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From YouTube: PSF TC Meeting 7.21.21
Description
Technical Steering Committee Meeting for July 21, 2021
B
Oh
well,
yeah.
Let's
talk
about
drone.
We
can
talk
about
drones
during
the
round
table
part
because
I'd
love
to
hear
some
of
your
guys's
drone
stories.
So
definitely
not
a
tech.
I'm
I'm
up.
B
B
Yeah
I'll
also
check
the
live
stream
for
those
who
are
watching
if
we
are
live.
Just
hang
on
we're
gonna
we're
just
doing
a
little
housekeeping.
B
B
Right
on
okay,
well,
let's
get
this
kicked
off
today
is
wednesday
july
21st
9
a.m.
Pacific
time
I
am
chris
trouttner-
and
this
is
the
permissionless
software
foundation
technical
steering
committee
meeting
we'll
do
a
quick,
a
brief
round
of
introductions.
So
again,
I'm
chris
trouttner.
I
helped
found
the
psf
foundation.
I
maintain
the
fullstack.cash
blockchain
as
a
service
and
which
uses
a
lot
of
the
core
software
maintained
by
the
psf,
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself.
There
story.
A
B
B
Agenda
here
we
go
so
as
we
typically
do
at
these
technical
steering
committee
meetings.
We're
gonna
go
through
the
agenda
real
quick.
This
is
a
basically
a
chance
for
us
to
celebrate
the
the
technical
achievements
we've
made
over
the
last
couple
weeks
and
then,
once
we've
touched
on
those
we'll
just
open
the
floor
to
whatever
current
cool
technical
topic,
we
want
to
talk
about
and
if
you're
watching
on
youtube,
we
have
a
telegram
channel
the
best
way
to
get
there.
B
If
you
scroll
down
to
the
bottom
in
the
footer,
there's
a
link
to
our
telegram
channel
and
we'll
be
maint
we'll
be
monitoring
that
throughout
these
meetings,
if
you
want
to
ask
a
question-
or
let
us
know
about
some
technical
difficulty
in
the
live
stream,
but
to
jump
into
the
agenda,
we
always
start
with
this
psf
core,
which
makes
up
the
bch
api
rest,
api,
vch,
js,
javascript
library
and
then
the
gatsby
ipfs
web
wallet,
which
is
a
gatsby
theme
for
building
a
web
wallet.
B
So
a
few
of
the
updates
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
around
these,
these
core
pieces
of
software
daniel's
been
very
busy
he's,
basically
the
lead
on
the
on
the
maintenance
improvement
of
a
lot
of
these
core
software.
He
pushed
a
big
update
to
bch
wallet
starter.
So
if
you
go
to
fullstack.cache.
B
This
is
what
you'll
see
and
if
you
scroll
down
about
halfway
there
is
this:
what
type
of
developer
ru
section
and
if
you
go
to
the
front
end
you'll,
see
a
video
on
how
to
start
your
own,
how
to
fork,
bch
wallet,
starter
and
create
your
own
web
wallet
and
so
gatsby
just
released
version
three
and
which
was
a
major
change
and
it
broke
a
lot
of
things.
So
both
the
gatsby
theme
and
this
gatsby
starter
has
been
updated
to
work
with
gatsby
version
3.9.
B
There
was
also
a
bug
in
the
paper
wallet
sweeping
plugin.
So
if
you
go
to
wallet.fullstack.cache,
one
of
the
features
on
there
is
that
you
can
send
bitcoin
cash
and
slp
tokens
to
a
paper
wallet
and
then
sweep
them
from
the
paper
wallet,
and
so
that
that
feature
that
lets
you
sweep
the
tokens
from
the
wall.
B
There
was
a
bug
that
I
discovered
and,
and
actually
what
caused
me
to
discover
this
bug
was
flex
usd,
which
is
an
slp
stable
coin
and
one
of
their
things
that
they
do
to
set
them
apart
from
other
stable
coins,
is
that
they
airdrop,
I
don't
know
what
they
call
it
if
it's
dividends
or
interest
or
whatever,
but
they're
constantly
air
dropping
like
little
small
amounts
of
stable
coin
to
the
people
who
hold
the
stable
coin,
and
so
what
this
does
is
it
creates
over
time
it
creates
a
ton
of
utxos,
and
this
is
like
nobody
else
does
it.
B
This
is
a
very
unique
thing,
and
so
the
wallet
was
not
designed
to
handle
this
type
of
corner
case,
and
so,
when
you
try,
if
you
have
a
paper
wallet
that
has
flex
usd
on
it,
it's
constantly
getting
little
u.s
little
stable
coins,
air
dropped
to
it,
and
so
the
wallet
wouldn't
sweep
it.
Because
there's
too
many
utxos
to
deal
with
I'm
hearing
a
little
bit
of
an
echo,
not
sure
where
that's
coming
from
whatever,
but
but
anyway,.
C
I
that
echo
was
me,
checking
your
audio
through
my
phone.
So
sorry,
oh.
B
Okay,
I
just
worked
my
mic,
and
so
now
what
happens
is
if
there's
more
than
five
utxos
on
the
paper
wallet,
it
will
sweep
the
first
five
utxos,
and
so,
if
you
have
in
the
case
where
you
have
something
like
flex
usd
or
or
say
you
have
a
paper
wallet,
and
maybe
you
collect
spice
and
you're,
just
like
constantly
throwing
spice
onto
your
paper
wall
over
time,
this
will
now
work.
You
just
have
to
sweep
it
multiple
times.
B
Every
time
you
sweep
it,
it'll
it'll
pull
down
five
more
utxos,
and
so
you
can
just
keep
doing
that
until
you
get
all
the
utxos
off
of
the
paper
wallet.
So
just
I
I
highly
highly
advocate
paper
wallets,
I
think
they're,
a
great
cold
storage
solution,
they're
a
great
way
to
collect
slp
tokens
by
putting
them
on
a
dedicated
paper
wallet
for
each
slp
token
kind
of
like
trading
baseball
cards
or
the
same
way
you
would
preserve.
You
know,
coins
or
stamps
or
baseball
cards.
B
I
have
a
three-ring
binder
full
of
paper
wallets
and
that's
how
I
store
all
of
my
slp
tokens,
and
so
I
highly
recommend
this.
So
it's
it's
important
to
me
that
that
this
sweeping
functionality
work.
It's
also
one
of
the
the
main
features
that
sets
wallet.fullstack.
I
got
cash
apart
from
other
bitcoin
cash
wallets
out
there.
C
Well-
and
you
also
have
that
video
about
creating
paper
wallets
with
with
3d
printer
with
plastic
cards,
that
is
pretty.
A
C
If
somebody,
if
you're
interested
in
that,
you
should
check
that
out,
I
I
think
you
put
that
out
like
last
november
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
going
to
be
further
down
on
the
list
on
chris's
youtube
channel,
but.
B
There's
actually
a
link
here
in
the
agenda.
If
anybody
wants
a
direct
link
to
it,
there's
where
it
says
plastic
wallets,
there's
a
link
that
link
will
take
you
to
that
youtube,
video,
which
shows
you
how
to
use
a
very
cheap
toy.
Eighty
dollar
laser
engraver
and
engraved
plastic
cards
with
these
paper
wallets,
which
is
great
because
it's
it's
it's
unique.
It's
unique!
B
It's
not
expensive,
but
it
is
time
consuming,
and
so
they
make
great
gifts
because
they're
so
unique,
and
it's
an
excellent
way
to
give
cryptocurrency
to
people
who
don't
know
anything
and
don't
want
to
download
anything.
It's
a
great
way
to
just
invite
them
to
to
learn
more
about
crypto,
because
they
don't
have
to
do
anything.
They
don't
have
to
download
anything.
There's
no
batteries
required.
It's
also
a
great
way
you
can
bury
the
cryptocurrency
like
gold.
You
know
some
people,
I
I
I
think,
that's
cool.
B
I
don't
think
everybody
thinks
that's
cool,
but
it's
nice
to
be
able
to.
I
think
it's
super
cool
that
you
can
like
treat
your
treat
your
crypto
just
like
gold.
You
can
bury
it
and
it'll
be
fine.
After,
like
20
years,
you
can,
you
can
unbury
it,
because
it's
on
a
plastic
card
it'll
be
fine.
C
Well,
you
know
this
also
sells
that
problem
where
people
like
well,
if
the
internet
goes
down,
you
can't
trade
bitcoin
anymore,
oh
yeah,
you
can,
you
can
actually
print
up
cards
with
certain
amounts
of
crypto
on
it
and
you
can
trade.
Those
cards
like
cash.
B
Yeah
we're
going
to
do
something
similar
to
that
probably
about
next
year.
I've
got
a
lot
of
people
on
this
island
that
I
live
on,
excited
about
decatur
dollars,
that's
the
name
of
the
island
decatur
and
where
yeah
we're
taught
there's
a
lot
of
pent-up
economic
activity.
