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A
C
Let
me
I'm
going
to
share
this
link
on
the
telegram
channel
and
then
we'll
get
this
going.
C
It
is
wednesday
march
30th,
2022
and
I'm
joined
by
these
lovely
members
of
the
permissionless
software
foundation.
My
name
is
chris
troutner.
I
founded
the
the
psf,
let's
go
around
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions.
Aaron
sundman!
Why
don't
you
start.
D
D
A
lot
of
society
is
set
up
so
that
new
people
new
systems
cannot
easily
get
in
and
break
in
and
and
cause
and
make
a
difference
in
the
world,
but
with
something
like
this,
where
you
don't
have
to
have
permission
and
that's
what's
important
about
what
chris
is
putting
together
with
the
ipfs
and
stuff
and
making
these
something
that
that
can
work
for
everywhere.
So
I
appreciate
this,
I'm
glad
to
be
a
part
of
it.
C
A
C
C
Under
the
permission,
the
software
foundation
group
under
a
repository
called
tsc
for
technical
steering
committee
and
we
file
our
agendas
as
issues
so
go
to
the
issues.
Tab-
and
this
is
the
agenda
for
329.22
today.
C
So
the
scope
of
these
meetings
are
to
discuss
the
core
software
that
the
permissionless
software
foundation
maintains
and,
and
it's
really
an
opportunity
for
us
to
celebrate
our
technical
achievements
over
the
last
two
weeks,
which
is
when
we
have
these
meetings
and
and
so
the
standard
format
is
we'll,
go
through
the
agenda
items
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
at
the
end
to
a
round
table
where
we
can
discuss
current
events
or
any
sort
of
new
tech
that
has
caught
our
attention.
C
So,
let's
see
start
with
some
of
the
easier
stuff
for
so
the
pay
to
write
database
explorer,
which
is
explorer.fullstack.cache.
It
now
has
this
app
id
filter.
So
when
you
go
to
explore.fullstack.cache
it's
kind
of
like
a
block
explorer,
because
the
paid
right
database
is
kind
of
like
a
blockchain
instead
of
looking
at
blocks,
you're
looking
at
entries
in
the
database,
and
so
that's
what
this
table
is
and
it
refreshes
every
20
seconds
automatically,
and
so
you
can
see
a
lot
of
these
test
transactions
for
the
the
bch
decks.
C
But
what
we've
added
here
is
this:
is
this
filter?
So
if
you
want
to
filter
by
your
app
id,
so
when
you
submit
data
you
you
tag
it
with
an
app
id.
So
this
way
you
can
filter
out
other
people's.
You
know
data,
that's
and
you
can
just
focus
on
the
data
for
your
application.
So
if
I
go,
let's
see
those
are
bch
decks
test.
C
There
was
a
556
was
like
an
earlier
test
batch,
so
I
can
filter
just
by
those
app
ids.
So
that's
a
pretty
handy
little
little
addition
for
working
with
the
pay
to
write
database,
oh
and
as
I
go
guys
as
always
interrupt
me
if
you
have
questions
or
comments,
otherwise
I'll
just
go
through
all
these
bullet
points,
but
I
love.
I
love
feedback.
E
C
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
primarily
geared
toward
json
data,
but
you
can
submit
any
data
up
to
10
kilobytes
per
entry.
So
it's
it.
The
cos.
The
cost
to
write
to
the
database
is
a
point
zero
one
psf
token,
so
you
can
do
100,
100,
writes
per
psf
token,
and
and
each
right
can
be
up
to
10
kilobytes.
C
Okay,
so
the
bch
wallet
or
this
bch
wallet
starter,
has
a
new
android
apk
file.
So
this
is
actually
one
of
our
pinned
repositories.
So
if
you
go
to
the
the
ps
github
repository.
C
C
I'm
going
to
try
and
switch
mayhem
all
the
way
back.
Okay,
I'm
still
with
you,
yeah
you're,
back,
okay,
good,
all
right
that
should
make
it
a
little
more
stable
yeah.
So
the
bch
wallet
starter
is
right.
Here,
it's
one
of
our
pinned
repositories
and
we
have
an
android
apk
file
in
there.
Now
that
that
you
can
download
with
your
android
phone
and
load
the
wallet
on
it's
right
here,
you
have
to
click
on
that
do
download,
so
it's
called
side
loading.
C
When
you
do
this-
and
I
just
noticed
an
issue
with
the
with
the
camera.
So
I
need
to
fix
that,
but
basically
what
this
lets
us
do
or
let's
anybody
do
is
fork.
This
starter
and
white
label,
their
own
wallet
app,
and
they
immediately
have
everything
they
need
to
compile
that
into
an
android
app
for
their
that
they
can
also
white
label
for
their
own
use.
C
Yeah.
So
that's
the
main
advantage.
We
use
a
framework
called
capacitor
to
so
this
is
a
gatsby
web
app
and
you
use
a
framework
called
capacitor
and
android
studio
to
compile
it
into
an
android
app,
and
so
those
dependencies
are
listed
here
in
the
package.json,
so
so
yeah.
I
just
really
want
to
encourage
businesses
and
other
people
to
do
this
like
fork
it
and
hack
it
and
build
your
own
app
around
it
and
then
the
back
end
infrastructure
uses
our
web
3
community
infrastructure,
and
that
is
we'll
we'll
talk
about
that
back-end
stuff.
C
A
Is
that
so
that's
the
main
difference
between
the
old
apk
and
the
new
one
is
that
the
new
ones
used
in
the
web3.
C
Yeah
yeah,
whereas
the
old
one
used
the
fullstack.cache
infrastructure
and
that's
why
we
couldn't
really
offer
it
like
yeah,
I
don't,
but
basically
with
our
centralized
infrastructure,
it
really
prevented
us
from
offering
like
a
nice
big
public
phone
app,
but
now
with
this
web
3
infrastructure,
we
can
do
that
awesome,
fantastic.
D
Well,
so
a
question
on
that:
how
difficult
would
it
be
for
someone
to
to
to
download
this
white
label
it
for
themselves,
then
put
it
on
the
google
play
store?
I
mean
not
me
right
now,
I'm
just
thinking
like
a
company
who
wanted
to
do
it.
Would
it
be
a
large
effort?
Well,
just
I
guess
good
idea
of
what
you'd
think
that
that
would
take
for
some
somebody.
C
Yeah
well,
we've
tried
to
make
creating
the
actual
android
apk
file
as
easy
as
possible.
So
I
mean
that's
just
a
couple:
click,
if
you
have
the
pre-rip
the
knowledge
and
you
have
android
studio
compiled.
You
know,
that's
just
a
couple
clicks,
so
the
bulk
of
that
effort
would
be
in
just
getting
google
play
store
to
accept
the
android
file
and
I've.
I've
had
nothing
but
bad
experiences.
With
that.
That's
why
I,
just
I
don't
even
go
down
that
road
I
mean
I
people
are
welcome
to
do
that.
C
I
just
personally
avoid
that
they're
very
picky
about
anything
to
do
with
crypto
and,
of
course
their
stance
is
changing
all
the
time,
so
this
could
have
completely
changed,
but
my
experience
over
the
last
two
years
has
been
it's
very
sketchy
trying
to
and
then
once
you
get
into
the
play
store
anytime,
you
push
an
update.
C
Just
pushing
a
minor
update
and
then
it'll
get
delisted,
because
I
know
something
happened
that
tripped
it
up
and
their
policy
changed
and
what
it's
just
a
so
I
just
generally
avoid
the
store
and
and
that's
why
I'm
like
yeah
just
side
load
this,
because
another
focus
of
mine
is
south
america.
No
one
in
south
america
has
an
iphone
right.
C
I
mean
it's
just
right,
absolutely,
no
one,
and
so
it's
all
android
all
the
time
for
everybody
down
there
and
they're
used
to
google,
like
especially
people
in
venezuela
and
argentina,
that
really
need
the
software
they're
used
to
google
like
banning
and
unbanning
their
country.
So
they
also
tend
to
avoid
the
app
store
and
they
have
alternative
app
stores.
They
use
and
they're
they're
generally
pretty
savvy
with
side
loading
apps
like
that.
D
So
I
I
want
to
mention
that
too.
Just
because
I'm
going
back
to
the
early
earlier
statement,
I
made
permission
lists
right
once
side.
Loading
allows
it
to
be
permissionless
and
that's
the
name
of
this
organization.
You
know,
whereas
google
is
blocking
anything
they
don't
like,
and
you
never
know
what
it's
going
to
change.
So
I
appreciate
your
efforts
and
that
I
feel
I
feel
like
that's
an
important
piece
of
this.
A
Would
add
like
if
you're
gonna
do
this
stuff
and
you're
starting
out
as
a
business?
Some
of
your
business
strategy
is
probably
going
to
be
starting
up
a
telegram,
a
discord,
something
like
that
and
you
could
use
that
to
push
them
to
alternative
stuff,
like
f
droid,
apk,
mirror
apk,
pure
or
whatever
you're,
choosing
to
put
that
that
apk
up
on,
and
so
as
you
build
that
community,
you
could
use
that
outreach
to
push
them
to
alternative
placed
alternative,
app
stores
other
than
the
play
store.
C
Yeah
yeah,
and
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
us
to
do
as
a
group,
it's
probably
beyond
what
I
have
bandwidth
for,
but
if
there
are
alternative
app
stores
where
we
could
list
our
apk
file,
that
would
be
that'd.
Be
awesome.
I'd
be
totally
I'm
like.
I
just
don't
even
want
to
deal
with
google,
but
if
there's
alternative
app
stores
that
we
can
easily
get
it
into
that
that'd
be
worth
exploring.
I'm.
A
Dropping
a
link
with
10
different
ones
in
the
telegram
right
now
for
anybody.
C
Nice,
excellent,
okay,
moving
on
the
bch
token
sweep
library,
so
if
you
go
to,
I
should
have
had
it
up.
C
If
you
go
to
wallet.fullstack.cache
once
that
comes
up
I'll
show
you,
but
this
is
the
ability,
so
we've
got
a
couple
paper
wallet
generators.
So
this
is
an
example
of
what
a
paper
wallet
looks
like
this
is
for
tokens.
C
C
It's
this
feature
here
on
wallet.fullstack.cache
the
wallet
tab,
not
that
one
sweet,
the
sweet
one
where
you
can
scan
the
private
key
and
and
and
retrieve
any
tokens
stored
on
the
paper
wallet
so
that
broke
with
the
deprecation
of
slpdb.
But
it's
fixed
now
and
it's
actually
a
there's.
There's
the
there's,
the
visual
component,
which
is
the
the
gatsby
plug-in
that
I
just
showed,
but
then
there's
the
actual
library
that
controls
the
logic
of
the
sweeping
and
that's
what
needed
to
be
updated.
