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A
A
A
We're
live
so
welcome.
Everybody
today
is
april
13th.
This
is
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
technical
steering
committee
meeting.
A
I
am
chris
trouttner
and
I'm
joined
by
the
regular
caster
crew
here,
not
not
all
of
them,
but
but
some
of
them
let's
go
ahead
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
david.
Why
don't
you
start.
C
Sure
my
name
is
david
alvin
and
I
am
a
big
fan
and
supporter
of
commissional
software
foundation
and
the
work
of
chris
and
all
the
other
fine
people
that
are
doing
good
work.
B
My
name
is
aaron
shoemaker
and
I've
been
with
the
I'm
going
on
a
year
anniversary
with
you
guys,
so
I've
been
working
on
the
nft
side
of
things
and
the
visual
side
of
things
and
utilizing
bch
for
that
bch
ecash
avex,
whatever
works.
A
E
It
just
means
an
earthling,
so
I'm
just
rookie
here
and
if
I
have
any
like
extravagant
questions
that
may
help
me
achieve
my
goals
in
creating
a
decentralized
platform
for
the
indigenous
people
of
estonia,
then
I
shoot
away,
but
otherwise
I'm
just
listening.
Thanks.
A
That's
great
yeah,
thank
you
for
joining
and
yeah
helping
small
communities
is
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
I
I
live
in
a
small
community
and
and
I'm
constantly
like
brainstorming
ways
to
foster
local
trade
outside
the
purview
of
the
state
here
in
my
own
local
community
and
building
tools
for
other
local
communities.
To
do
the
same.
So
thanks
for
joining.
A
Ever
as
we've
done
in
previous
weeks,
we
have
this
meeting
every
two
weeks.
This
is
basically
our
our
opportunity
to
celebrate
technical
achievements
over
the
last
couple
weeks
since
our
last
meeting
and
but
we
we
are
growing
and
some
of
the
things
we're
going
to
talk
today
about.
I
want
to
get
into
an
open
discussion
about
a
tentative
road
map
for
the
psf
and
sort
of
some
of
the
opportunities,
and
we've
been
building
a
lot
of
tech
for
a
while
and
and
there's.
A
I
think,
some
very
big
lucrative
opportunities
on
the
horizon
and
the
question
really
is:
how
do
we
want
to
approach
them
so
so
we'll
get
to
that?
But
as
we
grow,
I'm
hoping
to
spin
off
additional
focus
groups
from
this
meeting
for
specific
technologies.
One
that
I
have
in
mind
in
particular,
is
the
the
the
decks
the
and
the
bridges
for
for
trading
tokens.
A
I
think
that
that
will
has
the
potential
to
very
quickly
accelerate
and
become
not
only
extremely
profitable,
but
also
attract
a
lot
of
mind
share
and,
and
if,
if
that
happens,
then
we'll
probably
want
to
spin
that
out
as
its
own,
its
own
group,
but
but
for
now
we're
just
having
these
these
more
informal
meetings
and
just
we're
celebrating
our
achievements
and
so
we'll
go
through
the
agenda
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
we'll
have
a
just
a
roundtable
discussion
to
discuss
whatever
we
want
to
talk
about
that's
technical
in
nature,
and
so
let's
get
started
with
that.
A
The
scope
of
the
meeting
is
to
discuss
the
psf
course
software,
so
I've
got
a
list
here
of
a
lot
of
the
different
different
software.
I
actually
need
to
add
a
few
items
to
this
list,
but
this
is
the
the
core
software
that
the
psf
maintains
and
all
other
things
like
the
decks
and
other
things
are
built
on
top
of,
and
so
in
terms
of
tech
updates.
A
I
wanted
to
call
out
that
the
the
cash
stack
documentation
has
been
published,
and
this
this
explains
this
is
going
to
end
up
being
like
our
canonical
documentation.
That
explains
how
all
the
software
that
we
build
and
maintain
fits
together
in
order
to
build
web
2
and
web
3
apps.
So
right
now
it's
at
this
sort
of
there's
a
link
in
the
agenda.
A
If
people
want
to
click
on
this
link,
and-
and
it's
got
this
weird
url
eventually
probably
next
week-
it
will
land
at
cash
stack
dot
info,
I
registered
that
domain
name,
so
it
will
eventually
be
there.
The
documentation
is
done.
I
just
need
to
do
that
final
part
of
moving
it
to
its
own
domain
name,
but
if
people
go
there
there
are
links
to
our
telegram
and
our
getter
channel.
We
have
two
channels
in
case
one
ever
gets
censored.
A
We
have
a
fallback
and
they're
bridged,
so
anything
that
happens
in
one
channel
gets
reflected
in
the
other.
We've
got
a
link
to
the
video
section
on
the
psf
website.
A
This
is
for
people
who
are
more
video
oriented
that
that
seems
to
be
a
better
way
to
communicate
like
step-by-step
directions
and
then
but
but
really
the
site
is
based
around
the
docs,
so
you
can
either
click
on
the
redox
button
or
the
redox
button
up
here
and
what
it
does
is,
there's
an
introduction
and
then
it
talks
about
the
front
end,
the
local
backend
and
the
global
backend
lots
of
graphs,
but
the
main-
and
it
talks
about
the
differences
between
web
2
and
web
3.,
because
everyone's
got
a
slightly
diff
different
definition
of
what
those
are.
A
So
so
one
of
the
main
objectives
of
this
documentation
is
to
be
very
clear
on
what
we
mean
by
web3
and
and
then
it
sort
of
it
starts
at
a
very
high
level,
walking
through,
like
big
boxes
of
like
the
whole
stack
of
software,
of
how
you
know
a
phone
app
goes
all
the
way
down
to
the
blockchain
and
and
then
the
the
following
sections
go
into
more
depth
onto
the
three
main
sections,
the
front
end
local
back-end
and
global
back-end.
A
So
I
really
encourage
people
to
read
this
feedback.
It's
it's
all
open
source,
there's
links
to
the
github
repo
where
this
documentation
live.
So
if
someone
sees
a
typo
or
they
have
a
suggestion,
they
don't
need
to.
They
don't
need
to
ask
for
permission.
They
can
just
go
to
the
github
repo
and
submit
a
full
request
and
that's
the
best
way
to
contribute
to
this
documentation.
A
A
The
reason
we
exist
is
up
at
the
top
here
that
our
focus
is
on
censorship,
resistance,
self-sufficiency
primarily
and
then
everything
else
is
just
technology
to
achieve
the
the
psf
mission,
which
is
to
help
individuals
protected
privacy,
circumvent
censorship
and
engage
in
economic
activity.
B
So
down
at
the
cache
stack
web
threes,
cache
stack
just
to
clarify
here
the
ipfs
service
consumer
rest
api.
That
is
something
that,
if
I'm
connecting
my
application,
I'm
running
and
then
I'm
reaching
out
to
an
ips
service
provider
which
could
be
anybody.
That's
running
a
cash
stack,
a
web3
cash
stack.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
if
we're
talking
about
the
scope
of
web
3,
not
web
2
web
3
is
different
in
that
it
has
many
redundant
back-end
services
that
that
are
offered
for
free
by
the
community.
I
mean
they're
incentivized
to
do
so,
and
so
the
the
service
provider
is
the
mirror
image
of
the
service
of
the
consumer.
So
there's
it's.
Unfortunately,
this
image
is
really
small.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
there
we
go
so
up
here.
A
You
have
a
phone
app
and
that's
going
to
call
a
javascript
library
called
bch
consumer,
and
then
that
is
going
to
call
ipfs
bch
wallet
consumer,
which
it
bridges
across
the
ipfs
network
to
the
ipfs
bch
service
provider.
D
B
A
And
what's
nice
about
this?
I
mean
it
graphically.
It
looks
like
more
complex
than
the
web
2
scenario,
but
actually
in
web
2.
You
have
to
worry
about
devops
and
networking
and
firewalls,
and
all
that
stuff
and
in
and
ipfs
takes
care
of
all
of
that
for
us.
B
D
A
sec,
I
also
have
a
question
yeah.