There's
not
really
enough
dollars
to
go
around,
but
there's
things
that
people
would
do
if
they're.
If
we
had
our
own
local
currency
to
tap
into
it
and
and
so
yeah
I'm
planning
on
doing
a
bunch
of
these
plastic
cards.
B
I
still
have
to
figure
out
like
a
good
way
to
hide
the
private
key
like
under
a
tamper,
resistant
sticker
or
something
I
mean,
luckily
we're
a
small
community.
So
we
can
actually
leverage
trust
here
and
but
but
have
a
feature
where
you
can
just
quickly
scan
one
of
these
paper
wallets
and
verify
that
the
funds
are
are
still
there
on
that
card
and
then
and
then
then
yeah
you
can
just
trade
them
like
cash.
C
B
To
do
that
too,
that
that
that
was
one
of
the
big
bummers
when
I
created
geodrop
the
geolocation
game,
because
that's
exactly
what
I
wanted
to
do,
but,
unfortunately,
because
we're
such
a
remote
area,
the
the
tracking
part
of
that
app
on
your
phone
doesn't
doesn't
work
very
well
yeah
in
a
remote
area.
It
works
much
better
in
an
urban
setting,
so
yeah
but
yeah.
I
do
like
that
idea.
I
just
like
that
idea.
B
All
right,
yeah
so
going
down
the
agenda,
I
yeah.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
all
the
people
recently
who
have
been
using
fullstack.cache.
Thank
you
first
of
all
for
buying
a
jot
token
and
then
second
of
all,
thank
you
for
reaching
out
to.
Let
me
know
the
difficulties
that
you've
been
experiencing
with
jot
tokens.
Clearly,
I
need
to
step
up
the
amount
of
just
self-help
that
I
have
available
on
on
fullstack.cache
and
and
as
a
step
towards
that
direction,
I
mean
so
far.
B
I've
had
about
three
or
four
people
reach
out
to
me
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
trying
to
integrate
the
drop
token
into
their
app
and
not
having
you
know
a
smooth
experience
and,
and
so
when
that
happens,
the
the
and
this
jot
token
technology
is
really
important
to
me,
because
this
is
going
to
play
a
role
in
a
lot
of
the
software
that
we're
going
to
be
rolling
out
over
the
next
few
months.
B
Now
has
this
new
jot
token
endpoint
and
you
can
give
it
your
jot
token,
and
it
will
tell
you
you
know
the
health
information
about
it
like
if
it's
expired,
what
you
know
just
everything
that
the
jot
token
all
the
information
that's
encoded
in
the
jot
token,
and
so
the
there's
an
explorer
ui.
Actually,
let
me
just
pull
that
up.
Just
so
people
can
visually
see
what
happens
you
don't
there's
a
curl
command
and
for
me
as
a
developer,
that's
the
easiest
way
to
interact
with
it.
B
But
if
that's,
not
your
cup
of
tea,
there's
a
link
here
to
the
explorer
api
ui,
which
is
a
way
to
it's,
a
visual
interactive
way
to
interact
with
all
the
endpoints
in
bch
api,
and
so
there's
this
new
jot
token
section
and
you
can
hit
try
it
out,
put
your
jot
token
in
here
and
then
hit
execute
and
so
here's.
This
is
an
example
of
a
of
an
expired
jot
token.
B
But
if
you
put
your
your
jot
token
in
there,
it'll
tell
you
you
know
about
your
jot
token,
whether
it's
expired
when
it
when
it
expires.
If
it's
not
expired,
all
the
info
on
it,
and
so,
if
that
comes
back,
that'll
tell
you
that
the
jot
token
is
either
fine
or
not
fine,
and
if
it's
fine,
then
you've
you've
eliminated
one
of
those
two
sources
of
the
problem,
and
now
you
can
just
focus
on
the
proper
way
to
pass
the
jot
token
in
and
and
so
anyways.
B
I
encourage
people
if
they
run
into
this
problem,
reach
out
to
me
either
on
the
psf
telegram
channel
or
the
bchjs
toolkit
channel,
which
is
linked
in
fullstack.cache.
That's
where
the
website
encourages
people
to
go
for
for
support,
but
it's
just
been
great
to
have
this
sort
of
interaction
with
people
actually
using
the
jot
token.
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
I'm
I
am
receptive
to
the
feedback
and
I'm
taking
steps
to
improve
the
the
user
experience
with
that
so
yeah
big
big
step
in
that
direction
this
week.
B
Okay,
so
moving
on
the
json
rpc
over
ipfs
and
the
pay
to
write
database
are
a
couple
research
areas
that
daniel
and
I
are
working
on
pretty
hard,
and
I
just
released
this
new
video
called
decentralized
blockchain
service
providers,
and
it
looks
like
this
it's
on
youtube
and
I
really
really
highly
recommend
people
watch
this
video.
I
think,
there's
some
really
big
high-level
takeaways
in
here
and
just
just
want
to
touch
on
one
thing
that
I
I
kind
of
talk
about
in
that
video.
B
This
is
chat.fullstack.cache,
it's
a
developer
tool,
it's
also
a
and
an
encrypted
instant
messaging
app.
If
you
want
to
do
some
quick,
instant
messaging,
but
if
you
go
in
here
and
you
let
it
sit
for
a
while,
you
have
to
create
a
wallet
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
probably
report
on
in
the
next
meeting.
We're
going
to
make
this.
So
you
don't
have
to
create
a
wallet.
It'll
just
automatically
create
a
wallet.
B
If
you
don't
have
one,
because
it's
really
an
unnecessary
step
for
this
developer
tool
and
and
you
give
it
a
minute,
what
it's
doing
is
it's
gonna
spin
up
an
ipfs
node
connect
to
the
ipfs
network
and
it's
gonna
find
all
the
other
ipfs
nodes
on
the
network
that
are
part
of
this.
This
sub
network
and
and
so
a
couple
of
the
things
that
are
in
this
video-
is
this
ipfs
bch
wallet
service
demo.
B
So
this
is
an
api
that
lets
you
access
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain
over
ipfs,
which
is
better
than
doing
it
over
rest.
A
the
rest
api.
Well,
better
is
relative.
It's
it's
slower,
so
it's
not
better
in
that
regard,
but
it
is
much
more
censorship
resistant.
So
now
someone
in
china
who
previously
couldn't
access
the
full
stack
dot
cash
api
can
now
do
so
using
this
technique.
B
B
This
is
the
exact
same
service
running
on
a
desktop
here.
In
my
shed
on
a
residential
property
in
a
residential
internet
connection
on
a
dsl
connection-
and
I
didn't
have
to
do
any
special
networking
to
have
this
pop-up
and
compete
on
par
with
this
expensive
cloud
service,
and
so
this,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
game
changer
as
we
develop
this
technology,
it's
going
to
make
it
much
easier
for
people
to
run
computer
hardware
in
their
home
and
sell
services
to
other
people
like.
B
If
you
know,
if
you
have
access
to
say
the
file
coin
blockchain,
you
could
fork
this
software
and
build
a
service
provider
to
sell
access
to
the
filecoin
blockchain
or
the
avalanche
blockchain
or
whatever
your
favorite
blockchain
is
or
if
you
wanted
to
sell
storage
or
sell
computing
power
or
sell
you
know
whatever.
Whatever
web
service,
you
can
think
of
api
access
to
do
some
sort
of
thing.
B
This
is
going
to
be
an
amazing
like
it's
hard
for
me
to
communicate
effectively
the
cost
savings
involved
here.
There's
there's,
there's
there's
much
less
network
setup,
much
less
education
that
you
have
to
know.
You
don't
have
to
do
any
port
forwarding.
You
don't
have
to
register
a
domain
name,
you
don't
have
to
get
an
ssl
certificate.
You
don't
have
to
learn
nginx,
you
don't
have
to
know
all
of
these
things.
B
You
can
just
run
the
software
and
all
that
networking
gets
handled
for
you,
and
so
that's
one
big
cost
savings,
but
then
also
the
the
cost
savings
of
being
able
to
run
hardware
in
your
own
home
and
sell
services,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
set
up
cloud
infrastructure
which
you
have
to
pay
for
every
month.
B
And
if
you
stop
paying
it
all
goes
away,
and
so
I'm
very
excited
about,
like
the
sort
of
the
improvement
to
true
decentralization,
that
this
represents,
but
also
the
the
the
potential
for
individuals
to
sell
services
from
the
comfort
of
their
home
and
earn
cryptocurrency.
C
Now
I
got
a
few
questions
here,
because
this
is
really
exciting.
We
talked
about
this
earlier.
You
can
run
with
pretty
much
any
type
of
device
you
want
so
say
I've
got
an
old
cell
phone.
I
could
use
my
old
cell
phone
to
also
run
this
way
correct.
B
A
B
One
of
the
the
things
I
envision
this
in
the
future
is
having
software
like.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
packaged
as
docker
containers
and
so
there's
a
learning
curve
there.