C
So
I
actually
used
that
library
in
a
lot
of
different
places,
especially
for
developers.
It's
a
handy
tool
if
you're,
you
know,
especially
like
I
use
it
with
this
bch
decks
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
in
a
minute
where
that's
that's,
using
the
hd
wallet
capability
to
to
generate
utxos
and
store
them
at
different
store
tokens
at
different
addresses.
C
D
So
one
of
the
things
I
I
mean
I
mentioned
right
before
this
before
we
came
out-
live
because
I
planned
on
using
this
a
lot
of
the
job.
I
had
actually
the
ability
to
sweep
psf
or
any
kind
of
slp
tokens,
because
once
you
start
to
think
about
just
like
the
way
chris
you've
been
using
the
mint
bob
inside
telegram,
you
want
to
be
able
to
gift
people,
psf
tokens
or
something
to
be
able
to
create
a
physical
item
that
you
could
hand
something.
D
So
it
becomes
this
physical
thing,
so
you
can
print
them
ahead
of
time.
I
did
a
talk
even
just
yesterday
at
grand
valley,
state
university,
and
I
wanted
to
get
people
engaged,
but
I
had
to
give
them
bch,
because
there
was
no
easy
way
to
s
to
sweep
an
slp
token,
so
I
gave
them
a
couple
bucks
worth
of
bch,
which
was
just
sort
of
fun.
I
ended
up
using
the
gifts.bitcoin.com
because
that's
really
the
only
platform
that
really
supports
stuff,
like
that,
so
this
right
there
once
you
think
about
all
the
capabilities.
D
This
has
the
sweeping.
It's
really
an
amazing
piece
of
technology
that,
because
the
gas
fees
are
so
low,
you
can't
do
this
on
ethereum.
You
can't
do
this
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
because
this
technology
supports
that
kind
of
thing,
it's
there's
a
really
flexible
way
of
making
something
amazing
like
go
ahead.
F
F
F
Like
other
guys,
they
just
don't
put
the
sop
address
at
all.
They
just
put
there
the
the
bch
address,
so
it's
very
difficult
to
understand,
which
one
is
my
wallet,
but
the
sop
one
it's
the
best.
I
have
like
printed,
maybe
like
10
or
more
like
something
like
like
this,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
papers.
You
don't
need
even
to
fold.
D
Done
that
I
I
actually
printed
hundreds
of
them
with
different
thousand
tokens,
10
token
spot.
You
know,
and
I
gave
them
out
so
yeah
the
the
capabilities
once
to
think
about
how
the
sweet
thing
can
really
work.
It's.
It's
really
amazing
how
you
can
bring
people
on.
So
that
is
a
great
great
example
story,
and
I
wish
I
had
some
physical,
the
show.
D
E
C
Oh,
oh,
we
mostly
gabriel
cardona.
We
we
built
that
gift
at
bitcoin.com
and
so
what
it
allowed
roger
veer
loved
it
because
he'd
hand
them
out
and
what
it
did
is
that
any
of
them
that
didn't
get
claimed
you
could
you
could
recall
them
back.
So,
if
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
that
we
can,
we
can
build
that
software
again,
the
hard
part
and
to
the
point
where
they
did
tokens.
C
So
we've
already
got
that
figured
out,
but
yeah
we
could
build
like
a
command
in
the
psf
ech
wallet
command
line.
What
allow
you
to
generate
paper
wallets
like
a
mass
quantity
of
paper,
wallets
and
then
print
them.
You
know,
do
like
nine
per
page
or
something
and
then
have
the
ability
to
recall
any
that
are
claimed.
You
know
at
some
later
date,
so
yeah.
If
there's
interest
in
that
I
mean
I,
I
know
how
to
code
that
up
don't
go
to
conferences
or
hand
paper.
D
So
I
I
do
a
lot
of
talks
on
it
right
now
on
nfts
on
this
whole
piece
and
so
on.
I'm
all
for
finding
a
way
to
get
people
to
have
some
some
stake
in
the
game,
something
to
care
about.
So
you
know
and
a
lot
of
people
I
mean
okay,
so
going
back
to
roger
veer.
He
and
I
have
done
the
same
thing.
We've
given
out
lots
of
crypto
over
time
now
he
gave
a
lot
more
than
I
did
so,
I'm
not
even
in
the
ballpark
of
him.
D
But
the
problem
is
you
give
out
some
btc
or
something
if
you
gave
it
and
they
they
don't
value
it
right.
They
don't
write
down
the
12
words.
They
don't
know
what
they're
doing
and
they
lose
the
money
right.
So
having
something
like
this,
that
only
20
and
sometimes
only
10
percent
of
the
people
you
give
it
to
will
actually
do
anything
about
it.
So
you
should
be
able
to
get
that
90
back
or
the
80
back
a
month
later
or
whatever.
A
D
Yeah
what'll
happen
usually
it'll
sweep
it
so
it'll
pull
it
in.
I
know
this
is
I've
done
a
lot
of
it.
It's
easier
with
bch,
because
there's
already
bch
right,
there
has
to
be
something
to
fund
it
with
slp,
it's
a
little
more
difficult,
because
there
is
no.
Until
the
post
office
gets
stood
up.
You
know
to
support
slp.
C
Oh
well,
yeah,
the
post-op
would
be
good
but
yeah.
So
the
the
tokens
are
on
the
physical
piece
of
paper
and
so
yeah
to
claim
it.
It's
that's
the
process
of
moving
it
off
the
paper
and
into
your
own
wallet
and.
A
D
Part
of
it
is
that
exactly
if
you
have
to
walk
them
all
the
way
through
it,
they
don't
care
enough
to
keep
it
yeah
and
that's
what
I
found
over
and
if
you
have
to
do
all
the
work,
if
they
even
just
do
5
15
seconds
worth
of
thinking
about
it
on
their
own,
then
they're
engaged.
Otherwise
it's
not
even
worth
giving
it
to
them
really
and
I've
done
it.
I've
done
it
hundreds
of
times
giving
away
thousands
of
dollars.
C
F
C
C
F
Yeah,
that's
working.
I
tried
it,
but
it's
a
great
way.
I
figured
I
look
on
somebody's
video
and
how
to
see.
I
figured
it's
a
great
way
to
have
a
plan
b.
If
you
lose
your
wallet
or
somebody
stole
it
when
you
travel.
If
you
have
one
of
these
things
in
your
pocket,
you
can
like
at
least
pay
for
your
like
meal.
You
go
where's.
My
wallet
like
so
it's
good
to
have
one
of
several
of
this
one
inside
the
pockets.
When
you're
going
traveling.
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
as
far
as
the
psf
is
concerned,
if
we
wanted
like
a
smooth
user
experience,
we'd
want
to
add
the
token
sweeping
feature
into
the
bitcoin,
the
the
bch
wallet
starter
and
generate
our
own
apk,
and
then
that
would
kind
of
be
the
incentive,
like
here's,
some
free
tokens
or
bch
and
to
access
it.
You
need
to
install
you
know
this
wallet
app,
but
all
the
tools
are,
I
mean
that's.
C
The
thing
is
like
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
get
businesses
interested
in
doing
this
to
put
forth
that
last
mile
of
effort
of
actually
forking
and
white,
listing
the
app
and
and
then
and
then
now
they
have
their
own
company
tool
to
do
to
deal
with
their
own
company
tokens.
C
So
we'll
see
all
right
I'll
get
back
to
the
agenda
here.
C
Okay,
so
that's
a
sweeping
and
minimal
avex
wallet
and
the
psf
avex
wallet.
These
are
both
our
command
line,
wallets
one
for
the
avalanche
chain,
one
for
the
bitcoin
cash
chain.
They
now
recognize
and
work
with
nfts
the
the
bch
one
did
before,
but
we
needed
to
deprecate
slpdb
and
move
to
the
new
token
indexers.
That
was
a
big
thing
there
and
then
the
avix
wallet
never
did
because
nfts
are,
like
this
whole
different
token
class.
C
That
was
never
originally,
so
the
wallets
wouldn't
see
them,
but
gary
has
pushed
some
updates,
and
so
now
that
works
with
nfts,
and
these
are
all
stepping
stones
to
being
able
to
get
nfts
into
the
decks
and
be
able
to
buy
and
sell
nfts
on
the
decks.
C
Which
that's
a
good
segue
to
the
yeah?
You
got
something
aaron.
A
I
was
gonna
say
so
now
that
nfts
are
supported.
You
know,
when
I
get
time
I
could
work
on
getting
them
to
resolve
within
the
wallet
goodnight.
C
Yes
and
let's
talk
about
that
because
there's
a
there's
a
few
steps
in
involved
before
we
can
do
that,
but
to
being
able
to.
C
C
C
Okay,
there
we
go.
You
guys
got
me
now
yep.
C
I
had
to
shut
down
a
couple
things,
so
what
I
was
going
to
do
is
just
show
you
a
demo
of
the
raspberry
pi,
but
that's
what's
slowing
down
my
computer,
so
I
can't
do
that,
but
but
the
dex
is
up-
and
actually,
if
I
go
to
the
dex,
read
me
this
so
so.
If
anybody
wants
to
check
out
the
decks,
it's
in
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
github
group
and
the
repository
called
bch-dex.
C
C
I've
got
this
like
hour,
long
video
that
walks
through
how
to
set
up
the
decks
either
on
a
normal
computer,
running
ubuntu
or
on
a
raspberry
pi
running
ubuntu,
and
yesterday
we
completed
the
very
first
trade
between
two
people
on
the
decks
yeah
and
I
bought
a
street
a
stroop
waffle
token,
but
some
some
dude
who
I've
never
talked
to
before
got
into
the
the
telegram
chat
room
and
he
went
through
the
video
and
he
had
a
raspberry
pi
on
hand
and
he
got
it
running
and
he
made
an
slp
token
and
I
bought
it
from
him
and
he
bought
one
of
mine
and
so
yeah,
it's
pretty
cool.
C
And
so
it's
just
it's
just
a
big
deal
that,
like
we've
done,
we've
done
the
actual
I
mean
it's,
it's
up,
it's
live,
anybody
can
get
on
there
and-
and
you
know,
put
some
tokens
up
for
sale.
The
liquidity
is
pretty
low
right
now,
but
but
it's
it's
fully
functional
fairly
functional,
but
it
is
functional.
C
That's
huge!
It
is
huge
it
is
huge,
and
so
one
of
the
big
one
of
the
big
takeaways,
that's
in
that
high
level
overview
video-
is
that
that
there's
three
phases
to
a
trade
there's
the
maker,
the
taker
and
the
acceptance,
and
it's
that
last
phase,
that
acceptance
phase.
That
is
it's
fully
automated,
but
you
have
to
be
online
in
order
to
like
react
to
it,
and
so
that's
why
this
is
a
really
good
application
for
a
raspberry
pi.
