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A
A
work
session
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
Council,
the
first
item
on
our
work
session
agenda
today,
is
an
informational
presentation
about
demographic
in
migration,
research
from
the
Garden
of
Policy
Institute.
We
have
pamper
llyich
the
director
of
demographic
research
for
the
policy
institute
as
an
Emily
Harris
a
demographer.
So
if
you
could
join
us
in
the
table
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
both
of
you.
B
A
B
B
B
First
of
all,
if
there's
one
thing,
and
only
one
thing
that
you
remember
about
us
coming
and
visiting
with
you
today,
it's
extraordinarily
important
that
we
get
a
good
count
in
the
census.
2020
if
you
I
know
that
you
recently
hired
Haley
leak
at
the
city.
To
be
your
point
person
it's
on
census,
2020.
There
are
many
layers
of
preparation
for
the
decennial
having
to
do
with
address
lists.
B
We
have
folks
at
our
Institute,
our
colleague
Mallory
Bateman,
working
on
census
2020,
but
we
look
at
what
who
are
the
hard
to
count:
populations,
minorities,
new
Americans,
LGBTQ
people,
homeless,
people
which
city
in
the
whole
entire
state
has
the
greatest
proportion
of
those
folks
we
do
so.
We've
got
to
really
focus
anyway.
B
You
got
a
chance
to
get
updated
on
that
last
session,
but
you'll
recall
that
this
is
a
pattern
followed
by
most
major
metropolitan
areas
of
peaking
in
1960,
the
survey
suburbanization
process
and
then
the
repopulation
of
the
city,
the
repopulation
of
the
city
really
in
the
1990s
were
new
americans
and
new
populations
moving
into
existing
houses
on
the
westside
of
Salt
Lake
City,
the
new
population
growth
since
2010
has
been
new
population
moving
into
new
housing
that
you
have
all
been
watching.
These
we've
did
several
products
that
we
want
to
make
sure
you
know
about.
B
One
of
them
has
to
do
with
population
estimates
that
we
do
for
you
every
year,
based
on
building,
permit
data
down
to
census,
tract
level,
P,
population,
housing
units,
households,
group
quarters,
and
you
can
see
the
areas
of
the
city
that
have
have
gained
population
from
2010
through
2018.
This
is
work
that
we
have
done
for
you
as
a
city
and
also
just
the
basics
of
the
population,
age
distribution.
B
Where
we've
got
young
folks
on
the
bottom
and
older
folks
on
the
top
five
year,
age
groups
males
on
the
Left
females
on
the
right-
and
you
can
see
to
the
right-
the
really
over
dominant
and
domination
of
young
adults
in
the
Salt
Lake
City
population.
So
part
of
these
are
people
who
cycle
through
town
come
in,
go
to
the
University
leave,
but
now
more
and
more
their
young
professionals
moving
into
this
new
housing.
Will
they
stick?
Will
they
stay?
B
Will
they
age,
but
we
have
a
like
compared
to
the
state,
fewer
kids,
fewer
family,
age,
people
and
fewer
elders,
and
this
really
large,
just
a
large
young
population,
was
so
not
only
a
city
of
renter's.
Now
we're
a
city
of
young
adults.
Our
diverse
populations
continue
to
increase
over
time.
We
obviously
I
know
you
know
we
have
large
swathes
of
the
city,
particularly
the
west
side
of
the
city,
that
is
minority
majority.
If
we
look
at
the
changes
in
the
minority
share
of
the
population,
just
this
is
looking
at
this
change.
B
Atlas
right
here,
based
on
ACS
data,
caveat.
We
are
a
long
ways
off
from
our
last
real
count
of
people
in
2010,
so
we'll
get
a
much
better
picture
once
we
get
a
good
enumeration
in
2020
coming
up
very
soon,
but
big
takeaway
for
you
here
is
declines
in
minority
populations
in
district
5
and
increases
in
district
6.
We
look
at
Hispanic
populations
and
we
see
declines
and
those
populations
that
we
think
what
we
were
just
talking
with
ana
priorly
at
the
Councilwoman
prior
to
the
meeting.
B
We
when
we're
looking
at
at
the
participation
and
estimates
of
her
Hispanic
populations
and
some
of
our
new
American
populations.
We
don't
know
whether
people
are
actually
answering
these
surveys
or
if
they
are,
if
they're
so
afraid
that
they're
saying
you
know
I'm
here
but
I'm
not
going
to
tell
about
the
other
four
or
five
people
who
were
living
with
me
or
whether
it's
actually
gentrification
and
housing
prices
that
are
pushing
people
out.
But
we
do
see
this
particularly
on
the
world.
D
Pam,
that's
really
fascinating.
No
I
heard
you
right
decline
in
district
5
increase
in
district
6,
and
it
would
seem
like
if
it
were,
you
know
the
national
climate
and
the
hostility
and
the
fear
that
that
places
on
so
many
populations
that
we
would
see
declines
across
the
city.
If
that
were
influencing
it,
not
necessarily
an
increase.
Well.
B
B
B
This
picture
is
for
all
minorities,
of
which
Hispanics
are
part,
but
also
Asians,
blacks,
Native,
Hawaiian,
Pacific,
Islanders,
Native,
Alaskan,
Native
American.
So
that's
what
this
picture
shows
you,
but
just
I
was.
It
was
just
an
aside
that
we
had
spoken
prior
to
the
meeting
where
we're
really
focusing
on
Hispanics,
so
we're
seeing
increasing
I
mean
we're
actually
seeing
increases
in
Hispanics,
but
a
rearrangement
of
them
geographically,
but
we're
really
seeing
the
new
people
come
or
Asians,
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
change
in
the
composition
of
the
economy
and
prices
of
housing.
B
But
again
the
mosaic
is
a
little
blurry.
We
need
that
20/20
data
anyway,
to
wrap
up
just
want
to
remind
you
that
we
are
your
demographic
team.
This
is
on
our
website
at
the
Gardner
Policy
Institute.
You
look
at
the
bottom
line.
There
we
have
a
census,
2000
Atlas,
we
began
there.
We
did
a
change
Atlas
from
2000
to
2010.
We
have
a
2010
atlas
and
then,
since
we've
been
able
to
guys,
as
we've
been
in
the
gardener,
Policy
Institute,
we
do
as
we
do
one
of
these
one
of
these
beautiful
atlases.
B
For
you
every
year,
one
year,
we'll
do
the
cross
section
and
say
this
is
the
picture
with
the
new
data
and
the
next
year
we
do
changes.
This
is
a
change
Atlas
that
shows
you
how
the
neighborhood's
have
changed
across
time.
You'll
also
see
we
have
a
housing
component
that
we've
been
funding
out
of
this
appropriation
that
you've
given
to
us.
B
You
heard
from
the
housing
team
last
week
so
that
last
year's
was
on
the
apartment
boom
and
then
we
have
a
dedicated
staff,
who
does
the
new
population
estimates
every
year
based
on
building
permit
data
and
an
additional
recurring
product?
This
is
for
your
EEO
compliance
and
it's
a
change
in
the
race
and
ethnic
composition
of
the
labor
force
and
the
Greater
Metro
Wasatch
Front
metropolitan
area,
which
is
this,
could
actually
be
used
by
any
governmental.
You
never
meant
that
is
we're.
E
C
This
water
hey!
So
let's
talk
about
migration,
so
we
just
came
out
with
a
paper.
You
all
got
a
copy
of
the
brief.
It's
quite
lengthy,
cuz,
there's
just
so
much
to
talk
about,
but
I'm
just
gonna
try
to
break
it
down
just
in
a
general
picture
about
the
state
in
Salt,
Lake
County.
And
then,
if
you
guys
have
more
specific
questions,
please
just
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
ask
so
migration.
It's
just
the
movement
of
people
from
one
place
to
another
and
that
can
vary
by
geography.
C
So
when
people
say
migration,
some
people
immediately
think
international.
Some
people
think
across
state
lines
we
focus
law
on
county
to
county
migration.
It's
one
of
the
main
demographic
forces
that
impacts
population
change.
So
we
have
births,
we
have
deaths,
and
then
we
have
the
movement
of
people,
so
people
move
in
and
they
move
out
and
migration
in
particular
is
super
volatile.
C
This
we
focus
mostly
on
net
migration,
which
is
basically
the
difference
between
the
number
of
people
moving
in
and
the
number
of
people
moving
out.
So
if
you
have
more
people
moving
in
than
moving
out,
you
have
net
in
migration.
If
there
are
more
people
that
are
leaving
than
are
coming
in,
you
have
net
out-migration.
So
this
is
just
a
map
showing
where
young
adults
are
moving.
C
This
came
out
of
Brookings
and
you
can
see
really
a
lot
of
people
are
moving.
The
blue
is
net
in
migration,
so
you
see
a
lot
of
people
moving
into
the
west
and
the
south,
and
a
lot
of
people
are
leaving
the
East,
Coast
and
Midwest,
and
you
can
see
Salt
Lake
City
on.
There
is
a
hub
of
net
in
migration
for
young
adults,
so
Utah
specific
one
in
six
Tetons
change
residences
over
the
last
year,
according
to
ACS
data
Utah
is
rapidly
growing.
We
all
know
that,
and
migrations
impact
really
varies.
C
So
you
can
see
on
this
figure.
We
have
components
of
change,
so
the
gray
is
net
migration.
