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A
B
B
We
welcome
all
of
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
online
and
even
though
we
are
not
in
person,
this
meeting
is
still
considered.
An
open
and
public
meeting
today
is
a
work
session
only
and
there
is
no
public
comment
scheduled.
B
However,
tuesday
april
6th
will
be
the
next
opportunity
for
the
public
to
comment
during
our
7
p.m.
Formal
meeting
that
being
said,
as
always,
your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
share
that
with
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
at
po
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,
84114
or
emailing
us
at
council.comments
slcgov.com,
or
by
calling
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line
at
801
801-535-7654.
B
This
is
only
a
work
session
and
we
have
quite
a
bit
on
our
agenda,
so
council,
members
and
public.
I
am
really
going
to
try
to
not
bump
anything
if
we
can
help
it.
There
are
some
really
important
topics
that
we
I
want
to
give
a
good
amount
of
time
to
and
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
having
good
discussions,
and
so
just
I'm
forewarning.
B
You
now
and
I
want
to
apologize
to
any
of
our
community
members
that
may
be
joining
us
and
may
have
waited
a
while
for
us
to
start
our
work
session.
We
had
a
wonderful
rda
work
session
meeting
with
some
really
important
conversations
that
needed
to
happen,
so
we
apologize
for
being
a
little
bit
late
and
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
that.
Let's
get
straight
into
the
agenda.
B
Our
first
item
is
our
weekly
or
or
standing
item
of
updates
from
the
administration,
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
you,
madam
mayor,
unless
there
is
somebody
you're
delegating
to
but
the
floor
is
yours,
so
thank
you
for
being
with
us,
madam
mayor.
C
C
I
want
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
rio
grande
and
fleet
block
area
and
also
frame
the
shared
housing
ordinance.
That's
on
your
agenda.
Today.
First,
our
outreach
team
has
been
working
in
the
rio
grande
area
for
several
weeks
and
next
week,
service
providers
will
bring
a
bunch
of
resources
to
the
area
included,
including
covid
testing,
on
the
29th
in
a
resource
fair.
The
next
day
on
the
30th,
the
area
will
be
closed
to
camping,
beginning
on
the
30th,
and
on
april
1st,
the
health
department
will
clean
the
area.
C
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
residents
and
business
owners
in
the
fleet
block
area
that
are
struggling
with
safety
issues
in
their
community
around
the
fleet
block
and
we
understand
those
frustrations
and
concerns
and
we're
working
as
an
administration
to
gather
sufficient
resources
to
address
them
as
immediately
as
possible,
because
everyone
deserves
access
to
shelter
and
a
clean
and
safe
public
space
for
everyone
and,
in
addition
to
addressing
criminal
activity.
That's
in
that
area.
C
We
share
your
concern
council
members
about
the
individual
who
was
injured
in
the
fire
at
the
fleet
block
in
the
building
there
and
grateful
that
no
one
else
in
the
area
was
injured.
Also
great
grateful
for
our
salt
lake
city,
fire
department's
quick
response
and
that
investigation
into
how
it
happened
is
ongoing.
C
Right
now,
the
all
of
this
around
homelessness
shifts
and-
and
I
think
leads
well
into
the
shared
housing
ordinance
because
salt
lake
city
and
this
city
council
have
long
for
a
long
time
been
a
leader
in
the
state
of
utah
for
expanding
housing,
access
and
options,
because
we
have
recognized
the
need
for
more
housing
options
across
a
wide
spectrum
of
affordability,
and
our
city's
rda
has
first-hand
experience
with
50
units
of
safe
and
successful
privately
run.
Shared
housing
and
what
has
traded
has
traditional
and
is
still
currently
in
many
ways.
C
A
very
difficult
area
of
the
city
right
on
rio
grande
shared
housing
has
made
housing
an
affordable
and
accessible
reality
for
about
50
people
who
might
otherwise
be
camping
on
the
street.
And
we
know
from
our
city-wide
housing
master
plan
that
shared
housing
is
one
of
the
key
parts
we
need
in
more
areas
of
the
city
and
by
broadening
the
application
of
the
land.
C
Use
we're
going
to
be
opening
housing
doors
to
many
of
those
same
individuals
who
are
being
served
by
our
resource
fairs
and
camping
on
the
street
and
that
you
care
about
from
us
in
every
homeless,
update
we
give
this
isn't
a
stretch
of
the
imagination
or
a
stretch
for
those
who
need
this
housing
to
be
able
to
get
into
it.
Necessarily
it's
a
really
key
part
of
the
solutions
that
we
need
and
the
private
market
is
ready
to
help
make
it
happen.
C
D
I
have
one
question
just
question
the
on
the
date.
So
did
you
say
april
1st
there
will
be.
C
B
B
Council
members,
any
other
questions
for
mayor
mendenhall
great.
Thank
you
mayor
again,
for
that
next
is
our
update
on
the
race
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
I
believe
we
have
kira
from
council
staff
joining
us
today,
although
I
don't
see
kyra's
other
shoes.
F
These
are
available
for
the
public
to
listen
to.
You
can
find
that
information
at
slc.
E
B
And
council
members,
when
we
have
a
final
draft,
we
will
do
a
briefing
of
the
audit
and
the
recommendations,
a
public
briefing
there,
but
really
looking
forward
to
it
sounds
from
what
I've
heard
from
staff
and
talking
with
our
auditors
that
they
have
some
really
great
recommendations
and
some
things
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
what
they
found.
I
think
that
it
is
seems
to
me
to
have
been
a
very
well
done
audit
and
looking
forward
to
that
so
cindy
you
popped
on.
Is
there
anything.
H
Just
to
clarify
for
the
public,
it
won't
be
that
we'll
have
a
draft
budget
or
anything.
It's
just
the
audit.
B
Thank
you,
yeah
great
thanks,
kira,
with
that
we
will
get
straight
into
our
first
discussion,
which
is
the
shared
housing
zoning
text
amendments,
and
this
was
formerly
known
as
the
single
room
occupancy
or
sro
ordinance.
B
We
have
had
quite
a
few
honestly
briefings
on
this,
but
I
think
in
part
because
it
is
such
an
important
ordinance
and
something
that
we
all
are
in
lots
of
ways,
deeply
passionate
about,
and
so
we've
set
aside
some
time
for
this
and
hope
that
we
have
a
good,
robust
discussion
I
am
going
to.
I
know
that
we
have
russell
weeks
from
council
office
here.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
please
bear
with
me
I'm.
I
would
like
to
at
least
recap
some
of
the
issues
or
or
how
we
got,
how
we
started
and
how
we
got
here.
This
is
a
follow-up
to
two
council
events.
I
One
is
the
second
public
hearing
on
the
proposed
ordinance
and
the
other
is
a
city
council
briefing
on
the
discussion
of
the
administration's
housing
effort.
The
second
proposed
hearing
the
second
public
hearing
was
november.
20Th
was
well
was
november.
20Th.
The
the
discussion
of
the
council
of
the
administration's
housing
initiatives
was
december.
1St
cared
housing
is
considered,
the
lowest
rung
of
affordable
housing,
shared
housing
usually
accommodates
the
homeless.
I
The
aged
people
with
disabilities
and
people
who
make
low
wages
and
students
shared
housing
is
a
permitted
use
under
the
proposed
ordinance.
The
number
of
acres
in
the
city
where
shared
housing
would
be
permitted
would
be
a
permitted.
Land
use
would
increase
from
688
acres
to
3140,
14
acres,
1,
264
acres
would
be
west
of
I-15
and
1850
acres
would
be
east
of
I-15.
I
I
One
was
a
concern
about
the
health
and
safety
of
using
a
shared
kitchen
in
a
shared
housing
building
a
question
about
whether
there
should
be
a
limit
on
the
number
of
housing
units
per
building,
a
question.
What
about
whether
shared
housing
should
be
a
conditional
use
instead
of
a
permitted
use
and
a
question
about
whether
there
is
a
a
model
or
models
of
managing
shared
housing
that
have
proven
successful?
I
Council
staff
has
tried
to
answer
those
questions
in
the
written
staff
report
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
going
to
leave
it
as
right
there
for
the
council
to
discuss.
K
It's
I
believe,
it's
it's
a
shared
housing
and
the
reason
it's
a
shared
housing
is
because
they
have
common
cooking
facilities
where
most
motels
don't
so
that's,
probably
the
biggest
difference
right
now
between
some
of
the
motels
that
are
operating
somewhat.
Similarly,
like
one
example,
was
the
capital
motel
on
state
street,
which
is
now
gone
and
under
under
construction
as
low-income
housing,
but
that's
the
primary
difference.
A
motel
is,
is
just
it's
just
the
room
and
bathing
facilities
and
there's
not
usually
any
sort
of.
J
J
Is
it
the
length
of
the
leaves?
Is
it
the
cooking
itself?
Give
me
a
sense
of
why
couldn't
somebody
go
into
an
existing
motel
in
the
city,
do
30
day
leases
or
less
and
keep
it
as
a
motel,
but
basically
in
shared
housing.
K
J
Like
I
guess
my
we
need
more
housing.
I
agree
with
the
mayor.
This
is
something
that's
needed.
It's
probably
going
to
be
motels
they're,
going
to
be
transitioned
in
some
capacity
most
likely.
My
concern
has
been
it
doesn't
catch
all
the
motels
in
the
city,
only
some
along
certain
areas,
and
by
doing
this,
are
we
going
to
inadvertently
not
allow
other
motels
to
essentially
do
that.
These
would
in
these.
J
J
Unofficial,
I
don't
know
nobody
knows
the
answer,
but
that's
my
my
concern
about
this.