C
Is
it
basically
turns
it
into
an
appliance,
and
then
you
can
access
it
remotely
with
a
web
browser
to
actually
you
know,
control
the
software,
but
the
raspberry
pi
is
like
just
sitting
there
online
all
the
time
ready
to
finalize
a
trade
when
it
comes
in,
and
so
that's
why
it's
such
a
really
good
application
for
for
a
raspberry,
pi,
so
yeah.
So
I've
got
mine
just
sitting
there,
waiting
to
accept
trades
and,
and
presumably
his
is
as
well
and
for
every
node,
that
is
on
the
network,
actively
trading
tokens.
C
D
C
C
A
C
Well,
the
v,
the
walkthrough
video
is
about
an
hour.
It
probably
takes
about
four
hours
to
send
one
up,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
just
waiting
for
it
to
sync:
it's
not
like
you,
don't
have
to
actually
be
there
doing
anything
because
there's
the
there's,
the
the
installation
of
the
docker
containers
and
that's
sort
of
like
a
hit,
a
button
and
wait
like
an
hour
for
that
to
and
then
and
then
you
got
to
wait
for
the
pay
to
write
database
to
sync
and
that
can
take
about
an
hour.
D
D
E
A
Is
it
better
to
use
ubuntu
or
are
you
using
like
raspbian.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
think
this
will
run
on
a
pi
3.
I
think
it
has
to
be
a
pi
4.
and
I
haven't
tried
it
with
raspbian.
It
might
work,
but
it
definitely
works
in
ubuntu,
okay
and.
B
C
F
C
No,
not
necessarily
their
the
app
has
its
own
wallet
and
it
does
manage
its
own
wallet.
So
so
it's
inherently
custodial
and
like
single
user
like
that,
would
be
a
feature
down.
The
road
would
be
to
do
it
in
some
way
where
it's
non-custodial,
but
right
now
the
app
has
its
own
wallet.
So
it
you
know
if
you,
if
you
spin
it
up
on
digitalocean
the
wallet
that
you
have
on
you
know
like
it's:
it's
still
a
secure
environment,
so
I
I
wouldn't
hesitate
to
do
that.
E
C
Oh
well
I'll
tell
you
what,
if
you,
if,
if
you
run
into
it
again,
let's
talk
about
it
on
that
on
the
telegram
chat
room
for
the
for
the
decks
and
I'll
try,
and
I
I
can
try
and
replicate.
I
just
haven't
tried
a
digital
ocean
environment
yet,
but
I
have
done
it
on
a
on
a
desktop
here
should
be
the
same
yeah
so
anyways
the
dex
is
running
man,
it
barely
it's
clunky
like
there's,
there's
a
ui
for
taking
orders,
but
there's
no
ui
for
making
orders.
C
You
have
to
run
a
script.
For
that.
So
I
mean
that's
how
rough
it
is,
but
but
yeah
I
I.
I
can't
wait
to
start
getting
some
some
like
tether
tokens
up
there
and
and
and
have
people
be
able
to.
C
You
know,
even
if
it's
low
liquidity
being
able
to
move
in
and
out
of
stable
coins
and
and
so
well,
and
so
this
is
starting
to
become
a
segue
into
oh
and
so,
and
one
of
the
other
upgrades
I
want
to
do
sooner
rather
than
later
is
I
can't
set
up
a
com
to
do
the
trading
because
the
app's
inherently
custodial,
but
what
I
realized
yesterday
is.
I
can
set
up
like
a
read-only
version
where
you
can
at
least
just
see
the
coins
and
the
quantities
that
are
that
are
for
sale.
C
So
I
think
I'll
build
one
of
those
so
that
people
can
at
least
like
go
to
it
and
see
what
is
up
for
sale
at
the
moment
and
to
sort
of
encourage
you
to
install
your
own
software.
C
D
C
C
Okay,
so
the
the
bch
dex
is
now
officially
like
ahead
of
the
avalanche
decks.
So
I
that's
one
of
the
things
I
have
to
go
back
and
and
backport
this
functionality
into
the
avalanche
side
of
things
and
then
also
fork
this
over
to
the
the
ecash
chain
and
I'm
going
to
jump
ahead
a
little
bit.
There's
a
just.
C
Yesterday
I
figured
out
how
to
make
a
multi-sig
transaction
using
the
bitcore
library
and
actually
I
hit
a
snag
and
then
another
person
came
into
the
chat
room
that
I've
never
interacted
with
and
and
they
they
figured
out
the
one
or
two
lines
of
code
that
was
preventing
it
from
working,
and
I
just
confirmed
today
so
that's
huge
because
in
addition
to
these
dexes
I
want
to
set
up
bridges
across
the
chain.
So
I
mean
the
obvious
low-hanging.
Fruit
is
a
bridge
between
bitcoin
cash
and
avalanche
and
bitcoin
cash
and
ecash.
C
But
you
know
we
could
also
do
a
bridge
to
like
dash
where
we
have
like
a
synthetic
dash
slp
token
and
and
then
we
have
an
app
where
people
can
exchange
those
for
real
dash
and
get
dash
delivered
to
their
dash
wallet.
So
we
could
bring,
and
so
we
could
use
this
technique,
this
bridging
technique
to
to
bring
in
any
token
from
any
other
chain
and
the
thing
that
I
don't
want
to
do.
I
I've
hesitated
on
making
any
moves
that
way,
because
oh
yeah,
I
have
youtube,
turned
off.
C
So
if
somebody
can
keep
an
eye
on
the
on
the
chat
there,
that
would
help.
I
just
with
my
network
connection.
Apparently
I
can't
handle
that,
but
but
with
the
bridges,
what
I
didn't
want
to
do
is
is
make
that
move
with
me
being
the
only
key
holder
of
those
tokens
and
so
having
multi-sig.
C
Having
like
a
minting
council
that
involves
many
different
people
prevents
a
single
point
of
failure,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
a
big
deal.
So
not
only
is
the
psf
token
going
to
be
able
to
be
used
to
pay
transaction
fees
for
the
decks
it'll
become
a
medium
for
value
transfer
across
chains.
F
So
chris
are
you:
are
we
giving
up
on
pch
gs
multisig
because
before
sop
gs,
they
have
it
and
this
bit
bitcoin
core
like
they?
They
have
it
from
before,
but
we
was
trying
to
make
this
only
with
bch
gs,
so
using
the
transaction
builder
and
stuff
like
this
one.
So
you
you
give
up
on
this
project
like
using.
C
Well,
what
I
kept
seeing
references
to
as
I
did
some
research
was
that
the
the
paid,
a
multi-sig
type
of
transaction,
that
bchjs
creates,
is
like
the
old-school
way
of
doing
this,
that
almost
nobody
does
anymore
electron
cash
and
and
this
bit
core
library
they
use
pay
to
pay
to
script,
hash
addresses
to
to
implement
multisig
and-
and
that
seems
to
be
the
standard
way
to
do
it.
I
I
know-
ideally
it
would
be
great
to
do
this
bchjs.
C
What
I'm
thinking,
though,
is
that
I
mean
for
now
we
have
the
bitcore
library
that
we
can
use,
but
there's
also
the
possibility
of
bringing
the
bitcoir
library
into
the
bchjs
library,
they're
they're
very
similar.
So
I
mean
I'd
have
to
sit
down
and
look
at
it,
but
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
leaning
towards
right
now
is
to
set
up
essentially
like
to
pull
out
the
the
parts
of
the
bitcoin
library
that
are
essential
for
multi-sig
and
and
just
creating
a
multi-sig
library
within
bchjs
and
pull
that
code
into
it.
E
I
think
the
the
bchjs
library
it
does
have
a
it
has
a
little
a
p2sh.
The
transaction
builder
has
a
a
the
ad
input.
Scripts
has
a
functions
where
it
says
if
you
imp,
if
you
input
the
p2sa
script,
but
it
doesn't
accept
the
the
the
data
type
that
it
accepts
is
different
from
the
one
that
you
would
use
on
a
normal
on
a
regular
on
a
normal,
pay-to-script
hash
transaction.
E
So
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
data
it
consumes
like
the
is
that
that's
kind
of,
like
the
part
where
I
haven't
figured
out,
because
if
you
look
at
the
transaction
builder,
there's
a
there's,
an
ad
input
which
is
normal,
p,
peter
script,
hash
and
then
there's
add
input
scripts.
And
that's
where
it
says.
E
E
Like
in
this
scenario
where
people
like
using
you
know
typescript
because
but
yeah
just
that's
that's
the
point,
because
it's
you
kind
of
have
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
data
structure
it
it
wants
to
consume
right
for
that.
For
that
part
of
the
transaction.
C
Yeah,
I
I
looked
at
yeah
I'll,
just
turn
off
my
screen
sharing,
so
we
can
do
it.
I
that
that
whole
payday,
this
kind
of
gets
back
to
the
history
of
bchjs
and
bitbox
and
bitcore
how
they
all
have
a
common.
C
I
think
they
all
originated
from
a
library
called
bitcoin
js
and
that
was
abandoned
and
then
forked
into
these
different
projects,
and
so
when
gabriel
cardona
created
bitbox,
which
is
where
bchjs
came
from
the
that
whole
pay-to-script
hash
thing
was
like
not
fully
baked
at
that
time,
and
so
it
basically
got
frozen,
stayed
in
that
state,
and
that
is
a
big
chunk
of
that
bit.
C
Core
improved
upon
and
their
fork
and-
and
I
and
the
extent
of
my
like
meddling
in
that
area
with
bchjs,
was
with
slp
tokens,
because
there
was
chunks
of
that
code
that
were
screwing
up
the
slp
token
op
returns,
and
so
I
ended
up
having
to
create.
I
think
it's
called
like
encode2,
which
is
like
just
used
for
slp
tokens,
because
the
original
encode
function
like
screws
them
up
and
so
yeah,
so
that
that's
why
I'm
leaning
towards
like
okay
well
so
bitcourse.
C
C
The
script
hash
is
a
is
a
huge
I
mean
I
I
I
especially
with
cash
script
like
rosco
kalis,
who
created
that
was
part
of
my
work
group
at
bitcoin.com,
I'm
still
in
really
good
friends
with
him,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
I.
C
I
probably
would
be
good
to
have
a
talk
with
him
and
see
what
he
advises
in
terms
of
the
best
path
forward,
because
I
don't
know
if
they
still
use
bitbox
for
loading,
the
output
of
the
cache
script
app
or
if
they
use
the
bitcore
library
or
how
they
actually
get
it
from
cache
script
and
into
an
actual
transaction.
C
C
Yeah
yeah,
the
nice
thing
about
bitcore,
is
that
they
have
these
very
high
level.
Abstracted
function
calls
but,
like
you
said,
they're
expecting
like
their
packaged
data
object,
which
is
very
unique
to
their
library
and
and
so
like
that's.
