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A
The
Salt
Lake
City
Council
for
Tuesday
November
24th
2019.
We
have
one
item
on
our
our
work
session
tonight
and
that
is
an
informational
presentation
about
the
ninth
south
ramp
feasibility
study
update
so
Russell.
If
you
want
to
introduce
us
to
this
and
then
John,
Larson
and
Jeff
golden,
if
you
want
to
come
up
to
the
table,.
B
Brief,
this
is
an
update
of
a
technical
study
about
the
feasibility
of
what
to
do
in
the
future
with
the
900
south
freeway
off-ramps.
The
study
was
as
you'll
hear
in
about
30
seconds.
The
study
was
done
in
part
at
the
behest
of
the
area
neighborhoods,
who
are
concerned
about
the
effect
of
the
ramps
on
their
neighborhood.
C
C
It
creates
a
barrier
as
far
as
being
able
to
conveniently
travel,
especially
by
you,
know,
walking
or
biking
throughout
the
neighborhood,
and
so
we
were
able
to
procure
some
funds
and
hire
a
consultant
to.
Finally
just
take
a
look
at
what
it
would
take,
what
the
options
are,
and
this
is
the
first
time
we
actually
were
able
to
engage
with
you
dot
who
owns
the
ramp
on
what
different
options
would
be
for
this.
You
know
reconfiguring
this
rampe,
and
so
with
that
Jeff
Golan
managed
this
project
and.
B
A
D
So
for
this
study
this
was
a
basically
as
a
data
collecting
data
gathering
study
where
we
looked
at
several
options
to
determine
what
might
be
potentially
feasible
within
900
south
ramp.
So
we
had
a
project
team
and
a
project
steering
committee.
I
can
get
in
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
we
wanted
to
try
to
figure
out
how
many
different
alternatives
there
could
be
in
the
ball
park
area
there
to
modify
shorten
or
realign
the
900
south
ramp.
We
thought
of
as
many
different
things
as
we
could.
D
We
came
up
with
a
handful
of
scenarios
that
we
thought
carried
some
weight.
We
took
those
scenarios
to
the
steering
committee
steering
committee
included:
u
dot?
U
dot
was
along
at
the
table
for
this
project.
The
entire
way
I
also
included
folks
from
the
Planning
Division
and
RDA,
as
well
as
us
in
the
transportation
division
we
had.
This
John
talked
about.
D
We
had
money
to
look
at
three
scenarios
in
detail,
so
the
steering
committee
selected
the
three
scenarios
that
they
thought
would
be
the
best
to
look
at
in
in
a
specific
amount
of
detailing
what
I'm
talking
about
detail,
I'm
talking
about
as
I'm
talking
about
traffic
engineering.
So
it
was
really
a
traffic.
It
was
really
pure
ly
a
technical
study,
so
we
looked
at
the
impacts
for
existing
conditions
as
well
as
2040
conditions.
We
followed
the
UDOT
standards.
We
looked
at
the
operations
at
the
intersections.
D
C
C
That
when
we
talked
about
this
with
you
dot,
you
know
we
we
like
as
a
viable
option,
just
complete
elimination
of
the
ramp.
That
should
be
considered.
You
not
mean
that
very
clear
that
they
wouldn't
participate
really
in
any
way.
If
we
had
that
as
an
option,
and
so
we
didn't
analyze
that
there
was,
it
was
closed
for
a
few
months,
a
few
years
back
for
maintenance,
and
so
we
were
able
to
gather
some
data.
C
But
when
Jeff
mentioned
the
traffic
study
following
you
dot
standards,
basically
one
of
their
requirements
was
that
any
scenarios
be
analyzed
in
a
way
to
mitigate
the
traffic
impacts
so
that
any
reconfiguration
of
the
ramp
wouldn't
push
traffic
to
adjacent
ramps.
So
that
was
an
important
criteria
for
them.
A
So
a
quick
question
so
before
we
get
into
the
different
options,
how,
as
far
as
UDOT
goes,
how
were
they
as
a
partner,
and
I
asked
that
you
know
with
foothill,
drive
bisecting
district,
six
and
understanding.