My
my
second
question
is:
I'm
con
I'm
concerned
about
the
unintended
effects
outside
those
buildings.
J
This
has
been
brought
up
by
their
council
members,
but
I
think
some
people
have
had
bad
experiences
in
the
last
couple
years
with
the
resource,
centers
and
fair
or
not
they're,
not
the
same
as
the
shared
housing
option.
However,
how
would
we
not
have
what's
happening
out
front
of
those
buildings
with
congregating
in
the
public
right-of-way?
That's
legal
and
fair
from
happening
in
these
locations
as
well.
J
K
So
yeah
zone
zoning
is
not
a
great
tool
to
regulate
behavior
that
occurs
off
the
site
of
a
use
a
lot
of
times,
whether
that
that
behavior
is
associated
with
that
use,
or
the
perception
is
that
it's
associated
with
that
use,
there's
really
not
much.
You
can
do
if,
for
example,
there
there's
some
undesirable
activity,
that's
happening
around
the
corner
from
a
use.
K
It's
really
hard
to
hold
that
that
one
youth
accountable
for
that
and
that's
just
the
reality
of
zoning-
and
it
you
know-
was
never
really
set
up
to
regulate
behavior,
is
to
regulate
land
use
and
and
deal
with
deal
with
that.
But
we
have
put
some
things
in
place
for
other
uses
that,
whether
real
or
not
have
have
a
perception
of
having
more
broad
impacts.
K
So,
for
example,
bars
have
a
management
plan
that
they're
required
to
submit
it,
gets
reviewed
by
the
police
department
and
approved
by
them
as
part
of
their
approval.
If
it's
a
conditional
use
and
homeless
resource
centers
have
something
similar,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
those
the
the
two
key
components
for
that
that
deals
with
off-site
really
is
those
establishments
setting
up
a
plan
to
meet
with
the
community
and
the
neighbors?
K
If
there
is
a
problem,
it's
not
necessarily
to
solve
that
problem,
it's
to
set
up
an
avenue
for
communication
to
do
it,
and
so
that's
that's
kind
of
the
big
caveat
one
thing
going
back
to
the
question
about
the
difference
between
a
motel
and
a
shared
housing.
The
motel
obviously
has
nightmares.
The
shared
housing
has
a
minimum
of
a
week
and
that's
intended
to
help
provide
a
little
bit
more
permanency
than
say
that
loosely.
But
then
just
a
nightly
rental.
B
Does
the
requirement
that
this
ordinance
that
that
a
property
have
a
property
manager
on
site,
24
hours
a
day,
help
with
any
of
your
concerns
andrew.
J
I
think
this
goes
back
to
the
operator
and
how
do
we
hold
an
operator
accountable
and
that's
where
my
licensing
question
came
up?
We
don't
have
that
right
now,
so,
depending
on
the
operator,
it
could
be
a
great.
A
great
thing:
well
run
organized
clean,
well
maintained
for
the
residents,
etc,
etc,
but
under
land
use.
We
have
no
way
to
do
that.
J
H
Oh
just
a
a
couple
of
things
going
on
what
what
nick
was
saying
that
there
are
just
a
few
cases
like
the
bars
where
the,
where
the
council
has
tried
to
regulate
off-site
activity
and
the
one
thing
I
want
to
run
by
you
nick
is
in
the
case
of
the
bars
there
is
a
requirement
for
cleanup
in
the
vicinity
every
morning
by
a
certain
hour.
H
Can
you
tell
us
if
that
it
makes
any
sense
in
this
case,
or
perhaps
you've
already
looked
it
at
that,
and
it's
already
included.
I
don't
know.
K
It's
it's
not
included,
because
we
haven't
put
the
management
plan
in
as
a
requirement
for
this
for
this
use
and
looking
at
those
regulations,
I
think
what
it
says
I'm
actually
reading
them.
Right
now
is
that,
thank
you
is
that
yeah
they,
basically
they
any
kind
of
trash.
That's
on
the
premises
be
collected
and
deposited
in
by
6
a.m.
The
next
day.
K
H
Okay
and
then
there
also
was
a
lot
of
conversation
at
the
time
about
people
going
outdoors
to
smoke
and
perhaps
walking
down
the
block
and
and
standing
in
front
of
other
people's
property,
and
things
like
that,
I
I
don't
remember
ever
figuring
out
a
solution
to
that.
Was
there
anything
I
said
in
there.
K
The
the
only
thing
that
we
we
required
is
that
they
have
a
designated
spot
on
their
property
for
smoking.
Okay,
so
so
it
doesn't
address
someone
leaving
the
site,
and
you
know,
while
they're
walking
to
another
destination,
you
know,
walk
down
the
sidewalk
smoking
and
discarding
their
cigarette
butts
anywhere
and
littering,
and
things
like
that.
It
doesn't
address
that.
H
K
That
you
have
everything
memorized,
it's
been
a
really
long
time
since
I've
looked
at
that
to
that
code
or
had
to
actually
open
up
any
of
those
reports.
I
know
that
we
get
them
not
as
frequently
as
required
by
code
but
and
some
are
better
than
others
submitting
them,
but
I
I
can
certainly
look
at
that
and
see.
What's
entailed
okay.
B
G
So
I
appreciate
andrew's
questions
I
I
and
I'll
just
let
everyone
know
I'm
having
a
really
hard
time
with
this,
because
I
don't
have
the.
I
definitely
do
not
have
the
support
of
my
constituents
to
pass
this,
and
I
know
that's
not
the
only
consideration,
there's.
You
know
broader
things
that
we
need
to
think
about,
but
in
this
case
it's
pretty
unanimous
and
loud
that
that
I
don't
have
that
support
the
reasons
why
I
agree
with
my
constituency
for
a
couple
of
things
are
one.
G
G
So
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
maps
there,
it
heavily
impacts
some
parts
of
the
city
and
not
others,
and
I
know
the
justification
that
I've
heard
is
because
that's
close
to
transit,
and
that
makes
some
sense
to
me-
and
I
think
that
that's
there's
logic
to
that.
G
My
question
is:
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
create
like
a
buffer
around
them?
I
don't
know
if
that's
legal
for
us
to
do
and
say
if
there
can't
be
more
than
one
of
these
every
half
mile
or
something
like
that,
so
that
at
least
we
don't
get
a
really
strong
concentration
of
this
use
within
one
neighborhood,
and
maybe
that
buffer
also
exists
around
homeless
resource
centers.
Or
something
like
that.
I
don't.
G
I
have
no
idea
if
that's
legal
or
plausible
or
or
like
logistically
possible,
but
it
seems
like
one
way
to
at
least
temper
that
concern
about
geographic
equity
with
this
use,
because
I
think
we
could
go
into
it
with
rose-colored
glasses
and
think
that
this
is
not
going
to
have
any
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
that's
sort
of
how
I
remember
the
resource
centers
being
discussed.
G
But
that
hasn't
been
the
case,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
under
know
how
to
sort
of
protect
those
ancillary
uses,
and
maybe,
if
they're
spread
out,
that
would
be
less
of
an
impact.
I
Madam
chair,
a
a
small
point
in
history,
I
believe
there's
a
a
distance
requirement
for
payday
loan
businesses.
D
B
B
I
I
have
some
comments,
but
I
I'll
wait
until
other
council
members
have
asked
questions
or
maybe
given
some
comments.
Anna.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
I
share
the
concerns
with
councilmember,
mano
and
councilmember
johnston
and
obviously
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
that
a
lot
of
you
know,
a
lot
of
things
will
have,
you
know,
will
happen
in
district
four
district,
four
hosts
multitudes
of
different
types
of
of
housing
and
social
services
related
to
to
housing
and
resource
centers,
and
I
don't
think
this
city
is
ready
to
have
another
to
to
test
this
one
out
as
proposed
right
now,
because
I
don't
think
we
have
the
enforcement
mechanisms
that
we
need.
D
We
just
don't
have
the
system
right
now
and
it's
evident
because
of
what's
happening
in
downtown,
and
so
I
feel
like
going
forward
with
with
this,
might
burden
the
city
a
little
bit
more
and
would
have
the
resources
to
to
help
it,
and
so
my
constituency
as
well
it's
it's
opposed
to
this,
and
it
would.
D
I
would
think
that
maybe
we
leave
this
proposal,
I
mean
leave
these
users
in
the
locations
that
are
that
are
allowed
right
now
and
wait
and
see
if
we
have
evidence
that
that
we're
you
know
whatever
it's
happening,
this
type
of
of
uses
are
nuisance
or
no
senses
or
not,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
confident
right
now
that
we
should
expand
that
use.
B
May
I
suggest
something
that
I'm
feeling
right
now
I
mean
to
be
fair
in
a
single
family
home.
B
I
have
to
be
really
honest
right
now,
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
with
this
conversation
to
suggest
that,
and
I
can
under.
B
I
can't
even
go
there
to
sort
of
suggest
that
a
single,
a
shared
housing
unit
is
similar
to
payday
loans,
that
we
know
take
advantage
of
people
and
are
predatory
by
nature
and
that
that
is
somehow
similar
to
shared
housing
really
concerns
me.
B
I
think
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
creating
space,
we're
creating
homes,
we're
creating
the
ability
for
people
to
get
into
housing,
which
is
something
we've
been
talking
about
since
forever
and
and
yet
at
the
same
time,
we're
characterizing
it
as
a
problem
as
a
a
security
issue
that
the
city's
not
prepared
for,
and
it
sounds
I
mean
and-
and
I.
