,
so
you
interrupt
but
I'm
getting.
A
J
Basically,
we
live
on
the
street
24/7
I
like
to
say
that
debate
is
an
exchange
of
intelligence
and
argument
is
an
exchange
of
ignorance
and
we
kept
the
discussion
to
debate
throughout.
We
now
have
to
get
down
to
the
detail
and
the
implementation,
and
hopefully
that
will
proceed
as
well
over
the
next
two
to
three
years.
J
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
members,
in
fact
all
counselors
and
all
staff
for
working
positively
on
this,
regardless
of
what
side
of
the
issue
they
were
on
and
similarly
I
want
to
thank
the
property
owners
and
businesses
in
Ogden
Street,
who
did
the
same
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
which
indicates
their
commitment
and
level
of
interest,
in
particular,
I
think
I
have
to
mention
sherry-glazed
efforts
and
the
efforts
of
mr.
Ellis
and
mr.
McCarney
and
the
local
councillor.
So
thank
you.
J
K
Okay,
thanks
for
coming
up,
Bryan
and
I,
think
everyone
knows
you're
kind
of
like
the
Godfather
of
algún
Street.
If
there's
no
BIA
there
I
think
some
of
the
questions
I
have
are
pretty
simple
a
couple
of
months
ago.
A
lot
of
the
owners
and
restaurants
very
upset
with
the
initial
proposal
by
the
city,
and
it
seems
like
we've,
had
multitude
of
motions
come
forward
today,
directions
to
staff.
Can
you
highlight?
Ladies
last
week,
I
spoke
to
some
bar
owners
that
were
still
concerned.
J
The
businesses
are
now
the
street
as
the
mix
of
businesses
in
Elkin
street.
So
then,
let
me
be
specific.
I'll
give
you
one
or
two
examples:
one
is
the
pharmacy,
it's
the
oldest
independent
pharmacy,
and
this
is
white
cross
pharmacy
in
the
city.
It's
been
there
since
1984,
and
they
found
me
that
owns
the
pharmacy
also
owns
the
walk-in
clinic
next
door
also
owns
the
property,
no
question.
J
If
those
customers
go
to
another
establishment
for
three
years
or
two
years,
it's
fairly
unlikely
that
they're
going
to
come
back
realistically,
the
underground
services
have
to
be
repaired
and
renewed
and
there's
gonna
be
pain.
The
issue
is,
can
we
minimize
that
plane
and
save
the
businesses?
The
one-year
suggestion
was
a
suggestion
from
the
pharmacy.
J
They
feel
they
can
get
by
with
one
year
they
can
salvage
their
business
and
their
employees
with
one
year
so
the
one
year,
I
guess
was
a
watershed
moment
in
terms
of
positive
discussion,
and
it
will
allow
us
in
many
cases
to
not
only
save
the
business
but
in
particular
say
the
mix
of
businesses.
That
makes
a
difference
on
that
Street.
One
of
the
speakers
earlier
talked
about
North
America,
what's
happening
in
North
America,
it's
in
the
staff
report.
Our
belief
is
what's
happening
in
North
America
or
even
in
places
like
st.
J
Catherine,
Street,
Montreal
or
Yonge
Street
in
Toronto.
There
no
relationship
to
what
happens
on
Elgin
Street
in
Ottawa.
There
are
truly
local
businesses
that
have
been
there
for
generations.
Interesting
statistic
from
master
house:
the
Catherine
Street,
the
only
piece
of
property.
That's
in
institutionally
owned
is
the
trunk
Dominion
Bank
at
Summer
Street.
Every
other
property
is
owned
by
a
local
family
and
has
been
owned
for
anywhere
from
two
to
five
generations.
So
it's
a
unique
situation
where
families
are
concerned
about
the
continuity
of
the
business.
K
A
J
K
C
A
B
Want
to
understand
what
the
Pretoria
bridge
the
changes
on
the
pictorial
page
are
going
to
look
like,
because
you
talked
about
Elgon
and
Hawthorne
and
I
know,
because
that's
actually
my
route
is
the
Pretoria
bridge
right
now.
There's
four
lanes
on
that
bridge.
Were
there
continued
to
be
four
lanes
on
the
bridge.
B
There
is
no
change
to
Pretoria
Bridge
this
day,
as
is
okay,
perfect,
because
that
concerned
me
because
I
find
that
bridge
challenging
at
the
best
of
times
because
of
the
cycling
lane
there
and
I
always
feel
that
it's
difficult
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
this
has
been
an
interesting
file
for
me,
because
then
you
know:
I've
gone
to
a
lot
of
conferences
on
New,
Urbanism
and
Complete.
Streets
and
I
really
believe
the
principles
in
all
of
that.
B
B
Don't
know
how
much
we've
lost,
but
my
sense
is
it's:
it's
adding
up
to
something
significant,
so
I
guess
my
question
is
just
how
do
you
address
the
capacity
issue
for
commute
north-south
commuters?
While
you
continue
to
remove
automobile
capacity
in
that
direction?
Mr.
chair
for
Elkin
Street
itself.
We
did
to
undertake
the
traffic
analysis
and
there
will
be
capacity,
there's
still
capacity
for
it
to
function
as
an
arterial.
Road
travel
ties
will
be
increased
by
a
little
bit
less
mr.
sumption
Simpson
had
mentioned
one
to
one
and
a
half
minutes
in
the
peak
direction.
B
B
Each
mode
and
we
look
at
the
spring
lines,
how
they
come
through
and
the
downtown
areas
taken
as
a
whole,
so
there's
capacity
there
to
continue
to
have
accommodate
vehicles,
but
again
it's
the
downtown
and
we
are
growing
with
intensification.
So,
as
with
every
major
cities,
successful
major
city,
their
downtown's
will
see
other
modes
levels
being
increasing
and
and
the
car
traffic
is
still
there,
but
the
travel
times
may
be
slower
for
therefore
vehicles.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
I
just
want
to
say
congratulations
to
the
word
councillor
in
the
chair
and
the
staff
and
the
Elgon
businesses
who
really
I
think
work
together
on
this
project,
to
bring
it
to
something
where
everyone
can
buy
into
it
and
I
think
that
is,
you
know
you
ought
to
be
saluted
for
that,
because
you
know
this
is
this
is
difficult
and
I
just
learned.
One
of
the
question
is:
how
realistic
is
it
to
get
that
construction?
B
L
L
We
have
we
have
a
couple
of
major
pieces
of
infrastructure
that
need
to
be
excavated,
they
were
placed,
and
that
is
that
the
bulk
of
the
heavy
construction,
the
deep
stormwater,
the
deeps
sewer
and
the
local
water
mains,
that
work
will
be
done
quickly
within
the
first
year.
You
know
as
soon
as
we
can
get
in
get
the
construction
season.
L
M
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
feeling
just
a
tiny
bit
like
the
orphan
and
there's
a
project
remembering
that
Hawthorne
is
in
capital
ward,
which
is
part
of
this.
