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A
B
B
Welcome
to
today's
revolvement
agency
board
meeting
we're
happy
to
have
you
here.
While
we
continue
to
hold
our
meeting
remotely
due
to
the
declarations
of
emergency
related
to
the
pandemic,
we're
happy
to
have
you
here.
While
we
continue
to
hold
our
meeting
remotely
due
to
the
declarations
of
emergency
related
to
the
pandemic
and
earthquake,
even
though
there
isn't
a
location
to
attend
meetings
in
person,
this
is
still
considered
an
open
and
public
meeting.
Please
keep
joining
us
remotely
until
the
day
it's
safe
to
gather
again.
B
B
These
commenters
may
also
bring
up
a
recent
application
to
refer
to
the
city's
voters,
a
zoning
designation
for
the
utah
theater
and
a
recent
proposal
to
sell
the
theater
to
a
group
interested
in
saving
the
theater
to
be
sure
that
commenters
and
the
public
having
have
an
accurate
picture
of
the
world's
role.
At
this
time.
I
wanted
to
be
sure
that
we
have
a
shared
under
understanding
of
the
facts.
B
The
reason
for
the
board
vote
in
december
of
2019
was
to
approve
the
value
write-down
of
the
property
per
the
real
property
disposition
policy,
as
par
as
a
part
of
that
vote.
The
world
require
that
the
historic
elements
of
the
building
go
through
an
enhanced
documentation
process
and
that
the
developer
confirms
that
as
a
part
of
the
development,
they
will
construct
publicly
accessible,
green
open
space
in
addition
to
a
mid-block
walkway,
and
that
the
developer
will
provide
detailed
costs
and
plans
for
the
green
space
development.
B
B
There
is
a
petition
to
refer
to
the
city's
voters.
So
excuse
me
there
is
a
petition
to
refer
to
the
city's
voters
as
zoning
change
for
this
property
pursuant
to
state
law.
This
is
currently
being
reviewed
by
the
attorney's
office
and
the
finance
department,
and
so
any
questions
from
the
world
about
that
should
be
held
until
after
the
analysis
required
by
state
law.
B
We
are
on
item
a
under
comments
and
we
start
our
rda
meetings
with
comments
to
the
board.
As
a
reminder,
written
comments
can
be
submitted
to
rda
offices
at
po
box,
145455
lake
city,
utah
8411-5455
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comments
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or,
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you
have
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give
us
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today's
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B
In
order
to
achieve
this,
our
rules
of
the
quran
extend
from
the
moment
you
arrive
into
our
virtual
meeting
to
help
facilitate
our
comment
period.
Please
be
respectful,
avoid
yelling
or
making
racial
slurs,
hustlers,
obscene
or
defamatory
remarks.
The
word
respects
all
points
of
view
and
will
welcome
new
insights.
B
However,
using
foul
language
or
personal
attacks
make
the
public
comment
forum
and
civil
and
intimidating
for
others.
This
meeting
is
also
being
broadcast
on
television
and
the
internet,
and
so
we
will
more
strictly
enforce
the
use
of
profanity.
This
will
be
considered
your
advance
warning
against
the
use
of
profanity.
B
In
addition,
just
as
we
would
ask
for
your
name
in
our
person
in
our
in-person
meetings,
we
have
requested
your
name
during
the
registration
process
to
limit
this
disruption.
Your
name
cannot
include
a
message
or
violate
our
rules
of
the
current.
If
your
registered
name
doesn't
meet
this
requirement,
then
our
staff
will
use
the
chat
feature
to
gather
the
information
from
you.
B
B
He
will
be
calling
the
names
of
those
who
wish
to
comment
and
unmuting
lines
when
robert
unmutes
your
line
and
lets
you
know
it's
your
turn,
please
state
your
first
and
last
name,
just
as
you
would
in
our
in-person
meetings,
indicate
the
topic
you're
speaking
on
and
the
two-minute
timer
will
begin
at
the
two-minute
mark.
We
will
announce
time
and
your
microphone
muted.
C
You're
welcome
so
for
general
comment.
I
see
right
now.
We
have
roughly
15
names
so
far.
First
one
we
have
is
and
angela
montenegro
followed
by
michael
valentine
and
then
carolyn
lambert.
So
angela
montenegro
go
ahead.
D
Hello,
I'm
angela
montenegro,
I'm
just
making
a
general
comment
and
statement
to
the
slc
rda
on
behalf
of
the
rose
park,
brown
breeze.
D
It
is
a
privilege
to
be
a
part
of
this
meeting,
but
don't
get
too
excited,
that's
not
a
compliment.
D
D
D
D
C
All
well
thank
you.
Next,
we
have
michael
valentine,
followed
by
carolyn
lambert
and
then
casey
mcdonald
michael,
go
ahead.
F
Awesome
perfect
so
great
to
be
back
here,
so
I'm
sure,
as
most
of
you
guys
know,
on
friday,
I
submitted
a
formal
offer
to
buy
the
utah
theater.
We
want
to
see
it
restored
and
reopened
as
soon
as
possible.
You
know,
I
think
most
of
you
know,
we've
been
trying
to
fight
and
save
this
for
two
years
now,
since
this
deal
has
come
forward.
I've
I've
heard
pretty
much.
F
Every
single
council
member
lament
the
loss
of
this
theater
and
what
it
would
mean-
and
you
know
ask
for
a
plan
to
how
we
can
actually
save
it
and
wish
we
had
a
way
to
do
that.
So
we
spent
the
last
two
years
putting
that
together
a
very
real
plan.
This
is
a
very
real
offer.
We've
been
in
in
talks
with
our
sister
theater
in
tacoma,
and
also
the
league
of
historic
theaters.
It's
a
national
group,
the
experts
on
this
subject.
F
We
also
uncovered
the
truth
that
the
property
is
still
eligible
for
for
the
historical
registry
and
up
to
20
tax
credits,
which
would
go
directly
to
restoration,
so
we're
requesting
that
you
know
we.
We
can
meet
directly
with
the
board
and
talk
talk
more
details.
It's
just
impossible
to
update
on
all
the
information
we've
uncovered
in
two
years
and
more
details
about
our
offer
in
two
minutes.
You
know
here,
so
we
don't
feel
this
deal
is
good
for
for
the
city,
lasalle
and
heinz
have
had
exclusive
agreements
for
five
years.
F
The
public
application
is
still
incomplete.
They
have
an
old
appraisal
here
and
all
this
new
evidence
has
come
to
light.
You
know,
so
I
think
losing
this
theater
would
be
a
loss
for
utah
and
and
salt
lake,
and
not
only
that,
but
for
the
whole
entire
country
for
generations.
It's
something
we'd,
never
recover
from.
You
know
we
want
to
see
the
theater
restored
reopened
and
you
know
we
kind
of
call
it
the
crown
jewel
of
sundance
downtown
salt
lake.
F
So
we
want
to
invest
and
double
down
on
our
theater,
our
historic
culture
and
the
future
of
film
in
utah.
We
hope
you
support
this
endeavor
to
see
the
theater
saved
and
you
know
we'll
hold
you
to
some
of
the
comments
you've
made
in
the
past
about
looking
for
a
real
solution
to
restoring
this
theater.
I
look
forward
to
talking
to
all
of
you
more.
I
know
a
lot
of
you
personally
and
I
thank
you
for
this
time.
C
G
Yeah,
let
me
there
we
go.
Can
you
guys
hear
me.
G
Perfect,
this
is
casey
mcdonough
and
I'm
making
some
comments
about
the
utah
theatre
cell
and-
and
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
what
you're
looking
at
today,
which
I
think
is
the
the
open
space
and
and
mid
block
walkway.
So
I'm
gonna
try
to
make
some
comments
specific
to
that.
The
way
that
this
deal
was
portrayed
to
the
public.
G
I
think,
when
this
came
out,
was
that
there
would
be
a
park,
a
city
park
or
something
akin
to
it,
and
I
can
already
see-
I
think
what
I
think
is
the
writing
on
the
wall,
but
that's
not
really
what
we're
getting
we're
getting
a
private
space
that
will
have
some
sort
of
public
easement
and
undoubtedly,
as
I
think,
has
happened
in
the
past-
we'll
probably
have
conditions
such
as
restrictions
on
free
speech
and
what
can
or
cannot
happen
there
and
as
far
as
mid-block
walkways
go.
G
G
I
think,
when
it's
presented
to
the
public
that
we're
getting
a
mid-block
walkway,
I
think
what
they're
perceiving
is
something
like
the
connections
that
we
have
now
between
main
street
and
regent
street,
or
the
connections
that
you
see
leading
back
to
the
restaurant
from
second
south
near
the
capitol
theater.
G
It's
also
interesting
that,
as
we've
looked
at
the
at
the
of
the
block
at
large
and
and
how
the
city's
utilized
their
park
space
already
there's
kilowatt
park,
which
seems
to
get
very
little
attention,
and
even
more
alarmingly,
there
is
the
dinwoody
park
which
the
rda's
own
literature
claims
was
a
a
very
successful
project,
but
is
seemingly
simply
just
a
fenced
off
area
with
no
access
to
the
public
at
all.
So
we
have
these
existing
spaces
that
get
no
attention
yet
we're
giving
the
theater
way
to
get
something.
G
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
I
can.
Thank
you
hi
thank
you
for
taking
the
comment,
so
I
absolutely
encourage
the
rda
and
city
council
to
save
the
utah
camtasia
theater
and
open
our
existing
mid-block
walkway
and
park
in
woody
park,
which
is
right
in
the
shadow
of
the
theater
we
do.
As
I
mentioned,
we
already
do
have
a
public
green,
open
space
and
mid
block
walkway
in
woody
park,
which
is
just
north
of
the
theater.
G
But
of
course,
they'd
have
to
there's
more
than
ample
space
on
the
block
and
throughout
downtown
and
salt
lake
city,
but
they'd
have
to
pay
market
rate
for
that
land
to
build,
rather
than
this
sweetheart
zero
dollar
deal
corporate
welfare's
away
a
public
access,
a
public
asset
and
the
last
standing
movie
palace
in
salt
lake
city.
I'd
like
the
rda
to
preserve
our
history
to
say
no
to
yet
another
luxury
condo
tower
that
would
demolish
a
jewel
of
the
city
and
please
open
dinwoody
park.
G
I
think
it's
just
disastrous
and
against
public
salt
lake
city
code
that
this
was
given
away.
The
sweetheart
deal
happened
just
days
after
checks
were
issued
to
members
of
the
rda
and
city
council
who
of
course,
voted
for
prime.
E
C
A
C
A
A
A
A
The
unilateral
gentrification
and
homogenization
of
salt
lake
city
will
create
a
city
devoid
of
culture,
gentrification
of
the
west
side
and
the
north
temple
areas,
redevelopment
and
bulldog,
bulldozing
of
historically
significant
buildings
and
eviction
of
arts
and
culture.
Organizations
without
proactive
efforts
to
together
find
develop
and
implement.
Collaborative
solutions
is
an
effective
death
blow
to
utah's
few
diverse
communities
and
hundreds
of
our
local
artists
and
artisans
salt
lake
city
currently
has
the
opportunity
to
work
together
with
organizations
like
ours
and
to
build
and
grow
in
a
way
that
bolsters
these
communities.
A
That's
something
that
we
would
like
to
do
together
and
that
we
need
your
partnership
in
order
to
effectively
create
that
environment
and
seek
those
opportunities.
Our
organizations
can
provide
immense
value
to
the
community,
but
being
evicted
from
properties
without
ongoing
conversations,
and
the
opportunity
to
find
a
new
location
is
extremely
difficult
for
small
nonprofit
organizations.