Does
the
documentation
includes
also
the
like
a
minimal
hardware
requirement
to
run
every
of
these
blocks,
and
does
it
have
like
you
had
some
like
ready
packages
before,
like,
I
think,
docker
images
for
all
of
the
parts?
So
does
the
documentation
have
like
download
link
where
to
go
for
this
blog,
for
example,.
A
Yeah
yeah
so
you're
you're,
referring
mostly
to
the
the
global
back
end,
and
so
I
this
section
talks
about
that
where
to
find
the
docker
containers
where
to
find
the
precinct
databases
and
then
the
video
section
here
you
asked
about
target
hardware,
and
so
the
video
section
calls
out
the
target
hardware
so
for
consumer
devices,
we're
targeting
the
raspberry
pi
4
in
terms
of
a
development
environment
like
a
lightweight
development
environment.
So
this
can
obviously
run
on
a
bigger
computer.
A
But
but
this
is
sort
of
our
hardware
threshold
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
then
for
the
global
back
end.
We
have
this
video
down
here
in
the
devops
infrastructure
section,
so
the
global
back-end
is
targeting
a
desktop
computer
with
32
gigs
of
ram
and
a
one
terabyte
hard
drive.
A
Yeah
so
good
questions
guys,
and
I
hope
that
yeah
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
feedback
that
I'm
glad.
I
was
able
to
have
a
quick
answer
to
your
questions
that
that
tells
me.
B
B
And
then
didn't
cool
cleaner.
He
he
set
stuff
up
on
on
cloud
stacks
right
and
if
I
remember,
I
think.
B
Like
you're
not
limited
to
just
running
your
own
computer,
you
could
also
fire
it
up
on
some
cloud
stacks,
but
also,
you
know,
be
careful
because
aws,
you
know
they're
known
for
censoring
things.
Every
now.
B
So
you
could
be
running
it
on
that
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
be
gone.
So
you
know
maybe
a
digital.
D
A
A
The
problem
is
that
it's
expensive
and
it's
really
easy
to
censor
and
those
are
the
two
problems
that
web3
solves
it's
much
less
expensive
and
it's
very
difficult
to
censor,
and
so
it's
not
that
web
3
is
better
than
web
2..
It's
that
the
use
cases
are
different.
That
web
3
caters
to
use
cases
that
web
2
does
not
cater
to.
A
So
that's
really
important
to
keep
in
mind.
That's
probably
one
of
the
biggest
different
like
I'm,
I'm,
not
the
type
of
guy.
That's
going
to
like
get
on
twitter
and
tell
everybody
like
web3
is
the
future
and
it's
awesome
and
it's
like.
No
it
it's
like
a
blockchain
it.
It's
used
for
very
specific
reasons,
and
if
you
don't
have
a
specific
reason,
then
you
probably
shouldn't
use
it.
D
D
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
I'm
I'm
sort
of
refining
that
so
you
guys
have
seen
like
the
paper
wallet.
If
you
go
to
paperwallet.fullstack.cache
just
loads,
this
temporary
splash
page
that
takes
you
to
the
actual
app
that
is
on
filecoin,
and
so
you
know
you
notice
that
took
a
few
seconds.
So
I'm
trying
to
make
that
a
little
faster
and
but
anybody
who
has
this
actual
hash
can
retrieve
this
from
from
ipfs
and
and
so
it
can't
really
be
censored.
B
And
if,
if
it's
pinned
by
more
people
like,
let
me
get
out
of
my
screen
here
and
if
it's
pinned
by
more
people
won't
want
to
help
the
resolution
depending
on
location.
D
The
better!
Okay!
What
if
we
create
the
nft
group
and
every
chart
in
these
two
to
point
to
these
pages?
It
will
become
manual
and
it
will
be
indexed
because
it
will
be
one
group
and
it
will
be
sensor
like
resistant.
A
Yeah
yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
the
direction
I
want
to
head
into
stoyan
yeah,
you're
kind
of
jumping
ahead,
in
fact
jumping
ahead
in
the
agenda,
but
let
me
just
show
you
one
of
the
things
that's
on
the
agenda
that
I
was
going
to
show
you
guys.
B
I
totally
agree
with
the
story
and
because
I'm
I'm
about
to
pin
it
right
now
for
you,
you
know
nice
so
appreciation.
It
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
figure
out
how
we
could
cluster
pin
without
giving
full
control
to
everybody's
individual
nodes
too.
A
Yeah
well
so
well
we're
kind
of
jumping
around,
but
I
guess.
A
Well
so
so
I
think
we
need
to
step
back
because
right
now
what
story
was
referring
to
with
group
token,
so
so
in
bch
we
have
the
slp
tokens
and
we
have
our
own
nft
specification
and
they're
a
bit
different.
They
work
differently
than
or
they
they
work
the
same,
but
the
architecture
is
different
than
in
the
ethereum
world,
and
so
we
create
a
group
token,
which
is
like
I
like
to
think
of
it,
like
a
stem
cell
that
hasn't
like
specialized.
A
Yet
so
you
create
a
group
token
like
paintings,
and
then
you
generate
nft
children
from
that
group
token,
so
you
have
the
mona
lisa
and
you
have
you
know
a
picasso
like
those
are
specific,
unique
paintings
and
because
of
this
architecture,
someone
can
just
query
the
one
single
group
token
and
find
all
the
children
nfts
were
generated
from
that
group
token.
A
For
for
looking
up
web
pages
easily,
you
can
just
query
one
single
token
and
then
and
then
resolve
you
know
subdomains
from
that
that
group
token,
which
would
be
the
child
nfts
and
I'd
very
much
like
to
get
and
so,
and
so,
following
that
theme
stoyan,
this
is
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
show
off
later
on
in
the
agenda,
but
I'm
working
with
launchpad
ip
to
their
they're.
A
Really
they
really
want
to
tokenize
intellectual
property
documents
and
so
we're
building
a
series
of
prototypes
and
they
are
funding
all
of
the
development
of
the
mutable
token
stuff,
so
so
being
able
to
attach
changeable
data
to
to
a
token,
and
so
this
is
where
we're
at
with
it.
We've
got
this
it's
at
token.fullstack.cache
and
you
can
put
in
a
token
id
and
it
will
give
you
back
this
data
now.
Every
token
has
this
genesis.
Let
me
make
this
bigger.
A
Every
token.
Has
this
genesis
data
so
this
this
is
new.
We
just
added
this,
so
this
will
give
you
like
the
raw
token
genesis
information
and
then,
if
it
follows
this
specification
that
I
just
updated,
which
is
in
our
psf
specifications
repository
it's
number
two
on
slp
mutable
data.
I
just
updated
this.
A
This
app
will
try
to
retrieve
the
mutable
and
the
immutable
data,
so
there's
a
section
where
you
can
link
to
an
ipfs
document
for
immutable
data.
So
if
this
was
a
piece
of
art,
you
would
record
like
the
date
it
was
created,
the
artist
all
the
stuff
about
the
artwork,
that's
never
going
to
change
and
and
then
in
the
mutable
data
section
is
stuff
that
you
would
change
that
changes
over
time
like,
like,
perhaps
ownership
like
this,
this
would
perhaps
be
could
function
as
a
certificate
of
authenticity.
A
The
artist
would
retain
the
key
that
lets
them.
Update
the
mutable
data
and
then
the
person
who
buys
the
artwork
represented
by
the
nft
would
would
go
to
the
artist
and
say:
hey:
can
you
update?
Can
you
give
me
a
certificate
of
authenticity?
Can
you
update
the
immutable
data
to
reflect
that?
I
am
now
the
owner
of
this
and
that's
the
opportunity
for
the
artist
to
claim
commission,
which
is
usually
in
a
lot
of
artwork,
but
you
know
historically,
has
never
been
enforced.
A
I've
talked
to
several
artists
who,
who
have
had
these
commissions
built
into
their
sales
contract,
but
they
have
no
way
of
enforcing
them,
and
so
this
is
this
is
sort
of
where
we're
at
and
then
this
is
an
example
of
the
icon.
A
A
So
coming
back
to
stoian's
decentralized,
dns,
based
on
these
tokens,
the
immutable
data
will.