But
I
can
remember
that
I've
been
at
the
center
of
the
attention
for
enough
of
major
renewal
projects
for
maybe
a
lifetime
in
the
past
six
years.
So
that's
okay,
but
I
do
want
to
remember
that.
M
The
actual
crossing
of
criminal
by
drive
on
Hawthorne
continue
to
be
somewhat
challenging.
Because
of
all
that
interaction
is
there
anything
that
you
can
highlight
that
is
being
done
or
might
still
be
done
to
provide,
provide
greater
security
and
and
and
I
suppose,
predictability
and
in
types
of
movements
in
those
areas.
D
There
is
an
additional
infrastructure
renewal
project
that
were
currently
scoping
for
renewing
greenfield,
as
well
as
the
north
end
of
Main
Street
north
of
the
Queensway.
That
project
also
includes
looking
at
the
intersection
of
colonel
bye
and
Main
Street,
as
well
as
Colonel,
bye
and
Hawthorne.
It
also
includes
looking
at
improving
the
cycling
connections
from
Pretoria
Bridge
down
colonel
by
and
on
to
Graham,
which
is
the
the
main
cycling
route
through
there.
So
through
another
project,
those
those
concerns
are
being
met.
D
M
On
the
one
side,
I'd
say
the
more
concerning
one
is
that
area
between
the
Queensway
and
a
bridge
when
you
passed
under
the
Queensway
on
Elgon,
where
you've
got
cars
coming
from
the
Loblaws
area,
you've
got
cars
wanting
to
exit
to
the
right
on
to
Queen
Elizabeth
drive
away
or
go
straight
on
Pretoria.
Is
there
anything
in
that
interaction
at
a
minimum,
you're
marking
of
demarcation
of
lanes
and
we're
crossing
over
can
should
occur
and
should
not
any
opportunity
to
create
raised.
D
Although
that
section
of
Pretoria
bridge
is
out
of
scope
for
this
particular
project,
we'll
take
that
as
direction
to
work
with
you
to
look
at
all
of
all
of
those
elements
and
see
what
can
be
done
in
the
future.
But
that
section
of
Victoria
that
you're
speaking
to
is
not
on
the
immediate
renewal
list.
Mm-Hmm.
M
That
is
a
very
busy
area,
so
any
opportunity
we
have
to
do
that
and
I
know
there's
an
NCC
jurisdiction
in
there.
That's
quite
important
as
well.
So
please
do
look
at
that.
I
guess
I
just
want
to
confirm
some
numbers,
I
think
are
quite
important.
The
overall
area
parking
numbers
are
extremely
high
and
you
have
in
this
report,
but
maybe
you
can
remind
me
remind
us
what
what
that
loss
of
what
about
30
on
street
spots
represents
in
the
overall
scheme
of
available
parking
in
the
area.
M
M
It's
rarely
available
to
your
client
that
wanted
to
park
right
in
front
of
your
door
anyway,
but
it's
the
overall
picture
that
matters
so
much
and
I
think
it's
very
important
to
note
that
there
is
plenty
of
available
parking
in
the
area.
Although
that
will
represent
a
change
for
some
people
to
understand,
they
might
look
a
little
differently,
but
also
there's
an
actual
increase
in
available
parking
during
rush
hour,
because
right
now
there
is
no
parking
available
during
rush
hour
and
there
will
be
permanent
parking
available
during
rush
hour.
M
So
it's
90
will
be
permanently
available
that
otherwise
it
would
have
been
removed
from
remove
during
the
rush
hours.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
to
highlight
in
summing
up.
I
am
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
change.
There
were
various
alternatives.
Tweaks
that
could
have
been
made
might
still
be
made,
but
I
recognize
that
there
are
many
different
users,
many
different
needs
here
and
ultimately
it
was
going
to
be
a
compromise
for
everyone,
and
I
want
to
highlight
that
Main
Street,
which
underwent
a
significant
change.
M
If
we
were
off-peak
and
the
parking
was
there,
you
would
literally
clog
all
traffic
flow
on
Main
Street,
even
though
it's
was
ostensibly
a
falling
and
now
with
the
turning
lanes
that
were
entered
that
have
been
introduced
and,
as
we
are
going
to
see
here
on,
Elgin
we're
actually
seeing
better
flow
at
all
times
of
day
than
when
this
was
a
much
wider
and
supposedly
had
more
capacity.
So
I
think
that's
something
we
can
anticipate
here
at
El,
Camino,
but
I.
Think
it's
really
positive.
M
We
hear
about
placemaking
and
its
importance.
Council
games
referred
to
conferences,
she's
been
at
and
and
urbanism,
and
how
studies
all
over
the
world
are
showing
that
the
importance
to
the
success
of
streets
is
around
having
a
street
environment
where
people
want
to
come,
they
want
to
linger,
they
want
to
tell
their
friends
hey
it's
a
great
place
to
visit,
and
that's
what
I
believe
that
this
street
is
going
to
not
reintroduce,
because
Elkin
already
has
some
of
those
attributes
that
particularly
particularly
highlight
so
summing
up,
because
the
beefer
is
gone
on
me.
M
I
think
this
is
an
excellent
series
of
compromises.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
different
players.
They
were.
You
know
many
constituents
as
well
as
businesses
and
different
interest
groups
that
had
expertise
to
offer
and
especially
to
staff
and
the
consultants
who
went
through
more
meetings
and
more
problem-solving
than
is
typical
on
a
redesign
like
this.
So
thank
you
to
you.
Thank.
F
Massoud,
please
down
I,
want
to
stop
for
a
couple
of
questions,
but
I
want
to
begin
by.
You
know
thanking
everyone.
I
think
it
was
when
you
get
a
situation
where
everyone's
happy,
but
everyone
would
like
to
see
a
bit
more.
It's
usually
a
comfortable
position
where
o'seas
not
super
happy.
You
cyclists,
I'm
super
happy.
Pedestrians
are
super
happy
business,
I'm
super
happy
residents
are
super
happy
and
vice
versa.
Everyone's
a
bit
happy
so
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
compromise,
filling
to
the
N
and
I.
Certainly
I.
F
Think
noggin
plays
an
important
role
in
connecting
to
important
iconic
elements
of
our
city,
but
also,
obviously,
the
connection
to
City.
Hall
I
want
to
hear
from
you
on
the
discussion
relating
to
the
hydro
poles,
because
I
think
that's
one
Main
Street
was
unable
to
get
the
hydropower
bellary's
reto.
D
Preliminary
estimate
to
bury
the
hydro
poles
is
ten
million
dollars,
and
currently
those
funds
are
not
available.
Our
city
of
ottawa,
undergrounding
policy
speaks
to
having
a
third
party
pay
for
the
undergrounding
and
that's
typically
a
developer
or
a
Business
Improvement
Association,
and
we
have
neither
of
those
in
the
situation.
So
that's
the
situation
that
we're
in
today.
F
B
F
I
appreciate
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
complexities
around
who
pays
for
that,
but
I
think
it
was
a
an
effort
we
could.