The
red
is
natural
increase,
so
births
minus
deaths,
Utah
has
really
high
fertility,
so
natural
increase
is
always
pretty
high.
You
can
see
natural
increase
over
time,
there's
a
slope
going
up
and
then
it
starts
going
down,
but
net
migration
is
all
over
the
place
and
really
what
you
can
see
here
is
that
you
have
recessions
people
leave
or
just
stop
moving
at
all.
C
You
have
kind
of
the
build-up
to
the
Great
Recession
around
2004
or
five
and
six,
and
then
it
just
crashes.
People
just
stopped
moving
completely
and
really
in
the
last
few
years.
We've
had
a
lot
of
people
moving
in
to
the
state.
It's
been
pretty
consistently
in
the
mid
20
thousands
and
that's
significant
growth.
So
our
paper
focuses
on
Utah's
migration
history
over
the
last
50
years
and
then
we
look
at
the
county
picture
and
how
does
that
vary
by
age,
because
it's
one
thing
to
know
how
many
people
are
moving
in.
C
But
what
is
it?
The
makeup
of
the
people
that
are
moving
in,
so
we
look
at
age,
specific
migration
rates
for
all
the
different
counties
and
over
time.
So
this
graph
has
a
lot
of
lines
on
it.
This
is
the
net
migration
rates
for
Utah,
going
back
50
years.
So
on
the
bottom
we
have
five
year
age
categories
and
on
the
left
we
have
a
net
migration
rate,
so
you
see
a
dotted
line
along
0.
So
if
you
see
a
line
below
zero,
that
means
net
out-migration
for
that
age
group.
C
So
you
can
see
pretty
consistently
in
that
giant
peak.
That's
Utah's,
20
to
24
age
group
in
a
real.
What
we
can
see
along
here
is
the
gold
lines.
The
dotted
lines
are
before
1970.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
transportation
coming
in
and
out
of
Utah.
The
economy
was
really
specialized,
really
susceptible
to
booms
and
busts
and
then
once
1970
hit,
which
is
the
bright
red
line,
just
Utah
kind
of
changed,
the
West
kind
of
changed.
C
You
had
technological
innovations,
completion
of
highway
systems,
they're
really
really
aided
a
lot
of
the
transportation
and
movement
of
people
and
goods
1980s
the
dark
red
line.
There
was
a
big
recession
there,
that's
the
only
decade
in
the
last
50
years,
where
we
had
only
natural
increase
as
our
component
of
growth,
and
then
the
black
line
is
where
we
are
currently
today.
C
So
what
we
did
was
we
have
all
of
that
data
for
all
of
the
counties.
So
we
decided
to
create
county
topologies
based
on
migration
and
also
economic
conditions,
because
the
economy
and
migration
are
so
intertwined.
They
really
have
a
reciprocal
relationship.
So
you
can
see
here
we
created
topologies
based
on.
We
have
coal
countries,
so
it's
carbon
at
Emory,
County,
College
counties,
iron,
San,
Pete
cash,
oil
and
gas.
C
So
the
typology
we
created
large
metro
is
basically
just
Salt
Lake
County,
because
really
there's
no
other
County
like
Salt
Lake
in
Utah.
It's
the
economic
hub
of
the
state
and
really
it
has
net
in
migration
for
about
15
to
19
year-olds
through
30
to
34
and
then
net
out-migration
for
almost
every
other
age
group.
So
that's
great!
So
if
you
look
at
the
population
pyramid,
you
can
see
for
Salt
Lake
County.
You
see
the
wide
waste
which
is
the
young
adult
working
age.
A
lot
of
people
maybe
come
here
for
university
and
they
stay.
C
And
then
you
have
more
people
moving
in
of
that
age
group.
But
then
you
can
really
see
kind
of
around
those.
You
have
less
people
whether
that's
kind
of
in
the
teenage
years,
then
also
kind
of
in
the
older
adult
ages,
and
a
lot
of
that
just
has
to
do
with
amenities
right
what
young
people
want,
what
they
want
to
be
around
and
really
what
we're
finding,
especially
with
this
data,
is,
if
you
look
at
what
we
call
the
ring
counties
these
are,
you
know
the
county
is
surrounding
Salt
Lake
County.
C
Basically,
so
we
have
boxelder
Davis,
Tooele,
Wasatch
Morgan.
You
see
that
their
signature
migration
is
basically
the
opposite
of
Salt
Lake
County.
They
basically
have
family
aged
people
moving
in
and
what
we
think
is
happening
is
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
out
of
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
moving
into
these
other
areas.
Once
they
start,
families
get
a
little
bit
older,
cheaper
housing,
better
education,
more
family
friendly
environment
and
that's
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
but
there
are
just
different
local
conditions
that
counties
have
that
attract
different
kinds
of
people.
C
So
then,
if
you
break
down
looking
at
all
of
the
counties
net
migration
rates
for
these
different
age
groups,
it's
kind
of
helpful
to
see
a
county,
a
state-level
picture,
so
we
created
a
life
stage-
migration
age
group.
So
we
have
emerging
adults
which
is
15
to
24.
It's
usually
about
college
age.
Coming
out
of
you
know
their
family
house
kind
of
starting
an
independent
household
college
work,
whatever
young
adults
25
to
29,
that's
basically
coming
out
of
college
and
getting
their
first
job
family
age.
C
You
know,
we
see,
parents,
you
know
ages,
30
to
49
and
then
their
children
who
move
with
them
ages,
5
to
14
and
then
older
adults.
So
this
is
just
a
map
of
the
young
adult
and
that
migration
rates
across
the
entire,
so
we
can
really
see
is
most
counties
are
exporting
their
young
adults
and
they're,
sending
them
to
a
select
few
Canon.
C
So
you
have
Utah
County,
you
know,
there's
the
Missionary
Training
Center,
there's
BYU,
there's
UVU
Salt
Lake
County's
next,
in
terms
of
the
highest
net
and
migration
rate
for
that
age
group
and
then
Washington,
County
and
Weber
are
also
pretty
close.
What's
interesting
is
if
you
look
at
the
migration
for
family
age,
it's
basically
the
exact
opposite.
Most
counties
are
attracting
a
lot
of
family
age
people,
except
for
Salt
Lake
in
Cache.
Those
are
the
only
two
counties
in
the
state.
According
to
this
data
that
are
having
a
net
out-migration
of
that
age
group.
D
C
Necessarily
so
I
actually
have
this
slide
here.
So
these
are
we
put
these
profiles
together
at
the
end
of
the
document,
but
for
Salt
Lake
County
I
mean
you
can
really
see.
They've
always
been
an
attraction
for
young
working
adults
you
can.
The
black
line
is
always
going
to
be
2000
to
2010,
so
it
really
hasn't
changed
too
much,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
you
know
way
early
on,
maybe
up
to
1970
or
1980.
You
were
getting
low,
but
still
net
in
migration
of
other
age
groups,
but
really
over
the
last
couple
decades.
C
It's
been
pretty
consistent,
there's
just
been
more
development
and
more
areas.
You
know
people
first
started
moving
north
and
now
people
are
starting
to
move
south
and
instead
and
now
at
this
point,
there's
just
kind
of
a
saturation
in
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
people
are
just
finding
other
places
to
move.
C
Did
that
answer
your
question?
Okay,
so
why
does
it
matter?
Basic
Utah,
demographic
history
and
literacy
is
important.
It's
important
to
understand
the
changes
that
are
not
only
happening
over
the
last
decade,
but
in
the
last
few
decades.
Is
this
something
that's
always
been
happening?
Is
there
you
know
maybe
some
kind
of
event
that
triggered
something
that
brought
a
lot
of
people
in
or
have
started
to
export
people.
C
So
it's
important
to
think
critically
about
that
and
it's
it's
important
to
understand
migration,
motivations
and
the
impacts
it
has,
because
it's
important
for
planning
people
make
many
decisions
and
why
they
move
and
most
places
can
look
at
their
local
environment
and
talk
to
their
constituents
and
find
find
the
reasons
why
people
decide
to
stay
or
decide
to
leave
so
yeah
counties
can
to
an
extent,
keep
or
change
these
patterns
if
they
want,
and
so
there
are
definitely
certain
benefits
and
drawbacks
of
having
you
know
certain
age
groups
stockpiled
into
an
area
Washington
County
is
a
really
interesting
example.
C
C
So
it's
interesting
to
see
how
certain
counties
are
able
to
target
different
policies
and
change
if
they
want
to,
and
so
this
was
one
of
migration
paper
that
we've
done
and
we
are
anticipating
doing
a
couple
more
next,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
characteristics
of
Utah
migrants,
so
age,
sex,
race,
educational
attainment,
labor
force
participation.
What
do
the
people
who
are
moving
here
really
look
like
and
and
we
want
to
look
at
origins
and
destinations?
C
So
where
are
people
coming
from
in
what
ages
are
they
and
then
we're
also
people
who
were
deciding
to
leave
Utah?
Where
are
they
going?
So
that's
that's.
What
we
have
in
a
nutshell
for
migration
tried
to
keep
it
brief,
and
then
this
is
just
a
table.
Summarizing
kind
of
the
life
saved
my
life
stage,
migration
and
how
that
compares
with
the
county,
typology,
z--
and
basically,
who
they
migrate
in
and
out
for
their
different
age
groups.
D
Emily,
will
you
go
back
to
that
last
slide?
