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From YouTube: Committee on Commerce and Economic Development 2-7-2022
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The Committee on Commerce & Economic Development of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Monday, February 7, 2022, at 10:00 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
210966 Resolution authorizing hearings by the Committee on Commerce and Economic Development to examine diversity and inclusion in contracting by the City and related public sector agencies, including the School District of Philadelphia, the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, and the Philadelphia Industrial Development Corporation
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A
Thank
you
before
we
start
I'd
like
to
say
how
important
this
hearing
is,
and
then
thank
councilmember
johnson
for
the
resolution,
noting
that
we
as
a
city
and
our
agencies
need
to
should
lead
by
example,
and
it's
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
show
others
who
we
expect
to
do
the
same
thing,
that
we
are
abiding
by
our
our
rules
and
regulations
and
also
making
every
effort
possible
to
make
sure
we
have
minority
participation
and
all
the
things
that
we
do
so
council.
Member
johnson,
would
you
like
to
make
a
statement.
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Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
mr
chair
and
colleagues,
and,
most
importantly,
the
panelists
and
witnesses.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
participate
in
this
very
important
hearing.
As
we
all
know,
philadelphia
is
the
poorest
big
city
in
the
nation
it
has
been
for
years.
A
quarter
of
our
residents
are
below
the
poverty
line,
but
recent
years
have
brought
new
prosperity
to
the
city.
The
evidence
is
all
around
us.
E
All
you
have
to
do
is
look
up
at
the
cranes
in
the
skies
hospitals,
universities,
labs
offices
and
condos
are
sprouting
up.
The
city's
population
is
growing
for
the
first
time
since
the
mid
1900s,
it's
just
in
just
a
few
years.
We
added
a
billion
dollars
to
the
city
budget.
Unfortunately,
this
rising
tide
is
not
lifting
our
boats.
Philadelphia's
black
poverty
rate
is
more
has
more
than
double
the
white
poverty
rate.
The
hispanic
poverty
rate
is
even
higher.
E
City
government
must
treat
this
status
quo
as
unacceptable,
and
it
must
lead
the
way
in
changing
it
right
now,
however,
the
city
is
not
leading.
Philadelphia's
population
is
44
black,
but
only
11.5
of
city
contracts
go
to
black
owned
businesses.
Philadelphia's
population
of
hispanics
is
15,
but
only
3.5
percent
of
city
contracts
go
to
hispanic-owned
businesses.
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E
A
Thank
you,
guys,
member
johnson,
and
before
we
begin
the
hearing.
Testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
for
today,
everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
the
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public
participants
and
the
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
this
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members,
further
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
the
witnesses.
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H
Thank
you
good
morning,
chairperson
squilla
members
of
the
committee
on
commerce
and
economic
development.
My
name
is
stephanie
tipton.
I
am
the
city's
chief
administrative
officer,
I'm
joined
this
morning
by
the
following
representatives
from
core
city
departments
that
are
engaged
in
supporting
and
advancing
inclusive
procurement
throughout
the
city.
So
with
me
today
I
have
nefertieri
saku,
the
city's
chief
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
officer.
H
Despite
facing
unprecedented
operational
and
financial
challenges
during
the
course
of
the
pandemic,
the
city
of
philadelphia's
mw,
dsbe
participation
rate
on
contracts
for
fy20
and
fy21
came
in
at
just
over
30
percent.
While
this
is
a
slight
decline
from
36
achieved
in
fy,
19
oeo
staff
have
worked
hard
to
continue
delivering
on
their
work
and
their
mission.
Oeo
is
one
of
the
core
departments
that
helps
the
city
as
a
whole.
Prioritize
diversity,
inclusion
and
the
contracting
process.
H
As
we
look
forward
to
the
receipt
of
historic
levels
of
funding
through
the
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs,
act
or
iija,
for
short,
the
city
is
preparing
to
leverage
those
dollars
to
promote
opportunity
and
build
wealth
based
on
a
commitment
to
racial
equity.
This
will
require
creativity
and
focus
as
we
identify
and
address
long-standing
barriers
that
have
inhibited
mwdsbe
businesses
from
working
with
the
city
and
receiving
the
support
they
need
to
build
capacity.
H
We
also
know,
however,
that
it
is
only
by
improving
city
processes,
providing
technical
support
and
growing
the
pool
of
mwdsbe
partners
able
to
work
with
the
city
and
promoting
a
diverse
workforce
that
withstand
any
chance
of
taking
full
advantage
of
the
opportunity
in
front
of
us.
With
that
goal
in
mind,
a
working
group
involving
commerce
procurement,
the
airport,
labor
department
and
otis
has
been
meeting
regularly
since
last
year
to
formulate
recommendations
to
reform
city
processes
and
to
devote
resources
towards
making
targeted
and
tangible
improvements.
H
In
addition,
our
agencies
have
focused
on
improving
the
overall
contract
process,
as
well
as
streamlining
the
vendor
payment
process.
For
example,
during
the
pandemic,
the
cio,
in
collaboration
with
the
office
of
innovation
and
technology
or
oit,
and
the
finance
department,
launched
the
vendor
payment
portal,
which
provides
vendors
with
greater
access
to
information
regarding
their
payments
and
invoices.
H
To
date,
over
6
000
invoices
have
been
paid
using
the
streamline
process
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
nearly
90
of
all
of
our
invoices
are
paid
within
30
days,
while
improvements
to
the
payment
process
benefit
all
vendors.
We
understand
that
payment
delays
are
especially
challenging
for
small
and
minority-owned
businesses
and
we're
particularly
focused
on
removing
that
obstacle.
H
Diversity
and
inclusion
in
the
city
contracting
process
are
critical
to
strengthening
our
local,
small
and
diverse
businesses
and
helping
our
city
and
region
recover
from
the
economic
impacts
of
coven
19,
as
well
as
advancing
racial
equity
in
our
community.
Thank
you,
council
members,
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
before
you
today.
I,
along
with
my
colleagues
who
are
available,
are
available
to
answer
questions
that
you
may
have
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you,
stephanie
for
your
testimony
and
and
real
quick,
and
I
know
you
said
that
oeo
has
been
short
staffed
and
then
hopefully
we're
looking
to
increase
that
staffing
as
we
move
forward.
But
as
we
work
with
the
people
who
are
doing
the
work
and
then
counting
or
addressing
the
issues
of
participation,
how
do
we
ensure,
when
we
receive
the
numbers
that
those
numbers
that
we're
getting
are
accurate?
Is
there
a
process
that
we
follow.
A
H
Right
so
there's
a
number
of
a
number
of
things
that
that
are
done
to
ensure
that
contractors
are
complying
first
of
all.
Oeo
is
a
core
partner
with
departments
in
ensuring
that
there's
compliance
with
the
the
participation
ranges
that
are
set
within
the
contract
itself.
Procurement
also
works
very
closely
with
departments
to
ensure
the
compliance
of
contractors.
H
In
some
cases
you
know
if
there
is
a
question
around
whether
the
information
being
provided
is
accurate.
You
know
those
matters
do
get
re
referred
to
our
office
of
inspector
general
and
we
work
closely
with
them
to
investigate
any
or
in
all
instances
where
fraud
might
have
might
have
occurred,
as
it
relates
to
the
information
that's
being
provided
by
contractors.
H
I
Here,
thank
you
good
morning,
everyone.
Yes,
we
have
seen
instances
where
there
were
fraudulent
reporting
from
primes
and
we
have
addressed
those
issues.
Stephanie
indicated
the
inspector
general
oftentimes.
Also,
our
chief
integrity
office
is
included
and
we
have
gone
through
some
proceedings
with
those
matters.
I
What
happens
is
there
is
a
period
typically
it's
three
years
where
they
are
not
allowed
to
participate
on
any
any
new
city
projects
depending
on.
Let's
just
say
if
it
were
a
large
construction
company
and
they
have
an
active,
an
active
project
that
they're
working
on,
we
may
allow
them
in
some
instances
to
continue
with
that
project
only,
but
they
would
not
be
eligible
to
bid
on
any
new
city
projects
for
a
period
of
three
years.
I
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
stephanie
just
want
to
just
a
couple
questions.
I
know
my
colleagues
have
some
questions
as
well.
This
goes
toward
a
2020
disparity
study
where
it
indicates
that
the
city
fell
short
of
this
35
goal
of
contracting
the
disadvantaged
businesses
only
reaching
30,
and
so
I
want
to
get
an
idea
of
an
explanation
of
not
reaching
those
targets,
but
also
what
recommendations
from
that
disparity
study,
as
we
have
we
actually
implemented,
because
it
seems
like
the
numbers
have
been
stagnated
over
several
years.
H
Sure
so
so,
thanks
for
raising
that
question
council
member
I
mean,
I
think,
fy
20
and
fy
21
were
somewhat
challenging
years
due
to
the
pandemic,
which
really
impacted
some
of
the
spending
that
we
have
seen
with
the
city.
So,
while
they're
in
fy
20,
specifically
while
there
was
a
decrease
in
the
overall
proportion
or
percentage
of
spending
with
mwdsbes
the
overall,
you
know,
dollar
amount
that
was
spent
did
increase
from
fy19.
H
But
we
recognize
it's
still.
You
know
a
lower
proportion
in
comparison
to
the
total
spend
in
fy
21.
While
we
haven't
issued
the
annual
report
at
this
point,
we
do
see
that
we're
coming
in
around
31,
so
there
was
a
slight
increase
from
the
prior
fiscal
year.
However,
we
saw
a
nearly
200
million
dollar
decrease
in
the
overall
amount
of
contract
spending
in
fy
21,
which
really
resulted
in
pretty
historic
lows
in
terms
of
the
overall
participation
across
all
of
our
categories.
H
We
did
see
slight
increases,
though,
which
are
promising
in
our
public
works
category
in
fy
21
and
I
think
that's
an
area
where
we'll
continue
to
see
growth.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
can
potentially
impact.
That
is,
you
know
if
we
have
contracts,
if
we
have
a
greater
percent
portion
of
the
contracts
that
we're
doing
that
are
federally
funded.
H
You
know
fiscal
year
generally,
so
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
can
impact
it.
I
I
do
think,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
testimony,
that
with
sort
of
the
historic
investment
that
we
are
seeing
from
the
federal
government,
we
are
really
looking
at
ways
to
improve
the
participation
and
really
leverage
those
dollars
to
increase
capacity
and
wealth
within
black
and
brown.
H
Businesses
here
in
the
city
and
monique
has
been
a
tremendous
partner
with
with
our
office
of
transportation,
infrastructure
and
sustainability
and
commerce
and
airport
on
really
looking
at
ways
for
us
to
improve
processes
to
improve
you
know.
Overall,
access
to
our
contracting
opportunities
by
all
businesses
could.
H
H
So
I
think
fy20
and
fy21
were
challenging
years
in
a
lot
of
ways
due
to
the
pandemic
and
some
of
the
transitions
that
are
happening
within
oeo,
and
so
I
think
we're
committed
looking
forward
on
a
you
know,
building
back
capacity
within
oeo,
but
then
also
using
the
iija
dollars
to
leverage
our
ability
to
better
increase
access
to
our
contracting
opportunities,
and
so
we
have
sort
of
a
right
now
to
how
we
can
leverage
those
dollars
and
really
improve
and
grow.
You
know
grow
participation
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
E
B
E
D
D
J
D
E
No
thank
you
very
much
and
steph.
I
just
had
another
question
that
I'm
going
to
wrap
up
well
one.
It
was
good
to
hear
that
we're
paying
our
invoices
on
time,
and
so
I'm
always
getting
phone
calls
regarding
that
particular.
So
I
do
commend
the
administration
staying
on
top
of
the
airport,
because
that's
a
another
tricky
way
to
put
small
businesses
out
of
business.
They
can't
make
payroll
so
something
I
also
want
to
zero.
In
on.
E
When
you
talk
about
supporting
smaller
businesses,
do
we
have
do
we
reserve
right
any
contractor
opportunity,
specifically
for
black
and
brown
small
quote-unquote
disadvantaged
businesses?
That
would
be
the
first
question
and
then
the
last
question
is
just
from
looking
at
the
data
on
rebuild
right
and
phdc.
E
They
rebuilt
outperform
pretty
much
every
city
agency
when
it
comes
to
diversity,
inclusion
and
contracting
right,
and
I
think,
kudos
to
the
mayor's
team
for
making
sure
that
has
taken
place,
because
that
was
a
key
concern
when
we
signed
off
on
the
legislation,
but
phdc
have
done
the
same,
and
so
what
are
they
doing
differently
right
in
terms
of
best
practices
that
allow
them
to
move
forward?
And
not
us
in
other
areas,
and
so
those
are
two
questions
that
I
have.
H
Sure,
I
think
we
in
terms
of
you
know,
set
asides.
If
you
will
for
small
businesses
we
don't
do
set-asides.
Necessarily
we
do.
You
know
goal-setting
on
all
of
our
contracts.
You
know.
One
area
that
we
have
really
honed
in
on
through
the
local
business
purchasing
initiative
is
how
we
can
really
streamline
the
process
on
some
of
our
sort
of
initial
on-ramps
to
being
a
prime.
How
can
we
make
that
process
easier,
especially
for
local,
small
and
diverse
businesses,
and
so
we
spent
a
lot
of
effort
over
the
last.
H
You
know
two
years
at
this
point
in
streamlining,
not
only
the
the
application
process
for
businesses,
but
also
the
review
and
award
process
on
the
part
of
the
city,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
really
to
incentivize
us
to
do.
You
know
more
business
with
local
and
small
businesses
in
particular,
and
I
think
you
know
we
have
seen
some
increases
there
around
spending,
especially
in
small
order
purchases.
So
we're
we're
pleased
with
with
that.
H
H
K
Council
member,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
working
on
with
the
airport
with
support
from
your
office,
was
particularly
for
black
and
hispanic-owned
businesses.
We
have
filed
a
waiver
with
the
faa
that
would
allow
us
to
have
a
separate
sub
goal
for
black
and
hispanic-owned
businesses
on
our
concessions.
This
is
the
first
such
a
waiver
that
has
been
submitted
for
this
for
the
entire
usdot
program
and
we're
very
excited
and
hopeful
that
we'll
receive
a
positive
response.
E
Thank
you
kathleen
and
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
dedication
and
working
with
my
office
around
this
particular
issue.
I
have
this
on
my
notes
for
my
next
round,
but
thank
you.
Chris
sample
have
also
been
reporting
back
on
the
the
national
acknowledgement
that
you
have
received
for
your
hard
work
and
your
dedication
addressing
the
issue
of
diversity
and
inclusion
and
contracts.
So
thank
you
and
keep
up
the
good
work
as
well.
B
H
So,
according
to
our
most
recent
data,
approximately
86
of
our
vouchers
are
reviewed
and
approved
in
payment
for
under
30
days,
and
then
another
25
of
the
vouchers
are
review
and
approved
for
payment
under
60
days.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
launched
during
the
pandemic-
and
I
suppose
this
is
maybe
a
silver
lining
with
a
pandemic-
is
that
we
launched
the
vendor
payment
portal,
which
really
shifted
the
submission
of
invoices
by
contractors
to
an
online
portal.
H
H
An
automatic
email
then
goes
with
the
invoice
to
the
department
so
directly
by
email
goes
to
the
department
and
then
they
are
able
to
process
that
electronically
through
the
remainder
of
the
process.
So
you
know
the
shuffling
of
paper
and
things
like
that
is
sort
of
eliminated,
and
I
think
because
of
that
we
have
seen
improvements
in
our
overall
payment
time
for
vendors.
B
H
So
I
don't
have
that
information.
I
can
go
back
to
my
team
and
see
if
it's
able
to
be
disaggregated
in
that
way.
I
think,
as
you
know,
we
we
work
with
someone
antiquated
systems,
so
our
reporting
is
not
always
the
best
or
what
we
would
like
it
to
be,
but
I
can
certainly
go
back
and
see
if
we
can
do
some
of
that,
for
you.
B
So
whatever
we
can
do,
I
know
small
businesses,
don't
have
a
big
cash
flow
float.
Basically,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
speed
it
up
would
be
helpful.
The
second
question,
the
second
question
I
have
is:
do
we
have
any
data
that
shows
on
the
minority-owned
businesses
which
ones
are
in
philadelphia
versus
which
ones
are
not.
H
We
do,
I
unfortunately
don't
have
that
data
right
at
my
fingertips.
But,
yes,
we
do
have
a
crosswalk
between
you
know:
minority-owned
businesses
and
those
that
are
local.
We
do
have
a
process
through
the
procurement
department
to
certify
businesses
as
local
business
entities
depending
on
the
type
of
contract.
H
B
That'd,
be
I'm
just
curious
how
many
of
the
businesses
are
in
philadelphia
versus
not
and
what
we
can
do
to
build.