What
tripped
me
up
is
is
I
they
were
like.
Oh,
it
needs
a
private
key.
Okay.
I
know
what
a
private
key
is,
but
it's
like.
No,
it's
not
it's
a
private
key
object
with
like
a.
C
That's
like
more
than
just
the
private
key
and
interesting.
F
Yeah
also
they
they
have
a
different
like
how
to
see
this
coding
style
they're,
like
chaining
all
of
the
of
the
methods
like
transaction
from
dot
dot.
It
become
one
big
like
line,
so
it's
pretty
different
from
our
current.
Like
examples
like
code,
it
will
be
a
little
tricky
to
to
to
make
it
like
part
of
the
examples
like
yeah.
C
Yeah
well,
and
so
that's
the
well,
so
my
thoughts
are
the
same
as
you're
stoing.
So
that's
why
I'm
thinking
I
need
to
look
at
the
code
and
see
what
the
dependency
tree
looks
like,
because
that'll
determine
the
decision
on
this.
But
that's
why
I'm
thinking
like
maybe
the
best
bet
is
just
to
make
a
multi-sig
library
like
a
whole
library,
just
dedicated
to
multisick
that
pulls
in
just
their
parts
of
the
code,
just
for
multisig
and
can,
and
so
we
can
kind
of
almost
abstract
it
away.
C
Because
what
was
the
other
thing
that
you
said
you
said
something
else
I
was
going
to
segue
into,
but
yeah
yeah.
F
It's
it's
just
a
small
wrapper
around
this
different
codes
and
to
call
it
like
bch
dot,
booty
seek
and
just
like
use
it.
Oh.
C
Like
usual,
you
said
slp
token,
so
this
is
so
now
that
I
can
generate
a
multi-sig
transaction
and
and
spend
it
really.
The
only
thing
after
this
now
is
just
to
add
the
not
return
output
to
make
it
work
with
slp
tokens.
C
So
that's
going
to
be
the
next
also
probably
pulling
this
library
into
bchjs
and
abstracting.
It
is
one
task
and
then,
and
then
adding
the
you
know,
making
those
transactions
work
with
slp
tokens
would
be
another
whole
step,
but
but
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
that
with
that
step,
that's
I'm
not
not
I'm
not
intimidated
by
that,
but
but
we're
close
I
mean
we.
C
We
have
a
pretty
clear
path
from
here
to
getting
to
a
minting
council
that
can
create
you
know
no
central
point
of
failure
and
can
kick-start
this
vision
of
of
using
the
psf
token
as
a
as
a
you
know,
gaining
value
as
a
as
a
medium
of
exchanging
value
across
chains.
C
So
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
with
you
guys
is
rate
limits,
and
I
want
to
share
with
you
some
stats
from
fullstack.cache,
because
I
think
the
lessons
from
that
is
going
to
like
what
I
ultimately
want
to
get
to
is
is
a
discussion
about
how
we
want
to
apply
rate
limits
or
if
we
want
to
apply
rate
limits
to
our
web
3
infrastructure
and
I
aaron
sonmen
and
sam.
C
I
wanted
you
guys
wanted
to
get
your
opinion,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
running
cash
stacks
and
so
you
know,
you've
got
you've,
got
a
you're
in
the
you're
in
the
ditches
digging
with
me,
so
I
wanna,
I
wanna
your
input's
really
valuable
here.
C
So
let
me
just
show
you
what
I'm
talking
about
and
part
of
the
reason
why
I
don't
trust
just
my
judgment
here
is
because
I'm
a
little
scarred
from
my
time
at
bitcoin.com,
because
what
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
today
is
exactly
what
killed
my
whole
team
at
bitcoin.com.
C
Oh
that's,
not
what
I
wanted
either.
I
want
these
ones,
so
this
is
metrics.fullstack.cache.
So
this
is
what
I
a
bvt
that
I
designed
called
it's
for:
build
verify
test
system,
and
so
every
like
two
hours,
it
runs.
It
checks
all
the
infrastructure
to
make
sure
that
it's
alive
and
responsive
and
then
at
the
end
it
does
a
log
analysis.
It
downloads
like
100,
megabytes
of
logs
and
then
analyzes
them.
C
So
our
servers
are
currently
getting
just
shy
of
three
and
a
half
million
requests
a
day,
wow
yeah,
which
is
a
significant
growth
and
in
fact
it's
such
a
big
growth
rate
that
I
was
like
there's.
These
can't
be
right.
These
can't
be
right,
but
they
are
kind
of
right
and,
as
I
dug
into
the
data
so
about
you
know,
let
me
look
at
my
notes.
C
I
kind
of
summarized
everything
here
so
about
92
percent
of
the
responses
are
304
http
304,
which
means
like
they're,
requesting
the
same
data
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
so
304
means
hey.
You
know
the
data
I
just
gave
you
a
few
seconds
ago.
The
data
hasn't
changed
so
just
use
that,
and
so,
as
the
304
prevents
data
from
going
over
the
wire.
What
it
doesn't
do,
however,
is
prevent
the
the
cache
stack
from
computing
that
data,
so
it
doesn't
save
us
in
anything
in
terms
of
computational
load.
C
It
just
prevents
the
data
from
going
back
out
over
the
internet,
and
so
the
the
number
one
response
is
this
electrum
x
balance
so
they're
just
checking
the
balance
of
a
bitcoin
cash
address,
and
that
makes
up
96
of
the
calls
or
just
this
one,
this
one
end
point
and
and
they're
just
doing
it
so
so
at
full
stack
dot
cash.
C
So
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
here,
so
at
bitcoin.com
we
experience
the
same
things
like
just
ginormous
exponential
rate
and
growth,
and
we
couldn't
get
ahead
of
the
curve,
no
matter
how
many,
how
much
computing
resources
we
threw
at
this
thing,
people
just
consumed
more
and
more
of
it
because
a
lot
of
it-
and
you
know
I
mean
you-
can
kind
of
tease
us
out
from
the
data
so
like
93
of
the
calls
are
just
to
one
endpoint
and
if
I
look
at
the
ip
addresses
I
should
blow
this
up,
so
you
guys
can
see
this
better.
C
So
this
is
like
so
this
list
here.
This
ip
address
is
making
the
most
calls
of
every
ip
address
and,
let's
see,
I
think
it's
repeated
here
196..
C
So
in
this
little
chunk,
which
is
like
an
hour
and
a
half
worth
of
logs,
it
got
1420
calls
to
go
through,
but
the
majority
4
000
of
them
were
returned
as
422.
That's
the
false,
but
like
it
did
it,
it
basically
hit
our
rate
limit.
So
what
a
lot
of
these
the
major
consumers
are
doing
is
they're
just
running
their
software
as
fast
as
they
can,
and
they
don't
care
that
they're
hitting
rate
limits
they're
just
taking
what
they
can
whenever
they
can.
C
So
so
there's
just
like
ping
ping,
ping,
ping,
422
no
no
big
deal
and
then,
if
it
goes
through,
then
they
update
whatever
their
software,
is
and
so
they're
just
slamming
our
sys
the
system
as
hard
as
they
can
and-
and
so
it's.
This
is
basically
like
really
bad
coding,
but
we
can't
force
people
to
be
good
coders.
You
know
all
we
can
do
is
set
rate
limits.
D
C
I
think
this
is
the
root
of
the
problem
that
we
were
running
into,
but
the
big
problem
at
bitcoin.com
was
that
the
people
like
me
and
the
trenches
in
middle
management
and
top
level
management
couldn't
align
on
a
on
what
the
root
cause
was
and
what
a
solution
was,
and
so
we
just
died
from
paralysis,
okay
and
so
yeah.
So
that's
that's
what
I'm
kind
of,
but
we
don't
have.
We
have
a
horizontal
org
structure
here,
so
so
we're
all
engineers-
and
we
can
just
have
a
conversation
about
the
data.
F
B
D
E
C
C
195
000
pro
requests
that
are
processed
in
these
logs,
which
again
is
just
like
an
hour
and
a
half
33
of
them
originated
from
full
stack
dot
cash
so
like
they're,
coming
from
like
wallet.fullstack.cash
125
use,
shot
tokens
and
the
vast
vast
majority
are
not
using
the
jot
token
and
they're
not
originating
from
a
full
stack
dot
cash
origin
or
one
of
the
other
white
lit
like
ps
foundation,
or
something
like
that.
C
Dot
cash,
so
yeah,
they're
they're,
just
people
who
are
trying
to
get
the
the
free
resources
and
and
are
trying
to
use
that
20
requests
per
minute,
free
tier
that
that
we
offer,
and
so
the
reason
why
I
bring
this
up
with
you.
Guys
is
because
this
you,
as
operators
of
the
cash
stack
you're,
going
to
see
this
exact
same
traffic
profile
and
as
a
community.
I
want
to
incentivize
people
to
run
cash
stacks,
which
means
we
have
to
the
incentives
to
run.
C
A
cash
stack
has
to
be
greater
than
the
cost
of
of
this
of
this
behavior,
and-
and
so
I
don't
so
and
and
so
I'm
so
so
coming
back
around
to
how
this
concerns
fullstack.cache.
C
Like
these
numbers
are
interesting
because,
like
fullstack.cache
is
supposed
to
make
money-
and
we
can
see
here
that
far
less
than
one
percent
of
the
amount
of
traffic
is
generating
money-
the
vast
majority
is
is
free
loaders.
This
is
a
free.
This
is
a
free
classic,
freeloader
problem,
and
so
a
couple
techniques
that
I've
done
and
in
fact
now
that
I've
looked
at
the
data.
C
There's
actually
a
pretty
simple
solution
to
this,
and
it's
maybe
not
even
a
problem,
and
let
me
just
talk
to
that
directly
and
then
I'll
talk
about
sort
of
different,
different
solutions
that
we
might
be
able
to
erect
that
I've
come
up
with,
and
I
want
to
get
your
feedback
on
in
this
particular
specific
example.
You
know
this
is
an
engineering
problem,
so
I
think
the
proper
approach
is
to
look
at
the
data
and
come
up
with
an
engineering
solution,
because
93
of
the
hits
are
just
going
to
this.
C
I'm
thinking
I
could
just
do
a
cash
like
a
five
second
cash,
where,
if
you
hit
this
one
specific
endpoint
and
the
data's
in
the
cache
and
it's
less
than
five
seconds
old,
then
it
just
returns
the
data
from
the
cache,
and
so
the
data
doesn't
actually
go
down
to
any
lower
level
beyond
vch
api.
It
doesn't
actually
hit
the
indexer
and
caught
and
and
extract
a
computational
cost.
C
You
know
if,
if
this
data
shape
changes
that
solution
no
longer
works
like
if,
if
if
people
started
hitting,
you
know
the
price
endpoint
or
slp
index
or
instead
like
just
a
different
endpoint,
I
can
apply
that
cache
technique
to
you
know
other
endpoints
but
anyways.