Actually,
yes,
not
that
one
yeah
that
one
and
looking
at
the
the
life
stage,
migration,
I,
guess
I'm
wondering
if
your
research
gives
indications
of
the
driving
factors
that
move
people
and
I
know
education
with
that
certain
emerging
adult
or
young
adult
stage
is
an
obvious
one,
but
aside
from
that
age,
demographic,
what
is
moving
people
when
we
are
in
a
stable
economy,
as
we
have
been
for
several
years,
is
it?
Is
it
home
size
and
if
and
additions
of
children?
D
C
There's
a
lot
of
literature
that
looks
at
if
you
look
at
these
different
life
stages.
You
know
all
of
those
things
right.
No
one
makes
a
decision
based
on
well,
a
lot
of
people
don't
make
a
decision
based
on
one
thing.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
things
that
go
into
those
decisions
so
like
for
a
retirement
age
person,
for
example,
you
know
favorable
tax
policies,
a
lot
of
people
like
to
move
somewhere,
that's
warmer.
They
want
to
move
some
worth
favorable
climate,
where
there's
amenities
for
their
local
population.
C
B
And
then,
then,
of
course,
there's
the
cultural
element-
people
there
are
cultural
enclaves.
Of
course
we
know
here
in
Utah
we
have
Mormon
enclaves
and
we
certainly
see
that
in
our
data
places
in
the
county
that
have
very
large
household
sizes
like
in
West,
Valley,
City
and
Kern's,
and
then
in
the
southwest
part
of
the
valley
are
either
ethnic
enclaves
of
the
Mormon
type
of
ethnic
Enclave
or
of
international
new
American
enclaves.
So
that's
a
factor
too
and
where
people
move
and
then
there's
this
the
life
course
migration.
B
You
know
people
who
are
here
on
business
with
the
university
or
corporate
or
whatever,
so
when
we
we've
talked
about
only
just
actually
a
fraction
of
the
people
in
the
city,
but
if
we
look
at
Salt
Lake
City
and
its
role
within
this
larger
regional
economy,
all
of
this
new
housing
that's
going
in
and
attracting
young
adults.
This
is
really.
This
is
what
happens
in
big
cities
right
they
densify
they
change.
C
This
is
not
unique
to
Salt
Lake
any
metropolitan
area.
Pretty
much
has
this
exact
same
issue.
You
have
the
economic
core
where
people
are
moving
in
and
having
jobs,
and
a
lot
of
them
choose
to
stay
in
this
State,
but
they'll
move
to
the
suburbs.
The
suburbanization
is
not
unique
to
Salt
Lake.
It's
just
that
Salt
Lake
is
now
becoming
more
of
a
metro
area
than
it
has
been
in
the
past,
and
now
it's
gonna
be
really
interesting
to
see
with
the
next
decennial
census
how
this
migration
pattern
changes.
B
That's
this
typology
large
metropolitan
County
that
we
put
Salt
Lake
County
in
it.
We
learned
from
the
literature-
and
there
are
many
other
areas
where
there's
a
large
metro
colony
and
what
you
see
in
that
migration.
Those
decade
old
migration
rates
that
Emily
was
showing
you
is
that
this
is
intensifying.
E
C
B
The
retirement
migration
is
becoming
more
of
an
issue
and
part
of
it.
I
think
is
this
return
migration,
where
people
had
to
move
off
and
now
they're,
not
working
anymore,
and
they
can
move
back
home
from
some
of
the
big
families
that
we
have
here.
But
you
can
see
the
uptick.
If
you
look
at
the
picture
on
page
29
and
Emily,
had
it
up
here,
there's
an
upward
slope
in
the
older
age
groups.
So
I
think
we
can
anticipate
more
retirement
migration
in
Utah
and
in
Salt
Lake
County
went
in
in
the
my
prediction:
yeah.
C
And
if
you
think
about
the
cohorts,
the
big
cohorts
right
now,
the
baby
boomers
and
the
Millennials
they're
both
out
that
they're,
both
overloading
those
two
age
groups
a
lot
and
that's.
Why
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
the
young
emerging
adult
population
just
moving
around
in
general
and
the
same
thing
with
the
retirement
age
population?
There's
just
simply
more
people
that
are
in
that
age
group.
At
this
point
right
now,
but.
E
F
You
this
is
a
little
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
the
migration
study
you're
presenting
to
us
today,
but
I'm
interested
in
the
demographics
of
folks
in
the
city.
Age
is
a
big
piece.
Obviously,
if
you
project
an
in
migration
of
folks
over
the
age
of
55
or
60,
that'll,
be
a
huge
policy
implication
for
us,
which
so
there's
number
one
I'm
not
for
just
for
the
county,
but
for
the
city
itself,
for
the
housing,
and
so
our
parks.
F
B
F
F
B
F
I
I
think
about
the
size
of
the
housing
unit,
size
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
I
also
think
about
our
infrastructure,
about
our
sidewalks
and
our
streets
and
our
parks,
and
if
we
have
more
pets
than
kids,
we're
still
building
things
for
a
certain
type
of
household
and
there
could
be
a
lot
of
change
coming
in
how
we
build
our
our
physical
infrastructure
in
the
city
to
reflect
the
needs
of
who's
living
here.
Who
will
be
living
here
the
years
to
come?
So
I
don't
have
the
answer
yet,
but
that's
been
on
my
mind.
B
B
D
B
F
B
G
E
The
last
one
now
that
I
ruined
it
for
you.
Thank
you,
yeah
I,
remember
my
question:
can
you
this
slide
that
you
showed
us
with
the
racial
migration
during
your
part
of
the
presentation?
First
for
and
I
think
you
broke
it
down
by
by
community
council
district.
Do
we
have
a
copy
of
that
somewhere?
Yes,.
B
Great
and
if
you
can't
find
us
call
us
our
big
message
to
you
today
is
we:
are
your
demographers
use
us
so,
as
we
were
talking
before
the
session
today,
you're
required
to
know
this
much
about
this
much.
So
if
you
find
an
area
that
you
need
more
on
call
us
we're
here
for
you,
we
would
love
to
help.
You
dig
data
and
do
intensive
studies
of
different
areas
of
topics
we
want
to
help.
You
yeah
mr.
B
So
it's
not
like.
We
know
the
future
we're
creating
the
future.
We
do
our
projections
at
a
county
level.
When
you
look
at
how
that
population
gets
distributed
to
sub
county.
We
work
with
your
metropolitan
planning
agencies
which
are
such
different
regional
council
for
us,
but
hopefully,
you've
got
I,
don't
know
who
you've
got
community
in
your
community
and
economic
development,
people
working
with
them
and
with
like
Scott,
festa
and
Andrew
Gruber,
when
those
projections
are
being
developed,
hopefully,
hopefully,
yeah
yeah,
Burt,.
C
B
E
B
The
data
is
very
sparse
yeah,
this
one
II,
ten
census
I
think
will
be
our
first
look.
Okay,
where
people
will
not
be
fearful
to
say
yes,
I
am
married
to
a
woman
and
we
are
family
for
the
first
time
and
since
1790
that
this
is
even
possible.
So
you
know
there
are
bright
spots,
yes,
mm-hmm!
Thank
you!
Yes!
B
H
B
Could
but
not
be
married,
but
could
be
a
same-sex
domestic
partner,
so
they're
in
there,
but
as
far
as
orientation
or
identity
I
mean
there's
still
just
the
binary
male-female
right
in
2020.
We
can
then
now
in
this
one
two
people
at
the
same
gender
who
are
married
can
say:
I
am
married
to
a
woman
and
we
will
not
be
considered
roommates.
For
the
first
time
ever
we
will
be
considered
family.
B
C
D
This
is
such
a
revolutionary
time
for
the
Census,
and
everyone
in
the
country
is
going
to
be
doing
this
work.
At
the
same
time,
we
don't
have
the
advantage
of
looking
at
necessarily
what
other
cities
are
doing
in
order
to
really
engage
the
populations
that
we
know
are
difficult
to
reach
and
count
in
the
census.
But,
notwithstanding
do
you
have
advice,
or
are
you
in
contact
with
Haley
who
the
city
is
hired
to
do
more
of
that
engagement
work
so
that
we
can
do
the
very
best
we
possibly
can
in
engaging
these
demographics?
D
B
You
know
it
basically
boils
down
to
finding
the
people
who
are
hard
to
count
finding
ways.
You
know
you
can
answer
online.
You
can
answer
by
phone,
you
can
answer
by
paper,
you
can
answer
in
community
centers
finding
and
then
finding
people
within
the
communities
to
say
look.
This
is
important
that
you
answer
you're
safe,
your
individual
identities
not
going
to
be
disclosed.
So
it's
a
lot
about
all
your
community
connections
and
getting
people
within
the
communities
to
who
are
leaders
basically
vouch
for
the
process
and
say
this
is
important.
B
G
B
G
B
A
B
B
A
Our
next
item
is
an
ordinance
which
is
a
zoning
map.
Amendment
at
1937,
south
1200,
east
nichts
Arbit,
will
introduce
this
from
the
council
office.
Their
policy
analyst
and
chris
lee
is
the
principal
planner
as
well
as
john
anderson
who's
our
plan
manager.
They
will
be
joining
us
at
the
table
momentarily.
E
J
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
This
is
the
zoning
a
map
amendment
which
is
being
sought
from
RM
F
35
to
RM,
f,
45
and
1937
south
1200
east.