C
E
Okay,
okay,
hi,
my
name
is
zion
tuyosoa.
I've
been
a
resident
of
utah
for
my
entire
life,
and
I
just
like
it
to
be
known
that
I
stand
with
the
restoration
of
the
utah
arts,
pantages
theater.
E
I
think
it
would
be
really
disappointing
to
see
more
quote
on
luxury
apartments
go
into
a
spot
that
is
extremely
historic
and
a
part
of
utah's
history
and
culture.
E
C
A
Hello,
my
name
is
matazon
cancan.
My
pronouns
are-
and
I
am
also
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
restoration
for
the
pantages
theater.
I
am
a
local
producer
and
I
advocate
for
career
spaces
wherever
I
am,
and
there
are
very,
very
few
queer
friendly
spaces
in
salt
lake
city,
specifically
downtown
salt
lake
city.
That
would
be
open
to
hearing
our
voices
and
providing
space
for
us
to
continue
to
perform.
A
I've
been
following
this
project
since
michael
took
over
and
has
been
advocating
so
hard
to
raise
funds
and
similar
to
the
sentiments
presented
by
others.
It
would
be
a
tragedy
to
lose
this
piece
of
history,
not
only
because
of
the
history
involved,
but
because
of
all
the
opportunities
that
would
be
lost
to
a
generation
of
queers
that
truly
need
a
space
to
perform.
A
That's
my
primary
goal
is
to
just
continue
to
advocate
for
space
wherever
we
can
find
it
particularly
downtown,
and
with
it
being
also
a
film
friendly
space,
we
need
to
continue
to
provide
access
to
films
that
would
not
otherwise
have
places
to
be
showcased.
That's
really
all
the
comments
I
have
at
this
time.
I
truly
appreciate
the
space
and
I
appreciate
everyone,
who's
been
advocating
for
the
theater
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
C
H
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
would
like
to
echo
some
of
the
earlier
comments.
I
I
actually
found
it
kind
of
convoluted
and
difficult
to
find
out
how
to
join
this
meeting.
H
So
I'll
just
tell
you
I
I
please
speak
for
so
many
interested
parties
and
friends
that
had
difficulty
they've
expressed
to
me
difficulty
in
joining
and,
in
addition
expressed
that
they
would
like
to
join,
but
could
not
because
of
the
unusual
hour
most
people
are
working
so,
but
please
like
to
express
my
support
for
renovating
and
saving
the
historic
pantages
theater
folks.
This
is
so
important
to
our
city
and
to
our
history.
H
You
can
get
to
a
point
in
in
life
where
you
just
don't
have
anything
exciting
to
go
see
in
a
city.
You
end
up
filling
it
with
things
like
you
know,
olive
garden,
an
old
navy.
Well,
every
city
has
that
that's
nothing
special,
but
we
really
need
something
unique
and
special,
not
high-rise.
H
Condominiums
I'd
say
my
my
family's
been
involved
with
theater
and
had
a
grandfather
actually
played
a
theater
organ
accompaniment
to
silent
movies
in
this
theater
way
back
in
the
20s,
and
just
very,
very
interested
in
saving
this
unique
piece
of
history
for
our
city.
H
I'd
also
add
that
san
francisco
famously
demolished
their
san
francisco
fox
theater,
and
it's
come
down
as
as
one
of
the
really
the
great
tragedies
of
of
their
city.
They,
so
many
people
regret
it
to
this
day
and
I
believe
that
was
done
in
the
60s
and
it's
just
thought
of
as
what
a
tremendous
loss
so
anyway,
thank
you
for
your
hearing
me
and
and
for
your
support
to
find
a
way
to
to
save
this.
Thank.
C
You
thank
you
shane.
Next,
we
have
alexander
woods,
followed
by
derek
dyer
and
then
kevin
hartley
alexander
go
ahead.
E
I
G
Okay,
my
name
is
alexander
woods,
I'm
a
filmmaker.
I
am
not
from
utah.
I
was
born
in
born
and
raised
in
seattle,
washington,
but
I've
fallen
in
love
with
this
place.
You
know
it's
beautiful
mountains,
the
great
salt
lake,
all
of
the
whole
landscape,
the
red
rock,
I'm
officially
a
jazz
fan.
Now,
let's
go
jazz.
G
I've
fallen
in
love
with
this.
You
know
truly
interesting.
Community.
This
place
is
crazy,
unique
and
it
it
feels.
G
G
I'm
really
happy
to
see
utah
kind
of
take
center
stage
on
the
national
on
a
national
scale,
and
it
just
makes
me
think
like
this
place
is
strange
and
unique
and
fun
and
interesting,
and
we
have
so
many
untold
stories,
and
I
think
it
would
be
an
absolute
tragedy
to
see
this
theater
be
turned
into
something
unmemorable
and
bland,
and
you
know
boring.
So
I
guess
I
just.
I
hope
that.
G
G
You
know
some
something
interesting
to
share,
and
I
I
hope
that
this
can
be
a
space
for
all
types
of
voices.
Okay,.
C
J
Thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
just
here
to
speak
out
in
favor
of
saving
the
pantages
theater.
I
think
I
know
a
lot
of
you
and
a
lot
of
you
know
that
I
care
deeply
about
our
community,
especially
our
cultural
community
and
arts
community,
and
you
know
I've.
I've
heard
also.
J
I
want
to
preface
this
by
saying
any
constructive
criticism
that
I'm
speeding,
that
I'm
going
to
say
is
not
directed
at
anyone
on
this
call
the
mayor
of
the
city
council,
I'm
not
saying
any
of
you
have
done
anything
wrong,
but
my
perspective
of
this
is
that
we
need
to
save
some
of
those
things
that
make
salt
lake
unique
and
cool
the
kind
of
things
that
makes
this
a
place
that
people
want
to
live.
J
J
J
We
will
make
the
money
back
through
different
in
different
ways,
but
especially
through
the
quality
of
life
that
the
arts
gives
our
community,
and
so
I
am
in
favor
of
supporting
that.
I
would
also
just
say:
I've
heard
the
narrative
that
we
can't
afford
to
save
this,
or
that
we've
tried
to
figure
it
out
and
we
just
couldn't,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
I've
personally
called
the
city
multiple
times
about
this,
this
theater
space,
and
even
before
that
calling
rick
howard
when
he
owned
the
property.
J
No
one
has
really
been
interested
in
actually
working
on
a
fundraising
campaign
for
this,
and
so
I
think,
opening
whether
the
city
retains
ownership
of
it
or
sells
it
to
someone
else,
I
think,
being
able
to
just
fundraise
for
the
project.
In
the
first
place
before
we
say
we
haven't
been
able
to
figure
out
how
to
fund
the
project
trying
to
be
the
first
step.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me.
C
K
Hello:
well
thanks
for
taking
the
time
here,
as
stated,
my
name
is
kevin
hartley
and
I
also
support
saving
and
restoring
the
utah
pantages
theater.
K
This
theater,
which
was
originally
built
in
1918,
though,
does
need
restorative
work
has
been
said
to
be
in
rather
great
shape,
for
restoration
by
experts
at
the
league
of
historic
american
theaters,
as
well
as
the
experts
at
our
sister
pantages
theaters
and
around
the
country
who
have
lent
their
well-informed
advice.
K
K
We
are
here
to
propose
a
realistic
plan
for
consideration
that
the
city
council
and
the
rda
board
has
not
seen
on
how
to
strategically
save
and
restore
this
theater,
as
well
as
a
detailed
plan
on
how
this
endeavor
can
generate
millions
of
dollars
in
revenue
each
year
for
the
city.
We
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
hear
our
passionate
statements
of
concern
and
we
ask
for
you
to
hold
a
public
meeting
in
review
to
review
this
new
restoration
proposal
to
save
the
utah
pantages.
L
Oops,
can
you
hear
me
now
yeah?
Thank
you
okay,
good
afternoon,
I'm
mckenna
taylor.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
just
to
echo
everyone's
comments,
they're
so
good.
I
am
here
to
support
the
preservation
and
saving
of
the
pantages
theater
and
to
reconsider
the
current
offer
you
have
out
and
to
open
up
a
public
meeting
to
review
the
new
offer
that
michael
and
save
the
pantages
theater
group
has
shared
with
you.
L
Instead
of
being
kind
of
repetitive
to
what
you've
already
heard,
I
I'll
talk
about
something
that
I
know
of.
I've
worked
with
sundance
film
festival
for
the
past
seven
years,
helping
them
book
event
spaces
for
the
festival
as
a
sponsor
as
a
private
event
space
and
about
two
years
ago
they
shared
this
comment
with
me,
saying
we're
really
worried
about
the
festival.
L
Moving
forward
park
city
has
basically
sold
off
all
the
places
that
we
usually
screen
and
hold
events
at
and
they've
created
condos
and
now
we
don't
have
enough
spaces
to
host
our
festival
anymore,
which
is
actually
a
really
big,
dramatic
concern
economically
for
the
community
of
park
city,
but,
additionally
of
utah.
It's
such
a
driver
and
cultural
hub,
but
on
top
of
that,
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
the
arts
and
preserving
the
arts
isn't
just
kind
of
a
fun
nice
thing
to
do
that,
pat
yourself
in
the
back.
L
It
really
does
stimulate
the
economy
and
our
our
community
as
a
whole.
When
we
keep
and
preserve
these
spaces,
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
historic
spaces,
you
just
can't
get
them
back.
So
while
we
could
make
another
theater
down
the
street,
we
can't
make
another
pantages.
We
have
this
opportunity
to
support
our
cultural
heritage
to
agree
with
angelo
earlier
from
the
brown
berets
additionally,
affordable,
housing,
the
affordable
housing
that
this
group
is
offering
the
developers
is,
is
only
single
studio
apartments
and
that's
not
affordable
housing.
L
C
Thank
you
and
we
do
have
one
more
speaker
for
general
comment.
We
have
tag
yelling.
J
C
Hi,
it's
your
turn
to
give
comment.
Thank
you.
J
J
I
am
strongly
against
this
and
in
addition
to
what
our
other
neighbors
have
said
about
the
pandey
pantages
via
theater,
I'm
also
against
the
redevelopment
of
that
as
well,
and
you
need
to
have
like
real
artists
and
real
people
that
are
part
of
the
community
that
build
the
community
that
invest
and
build
economy
of
salt
lake
city
to
also
attend
the
arts,
and
so
for
the.
J
There
are
many
artists
and
many
families
that
you
will
be
displaced,
and
so
I'm
calling
also
to
see
that
the
way
that
this
meeting
is
set
up
is
very
frustrating
and
elitist
or
I'm
working
class
people
cannot
attend.
So,
even
though
I'm
coming
here,
I'm
coming
here
with,
like
hundreds
and
hundred
of
other
voices
who
cannot
make
the
meeting,
let
alone
also
have
access
to
a
smartphone
in
that
way.
So
I
am
asking
you
mayor
and
city
council
members.
You
are
there
to
serve
us.
J
We
put
you
in
that
place.
So
please
get
on
your
I.t
people
to
find
a
different
way
that
is
friendly
for
folks
to
meet,
and
please
do
not
allow
this
development.
We
do
not.
We
need
land.
Our
children
need
a
place
to
play,
not
all
of
it.
We
we're
not
trying
to
be
san
francisco,
we're
not
trying
to
be
even
west
jordan.
We
want
a
city
that
is
beautiful
and
reflects
brown
and
black
and
queer,
and
the
the
not
diversity.
F
Thank
you
calling
in
today
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
panchagis
theater.
