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D
Just
what
our
plan
is
to
give
just
a
high-level
overview
of
the
audit
process
communicate
some
of
the
communications
that
are
required
by
the
audit
standards
and
then
answer
any
questions
if,
if
they
exist,
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
through
is
the
audit
process
as
far
as
a
timetable.
So
our
audit
really
begins
in
earnest.
D
Well,
the
planning
and
development
of
an
audit
plan
begins
May
June
timeframe
and
then
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
issue
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report
or
the
kafir'.
We
usually
target
the
Friday
before
Christmas,
because
if
that
big
document
is
issued
before
Christmas,
everything
is
just
a
little
merrier
so
that
that's
our
goal
and
I'm
very
happy
to
report
that
we
did
issue
that
on
the
20th
of
December
this
year,
so
that
in
and
of
itself
is
an
indication
of
a
really
good
audit
and
good
effort
by
me
and
edgemon
our
fieldwork.
D
Excuse
me
this
year,
where
there
were,
there
were
two
adjustments
that
were
simply
a
matter
of
management,
closing
out
the
books
as
we
started
the
audit,
nothing
of
great
concern
there
as
auditors.
Our
responsibility
is
to
plan
and
execute
not
it
that
provides
reasonable
assurance
that
the
financial
statements
are
materially
correct.
D
We
don't
look
at
every
transaction
within
the
city,
however,
we
do
a
risk-based
approach
to
identify
what
areas
are
susceptible
to
fraud
or
error,
and
we
plan
an
audit
to
cover
those
one
of
the
the
things
that
we
offer
is
an
independent
look
and
we
confirm
and
the
letters
you
received
as
well
as
verbally
that
we
are
independent
of
Salt
Lake
City.
We
make
great
efforts
to
make
sure
there
aren't
any
conflicts
of
interest
or
anything
and
and
we
do
comply
with
independent
standards
set
both
by
the
government,
auditing
standards
board
and
the
AICPA.
D
One
of
the
the
things
that
we
do
to
ensure
quality
in
our
audit
is
at
the
end
of
the
audit.
We
have
a
second
partner
from
outside
of
the
Utah
office
review
our
work
one
feel
like
that
adds
some
value
where
we
are
a
regional,
firm,
Mike
and
I
are
here
in
Utah
and
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
bias
or
anything
in
our
approach.
We
have
a
partner
from
outside
of
Utah
within
our
firm.
Take
a
look.
We
think
that
provides.
D
It
provides
us
assurance
that
we've
done
our
job,
but
it
also
I
think
provides
you
with
an
opportunity
to
know
that
you're
getting
a
fresh
look
each
year
at
the
process.
Those
are
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
cover
on
the
main
financial
statement:
audit
Mike
heads
up
the
compliance
audit
that
involves
federal
state
dollars
and
internal
control
and
so
I'll.
Let
him
cover
those
Thanks.
E
The
Office
of
Management
and
Budget
has
kind
of
established
the
process
that
were
required
to
follow
in
the
single
audit
or
the
audit
of
the
federal
funds.
It's
a
risk-based
approach
prescribes
that
we
divide
the
major.
Are
the
programs
federal
programs
that
the
city
receives
into
two
types:
two
buckets
based
on
size,
type,
a
being
a
larger
and
type
B
being
smaller?
E
And
then
we
assess
the
risk
of
the
various
programs
programs
that
haven't
been
audited
in
the
past
couple
of
years
become
high-risk,
and
then
we
have
to
audit
at
least
20%
of
the
federal
funds,
because
the
city
qualifies
as
a
low
risk
oddity.
If
you're
a
high
risk
oddity,
then
we'd
have
to
audit
40%
of
the
federal
funds,
but
because
you're
low
risk
oddity.
E
We
audited
the
airport
improvement
program
because
of
the
nature
of
the
construction
and
what's
going
on
out
at
the
airport,
in
the
the
volume
of
activity
and
everything
we
assess
that
one
a
little
bit
higher,
and
so
that
was
the
program
that
we
audited
this
year
and
we
issued
an
unmodified
report
on
compliance
for
the
single
audit.
So
we
didn't
have
any
findings
as
a
result
of
that,
we
went
through
that
risk-based
process.
E
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
the
process
and
selecting
our
programs
that
we
don't
audit
all
of
those
programs,
the
other
compliance
work
we
did
relates
to
state
compliance
issues.
Our
state
auditor's
office
puts
together
an
audit
guide
for
auditors
to
follow
with
the
things
that
they're
concerned
about.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
in
statute
and
some
things
the
state
auditor
feels
was
more
serious
than
others,
and
so
we
used
that
state
compliance
audit
guide
in
doing
our
audit
of
state
compliance
of
the
city
and
we
didn't
have
any
findings
there
either.
E
So
we
should
an
unmodified
report
relating
to
that.
So
there
was
a
separate
single
audit
packet
that
was
issued
and
has
been
filed
with
the
federal
audit.
Clearinghouse
is
required
that
contains
those
two
reports-
they're
not
in
the
kafir'
or
the
financial
statements.
So
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
that
it's
separate,
but
it
has
been
issued
and
should
be
available
to
you.
B
The
the
firm
just
for
anyone
who
hasn't
been
through
this
very
often
this
the
firm
I
Bailey,
is
on
contract
with
the
City
Council,
because
the
City
Council
is
a
charge
of
the
oversight
and
therefore
does
this
audit
as
part
of
the
the
oversight
they
do,
the
audits
for
all
of
the
departments.
Can
you
say
a
little
bit
about
that
you're
heading
that
direction,
I
interrupted
you
I
will.
B
So
so
I'll
just
tell
you
this
part
that
we've
been
working
toward
right
now.
The
departments
have
the
money
for
their
audits
in
their
department
budgets,
those
departments
that
are
audited
separately,
which
would
be
airport
public
utilities
and
then
separate
entities,
sort
of
would
be
airport
or
not
library
and
RDA,
and
so
right
now
those
entities
or
organizations
all
have
the
money
in
their
budgets.
B
D
Perfect
and
with
that
I
think
it's
important
to
emphasize
and
acknowledge.
Cindy
brings
up
a
great
point
that
the
while
we
spend,
thankfully,
for
you,
we
spend
the
vast
majority
of
our
time
with
management
and
not
with
you,
but
we
do
answer
to
Council
and
we're
hired
and
retained
at
your
discretion.
So
we
appreciate
that
we
appreciate
the
trust
you
put
in
our
firm
and
have
certainly
enjoyed
that
working
relationship
and
and
as
such,
make
an
open
offer.
Cindy
has
our
contact
information.
D
B
I'll
say
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
that
a
previous
council
had
us
include
in
the
contract
with
with
what
she
ever
firm.
We
have
a
contract
with,
but
in
this
case
I'd
Bailey
I
think
it
started
with
them
that
there's
a
possibility
anytime.
The
City
Council
would
like
to
engage
them
to
do
more
work
along
these
same
lines.
That's
within
their
their
scope
of
ability,
and
such
you
can
do
that.
So
we've
contemplated
that
before
the
council
hasn't
ever
actually
decided
to
engage
them
for
extra
hours,
but
it's
an
option
and
they're
available
either.
A
E
You
in
that
document,
I
alluded
to
there's
a
page
in
the
back
that
summarizes
what
that
threshold
was.
So
in
the
city's
case
this
year
there
were
26
million,
eight
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
and
federal
awards.
So
the
type
the
cutoff
between
type
A
and
type
B
programs
was
eight
hundred
and
five
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
dollars.
So
then
we
looked
at
those
programs
above
that
threshold
that
were
type
A
and
assessed
the
risk
on
them
and
we're
required
to
test
any
high-risk
Taipei's.
E
So
that,
as
we
did
our
risk
assessment,
there
were
no
high
risk
type
a's,
because
we'd
auditive
we've
got
everything
audited
on
a
three-year
cycle
so
that
they
fall
into
that
and
because
they're
automat
high-risk,
if
they
haven't
been
audited
in
the
prior
two
years,
so
that
they're
on
a
three-year
cycle
there
weren't
any
high-risk
bees,
either
all
the
programs,
the
city
has,
are
very
mature.
You
had
them
for
a
long
time
very
few
new
programs.
E
A
G
Mr.
chair
yeah
I
this
this
for
those
watching
on
TV.
This
is
about
a
petition
that
was
received
a
negative
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission.
The
petition
is
for
would
increase
building
heights
in
a
section
of
the
Gateway
mixed
use
zone
that
is
directly
across
the
street
from
the
for
one
of
better
word,
the
intermodal
hub,
the
City
Council
adopted
the
Gateway
mixed
use
zone
for
that
area
in
2017.
G
It
also
adopted
in
2018
a
when
it
acted
as
the
RT
8
board.
A
a
plan
for
the
station
center,
which
involved
the
area
around
the
intermodal
hub
I.
Think
the
council
has
three
options
it
can
choose
to
do
tonight.
The
first
two
ultimately
would
would
require
formal
action.
The
third
one
would
probably
suffice
with
a
straw
poll
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Okay,.
A
A
F
Thank
You
councilmember,
so,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
a
discuss,
a
text
amendment
to
zoning
ordinance,
which
will
allow
additional
height
in
a
portion
of
the
GMU
district.
It's
outlined
in
red
on
this
map.
It's
basically
centered
at
the
intersection
of
600,
West
and
3rd
south,
which
again
is
the
Salt
Lake,
Central,
Station
or
the
intermodal
hub.
This
would
include
privately
owned
properties,
as
well
as
properties
are
owned
by
the
RTA
and
UTA
proposals
to
allow
structures
up
to
190
feet
to
be
permitted
in
the
area
outlined
in
red.
F
Currently,
new
structures
are
allowed
at
120
feet,
if
approved
through
the
design
review
process.
It
should
be
noted,
though,
that
all
new
to
it's
in
the
gym,
you
must
be
approved
as
a
plan
development.
This
is
because,
when
the
GMU
zone
was
first
adopted
in
the
90s,
there
wasn't
a
design
review
process,
and
so
this
was
really
the
only
process
we
had.
They
would
add
a
little
scrutiny
and
have
a
had
the
Planning
Commission
review.
That
process
comments
were
requested
from
downtown
Alliance,
as
well
as
the
downtime
unity
council.
Neither
group
provided
comments.
F
H
F
Is
about
the
height
and
I
if
I
go
through
the
slide
with
you
here,
it'll
kind
of
explain
exactly
what
we're
going
for.
So
we
was
based
on
a
number
of
considerations
provided
by
staff
and
they're
contained
in
the
staff
report,
but
overall
it
was
based
on
the
adopted
master
plan
documents
for
that
area.
F
So,
on
the
top
of
the
slide,
if
you
did
an
image
which
is
showing
the
recommendation
from
the
city's
adopted
urban
design
element
that
shows
downtown
should
be
what
they
described
as
a
two
side.
Two
sided
pyramidal
form
with
the
highest
points
in
the
central
business
district
and
the
building
height
should
gradually
step
down
to
the
south
and
the
west.
F
So
in
this,
showing
obviously
the
central
business
district
on
the
right
with
its
greater
height
and
then
sloping
downwards,
as
we
get
further
and
further
away
from
the
central
business
district,
the
map
below
shows
the
permitted
Heights
in
the
zoning
districts
and
around
there.
So
the
map
shows
the
highest
permitted
Heights
in
the
CBD
at
375
feet.
F
Currently,
the
permitted
Heights
actually
does
in
general,
follow
that
pyramidal
height,
which
was
described
before,
but
if
we're
gonna
allow
taller
structures
in
the
subject
area,
it
would
certainly
go
against
this
recommendation
from
the
urban
design
element,
which
was
also
adopted
to
the
downtown
master
plan
by
allowing
190
feet
on
the
west
side
and
between
the
CBD
in
this
gateway
district.
Only
allowing
90
120
feet
and
those
different
downtown
zoning
districts,
so
I
smiley
to
come
as
well,
and
she
is
going
to
kind
of
talk
about.
I
I
Well,
the
GMU
full
like
design
review
height
of
120
feet
as
possible.
The
kind
of
base
zoning
level
height
is
90
feet
right.
So
the
idea
was
that
90
feet
85
feet
approximately
about
the
same.
The
design
standards
also
called
for
step
backs
if
the
building
was
going
to
be
over
75
feet
tall,
so
that
that
kind
of
ratio
was
maintained
between
the
street
with
two
building
height.
I
The
other
final
point
that
I'll
make
and
is
that
with
the
diagram
that
John
was
showing
about
kind
of
the
building
height
stepping
down
from
the
central
business
district.
The
idea
behind
that
was
that
we
would
have
a
mano
centric
downtown
so
that
it
was
kind
of
very
well
recognized
that,
with
a
concentration
of
tallest,
the
tallest
buildings
in
the
central
business
district,
that
that
was
kind
of
the
center,
the
kind
of
nexus
of
the
downtown
and
really
of
Salt
Lake
City.
I
F
Is
for
the
south,
the
East
is
very
specific
that
it
shouldn't
go
any
further
than
second
east,
and
then
we
shouldn't
have
any
taller
buildings.