You
know
the
volume
in
philadelphia
and
the
last
question
really
isn't
a
question.
Well,
it's
a
question,
but
it's
for
you
and
in
a
perfect
world,
if
you
could
say
to
us,
there's
three
things:
we
need
to
do
to
make
this
a
whole
lot
better.
What
are
those
three
things.
H
Sure
so
I
will
always
get
on
my
soapbox
for
supporting
our
internal
administrative
offices.
We
saw
them
really
impacted
pretty
significantly
during
the
pandemic.
In
terms
of
you
know
not
filling
positions
or
you
know
reducing
staff,
and
you
know
when
we
bring
in
investments
like
you
know
the
iija
dollars.
We
also
have
to
look
at
our
internal
capacity
to
support
that
money
and
that's
why
I'm
really.
I'm
I'm
pleased
that,
as
part
of
our
you
know,
thinking
with
the
ia
dollars
we're
also
looking
at
internal
capacity.
H
So
how
many
more
staff
do
we
need
to?
Actually
you
know,
process
and
get
contracts
out
the
door?
You
know,
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
provide
greater
capacity
internally
to
our
departments
in
order
to
do
this
properly?
So
you
know,
resourcing
for
staff
is
probably
one
area
that
I
will
always
advocate
for,
and
you
know
it
allows
us.
H
The
other
thing
I
think,
is
always
a
challenge
is
just
access
to
capital.
You
know,
I
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
have
bonding
requirements,
we
have
insurance
requirements
and
you
know,
as
we
know,
sometimes
our
payment
processes
can
take
some
time,
although
we're
doing
better
there,
and
so
any
you
know,
vendors
being
able
to
sort
of
have
the
adequate
cash
flow.
The
bonding
capacity
to
really
you
know,
access
some
of
our
opportunities.
You
know
if
I
could
wave
a
magic
wand.
You
know
that
would
definitely
be
an
area
as
well.
H
L
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thanks
to
councilmember
johnson
for
this
important
conversation
stephanie.
I
heard
you
talk
earlier
about
the
city
having
exceeded
30
for
fy,
20
and
21
in
terms
of
minority
and
disadvantaged
businesses
who
receive
contracts.
Do
we
break
that
down
also
by
ethnicity
in
terms
of
black
and
brown
businesses?
And
if
so,
what
are
what
have
we
achieved?
There.
H
H
H
D
H
D
I
think
I
was
more
so
looking
for
the
number,
the
percentage
in
terms
of
total
contracts.
So
sorry,
I
asked
you
out
of
the
30.
What
I
think
I
meant
was
out
of
total
contracts,
how
many?
What
was
the
percentage
to
black
owned
businesses?
What
was
the
percentage
to
business
owners
who
are
latino?
Do
we
know
that.
H
D
H
K
We've
looked
at
barriers
to
participation
in
some
of
our
programs
and
we
put
in
to
the
airport
cooperative
research
program,
two
study
proposals
which
were
funded
to
the
tune
of
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
look
at
how
to
better
remove
barriers
within
those
federal
regulations
and,
more
generally,
for
participation
for
our
for
firms
and
our
projects.
I
mentioned
our
waiver
application.
K
D
H
Contract
sure
so
I
mean
I
think
for
us
I
mentioned
before
rebuild.
You
know
emerging
vendors
program.
I
mean
there
was
a
lot
of
you
know,
resourcing
putting
put
behind
you,
know,
capacity,
building
and
really
growing
businesses
in
order
to
have
them
participate
and
rebuild
programs.
You
know
that
will
take
an
investment
of
resources
to
expand
that
citywide,
but
I
think
that
is
certainly
a
really
promising
program
that
we
saw.
You
know
tremendous
success
with
rebuild
in
terms
of
the
participation.
H
I
think
you
know
the
availability
study
that
we
did
you
know
does
support
that.
We
could
you
know
that
there
is.
There
is
enough
businesses
available
to
do
work,
and
you
know
we
did
see
a
slight
increase
about
a
six
percent
increase
on
participation
on
our
public
works
contracts
in
fy21,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
those
are
two
areas
where
we
know
there's
potential,
and
I
think
karen
also
has
some
good
work
to
share
in
terms
of
the
you
know.
H
M
Hi
everyone,
karen
fegley,
deputy
commerce,
director
yeah
you're.
You
know
you're
absolutely
right
that
we
need
to
support
businesses
sort
of
holistically
and
to
really
to
grow
black
and
brown
businesses
in
our
city.
We
have
to
hit
them
with.
We
talk
about
the
the
four
c's
so
in
this
hearing,
in
particular,
we're
talking
about
contracts
as
a
real
opportunity
to
grow
businesses,
but
in
order
to
get
those
contracts,
businesses
need
capacity
right.
M
M
We
talk
about
capital,
they
need
access
to
capital,
otherwise
they
can't
hire
people,
they
can't
go
after
the
contracts,
and
so
we
are
working
closely
with
the
cdfis
in
the
city
we
are
philly
is
really
fortunate.
I
think
we
have
11
community
development,
financial
institutions,
one
of
the
silver
linings
of
the
pandemic
is
they've.
You
know
they've
come
together
as
this
coalition
and
you
know
we're
looking
to
support
more
more
funds
into
those
organizations
through
as
commerce.
M
We
provide
them
with
some
operating
dollars,
so
they
get
the
lending
dollars
from
banks
and
so
forth.
We
give
them
the
operating
dollars,
so
they
have
the
staff
to
really
do
the
hand
holding
to
to
help
the
businesses
get
loans,
so
contracts
capacity,
capital
and
connections.
They
also
need.
You
know.
Businesses
need
networks.
This
is
you
know,
really
how
you
do
this
stuff,
so
you
get
access
to
to
tips
and-
and
you
know,
tips
and
trades.
M
It
is
a
mouthful,
but
it
was
really
about
just
laying
all
of
this
out
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
provide
a
continuum
of
services
to
help
black
and
brown
businesses
start
and
then
help
them
grow
right,
because
we
actually
have
a
lot
of
businesses
starting,
but
we
need
more
help
getting
them
to
grow,
and
so
it's
a
way
of
bringing
together
all
the
partners.
In
the
city
and
helping
us
work
together,
instead
of
you
know,
competing
over
little
pots
of
money,
but
actually
working
together
to
bring
in
more
dollars.
D
H
Sure
we
do,
I
might
ask
monique,
just
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
I
think
procurement's
done
some
great
work
in
the
area
of
vendor
performance
and
managing
that
and
just
how
we
hold
vendors
accountable
and
just
for
your
information
before
monique
speaks.
You
know
we
do
have
an
internal
system
called
b2g
now
that
all
departments
have
access
to
that.
H
Oeo
also
supports
that
really
is
our
mechanism
for
monitoring
compliance,
and
so
you
know
we
do
rely
on
departments
to
do
that,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
also
working
closely
with
departments
to
build
some
of
their
capacity
to
managing
that,
and
also
you
know,
reporting
issues
to
oeo
and
procurement
is
also
important.
So
I'll
have
just
monique
speak
a
little
bit
to
you
know
how
we're
holding
contractors
accountable.
Sorry.
I
Yes,
good
good
morning
again
so
to
stephanie's
point
render
performance
is
something
that
we
pay
very
close
attention
to.
We
have
a
vendor
performance
process
that
is
embedded
on
the
procurement
side
and
it
is
where
a
departments
provide
information
about
their
experience
over
the
course
of
a
said
contract
term
with
the
vendor.
I
If
there
are
some
questionable
performance
issues,
we
work
with
the
department
in
conjunction
with
oeo
and
any
other
partner
agency
that
needs
to
be
involved
and
work
with
the
department
to
work
with
that
vendor
to
either
bring
up
their
performance
standard,
whatever
they
may
be,
and
or
support
them
in
reaching
their
goal.
If
they've
had
an
issue
or
setback
with
their
minority
woman
or
a
disabled
on
business
partner,
then
we
work
with
oeo
to
seek
additional
resourcing
for
them
obo.
D
Thank
you
and
then
lastly
stephanie,
I
think
I
heard
you
mentioned
that
when
we
get
federal
funding,
sometimes
the
federal
government's
goals
are
different
than
ours,
which
impedes
our
ability
to
reach
more
ambitious
goals.
Are
we
having
a
conversation
with
or
do
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
anyone
at
the
federal
level
about
that,
since
we
expect
to
be
receiving,
you
know
many
more
federal
funds.
H
K
K
Some
of
the
other
city
agencies
such
as
otis
streets,
public
property
are
sub-recipients
most
most
usually,
and
they
have
to
follow
the
programs
that
are
set
up
by
the
direct
recipient
agencies
for
streets.
Most
of
those
would
flow
through
penndot
and
the
penndot
goal
applies
so
having
those
conversations
would
probably
start
with
penndot
for
sub-recipient
agencies
for
air
for
airport
direct
funded
recipient
projects.
It
would
start
with
me.
K
I
know
that
the
working
group
that
stephanie
responded
mentioned
earlier
is
looking
at
some
of
those
issues.
I
think
it
gets
pretty
complicated
because,
if
you're
a
sub
recipient
through
penndot,
they
can't
have
a
separate
goal
regionally
they
have
to
have
a
statewide
goal
and
that's
what's
going
to
apply
to
your
contract
level
goals.
So
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
an
easy,
an
easy
lift
at
the
airport,
just
to
give
an
example
of
what
the
different
goals
are
are
oeogo
for
the
department
is
30.
K
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
once
again
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
johnson
for
having
this
conversation
a
number
of
people
on
this
call.
I've
worked
very
closely
with
miss
tipton.
I
just
want
to
echo
your
comments
about
access
to
credit.
That's
one
of
the
big
issues
that
I've
seen
historically,
that
you
know
from
a
public
sector.
We
haven't
done
what
we
need
to
do
to
provide
some
better
access
to
credit
and
use
public
dials
as
a
way
to
address
that
issue
in
our
city.
F
That
was
really
the
motivation
of
my
public
banking
initiative
legislation.
In
fact,
I
was
just
talking
to
a
african-american
ceo
two
weeks
ago,
who
has
a
contract
with
the
city
and
he
has
not
been
paid
by
the
city,
even
though
he's
been
providing
the
services
under
this
contract
since
october
has
not
been
paid.
F
There's
been
an
issue
within
the
revenue
department
which
we
think
has
now.
We
hope
has
now
been
resolved,
but
because
he
was
in
that
delay
between
providing
the
goods
and
services
for
one
department
not
being
paid
by
a
different
department.
He
went
to
his
bank,
which
he's
had
a
17
year
relationship
and
asked
for
an
increase
on
his
line
of
credit
to
help
him
with
his
cash
flow.
He's
never
had
delinquencies,
he
doesn't
have
any
tax
issues,
but
they
declined
his
increase.
F
In
fact,
the
banker
he
was
working
with
was
concerned
that,
based
on
the
scoring
he
received
on
a
denial
he
he
felt.
We
need
to
remove
that
application
because
they
may
mess
with
his
current
line
of
credit,
and
so
he
was
at
some
point
looking
to
go
to
an
alternative
finding
entity
just
to
get
the
dollars
he
needed
to
cover
the
cash
flow
for
a
contract
he
has
with
the
city
but
not
being
paid.
F
So
the
reason
why
access
to
credit
is
a
very
important
issue
is
because
it's
one
of
the
things
that's
that's
hurting,
so
many
of
the
black
and
brown
businesses
in
our
city
and
miss
tifton.
I
wanted
to
get
some
perspective
on
where
we
regarding
local
business
purchasing
initiative
and
best
value
and
how
those
initiatives
are
helping
to
address
the
issues
that
councilmember
johnson's
raised
to
this
hearing.
I
Yep
good
afternoon,
good,
I'm
sorry.
I
keep
wanting
to
say
good
afternoon
but
good
morning
again,
so
the
I'll
speak,
the
best
value
first
best
value
has
been
a
substantial
vehicle
for
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
in
my
three
years
in
the
seat,
there
are
requirements
for
participation,
goals
and
local
goals
to
be
set
on
all
best
values.
It
is
a
point
in
the
justification
document
prior
to
a
best
value,
even
being
let
out
on
the
street.
So
I
do
review
that
intensely.
The
justification
document
comes
to
me.
I
If
I
have
questions,
I
definitely
work
back
and
forth
with
the
department
and
oeo
in
particular
to
ensure
that
the
goals
are
appropriate,
that
everything
has
gone
through
oeo
and
that
the
ranges
have
been
set
appropriately,
as
well
as
the
local
participation
goal.
So
we
have
certainly
seen
minority
women
and
disabled
owned
spend
as
well
as
a
significant
amount
of
local
local
spin
through
best
value.
So
we
do
have
data
for
that
in
terms
of
lbpi.
I
What
we've
done
with
lbpi
through
the
guidance
document
and
the
regulation
that
was
put
forth,
is
there
is
a
requirement
for
solicitation
of
minority
women
and
business
minority,
disabled
and
small
businesses,
as
well
as
lgbtq
businesses,
for
each
solicitation
at
each
level,
at
the
micro
purchase
level,
which
is
below
35,
the
sop
level,
which
is
between
thirty
five
thousand
and
seventy
eight
thousand,
and
then
that
local
set
aside
is
from
seventy
eight
thousand
to
a
hundred
and
three
thousand.
So
there
are
requirements
for
each
category.
F
F
I
guess
one
of
my
real
concerns,
and
you
know
this
will
be
an
unfair
question,
but
this
is
why
we're
in
this
situation
and
why
we
have
hearings
to
get
informations,
even
though
they
may
be
challenging.
You
know
we
have
a
44
african-american
population,
but
only
six
percent
of
the
businesses
with
employees
are
owned
by
african
americans.
F
We
have
a
15
percent
latinx
population,
but
only
four
percent
of
businesses
from
that
are
owned
by
people
from
the
latin
diaspora,
businesses
with
employees
in
the
city
and
so
the
question
for
those
business
owners
and
when
they
look
at
the
infrastructure
bill
and
they
look
at
the
fact
and
I
think
miss
tipton.
You
gave
some
perspective
on
reductions
in
spending
regarding
black
and
brown
businesses
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
F
What
type
of
insurance
can
we
really
give
them
that
they
will
be
really
able
to
participate
in
these
programs
and
these
initiatives?
This
is
a
conversation.
I've
been
having
with
some
of
my
colleagues
in
national
league
cities
and
some
other
organizations
around
the
country
that
for
our
constituents
who
look
at
you
know
well,
thank
you,
councilman
mcgreen,
for
pushing
for
the
infrastructure
bill.
But
how
am
I
going
to
participate
when
issues
like
the
situation?
F
I
How
can
we
utilize
that
program
as
a
pipeline
to
bring
the
vendors?
I
believe
it's,
I
believe
it's
45
or
so
vendors
in
in
the
emerging
vendor
program,
and
I
think
they're
90
and
I
may
be
flipping
the
numbers
of
vendors
that
are
in
the
rebuild
ready.
But
how
can
we
utilize
both
of
those
initiatives
as
a
pipeline
to
bring
these
same
black
and
brown
businesses
into
excuse
me
into
the
fault?
I
I
Excuse
me
that
access
to
capital,
what
can
we
do
we're
looking
at
what
other
cities
have
done,
other
programs
that
other
cities
and
kansas
city
and
in
particular
have
done
to
create
access
to
capital?
And
how
can
we
bring
that
idea
to
the
city
to
the
administration
to
create
a
a
program
if
you
will
for
black
and
brown
businesses
who
have
difficulty
gaining
access
to
capital
so
on
the
workforce
side
again,
we're
also
working
with
philadelphia
works
to
identify
apprenticeship
programs
to
identify
what
populations
best
would
best
fit
into
those
programs.
I
In
terms
of
you
know,
or
should
we
be
working
with
the
school
district
to
bring
high
school
students-
and
you
know,
should
we
be
looking
at
some
of
the
technical
institutes
and
beginning
to
partner
with
them
to
prepare
their
upcoming
graduates
to
come
into
the
workforce
and
again
gain
employment,
gainful
employment
based
on
these
incoming
ija
dollars?
And
then
how
can
we
we're
also
very
focused
on
making
this
sustainable?
We
don't
want
this
to
go
away
in
five
years
when
our
ija
goes
away,
but
how
can
we
create
sustainable
programs.
F
Madam
procurement,
commissioner,
thank
you
for
that
work
and
that
background
information,
and
I
I
commend
the
work
that
you
do.
I
commend
the
work
that
ms
tipton's
done
as
well
as
karen
franklin.
I
have
worked
with
all
of
you,
but
I
I
have
a
question.
When
was
the
last
time
any
of
you
met
with
the
mayor
regarding
these
issues.
I
We
actually
just
had
a
economic
opportunity
meeting,
I
want
to
say
it
was
in
december.