We
could
at
least
set
the
groundwork
which
is
sending
out
that
duct
line.
If
we
had
as
part
of
the
construction,
if
we
will
establish
the
deck
line,
then
individual
property
owners
or
businesses
could
connect
and
and
then
it
creates
that
incentive,
because
right
now
it's
like
it's
a
bit
of
a
pre
news.
First
kind
of
game
right
and
it'd
be
interesting.
F
E
You
sure
the
counts
are
just
some
cautionary
notes
on
that
train
of
thought.
I
did
speak
to
CEO
of
I
thought
in
regard
in
terms
of
what
the
art
of
the
possibility
is
and
why
you
may
want
to
draw
up
some
duct
banks,
while
you're
going
down
doing
construction,
that
that
really
doesn't
give
you
a
lot
what
they
need
and
I
just
caution:
everybody
on
the
ten
million.
That
is
a
that's
a
ballpark
estimate.
E
They
would
need
to
go
to
detail
design
to
even
go
down
the
road
that
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
what
that
will
give
anybody
and
then
the
complexity
of
all
the
individual
connections
and
so
forth.
So
the
cap,
the
cost
we'll
just
keep
mounting,
is,
is
what
I
want
to
say
and
and
share
with
you
that
I'm
not
sure
we
want
to
go
down
that
path,
because
it
really
won't
give
you
much
other
than
a
bunch
of
empty
duct
banks
for
fifty
sixty
years
down
the
road.
E
When
you
reopen
the
street
up
so
I
doubt
you're
gonna
want
to
come
back
in
five
years
and
open
up
the
street
and
so
forth
so
I
when
I
spoke
to
Hydra
Ottawa,
the
CEO.
He
did
want
me
to
emphasize
be
very
careful
about
going
down
a
certain
path
of
what
is
possible,
not
possible
it's
old
infrastructure
and
you
need
to
do
a
detailed
design
to
give
you
a
meaningful
answer
to
your
question.
E
F
It's
a
question
of
dollars:
it's
just
you
know.
We
just
had
a
report
and
we
approve
the
report
on
complete
streets.
The
follow
up
and
I
think
we
we've
seen
a
shift
in
and
around
city
departments,
around
understanding,
complete
streets,
the
relationship
to
complete
streets.
But
if
there's
one
group
that
doesn't
understand
complete
streets,
this
is
no
offense
to
hydro,
because
a
stand
alone
organization,
but
that
pole
on
the
sidewalk
becomes
sixty
centimeters
of
issues
to
pedestrian
into
businesses
for
patios
and
so
on.
F
So
I
think
you
know
that
sixty
meters
is
becoming
more
and
more
precious.
So
to
me
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
missed
opportunity
because
we're
not
touching
the
street.
The
we
have.
The
in
the
report
says
CEO
that
I
thought
it
was
read.
Oh
but
I
guess
Fritos
redone,
so
reto
can't
be
the
oldest
pipes.
It's
now
Allegan,
that's
the
oldest
pipes
in
the
city.
So
you
know
we're
not
doing
these
pipes
in
a
long
time.
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here
to
to
at
least
explore
I
recognize,
there's
a
cost
element.
F
I
just
think
that
hydro
doesn't
get
the
picture
of
complete
streets
and
the
sidewalk
space,
and
so
on.
They
just
view
electricity
to
business
or
to
to
user,
and
in
my
mind
you
know
they
might
be
a
partner
in
this.
They
might
see
the
value
over
time,
because
you
know
it's
the
who
moves
first
kind
of
portion,
so
it'd
be
nice
for
us
to
have
at
least
a
figure
of
what
establishing
the
ductwork
not
no
connection
a
head
of
a
head
of
council.
So
thanks.
A
For
that
cancer
I
think
mr.
Marconi
has
made
it
clear.
They
can't
do
that
for
you.
It
would
take
detailed
design
work
to
give
you
that
number
and
and
I
think
in
terms
of
talking
to
hydro
about
being
a
partner.
I
think
that
mr.
Marconi
has
already
engaged
them
a
number
of
times
on
this
on
this
issue,
and
the
answer
has
been
it's
going
to
cost
you
at
least
ten
million
dollars,
and
not
that's
a
conservative
figure.
A
I
can
point
out
that
and
in
the
report
it's
indicated
staff
is
going
to
do
everything
they
can
to
move
those
poles
out
of
out
of
the
right-of-way.
So
the
poles
are
not
going
underground,
but
they
will
be
moved
as
construction
goes
on,
to
take
them
out
of
the
main
thoroughfare
to
take
them
out
of
people's
ways.
So
we're
going
to
be
doing
everything
we
can
within
our
within
our
mandate
and
within
our
dollars
to
deal
with
the
poles,
but
the
the
bearing
of
the
actual
poles
is
is
a
much
bigger
discussion.
A
It's
it's
also
discussion
with
each
of
the
individual
businesses.
I
think.
The
estimate
that
we
heard
to
do
connections
would
be
something
in
the
area
of
$50,000
per
business
that
the
businesses
would
have
to
take
out
of
their
pockets
to
make
those
new
connections
so
there's
the
city
cost,
but
there's
also
the
cost
to
the
individual
property
owners
as
well.
That
has
to
be
taken
into
account.
Yeah.
F
I
mean
mr.
chair
on
this
agree
to
disagree.
I
think
that
you
know
we
are
the
capital
city
organism
a
very
important
street
in
that
regards,
and
you
know
to
me
what
what
this,
even
if
they
standardized
the
poll
sixty
centimeters
from
the
curb,
which
is
it's
still
in
the
right
of
way,
that's
basically,
a
meter
lost
off
the
sidewalk
so
and.
H
It
would
be
more
than
ten
million
dollars
because
you're
also,
probably
gonna,
have
to
repay
everyone
in
Kanata
North,
who
paid
to
have
their
wires
buried
through
a
special
area
levy
yeah.
So
if
you
want
to
change
policy,
you
have
to
realize
what
kind
of
policy
you're
changing,
not
to
mention
every
other
community
that
wants
this
done
for
comment.
No.
F
It
is
a
fair
comment,
just
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
don't
twist
my
words
I'm,
not
looking
for
the
ten
million
dollar
plan
I'm,
just
looking.
What
is
the
cost
of
establishing
the
ductwork
along
the
corridor?
No
connections
to
businesses,
just
the
ductwork
as
part
of
the
construction
I,
think
practically
that's
a
very
easy
thing,
we're
doing
everywhere
along
the
road.
You
establish
a
deck
as
you,
we
establish
your
curb
cut
and
your
sidewalk
edge
you
put
in
the
the
right
deck
work.
A
Well,
I
think
that's
fine
I'll
put
you
back
on
the
list,
but
again
I.
Think
staff
made
it
clear:
it's
not
as
simple
as
simply
digging
a
hole.