If
anybody
doesn't
know
docker
containers,
they
need
to
learn
how
to
interact
with
docker
containers
but
one,
but
there's
it's
just
a
little
hump,
and
once
you
get
over
that
hump
and
now
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know
how
to
download
and
run
a
docker
container.
B
I
that's
that's
the
preferred
way
that
I
like
to
package
a
lot
of
the
software,
so
I
in
the
future,
I
would
like
to
build
some
software
that
would
let
people
run
a
docker
container
on
a
raspberry
pi.
So
you
can
have
this
hundred
dollar
piece
of
equipment
in
the
comfort
of
your
own
home
that
you
can
just
hit
a
couple
commands
and
get
it
up
and
running,
and
then
it
does
something
useful
for
you,
like.
B
So
one
of
the
things
I'm
envisioning
is
like
a
decentralized
exchange
of
dex,
where
you
could
have
your
raspberry
pi
could
have
a
wallet
and
you'd
give
it
some
some
whatever
your
favorite
cryptocurrency.
B
Is
you
want
to
trade
and
some
stable
coins
during
the
configuration
you
just
say,
yeah,
I'm
I'm
willing
to
sell
this
cryptocurrency,
for
you
know
two
percent
above
market
value
and
I'm
willing
to
sell
these
stable
coins
at
two
percent
below
market
value
and
or
above
you
know
it's
kind
of
relative
there,
but
basically
so
that,
like
you,
can
add
liquidity
to
some
some
general
marketplace
and
make
a
profit
by
doing
that.
And
then
you
get
a
bunch
of
people.
B
You
know
just
just
make
that
experience
like
extremely
easy
to
set
up
extremely
convenient
and
and
then
you
get
a
whole
bunch
of
people
around
the
world
doing
that.
Okay
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
you
have
a
decentralized
marketplace.
C
So
let
me
see
if
I
get
this
straight:
I've
got
a
raspberry
pi
for
sitting
on
my
wall
right
here
and
eventually
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
program
this
to
trade
cryptocurrency
or
a
stable
coin,
at
certain
rates
that
I
set.
So
I
don't
have
to
sit
there
and
watch
the
price
and
go
all
right.
Now,
I'm
going
to
trade.
Now
I'm
going
to
trade,
it's
it's
almost
like
a
high
frequency
trip.
A
personal
high
frequency
trader
for
cryptocurrencies
is
what
what
you're
kind
of
talking
about
yeah.
C
I'd
like
to
build
with
this
yeah
now
is
this
something
that
I
can
turn
on
and
off,
because
I've
got
a
very
powerful
computer
that
I
use
for
my
editing,
but
I'm
not
always
editing,
sometimes
I'm
out
in
the
field.
It
would
be
really
nice
to
be
able
to
make
money
on
the
investment,
while
I'm
out
making
other
money.
B
Yeah
yeah
so
yeah.
What
I
envision
is
like
so
here
is
an
example
of
the
same
service,
the
special
wallet
service
and
there's
two
redundant
copies
of
it
on
the
network
right
now.
So
if
one
went
down,
the
other
one
would
still
be
available
and
now
imagine
if
there
was
10
of
them
and
they
each
you
know
each
individual
person
running
them
set
their
own
price,
and
so
you,
as
a
consumer
of
these
services,
your
software,
could
automatically
without
any
interaction
from
you,
find
the
one
with
the
best
price
that's
available.
B
You
know
at
the
moment
that
it
wants
to
consume
the
service
and
negotiate
it
and
get
hooked
up
and
then
do
that.
And
so
that's
that's
what
I
envisioned
with
this.
This
is
the
idea
behind
the
sub
network.
Is
that
what
we're
doing
here
or
one
of
the
things
that's
happening
under
the
hood
with
this
ipfs
cord
library?
Is
it's
it's
creating
an
on-the-fly
sub
network
on
the
ipfs
network,
so
a
sub
network
of
ipfs
nodes
that
are
all
running
the
same
software
and
communicate
with
the
same
protocols
and
so
and
so
yeah.
C
I
like
that
idea,
a
lot
and
I
like
now.
I
need
to
set
up
my
raspberry
pi
to
read
my
desktop
computer
for
and
I'm
not
doing
intensive
tasks
and
turn
it
on
and
off.
So
I
don't
even
have
to
do
that
and
do
that
on
the
fly,
that'd
be
pretty
cool
but
yeah.
This
is
a.
This
is
a
great
idea,
and
I
like
this
idea
of
creating
a
subnet
of
computers
that
can
come
on
and
off
and
offer
services,
but
you
don't
need
to
necessarily
worry
as
the
end
user.
B
Yeah,
yeah
and-
and
you
know,
the
thing
is-
is
like
this
is
a
very
deep
rabbit
hole
like
there's
a
thousand
and
one
different
applications
for
this
tech.
The
one
that
I
I
think
is
like
the
low-hanging
fruit
here
is
is
a
decentralized
exchange,
because
this
is
a
very
real
need
for
everybody,
regardless
of
whatever
their
favorite
cryptocurrency
is
you
need
to
eventually
like
buy
food
with
that
cryptocurrency
and
and
for
some
cryptocurrencies
that's
very
difficult,
and
for
others
it's
not
so
difficult,
but
I
I
I
think
we
really
need
to
move
towards.
B
I
mean,
and
we
already
are.
The
industry
is
clearly
trending
towards
decentralized
exchanges
that
let
you
move
in
and
out
of
whatever,
because
the
cryptocurrency
you
have
may
not
necessarily
be
the
cryptocurrency
you
need
to
spend,
and
so
just
about.
Everyone
needs
to
have
some
stash
of
stable
coins
and
they
need
to
have
some
low
friction
way
of
moving
between
cryptocurrencies
and
that's
just
the
way
world
we're
in
and
that's
the
world
we're
moving
to
and
that's
the
industry
trend.
B
And
so
I
just
want
to
lean
into
that
trend
and
this
technology
would
enable
a
way
for
you
to
just
yeah,
basically
empowering
individuals
to
leave
and
exit
the
market
and
leverage
their
assets.
You
know
to
their
own
advantage
and
really
just
just
keeping
it
abroad
like
that
and
then
and
then
you
can
take
those
sort
of
principles
and
drill
down
into
specific
use
cases
like
a
decentralized
exchange
or
imagine
like
the
big.
B
So
wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
people
with
those
skill
sets
could
just
do
that
on
their
own
home
network
and
then
provide
an
api,
a
rest
api
or
a
json
rpc
api
and
sell
access
to
that
over
the
internet.
You
know
basically
taking
what
I've
done
with
fullstack.cache
and
just
taking
it
out
of
the
cloud
and
putting
it
into
the
home
and
then
creating
a
a
marketplace
of
people
doing
that
offering
those
services.
B
I
think
that
would
just
significantly
lower
the
barrier
for
the
entire
industry
in
terms
of
adoption
and
just
making
cryptocurrency
a
much
more
like
pragmatic
lifestyle
choice.
C
Well,
you're
hearing
them
people
here
is
your
new
side.
Hustle
go
ahead
and
start
a
node
and
start
selling
access
to
a
blockchain,
and
I
hate
to
call
it
completely
passive
income
because
there's
really
no
such
thing.
That's
that's
a
misnomer.
We
get
into
all
passive
income
needs
some
active
attention.
So,
but
if
you
could
get
this
up
and
running
and
with
some
a
little
bit
of
active
attention
per
week,
you
can
make
some
money
selling
to
the
blockchain
and
help
to
provide
a
better
world
for
tomorrow.
B
B
B
B
This
clearly
needs
to
be,
but,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
going
to
make
this
sort
of
marketplace
idea
that
we
just
discussed
more
more
practical
is,
if
you
can
go
to
a
service,
give
it
this
about
command
and
and
and
then
they
can
say
like
here,
here's
my
id
and
you
can
go
out
kind
of
like
a
facebook
profile
and
you
can
go
and
look
at
their
profile
and
be
like.
B
Oh,
this
guy's
been,
you
know
up
since
you
know
for
the
last
two
years,
and
then
I
can
go
to
this
other
third-party
website
that
maybe
validates
like
uptime
and
stuff
for
some
of
these
services
when,
when
those
are
things
that
matter
to,
however
you're
trying
to
use
a
service,
so
I
think
those
are
like
those
that
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
developed.
For
this
idea
to
really
flourish
is
is
decentralized.
B
Identity
is
a
is
a
hot
topic
in
the
tech
world
right
now
and
it's
being
solved
by
some
very
brilliant
minds.
So
we
don't
need
to
solve
this
problem.
This
problem's
already
basically
solved
particularly
by
ceramic
the
company,
and
so
I
I
intend
to
incorporate
a
lot
of
that
technology
into
this
technology.