I
know
I
know
everybody
on
this
board
the
city
council
members.
The
mayor
are
really
saddened
by
how
this
has
all
kind
of
gone
down,
and
I
I
know,
based
on
your
comments
and
speaking
with
some
of
you,
that
this
was
not
the
outcome
you
were
hoping
for
and
so
to
the
public
that
is
listening,
know
that
that
these
people
do
not
want
to
see
this
theater
go
away,
but
they
are
dealing
with
some
realities.
F
F
My
my
request
would
be
that
we
learn
from
this
experience
and
put
policies
and
procedures
in
place
that
will
avoid
these
obviously
horrible
outcomes.
Again,
none
of
you
want
to
see
this
theater
gone
yet
here
you
are
sitting
watching
it
go
and
sure
some
of
those
decision
makers
are
no
longer
in
the
room,
but
there
are
decision
makers
still
in
this
room
that
can
have
an
effect
going
forward
and
making
meaningful
change
to
avoid
things
like
this
happening.
F
One
of
those
changes
could
be,
for
instance,
when
a
city
asset
is
in
our
hands.
We
shouldn't
just
give
it
away
and
give
away
our
leverage.
We
now
have
the
developer
coming
back
and
asking
for
more
money.
Anybody
who,
who
sat
from
a
distance
and
watched
us,
knew
that
that
was
exactly
what
they
were
going
to
do.
A
future
to
agree
in
the
future
is
not
an
agreement.
F
You
do
not
have
unless
it's
in
writing
and
ready
to
roll,
and
you
guys
are
on
the
same
page
and
it's
reduced
down
to
writing.
You
don't
have
an
agreement
in
place,
and
this
is
exactly
what
was
going
to
happen,
and
this
could
have
been
avoided,
and
I
ask
that
we
please
learn
from
this
experience
and
moving
forward.
We
can
save
those
things.
The
members
of
the
public
who
want
this
saved
yep,
this
one's
gone,
look
at
other
projects,
look
at
other
things
get
involved
earlier,
so
that
we
can
avoid.
C
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
dennis
fuller,
followed
by
ikona
vi,
dennis,
go
ahead.
F
Hi,
oh
awesome,
hi.
My
name
is
dennis
fuller.
I
grew
up
in
arizona,
but
I
moved
here
in
2007
to
for
the
snow
and
the
snowboarding
and
skiing
and
whatnot,
and
I
stayed
for
the
community
and
the
culture
and
the
arts.
You
know
and
ended
up
getting
married
and
having
kids
and
stuff.
So
I
mean
anyways
everything
I
mean
we're
all
here,
because
we
love
utah
and
whatnot,
I'm
a
composer,
so
I
make
my
living
off
of
making
music
and
producing
music
for
other
people
anyways.
F
I
wanted
to
echo
some
of
the
other
things
that,
like
alex
what
alexander
woods
said
earlier
about
the
uniqueness
of
utah,
I
mean
it's,
you
know
not
to
be
an
echo
chamber
for
myself.
Even
it's
it's
why
I've
stayed
here.
It's
like.
We
all
love
it
and
whatnot,
but
I
would
I'm
in
favor
of
trying
to
save
this
pantages
theater
and,
to
be
honest,
I
didn't
even
know
it
existed.
F
You
know
a
couple
months
ago.
I
would
always
walk
by
that
utah
arts
sign,
and
I
was
like
that.
That's
a
cool
thing.
I
wonder
why
that's
still
here,
but
and
then
I
see
these
pictures
of
it
and
everything
and
I'm
just
blown
away
at
how
beautiful
this
is.
It's
like
a
sister
theater,
obviously
to
the
tacoma
one
and
all
the
other
ones,
and
it's
kind
of
like
having
imagine
having
capital
theater
in
this
place
and
the
eccles
theater
all
within
a
block
of
each
other.
F
We
can
just
have
this
amazing,
flourishing
arts
district
downtown
I
mean
I
I
the
only
comparison
I
want
to
try
and
make
in
the
next
little
bit.
That
I
have
is
imagine
all
of
your
guys's
favorite
albums.
I
mean
you
have
abby
road
and
you
have
bookends
from
simon
garfunkel
or
you
have
taylor
swift's
new,
album
for
what
all
that
and
whatnot
imagine
if,
if
they
made
those
albums
and
then
deleted
them
from
existence-
and
we
couldn't
hear
those
anymore
and
I
and
that's
really
being
a
composer
and
a
musician,
that's
the
only
comparison.
F
I
can
really
make
to
us
not
being
able
to
have
this
theater
again
I
mean
we
can't
repurpose
it.
You
know.
C
Thank
you,
and
next
we
have
icona
tavai
ikona
go
ahead.
M
Hello
hi.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
model
lava
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
come
on.
I
am
against
the
causal
development
project
and
dal
and
jolly,
but
I
think
like
thinking
in
the
past,
you
know
year
2020,
on
how
many
losses
like
that
we
have
that
year,
how
many
lives
we
lost
and
then
coming
and
thinking
about
2021.
M
What
are
we
gonna
do
to
be
able
to
gain
those
lives
back
with
the
people
that
we
have
that
are
in
this
world
today,
living
in
these
areas
that
that
we
have
built
communities
for
for
many
years,
you
have
different
generations
that
are
there
and
then
to
to
develop
an
area
where,
like
you,
want
to
take
it
away
from
them
and
then
for
them
to
like
struggle,
because
then
financially
we're
not
even
there.
But
then
we
try
so
hard,
and
I'm
not
only
speaking
about
that
but
like
for
the
theater
for
everybody
who's
on
here.
M
M
But
thank
you
and
I
I
hope
that
you
you
allow
that,
to
you,
know
soak
in
your
heart,
as
well
as
everybody
who
was
in
this
call
today,
because
there's
so
many
lives
that
that
we've
lost
and
even
till
this
date
2021.
We
still
have
lives
that
are
being
lost
to
racism,
to
anything
that
that
that
you
see
out
there
so
just
like
what
can
we
do
to
to
to
do
things
different
and
change
and
don't
build
this?
Thank
you.
My
my
time
is
up.
N
Just
have
a
point
of
personal
privilege,
and
I
wanted
to
clarify
that,
first
of
all
that
I'm
understanding
this
correctly
to
my
understanding,
kozo
apartments
has
no
rda
involvement
and
that
it
was
approved
by
the
planning,
commission
and
the
city
council
had
no
decision
to
make
on
that
of
that.
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly?
N
Just
for
my
my
clarification
and
also
the
public
that
that's
not
a
project
that
has
any
city
involvement,
it
was
just
an
application
of
the
planning
commission
and
the
application
stopped
at
planning
commission
and
will
never
come
to
city
council.
Is
that
accurate.
B
I
would
like
to
ask
danny
wells
if
you
could
answer
that
if
we
have
any,
if
the
idea
has
any
involvement
with
this
project.
O
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
director
mono.
No,
the
rda
has
no
involvement
in
the
kosovo
apartments
project.
N
Thank
you
and
I'll
just
add
on
to
that
comment
that
I,
my
heart
goes
out
to
anyone,
that's
losing
their
house
for
any
reason,
and
I
am
really
sorry
that
that's
happening.
I
I
understand
that
that's
part
of
the
concern
with
that
project
and
I
wish
there
was
something
that
we
as
the
council
could
do.
But
in
this
case
I
don't
believe
that
we
have
any
official
involvement
in
that
project.
I
Sorry,
madam
chair,
can
I
just
add
to
that
really
quick
for
sure
if
there
are
any
residents
on
the
call
or
in
the
meeting
that
have
further
questions
about
the
kozo
house,
which
is
in
my
district
and
specifically
about
displacement
or
resources
to
find
to
relocate
to
I've
been
working
with
one
or
two
residents
about
it,
and
I'm
happy
to
share
that
information
with
other
residents
as
well.
So
thank
you.
B
C
We
do
have
one
more
speaker,
council.
We
have
carolyn
lambert
carolyn,
your
mic
is
unmuted,
go
ahead.
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
carolyn
lambert.
I
would
like
to
speak
also
towards
the
preservation
of
the
utah
pantages
theater.
Summing
up
some
well-made
comments
with
more
of
a
passionate
pleading
for
the
good
of
the
people
in
the
state.
I
appreciate
the
efforts
of
everyone
who
have
who
has
tried
and
all
who
are
seeking
to
do
what
is
best
and
most
prudent,
and
I
hope
that
careful
consideration
will
be
given
as
we
move
forward
and
decisions
are
made.
E
History,
beauty
and
culture
are
worth
keeping
are
learning
from
the
past
and
love
and
care
and
thoughtful
living
and
grasping
and
giving
light
filled,
soul
and
substance
critical
to
human
progress
and
potential
preservation
is
purposeful
and
provident
beauty
and
keeping
and
caring
bright
future
and
cherished
community
are
a
keen
concern
of
mine
with
an
eye
toward
the
appreciation
and
preservation
of
history
and
protecting
love
legacy
of
the
past
after
eons
of
wandering
the
well-traveled
road
road,
my
family
so
grateful
to
have
returned
to
our
unmatched
and
much-loved
homeland,
a
unique
treasure,
but
we've
seen
a
dramatic
rise
in
less
than
the
most
thoughtful
development
over
the
past
many
years.
E
E
B
Thank
you
amanda
and
thank
you,
everybody
that
took
the
time
to
to
make
comments.
Today
we
will
proceed
with
our
meeting
and
we
are
at
item
b,
which
is
a
public
hearing.
Individuals
may
speak
to
the
word
once
once
per
public
hearing
topic
for
two
minutes.
However,
written
comments
are
always
accepted
and
item
b1
is
a
resolution
amending
the
nine
line
community
reinvestment
project
area
budget
amanda.
Do
we
have
any
body
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item.
C
C
Sorry,
just
one
second,
oh
madison
is
not
on
the
call.
So
next
we
have
mckenna
taylor
mckenna
go
ahead.
C
B
Then
we
will
move
on
to
item
c
redevelopment
agency
business.
We
will
be
briefed
about
a
resolution
amending
the
nine
line,
community
reinvestment
project
area
budget
and
at
the
table
we
have
ben
lutky,
danny
walls,
tammy
hanseker
and
lauren
prissy.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
was
going
to
refer
to
ben
if
you
wanted
to
tee
this
up,
if
not
we're
happy
to
jump
in
just.
F
A
quick
introduction
that
this
is
the
last
step
for
the
rda
board
to
implement
the
nine
line
project
area.
So
a
little
bit
of
good
news,
the
county,
the
school
district
and
the
city
are
all
participating
in
the
project
area.
And
if
the
board
approves
this
item
today,
it
will
update
the
budget
in
the
project
area
plan
to
reflect
the
terms
and
the
participation
of
those
three
taxing
entities.
O
And
madam
chair,
I
have
nothing
to
add
to
that
introduction
other
than
to
say
both
tammy
and
lauren
are
available
to
provide
any
specific
details
or
answer
any
questions
that
board
members
may
have.
B
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
but
already
staff.
If
anybody
could
just
give
us
a
very
clear,
concise,
what's
the
next
step,
we've
had
sort
of
this
going
on
for
a
lot
of
years.
As
you
all
know,
you
worked
hard
on
this
for
a
long
time.
If
we
approve
today
what
are
the
subsequent
steps
until
this
is
ready
to
be
implemented.
O
I'll
jump
in
and
say
there
are
no
subsequent
steps.
This
is
the
final
step.