Actually
you
know
that
that
sort
of
architecture
of
finding
the
children
that's
baked
into
the
slp
specifications.
So
you
actually
don't
need
any
of
this
information,
but
if
you
wanted
to
explicitly
call
it
out,
the
mutable
data
would
be
one
way
to
do
that.
A
Okay,
well,
that
was
actually
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda,
so
I'm
glad
we
covered
that
so
yeah.
So
this
so
tokens.fullstack.cache
is
the
is
the
app
that
we're
building
to
to
sort
of,
as
it's
like
a
diagnostic
tool
to
to
display
these
these
tokens
with
mutable
data
and
then
but
the
specification
that
actually
describes
how
this
all
works
is
on
git
for
anybody
who
wants
to
look
at
it?
It's
on
permissionless
software
foundation,
github
group
in
a
repository
called
specifications,
and
it's
pso2
for
slp
mutable
data.
A
So
I
just
updated
this.
It
has
the
step-by-step.
You
know
what
what
the
this
program
is
actually
doing
in
order
to
retrieve
the
data
and
then
what
the
mirror
image
of
the
program
is.
When
you
create
the
token,
which
is
also
in.
A
An
npm
package
if
anyone
wants
to
create
tokens
with
mutable
data,
it's
slp
mutable
data
is
the
name
of
the
javascript
library
on
npm.
It
allows
you
to
do
that
and
if
you
go
to
the
repository
there's
a
directory
with
example,
examples
for
for
creating
your
own
tokens
with
mutable
data.
The
examples
probably
need
to
be
updated.
A
lot
of
the
stuff's
in
flux
so
but
yeah,
it's
pretty
exciting.
I'm
very
so
because
this
ties
in
very
nicely
with
the
decks
like
you
can
create
an
nft
to
represent.
A
B
A
D
Already
shared
my
thoughts
on
this
in
in
telegram
so
yeah,
it
will
be
a
good
idea
to
have
like
wario
inside
this
id
part
like
not
only
the
hash,
because
we
don't
know
after
several
years.
Maybe
there
will
be
no
ipfs.
There
will
be
something
else
or
or
yeah
now
these
qm
hashes,
if
you
see
them,
okay,
it's
like
ipfs,
but
yeah,
there's
version
2
already
wario
is
different,
so
it
will
be
good
to
have
this.
Like
ipfs
colon
cool,
like
slash,
slash,
yeah,.
B
He's
right,
I
was
just
going
through
the
data
structure
of
ipfs
today
and
because
one
question
we
had
is
like,
why
is
pinata,
giving
you
a
qm?
Well,
I
found
out
that
the
reason
is
that
version
0
and
the
qm
represents
a
base.
B
56
58
encoding
algorithm,
whereas
like
the
baby
represents
base
32
so
like,
and
I
think
that
like
stoian's
right
they're
now
onto
version
two
of
that
and
how
how
it
breaks
it
up
and
they're
trying
to
make
it
so
that,
yes,
you
can
still
read
version
zero
and
version
one,
but
yeah
you're,
exactly
right.
Who
knows
if
they're
on
version
four
and
you
made
something
on
version
one
and
now
it's
not
readable
by
somebody's
ipfs.
A
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
that
that
is
actually
valuable
feedback.
It's
and
I'm
going
to
update
the
the
specification
reflect
that
so
just
anybody
who's
watching
this
trying
to
figure
out
what
we're
talking
about
in.
Actually,
I
can
visually
show
this
so
right
here
in
the
immutable
data
notice
that
there's
a
it
starts
with
qm.
A
So
that's
an
ipfs
content,
id
version,
zero
and-
and
I
struggled
whether
I
should
just
put
the
cid
in
there
because
and
the
reason
I
hesitated
about
this-
is
because
cids
are
self-describing
like
you
know
it's
a
bit
into
the
weeds
there,
but
but
they
actually
like
they
don't
they're
they're
somewhat
future
proofed
in
in
that,
like
you,
can
sort
of
interrogate
that
cid
and
ask
it
like
what
are
you
and
so
that's
why
I
hesitated
putting
like
ipfs
colon
slash
which
it
sounds
like
is
probably
the
better
thing
to
do
so.
A
We'll
do
that
and
also
you
know
like
here
in
the
mutable
now
this
is
mutable
data.
I
can
change
this,
which
is
why
I
didn't
hesitate
to
put
an
actual
like
url
with
a
gateway
included
there,
because
the
gateway
can
change.
A
But
you
know
because
it's
immutable
data
this
can
be
updated,
but
but
for
instance,
this
is,
cannot
be
updated,
it's
immutable,
so
we
need
to
think
very
carefully
about
how
we
do
that
and
so
yeah.
I
agree
with
you
guys
that
putting
in
ipfs
colon
slash
should
make
it
explicit
that
this
is
an
ipfsc
id
yeah.
D
D
Moment
everybody
likes
a
lot
ipfs,
but
it's
not
perfect.
We
have.
It's
already
have
a
lot
of
like
bad
points,
so
see,
for
example,
is
valid
options
and
we
can
have,
for
example,
the
p2
w
pay
to
write
database
here,
p2ws
and
put
like
some
other
cache
there,
and
you
can
use
our
database
to
keep
this
data.
D
A
Okay-
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
also
let
you
guys
know-
or
the
wider
community
know,
that
our
pace
of
innovation
has
been
sort
of
just
going
at
this
break
next
speed,
because
we
got
these
grants
from
avalanche
and
and
ecash
gnc,
and
so
we've
got
gary
and
daniel
they've
been
just
working
working
working
and
that's
slowing
down
now
daniel
is
now
I
mean
one.
One
reason
why
things
are
slowing
down
is
that,
oh,
let's
see
what
is.
A
That's
why
it
makes
a
good
point,
hard
note
to
yeah
yeah,
so
yeah
cool
cleaner,
concurs
with
your
guys's
input,
so
the
what
was
I
gonna
say
so:
we've
been
building
the
decks.
Daniel
is
now
working
for
launch
pad
ip
he's
working
full
time
on
on
the
the
mutable
data
stuff
and
and
and
their
goals
for
tokenizing
intellectual
property.
A
Part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
that
it
was
a
good
fit
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
psf
just
isn't
generating
any
cash
flow.
Yet
so
I
mean
anybody
who's
been
holding.
The
psf
token
has
noticed
that
the
token
price
has
gone
down
quite
a
bit
because
we've
had
money
going
out
and
very
little
money
coming
in,
and
so
I
needed
to
stop
the
the
bleeding
and,
and
so
that
meant
you
know
we
needed
to
get
daniel
off
boarded,
and
so
they
were
very
thankful
to
take
him.
A
It
was
a
good
fit
and
so
he'll
be
working.
I
mean
it's
a
launch
pad
ip
is
a
member
of
the
psf.
They
own
psf
tokens.
They're,
not
you
know
they,
don't
they
don't
participate,
I'm
essentially
their
representative.
In
these
kinds
of
meetings,
so
he's
he's
not
gone,
he's
just
a
slightly
different
role
and
then
gary's
done
an
excellent
job
with
the
avalanche
side
of
things,
but
we
hit
a
snag
with
nfts
and
and
we're
also
their
grant
was
like
half
up
front
and
half
at
the
end.
A
A
So
we've
got
a
bit
of
a
cash
flow
problem,
but
then
the
other
reason
is
that
we
we're
basically
done
with
the
prototyping
phase
of
the
decks,
and
now
we
need
to
build,
build,
develop
it
into
production.
And
so
that's
why
I've
been
focused.
I've
been
I'm,
I
have
been
focused
and
I
will
continue
probably
for
the
rest
of
this
year
to
focus
almost
exclusively
on
the
decks
and
the
technologies
that
the
decks
depend
on.
A
B
C
B
Right
is
at
this
point
in
time.
If
you
were
to
create
an
onboarding
mechanism
with
avox
and
ecash,
they
would
be
separate
tokens
on
those
chains
because
the
bridges
aren't
out
there
to
to
go
across.
A
So
this
is
probably
a
good
segue
into
our
into
the
road
map
discussion
that
I
wanted
to
have
with
you
guys
we
can
circle
back
around
and
I
can
give
a
status
update
on
the
dexes
but
yeah
so
so
to
what
you
were
to
speak
to
what
you
were
just
saying,
aaron.