The
applicant
owns
the
adjacent
parcel
to
the
south
of
this
one,
and
it
is
currently
zoned
RM,
f,
45
and
the
petitioner
is
requesting
the
change
to
facilitate
consolidation
of
the
two
parcels
and
then
to
do
development
on
both
of
them
and
with
this
staff
recommended
approval,
but
the
Planning
Commission
forward
and
negative
recommendation.
J
This
is
another
view
of
the
area.
This
is
looking
down:
1200
east,
towards
the
north.
From
about
2100
south,
you
can
see
the
existing
development
pattern.
There
has
a
lot
of
multifamily
housing,
multifamily
buildings
and
the
specific
parcel
is
highlighted
in
red
there
on
the
left.
The
graphic
on
the
right
shows
the
density
of
the
different
housing
projects
already
exists
there,
the
multifamily
housing
excuse
me
and
it
is
designated
in
units
per
acre.
A
J
It
came
down
to
from
what
you
know
from
what
I
observed
they
were
really
set
on
the
dividing
line
that
was
there.
You
know
just
that
it
was
established
in
the
master
plan,
follows
what's
here:
yeah
division
between
those
areas
right
there
and
then
also
there
was
a
lot
of
talk.
I
mean
overall,
the
proposed
design
was
well
received,
sound
like
we're,
okay,
with
people
being
there,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
pushback
against
cars,
automobiles,
having
more
parking
parking
issues
that
kind
of
thing.
K
This
is
kind
of
an
hour
older
master
plans
where
we
had
a
clear
future
land
use
map
that
had
a
line
that
separates
this
parcel.
Is
this
and
this
parcels
that
you
know
we've
kind
of
gone
away
from
doing
that,
hopefully,
to
look
at
something
look
at
a
more
area
wise
and
looking
at
it
a
little
more
holistically,
but
they
felt
that
that
line
was
put
there
purposely
and.
J
Based
on
the
densities
that
are
proposed,
you
know
what
the
sugarhouse
master
plan
says
right
now.
I
believe
that
RMF
45
does
qualify
for
the
density
that
is
proposed,
but
you
can
look
at
it
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
in
the
in
the
staff
report.
If
you're
interested
in
that-
and
then
this
specifically
shows
the
subject
parcel
it's
that
little
blue
house
is
1937
style,
1200,
East
and
then
the
one
right.
Next
to
it.
This
is
1961
south
1200
east,
and
this
is
the
parcel
that
is
currently
owned
by
the
applicant.
J
It
is
overflow
parking
for
the
Irving
Heights
apartment
building,
which
you
see
right
there
in
the
first
photograph,
and
so
they
would
like
to
knock
down
that
house.
Get
rid
of
those
car
ports
consolidate
those
parcels
and
then
do
family
development
on
the
on
the
resulting
parcel
and
then,
as
far
as
zoning
standard
differences
go
with
RMF
35,
the
maximum
height
is
35
feet.
Setbacks
would
be
20
feet
for
the
front
yard
20%
of
the
lot
depth
not
to
exceed
20
feet
for
the
rear
yard
and
then
10
feet
for
side
yards
are
about.
J
J
If
these
were
consolidators
are
about
35
parcels,
you
could
have
a
maximum
amount
of
10
units
on
the
consolidated
parcel,
whereas
if
it
was
RMF
45,
you
would
have
19
units
and
the
applicant
has
stated
that
the
reason
they
are
seeking
RMF
45
is
simply
for
the
additional
density.
They
don't
want
to
go
up
to
45
feet
in
height.
They
only
want
to
do
35
feet
in
height
and
they
will
they've
got
some
slides
where
they
can
show
a
little
bit
more
about
what
they're
proposing
also
overview.
J
A
J
A
E
L
E
L
What
the
positive
and
negatives
were
and
they're
sort
of,
at
least
in
the
bullet
points
we
have
in
our
staff
report,
I
mean
somewhat
even
of
what
you
would
think
of
people
being
on
the
fence
about
something
like
this
I
haven't
that
I
am
aware
of
I
haven't
received
any
emails
on
this
either
way.
Honestly.
F
I
have
a
question
related
to
the
difference
between
the
staff
recommendation.
The
Planning
Commission
negative
vote
on
this.
One
of
the
things
you
said
was:
we've
moved
a
little
bit
away
from
hard
lines,
differentiating
different
zoning
types,
essentially
to
tell
me
sort
of
where
you
moved
to,
and
how
does
that?
Look
because,
if
that's
part
of
the
core
issue
here,
I
understand
that
piece
a
little
more
well.
K
For
example,
if
you
take
the
West
the
West,
our
master
plan,
it,
it
has
a
future
land
use
map.
But
it's
tall,
it's
focusing
on
like
notes,
and
this
would
be
a
regional
node
or
a
commercial
zone
or
those
sorts
of
things.
So
when,
in
our
past
plans,
that's
not
how
we
had
read
them,
so
I
think
that
it
is
our
job
as
planners
to
know
that
the
neighborhood's
are
changing
and
evolving
and
that
you
know
hard
fast
line,
isn't
always
going
to
be
the
right
way
to
look
at
something.
K
So
it's
hard
to
compare
the
two,
because
they
were
study
differently,
select
the
west
side,
where
it's
looking
for
it
knows
that
these
that
had
the
hard
fast
time
but
I
think
it's
always
important
for
us
to
be
looking
at
a
neighborhood
as
a
whole
and
not
just
focused
on
a
line
here
or
a
line.
There.
K
F
The
more
detailed
question
would
be,
and
you
guys
it's
a
little
different,
because
you
already
have
quite
a
high
density,
you're
moving
and
shifting
towards
a
lower
density
area.
I'm
answering
the
the
residents
per
acre
is
similar,
but
the
height
might
be
very
different
in
some
ways
here,
so
I
understand
sort
of
how
you
would
move.
How
would
you
do
that
essentially
right?
How
do
you
transition
both
in
height
and
density
and
more
a
clear
way
other
than
just
a
line
so
I
understand
it?
It.
K
Think
you're
right
in
the
same,
because
zoning
does
work
with
lines,
so
we
will
have
that
zoning
line
somewhere.
It's
just
I
think
that
when
we
want
to
look
at
a
project
and
request,
we
do
need
to
be.
It
would
be
very
easy
for
us
to
sort
of
master
plan
to
say
the
lines
here.
Let's
not
even
consider
it,
but
I
think
that
we
wanted
to
look
and
see
how
was
the
neighborhood
changed
and
evolved,
and
where
are
we
and
considering
new
city
policies
that
have
been
adopted
by
the
council?
Since
this
plan
was
adopted,.
G
M
M
So
I've
been
around
sugarhouse
my
whole
life
and
raised
my
family
on
Douglas
Street.
Now
we're
still
living
just
a
little
bit
east
of
there,
but
I
think
lower
Singh
and
sugar
houses
we're
getting
more
and
more
dense,
and
so
my
appeal
tonight
is
essentially,
let's
keep
density
in
areas
that
are
designed
for
density,
where
the
others,
the
amenities
and
the
neighborhoods
the
support
density.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
to
to
take
an
area,
that's
hot,
dense
and
just
use
it
for
more
density,
rather
than
looking
at
other
places
and
putting
homes
and
different.
M
G
M
So
so
I
guess
what
we'd
call
this
is
affordable,
but
that
by
design,
so
we
have
a
mix
of
units.
We
have
studios
one
bedrooms
and
two
bedrooms
with
the
total
of
eighteen
units
and
our
goal:
TV
a
little
feedback
we
did
meet
with
Judy
short
and
the
Community
Council
and
Planning
Commission.
What
we
heard
from
them
is
one:
can
we
do
some
affordability,
so
our
goal
was
to
make
affordable
by
design.
So
instead
of
doing
12
townhomes
here
we're
doing
some
studio
units,
one
bedroom
did
two
bedrooms.
M
The
other
element
they
talked
about
was
Park,
which
we
can
get
into
a
little
bit
later,
but
currently
well
I'll
mention
this
we're
required
to
have
21
stalls
on-site.
We
have
32
stalls
on-site
because
we
were
listening
to
what
they
said
and
tried
to
redesign
it
based
on
that
feedback.
As
far
as
a
loan
goes,
we
will
be
taking
out
a
construction
loan
happy
to
look
at
a
Salt,
Lake,
City
or
some
type
of
loan
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
programs
enough
at
this
point.
To
speak
to
that.
Thank.
A
M
Just
mention
this
line
under
current
zoning
requirements.
We
can
build
this
building
here,
which
would
be
a
45
foot,
building
on
one
lot
and
a
thirty-five
building
on
the
other
lot.
So
that's
what
can
be
done.
We
feel
like
this
building
activates
the
street
better.
We
pull
the
parking
to
the
back
side
and
really
just
makes
that
streetscape
along
1200
East,
better
and.
I
Design
wise
the
goal
is
to
break
down
the
mass,
so
it's
not
one
big
apartment
building
as
two
separate
structures
and
it's
kind
of
designed
almost
to
look
like
townhouses,
like
smaller
units,
sort
of
vertical
oriented
material
transitions,
and
so
we've
really
tried
to
transition
from
the
Irving
Heights
building,
which
is
a
tall
tower
to
single-family
residential,
and
hopefully
this
is
accomplishing
that
that's.
That
was
the
intent.
A
L
So,
just
by
going
up,
you
know
allowing
that
ten
more
feet,
we
add
we
almost
double
and
in
fact,
I
think
you
could
maximum
go
up
a
little
bit
more
right
under
the
zoning
ordinance.