They'd
have
to
be
detailed
design,
work
done
and
and
additionally,
without
any
buy-in
from
hydro
or
another
funding
source,
it
would
mean
coming
back-
and
you
know,
reopening
the
road
five
or
ten
years
from
now
to
take
advantage
of
the
work
that
you've
done,
which
I
think
a
the
businesses
wouldn't
be
thrilled
about
and
and
be
I.
A
K
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
and
again
it's
great
to
see
so
many
and
direction
to
staff
that
have
come
forward
today.
I
think
that's
gonna
help
some
of
the
items
I
still
have
a
lot
of
questions
only
see
some
of
these
motions
today,
but
some
that
came
to
mind
for
staff
are
first
of
all,
and
I've
mentioned
this
before
right
now.
K
If
you
go
into
Eldon
street
between
1:30
and
2:00,
on
Thursday
and
Friday
and
Saturday,
it's
like
a
swarm
of
bees,
people
floating
out
of
PARs
they're,
looking
for
cabs
or
ubers
right
now,
cabs
new
roads
are
using
loading
zones
in
the
space
that's
available
on
the
street.
Have
you
looked
at
that
and
and
how
we're
going
to
accommodate
that?
K
Because
right
now,
I'm
looking
at
at
the
design
and
there's
some
great
stuff
north
of
Waverly,
there's
I
see
a
lot
of
parking
and
if
you
can
convert
that
to
flex
that
might
work,
but
we
will
lead
a
Gladstone
to
blocks
where
you
have
lieutenants
and
see
Louise,
and
you
have
a
whole
series
of
bars
that
are
well
occupied.
There's
only
a
combined
seven
parking
spots
and
I.
Don't
even
know
if
those
are
flexible
spots,
so
maybe
you
could
speak
to
that
on
how
we'll
address
those
issues.
B
Chair
there
were
early
morning
hours
as
we
were
speaking
and
we
do
have
loading
zones
identified
in
the
plan
in
in
this
area.
They're,
mostly
restaurants,
there
are
taxi,
stands
as
well.
That
will
be
there.
The
flex
space
can
be
used
if
it's
just
to
pick
up
and
drop
off,
it's
very
quick
and
they
move
on
to
the
corridor.
So
we
feel
that
the
the
taxis
able
to
function
on
this
room.
K
I
think
if
you
use
in
such
spaces
and
you're
saying
user
can
be
taxi
stands
during
certain
hours
or
loading
zones,
it
could
probably
work
I'm
I'm
pretty
concerned
that
the
existing
diagram
unless
has
been
updated,
there's
a
there's,
only
seven
spots
available
between
Waverly
and
Gladstone,
so
I
just
want
to
I'd
lick,
stop
to
come
back
before
council
with
more
of
a
plan
on
what
we're
going
to
tell
people.
You
know
because,
obviously
can't
stop
traffic
in
the
road
there's
no
buses
and
cars
using
those
two
lanes,
so
they
can't
stop
there.
K
What
are
we
gonna
do?
Is
it
gonna
be
working
with
the
bars
saying,
walk
north
and
stay
on
Huggins
Street
until
you
can
get
to
a
spot
where
there's
cabs
or
is
it
going
to
be
the
way
it
is
where
people
are
just
gonna
flood
the
streets
and
grab
whatever
they
can?
So
it's
more
of
direction.
If
you
can
find
a
solution
to
that
before
Council
I.
A
D
Just
like
to
add
that
we
are
adding
to
loading
zones,
so
there'll
be
four
loading
zones
along
the
corridor,
two
of
which
would
be
between
in
the
location
that
you're
talking
about
near
the
park
just
north
of
Gilmore.
There's
loading
zones
on
both
sides
of
the
streets,
as
well
as
a
taxi
zone
there,
and
also
Waverly
the
section
of
way,
really
that
we're
touching
just
west
of
algún
into
the
park.
D
K
I
only
see
seven,
but
in
these
two
block
area,
but
I'll
go
back
with
staff
before
council
and
and
have
a
look
at
this
a
little
deeper
council
Moffitt's.
Moving
motion
that
I
think
is
very
critical.
The
comprehensive
traffic
plan
I
just
want
to
know
how
we're
gonna
be
able
to
add
our
feedback
to
this.
When
would
this
come
to
us
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
our
feedback
as
counselors
representing
many
different
areas
of
the
city?
K
We
know
how
traffic
flows,
not
traffic
experts
by
any
means,
but
there's
some
examples
of
whether
it's
power
or
bicycle
that,
hopefully
we
can
find
to
to
fix
things.
This
could
be
a
good
opportunity,
a
couple
of
quick
examples,
removing
some
of
the
east-west
barriers
on
streets
like
Gloucester
or
looking
apps,
even
right
here
on
lawyer
when
you're
pulling
to
the
parking
garage.
I
know
it's
just
off
of
algún,
but
if
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
and
congestion
fights
between
pedestrians,
cyclists
trying
to
get
in
this
parking
garage
and
a
box
of
traffic.
A
So
I'm
gonna
ask
mr.
franconi
speak
to
that.
We
as
a
rule,
we
do
not
bring
back
traffic
plans,
we
direct
the
traffic
plans
are
done.
We
don't
bring
them
back
for
for
consideration
and
debate
because,
as
you
rightly
pointed
out,
we
are
not
traffic
engineers
or
traffic
planners
staff
has
direction
a
little
bit
more,
but
you're
quite
right
as
part
of
council
Moffitt's
motion.
There
is
indication
that
staff
will
consult
with
councillors
in
formulating
the
plan.
So
I'm
going
to
let
mr.
Balcones
speak
to
that
piece.
A
E
You
mr.
chair
consul,
what
I
can
offer
is
I
like
to
hear
your
ideas,
so
what
I'm
going
to
propose
is
that
if
you
want
to
input
into
it,
or
you
want
to
hear
the
the
thought
process
on
it,
we
just
send
me
a
fill
Andria
note
and
we'll
sit
down
with
you
and
your
team
and
we'll
brainstorm
your
suggestions
and
build
that
in
Rakta
bring
the
plan
back.
But
we
want
your
input
into
it
and
obviously
we're
going
to
engage
the
community
so
happy
to
work
with
you
in
your
office
on
ideas
and
suggestions.
K
Is
the
opportunity
for
users
to
add
their
feedback
to
it,
which
is
great,
but
will
it
be
circulated
to
all
council
as
we
proceed
with
any
kind
of
changes
or
if
we
do
have
suggestions
and
and
we've
decided
to
make
changes?
Is
this
going
to
be
on
the
floor?
We're
gonna
be
making
the
changes,
or
is
this
gonna
be
one
big
plan
it'll
be
combined
of
all
the
consultation
with
councillors
and
then
it
will
be
presented
or
sorry
executed
by
yourself.
K
E
Be
executed
as
you've
noted
but
I
think
the
flavor
that
you
want,
but
on
it
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Is
that
it's
it's
it's
nothing's
forever
right.
It
can
evolve.
If
we
forgotten
something
we
can
add
to
it,
and
we
all
know
mr.