If
you
can
imagine
this
permit
as
I
know
what
came
out
of
the
90s
when
there
was
a
real
fear
of
creep
office,
buildings
were
starting
to
show
up
on
50,
East
and
70s,
so
there
was
a
very
definitive
line,
but
so
this
plan
does
talk
about.
It
should
step
down
gradually
from
the
south
on
the
west
sides
same.
F
I
would
say
it
would
be
pretty
similar.
I,
don't
know,
there's
this
idea
that
it's
we're
gonna
have
a
perfect
ratio
from
325
down
and
also
knowing
that,
even
though
you
can
build
375
feet,
you're
not
required
to
do
that.
So,
but
I
think
the
whole
idea
is
that
it's
just
it's
just
gradual
growing.
If
you
were
kind
of
stepping
back
a
ways
that
you
could
see
that
this
is
clearly
the
center
and
that
it's
clearly
starting
to
shrink
as
it's
making
its
way
west.
So.
F
I
can't
really
speak
for
the
market,
but
I
can
say
that
there
is
a
lot
of
demand
for
growth
in
that
area,
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
reviewed
recently
planned
developments
to
add
additional
housing
there,
and
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
in
to
talk
about
additional
housing
and
housing.
Just
seems
to
be
what
we're
seeing
right
now,
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
office
and
things
like
that.
But
frankly,
nobody
is
I
haven't
had
any
discussions
where
they're
recommending
heights
above
the
120.
Most
people
aren't
even
getting
above
75
to
90
feet.
F
J
J
I'm
sensitive
to
the
sidelines,
particularly
Temple,
Square
and
then
I'll,
it's
a
topic
to
be
talking
about
elsewhere,
but
looking
at
the
structure
of
downtown,
we
have
such
a
demand
over
there.
I
didn't
know
if
that's
in
the
near
for
our
future,
to
look
at
our
growth
patterns
and
how
we
need
to
look
at
it
differently.
Maybe.
F
You
know,
and
certainly
we
may
come
to
a
different
conclusion
once
we
start
to
see
Station
Center
develop
and
how
that
neighbor
changes
and
grows,
because
I
think
we
all
want
to
see
this
24-hour.
You
know
vibrant
pedestrian
environment.
We
want
to
see
these
uses
and-
and
we
want
to
see
mixed
reviews,
so
it's
hard
to
determine
exactly
what
those
ratios
should
be
right
now,
but
I
think
as
that
neighborhood
changes,
then
certainly
the
conclusions
might
as
well.
Ok,.
G
H
F
F
I
think
that,
like
we
have,
as
we
mentioned,
the
staff
found
it,
it
didn't
meet
those
master
plans
that
we
have
in
mind
and
so
I
don't
know
that
I
would
say
that
we
would
want
to
have
any
any
specific
areas
that
we
want
to
target
for
height
that
that
that
exceeds
where
that
goes
up,
290
feet,
but
there's
opportunities
for
other
areas,
just
north
and
south.
No.
I
Today's
the
third
zoning
that
I
feel
like
has
a
little
bit
larger
of
a
scale,
so
the
the
area
in
kind
of
the
brighter
purple
color,
is
the
GMU
zone
and
the
maximum
height
that
can
be
achieved
there
through
the
current
zoning
is
a
hundred
and
twenty
feet
that
is
through
the
Planning
Commission's
design
review
process.
So
as
of
right,
you
can
go
in
and
get
a
building
permit.
K
Sometimes
were-
or
it
seems
sometimes
we're
stuck
in
in
certain
ways
in
and
how
things
are
changing
so
fast
development
in
your
city
and
your
needs
and
our
goals
that
we
have,
for
you,
know
four
years
of
public
transit
and
make
it
more
convenient,
sometimes
I
feel
like
we
might
be
too
rigid
and
I.
Think
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
applicant
as
well.
K
What
is
it
exactly
they're
proposing
why
in
this
area
and
and
see,
if
there's
any
flexibility
that
we
would
consider
because
it
you
know,
we
definitely
welcome
development
and
in
specially
so
close
to
two
to
transit.
So
that's
what
I'm
like
struggling
a
little
bit,
you
know.
I
know
we
have
plans
and
I
know
how
we're
envisioning
our
downtown.
But
things
are,
you
know
things
that
we
thought
five
years
ago
might
not
apply
today,
and
so
how
can
we
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible?
So
that's
that's
my
usual
comment.
Well,.
A
L
I'm
Nathan
Rick's
with
stack
real
estate
or
a
developer
of
primarily
tech,
oriented
office
buildings.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
Lehigh.
We've
built
14
buildings
there
in
the
last
10
years,
a
couple
million
square
feet
and
we
understand
what
tech
companies
they're
looking
for
in
terms
of
office
space.
L
L
There's
a
quarter
mile
radius
and
I
appreciated
councilman,
Valda
Morris
comment
just
a
moment
ago
about
how
fast
things
are
changing
and
what
we
want
to
be
is
we
want
to
be
sustainable?
We
want
to
be
green.
We
want
to
take
cars
off
the
road
we
want
to
create
walkable
transit,
oriented
communities,
we
want
to
reduce
air
pollution
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
sustainable
and
that's
really
the
the
basis
here.
L
If
you
have
a
quarter
mile
ring
around
a
transit
station,
we
feel
like
that
should
be
densified
as
much
as
possible,
because
the
more
people
that
can
live
there
and
work
there.
The
more
cars
we're
going
to
take
off
the
road
and
the
more
walkable
and
sustained
and
healthy.
We
make
the
community,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
that
quarter-mile
ring
is
all
about
around
the
existing
intermodal
hub
we'd
like
to
show
you,
as
we
talk
about
this
a
little.
L
This
is
kind
of
like
two
half
blocks
and
all
the
festival
street
running
from
Rio
Grande
on
fifth
west,
all
the
way
to
intermodal
hub
on
on
sixth
west,
and
we
love
the
vision
that
we
heard
the
mayor
espouse
in
this
conference
two
weeks
ago,
three
weeks
ago
about
attracting
tech
companies
and
lamenting
that
there's
six
of
them
at
the
point
of
the
mountain
and
not
one
here
in
downtown
Salt
Lake,
and
we
want
to
change
that.
We
get
that
vision.
L
We
we
think
that
the
existing
office
stock
is
not
actually
conducive
to
what
tech
companies
are
looking
for.
We
think
that
there
needs
to
be
an
area
that
will
attract
these
kind
of
companies
that
will
have
the
kind
of
product
they're
looking
for
to
recruit
and
retain
the
talent
that
is
right
here
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
reverse
commuting
from
downtown
Salt
Lake,
where
they
live
to
Lehigh,
where
we've
built
buildings
to
work
at
tech
companies.
L
If
those
options
were
here,
we
think
a
lot
of
those
people
would
rather
stay
here
and
they'd
rather
work
here,
and
so
we
have
acquired
a
99
year
lease
on
the
blue
portion
of
this
map.
That's
three
and
a
quarter
acres
of
the
Nicholas
family
property
and
we
have
designed
a
building
for
that.
But
we
would
actually
like
to
talk
about.
You
know
the
entire
block
we'd,
like
to
kind
of
show
you
our
vision
of
what
we
think
can
happen.
L
190
feet
or
120
feet
is
going
to
limit
us
to
four
and
five
storey,
potentially
six
storey
residential
buildings.
They
may
not
have
very
tall
lobbies,
it'll,
certainly
limit
us
on
an
office
building
that
has
a
typical
14
foot
florida
floor
height
to
a
much
smaller
building
to
six
stories,
perhaps
well
the
markets
going
to
lie.
We
asked
for
higher
than
that,
and
so
this
is
a
vision
showing
some
buildings
at
12
stories.
Summit
8.
This
is
a
transit,
stop
Central
Park
station
in
Denver.
L
Ok,
so
that's
an
example
of
something
that
we
would
hope
to
create
and
we
love
the
festival.
Street
concept,
that's
already
been
approved.
You
know
improvements
there.
We
don't
necessarily
agree.
Obviously,
with
the
height
limit.
We
don't
think
the
buildings
have
to
be
exactly
as
wide
as
the
street
is.
Certainly
that's
not
the
case.
L
In
the
d1
zone
we
don't
have
350
or
400
foot
wide
streets,
so
the
human
scale
element
that
was
referenced
really
happens
in
the
first
20
feet
of
the
streetscape,
and
so
that's
why
you
know
we
we've
planned
to
address
that
with
hire
first
floors.
Restaurants
and
shops
lined
along
the
first
floors
of
these
types
of
buildings.
This
is
development
that
is
just
west
of
Union,
Station
and
Denver.
L
You've,
probably
all
seen
this
or
been
there
20
story,
buildings
residential
towers,
many
of
them
there's
great
office
space
down
there
lots
of
vibrancy
restaurants
bars
grocery
stores,
everything
you
would
need
to
live
and
sustain
yourself
right
there,
that's
very
much
what
could
happen
west
of
goryeo
grande?
You
know
it
could
be
a
much
more
dense
environment
that
would
help
us
be
more
green.
This
is
in
Tampa
Bay.
Another
image
that
you
can
see
similar
to
Festival
Street
kind
of
going
down.
L
The
middle
they've
got
a
more
width
they're
a
little
bit
of
a
Plaza
but
again
12
story
buildings.
You
know
8
story,
buildings,
15
story,
buildings
and
20
20
in
the
back
there,
maybe
20,
plus
this
is
Portland.
There's
some
five-story
residential
there
with
a
10
story
in
the
back
that
you
can
see,
transit
right
there
and
just
to
make
a
note
most
of
the
actual.
L
You
very
much
we
appreciate
that.
Well,
we'll
stay
within
that.
This
next
slide
is
a
concept
that
we
have
tried
to
show
it
a
few
people
to
expand
this
from
the
three
and
a
quarter:
acres
of
the
Nicholas
property,
the
Sun,
that's
out
the
northwest
corner
of
this
block
46
to
include
the
entire
block.
As
you
are
aware,
the
RDA
owns
a
majority
of
the
rest
of
the
block.
The
state
owns
another
big
chunk
of
that
block,
there's
one
other
landowner
and
private
landowner
besides
ourselves.
L
To
give
it
that
variation
and
very
interesting
architectural
design,
mid
block,
you
can
see
open
space,
which
is
on
the
property
that
we
have,
and
we
would
we've
proposed
that
as
tech
companies
want,
they
want
a
place
for
people
to
go
out
and
recreate
play.
Volleyball
shoot
some
hoops,
you
know,
throw
a
frisbee
or
just
get
outside
and
relax.
That's
something
they're
looking
for.
If
all
we
have
is
just
a
building,
and
that's
it
not
as
attractive
to
these
companies,
they
got
to
retain
and
recruit
and
retain
these
employees.
L
The
the
bottom
right
corner
of
this
Green
is
residential
for
the
rest
of
fifth
fifth
west
and
then
fronting
on
4th
south
and
then
there's
another
proposed.
Smaller
shorter
building
in
the
bottom
left
corner
would
be
an
office,
and
the
kind
of
orange
in
between
those
two
buildings
along
six
west
would
be
a
hotel
that
we
would
propose
there
120
room
hotel
right
across
from
the
station.
So
the
the
big
piece
on
the
the
south
of
the
block.
There
is
a
joint
parking
structure,
so
we
can
share
parking.
L
We
can
share
parking
between
residential
between
hotel
and
between
office.
So
we
make
really
good
use
of
the
kind
of
parking
that
parking
is
suggested
to
be
pushed
up
against
the
viaduct,
which
is
the
least
desirable
part
of
the
of
the
block,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
hide
in
one
side
of
the
viaduct
and
then
we
front
the
other
sides
of
it.
What's
really
nice
kind
of
brownstone
townhome
type
product,
that's
makes
a
really
nice
Street
right
through
the
middle
there.
L
If
you
look
at
Market,
Street
and
bisecting,
the
block
got
brown
stones
on
both
sides
of
that
a
open,
Green
Park.
You
know
coming
down
towards
the
station,
and
so
this
is
this
is
what
should
be
done?
You
know
it's.
It's
interesting
that
you
can
go.
Okay,
well,
we
could.
We
could
build
on
the
three
and
a
quarter
acres.
L
We
have
and
just
do
something,
but
we
get
one
chance
to
do
this
and
we're
within
that
quarter
mile
ring,
and
we
really
think
that
over
time,
if
you
look
at
Denver,
you
look
at
Portland,
you
look
at
Vancouver,
you
look
at
Dallas,
you
look
at
all
these
cities,
there's
not
height
restrictions
around
the
Tod
sites,
wherever
there's
a
functioning
frontrunner
or
or
in
our
case
frontrunner
or
a
track
station.
You
see
these
little.
You
know
jutting
up
of
height
and
density
around
those
stations
and
that's
the
way
it
should
be.
L
You
know
we
should
take
advantage
of
the
literally
massive
investment
that
the
state
and
UTA
have
made
in
transit
so
that
we
can.
We
can
green
it
up
and
we
can
reduce
cars
on
the
road.
We
can
improve
air
quality
and
we
can
make
more
walkable
transit
oriented
communities,
and
that's
that's
really
our
goal
at
stack
real
estate.
We're
focused
on
that
we've.
We've
worked
on
three
of
these
already
and
we
hope
to
work
on
many
more
with
with
UTA.