We
are
scheduled
to
receive
our
first
tax
increment
from
this
current
tax
year,
2021,
which
would
we
would
receive
in
a
year
and
with
this
approval
it
would
be
a
fully
functioning,
fully
funded
rda
project
area
that
is
now
open
for
us
to
carry
out
and
implement
the
parts
of
the
plant.
P
What
what
role
do
the
conditions
of
the
adu
subsidy
and
the
anti-displacement
policy
have
to
do
with
implementation
of
this
project
area?.
O
Q
Q
There
were
those
three
contingencies
built
into
the
county's
approval,
and
once
we
hit
those
it
can
be
an
administrative
decision
by
the
county
to
bump
our
tax
increment
up
from
50
collection
to
60
collection
and
then
at
year
10.
I
believe
we
have
the
opportunity
to
go
back
to
the
county
once
again,
it
would
require
county
council
approval,
but
that
would
bump
our
participation
up
to
75.
P
P
What
can
we
do?
Are
we
waiting
for
those
to
be
done
to
really
implement
our
things
so
to
speak?.
O
No,
that's
that's
to
that
question.
What
we
can
do
is
obviously,
as
part
of
the
housing
policy
that
you
will
take,
hopefully
take
action
on
later
today
between
that
and
our
funding
allocation
policy,
you
as
a
board
can
guide
the
agency's
efforts
and
and
the
targeting
of
those
funds
to
address
any
concerns
or
goals
that
would
be
in
those
plans
even
before
they
are
implemented.
So
you
can.
You
can
set
that
as
a
priority
right
now.
That
is
we
work
within
the
area.
B
B
O
Yeah
we
damn,
we
can
speak
to
it
if
you
want
to
get
into
even
more
detail,
but
we
anticipate
bringing
that
discussion
to
the
board
to
set
those
priorities
for
the
housing
allocation
funds
for
next
year,
and
so,
as
part
of
that
conversation,
whatever
objectives
and
goals,
the
board
would
like
to
infuse
into
that
as
we
implement
those
funds.
We
can
certainly
include
that
into
the
plan
at
that
time.
P
I'll
revisit
a
small
group
meeting.
Thank
you
manager.
B
B
Right,
I
don't
see
anybody's
hands.
Let
me
see
on
my
second
noodle,
maybe
all
right,
okay,
we're
going
to
move
on
then
to
our
next
item.
B
O
B
P
Madam
chair
on
motion,
I
moved
to
the
rda
board
adopter
resolution
amending
the
nine
line
community
reinvestment
area
budget
and
updating
the
project
area
plan.
Second,.
B
Right,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
board
member
johnson
and
second
by
board
member.
I
will
roll
call
this
and,
let's
start
with
mr
rogers.
Yes,
mr
johnston,
yes,
mr
wharton.
E
O
R
B
Are
we
okay
to
move
on
to
the
next
one?
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
did
that
right.
Then,
okay,
moving
on
we're.
Moving
on
to
the
to
the
item
number
two
resolution:
provisions
to
the
real
property
disposition,
policy,
follow-up,
danny
and
court.
O
Okay.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
item
is
to
consider
adoption
of
a
resolution
revising
the
agency's
real
property
disposition
policy.
The
proposed
revisions
include
authorizing
long-term
ground
leases
as
a
form
of
disposition,
as
well
as
adding
restrictions
to
how
the
agency
disposes
of
property
to
adjacent
property
owners.
This
is
a
follow-up
to
the
briefing
in
november
and
subsequent
to
that,
we've
had
small
group
meetings
with
directors
and
consulted
with
legal
counsel
on
these
changes.
O
S
Yeah,
as
danny
had
mentioned,
this
is
a
follow-up
to
our
conversation,
and
it
seemed
like
at
that
time
that
the
the
first
revision
that
was
proposed
regarding
long-term
ground
leases,
it
seems
like
there
was
general
support
for
that.
But
the
board
did
want
to
discuss
further
the
portion
of
the
policy
related
to
long-term
or
excuse
me
related
to
exclusive
negotiations
for
dispositional
property
to
an
adjacent
property
owner.
S
So
we
have
had
some
subsequent
conversations
with
board
members.
As
daniel
mentioned
the
per
the
policy
that
exists
right
now.
The
rda
can
sell
or
dispose
of
real
property
in
two
ways,
and
just
a
reminder
of
that.
S
We
do
it
competitively,
which
is
probably
the
most
common
and
that's
typically
through
a
request
for
proposals
or
a
request
for
qualifications,
but
we
can,
for
the
policy,
also
exclusively
negotiate
for
the
sale
of
a
property,
but
only
if
one
of
six
criteria
is
met
and
one
of
those
criteria
is
disposition
to
an
adjacent
property
owner
to
facilitate
redevelopment
objectives,
as
defined
in
the
project
area.
S
Strategic
plan,
the
language
that
we
have
discussed
adding
to
that
is-
and
it's
in
your
packet
in
red
line,
form
it'd
just
be
one
sentence,
and
it
would
say
if
the
property
being
disposed
of
is
a
tier
one
property.
The
price
should
be
at
least
90
percent
of
the
fair
market
value
as
determined
by
the
disposition
price
protocol.
S
So
the
the
full
proviso,
then
in
the
policy
would
say
you
can
do
a
disposition
to
an
adjacent
property
owner
to
facilitate
redevelopment
objectives,
as
defined
in
the
project
area
strategic
plan.
If
the
property
being
disposed
of
is
a
tier
one
property,
the
price
should
be
at
least
90
percent
of
the
fair
market
value.
S
Just
sort
of
would
cut
out
that
whole
process
and
then,
lastly,
we
feel
like
it
sort
of
retains
some
flexibility,
we're
still
able
to
exclusively
negotiate
with
adjacent
property
owners
for
tier
two
properties,
and
I
think
that
is
important,
because
it
is
an
important
tool
from
time
to
time
as
we're
disposing
of
properties
to
to
be
able
to
work
with
a
neighboring
property
owner,
and
this
would
preserve
the
ability
to
do
that
with
tier
two
properties.
S
So
that's
really
the
edit
kind
of
the
revision
to
the
revision.
If
you
will
presented
in
november
and
madam
chair,
if
it's
helpful,
I
can
go
back
and
and
review
the
whole
long-term
ground.
Lease
changes
to
the
policy
as
well.
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you.
B
We
are
a
little
bit
behind
on
schedule
board
members.
Would
you
like
that
for
clarification,
or
should
we
just
talk
about
things
in
general
or
this
item?
B
If
you're
a
yes,
don't
I
don't
see
anybody's
hands
up
so
thanks
court?
So
then
I
will
open
it
up
to
discussion.
If
anybody
else
has
more
questions
about
it
or
if
we're
ready
to
adopt
this
resolution
for
the
property,
this
position
we
can
move
forward
as
well.
N
O
That
I
think
that
one
qualified
under
the
fact
that
it
was
called
out
specifically
within
city
plans
and
goals,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say.
P
I
just
want
to
ask
a
scenario
about
the
90.
Fair
market
value
for
tier
one
properties
for
sale
can
help
me
understand
where
that
what's
there's
some
historical
precedent,
I'm
guessing
for
that
90
threshold
versus
100
or
some
other
number.
I
hope
you
understand
that.
O
Yeah,
oh
court,
you
want
to
jump
in
please.
S
I
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
the
the
90
number
is
tied
and
precedent
that
exists
in
the
policy
now
in
the
disposition
price
protocol
when
we
sell
properties,
so
the
administration
has
the
ability
to
discount
up
to
10
of
a
discount
and
anything
beyond
that
has
to
come
back
to
the
board
for
approval.
So
that's
where
the
90
number
sort
of
tied
to
within
the
policy
right
now-
and
it's
just
based
in
the
in
the
kind
of
notion
that
in
a
real
estate
transaction
you
need
to
build.
S
You
need
a
bit
of
wiggle
room
items
come
up,
sometimes
during
due
diligence
or
in
the
negotiation
process.
Where
you,
you
need
to
negotiate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
price.
P
It's
sort
of
I'm
trying
to
put
this
in
real
sort
of
experience
here,
because
tier
one
are
really
our
most
valuable
largest,
most
prominent
properties.
For
the
most
part,
I'm
assuming
here,
we
may
want
to
look
at
a
tighter
threshold
to
come
back
to
the
board
for
discussion
on
these
things.
I
don't
know
what
other
board
members
think.
P
I
think
these
are
going
to
be
high
profile
cases
and
I'd
hate
to
see
us
do
a
discount
for
for
reasonable
reasons
court
I
mean
obviously
negotiations
and
things
especially
due
diligence
without
having
a
good
explanation
for
the
public
in
some
instances.
That's
what
I'm
sort
of
thinking
through
other
downside.
P
P
A
viable
mechanism
to
keep
people
appraised
if
we're
gonna
lower
the
cost
of
a
property,
so
it
doesn't
come
back
to
sort
of
haunt
people
later
on.
O
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
on
that,
I
think
you
know.
I
think
you
have
that
mechanism
within
the
policy
now
that
that
is
the
requirement
of
staff
to
come
to
the
board
and
present
a
land
disposition
plan
before
we
offer
property
and
within
that
plan
is
where
we
would
divulge
to
whatever
extent
we
are
proposing
to
either
discount
the
property
or
to
what
extent
the
board
may
need
to
approve
a
discount,
and
so
that's
kind
of
that
announcement
of
prior
to
us
either
marketing
a
property
or
closing
on
a
property.
O
That
is
the
public
presentation
of
what
the
plan
is
and
then
that
allows
for
comment
and
any
input
from
the
board
going
back
to
the
10,
as
court
said.
I
think
that
I
mean
we
probably
don't
hit
that
threshold.
Very
often
I
mean,
if
we're
going
to
do
a
discount
on
a
property
for
something
like
affordable
housing
or
true
public
benefit.
O
Chances
are
that's
going
to
far
exceed
that
10
and
it's
going
to
come
back
before
you
for
approval
that
10
percent
as
court
said
that,
if
we're
truly
looking
at
acquiring
a
property
or
doing
exchange
within
property
owners,
that's
really
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
doing
so.
Whether
those
are
you
know
who
pays
for
some
of
the
due
diligence
and
site
costs
who
pays
for
closing
costs?
O
It's
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
becomes
a
bargaining
chip
in
the
negotiation
as
much
as
just
provide
us
as
the
administration,
the
flexibility
we
need
just
so
that
if
it's
one
dollar
less
than
you
know
fair
market
value,
we
don't
have
to
come
and
get
board
approval.
We
can
operate
within
this
policy
and
know
exactly
where
that
limitation
is
before.
We
need
to
come
and
get
approval.
P
I'm
not
trying
to
be
a
miser,
madam
chair
necessarily,
although
maybe
I
just
am
my
part
of
my
thinking.
How
often
do
we
revisit
this
policy?
I
guess
because
right
now,
in
the
current
market,
I
would
hate
to
see
us
go
very
low
at
all
in
anything
because
it's
investing
so
quickly.
I
know
in
a
few
years
it
may
change.
How
often
do
we
revisit
this
policy?
I
guess
the
rda
staff
sort
of
when
you
go
to
negotiations.
We
sort
of
trust,
you're
doing
highest
and
best
value,
it's
in
all
that
you
can.
O
O
We
can
make
sure
we're
real
clear
that
leases
are
included
as
part
of
that
disposition
and
then
two
it
was
done
at
the
request
of
council
members
as
part
of
looking
at
the
utah
theater
deal,
which
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
you
know
the
the
initial
discussion
on
utah
theater
came
about
before
this
policy
was
in
place,
and
so
you
know
doing
doing
these
changes
now
is,
is
kind
of
that
update
of
looking
back.
B
Go
ahead,
we'll
remember
wharton.