So
there's
there's
two
ways
that
I
think
the
psf
token
could
significantly
increase
in
value.
A
One
is
the
dex
which,
which
is
like
I
said
it's,
it's
it's
going
great
and
the
the
in
order
to
place
an
offer
or
a
counter
offer
on
the
decks.
You
have
to
burn
0.01,
psf
tokens,
and
so,
if
we
get
the
decks
up
to
scale,
there
will
be
a
very
steady
and
pronounced
burning
of
psf
tokens
and
that
will
take
tokens
off
the
market
and
increase
the
price
of
the
tokens
that
are
on
the
market.
A
So
that'll
create
a
very
steady
and
robust
demand
for
psf
tokens
just
by
itself,
but
then
we
also
have
the
bridges-
and
this
was
this-
was
a
project
that
was
funded
by
a
member
of
all
the
labs,
and
I
don't
yeah
yeah.
It
was
just.
A
It
was
just
an
individual,
not
not
actually
ava
labs,
but
it's
what
led
to
the
avalabs
grant
for
the
dex,
and
so
that
is
code
complete,
but
it's
not
in
production
and
that
lets
you
move
tokens
between
the
avalanche
x,
chain
and
and
the
slp
tokens
on
the
bch
chain.
A
So
we
plan
to
leverage
that
that's
that's
part
of
why
we're
slowing
down
is
that
the
the
the
dex
works
is
in
terms
of
a
proof
of
concept,
and
now
it
just
needs
to
be
polished,
and
so
that's
largely
what
and
that's
kind
of
a
one-man
job
like
it's.
A
It's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
delegate
a
lot
of
that
work
because
it
requires
attention
to
detail
and-
and
so
my
plan
is
to
get
get
sort
of
a
really
nice
user
interface
finished
for
bch
port,
that
code
over
to
avalanche,
get
that
all
working
in
avalanche
fork.
The
bch
decks
to
work
on
ecash
and
so
we'll
have
three
working
dexes
on
three
chains.
A
But
they
can't
talk
to
one
another
and
that's
where
the
bridges
come
in
so
then
we
could
build
a
bridge
for
the
psf
token
across
all
these
chains,
and
I
think,
like
the
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
like
the
focal
point
of
all.
This
is
a
minting
council.
A
We
need
to
set
up
a
a
a
group
of
people
with
multi-sig
with
a
multi-signature
wallet
that
is
in
charge
of
issuing
new
tokens
and
thereby
managing
the
number
of
psf
tokens
in
circulation
with
no
central
point
of
failure,
and-
and
it's
also
really
important
to
me
that
you
know-
there's
there's
skin
in
the
game
and
right
now.
What
that
looks
to
me
is
probably
2
000
psf
tokens
to
be
on
the
minting
council.
You
would
provide
proof
of
burn
of
like
2
000
psf
tokens.
A
I
think
those
numbers
can
change,
but
just
roughly
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
where
my
head's
at
right
now
and
then
I
also
want
it
to
be
anonymous.
So
we
would
use
the
end
in
an
encrypted
messaging
that
that
we've
developed
in
the
psf
bch
wall
so
be
able
to
join
the
minting
council
anonymously,
but
prove
that
you
have
skin
in
the
game
and
then
be
able
to
coordinate
the
minting
council
over
encrypted
messaging
so
that
people
can
keep
their
anonymity.
A
That,
like
I
said
like
those
specifics,
are
all
this
is
a
discussion,
but
just
that
sort
of
where
my
head's
at.
But
if
we
did
that,
if
we
could
achieve
that,
then
we
could
have
a
token
that
cannot
be
tampered
with.
You
know
can't
be
forged
and
it
can't
be
inflated
and
and
there's
people
with
skin
in
the
game
who
are
who
are,
who
you
know,
have
incentive
to
to
to
maintain
the
value
of
that
token.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
see
several
things
here
and
let
me
try
to
break
them
down
one
by
one.
As
far
as
the
minting
council
goes
yeah,
I'm
in
line
with
that,
I'm
on
board
with
that,
I
think
you
probably
are.
B
We
need
to
decide.
Okay.
Is
it
three
of
five?
Is
it
four
of
seven
for
signatures
to
mint
new
tokens,
because
if
somebody
goes
dark,
we
don't
want
things
to
not
be
able
to
be
minted
is.
B
Is
it
going
to
be
an
nft
that
is
the
target
for
the
wallet
so
that
the
mentor
can
be
passed
on?
If
you
know
like
there,
they
just
decide.
I
don't
I
can't
you
know,
keep
up
with
this.
I'm
gonna
pass
it
on
to
somebody
else.
You
know
those
are
questions
I
have
there
and
then
those.
A
D
So
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
so
good
idea
like
it's
good
to
know
who
is
minting
tatakas.
Like
I
mean,
if
there's
like
a
multi-sick
wallet,
you
cannot
like,
for
example,
put
some
guy
in
the
jail
and
everything
will
stop,
because
it
still
will
have
the
other
people
to
to
hudsy
to
mint.
But
if
it's
anonymous
like
elon
musk,
can
open
the
tree
wallet
and
he
will
get
the
power
to
get
the
fantasy
to
mean
as
much
token
as
he
wants.
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
you're
you're
right.
We
have
to
think
very
carefully
about
this
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
all
the
incentives
are
aligned
properly.
So
just
to
just
to
talk
about
that
that
that
attack
vector.
A
So
some
of
my
thoughts
there-
and
this
is
no
my
by
this-
is
no
means
exhaustive,
but
some
of
the
things
I've
thought
through
there
is
so
if
we
had
essentially
a
buy-in
of
2000
ps,
like
you
have
to
provide
proof
that
you
burned
2000
psf
tokens,
then
the
minting
council
could
send
that
that
address
an
nft
and
to
act
as
sort
of
a
homing
beacon
and
and
so
with
that
homing
beacon.
A
The
that
person
can
now
receive
end
and
encrypted
messages,
because
because
we
know
what
bitcoin
cash
address
holds
the
nft
and
we
can
send
messages
to
that
address
and
then
in
terms
of
a
person
you
know.
Let's
say
you
know
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
civil
attack,
where
someone
has
enough
keys
to
essentially
mint
as
many
tokens
as
they
want
the
the
the
minting
council
and
at
least
in
my
again
this
is
all
discussion,
I'm
not
dictating
anything.
A
A
You
know
at
the
at
the
top
of
the
org
chart,
and
then
the
minton
council
would
would
only
mint
tokens
at
their
direction
and
if
someone
and
sort
of
like
the
nuclear
option,
if,
if
someone
civil
attacked
it,
I
mean
first
of
all,
they'd
have
to
burn
a
bunch
of
psf
tokens
to
get
to
that
level
where
they
could
meant
tokens
and
if
they
minted
tokens
willy-nilly.
A
I
that
would
be
you
know
very
detectable
and
and
then
you
know
worst
case
scenario.
We
could
just
air
create
a
new
kick
that
person
out
create
a
new
token
air
drop
a
new
token
and
that
wouldn't
be
convenient.
But
we're
talking
about
an
extreme
situation
here,
which
should
hopefully
not
happen.
A
The
the
biggest
threat
there
is,
to
the
token
liquidity
app
being
able
to
drain
the
token
liquidity
app
and
I'm
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
we
should
get
rid
of
the
token
liquidity
app.
Once
we
have
the
decks
up
and
running,
we
could
still.
Basically
anybody
could
run
their
own
token
liquidity
at
that
point.
A
But
we
don't
we
the
token
liquidity
app
like
worries
me,
because
it
is
a
central
point
of
attack
and
we
need
to
if
we
can
get
rid
of
that
central
point
of
attack,
then
then
there
there
isn't
a
huge
threat
to
someone
just
to
that
to
the
attack
vector
of
someone
getting
enough
tow
enough
keys
to
to
mint
psf
tokens
willy-nilly,
because
there
would
be
a
significant
time
lag
between
that
happening
and
then
being
able
to
do
anything
with
the
tokens
and
during
that
time
lag
we
could
kick
them
out
and
airdrop
a
new
token
and
switch
the
software
over
to
the
new
token.