I
want
to
say
it
was
in
december,
where
we
did
review
some
some
data
that
was
hard
to
swallow.
I'll,
be
honest
for
us
as
well
as
as
for
the
mayor,
so
we
do
have
his
attention
there,
a
nefertaria,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
wanted
to
add
anything.
C
D
Leverage
this
work
within
city
government
and
across
city
government,
so
having
the
mayor's
presence
and
his
ear
and
support
and
he's
completely
engaged
in
this
work.
The
the
one
thing
that
I
would
add
on
to
what
stephanie
and
monique
shared
about
some
of
the
barriers
is
also
helping
businesses
be
able
to
navigate
the
procurement.
F
Well,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
response
provided
information.
I
guess,
from
my
perspective,
having
you
know,
fought
for
additional
dollars
for
commerce
when
you
think
about
the
pandemic
was
a
global
health
emergency.
It
was
also
an
economic
crisis
and
a
number
of
black
and
brown
businesses
that
close
disproportionately
to
majority-owned
businesses
and
the
commerce
department
budget
was
basically
drastically
reduced.
F
Just
really
creates
a
concern,
especially
in
how
we're
providing
resources
for
black
and
brown
businesses
when
we
have
such
a
small
percentage
of
businesses
that
are
owned
by
individuals
from
those
communities
with
employees.
So,
if
we're
ever
going
to
address
the
25
poverty
issue
or
address
the
562
homicide,
japan,
city
in
philadelphia,
all
these
issues
are
interconnected
and
unless
we're
going
to
make
a
real
commitment
and
prioritization
to
growing
black
and
brown
businesses
and
not
do
things
in
silos,
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
these
issues.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
my
colleague,
councilmember
kenyatta
johnson,
for
this
very
important
hearing.
In
particular,
I
wanted
to
to
focus
on
a
couple
things,
starting
with
the
local
business
preference,
local
bidding
preference
initiative,
which
was
legislation
that
I
had
worked
on
as
a
legislative,
aide
working
under
council
member
blondel,
reynolds
brown,
and
so
commissioner
anezama
joyner.
C
You
had
talked
about
the
preference
related
to
the
the
micro
purchasing,
which
is
under
35
000
sop,
35,
000,
78,
000
and
local
78
to
103
000..
I
remember
for
a
specific
category
years
ago
there
was
a
list
of
minority
vendors
that
the
city
could
choose
from.
I
think
it
was
relative
to
landscaping
or
another
industry.
Are
you
familiar
with
the
list
that
I'm
referring
to
and
does
that
still
exist
so.
C
I
H
Yes,
and
can
can
I
just
also
just
add
there
I
mean
one
thing:
you
know
we
had
a
similar
requirement
previously.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
do
in
the
last
year
was
oeo
is
actually
now
an
approver
of
the
contract
so
before
the
contract
can
even
be
awarded
oeo
reviews
to
confirm
that
a
solicitation
happened
and
and
that
it
satisfies
that
requirement.
H
So
you
know
we
kind
of
were
a
little
bit
on
the
honor
system
with
departments
I
think
previously,
but
now
having
that
sort
of
extra
compliance
focus
with
oeo
in
the
workflow,
we
now
can
actually
verify
and
can
hold
the
contract
from
moving
forward.
If
you
know
that
hasn't
been
met
on
the
contract,
okay,.
C
We
just
had
a
briefing
with
congressman
evans
and
our
workforce
development
providers.
You
all
know
that
I've
really
worked
with
our
commerce
department
in
ensuring
that
we
have
a
workforce
development
unit
after
the
department
was
eliminated
after
the
the
covet
cuts
and
we've
worked
closely
with
fillerworks,
not.
C
Of
covet
and
we
were
dealing
with
an
influx
of
federal
dollars
that
some
of
the
in
particular
the
health
dollars
you
know
related
to
the
actual
pandemic,
were
given
to
what
we
would
call
legacy
vendors
without
a
real
process
for
other
businesses
to
be
involved.
You
know,
as
determined
by
that
specific
department.
So
what
will
be
different
this
time
around
from
an
oeo
and
a
city
contracting
perspective,
to
ensure
that
we
are
offering
these
opportunities
to
everyone
and
not
just
legacy
vendors.
I
So,
even
in
thank
you
for
that
question,
even
in
covid
we
we
did
realize
that,
to
your
point,
legacy
vendors
were
being
solicited
and
provided
with
opportunities
that
were
not
available
to
all
vendors.
So
what
we
did
was
we
put
a
process
in
place
by
which
no
emergent
contract.
At
that
time
there
was
a
declaration,
an
emergency
declaration
in
place,
so
we
had
an
emergent
contracting
process
and
what
we
did
was
we
we,
unfortunately
had
to
add
a
layer
where
no
emerging
contract
will
go
forth
without
review
from
myself.
I
We
also
made
an
effort
to
research
if
local
businesses
could
participate
and
those
contracts
would
not
move
forward.
We
were
the
secondary
level
of
approval
in
that
process,
and
the
contracts
would
not
move
forward
until
we
were
satisfied.
So
we
are
looking
we've
embedded
data
stephanie
mentioned
into
our
normal
process.
Now
on
the
professional
services
side-
and
we
also
have
those
processes
embedded
over
for
procurement.
K
K
Thank
you,
kathleen
padilla
and
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
aviation
for
diversity,
inclusion
and,
if
I
could
just
reiterate
what
I
said,
have
had
number
numerous
outreach
events,
small
business
roundtables,
including
our
capital
development
chief
to
outreach
to
firms
that
have
not
worked
at
the
airport.
Previously,
specifically.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
response.
I
just
wanted
to
go
back,
commissioner
nesmith
a
joiner,
a
relative
to
what
you
call
that
second
layer
of
review,
specifically
from
procurement
again.
My
concern
is
that
we
could
be
in
a
circumstance
where,
when
the
infrastructure
dollars
technically
hit
philadelphia,
we
could
still
technically
be
under
the
covet
emergency.
C
So
that
is
something
that
we
have
to
think
about
as
we
move
forward
in
the
process.
In
addition
to
that
second
level
of
review,
there
needs
to
be
something
else
put
in
place
for
each
of
the
departments,
maybe
a
checkoff
list,
or
something
that
we
can
do
on
our
side
to
ensure
that
an
overall
review
has
happened
and
not
just
looking
at
a
list
of
legacy
vendors,
which
is
why
I
asked
the
the
question
at
the
beginning,
because
I
know
there
was
a
list
that
existed
somewhere
for
a
specific
industry.
C
It
could
have
been
landscaping
of
others
as
long
as
the
contract
or
could
have
been
paper
and
supplies,
but
as
long
as
the
contract
was
under
a
certain
amount,
they
looked
at
just
the
list
of
minority
vendors
that
could
supply
that
particular
need.
So
again,
I'll
I'll
move
forward
and
I'll
follow
up
with
some
additional
questions.
C
So
you
mentioned
apprenticeships,
and
so
what
are
we
doing
from
a
city
perspective,
to
offer
an
apprenticeship
style
opportunity
to
small
local
and
minority
business
owners
so
that
they
could
increase
their
scale
and
ability
to
do
business
with
the
city
separate
from
the
work?
We
know
that
is
ongoing
with
the
school
district
of
which
I
am
continuing
to
work
with
them
on.
C
You
know
ensuring
that
we're
looking
at
the
labor
market
forecast
and
aligning
some
of
our
cte
programs
to
the
life
sciences,
industry
and
some
of
the
jobs
we
know
that
are
coming
to
philadelphia.
But
what
are
we
doing
from
a
city
side
to
provide
an
apprenticeship
style
program
for
small
and
local
minority
businesses?.
I
M
Hi
everyone,
karen
fegley
again
from
commerce
department
right
heloise
jettison,
is
not
she's.
Actually,
I
believe,
listening
in,
but
we
don't
have
her
dialed
into
the
call
to
speak
today.
She
and
all
of
us-
and
you
know
commerce
leadership-
have
been
involved
in
these
in
these
meetings
and
are
certainly
in
the
planning
stages
of
taking
existing
programs.
We
have
to
the
next
level
to
to
support
exactly
what
you're
talking
about,
but
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
on
those
detailed
plans
as
they're
coming
together.
C
Okay,
well,
I
look
forward.
How
are
you
karen?
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
commerce
department
on
ensuring
that
we
are
doing
all
we
can
to
bring
more
businesses
into
the
fold,
but
also
helping
them
navigate
the
thorny
waters
of
doing
business
with
the
city
and
the
arduous.
You
know
procurement
process
that
we
have
in
place.
C
Those
are
all
what
we
call
barriers
to
local
and
minority
businesses
even
wanting
to
get
into
the
arena,
so
we
have
to
ensure
that
we
are
eliminating
those
barriers
so
that
we
can
have
more
minority
businesses
in
the
fold
which
I
know
will
help
us
hire
more
minority
philadelphians
into
these
roles
at
these
set
businesses.
I'm
therefore
helping
all
the
other
challenges.
We
know
that
we
face
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
kathleen.
C
I
will
say
that
I
know
you
all
are
doing
all
you
can
to
to
try
to
increase
minority
participation,
but
we
all
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
I
still
hear
from
minority
vendors
that
just
want
to
have
an
opportunity
are
concerned
about
the
selection
of
organizations
that
are
not
here
or
located
or
based
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
for
some
of
the
the
work,
particularly
down
at
the
airport.
C
So
I
know
we
all
will
continue
to
work
together
to
do
all
we
can
to
ensure
we
have
more
local
and
minority
businesses
in
the
fold
at
the
at
all
of
the
city
agencies
and
not
just
one.
So.
Thank
you
very,
very
much.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
lastly,
mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
all
the
departments
for
responding
to
the
in-depth
questions
I
had
after
the
last
budget
cycle.
C
So
we
say
minority
in
a
city
like
philadelphia
where
we're
44,
african-american
and
we're
using
the
word
minority
is
typically
not
african-americans
who
are
receiving
these
opportunities,
whether
they
are
male
or
female.
A
lot
of
those
categories
have
straight
zeros
all
the
way
down,
and
I
look
forward
to
discussing
that
with
all
of
you
in
the
budget
process,
because
it's
a
thousand
pages
the
report,
it
has
taken
us
some
time
to
get
through
it,
but
some
of
those
numbers
are
abysmal
and
I
just
wanted
to
leave
each
and
every
one
of
you
with
that.
C
A
Thank
you,
council
member.
I
appreciate
that
since
there's
no
any
additional
questions.
Mr
mcdonald,
can
you
please
call
the
second
panel
for
resolution
two
one:
zero,
nine
six?
Six,
yes,
can
we
please
have
leslie
richards,
andy
abdullah,
stephen
zuck
aaron,
eric
watkins
and
ann
bouvard,
nevins
all
teed
up,
please.
N
N
Results
of
this
study
helped
to
produce
recommendations
and
act,
action
items
that
have
benefited
the
transportation
industry
in
pennsylvania
and
helped
to
inform
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
initiatives
that
we
have
advanced
here
during
my
tenure
as
sept
as
ceo.
In
fact,
many
of
you
already
know,
because
I
worked
with
many
of
you
on
that.
We
we
borrowed
from
septa
and
now
sept
is
borrowing
from
penndot
as
well,
and
we
we
worked
well
together
on
this
goal.
N
Now,
with
the
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs
act,
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
that
was
passed
last
fall.
Septa
is
taking
a
leading
role
in
helping
to
launch
the
equity
and
infrastructure
program.
It's
a
new
national
effort
to
grow
and
strengthen
historically
underutilized
business
participation
in
infrastructure.
N
These
funds
will
help
septa
address
some
of
our
most
pressing
infrastructure,
rehabilitation
and
vehicle
replacement
needs,
and
we
are
eager
to
put
these
investments
to
work
for
our
customers
and
the
communities
we
serve
beyond
rebuilding
the
assets
that
support
septa's
mobility
mission.
We
know
that
transit
investments
transcend
concrete
and
steel.
Our
projects
connect
people
to
opportunity,
build
vibrant
communities
and
have
a
cascading
impact
on
the
local,
regional
and
state
economy.
N
Contracting
is
an
opportunity
to
invest
in
our
community
who
we
hire
to
supply
goods
and
services
and
fulfill
construction
contracts
is
a
reflection
not
just
of
our
programmatic
needs,
but
of
our
values.
Septa
takes
this
responsibility
seriously
and
we
value
our
important
role
in
promoting
broader
and
equitable
economic
opportunities.
N
N
That
is
how
we'll
maximize
infrastructure
investments
to
fully
deliver
to
our
communities
in
support
of
equity
and
infrastructure
programs.
Septa
is
convening
an
internal
working
group
to
increase
the
number
size
and
scope
of
small
and
disadvantaged
business
contracts
awarded.
We
plan
to
establish
a
small
business
set-aside
program
and
the
goal
of
increasing
the
number
of
prime
contracting
opportunities.
N
One
approach
we
plan
to
explore
is
subdividing
contracts,
wherever
possible
to
facilitate
the
scaled
growth
of
historically
underutilized
businesses,
including
existing
dbe
firms.
In
our
current
program.
Another
primary
goal
of
this
initiative
for
septa
will
to
be
engaged
more
to
engage
more
small
businesses
in
the
large
projects
we
have
planned
like
trolley
modernization.
N
I
believe
that
our
applications
for
federal
grants
will
be
more
competitive
when
we
demonstrate
that
we
have
diverse
business
partners
working
together
to
advance
these
projects
of
regional
significance.
The
equity
and
infrastructure
program
has
the
support
of
the
septa
board
and
chairman
dion
will
be
joining
me
and
signing
the
pledge.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
my
colleagues
here
on
this
panel
and
across
the
commonwealth
to
build
this
program
into
a
new
industry
standard.
N
O
Thank
you
leslie
good
morning,
good
morning,
chairmans
cuellar
vice
chairman
and
committee
members,
septa
as
a
recipient
of
federal
funding
through
the
federal
transit
administration
fta
scepter
complies
fully
with
the
federal
disadvantaged
business
enterprise
dbe
program.
The
federal
dba
program
is
unique
both
in
its
structure
and
reporting
requirements.
O
O
Throughout
the
year,
we
send
out
monthly
e-blasts
to
registered
dbe
firms
regarding
upcoming
contracting
opportunities
at
septa,
upcoming,
pre-bid
and
pre-proposal
meetings
and
contracting
opportunities
and
outreach
events
with
other
agencies.
Additionally,
firms
that
are
registered
in
septa's
eps
system
receive
automatic
notification
when
a
product
or
service
within
that
firm's
area
of
business
expertise
is
being
procured
by
scepter
to
reach
as
many
diverse
businesses
as
possible.
O
This
information
is
also
shared
with
firms
in
the
in
the
pennsylvania,
unified
certification
programs,
pa
ucp
db
directory
the
city
office
of
economic
opportunities,
oeo
registry,
as
well
as
the
various
chambers
of
congress.
We
also
partner
with
the
city,
elected
officials
and
organizations
to
educate
small
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
through
a
series
of
targeted
forms,
including
the
city
annual
minority
enterprise
development,
med
week
event.
O
Following
the
passage
of
act,
89
septa
awarded
more
than
13
percent
of
state-funded
contracts
dollars
to
dbe
firms
over
the
same
five-year
period
between
2016
and
2020
septa
awarded
a
total
of
107
million
dollars
to
dbe
firms,
because
the
federal
dbe
program
is
very
specific
about
how
it
tracks
and
applies
procurements
with
certified
firms.
Septa
has
historically
not
captured
in
data
the
full
spectrum
of
procurements
and
business
done
with
diverse
businesses.
O
O
Currently,
964
of
the
6990
companies
have
provided
this
detailed
information
with
50
percent
of
respondents
identifying
as
a
non-white
and
50
identifying
as
female
as
a
result
of
those
two
efforts.
We
are
now
developing
a
fuller
picture
of
who
of
who
we
do
business
with,
which
will
improve
how
we
engage
them
in
the
future
and
how
we
can
generate
new
business
opportunities
for
our
dbe
firms
and
other
historically
underutilized
businesses.
O
This
is
an
important
opportunity
for
firms
that
are
not
currently
certified
as
dves
to
learn
more
about
the
program
in
advance
of
increased
federal
funding
being
made
available,
and
we
hope
you
will
share
this
with
your
institutions
as
well
as
business
and
businesses
on
behalf
of
septa.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
today,
leslie
and
leslie,
and
I
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
leslie
for
your
team
for
your
testimony.
Just
had
a
question
in
your
testimony.
You
indicated
that
16
of
your
fellow
funded
contracts
and
13
of
your
state
funded
contracts
were
awarded
to
disadvantaged
businesses.
Can
your
team
break
down
the
demographics
on
the
state
level
and
the
federal
level
who
was
awarded
those
contracts.