I
Thanks,
madam
chair
yeah,
I
think
I
mean
I
was
one
of
the
the
louder
voices
on
this
and
because
I
think
so
much
of
the
frustration
that
we've
heard
from
the
public
about
the
utah
theater
is
that
they
feel,
like
this
exception
in
rda's
policies,
was
not
didn't,
give
them
the
transparency
that
that
they
want
and
that
I
think
that
they
deserve.
I
And
and
so
after
you
know
several
discussions.
I
I
feel
satisfied
that
this
fulfills
at
that
time,
the
rda
board
made
a
commitment
that
we
would
revisit
this
policy
and
bring
forth
the
kind
of
transparency
that
the
public
wanted
to
see
and
that
we
would
be
accountable
as
one
of
the
callers
even
said
today,
to
learn
from
this
whole
situation,
and
I
think
there
are
lots
of
lessons
to
be
learned.
But
I
feel
like
this
does
satisfy
that.
I
That
commitment-
and
I
I
do
want
to
give
to
thank
rda
staff,
for
you-
know,
going
back
and
making
changes
to
it
after
you
came
to
us
with
the
first
one
and
I
didn't
feel
like
it
fulfilled
that
commitment
and
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
just
another
opportunity
to
kind
of
speak
to
it.
In
I
mean
I
don't
want
this
to
be
like
just
about
the
utah
theater,
but
I
in
a
lot
of
ways.
I
It
is
so
if
and
danny
or
court
wanted
kind
of
speak
to
that,
like
in
the
context
of
the
utah
theater
and
in
the
context
of
the
commitment
that
we
made,
but
also
recognizing
that
the
utah
theater
was
a
very
unique
situation.
I
I
just
wanted
to.
If
you
would
comment
on
that
more
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
who
hasn't
been
a
part
of
the
deliberations,
and
why
you
think
that
this
this
iteration
of
the
policy
does
fulfill
that
commitment.
O
O
Is
there
there
probably
would
have
been
more
discussions
up
front
in
terms
of
us
presenting
what
the
proposed
disposition
plan
was
for
the
theater
and
entering
those
initial
negotiations
with
the
adjacent
property
owner,
so
that
would
have
been
done
as
part
of
that
land
disposition
policy
or
not
policy,
that
land
disposition,
presentation
and
strategy,
and
that
would
have
begun
the
public
comment
or
the
the
initial
public
presentation
of
of
the
property
and
the
project
so
that
that
probably
would
have
really
addressed
a
lot
of
the
public's
concerns
that
this
was
you
know,
being
done
outside
of
the
public
eye.
O
But
I
think
the
biggest
thing
that
this
proposed
change
makes
is
that
if
we
as
an
agency,
are
going
to
negotiate
with
an
adjacent
property
under
that,
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
if
it
is
sold
at
90
or
above
a
fair
market
value
and
so
to
the
extent
with
utah
theater,
where
that
was
a
land
discount.
That
was
in
exchange
for
the
public
benefits
of
affordable
housing,
the
mid-block,
walkway
and
preservation
of
the
elements.
O
Obviously,
we
probably
still
would
have
identified
those
public
benefits
of
what
we
wanted
to
accomplish
with
the
disposition
and
heinz,
I
anticipate
would
fully
respond
as
they
do,
but
it
would
also
give
the
opportunity
to
others
if
they
wanted
to.
You
know
have
the
opportunity
to
bid
on
it.
They
could
have.
B
O
Yes,
this
this
item
is
consideration
for
approving
the
resolution.
B
T
B
E
B
N
B
We
we're
going
to
move
on
to
sorry
we're
running
super
behind
schedule,
so
there
are
some
items,
one
or
two
items
that
we
might
have
to
bump.
But
if
we
can
do
number
three,
the
housing
development
loan
program
follow
up,
follow
up
in
five
minutes.
That
would
greatly
help
us
so
that
we
don't
have
to
bump
somebody
else.
E
O
That
is
great.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board.
This
is
a
resolution
for
the
board's
consideration,
and
essentially
this
is
following
up
on
the
recent
approval
of
the
rda
housing
allocation
funds
policy.
This
is
the
next
step
in
creating
a
centralized
housing
development
resource
within
a
formalized
program.
Tammy's
been
working
on
this
and
is
the
expert
on
it.
We're
happy
to
do
any
level
of
presentation
or
if
it's
at
the
wish
of
the
board,
we
can
just
jump
right
into
questions
and
and
follow
up
as
part
of
that.
Q
Q
Let
me
fast
forward
oops.
I
went
too
far
so
the
first
revision,
if
you
remember
from
last
month,
the
policy
has
a
set
of
intent,
statements
that
are
pretty
broad
in
nature
and
then
the
idea
is
to
come
back
to
the
board
each
year
and
identify
an
annual
funding
strategy
with
more
specific
policy
objectives
so
based
on
feedback
from
the
board,
we
included
the
text
in
purple
to
clarify
that
we
want
to
support
affordable
housing
for
various
household
sizes,
ranging
from
single
person
to
families.
Q
The
next
revision
was
adding
a
new
intent
statement
that
reads:
support
an
array
of
scale
of
project
types,
including
detached
housing,
accessory
dwelling
units,
row,
houses
and
small
to
large
scale,
buildings
that
contribute
to
neighborhood
context
and
livability.
This
was
in
direct
response
to
some
feedback
from
director
mono.
Q
Another
revision
that
is
now
included
in
the
policy
is
a
new
section
on
loan
modifications
and
we
basically
copied
this
from
the
existing
rda
loan
program
policy.
This
lays
out
an
administrative
process
for
us
to
defer
or
forbear
payments
for
up
to
one
year
which
the
rda
actually
utilized
through
our
loans
through
the
rda
loan
program.
Q
Q
We
also
modified
the
base
interest
rate
that,
rather
than
being
a
static
interest
rate,
it's
tied
to
the
u.s
treasury
yield
curve
rate
with
a
maximum
cap,
so
that
will
allow
it
to
follow
market
trends
within
reason
we
built
in
that
cap.
So
if
interest
rates
do
go
up
quite
high,
we
don't
want
to
be
a
burden
on
these
affordable
housing
projects
and
then
clarification
on
the
affordability
restriction.
Q
We
wanted
to
clarify
that
it's
both
rent
and
income.
The
rda
does
this
anyway,
but
just
to
be
extra
upfront
and
transparent,
we're
not
just
restricting
rents,
we're
also
requiring
that
developers,
income,
qualify,
families
going
into
these
units,
so
we're
making
sure
the
units
are
going
to
households
that
actually
need
the
affordable
housing
and
then
we
did
modify
we
put
in.
Q
30
years
was
a
little
long
for
that
model,
and
most
communities
around
the
country
have
a
little
bit
of
a
shorter
time
period
for
those
shared
equity
models
and
home
ownership,
and
though
that's
the
bulk
of
the
changes
in
the
policy.
The
policy
resolution
has
been
approved
as
to
form
and
it's
in
your
packet.
If
you
would
like
to
make
action
on
it
today.
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
it
did
go
to
the
redevelopment
advisory
committee
earlier
this
month
and
they
unanimously
voted
to
recommend
approval
of
the
policy
as
presented.
B
B
No.
No.
I
only
have
one
question
on
the
on
the
size
of
the
I'm
not
sure
if
it
said
size
of
the
household
or
it
said
single
persons
to
families,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
director
dugan
talked
about.
I
requested,
and
I
think
I
was
interested
too.
When
we
say
families
would
we
consider
a
two-person
householder
family,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
we
need
to
clarify
we're
looking
for
housing
for
families,
you
know
that
will
accommodate
families
of
more
than
two
people.
B
You
know
more
than
three
or
four
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
at
this
point
that
needs
to
be
clarified
at
this
point
or
if
it's
a
policy
thing
later
go
ahead.
Please.
Q
We
could
add
language
on
the
end
of
that
sentence
that
reads:
families
of
various
sizes
on
an
annual
basis.
That's
where
we
will
be
setting
the
funding
priorities
for
that
year
and
that's
where
we
can
get
more
specific,
like
prioritize
bedrooms
of
three
to
four
bedrooms,
get
more
specific
with
the
unit
type,
but
these
are
more
general
priorities
that
will
live
with
the
policy
over
time,
but
we
could
add
families
of
various
sizes.
On
the
end
of
that
sentence,.
B
I
would
I
would
like
that,
let's
do
that,
so
you
need
also
for
us
to
adopt
this
resolution
today
correct
if
you're
comfortable,
if
you're
comfortable
so
board
members
do.
I
have
a
emotion
or
for
more
discussions
here.
Yeah
go
ahead.
I.
R
F
Sec
with
that,
the
wording
that
tammy
mentioned.
B
P
B
E
B
E
B
Yes
and
I'm
a
yes
and
it
passes
unanimously,
we're
on
item
number
four
and
as
a
reminder
to
what
I
already
mentioned.
This
next
briefing
on
the
utah
theater
is
focused
on
the
green
open
space
the
world
required
as
part
of
the
proposed
project,
we're
going
to
go
on
work
on
this
one,
and
hopefully
we
can
do
this
in
15
minutes
or
less,
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
move
item
number
five
to
the
april
april
meeting.
B
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll
turn
it
over
to
tammy
here
in
a
second
to
run
through
the
presentation
and
then
dusty,
harris
and
daniel
stevens
are
available
from
heinz
development
for
any
questions.
O
As
you've
stated,
this
is
a
presentation
of
information
to
fulfill
the
contingency
that
was
included
as
part
of
the
board.
Approval
of
the
sales
terms.
Specifically,
this
address
is
the
open
space
contingency
that
was
defined
by
the
board
as
part
of
that
approval,
so
tammy's
got
some
slides
that
she
can
go
through
quickly
and
then
we
can
obviously
open
up
to
any
questions
of
staff
or
other
representatives
from
hein,
as
the
board
desires.
Q
All
right,
thanks
danny,
I
think,
we've
all
seen
this
map
several
times
the
utah
theater
on
main
street.
The
kearns
building
owned
by
heinz,
is
to
the
north
of
the
property
the
background
we
also
went
through
last
month,
so
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it.
The
rda
acquired
the
property
in
2010.
Q
Q
The
board
approved
the
resolution
authorizing
these
sales
pricing
terms,
with
the
public
benefits
of
affordable
housing,
with
a
minimum
of
10
percent
of
the
units
restricted
to
between
60
and
80
percent.
Ami
heinz
is
moving
forward
with
this.
They
have
a
mix
of
studio,
one-bedroom
and
two-bedroom,
affordable
units,
a
mid-block
walkway
that
extends
from
main
street
to
the
open
space
and
historic
repurposing
of
theater
elements.
Q
In
addition
to
those
three
public
benefits
I
just
outlined,
the
rda
board
put
two
additional
contingencies
on
which
we
have
spoken
about
today,
so
I
won't
go
into
a
lot
of
detail:
the
historic
documentation
contingency
that
was
fulfilled
in
february.
So
today,
the
last
contingency
that
needs
to
be
addressed
pursuant
to
the
board's
resolution
is
the
open
space,
so
we're
here
to
present
plans
for
the
open
space.
Q
The
board
also
indicated
in
their
resolution
that,
prior
to
closing
the
board
of
directors
could
consider
providing
additional
incentives
to
the
developer
or,
through
the
city
council,
related
to
the
open
space
that
was
contemplated
by
the
board.
There
is
not
an
additional
funding
request
moving
forward
today,
so
this
is
just
informational,
so
the
open
space
contingency,
as
I
just
said.