K
L
Just
it's
just
more
market-driven.
If
you
look
at
the
very
front
page
of
what
we've
handed
out
to
you,
that
was
a
unicorn.
That's
a
company!
That's
based
here
in
Utah,
this
valued
of
well
over
a
billion
dollars.
They
just
raise
money
from
insight
partners
that
more
than
a
billion
valuation
they're
mentioned
in
every
finance
every
FinTech
conference.
I
mean
this
is
a
great
company
and
we
brought
the
CEO
here
into
the
city
and
we
said
hey:
can
we
move
quick?
Can
we
get
the
building
these
guys
want?
They
want
a
12
story.
L
L
Bottom
line
is
it's
market
driven
and
when
these
companies
show
up
we've
got
to
be
ready.
You
know,
that's
why
we're
continuing
through
this
process,
even
though
we've
lost
this
particular
tenant
that
wanted
to
build
that
beautiful
building
right
across
from
the
station,
because
we
need
to
be
ready
for
the
next
one
and
we
got
to
make
sure
that
we
can
hit
the
timelines.
L
You
know
and
their
aggressive
timelines
typically
and
these
buildings,
like
that
or
minimum
20
months,
to
construct,
yeah
right,
and
so
the
last
thing
we
wanted
to
say
is
we
we
want
to
pursue
this
through.
We
would
recommend
and
hope
you
to
support
us
and
approving
this
change.
You
know
schedule
a
public
hearing
where
you
could
approve
this
text
amendments
so
that
we
can
at
least
start
there.
L
Let's
get
let's
get
ready,
so
we
can
do
ten
and
twelve
story
buildings
and
then,
as
people
get
more
comfortable,
we
can
pursue
maybe
a
bigger,
Tod
type
plan.
Maybe
you
guys
can
work
with
UTA
and
you
can
figure
out
that
whole
area
and
we
can
say
great
20
stories
great.
You
know
it
shouldn't
be
the
zoning
that
Wims
thought
it'd
be
the
market
that
limits
how
high
people
want
to
go
in
what
they
want
to
do
and
I'm
a
believer
that
the
the
big
ones,
the
googles,
the
Amazons.
L
You
know
the
the
tech
companies
that
are
out
there
that
are
expanding
in
New,
York
and
DC
and
Toronto
and
like
Seattle
in
Austin
Texas,
and
these
people
have
run
out
of
talent
in
the
Bay
Area,
so
they're
making
billions
of
dollars
investments
in
these
cities.
We
should
be
on
that
list.
You
know
we
should
be
ready
so
that
we're
welcoming
and
we're
like
yeah
we're
ready
for
you
guys.
We
want
you
to
come
here,
councilmember.
J
Thanks
for
the
presentation
in
the
the
handouts,
I
hear
you're,
saying
about
being
ready
and
responding
to
the
market.
Essentially
talk
to
me
about
sunshine,
about
livability
about
streetscapes
I
mean
that
the
zoning
was
set
up
for
sight
lines
to
some
extent
for
the
city,
but
I
think
there
are
things
that
could
be
different
to
live
in
the
place,
a
12-story
building
angled.
The
way
you
are
doesn't
block
sunshine,
the
wintertime
for
a
third
west
as
much
as
you
did
since
May
right.
L
Those
could
be
tall,
they
could
block
sunshine
for
a
part
of
the
day.
But
if
you
have
these
pocket
parks
that
we've
suggested
on
this
full
block
design,
you
have
open
spaces
where
people
can
actually
congregate.
Where
we
get
a
break
from
that
density,
then
then
that's
really
creates
the
livability
of
the
actual
developments.
You
know
those
pocket
parks
in
those
open
spaces,
even
small
quarter,
acre
pieces
and
stuff
really
important
in
terms
of
just
keeping
that
vegetation,
the
greenery
the
the
human
scale.
If.
H
I
could
interject
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt?
Oh,
it's,
okay,
but
if
I
could
interject
just
in
terms
of
urban
design
and
what
is
being
built
into
the
block
design,
let's
say
for
for
this
proposal
is
similar
to
downtown,
where
we're
we're,
placing
taller
buildings
actually
anchoring
the
corners
and
then
the
mid
block
areas
are
actually
receded
in
height
down
to
a
hundred
feet,
allowing
sunlight
to
get
through
in
the
center
block
areas,
while
still
keeping
the
the
building
of
the
corners
anchored,
and
so
we
kind
of
get
get
the
best
of
both
worlds.
H
This
is
a
way
you
could
look
at
it.
The
whole
idea
of
creating
human
scale
elements
down
20
feet
above
the
sidewalk
plane
and
having
glass
lines
along
there
make
it
very
livable.
It
also
is
right
in
line
with
allowing
for
a
residential
development
to
happen,
so
there's
24/7
enlightenment
that
happens
in
terms
of
livability.
A
L
L
Yeah,
you
know
we
we're
in
this
kind
of
strange
spot
in
Utah
right
now
where
people
still
drive
their
car
to
work
a
lot,
but
as
they
get
more
and
more
used
to
transit
because
it's
convenient
and
it's
close
to
them.
It
starts
to
change.
And
so
then
future
development
in
the
area
can
continue
to
use
the
stalls
that
are
constructed
as
people
could
write
the
terrain
more
and
more
and
more
so.
We've
had
that
same
issue
in
South
Jordan.
L
We
just
completed
those
two
new
buildings
right
on
I-15
that
are
the
a
moment
and
lucid
building
and
the
avanti
building
and
there's
a
hotel
there,
and
so
all
of
that
on
12
acres.
You
know
360
thousand
feet
of
office,
292
rooms
and-
and
we
have
2,000
parking
stalls
there
and
over
time,
that
that
usage
of
parking
will
drop
over
time.
We
believe
because
of
frontrunner,
so
we
can
build
more
buildings
and
have
less
parking.
H
My
question
is:
if
I
look
at
this
map
and
the
current
lease
that
you
have
on
the
property
is
if
I
look
at
your
plan
here
is
for
the
12
story,
office
I'm.
Looking
at
this
this
one
here,
the
one
you've
got
out
right,
so
you've
got
basically
the
two-story
office
parking,
the
six
story:
mixed-use
residential
of
a
retail
to
open
space,
the
seven
story
hotel
and
then
this
the
three
story:
superblock
shared
parking
structure,
right,
correct!
That's
currently
what
you
have
under
well.
H
H
This
figure
out
a
way
to
move
this
word
because
currently
in
Station,
Center
I
know
we're.
Looking
at
we've
got
investment
money
that
we're
looking
at
throwing
out
there
I'm
looking
at
RTA
people,
but
do
we
currently
have
any
permits
on
hand
for
station
center?
Is
there
anything
we
don't
have
a
current
building
plan
at
all
in
station
center
and
we're
talking
about
catalytic
projects
right?
H
So
for
me
it
it
would
be
imperative
for
us
to
look
at
with
the
RTA
and
looking
at
making
something
happen
with
this
project,
so
that
it
does
spur
that
catalytic
development
that
we're
looking
at
so
I,
don't
want
to
say:
hey,
let's
look
at
it
and
kick
it
back,
but
for
me
personally,
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
RTA
and
bring
them
to
the
table
to
look
at
what
we're
what
we
can
do
legally
well,
as
well
as
make
this
project
in
station
center
really
carry
forward.
I
mean
for
me.
H
If
we
go
back
to
the
quarter
mile
map,
the
Rio
Grande
building
isn't
going
anywhere,
it's
50s,
it's
50
feet
tall!
So
there's
nothing
that
if
you're
looking
at
it
that's
going
to
be
blocked
there
and,
if
you're,
looking
to
the
west,
its
the
intermodal
hub
right.
So
I
think
this
is
what
we're
looking
at,
but
I
want
to
get
back
to,
like
I,
said
the
legal
questions
and
what
we're
doing,
if
we're
gonna
cause
some
more
problems
than
it's
worth,
but
also
get
back
to
the
RTA
and
focus
on
this
bigger
project.
Just.
C
One
quick
point
of
clarification:
we're
showing
you
a
whole
block
design
just
for
purposes
of
if
we
can
bring
all
the
parties
together
and
develop
one
block
at
one
time
altogether.
We
know
that
we
control
3.24
acres
and
we
can
do
what
we
want
to
do
on
just
our
piece,
there's
just
trade-offs
right
and.
H
L
We
just
need
to
do
this
text
amendment
so
at
least
we
can
get
ready.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
miss
another
one
of
these
because
they
don't
come
along
every
day
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
perform.
We
need
to
be
able
to
literally
come
in
and
pull
it
permit,
because
the
zoning
is
all
done
and
we
can
go.
You
bet.
We
know
what
the
timelines
are.
These
companies
have
leases
that
are
expiring,
where
they're
currently
at
they've
got
Windows.
A
H
A
F
M
H
A
H
A
N
C
N
C
C
That
said
meeting
with
our
owners
and
saying:
okay,
what
do
we?
What
do
we
do
here
for
a
from
a
block
standpoint?
The
feedback
we
got
from
the
CEO
and
we
came
in
from
Galileo-
was
what's
happening
on
the
rest
of
the
block,
and
when
is
that
going
to
develop
I,
don't
want
to
be
an
island
I,
don't
want
to
be
the
only
thing
there
for
the
next
ten
years.
What's
the
timing
of
it
and
what
what
are
you
gonna
do,
and
so
we
want
to
provide
answers.
L
L
Advantage
of
the
full
block
design
is
that
we
have
that
really
nice
Park
in
the
middle,
that
if
we
don't
do
that
and
it's
just
our
parcel,
then
gets
consumed
in
a
whole
parking
structure.
So
we
can
park
the
building.
You
know
and
that's
the
advantage
of
like
when
the
CEOs
come
in
and
these
tech
companies
they're
they're
asking
what
are
the
amenities
you
know.
What's
the
green
space,
you
know
you
know
where
can
I
eat?
Where
do
my
people
go?
I
mean
you
know,
transit
solved,
that's
right!
K
What
I
hear
me
we,
you
know,
we
District
four
welcomes
development
and
I
and
as
a
planner
you
know
the
planners
have
gone
through
great
lengths
in
putting
these
plans
together
and
go
through
a
whole
process.
So
this
these
properties
here
are
have
been
sown
a
certain
way
for
a
long
time.
So
it
seems
like
I'm,
not
sure,
maybe
I'm
mistaken,
but
it
seems
like
there
was
no.
K
What
you
call
like
asking
the
other
property
owners.
I
already
know
what
they
have
in
its
or
from
you
guys
so
say:
hey
we're
planning
on
this.
What
do
you
guys
think
and
can
we
kind
of
package
it
together
as
a
group
so
that
we
can
get
this
height?
You
know
this
height
that
we
need
because,
right
now
it
seems
like
you,
you
have
a
co-listing,
you
know
vision
and
that's
great,
but
we
really
have
plans
for
that
area
and
that's
okay
like
we
can.
We
can
work
in
together
right.
K
I
You
chair
in
person,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
to
your
question
council
vent
councilmember
valdemar's.
The
proposal
is
not
just
for
the
single
parcel.
It
is
for
all
of
the
parcels
that
front
along
3rd
south
in
that
section,
so
they
have
thought
comprehensively
about
beyond
just
the
parcel
that
they
have
an
option
on,
but
the
but
the
larger
area.
So
we
are
thinking
larger
than
that,
though
it
would
not
impact
all
of
the
GMU
and
I
think.
G
I
I
I
mean
it
has
gone
through
iteration
after
iteration
after
iteration,
so
there's
there
is
a
newer,
larger
station
center
plan
that
it
thinks
beyond
just
these
RTA
owned
properties
with
that
was
done
in
conjunction
with
UTA
in
2018,
but
this
is
I
was
earlier,
referring
to
the
the
previous
plans
that
just
already
a
did
for
the
RTA
properties
and
thinking
comprehensively
about
those
two.
Those
two
blocks
in
particular
and.
G
H
G
Scale,
pedestrian
environment
could
be
maintained
by
requiring
or
encouraging
building
setbacks.
Once
a
certain
height
is
reached,
the
RDA
would
encourage
the
council
to
reconsider
the
proposed
boundary
for
the
proposed
height.
It
is
not
apparent
how
the
boundary
was
chosen
and
the
RDA
owns
vacant
properties
to
the
immediate
north
and
south.
That
could
benefit
from
an
increased
height
allowance.
It
may
make
sense
for
the
council
to
explore
the
feasibility
of
permitted
permitting
additional
building
height.
Therefore,
density
in
more
parts
of
the
GMU
zone,
especially
areas
closer
to
I-15
and
the
intermodal
hub.
B
I
just
want
to
check
with
the
council
here,
based
on
all
of
your
comments.
I
just
want
to
run
this
by
you
combining
your
comments
with
the
Planning
Commission
recommendation,
so
try
to
frame
the
planning
briefing
a
little
bit
in
a
way.
It
sounds
like
this
text
amendment
proposal.
Without
further
discussion.
It
could
be
person
and
it
sounds
like
you
are
going
to
have
further
discussion.
So
that's
good,
but
it
could
be
looked
at
as
almost
amending
the
whole
plan
for
Salt
Lake
City
by
approving.