But
just
the
way
this
is
laid
out,
I
mean
we
almost
double
the
density
in
just
a
little
bit
more
feet
right
and
so
I.
For
me,
I
I
think
this
is
great.
I
think
it
is
a
good
transition
and
to
Andrews
point
that
somewhere
there
has
to
be
a
line
saying
this
is
how
zoning
works
right,
I,
guess
I!
L
Guess
there
has
to
be
a
line.
I
mean
some
places.
There
isn't
a
line
Minneapolis
right,
but
we
currently
operate
under
having
a
line
somewhere
and
I.
Think
that
this
is
a
nice
transition
from
in
into
that
other
single-family
area
right
and
and
allows
the
density,
but
hopefully,
in
such
a
way,
I
know
it's
not
a
home
ownership
project,
but
in
such
a
way
that
it
feels
as
if
it
is
right
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
neighborhood
worry
is
if
it's
just
renters
coming
in
and
out.
D
I
think
the
the
bubble
popped
a
long
time
ago
on
this
block,
even
by
itself
and
the
color-coded
zoning
map
that
our
planners
had
up
before
allude
to
that.
But
I
always
like
to
go
to
the
Google
satellite
image
and
when
you
stroll
up
the
street
on
Google,
you
see
that
there's
what
two
or
three
houses
north
and
then
there's
another
apartment
complex
and
it
looks
like
it's
one-
that's
been
there
for
decades
and
then
right
behind
it.
There's
some
more.
D
F
M
L
E
M
A
A
A
Yeah
well
we're
set
to
accept
public
comment
on
the
12th
of
November.
What
tentative
council
action
on
November
19th.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
ordinance
budget.
Amendment
number
1
for
fiscal
year,
2019
and
20,
and
it's
follow-up
discussion
been
let
Keith
from
the
council
office.
He's
our
policy
analyst
we'll
introduce
this
item
and
then
Mary
Beth
Thompson,
our
chief
financial,
at
city's
chief
financial
officer
and
John
Pike.
The
city
budget
director
will
also
join
us
at
the
table.
N
N
The
first
update
is
related
to
item
a2,
the
open
space
property
purchase.
When
the
item
was
last
before
the
council,
the
requested
impact
fee
funding
using
parks
was
not
available.
Three
million
was
requested.
Less
than
three
million
was
available
since
then,
updated
numbers
have
come
in
with
additional
revenue
and
it's
3.7
million
in
parks
impact
visas
available.
The
council
previously
contemplated
using
1
million
from
the
surplus
Land
Fund
2
million
in
parks,
impact
fees
and
1
million
from
public
utilities
stormwater
riparian
corridor.
A
N
The
other
update
is
related
to
item
a3,
the
school
crossing
guards
moving
to
a
contract
approach.
The
winning
bidder
from
the
rfp
back
in
april
has
agreed
to
maintain,
maintain
the
same
pricing
beyond
the
90-day
period
that
was
originally
agreed.
So
if
the
council
funds
this
item,
it
will
not
need
to
go
through
a
second
RFP
which
will
result
in
a
faster
implementation
right,
there's
also
a
policy
question
to
policy
questions.
There
are
90
school
crossings
that
do
not
currently
have
crossing
guards.
The
council
expressed
interest
in
adding
additional
guards
so
question
1.
N
Does
the
council
want
to
add
funding
beyond
the
110,000
that
is
currently
requested
by
the
administration?
I
know
50,000
was
previously
mentioned.
That
would
likely
add
several
locations
with
crossing
guards.
Alternatively,
and/or
the
council
could
ask
the
administration
to
provide
a
report
on
the
prioritization
and
costs
for
those
90
locations
that
don't
have
crossing
guards
so.
A
Question
that
I
have
have.
We
talked
to
the
winning
to
the
vendor
about
the
addition
of
those
additional
crossing
guards.
Do
they
have
the
capacity
currently
to
to
bring
new
people
on,
and
if
so,
would
that
be
done
at
the
same
cost
or
the
same
pricing
that
we're
currently
paying
for
I
do
not
know
the
answer
to
that
Cindy
I
think.
H
A
A
So
to
throw
an
idea
out
there,
then
so
we
have
discussed
this
in
the
past.
Let's
drop
hole,
adding
an
additional
$50,000
that
we
will
make
contingent
on
that.
That
money
can
only
be
spent
on
additional
crossing
guards,
and
then
we
will
have
the
administration
work
with
the
vendor
and
come
back
and
let
us
know
which
of
those
locations
would
be
prioritized.
Mr.
F
F
A
F
F
A
A
A
Don't
know
that
question
sorry,
I
just
know
that
in
the
city,
that's
that's
how
we've
always
done
it,
and
so
my
thought
would
be
that
we
do
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
additional
crossing
guards
and
do
that
as
a
matching
and
and
ask
the
school
district
to
also
pay
fifty
thousand
dollars
so
that
we
could
then
cover
twice
as
many
these
areas.
Councilmember
Mendenhall
do.
A
If
there's
a
match,
if
we,
if
the
school
district
matches
correct
so
so
that
would
be,
that
would
be
the
intent
that
we
would
have
50
that
the
council
would
appropriate
an
additional
$50,000
contingent
on
the
school.
The
district
matching
that
same
amount
thumbs-up
and
any
further
questions
or
discussion
to
those
two.
A
A
F
N
A
N
A
The
reality
is
that
you
know
we've
it's
taken
since
April
in
order
to
you
know
for
the
vendor
to
staff
up.
In
order
to
do
this,
I
mean
there's,
there
still
will
be
a
process
that
they're
gonna
have
to
go
through.
So
it's
not
like
you
know,
we'd
be
able
to.
You
know
immediately.
Have
these
seven
spots
tomorrow,
I'm.
F
Just
bringing
this
up
because
I'm
thinking
forward,
depending
on
what
the
school
district
decides
its
decide
not
to
fund
it,
I
can't
fund
it,
and
that
comes
back
to
us.
We're
missing
a
first
semester,
essentially
until
after
the
Christmas
break
crossing
guards.
Would
this
hurt
anything
at
all
to
come
and
revisit
it's
a
November?
If
the
school
board
says
no
and
then
we
could
revisit
it
again
before
without
losing
a
whole
foal,
Scalia
I,
don't
think.
N
F
A
D
A
A
And
that
is
consistent
with
the
meeting
that
we
just
had
with
the
with
the
school
board
leadership.
And
so
again
you
know
the
if,
if
the
strap
hold
passes-
and
we
then
we
add
this
tonight,
we
would
be
approving
the
funding
tonight
for
the
50,000.
It
would
just
be
contingent
on
on
there.
So
it's
not
like
we
would
be
waiting
to
to
refund
a
bird
to
fund
it
later.
Does
that
make
sense
we'd
be
funding
it
tonight,
but
there
would
be
the
the
contingency
that
would
be
placing
on
them.
Mr.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
for
me,
this
establishes
a
good
precedence
for
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
school
district.
You
know
when
we're
gonna
pony
up
50%
they're
gonna
pony
up
50%.
It
just
established
a
great
precedence
moving
forward
because
for
the
protection
of
our
children,
I
don't
feel
like
the
crossing
guards
are
enough.
I
still
think
we
need
the
Reader
boards
in
front
of
schools
to
identify
speed
limits
and
I.
Just
think
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
start
it
off.
They've.
L
E
L
Andrew
want
to
say
something:
I
joined
up.
I
also
think
sorry
that
this
you
know,
the
the
school
board
and
school
district
have
and
I'm
coming
sort
of
from
an
RDA
perspective,
but
has
questioned
what
what
our
projects
have
done
and
do
for
them,
and
we've
taken
that
seriously
and
saying:
how
are
we
going
to
create
projects
that
benefit
them
and
I?
L
Think
that
is
part
of
this
partnership
right
and
and
we're
being
asked
to
do
a
lot
in
order
to
have
some
projects
and
I
think
that
it's
a
good
thing
to
say
we
just
we
want
you
to
step
up
a
little
bit
as
well
to
help
this,
and
so
I'm
in
support
of
this
type
of
and
and
I
know
that
they
are
in
support
and
and
I
appreciate
their
feedback.
I'm,
certainly
not
saying
anything
about
the
school
board
and
their
feedback
to
RDA
districts
or
having
creating
our
project
areas.
I'm.
L
A
I
can
only
say
it,
so
you
know
I
also
want
to
say
that
there
is
there's
all
there's,
often
a
misunderstanding,
of
what
the
roles
of
the
City
Council,
what
the
roles
of
the
mayor
and
what
the
roles
of
the
school
board
and
superintendent
are
and
I
think
a
lot
of
times.
People
tend
to
merge
those
together
or
assume
that
that
we
have
that
the
city
has
has
Authority
that
we
do
not
have
I
think
this
is
this.
This
fits
along.
A
The
lines
of
you
know
maintaining
the
two
very
different
responsibilities
that
we
as
a
Salt
Lake,
City
Council
has
and
they
as
a
school
board,
will
have,
but
it
it
allows
for
the
creation
of
a
of
a
working
relationship
and
tackling
something
that
that
has
been
ignored
for
far
too
long.
In
my
opinion,
council
member
Mendenhall
I.
D
Got
a
crazy
idea:
we
should
have
adopted
crosswalk
opportunities
for
developments
that
come
up
in
the
area
and
increase
density
or
businesses
in
the
community.
It's
not
seventy
seven
hundred
dollars
a
year.