If
the
board
wants
to
provide
direction
to
further
explore
enhanced
design
elements,
we
can
work
with
heinz
on
what
that
would
look
like
as
contemplated
through
the
board's
contingency.
Q
But
by
submitting
this
information,
the
parties
can
proceed
to
closing
on
the
property
once
contractual
obligations
are
fulfilled,
so
getting
into
the
project
design.
Here's
the
the
revised
and
updated
design
of
the
tower
here's
a
list
of
the
uses,
it's
368
feet.
31
stories
contains
a
mix
of
amenity,
space,
retail
and
commercial
there's
an
amenity
deck
and
different
outdoor
spaces
for
residents
and
visitors
to
experience.
Q
Here's
another
view
of
the
tower
and
the
park
space
in
in
looking
at
the
the
park
space.
Q
Q
We
all
know
and
likely
have
visited
the
high
line
in
new
york
city,
a
place
that
provides
various
types
of
social
activities,
giving
people
a
reason
to
come
to
the
space
and
return
to
the
space.
This
is
a
public
space
in
philadelphia,
a
place
that
is
comfortable,
safe
and
clean,
with
a
unique
identity,
an
example
of
a
public
space
that
they
drew
inspiration
from
in
philadelphia,
another
one
in
chicago,
and
then
they
also
looked
at
ways
to
incorporate
elements
for
children
and
families.
This
is
a
playground
in
canada
and
one
in
new
york
city.
Q
So
in
in
looking
at
the
current
design
working
within
the
current
project
budget,
they
were
able
to
factor
a
lot
of
these
elements
into
the
design.
Here
is
a
view
from
main
street
with
the
mid-block
connection,
which
will
have
a
public
easement
terraced
and
going
up
to
the
open
space.
The
elevator
currently
is
tucked
around
next
to
the
building,
so
the
park
space
will
be
ada,
accessible.
Q
And
here
is
a
view
of
the
park
space
providing
a
lot
of
those
elements.
I
talked
about
places
for
people
to
gather
and
socialize
various
places
for
different
activities.
Q
The
numbers
for
the
park
are
2.5
million,
combining
hard
and
soft
costs
into
the
construction
of
the
park
and
then
about
69
000
annually
for
operating
and
maintenance.
This
will
be
fully
borne
by
the
project
without
any
additional
incentive
from
the
rda.
If
the
board
wishes
to
talk
about
additional
design
features
that
could
be
done
at
a
later
date,
but
with
this
design
it
is
fully
covered
by
the
project.
Q
There
will
be
a
public
easement
recorded
on
both
the
park
space
and
the
mid-block
connection.
This
public
easement
will
provide
time,
place
and
manner
restrictions
which
will
not
impede
on
first
amendment
rights
but
regulate
when
where
and
how
the
public
may
engage
with
the
space.
This
is
similar
to
what
we
have
through
city
ordinance
on
city-owned
parks.
Q
N
I
guess
I've
never
actually
seen
a
ground
floor
plan
that
to
my
memory,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
where
the
mid-block
crossing
is,
and
I'm
wondering
some
information
about
the
main
public
lobby,
if
that's
accessible
to
the
public
or
how
that
background
floor
space
functions,
is
the
walkway
actually
up
the
stairs
or
is
there
a
separate
walkway.
S
N
N
Q
Director
mono
that
that
structure
was
always
contemplated
through
the
project
design,
even
in
2019
when
it
came
before
the
board
before
the
mid-block
walkway
was
intended
to
be
a
connection
to
that
open
space.
N
Yeah,
I
guess-
and
this
may
be
a
slightly
different
topic
than
this
project
specifically,
but
it
in
my
mind
the
public
benefit
of
mid-block
crossways,
to
allow
people
to
go
through
the
city
in
different
ways
and
make
shortcuts,
through
our
giant
blocks
and
to
me
if
I
have
to
walk
up
a
set
of
stairs
and
then
back
down
another
set
of
stairs
and
or
elevator.
It's
not
really
a
functional
way
to
walk
through
a
city.
N
So-
and
I
understand
that
this-
you
know
that
the
reasons
for
the
write
down
and
everything
were
all
prior
to
my
time
on
the
board.
But
I
I
guess
for
me
the
intent
of
a
public
walkway
is
slightly
different
than
a
connection
to
a
destination.
It's
actually
a
connection
through
a
space,
and
this
feels
like
a
very
difficult
connection
through
a
space.
O
I
think
if
I
could
chime
in
that's
a
that's
a
great
comment,
I
think
you're
you're
right
director
mono
that
this
this
is
more
or
less
providing
connections
to
the
open
space
as
an
amenity
in
the
interior
of
the
block,
while
still
obviously
providing
a
way
to
connect
west
temple
to
main
street.
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
provide
any
connection
to
west
temple,
but
for
the
involvement
of
heinz
and
the
property
that
they're
utilizing.
O
That
is
currently
part
of
the
kearns
building
parking
structure
that
the
utah
theater
property
itself
has
zero
public
access,
with
the
exception
of
limited
vehicular
axis
through
the
parking
structure
off
of
second
south.
So
as
a
parcel
on
its
own,
we
would
not
be
able
to
mid-block
connectivity
to
west
temple
or
anything
in
the
interior
of
the
block,
but
for
the
utilization
of
the
additional
property
that
heinz
is
providing
and
so
granted.
O
That's
you
know
to
the
structure
of
you
know
the
the
parking
structure
in
the
park
above,
but
that
is
something
that
is
not
currently
available
and
was
part
of
the
original
design
as
tammy
anticipated.
So
our
goal
is
to
try
to
provide
a
access
and
how
we
could
and
incorporate
that
as
part
of
the
open
space
on
the
roof.
Q
N
All
right
yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
I
guess
just
for
future
projects.
If,
if
it's
something
where
I
feel
like
we're
promising
a
public
benefit
of
a
public
walkway
to
me,
it
would
have
to
be
more
usable
for
future
projects.
If
we're
saying
this
is
a
way
to
get
to
me,
a
walkway
is
the
way
to
get
through
to
us
through
the
city
not
to
get
to
a
destination
like
a
park.
N
So
this
doesn't
me
my
understanding
of
what
the
public
when
I
was
a
member
of
the
public
and
not
a
board
member
felt
like
I
was
being
promised
by
a
public
walkway,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
P
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
maybe
different
discussion
about
additional
design
elements,
but
current
design
elements
is
there
time
to
talk
about
that
now
or
is
it
a
different
place.
B
Danny
to
you,
yeah.
O
I'd
be
happy
to
address
that.
The
the
item
today
is
is
to
meet
the
board's
obligation
of
presenting
the
information
of
how
the
the
developer
would
provide
the
open
space
make
it
accessible
and
the
information
on
the
cost
which
they
are
at
this
level
of
improvements,
bearing
that
entire
cost
for
both
the
construction
and
the
maintenance.
O
O
P
I'm
not
necessarily
interested
in
the
enhanced
design
elements
danny
just
to
be
blunt,
we've
got
so
many
needs
and
so
little
money
I
hate
to
put
more
here
when
I
can
see
15
other
things
we
need
to
do,
but
my
concern
the
current
design
is,
we've
talked
about
activating
it.
I
got
to
have
a
better
sense
about
how
to
be
activated
lunchtime
activation
evening,
whatever
it
is
activation
the
immunocenter
that
the
second
piece
is,
we
had
a
slide
earlier
sort
of
trying
to
develop
to
design
kid-friendly
stuff.
P
I
need
some
more
clarification
on
what
is
kid-friendly
here,
particularly
for
handicapped
kids.
I
know
we
can
get
up
there
in
the
elevator,
but
once
you're
up
there
some
information
about
how
we're
going
to
do
that
in
the
current
cost
design
process.
Those
things
would
be
interesting
for
me
to
hear
sooner
than
later,.
O
Okay,
we
can
certainly
follow
up
with
the
board
on
on
how
heinz
may
or
may
not
include
those
in
further.
You
know
designs
of
of
the
space.
Those
those
uses
were
exactly
what
was
anticipated,
both
in
the
original
pns
and
I
think,
by
the
board,
when
they
approved
this
contingency
of.
If,
if
we
wanted
those
type
of
enhancements,
then
to
what
extent
would
we,
as
an
agency
or
city,
want
to
potentially
participate
to
make?
O
This
have
those
improvements
that
would
kind
of
have
it
give
that
feel
of
a
little
bit
more
of
a
city
park
and
whether
that's
you
know,
a
stronger
top
lot,
whether
that's
stronger
ada,
accessibility
or
whether
that
takes
it
to
the
limit
of
programming?
O
I
think
you
know
for
us
as
a
city
and
an
agency.
If
we
were
to
ask
for
those
at
this
time,
then
I
think
we
would
probably
be
wanting
to
submit
a
proposal
for
how
we
could
help
fund
those
along
with
the
developer.
P
I
I'm
not
asking
for
that
danny,
but
the
slides
earlier
saying:
here's
the
design
elements
we
were
inspired
by
perhaps
across
the
country.
Those
are
not
reflected
here,
and
so
that's,
okay.
If
it
costs
more
and
we
have
to
say
it
costs
more
to
do
those,
but
I
don't
want
to
present
that
to
the
public
in
any
way,
if
we're
not
going
to
do
that,
does
that
make
sense
or
a
kids
playground
there
if
this
is
a
different
part
based
on
the
cost?
We
have
that's
fine,
but
what
I'm
seeing
here
does
not
reflect.
O
Yeah,
okay,
it
does
and
and
that's
the
balance
between
what
you
know
as
we
presented
those
are
the
types
of
parks
and
and
uses
that
you
know
we're
kind
of
the
original
inspiration
for
the
the
design.
I
think
what
we
presented
today
is
is
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
hines
is
looking
to
build.
Obviously,
I'm
sure
they'll
probably
make
some.
O
You
know,
adjustments
and
refinements
to
that
and
and
as
those
kind
of
get
you
know,
decided
upon
we're
happy
to
bring
those
back
to
the
board
and
present
those
you
know
as
an
update,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
just
probably
going
to
be
refined
as
further
design
happens
on
the
space.
B
Danny
I
I
think
I
have
the
same
concerns
as
andrew
and
this
presentation,
because
of
of
you
know
of
the
lack
of
not
clarity.
I
don't
know
how
to
say
this,
like
we
don't
have
really
specifics
about
the
park.
We
only
know
how
much
it's
gonna
cost
for
them.
B
I
don't
feel
that
that
fulfills,
this
come
back
to
the
board
and
show
us
your
plans
and
the
end
of
you
know
and
the
price,
and
then
we
can
move
forward
with
the
purchase,
sale
agreement
because,
again,
like
andrew
said,
we're
not
we're
just
presented
one
image
of
what
it
could
be
and
how
much
it
cost
and
then,
where
we
got
the
inspiration
which
doesn't
reflect
on
the
one
image
that
we
have.
B
So
I
think
the
intent
you
know
of
the
world
back
in
the
day
to
say:
hey,
we
want
to
see
you
know,
plans
for
this
park
and,
and
you
know
and
make
it
family
friendly
and
you
know
accessible
or
whatever
the
intent
was
to
see
something
that
it
could
be
usable
for
everybody,
and-
and
I
don't-
I
don't
know
that
this
one
image
one
rendering
is
what
we're
gonna
get
or
or
or
do
we
need
to
continue
talking
about
and
see
the
actual
renderings
of
the
final
final.
O
O
O
It's
been
made
clear
to
us
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
pursue
that
option
of
having
this
be
either
a
city-owned
park
or
a
city
maintained
park,
or
that
the
city
wants
to
necessarily
put
additional
money
into
this.