B
B
Through
actual
numbers
and
metrics
that
crime
rates
may
rise,
or
things
may
occur,
around
homeless,
resource
centers
or
things
like
that,
but
I
can
guarantee
that
there
are
probably
people
selling
drugs
on
this
side
of
my
street
and
yet
again
we're
not
trying
to
necessarily
regulate
the
use
of
my
single
family,
home
and
and
then,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
maybe
broaden
this
conversation
to
not
characterize
this
as
something
that
we're
just
that's
going
to
create
a
problem
and
that
people
and
that
that's
the
issue
we
have
to
look
at.
But
maybe.
B
I
I
would
like
to
look
at
how
do
we
change
this
narrative
of
creating
a
space
where
people
can
afford
to
live?
We
hear
so
often
that
people
somebody's
not
on
you.
If
somebody
sorry,
I
can
just
hear
backgrounds
if
we
start
to.
I,
oh.
This
is
sorry.
Let's
my
train
of
thought.
We
hear
a
lot
that
there
are
people
who
don't
want
to
go
to
the
homeless
resource
centers
for
a
number
of
reasons
and
their
own
personal
trauma
that
they
have
been
through
the
idea
of
being
in
a
in
a
large.
B
You
know
dorm
room
style,
space,
anxieties,
mental
health.
We
hear
all
of
these
things
and
for
me,
this
shared
housing
could
be
one
of
those
solutions
where
somebody
has
some
space.
That
is
theirs
that
then
they
can
still
interact
and
have
other
safe,
secure
space.
To
be
a
part
of,
I
look
at
an
example
with
the
first
step
house
recognize,
and
I-
and
I
think
this
goes
back
to
andrew's
comment,
which
I
do
believe
is
a
is
a
decent,
is
a
really
well
taken
comment
for
me,
but
the
first
step
house.
B
They
have
an
entire.
I
mean
their
whole
process,
their
whole
setup
is
shared
housing
and
it
works,
and
we
see
that
it
works
and
the
the
community
probably
doesn't
even
realize
how
many
units
that
are
they
have
over
in
that
area,
and
so
for
me.
I
think
this
is
a
great
option
to
be
looking
at
and
and
while
we,
the
concentration,
may
be
in
some
areas
more
than
others.
B
I
understand
that,
but
what
is
included
is
sugar
house
along
the
s
line,
I'm
looking
at
the
districts
and
along
yeah
the
sugar
house,
central
business
district,
one
and
two
and
and
yet
see.
There's
three
sugar
house
places
that
this
would
include,
and
so,
while
it
may
concentrate
in
some
areas,
I
also
think
that
we
can
that
this
can
be
one
of
those
solutions
that
we
keep
talking
about,
that
we
need
diversity
within
our
housing.
B
L
Yeah,
madam
chair,
to
me
this
conversation
is
feeling
a
lot
well
more
and
more,
like
the
adu
conversations
that
we've
had
of
old.
Whereas
this
is
something
new
we
discuss
it,
we
go
back
and
forth.
We
say
come
back
and
bring
this
we
implement
and
it's
not
as
horrible
as
everybody
thinks
it
is
so
there's,
maybe
one
or
two
that
that
start
and
then
we
come
back
again
and
say:
oh
crap,
we
need
a
lot
more
of
this
because
it's
working
and
people
are
looking
at
it.
L
So
I
don't
see
an
issue
with
this
moving
forward,
passing
this
ordinance
revisiting
it.
Seeing
if
we
are,
I
mean
really
who's
to
say
the
state's
going
to
not
going
to
come
in
and
say
this.
We
need
to
start
doing
sros
everywhere
right.
So
let's
establish
our
ordinance
for
the
zones
that
we
want
to
make
it
in
and
say
it's
working
here,
it's
not
working
there
and
literally
in
five
or
seven
years
the
state
really
will
come
in
like
they
did
this
last
session.
Talking
adu.
L
So,
let's
make
sure
we're
aligned
because
we're
already
ahead
of
the
game.
We
already
helped
influence
the
adu
ordinance
this
year
up
the
hill.
Thank
you,
mr
nick
norris,
our
director
there
for
that
and
all
the
people
that
were
influential
on
that.
But
this
is
where
this
conversation
is.
I
feel
like
it's
deja
vu
again.
E
Chris,
it's
funny
that
james
brought
that
up,
because
it
does
feel
kind
of
like
the
adu
discussion
again
and
I
you
know
we
came
in
at
the
at
the
tail
end
of
that
and
finally
moved
forward.
E
But
you
know,
adus
have
have
not
been
the
you
know
the
the
destruction
to
to
the
neighborhood
that
they
were.
A
lot
of
opponents
claim
that
they
would
be,
and
us
our
city
being
able
to
move
forward
with
it
and
work
out
a
lot
of
the
kinks
and
regulate
it
to
a
point
that
works
for
our
city
and
also
gave
us
good
bargaining
power
in
working
with
the
legislature
and
being
able
to
retain
local
control.
E
So
I
I
fully
understand
that
there
are
residents
that
you
know
that
don't
want
to
see
this
in
their
neighborhood
and
but
I
mean
I
think
those
same
residents
would
also
acknowledge
that
we
that
the
the
problem
of
unsheltered
people
in
our
city
has
gotten
worse
since
the
time
that
we've
passed
the
grow.
Slc
growing,
slc
plan
that
this
is
always
been
an
integral
part
of
the
escrow
slc
plan.
E
If
we
don't
have
sros,
there's
just
there's
no
way
we're
gonna
get
out
of
it,
and
so
I
I
think
we
have
to
what
I
would
encourage
is
that
you
know
the
the
parade
of
horribles
that
everyone
thought
we
were
gonna
have
with
adus
did
not
bear
out.
We
have
been
able
to
regulate
them.
E
This
gives
us
a
lot
more
tools
to
to
shut
down
or
to
to
find
or
to
influence,
bad
behavior
or
or
try
to
curtail
the
kind
of
the
kind
of
sros
that
we
don't
want
to
see,
and
it
gives
us
more
tools
than
what
we
have
in
our
toolbox
to
regulate
adus.
So
I
would
just
encourage
council
members
who
weren't
here
for
the
adu
discussion
to
have
that
perspective
or
to
to
and
not
have
it,
but
to.
E
I
would
invite
you
to
consider
that,
because
I
think
that
that's
really
critical
and
it
has
made
a
big
difference
for
salt
lake
city,
so.
J
J
Why
wouldn't
those
areas
also
want
to
be
part
of
this
discussion,
then,
because
we
need
this,
but
we
don't
only
need
it
in
certain
areas.
We
need
to
look
at
where
we
can
get
property,
sometimes
where
there's
transit
on
some
of
those
places
guys
and
we're
not
including
it
in
this.
That's
one
of
my
fundamental
concerns
and
look
housing
is
what
we
need
badly.
I
fully
agree
with
that.
I
already
have
it
on
north
temple,
I'll
embrace
it
on
north
temple,
bring
it
to
north
temple.
J
I'm
happy
with
that,
but
I
think,
if
we're
excluding
other
areas
of
the
city,
I
think
we're
not
going
to
have
the
same
equity
discussion
we
need
to
have.
This
has
got
to
be
shared
across
multiple
places
and
it
may
be
addressed
in
future.
Zoning
changes
across
state
street
and
other
parts
of
the
city
by
fbnu
and
other
things
tsa,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
that
going
forward
that
this
is
not
an
experiment
in
one
area
and
we
drop
it
because
future
councils
are
not
bound
to
re.
J
We
address
this,
so
I
think
we
need
to
really
be
focused
heavily
on
ensuring
that
we
had
all
the
properties
that
might
be
a
good
idea,
all
the
places
that
could
possibly
be
used
just
to
make
sure
we
have
all
those
options
available.
That's
my
concern.
C
Thank
you.
I
just-
and
I
I
think
nick
can
can
speak
to
your
direct
question
councilmember
johnston
after
me,
but
I
want
to
mention
that
when
I
was
on
the
council,
I
pushed
back
on
this
proposal
for
the
shared
housing
expansion
because
of
the
geographic
application
and
as
we
had
in
a
discussion
at
your
last
council
meeting
about
the
how
much
we
wish
we
had
the
housing
mitigation
loss,
work
done
in
tandem
with
these
other
housing
conversations
planning.
C
You
know,
that's
not
the
way
it
was
set
up
when
they
started
this
work
before
before.
I
was
here,
and
it
was
more
important
that
we
get
the
tool
out
there,
and
you
know
that
advocates
like
pamela
atkinson
have
been.
You
know,
beating
the
drum
with
both
the
state
and
private
investors
about
utilizing
this
tool
with
its
expansion,
hopefully
in
other
parts
of
the
state
as
well,
and
so
we
we
wanted
to
get
this
to
you,
not
pull
it
back
into
planning
and
start
a
process
over.
C
I
want
to
expand
this
application
into
other
parts
of
the
city.
I
agree
with
you
council
member
johnston,
but
our
desire,
because
of
the
urgency
and
the
need
of
housing,
was
to
just
get
it
get
this
expansion
going
as
it
was
queued
up
and
we'll
do
well,
we
can
do
the
the
other
geographic
expansion
in
the
next
phase.
M
Okay,
I
would
agree
about
the
expansion,
and
I
will
say,
though,
also
on
the
skyline
just
of
an
education
there.
That
was
that
hotel
that
had
a
lot
of
issues,
a
lot
of
drug
dealings
and
a
lot
of
problems
in
that
corner.