So
once
you
get
decentralized
services
which
can
be
pseudo
anonymous,
but
the
people
who
really
want
to
like
there's
still
an
element
of
trust,
there's
still
like
a
a
track
record.
B
That's
what
decentralized
ids
provide
is
the
ability
to
you
know
basically
create
a
decentralized
version
of
yelp
where,
where
you
can
like
people
can
review
other
decentralized
services-
and
you
know
some
people
are
going
to
want
to
stay
anonymous
and
they're
going
to
want
to
pop
up
and
pop
down
and
and
be
disposable.
That's
an
important
use
case,
but
then
there's
also
the
opposite
of
that
where
people
are
going
to
want
to
be
like.
No.
B
This
is
me:
I'm
going
to
attach
my
real
world
identity
to
this
cryptographic
address
and
I'm
going
to
stand
behind
my
services
and,
and
I'm
gonna
stay
up
for
a
long
period
of
time,
so
that
people
can
trust
me
that
you
know
so.
You
get
both
ends
of
the
spectrum
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
excited
about
is
with
this
technology.
We
we
can
cater
to
both
ends
of
the
spectrum.
B
Yeah
all
the
things
that
are
attractive
about
conventional
business.
You
know
the
best
parts
of
them
about
you,
know,
trust
and
brand,
and
you
know
the
withstanding
the
the
test
of
time
staying
in
business
over
a
period
of
time.
All
of
those
things
can
still
be
preserved
and
can
still
be
projected
into
this.
This
new
paradigm,
yeah.
That's
what
I'm
saying.
C
Well,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
misunderstand
like
in
a
free
market-
they
think
it'll,
be
a
free-for-all,
but
in
reality
people
are
incentivized
to
create
companies.
That
say
you
can
trust
these
guys.
We
verified
them,
and
people.
A
C
Compete
for
that-
and
we
talked
about
this
before
the
term
trust
merchant
and
what
you're
kind
of
talking
about
is
creating
a
trust
merchant
for
the
decentralized
databases
and
for
those
who
don't
know
a
trust
merchant
is
somebody
who
sells
their
trust
and
integrity.
So
if
I
am
a
trust
merchant
of
databases-
and
I
recommend
a
database-
that's
not
trustworthy,
I
lose
my
product,
which
is
essentially
my
trust.
C
If
I
verify
them-
and
you
have
a
problem-
you're
less
likely
to
use
me
and
other
companies
are
less
likely
to
come
to
me
to
get
verified,
and
so
companies
like
this
will
arise
and
will
fill
that
void
and
if
there
are
people
out
there
that
are
watching
this
and
you're
you're
wanting
a
good
business
idea.
This
might
be
a
good
place
to
start
for.
You.
B
Yeah
good
reminder
of
the
trust
merchant,
because
that's
going
to
be
a
more
important
idea
as
we
move
forward
the
thing
that
this
changes,
the
big
paradigm
shift
here
is
that
this
is
a
platform
that
creates
a
level
playing
field.
B
So
now,
not
only
can
you
know
like
people
like
americans,
let's,
I
think,
a
lot
of
nor
northern
hemisphere,
northern
above
the
equator,
people
are
going
to
watch
this,
and
and
and
those
cultures
are
familiar
with
the
idea
of
creating
a
company
and
a
brand
and
standing
behind
that
brand
and
but
a
lot
of
equally
competent
people
who
are
not
in
those
countries
and
are
not
part
of
that.
Culture
can
now
compete
with
those
with
those
people.
So
I
I'm
thinking
more.
B
Like
you
know,
a
a
nigerian
entrepreneur
can
run
hardware
and
offer
services
on
par
with
a
north
american
company.
That's
running
an
aws
instance
in
the
cloud
they're
both
going
to
show
up
in
this
list,
and
they
both.
A
B
Equal
opportunity
to
you
know,
put
themselves
out
there
and
and
develop
trust
and
build
and
build
their
brand.
It
puts
it
puts
some
everybody
on
the
same
equal
playing
field,
because
it's
just
based
on
the
tech
and
there's
no
there's
no
government
regulation
to
this.
It's
all
just
code
and
protocol.
C
Yeah
and-
and
the
thing
is
that,
if
the
guy
in
nigeria
is
servicing,
people
in
nigeria,
they're
gonna
get
fast
for
response
time
and
because
I
think
we
have
this
idea
that
you
know
it's
the
internet
everything's
fast
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
the
data
center
is,
you
know,
3
000
miles
away.
It's
it
travels
the
speed
of
light.
C
You
know
if
it's
going
through
light,
pipe
or
fiber
optic,
but
the
thing
is
there
are
physical
limitations
to
data
transfer
and
there's
a
reason
that,
like
the
stuff
at
with
the
stock
exchanges,
these
companies
that
do
high
frequency
trading
have
their
computers
as
close
as
possible
to
the
trading
floor,
because
there
is
a
latency
that
is
introduced
and
so
the
guy
in
nigeria
that's
selling.
His
services
may
actually
be
able
to
create
a
very
competitive
company
within
his
area
and
sphere
of
influence,
and
I
think
that's
great.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
point
and
also
the
opposite
is
true,
where
this
is
the
thing
that
I'm
constantly
that
I've
run
up
against
in
in
the
last
few
years
with
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain
is
we're
transferring
extremely
small
pieces
of
data,
and
so
like.
I
don't
need
all
the
performance
that
I'm
paying
for
with
these
cloud
service
providers.
B
My
home,
dsl
connection
on
a
desktop
is
perfectly
adequate
to
service
everyone
in
the
world.
You
know
up
to
a
point,
and,
and
so
that's
the
thing
is
transferring
particularly
in
the
sp
in
the
cryptocurrency
space,
we're
not
dealing
with
huge
data
packages.
You
know
we're
just
dealing
with
very
small
pieces
of
data,
and,
and
so
we
don't
need
you
know
the
big
aws
pipeline-
that's
been
set
up
for
like
spotify
to
push
music
to
everybody
like
that's,
that's
just
that's
not
that's!
B
That's
not
the
architecture
we're
dealing
with
and
and
so
that's.
I
think
that
that's
part
of
why
I'm
so
excited
about
this
technology
is
that
it
lets
people
go
smaller
and
be
more
efficient
and
and
use
the
resources
that
they
they
already
have
yeah
in
their
possession.
C
Well-
and
this
is
something
you've
worked
on
building
for
years
in
it
in
a
way,
you
know
and-
and
we've
talked
about
this
and
how
this
being
able
to
sell
your
computing
power,
and
it
is
a
little
bit
like
the
server
client
side
are
being
merged
together.
You
know
you,
you
can
have
a
laptop
that
you
use
as
a
client
side,
but
somebody
else
is
also
using
as
a
server
side
really
really
cool,
and
traditionally
we
don't
think
that
way.
Traditionally,
we
think
all
right.
A
C
Problem
with
that
with
the
processing
speeds
that
are
just
immense,
I
mean
look
what
you
could
get
with
a
raspberry
pi
4
right
like
for
80
bucks,
you
could
buy.
You
know
a
16
gigabyte,
like
memory,
16
gigabytes
of
ram.
On
that
thing,
I
think
that's
right.
I
may
be
wrong.
B
B
A
C
C
B
Fully
capable
of
doing
a
lot
of
you
know
valuable
stuff
in
the
cr,
especially
if
you
can
now
leverage
that
I
mean
this
you're
getting
what
I'm
saying.
Hopefully
the
people
watching
this
are
getting.
What
they're
saying
is
is
like
the
hardware
is
so
cheap
now,
and
it
can
do
so
much,
and
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
architecture
that
will
let
you
you
know
you
could
you
could
take
a
150,
raspberry,
pi
and
and
sell
something
incredibly
valuable
through
it?
Well,
what
we're.
C
Kind
of
walking
into
is
the
edge
computing
world
right
so
edge.
Computing
is
a
is
a
big
thing
where
you're,
a
factory
and
you've
got
a
micro
computer
that
works
on
a
piece
of
machinery,
and
then
it
so
you
it
can
read
data
there
and
make
decisions
on
point
instead
of
having
to
send
it
back
to
server
and
then
go.
Oh,
no,
there's
a
failure,
and
by
the
time
it
gets
stuff
back,
you
got
your
machinery
is
completely
messed
up,
whereas
on
the
edge
computing
side
it
reads
it
right
there.
C
It
says
something's
wrong.
I'm
going
to
shut
this
down
right
now
until
we
look
at
it
and
we're
kind
of
merging
into
that.
That
way
where
we
have
edge
computers-
and
I
like
this
idea
of
it's
not
just
one
set
computer
like
my
computer-
could
go
down,
but
my
neighbor's
computer
could
be
up
so
my
program
that
I'm
using
could
be
pulling
from
all
these
different
points,
and
it's
I.
C
I
almost
think
there
needs
to
be
a
name
for
it
where
it's
like
it's
kind
of
like
a
dag
or
no
well,
not
really
a
dag
but
like
a
decentralized
unit.