Because
of
all
the
reasons
the
board
has
stated
is
you
know
we
have
greater
concerns
and
needs,
and
so,
from
the
standpoint
of
meeting
this
contingency,
the
developer
has
provided
that
information.
O
It
doesn't
necessarily
need
board
approval,
especially
since
you
know
to
heinz's
credit.
They
have
stepped
up
and
said
we
will
provide
the
ability
for
this
to
be
publicly
accessible
space,
which
is
exactly
what
the
intention
was
with
the
original
language,
and
the
board's
contingency
was
to
ensure
that
this
wasn't
just
an
amenity
for
the
residents.
So
heinz
has
agreed
to
make
it
accessible
to
the
public,
provide
the
mid-block
connection
and
heinz
has
further
agreed
to
take
on
the
entire
amount
of
maintenance
for
this
space
as
public
space.
B
Okay,
wharton
and
then
rogers.
Thank
you.
I
Sorry,
this
question
is
for
danny
and
for
the
mayor.
Are
there
any
other
properties
in
salt
lake
or
projects
in
salt
lake,
where
we
are
where
the
city
is
being
offered
like
public
access
and
and
using
it
as
some
sort
of
public
attraction
like
a
park
where
a
third
party
like
a
business,
is
offering
to
pay
for
the
maintenance
of
that
attraction?.
T
I
can't
think
of
any
I
can
think
of
many
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
and
it's
really
the
parks
that
stand
out
in
the
you
know:
national
mined,
great
parks
around
the
country
and
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that,
but
madame
chair,
if
I
could
make
a
follow-up
comment
after
danny
answers,
I'd
appreciate
it.
Of
course,.
O
Thank
you
mayor.
I
would
just
add
real
quickly
that
the
only
other
project
I
can
think
of
is
the
agencies
project
on
state
street,
where
we
asked
the
developer
to
provide
a
mid-block
connection
to
floral
street
and
that
mid-block
connection
is
going
to
have
a
easement,
along
with
all
the
restrictions
on
it
and
that
that
consideration
for
that
easement
and
that
mid-block
connection
was
also
part
of
the
justification
for
the
write
down
on
that
property
as
well.
But
there
is
no
active
park
space
or
anything
more
than
just
a
designed,
mid-block
connection.
O
I
Okay,
so
follow-up
connect
question.
Let's
just
pretend
that
the
city
property
where
the
theater
is
is
is
just
undeveloped.
It's
just
a
big
lot.
Is
there
any
with
the
all
the
other
properties
around
it?
Is
there
any
access
to
that
lot,
except
up
on,
except
on
main
street.
O
I
Okay,
how
long
sorry
this
is,
I
just
have,
I
think,
only
one
more
question:
how
long
has
salt
lake
city,
the
council
or
the
mayor
I
mean?
I
know
it's
been
a
priority
since
I've
been
on
the
council
so
three
years
and
some
months.
How
long
has
the
downtown
park
been
a
serious
objective
of
the
mayor
and
council.
O
That's
a
great
question:
I
would
assume
it
predates
my
time
back
with
the
agency.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
it's
even
referenced
in
more
of
the
city's
master
plans
or
downtown
rising
plans,
but
I
can't
speak
to
that
with
any
level
of
certainty.
I
O
That
I
don't
know
okay,
and
I
should
also
note
that,
even
though
this
open
space
is
going
to
be
built
as
part
of
the
project
heinz
will
fund,
it
heinz
will
maintain
it
at
this
point.
Heinz
will
also
still
pay,
probably
over
one
million
dollars
in
park
impact
fees
for
the
construction
of
parks,
so
they
are
providing
space
on
their
property,
as
well
as
contributing
to
the
park
impact
fee
fund.
Q
O
I
Okay
and
when
we
okay,
so
I
guess
I
do
have
more
than
one
question
so
when
we,
when
the
council
and
the
mayor,
I
say
we
but
realize
that
that
might
been
before
my
time
we're
prioritizing
the
creation
of
a
downtown
park.
F
The
mayor's
correct
it
was
three
and
a
half
million,
but
only
two
million
was
to
purchase
land
for
a
park.
The
rest
was
to
actually
develop
amenities
in
the
park,
and
the
city
was
not
successful
in
finding
space.
That
was
at
least
an
acre
in
size.
That
was
what
public
services
recommended,
and
so,
given
the
lack
of
available
spaces
and
the
two
million
dollar
constraint,
we
were
not
successful
in
finding
a
downtown
location
for
a
new
part.
O
I
So
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
all
this
was
at
the
forefront
of
my
mind
when
we
had
these
discussions
before
and
my
recollection
from
that
discussion.
I
Well
from
my
what
I
said
specifically
is
that
if
we
are
in
a
position
where
we
have
to
lose
something
iconic
like
a
fiat
like
this
theater,
I
want
to
gain
something
iconic,
and
I
want
to
gain
something
that,
if
we're
going
to
lose
something,
that's
a
public
space,
that's
accessible
to
the
public.
I
want
to
gain
something.
I
So
in
my
mind,
I
understand
that
there's
what
we
want
and
what
would
be
ideal,
but
I
mean
what
what
our
job
is.
I
As
council
members
is
to
operate
in
the
art
of
the
possible
and
to
leverage
what
we
can
as
much
as
best
we
can
with
the
opportunities
that
are
in
front
of
us,
and
if
I
understand
there
are
a
lot
of
needs
around
the
city-
and
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
that-
I'm
not
saying
that
we
should
that
you
know
this
should
be
our
our
primary
focus
or
our
only
focus
or
anything
like
that.
I
But
if
this
is
the
only
if
we've
been
trying
this
long
to
get
a
downtown
park,
we've
been-
and
this
is
as
close
as
we've
ever
come-
and
we've
never
had
the
kind
of
offer
in
terms
of
a
financial
partner
that
we
have
now
and
we
want
to
make
something
that
is
worthy
of
this
location.
I
That
you
know
was
a
public
space
for
so
long
and
we
have
a
project
that
is
very
rare
in
that,
where
you
know
we
do,
we
make
a
one-time
investment
to
have
more
amenities
in
the
park
and
then
a
private
company
is
going
to
take
on
the
responsibility
for
maintaining
that
in
the
future.
I
I
don't
know
why
we
would
not
direct
staff
to
further
investigate
that
and
to
bring
us
not
just
one
option
or
two
options,
but
a
number
of
options
that
we
can
consider
that
the
public
can
weigh
in
on
that
can
tell
us
what
they
would
be
interested
in.
Seeing
in
that
place,
I
mean
so.
For
me
this
is
like
a
no-brainer.
E
B
B
All
right,
I
think
the
mayor,
I
think,
okay,
j,
james
and
then
the
mayor,
please
thanks.
K
Yeah
board
member
wharton.
I
appreciate
that,
because
that
was
a
lot
nicer
than
I
was
gonna,
be
we
have
been
going
round
and
round
and
round
with
this.
This
is
year
eight
for
me
in
regards
to
this
and
I've
seen
a
dozen
different
projects.
This
is
the
only
one
that
has
stuck.
This
is
the
only
one
that
has
the
public
amenities
that
we're
looking
for.
This
is
the
only
one
that
has
ever
come
to
us
that
we
really
can
say.
Oh
yeah,
this
actually
makes
sense.
K
It
gives
us
access
to
another
street
that
we've
never
had
before
it.
It
puts
property
tax
back
into
the
pool
for
the
city.
I
mean
this
is
a
win-win-win.
This
is
the
current
way
that
we're
doing
this
going
round
and
round
is
a
lose-lose
scenario.
We're
continually
losing
and
I'm
sorry
that
people
this
might
be
a
little
bit
harsh,
that
they
think
it's
it's
iconic,
I'm
sorry
I've
been
in
there,
I've
almost
fallen
through
in
there.
There
is
it's
been
stripped,
it's
been
gutted,
there
is
there's
nothing
historic
about
it.
K
That
once
was
there
before,
and
the
only
thing
we
can
do
is
recreate.
What's
there
anyway,
and
that's
what
we're
planning
on
doing
through
this
so
yeah,
I
I
am
100
I'd,
prove
it
today
and
say
whatever
money.
If
we
were
going
to
allocate
towards
the
park,
let's,
let's
throw
that
towards
the
going
out
to
the
public
and
let
them
figure
out
how
they
want
to
have
the
money
spent
on
that
park,
but
I'm
all
for
moving
forward
immediately.
Let's
get
moving
and
stop
dragging
our
feet.
K
I
feel
like
I
don't
mean
this
to
be
offensive,
but
we
have
that
once
we
have
new
members
on
the
board,
we're
dragging
our
feet
not
only
now,
but
we're
doing
it
on
the
council
as
well,
and
it's
it's
we're
we're
playing
a
little
bit
of
catch-up,
and
I
understand
that.
But
at
what
point
it's
to
our
own
detriment.
We
are
following
we're
falling
all
over
ourselves
in
order
to
try
to
look
at
this
or
look
at
that
when
we
know
it's
there,
we've
heard
it
from
staff.
K
B
No
thank
you.
James
mayer,.
R
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
also
really
appreciate
the
the
way
that
you
led
that
conversation
chris.
It
felt
very
much
like
a
good
cross-examination
and
but
getting
to
those
points
that
have
been
made
that
I
was
hoping
also
to
make
you
know.
R
One
thing
we
have
to
remember
is
that
that
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
a
downtown
park
didn't
include
the
ongoing
maintenance
that
it
would
have
cost
us,
and
that
was
part
of
the
problem
with
trying
to
find
both
the
space
and
the
funding
so
having
a
private
entity
and
as
we
saw
cities
all
over,
the
country
are
leaning
more
towards
public
public
private
partnerships
in
order
to
create
public
spaces.
Okay
say
that
eight
to
eight
times
fast
to
create
these
public
spaces,
because
we
do
have
limited
resources
and
we've
seen
over
the
last.
R
As
chris
pointed
out
the
four
years
three
and
a
half
four
years
we've
been
on
the
council,
but
eight
or
plus
years,
beyond
or
four
or
plus
years
beyond
that
that
we
haven't
capitalized
on
these
private
public
partnerships,
and
here
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
it,
where
somebody
would
be
maintaining
that
open
space.
I
I
would
also
point
out
that
in
those
eight
plus
years
that
we
were
looking
for
a
downtown
park,
the
utah
theater
stood
boarded
up,
so
it
wasn't
accessible
to
the
public
either
and
so
for
at
least
a
decade.
R
If
not
longer,
we
had
a
space
that
was
there
that
wasn't
accessible
to
the
public
in
really
any
sort
of
way
and
and
then
we
also
couldn't
find
more
open
space
to
create
something
open
to
the
public.
And
here
we
have
that.
So
I
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
exploring
more
amenities
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
with
that
space.
It's
not
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
things.
I
think
mr
owen
said
it
earlier
during
the
general
comment.
R
There
are
a
lot
of
things
about
the
whole
deal
and
losing
the
theater
that
I
think
every
single
person
on
this
call
right
now,
probably
including
dusty,
would
have
liked
to
say
yeah.
It's
a
shame.
R
We're
we
are
are
losing
this
theater,
but
that
happened
way
before
any
of
us
sitting
here
today
and
I
think
in
some
ways
what
we're
all
trying
to
do
is
is
make
lemonade
out
of
out
of
some
lemons
that
we
were
handed,
and
this
is
an
excellent
way
to
do
this,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
not
often
do
you
have
do,
we
have
developers
willing
to
come
back
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
work
with
us
in
the
way
that
I
I
think
has
happened
here.
It
is.
R
Is
it
everything
we
would
have
wanted?