I
think
that's
the
surgical
response
to
this
specific
data
shape.
E
Is
there
like
a
big
like
market
or
like
as
far
as
bch
like
endpoints,
to
get
this
kind
of
data
is
like
or
is
like
full
stack
that
cash
like
one
of
the
primary
providers
of
I
know
I
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
options,
but
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
with
that
whole.
C
Like
there's,
there's
a
handful
of
people,
that
of
companies
that
provide
the
same
resources
that
fullstack.caches,
like
maybe
two
I
think
blockchair,
has
an
api
one
and.
C
Yeah,
yeah
and
but
bitcoin.com
referred
a
lot
of
the
traffic
to
us.
They
used
to
be
the
go-to
place
for
this
information,
but
they've
shut
down
their
servers
because
of
this
exact
same
problem
and
they
told
everybody
to
go
to
fullstack.cache,
and
so
that's
where
a
lot
of
this
traffic's
coming
from-
and
it's
I
mean,
like
I
said
like
this-
this-
this
traffic
ramped
up
over
a
fairly
short
period
of
time,
and
so
it's
clear
to
see
like
the
reason
it's
not
that
we
are
taking
on
like
huge
numbers
of
new
users.
C
It's
that
we
have
a
handful
of
users
that
are
just
maximizing
like
just
slamming
this
thing,
almost
like
a
dos
attack.
But
no
and
the
other
thing
I
dug
a
little
deeper
into
fulcrum,
and
even
despite
so
so,
this
endpoint
is
actually
going.
So
the
fulcrum
indexer
is
actually
servicing
like
all
of
these.
C
These
hits
they
are
actually
making
it
all
the
way
to
the
indexer,
and
I
have
two
of
them
and
they're
load
balanced.
They
didn't
put
any
numbers
down,
but
I
did
like
glances,
so
I
could
see
the
computational
load
and
they're
fine
they're,
not
really
using
an
excessive
amount
of
memory
or
cpu
power,
because
they're
really
just
it's
a
level
db,
so
they're
just
doing
a
lookup
table
real
quick,
so
the
system's
actually
doing
fine
under
this
kind
of
a
load.
C
So
that's
really
good
and
we
can
also
expect
that
same
behavior
with
the
cache
deck,
because
it's
all
the
same
software.
C
So
those
are
a
few
little
little
caveats
but
but
dealing
with
this
bigger
problem
of
these
rate
limits,
and
just
knowing
that,
like
this,
this
is
just
a
matter
of
scale
like
it
doesn't
matter.
If
the
number's
three
and
a
half
million
or
35
million
like
it's,
it's
gonna
get
to
35
million
because
we're
just
basically
dealing
with
human
nature
here
and
so
what
I've
done
at
fullstack.cache
is
I've
instituted
this
20
rpm
rate
limit.
C
Where,
like
that's,
what
you
get
for
free
and
if
you
want
more,
then
you
have
to
pay
and
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
maybe
that
we
should
implement
that
with
the
with
the
the
ipfs
web3
infrastructure
make
that
the
same
and
by
pay.
So
in
the
case
of
fullstack.cache,
we
have
a
centralized
off
server,
but
we
can't
do
that
here,
but
what
we
can
do
so
with
fullstack.cache.
We
have
a
centralized
off
server.
You
pay
for
a
shot
token,
and
then,
when
you
make
a
request,
you
present
that
jot
token.
C
C
Access
to
any
cash
stack
on
the
network,
and
so
and
and
so
whatever
computer
on
the
network,
cache
deck,
you're
you're
using
you
pass
in
this
transaction
id
in
the
header
and
then
the
cache
stack
side
of
things
would
have
its
own
cache
where
it
tracks.
You
know
if
it
sees
a
transaction
id,
I
it
validates
it
to
make
sure
that
it's
an
actual
proof
of
burn,
and
then
it
caches
it.
So
it
doesn't
have
to
do
that
validation
process
every
time,
but,
like
that's
basically
like
okay,
this.
C
This
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
this.
The
transaction
happened
at
this
time,
so
24
hours
from
there
it
expires,
and
so
we
can
get
the
same
exact,
essentially
business
model
or
user
experience
of
a
jot
token,
in
a
more
decentralized
way,
without
having
a
centralized
off.
So
so
we
we
could.
We
could
implement
this,
but
that's
also
adding
friction
and
one
of
the
things
I'm
trying
to
balance
here.
C
Is
that,
like
we
want
to
make
onboarding
as
easy
and
low
friction
as
possible,
like
we
want
people
to
use
it,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
to.
We
have
to
think
about.
You
know
abusive
use
cases
like
what
we're
seeing
and
find
and
and
find
the
right
balance.
So
you
know
ideally
I'd
like
to
keep
everything
free
and
the
other
thing
that's
in
our
favor
for
the
web.
3
infrastructure
is
that
ipfs
introduces
its
own
latency,
which
can
be
fairly
significant.
C
So
that's
going
to
slow
things
down
naturally,
and
then
also
we
have
redundant
servers.
You
know
people
aren't
just
going
to
full
stack
dot
cash,
they're,
they're,
picking
one
of
the
cash
stacks
on
the
network
and
using
that
one,
and
so
the
traffic
will
naturally
also
get
divided
up
by
the
number
of
cash
stacks.
So
those
are
other
considerations,
but
you
know
so
now
that
I've
kind
of
explained
it.
C
What
are
your
guys's
thoughts
in
terms
of
like
incentives
like
you're?
Like
you
know,
I'm
trying
to
put
myself
into
your
shoes
where
you're
at
home
you've
got
some
internet
connection.
Hopefully
it's
fiber,
but
maybe
it's
not,
and
and
so
all
this
traffic
is
probably
a
real
concern
to
you
and
I
want
you
to
run
your
own
cash
deck,
and
I
want
you
to
incentivize
you
to
share
that
resource
with
the
community.
C
E
Well
I'll
say
right
now,
as
far
as
I've
been
monitoring
my
the
stack
since
it's
only
over
ipfs,
I
haven't
really
seen
like
any
traffic
on
this
machine.
So
maybe,
if
it
was
open,
I
mean
it's
not
something.
I
spent
a
lot
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
dealing
with
so.
F
E
Haven't
had
the
experience
to
or
because
I
haven't
thought
about
it
too
much
but
and
I
I
don't
know
how,
like
I'm,
I'm
on
a
residential
like
I'm
on
a
router,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
the
implications
would
be.
If,
if
you
know,
if
I
set
because
right
now,
I'm
only
using
it
for
personal
use,
but-
and
I
know
I
time
too
so
maybe
the
ipfs
latency
would
wouldn't
like
would
prevent
any
sort
of
like
major
traffic
yeah.
I
would
have
to
give
this,
like
maybe
more
thought.
C
D
Well,
I
I
agree
with
what
you're
thinking
about
in
terms
of
first
of
all,
just
put
the
cash
in
place
right
and-
and
I
also
agree
with
stoy-
and
I
don't
think
any
of
this
is
malicious,
but
at
what
point
does
it
appear
to
be,
and
how
would
we
know
and
what
do
we
do
about
it?
And
I
think
that's
probably
the
next
question,
because
I
agree,
I
don't
care
what
it
cost
me
to
run
it.
I
really
want
this
to
be
easy
to
run.
D
D
You
know
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
people
that
really
want
to
do
this
stuff
aren't
in
the
first
world
and
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
just
plug
hundred
dollars
or
five
hundred
dollars
down
on
a
server
or
anything
else
or
even
buy
a
job
token
right.
So
so
I
agree
with
you
and
and
I'm
willing
to
I
mean
I
do
wish.
I
had
a
fiber
connection
here
but
like
to
sam's
point
with
ipfs
delay.
D
C
Yeah:
okay,
okay,
so
yeah.
What
I'm
hearing
is,
let's,
let's
wait
and
see
how
it
evolves
and
that's
probably,
the
the
prudent
the
prudence.
F
E
C
Yeah,
so
a
couple
couple
things
there.
You
said
that
I
want
to
comment
on
first
this
discussion
of
maliciousness,
it's
sort
of
like
the
discussion
between
censorship
and
scale
scaling
at
some
point.
Those
two
things
are
impossible
like.
If
you
get
a
404
error,
does
it
mean
that
somebody's
trying
to
stencil
your
data
or
that
the
server
fell
over
because
it
can't
scale
it's
sort
of
the
same
thing?
It's
like
it's
like.
C
D
C
C
The
model
that
I
have
been
trying
to
get
other
businesses
to
adopt
is
the
model
that
the
suite
uses,
the
sweet,
dot
io
we
fullstack.cache
runs
their
their
infrastructure
and
so
and
they
have
a
phone
app
and
so
what
they
do
is
they
have
a
essentially
a
gateway.
So
people
hit
the
suite
io
servers
and
then,
on
the
back
end,
their
servers
talk
to
our
infrastructure
and
so
and
they
run
isolated
infrastructure.
C
That
model
doesn't
really
apply
to
the
web.
3
infrastructure
that
we're
running
because
yeah
we
do
want
these
phone
apps
and
we
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
phone
app
that
sort
of
the
path
that
we've
I've
chosen
to
go
we'll
see.
If
this
was
a
good
decision
or
not,
is
you
go
into
the
config
section
and
you
pick
what
backend
server
you
want
to
talk
to,
and
so,
if
you're,
if
it's
not
working,
you
just
pick
a
different
server
and
and
so
we're
able
to
split
that
load
up
among
the
community.
C
And
you
know
another
thing
that
we
haven't
talked
about
yet,
is
that
I
mean
right
now
we're
just
kind
of
running
these
cash
stacks,
because
it's
all
new
and
and
we're
excited
about
it.
And
but
the
plan
is
to
have
these
bounties
pay
out
every
month
and
the
amount
that
they
pay
out
should
more
than
compensate
for
the
cost
of
running
this
infrastructure.
C
In
the
cloud
like
properly
and
I'm,
I
still
want
to
go
down
that
down
that
path,
so
that
will
also
help
mitigate
this
stuff,
like
hopefully,
as
the
traffic
ramps.
Up
our
token
value
and
our
ability
to
pay
bounties
to
run
reliable
infrastructure
also
increases,
and
I
think,
if,
as
we
continue
to
focus
on
bridges
and
and
the
decks,
that
will
be
the
case.
E
Wasn't
the
the
the
free
tier
like
traffic,
all
supposed
to
I
mean
as
far
as
some
of
the
new
wallets,
like
all
the
all
of
all
the
apis,
go
directly
to
the
I
to
the
web.
3
stack
if
I'm.
C
Yeah
yeah
free
free
dash,
bch
dot,
full
stack,
dot
cash.
So
I've
got
that
running
on.
That's
that's
I
can.