M
They
did
have
a
management
changeover
and
they've
supported
some
shared
housing
type
work
there
and
they're
serving,
I
think,
close
to
a
dozen
people
were
on
vouchers
and
living
there,
and
because
of
the
management,
they've
cleaned
up
the
whole
act,
and
you
don't
see
any
of
the
problems
that
we
saw
before
when
it
was
just
a
poorly
run
motel.
M
So
it
is
being
used
right
now
in
this
very
similar
fashion,
and
I
do
I
I
agree,
you
know
my
district
has
none,
I'm
the
only
district
that
has
no
none
of
the
zoning
up
for
it,
but
I,
I
think
you're
right.
We
do
need
to
open
it
up.
M
I
also
don't
have
a
lot
of
hotels
so,
but
I
am
more
than
willing
to
you
know,
move
forward
that,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
make
sure
make
sure
that
we
move
forward
quicker
than
wait
around
for
this.
E
G
Thanks,
I
amy
this
is
a
really
hard
conversation
for
me
also
and-
and
I
resonate
with
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you
said-
I
I
also
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
call
something
that
gives
a
person
a
house
similar
to
payday
loan
lending
that
that
I
I
get
why
that
feels
harsh
and
wrong
to
you.
I
think
that
the
intent
is
a
little
bit
different
with
looking
at
the
buffer,
though,
because
I
do,
I
guess
I
think
yes,
we
have
to
give
someone
a
house.
We
had
like
the
resource.
G
Centers
have
to
exist,
but
it's
not
true
that
they
don't
come
with
any
if
negative
effects
on
the
on
the
neighborhood.
So
I
think
that
that
is
the
issue
that
that
perhaps
a
buffer
might
might
solve.
I
I
think
that
the
comment
about
regulation
I
do
want
to
just
bring
one
little
rebuttal
to
your
comment
about
regulation
of
single-family
housing.
G
Actually,
single-family
zones
are
the
most
regulated
land
use
in
the
entire
city
and
it's
a
zone
like
we
have
some
areas
in
the
city
where
it's
law
that
one
family
has
to
occupy:
12,
000
square
feet
of
land
and
that's
the
highest
degree
of
regulation
that
I
can
even
imagine
and
the
like
a
law
that
requires
one
family
to
occupy
that
much
land
to
me.
It
it
it's.
G
I
know
I'm
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
here,
but
that
is
the
highest
degree
of
regulation
and
therefore
we
hear
the
least
complaints
from
people
that
live
there,
because
it's
not
as
intense
tense
of
a
land
use
and
I'm
all
for
growing
in
density-
and
I
know
that
that's
the
direction
we
have
to
go
with
the
city
and
I
choose
to
live
in
an
area
that
is
a
multi-family
area,
because
I
like
it
because
I,
like
the
the
connection
to
transit-
and
I
like
how
close
I
can
walk
to
a
restaurant
or
a
bar.
G
But
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
realize
that
these
uses
do
oftentimes
come
with
negative
neighborhood
impacts,
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
as
much
as
we
can
to
mitigate
those,
because
I
do
live
very
close
to
one
of
the
re.
Well,
I
live
right
between
both
resource,
centers
and
and
the
impacts
are
they
are
real.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
that.
That's
where
my
hesitation
comes
from.
B
You
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
in
the
future
if,
if
this
were
hopefully
when
and
if
we
pass
this
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
future-
and
we
often
come
back
to
ordinances
or
to
things
and
say
after
kind
of
dealing
with
them
for
a
little
bit
and
say
how
do
we
need
to
tweak
this,
and
this
may
be
one
of
those
that
we
need
to
tweak?
B
In
fact,
I
think,
with
the
adus
we
kind
of
didn't
we
put
something
in
there
that
we
needed
to
come
back
here.
We've
done
it
with
rda
policies
and
and
other
I
don't
know
if
we've
done
it
with
ordinances,
but
where
we
say,
let's
review
this
in
a
year
or
in
two
years
and
see
if
we
need
to
revise
anything
right.
So
one
of
the
things
that
really
piqued
my
interest,
though,
is
this
idea
of
the?
B
What
plan
did
you
the
management
plan
that
bars
have
to
give?
I
mean
that
may
be
something
that
in
the
future,
if
we
see
that
that's
it
that's
necessary
to
address
some
of
that
like
who's.
Managing
these
properties.
Right
kind
of
both
to
andrew
and
dan's
points
that
that
may
really
depend
how
this
looks
may
really
depend
on
who's,
actually
managing
or
owning
the
property
and
doing
that.
But
that
might
be
something
that
we
look
at
for
the
future
rather
than
taking
it
all
back
to
the
drawing
table.
B
It's
similar
to
expanding
it
right.
I
think
we
should
expand
it.
Just
some
of
my
finishing
thoughts
there.
Anyone
else
on
this,
I
don't
even
know
how
long
we've
been
talking
about
it,
because
now
my
my
agenda's
so
off
that
I
can't
remember
what
time
we
started
so
any
madam.
J
B
J
I
mean
I'm
fine
supporting
it,
but
I
do
want
something
in
there
about.
We
gotta
address
this
geographic
thing
across
the
city.
Now
we
can't
leave
it
up
to
sort
of.
If
there's
issues
then
we
deal
with
it.
We
need
a
time
frame
to
start
discussing
it,
otherwise
we
won't
get
back
to
it.
We
know
there's
1500
things
on
everybody's
sort
of
backed
up
plate
to
get
to
even
on
planning
him.
J
I
hate
to
say
this
to
nick,
but
you
know
we're
asking
you
to
do
all
sorts
of
stuff
right
now,
probably
not
enough
resource.
I
don't
know
we're
going
to
get
back
to
this
in
the
next
decade
or
maybe
20
years,
and
at
that
point
it
may
not
even
matter,
but
that's
my
concern.
If
we're
going
to
do
it
tight
end,
particularly
if
we're
going
to
do
it
tied
to
transportation
every
time
we
put
a
transit
line
in
the
city,
we
better
be
rezoning
around
it.
J
For
this,
I
think
that's
got
to
be
a
requirement.
Frankly,
in
my
book
we
cannot
put
15-minute
buses
anywhere
in
this
city
and
not
rezone
for
this,
for
a
housing
like
this.
So
I'd
like
to
tighten
that.
B
Well,
we
don't
have
anything,
I
mean
the
tentative
council.
Action
is
tbd
and
I
really
would
like
to
get
something
passed
sooner
rather
than
later.
Maybe
we
can
work
with
the
attorney's
office
on
some
language
with
some
of
those
requirements
or
making
it
so
that
we
have
to
come
back
and
review
it
or
something
yes,
russell.
I
No
matter
here
I
mean
my
takeaway.
I
have
three
takeaways
here:
one
there's
an
interest
in
adopting
the
ordinance,
but
it
was
what
it
would
be
clauses
three
clauses
one
to
review
the
ordinance
in
a
year
and
to
make
sure
that,
if
necessary,
a
management
plan
be
adopted
and
and
a
need
to
address
geographic
equity
in
the
future
is.
Is
that
safe
to
say.
D
This
geographic
equity,
then
not
in
the
future,
like
whenever
we
take
action
in
this
to
happen
now
and
then
I
would
like
to
add
the
business
licensing
portion
for
enforcement
of
this,
because
yes,
dan
said
that
there
was
a
you
know:
good
management
company,
that
took
care
of
what
the
hotel
in
his
district,
but
we
also
have
plenty
of
of
managers
in
some
of
our
motels
in
our
city
that
are
doing
a
really
poor
job
and
we
cannot
enforce,
and
we
and
we
haven't,
had
the
ability
to
take
care
of
the
public
right
away
around
this
poorly
managed
properties
and
businesses.
D
And
so
I
think,
since
we
do
business
licenses
regardless
for
multi-family
housing.
Maybe
this
could
be
an
addition
to.
You
know
to
the
shared
housing
for
them
to
for
us
to
require
business,
licensing.
H
K
K
We
understand
equity
issue
and
the
geographic
equity
issue
in
this
city,
and
that
goes
back
to
1927
when
the
city
was
first
born,
because
what
neighborhood
was
the
one
that
was
the
that
was
only
limited
to
single
and
two
family
homes.
It
was
the
portions
of
the
east
banks
that
existed
in
the
city
at
that
time.
That
was
it
everywhere
else
allowed
apartments,
hotels,
etc.
K
And
so
that's
that's
been
with
us
for
now
a
hundred
years
and
it's
it's
a
big
thing,
no
question
and
needs
to
be
addressed
because
it
is
limiting
how
we
grow
as
a
city
and
and
two
part
of
what
we
were
doing
when
when
we
were
first
asked
to
look
at
this,
and
it
was
right
after
the
growing
slc
was
adopted,
and
this
was
the
first
piece
that
we
were
asked
to
look
at
primarily
because
it
was
that
step
out
of
homelessness
of
experiencing
that
and
because
it
was
limited
in
where
it
could
go.
K
We
needed
to
expand
that
so
that
we
had
options
the
likelihood
of
it
if
we
kept
it,
as
is
the
likelihood
of
where
an
sro
at
the
time
was
going
to
go,
was
going
to
be
on
north
temple
and
it
was
going
to
be
converted
motel.
We
we
knew
that
from
the
beginning,
and
I
think
that's
why
there
are
some
deliberate
actions
taken
to
address
that
and
to
expand
it
and
to
really
look
at
you
know
there.
K
There's
there's
no
reason
why
this
use
shouldn't
be
in
our
downtown
and
it
shouldn't
be
in
sugar
house
with
it
being
a
second
downtown
in
a
mini
downtown.
But
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
too
is
that
you
know
we're
fine.