But
some
of
these
notes
can
come
on
and
off
at
the
same
time.
But
the
program
is
reading
which
nodes
are
on
and
off
and
utilizing
those
in
the
best
way.
The
best
possible
fashion.
B
Well,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on.
There's
there's
one
last
thing
here
in
the
agenda:
I
wanted
to
cover
gary
nadir,
who
is
also
working,
doing
maintenance
on
stuff
more
on
the
avalanche
side
of
the
psf.
We
he
he
created
this
avex
clyde,
wallets
command
line
wallet.
It
compliments
our
slp
clay
wallet.
So
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
it,
slp
clywallet
is
a
command
line.
Wallet
for
working
with
bitcoin
cash
and
slp
tokens.
B
Ofx
klywall
is
a
command
line,
wallet
for
working
with
avalanche
and
the
their
native
currency
avecs
and
their
their
native
tokens,
which
are
referred
to
as
or
avalanche
native
tokens,
and
so
you
get
the
same
use
the
same
commands.
You
have
the
same
experience
working
with
two
different
blockchains
and
he
just
added
this
get
key
command,
which
I
am
I'm.
I
was
excited
to
have
to
see
this,
so
you
can
generate
a
public
private
key
pair
on
avalanche,
which
is
what
you
need
in
order
to
create
a
paper
wallet.
B
So
you
know
I
bought
some
avalanche
and
I'm
storing
them
on
on
some
of
these
plastic
wallets.
That's
how
I
prefer
to
store
a
lot
of
my
crypto,
so
I
was
pretty
excited
to
see
this
command
get
added,
because
now
I
can
generate
on
the
fly,
a
public
private
key
pair.
I
can
burn
those
I
can
print
those
out
into
a
paper
wallet
or,
in
my
case,
burn
them
onto
a
plastic
card
with
my
laser
engraver
and
and
then
use
the
avalanche
web
wallet
to
sweep
the
the
the
private
key.
B
When
I,
when
I
want
to
retrieve
my
my
avalanche
or
avalanche
tokens,
so
that's
so
that's
in
place.
I
just
I'm
one
of
the
the
big
things
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
over
the
next
few
months
is
is
creating
parity
with
these
two
command
line,
apps
between
the
avalanche,
blockchain
and
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain,
so
that
you
have
largely
the
same
command
set,
largely
the
same
experience.
B
The
code
is,
is
quite
different
and
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
will
help
developers
is,
if
you
are
already
experienced
with
avalanche,
you
want
to
know
more
about
bitcoin
cash
or
the
other
way
around.
This
is
an
excellent
way
to
compare
the
same
commands
and
compare
the
code
and
see
how
it
differs
between
the
two
blockchains
and
but
but
also
this
this
one
command
in
particular,
I'm
excited
that
now
I
can
easily
produce
paper
wallets
for
for
the
avalanche,
blockchain,
very
cool.
C
Very
cool
and
exciting
to
see
what's
going
to
be
happening
with
the
avalanche
blockchain
as
the
bridges
come
online
more
and
more.
C
B
Yeah,
well
with
that,
you
know,
let's
open
it
up,
stowan,
I'm
always
anxious
to
hear
what's
caught
your
interest
over
the
last
couple
weeks,.
A
I
will
need
maybe
10
minutes
to
talk
about
stuff.
Is
it
okay,
yeah
go
for
it,
man
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
continue
the
discussion
on
from
the
comco
meeting
about
you
know.
There
was
talk
about
this
flip
starter
stuff,
and
some
people
was
telling
that
this
icon
stuff
you're
trying
to
show
your
full
stack
wallet.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
before
what
I'm
working
on
and
why
I
working
on
this
one
just
wanted
to
show
how
awful
is
the
status
of
the
icon
in
nft
in
the
bsh
in
sop
world
good.
B
B
A
Okay,
so
first
talking
about
the
usual
icons
in
order
to
have
icon.
For
your
token,
you
now
just
need
to
fork
this
project.
A
A
So
what
will
give
you
this?
One
is
just
a
standard
url
to
access
to
your
icons
means
it's
not
blockchain
or
something
it's
just
one
url
which
you
can
use
from
your
wallet
or
exchange
on
everything,
and
they
mentioned
here
that
these
services
are
using
this
url.
But
in
fact
it's
not
true,
because
in
order
to
have
this
thing
shot
in
the
sop,
this
simple
ledger
explorer.
A
B
A
Because
they
are
doing
what
they
want,
for
example,
these
guys
the
latest
like
commits.
If
you
see
it's
everything
for
this
market
enter
the
sphere,
only
these
things
are
added,
so
they
have
some
relations.
I
don't
know
what,
but
I
mean
it's
not
permissionless
at
all.
B
Yeah
and
it's
centralized
it's
based
on
a
web
url,
so
in
china,
which
has
a
bunch
of
ai
built
into
their
firewall.
That
automatically
blocks
like,
like
I'm
sure
that
no
one
in
china
went
to
the
bother
to
be
like
oh
full
stack
that
cash,
let's
ban
them,
I'm
sure
it
was
completely
automated,
but
I
do
know
that
my
website's
banned
in
inside
china,
because
I've
had
people
inside
trying
to
tell
me
that.
B
So
this
is
a
good
example
of
how
that
would,
even
if
they
did
approve
everything
and
the
token
were
great
in
north
america.
It
would
not
show
up
inside
china
because
these
websites
are
probably
blocked,
and
so
any
artwork
coming
from
that
website
will
also
be
blocked.
A
Yes,
and
so
let's
go
to
the
this
jungle,
it's
the
most,
how
to
see
active
exchange
in
the
moment
for
nfts.
A
A
It
will
be
showing
the
simple
ledger
explorer,
but
if
you
see
on
the
data,
there
is
nothing
telling.
Where
exactly?
Is
this
media.
D
A
If
you
have
wallet
every
other
wallet,
then
this
simple
ledger:
it
never
cannot
display
this
art
here,
because
all
of
this
thing
is
like
we
mentioned
it's
managed
by
one
file,
one
magic
file
inside
this
sop
explorer
there
is
this
group
icon,
repos
and
the
file
format
is
like.
This
is
a
transaction
ip
of
the
group,
and
here
is
some
basic
warrior,
where
the
all
icons
will
be
so
this
magic
file.
If
your
wallet
does
not
have
it,
you
just
cannot
display
any
of
the
jungle
tokens
and
again.
C
Well,
I
want
to
make
sure
too
we're
not
we're
not
trying
to
say
the
guys
that
are
running
this
are
doing
anything
nefarious,
so
they're,
probably
trying
really
hard
and
working
really
hard
and
swamped
with
a
lot
of
stuff,
and
that
becomes
and
this
slp
stuff
is
blown
up.
So
they
might
be
dealing
with
a
lot
of
requests
and
we
are
trying
to
provide
a
solution.
C
B
Yeah,
that's
a
good
point,
aaron,
let's
yeah.
I
know
these
guys.
I
know
I
know
jt
and
I
know
joey
who's
behind
into
the
sphere.
I've
worked
with
these
guys
for
years.
Yeah.
A
B
B
Problem
is
that
there
hasn't
been
a
well
thought
out
or
well
executed.
You
know
scheme
that's
better
than
this,
and
so
it
might,
I
really
do
yeah.
We
really
do
owe
them
a
debt
of
gratitude
for
at
least
getting
the
ball
rolling.
But
but
you
know
this
is
also
really
healthy
for
us
to
so
yeah.
B
B
A
I
don't
want
to
blame
somebody
just
wanted
to
show
how
how
like
is
the
current
state?
How
much
effort
you
need
to
put
in
order
just
to
get
one
art
like
one
media,
one.
A
A
Who
want
to
do
with
nfts
on
the
bsh?
He
need
to
deal
with
these
problems,
so
any
wallet
need
just
to
do
something
with
this
file
and
with-
and
this
is
not
the
only
way
the
media
is
stored.
There
is
another
nonstand
standard
ways
like
putting
directly
the
ipfs
hash
or
some
different
other
urls
inside
the
document.
So
it's
very,
very,
very
very
fuzzy
area.
C
Yeah,
so
we
we
respect,
if
you
you
guys
that
created
this
are
watching,
we
totally
respect
what
you've
created
and
we
appreciate
it
and
we
we
validate
what
you've
done
and
we
would
like
to
help
take
it
further
and
that's
what
we're
talking
about
with
this
mutable
token
protocol,
and
I
think
chris
you've
made
it
very
clear
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
it
to
be
full
stack.cash.
C
You
can
fork
the
wallet
you
can
create
your
own
software.
You
can
create
your
own
wallet.
We
just
are
worried
about
a
protocol
that
can
help
the
end
user
to
easily
create
mutable
token
data,
because
right
now,
so
many
tokens
are
created
on
ethereum
and
it
is
very,
very
expensive
to
create
tokens
on
ethereum
compared
to
bitcoin
cash
or
even
eventually,
ecash
or
avex,
and
I
think
that
if
we
were
able
to
solve
this
problem,
we
would
see
a
lot
of
nft
creators
flocked
to
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain.