I
have
the
ability
to
point
it
to
different
web
3
server
cache
stacks,
but
I
have
it
primarily
pointed
to
a
computer,
that's
in
portland
on
a
fiber
connection
that,
like
nobody
uses,
so
it's
fine.
If
we
overload
it-
and
it's
also
fine
if
it
falls
over
because
because
that
just
incentivizes
people
to
move
to
a
different
server.
C
You
know
another
option
that
we
could
do
is
I
can
show
a
diagram
of
our
web3
cache
stack
if
it
helps.
But,
but
basically
you
know,
ipfs
is
this
bus
and
that
bch
consumer
ipfs
consumer
one
that
runs
the
local
back
end.
We
could
have
that
load
net
load
balance
right
now.
You
just
tell
it
what
what
cash
stack
you
want
to
point
it
to,
but
that
could
actually
load
balance
and
and
bouncer
like
around
to
whatever
server
seems
to
be
the
best
at
the
moment.
C
So
that's
another!
You
know
possibility
that
we
could
that
we
could
do
load.
Balancing
is
kind
of
tricky,
though,
where
you
can
have
like
every
like.
If
you
do
round
robin
load
balancing
you
can
have
like
every
other
call
fail
and
that
that
really
screws
with
apps
you
know,
so
that's
not
a
silver
bullet
either.
D
Okay,
oh
so
a
bitcoin
payment
module
called
out
my
psf
dog
yeah.
D
Yeah
yeah
he's
fading.
I
have
to
say
so.
Thanks
for
the
comments
on
youtube
chris,
I
I'm
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
say.
Is
I've
never
been
through
this
like
you've
been
through
this
before
you
see
what
the
engineering
options
are,
so
I
certainly
trust
your
judgment
better
than
my
own,
and
I
also
feel
like
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
the
reasons
we
join.
This
is
because
we
want
to
help
support
this
as
well.
D
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it,
but
I'd
have
to
say
that
I
would
certainly
trust
your
judgment
more
than
my
own,
given
my
lack
of
track
record
on
this
sure
sure.
C
Yeah
yeah
and
if
it
was
as
simple
as
like
just
making
the
right
decision,
I
would
do
that,
but
this
is
this:
is
all
trade?
It's
a
multivariate
trade-off.
It's
like
it's
not
just
like
either
or
it's
like.
Well.
If
we
move
this,
then
these
other
three
things
you
know
I
have
to
adjust
as
well
right
and
if
all
of
a
sudden,
it
started
working
a
whole
bunch.
D
C
Well,
so
I'm
just
I'm
glad
we've
had
this
discussion.
Let's
continue
to
have
the
discussion
and
be
aware
and
I'll
share.
You
know
findings
with
you
guys,
but
yeah.
It's
just.
I
know
from
experience
that
if
we
don't
plan,
have
a
plan
to
deal
with
this
like
it
will
bite
us
in
the
ass
guaranteed
and
and
so
we're
a
lot,
hopefully
we're
a
long
ways
off
from
from
that
that
point,
but
yeah,
just
just
well
food
for
thought.
We'll
continue
to
have
discussions
about
this
all
right.
C
Well,
so
that
you
know
it's
been
a
little
bit
about
an
hour,
but
I'm
hoping
I'm
happy
to
open
the
table
up
to
anything
else.
You
guys
want
to
discuss.
D
Crazy
money
says
we
need
to
start
using
starlink
to
back
our
ipfs
that
way
they
can
exist
anywhere.
These
servers
I've
been
on
the
waiting
list
for
two
years.
A
All
right,
so
this
is
the
anaconda
prompt
and
I'm
just
going
to
show
you
this
from
go.
So
here.
A
A
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
a
point
cloud,
so
it's
got
four
dimensions
instead
of
three
so
like
it's
resolving
and
we
can
start
moving
it
around
and
this
was
actually
a
data
set.
I
had
a
really
hard
time
reproducing
with
photogrammetry,
and
it
did
it
with
this
and
like
there's
as
this
is
resolving.
You
can
even
see
that
there's
a
bird
up
on
the
lighthouse
right
there
and
never
would
have
caught
that
before.
A
But
I'll
I'll
zoom
out
and
show
you
the
actual
cube.
So
this
is
the
actual
cube
of
the
nerf
and
so
there's
just
a
lot
of
experimentation.
I
got
to
do
to
see
what
works,
but
what
is
kind
of
cool
is,
as
it
resolves
it's
almost
like
it's
you're
on
the
misty
beach
here
you
know
right.
A
So
the
it's
a
matter
of
like
figuring
out
what
photos
to
put
in
how
to
put
them
in
what
size
they
need
to
be
what
perspective
they
need
to
be,
and
video
talks
about
being
able
to
do
this
with
like
four
photos
or
something
like
that,
but
you
can
see
as
as
I
let
this
run,
the
model's
going
even
faster,
and
then
let's
see
here
where
was
that
that's
the
depth
of
field
where's,
okay,
so
this
whole
program
has
some
really
cool
stuff
that
you
can
do
like
we
can
take
a
look
at
this
is
just
a
shader
and
let's
see
we
can
take
a
look
at
our
normals
and
normals
are
where
the
light
thinks
it
should
be
hitting
they.
A
A
So
there's
a
there's
really
a
lot
of,
and
some
of
this
just
cool,
I
think
it'd
be
really
neat
to
just
be
like
all
right.
There's
the
video
you
know
this
this
lighthouse
but
yeah.
This
is
a
series
of
like
only
200
some
photos
from
a
drone
which
is.
E
A
Incredible
that
it's
able
to
produce
this
type
of
resolution-
and
it's
only
getting
better
I'm
just-
I
have
to
experiment
with
that.
How
many
photos
I
can
hit
it
with
and
then
from
here.
I
think
you
can
export
meshes
and
stuff
like
that.
I
haven't
done
that
yet,
but
the
idea
is,
let
me
go
back
up
to
the
shade.
A
The
idea
is
that
you
know
as
we're
able
to
export
this
stuff,
and
my
hope
is
to
I'll
stop
sharing
here.
My
hope
is
to
be
able
to
utilize
bch,
ecash
avex
nfts
and
take
what
I've
learned
from
ethereum
with
resolving
metadata
and
hopefully
be
able
to
resolve.
A
Nerfs
have
the
nerf
information
there
and
then
have
you
be
able
to
pull
that
in
to
a
program
say
on
your
computer
and
stream
that
from
ipfs
that
sort
of
thing
so
that
maybe
you'd,
maybe
the
the
nft
itself,
is
that
transform.json
object
and
actually
let
me
pull
up
a
vs
code
and
I
can
share
one
more
time
and
I
can
show
you
guys
what
the
transform.json
looks
like.
A
So
this
is
the
transform.json
file
and
we'll
start
at
the
top
here.
It
gives
you
different,
cam
camera
angles
and
you
can
change
the
scale
factors
kind
of
a
resolution.
Factor
16
is
kind
of
standard,
especially
for
a
scene
like
this.
A
If
you're
smaller
objects,
you
can
go,
you
can
actually
go
smaller,
but
you
can
see
the
what
you
get
is
a
transform
matrix
of
these
x
y
and
z
points,
and
then
these
are
references
within
the
cube
for
where
those
where
the
gpu
should
put
those
so
and
then
it's
it's
got
a
little
sharpness
thing,
but
you
have
to
run.
A
A
I
want
to
figure
out
how
to
take
the
bch
wallet
starter
and
maybe
add
some
3js,
where
we
can
resolve
3d
metadata,
and
I
got
to
figure
out
how
openc
is
using
what
they
call
animation,
url
or
your
yeah
animation,
url
and
story,
and
I
have
talked
about
it.
A
It's
not
a
standard
on
ethereum,
but
I
think
we
could
use
a
similar
thing
for
bch,
avax
and
ecash,
where
they
can
read
the
metadata,
that's
to
attach
to
the
nft
and
then
go
resolve
that
from
ipfs
and
then
what
we
need
on
the
client
side
is
something
like
babylon,
js
or
3js,
that
can
resolve
some
of
these
assets
and
these
objects.
A
And
when
we
can
get
to
that
position,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
huge
market
open
up
for
game
devs,
because
it
is
so
cheap
to
produce
nfts
on
bch,
it's
ridiculously
cheap.
I
mean
people
are
harping
on
loopering,
causing
costing
like
70
cents
to
produce
an
nft
and
game
stops,
setting
up
their
entire
environment
on
top
of
it.
When
it
cost
me
a
tenth
of
a
cent
to
produce
an
nft
on
bch
and
you
could
as
a
game
dev
producing
10
000
objects
that
go
in
your
game.
A
And
then
the
next
step
after
that
is
to
look
into
porting
the
bch
wallet
that
resolves
the
metadata
into
unity,
which
has
already
been
done
with
metamask.
So
you
can
draw
call
in
an
nft
object
from
ipfs
into
unity,
and
I
think
I
showed
calling
it
from
unity
or
ipfs
one
time.
C
Nice
well
aaron.
Let
me
sort
of
show
while
you're
talking,
I
was
able
to
pull
a
few
things
up,
so
let
me
show
kind
of
where
the
decks
and
the
ability
to
attach
data
to
nf
to
tokens
where
how
that's
kind
of
shaping
up
so
what
was
slowing
down
my
computer
before
is
I
was,
I
was
doing
a
remote
desktop
connection
to
the
raspberry
pi,
because
I
wanted
to
show
you
what
the
decks
actually
looked
like,
and
so
I
just
managed
to
take
a
screenshot.
C
So
this
is
what
it
actually
looks
like
you
know.
It
looks
a
lot
like
wallet.fullstack.cache,
but
there's
this
order
list
and
so
you've
got
the
ticker
and
then
you've
got
the
token
id,
which
is
a
link
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
this
in
a
minute
and
then
a
link
to
the
actual
data
on
the
pay
to
write
database.
C
You've
got
so
like
one
token,
one
trout
token
at
5000
satoshi's
each
you
know
is
a
total
of
5000
satoshi's
or
about
two
cents,
and
so
here's
that
stroop
waffle,
so
he's
got
500
or
let's
see
10
tokens
at
500
stats
each.
So
that's
5
000
sets
for
a
total
of
2
cents,
so
that's
kind
of
how
it's
shaping
up
and
right
now.
So
what
I
want
is
this
token
id
when
you
click
on
that
it'll.
C
Take
you
to
this
page
at
token.fullstack.cache,
and
this
gets
back
to
the
mutable
data
library
that
is
being
sponsored
by
launchpadip.com,
and
so
this
is
an
example
of
a
token
in
my
wallet
at
that
fullstack.cache
with
a
token
icon.
So
this
is
an
example
of
mutable
data,
and
so,
if
I
put
the
information
for
this
token
into
token.fullstack.cache,
it's
tokenid
what
it
does
is
it
loads
the
token
icon
and
then
it
tries
to
load
the
immutable
data
and
the
mutable
data.