K
I
think,
for
the
first
time,
in
a
long
time
we're
starting
to
talk
about
actually
planning
our
city
and
putting
those
resources
into
making
sure
our
ordinances
are
working
and
doing
those
kinds
of
things
instead
of
only
reacting
to
development,
which
is
what
we
do
now-
and
this
is
a
big
piece
of
that
and
there's
many
other
pieces
that
we've
put
together
to
help
with
that.
But
hopefully
that
helps
frame
this
conversation
a
little
bit.
I
think
we
are
absolutely
willing
to
put
together
requirements
for
management
plan.
K
We
already
have
some
templates
out
there
and
other
codes,
and
we
can
piece
that
together
rather
quickly
and
get
it
to
the
council,
and
hopefully
that
will
help
everybody
feel
more
comfortable
with
with
where
this
is.
But
it
is
absolutely
a
critical
piece
to
addressing
housing
equity
in
the
city
and,
yes,
it
does
need
to
be
expanded
to
more
parts
of
the
city.
H
Maybe
we
could
ask
katie
to
address
what
and
I
don't
know
if
you
have
time,
but
we
can
also
follow
up
and
ask
her
to
address
it
but
which
things
that
have
been
talked
about
can
be
done
now
without
sending
it
back
to
the
planning
commission
and
which
things
would
necessitate
that.
So
I
think
council,
member
voldemort,
was
talking
about
the
the
separation
requirement.
H
That's
one
issue:
another
issue
is
the
management
plan.
I
think
the
management
plan,
if
you
chose
to
you,
could
those
of
you
who
wanted
to
vote
for
that
you
you.
Could
you
could
do
that
now
without
it
going
back
to
the
planning
commission
but
expanding
it
into
other
zones,
I'm
pretty
sure
would
necessitate
it
going
back
to
the
planning
commission.
H
So
those
are
things
we
would
want
to
check
with
the
attorney's
office
and
either
come
back
to
you
or
ask
them
to
address
now,
because
I
think
we
have
a
mix
there,
some
things
could
be
done.
Other
things
would
send
it
back.
M
Cindy,
I
can
jump
on
in
on
that
sorry
katie.
If
you
want,
unless
you
really
want
to
take
that,
so
the
the
separation
requirement
could
be
handled
now.
That
would
not
need
to
go
back
to
the
planning
commission.
M
You
just
need
to
identify
what
the
specific
spacing
requirements
that
you
would
want
to
implement
and
as
far
as
the
management
plan
that
also
could
be
handled
now
as
something
that's
a
logical
expansion
of
what
the
planning
commission
recommended
to
you.
I
don't
think
that
would
either
one
of
those
would
need
to
go
back.
Yes,
expanding
the
locations
would
need
to
go
back,
you're,
correct.
M
Well,
that
wouldn't
go
to
the
planning
commission,
necessarily
because
business
licensing
isn't,
unless
nick
has
a
different
opinion
on
this.
I
don't
think
that
the
business
licensing
falls
within
the
scope
of
a
land-use
regulation.
H
So
that
would
be
more
like
a
companion
ordinance
that
could
move
forward
at
a
similar
or
the
same
time
right.
M
B
M
If
we're
talking
about
expanding
the
geographic
area,
it
would
need
to
go
back
to
planning
as
far
as
tying
your
hands,
you
can
certainly
add
a
legislative
intent,
but
one
thing:
I'd
try
to
be
careful
of
would
be
binding,
a
future
council
forcing
yourselves
to
come
back.
H
There's
one
thing
I
think
you
could
do
that
is
heavy-handed
and
you
probably
wouldn't
want
to.
But
if
your
question
is
what
what
are
the
options?
You
can
always
sunset
the
ordinance
that
you
are
passing
and
that
way
you're
sort
of
obligated,
because
you
don't
want
to
get
rid
of
everything
you
already
have.
You
want
to
come
back
and
do
that,
but
that
is
sort
of
a
nuclear
option.
E
Cindy,
oh
madam
chair,
didn't
we
I
felt
like
when
we
did
that
when
we
passed
adus,
we
said
that
we
were
going
to
in
two
years
we
were
going
to
have
a
like
an
automatic
like
follow-up
and
come
back
to
us
with
how
to
you
know
what
sort
of
the
next
level
for
adus
can't
we
do
that
it
was
not.
It
wasn't
a
sunset,
but
it
was
like
a
soft
set
yeah.
H
H
C
Yeah
we
we
have
that
queued
up
if
the
if
cherry
vice
chair
is
interested
in
putting
it
on
an
agenda.
I
know
that
planning's
happy
to
give
sort
of
a
briefing
of
what's
rolled
out
what
the
impacts
have
been.
That's
been
perceived,
what
barriers
have
been
perceived,
but
that's
always
there
whenever
you
want
it.
B
K
Was
put
in
that
what
was
put
in
the
ordinance
was
a
requirement
for
an
annual
report,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
transmit
to
the
council
by
whatever
middle
of
february
every
year,
which
we
did
last
year.
We
did
this
year
included
some
recommendations
to
change
that
that
code.
So
just
like
mayor
mendenhall
said
you,
you
have
have
that
queued
up,
you
have
it
in
your
office
already.
So
it's
just
a
matter.
If
you
guys
want
to
schedule
something.
B
So
we
could
do
the
same
thing
here
that
we
could
ask
for
an
annual
report
and
then
with
recommendations
of
this
could
expand
to
somewhere
else.
But
then,
knowing
that
that
expansion
too
somewhere
else
would
have
to,
it
would
be
almost
like
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance,
but
that
would
have
to
go
through
the
planning
commission.
K
I
think
so,
if
I
was
following
that
correctly,
but
but
yeah,
what
we
would
ask
is
that
what
information
do
you
want
to
include
in
the
report
and
frame
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
for
the
first
year.
It's
going
to
be
a
pretty
easy
report.
K
In
fact,
there
may
not
be
one
because
there
may
not
be
any
new
ones
existing,
but
it's
not
it's
not
nearly
as
like.
K
B
I'm
pretty
sure
everyone
was
waiting
on
me
and
I
apologize
or
dog
situation
puppy
needing
to
go
out
like
it
was.
It
was
a
thing,
so
I
apologize
for
that.
Okay,
so
we
could
add
the
reporting
requirement
and
that's
where
I
think
we're
at
right
now
and
bring
this
potentially
back
sooner
rather
than
later.
J
E
Well
so,
madam
chair,
just
so
that
we
can
have
a
like
a
goal
to
this,
like
does
some.
I
would
ask
one
of
my
council
members,
colleagues,
that
if
you're
having
you
know,
concerns
about
this
or
reservations,
would
you
make
a
straw
poll
so
that
we
know
where
we're
going.
B
I
I
if
I
can
chris,
I
think,
with
what
russell
wrote
down
and
the
idea
that
we
can
at
least
do
two
of
the
things
that
addressed
concerns
without
having
to
take
this
back
to
planning
and
potentially
well
three
of
the
things
with
the
report
and
potentially
a
fourth
with
adding
some
amount
of
language,
whether
it
be
a
legislative
intent
that
might
not
clear
everything,
but
we
could
maybe
work
with
the
attorney's
office
on
some
language
that
we
could
include
it.
It
seems
like
there's
a
kind
of
marching
order.
I
Oh,
my
goodness,
okay,
these
are,
these
are
the
items.
I
Voice
a
need
to
expand
the
geographic
equity
I've
also
got.
I've
also
got
the
idea
about
about
a
buffer
zone.
You
know
of
requiring
one
per
x
number
of
feet
and
to
have
business
license
enforcement
as
part
of
the
as
as
part
of
the
ordinance.
B
Thank
you
russell,
so
I
think
with
those
sort
of
marching
orders,
we
could
come
back
and
visit
this
and
it
sounds
like
and
we'll
talk
with,
nick
and
planning
and
the
attorney's
office
with
some
of
that
added
language.
But
again,
I'd
like
to
see
this
not
to
put
even
more
work
on
nick
and
his
team,
but
hopefully
sooner
rather
than
later,
to
have
another
discussion
with
that
added
language.
Some
of
those
added
requirements
in
there.
B
I
think
that
that's
exactly
his
concern
and
that
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
planning
commission
and
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
from
some
of
the
other
council
members
is.
We
want
to
get
at
least
something
out
there
now
with
the
intent
to
expand
and
amend
after
if
that
amendment
or
expansion
has
gone
through
the
planning
commission.
J
If
we
don't
find
ourselves
to
have
that
intent
and
discussion,
it's
not
going
to
come
up
naturally,
because
we're
going
to
have
this
is
a
big.
You
know
this
is
a
tinderbox
we're
going
to
go
into
single-family
residential
districts,
we're
going
to
go
into
areas
that
haven't
had
this
and
unless
we
are
willing
to
say
we're
going
to
do
that
on
the
time
frame,
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
J
So
I
think
I
wanted
to
go
forward
with
it,
as
is
now
with
those
things
we've
talked
about,
but
I
think
we
need
to
add
a
legislative
intent
that
we
have
to
make
this
an
issue
for
us
going
forward.
We
have
to
find
ourselves
to
in
some
ways
address
this
as
a
counseling.
H
Cindy
is
this
step
beyond
legislative
intent
might
be
just
show,
show
your
interest
in
it
is
for
either
the
council
or
the
mayor
to
go
ahead
and
file.
The
petition
with
planning,
so
that
your
intent
is
is
is
very
clear
to
make
it
city-wide.
If
that's,
if
that's
of
interest,
it's
another
tool.
B
C
I
I
hope
that
what
you
heard
from
nick
and
from
me
about
our
clear
intention
to
expand
this
across
the
city
gives
you
any
level
of
comfort
that
you
know
whether
or
not
you
do
a
legislative
intent
or
some
other
binding
language
we're
doing
this
when
it
comes
to
a
city-wide
application.