C
B
Yeah
yeah
and
for
people
who
aren't
familiar
with
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
this,
the
specification
we've
been
working
on
the
the
broad
scope
is
that
it's
a
it's
a
like
a
recipe.
B
It's
a
series
of
steps
that
you
can
do
before
you
create
your
your
token
that
then,
when
you
go
and
create
the
token
you
you
put
in
the
piece
of
data
and
then
now
you
can
change
the
art,
the
icon,
anytime,
you
want
no
one
in
your
under
full
control
of
that
and
then
and
then
wallets
can
easily
read
that
data.
You
know
like
the
token
icon
and
display
it,
and
so
yeah
it's
been
just
to
follow
up
on
this.
B
I
I
put
something
out
on
the
rbtc
reddit
and
got
some
pretty
interesting
and
mixed
feedback
some
people.
It
was
interesting.
The
first
couple
people
were
like
I
don't
really
understand.
I
don't
think
this
is
important.
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
put
any
money
in
this
which
then
caused
the
people
who
actually
care
about
the
problems
to
step
up
and
be
like.
No,
this
is
a
huge
problem.
B
You
know
I
there's
a
couple
people
who
you
know,
like
stoyan,
weren't
afraid
to
give
their
first-hand
accounts
of
the
all
the
friction
that
they've
run
into
around
around
trying
to
get
a
you
know,
trying
to
trying
to
launch
a
legit
token
for
a
legit
business
and
get
a
legit
icon
and
just
how
damn
difficult
that
process
is,
and
so
so
some
people
really
clued
in
into
it.
And
so
there's
definitely
people
out
there
feeling
the
pain
and-
and
this
is
this.
C
A
Yeah,
so
back
to
what
I'm
working
on
like
we
mentioned,
we
don't
blame
people,
we
just
deal
with
the
situation.
A
So
what
I'm
trying
now
is
to
add
to
this
bshgs
nft
library
that
I'm
working
recently
on
I'm
trying
to
add
this
call
get
payload,
so
you
just
provide
it
with
the
token
id
and
because
for
several,
if
you
have
several
of
these
guys,
I
don't
want
to
repeat
the
same
cause
again
and
again.
A
I
will
provide
this
the
this
file,
this
json
guy
long
stuff-
I
just
getting
it
once
with
with
these
commands,
and
I
will
provide
it
to
the
code
to
this
function,
get
payload
so
getting
it
one
time,
and
if
I
have,
for
example,
a
group
of
tokens
like
I
would
try
to
put
this
in
the
wallet.fullstick.cache
views,
but
I
will
get
this
group
file
just
once
and
send
it
to
every
one
of
the
tokens
in
the
group.
A
So
in
this
get
payload
it
will
evolve
with
the
time
because
in
the
moment
it's
trying
to
deal
with
the
sloths
this
different
schemas
stuff.
So
it's
getting
this
group
file
checking.
If
the
group
is
there,
if
it's
there,
it's
getting
the
this
url
for
the
group,
adding
the
the
token
id
to
this
and
return.
Finally,
one
url:
if
it's
not
this
one,
if
it's
some
thing
starting
with
qm
means
it
will
be,
maybe
ipfs
hash,
it
do
something.
A
B
A
But
I
want
here
to
make
a
small
discussion
about.
I
was
not
sure
how
like
this
in
the
moment,
two
ways
to
deal
with
this
stuff.
One
way
is
to
check
for
the
tokens
which
are
in
the
current
wallet.
A
So
in
this
case
I
can
get
this
stuff
with
the
utxo
get
call,
and
also
I
can
use
the
bch
api
code
that
we
created
before
some
time
this
parent
nft
group
for
a
token,
and
it
will
be
returned
information.
A
So
this
is
the
one
way
the
tokens
in
the
wallet
and
the
other
possible
stuff
is
to
send
scrapsy
to
pass
to
this
function.
Any
token
id
you
want-
and
it
is
this-
need
to
be
implemented
with
the
calls
to
the
sopdb.
A
B
Well,
you
know
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
service
that
I
think
would
be
really
valuable.
To
put
you
know,
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
use
case
I'm
targeting,
but
with
that
decentralized
services
yeah,
this
is
actually
probably
a
feature
that
should
be
added
to
slpdb.
B
B
That's
probably
the
most
appropriate
place
for
these
features
to
go
but
lacking
that
there's-
and
this
is
sort
of
how
the
slp
ecosystem
has
has
evolved
is
because
you
know
slp
db
has
its
limitations,
and
so
there's
there's.
These
other
features
like
slp
list
is
a
npm
package
that
will
do
just
validation
and
it'll.
Do
it
on
the
fly,
and
so
so
that's
an
example
of
a
service
that
like
if,
for
some
reason,
slp
db,
is
not
functional
or
can't
do
something.
B
You
know
here:
here's
like
an
alternative
service
that
can
that
can
fill
that
gap
and
and
that's
kind
of
what
your
what
you're
pointing
out
here
is
like.
Maybe
we
need
a
service
where
you
give
it
a
token
id
and
it
returns
back
to
you,
the
the
artwork
and
just
all
the
metadata
about
the
about
the
token.
B
A
Was
that
why
am
I
capturing
that
right?
Hey,
let's
see
my
point
was:
do
we
want
this
code
to
only
check
for
the
tokens
inside
the
wallet
so
to
check?
First,
if
this
token
id
is
inside
the
wallet,
because
with
this
one
it
is
simple
but
asking
I
sop
db
is
more
general.
It
can
be
used
not
only
inside
the
the
wallet
it.
For
example.
I
am
using
this
inside
my
nft
checker
this
guy,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
still
working.
A
Because
this
guy,
it
does
not
care
where
exactly
is
the
token
you
just
give
him
a
token,
the
transaction
id,
and
it
will
show
you
all
information
about
this
token.
Okay
and
it's
good
like
a
general
application,
it's
not
wallet,
it's
nothing!
It's
just
like
a
viewer.
B
C
Well,
I
think,
there's
a
two
different
use
cases
here.
There's
the
use
case
of
the
end
user
that
wants
nfts
as
a
media,
a
trophy,
a
possession,
something
like
that
and
then
there's
the
use
case
of
say,
a
restaurant
that
is
giving
out
tokens
for
discount
right,
like
maybe
using
something
like
geodrop.cash.
C
A
secondary
qr
code
will
be
made
that
validates
that
token
id
so
the
restaurant
knows
it
hasn't
been
a
falsified
token
right,
because
you
can
go
and
say
I
create
restaurant
token,
and
I
am
I
distributed
them
through
geodrop.
But
then
some
tech
savvy
person
also
creates
restaurant
token
right
with
the
same
moniker
and
everything.
C
The
only
way
to
tell
that
apart
is
the
token
id,
so
if
we
can
hash
or
not
hash
but
make
a
qr
of
the
token
id
right
that
can
easily
be
scanned
and
that
business
also
has
a
wallet
that
they've
entered
in
we're
only
looking.
At
this
token,
we
don't
care
about
indexing
the
entire
slp
database.
We
just
want
to
see
this
token
and
make
sure
this
token
is
in
this
wallet
right,
and
so
I
could
see
both
functions
having
a
use
case,
but
for
different
reasons.
B
I
think
the
one
in
bchjs,
I
think
you
would
give
it
well
in
in
terms
of
bchjs
and
bch
api.
I
think
it
would
be
the
more
generic
call
where
you
just
give
it
a
token
id,
and
then
it
gives
you
back
the
you
know
the
data
about
that
token.
B
But
then
in
the
wallet
software,
that's
where
you
know
the
wallet's
only
concerned
about
what's
in
the
wallet,
so
it
it
really
is
two
different
use
cases
where
you
start
out
with
the
general
call
in
bch
api,
but
then
the
wallet
leverages
that
call
does
that
make.
C
Sense,
I
think
you're
talking
about
two
different
products.
I
mean
we've
been
talking
about
projects
versus
products,
the
you
have
one
product
which
is
concerned
of
the
tokens
in
that
wallet
showing
you
their
icons,
showing
the
media
stuff
like
that.
You
have
a
secondary
product
which
is
used
use
case
is
discounts
for
a
restaurant
or
a
business,
and
so
that
would
be
a
different
set
of
code
that
would
be
different
plugins
that
would
be
put
together
in
peace
like
lego
box,
like
we've,
been
talking
about
to
service
that
business
so.
B
Yeah
well,
my
thinking
is
also
in
terms
of
rate
limiting
and
and
performance
from
the
user's
perspective.
You're
you're
not
like.
Let's
say
let's
say
you
have
a
not
a,
not
an
nft
but
a
fungible
token,
and
let's
say
you
have
you
know
three
utxos
that
are
that
all
each
represent.