You
know
how
much
of
an
impact
you
dot
projects
and
you
taught
man
that
you
dot,
managed
roads
have
in
the
city
and
how
tied
our
hands
really
are,
with
some
of
the
options
that
you're
going
to
go
through.
How
realistic
do
you
think
those
are
I
mean
was?
A
C
D
You
you
dot,
you
know
it
was
a
very
good
partner
on
that
study.
We
were
very
happy
to
have
them
engaged
attending
all
of
the
meetings
with
us
reviewing
all
of
the
detailed
traffic
analysis
which
again,
we
did
to
their
level
of
it
to
their
desire.
So
they
were
very
good
reviewed.
All
of
that.
They
brought
multiple
people
to
some
of
the
meetings
they
provided
comments
and
in
a
lot
of
the
study,
so
they
were
a
good
partner.
We
were
really
glad
to
have
them
at
the
table.
D
E
But
we
had
to
ask
right
right
and
so
I
think
this
is
an
exciting
bunch
of
information
and
data
collection.
That
happened
as
an
answer
to
the
community
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
Jeff
was
saying
that
if
you
look
at
the
scenarios,
there's
some
areas
that
have
hatched
marks
or
blue
boxes
that
would
be
land
that
would
have
to
be
acquired
to
do
these
other
scenarios
and
no
one
is
as
it's
you
dot
required.
E
That
thought
that
we
acknowledge
those
needs
in
the
scenario
contemplation
that
there
is
absolutely
no
proposal
in
here.
It's
really
just
great
for
the
community
to
be
able
to
see
what
it
would
take
in
order
to
have
that
kind
of
a
conversation
and
the
back
to
the
impetus
from
the
community
perspective
of
creating
greater
connectivity
between
the
neighborhoods.
Could
you
guys
speak
to
it?
Maybe
any
of
those
takeaways
from
the
process.
C
So
Jeff
can
talk
about
a
little
overview
of
the
the
actual
scenarios.
The
bottom
line
is
that,
unless
you're
able
to
and
even
then
it
shifts
impacts
anything
that
we
do
to
this
ramp,
we
recognize
that
it's
been
a
long-standing
major
impact
to
this
neighborhood,
but
any
modifications
basically
just
shifts
the
impact
somewhere
else.
C
You
know
a
full
elimination
of
the
ramp
pushes
it
to
other
ramps,
and
so
in
some
ways
would
actually
be
less
impactful,
but
that's
kind
of
a
that's
a
non-starter,
but
other
things
that
could
be
done
relatively
short-term
are
things
that
could
help
improve
the
north-south
connectivity
through
the
this
ramp.
So,
third
West,
that's
one
of
the
major
projects
on
the
streets
bond
and
we're
going
through
the
process
right
now
that
will
completely
reimagine
that
to
make
it
much
more
safe
and
comfortable
for
walking
and
biking.
C
Second
West
is
another
Street
that
could
be
looked
at
in
the
underpass,
maybe
seeing
what
could
be
done
to
make
that
a
better
community
space
and
then
we'd
like
to
look
at
a
variety
of
other
options
in
and
around
the
ramps
to
not
only
improve
the
the
permeability.
The
north-south
connectivity,
but
then
also
just
from
like
a
attractiveness
standpoint
to
make
it
so
it
doesn't
feel
like
such
an
ominous
weight
on
the
neighborhood,
but
I
don't
know
if
Jeff
has
some
details
on
the
actual
scenarios.
D
Was
a
good
overview
I
can
get
in
I
can
follow
up
with
some
of
the
transportation
engineering
information
again
getting
back
to
this
being
the
first
time
that
we
really
looked
at
it
and
we
gathered
a
whole
bunch
of
data.
We
know
now
how
many
vehicles
use
that
we
know
where
the
vehicles
are
going.
So
it
provides
us
opportunity,
including
having
this
dialogue
with
you
dot.
It
provides
us
opportunities
in
the
short
term
to
make
modifications
that
will
help
the
neighborhood.