Landry,
how
are
you
she's
very
open
to
suggestions
and
stuff
and
Miss
Chi
and
her
team
also
so
we'll
make
it
dynamic
and
and
if
there's
things
we've
missed,
everyone
ad
will
do
that.
That's.
K
L
K
Because
we're
taking
wooden
sewers
out
and
I
just
I'm
looking
for
reassurances
that
we're
in
the
budgeting
process.
First
of
all,
is
this
on
the
standard
tax
form,
because
my
understanding
is
if
it
was
blow
the
road
that
be
on
the
other
line.
Item
water
and
sewer
versus
our
standard
tax
base.
Maybe
can
help
me
understand
that,
would
that
be
correct.
K
If
you
can
give
me
the
breakdown
of
the
sewage
component
and
I'm,
hoping
we've
been
very
conservative
in
our
budgeting,
because
wooden
sewers,
in
my
mind,
to
mean
contamination
and
I
assume
if
we
take
out
wooden
sewers,
we'll
would
be
be
bound
by
the
province
to
ensure
that
we
clean
that
land.
Before
we
put
the
sewage
lines
back
in.
K
E
K
And
and
and
if
you
just
wanna,
make
sure
it's
conservative
in
there
to
make
sure
because
I
I
know
how
these
projects
go,
they
find
contamination,
the
costs
Abul
up
very
quickly.
I
just
want
to
chose
budgeted
correctly
when
it
comes
to
Main,
Street
and
Bank
Street
reconstruction
I.
Think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
a
lot
of
great
stuff.
That's
happened,
but
when
you
look
at
Bank
Street,
what
was
the
original
timeline
for
that?
Did
it
did
it?
We
have
creep
on
that.
E
Try
be
the
timelines
that
we
had
for
banks
with
our
very
comparable
to
what
we're
proposing
for
allegan
and
and
yeah.
We
achieve
the
timelines
for
our
bank.
We
had
Bank
fully
closed
for
one
year
and
at
the
end
of
the
one
year
we
had
the
road
reopen
to
base
asphalt.
In
the
second
year
we
came
with
rotation
as
Lane
impacts
to
basically
finished
the
landscaping
and
the
sidewalks
great.
K
E
K
When
those
poles
are
put
new
poles
in
the
current
ones
that
they
all
do
have
like
staples
all
of
them,
they
look
like
hell
in
the
New
World.
Is
there
a
certain
kind
of
boy?
That's
going
to
go
in,
that's
gonna,
prevent
you
know
graffiti
and-
and
you
know,
staples
going
tune
into
these
poles
to
keep
it
clean.
If
we're
going
to
make
the
investments
in
these
poles
I
want
to
make
sure
the
street
looks
good.
So.
E
K
And
last
quick,
two
questions:
mister
mister
chief,
that's
okay
with
you,
I
am
I
noticed
Jack
Purcell
Park
was
was
mentioned
in
there
as
a
possible
area
for
some
parking
and
other
things
is
the
actual
jack
purcell
badminton
park
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
Is
that
going
to
be
affected
at
all?
Or
is
it
just
the
the
driveway
that
goes
into
it?.
K
Great
and
last
question
I
noted
in
the
report:
it
spoke
to
a
tour
ad
la
and
I
think
we
all
live
with
the
a
do,
a
and
a
lot
of
the
regulations
that
the
province
requires
us
as
a
corporation
of
the
province
to
uphold
I
noticed
there
was
four
items:
if
you
had
looked
at
it
just
purely
through
the
you
do
a
lands
not
through
our
city
policy
lens
through
the
other
errands
or
three
could
be
fixed
quite
quickly.
But
then
there
was
one
about
our
own
parking
meter.
K
L
Mr.
chairman
may
I
suggest
we
take
that
issue
specifically
back
and
we'll
look
at
that
issue
before
Council
and
if
it's
a
matter
that
can
be
done
within
the
advanced
works.
My
suspicion
is
that
we
have
to
move
it
out
of
the
for
the
heavy
construction
some.
But
if
there
is
something
we
can
do
during
the
advance
works,
we'll
try
to
figure
that
out
and
we'll
get
it
right.
I'd.
K
C
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
and
first
starting
off
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
officer,
mr.
chair,
as
well
as
city
staff,
in
terms
of
booking
this,
through
in
a
proper
fashion
and
by
proper
fashion,
I
mean
that
you've
done
all
of
the
consultations,
including
the
accessibility,
Advisory
Committee
here
at
the
city
and
I'm,
very
thankful
for
that
conversation
and
some
of
the
changes
or
the
adjustments
that
were
made
to
the
plan
going
forward
or
due
to
the
recommendations,
would
be
excessively
advisory
committee.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
C
In
terms
of
from
couple
of
questions.
From
that
accessibility
point
of
view,
the
the
patios
that
are
currently
existing
and
going
forward
into
you
know
2018
now,
2019
and
I
heard
counselor
McKenna's
motion.
How
is
that
going
to
affect
the
operation
during
construction
run?
The
construction
started
to
begin
in
terms
of
the
accessibility
on
that
street.
C
That
would
also
apply
to
the
parking
on
the
street
because
there
will
be
no
parking
I'm
assuming
during
construction.
So
how
are
we
gonna
handle
the
accessible
parking?
Are
we
going
to
move
that
as
one
of
the
members
of
the
advisory
committee
suggested
to
move
it
on
to
other
side?
Streets
close?
Why
is
that
there.
B
C
So
doing
that
management
plan-
I,
guess
you
wouldn't
come
back
to
the
AAC
in
order
to
consult,
we
could
at
least
comment
on
it.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you
in
terms
are
from
I'm,
looking
at
this
and
I've
seen
other
complete
street
designs
like
Main,
Street
and
others
that
have
been
completed
like
Bank
Street,
it's
no
storage
for
winter,
our
winter.
How
are
you
gonna
handle
that
in
this
particular
street,
with
the
parking
on
the
side
expanded
sidewalks?
There
are
not
narrow
roads,
but
less
lanes
on
traffic.
How
are
we
gonna
handle
that.
E
C
You
mr.
Riley,
currently
the
snow
removal
on
Albert
Street
is
exactly
about
that
usually
a
day
or
day
and
a
half
after
the
snow
is
removed.
With
this
new
format
going
in
in
terms
of
you
know,
cutting
one
lane
of
traffic,
does
that
mean
that
you're
gonna
be
plowing
into
removing
snow
at
the
same
time
or
no?
This
there'll
be
a
delay
of
a
day
or
two,
no.
E
D
F
And
the
chair
was
worried
about
my
comments,
but
I
just
wanted
to
wrap
up
on
the
matter.
I
think
again,
urban
street
is
a
very
important
Street
that
is
not
in
my
area,
but
as
the
councillors
well
aware,
just
like
the
Byward
market,
there's
areas
of
town,
sometimes
where
we're
all
interested,
because
who
else
also
it
contributes
to
to
our
city
but
also
to
the
capital
city,
features
that
we
much
desire.
