The systems to build confidence in people- we cannot forget the victims in these in these cases that mother that's right, and I will never forget when I heard that mother scream- and I say that as a mother, that will forever be ingrained in my head, and I got to hug my son that evening.

But I was very clear that I'm an elected official and I still could not protect him.

But I hugged him and that's why the work of the advocates mothers in charge and others about giving a real voice to families and victims that work that they've been doing over the last 18 months, led to the other ballot question about institutionalizing in our charter. The office of victim advocate.