E
Yeah,
can
you
please
provide
that
data
to
the
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
just
so
we
can
just
have
a
complete
picture
of
the
work
that
you're
actually
doing.
I'm
excited
about
the
initiatives
in
terms
of
outreaching
and
partnering
with
the
enterprise
center
regarding
doing
the
abc's
of
of
becoming
a
minority
certified
business,
I'm
always
getting
phone
calls
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
E
Regarding
you
know,
individuals
who
want
to
do
business
with
the
city,
but
I
tell
them
you
must
be
minority
certified
and
they
know
that
they
have
the
growth
for
you,
obviously
other
entities,
but
we
always
recommend
them
to
suffer
so.
Give
me
an
idea
with
the
new
diversity
initiatives
that
you
have.
What
are
your
targeted
goals?
Moving
forward
like
with
the
infrastructure
initiatives
and
so
forth,.
N
We
identified
several
several
issues
in
talking
with
chicago
transit.
I
work
very
closely
with
dorville
carter
who's,
the
ceo
of
the
chicago
transit
authority.
We
looked
into
their
small
business,
set
aside.
What
worked,
what
did
not
work,
what
they
shared
with
us
is.
They
had
the
best
of
intentions,
they
put
together
a
great
program,
but
the
participation
wasn't
where
they
expected
or
where
they
wanted
it
to
be,
and
they
realized
after
a
few
years,
when
they
went
back,
is
that
they
didn't
do
the
appropriate
or
they
could
have
done
better.
N
I
should
say
in
education
up
front:
that's
what
part
of
this
abc
for
dbes.
Are
we
asked
that
what
they
saw
was
a
lot
of
their
disadvantage.
Own
businesses
were
used
to
being
subs
and
they
didn't
know
how
to
be
a
prime.
You
know
they
were
making
more
opportunities
for
prime
projects
and
they
weren't
seeing
the
applications
they
weren't.
Seeing
the
interest.
N
One
thing
that
we
found
as
we
reevaluated
our
own
program,
that
even
the
disadvantaged
businesses
that
have
been
taking
that
have
been
part
participating.
20
of
them
are
doing
well
and
80
are
not
doing
well,
they
don't
have
the
resources,
they
don't
have.
The
support
that
they
need
part
of
equity
and
infrastructure
is
really
based
around.
I
shouldn't
say
part
of
it.
N
O
O
One
thing
we
have
that
we
have
found
successful
in
the
past
is
when
we
have
a
whether
it's
a
stimulus
or
a
new
infrastructure.
Don't
come
in.
You
know
coming
into
the
city
or
sector,
and
there
is
dollars
to
be
spent.
Is
we
we
try
to
upload
that
as
much
as
possible
by
having
you
know
huge
network
events
bringing
everyone?
O
You
know,
there's
still
a
gap
between
the
financing
and
the
bonding
and
the
insurance
that
the
small
businesses
really
need
to
have
in
hand
in
order
for
them
to
compete
on
projects.
So
again,
that's
a
global.
You
know
work
and
team
team
effort
where
we
try
to
facilitate.
You
know
that
aspect
of
you
know
them
being
able
to
do
the
work.
You
know
as
well,
as
you
know,
continue
education.
I
mean
again
to
the
to
the
small
numbers
of
the
dbs
are
getting
the
work.
O
O
O
O
Yes,
so
the
way
that
the
dbe
program,
the
federal
db
program,
is
structured,
you
know
it's
based
in
in
in
a
net
worth
value.
It
goes
through
a
process
whereby
the
minority
firm-
you
know
whether
it's
blackboard,
hispanic
or
a
women-owned,
you
know
have
to
be
have
to
be
certified
as
a
dbe.
We,
I
don't
have
that
information
for
you.
You
know
for
you
customer
johnson,
but
we
could
try
to
you,
know,
give
you
a
breakdown
of.
N
Yeah,
we
can
definitely
we
will
we'll
keep
track
of
that,
and
I
can
tell
you
a
specific
emphasis
on
the
equity
in
infrastructure
program
is
on
black
and
brown
owned
businesses,
so
we
will
be
tracking
that
and
I
just
I'm
not
sure,
and
we
are
still
waiting
from
usdot
as
far
as
separate
participation
level
goals,
but
it's
something
we'll
be
able
to
report
on
it's
something
we
want
to
see
increase.
We
want
to
see
it
increase
significantly.
N
C
N
Part
of
us
signing
the
pledge
we'll
be
going
into
more
detail
information
than
we
currently
have
again.
The
pledge
is
going
to
hold
us
accountable.
There
are
metrics
that
we
will
be
signing
on.
We
obviously
will
be
sharing
them
with
you.
Not
only
that,
but
we've
been
asked
as
one
of
the
first
five
signers
and
we're
the
only
signers
on
east
of
chicago
to
get
other
entities
involved
so
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
all
of
you.
N
Obviously,
we
would
love
to
share
the
goals
with
the
airport,
with
otis
that
that
includes
all
of
the
commonwealth
transportation
agencies
with
penndot
as
well.
I've
already
spoken
to
secretary
grahamian.
We
have
a
lot
of
excitement
here
in
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
with
us
all
working
together
on
that.
So
we
will
share
those
metrics.
We
will
need
to
gather
them
as
part
of
the
pledge.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
pledge
was
very
careful
in
not
concentrating
on
dis.
O
Now
so
just
one
thing
I
would
like
to
add
is
that
so
we
currently
have
our
disadvantaged
business
enterprise.
You
know
goal
that
we
set
is
the
three
year
goal
that
we
set
and
we
share
with
fda
and
basically
their
approval.
So
we
have
that
goal
for
and
we
applied
that
goal
across
our
you
know:
different
contracts
for
good
students.
C
C
Okay,
and
so
when
you
say
15,
would
you
be
able
to
break
that
down
for
me
and
I
only
access,
because
I've
asked
every
city
department
for
this
information
the
city
has
provided
it.
I
told
you
before
it's
a
one
thousand
page
report.
So
what
is
it
broken
down
relative
to
goal
for
african-american
businesses
broken
down
by
african-american
male
african-american,
female
hispanic,
male
hispanic,
female
asian
male
asian
female
and
on
dam.
O
Yeah
so
unfortunately,
it's
not
broken
that
it's
not
broken
down
in
that
fashion.
The
way
it's
broken
down
is
basically
taking
a
look
at
the
projects
that
we
have
upcoming
and
then
looking
at
the
number
of
registered
dbes
or
certified
dves
within
the
database.
That
could
actually
perform
some
of
the
work
you
know
within
the
upcoming
projects,
but
I
think
to
the
to
the
question
the
point
that
was
asked
before
we'll
go
back,
you
know
historically
and
take
a
look
at
where
the
words
are
and
then
break
down.
C
Sure,
because
I
mean
I
think
you
all
recognize-
that
in
order
for
us
to
adequately
measure
the
success
of
any
of
these
initiatives,
we
need
something
to
to
go
off
of
some
information
to
analyze,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
seeking
to
gather
with
these
questions.
So
I'll
then
ask
my
follow-up
question,
which
would
be
what
is
your
current
participation
rates
for
businesses
broken
down
by
african-american
male
female
hispanic,
male
female
asian
male
female
going
down.
C
So
I
recognize
you
may
have
goals
that
you
can't
break
down
in
that
way,
but
because
you're
contracting
with
other
individuals
and
businesses,
you
would
know
or
have
the
demographic
information
of
those
entities
and
therefore
would
be
able
to
supply
that
information
to
us
broken
down
in
that
way.
So
currently
what
you
have
I'll
say
even
just
for
this
year
and
going
back
the
last
three
years,
what
is
the
breakdown
for
your
business?
Spend
with
those
businesses
african-american
male
female
asian,
male,
female
hispanic,
male
female.
C
N
Yeah-
and
we
totally
understand
it's
a
it's-
a
reasonable
request
and
it's
one
that
we
should
have
as
we're
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
for
those
questions
and
we'll
get
even
as
I've
been
in
this
arena
for
quite
some
time.
I
appreciate
the
questions
along
gender
because
I
don't
think
that
gets
enough
attention
and
I
don't
think
it's
been
collected
in
the
right
way
either
so
we'll
point
out
as
well.
N
I
know
we
have
asked
voluntarily
for
that
gender
information
and
we're
doing
a
better
job
of
collecting
it
and
part
of
these
equity
and
infrastructure
discussions
have
included
that
as
well.
So
that
is
definitely
something
that
has
been
brought
to
the
attention
nationally
as
well
and
we'll
keep
you
up
to
date.
C
It
was
zero
all
the
way
down,
but
in
the
other
women
categories,
for
instance
white
women
category,
it
would
have
it
was
like
a
hundred
percent
in
some
of
the
the
instances
or
83
percent,
but
all
the
other
categories.
It
was
either
zero
or
very
low.
So
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
pay
special
attention
to-
and
this
is
not
just
for
septa.
This
is
for
everyone
on
the
call,
because
this
will
come
up
again
during
our
budget
season.
C
We
need
the
breakdown
for
demographic
for
each
of
those
entities.
Please
come
prepared
to
the
budget
hearings
to
address
those
specific
questions
as
a
follow-up
from
the
report,
but
also
for
the
the
quasi-city
agency,
so
that
we
can
just
measure
the
progress
or
lack
thereof
that
you
all
are
making
in
this
regard.
So
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
and
finally,
I
just
wanted
to
add.
I
could
not
leave
this
conversation
without
putting
this
on
the
record.
Leslie
for
septa
apprenticeship
programs
will
be
very,
very
important.
C
We've
already
reached
out
to
your
team.
We
already
had
a
meeting
around
the
apprenticeship
program.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
for
that
meeting,
but
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
can
reestablish
some
of
the
programs
that
used
to
be
in
play
at
septa
that
are
no
longer
in
play
for
apprenticeship
programs
for
some
of
the
students
at
the
the
cte
schools
who
are
interested
in
a
career
either
in
transportation
or
in
fleet
management
or
or
automotive
mechanic.
C
Okay,
and
we
want
to
re-establish
those
programs
so
that
we
can
create
that
pipeline
for
some
of
the
industries
that
are
coming
to
philadelphia.
Some
coming
in
council
member
johnson's
district,
but
in
other
districts
we'll
have
multimodal
transportation
hubs
you
know
in
and
around
the
airport,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
connecting
young
people
to
that
employment
pipeline,
because
that
will
increase
based
on
our
labor
market
indicators
here
in
philadelphia
over
the
next
three
to
five
years.
C
So
we
will
circle
back
around
and
showing
that
you
all
have
the
additional
apprenticeship
programs
so
that
we
can
get
more
young
people
in
the
pipeline
for
those
jobs.
So
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
your
latitude
and
again
thank
you,
councilmember
johnson,
for
this
very
important
hearing.
Thank
you.
L
L
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
with
you
all
today
to
describe
the
efforts
that
the
school
district
is
taking
relative
to
diversity
and
inclusion
and
contracting.
I
want
to
start
by
highlighting
the
increasing
diversity
and
inclusion
in
the
contracted.
Work
performed
on
behalf
of
the
district
is
part
of
the
adopted
goals
of
the
school
board
and
the
school
district
administration.
L
L
We
do
have
more
detailed
statistics
on
this
information
in
our
quarterly
report,
which
is
available
on
the
school
district's
website.
In
our
submitted
testimony,
we
have
the
website
listed
there
as
an
overview
quickly
of
how
we
define
mwbe
entities,
so
the
school
district
tracks
minority
business
as
any
minority
owned
or
woman-owned
business
minority
ownership
is
defined
as
being
at
least
51
percent
owned
by
black
hispanic,
asian
and
pacific
islander
or
native
american
shareholders.
L
L
Just
first
and
foremost,
we've
recently
completed
the
hiring
process
for
our
director
of
diversity
and
small
business
and
we're
excited
to
bring
on
eric
watkins
in
this
role.
He
has
experience
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
including
an
oeo
and
in
construction,
and
he's
going
to
be
a
very
valuable
asset
to
our
team.
L
We're
really
excited
to
have
him
on
board
and
in
addition
to
the
the
compliance
that
we
want
to
ensure
is
you
know,
of
of
the
vendors
one
of
our
biggest
efforts
is
going
to
be
around
outreach
to
minority-owned
and
small
businesses.
So,
prior
to
the
pandemic,
we
were
hosting
in-person
workshops
for
vendors,
to
learn
a
process
meet
with
our
buyers
and
do
meet
and
greet
sessions
with
program
offices
at
the
school
district.
L
So
vendors,
in
a
given
industry,
for
example,
transportation,
could
meet
the
leaders
in
the
relevant
departments
at
the
school
district
of
philadelphia.
We
hope
to
get
back
to
in-person
sessions
pending
safer
levels
of
coba
transmission.
In
the
meantime,
we're
looking
to
host
some
virtual
sessions
for
vendors
to
learn
about
existing
opportunities
and
to
get
connected
to
our
program
offices.
L
E
L
E
L
E
All
right
just
make
sure
that
the
chair
gets
a
copy,
absolutely
not
that
information
to
other
members
of
council
give
me
an
overview
of
your
computer
procurement
and
contracting
services
around
your
buildings
and
contracts
and
developing
your
buildings.
I
know
there
was
some
negotiations
with
the
building
trades
in
the
past
regarding
how
you
were
going
about
utilizing
the
trades
to
do
the
work
with
the
school
district
and
making
sure
it's
diverse
and
inclusive.
Do
you
have
an
update
on
that
process?
L
Certainly
so,
regarding
diversity
in
in
our
construction,
specifically,
yes,
exactly
so
we
are
looking
to.
We
obviously
have
a
an
influx
of
funds
for
buildings,
including
from
the
federal
and
state
governments,
so
we're
looking
to
really
increase
our
outreach
and
and
ensure
compliance
as
well
on
these
contracts.
Specifically,
that
means
doing
audits
of
the
contracts
that
are
awarded
in
order
to
ensure
that
if
a
vendor
is
you
know
if
they
commit
to.
L
So,
for
the
most
recent
quarter
there
was
45
percent
of
our
awarded
dollars,
went
to
mwbe
firms,
so
that
was
about.
We
had
about
42
million
dollars
awarded
in
the
most
recent
quarter
that
we
reported
out
on
and
about
19
million
dollars
of
that
went
to
mwbe
businesses,
and
I
can
provide
the
breakdown
as
well
of
that
all
right.
That's
what
I.
E
B
Okay
right,
as
of
now,
I'm
still
learning
the
lay
of
the
land
here
at
the
school
district.
Much
like
the
city
of
philadelphia,
wii:
u,
where
they
measure
things
through
city
departments.
Here
they
have
program
offices,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
get
to
meet
everyone
in
all
these
program
offices
and
find
out.
E
B
Well,
I
I
think,
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
some
of
the
larger
program
offices,
where
they
have
the
larger
contracts,
specifically
in
construction.
As,
as
I
hear
a
lot
on
the
call
you
you'll
be
able
to
get
the
maximum
participation
through
those
processes.
If
we
get
the
companies
enough
companies
registered,
we
have
to
build
out
our
own
internal
database
as
well,
in
conjunction
with
using
the
data
from
other
entities,
much
like
oeo
and
we
bank
and
emsdc,
and
so
once
we
get
that
established.
B
We
can,
you
know,
understand
the
process
of
getting
them
certified
and
regis
registered
with
the
school
district
and
get
in
the
process
early
enough
through
the
program
offices,
so
that
we
can
get
the
information
to
them.
So
they
can
be
prepared
to
be
able
to
bid
as
a
prime
or
participate
as
a
subcontractor.
E
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
steve.
As
far
as
we
heard
earlier
from
department
and
not
sure
how
many
people
have
been
to
borrowed,
but
have
you
received
during
your
time
there
contractors
that
have
not
followed
the
proper
protocols
or
given
information
that
wasn't
accurate,
that
you
would
then
not
have
them
work
at
the
school
district.
L
So
we
we
have
had
to
work
with
a
number
of
organizations
who
you
know
say
commit
to
a
a
percentage
initially
and
then,
when
the
contract
starts,
you
know
or
saying
that
they're
having
trouble
meeting
that
so
we
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they
can
meet
it.
We
also
work
in
conjunction
with
the
city
of
philadelphia.
So
if
the
city
is
looking
to
debar
a
company
due
to
say
you
know
fraudulent
behavior
on
on
inclusion,
we
would
also
follow
that
process.
For
you
know
to
investigate
the
same
vendor.
L
L
A
C
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
mr
chair,
and
I
thank
you
again
to
the
school
district
of
philadelphia
for
participating
in
this
hearing.
I
just
wanted
to
circle
back
to
your
testimony,
mr
zook,
where
you
notated
in
your
testimony
that
your
minority
spend
numbers
relative
to
dbe,
includes
white
women-owned
businesses,
so
I'll
offer
the
same
question
to
you
that
I
offered
to
septa
into
all
of
the
entities
on
the
call.