You
know
different
quantities
of
that
same
token.
Well,
the
wallet
app
you're
not
going
to
want
to
call
that
end
point
to
get
the
artwork.
B
You
know
three
times
you
just
need
to
call
it
once
and
but
but
the
other,
the
other
like
the
get
call
which
hydrates
it
so
that
so
that
those
tokens
can
be
spent.
That
does
need
to
be
called
three
times
and-
and
so
in
this
case
like
that's,
why?
B
I
think
I
think
this
would
be
better
as
an
end
point
in
bch
api
on
a
like
on
a
per
token
basis,
so
you
call
it
once
for
each
class
of
token
and
then
and
then
it's
in
up
to
the
wallet
software
to
decide.
You
know
how
often
and
when
to
make
that
call.
B
A
A
So,
like
you
give
this
guy
a
talk,
a
transaction
id,
it
will
get
the
apparent
like
it's
in
the
moment.
It's
work
only
for
the
child
tokens
because
they
have
media
attached,
so
it
will
get
the
parent
group
it
will
with
this
guy
that
we
already
created
and
from
info
for
the
group,
it
will
extract
some
information,
but
if
you
decide
to
be
more
general,
then
you
cannot
use
this
code
because
it's
not
in
your
wallet
token
id
you
give
it.
A
I
think
now
our
bch
api
call
will
check
if
the
token
is
inside
this
get
utxo
get
you
getting
the
utxos
inside
your
wallet
and
it
will
check
if
it's
this
token
is
there.
B
A
Don't
need
to
get
children?
Okay,
you
just
need
to
get
the
group
because
yeah
you.
This
call
receive
the
token
id
like
this
one,
this
thing
and
it
will
return
the
media
for
this
child.
So.
A
Yeah
with
this
call-
and
if
you
remember
this,
call
it's
returning
a
small
json
with
like
ticker
for
the
group
and
stuff
like
this,
and
also
it
will
contain,
like
document
url
this
info.
So
from
there
you
can
decide.
Is
this
group
a
part
of
this
special
json
file
or
no?
And
if
it's
from
this
json
file,
you
can
get
some
information.
A
Use
you
cannot
use
utxo
codes
to
to
the
for
the
wallet
right
right.
You
need
to
go
directly
curing
the
sop
db
database.
B
A
B
A
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
the
main
the
main
difference
to
separate
these
youth
cases
is
performance
in
in
this
sort
of
block
ex
I'm
going
to
call
this
a
block
explorer
use
case
and
this
sort
of
block
explorer
use
case.
The
user
is
willing
to
wait
a
long
period
of
time
in
order
to
get
the
information
that
they
need,
but
in
the
wallet
use
case
it
needs
to
be
really
snappy
and
fast,
and
so
you
need
to
avoid
getting
any
data
that
you
absolutely
don't
need.
A
C
A
C
A
A
No,
it's
located
it's
connected
to
the
child,
okay,
but
but
what
is
the
bad
in
case
of
this
jungle?
Traded
tokens?
You
just
get
one
transaction
transaction
id,
so
you
cannot
figure
where
exactly?
Is
the
media
without
getting
the
information
for
the
group,
and
this
information
is
here.
C
A
C
So
is
it
like
a
double
verification
so
like
verifying
that
you
have
the
child
token
id
and
then
verifying
that
that's
part
of
the
the
parent
group.
B
Yeah,
that's
the
very
okay
yeah
yeah.
That
was
the
part
we
were
missing.
Was
this
this
second
vedairi
verification
system?
They
had.
A
It
and
that's
how
it
verifies
so
for
this
guy.
I
want
to
get
this
picture
where
it
is
so
see.
You
have
only
this
thing
transact
token
id,
so
you
need
first
to
get
the
group
for
this
token,
so
you
go
to
the
group
and
you
get
the
token
id
for
the
group,
so
you
need
to
found
now
what
is
the
basic
ip
for
this
group?
A
So
you
need
to
get
this
json
file
and
search
for
this
thing
and
okay,
we
found
this
is
the
the
guy,
the
basic
ip
basic
url
for
this
guy.
So
we
use
this
one
plus
it
has
some
special
like
sizes
for
the
icon,
so
it's
like
original
is
the
original
size.
A
B
B
A
A
B
A
But
so
yeah,
sorry,
it's
very
crucial.
A
A
B
A
A
A
Are
starting
to
do
it
now
yeah
it's
moving,
but
we
still
have,
like
I
don't
know,
2
000
or
more
tokens
in
the
jungle
that
people
would
trade
and
expect
to
see
in
their
wallets.
B
Yeah
see
this
is
this
is
part
of
the
trade-off
is
I
could
see
in
our
argument
for
one
like,
so,
on
the
one
hand,
the
way
that
enter
the
sphere
is
doing.
It
is
better
in
that
it's
more
permanent
and
more
available,
but
it's
also
worse
in
that
they
can
never
change
the
artwork.
For
that
token,
now
it's
locked
in
and
it
is
permanent
as
permanent
gifts,
whereas
with
jungle
they
could
actually
change
the
artwork
that
that
token
points
to-
and
that
is
both
a
good
thing
and
a
bad
thing.
A
Yeah,
no,
no,
it's
worse.
How
to
see
the
the
jungle
you
can
change.
The
artwork
is
not
a
good
thing,
because
this
means
it's
not
non-fungible
right.
They
can
show
you
cellu
monolith
and
next
day
to
replace
it
with
some
like
kids
art.
So
it's
not
a
certificate
for
non-changeable
media
yeah.
What
are
you
actually
buying
clearly.
A
B
Well,
yeah,
so
just
so,
since
we've
spent
some
time
talking
about
these
two
different
schemes
of
attaching
artwork
to
an
nft
where
you
can
point
to
a
content
addressed
location
like
jungle's
doing-
and
you
know,
there's
the
the
and
and
as
we've
talked
about
they
can
change
the
artwork.
That's
pointed
to
versus
the
way
that
enter
the
sphere
is
doing
it,
which
is
more
authentic,
but
also
immutable,
which
is
again
both
good
and
bad.
B
But
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
cryptographically
sign
a
message
essentially,
and
so
anybody
who
changes
the
there's
like
there's
like
on
the
blockchain
there's
going
to
be
an
audit
trail
of
any
change
that
happens,
that
anybody
can
look
at
and
only
you
know,
one
there's
going
to
be
a
private
key,
so
somebody's
going
to
be
in
possession
of
that
private
key
or
some
organizations
can,
but
that's
the
person
who
can
change
the
artwork
and
no
one
else,
and
so
I
I
think
it
provides
a
like.
B
I
think
we're
kind
of
looking
at
two
extremes
here
and
I
think
that's
educational,
because
it
it
helps
emphasize,
like
you
know,
being
able
to
change
the
artwork
when
you're
talking
about
fungible
tokens
in
particular
is
a
very
good
thing,
not
such
a
good
thing
when
it's
an
nft.
C
That
also
depends
on
what
we're
talking
about
with
nfts
we've
had
many
discussions
where,
like
I
personally,
don't
think
artwork
nfts
are
necessarily
the
total
future
and
use
case
of
nft
tokens.
You
know,
I
think
that
having
the
mutability
enables
somebody
say,
you're
a
young
coder
or
something,
and
you
come
up
with
a
very
novel
piece
of
code
and
you
could
lock
it
up
with
an
nft
and
sell
the
child
tokens
kind
of
like
jot
tokens.
C
You
know,
but
then
they
have
revocability
as
well,
because
you
could
block
you
know
blacklist
that
particular
token
or
whitelist.
Whatever
tokens
you
want,
and
I
I
think
that
we're
going
to
see
a
different
use
case
when
it
comes
to
nfts
and
how
how
they
work.
You
know:
we've
talked
of
about
stuff,
like
property,
transferring
property
and
transferring
record
of
property
things
of
that
nature.
So
you
know
I,
I
see
a
good
and
bad
there's.
C
You
know
if
I
want
to
make
it
art
and
I
want
to
make
it
permanent,
I
might
go
the
way
that
sphere
is
going
and
just
upload
it
to
ipfs
and
say
this
is
a
piece
of
artwork.
It's
permanent
and
that's
it.
You
know
I
might
have
the
ability
to
change
the
token
icon
that
could
in
that
depends
on
the
wallet
too,
because,
like
the
the
wallet
can
look
at
the.
What
we're
talking
about
with
the
mutable
spec
first
and
foremost,
is
just
the
token
icon.
C
So
when
the
wallet
looks
at
the
transaction
id
to
look
at
the
address
that
has
the
most
recent
transaction,
it's
just
gonna
pull
the
icon.
For
the
token
not
necessarily
change
the
location
of
the
payload
could
be
that
down
the
line.
We
also
add
something
to
where
it's
also
going
to
look
through
that
transaction
id
for
the
payload.
C
You
know-
or
maybe
it's
something
in
the
multiple
op.