C
This
is
it's
a
more
dense
housing
type
than
the
adu
conversation
that
is
about
single-family,
home
neighborhoods
and
the
zoning
types
that
apply
there.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
for
the
public
that
I
don't
think
what
we're
talking
about
is
rezoning
single
family
homes
to
become
shared,
multiple
housing,
but
that
there's
absolutely
areas
throughout
the
city,
south,
north
east
and
west.
That
would
be
great
fits
for
this,
and
we
want
that.
D
No,
no,
no!
No!
No!
No!
No
one
final
comment.
One
final
comment:
please
please,
when
I
spoke
earlier,
what
I
want
the
public
and
all
of
us
to
understand
where
I'm
coming
from
it's
about
us
thinking
about
solutions
to
help
our
homeless
populations
and
the
city
does
a
lot
and
we
do
and
we
keep
thinking
and
strategizing
allocating
funds
we're
trying
everything
we
can
really.
D
I
mean
we
have
shown
that
over
and
over
and
over
our
commitment
to
help
our
homeless
neighbors,
where
I'm
coming
from
is,
as
we
go
through
this
process
to
provide
another
another
solution
to
think
about
all
the
issues
that
may
come
along
and
how
to
solve
those
if
they
ever
come
along.
So
I'm
trying
to
think
of
anticipation
of
issues.
D
That
might
happen,
and
maybe
you
know
we
won't
have
any
issues,
but
I
just
want
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
need
to
also
plan
for
those
issues
that
may
arise
and
we,
I
would
hope
that
we
have
things
in
place
now,
so
that
we
don't
burden
our
different
departments
and
our
different
city
and
staff,
and
also
the
neighborhoods,
with
with
issues
that
we
didn't
plan
for
ahead
of
time
or
didn't
have
a
mechanism
to
mitigate.
So
that's
where
I'm
coming
from
those
are
my
final
comments.
Thank
you.
B
Great
thanks
everyone.
We
will
follow
up
on
this
in
a
very
timely
manner.
Okay,
we're
moving
to
our
next
lovely
subject
of
zoning
text,
amendment
to
increase
building
height
limits
in
a
portion
of
the
gmu
zone.
This
is
a
follow-up
from
several
repeats
and
briefings.
We
have
russell
weeks
again,
nick
norris
and
nick
norris's
team,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
russell
and
then
planning
can
take
it
away.
I
So
so,
madam
chair,
the
area
we're
talking
about-
and
this
is
taken
from
the
salt
lake
city
master
plan,
the
area
we're
talking
about
is
that
is
that
blank
area
on
the
on
the
lower
left-hand
side
of
of
the
of
the
master
plan
that
it's
it's
that
acreage.
I
That's
that's
across
the
street
from
from
the
intermodal
hub,
and
that
is
not
shown
as
having
been
developed
in
any
way.
The
the
group
stack
realty
clearly
has
presented
a
proposal
to
increase
building
heights
within
that
area.
Well
within
a
larger
area
that
was
included
in
the
staff
report
and
that
whole
area
is
zoned
as
gateway
mixed
use.
Right
now,
after
the
last
council
discussion
in
autumn
2020,
the
council
and
the
administrative
staff
were
asked
to
provide
options
and
we
all
met.
I
We
met
on
january
26
and
came
back
with
four
options,
and
here
they
are
one.
One
option
is
to
deny
the
petition
and
keep
the
zoning
as
it
is.
I
The
third.
The
third
option
is
to
adopt
the
ordinance
but
apply
it
only
to
the
property.
That's
that's
owned
or
leased
by
stack,
realty
or
for
adopt
either
the
entire
ordinance
or
or
or
limit
the
ordinance
to
the
property
owned
by
stack
realty,
but
require
the
petitioner
to
either
build
affordable
housing
as
part
of
the
project
or
contribute
to
the
city's
housing
trust
fund
or
negotiate
with
the
rda
about
allowing
design
guidelines
around
the
station
center.
I
Neighborhood
that
that
the
rda
has
prepared,
including
extending
market
street
mid
block
and
the
the
the
third
part
of
that
option
is
you
could
require
them
to
do
both?
I
E
Are
other
representatives
of
stack,
perhaps
in
the
audience?
Yes,.
B
Thank
you
russell
for
that,
and
and
before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
updated
staff
report.
It
was
really
helpful
for
me
in
getting
a
lot
of
the
that
information,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that.
B
K
B
Okay,
see
the
second,
I
am
like,
that's
it,
we
don't.
B
It's
like
when
you
close
the
door,
tell
your
kid
you're,
leaving
and
close
the
door
and
they
come
running
out
after
you
darren
go
ahead
and
then
we'll
get
to
andrew.
G
I
I
mean,
I
think,
all
of
the
options
that
are
that
russell
presented.
The
things
are
things
I'm
interested
in.
I
don't
necessarily
need
100
of
them
or
every
single
one
of
them.
I
definitely
am.
G
I
definitely
want
to
get
affordable
housing
out
of
this
area
and
I
think
the
the
additional
the
incentive
of
additional
heights
in
return
for
the
affordable
housing
is
important
to
me.
So
because
of
that,
I
do
not
want
to
apply
the
additional
heights
to
the
entire
area
without
that
affordable
housing
incentive
bonus.
But
I
think
so
I
think
if
we
were
to
limit
it
to
just
the
stax
development
parcel
and
then
consider
some
of
the
other
things
and
consider
the
affordable
housing
or
whatever
else.
G
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
going
forward
with
it,
but
I
definitely
want
I
don't
want
to
apply
to
the
whole
thing
with
no
affordable
housing
component
to
it
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
affordable
housing
thing
looks
like
or
how
that
would
work,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
that
was
clarified,
but
that's
where
I
met.
J
I
agree
with
darren-
I
don't
think
they're
intended
to
build
housing
here,
so
I
don't
think
building
affordable
housing
makes
sense,
but
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
the
incentive
for
additional
height
to
tie
jobs
to
housing
within
the
city
as
much
as
we
can.
I
think
there's
some
responsibility
that
we
have
to
work
with
everyone
to
make
sure
that
there
is
housing
for
jobs
coming
in
in
some
capacity,
so
whether
it's
a
fund
or
some
other
creative
way
to
go
about
this,
I
think
darren's
right.
L
Madam
chair,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
in
regards
to
that
statement
for
affordable
housing
andrew's
spot
on.
That's
not
what
they're
looking
at
currently
at
this
project,
but
if
they
do
look
at
that,
I
think
that
just
throwing
it
out
there
isn't
enough.
We
need
to
discuss
what
what
does
that
mean
policy
wise?
What
does
that
mean
if
we're
going
to
give
them
height
on
that?
If
they're
going
to
do
affordability.
M
L
Saying
in
gmu
right
I
mean
what
does
that
mean
for
council
members?
Are
you
looking
at
square
footage?
You
say
this
or
is
it
as
a
dollar
price
that
they
they
put
into
the
housing
trust
fund?
That's
I
mean
that's
something
that
we
haven't
discussed
before
and
I
feel
like
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
statement
where
I
don't
know
how
long
we've
been
at
this
nick
norris.
How
long
has
this
one
been
going
on?
L
I
appreciate
that
andrew,
so
yeah
we're
we're
coming
up
on
year.
Two
pretty
close
here
so
and
I
understand
we've
had
pandemic.
We've
done
this,
but
this
is
where
I
feel
like.
We
are
seriously
just
dragging
our
feet
and
and
looking
at
this
and
I'm
I'm
more
than
willing
and
comfortable
moving
forward
doing
this
specifically
tied
to
this
property
or
the
lease
around
it
and
looking
at
that,
but
moving
forward.
Yet
I
I
mean
we
discussed
looking
at
this
whole
whole
project
moving
forward,
but
we're
dragging
feet
again.
G
I
I
just
think
it's
also
important
to
remember
that
this
was
there
was
a
negative
recommendation
by
planning
staff
and
planning
commission
forward
on
this
one.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
other
proposals
where
we,
where
it
was
recommended
that
we
approve
it
and
we're
dragging
our
feet.
So
I
think
I
think
there
is
a
bit
of
a
difference
on
that
so
for
us
to
overturn
the
planning,
commission
and
playing
staff.
So
no
recommendation.
L
I
don't
mean
to
go
back
and
forth
council
member
mono,
but
I
am
because
I'm
not
talking
specifically
tied
to
this
project.
I'm
talking
about
station
center,
so
station
center
area
was
done
a
long
time
ago.
We've
had
several
projects
come
to
the
area.
Here
you
know,
they've
got
come
and
gone.
We
have
one
that
is
actually
still
here.
Surprisingly
18
months
later.
So
that's
what
I'm
I'm
not
specifically
saying
this
project,
I'm
tying
it
to
specific
project
areas
that
aren't
getting
anything.
I
mean
we
discussed
greenery
that
that
hasn't
had
anything.
B
Andrew,
if
you'll
give
me
a
second
to
see
if
there's
some
other
questions,
that
might
be
helpful.
If
you
wait
a
little
bit
if
you
may
address
other
issues
that
kept
coming
up
once
we
get
to
that
point
thanks.
Council
members,
are
there
other
questions
cindy
you
popped
on.
So
just
sorry.
H
So
under
your
rules,
specifically,
the
petitioner
just
has
the
one
opportunity
in
the
initial
briefing.
But
if
council
members
have
questions,
then
you
can
ask
the
petitioner
to
respond
or
you
can
get
the
council
to
weigh
the
rule.