B
If,
if
you
were
to
just
approve
this
text,
amendment
without
comprehensive
discussion,
so
I
think
it's
great
for
you
to
have
a
discussion,
and
then
so
maybe
you
could.
We
could
ask
planning
to
address
that
because
they're
in
an
awkward
spot
needing
to
come
in
and
have
a
discussion
when
they
have
their
direction
from
the
Planning
Commission.
But
if
we
ask
them
give
us
give
us
your
thoughts
on
that
and
then
also
the
other
thing.
I
heard
was
the
transit
station
area
height?
B
How
can
that
relate
to
the
downtown
height,
and
is
there
room
for
transit
area
corners
and
such
to
be
taller
than
is
allowed?
So
then,
just
balancing
the
city's
overall
planning
with
this
request
and
the
idea
of
the
nodes
by
the
transit
stations
is
that
is
there
any
part
of
that?
What
I
said
that
makes
sense.
K
K
L
L
H
C
G
K
K
A
B
As
staff,
what
I
think
we're
doing
is
coordinating
with
the
RDA
chair
and
staff
to
either
set
up
small
group
meetings
or
an
aboard
agenda
item,
and
then
also
we
are
setting
up
time
with
planning
for
them
to
come
back
for
the
briefing
that
you've
talked
about
and
then
from
there.
What
would
happen
is
the
petition
would
be
open
and
the
goal
would
be
to
get
those
pieces
of
information
together
so
that
the
council
can
determine
when
to
set
a
hearing
that
type
of
a
thing.
B
Well,
you
can.
The
hard
part
is
that
sometimes
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time,
just
based
on
your
schedules
to
get
that
information
or
get
you
into
those
meetings.
It's
up
to
you,
I
mean
you
probably
need
to
be
safe
to
set
it.
You
couldn't
set
it
any
earlier
than
the
last
meeting
in
February.
Probably
if.
N
N
Mean
I
think
that
it's
a
decision
that
needs
to
be
made
there's
a
there's,
a
bunch
of
other
policy
issues
involved
in
this
but
as
in
my
opinion,
I'm
not
opposed
to
more
density
and
higher
height.
But
there
is
some
information
we
need
to
get
and
there's
certainly
some
policy
questions
that
we
need
to
have
to
have
answered.
N
But
the
question
itself
of
the
text,
amendment
I
think
at
least
we
could
put
on
a
couple
of
months
down
the
road
that
would
that
would
be
my
suggestion
to
at
least
put
a
placeholder
hearing
of
to
three
months.
Whatever
timing,
I
think
staff
think
would
be
would
say,
was
most
yeah,
probably
most
appropriate
or
at
least
put
a
pin
in
it
and
say
that
we're
gonna
really
set
that
hearing
date
sometime
soon.
Well,.
B
What
we
could
do
is
we
have
to
check
on
the
advertising.
We
can
do
that
quickly.
I,
don't
think
we
have
it
Oh
tonight
we
don't
have
any
action
meeting,
so
you
can
have
come
back
to
you
with
the
advertising
information
and
then
check
we'll
check
with
our
DEA
staff
and
planning
staff
and
set
it
probably
for
sometime
in
February
or
early
March.
Well,
you'll
decide.
B
J
J
G
H
A
G
B
P
P
You
know,
expansions
moving
a
line
when
a
road
is
changed
or
something
like
that,
and
so
that
type
of
thing
also
charitable,
giving
policy
stuff.
You
know
working
with
the
sustainability
team
here,
the
city
working
closely
with
them,
so
that's
kind
of
what
I
do
and
I'm
relatively
new
to
this
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
few
minutes
to
give
you
an
update
both
on
kind
of
our
service
profile
in
the
city
and
I've
talked
a
little
bit
to
the
chair
and
to
I'm
Andru
about
this.
P
The
vice-chair
sorry,
the
but
I'll
go
over
it
again
briefly
and
if
you
guys
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
stop
me
and
then
I
want
to
go
over
our
20-year
integrated
resource
plan
which,
in
its
totality,
is
pretty
dry
I'll
focus
on
the
renewables
piece
which
I
think
is
may
be
of
interest
to
you,
and
you
can
ask
me
any
questions
that
you
want
on
that
I'm,
pretty
conversing
with
it.
Okay,
so
in
Salt,
Lake
City
we
serve
95,000
customers
and
96
thousand
really
and
Salt.
P
Lake
City
consumes
3.2
million
kilowatt
hours
of
energy
a
year,
so
your
peak
load
is
like
8
or
900
megawatts,
which
is
about
13%
of
Utah's
total
load,
which
is
42
Utah's.
Total
load
is
about
42
percent
of
our
total
system
load.
Just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
Salt
Lake
City
fits
into
the
bigger
picture,
two-thirds
of
the
load
in
Salt
Lake
City,
certainly
not
two-thirds
are
the
customers,
but
two-thirds
of
the
load
is
of
the
electrical
load
is
commercial
and
then
the
remaining
load
is
roughly
split
between
industrial
and
residential
customers.
P
The
next
blit
here
is
the
municipal
energy
municipal
energy
sales
tax,
which
is
a
up
to
6
percent
tax
that
we
layer
on
to
our
rates
and
a
line
item
where
it
calls
it
out
where
customers
essentially
pay
6
percent
on
top
of
their
energy
bill,
and
we
receive
that
and
pass
it
on
to
the
to
the
cities
where
we
serve
an
administrative
fee
that
is
marginal,
and
that
comes
to
about
sixteen
point.
Three:
five
million
a
year
for
Salt
Lake
City,
that
was
the
twenty
eighteen
figure.
P
We
provide
a
lot
of
incentives.
We've
got
what
we
call
our
customer
solutions,
Department,
and
so
we
have-
and
it's
part
of
our
integrated
resource
plan
which
I'll
get
to
in
a
few
minutes.
We
have
targets
that
are
identified
by
our
regulators,
but
they're
not
arbitrarily
identified
by
our
regulators.
They're
identified
the
targets
for
energy
efficiency.
Investment
are
identified
on
on
a
sort
of
a
based
on
a
cost
metric
to
fit
into
our
broader
resource
portfolio,
and
so
in
a
typical
year
in
Utah.
We
might,
we
might
try
to
you
know
we
have.
P
Salt
Lake
City
received
about
$30,000
in
in
incentives
for
its
facilities
from
us
just
in
2018,
and
so
that's
I
think
that
was
a
bit
of
an
outlier.
It
was.
It
was
a
big
year
for
incentives,
but
we
could
focus
more
on
that.
If
we
wanted
to
in
the
future,
I
thought
that
you
might
be
interested
in
seeing
the
level
of
participation
in
our
voluntary
renewable
energy
programs.
It's
low,
or
at
least
it'll,
appear
low
to
you.
It's
actually
high.
P
You
know
by
comparison
with
other
municipalities,
but
four
percent
of
commercial
and
industrial
customers
participate
in
those
elective
programs
and
about
12
percent
of
residential
customers
and
then
you'll
see
below
that
about
two
and
a
half.
2.6
percent
of
customers
in
the
city
have
have
rooftop
solar,
which
we
effectively
subsidized
through
our
net
metering
program,
and
it's
just
a
program
that
we
could
talk
about.
I
mean
that's
another.
That's
a
three
hour
presentation
if
you'd
like
to
schedule
me
for
that
on
a
different
day.
P
A
P
And
you
know
it's
interesting:
we
look
at
these
numbers
sometimes
and
think
about
them
in
the
context
of
HB
411.
The
community
Renewable
Energy
Act
is
an
opt-out
program
and
there's
a
big
Delta.
You
know
we
don't
know
and
we're
waiting
for
the
city
to
really
assess
make
an
assessment
of
what
they
believe.
The
opt-out
rate
will
look
like
for
that
program,
and
you
know
I
would
never
come
into
this
room
and
suggest
you
that
it's
gonna
be
88
percent
residential
opt
out.
But
what
is
that
number?
P
And
and
and
what
does
the
fact
that
only
twelve
percent
of
residential
customers
in
Salt
Lake
City
have
opted?
You
know,
have
elected
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
for
renewables.
What
does
that
say
if
anything
about
what
that
opt-out
is
going
to
look
like
and
I?
Don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
we
need.
P
We
need
the
city's
input
on
that
at
some
point
and
and
there's
a
process,
that's
gonna
play
out
over
the
next
twelve
months
or
so
that'll
help
us
get
there
I
think
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
talk
about
the
people
who
run
our
foundation
and
then
I
do
some.
You
know
this
first
line,
the
three
hundred
and
thirty
seven
thousand
dollars,
that's
a
foundation
that
we
run
and
I
kind
of
administer
it
for
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
then
the
RMP
contributions.
P
That's
the
money
that
I
that
I
put
out
through
contributions
to
various
events
or
activities
or
programs
that
nonprofits
do
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
for
you
what
some
of
those
are
I
mean.
This
is
maybe
20
percent
of
the
or
probably
more
than
that.
Maybe
a
third
of
the
organizations
that
we
support
in
a
given
year.
So
I
just
highlight
a
few
that
you
might
care
about.
P
Integrated
resource
plan
so
I
call
it
the
20-year
plan
because
I
don't
want
to
burden
you
with
the
phrase
and
then
I've
done
it.
Nevertheless,
it's
a
process
that
we
undertake
every
two
years,
but
really
we
undertake
it
every
year,
because
we
produce
an
integrated
resource
plan
on
a
two-year
cycle,
but
every
off
year
we
produce
an
update
to
that
plan
which
doesn't
you
know,
create
all
kinds
of
different
modeling
scenarios
it.
P
It
retains
the
ones
from
the
integrated
resource
plan
that
it's
updating,
but
it
just
sort
of
updates
the
data
based
on
new
wholesale
energy,
Castes,
natural
gas
price
forecasts
and
other
risk
adjustments
and
things
so
every
two
years.
We
do
this
process
and
it
takes
most
of
the
two
years
and
it's
a
an
intensive
process
with
dozens
of
stakeholders
across
six
states.
P
We
do
detailed
analysis
of
all
the
resources
available
to
us
of
all
the
you
know,
associated
transmission
that
might
be
required
to
build
those
resources
out
and
how
the
burden
of
that
transmission
cost
would
affect
the
viability
of
that
resource
or
the
desirability
of
that
resource.
We
have
load
forecasts
for
all
of
our
different
states
and
all
of
our
different
customer
classes.
P
The
the
latter
of
fifteen
years
of
that
20-year
plan
are
kind
of
very
much
up
in
the
air,
but
the
first
five
years.
We
put
an
action
plan
together
for
those
and
we
in
many
cases,
within
a
month
of
publishing
the
RP
or
a
couple
of
months
of
publishing
the
RP
we're
issuing
RFPs
to
procure
the
resources
that
we've
identified
in
those
plans.
P
So
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
five-year
plan
because
it's
real
because
people
are
working
on
it
now,
on
the
you
know,
nights
and
weekends,
and
if
they
don't
deliver
the
resources
I'm
about
to
describe,
they
won't
get
their
bonuses
in
2021,
2022
I
mean
it's
real
for
us
going
after
these
resources.
Of
course,
we
have
to
get
them
approved
at
all
of
our
Commission's,
but
this
is
a
serious
proposition
for
us,
so
in
2020
our
generation
portfolio
on
a
capacity
basis,
not
an
energy
basis,
is
about
thirty
percent
coal.
P
That's
where
we
are
today,
which
is
about
5,700
megawatts
of
coal,
on
our
system
of
about
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
megawatts
of
total
resources
owned
and
not
owned,
because
we
contract
on
a
long
term
basis
for
certain
resources.
Gas
makes
up
20
percent
of
our
portfolio
today,
renewables
make
up
twenty
four
hydro,
5%
and
then
efficiency,
investments,
essentially
direct
load
control
and
purchases,
make
up
the
remainder
of
our
capacity
portfolio.
The
way
we
serve
our
customers
over
the
next
four
years.
P
So
by
the
end
of
twenty
twenty
three
we're
gonna
acquire
sixty
five
hundred
megawatts
of
new
renewables,
which
will
more
than
double
the
current
renewable
portfolio
that
we
have
and
about
triple
the
portfolio
of
owned
renewables
that
we
have,
assuming
that
we
own
most
of
the
resources
that
we
build
out
in
that
sixty
five
hundred
megawatts
it
could
be
a
mix
of
owned
and
non
owned.
So
it's
a
significant
investment.
P
It's
it's
more
significant
than
just
about
any
utility
plan
for
renewable
adoption
and
the
acceleration
of
renewable
adoption
that
I've
seen
anywhere
so
thirty,
five
hundred
megawatts
of
new
wind
and
three
thousand
megawatts
of
new
solar
in
the
next
four
years
and
the
four
years
is
valuable.
I
said
it
was
a
five-year
plan,
but
now
I'm
talking
four
years.
P
The
four
years
is
because
that's
the
the
current
calendar,
by
which
a
lot
of
the
federal
incentives
go
away,
so
we've
got
to
deliver
the
resources
that
we
that
our
plan
tells
us
are
the
best
resources
for
our
customers.