No,
of
course,
I
think
everyone
would
have
wanted
to
save
the
theater.
Is
this
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
capitalize
on
a
relationship
and
on
a
partnership?
I
do
believe
that
it
is,
and
I
believe
that
it
can
be
something
that
is
iconic
and
open
to
the
public
and
that
people
will
say
this
is
as
cool
as
the
new
york
nine
line,
maybe
not
as
long,
but
that
this
is
a
space
that
that
we
want
to
go
and
hang
out.
R
So
I
I'm
all
for
looking
and
exploring
amenities
in
that
park.
All
right.
B
Go
ahead
mayor
and
after
that
I
think
we
need
to
wrap
up.
T
Yes
and
to
council
members,
wharton
rogers,
fowler
and
I've
felt
the
pain
over
the
eight
years
that
I've
been
in
these
conversations
and
we've
asked
what
was
preservation
utah,
which
is
now
even
a
new
name
and
a
new
director.
They
tried
to
fly
or
bring
a
fundraising
campaign
up
a
flagpole
and
really
couldn't
even
touch
a
fraction
of
the
vanilla
shell
cost.
That
was
estimated.
We
visited
other
pantages
theaters
around
the
country
and
it's
really
not
an
apples
to
apples
comparison
to
say
it
was
this
much
to
restore
this
one.
T
So
it
should
be
that
much
to
restore
this
one,
the
amount
of
degradation
in
in
this
pantage's
former
pantages
theater
is
significant
and
it
is
significantly
more
than
other
theaters
that
were
considered
in
all
of
the
evaluations
that
have
happened
over
the
last
near
decade
and
to
councilmember
rogers
point.
I
did
fall
through
the
floor.
I
fell
through
the
floor.
Up
to
my
hips
in
this
building,
it
is,
is
very
far
gone.
T
It's
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
good
space,
and
yet
we
were
willing,
as
an
rda,
to
invest
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
analysis
and
studies
and
different
proposals
and
asked
the
public,
which
is
how
preservation
utah
came
to
the
conversation
at
the
time.
Help
us
figure
out
how
we
could
save
this
place.
T
Help
us
figure
out
how
we
can
have
enough
money
to
do
it,
and
that
is
it's
a
painful
process,
but
I
think
cutting
off
our
nose
to
spite
our
face
at
this
point
is
such
a
loss
for
the
residents
downtown
because
we're
not
we
can't
afford
a
downtown
park.
T
We've
been
trying
a
long
time
and
the
1.2
million
in
parks,
impact
fees
that
will
be
generated
by
the
project
itself
are
just
the
parks
impact
fees.
This
project
is
going
to
generate
fees
for
streets
replacement
and
for
other
utilities
and
things
that
we
shouldn't
be
paying
for,
and
it's
good
for
growth
to
pay
for
that,
so
we'll
see
the
benefit
in
other
parks
around
the
community.
Thanks
for
giving
me
a
second,
madam
chair.
B
No
problem,
thank
you,
okay,
we're
so
behind.
I
want
to
apologize
to
the
person
that
is
waiting
for
us.
Go
ahead,
council
member,
oh
sorry,
board
member
johnston.
P
My
first
comment
was
about
the
park
space,
not
about
the
project.
I
want
to
be
careful
about
that.
The
contingency
was
an
agreement
we
had,
and
it
was
an
agreement
that
said
prior
to
closing
developer,
provide
a
detailed
plan
for
the
open
space.
So
we
need
to
know
these
the
detailed
plans,
the
rendering
of
what
we
can
expect
if
we
want
to
go
up
to
a
larger
process,
to
talk
about
other
options
for
okay,
but
that's
my
question
because
I
asked
about
handicap
access
based
on
the
design.
P
O
Understood
I
appreciate
that
clarification
and-
and
I
can
have
allison
jump
in
too-
to
provide
any
interpretation
on
the
language
as
we
have
presented
it.
We
have
done
so
in
a
way
that
the
plans
that
are
presented
the
renderings
meet
the
qualifications
of
the
intention.
O
As
I
said,
the
reason
for
that
is
because
we
read
that
intent
language
from
the
board,
stating
that
we
want
the
opportunity
to
have
these
conversations
with
the
developer,
about
enhancing
what
they
are
already
proposing
to
do
is
open
space,
and
so,
given
that
the
conversations
we've
had
with
board
members
to
date
have
not
necessarily
concluded
that
you
all
wanted
to
consider
additional
enhancements,
we
feel,
like
we've,
met
that
condition
by
coming
in
and
saying
the
open
space
that
the
developer
has
proposed
to
build
from
day
one.
O
This
is
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
These
are
the
renderings
and
that
we
don't
need
to
really
get
into
specific
detailed
plans,
because
the
developer
is
willing
to
pay
for
it
all,
make
it
available
to
the
public
and
maintain
it
which,
as
I
said,
those
were
the
motivations
of
both
the
original
p
s
and
that
board
contingency
was.
If
we
want
to
put
money
into
it,
then
at
that
point
we
would
want
to
have
those
conversations
of
specifically
what
that
park
space
would
look
like
and
what
those
details
would
be.
O
O
If
we
were
going
to
then
have
a
further
conversation
of
the
city
either
owning
the
park,
building
it
providing
funds
whatever,
and
so,
if
we
have
read
that
wrong,
if
we've
interpreted
that
wrong,
I'm
happy
to
have
allison
chime
in
and
provide
any
guidance
on
how
we
came
to
that
decision
or
I'm
happy
to
receive
any
further
direction
from
the
board
on
on
what
the
next
steps
would
be.
B
I
think
we
I
would
like
to
ask
you
danny
if
board
members
are
interested,
I
mean
in
you
know
in
this
conversation
about
the
enchantments
to
the
park.
Do
you
need
us
to
do
a
like
a
not
a
vote,
but
would
you
call
it
a
thumbs
up
and
thumbs
down
type
of
thing,
or
how
do
we
go
about
this.
O
O
We
can
do
that
and
and
to
director
johnson's
point,
there's
nothing
saying
that
we
can't
sit
down
with
heinz
and
the
developers
too,
and
try
to
you
know
have
that
conversation
with
them
as
they
further
these
designs
of
of
carrying
forth.
That
priority
of
you
know
really
improving
ada
access
or
really
looking
at
an
elevated
portion
of
this
to
be
a
taut
line.
We
can
absolutely
do
that
and
it's
really
just
a
function
of
what
falls
within
just
the
normal
design
process
for
the
project.
O
B
B
O
B
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
the
discussion.
It's
it's
a
very
interesting
project,
so
I
apologize
for
being
so
behind
on
our
schedule.
We're
going
to
move
on
to
item
six,
which
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
redevelopment
advisory
committee,
and
I
hope,
rosa
marnotto
banderina
is
it's
here.
B
C
E
Thank
you
I,
I
am
an
architect.
C
I
E
I
do
not
have
I
I
can't
yet
vote
because
I'm
not
a
citizen
yet,
but
I
do
want
to
be
involved
as
much
as
I
can
with
the
community,
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
and
to
bring
voices
to
the
table
that
are
not
always
heard.
So
that's.
I
think
that
very
briefly
explains
it.
B
Thank
you
so
much
rosa
anybody
would
like
to
ask
a
question
or
are
we
are.
P
B
Thank
you.
That's
awesome,
rosa,
thank
you
so
much,
and
so
we
you
would
you're
consider
we're
considering
approval
for
a
term
ending
in
january
of
2025..
I
haven't
done
this
at
the
rda.
Do
we
need
to
roll
call
this
or.
A
B
Great,
thank
you.
Rosa
welcome
we're
moving
on
to
number
seven,
so
we
are
considering
a
motion
to
ratify
the
determination
that
the
board
will
continue
to
meet
remotely
and
without
an
anchor
location
under
house
bill.
5002.
I
B
Right,
we
have
a
motion
by
remember
fowler
and
a
second
by
board
member
dugan.
B
N
B
D
B
Founder,
yes,
and
I'm
a
yes
and
we
have
item
number
eight
reported
announcements
from
the
executive
director
which
do
we
have
any
announcements.
O
B
Okay-
and
I
don't
have
any
reports,
does
that
do
them
have
any
report.
B
All
right-
and
I
think
so
item
d
is
a
written
briefing
which
we
don't
have
item
e
is
consent.
The
following
items
are
listed
for
consideration
by
the
word
and
can
be
discussed
individually
upon
request.
So
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
is
approving
the
former
appointment
to
the
development
advisory
committee
of
rosa
martinotova.
E
B
E
B
G
B
B
E
B
Founder,
yes,
and
I'm
a
yes
and
we
don't
have
a
closed
session
for
the
rda
today
and
the
board
will
consider
a
motion
to
adjourn
as
a
redevelopment
agency
and
to
convene
as
a
city
council.
E
Sorry
this
is
cindy.
You
did
have
a
request
for
a
closed
session,
but
I
realize
you
don't
have
time.
I
don't
know
if
the
board
wants
to
talk
about
whether
you'd
like
to
have
a
closed
session
at
a
future
date
or
whether
you'd
like
to
take
the
time
I'm
not
pressing
for
it.
I'm
just
want
to
point
that
out
and
I
think
your
council
chair,
fowler
had
a
her
hand
up.
R
I
was
just
gonna
say
something
about
when
we
are
reconvening
not
about
the
closed
session,
so
I
will
no,
I,
whatever
the
other
boardwalk
members
want
to
do
on
the
rda
potential
closed
session.
B
I
I
think
it's
board
member
martin
wharton
has
the
request.
Would
you
like
to
move
forward
with
that.
A
Already
a
little
behind
in
timing,
we
have
discussed
among
staff
based
cut
budget
amendment
number
seven
down
in
time.
You
don't
have
a
formal
meeting
tonight.
So
really
it's
just
a
matter
of
how
late
you
want
to
stay
in
council
meeting.
There
is
an
executive
session
over
dinner
during
complicating
as
well
there's
another
logistical
issue,
which
is
that
we
don't
have
a
separate
link
created
for
the
closed
session.
R
O
E
I'm
thinking
you
know
typically
the
rda
board
adjourns
and
then
convenes
as
the
city
council,
so
you
would
have
to
leave
your
rda
meeting
open
and
adjourn
in
closed
session
as
both
and
I'm
looking
at
cindy,
whether
you
have
experience
doing
that.
I
I
haven't
seen
that
done
for
the
purpose
of
closed
sessions
before
but
we've
talked
about
doing
it.
I
don't
I
don't
remember
whether
we've
actually
ever
done
it.
It's
just
a
matter
of.
K
E
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
mean
what
you'd
need,
then,
is
a
motion
to
convene
in
closed
session
for
rda
for
purposes
of
property,
negotiation
and
advice
of
legal
counsel
and,
as
a
counsel
part
two
would
be
counsel,
as
whatever
your.
E
You
know
I
mean
the
the
the
technical
language
of
the
open
meetings
act
is
that
the
body
has
to
convene
in
an
open
meeting
and
make
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session,
and
I
I
have
concerns
because
right
now,
you're
convened
as
the
rda
board
and
so
you'd
have
to.
Then
you
have
to
jump
out
and
jump
back
in
which
is
a
little.
E
R
T
I
I
I
think
we
can
do
this
closed
session
really
quickly.
I
think
that
that
there'll
be
more
we'll
want
to
have
more
of
an
of
a
discussion
later,
but
I
would
like
to.
I
would
really
like
to
just
go
into
this
quickly
and
put
out
what
we
want
to
talk
about
and
then
hopefully
the
more
substantive
discussion
we
can
do
later
and
we
try
to
do
as
quickly
as
possible.