D
If
we
go
on
the
other
spectre
of
this
thing,
what
if
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
mean
the
tokens
like
nobody,
don't
volunteer,
so
there's
no
incentivizing
or.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
it
would
be
good,
like
one
of
the
requirements
of
being
on
the
minting
council
would
be
that
we
do
key
rotation
every
three
months.
We
we
generate.
We
basically
throw
throw
away
the
the
old
keys
and
generate
new
keys,
and
anybody
who
doesn't
show
up
to
that
quarterly
meeting
to
to
participate
in
the
ceremony
doesn't
get
a
key.
A
B
Well,
I
think
I
think
we
talked
about
this
before,
where
you
know
getting
new
keys
could
also
be
something
where
you
burn
the
nft,
and
so
you
have
proof
of
burn
of
the
nft.
You
get
airdropped
the
one.
For
now
I
mean
this
is
where
we're
talking
about
nfts
being
a
utility,
and
not
so
much
like
this
object
that
you
hold
and
sell
you
know
so.
You
burn
the
nft
proof
of
burns
at
the
address.
B
Air
dropped,
a
new
nft
for
minting,
essentially.
D
My
my
point
was
like
anticipal
attack.
What,
if
somebody,
how
to
see
in
order
to
prevent
meeting
the
tokens
just
not
see,
there's
not
enough
people
who
can
do
the
meeting,
like
you
distribute
every
three
months
like
five
keys,
but
there's
no
three
real
guys.
So
the
meeting
cannot
happen
so
everything.
B
Is
done,
I've
got
an
idea
on
that.
If
you're
talking
about
having
the
vip
section
above
right-
and
you
could
have
them-
always
have
one
of
the
keys
to
be
that
that
extra
person
to
kick
it
over,
you
could
set
that
up
in
a
multi-seg.
If
you
wanted
to
so
that
you
know
vi
certain
certain
amount
of
vips
would
have
to
vote
to
cast
that,
but
it
could
be
that
emergency
one.
So
like
stewie
and
saying
we
don't
have
three
guys
to
to
mint.
B
Well,
that's
where
the
vip
overarch
of
the
dow
would
come
in
and
say
we
need
to
mint.
We've
said
we're
going
to
mint
we've,
given
the
instructions
to
mint
to
the
minting
council.
We
don't
have
enough
signatures
to
mint,
so
we're
going
to
pull
out
our
signature,
our
key
and
we're
going
to
be
the
third
signature
to
meant.
A
I
don't
know
what
the
right
solution
is,
yet
we
don't
need
to
come
up
with
that
in
this
meeting,
but
I
think
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
solution
and
we
a
process
that
we
can
write
down,
and
you
know
I
mean
so
my
my
thoughts
on
that
is
that
I
personally
have
a
lot
of
skin
this
game.
A
I
have
a
lot
of
tokens,
so
I
plan
on
having
just
below
the
minimum
threshold
tokens
myself,
because
if
you
know
the
I,
the
state
came
and
black
bagged
me
and
took
my
my
keys,
I
wouldn't
want
them
to
have
enough
to
mint
tokens,
so
I
would.
D
A
To
have
just
slightly
less
than
the
amount
that
I
would
need
so
that
they
they
still
need
the
cooperation
of
two
or
three
people
to
mint
tokens,
or
that
I
would
just
as
a
to
you
know
that
that's
my
personal
goal,
you
know,
so
that
would
that
would
largely
mitigate
this
issue,
but
because
the
nuclear
option
is
always
to
just
create
a
new
token
and
air
drop
it
and
fork
the
code.
You
know
it's
not
something
we
want
to
do
on
a
regular
basis,
but
it
is
always
an
option.
B
Yeah
the
other
question
I
have
too
is
that
all
right
psf
is
going
to
become
the
utility
that
fuels
the
dexes
and
the
bridges,
and
it
would
be
nice
that
somebody
doesn't
need
it
like
right
now.
It's
got
to
kind
of
be
the
step
up.
I'm
going
to
go,
get
psf
tokens,
then
I'm
going
to
participate
in
a
a
dex
exchange
in
which
the
psf
token
is
burned.
It'd,
be
very
nice,
say
I'm
on
bch
doing
tokens
and
then
part
of
that
function
is
buying
a
psf
token
and
burning
it
right
there.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
normal
users,
don't
need
to
know
or
care
about.
I
mean
all
they
would
need
to
know
is
okay.
I
I
have
bitcoin
cash
and
I
want
to
cash
that
out
into
say
a
stable
coin
on
avalanche
there's,
one
step
where
you
they
have
to
buy
psf
tokens
and
then
and
then
send
them
across
the
bridge
to
buy
the
the
stable
coin.
So
they
would
go
bch,
psf,
stablecoin,.
B
B
A
C
A
In
this
world
that
we're
projecting,
where
the
psf
token
becomes,
you
know
very
valuable
utility
token,
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case,
and
so
one
thought
I
had.
This
might
not
be
the
best
thought,
but
one
thought
I
had
is
the
vip
group,
or
possibly
the
minting
council
or
both
could
designate
two
trusted
members,
and
this
would
be
kept
secret.
A
I
don't
know
who
they'd
be
two:
oh,
preferably
not
me,
because
I'm
too
visible,
but
two
people
that
have
access
to
the
to
the
token
liquidity,
app
and
another
option
here.
Is
that
the
token
liquidity
app
could
be
tweaked
so
that
you
could
send
it
up
in
transactions
with
op
return
for
like
remote
instructions.
So
this
is
another.
A
So
this
is
another
thing
so,
like
the
minting
council,
with
their
multi-signature
wallet,
could
create
a
transaction
with
an
op
return
code
in
it
to
tell
the
token
liquidity
app
to
shut
itself
down
or
distribute
all
the
funds
to
delete
it
and
send
it
to
a
new
address
like
in
an
emergency
situation
and
then
the
token
liquidity
app
would
only
listen
to
it
if
it
was
signed
by
the
multi-signature
wallet.
It
would
ignore
any
other
trend.
You
know
anything
with
an
op
return.
A
Otherwise,
so
that's
one
option
to
have
this
sort
of
remote
control
like
so.
The
minting
council
can
have
a
remote
control
of
the
token
infiniti
app
so
that
that
would
protect
it
like
in
in
an
extreme
situation,
but
then
on
the
day-to-day
operation,
two
two
people
could
have
access
to
it.
So
if
one
person
disappears,
there's
a
redundant
backup
and
so
the
way
I'm
thinking
about
this
is
like
one
person's
not
enough,
but
you
want
to
keep
it
as
small
as
the
number
of
people
as
small
as
possible.
A
So
if
any
funny
business
happens,
you
have
a
limited
number
of
people
to
point
the
finger
at.
So
I
think
two
is
the
right
number
in
terms
of
actually
operating
the
token
liquidity
app,
because
it's
important
it
provides
liquidity
for
the
psf
token
yeah
again,
there's
there
might
be
other
those
are
just
a
couple
thoughts.
I've
had,
I
I'm
sure,
there's
there's
other
ways
to
approach
this.
D
I
think
the
the
iron
questions
maybe
was
like
in
order
to
put
an
order
on
the
decks.
You
need
to
burn
pcf
psf,
but
how
to
see.
But
you
don't
have
pc
psf
tokens
right.
So
you
need
to
right
to
put
the
bch
or
something
on
the
decks.
So
it
will
return
your
psf.
But
in
order
to
do
this
order,
you
need
psf.
A
B
Well,
that's
where
I
think
the
token
liquidity
app
can
come
into
play
automatically
if
coded
right.
So,
like
I
put
in
an
order
some
I
want
I
have
like
he
said
I
got
bch.
I
want
to
get
this
token
or
I've
got
this
token.
I
want
to
get
this
token.
Then
I
put
in
the
order
and
right
and
then
somebody
receives
the
order
and
at
that
time
of
transaction,
one
of
the
things
that
happens
in
that
stack
is
a
purchase
from
the
liquidity
app
and
a
burning
like
in
that
order.
B
So
that
those
steps
aren't
me
going.