It's
a
lot
when
we're
talking
about
90
additional
nodes,
but
with
all
the
growth
that
we're
experiencing,
we
should
have
some
of
that
growth,
helping
invest
in
pedestrian
I.
A
A
Not
we
not
this
current
makeup
of
council
members,
of
course,
but
but
as
a
city,
okay,
so
back
to
the
back
to
the
straw
poll,
then
it
would
be
that
we
include
$50,000
in
the
budget
amendment
tonight
for
the
for
additional
crossing
guards.
It
would
be
contingent
on
the
school
district
coming
back
and
matching
that
at
the
same
amount
at
$50,000,
all
in
favor
the
thumbs
up
thumbs
down
that
we
posed
that
okay
and
then
to
councilmember
Mendenhall's
request.
A
We
will
draft
a
letter
from
me
as
the
chair
to
the
chair
of
the
school
board
spelling
out.
Well,
you
know
what
the
action
that
we've
taken
tonight,
the
commitment
that
we've
made
and
encouraging
them
to
to
sign
on
and
to
let
us
know
if
that's
going
to
be
a
possibility
before
we
move
forward
with
budget
amendment
number
two
clear:
yes,
councilmember
Meno,
that.
D
Other
follow-up
that
I
don't
know
if
it's
I'm
thinking,
because
we
just
had
our
da
of
the
interest
rate
reduction
opportunities
that
we
give
and
how
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
some
specific
ideas.
Perhaps
that's
one
of
the
opportunities
to,
but
also
maybe
through
other
loan
opportunities
through
hand
or
I.
Don't
I'm,
just
thinking
about
how
we
could
propose
or
put
that
on
the
table
for
people
coming
to
either
get
money
or
get
a
rezone
that
could
sponsor
is
crosswalks
that
we
explore
that
with.
H
N
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
is
informational.
It's
an
update
and
timeline
for
the
city's
2020
to
2024
consolidated
plan
guiding
use
of
the
US
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
funds.
Then
you
stay
at
the
table
laney.
If
you
want
to
come
forward
and
Jennifer
Schumann
also
from
hand.
N
The
administration
has
a
presentation
for
the
council,
and
this
is
a
first
check
in
a
second
check
in
is
envisioned
later
this
year
or
early
next
year,
and
this
is
the
five-year
consolidated
plan
that
sets
the
objectives,
the
target
areas
that
certain
funding
can
be
spent
and
the
objectives
are
what
to
the
applications.
Each
year
when
you
review
CDBG,
ESG,
home
and
HOPWA
federal
grants.
The
objectives
you
set
in
the
consolidated
plan
are
what
those
applications
advance
and
so
depending
on
what
target
areas
and
what
objectives
are
in.
N
N
There
are
several
policy
questions
on
page
2
of
the
staff
report
and
there
are
attachments
with
maps
about
the
current
areas
that
are
eligible,
as
well
as
a
map
of
RTA
project
areas
and
Opportunity
Zones.
Given
the
RTA
board
and
councils
interest
in
trying
to
align
multiple
funding
tools
together
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
administration
for
the
presentation.
Thank.
E
You
Ben
Thank
You
council,
chair,
councilmembers
and
again
Thank
You
Ben
for
all
of
the
assistance
in
regards
to
getting
us
to
this
point
and
for
participating
directly
on
our
internal
stakeholder
group
meetings
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
more
later.
I
also
wanted
to
introduce
our
team
and
acknowledge
the
folks
here
with
the
hand
team
and
with
our
consultant
team
Jennifer
Schumann
folks
that
are
not
in
the
room:
Tony
Milner,
Dylan,
Hays,
Bailey,
White,
Siena
she'd
all
have
helped
with
getting
things
ready
and
then
Elaine
Wiseman,
our
new
capital
asset.
E
Excuse
me,
capital
planning,
manager
right
here
and
she'll,
be
taking
Jennifer's
place.
As
now,
I
have
Jennifer
Schumann
as
my
deputy
and
then
our
consultant
team
I
have
Muriel
so
Jamel
and
Bend
Becker,
and
we
have
them
here
to
help
us
with
questions.
If
you
have
them,
but
we
are
a
big
team
and
we're
mighty
and
we're
ready
to
take
on
the
consolidated
plan
efforts.
So
we're
here
today
seeking
your
direction,
feedback
and
guidance.
E
There
will
be
prompts
in
our
presentation
in
orange
for
you
to
look
at
and
provide
your
policy
guidance
and
priority
feedback,
and
then
Jen's
gonna
quickly
go
through
this
I
know
we're
tight
on
time,
and
we
appreciate
you
fitting
us
in
at
the
end
of
this
work
session,
just
going
through
the
process
in
hopes
of
leaving
sufficient
space.
For
you
all
to
ask
questions
and,
as
Ben
mentioned
we'll
be
back
in
the
coming
months
to
revisit
the
topic
and
I.
Think
that's
gonna,
be
it
for
me
and
we'll
have
jen.
Has
it
controls
and.
E
P
You
again
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today
I'm
the
consolidated
plan.
That's
a
very
loud
microphone
I'm.
The
consolidated
plan
refers
to
for
grants,
Community
Development,
Block,
Grant,
emergency
solutions,
grant
the
home
investment
partnership
program
and
housing
opportunities
for
persons
with
AIDS
as
a
recipient
of
these
funds.
Every
five
years,
Salt
Lake
City,
is
required
to
submit
a
strategic
plan
that
identifies
needs
that
exist
in
our
community,
evaluate
the
service
and
funding
gaps
that
exist
and
determine
a
strategy
on
how
the
city
will
use
these
federal
funds
to
address
those
challenges.
P
P
We
recently
heard
more
about
the
housing
market
from
the
chemisty
gardener,
Policy
Institute,
and
will
certainly
be
incorporating
this
timely
data
into
our
plan.
We
have
an
aging
housing
population
with
an
aging
housing
stock
incomes
are
not
keeping
up
with
housing
costs
and
we're
in
the
process
of
transitioning
to
a
new
homeless,
Resource
Center
model
that
is
untried
in
this
community
and
we
battle
challenges
with
not
only
accessing
housing
but
maintaining
housing
and,
lastly,
transportation
costs
continue
to
rise
right.
P
These
are
all
challenges
that
I'm
sure
you
are
very
familiar
with
and
that
you've
heard
from
multiple
folks
in
multiple
spaces.
Now
this
list
know
in
no
way
identifies
all
of
the
challenges
that
exist
in
our
community,
but
what
we
look
to,
and
and
that's
why
we
look
to
have
a
wide
number
of
voices
as
we
evaluate
our
community
needs
and
the
gaps
that
exist.
P
So
let's
talk
about
what
HUD
calls
the
process,
which
is
doesn't
really
tell
you
a
whole
lot,
but
it
really
comes
down
to
the
who.
What
where,
when,
why,
how
we
came
up
with
the
goals
and
the
strategies
that
that
we
move
forward
so
I
wanted
to
start
briefly
with
a
timeline
a
hand,
a
staff
has
actually
been
working
on
collecting
data
and
educating
our
nonprofit
partners
for
probably
about
a
year,
but
in
June
we
kicked
off
the
this
project
effort
using
our
consultant
team.
P
We
have
pulled
together
internal
and
external
stakeholders,
and
we
launched
a
community-wide
survey
I'm
that
survey
and
and
I
believe.
Actually
you
guys
helped
us
get
that
survey
out
to
our
community,
and
we
could
see
that
when,
when
you
did
that
I'm
our
our
responses
increased
significantly.
So
thank
you
for
participating
in
that
I
won't
go
through
all
of
the
details.
There's
a
lot
of
words
on
this
slide,
but
we've
been
working
really
hard
at
collecting
data
last
month.
P
We
also
did
a
briefing
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
provide
an
overview
to
them
as
well
and
we'll
be
taking
the
plan
back
to
them.
In
draft
form,
looking
for
a
recommendation,
I'm
currently
we're
wrapping
up
public
engagement
and
moving
into
a
heavy
data
analysis
really
pulling
in
a
lot
of
different
data
points,
I'm,
helping
us
establish
kind
of
those
goals
or
be
able
to
talk
about
the
goals,
and
we
look
at
it
analysis
of
impediments
to
fair
housing.
P
L
Here
absolutely
in
pulling
together
all
of
this
data
from
the
community
and
from
the
partners
and
all
of
the
the
things
you
just
mentioned.
Are
you
also
evaluating
how
the
consolidated
plan
from
2015
to
2019
went
and
sort
of
using
that
also
as
a
framework
by
which
to
evaluate
what
our
goals
be
for
the
2020
2020
for
consolidated
plan?
Yes,.
P
Absolutely
I
love
all
the
year
numbers
or
I
think
it
can
be
late
discombobulated
in
there.
Yes,
absolutely
there
are
certain
goals
that
we
are
behind
on
and
very
understandably
given
our
housing
market,
and
what
that
tells
us
is
that
we
need
to
think
differently
about
how
we
deploy
funds
for
housing
I'm.
P
What
we're
seeing
is
that
incomes,
because
incomes
can't
keep
up
with
the
rising
housing
costs
right
a
family
of
four
eighty
percent
ami
is
really
looking
for
a
house
around
$200,000.
One
of
you
last
seen
a
house
that
at
that
level
right
so
then
it
becomes
the
conversation
changes
and
then
we
talk
about
strategies
right,
like
what
other
strategies
could
we
deploy
to
get
the
housing
the
housing
price
point
down
low
enough
to
where
a
family
at
80%
ami
could
actually
afford
it
right.