C
A
L
F
L
Sure
so
it
is
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
for
us.
There's
a
number
of
things
that
we're
looking
to
do
one
one
of
the
largest
challenges,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
hear,
is
financing
and
bonding
insurance
requirements
for
small
businesses.
It
can
be
difficult
to
get
that
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
get
back
to
is
hosting
these
in-person
sessions,
where
we
can
have
small
businesses
come
in
and
meet
with,
not
just
the
school
district,
but
also
connect
them
to
the
enterprise
center.
L
So,
historically,
we
had
people
like
the
enterprise
center
and
other
organizations
who
can
help
with
financing
help
connect
them
to
other
organizations
to
build
their
capacity,
and
then
the
other
aspect
is
looking
at
how
we
award
our
contracts
so
obviously
being
the
school
district.
A
lot
of
our
contracts
are
very
high
dollar
value.
If
some
of
those
contracts
can
be
broken
down
into
smaller
dollar
amounts,
they
can
be
available
to
smaller
businesses.
L
That
may
not
have
the
capacity
at
this
time,
and
if
they
have
a
few
of
those
smaller
contracts
as
primes,
they
can
build
up
their
capacity.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
we're
looking
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
can
identify
opportunities
that
are
of
a
size
that
a
smaller
business
can
can
bid
on
and
have
the
bonding
capacity
for
have
the
insurance
capacity
for
and
then
build
up
to
to
larger
contracts.
F
So
you
spoke
about
partnering
with
enterprise
center
and
the
work
that
that
entity
is
doing
in
the
work
dell
clark
has
done
for
some
time.
So
are
you
also
partnering
with
ms
clark
and
the
work
they're
trying
to
provide
and
raise
equity,
because
one
of
the
issues
that
a
number
of
mature
companies
have
is
that,
yes,
they
have
debt,
but
they
need
access
to
equity.
So
it's
a
school
district
using
its
resources
and
relationships
to
help
grow.
Some
of
the
initiatives
that
she's
trying
to
do
in
rapidly
growing
equity.
F
F
You
also
have
deposits,
so
you
work
with
a
number
of
financial
entities
and
I
think
that
the
work
that
she's
trying
to
do
through
the
innovative,
their
innovate
capital
growth
fund
would
be
an
opportunity
where
the
school
district
could
really
say.
Yes,
we're
trying
to
grow
black
and
brown
businesses
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
when
I
can
just
do
it
through
the
traditional
way
of
you
know
de-bundling
contracts,
but
we're
going
to
use
our
resources
and
help
connect
with
the
entity
that
we
work
with.
F
And
miss
green
harvey.
You
know,
I
know
your
father
as
well
so,
but
on
a
separate
perspective,
if
we
can
look
at
how
we
can
go
into
providing
optimals
on
the
equity
side,
because
that's
something
that
we
don't
see
and
we
don't
have
the
capacity
that
we
need
for
black
and
brown
businesses,
especially
mature
businesses,
to
not
just
go
into
debt,
but
also
have
to
grow
equity
in
that
space
and
that's
something
that
can
help
grow
those
businesses.
L
Yeah,
absolutely
it's
something
that
we'd
definitely
be
interested
in.
You
know
finding
innovative
ways
to
to
grow
businesses
and
address
some
of
the
the
real
concerns,
because
it's
not
ultimately
just
about.
Is
there
a
contract
available
to
bid
on
it's?
You
know,
like
you
mentioned
it's,
do
they
have
the
equity?
Do
they
have
the
you
know
the
financial
stability
to
for
these
for
these
contracts
and
it's
something
we'd
be
very
interested
in
participating
in.
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilman
is
any
other
questions.
Seeing
none
we'll
have
miss
nevins.
I
guess
if
you
could
testify-
and
I
know
jeff
hornstein
if
you
want
to
jump
on
right
after
miss
nevins,
because
I
know
you
have
to
depart
and
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
testimony.
P
We
identified
that
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color
residents
represent
the
majority
of
philadelphia's
population.
But
the
city's
diversity
is
not
reflected
in
its
business
ownership,
while
black
and
latino
or
latino
residents
make
up
forty
four
percent
and
seventy
seventeen
percent
of
the
population.
P
Pidc
is
currently
undergoing
a
strategic
planning
process
which
explicitly
seeks
to
incorporate
a
racial
equity
lens
to
align
and
bring
into
focus
our
leadership
opportunities
in
philadelphia's
economic
recovery.
We've
invited
all
council
members
to
provide
input
in
this
planning
process
as
key
stakeholders
in
our
work
and
look
forward
to
partnering
with
you.
A
key
element
of
that
planning
process
is
the
creation
of
an
equitable
framework
for
pidcs
contracting
and
procurement,
where
we
recognize
that
we
have
made
strides,
but
that
we
have
significant
room
for
growth
and
improvement.
P
P
However,
part
of
the
selection
process,
including
evaluating
the
company's
commitment
to
environmental
sustainability,
as
well
as
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
So
under
this
contract,
dominion
will
also
manage
major
repairs
and
capital
projects
to
the
navy
yard
utility,
which
are
anticipated
to
total
somewhere
between
20
and
40
million
dollars
over
that
same
10-year
contract
period.
P
P
We
are
seeking
to
ensure
that
our
commitment
to
inclusive
procurement
and
expanded
opportunities
for
mbe
and
wbe
companies
is
front
and
center
across
all
aspects
of
our
organization,
and
we
know
that
we
still
have
much
work
to
do.
For
example,
we
have
not
disaggregated
our
contracting
data
by
race
and
ethnicity
and
including
the
intersection
with
gender,
but
we
will
do
so
for
our
prior
two
years
and
provide
that
information
to
this
committee.
P
Our
commitment
at
pidc,
you
know,
given
our
mission
around
economic
development,
really
goes
beyond
just
the
contracting
side
of
things
as
we
look
at
how
we
can
support
minority
and
women-owned
enterprises
to
participate
in
philadelphia's
economic
future.
One
example
of
this
that
I
know
is
is
very
important
to
council
member
johnson,
since
this
is
his
district.
Is
the
recent
process
to
select
a
new
development
partner
for
the
future
phases
of
growth
and
development
at
the
navy
yard?
In
selecting
that
that
partnership,
we
put
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
at
the
forefront
of
the
selection.
P
Our
process
strongly
encouraged
all
bidders
to
include
minority
equity
ownership,
as
well
as
robust,
diverse
business
participation,
which
we
believe
is
setting
a
new
standard
and
expectations
not
only
for
our
own
projects,
but
for
development
in
philadelphia
as
a
whole.
In
selecting
the
combined
team
of
ensemble
mosaic
to
become
the
new
private
development
partner
at
the
navy
yard,
the
group's
commitment
to
deni
at
all
levels,
including
their
ownership,
really
helped
their
proposal
to
stand
out
in
a
highly
competitive
selection
process.
P
Their
commitment
includes
minority
equity
investment
for
all
projects,
community
investment
platform
that
will
allow
philadelphians
to
invest
through
crowdfunding
in
the
ownership
of
the
projects
at
the
navy
yard.
A
charitable
foundation
that
will
be
funded
with
some
of
the
proceeds
from
the
development
to
support
economic,
empowerment
of
minorities
and
women
in
real
estate
development,
a
commitment
to
both
diverse
and
local
workforce
participation
in
construction,
business
opportunities
in
terms
of
affordable
tenant
spaces
for
minority
and
women.
P
Pidc
believes
that
that
that
the
model
example
at
the
navy
yard
will
lead
to
and
has
even
in
some
cases,
led
to
subsequent
projects,
adopting
a
similar
approach
and
creating
new
opportunities
for
black
and
brown
developers
in
our
city.
We
are
also
pairing
this
with
increased
access
to
capital
for
those
developers.
Over
the
last
two
years,
we've
provided
somewhere
in
the
range
of
27
million
dollars
to
developers
of
color,
both
for-profit
and
non-profit
entities
for
development
projects
throughout
the
city.
P
We're
also
strongly
committed
to
deploying
financial
and
business
education.
Resources
to
communities
that
have
been
historically
disenfranchised
from
access
to
capital
pidc
has
a
broad
set
of
activities
and
services
that
are
specifically
targeted
to
support
minority
business
enterprise
contracting
outside
of
large
development
projects.
Our
contract
line
of
credit
provides
support
to
small
minority
women
and
disabled
owned
businesses
that
need
a
line
of
credit
to
fund
contract-related
working
capital.
Currently,
pidc
is
supporting
13
contractors
through
that
product
and
related
business
supports
of
those
businesses.
P
77
are
black
owned,
8
percent
latino
owned
15
percent
white
owned
and
31
percent
women
owned.
We
are
committed
to
supporting
these
small
business
owners
so
that
they
not
only
receive
much-needed
capital,
but
also
education,
services
from
pidc's
business
experts
through
client,
engagement
and
one-on-one
support
services.
Our
team
provides
business
supports
and
education
to
help
with
the
development
of
the
knowledge
around
financials
market
operation.
P
We
acknowledge
that
this
work
requires
actively
engaging
stakeholders
listening
to
community
leaders
and
experts,
reflecting
and
intentionally
developing
equitable
economic
opportunities
that
will
support
minority
business
development
that
is
inclusive
of
every
philadelphian
pidc
is
committed
to
long-term
change
so
that
together
we
can
create
a
city,
an
economy
that
supports
every
neighborhood,
allows
all
of
our
citizens
to
thrive
and
drives
growth
to
every
corner
of
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
E
E
You
broke
down
the
expenditures
of
the
contracts
that
have
been
distributed,
but
within
the
categories
just
the
actual
demographics,
and
so,
unless
that's
the
theme
today,
so
we
can
do
a
deeper
dive
on
separating
the
support
for
predominantly
african-american
hispanic
businesses
separate
from
rather
be
lgbtq,
ai
businesses
or
veteran
businesses
or
women
businesses,
which
we
all
support
right.
But
we
want
to
definitely
make
sure
that
around
african
and
hispanic
businesses
that
there's
an
emphasis
there
do
you
have
any
direct
data
reflecting
that
information
today.
E
E
J
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
holding
this
hearing
and
ann.
I
know
we
have
a
meeting
pending.
I
also
have
a
data
request
if
you
could
submit
to
to
the
chair
when
you
spoke
around
access
to
capital,
you
talked
about,
you
know
the
work
you're
doing
around
13
contractors
and
so
forth,
and
and
some
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
there.
Could
you
provide
the
data
around
where
your
investments
are
outside
of
contracting
your
loan
products
and
and
then
break
that
down
demographically?
J
I'm,
you
know,
as
you
know,
the
conversation
is
always
around
access
to
capital,
access
to
capital,
and-
and
while
I
want
to
encourage
the
work
around
the
supporting
13
contractors,
I
want
to
know
of
the
lending
that
pidc
has
done
and
please
separate
the
one
that
is
our
cap
related,
because
those
are
required
by
the
state
versus
your
traditional
lending
by
demographic
information.
That
would
also
be
helpful
to
us
in
looking
at
you
know
at
what
is
a
real,
crucial
part
of
this
conversation.
P
Absolutely
council
member
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that,
so
we
will
get
that
information
into
the
committee
as
well.
I
can
speak
to
it.
You
know
I
mentioned
the
demographics
for
our
contract
line
of
credit,
but
I
can
also
speak
to
it
briefly
if
you'd
like
regarding
our
restart
philadelphia
loan,
which
is
probably
the
largest,
which
is
the
single
largest
business
lending
program,
that
we
have
been
running
really
over
the
last.
You
know
two
years
and
that
is
part
of
our
economic
recovery
efforts.
P
To
date
we
have
approved
around
53
loans
to
small
businesses
in
that
program
close
to
six
million
dollars
and
in
terms
of
the
racial
demographic
breakdown.
For
that
that
program
we
have
14
asian
or
asian
american-owned
businesses,
31
black
or
african-american-owned
businesses,
18
hispanic
or
latino
owned
businesses
within
that
product.
But
we'll
we'll
review
the
data
comprehensively
and
get
that
over
to
you
for
all
of
our
lending
activities.
J
And
I
I'm
encouraged
by
the
increase
of
the
numbers,
although
I
will
say
I'm
extremely
disappointed
in
how
bad
the
numbers
were
prior
to
what
you
outlined
in
2022.
I
think
you
know
those
of
us
who
you
know
this.
The
city
has
an
extensive
relationship
with
pidc
and
when
I
looked
at
your
contracting
numbers,
you
know
10
in
2019,
you
know
17
in
2020
and
now
31.
P
That
is
our
strategic
planning
partner,
so
they're
working
with
us
on
kind
of
a
relatively
broad
scope,
but
one
very
specific
piece
of
it
is
coming
up
with
new
policies,
procedures
and
practices
related
to
contracting
and
procurement.
So
that's
actually
a
big.
You
know
part
of
the
scope
that
they're
working
on
now
all
council
members
have
been
invited
to
participate
in
upcoming
session
with
madison
advisor.
P
We
would
love
to
you
know,
engage
with
council
make
sure
that
we
get
your
input
as
we
you
know,
look
holistically
at
pidc's
overall
strategies,
but
specifically
around
this,
you
know
contracting
and
procurement.
So
we've
identified
a
lot
of
areas
for
improvement
in
terms
of
how
we
do
what
we
do
and
including
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
talked
about
already
on
this
call.
So
previously
we
have
not
been
disaggregating
the
data
by
race
and
ethnicity
and
including
looking
at
that
intersection
with
gender
as
councilmember
gilmore
richardson.
P
You
know
made,
I
think,
very
clear
in
in
her
earlier
questions,
so
that
is
absolutely
something
that
we
will
be.
You
know
doing
going
forward
and
I
think
and
we've
seen
this
with
our
lending
activity
too.
I
mean
council
member.
If
you
had
asked
me
that
question
about
you,
know
our
lending
data
and
breaking
that
out
by
race
and
ethnicity.
P
P
You
know
very
focused
on,
I
would
say
even
you
know,
giving
the
example
of
the
strategic
planning
work
that
we're
undertaking
as
an
example
when
we
went
to
procure
that
that
was
going
to
be
something
that
we
were
paying
for.
You
know
as
as
pidc
we
didn't
have
any
you
know,
federal
funding.
We
didn't
have
any.
You
know,
state
resources
that
were
coming
into
that.
That
might
you
know,
dictate
a
certain
type
of
procurement
process.
P
So
we
went
you
know
and
and
asked
for
recommendations
for
specifically
minority-owned
firms
who
do
that
type
of
service
that
we
could
potentially
partner
with,
and
we
got
a
really
robust
list
and
you
know
kind
of
built
that
out
and
we
used
that
to
undertake
our
solicitation
process,
because
we
felt
that
that
was
very
important
in
terms
of
you
know
who
we
wanted
to
work
with
and
how
we
wanted
to
partner.
So
again,
you
know
where
we
have
flexibility
to
undertake.
P
I
think
we're
really
just
trying
to
think
differently
about
how
we
started
also
how
we
build
relationships
and
how
we
think
about
you
know
our
client
base
as
opportunities
to
you
know,
build
relationships
to
support
people,
not
only
in
terms
of
the
access
to
capital
that
they
need.
But
how
are
we
connecting
those
businesses
with
real
opportunities
to
grow
and
scale?
I
think
that
is
part
of
the
excitement
that
we
have
that.
P
I
know
you
know
councilman
johnson,
referenced
about
the
navy
yard
and
the
fact
that
this
is
a
you
know
at
least
a
decade,
probably
a
multi-decade.
You
know
build
out
under
the
you
know:
new
development,
partnership
of
ensemble
and
mosaic,
and
how
can
we
work
collaboratively
with
them
as
they
go
out
and
and
develop
a
pipeline
of
you
know,
buildings
and
operations
and
retail
tenants
and
everything
that
needs
to
happen?
How
can
we
pull
together
all
of
pidc's
other
resources
are
lending
our
business
education.
P
J
And
then,
finally,
you
know
I
go
to
the
navy
yard
and
I
always
think
it's
a
different
world
and
unfortunately
it
is
a
different
world
than
the
rest
of
the
city
speak
to
me
about
what
what
are
the
challenges
and
what
are
the
goal,
setting
that
you're
going
to
do
around
ensuring
that
your
investments
are
more
equitable
around
the
city
and
other
neighborhoods
besides
the
naval
yard,
so
speak
to
me
about
what
you.
What
pidc
is
thinking
in
that
regard.
P
You
know
lending
resources
both
with
small
businesses
as
well
as
development
projects
outside
of
what
we
do
at
the
navy
yard
and
again
I
know
you
asked
for
that
data
council
member
and
we
will
provide
that
you
know
after
this
hearing,
but
you
know
I
guess
I
would
point
to
you-
know
our
lending,
particularly
in
terms
of
focusing
on
developers
of
color.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know,
we've
been
looking
at.