F
I
wanted
to
first
and
foremost
thank
staff,
and
one
of
the
features
that
that
is
is
is
here
is
that
the
consultations
for
this
process
went
very
well.
They
were
well
attended.
There
was
great
capture
of
the
feedback
from
the
various
stakeholders,
so
for
that
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
read
kudos
to
the
consultants
to
city
staff
and
also
to
those
who
have
participated.
Iii
saw
the
big
crowds
that
we've
got.
The
feedback
tweaks
were
made
following
those
those
recommendations
and
those
ideas,
and
today
I
think
it
is.
F
They
will
continue
to
be
pieces
that
we
all
would
love
to
individually,
see
added
or
changed
I
think
it
is
a
very
strong
plan
and
we're
supporting
our
downtown
streets
about
promoting
a
project
like
elegant
as
I'm
gonna.
Simply
not
a
message
to
keep
you
know
see.
Let
me
see
the
President's
Committee
miss
Frances
authorized
a
formally
colleague
if
you
the,
constitute
a
conversation
that
needs
for
its
needs.
Facet
of
an
Americano
T
messy
I.
N
Thank
You
Sharon,
thank
you
to
staff
and
all
the
stakeholders
that
are
here
and
everyone.
That's
worked
on
this
file
for
the
last.
It's
been
a
year
and
a
bit
now
I
usually
drive
into
work
and
I
Drive
in
about
twenty
two
kilometers
from
Riverside
South,
but
I.
Also
when
I'm
downtown
I'm
a
pedestrian
and
I
walk
everywhere
when
I'm,
downtown
and
I've
seen
those
pinch
points
firsthand
on
elegant
Street,
so
I
think
what
we're
doing
here
is
really.
N
We
have
a
unique
opportunity
with
ripping
up
the
street
and
making
sure
that
that
cross
section
is
much
nicer
than
it
is,
and
I'm
glad
that
you
know
some
of
the
business
people
that
are
here,
including
mr.
comms,
come
a
long
way,
I
think
from
where
he
was
a
few
weeks
ago
and
I
think
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
to
beautify,
elegant
Street
and
make
it
much
nicer
than
it
is
now
make
it
more
friendly
for
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
and
people
in
wheelchairs,
and
improve
the
accessibility
of
that
Street.
N
N
Think
it's
a
unique
opportunity
that
we
get
every
now
and
then
to
really
prove
the
the
infrastructure
in
the
cross-section
of
some
of
these
roads
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
renew
the
infrastructure
underground,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
the
first
one,
a
councillor
Dean's
touched
on
a
bit
and
I
know.
Mr.
OSE
gave
a
a
good
response,
but
you
also
said
it's
an
aggressive
timeline
to
be
working.
What
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
over-promising
and
under-delivering
and
we're
putting
in
our
self
in
that
situation.
N
I
know
just
several
weeks
ago.
This
was
a
two-year
construction
season
project
and
it's
something
that
the
business
people
wanted.
I
fully
supported
to
understand
the
importance
of
getting
it
done
in
12
months
for
the
local
businesses
and
and
all
the
regular
users
of
that
road.
But
are
we
how?
What
are
the
actual
implications
of
that?
Is
there
still
going
to
be
a
lot
of,
for
example,
landscaping
and
soft
infrastructure?
That's
gonna
be
happening
after
the
main
work
that
you
spoke
to,
and
are
you
confident
you
are
saying
you're
aggressive,
its
aggressive
timeline?
A
I
can
jump
in
for
a
second
just
and
the
history
Wars,
but
no,
we
have
had
those
discussions
and
the
businesses
are
aware
that
year
two
will
be
your
one
will
put
down
a
temporary
sidewalk
of
asphalt,
probably
to
get
through
the
winter,
and
then
your
TIA
will
come
in
and
we'll
put
in
the
full
sidewalk.
The
curbs
will
be
up
in
year,
one
though
so
that
mr.
Reyes,
but
in
terms
of
whether
it's
aggressive
or
not
we're
going
to
be
following
the
same
model.
N
L
That
that's
not
correct
mr.
chair.
During
the
first
year
of
construction,
we
will
rip
up.
The
old
whapa
will
put
up
temporary
asphalt
layer
to
maintain
a
sidewalk
throughout
the
entire
construction
period.
Excuse
me,
as
we
and
we'll
do
all
the
heavy
construction
and
in
year
two
after
the
lanes
are
back
open
on
the
the
parking
is
available.
Will
work
block-by-block
rip
up
the
temporary
asphalt
and
put
the
permanent
sidewalk
surface
down
at
that
point
in
time?
L
So
we
keep
the
continuity
of
access
through
the
street
open
throughout
the
time
period
and
when
I
refer
to
an
aggressive
schedule,
it
is,
but
we
have
experience
doing
this
and
I
guess
it's
it's
reasonable
for
me
to
say
that
you
know
we
have
to
be
prepared
for
the
things
that
do
have
set
construction
projects
like
inclement
weather,
and
you
know
shortened
construction
season
because
delayed
Frost
getting
out
of
the
ground
I.
Think
the
businesses
appreciate
that.
L
That's
you
know
we're
going
to
do
it
absolutely
our
best
efforts
and
those
are
things
that
are
beyond
our
control,
but
things
that
are
within
our
control.
We
will
push
this
project
along
because
we
want
to
get
that
portion
complete
and
you
have
the
road
effectively
operating.
While
we
finish
the
more
detailed
elements
off.
N
My
second
question
is,
with
regards
to
the
the
speed
limit
and
I,
see
a
reference
in
there
about
30,
kilometers
and
I.
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
not
a
popular
thing
to
say,
but
I
think
that's
a
little
overkill,
and
so
how
realistic
is
that
in
terms
of
bringing
it
down
to
30
I
mean?
Are
we
realistically
from
a
traffic
perspective?
N
B
Sure
it's
50
now
and
for
for
the
traffic
to
operate
at
the
posted
speed
of
30
and
has
to
be
designed
that
way
and
the
street
is
designed
for
a
slower
speed,
even
with
the
the
side,
the
sidewalks,
the
animation
on
the
street.
It's
a
very
calming
effect
on
the
street
with
that
with
those
features
already.
But
on
top
of
that
we
have
several
raised
intersections.
So
that'll
help
calm
the
traffic
as
well.
So
we
will
achieve
the
30
K
on
the
street.
N
And
I
appreciate
that
the
cross-section
will
be
different,
and
so
drivers
will
automatically
be
in
that
sort
of
comfort
zone
where
they're
not
going
to
be
going
50
or
whatever
they're
going
today,
but
is
is
30.
A
lot,
though,
is
40
not
a
more
reason
from
a
traffic
perspective.
I
don't
know.
Phil
lunge
in
Landry
can
comment
on.
That
is,
is
40
a
more
reasonable
speed
limit
to
put
instead
of
30.