Now
this
this
token
doesn't
have
any
immutable
data.
C
But
that
would
be
you
know,
information,
that's
not
going
to
change.
So,
like
the
author
and
the
context
and
anything
that,
like
at
the
time
of
creation,
you
want
to
record
that's
never
ever
going
to
change
that
would
go
in
the
mutable
data,
so
that
would
be
actually
like
that.
So
that
would
be
the
pointer
to
say
like
the
the
3d
model
or
whatever.
C
If
it's
an
item
stay
in
the
metaverse
they
want
to
bring
in
and
then
there's
this
mutable
data
section
here
that
controls
the
the
token
icon
and
any
other
information
that
we
want
to
add.
But
so
this
is,
the
workflow
is
you'd,
create
an
nft
and
when
you
load
it,
when
you
create
it,
you
would
look,
you
would
attach.
You
know
the
3d
information
or
or
whatever
you
want,
and
that
could
go
in
either
the
mutable
or
the
immutable
data.
So
you
as
the
designer
and
developer,
can
make
that
decision.
C
So
it
looks
nice
when
somebody
puts
it
in
their
wallet
and
and
then
you
could
put
it
up
on
the
decks
and
people
can
click
on
it
and
and
pull
up
this
page
and
information
about
the
token
before
they
buy
it
and
then
they
buy
it
and
it
moves
into
their
wallet
and
they're
able
to
and
then
and
then,
when
that
happens,
the
the
mutable
data
is
still
under
your
control
as
the
as
the
creator,
and
so
you
can
use
that
to
have
a
relationship
with
the
the
person
who
owns
the
token.
C
So
if
they,
if
you
need
to
pass
them
encrypted
data,
actually
you
don't
even
need
communication
from
them.
If,
if
if
this
was
something
like
a
consumable
like
where
you
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
had
the
encrypted
copy
of
it,
you
could
then
use
that
token
as
a
homing
beacon
to
send
them
directly
encrypted
data
that's
encrypted
to
their
their
private
key
for
the
address
that's
currently
holding
the
token
and
then,
if
the
token
exchanges
or
moves
hands,
you
can
always
re
use
that
homing
beacon
feature.
E
C
Also
use
this
mutable
data
as
like
a
certificate
of
authenticity
that,
like.
E
C
Like
yeah,
you
might
have
bought
in
this
token,
but
I,
as
the
token
creator,
have
not
gotten
my
commission,
and
so
I
do
not
recognize
you
as
the
current
like.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
the
current
the
token
is
just
in
flux.
Right
now,
I
don't
know
who
owns
it.
Yeah,
the
last
documented
owner
you
know
is,
is
this
and
I
have
control
over
that
data,
so
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
this
can
be
sliced
and
diced.
D
A
Well,
it
does
allow
you
to
do
stuff
like
so
like
3d
assets
are
rather
large,
so
my
solution
for
it
is
to
put
the
smaller
asset
on
there
so
that
it
can
show
up
in
a
marketplace
for
sale
and
it
resolves
quick
enough
that
people
aren't
going
to
click
off
it.
But
when
you
buy
it,
then
you
can
airdrop
the
larger
data
or
or
a
link
to
the
larger
data
file,
because
if
I'm,
if
I'm
a
3d
guy,
I
don't
want
a
you
know:
50
megabyte
glb.
A
I
want
the
700
megabyte
glb,
you
know,
because
I
I
want
full
resolution
to
take
into
blender
or
3ds
max
and
mess
with
it.
So
that's
a
great
solution
as
well.
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
json
so
with
the
json,
are
you
pointing
to
an
ipfs
immutable
spot
and
then
pointing
to
a
transaction
id
for
the
mutable
data?
Is
that
that
how
it
is.
C
Yeah
both
both
the
mutable
and
immutable
data
is
pointing
to
an
ipfs
some
data
on
ipfs,
so
okay,
yeah
and
so
the
the
they're
they're
different.
But
you
know
the
one
one
is
goes
into
the
document
hash
and
or
the
document
url,
and
that's
the
immutable
data
yeah.
C
A
Having
proper
resolution
and
a
marketplace
within
bch
you
know
is
going
to,
I
think,
lead
a
lot
of
nft
creators
that
there's
you
know,
story
and
I've
been
kind
of
diving
into
the
nft
world,
and
there
are
like
two
sides
of
the
coin:
there's
a
lot
of
get
rich,
quick
people
that,
like
they
just
want
to
sell,
nfts
and
get
money,
and
then
there's
guys
like
us
that
are
like.
A
We
see
a
lot
of
utility
in
this
for
future
business
and
we
want
to
see
that
utility
developed
and
being
able
to
move
to
cheaper
chains
once
the
bridges
are
stood
up,
being
able
to
transfer
those
nfts
between
those
chains
to
allow
the
end
user
to
not
be
not
be
siloed
with
their
nft
is.
A
E
C
Well,
if
we
have
the,
if
you
do
it
on
this
is
where
I
think
avalanche
could
really
shine
because
they
have
all
that
natively
built
in.
So
if
you
do
an
nft
on
avalanche,
then
I
think
you
can
move
that
nft
over
to
the
ethereum
chain
and
back
again
I
don't
know
for
sure.
I've
never
tried
that
but
nft
the
the
way,
the
fungible.
So
who
was
I
talking
to?
C
I
can't
remember
who
I
was
talking
to,
but
I
was
given
like
a
for
instance
with
like
like
dash
core
group.
You
know
they
have
their
own
dow
and
they
fund
dash
development
and
I'm
I'm,
I
know
a
few
people
over
there,
and
so
once
we
get,
this
text
stood
up.
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
dash
core
group
and
I'm
going
to
say,
hey,
create
an
slp
token,
that's
dash,
and
then
you
manage
that
token.
C
But
as
long
as
as
long
as
you
are
the
central
authority
issuing
that
token,
anyone
else
can
set
up
a
bridge,
they
can
exchange
tokens
on
the
decks
and
they
can
set
up
a
bridge
between
dash
and
bitcoin
cash
and
honor
that
token
you
don't
actually
have
to
be
in
charge
of
that.
All
the
dash
core
group
needs
to
do
is
manage
the
the
supply
of
slp
tokens
and
because
there's
one
central
authority,
that's
like
this
is
the
official
dash
token.
C
Anybody
else
can
set
up
a
bridge,
the
actual
operation
of
of
the
bridge,
so
the
bridges
themselves
become
decentralized
rather
than
having
like
a
bunch
of
people
trying
to
honor
their
own
variation
of
the
dash
token,
and
then
that
gets
really
confusing,
really
fast.
Yeah.
C
Like
the
caveat
is
with
these
bridges
is
and
it
and
if
you
think
about
it,
it
works
because
the
vast
majority
of
tokens
are
centrally
issued,
anyways,
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
decentralized
tokens,
and-
and
so,
if
a
if
a
central
organization
like
the
psf,
I
mean
that's,
we're
gonna
do
the
same
thing.
This
is
why
the
minting
council
is
so
important
is
if
we
have
a
minting
council
that
is
in
charge
of
the
inventory
of
psf
tokens
on
all
the
different
chains
and
they
issue
the
official
token.
C
Well,
then,
everybody
else
can
set
up
bridges
and
use
the
tokens
on
all
these
other
chains,
but
it
all
come,
but
it
all
comes
back
to
like
there's
one
token
and
that
token
is
and
somebody's
in
charge
of
that
token
yeah,
and
so
it
works
really
good
for
fungible
tokens
nfts
are
like
a
whole.
You
know
different
type
of
engineering
problem
yeah.
You
know
you
can
do
things
like
rapping
like
like
someone
could
be
like
like
that,
could
just
be
a
service
that
someone
says
stuff
like
yeah.
C
Send
me
your
nft
and
will
hold
it
in
custody,
like
maybe
with
a
multi-signature
wallet
or
or
something
but
basically,
and
then
we'll
create
a
synthetic
token
on
it
on
this
other
chain.
That
represents
your
nft
on
the
bch
chain
or
yeah.
A
I
mean
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because,
like
defy
kingdom,
for
instance,
they
they
built
a
game
on
harmony
and
they're
gonna
launch
their
their
expansion
on
avalanche
right.
So
what
are
those
people
with
harmony?
How
do
they
get
their
assets
over
to
avalanche?
Well,
doing
exactly
that
sounds
great
wrap
it
you
know,
send
it
wrap
it
and
essentially
mint
it
on
avalanche
for
you
to
use
in
the
game.
There.
D
F
C
I
don't
I've
sort
of
deliberately
not
been
paying
attention
to
it,
because
it's
I.
I
can't
separate
the
hype
from
fact
right
now.
It
would
require
a
lot
of
effort
to
to
sift
through
all
that,
and
I
mean
I
my
I
like
I
like
what
they're
doing.
I
don't
know
if
I
trust
it,
but
I
like
it
and
in
the
whole
the
whole
the
the
whole
name.
Resolution
thing
is
a
little
wonky
because
ultimately
it
comes
down
to
the
web
browser,
and
so
some
web
browsers
have
been
really
progressive.
C
I
think
safari
is
it
safari
and
brave
that
you
know
they've
been
working
pretty
good
with
unstoppable
domains
and
and
that's
sort
of
caught
on
with
the
ethereum
naming
service,
but
I
don't
think
the
support
for
for
the
e
system
is
as
good
as
unstoppable
domains
and
then
bch
is
modeled
after
the
eth
system.
So
it's
like
you
know
you
can't,
so
I
could
be
totally
wrong
about
what
I'm
about
to
say,
but
but
I
think
that,
in
order
to
share
one
of
those
bch
domains
is
like
some.
C
The
the
user
has
to
install
a
browser
extension,
and
so
you
can't
just
like
share
the
link.
It
won't
just
naturally
resolve
if
someone
clicks
on
it.
But
again
I
could
be
wrong
about
that,
but.
F
Did
this
hot
seat,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
wario
addresses,
but
this
address
is
there
mostly
for
the
for
the
wallet
address
the
ethereum
one
they
because
hot
sea,
it's
pretty
simple
system,
they
just
mint
one
nft,
send
it
to
this
wallet
and
anytime.
You
want
to
see
some
like
name
to
wallet
address.
B
F
Nft
will
hold
some
metadata
and
like
you're
talking,
if
you
want
to
have
a
website
resolution,
it's
maybe
a
different
problem.
Maybe
you
need
some
extension
to
do
this
or
getting
nft
something
something.
But
my
point
was
that
all
of
this
ans
or
this
bch
it's
on
smart
bch
right,
but
they
was
talking
about
the
resolving
dc
in
ec
an
electron
cash
wallet.
F
C
Yeah,
I
know-
and
that's
that's
the
other
reason
why
I'm
super
skeptical,
because
it's
like
okay,
they
have
pay
codes,
which
is
another
new
feature.