I
got
the
the
psf
tokens
now
now,
I'm
doing
it.
It's
literally
like
I'm
on
the
decks.
I
want
token
b.
I've
got
token
a
and
then,
when
I
hit
the
transaction,
what
happens
is
some
bch
from
my
wallet
goes
and
buys
psf
token
then
burns
the
token
right
away,
and
then
the
trade
happens.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
that's:
what's
one
way
to
do
it
there
I
haven't
looked
in
it
too
thoroughly,
but
then
armani
who
created
the
swap
protocol
that
the
deck's
based
on
he
has
an
extension
for
doing
a
token
right
now.
You
can't
swap
one
token
for
another
token
directly,
because
you
can
only
have
one
type
of
token
per
transaction,
so
you
would
need
two
transactions
and
vin
has
a
protocol
for
doing
that.
You
know
but
yeah,
it's
it's
basically
generally
what
you
just
described,
yeah,
but.
D
We
already
have
multiply
up
returns
right.
There
was
change
in
the
protocol
recently,
so
I
think
this
restriction
is
already
removed.
You
cannot
have
two
tokens
or
it's
because
sop
must
always
be
the
first
right.
One
right,
yeah.
A
So
you
can
have
multiple
operations,
but
the
slp
indexer
will
ignore
them,
because
the
the
slp
information
has
to
be
the
first
output
and
it
has
to
be
an
op
return
and
then
any
additional
op
returns.
It
just
get
gets
ignored.
B
A
You're
not
like
maximizing
the
slp
like
you're,
not
you!
Basically,
you
can.
You
can
send,
I
think,
19
outputs
in
a
single
slp
transaction
so
and
that's
like
maximizing
that
single
op
return.
So
if
you
just
do
a
normal
transaction
that
involves
one
or
two
outputs,
then
you've
still
got
a
lot
of
room
for
additional
opera
turns.
B
A
B
And
then
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
from
a
liquidity,
app
either
because
say
I'm
a
psf
token
holder.
Maybe
I
put
a
certain
amount
of
tokens
up
on
the
decks
for
a
trade
right
and
because
I
want
to
make
money
off
of
the
psf
utility
token.
You
know
maybe
like
a
more
steady,
not
I'm
not
mooning
stuff,
it's
just
a
steady
income
stream,
and
so
when
somebody
goes
to
trade
token,
a
for
token
b,
they're.
B
Also
looking
you
know
if
the
liquidity
app
is
shut
down,
they're
looking
on
the
decks
for
people
that
have
put
up
psf
tokens
for
trade
for
that
purpose,
and
so
the
transaction
would
then
go
make
the
trade
for
that
burn
and
make
the
other
trade,
but
to
the
end
user,
and
maybe
there
are
multiple
transactions
there,
but
for
the
end
user,
it's
literally
like
I
hit
transaction
one.
Okay
hit
transaction
two.
They
click
two
buttons
they've
got
a
trade.
A
A
You
have
to
have
some
psf
tokens
in
your
wallet,
but
that's
it
like
you,
don't
you're
not
like
telling
it
how
many
psf
tokens
to
burn,
or
anything
like
that,
like
you,
just
need
to
have
some
some
like
not
even
a
whole
token,
like
some
tiny
amount
of
psf
in
your
wallet,
and
then
you
don't
even
have
to
think
about
it
after
that
to
use
the
decks
like
unless
you
run
out,
then
you
need
to
get
some
more
so
really
trying
to
minimize
the
cognitive
load
on
end
users.
A
So
that's
that
so
that's
one
thing
and
kind
of
spacing
on
the
other
thing,
but
oh
yeah.
So
so
here's
an
example
that
I
I
think
I
threw
out
in
a
previous
meeting
is:
I
would
love
to
work
with
the
dash
core
group
if
they
created
a
dash
slp
token
that
that
they
guaranteed
that
they
would
they
would
exchange
for
or
the
basic.
They
don't
even
need
to
do
anything
other
than
just
create
the
token
and
manage
the
supply
of
tokens
on
the
bitcoin
cash
chain.
A
And
if
they
just
did
that
one
thing,
then
anyone
could
build
a
bridge
between
the
dash
token
on
bch
and
the
actual
dash
point
on
their
blockchain,
and
so
they
wouldn't
need
to
manage
bridges.
Every
like
you
could
have
ten
bridges,
but
because
there's
one
there's
one
dash
token
there's
one
official
dash
token.
That's
that's
what's
needed
and
then
the
bridges
can
actually
be
decentralized.
Anyone
can
run
a
bridge
and
they
can
all
compete
on
like
the
transaction
fee.
A
They
charge
to
go
across
the
bridge,
so
you
could
buy
a
dash
token
on
the
exchange
and
then
find
a
bridge
one
of
many
and
then
transfer
that
token
and
get
dash.
You
know
to
your
actual
dash
wallet
on
the
dash
chain,
and
so
that
same
idea
applies
here
is
if
we
have
a
minting
council
that
manages
one
official
psf
token,
then
that
token
can
be
used
in
many
different
ways,
and
that's
why
we
may
not
need
the
token
I
mean
we.
A
I
think
we
do
are
going
to
need
the
token
liquidity
app
in
some
form
to
solve
that
chicken
and
egg
problem.
But
as
long
as
we
have
a
minting
council
who
manages
the
official
psf
token,
that
token
can
be
used
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
as
a
medium
of
value
exchange
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
completely
like
shadow
the
using
on
psf,
because
even
now
the
uni
swap
the
one
inch
all
of
them.
They
show
how
many
of
the
uni
tokens
or
like
what
was
chi
token
you
have
inside
and
depending
on
this,
you,
you
get
some
benefits
like
smaller
taxes
or
something
so
making
how
to
sell
a
complete,
just
bch
to
dash
without
people
seeing
the
pcf.
D
It's
maybe
not
needed
to
be
so
so
like
transparent,
you
just
how
to
see.
Ask
people!
Okay!
You
need
psf
tokens
in
your
wallet.
You
don't
need
to
do
anything
with
them.
Just
put
them
there.
They
will
be
shown
on
the
desk.
You
have
100
psf
in
your
token,
and
you
do
bad
dash
to,
for
example,
something
something.
C
D
B
B
B
A
It's
the
same
business
model
as
chain
link,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
seen
true
true
flation,
so
stefan
roost
rust,
who
was
the
ex-ceo
of
bitcoin.com,
he's
he's
representing
trufflation
and
they
just
won
this
hundred
thousand
dollar
award
from
bellagi
for
creating
a
decentralized
censorship-resistant
measure
of
inflation,
which
is
currently
measuring
twelve
and
a
half
percent
and
and
their
data
feed
is
on
chain
link
you,
you
can't
get
the
data
anywhere
but
chain
link
like
you
can't
there's
no
rest
api
that
you
can
query,
there's
no
account
that
you
can
open
somewhere
to
get.
A
You
have
to
use
a
smart
contract
and
get
the
data
through
chain
link,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
have
link
tokens
you
have
to
you
have
to
purchase
the
data
essentially
with
the
link
token,
that's
their
business
model,
and
so
that's
I've
been
trying
to
look
into
it
a
little
deeper
because
that's
essentially
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
like.
B
B
Yeah
and
and
then
I
think
the
question
goes
to
okay-
is
a
little
liquidity,
app
needed
to
facilitate
that
or
will
the
decks
itself
having
psf
out
on
the
decks,
be
enough
to
facilitate
that,
because
when
you're
talking
about
minting
council
on
a
minting
wallet,
you're
going
to
mint
all
these
tokens
to
the
minting
wallet
and
then
how
are
those
getting
distributed?
B
If
there's,
no,
I'm
spacing
on
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
no
liquidity
app.
There
we
go.
How
are
those
going
to
get
distributed
without
a
dis
and
liquidity
app?
Are
they
going
to
be
something
like?
I
need
psf
tokens
and
then
they're
going
to
be
open
for
trade
on
the
decks
how's
that
going
to
happen
yeah.
A
That's
the
thing
we
may
not
be
able
to
get
rid
of
the
token
liquidity
yet
because
of
that
chicken
and
egg
problem.