D
It
will
help
traffic
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
as
well
as
transit,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
access.
So,
for
example,
the
intersection
of
nine
hard
south
and
west
temple
where
the
ramp
touches
down.
You
dot
knows
that.
There's
problems
with
that
intersection
in
the
sense
that
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
make
some
sort
of
minor
changes
to
the
northbound
right
turns
there,
we
could
do
that.
We
just
happen
to
be
going
through
right
now
and
designing
and
building
improvements
along
nine
hard
south.
So
we'll
work
with
you
dot
to
look
at
doing
that.
D
So
of
all
of
the
different
things
that
we
looked
at,
we
talked
about
extending
the
ramp,
shortening
the
ramp
closing
the
ramp.
We
talked
about
moving
it
to
600
West,
the
three
that
we
settled
on,
which
you
guys
have
copies
of
we
and
I
say
settled
on
what
I
mean
is
we
move
these
forward
for
a
detailed
analysis
where
we
looked
at
them
with
micro
simulation
models
for
traffic
analysis?
We
also
have
the
civil
engineer,
look
at
them
for
a
layout.
D
The
scenario
a
is
moving
the
ramp
to
300
West,
so
the
ramp
would
touch
down
at
300
West.
Some
of
the
benefits
of
that
is.
It
provides
the
greatest
reduction
in
ramp
length,
so
it
shortens
the
ramp
the
most
of
the
alternatives
that
we
looked
at.
Some
of
the
major
drawbacks
to
that
is
that
it
affects
a
rail
spur
that
UTA
actually
owns
that
crosses
300
West
at
about
10
South.
A
D
Caused
so
much
alarm,
the
other
scenario
that
we
looked
at
is
connecting
the
ramp
relocating
it
connecting
it
over
to
400
West
and
it
would
touchdown
at
800
South
as
opposed
to
900
South
900
South
we're
prioritizing
four
different
modes.
That's
going
to
be
one
of
our
frequent
transit
networks
as
well.
We
ran
out
of
the
urban
trail
the
shared
use
path
on
the
south
side
of
the
road,
so
we
would
want
it
to
fly
overnight
and
touchdown
at
800
South.
As
you
can
imagine,
there
are
complications
with
that
as
well.
D
The
benefit
to
this
scenario
is
that
it
provides
the
greatest
amount
of
land.
They
could
be
developed
greatest
amount
of
land
where
the
ramp
currently
is.
That
would
now
be
open
land,
but
it
has
pretty
substantial
impacts
along
400
West,
and
it
also
has
impacted
by
the
UT
a
potential
for
a
UT,
a
rail
extension
and
then
the
final
scenario
that
we
looked
at
and
then
I'll
try
to
answer
questions
and
and
discuss
these
in
more
detail.
D
But
the
final
scenario
we
looked
at
is
a
combination
of
the
two,
and
that
is
where
you
provide
a
connection
to
300
West,
but
you
also
provide
a
connection
up
four
hundred
West
Tate
and
her
South
that
operates
the
best
from
a
transportation
perspective
because
it
separates
the
traffic.
The
roadways
can
be
smaller,
so
the
impacts
to
the
adjacent
properties
would
be
smaller.
E
Who've
been
asking
for
this
study
in
supporting
the
study.
One
is
from
Bill
Davis,
the
others
from
Jesse
hulls
and,
as
you
you
all
know,
Jesse
hulls
from
Atlas
architects
at
central
ninth
and
he
articulates
a
couple
of
the
the
concerns
which
I,
don't
think,
necessarily
need
to
be
remedied
by
the
removal
of
the
ramp,
but
around
the
dead
ends
and
the
blight
that
that
creates
about
around
the
unused
berms
on
the
sides
of
the
ramp
that
maybe
could
be
better
activated.
The
walking
routes
being
limited,
fairly
limited
and
under
a
pretty
wide
viaduct.