We
gotta
deliver
I'm,
not
a
five
year
window,
but
a
four
your
window
in
order
to
in
order
for
them
to
be
as
cost-effective
as
we
think
they
ought
to
be
3,000
megawatts
of
new
solar
and
then
for
every
hundred
megawatts
of
new
solar.
P
We
put
on
the
system
we're
going
to
add
megawatts
of
coincident
storage
product,
probably
lithium-ion
batteries,
so
that
when
you
know
the
production
curve
of
solar,
whereas
wind
the
production
curve
looks
like
this.
It's
very
erratic
throughout
the
whole
course
of
the
day.
Solar
is
not
eradicate,
goes
like
this
and
our
load,
whereas
Solar
goes
like
this.
P
Our
load
is
here
right
when
Solar
drops
off
our
peak
load
for
the
day,
and
so
the
value
of
those
batteries
with
solar,
going
coincident
with
solar
is
that
we're
able
to
essentially
shave
off
the
top
of
that
load
production
of
that
resource
and
shift
it
forward
a
couple
of
hours
to
coincide
with
the
time
of
day,
where
it's
most
valuable
to
our
customers.
So
we're
thinking
about
how
to
best
deploy
these
these
newer
technologies
to
benefit
our
customers
so
over
the
next
20
years.
P
The
the
number
of
new
renewable
resources
is
more
like
what
11,000
megawatts
in
total,
that's
inclusive
of
the
6500
in
the
first
five
years
and
then
significant
battery
storage.
I,
don't
speak
to
new
coal
here,
because
there
will
never
be
new
coal
I,
don't
speak
to
new
renewable!
It's
a
new
gas
here,
because
I
came
here
to
get
you
excited
about
renewable
energy,
but
we
do
have
plans
to
build
new
gas
in
the
future.
P
Nowhere
in
the
next
five
seven
years,
but
maybe
in
the
next
eight
to
ten,
the
the
the
gas
that
we
will
build
in
the
future.
Assuming
we
do
build
it.
Assuming
that
that
that
lithium-ion
batteries
don't
just
take
over
our
planning
in
the
next
two
or
three
PI
RP
cycles,
assuming
we
build
this
gas
it'll
be
what
we
call
peaker
plants
as
opposed
to
base
load
plants.
In
other
words,
there'll,
be
plants
that
exist
purely
or
really
only
to
support
the
renewables
on
our
system
so
that
they
they
are
there
in
relatively
inefficient
gas
generators.
P
So
the
the
point
of
those
gas
units
isn't
to
burn
a
bunch
of
gas
it's
to
generate,
maybe
10%
of
the
hours
in
the
air,
as
opposed
to
the
sixty
to
eighty
percent
that
a
typical
gas
unit
would
have
historically,
and
so
they
won't
be.
They
may
be
a
significant
portion
of
our
capacity
picture
in
the
future,
but
not
up
a
significant
portion
of
our
energy
picture
because
they
won't
operate
a
lot
so
back
to
coal,
so
Sokol.
P
So
fifteen
hundred
megawatts
of
fifty-six
fifty-seven
hundred
megawatts
of
coal
today
is
not
insignificant,
especially
not
when,
during
the
same
period
you're
building
sixty
five
hundred
megawatts
of
new
renewables
and
they
have
to
keep
in
mind
renewables
operate.
You
know.
Twenty
five
to
forty
percent
of
the
hours
in
the
day
and
and
coal
might
operate.
Three
times
that
so
sixty
five
hundred
megawatts
of
renewables
might
look
about
like
two
thousand
megawatts
of
coal,
so
it
really
is
a
similar
we're
about
building
to
replace
what
we're
retiring
and
coal
and
over
the
next
twenty
years.
P
What
is
this
move
by
twenty
thirty
eight,
so
the
end
of
the
planning
period
will
have
retired
75
percent
of
our
fleet.
Now
I
want
to
emphasize
when
I
say
that
that's
20
years
out
we're
saying
we're
saying
now
in
the
2019
IRP
that
we're
gonna
have
retired
75
percent
of
our
coal
generation
within
the
next
20
years,
and
that
essentially
the
Utah
coal
plants
will
be
the
only
ones
left
on
the
system.
I
think
maybe
one
unit
in
in
one
unit
in
Wyoming,
it's
smaller
it's
near
the
border
with
Dakota.
P
We've
got
a
lot
of
irps
between
now
and
2030
eight
and
the
pressures
that
exist
that
have
produced
the
1500
megawatts
of
acceleration
in
the
next
five
years
are
not
flattening
they're
accelerating,
and
so,
if
you
were
to
ask
me
off
the
record
whether
I
thought
these
numbers
would
change
and
whether
coal
would
be
accelerated
further.
I
would
say.
Probably
so,
but
we're
not,
we
try
not
to
be
too
cavalier
with
those
types
of
forecasts,
because
people's
lives
are
at
stake
and
communities.
P
I
mean
we
essentially
operate
a
bunch
of
company
towns
throughout
southeastern
Utah,
southwestern,
Wyoming
and
other
parts
of
the
Intermountain
West,
and
these
are
folks,
livelihoods
and
a
lot
of
them.
You
know
their
careers
are
going
to
be
cut
short
and
you
don't
replace
a
coal
job
with
the
solar
job.
It
just
doesn't
happen
there.
There
aren't,
you
know
for
a
thousand
megawatts
of
coal
you're
talking
four
hundred
jobs
and
for
a
thousand
megawatts
of
solar
you're
talking
to
so
so.
P
These
are
serious
concerns
that
we
have,
and
there
are
obviously
political
pressures
and
anxieties
that
our
legislate
legislators
have
in
the
various
states
in
which
we
operate.
We
serve
customers
in
six
states,
but
we
operate
assets
in
nine,
and
so
we've
got
to
navigate
the
politics
in
all
nine
of
those
states
where
we,
where
we
have
assets,
pay
property
taxes
pay
employees,
but
the
market
is
what
the
market
is,
and
it's
saying:
accelerate
the
construction
of
renewables
and
accelerate
closure
of
coal
and
so
I.
Just
wanted
to
update
you
on
that
by
2038.
P
Under
our
current
plan,
we'll
have
seen
43%
emissions
reductions
against
a
2005
baseline
and
that
2005
baseline
seems
arbitrary
and
I
guess
it
is.
But
it's
not
our
use
of.
It
is
not
arbitrary,
because
the
IPCC
and
others
use
that
to
met
the
Intergovernmental
Panel
on
Climate,
Change
and
others
use
the
2005
metric
in
the
Paris
talks
and
stuff
I.
Don't
know
why
they
do
it,
but
so
using
that
as
a
baseline,
43%
reductions
of
carbon
emissions
by
2025.
This
isn't
NOx
or
Sox.
P
P
It's
nice
to
sell
electricity
to
electric
car
owners,
but
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
where
our
focuses
are
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about
this
or
anything
else.
Oh
and
before
I
finish
chair.
Yes,
I
had
a
number
of
follow-ups
that
I
promised
you.
This
is
one
of
those
if
you'll
recall,
yes,
the
renewable
energy
kind
of
summary
of
the
IRP,
so
that's
one
and
we
can
talk
about
the
others
and
I,
don't
know
if
you'd
prefer
this
setting
for
that
or
another.
But
we
can
talk
about
the
others.
P
You
know
we
basically
say:
go
forth
meet
with
our
commercial
customers
prioritized
by
the
larger
loads,
because
that's
the
bigger
bang
for
your
buck
and
if
help
them
identify
projects,
if
they
identify
projects
and
bring
them
to
you,
help
them
refine
those
projects.
And
then
we
will.
We
do
sort
of
a
utility
cost
tests
to
see
you
know,
what's
the
the
energy
reduction
value
that
we're
gonna
get
out
of
that
commercial
project
and
then
we'll
just
pay
for
a
large
portion
of
it.
P
So
if
it's
a
one
hundred
thousand
dollar
project,
we
might
say
the
value
of
that
project
to
our
customers
is
forty
four
thousand
dollars.
If
you
can
kick
in
the
other,
sixty
six,
you
know
one
hundred
then
or
sixty
sixty
I,
don't
know
what
my
original
figure
was.
Everything
then
then
we're
good
and
they
they
go
back
to
their
finance
people
and
they
decide
whether
it
makes
sense
to
them.
P
We
even
have
programs-
and
this
will
surprise
you-
it
surprised
me
when
I
first
learned
about
it,
if
you,
if,
if
you
are
a
large
enough
customer
that
you
can
meet
a
certain
threshold
for
you
know
constantly,
you
know,
like
you
know,
throughout
the
year
you
can
count,
you
can
have
a
million
kilowatt
hours
of
energy
savings
projects
in
our
queue
for
incentives.
If
you
can
meet
that
threshold,
then
we'll
pay,
your
energy
manager
will
pay
their
salary.
P
You
identify
what
that
salaries
will
pay
it
and
they're
only
about
a
half
a
dozen
customers
that
are
large
enough
to
have
much
by
way
of
efficiency
projects
in
our
queue
at
a
given
time.
But
for
those
customers
we
pay
a
salary
for
their
employee
just
so
they
can
bring
us
projects
to
achieve
efficiency
savings.
So
yeah
we're
having
great
success.
P
A
I
just
want
to
ask
for
some
clarification
on
you
know.
A
lot
of
my
residents
are
very
concerned
about
the
old
power
lines
and
the
upper
avenues
and
about
fire.
My
understanding
is
that
there
was
they've
had
meetings
with
rocky
mountain.
That
I
think
it
would
be
fair
to
say
that
that
while
Rocky
is
concerned
that
they
feel
that
the
right
is
less
imminent,
then
the
neighbors
do.
Would
that
be
fair.
A
P
So
we
bury
lines
for
certain
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
Fire
risk
is
not
one
of
them
all
right,
so
they're,
they're,
normally,
aesthetic
economic
development,
fire
safety,
access
for
fire
trucks,
etc.
What
we
do
for
fire
risk
is
we
harden
the
infrastructure.
There
are
ways
to
invest
in
new
types
of
lines
that
are
insulated
and
other
types
of
you
know
new
types
of
fuses
that
are
not
combustible
fuses.
P
So
there
are
ways
to
invest.
You
know
if
you
were
to
ask
any
utility
guy
around
the
country.
You
know,
how
do
you
address
fire
risk?
You
don't
it
you
don't
address
it
by
making
the
infrastructure
four
times
as
expensive,
as
it
was
a
day
before
you
you,
you,
you
address
it
by
making
it
two
times
as
expensive
as
it
was,
and
so
the
areas
that
you're
talking
about
and
that
we
discussed
in
particular
I
can
picture
it
on
the
map
in
the
in
my
mind's
eye.
P
Those
are
on
in
areas
that
we've
identified
as
fire
high
consequence
areas.
Fhc
a
zones
within
our
fire
high
consequence
areas
owns.
We
have
identified
some
much
much
smaller
areas
that
we,
that
are
our
Public
Safety
power,
shutoff
zones,
which
is
what
you're
hearing
about
in
Southern
California
with
PG&E
shutting
off
power
just
proactively.
P
We
think
we've
tuned
our
program
a
little
bit
more.
Finally,
if
that's
the
right
term,
then
California,
so
that
we
don't
think
we're
gonna
have
to
use
we're.
Not
gonna
have
to
do
a
lot
of
proactive
shut
offs.
They
wouldn't
affect
Salt
Lake,
very
much
if
at
all,
most
of
them
are
in
the
Park
City
area
and
a
couple
other
small
areas,
but
for
hire
for
fire
high
consequence
areas
like
the
ones
we're
talking
about.
P
We
have
investment
plans
and
I,
where
I'm
not
at
liberty,
to
share
those
now
or
what
the
exact
details
are
timelines,
but
we
do
have
investment
plans
to
harden
those
resources
and
what
we're
talking
about
yeah
is
largely
the
two
things
I
mentioned
before,
aside
from
vegetation
management
to
the
nth
degree,
you
know
beyond
what
we've
done
in
the
past.
There's
you
you
replace
lines.
I
mean
the
lines
that
we
have
up
now,
it's
just
metal
conduit.
You
know
it's
just
metal
conductor
and.
P
And
and
we're
you
know
when
we
address
those
lines
and
the
risk
that
they
can
present
in
fire
high
consequence
areas,
we
do
it
by
replacing
them
with,
with
with
conduit
that
has
like
or
conductor
that
has
essentially
a
big
black
hose
on
it.
You
know,
and
and
and
then
we
have.
You
know
it's
fascinating
in
the
context
of
California
and
the
billions
upon
billions
of
the
lawsuits
and
things
that
have
come
PG
knees
way.
There
are
national
electricity,
you
know
NS
NESC,
I,
don't
know
what
the
Safety
Council
or
something
any
SC
approved.
P
P
Devices
is
by
exploding
right,
so
they
that's
how
they
isolate
the
line,
and
so
there
are
fuses
in
place
and
I,
don't
know
if
they're
there
and
but
where,
when
they
operate
as
they're
designed
to
do
and
approved
by
the
federal
government
they
produce
sparks,
and
so
that's
not
ideal
when
you've
got
Santa,
Ana
winds
or
even
Utah
winds.
You
know.
So
there
are
new
fuses
that
we're.