E
Three
mr.
chair
I
think
in
this
case,
where
the
roads
being
designed,
there's
there's
physical
features
that
are
being
put
in
place
to
reduce
those
speeds,
as
well
as
the
interaction
that
you're
going
to
see
in
the
future
in
terms
of
the
pedestrians
that
will
be
traveling
along
the
road,
the
parking,
the
the
width
of
the
road,
it's
all
going
to
lead
to
a
speed
that
it
won't
feel
comfortable
driving
more
than
30
or
35
kilometers
an
hour
Andrew
joy.
E
The
people
are
going
to
be
driving
out
those
speeds
because
enjoy
people
drive
at
what
feel
comfortable.
If
you
do
to
drive
down
the
road
today,
where
you
got
the
you
know,
the
four
lanes
driving
30
is
probably
not
comfortable.
So
that's
why
people
don't
drive
at
that
speed,
but,
as
you
build
the
infrastructure
to
to
support
those
speeds,
then
you'll
see
that
occur,
but.
N
B
N
That's
my
only
reluctance.
Mr.
chair
and
I
know
you've
been
working
long
and
hard
on
this
file
for
the
past
three
more
weeks.
So
I
won't
give
you
more
hard
time
here
today,
but
I
am
a
bit
reluctant
about
how
realistic
that
30
is
I.
Guess
you
know
it's
to
be
seen
and
to
be
determined,
but
if
this
is
what
the
working
group
has
sort
of
settled
on
and
and
supports,
I
think
you
know
will
will
accept
up
today.
N
I'm,
not
sure
how
realistic
it
is
for
us
to
expect
drivers
to
be
going
down
30,
but
I
think
with
the
different
cross
section
that's
coming
into
play.
Obviously
you
know
it
might
be
outside
their
comfort
zone
as
a
driver
to
keep
going
at
40
or
50
or
whatever
they're
driving
today.
So
but
I
was
a
bit
skeptical
about
that
number,
but
anyways.
If
that's
the
the
working
groups,
you
know
decision
I'm,
I
respect
the
work
that
they've
done
over
the
past
year
to
to
arrive
at
it.
G
Thank
You
chair
and
thank
you
to
everyone
here
today,
especially
to
staff
who
I
know
have
worked
tirelessly
on
this
I
think
I
know
many
of
you.
I've
seen
you
hide
from
me
in
the
community
on
a
few
occasions,
I
think
not
wanting
to
bring
up
elegance
Street,
but
it's
been.
It's
been
a
process
that
has
even
surprised
me.
I'll,
be
honest.
The
the
interest
in
Elgin
Street
and
what
you
had
to
do
to
get
where
we
are
today
has
been
both
intense
and
impressive.
G
We
you
know
we
had
a
working
group
where
we
had
residents.
We
had
the
center
town
citizens
community
association
on
it,
who
worked
very
hard.
Obviously,
the
Elgon
Business
Association
worked
very
hard
with
them.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
all
of
you
for
for
the
input
and
where
we've
got
to
today,
people
love
Elgon,
Street,
there's
no
doubt
people
across
the
city,
olá,
velkan,
Street
and
I.
Think
it's
a
testament
to
what's
happened
over
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
or
so
as
as
we
get
to
where
we
are.
G
Today
we
had
an
online
survey
where
we
had
over
a
thousand
responses
back.
We
had
open
houses
where
we
had.
You
know
a
couple
hundred
people
show
up
at
each
one
of
them
and
and
the
reason
that
people
love
elegant
Street
is
because
of
the
businesses
that
are
on
it.
There's
you
know
people
like
to
come
out
to
the
businesses.
G
But
you
know
at
the
same
time
this
is
you
know
when
we,
when
we
look
at
how
we
reapportioned
public
space
in
the
city,
we
have
to
think
about
everyone,
and
it's
this.
This
street
is
also
the
highest
density,
traditional
Main
Street
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
it
it
is
also
situated
right
in
the
middle
of
one
of
the
densest
residential
neighborhoods
in
the
city
there's
a
school
on
it.
There
are
two
parks.
There
are
very
important
businesses.
G
There
are
three
churches
transit
along
all
on
Elvan
Street,
so
you
know
we
also
have
over
seventy
percent
of
residents
who
live
and
work
in
the
downtown
walk
to
work.
So
all
of
these
you
know
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
alguien
and
the
different
users
and
and
what
it
means
to
reconstruct
this
street.
We
have
to
think
about
the
public
good
and
we
have
to
have
that
conversation
about
what
is
really
in
the
pot,
the
public
good
and,
obviously
you
know
it's.
G
We
can't
we
can't
continue
to
build
build
cities
the
way
we
had
in
the
past.
But
what
is
you
know?
What
is
the
way
forward
and
I
I
do
believe
that
today
is
a
win
for
business.
I
do
I
think
that
when
we
had
the
wider
sidewalks
and
when
we
have
that
flex,
space
and
the
businesses
are
able
to
decide
how
that
evolves
through.
You
know
whether
they
use
it
for
patio
space,
how
they
use
their
space
for
patio
space
and
there
just
will
be
more
space
for
them.
G
The
recommendations,
if,
if
accepted
by
committing
council,
are
a
win
for
pedestrians
today
on
Elvin
Street,
you
saw
the
pictures.
Pedestrians
have
got,
the
lowest
level
of
service,
they've
got
a
D,
and
this
will
give
pedestrians
at
a
and
it's
what
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
pedestrians,
there
are
the
most
vulnerable
users
on
the
road.
You
know
we
have
a
school
on
this
road
on
Elgon
Street,
kids
cross
the
street
with
many
vulnerable
users
who
who
use
Elgin's
Street-
and
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
G
It
is
the
right
thing
to
give
pedestrians
the
highest
level
of
service
on
on
Elvin
Street,
the
30
kilometers
an
hour
I
just
like
to
to
talk
about
that
for
a
sec.
It
is
different.
It
is
something
that
you
know
we
haven't
done
before,
but
what
it
does
is
it,
as
as
the
manager
pointed
out
is
mr.
Qi
pointed
out.
It
provides
cyclists
with
a
higher
level
of
service.
G
There's,
no,
you
know
I,
you
know
for
staff
have
not
recommended
cycling
lanes,
but
with
30
kilometres
an
hour.
We
know
that
a
pedestrian
or
cyclist
hit
at
30
kilometres.
An
hour
the
chances
of
fatality
or
something
like
eight
to
ten
percent,
that
takes
a
very
significant
upturn
at
forty
kilometers
at
50,
it's
90
percent.
So
it's
you
know,
we
do
have
I
believe
an
ethical
obligation
to
design
out
of
our
roadways,
catastrophic
injury
and
death
and
I
think
that
that
this
recommendation
will
move
us
there.
So
I
I.
G
Thank
everybody
for
for
the
work
on
this.
The
construction
in
one
year
is
something
that
I
very
strongly
support.
I
always
have
again
I
go
back
to
this
is
a
very
popular
spot
for
residents,
for
visitors
and
and
for
their
businesses
to
to
survive.