But
if
we
have
a
minting
council
that
is
in
charge
of
maintaining
the
official
token,
anyone
can
run
a
token
liquidity
app
at
that
point,
so
we
could
decentralize
the
token
liquidity
out,
but.
A
Yeah
and
so
in
terms
of
distributing
the
token
like
the
the
the
minting
council
would
only
create
tokens
at
the
direction
of
the
vip
group
which
would
vote
on.
You
know
we
did
we'd
go
back
to
our
voting
thing
that
we
used
to
do
where
we'd
have
a
proposal.
Air
drops
people
would
vote,
it'd,
be
yes
or
no,
and
then,
if
it's
a
yes,
then
then
the
minion
council
would
be
authorized
to
bring
new
tokens
into
existence.
A
So
I
I
I
wouldn't
want
the
council
to
be
in
the
rig
like.
Hopefully
we
shouldn't,
we
still
have
a
long
ways
to
go
before
I
mean
if
we
do
have.
If
we
do
maintain
the
token
liquidity
app
I've,
then
this
whole
time
I've
been
trying
to
get
the
token
liquidity
out
to
this
point,
where
the
peg
gets
like
the
hard
peg
to
bch,
but
we
we,
you
know,
we
got
about
220
bch
to
go
until
we're
there.
So
we
got
a
lot.
A
So
we
we
actually
shouldn't
be
bringing
any
new
bsf
tokens
into
existence.
You
know
for
a
long
time,
but
we
definitely
want
to
retain
the
ability
to
do
that
when
we
need
it.
B
Now,
when
they
are
brought
into
existence,
is
they're
going
to
be
brought
into
the
multi-sig
wallet
right
yeah.
How
does
the
distribution
happen
from
that
point?.
A
Well,
actually,
no,
not
necessarily
the
the
the
minting
baton
is
what
exists
in
the
in
the
multi-signal.
When
you
actually
use
that
to
create
new
tokens
in
that
transaction,
you
can
specify
where
you
want
them
to
land.
They
don't
have
to
land
in
the
multisig
wallet.
B
B
A
B
A
Think
we're
pretty
close,
especially
with
the
the
ability
to
do
multi-sig
wallets
and
the
the
end-to-end
encrypted
messaging
system,
which
also
uses
the
pay
to
write
database.
B
B
Yeah,
I'm
glad
I'm
a
little
glad
that
things
are
slowing
down
because
it's
you
guys
have
been
moving
so
fast.
I'm
like
I
can't
even
keep
up
with
with
everything
that
I've
been
doing.
I'm
like
I
need
to
dive
into
this,
but
it's
like
four
or
five
videos
out
a
week.
B
B
It's
loaded
and
when
can
I
use
the
pc,
psf
bch
wallet
to
from
the
client
or
command
line,
to
write
the
the
new
cid
in
there
like
doing
do
I
need
to
do
a
transaction
or
is
it
like
the
bs
bch
right
so.
D
A
So
and
that's
actually
a
script,
I
when
I
want
to
do
an
update,
I
run
npm
run
pub,
which
builds
the
stack
site
and
uploads
it
to
web3.storage,
so
uploads
it
to
the
filecoin
blockchain.
A
B
B
A
B
I
need
to
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
command
line
wallet
now.
How
do
I
write
into
the
transaction
for
this?
You
know
like
the
new
cid,
like
the
fact
that
it
makes
the
new
cid
does
the
transaction
all
in
one.
That's
awesome.
I
thought
I'd
have
to
like
go
step
by
step
like
re-upload
got
the
cid
plug
it
into.
D
A
Yeah,
so
someone
was
just
asking
me
about
this
like
so
I
have
the
unpop
uncensorablepublishing.com
and
all
that
information
on.
There
is
pretty
much
not
valid
anymore,
because
this
new
process
is
so
much
simpler
and
smoother.
It's
just
like.
Okay,
one
command
just
update
you
know,
and
it
it
resolves
faster
than
ipns
right,
yeah
yeah,
I
think
ipns
takes
about
30
seconds
and
that
lookup
on
the
blockchain
takes
about
five,
which
is
still
you
know.
B
A
Call
and
then
also
like
it,
it
just
doesn't
feel
right
to
like
look
up
something
on
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain
to
then
go
to
ipfs.
It's
like
it
almost
just
seems
like
it'd,
be
better
if
it
just
spun
up
an
ipfs
node
in
the
browser
and
then
used
ipns
to
look
it
up,
but
I'd
have
to
actually
test
that
and
see
if
ipns
is
because
I've
heard
they've
made
improvements,
but
I
haven't.
A
B
Yeah
I'll
I'll
take
a
look
at
it
and
I'll
I'll
try
ipns
as
well.
I'm
I'm
just
looking
for
ways
to
create
some
websites
that
I
know
aren't
going
to
be
taken
down
for
people.
You
know
yeah,
but
then
resolving
those
websites
becomes
an
issue.
How
fast
are
they
I
thought
maybe
like
combining
web
2
and
web
web
3
were.
B
B
A
Yeah
yeah
and
that's
the
thing
pulling
the
data
from
filecoin
there's
a
bit
of
a
lag
there,
and
so
I
think
the
fastest
way
to
do
it
is
to
set
up
your
own
gateway.
Because
then
you
have
control
of
the
look
up
time
and
and
the
pinning.
So
it
depends
on
the
use
case.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
have
a
very
specific
app
that
you
want
to
load
very
quickly.
B
Now,
when
things
are
pinned
to
a
local
machine,
they're
not
coming
from
file
coin
but
th,
then
the
other
way
is
to
store
it
on
file
coin
and
then
yeah.
It's
automatically
pinned
when
it's
on
file
coin
is
that
how
it
works.
A
Well,
so
web3.storage
is
a
so
filecoin's
just
for
storage
and
then
there's
like
the
retrieval
is,
like
a
another
whole
complex
thing
to
it.
So
what
web3.storage
does
is
it
when
you
upload
a
piece
of
data
to
web3.storage?
A
It
finds
three
miners
and
it
does
redundant
storage
with
three
different
miners
and
then,
as
part
of
that
service
of
the
miners,
who
are
part
of
the
web3.storage
service.
They
also
pin
the
content
and
make
sure
with
ipfs
and
make
sure
it's
available
over
ipfs.
So
filecoin
is
really
like
you
think
of
it.
As
like
a
tape
drive,
it's
really
slow.
A
You
know:
cold
storage
for
data,
ipfs
is
the
fast.
You
know
the
actual
retrieval
like
network,
and
so
you
can't
have
filecoin
without
ipfs.
You
have
to
have
both.
You
can
have
just
ipfs
by
itself,
but
but
filecoin
doesn't
really
do
anything
for
you.
Unless
you
also
have
an
ipfs
note
to
like
serve
that
data
once
it's
retrieved,
so
the
web3.storage.
A
You
know
they
do
the
three
redundant
services
that
also
provided
over
ipfs.
But
then
I
will,
I
will
pin
it
on
a
local
ipfs
node.
You
know
maybe
a
couple
what
I
have
in
the
cloud
when
I
have
it
home
and
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
show
with
we're,
like
stoian's
dns
idea
that
he
did
for
the
hackathon
with
nfts
and
group
tokens
that
could
be
applied
to
ipfs
hashes,
where
you
create
like
that.
A
You
know,
like
let's
say
you
know,
let's
take,
for
example,
like
the
the
wikileaks
collateral
murder
video.
You
know
that
the
government
would
rather
not
have
people
distribute.
A
You
could
turn
that
into
an
nft
just
like
this
one
that
you
know
has
whatever
amount
of
information
you
want
in
either
the
immutable
or
mutable
data,
and
so
all
you
all
the
software
has
to
do
is
is
look
up
the
the
token
id
and
then
pull
down
the
the
immutable
or
mutable
data
and,
and
then
in
this
data
you
could
have
an
array
of
like
here.
It
is
on
youtube
here
it
is
on
library.
Here
it
is
on
filecoin.
A
That's
that's
what
I'm
hoping
to
do.