P
We
have
investment
plans
to
get
them
out
there
in
the
field
and
we're
putting
those
out
in
the
fire
high
consequence
areas,
and
so,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
liability
around
this.
We
need
to
have
really
good
plans
and
timelines
before
we
start
sharing,
because
we
don't
want
to
build
expectation
that
we're
gonna
be
out
there
in
2021,
really
it's
gonna
be
2022,
but
as
I
am
able
to
share
that
information
around
for
the
areas
around
the
avenues
and
other
areas
that
are
sensitive
to
Salt,
Lake
I'll
share
that
with
you.
P
H
A
P
Know
that's
the
best.
I
can
do
right
now,
although
you
could
also
tell
them
that
I
mean
we've
done
a
lot
of
clearing
just
in
the
past
year,
in
that
immediate
area
around
the
transmission
lines
that
are
right
there
I
don't
know
if
they're
the
exact
distribution
line,
that's
on
those
backyards
that
you're
talking
about
but
they've
they
have.
Since
this.
Since
we
started
getting
more
and
more
serious
about
fire,
they
have
gone
through
that
area
and
done
intensive
vegetation
management,
but
I
can't
tell
them
when
we're
going
to
address
the
lines
in
that
area.
P
Well,
you
know,
temperature
soil,
moisture,
monitors
lots
of
different.
You
know
essentially
weather
station
type
things,
but
also
that
assess
what's
what's
going
on
in
the
ground
and
so
we're
doing
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
that
our
the
system
that
raises
the
flag,
when
we
should
proactively
shut
off
that
we're
able
to
better
know.
You
know
that
we
feed
that
data
into
the
system,
so
we're
investing
in
our
monitoring-
and
you
know,
data
collection
systems
along
the
loss,
that's
front
and
we've
also
started
investing
in
the
actual
physical
infrastructure.
P
P
That
the
lines
that
are
closest
to
the
houses
or
distribution
lines,
the
transmission
lines
are,
if
you
know
so,
there's
they're
the
houses
there.
There's
the
access
to
the
Bonneville,
we're
right.
Take
our
dog
there's
the
little
bike
park
thing
there.
You
know
the
one
where
the
kids
jump
in
the
J
Street
and
it's
the
transmission
is
sort
of
behind
that
the
distribution
that
I
assume
that
these
customers
are
staring
at
every
day.
P
It's
it
goes
across
the
LDS
Church
parking
lot
and
it
goes
right
along
the
back
of
their
property
line
right
and
so
so
most
of
these
plans
are
addressing
distribution
lines
because
those
are
the
most.
Those
are
the
ones
that
I
that
need
more
attention
with
transmission
lines.
You
can't
there's
less
that
you
can
do
you
can't
bury
him.
You
can't
right.
I.
Don't
think
that
at
that
voltage
you
can
you
can
do
this.
N
When
you
gave
the
example,
you
know
kind
of
flipping
off
the
air
conditioner
or
whatever.
Of
course,
for
me,
the
first
thought
that
came
to
my
head
was
the
equity
behind
flipping
that
off
for
everyone
and
what
the
policy
sort
of
is
but
I.
This
can
be
a
conversation
we
can
have
offline
or
I
know
we're
kind
of
butting
up
against
our
time
with.
N
N
P
N
J
P
Yeah
so
gosh
back
when
I
was
at
the
state
in
the
state's
energy
office.
I
helped
put
together
at
the
Yui
grant,
with
in
partnership
with
the
with
Rocky
Mountain
Power
and
with
the
city
and
with
Idaho
National
Labs,
and
what's
that
one,
the
National
Renewable
Energy
Lab
in
Colorado
and
a
bunch
of
other
parties,
including
us
you
in
the
you
a
big
grant
for
essentially
you
know,
electric
mobility
in
Utah
and
Salt
Lake
City
is
still
partnering
closely
on
that.
P
We've
invested
a
lot
in
ways
to
through
that
infrastructure,
monitor
how
EVs
are
being
used
where
and
when
and
by
whom,
so
that
we
get
a
better
sense
of
you
know
what
we
can
do
to
better
facilitate
adoption,
but
yeah
we've
we've
invested
a
ton.
I
mean
many
many
many
millions
of
dollars
and
we've
given
away
a
lot
of
level
to
chargers
to
businesses
so
about
a
thousand,
because
our
focus
with
level
two
chargers
which
take
you
know
three
to
four
hours
to
charge.
A
vehicle
is
that's
sort
of
a
business.
P
You
know
an
at
work
charging
application
and
then
we've
we've
partnered
with
maverick
and
others
to
install
level
three
fast
chargers
along
the
interstates
to
facilitate
you,
know,
long-distance
travel
and
so
we're
doing
a
lot
with
them.
If
you
were
to
call
someone
down
from
the
fourth
floor
and
the
sustainability
department,
who's
been
engaged
on
this
front.
P
It's
cool
and
it's
you
know:
50
plus
percent
of
the
emissions
in
this
valley
on
an
inversion
day
well
on
every
day,
but
we
care
about
him
on
the
inversion
is:
are
from
vehicles
and
so
Tier
three
is
really
important
and
I'm
glad
the
governor
is
pushing
tier
threes
out
there.
You
know
charging
every
vehicle
you
can
get
at
tier
three
stations,
so
so
Tier
three
is
important,
but
EVs
are
critical
and
so
we're
trying
to
get
the
infrastructure
out
there.
A
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so,
council
members
that
we're
about
ten
minutes
late
for
our
dinner
break
and
we're
also
supposed
to
be
hearing
the
business
licensing
presentation.
So
we
had
okay,
are
we
okay
with
forging
through
business,
licensing,
real,
quick
and
then
I
would
like
to
have
our
closed
session
during
the
dinner
break?
If
that
everyone's
okay
with
that?
Okay,
so
business
licensing,
Allison
Rowland
from
counsel
staff,
Marybeth
Thompson
and
the
financial
officer
at
Lisa,
McCarver
and
director
of
revenue
collections
and
Andrew
Willardson
software
engineer
come
on
Dan.
M
M
You
know,
we've
had
a
goal
for
a
while
to
create
a
more
efficient
system
for
processing
business
licensing
we've
been
using
Acela,
which
it
hasn't
really
been
the
best
fit
for
licensing
in
part,
because
we
have
a
complex
fee
structure,
but
also
because
our
renewal
process
is
also
complex.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
did,
we
looked
at
about
half
a
dozen
different
software
packages
that
were
off-the-shelf.
We
went
to
about
four
cities
and
actually
looked
at
their
business.
M
B
Q
M
M
So
yeah,
so
this
is
the
city's
web
page.
This
is
the
business
license
area,
so
we've
kind
of
redone
this
it
matches
really
well
with
the
rest
of
the
city's
website.
So
this
is
the
page
they'll
go
to
when
they
first
when
they
first
come
in,
has
some
instructions.
Things
like
that,
then
they'll
be
asked
to
login
to
a
portal,
and
this
takes
them
into
the
Salesforce
community.
So
we
ask
them:
everyone
will
have
to
initially
create
an
account.
M
The
process
for
that
is
very
simple.
We
tried
to
ask
for
very
little
information.
They
can
also
use
Google
Facebook
to
login
to
that
once
they
actually
set
up
that
account
and
they're
inside
the
portal.
This
is
what
they
will
be
presented
with,
so
they
actually
have
this,
this
landing
page
that
they
come
to,
and
it
allows
them
to
look
at
all
of
the
licenses
for
all
of
their
businesses,
so
it
combines
them
all
on
one
on
one
page
for
them.
Also,
this
is
where
their
applications
are
processed.
M
They
can
see
the
status
of
those
things
here
on
this
page.
Also,
there
are
we've
given
them
an
option
to
check
their
zoning
for
the
type
of
business
they're
interested
in
starting.
This
uses
the
open-open
counter,
which
already
exists
and
just
takes
them
to
that
area,
so
they
can
check
their
zoning
and
make
sure
that
what
they're
wanting
to
do
is
allowed.
M
Also,
on
this
page,
they
can
ask
questions,
you
know,
request
information,
there'll,
be
a
chat
feature,
that's
active
here.
If
people
are
actually
online
during
working
hours,
they
can
also
renew
an
existing
license
when
that,
when
that
time
comes
so
to
walk
you
through
a
quick
application,
if
you
they'll
click
on
the
you
know
process
a
new
license,
it
runs
them
through
their
instructions.
M
There's
some
pieces
of
information,
they're
required
for
them
to
move
forward,
and
we
wanted
to
make
it
really
clear
here
on
this
page
what
they
need
and
we've
also
provided
links
to
all
of
those
places.
So
they
can
go
immediately
from
here
to
the
other
areas
if
they
need
to
so
it
runs
them
through
exactly
the
fields
that
are
on
our
application.
Now
you
know
we
need
an
address,
it's
going
to
verify
that
make
sure
it
is
in
the
city
and
that
it's
a
valid
address,
a
place
here
for
them
to
put
any
other
addresses.
M
Then,
based
on
the
NICs
code
in
the
classification
that
they
chose,
it
will
walk
them
through
a
series
of
questions
that
are
related
to
our
fee
schedule.
So
you
know
it
ask
them
the
questions
that
are
related
to
that
type
of
business
and
if
we
have
a
fee,
that's
associated
these
questions
will
either
add
that
fee
to
their
schedule
or
not.
M
M
Then
it'll
bring
them
to
this
page
where
it
will
show
them
all
of
the
fees
that
are
required
for
that
license.
At
this
point,
the
fees
are
an
estimate.
We
do
review
all
of
the
license.
You
know
all
of
the
information
they
provided
to
make
sure
everything
is
correct
and
and
works
out.
They
we
do
tell
them
it's
an
estimate
at
this
point.
They
agree
in
sign.
This
puts
it
in
our
queue
to
review
in
business
licensing
and
once
that's
all
done,
they'll
receive
another
email
that
says
your
applications
approved
at
this
point.
M
You
can
pay
your
fees
that
does
trigger
once
they
pay
the
fees,
it
does
trigger
inspections
that
they
need
to
go
through.
You
know
health
department,
fire,
whatever
is
related
to
their
license.
They
would
those
would
go
into
a
queue
actually
in
Acela.
So
on
the
inspector
side,
none
of
that
will
change.
M
Our
intent
is
not
to
send
an
official
one.
We
like
this
as
an
official
one,
and
hopefully
this
is
a
way
to
start.
You
know,
saving
paper
and
doing
things
a
little
bit
more
efficiently.
Q
M
We
reorganized
business
licensing
to
create
officers
that
actually
are
assigned
council
districts
so
when
a
new
application
comes
in
based
on
its
council
district,
its
assigned
to
a
specific
person
who
walks
that
application
through
the
process
and
then
is
there
as
a
liaison
and
a
contact
for
that
business
owner
through
the
life
of
their
business
and
we'll
make
sure
that
you
guys
know
who
your
assigned
person
is
so
that
if
you
get
questions,
you
can
direct
the
people
right
to
that
person.
They'll
be
familiar
with
the
business
the
area.
M
So
we're
really
hoping
that
between
that
and
you
know
having
this
online
platform
that
it's
really
going
to
serve
the
business
owners.
Well
part
of
the
process
that
we
went
through.
Initially,
we
demoed
this
to
the
business
advisory
board
and
got
their
input
when
it
was
in
its
infancy,
so
that
we
could
make
sure
we
were
capturing.
You
know
the
things
they
were
interested
in.
We
got
volunteers
from
that
board
to
actually
come
and
assist
us
in
work
sessions
and
help
us
build
this
out
further
we've.
M
K
You
know
with
with
a
boom
that
we're
having
with
co-working
spaces
and
a
lot
of
businesses
are
working
out
of
the
one
address,
so
any
co-working
space
may
have
100
businesses,
and
so
what
I've
noticed
is
that
this,
so
somebody
will
come
over
and
get
a
business
license,
and
then
it
would
trigger
inspections
to
the
same
building
every
single
time,
even
though
it's
the
same
building,
nothing
has
changed
other
than
there's
one
new
business
license
in
that
address.
So
have
you
guys
thought
about
how
you're
going
to
mitigate
that
since
it's
the
same
building?
M
Q
Have
had
discussions
for
a
while
with
with
the
group
that
does
the
inspections
on
maybe
doing
looking
at
maybe
doing
self
inspections
for
certain
types
of
businesses.
You
know
law
firms,
those
types
of
businesses
that
don't
necessarily
need
a
full
building
inspection,
but
could
do
a
self
inspection
and
self
inspection
list.
I
know
Orion
has
completed
that
self
inspection
list.
It's
been
difficult
with
a
seller.
I
believe
that
that
would
be
the
next
step
in
this
process
is
start
to
go
forward
with
that,
but.
Q
K
N
N
This
may
be
a
little
bit
outside
of
your
purview.
Obviously,
but
I
was
curious,
I
think
more
in
so
I
think
we
need
to
really
explore
the
inspections
and
and
the
permitting
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
with
the
business
license
you
mentioned
that
it
in
one
of
the
like
one
of
the
steps
it
will
kind
of
trigger
a
queue
for
the
inspection,
correct
and,
and
who
does
that
trigger
it?
For
does
it
trigger
it?