E
That
could
be
better
lighted
or
activated
with
art,
and
that
reminds
me
of
the
granary,
mural
project
that
we
funded
fairly
recently
and,
as
several
other,
really
legitimate
concerns
that
the
Community
Council
and
the
community
has
about
this
ramp
cutting
through
the
area
but
I
think
that
there
this
is.
While
this
was
just
an
analysis
and
not
a
policy
recommendation,
it
brings
up
some
insightful
opportunities
for
future
conversations
that
we
could
have
in
just
the
city,
but
also
I,
think
with
Utah
in
the
community.
F
D
The
UDOT
about
sixty
over
sixty
percent
of
the
traffic
that
uses
the
ramp
we
measured
this
goes
to
the
downtown
or
downtown
East
area.
So
from
a
regional
transportation
perspective.
This
is
an
important
group.
Ramp
is
an
important
piece
of
udot's
infrastructure.
They
like
the
idea
of
getting
people
from
their
regional
freeway
system
close
to
the
downtown
and
downtown
East
area
which
this
ramp
right
now
does
a
good
job
of.
So
that's
where
they're
coming
from.
C
Know
I
think
that's
something
that
we'll
have
to
figure
out
together
and
something
we're
gonna
be
going
to
the
community
councils
in
the
next
month
and
it's
a
conversation
I
think
that
absolutely
needs
to
continue
as
far
as
what
what
we
do
from
here.
I
think
this
study
makes
it
clear
that
and
in
the
short
term,
medium
town
ramp
is
it's
gonna
be
around
for
a
while,
and
so
we'd
really
like
to
look
at
like
some
of
the
things
that
councilmember
Mendenhall
mentioned.
As
far
as
some.
C
D
D
D
The
cost
it's
mentioned
in
here
I
believe,
is
one
of
the
disadvantages,
but
you
thought
indicated
to
us
that
if
we
were
to
tunnel
with
a
ramp
where
it
currently
exists
today,
which
actually
we
call
it
a
tunnel,
but
it
would
be
much
simpler
than
a
tunnel
if
we
were
to
do
that,
it
would
be
more
of
a
cut
and
cover,
so
we
would
just
cut
it
cap
it.
You
not
indicated
to
us
through
this
study
that
the
land
on
top
of
that
tunnel
I'm
gonna,
refer
to
it
as
a
tunnel.
D
G
For
the
Liam
councilmember
warden
I'm
being
serious
when
I
bring
up
the
underground
piece,
I
understand
that
you
thought
would
have
the
land
and
they
restrict
what
it
would
be
used
for.
But
if
we
broaden
this
to
I-15
and
the
ramps,
we
can
transform
the
city
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
it's
more
of
an
engineering
question
right.
It's
not
really
a
traffic
flow
so
much
because
you
have
the
keys.
Potentially
the
existing
traffic
flow,
the
same
exits
just
gotten
covered
right.
Yes,
it
would
be
I.
D
We
can
do
a
detailed
evaluation
as
you
want
on
that.
Some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
is
we
can
do
a
quick
look
at
similar
situations
in
the
United
States
and
around
the
world
to
look
at
how
this
is
handled.
We
actually
did
a
lot
of
those
scenarios,
the
not
just
the
three
but
the
other
ones.
We
actually
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
discussing
and
looking
at
and
so
the
tunnel
one.
It
actually
provides
a
lot
of
good
opportunity.
D
So
one
of
the
downsides
with
tunnels
is
that
the
entry
and
exit
point
is
usually
pretty
large,
but
you
have
the
ability
here
to
actually
separate
that
on
West
temple,
so
you
could
probably
do
it
within
most
of
the
right
away
that
you
have
on
West
temple,
which
is
also
a
you
da
road,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
do
is
we
could
look
at
those
types
of
things
from
a
higher
level.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
any
other
comments
or
recommendations.
C
G
C
A
Any
other
thoughts
or
questions.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this.
It
is
something
that
you
know
we
that
we
hear
about
regularly
and
I
know
that
as
a
council,
we've
talked
about
this
in
the
past
about
about
doing
something.
I
do
think
that
we
have
you.