You
know
what
we've
done
over
the
last
two
years.
P
I
think
these
numbers
are
actually
a
little
dated
now
because
we
closed
some
things
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2021.
That
probably
aren't
you
know
reflected,
but
it
was
around
27
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
lending
to
projects
all
around
the
city.
I
don't
think
any
of
them
are
at
the
navy
yard.
Actually
so
all
you
know
outside
in
neighborhoods
from
you
know,
strawberry
mansion
to
wayne
junction,
to
you
know,
sharswood
that
are
that
are
led
by
developers
of
color.
You
know
both
for
profit
and
nonprofit.
J
Thank
you,
and,
and
and
again
I'm
a
little
frustrated
to
learn
that
some
of
this
capturing
of
data
around
ethnicity
was
not
happening
prior
prior
to
your
leadership.
But
you
know
we're
destined
to
repeat
history
if
we
don't
learn
from
it,
so
speak
to
me
about
how
you're
going
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
disparity
that
existed
and
how
that's
going
to
influence
your
goal.
Setting
as
you
move
forward.
P
Yes,
absolutely
so,
as
I
think
you
know,
we
are
going
through
this
strategic
planning
process,
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
incorporating
within
that
is
the
setting
of
new
key
performance
indicators,
so
we
had
had
previously.
You
know
a
three-year
strategic
plan
that
took
pidc
through,
I
think,
from
2018
to
2020
and
as
part
of
that
plan,
which
was
determined
in
2017
and
then
covered
the
next.
You
know
three-year
period.
P
Our
aggregated
goal
at
that
time
was
for
pidc's
business
lending
resources
to
achieve
50,
combined
minority
and
women
business
participation,
and
we
were
able
to
meet
that
goal.
But
I
think
you
know
to
your
point:
council
member,
that's
not
probably
enough.
You
know
relative
to
where
we
are
right
now
and
really
addressing
the
significant
disparities.
J
Thank
you,
ann,
and
let
me
remind
you
that
pidc
has
because
of
the
way
you're
set
up
and
the
table
in
which
you
operate.
You
know
you
have
a
lot
of
access
to
banks
who
have
historically
redlined
and
not
provided
equitable
disbursement
and
and
sometimes
have
supported
pidc
right
to
meet
some
of
their
own
legally
required.
J
Cra
requirements
really
going
to
look
in
the
next
year
about
those
how
you
set
those
goals
and
how
you
use
your
voice
and
your
table
to
advocate,
because
the
disparity,
particularly
in
the
banking
institution,
even
as
we
do
economic
development
in
the
community,
we
continue
to
see
the
numbers
are
not
equitable
and
in
some
of
the
investments
that
some
of
the
banks
are
doing.
You
know
that
how
you
shape
some
of
those
partners
that
are
at
your
table
shape
the
kind
of
investments
that
they
make.
J
Because
now
the
new
game
is,
you
know,
you're
giving
it
to
and
you're
investing
in
certain
zip
codes,
but
they
don't
tell
you
who
they're
investing
in
and
those
folks
again
continue
not
to
be
people
who
look
like
me.
So
it's
something
that
we
all
have
a
responsibility
to
continue
to,
monitor
and
advocate
for,
and
you
know
the
frustrating
part
about
government
is.
We
can't
ask
the
private
sector
to
do
what
we
don't
do
right?
It's
like
we
got
to
do.
J
It
first
show
that
it
could
be
done
and
then
we
can
hold
others
accountable
in
a
more
you
know,
transparent
way.
So
I
appreciate
your
work
and
your
effort
and
look
forward
to
looking
at
some
of
these
data
sets
that
will
come
in
and
again
the
goal
setting,
because,
ultimately
that
that
it
that
becomes
important
about
where
we're
going,
because
we
know
where
we've
been
and
we
don't
want
to
go
back
there
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
evans,
thank
you
for
your
work
at
pidc.
It's
interesting.
I
earlier
talked
about
a
individual
that
needed
some
additional
access
to
credit
and
you
had
reached
out.
He
actually
reached
back
out
to
me.
It
was
a
clerical
error
that
a
city
department
made
is
why
he
did
not
get
his
most
recent
invoice
paid,
which
we
believe
it
needs.
F
F
And
I
know
I
think
you
would
agree
that
access
to
credit
is
a
major
issue
within
the
city,
especially
for
black
and
brown
businesses,
and
I
know
you're
working
with
the
accelerated
fund,
which
is
an
interest
helping
to
help
help
address
issues
regarding
black
developers
and
working
closely
with
them
to
establish
kind
of
a
working
framework.
And
I
think
it's
that
type
of
cooperative
work
that
needs
to
occur
both
through
this,
hopefully
future
entity
as
well
as
pidc.
F
And
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you're
working
with
the
accelerated
fund
to
on
paper?
Both
you
and
the
accelerator
fund
are
very
similar,
but
you're
kind
of
working
together
to
help
grow
development
in
the
city
for
especially
black
and
brown
developers,
which
is
an
issue?
That's
a
concern,
especially
with
all
the
developments
happening
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
P
P
You
know
commercial,
industrial,
mixed
use,
retail,
you
know
job
creating
type
of
projects
and
the
accelerator
fund
was
really
focusing
specifically
around
the
incredibly
important
issue
in
our
city
of
affordable
housing,
and
so
you
know
sitting
side
by
side.
I
think,
as
you
know,
time
went
on
and
as
we
started
to
have,
you
know
more
collaborative
and
more
in-depth
conversations
with
our
you
know,
partners
at
phdc
and
also
with
the
city.
P
Who
is
our
target
market
and
that's
really
where
the
intersection
you
know
started
to
to,
I
think,
come
clearly
to
light
and
councilman.
You
were
part
of
some
of
those
conversations
and
in
kind
of
connecting
those
dots.
So
I
think,
as
we
both
realized.
You
know
that
that
that's
really
who
we
are
focused
on
supporting
with
our
capital
and
other
resources,
we
started
to
say.
P
Well,
you
know:
how
could
we
work
more
effectively
if
we
came
together
in
some
form
of
partnership,
make
it
easier
for
black
and
brown
developers
to
not
have
to
go
through
multiple
front
doors,
or
you
know
maybe
miss
out
on
you
know
if
there's
a
project
that
could
benefit
from
both
the
resources
of
the
accelerator
fund
and
of
pidc.
So
again,
we're
still,
you
know
really
still
in
the
kind
of
trading
ideas
trading
paper
trading.
P
You
know
possibilities
in
terms
of
how
we
can
partner
together
to
make
the
whole
greater
than
the
sum
of
the
parts,
but
we
think
that
there's
a
you
know
that
there's
that
they're
there,
especially
because
you
know
pidc
already-
has
through
pidc
community
capital,
unestablished
cdfi.
That
can
be.
You
know,
a
mechanism
that
I
think
can
can
help
to
support
what
the
accelerator
fund
is
seeking
to
do
as
they
go.
You
know
into
their
path
to
to.
P
F
So
that
way,
entities
that
are
coming
to
those
organizations
that
need
more
access
to
credit
than
the
access
to
lending
products
that
we're
working
collaboratively
so
we're
helping
to
grow
businesses
in
our
city.
And
when
we
have
the
numbers
I
talked
about
earlier.
We
can't
have
the
silos
of
our
financial
financing
entities
over
here,
but
in
the
city,
this,
the
city,
the
school
district
and
scepter,
or
come
in
contact
with
the
businesses
who
are
doing
either
some
work
or
would
like
to
do
more
work,
those
businesses,
but
they
need.
F
They
know
they
need
access
to
credit
or
need
access
to
additional
lending.
So
hopefully
this
the
collaborative
work
that
you're
doing
with
accelerated
fund
and
also
with
the
financial
start
in
the
future.
We're
also
leading
to
collaboration
with
the
city
and
septa
and
the
school
district,
so
that
way
we're
helping
and
providing
ecosystem,
not
just
on
the
contracting
side,
but
also
on
the
financing
side
and
access
to
credit.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
P
E
Q
The
latest
annual
disparity
report
from
the
office
of
economic
opportunity,
which
is
the
2020
report,
indicates
that
slightly
less
than
20
percent
of
city
contracts
were
awarded
to
minority-owned
businesses.
More
specifically,
black-owned
companies
only
won
11.5
percent
of
city
contracts
and
hispanic-owned
businesses
earned
about
3.5
percent.
This
re,
these
results
are
disproportionate
to
the
city's
population.
Q
The
philadelphia,
equitable
entrepreneurship
ecosystem
report
produced
in
partnership
with
united
way
the
commerce
department
in
pidc
further
indicated
that
black
and
brown
businesses
often
lack
the
capacity
to
compete
for
large
contracts
or
city
contracts
in
large
part.
Due
to
the
availability
of
opportunities
that
will
allow
these
businesses
to
grow.
Q
The
difficulty
connecting
with
and
working
with,
prime
contractors
and
the
view
that
prime
contractors
have
established
relationships
with
select
subcontractors
and
utilize
the
same
subcontractors
for
various
work
and
the
skepticism
of
the
city's
ability
to
pay
invoices
on
time.
Indicating
the
payment
process
is
very
challenging,
as
cash
flow
is
critical
to
daily
operations
of
small
businesses.
Q
With
the
forthcoming
infrastructure
dollars
from
the
biden
administration,
making
its
way
to
the
city.
We
have
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
to
encourage
to
encapsulate
and
to
ensure
that
philadelphia's
black
and
brown
population
have
equal
access
and
opportunity
to
funding
that
will
build
capital
for
future
generations.
Q
But
these
investments
must
be
intentional
at
every
level
and
that
every
sector
that
include,
but
is
not
limited
to
more
diversity
and
top
levels
of
government
that
are
in
the
decision-making
process
and
ability
for
departments
to
be
held
accountable,
that
don't
work
to
meet
mwdsb
goals,
develop
a
more
transparent,
streamlined
process
for
businesses
to
participate
and
greater
support
in
navigating
the
city's
procurement
system
and
process
for
our
city
truly
to
achieve
inclusive,
equitable
growth.
We
have
to
be
committed
to
wanting
to
change
this
disparity.
Q
The
days
of
the
city's
purchasing
and
contracting
more
goods
and
services
from
black
and
brown.
Businesses
must
be
secondary
to
ensuring
that
those
businesses
have
the
opportunity
to
receive
prime
contracts.
This
is
the
time
to
achieve
equity
and
ensure
all
philadelphians
have
the
opportunity
for
prosperity.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
today.
E
Thank
you,
regina,
and
I
appreciate
I
guess
I
would
call
it
the
front
line
feedback
from
the
benefit
that
you
work
with.
That's
a
part
of
the
chamber
that
added
to
this
particular
hearing
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
regina
okay.
Next,
we
want
to
have
from
jeff
hornstein
from
terrain
economy,
league.
R
R
Now,
public
policy
is
what
we're
discussing
here
today,
but
I
I'm
gonna.
You
know
go
away
from
my
text
that
I
started
in
the
beginning,
because
I
listen
very
intently
and
I
normally
do
a.
I
normally
do
a
radio
program
where
I
have
to
sit
still
for
three
hours,
so
this
is
a
long
period
of
time.
So
I
listen
intently.
R
I
listen
to
the
school
district.
I
listen
to
scepter.
I
listen
to
the
to
the
city.
Representatives
at
large
all
knew
that
they
were
coming
here
today
to
testify
and
the
resolution
that
you
had
very
clearly
laid
out
what
you
saw
as
the
problem
that
11
went
to
african
americans
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
R
I
noticed
that
nobody,
everybody
showed
up,
but
they
they
were
were
not
able
to
break
down
the
categories.
I
would
think
that,
if
I'm
being
asked
to
testify
that
I
would
assemble
my
staff,
I
would
have
had
that
information
and
I
would
have
been
ready
to
address
it,
whether
it
looked
good
for
me
or
not,
because
if
it
is
about
going
forward
and
and
improving
it,
they
don't
collectively
give
me
the
sense
that
they
fully
understand
that.
R
Unless
and
until
we
put
the
heat
and
the
pressure
on
the
people
they're
not
going
to
change,
they
haven't
changed
in
38
years,
we've
had
38
years
to
be
able
to
address
this
problem.
We
come
back
every
other
year
with
the
sense
of
urgency.
Some
of
us,
but
it
never
gets
done.
Let
me
tell
you
why
it
doesn't
get
done
if
we
don't
select
people
in
the
positions-
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
the
underlings
that
you
know
that
that
that
have
to
report
up.
R
R
R
R
So
that
they
can
get
rid
of
them,
there's
no
one.
There's
no
enforcement,
there's
no
investment
very
little
investment
here.
If
you
know
what
the
problem
is,
we
do
not
have
the
investment
that
goes
along
with
the
interest,
it's
public
policy,
its
interest
and
it's
investment,
and
if
you
don't
have
those
three,
we
will
have
the
same
conversation
counsel
next
year
year
after
next
and
then
we'll
clutch
our
pearls
and
wonder
why
our
kids
are
shooting
at
each
other.
R
Because
we've
robbed
them
of
all
opportunity
and
before
covet,
I
say
this
on
my
show.
The
black
women's
leadership
show
that
if
you
go
downtown,
this
is
before
coving
in
the
middle
of
the
afternoon
and
watch
who
comes
out
of
the
office
buildings,
you
will
not
see
any
of
the
people
who
we
need
to
see
working
in
center
city
and
in
in
and
around
these
corporations.
R
So
I'm
at
this
I'm
at
this
point
unless
we
get
from
the
top
down
the
kind
of
people
in
office
and
the
kinds
of
people
that
are
appointed,
who
are
very
interested
in
solving
this
problem,
not
give
us
their
rhetoric
but
solving
the
problem.
We're
going
to
be
right
back
here
again
and
guess
what
I'm
going
to
be
back
here
again
telling
you
the
same
thing.
R
R
E
A
The
executive
vice
president
of
team,
clean
incorporated
and
even
clean
is
a
janitorial
services
and
maintenance
company.
That's
been
in
existence
for
the
last
40
years,
headed
up
by
mr
ali,
and
I
really
would
like
to
thank
all
the
parties
who
who
have
facilitated
this,
starting
with
the
chairman
and
and
councilman
johnson,
and
all
that
are
present,
and
we
have
a
a
unique
experience
in
public
sector
procurement.
A
One
of
the
issues
that
we
basically
have
looked
at
over
the
years
is
that
you
know
minority
companies
are
no
different
from
the
fortune.
500
firms
that
have
received
you
know
massive
subsidies
and
support
in
the
aerospace
industry,
in
military
procurement,
agricultural
support
dollars
to
facilitate
the
growth
and
and
sustainability
of
those
sectors,
and
so
it
seems
as
though
you
know
there
there.
A
You
know
there
is
a
an
aversion
to
want
to
include
other
members
of
society,
black
and
brown,
to
engage
in
the
same
process
of
taking
advantage
of
opportunities
that
are
put
forth
by
the
public
sector.
So
there
there
are
robust
enforcement
procedures
within
oeo
that
can
be
enforced.
There's
there's
the
collaboration
that
should
take
place
between
finance
and
also
the
procurement
departments,
with
respect
to
companies
getting
paid
and
we'd
like
to
say
that
we've
had
a
an
excellent
relationship
of
after
going
through.
A
We
don't
do
some
pain,
but
we've
had
an
excellent
relationship
in
our
procurement
process.
Our
bidding
process
with
the
city
and
and
also
you
know
getting
paid
after
you
know.
You
know
some
delay
in
that
regard,
but
it's
not
the
type
of
thing
that
we
would
want
to
see
of
the
companies
that
exist
today.
The
black
and
brown
companies
that
exist
today
and
those
companies
to
to
follow
to
go
through
a
40
year
process
of
getting
up
to
scale.
A
So
so,
essentially,
you
know
one
small
bit
of
of
recommendation
that
we
would
like
to
make
is
that
you
know
there's
a
process
within
within
city
government
where
there
are
it's
known,
as
you
know,
the
certified
payroll.
We
have
to
basically
make
sure
that
we
are
paying
our
people
according
to
the
prevailing
ways.
That's
set
up
set
by
the
city
and
there's
a
process
that
we
have
to
go
through
to
certify
that,
and
everyone
here
is
pretty
much
familiar
with
that.
A
What
would
be
very
helpful
in
the
process
of
of
enforcing
that
provision
is
that
if
there
is
a
time
when
a
small
company
mid-size
a
company
minority
firm
or
a
female
owned
firm
has
not
met
that
requirement
timely,
that
a
notice
is
provided
to
that
company
prior
to
an
enforcement
action
taking
place.
So
because
you
know
there's
a
basic
disconnect,
there's
an
important
action
when
a
company
has
failed
to
comply
either
by
virtue
of
not
being
aware.