N
M
Q
N
N
I
really
have
had
a
lot
of
constituents
and
in
various
phases
of
their
development
and
again
from
your
mom-and-pop
to
multi-million
dollars,
are
having
these
similar
issues
and
I'd
really
like
for
us
to
dig
in
and
see
what
what
we
can
do
to
help
fix
that
and
and
and
I
think
it
may
be
a
budget
II.
You
know
impart
a
budgeting
issue.
It
may
be
a
policy
issue
may
be
a
little
bit
of,
but
I
would
ask
mr.
N
J
L
M
H
So
actually,
our
city,
the
website,
doesn't
reside
on
our
network,
it's
at
Utah
interactive
and
then
this
data
also
resides
in
the
Salesforce
cloud
where
all
of
our
data
resides.
So
if
you'd
like
us
to
put
a
pop
up
and
saying
that
now,
that
being
said,
the
data
that
sits
in
Salesforce
can
be
completely
encrypted
and
secure,
and
we
own
that
capability
of
doing
that
I
mean.
M
A
M
Well,
asila
has
never
really
worked
that
well
for
business
licensing,
it's
more
of
a
permitting
system.
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
that
we've
had
is
our
renewal
process.
You
know
business
owners
really
seem
to
be
attached
to
that
license,
number
that
they
have,
and
so
when
they
renew,
they
would
like
to
have
that
same
license
number,
and
so
that
has
been
a
challenge
as
to
you
know,
to
renew
that
and
offer
them.
The
exact
same
license
a
lot
of
cities
that
we
looked
at.
M
They
make
business
owners
reapply
every
single
year,
it's
a
brand
new
process,
and
so
they
get
a
new
license
number
a
new
license.
All
of
that,
so
we
were
trying
to
kind
of
be
sensitive
about
that.
That's
been
that's
been
probably
the
biggest
hurdle
we've
had
I
mean
our
fee
structure
is
complex,
but
I
mean
other
cities
have
even
more
complex
systems,
and
you
know
have
been
dealing
with
that
and
that
part
wasn't
our
challenge
for
sure
in
this.
M
Q
A
You
know
from
anywhere
how
many
assistant
be
able
to
handle
this,
and-
and
so
for
me,
like
this,
you
know
is
my
and
a
difference
in
terms
of
an
experience
that
I
would
rather
have
as
a
business
owner
in
the
city.
So
so,
if
you're
you're
telling
me
that
we
can't
offer
this
with
the
current
system,
that's
a
big
problem,
so
I
yeah,
I
love,
the
ease
of
access
and
I
would
I
would
want
to
definitely
I
mean
we
you
have.
A
K
K
And
then,
as
he
looks
for
that,
so
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
inspection
portion
of
this,
because
from
what
I
hear
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
you
were
kind
of
solving
this
issue
and
it's
a
great
solution
for
getting
these
licenses
out.
But
then
that's
where
your
work
stops,
because
then
the
the
inspections
kick
in
right.
So
who
do
we
talk
to
to
make
this
inspections
be
more
efficient
than
they
have
been
in
the
past,
because
we're
going
we're
moving
towards
efficiency?
I
mean
this
is
crazy.
K
The
saving
time
paper
lots
of
good
stuff,
which
is
awesome,
so
I
agree
with
all
of
you,
but
now
we're
trying
to
solve
problems.
Let's
get
it
all
now,
as
we're
going
through
this
and
ready
to
lunches.
The
next
step
is
the
licensing
I
mean
sorry,
the
inspection
portion.
Are
you
got
a
guys's
doctor,
though.
Q
So
I
think
that
you
know
there
are
several
areas
you
know,
depending
on
what
type
of
business
you
have,
you
may
have
a
health
inspection,
police
inspection,
fire
inspection
or
a
building
inspection.
The
easiest
to
to
do
self
inspections
with
would
be
fire
and
building
and
Orion
has
talked
about
this
for
several
several
years.
I
think
that
that
would
be
the
next
step
right
be
able
to
put
a
form
on
here.
Q
K
Q
I
think
that
we're
gonna
have
to
add
and
change.
You
know
the
landlord-tenant
program
isn't
on
this.
At
this
point.
That's
a
Phase
two
as
well
going
forward.
Landlord-Tenant
is
a
very
complicated
system
that
we
also
want
to
do.
The
exact
same
thing
right
form
comes
up.
They
look
at
the
management
agreement,
sign
the
management
agreement
online
so
that
we're
not
having
to
go
paper
write.
The
landlord
tenant
is
very
paper
intensive.
We
don't
want
paper
intensity
so
how.
B
Okay,
I
think
that
the
briefing
that
councilmember
Fowler
asked
for
and
will
be
a
very
good
first
step
it.
You
have
an
audit
that
was
done.
That's
something
that
can
be
built
upon
so
first
and
I
know
that
the
administration
is
working
on
this.
The
people
who
work
in
the
department's
are
also
working
on
it,
so
I
think,
probably
in
the
next
year.
This
would
be
a
major
topic
for
all
of
the
cities.
The
administration,
the
department's,
the
the
council
and
I
just
wanted
to
say.
B
One
quick
thing
about:
we've
mentioned
a
cèlle
and
at
least
anyone
lest
anyone
get
the
impression
that
it's
not
a
good
program.
It
is
it's
something
that
the
council
invested
in
several
years
ago
and
it's
just
a
different
tool
in
the
toolbox.
So
there's
you
know
that
this
tool
that
happens
to
be
the
same
as
the
Constituent
program
and
the
economic
development
program
and
then
there's
a
cèlle
that
has
could
probably
be
adapted
in
some
ways,
but
these
guys
in
assessing
it,
found
that
this
was
more
fitting
and
then
there's
the
city's
regular
GIS
program.
B
Q
N
K
A
H
A
Q
So
that
amount
of
money
is
the
amount
of
money
that
in
your
legislative
intent,
you
said,
wanted
you
wanted
to
go
to
streets,
so
a
portion
of
that
may
come
back
in
a
budget
amendment
from
the
administration,
but
the
remainder
of
it
would
be
nice
for
us
to
the
administration
to
know
the
direction
would
like
to
go
on
that
3.1
million
dollars,
but
that
is
the
actual
that
has
dropped
to
fund
balance.
That
has
to
be
reappropriation.
J
J
Q
Q
J
K
K
Q
You
can
obviously
change
that
it's
a
legislative
intent
as
well
as
Ben
and
I
discussed
prior
to
that.
When
we
up
to
the
fund
balance
from
10
to
13,
we
did
not
include
FoF
into
that
13
percent.
That's
about
a
million
dollars,
so
that
may
be
another
consideration
that
you
want
to
consider
as
well
as
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
13
percent
in
fos
fund
balance,
as
well
as
general
fund
fund
balance.
I
thought
you'd
like
that.
A
E
A
A
J
J
A
S
Okay,
I'm
excited
here,
I
just
want
to
be
here:
I
just
want
to
plug
the
dashboard.
So
if
you
take
one
thing
away,
you
and
the
vast
listening
audience
check
out
the
the
dashboard
there's
a
link
to
it
off
the
funding
our
future
website.
It's
updated
monthly,
as
ridership
numbers
come
in
and
the
good
news
is
we've
put
out
better
service
and
people
are
using
it
so
and
though
those
numbers
you
can
see
on
the
screen
there,
that's
the
the
weekday
ridership
the
route.
S
Nine
got
the
the
biggest
improvement
in
the
weekday
ridership,
going
from
30
to
15
minutes
and
better
geographic
coverage,
and
so
you're
saw
a
really
healthy
jump
on
that
it
basically
doubled
compared
to
the
previous
years,
comparing
the
same
month
year
over
year
and
then
also
saw
a
big
jump
in
weekend
service
on
all
of
the
routes.
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
turn
over
to
Julian.
T
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
tie
that
to
something
that
you
know
we
did
a
soft
launch.
It
reached
a
lot
of
people
about
1.3
million.
What
is
the
impressions?
I'm,
not
an
outreach
person,
so
I'm
going
from
what
the
consultant
told
me,
but
in
terms
of
unique
impressions,
people
that
clicked
on
our
videos
or
heard
the
Spotify
ads
and
responded
in
some
way.
It
was
over
four
hundred
and
forty-four
thousand
people.
T
For
that
system-
and
they
love
it
and
the
stories
that
they're
coming
back
and
telling
us
are
it's
so
encouraging
it's
exactly
what
I
think
everyone
hoped
to
see
with
improved
transit
service,
which
is
I,
can
take
my
baby
to
daycare
and
get
to
work
without
it
taking
two
hours.
Those
types
of
stories
are
great
to
hear.
T
I
can
go
to
work
and
then
I
can
go
to
different
meetings
during
the
day,
because
I
know
the
service
is
frequent
all
day
long
I
can
do
things
on
weekends,
I'm,
a
service
industry,
worker
and
I
know
I'm
not
going
to
get
stranded
at
nine
o'clock.
Those
types
of
things,
that's
exactly
what
we
wanted
to
hear
and
it's
happening.
So
it's
making
us
very
happy
and
we
have
a
couple
of
things
that
are
in
the
works,
but
in
terms
of
the
quarterly
update.
Those
are
the
I
think
the
big
takeaway
is
the
big
highlights.
T
We
had
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
reboot
on
that
we
had
trouble
getting
to
where
we
felt
like
we
needed
to
be
for
our
residents
to
serve
them
well
and
to
conduct
a
good
pilot
and
to
feel
comfortable
with
legal
terms,
and
so
we
did
a
little
bit
of
a
reboot
and
we
have
a
good
path
forward
for
trips
to
transit.
But
it's
taking
us
a
little
longer.
So
we'll
have
more
to
say,
I.
Think
next
update
about
that.
J
Capital
enhancements,
yes,
so
great
great
work
on
this
and
the
the
dashboard
is
helpful.
I'm,
assuming
the
goal
isn't
that
every
stop
will
have
it
at
a
shelter
and
bench
necessarily,
it
may
be
tailored
to
the
need
of
the
stop
and
those
sort
of
things.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
on
the
dashboard
what
the
goals
would
be
in.
G
T
We
are
doing
tackling
first
are
the
stops
that
we
absolutely
need
to
upgrade
to
meet
a
DA,
especially
where
there's
new
service
and
it's
a
stop.
That
is
an
already
grandfathered
in
it
doesn't
exist
yet
so
those
are
really
important
to
tackle
first
and
the
ATA
access
is
absolutely
our
top
priority
and
then
preparing
for
the
next
route,
so
6th
and
10th
north,
for
example,
are
kind
of
next
on
that
list
and
I
don't
know
John.
T
If
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
say
about
that,
but
the
capital
improvements
will
be
a
really
important
piece
of
that,
because
it
just
is.
It
means
so
much
in
terms
of
being
visible
in
the
neighborhood
and
people
recognizing
that
it's
going
to
be
a
first-class
travel
experience,
not
a
second-class
one
if
you're
taking
transit.
So
that's
a
high
priority
for
us
and.
S
So
for
6th
and
10th
north,
since
that's
brand-new
service,
we've
got
to
lay
the
groundwork
or
working
with
UTA
and
their
service
planners
to
figure
out.
The
routing
for
those
two
routes
were
still
shooting,
with
a
goal
of
August
2021,
which
is
gonna,
be
on
us
really
soon,
and
so
we
are
actually
just
about
to
kick
off
with
consultant
for
the
six
North
analysis,
tent
North
we're
gonna
be
able
to
keep
in
the
house.
S
That's
looking
at
where
to
put
the
bus
stops
and
then
also
putting
in
bicycle
and
pedestrian
enhancements
on
and
along
and
near
those
corridors,
to
make
it
safe
and
community
at
to
and
from
each
of
those
bus
stops
and
to
be
able
to
cross
the
street
to
and
from
the
bus
stops,
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
the
other
corridors
and
the
city,
and
so
it's
really
kind
of
a
case-by-case
basis
of
each
stop.
But
the
the
busy
stops
are
going
to
have
more
amenities
right
and
a
minimum.
S
They
have
to
be
a
TA
compliant,
but
the
goal
would
be
to
have
every
stop
along
the
frequent
transit
network
route.
Have
the
appropriate
level
of
investment,
and
so
we
have
those
two
outs
and
we've
been
working
on
the
nine
and
then
the
twenty
one,
we're
doing
another
interesting
in-house
analysis
of
24,
South
and
21st
East
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
appropriate
level
investment
on
that
and
then
we're
also
kicking
off
a
study
on
second
south
which
is
on
the
street
reconstruction
project
or
the
street
bonds
list.
S
T
So
if
it
depends,
I
guess
is
a
better
answer
to
that.
So
we
have
the
bus,
stop
and
bike
share
design
guidelines
that
Council
adopted
a
few
years
ago.
There
was
an
ordinance
change
needed
for
concrete
in
the
park
strip
and
such
and
once
we
had
that
in
place,
we
were
able
to
go
in
and
just
improve
stops.
T
Uta
will
maintain
those
stops
as
long
as
it's
at
the
level
of
a
minute
ization
that
their
own
bus
stop
master
plan
calls
for
standard
amenities
if
we
do
custom
amenities,
artwork,
some
other
things
and
we've
done
this
at
500,
East
and
900
South.