So,
yes,
absolutely
we
are
looking
at
that
and
when.
L
L
L
P
Yeah
and
it's
great
to
hear
that
now
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
we
have
that
for
you
in
gear
sure.
We
also
recognize
that
the
challenges
that
we
face
in
our
community
are
not
unique
to
Salt
Lake
City.
They
go
across
geographical
boundaries,
and
so
we
are
working
with
Salt
Lake
County,
we're
collaborating
and
coordinating
with
them
in
their
efforts
to
receive
feedback,
and
we
will
be
incorporating
those
those
bits
of
information
into
our
data
analysis
as
well.
P
Every
municipality
that
receives
any
of
these
for
grants
are
doing
this
exact
same
process
at
this
exact
same
time.
So
it's
really
nice
to
be
able
to
understand
kind
of
where
their
priorities
are
going
as
well
and
how
we
might
align
and
partner
with
that
I'm
in
a
strategic
strategic
way.
So
the
culmination
of
this
is
is
a
really
in-depth
plan
that
needs
to
be
submitted
to
hide.
May
15th
of
2020.
P
L
I'm
gonna
ask
another
question:
it
was
in
our
staff
report,
but
it
does
interest
me.
How
are
we
sort
of
I
mean
the
question
that
is
here,
and
maybe
you
can
elaborate,
is
just
aligning
our
consolidated
plan
with
the
cities,
the
tools
the
city
already
has,
and
are
we
sort
of
working
with
other
departments
and
divisions
and
for
RTA,
for
example,
of
course,
with
insane?
How
do
we
come
up
and
this
question
sort
of
came
up
in
RDA
left
and
of
where?
How
do
we
define
target
areas?
P
I
will
I
will
state
that
I
am
in
the
internal
technical
advisory
group
that
we
assembled
I'm
has
representation
from
across
the
entire
city,
which
includes
RDA
transportation,
streets,
engineering
parks,
mayor's
artists,
council
office
Ben's
been
there,
so
we
are
definitely
working
with
what
are
what
kind
of
projects
do
we
have
on
the
timeline
or
looking
forward?
What
kind
of
projects
are
going
forward?
What
kind
of
investments
are?
Is
the
city
making
and
how
do
we
layer
in
these
funds
in
a
way
that
makes
sense?
I
may.
P
Excited
so
I,
also
just
before
we
jump
to
our
first
question,
I
wanted
to
provide
a
highlight
on
how
many
participants
we've
had
in
our
survey
we're
incredibly
excited
about
this.
We've
had
over
2,000
responses,
I'm
and
then
we
were
able
to
go
to
public
events
and
and
gather
additional
information
I'm
to
the
tune
of
about
1,100
folks.
So
we
have
been
able
to
receive
impact
or
sorry
receive
input
from
over
3100
folks,
and
we
will
finish
up
I
think
pretty
close
to
35
3600
by
the
time.
P
We're
done
so
we're
very
excited
about
being
able
to
to
highlight
that.
So,
let's
jump
in
and
explore
some
of
the
eligible
activities
which
brings
us
to
our
first
formal
question
of
the
presentation.
We've
looked
at
eligible
activities
and
kind
of
grouped
them
into
four
areas:
infrastructure,
economic
development
and
then
to
housing
ones,
one
for
rental,
one
for
homeownership.
P
The
question
that
we're
proposing
here
to
the
council
is
what
types
of
infrastructure
and
economic
development
activities
and
housing
activities
that
you
see
in
this
list.
Do
you
feel,
as
a
body
should
be
considered
for
prioritization
as
we
move
forward.
F
G
Have
to
comment
on
the
economic
development
portion
I
think
the
small
business
was
a
program
that
you
guys
have
been
doing
has
been
very
successful
and
it's
very
efficient,
despite
all
the
requirements
that
it
has,
what
I
think
it
has
a
great
impact,
so
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
that
happen
in
other
areas
of
the
city
that
might
need
it.
But
I
don't
know
if
it's
if
we're
lacking
is
a
micro
enterprise
loans.
G
When
we
say
micro,
enterprise
I
feel
like
there
is
a
cap
that
the
city
is
not
meeting,
which
are
the
micro
loans
that
are
not
really
available
out
there
in
other
nonprofits
is
something
that
maybe
we
could
be
doing
there
micron.
So
you
should
in
other
nonprofits
my
two
loans
from
10,000
to
50,000
and
then
there's
the
fifty
thousand
to
a
hundred
and
more
data.
That's
the
gap
and
the
banks
will
do
the
higher
ones,
but
there's
also
an
opportunity
for
the
super
micro
loans.
G
There
might
be
$1,000
or
$5,000
that
some
predatory
lending
institutions
might
be
doing
for
small
business
owners
that
may
be,
and
they
charge
higher
rates
on
that
that
maybe
the
city
can
can
do
instead,
at
a
lower
rate,
to
help
the
small
small
business
with
a
for
the
micro
micro
enterprises
and
then
on
the
on
the
housing
rental
one.
You
have
preserve
existing
units
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
keep
hearing
from
the
community
is
displacement
when
we
have
new
buildings
that
are
replacing
other
units,
and
so
this
preserve
existing
units.
N
G
That
the
second
one,
because
what
we
and
I
think
Aaron
and
I
have
talked
to,
especially
with
the
crossroads
urban
folks
about
you,
know
them
having
a
lot
of
clients
or
people
that
they
know
after
they
live
in
certain
apartment.
Buildings
at
the
moment
are
affordable,
but
coming
this
new
building,
which
it
will
be
nice
or
a
newer,
maybe,
but
they
won't
be
able
to
afford
the
people
that
live
there,
so
they're
not
being
rehoused,
understood.
D
Said
councilmember
Baltimore
else,
and
in
some
of
those
conversations,
we've
heard
the
frustration
that
we
provide
loans
almost
every
month
to
new
development
happening
and
nothing
to
help
existing
landlords
and
property
owners
maintain
what
is
naturally
occurring
affordability,
and
we
should
be
doing
that
in
exchange
for
the
continued
affordability
or
some
rate
of
it.
So
can
I
just
tick
through
a
few
of
the
priorities
that
I
would
list
on
this
under
infrastructure,
I
think,
accessibility,
improvements,
sidewalk
improvements
and
park
improvements
rise
up
as
we're
looking
for
street
improvements
and
community
buildings.
D
D
It's
really
the
preservation
line
for
both
rental
and
owner-occupied
for
me
in
the
Community
Land
Trust,
but
on
the
top
line,
we're
building
rental
units
and
building
owner
occupied
housing.
I
wrote
in
my
notes.
Over
the
top
of
that
ad.
You
and
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
do
something
like
the
alley
flat
initiative
that
is
happening
in
Austin
Texas,
and
we
don't
have
to
get
into
what
that
looks
like
now.
But
I
know
that
the
up
at
the
University
of
Utah,
the
ivory
prize,
was
given
to
that
nonprofit
organization,
who
you.
D
P
Great
that
for
sure
I
I
know,
HUD
has
struggled
with
concepts
of
Adu.
So
I'm
going
to
do
a
lot
of
learning
about
what's
happening
in
austin,
to
see,
if
they're,
using
federal
funding
in
that
space
and
how
they're
able
to
deploy
that
it's
always
easier.
If
someone
else
has
done
it
and
we
can
yeah
any.
P
Fantastic,
thank
you
for
that
feedback,
so
to
maximize
impact
and
leverage
nope,
I'm
gonna
back
up
federal
regulations,
so
our
have
federal
regulations
require
that
infrastructure
and
economic
development
type
activities
can
only
occur
in
CDBG,
a
load
eligible
census,
tracts
we've
provided
a
map
that
delineates
where
these
anticipated
eligible
areas
are
I
know
it's
a
little
challenging
to
see
I
believe
you
also
have
a
hard
copy
and
then
they're
in
there
provided
electronically
as
well
to
maximize
impact
and
leverage
resources.
P
Hud
requires
that
the
city
identify
target
areas
for
both
of
these
types
of
activities,
and
this
is
where
the
council
actually
has
a
lot
of
flexibility.
I'm
target
areas
can
be
any
size
other
than
the
full
city
and
there's
no
just
yet
the
target
area
of
Salt
Lake
City
right
that
there's
no
limit
as
to
the
number
of
target
areas
that
a
community
can
have
I'm.
P
To
give
just
two
brief
examples
on
how
target
areas
were
used
in
the
current
plan
and
I
believe
I
know,
I
saw
in
the
RDA
board
I'm
present
time
presentation,
but
I
believe
you
also
have
the
current
map
of
the
target
areas
but
I'm
in
year.
Three
that
the
council
may
recall
that
we
realized
that
all
a
da
ramps
in
the
target
area
that
were
eligible
for
federal
support
had
been
completed,
and
so
we
shifted
funding
to
support
sidewalk
improvements
for
the
remainder
of
the
plan.
Additionally,
we
brought
up
the
facade
program.
P
That's
been
incredibly
impactful
in
the
area
to
be
able
to
target
a
very
specific
geographic
area.
We've
been
able
to
complete
41
projects.
We
have
five
in
the
pipeline
and
12
to
13
more
that
we
anticipate
happening
I'm
here
soon,
I'm
and
I'm
sure
you've
been
able
to
drive
around
and
see
that
kind
of
some
of
those
improvements,
Fischer
brewery,
Mets
or
printing
square
kitchen
compost,
market
maven
and
Magnum
bikes
to
name
a
few
I'm.