They
add
electron
cash
and
they're
great,
but
it
only
like
the
the
feature
is
so
complex
that
no
other
wallet
has
implemented
it
and
no
other
wallet
is
likely
to
implement
it.
So
like
pay
codes
and
cash
fusion,
and
now
this
name
service
like
like
they're
all
so
complex,
that
only
the
geeks
who,
like
the
handful
of
geeks,
who
do
electron
cash,
are
like.
C
Actually
you
like
can
use
it,
because
it's
like
the
the
feature
is
not
supported
anywhere
else
and
so,
like
I
just
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
to
feel
about.
A
It
honestly
it's
just
it.
I
know,
there's
ways
to
resolve
the
e
s
address,
but
soy
is
right
a
lot
of
times
it's
used
for
you
know
sending
somebody
cash
like
an
easy
like
I
went
and
gotten
etherdress
aaronshoemaker.eth
and
I
I
want
to
do
a
bch
address
as
well
just
to
just
to
do
it,
but
as
far
as
resolving
it
to
a
website,
you
know
you
you
really
have
to
web
2.
You
would
have
to
like
do
something
with
the
c
name.
A
You
know
to
to
resolve
that
sort
of
thing
like
all
right,
you're
putting
this
in,
and
it's
going
to
point
you
towards
this.
You
know
ip
address
web
3,
I
I
don't
know
if
you
could
attach
it
to
a
cid.
You
know,
but
then
you
know
you
would
have
to
implement
something
like
you
did
with
that.
Web3.Storage.
A
Where
you
get
the
html
program,
that's
coring,
the
blockchain
for
updates.
You
know
the
blog
thing
you
did.
I
don't
know
if
the
piece
is
there
between
the
like
dot
ether,
dot,
bch
and
resolution.
At
this
point.
C
Yeah
so,
and-
and
that's
that
I
like
how
you
put
that
I'm
I'm
like
cautiously
optimistic,
like
I
hope
that
they'll
come
up
with
some
sort
of
smooth
system
for
this
to
work
and
and
I'm
just
kind
of
waiting
to
see
how
that
how
that
pans
out,
one
thought
I
had
was
using
the
pay
to
write
database.
That
would
be
a
perfect
application
for
this
kind
of
name
resolver,
because
because
we
have
multiple,
you
know
it's
it's
a
peer-to-peer
database,
so
there's
multiple
copies
that
exist
all
over
the
place.
C
So
like
you,
don't
need
to
go
to
whatever.com
like
you're,
not
you're,
not
restricted
to
onesingle.com
to
access
the
database
to
do
that
sort
of
name
resolution.
So
what
I'm
hoping
is
you
know,
give
give
the
team
that's
working
on
it
time
to
refine
it
and
at
least
get
it
into
electron
cash
play
with
it
see
how
it
works,
and
then
you
know
if
it.
If
it
works
great,
then
it
works
great
and
that's
awesome.
C
But
if
it
doesn't
work
great,
then
maybe
we
can
build
a
bridge
between
whatever
they
come
up
with
in
the
pay
direct
database
and
have
a
just
basically
use
the
pay
to
write
database
as
a
sort
of
proxy
for
whatever
system,
they're,
building
and
and
sort
of
incorporate
it,
and
just
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day
what
they
have
to
do.
If
they
want
mass
adoption,
is
they
have
to
produce
a
library
that
wallet
developers
can
easily
plug
into
their
wallet
so
that
this
whole
name
resolution
thing
works.
A
Well
and
the
web
developers
themselves
need
to
have
a
simple
way
to
build
websites
on
web3.
That's
you
know
not
not
a
pain
in
the
butt.
They
need
to
be
able
to
have
a
dns
that
can't
be
taken
away
from
them.
I'm
not
totally
sold
on
the
dot
eth
because,
like
I
had
to
pay
for
like
three
years
to
have
the
name.
So,
okay,
I
don't
really
have
the
name.
Then
it's
going
into
a
smart
contract
that
assigns
my
address
to
that.
You
know
that
dot
eth
address.
A
And
if
somebody
wanted
to
censor
me,
they
could
contact
the
eth
organization
and
say
write
them
out
of
the
contract
and
they
would
just
you
know,
pull
up
the
contract,
write
the
code,
I'm
blocked
now
you
know
or
definitely
another.
F
A
Thing
that
could
be
malicious
is
say,
I'm
making
money
and
I'm
putting
out
my
aaron
shoemaker.eth
and
somebody
either
somebody
gets
access
to
the
contract.
That's
not
supposed
to,
or
maybe
the
company
itself
decides
we're
going
to
change
the
address
that
resolves
to
so
that
now
I
got
a
company
where
people
are
sending
me
eth,
but
it's
not
going
to
me
it's
going
to
the
new
address.
They
wrote
on
the
contract.
A
A
C
B
C
A
C
C
F
No,
my
point
was
more
like
now
all
of
this
solution.
It's
a
smart
bch,
not
on
bch
itself.
So
will
they
need
the
this
smart
vch
held
c
all
the
time,
so
there
will
be
never
like
native
pch
solution
for
this,
because
I've
done
the
same
with.
If
you
remember,
with
of
these
on
bch
right
right.
F
C
That's
the
thing
is
this:
is
I
don't
know
how
many
political
cans
of
worms
I
want
to
open
here,
but
there's
like
so
open
them
all.
C
Why
why
ecash
forked
away
is
because
they
didn't
want
to
deal
with
all
these
noise
makers
and
the
the
the
largest
population
noisemakers
has
now
moved
to
smart,
bch
and
so
they're
and
and
the
thing
that
the
thing
that
I
think
sort
of
fingerprints
this
group
is
that
they're
constantly
chasing
hype.
They're
constantly
like
oh,
that
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
Let's
do
that!
Yeah
everybody!
C
But
but
it's
like
that's
why
I'm
like
skeptical,
because
it's
it's,
this
very
hype,
driven
group
of
people
that
that
move
from
one
popular
thing
to
another
popular
thing
and
they
just
leave
a
wake
of
destruction
in
their
path
of
like
half
built,
abandoned
projects,
and
so
I'm
really
glad
that
that
group
has
moved
away
from
slp
tokens
on
the
main
chain.
Because
now
it's
like
it's
just
us,
we
don't
we
don't
have
to.
C
We
don't
have
to
fight
for
attention
span
because,
as
far
as
that
group
is
concerned,
like
slp
is
dead
and
they've
moved
on,
and-
and
it's
like
great
that's
awesome,
because
this
is
a
protocol
and
it
doesn't
change
and
there's
a
lot
of
value
and
it
still
needs
a
lot
of
work.
So
giddy
up,
you
know
so
yeah.
I
think.
C
F
Somebody
just
needed
to
put
a
little
more
time
to
to
to
make
it
better,
maybe,
but
like
yeah
group
50s,
I
don't
think
even
somebody
else
had
this
like
group
anything
children
nfts
this
system
was
great.
I
think
it
will
be
still
great
if
we
can
see
the
the
sop
like
index
servers
problem
like
we
have.
E
A
I
I
agree
stewie,
and
I
think
that
now
that
the
indexer's
up
there
is
and
it's
running
well
that
means
that
myself
or
whoever
else
can
invest
time
in
producing
a
front-end
resolution
for
the
metadata
right,
so
that.
E
A
Can
actually
implement
a
marketplace
that
works
whereas
before
you
know
because
the
slp
was
not
working
as
well,
it
was
really
large.
There
was
less
incentive
to
do
so,
but
the
cheap
and
easy
way
of
producing
nfts
on
bch.
I
think
I
I'm
still
very
bullish
on
and
that
next
step
for
me
is
being
able
to
say
all
right.
I
put
this
3d
asset
up.
A
Here's
a
bch
or
a
wallet
starter
that
I've
forked
and
I've
added
3js
to
so
that
when
you
go
to
the
nft
in
your
wallet,
you
actually
see
a
viewer
of
your
3d
object
like
you,
don't
even
have
to
go
to
ipfs.
You
can
stay
in
your
wallet
and
view
view
your
object,
and
then
you
know
it's
going
all
right.
How
do
I
integrate
this
into
blender?
C
B
E
You
know
a
question
I
was.
I
read
that
thread
on
twitter
that
you
posted
about.
I
guess
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
new,
an
upgrade
in
may
for
maybe
b
or
bchn.
E
It
seems
to
be
like
some
loss
of
confidence,
maybe
in
the
in
bch
right.
B
E
C
Know
yeah,
it
was
just
a
political
football
and
I
was
just
calling
attention.
I
wasn't
trying
to
call
attention
to
the
article.
I
was
trying
to
call
attention
to
the
fact
that
it's
being
used
as
a
political
football,
the-
what
is
happening
in
in
may
is
there's
two
upgrades.
There's
gonna
be
transaction
introspection
which
is
going
to
be
really
cool
because
now
you'll
be
most
of
these
have
to
do
with
cash
script
and
and
pay
to
script,
hash
transactions
and
and
general
protocols
is,
has
been
the
one.
C
That's
really
been
pushing
this,
and
so
there's
transaction
introspection,
so
it'll
allow
transactions
to
inspect
the
transaction
that
they're
trying
to
spend
like
they
can
read
the
op
return
and
or
or
read
like
the
addresses
that
it's
that
the
money's
coming
from
or
going
to
and
then
like
do
logic
based
on
those
things
like
within
the
script.
So
that's
never
existed
before
and
that's
going
to
open
a
whole
bunch
of
new
possibilities
and
then
the
other
change
is
in
integer
size.
C
So
then,
armani
who
wrote
that
article
that
was
in
my
tweet
storm
he
he
maintains
be
cash,
which
is
a
javascript,
full
node
implementation
and
he
decided
not
to
upgrade
be
cached
for
those
new
features,
which
means
the
cache
will
get
forked
off
the
network
and
so
he's
just
gonna
he's
just
gonna,
conserve
his
energy
and
and
focus
on
ecash,
and
I'm
I'm
at
the
same
place
where
it's
like.
C
C
A
C
C
So
much
I
appreciate
you
guys,
coming
and
yeah
great
discussion
and
and
yeah
really
really
appreciate
the
just
being
able
to
share
those
details
on
the
rate
limits
with
you
guys
and
it's
definitely
a
problem
that
will
become
more
of
a
problem,
and
so
we
just
need
to
continue
thinking
about
how
as
a
community,
we
want
to
approach
it,
because
I
mean
that's
the
thing.
C
This
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
have
our
own
token
and
I'm
excited
to
do
a
minting
council
and
and
have
the
token,
be
truly
governed
by
multiple
people,
and
you
know
and
build
this
business
model
and
be
a
self-sustaining
thing
and
as
part
of
that,
we're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
these
rate
limit
issues.
That's
gonna
be
a
big,
a
big
thing
in
the
future.