I
want
to
create
a
series
of
nfts
around
my
videos,
particularly
the
opsec
ones,
and
do
it
that
way,
upload
them
on
multiple
platforms
and
then
have
one
token
that
shows
you
where
to
get
all
like
all
the
different
places
where
you
can
get
the
content
and
then
and
then,
if,
if
as
long
as
that
ipfs
hash
cid
is
is
easily
available,
then
then
people
can
voluntarily
just
pin
that
you
know
like
if
it's
a
piece
of
valuable
content
like
like
the
collateral
murder.
A
Videos
like
people
can
just
be
like.
Oh
yeah.
I
want
to
help
you
get
this
content.
You
know
I'll,
pin
it
on
my
local
note.
Well,
they
don't
have
to
ask
permission.
They
can
just
look
it
up.
B
I
would
recommend
anybody
in
the
psf
if
you're
not
comfortable,
with
the
command
line,
just
download
the
desktop
client
of
ipfs
and
spin
up
a
node
and
start
pinning
pin.
You
can
pin
some
of
the
psf
websites
that
are
on
ipfs
right
now
so
and
that
that'll
help
speed
things
up.
That's
one
thing
you
can
do
that's
very
easy
and
it'll
take
like
five
minutes
to
do
so.
A
Yeah
I
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update
on
the
decks
before
we
wrap
this
up.
So
if
people
go
to
decks.fullstack.cache,
they
can
see
a
demo.
A
There's
sort
of
that
will
take
you
to
the
splash
page
and
the
continued
demo,
because
it's
got
some
some
caveats
and-
and
you
can
actually
see
this
is
what
it
looks
like
looks
just
like
the
web
wall.
Now.
This
is
a
read
only
view
you
can't.
You
can't
buy
or
sell
tokens
here,
but
you
can
see
the
tokens
that
are
available
for
sale,
and
you
know
right
now.
A
It's
just
a
bunch
of
trout
tokens
that
I
put
up
for
testing,
and
so
that's
that's
kind
of
cool
people
can
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
what
it
looks
like
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
show
you
guys.
Oh
yeah,
let's
see
what
cool
cleaner
said,
chapwood
index
site
was
taken
down.
It
was
clear:
the
world
nonsense
replaced
track
information
over
time.
Chapwood
uses
this
too.
Somehow
it
just
disappeared.
A
Yeah,
yep,
disappearing
content
is
a
problem,
but
I've
been
working
on
the
user
interface.
For
so
there
is.
A
There's
this
orders
tab
which
lets
you
take
an
order.
So
there's
the
take
button
over
here
on
the
right,
and
so
you
find
a
token
that
you
want
to
buy
and
you
hit
take
and
then
it
generates
a
counter
offer.
But
then
there's.
How
do
you
actually
list
a
token
for
sale?
Well,
so
far,
that's
just
been
like
a
command
line.
Script
that
you
run,
but
the
the
what
I've
been
working
on
the
last
few
days
is
this
user
interface.
So
I've
modified
the
tokens
tab
to
add
the
sell
button.
A
So
you
click
on
the
cell.
You
have
your
wallet
and
you
send
slp
tokens
to
it
and
now
there
is
a
sell
button
and
you
click
the
sell
button,
and
then
it
opens
up
this
form
this
modal.
And
then
you
can
say
how
much
how
many
of
them
you
want
to
sell
and
what
price
you
want
to
sell
them
at
per
token
and
you
hit
sell
and
then
you'll
get
this
confirmation
that
hey
it's
okay,
your
offer
has
been
written
to
the
system
and
here
is
the
cid
on
the
pay
to
write
database.
A
That
represents
your
token
offer,
and
so
it's
just
it's
a
pr,
I'm
pretty
happy
with
how
this
ui
is
shaping
up.
It's
pretty
smooth
and
yeah.
I'm
I'm
actively
working
on
pushing
this
out
right
now
and
then
I'll
create
a
video
just
sort
of
walking
through
how
to
use
it.
B
A
Yeah
pretty
excited
about
this,
it's
getting
it's
getting
really
close
to
you
know,
being
being
usable,
there's
been
several
token
transactions
and
no
one
has
complained
about
anything.
Yet
I
mean
like
they
don't
always
always
go
through,
because
the
other
party's
computer
has
to
be
online
to
to
see
the
account
or
offer
come
through
and
react
to
it
by
finalizing
the
trade.
A
But
it's
just
so
awesome
having
this
trustless
and
atomic
token
protocol
that,
like
the
money,
is
never
out
of
your
hands,
it's
never
out
of
your
control
until
the
moment
that
the
trade
is
finalized.
A
So
there's
just
no
way
that
that
someone
can
take
your
money
or
the
trade
can
get
stuck
in
some
some
way.
If
you
send
a
counter
offer
and
you
get
tired
of
waiting
for
the
other
side
to
take
the
other
side,
you
just
you
just
spend
that
utxo
and
the
and
everything
automatically
get
that's
how
the
the
order
is
either
on
the
system
until
it's
fulfilled
or
until
the
utxo
gets
spent,
and
then
the
order
gets
deleted
because
the
utxo
isn't
valid
anymore.
A
B
That's
great
can
can't
wait.
I
mean
this
is
exciting,
stuff
and
being
able
to
do
this
token
swap
is
I
I
think
people
have
yet
to
realize
what
tokens
can
do
so.
A
Yeah
yeah
particularly
nfts,
okay.
Well
so
it's
been
about
an
hour
and
20
minutes
we've
gone
through
the
agenda.
Is
there
anything
else
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
before
we
wrap
this
up.
B
I
think
I'm
good.
E
Is
there
anyways,
like
people,
can
get
the
psf
tokens
without
buying
them?
I
do
need
any
help
with
some
kind
of
bounties
or
what's
the
case.
A
Yeah
good
question:
we
are
working
on
bounties
and
in
fact
I've
had
a
couple
people
inquiry
about
the
bounties.
There
is
what
we
need
to
do
is
set
up.
Incentivized
people
to
oh
cool
cleaners
coming
in
what
we
need
to
do
is
set
up
the
the
hold
up
on
the
bounties
right
now
is
the
this.
A
This
metrics
tracking
app
that
once
a
day
writes
information
to
the
payroll
database,
and
what
that's
going
to
do
is
it's
that's
going
to
be
how
we
keep
people
honest
with
regard
to
the
bounty.
So
let
me
actually
just
I'll
share
my
screen
and
I'll
go
to
the
bounties.
A
A
The
I
need
to
take
this
multisigmenting
down,
that's
that's
been
fulfilled,
and
but
but
we
we're
gonna,
have
these
circuit
relay
and
wallet
hosting
and,
and
so
the
the
wallet
service
is
that
global
backend
incentivizing
people
to
run
that,
and
so
what
we
need.
What
the?
What
the
tracking
app
needs
to
do
is
verify
that
those
services
are
up
and
accessible
and
running
for
a
certain
you
know
like
for
like
say,
25
days
out
of
a
month.
A
You
know
whatever
we
set
the
threshold
to
be,
and
so
the
bounties
will
get
distributed.
Based
on
that,
the
results
of
that
tracking
app
every
month,
keeping
everybody
honest
and
then
same
thing
with
the
circuit
relay
hosting.
A
That's
also
really
important,
and
we
need
to
just
be
able
to
track
metrics
around
it
to
keep
people
honest
but
and
and
the
these
aren't
up
yet
because
again,
this
is
a
sort
of
chicken
and
egg
problem
like
we
need
to
have
enough
demand
for
our
services
to
justify
needing
these
services,
which
then
will
allow
us
to
pay
bounties,
because
we'll
have
income
coming
in
to
essentially
pay
for
all
that.
So
so
so
the
bounties
are
in
so
the
short.
A
The
short
answer
that
I
should
have
started
with
is
that
is
that
no,
the
there's
no
bounties
available
right
now,
but
but
we
have
them
in
the
works,
and
we
just
got
to
get
a
few
things
in
place
to
make
them
available.
A
Thanks
for
joining
us,
aaron
yeah.
A
F
A
Okay,
well,
if
you
guys
know
anything
else,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
take
the
live
stream
down
and
we
can
continue
to
talk
amongst
ourselves
in
the
zoom
meeting
all
right.
So
anybody
watching
this.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.