The
construction
period.
To
have
that
done
in
one
year
is
something
that
we're
committed
to
were
committed
to
working
with
you
on
and
to
make
sure
that
that
they,
you
know
that
the
effects
are
mitigated
to
to
the
best
that
we
can
so
I.
A
Thank
You
councillor
I
believe
that
this
has
been
one
of
the
most
challenging
files
that
this
committee
has
has
to
has
had
to
deal
with
this
term.
I
can
say
personally
as
chair:
it's
been
a
challenging
file.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
stakeholders.
We
have
business
owners,
we
have
residents,
we
have
kids
going
to
school
and
the
parent
Council
we
have
commuters.
We
have
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
drivers
and
transit
and
everything
all
on
the
street
and
the
overlay
to
that
is
once
we
start
this
construction.
A
There
are
concerns
and
issues
that
arise
from
the
AODA.
The
city's
design
guidelines,
the
city's
Complete
Streets
policy,
our
brand
new
patio
bylaw,
which
we
just
passed
a
few
months
ago,
and
they
create
a
whole
layer
of
issues
and
concerns
and
questions
that
the
report
had
to
deal
with
as
well,
and
this
project
is
very
much
about
change.
Algún
is
one
of
the
oldest
streets
in
the
city.
It
has
not
been
refurbished
or
rehabbed
in
a
very
long
time,
and
so
this
report
is
about
both
managing
and
facilitating.
That
change.
A
There's
no
question:
we
need
to
open
algún
up.
We
need
to
address
the
infrastructure
challenges.
You
know
the
infrastructure
is
100
hundred
and
25
years
old
in
some
cases,
so
we
simply
don't
have
that
opportunity
not
to
do
it,
but
the
opening
up
the
street,
to
my
mind,
also
opens
up
opportunity.
It
opens
up
opportunity
to
fix
algún,
Street
I,
think
the
kindest
word
I
can
use
right
now
for
pedestrians,
and
those
that
are
mobility
challenges
is
Preston
is,
is
the
street
is
unwieldy
and
I
think
that's
being
kind?
A
A
The
design
being
proposed
very
much
addresses
those
pedestrian
issues
and
opens
up
opportunities,
I
think
for
businesses
and
residents
alike.
As
a
court
of
early
this
morning,
one
of
the
businesses
interviewed
on
CTV
last
night
said
it
was
a
home
run.
We
heard
from
from
Peter
Abraham,
who
said
he
was
very
excited
about
the
design
we
heard
from
mr.
Kerem,
who
represents
the
bulk
of
the
the
business.
A
Is
the
majority
of
the
businesses
on
the
street
and
has
done
Yeomans
work
in
reaching
out
to
them
and
having
those
discussions
that
he
is
also
supportive
of
it?
We
don't
embrace
it
now.
This
will
lose
this
opportunity,
we're
not
going
back
to
the
street
for
40
or
50
years,
and
if
we
don't
fix
it
now,
we're
not
fixing
it
for
a
generation.
So
I
don't
think
we
have
a
choice.
We
have
to
embrace
this
opportunity.
A
We
have
to
make
these
changes
and
we
have
to
do
it
with
a
citywide
view
for
all
the
users-
and
there
are
very
many
different
types
of
users
to
not
do
so
again.
I
think
is
completely
unacceptable
for
this
committee
of
four
council
just
to
ignore
the
opportunity
that
we
have
there
so
I
think
the
proposal
before
you
think
staff
did
great
work,
I
think
John,
Mann,
Kony's,
team's
T,
Willis's
team,
Vivi
and
Colin,
and
and
and
our
consultants,
Alan
Gagne.
A
We've
made
it
better
if
we
pass
the
motions
today,
if
we,
if
staff,
accepts
the
directions
given,
we've
made
it
better
and
we
made
it
better
through
working
with
the
working
group
hearing
from
the
businesses
hearing
from
the
residents
hearing
from
the
different
users
and
also
hearing
from
the
outlying
councillors
who
represent
areas
where
people
use
out
Street
to
commute
every
day.
So
we've
put
all
that
into
the
pot,
we
boil
it
all
up
together
and
I.
A
Think
again,
if
we
adopt
the
motions
in
front
of
us
today
and
we
modify
the
report
as
those
motions,
direct
us
or
direct
will
direct
staff
to
do,
and
the
direction
has
already
been
accepted
that
councillor
McKinney
brought
forward.
I
think
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
very
positive
change
in
our
downtown
core.
But
as
as
councilman
Kenny
said,
Allegan
is
the
street.
Everybody
loves.
You
love
it.
A
So
we'll
move
to
the
vote
and
we'll
start
with
the
motions.
The
direction
as
they
say
has
already
been
accepted.
So
council
Manette's
motion
on
the
city
hall
parking
during
the
construction
phase
Kade
will
now
move
to
councillor
flurries
motion
regarding
flex-space,
Carrie
and
councillor.
Excuse
me:
counselor
McKinney's,
motion
on
the
patio
dialogues,
emption
for
2018
Carrie
and
finally,
the
traffic
plan,
a
motion
brought
by
councillor
Moffitt,
really
on
behalf
of
a
number
of
different
councillors
from
the
outlying
roads
Carrie
and
on
the
the
proposal
as
amended
Carrie.
A
A
Pick
up
that
dissent,
okay,
so
there's
a
matter
that
we
have
to
add
on
to
the
list
and
ask
people
to
stay
if
they
can
stay,
because
it's
a
very
important
matter.
It's
very
time-sensitive!
So
is
someone
who
has
been
with
this
committee
for
quite
some
time
who
is
going
to
be
leaving
us
and
and
that's
Rosie.
Our
clerk
rosie
is
going
to
be
retiring,
and
this
is
her
last
meeting
with
us.
A
So
we
have
a
little
something
for
Rosie
and
frankly
everybody
everybody
in
the
room,
I
I.
I
owe
a
big
debt
of
gratitude
to
rosie.
When
I
was
approached
to
take
over
his
chair
transportation
last
term,
I
I
was
a
little
concerned
about
the
challenge
of
it
and
our
deputy
clerk
at
the
time
Leslie
Donnelly
said:
don't
you
worry
Rosie,
we'll
take
care
of
you
and
and
rosie
has
and
Rosie's
trained
me
up,
so
anything
that
I
do
well
is
to
chair
this
committee.
I
have
to
thank
Rosie
for
that.
F
A
Clerk's
busy
right
now
and
I
know
I'm
breaking
protocol
Rosie,
because
I
didn't
tell
you
as
adding
something
to
the
agenda,
but
I
apologize
for
that
and
we
have
two
cakes.
Yes,
one
is
vanilla
chocolate
because
we
didn't
know
what
Rosie
liked
best,
so
we're
gonna
ask
froz
to
come
down
and
and
do
the
initial
cut
of
the
cake
and
yes
and
we're
German,
but
everybody
in
the
audience
is
welcome
to
a
piece
of
cake.
Thank
you
very
much.
Rosie.