You
may
have
seen
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
artwork
there
that
something
that
we
will
either
remove
or
maintain
when
the
time
comes,
so
we
knew
the
nine
line
was
happening
and
we'd
have
an
opportunity
to
go
in
there
and
do
some
stuff
anyhow.
It.
J
T
They
they
power
wash
monthly
and
if
you
know,
for
example,
you
get
kids
with
BB
guns,
that'll
shoot
out
a
panel
of
a
shelter,
for
example,
they'll
go
out
and
replace
that
they
empty
the
garbage
on
an
as-needed
basis
and
the
operators
report
back
on
when
the
garbage
is
full
and
that's
needed.
So
those
types
of
things
are
handled
by
UTA,
though.
T
T
M
T
J
J
T
I
should
mention
about
that
I'm.
Sorry,
we're
probably
way
over
our
two
minutes
at
this
point.
So
stop
me
if
you
need
to
but
I
wanted
to
just
mention
with
the
bus
stops
that
we,
our
ridership,
has
grown
faster
than
we
expected
and
often
it'll
take
a
year
or
two
before
you
see
travel,
behavior
change
in
response
to
changes
in
the
system,
and
it's
just
happening
right
away,
and
so
we
are
future
proofing.
Some
of
these
stops
and
pouring
them
at
a
size.
T
That's
an
amenities,
Asian
level
or
is
prepared
for
that
for
shelters,
for
instance,
where
ridership
today
might
not
warrant
it,
but
if
it
does
in
a
month
we
don't
want
to
have
poured
concrete
and
not
have
space
to
put
a
shelter.
So
we're
we're
going
forward
in
that
manner.
Stop
us
now!
If
that's
not
something
you
like
or.
S
A
J
A
H
T
T
A
T
A
J
H
A
R
Yes,
vote
for.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
did
put
together
just
a
really
quick
slideshow,
just
to
refresh
your
memories
on
how
the
streets,
surface
treatment
program
works.
Just
some
quick
facts,
I
like
this
one,
the
second
one
in
there
we've
touched
7,200
households
this
last
season
and
as
you
remember,
this
started
out
in
2019
and
we
have
a
very
short
season
from
May
to
September
and
the
teams
got
out
there
and
they
were
able
to
pretty
much
meet
their
target
and
another
slide.
I'll
show
you
why
they
were
not
able
to
meet
their
target.
R
Okay,
this
one,
it
shows
you
typically
what
our
surface
treatments
are
divided
into.
This
is
really
dependent
on
a
lot
of
different
factors,
including
what
public
utilities
is
doing,
what
engineering
is
doing
and
what
transportation
is
doing,
and
one
thing
we're
doing
is
working
with
our
partners
and
transportation.
Engineering
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
right
kinds
of
streets
done
for
even
for
their
streets,
design,
they're,
putting
a
road
on
a
road
diet
we'll
try
to
take
that
into
consideration.
R
R
R
R
I
wanted
to
show
you
what
we
did
last
year,
and
these
are
surface
treatments
that
we
completed
and
then
I'm
going
to
show
you
what
we're
going
to
do
this
year
this
coming
season.
This
is
important
because
we
want
to
show
not
only
the
roads
that
were
surface
treating
along
side
the
roads
that
we're
going
to
be
reconstructing
to
show
that
we're
covering
the
city
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
and
again.
R
This
is
all
done
in
coordination
with
engineering
transportation,
so
we
can
get
the
best
coverage
and
make
sure
that
most
residents
possible
are
seeing
some
improvements
to
their
local
streets.
Remember
we're
doing
mostly
residential
streets,
so
we're
going
best
first
and
attacking
those
streets,
so
we
can
preserve
their
life
and
not
have
to
go
back
and
reconstruct
them
so
soon.
H
R
A
A
O
O
O
So
last
before
the
last
time
that
we
did
this,
we
didn't
have
a
last
time
to
so
easily
refer
to.
But
since
the
council
went
through
this
about
a
year
ago,
council
staff
just
kind
of
resurrected
what
the
process
was
from
last
year
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
council
did
was
the
night
that
the
application
period
closed.
O
Questions
were
submitted
to
each
of
the
applicants
to
respond
in
writing
to
the
council
by
that
Friday
afternoon,
and
so
in.
Following
that
process,
we
have
for
you
in
on
that
memo
both
the
questions
that
were
used
last
time
and
then
a
couple
of
other
questions
that
the
council
may
want
to
consider.
O
So
in
reviewing
the
questions,
it
would
be
helpful
if
you
want
to
decide
how
many
question,
if
you
want
to
submit
questions
to
the
applicants
to
respond
to,
if
so,
how
many
and
then
just
to
confirm
that
we
would
request
that
the
answers
would
be
submitted
back
to
our
office
by
this
Friday
afternoon,
so
that
they
can
be
included
in
your
packets.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
N
A
A
J
N
N
H
N
A
N
A
O
O
A
A
A
O
O
N
A
O
this
Friday
at
3
p.m.
and
then
once
we
receive
all
of
those
they'll
be
submitted
to
the
recorders
office.
Just
like
the
applications
were,
and
then
they
will
coordinate
with
us
to
get
us
all
of
the
paperwork.
And
then
we
will
add
that
information
online
for
both
you
and
the
general
public
to
access
in
advance
of
Tuesday's
prison,
I,
would
say
by
the
end
of
the
work
day,
Friday
mm-hmm.
H
O
H
B
O
A
N
A
A
Do
you
mind
if
I
talk
about
this,
so
the
the
feedback
that
I
heard
most
from
the
time
that
we
did
this
last
time
was
we
said
that
you
that
we
were
gonna
likely
hold
two
rounds
of
voting,
but
it
may
only
be
one
round
of
voting
and
that
we
would
make
that
determination.
If
there
was
a
clear
consensus,
we
didn't
really
define
what
clear
consensus
was
and
so
I
think
both
some
a
little
bit
council
members
were
surprised
and
a
little
bit,
I
should
say:
I.
A
Don't
think
that
it's
like
would
have
changed
the
outcome
at
all,
but
I
think
applicants
came
in
with
a
certain
expectation,
I
think
even
you
were
probably
kind
of
surprised.
So
we
wanted
to
define
what
what
will
determine
how
we,
whether
we
go
into
a
second
round
of
voting,
so
people
know
going
in
if
this
doesn't
happen.
There
will
be
a
second
round
of
voting
if
this
does
happen.
It's
over
and.
N
Just
so
Councilmember
know,
council
members
know
we
were
talking
about
it
and
kind
of
brainstorming,
just
cuz.
We
were
and
a
room
together
mostly
and
sort
of
modeled,
a
little
bit
this
after
how
like
the
Democratic
convention
where
it's
just
because
it
it's
a
percentage
more
than
anything,
and
so
we
kind
of
were
like
the.
This
is
what
we've
both
been
through
and
seen,
and
it
kind
of
works,
and
so
that's.
N
N
O
And
this
models
blends
what
what
happened
last
time,
plus
the
conversation
today,
the
first
round
would
be
the
applicants
providing
five-minute
presentations
right
now
we
have
that
scheduled
for
next
Tuesday
January
21st,
depending
on
the
number
of
applicants
that
we
just
received,
will
probably
be
starting
close
to
three
o'clock.
I
would
imagine
2:30
or
3:00
o'clock
and.
O
And
if
you
calculate
out,
28
applicants
and
five-minute
presentations
it'll
probably
be
about
three
hours
worth
of
time
yeah,
and
we
give
a
little
bit
of
time
for
people
to
come
up
and
get
situated
in
things
and
I
believe
that
we'll
also
have
one
applicant
who
will
be
calling
in
and
so
that
may
take
a
few
extra
minutes
as
well.
So
and
then,
once
all
of
those
applicants
presentations
are
done,
then
the
council
would
take
a
vote.
O
O
O
H
A
O
O
O
N
N
N
Proceed
straight
to
Council
third
vote,
each
council
member,
but
it
wouldn't
be.
The
third
photo-
would
be
the
second
vote,
but
still
three
or
fewer
PS
by
the
way
can
I
just
I
do
not,
in
my
personal
opinion,
I,
don't
want
to
do
second
round
interviews
and
I
am
hoping
that
this
can
finish
on
next
Tuesday.
But
that's
just
my
input,
that's
what
I'm
gonna
be
that's
out.
There.
A
Yeah
I
I
would
also
like
that,
so
so
yeah
I
think
our
one
way
again
that
we
talked
about
our
messaging
last
time
was.
It
could
be
to
vote
nights,
but
it
could
be
one
I
think
what
we'll
say
this
time
is
we're
hoping
to
get
this
done
in
one
night,
but
if
it
becomes
necessary
that
we
need
a
second
that
will
be
on
the
28th
that
will
be
February
3rd
or.
N
A
J
N
A
A
Sorry,
three
hours:
no,
no!
No!
No!
No!
If
we,
if
we
schedule
a
second
date,
then
they
get
the
two-minute
speech.
But
if
we
do
all
the
voting
the
first
night
or
if
we
determine
that
we
can
get
it
done
all
in
one
night,
then
had
no
speech.
But
if
we
determine
that
we
need
a
second
night,
then
they
get
the
two-minute
speech
on
the
second
night.
What.
N
If
this,
because
this
is
an
emotion
just
because
I
heard
Andrew
like
part
of
his
concern,
is
like-
is
there
if
there
if
it
comes
down
to
four
or
five
people,
and
he's
still
you
know,
is
as
another
speech
what?
If
we
have
a
surprise
question
for
those
three
or
five
for
those
last
people
when
we're
in
the
third
or
fourth
round
of
voting,
and
they
have
two
minutes
to
answer.
It
would
be
like
sort
of
like
a
beauty
pageant
question
like
how
would
you
solve
world
peace.
N
J
J
A
N
J
J
A
J
H
C
N
A
J
A
Gonna
try
and
restrain
restate
the
straw
poll
so
first
round
of
voting,
everybody
gets
four
votes
if
a
candidate
and
if
we
get
60%
or
more,
they
continue.
If
nobody
gets
60%,
66%
or
more,
then
everybody
that
got
a
vote
will
continue.
Then
we'll
do
a
second
round
of
voting
at
that
point.
If
there
is
more
than
three
candidates
in
that
category,
then
everyone
will
get
three
votes.
If
there
are
less
three
candidates
or
less
everyone
will
get
one
vote
at
which
point
everyone
will
get.
N
B
A
O
And
then
just
for
the
applicants
fYI,
once
the
council
selects
the
city
recorder
will
be
there
that
night
to
swear
them
in
and
just
like.
Last
time
with
council
member
of
All
Tomorrow's
taking
your
seat
and
continuing
the
rest
of
the
meeting
at
that
point,
I
think
it's
fairly
late
in
your
formal
meeting
when
that
item
will
be
on
your
agenda,
but
they
would
take
the
seat
and
be
a
part
of
the
council
from
that
moment.
On.
Okay,.
B
The
council
has
the
opportunity
each
year,
to
put
one
each
council
member
can
select
a
month
in
which
they
can
have
a
newsletter
in
the
public
utility
mailing,
and
we
have
the
months
of
April,
oddest
and
December.
We
can
have
up
to
three
council
members
in
each
of
these
slots,
but
it's
only
one
council
member
per
I
mean
you
only.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
we
still
have
anyone
that
hasn't
signed
up.
You
have,
okay,
you
can
do
you
can
choose
any
of
them:
okay,
okay,
all
right,
and
then
you
have
before
you
again,
the
not
the
2018
calendar,
but
the
2020
calendar,
so
it
you
have
seen
this
before
and
you've,
given
us
in
hood
and
we're
giving
it
to
you
one
more
time
so
that
you
can
look
closely
at
it.
B
And
maybe
you
want
to
do
that
when
you're
at
home,
but
we
need
to
know
in
the
next
day
or
so
for
absolutely
any
changes
that
you
would
like
to
make.
You
still
can
make
changes
later
in
the
year,
but
this
is
what
will
be
published
and
and
the
better
handle
that
we
can
have
on
it
from
the
beginning
of
the
year,
the
more
transparent
it
is
for
the
public
may-maybe.
N
N
N
N
A
B
A
B
B
My
understanding
case,
then
there
is
because
council
member
Luke
is
no
longer
with
us.
There
is
an
opening
for
a
city
council
member
to
represent
Salt
Lake
City
on
the
Salt
Lake
County
Council
of
Governments.
The
mayor
has
a
seat.
Mayors
of
all
other
cities
in
the
county
have
seats,
and
the
cities
of
a
first
class
also
have
a
council
member
seat.
So
if
there's
more
than
one
person
typically,
what
we
do
is
express
interest
and
then
either
the
group
couldn't
figure
it
out
or
the
chair
can
decide
has
been
done
both
ways.
B
B
B
That,
okay
with
everyone,
okay,
yep,
first
alright
and
then
there's
also
we
have
the
Utah
League
of
cities
and
towns
legislative
policy
committee.
At
different
times,
we've
had
two
people
serve
other
times.
We've
had
three.
The
current
individuals
are
councilmember
Fowler
and
councilmember
Johnston,
and
we
did
not
ask
them
yet
whether
they
are
interested
in
continuing
I
I.