B
B
E
Okay,
I
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
to
talk
about
the
project,
because
I
think
that
part's
been
covered,
but
maybe
just
addressing
just
a
couple
of
things
that
have
been
brought
up
so
far.
One
is
your
council,
member,
johnson
and
councilmember
rogers
are
right.
We're
not
focused
on
housing
on
this
particular
site,
we're
focused
on
office.
E
That's
the
primary
driver
to
the
extent
that
there
is
a
housing
component,
then,
of
course,
we're
willing
to
to
participate
in
in
the
affordable
housing
effort,
whatever
that
needs
to
be
or,
however,
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
The
second
item
on
the
planning
commission
recommendation.
I
think
it's
really
important.
We
brought
this
up
in
kind
of
the
previous
discussions
that
recommendation
and
it's
in
the
minutes.
E
Several
members
of
the
planning
commission
made
reference
that,
while
they
felt
like
it,
was
an
appropriate
action
to
take
to
increase
the
height
here,
their
hands
were
tied
because
they're
the
land
use
authority
they
had
to
they
had
to
they
had
to
go
off
of
what
it
was
currently
zoned
as
not
what
they
thought
it
should
be
in
the
future,
but
that
it
was
in
yoga.
In
the
council's
hands
to
do
that,
so
they
were
strictly
kind
of
abiding
by
the
book,
not
what
they
felt
should
be
done.
E
E
B
Thanks
andrew
darren,
you
had
your
hand
up.
G
Yeah,
I
I'm
pretty
sure
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
when
this
went
through
the
planning
commission
and
that's
not
my
exact
memory.
I
remember
I
remember
expressing
that
this
made
sense.
The
additional
heights
made
sense,
but
that
doing
it
without
certain
things
like
additional
public
benefits
or
not
like
requiring
mixture
of
uses
or
making
sure
that
the
the
area
developed
in
a
way
that
was
that
would
become
a
destination
was
more
the
the
reason
why
I
remember
not
forwarding
a
positive
recommendation,
so
I
think
it
was
more
the.
G
How
does
this
area
you
know?
Does
it
a
office
building
with
no
housing
in
it,
and
no
retail,
potentially
maybe
some
retail
small
retail?
Does
that
lead
to
the
type
of
destination
that
I
think
station
center
can
be,
and
I
wasn't
convinced
that
there
was
enough
in
the
ordinance
to
ensure
that.
B
B
Okay,
well,
we
will
be
putting
this
on
a
future
agenda
for
action.
I
B
Andrew
thanks
for
being
with
us
that
probably
didn't
give
you
much
clarity,
but
you'll,
hopefully
have
an
answer
of
one
way
or
another
soon.
E
B
We
are
on
agenda
item
number
five,
which
is
a
follow-up
on
the
percent
for
art
ordinance.
So
I
believe
we
have
been
lucky
and
felicia
here
with
us
on
that
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
N
Note
that,
even
with
that
higher
level
of
annual
funding
for
art
maintenance,
there
will
likely
still
be
instances
where
either
art,
repairs
or
replacement
of
an
artwork
will
require
more
funding
than
this
higher
ongoing
funding
would
cover.
In
those
instances
the
additional
funding
would
come
to
the
council.
N
In
a
budget
amendment
council
member
fowler
met
with
the
economic
development
department
and
the
attorney's
office
to
discuss
delegation
of
authority
options
for
the
annual
amount
of
funding
going
to
new
art
versus
art,
maintenance,
I'll
provide
a
quick
summary
of
the
council
requested
changes
and
I
believe
we
have
director
colander
and
I'm
not
sure
if
felicia
is
also
with
us.
If
the
council
has
questions,
the
first
change
is
on
lines
62
and
65
of
the
draft
ordinance.
N
N
N
Those
are
all
the
changes.
Are
there
any
questions.
B
And
I
just
before
I
take
questions.
Thank
you
by
the
way,
but
before
we
take
questions,
I
do
want
to
clarify
one
thing
that
well.
It
says
it
delays
the
1.5,
we're
not
suggesting
that
the
recommendation
not
be
one
point:
five
percent.
We
all
took
a
straw
poll
on
that
everyone,
straw
polled
yay
support
the
one
point:
five
percent,
it's
just
in
speaking
with
the
attorney's
office
and
how
the
ordinance
would
work
that
if
they're
going
to
be
combined
the
report
and
the
1.5
percent
that
it
would.
B
C
Just
one
clarification:
if
I
can,
I
the
way
that
we
had
drafted
it
was
that
the
ordinance
would
become
effective
at
the
date
that
it's
published,
except
for
the
reporting
requirement
would
be
delayed
and
so
ben.
If
that's
different
from
your
understanding
or
what
we
discussed.
Please.
Let
me
know.
B
Okay,
I
see
some
thumbs
up
all
around
that's
great.
We
will
put
this
on
tentative.
It
is
on
next
two
weeks,
it's
in
two
weeks
on
that
agenda,
correct
april
6th.
So
thank
you.
Everyone,
thanks,
felicia
and
alison
for
meeting
with
me
and
their
hard
work
on
this
and
look
forward
to
this
new
revised
ordinance
thanks.
So.
H
B
Okay,
council
members,
I
have
a
question
for
you
now
we
have
somewhat
caught
up,
which
is
awesome,
so
we
are
at,
but
excuse
me
agenda,
item
number
six,
that
is
the
budget
amendment
number
seven
and
it
is
6
28.
So
we
were
scheduled
for
dinner,
break
at
6
25..
B
We
had
anticipated
a
closed
session
during
the
dinner
break,
but
we're
going
to
move
it.
It's
not
as
urgent
as
we
thought
and
so
we're
going
to
move
that
closed
session
to
april
6th,
so
now,
thoughts.
B
B
All
right,
I've
got
three
and
then
no
votes,
and
so
I
will
take
that
as
we
are
taking
a
break,
we
will
come
back.
G
G
B
Okay,
let's
be
back
here
in.
B
O
O
Hello
and
welcome
to
this
week's
episode
of
capital
city
news,
as
we
continue
to
celebrate
women's
history
month,
it's
important
to
honor
the
women
of
our
past
as
well
as
our
present.
There
are
many
contributions
women
make
in
our
community
and
around
the
world,
especially
right
here
in
salt
lake
city.
Take,
for
example,
this
women
2020
mural
by
jan
hayward,
a
local
artist
who
captured
more
than
250
women
and
their
stories.
It's
on
display
here
in
downtown
on
100
south,
come
and
check
it
out
on
this
week's
episode.
O
We
hear
from
salt
lake
city
council,
member
anna
valdamoros,
who
reflects
on
the
women's
rights
to
vote
and
her
journey
as
a
political
leader,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
olive
woolly,
burt,
teacher
journalist
and
author
who
elevated
women's
history
in
her
day-to-day
work.
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back.
P
O
Attention,
salt,
lake
city
businesses,
the
city's
largest
funding,
our
future
voter
approved
bond
project
300
west,
will
begin
construction.
This
spring.
The
project
team
is
hosting
a
workshop
for
businesses
along
the
corridor
on
april,
6th
attendees
will
learn
more
about
when
the
project
will
begin.
What
the
impacts
are
the
process
to
resolve
problems
and
how
to
get
in
contact
with
the
team.
If
you
are
a
business
that
wants
to
register
for
the
workshop,
please
call
385-360-1313
or
email
saltlakecitycoms
gmail.com
to
learn
more
visit,
300
west.
O
O
This
month
is
women's
history
month
and
here
in
salt
lake
city.
We're
not
only
just
celebrating
women
in
history,
but
we're
also
celebrating
women
in
politics,
and
sarah
young
was
one
of
the
first
women
here
in
the
nation
to
cast
her
ballot
and
to
vote,
and
it
happened
to
be
right
here
in
utah
and
as
a
woman
in
political
office.
O
D
How
amazing
that
that
was
able
to
happen,
and
also
how
tragic
that
we
are
celebrating
something
so
essential,
as
you
know,
the
right
to
vote,
as,
as
you
know,
to
have
the
same
rights
as
men
have
so
I
I
am
very
thankful
for
you
know,
for
the
work
and
for
the
for
the
energy.
You
know
women
before
me
and
especially
seraphian
put
at
the
time
you
know
and
fought.
D
I'm
missing,
like
nailing
teeth
right,
like
or
nailing
tooth,
like
fight
for
something
so
essential
to
involve
women
in
the
political
process
in
the
in
democracy
and
really
have
our
voices
heard
and
obviously,
without
her
we
a
lot
of
women
in
politics,
and
me
wouldn't
even
be
here.
So
you
know
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
all
that
work
that
somebody
else
did
before
me.
So
I
could
have
this
opportunity.
O
D
Well,
first
of
all,
I'm
an
immigrant
right,
and
so
not
only
I'm
amazed
that
you
know
that
that
I
was
elected
because
of
you
know,
because
of
these
layers,
that
we
have
as
immigrants
like
these
layers
of
barriers
that
we
have
to
cross
and
I'm
extremely
grateful
that
salt
lake
city,
especially
the
district
4
voters,
you
know,
gave
me
a
chance
and
basically,
I
think,
looking
back
it's
because
of
the
community
involvement
because
of
you
know
well-known
showing
up
and
really
trying
to
do
your
best
to
help
your
community,
and
I
think,
people
valued
that
people
people
were
able
to
see
that
it
doesn't
matter
what
accent
or
what
color
or
what
gender
I
mean.
D
Somebody
is
generally
interested
in
you
know
in
helping
the
the
community,
so
the
way
I
got
involved
was
coming.