Dot
is
going
to
be
a
significant
hurdle
on
anything.
We
do
not
I
mean
not.
Just
because
of
you
know
what
they're
what
we
currently
have
works
for
them
because
of
the
the
funding
that
would
be
required
for
it.
A
C
And
I'll
just
add
with
as
far
as
the
unit
coordination,
they
are
I've
really
impressed
with
their
current
leadership
and
I
feel,
like
they're,
trying
really
hard
to
change
some
of
their
standards
and
their
culture
to
be
better
at
listening
to
the
needs
of
the
community
and
where
we're
at
now
with
them,
which
I
think
is
actually
quite
a
bit
further
ahead
than
we
were
10
20
years
ago.
Is
that
they're
willing
to
explore
almost
any
option
with
us
as
long
as
it
doesn't
remove
a
lane
of
traffic?
A
A
That's
okay!
I!
Don't
know
if
we
do
no
announcements.
Okay,
so
one
item
to
report
on
from
the
chair
and
vice-chair
I
attended
the
Mill
Creek
City
Council
meeting
last
night,
where
their
City
Council
and
mayor
unanimously
approved
the
interlocal
that
we
approved
last
week
related
to
the
boundary
adjustments
between
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
Mill
Creek.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
work.
Thank
the
administration
as
well
for
the
work
over
the
past
few
months.
A
Now
the
annexation
weather
that
that
that
clock
started
last
week
when
we,
when
we
passed
it
so
there's
a
60-day
time
period
for
for
that
process
to
continue,
but
as
far
as
the
work
between
both
council
or
both
cities
for
the
interlocal,
that
was,
that
was
taken
care
of
last
night.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
that
James
D
evany.
E
Want
to
thank
you,
mr.
chair,
and
vice-chair
for
acting
on
the
city's
behalf
to
communicate
with
the
County
Council
and
make
them
aware
of
the
consequences
that
would
have
resulted
for
Salt,
Lake
City
and
our
taxpayers
if
they
would
have
approved
that
annexation.
Thank
you
for
taking
that
initiative.
Thank.
A
You
seeing
no
further
questions
or
comments.
We
will
adjourn
and
I
will
immediately
convened
the
formal
session
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
Council.
This
is
a
limited,
formal
meeting
that
we
will
have
for
Tuesday
September
24th
2019.
You
need
to
look
to
the
recorders
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
do.
Okay,
so
we're
good
to
go
on
this
item.
We
will
do
a
very
quick
opening
ceremony.
There's
your
opening
ceremony
public
hearings.
We
do
not
have
any
public
hearings.
A
I
Mr.
chair
I
would
move
that
the
council
approved
the
ordinance
adopting
the
black
sixty-seven
north
community
reinvestment
area
project
area
plan
and
adopt
a
resolution
authorizing
execution
of
the
interlocal
agreement
between
Selig
City
Corporation
and
the
Redevelopment
Agency
of
Salt
Lake
City
authorizing
use
of
a
portion
of
tax
increment
for
the
black
67
north
CRA.
Second,.
E
Chair
an
RTA
staff,
you
helped
us
navigate
what
started
off
as
a
not
good
conversation
for
Salt,
Lake
City
and
with
a
lot
of
collaboration
with
the
county
partners
and
obviously
the
applicant,
but
really
the
city
RDA
in
the
county.
You
have
navigated
such
a
better
path
for
Salt
Lake
City
in
this
development.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Hard
work,
great.
A
A
I
Now
we're
going
to
return
as
the
RTA
so
well
reconvene
as
the
RTA
did
I
say
reader,
and
this
is
how
much
were
ready
to
be
done.
We
reconvene
this
meeting
for
the
special
limited
meeting
for
the
Redevelopment
Agency
anything
else
that
I
need
to
do
to
wait.
We
only
have
one
item
of
business
under
the
redevelopment
agency
business.
It
is
a
diversion
of
property
tax
for
community
reinvestment
project
area,
buck
67,
North,
community
reinvestment
area,
local
agreement,
Salt
Lake
City.
Madam.