A
A
Also,
the
monitoring
aspect
within
oeo
really
has
to
be
set
up
with
respect
to
all
these
new
dollars
that
have
been
talked
about
on
this
call,
and
we
will
recommend
this
is
our
second
recommendation
that
a
special
unit,
a
special
unit,
is
set
up
to
facilitate
the
monitoring
of
all
of
these
federal
dollars
that
are
coming
into
the
city,
to
ensure
inclusion
and
a
diverse
thing
among
the
businesses
that
you
know
that
typically
shut
up.
So
those
you
know,
that's
just
really
our
summary.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
that
was
very,
very
informative
with
specific
recommendations,
and
you
also
provided
some
input
regarding
the
notification
process
which
is
eye-opening
to
me,
like
you,
can't
really
be
penalizing
an
individual
without
giving
them
proper
notice
regarding
the
payroll
program.
But
thank
you
for
those
recommendations.
Any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.
S
George
burrell
and
thank
you
very
much
councilman
and
it's
one
of
the
one
of
the
misfortunes
of
going
last
or
close
to
last.
As
a
lot
of
what
you've
said
has
either
been
said.
You're
going
to
say
has
either
been
said
or
you're
going
to
contradict
it
and
as
the
the
the
pessimist
in
the
crowd,
I'm
probably
going
to
contradict
more
than
I'm
going
to
agree.
S
Today
john
street,
as
mayor
created
signature
opportunities
for
black
businesses,
including
black
women
like
lorraine,
brown,
cheryl,
mckissick,
pat
corbin
and
lana
felton
gee,
but
unfortunately,
despite
periodic
winners,
administrations
and
public
agencies
have
not
made
the
review
and
decision-making
changes
in
procurement.
Protocols
required
to
deliver
proportionate
black
participation
as
a
predictable
outcome,
and
only
pidc
today
made
any
reference
to
the
procurement
process
and
the
biggest
and
the
biggest
problem
for
black
businesses
for
prime
contract
opportunities
and
or
subcontractor
opportunities
is
the
malfunction
of
the
procurement
process
in
the
city
and
public
and
public
agents
agencies.
S
S
Some
of
the
presenters
have
already
contradicted
my
thoughts.
They
challenge
black
business
preparedness,
describe
intermediate
solutions
and
recommit
to
change,
but
decades
of
broken
promises
and
black
demographics
demonstrate
existing
strategies
require
transformation,
blacks,
win,
virtually
no
prime
contracts
and
participate
in
eight
to
twelve
percent
of
annual
city
spending,
because
procurement,
personnel
project
managers
and
prime
contractors
intentionally
or
coincidentally
discriminate.
S
S
Achieving
black,
proportionate
participation
requires
difficult
decisions.
It
requires
increasing
the
percentage
of
annual
spending
with
protected
class
businesses
and
thereby
reducing
prime
contractor
spending
or
protect
protected
class
spending
has
to
be
redistributed
likely
negatively
impacting
white
women.
S
Given
civil
service
restrictions,
increased
oeo,
staffing
and
power
can
add
diverse
participation
and
perspective
to
procurement
reviews
and
awards
with
oeo
oversight.
City
departments
also
should
be
required
to
appoint
diversity
officers
responsible
to
prepare
and
submit
annual
and
individual
department
participation
plans
and
goals.
S
City
councils
should
recommend
city
and
public
agencies
retain
consultants,
and
I
applaud
pidc
for
having
done
this,
including
black
firms,
to
provide
aggressive
recommendations
for
transforming
procurement
protocols
and
producing
proportionate
outcomes
proportionate
black
outcomes.
Their
work
product
should
be
presented
in
public
hearings.
S
S
S
S
Too
often
they
are
given
low
level
low
margin
assignments
to
protect,
preferred
majority
subcontractors,
program,
sponsors
and
summit
talks
spoken
to
this
today.
Program
sponsors
should
unbundle
contracts
to
create
sheltered
markets
where
black
businesses
can
compete
for
prime
contracts
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussions
today
about
prime
contracts
and
prime
contracts
are
important,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
really
successful
rich
white
subcontractors
in
philadelphia.
S
S
Given
city
council's
transparency,
legislation
rfps
should
require
copies,
and
the
review
process
should
consider
evaluating
the
diversity
programs
of
prime
contractors
as
a
part
of
the
city
process.
You
all
have
talked
earlier
today
about
how
do
we
leverage
the
influence
of
agencies?
Well,
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
you
can
use
the
transparency
information
that
you
you
collect.
S
Percentage
participation
should
be
assigned
to
all
contracts,
low
bid,
best
value
and
sole
source.
Failure
to
satisfy
participation
should
disqualify
bidders
and
high
bars
should
be
mandated
for
for
granting
waivers.
Black
participation
also
should
be
mandated
and
change
orders
and
the
and
and
the
and
the
percentage
participation
measured
against.
All
businesses
is
because
the
percentages
that
we
see-
and
I
know
this
was
the
fact
with
the
state-
and
it's
probably
the
fact
with
the
city-
is
that
it's
not
all
of
the
dollars
spent
by
the
city
that
is
used
to
calculate
minority
participation.
S
When
you
include
all
the
dollars
in-
and
I
guarantee
you,
the
cities
is
likely
to
go
down
also
and
percentage
participation
should
be
assigned
to
all
contracts
to
low
bid
contracts,
the
best
value
contract
to
sole
source
contracts.
You
force
them
to
find
ways
you
don't
just
have
to
have
businesses
who
can
do
the
specific
things
in
there.
There
are
all
kinds
of
services
that
can
be
provided
in
contracts,
somebody's
got
to
carry
the
drive,
the
sole
source
information
somewhere,
and
there
are
lots
of
ways
to
be
able
to
do
that.
S
Annual
dot
annual
dollars
with
protected
class
businesses
also
should
be
calculated
based
on
actual
dollars
paid,
not
contracted.
It
shouldn't
be
on
an
accrual
basis.
It
should
be
on
the
actual
dollars
paid
in
in
a
fiscal
year
to
those
businesses,
and
it
should
be,
as
I
said,
as
a
percentage
of
dollars
spent
for
all
goods
and
services.
S
S
Forums
should
be
provided
for
subcontractor
protests,
otherwise,
blacks
are
at
the
discretion
of
prime
prime
contractors,
who
rely
on
lacks
oversight
to
protect
arbitrary
behavior,
because
protected
class
participation
can
be
achieved,
and
you've
talked
about
this
today
with
black
businesses
at
eight
to
twelve
percent.
The
city
reported
over
30
percent
participation
last
year.
Black
participation
must
be
monitored
and
managed
carefully,
and
you
all
have
stressed
that
point
very,
very
aggressively
to
very
aggressively
today,
and
it
also
might.
S
You
might
also
might
find
it
interesting
for
the
committee
to
meet
with
the
department
of
general
services,
deputy
secretary
kerry
kirkland,
to
hear
transformative
changes.
The
commonwealth
has
made
to
procurement
project
management
and
bipartisan
legislation.
That's
been
introduced
into
the
general
assembly
and
I
I
I
will
probably
get
tarred
and
feathered
for
the
following,
but
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
philadelphia
should
welcome
black
businesses
from
around
the
country.
We
shouldn't
close
our
doors
because
our
co,
our
companies,
you
take
a
prwt.
S
Those
companies
want
to
compete
at
nasa
if
you
close
our
doors,
they're
going
to
get
their
doors
closed
to
them.
You
can't,
and
we
allow
black
financial
advisors
from
all
over
the
country
to
come
in
here
and
do
our
financial
works
with
the
city
of
seibert
brantford
and
all
those
firms
are
outside.
So
I
think
we've
got
to
be
very
careful
about
about
foreclosing
it
to
to
out
coming
to
outsiders
and
last
and
the
last
two
things
given
philadelphia's
changing
racial,
racial
and
ethnic
mix,
multicultural
personal
and
professional
relationships
are
important,
absent
relationships.
D
May
I
just
have
something
to
say
just
a
few
words
please
councilman,
so
donna
ali
donna
ali
president
team
clean-
and
I
just
like
to
talk
about
a
few
of
the
programs
in
my
past
that
have
worked,
and
it
seems
like
we
have
kind
of
gotten
away
from
this,
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
programs
for
lack
of
a
better
term
programs
was
the
pennsylvania
convention
center.
You
know
years
ago,
and
george
can
probably
tell
you
about
this.
D
You
know
there
was
a
protest
to
get
you
know
when
the
convention
center
was
built,
they
need
they
wanted
black
and
brown
workers.
There
wanted
black
and
brown
companies
and
they
did
that.
I
was
one
of
the
firms
that
was
selected
but
as
a
subcontractor
went
in
as
a
subcontractor,
but
not
only
did
they
put
us
in
as
subcontractors
and
give
us
the
work,
the
convention
center
board,
and
I
guess
what
was
called
then
the
diversity
board
met
with
us
every
quarter
to
make
sure
that
we
were
succeeding
in
that
particular
contract.
D
What
could
they
do
for
us
to?
You
know
generate
more
business.
They
took
a
look
every
every
black
contractor
in
there
wasn't
only
about
getting
the
contract,
it
was
about
keeping
the
contract
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
and
they
shouldn't.
They
say
you
shouldn't
pie
in
the
past,
but
I
am
pining
the
pass
when
marla
was
at
oeo.
D
I
guess
it
was
called
the
minorities
business
development
council,
but
at
the
time
you
know
when
they
put
us
black
contractors
in
there
they
gave
us
contracts,
or
you
know
we
were
able
to
get
contracts
with
prime
contractors,
but
marla
met
with
us
whenever
there
was
an
issue,
a
problem
with
payment.
You
know
I
remember
back,
then
the
prime
contractors
didn't
want
me
in
there.
D
They
they
locked
the
door
when
there
was
night
meetings-
and
you
know
you
know-
do
all
kinds
of
terrible
things
so
that
you
know
my
contract
was
at
city
hall
and
I
was
cleaning
city
hall.
Most
of
the
meetings
were
at
night.
They
did
all
kinds
of
terrible
things
so
that
I
wouldn't
participate
or
feel
comfortable
in
that
particular
contract
and
so
marlette
would
meet
with
me.
Marla
would
meet
with
the
majority
with
the
contractors
and
let
them
know
that
this
was
not
acceptable.
D
So
you
know
I'm
just
saying
things
like
that
advocates
for
us
places
that
we
can
go.
I
mean
there
there.
There
are
problems
that
I
have
had
in
all
types
of
contracts
over
the
past.
I
guess
like
five
to
six
years,
but
nowhere
to
go
nowhere
to
advocate
you
know
and
I'm
a
growing
business
right,
I'm
not
the
startup,
but
we
still
have
issues
too.
D
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
to
george.
You
know.
I
appreciate
his
his
consistent
advocacy
over
the
years.
We
all
know-
and
I
think
joanna
touched
on
this
and
folks
have
touched
on
this-
this
whole
procurement
process
and
you
know
part
of
how
people
write
up
and
and
exclude
people
in
the
writing
of
a
procurement.
J
What
were
some
of
the
tools
that
you
use
when
contractors
didn't
meet
their
goals
because
outside
of
removing
them
from
the
contract
and
hurting
their
pocket,
the
behavior
is
not
going
to
change
because
they
know
they
can
get
away
with
it.
We
have
not
disqualified.
I
think
we've
disqualified
three
contractors
in
the
14
years,
I've
been
in
council.
S
I
I
think
the
failure
in
the
street
administration-
I
tell
people
this
all
the
time,
because
I
was
responsible
in
the
street
administration
for
awarding
contracts
to
people
of
color
and
we
did
a
very
successful
job
of
it.
But
the
failure
is
we
didn't
change
the
process
so
so,
once
I
left
a
process
that
does
all
of
the
things
that
you
just
described
got
back
into
play
and
we've
gotten
what
we've
gotten
since
then
at
some
point
councilwoman,
I
think
that's
why
I
said
in
what
I
just
said.
S
I
think
you
need
to
empower
oeo,
you
need
to
expand
their
staff
and
you
need
to
give
them
power
in
the
procurement
process
and
in
the
procurement
process.
You
need
to
do
what
the
state
does,
and
that
is
they
set
a
percentage
participation
requirement
and
if
you
don't
meet
that
percentage
participation
requirement,
you
are
disqualified,
you
are,
you
are
thrown
out
of
that
bid
process.
S
S
What's
the
contract
value,
what
are
the
profit
margins
and
within
30
days
after
the
award,
and
then
all
of
that
becomes
a
consideration,
a
specific
consideration
in
the
review
process,
so
that
you
have
percentages,
seven
percent
attached
to
it
five
percent,
so
it
becomes
significant
to
prime
contracts
and
it
could
be
the
percentage
that
makes
the
decision
about
whether
they
win
or
lose.
Where
now
we
oftentimes,
let
the
prime
contractors
pick
the
subcontractors
after
they
win.
S
So
it's
here,
so
it's
irrelevant
and
then
once
they've
done
that
they
require
the
prime
contractor
who
wins
to
deliver
them
a
signed
contract
with
with
black
subcontractors
for
the
work
they
say,
they're
going
to
give
them
at
the
price
they
said,
they're
going
to
give
it
to
them
with
their
profit
margins.
Because
what
happens-
and
I
see
keith
bethel
sitting
over
there-
the
corner.
He
knows
this
better
name.
S
But
what
often
happens
when
prime
contractors
are
awarded
the
contracts
without
the
and
agreeing
to
meet
the
percentage
goals
and
have
a
and
have
told
the
prime
contractors
who
they're
going
to
contract
with
they
then
go
back
to
them
and
say:
hey
I
got
it
now.
You
you,
I
was
going
to
give
you
a
contract
for
2
000.
J
No,
I
agree,
I
mean
when
rebecca
reinhardt
was
cao.
We
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
this
procurement,
because
one
of
my
biggest
frustrations
is
you
know
we
have
the
same
major
contractors:
the
streets
department,
water
department,
all
these
guys
and
I
have
struggled
to
get
the
law
department
and
the
administration
to
to
say.
J
If
you're,
not
meeting
your
requirement
on
one
contract,
you
are
no
longer
a
qualified
bidder
and
we
should
exclude
them,
as
you
said,
that
the
state
is
doing
from
the
next
bid
process,
but
we
have
the
same
contractors
misbehaving
and
then
they
keep
bidding
on
contracts
from
one
department
to
the
other
and
are
not
disqualified,
and
I'm
like,
if
they're,
not
meeting
their
goals
at
the
streets
department,
what's
going
to
make
them
meet
their
goals
at
the
water
department
like.
Why
are
they
still
considered
qualified
bidders?
J
J
One
of
my
challenges
is
with
these
departments
is
they're
halfway
through
their
contract
and
if
they
have
to
re-bid
it
out,
there
has
to
be
a
way
in
the
process
where,
at
some
point
we
can
disqualify
someone
go
to
the
next
bidder
quickly,
so
that
these
guys
don't
think
they
got
us
over
the
coals,
because
they're
so
into
the
contract
that
we're
not
willing
to
walk
away
from
them
and
in
government,
because
everything
is
so
delayed.
That
becomes
the
excuse.
You
know,
for
instance,
for
in
the
department
of
recreation.
J
When
I
got
elected,
I
learned
very
quickly.
One
of
the
few
contractors
that
got
disqualified
was
from
from
our
district
because
I
started
work
walking
the
construction
site
every
week,
and
you
know
the
contractor
had
12
contracts
and
he'd
do
the
work
to
the
to
the
jobs
he
wanted
to
and
then
sit
on
the
other
stuff,
and
I
think,
all
of
those
practices
that
goes
back
to
staffing,
accountability
and
oversight
as
a
government.
We
don't
do
well,
and
so
they
hold
this
hostage.
J
Stop
talking
about
this
and
really
do
something
about.
It
is
shameful.
It
is
shameful
the
numbers
that
we
have-
and
it
is
you
know,
shame
on
us
as
joanna
said
38
years
later,
we're
still
having
the
same
conversation.
There
has
to
be
penalties
for
this
and
we
know
who
the
bad
actors
are.
That's
the
sad
part
about
it
and
they
end
up
on
our
list.
J
They
don't
end
up
on
my
list
as
it
relates
to
some
of
my
departments,
because
I
already
crossed
those
out
right
and
I
was
like
how
is
this
person
better
than
this
person
or
so
forth,
but
it
is
a
challenge
to
see
it
across
the
board
with
our
department.
So
we
appreciate
all
of
your
advocacy
to
all
of
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
S
You
don't
necessarily
want
to
lose
good
contractors,
but
they're
going
to
do
what
you
let
them
do
and
and
the
in
the
procurement
department
and
the
project
manager
are
committed
to
them
and
let
them
get
away
with
this.
What
what
they're
doing
is
not
unknown
but
they're
not
doing
it.
Undercover
they're,
not
hiding
it,
they
are
they.