You
know
now
that
we
have
a
multiple
op
return.
Maybe
we
say
first
one
is
token
id.
Second,
one
is
payload
right.
So
if
I
do
write
a
piece
of
code-
and
I
stick
it
up
on
ipfs
but
there's
a
bug
and
I
need
to
change
it-
I
don't
have
to
issue
new
tokens.
I
simply
make
another
transaction
and
that
changes
the
payload.
B
Yeah
into
into
just
complement
what
you
said,
I
think
the
real
value
here
in
our
mutable
token
spec
is
that
there
is
a
place
for
immutable
data
in
it
and
there's
a
place
for
mutable
data
in
it.
So,
depending
on
the
use
case,
and
this
this
discussion
around
artwork
and
nfts
and
the
different
use
cases
for
nfts,
I
think,
is
perfect,
because
if
you
decide
that
the
artwork
itself
is
what
you're
selling
and
that's
the
part
that
needs
to
be
immutable,
that
can
go
into
the
immutable
part
of
it.
B
But
if
it's
a
different
use
case
like
a
fungible
token-
and
you
want
to
leave
the
door
open
to
being
able
to
rebrand
and
change
your
icon
down
the
road,
then
then
the
icon
can
go
in
the
mutable
part
of
the
specification.
Well.
C
Let's,
let's
roll
with
the
you're,
an
artist
right,
say:
you're,
an
artist,
that's
producing
regular
content.
You
produce
a
piece
of
artwork
every
month
you
could
sell
an
nft
token
that
gives
access
to
that
newly
monthly
content
and
the
mutable
data.
Spec
makes
sense
for
that.
I
don't
have
to
issue
people
new
tokens.
They
can
simply
use
the
same
token
to
access
the
new
artwork
and
then,
after
the
month
has
passed.
I
could
issue
that
artwork
on
a
permanent
nft
basis.
C
If
somebody
wants
to
buy
it
permanently
or
if
I'm
this
works
great,
if
you're
a
musician,
maybe
I'm
going
to
do
a
single
a
month.
So
every
month
I
upload
my
new
single
and
then
I
do
another
transaction,
and
so
people
that
have
that
token
are
listening
to
my
new
single
for
that
period
of
a
month
and
then
it's
the
next
single
and
if
they
want
to
buy
the
single
itself
after
that
period
of
month,
I
have
permanent
issued
nft
tokens
that
they
can
do
that
with.
A
A
A
A
B
I
have
an
artist
friend
who's
been,
I
I
don't
know
if
it
was
this
site,
but
she
was
telling
me
about
about
this
about
how
yeah
just
sort
of
this
very
simple,
programmable
ability,
where
there's
a
daytime
version
and
there's
a
nighttime
version,
yeah
and
then,
and
then
there's
also
I've
seen
ones
where
there's
just
like
most
of
the
artists
static,
but
then
just
like,
like
the
water
or
or
something
very
minor,
will
be
animated
and
the
rest
of
it
will
be
will
be
still.
I
don't
I've
not
seen
any
of
these
with
me.
A
There
was
one
interesting
like
some.
I
think.
Where
was
this,
I
think
here
you
can
choose,
for
example,
to
be
a
golden
ring
or
a
silver
ring
stuff
like
this
one
and
mint
it
to
be
unique
for
this
guy,
like
customized,
all
the
the
stuff
you
can
see
on
the
top
there's
a
art
or
music
menu.
So
in
oh
in
case
of
music,
you
can
sell,
for
example,
more
drums
or
more
something
to
somebody
if
he
pay
more.
A
Throughout
the
day,
so
it's
like
five
layers
like
multiplied
three
possibilities.
I
don't
think
14.
D
C
I,
like
you,
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
is
the
idea
of
playing
with
time
with
nfts,
I
think
say
you
create
a
game
like
crypto.
Publix
has
been,
you
know
huge
of
course,
but
imagine
not
only
do
you
have
crypto
punks,
but
they
have
seven
or
eight
levels
of
maturity
right
and
they
mature
by
the
length
of
time
you
hold
them
in
your
wallet.
Now
you
could
even
make
it
have
even
more
rare
and
more
fun,
because
you
could
have
some
of
the
same
characters.
C
A
C
C
B
Yeah
and
see
this,
I
I
I'm
oh
see
that
this
is
cool,
so
the
woman
changes.
Her
changes
are
that's
awesome.
It's
the
same
woman,
but
with
different
with
different,
looks
so
see
this
this
type
of
programmability
with
regard
to
our
our
nft
or
our
mutable
data
spec
for
tokens,
this
type
of
programmability
could
go
into
that
mutable
part
and
it
could
use
any
programming
language.
I
mean
it
really,
it
could
just
be
json
data,
but
then
it
could.
It
could
also
like
react
to
the
blockchain.
B
It
could
make
a
call
to
the
blockchain,
and
so
the
the
original
artist
could
be
the
one
pulling
the
strings
for
the
different
animations
you
know,
or
it
could
be
based
on
the
weather
or
it
can
be
based
on
some
sort
of
external
input
that
that
affects
these
kind.
I
I'm
assuming
that
I
don't
know
how
this
is
done
like
I'm,
assuming
this
is
on
ethereum
and
I'm
assuming
it's.
B
These
are
driven
by
a
smart
contract
somehow,
and
so
it's
the
same
idea
just
expressed
in
a
different
way-
and
I
think
I
mean
personally,
I
would
prefer
to
have
that
level
of
programmability
off-chain,
because
it's
going
to
be
much
easier
to
develop
and
much
easier
to
maintain.
B
Yeah
yeah
well
justin,
just
in
general.
I
think
just
just
this
is
a
great
example
of
programming
that
I
think,
would
just
because
we're
talking
about
crypto
tokens
here
I
stopped
sharing
their
aaron.
A
B
Because
we're
talking
about
crypto
tokens,
the
the
sort
of
native
place
for
that
programmability
to
live,
would
be
in
the
smart
contract
on
chain.
But
it's
also
a
great
example
of
something
where
boy
that,
from
a
developer
standpoint,
that's
a
problem
like.
I
would
much
prefer
that
programmability
to
be
off-chain,
because
it's
just
going
to
be
so
much
easier
to
build
and
so
much
easier
to
maintain.
C
Well,
here's
another
cool
idea
that
I'm
thinking
of
all
right,
say:
you're
a
musician
right
and
you
sell
your
song
and
but
using
the
mutability
aspect,
you
could
change
the
location
of
the
payload
to
be
a
live
stream
address.
So
all
of
a
sudden
for
those
people
that
own
your
token
they
have.
This
spur
of
the
moment
live
stream
concert
of
your
band
at
you
know
three
o'clock
on
wednesday.
We're
doing
this
live
stream
and
all
they
got
to
do
is
click
their
their
wallet
and
boom.
C
B
Yeah
yeah,
you
could
do
the
same
thing
with
an
airdrop
that
would
be
kind
of
like
that's.
That's
one
thing
that
your
use
case
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
talk
about.
Is
you
know
if
you
have
an
nft?
That's
like
your
initial
seat,
that's
your
ticket,
but
then,
but
then
that
also
becomes
like
a
home
and
a
homing
beacon.
And
so
when
you
have
a
on
the
fly,
live
stream
like
you
airdrop,
you
don't
have
to
know
who
that
person
is
you
don't
need
to
know
their
email
address?
B
B
It's
a
little
different
on
each
blockchain,
but
that's
one
of
the
really
cool
things
about
slp
tokens
is
that
or
at
least
slpdb,
because
it
you
can,
has
this
rich
query
interface?
So
you
can
you
can
pull
down
all
the
people,
all
the
addresses
that
hold
a
token,
and
then
you
use
that
as
your
map
for
the
error
drum
yeah
and
that's
what
that's
what
we
would
do
with
the
psf
token,
if
there
was
ever
like
like
we
got
hacked
and
we
lost
our
keys
or
I
got
hit
by
a
bus
any
any
one.
B
Community
member
could
just
query
all
the
addresses
of
psf
token
holders
and
then
airdrop
a
new
token
of
the
same
quantity
and
and
then
the
whole
system
keeps
chugging
along
well.
C
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
thankfully,
thankfully.
D
It's
a
very
low
risk.
I
think
it's
more
you
getting
electrocuted
by
a
graphene
super.
B
B
C
Today,
all
right,
I'm
gonna,
go
ahead
and
hit
the
outro
for
all
those
who
are
watching
online
hit
us
up
in
the
telegram
hit
us
up
personally
on
through
telegram.
If
you
want
we're
all
in
the
psf
channel,
and
we
thank
you
very
much
sam,
I
am
records
if
you're
still
watching,
thanks
for
being
on
bud,
really
appreciate
you
giving
us
some
feedback
in
on
the
audio
in
the
comments
got
all
that
stuff
worked
out,
and
we
will
see
you
guys
next
week
for
the
comcom
meeting,
all
right.