So
it's
so.
This
is
why
this
is
exactly
why
I
hug
is
looking
for
target
areas
in
each
community.
P
A
A
A
L
Think
in
to
help
me
answer
these
questions
it
would.
It
would
be
helpful
to
understand
how
the
previous
council
before
me,
that
was
here
in
the
last
consolidated
era,
if
you
will
came
to
their
target
area,
what
criteria
were
used
to
create
those
target
areas?
Just
some
some
background.
Information
regarding
those
target
areas
would
be
helpful
as
I
kind
of
move
forward
and
see.
What
are
those
good
things
do
I
agree
with
that
that
kind
of
thing
to
help
answer
this.
N
As
an
anecdote,
the
prior
city
engineer
right
when
he
left
one
of
the
successes
that
he
mentioned
was
that
over
half
of
the
ad
a
ramp
improvements
in
the
target
areas
had
been
completed
in
the
span
of
a
few
years,
and
so
that's
one
of
those
impacts
that
residents
can
see
in
that
target
area.
Instead
of
spreading
out
the
ad
a
ramp
improvements
through
multiple
neighborhoods
sure.
L
But
I
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
think
if
your
target
area
is
four
blocks,
then
how
successful
are
we
in
getting
four
ramp
ie?
Potentially
sixteen
ramps
right,
I
mean
and
so
I
think
that
that
is
something
to
look
at
as
well.
I
want
us
to
be
successful
and
that
that's.
Why
exactly
that?
I
want
to
see
that
information,
because
it
will
be
helpful
to
see
how
big
they
were,
how
small
they
were
and
and
what
that
impact
for
the
neighborhood
was
so
if
I
could
absolutely.
A
And
we
want
to
do
this,
I
mean
because
these
are
really
and
first
off.
Thank
you
very
much
for
posing
the
questions
and
and
letting
us
think
about
it,
because
this
is
something
that
I
think
it's
an
incredible
resource
that
we
have.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
the
right
way
that
we
have
enough
time
to
really
think
about
it.
So
it
would
you
would
you
all
be
up
we'd
not
be
opposed,
but
would
you
be
willing
before
we
schedule
the
follow-up
to
you
know?
A
Potentially
work
with
our
council
staff
will
work
with
you
in
scheduling
small
group
meetings
for
Council
members,
so
that
we
can
better
understand
exactly
what
the
nuances
of
all
of
these
things
are,
because
it
is,
but
it's
incredibly
complicated
and
you
know
there
but
again,
there's
there
there.
It
really
is
a
good
opportunity.
So
if
that
would
work,
I
think
that
would
be
a
big
help
to
all
of
us.
Happy.
A
G
And
one
more
question
to
that:
I
would
like
to
know
what
are
the
like:
the
metrics
of
had
to
measure.
What's
successful
like
what
you
know,
what
determines
at
a
target
area
has
been
successful
and
therefore
we
need
to
move
on
to
a
next
one
or
is
it
okay?
It's
hot
okay,
with
having
the
same
target
area
for
a
long
time.
Is
there
a
time
limit
those
questions
so
that
we
can
wrap
our
heads
around
which
area
we
need
to?
You
know
it
does
raise
questions
and
what
areas
we
think
might.
P
So
with
that,
we'll
just
finish
up
right
in
the
last
last
couple
of
slides,
so
the
next
one
again
don't
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
question
about
prioritization:
here's
where
the
heartstrings
come
in
right,
so
we're
talking
public
service
eligible
activities
here
and
I've,
looked
lumped
them
into
four
categories:
homeless,
health,
youth
and
adult
services.
Some
of
the
activities
under
each
of
them
may
apply
to
several
different
categories,
but
especially
under
homeless,
like
I
think
there's
one
that's
medical
and
dental
health
right.
P
So
as
long
as
your
income
eligible
sure,
you
could
access
that.
But
in
the
past
we
have
targeted
that
towards
the
homeless
population.
So
that's
not
to
say
that
it
can't
be
accessed
by
anybody
else,
but
rather
what
we've
done
in
the
past.
So
this
again
is
where
it's
very
difficult.
Every
year,
when
we
look
at
applications,
there's
a
lot
more
need
than
there
are
funds
available
for
this,
this
segment
of
the
the
grants.
F
Member
Jefferson
Allen
on
these
particular
services,
public
services,
at
least
I'm,
not
sure
the
council
has
a
lot
of
information
about
the
current
system
or
things
that
are
being
offered
by
a
county
state,
other
nonprofits
versus.
What's
not
the
gaps?
Would
there
be
any
information
to
help
inform
about
potential
gaps,
you're,
seeing
that
the
city
may,
if
the
city
doesn't
step
in,
they
may
be
unfunded
for
anybody.
I
don't
know
if
that'd
be
helpful,
not
for
the
council
to
know,
but
I
know.
F
E
F
P
P
We
will
be
returning
to
the
Planning
Commission
again
to
get
a
recommendation
for
the
draft
plan
at
that
point,
I'm
in
March
we'll
do
a
30-day
public
comment,
period
per
HUDs
regulations
and
then
in
April,
I'm,
consistent
with
the
normal,
typical
CDBG
process
and
you'll
get
the
opportunity
to
approve
a
plan
and
appropriate
the
first
year
of
funding
for
that
plan.
It
then
takes
us
a
couple
of
weeks
to
pull
together
all
the
final
documents
and
do
a
public-facing
document
and
get
that
all
ready
to
be
submitted
to
HUD.
P
A
A
I
Hi
thanks
for
having
me
yes
I,
my
name
is
you
waiting
yeah,
no
problem.
My
name
is
Joe
Jacobi
I,
a
architecture
firm
here
in
the
city,
Jacobi,
architects.
We
mostly
design
public
schools,
specializing
education,
special
education
and
all
that
I've
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
public
projects
which
have
kind
of
a
public
art
selection
component
to
it.
So
I
just
think
it's
so
critical
to
to
really
scrutinize
artwork,
that's
going
in
the
state
and
then
the
city,
and
so
that
was
one
reason.
I
I
was
really
interested
in
this
board
was
just
that
that
critical
process
and
in
in
really
selecting
good
artwork.
You
know
the
city
is
known
and
becoming
even
more
known
for
great
artwork,
so
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
participate
in
that
and
then
overall
running
my
own
private
practice.
I
just
really
want
to
be
more
involved
in
my
community.
So
that's
that's
why
I
was
really
interested
in
this.
This
position,
great.
A
Okay,
so
this
information
is
for
you,
as
well
as
the
two
other
applicants
who
interview
in
just
a
minute.
Your
names
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda
across
the
hall
during
our
formal
meeting.
You
don't
need
to
worry
about
sticking
around
for
that,
but
you're
welcome
to
if
you'd
like,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
your
interest
again,
your
resume
looks
great
and
it's
gonna
be
really
good
too.
Thank
you.
Have
you
on
the
board.
A
A
And
mr.
chair
mr.
chair,
which
will
have
you
go
first
and
then
mr.
Poli
will
have
you
introduce
yourself?
Thank
you
same
question
same
yeah,
the
same
question
I
get
well
instead
of
serving
on
the
art
design
board.
Why
are
you
interested
in
serving
on
the
Housing
Trust
Funds
Booker,
and
do
you
like
art,
no.
O
I
have
been
interested
in
civil
support
for
most
of
my
life.
I
have
been
involved
in
numerous
charitable
organizations
that
have
focused
on
the
downtrodden
I
have
been
very
active
in
my
Episcopal
Church
and
activities
that
have
focused
on
helping
others
and
I
have
extensive
experience
with
the
federal
government
and
some
of
their
plans
and
a
little
bit
with
the
state,
but
never
with
the
city
and
I
thought.
O
This
would
be
very
interesting
to
have
this
exposure
to
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
with
my
past
experiences
and
trying
to
help
those
that
are
disadvantaged.
The
affordable
housing
issue
ties
directly
into
the
work
I've
done
here
with
Catholic
community
services
and
the
homeless
people,
and
what
I
did
in
Ogden
I
was
one
of
the
movers
in
establishing
the
the
first
homeless
Center
that
they
had
in
Ogden,
and
so
here
I
am
another
opportunity
and
I
hope
that
can
be
of
help.
A
E
Has
way
more
experience
than
I
do
I'm
a
licensed
architect,
I'm
interested
in
this
board,
because
there's
a
need
and
I
can
witness
it
every
day
living
in
4th
and
I
see
lots
of
individuals
who
I
meet
every
day
who
are
needing
that
support
and
on
a
personal
level,
also
I,
my
father
as
a
partial
quadriplegic.
So
disability
housing
is
a
big
element
for
me.
It's
it's
hard
to
find
housing
for
those
with
disabilities,
physical
and
mental.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
I
think
this
is
something
that
I
can
do
to
help
my
community
right.
A
A
So
that
concludes
the
work
that
we
have
for
our
work
session.
Do
we
have
any
announcements
from
the
executive
director?
We
do
not
and
no
new
reports
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
so
we
will
temporarily
well
we'll
adjourn
the
work
session
reconvene
our
formal
meeting
across
the
hall
at
7:15.
So
if
we
could
have
somebody
make
an
announcement
across
the
hall
that
we
will
begin
15
minutes
late,
that
would
be
appreciated.