E
E
E
E
G
G
So,
council,
council,
chair
councilman,
johnson
and
city
council
members,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify.
I
am
keith
bethel,
I'm
the
president
and
ceo
of
the
philip.
It's
a
newly
formed
not-for-profit
that
really
looks
at
how
do
you
bring
together
alliances,
and
this
has
been
a
very
important
topic
with
us.
I
submitted
written
testimony,
but
for
time
I'll
shorten
this,
I'm
to
say
really.
G
The
focus
of
our
work
has
been
to
look
at
broadly
all
the
quasi
government
and
government
agencies
across
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
I
think
we
all
heard
the
problem
across
the
city.
There
are
systemic
issues
that
are
systemic
issues
or
racial
barriers
for
black
and
brown
individuals
in
this
city,
in
our
research
with
mckinsey
and
I'm
joined
today
by
karen
bergman
who's
from
the
nowhere
metro
finalized
lab
at
drexel.
G
Our
research
with
mckenzie
and
the
team
at
drexel
clearly
identified
their
significant
opportunity
for
the
advancing
of
black
and
brown
businesses
and
to
deal
not
just
with
black
poverty,
but
also
to
deal
with
the
black
median
household
incomes
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
We
often
talk
about
poverty.
Poverty
is
a
very
low
number.
We
have
more
than
40
percent
of
people
in
philadelphia.
Black
and
brown
individuals
sit
below
the
median
household
income
of
that
white
counterparts
in
this
city.
G
If
we
don't
build
both
and
that's
about
building
generational
wealth
and
sustainable
wages
that
are
significantly
higher
than
they
are
today.
So
we
spent
really
the
past.
We
spent
six
months
doing
research
mckenzie
on
the
minority
business
partnerships.
We
looked
at
ten
quasi
government
and
government
agencies
and
discovered
there
was
about
six
point:
six
billion
dollars
worth
of
opportunity
that
was
addressable
spin
for
minority
participation.
G
G
There
is
an
entry
around
certification.
We
talked
a
lot
today
about
capital
and
capital
access
long
before
we
get
the
capital
access.
We
need
to
get
the
fair
contracting
opportunities
and
rp's
that
are
written
in
such
a
way
that
are
transformative
the
barriers
of
entry
across
multiple
departments,
multiple
agencies,
limit
public
participation
by
visuals,
and
for
and
I
worked
at
hour
mark
for
32
years.
Big
companies
are
dependent
upon
significant
public
sector
spending.
Public
sector
spending
becomes
an
anchor
to
your
revenue
cash
flow
for
any
minority
business.
G
So
when
we
start
talking
about
building
businesses,
public
sector
spending
becomes
the
anchor
institution
that
allows
you
to
manage
all
your
back
office
and
other
expenses.
So
you
can
go
compete
in
the
private
sector,
so
we
came
forward
with
a
recommendation.
Should
we
consider
some
form
of
quasi-government
agency
or
nerve
center?
That
really
would
include
both
state
federal
local
elected
officials,
along
with
private
sector
financing
and
private
sector
leaders
and
civic
leaders,
who
would
jointly
work
on
ways
to
create
transparency,
leveraging
things
like
technology
to
look
consistently.
G
No
one
today
was
able
to
give
real
reports.
I
think,
as
close
as
we
got
was
ann
nevis,
who
spent
the
past
two
years
trying
to
get
really
good
at
this.
But
no
one
was
really
able
to
give
you
clear
details
on
black
participation
and
hispanic
participation
and
I
think
to
be
poor,
black
or
female
and
philadelphia.
You
can
be
to
be
black,
female
or
spanish
likely
to
be
that,
but
we
have
to
deal
with
the
idea
that
42
percent
of
our
population
is
african-american
and
we
sit
significantly
both
any
line
or
measure.
G
We
also
recommended
we
would
look
at
cities
who
have
done
this
work
well
like,
like
los
angeles
louisville,
st
louis
people
were
starting
to
do
the
work
of
putting
together
collaborative
teams
and
george
burrell
will
tell
you.
No
city
is
really
doing
this
well,
but
what
I
would
say
is
there
are
cities
who
have
a
firmer
grip
on
pulling
together
the
alliances
and
the
transparency
necessary
to
create
a
better
future.
We
should
do
this
better
than
everyone
else,
but
we
should
follow.
G
People
are
doing
those
types
of
leads
like
charlotte,
where
you
see
duke
energy,
leading
in
the
process
with
the
mayor's
office,
you
create
a
significant
access
to
capital
fund.
That's
where
we
see
the
future
says.
Could
you
create
some
form
of
nurse
center
that
collaborates
and
pulls
all
those
teams
together
and
really
starts
to
try
to
address
in
a
common
way,
significant
various
entry
for
black
and
brown
individuals
across
our
city?
G
In
in
economic
development,
with
that,
mr
chair
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
for
questions,
we
did
provide
a
deck
to
the
chair
and
hopefully
that
deck
is
one
that
everyone
gets
a
chance
to
see.
I
do
think
there's
robust
information
there.
We
share
that
certain
with
many
city
council,
people
one-on-one
with
the
mayor's
office
in
congress
and
karen
and
I
will
be
available
for
questions.
E
G
So
the
three
categories-
one
and
karen,
feel
free
to
chime
in
one
of
the
biggest
issues
is
looking
at
what
the
entrepreneurs
themselves
face:
certification
that
you
have
multiple
certification
pathways
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Could
we
get
to
a
simplified
common
certification
that
allows
you
to
qualify
and
there
still
may
be
specific,
federal
and
state
requirements
you
think
about
the
airport
and
other
places,
but
within
the
city
of
philadelphia,
the
school
board
school
boards
has
1.2
billion
dollars
in
capital
is
going
to
deploy
over
the
next
five
years.
G
We
should
have
one
common
certification
process.
So
looking
at
things
like
that
certification
and
barriers,
entry
for
the
minority
for
the
individual
for
the
minority
firms,
the
other
more
varies
when
the
rfp
process
itself
and
purchasing
every
corporate
and
rp
is
we
issued
rfps
that
have
more
detailed
recountability
and
I
think,
george
brought
this
up.
More
transparency
in
the
rfp
process
would
make
it
easier
for
minority
participants
to
be
not
just
primed
but
well-vetted
and
well-performing
subcontractor.
G
All
right
on
that
on
that
subcontractor
platform,
for
example,
if
our
subcontract
rp
processes
included
things
like
awards
for
joint
venture
effort,
access
to
capital
and
actually
being
in
the
room
for
the
presentation
and
contracting
process,
it
eliminates
some
of
the
things
we
often
see
and
george
did
a
great
job
explaining
how
subcontractors
get
pushed
behind
by
changing
both
city,
ordinance
and
rp
processes
across
the
spectrum.
Then
we
actually
are
transformative
because
long
after
we
all
lead
these
roles,
we
will
see
that
the
rfps
are
anchored
in
new
process
and
policy.
G
I
think
the
last
one
was
thinking
about
economic
development
and
real
financial
barriers
to
injury.
So
how
do
you
create
joint
venture
capital
access?
Let
me
talk
about
capital
access.
You
know
I
spent
32
years
at
a
fortune,
200
company.
We
could
create
any
type
of
capital
access
we
want
because
we
have
capital.
We
want
a
minority
of
disciplines.
We
have
to
worry
about
capital,
we
can
create
accountabilities
in
the
private
sector.
G
G
In
my
opinion
system,
racism
was
a
collaborative
effort
and
so
does
the
unwinding
of
the
impact,
and
so
we
need
to
figure
out
real
new
ways
to
be
collaborative,
and
I
think
the
private
sector
has
much
more
freedom.
So
when
you
do
that
in
partnership
with
the
public,
I
think
we
get
really
big
rewards
karen.
You
want
to
add
anything
to
the
idea
around
the
the
18
big
categories.
We
identify.
K
G
G
E
J
J
Own
person,
although
both
of
you
are
really
good
guys,
your
your
family
must
be
really
proud
of.
You
had
a
question
because
this
whole
certification
piece
has
been
become
a
challenge
for
many
of
the
businesses
that
we
all
know.
We've
heard
the
stories
about.
You
know
the
wife
who's
who's
now,
the
prime,
but
it's
her
husband's
firm
and
all
this
other
stuff.
Should
you
know,
government
made
a
decision?
I
don't
know
10
12
years
ago,
not
to
be
in
the
certification
business.
J
How
do
we
create
a
certification
process
if
it's,
not
government
or
or
otherwise,
to
facilitate
this?
Because
whether
you
know
people
have
to
wait
on
the
septa
line
or
they
have
to
go
to
jersey
and
do
the
reciprocity?
You
know
how
do
how
do
we
clean
up
that
certification
process?
That's
become
a
bottleneck.
G
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
do
is
you
leverage,
so
philadelphia
has
been
of
having
great
practitioners.
One
thing
you
should
do
is
leverage
those
practitioners,
people
like
della
clark
and
jeff
hornstein,
who
are
actually
touching
and
spending
time
with
the
businesses.
They
could
become
a
great
certification
agency
that
that
we
would
utilize
and
places
like
chicago
and
others
do
this
work
right
where
they
have
a
recognized
certification
agency
within
the
city
within
the
city.
I
think
that's
where
the
opportunity
exists
and
delica
and
you
could
create
transparency
around.
G
It
also
think
transparency
around
who
people
are
right.
When
someone
is
a
newly
appointed
female
head
of
a
partner
should
be
ranger.
We
should
just
identify
that
so
that
your
your
clear
city
council
knows
are
clear
around
the
types
of
purchasing
that
are
being
made
and
you
can
create
levels
of
accountability
around
all
of
those
things,
but
I
would
say
leveraging.
The
practitioners
who
are
here
is
a
great
way
to
create
a
certification
avenue.
J
I
have
a
question
around
procurement
because
that's
a
whole
big
issue
and
again
that
that
really
depends
on
political
will
and
how
you
know
we
dictate
to
departments
fairness.
Did
you
find
in
your
work
at
aramark,
in
other
other
places,
that
some
of
the
the
scoring
that
you're,
alluding
to
you
know
giving
people
points
for
attending
the
the
session?
Giving
people
points
on
how
their
capital
stack
is
giving
people
points
for
their
partnership
was
any
of
that
stuff
legally
ever
challenged.
You
know
some
of
the
arguments.
J
Sometimes
we
hear
when
we're
having
these
procurement
discussions
and
project
management
which,
by
the
way
we
don't
have
solid
project
management
in
the
city.
That's
why
all
of
these
guys
people
get
away
with
what
they
do
were
any
of
those
procurement
reforms
ever
legally
challenged
because
they
may
have
been
looked
at
as
affirmative
action
goals.
If
we
said
you
know,
I
know
we
have
a
local
business
one,
but
every
time
we
talk
about
race
or
our
marginalized
communities,
the
legal
debate
is
you
know
you
can't
do
it.
Can
you
speak
to
that.
G
I
don't
know
karen,
you
may
be
able
to
weigh
in.
I
don't
know
that
we
saw
specific
legal
challenges.
We
did
see
legal
barriers
that
we
saw
legislation
and
or
policy
at
the
state
or
local
level
that
did
create
a
barrier.
I
don't
know-
and
we
may
have
seen
at
the
state
level-
clearly
legal
challenges,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
saw
or
recorded
specific
legal
challenges
other
than
we
recorded
barriers
to
entry
because
of
legal
issues.
K
No,
and
I
can't
speak
to
the
experience
at
aramark-
I
know
the
private
sector
generally
has
much
more
flexibility
to
do
to
innovate
around
these
programs,
and
you
know,
I
think,
realizing
as
people
pursue
change,
that
different
entities
report
upwards
to
different
federal
agencies
that
have
different
legal
standards.
So
septa
gets
money
from
d.o.t,
and
so
does
the
airport
and
they're
complying
with
their
standards
versus
the
school
district.
You
know
the
1.2
billion
inflexible
money
that
they
got
through
arpa.
K
G
I
don't
know
we
saw
a
specific,
deep,
bundling
efforts.
I
do
think
we
saw
opportunity,
so
one
of
the
opportunities
would
be.
How
do
you
leverage
pidc
for
minority
participation
when
you
have
specific
rules,
but
by
following
dollars,
you
could
see
different
functions.
So
example
is
we
propose
something
with
pidc
around
school
buildings,
because
if
those
projects
flow
to
pidc
pidc
has
more
freedom
and
how
they
might
use
those
capital
dollars
and
help
to
allocate
and
and
do
minority
participation
in
that
way.
So
that's
where
we
saw
opportunity
and
maybe
tran
leveraging
other
entities
so.
J
You
saw
pidc
again,
and
you
know
I
think
we
we
all
should
we
should
all
speak
around
the
challenges.
This
four-part
bidding
creates
a
total
disadvantage
right
at
the
school
school
district
and
turnkey
projects
at
the
school
district
have
have
become
more
efficient,
more
effective
and
and
allow
the
school
district
to
have
more
flexibility.
Are
you
saying,
because
one
of
my
concerns
with
some
of
these
discussions-
and
I
know
they're
happening-
is
we're
still
bypassing
the
problem.
Four-Part
contract
and.
G
That's
what
I
do
right,
so
I
want
to
say
this.
I
think-
and
george
raises
this
point
often
talking
about
these
short-term
things
we
do
is
vital
because
the
dollars
are
flowing.
So
what
I
can't
do
is
miss
the
opportunity
that
you
have
billions
of
dollars
flowing
into
the
city
by
infrastructure,
arp
and
access
to
capital,
but
while
you're
doing
that,
we
shouldn't
take
our
eye
off
the
long-term
things
like
you
need
to
change
the
process
at
harrisburg.
G
We
need
to
change
four-part
that
work
work
needs
to
be
done
also,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
require,
I
think,
councilwoman
more
effort
than
the
more
immediate
things
that
we
could
do.
So
I
think
we've
got
to
dribble
with
both
hands
nail,
the
short
term.
While
we
continue
to
not
take
our
eye
off
the
long-term
initiatives
that
are
there.
J
Now
I
agree
with
you,
but
I
think
you
know
we
have
to
call
the
discriminatory
racist
structural
problems.
We
gotta
call
it
out,
because
when
we
you
know-
and
I
did
one
of
the
first
turnkey
projects
in
my
district
and
got
a
lot
of
pushback
around
it,
even
though
we
had
you
know
the
first
leed
certified
school
building,
more
efficiency,
like
you
know,
built
21st
century
learning
opportunities.
J
I
think
we
got
to
call
that
stuff
out
so
that
we
can
right,
in
the
interim,
create
these
other
opportunities,
but
not
talking
about
those
structural
issues,
because
the
state
has
its
rules
and
the
feds
have
their
rules
and
they're
not
congruent.
You
know,
we
all
know
the
building
trades
have
certain
rules
at
the
state
that
are
not
required
at
the
federal
level
that
then
they
want
local
municipalities
like
philadelphia
to
follow
that
we
don't
have
to
follow.
G
And
that's
why
I
do
think
something
outside
of
city
government,
that
that
does
have
resources
right
so
nursing
and
it
does
have
resources
to
challenge
at
the
harrisburg
and
other
places
to
advocate
on
behalf
of
minority
business
development,
because
you,
you
do
need
to
deal
with
school
code.
You
need
to
deal
with
other
things,
and
so
we
we
look
at
both.
I
mean
that's
why
I
do
think
that
the
bundling
is
around
taking
apart
some
of
the
issues,
the
systemic
issues
I
said
either
inside
of
procurement
and
other
places.
G
J
E
E
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
follow-up
part
two
as
well,
but
most
importantly,
you
know-
george
talked
about
as
well
as
joanne
talked
about
and
and
y'all
are
individual
two
individuals.
I
highly
respect
that
have
been
around
right
and
really
using
your
expertise
right
now
to
make
sure
that
this
generation
gets
it
right
right,
because
we
shouldn't
be
going
10,
20,
30
years
later,
still
talking
about
the
same
issues
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
does
take
political
will.
E
It
does
take
some
sacrificing
in
terms
of
speaking
truth
for
power
and
in
some
cases,
not
even
being
in
some
cases
being
unpopular,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
you're
going
along
and
getting
along
you're
never
going
to
get
anything
done
and
what
that
comes.
Change
comes
with.
You
know,
stepping
up
and
really
making
people
feel
uncomfortable
about
how
we
need
to
change
other
than
that
you're
continuously,
seeing
the
same
thing
day
in
and
day
out,
and
so
I
just
thank
all
of
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule.
E
E
We
probably
have
more
african-american
elected
officials
in
city
council
on
a
state
level.
We
got
a
congressperson
as
well,
and
we
probably
control
just
about
every
major
government
elected
particularly
position
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
has
to
offer.
So
we
must
do
better,
and
so
I
just
again
I
thank
everybody
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
and
joining
this
dialogue.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.