You
know
coming
to
the
u.s,
to
the
u.s,
sorry
to
go
to
the
eu.
I
got
a
planning
degree
and
I
was
given
the
chance
by
another
woman
at
salt
lake
city
to
to
be
you
know,
to
be
an
intern
and
the
salt
lake
city
planning
division,
slash
community
development
at
that
time
and
I
had
a
mentor
there
and
then
I
became
friends
with
another
mentor
that
is
she's
my
lifelong
friend.
D
We
share
this
friend
you
and
I
put
them
very
closely,
and
this
is
meredith
lewis,
another
woman
of
color
from
the
east
coast.
She
really
took
me
under
her
wing.
We
were,
we
were
going
like
we're
sitting
next
to
each
other,
but
she
really,
you
know,
helped
me
understand.
D
D
That
believed
in
me
and
as
I
was
building
the
businesses
as
I
was
a
city
planner
as
I
was
really
involved,
that
was,
I
was
able
to
you,
know
to
tell
my
story
to
district
4
voters
and
tell
them
hey.
I
am
a
planner,
I
know
I
know
what
you're
going
through
and
I
think
I
have
the
desire-
and
you
know,
and
hopefully
the
power
to
change
certain
things
for
our
district.
O
And
council
member
of
aldemarelles,
just
in
closing
now,
if
individuals
want
to
stay
connected
with,
you,
learn
more
about
what
you're
doing
what
you're
up
to
with
the
the
city,
council
and
and
just
things
happening
out.
You
know
in
the
business
realm
here
in
salt
lake
city.
How
can
they
stay
connected?
What's
the
best
way
to
stay
connected.
D
The
best
way
to
stay
connected,
if
you
want
to
you
know
if
you
would
like
to
meet
with
me
or
if
you'd
like
to
talk
about
politics
or
some
business
or
or
or
policies
as
council
members,
you
can
reach
me
at
anna
thatvaldemoros
slcgov.com,
I'm
happy
to
meet.
Obviously
we
were
meeting
not
in
person
but
through
webex
and
I'm
happy
to
set
up
a
half
an
hour.
You
know
call
or
webex
meeting
and
we
can
talk
about
anything
related
to
city.
You
can
find
me,
you
know
at
square
kitchen.
P
Born
in
1894,
all
of
wooly
published
her
first
poem
in
the
san
francisco
examiner
in
1905
at
the
age
of
nine
years
old
by
1913,
she
was
teaching
elementary
school
and
by
1918
she'd
received
her
degree
from
the
university
of
utah
and
in
1922
she
married
a
fellow
teacher
in
1927,
though
all
of
willie
burt's
career
took
a
turn.
She
took
a
job
as
the
children's
editor
of
the
salt
lake
tribune
and
kept
that
post
until
1945
when
she
moved
to
the
deseret
news
where
she
remained
until
her
retirement
in
1967..
P
P
P
O
O
O
Hello
and
welcome
to
this
week's
episode
of
capital
city
news,
as
we
continue
to
celebrate
women's
history
month,
it's
important
to
honor
the
women
of
our
past
as
well
as
our
present.
There
are
many
contributions
women
make
in
our
community
and
around
the
world,
especially
right
here
in
salt
lake
city.
Take,
for
example,
this
women
2020
mural
by
jan
hayward,
a
local
artist
who
captured
more
than
250
women
and
their
stories.
O
It's
on
display
here
in
downtown
on
100
south,
come
and
check
it
out
on
this
week's
episode,
we
hear
from
salt
lake
city
council,
member
anaval
damuros,
who
reflects
on
the
women's
rights
to
vote
and
her
journey
as
a
political
leader,
and
our
history
minute
is
about
olive
woolly,
burt,
teacher
journalist
and
author
who
elevated
women's
history
in
her
day-to-day
work.
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back.
P
O
Coronavirus.Utah.Gov
attention,
salt
lake
city
businesses,
the
city's
largest
funding,
our
future
voter
approved
bond
project,
300
west,
will
begin
construction.
This
spring.
The
project
team
is
hosting
a
workshop
for
businesses
along
the
corridor.
On
april,
6th
attendees
will
learn
more
about
when
the
project
will
begin.
What
the
impacts
are
the
process
to
resolve
problems
and
how
to
get
in
contact
with
the
team.
If
you
are
a
business
that
wants
to
register
for
the
workshop,
please
call
385-360-1313
or
email
saltlakecitycoms
gmail.com
to
learn
more
visit,
300
west
slc.com.
O
O
This
month
is
women's
history
month
and
here
in
salt
lake
city.
We're
not
only
just
celebrating
women
in
history,
but
we're
also
celebrating
women
in
politics,
and
sarah
young
was
one
of
the
first
women
here
in
the
nation
to
cast
her
ballot
and
to
vote,
and
it
happened
to
be
right
here
in
utah
and
as
a
woman
in
political
office.
O
D
How
amazing
that
that
was
able
to
happen,
and
also
how
tragic
that
we
are
celebrating
something
so
essential,
as
you
know,
the
right
to
vote,
as,
as
you
know,
to
have
the
same
rights
as
men
have
so
I
I
am
very
thankful
for
you
know,
for
the
work
and
for
the
for
the
energy.
D
You
know
women
before
me,
and
especially
seraph
young
put
at
the
time
you
know
and
fought
I'm
visiting
like
nail
and
teeth
right
like
or
nailing
tooth,
like
fight
for
something
so
essential
to
involve
women
in
the
political
process
in
the
democracy
and
really
have
our
voices
heard
and
obviously,
without
her
we
a
lot
of
women
in
politics,
and
me
wouldn't
even
be
here.
So
you
know
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
all
that
work
that
somebody
else
did
before
me.
So
I
could
have
this
opportunity.
O
D
Well,
first
of
all,
I'm
an
immigrant
right,
and
so
not
only
I'm
amazed
that
you
know
that
that
I
was
elected
because
of
you
know,
because
of
these
layers,
that
we
have
as
immigrants
like
these
layers
of
barriers
that
we
have
to
cross
and
I'm
extremely
grateful
that
salt
lake
city,
especially
the
district
four
voters,
you
know,
gave
me
a
chance
and
basically,
I
think,
looking
back
it's
because
of
the
community
involvement
because
of
you
know
well-known
showing
up
and
really
trying
to
do
your
best
to
help
your
community,
and
I
think,
people
valued
that
people
people
were
able
to
see
that
it
doesn't
matter
what
accent
or
what
color
or
what
gender
I
mean.
D
Somebody
is
generally
interested
in
you
know
in
helping
the
the
community,
so
the
way
I
got
involved
was
coming.
You
know
coming
to
the
yes
to
the
u.s,
sorry
to
go
to
the
eu.
I
got
a
planning
degree
and
I
was
given
the
chance
by
another
woman
at
salt
lake
city
to
to
be
you
know,
to
be
an
intern
and
the
salt
lake
city
planning
division,
slash
community
development
at
the
time,
and
I
had
a
mentor
there
and
then
I
became
friends
with
another
mentor
that
is
she's
my
lifelong
friend.
D
We
share
this
friend
you
and
I
puna
very
closely,
and
this
is
marilyn
lewis,
another
woman
of
color
from
the
east
coast.
She
really
took
me
under
her
wing.
We
were,
we
were
going
like
we're
sitting
next
to
each
other,
but
she
really,
you
know,
helped
me
understand.
D
D
That
believed
in
me
and
as
I
was
building
the
businesses
as
I
was
a
city
planner
as
I
was
really
involved,
that
was,
I
was
able
to
you,
know
to
tell
my
story
to
district
4
voters
and
tell
them
hey.
I
am
a
planner,
I
know
I
know
what
you're
going
through
and
I
think
I
have
the
desire-
and
you
know,
and
hopefully
the
power
to
change
certain
things
for
our
district
and.
O
Council,
member
of
aldemarelles,
just
in
closing
now,
if
individuals
want
to
stay
connected
with,
you,
learn
more
about
what
you're
doing
what
you're
up
to
with
the
the
city,
council
and
and
just
things
happening
out.
You
know
in
the
business
realm
here
in
salt
lake
city.
How
can
they
stay
connected?
What's
the
best
way
to
stay
connected.
D
The
best
way
to
stay
connected,
if
you
want
to
you
know
if
you
would
like
to
meet
with
me
or
if
you'd
like
to
talk
about
politics
or
some
business
or
or
or
policies
as
council
members,
you
can
reach
me
at
anna
that
valdomoros
slcgov.com
I'm
happy
to
meet.
Obviously
we
were
meeting
not
in
person
but
through
webex
and
I'm
happy
to
set
up
a
half
an
hour.
You
know
call
or
webex
meeting
and
we
can
talk
about
anything
related
to
city.
You
can
find
me,
you
know
at
square
kitchen.
P
Born
in
1894,
all
of
wooly
published
her
first
poem
in
the
san
francisco
examiner
in
1905
at
the
age
of
nine
years
old
by
1913,
she
was
teaching
elementary
school
and
by
1918
she'd
received
her
degree
from
the
university
of
utah
and
in
1922
she
married
a
fellow
teacher
in
1927,
though
all
of
willie
burt's
career
took
a
turn.
She
took
a
job
as
the
children's
editor
of
the
salt
lake
tribune
and
kept
that
post
until
1945
when
she
moved
to
the
deseret
news
where
she
remained
until
her
retirement
in
1967..
P
P
P
O
O
A
A
A
A
A
B
Assuming
we
are
good
john,
are
we
good
with
you
excellent?
Okay?
We
are
now
on
to
agenda
item
number
six
welcome
back
everyone.
B
By
the
way
we
I
hope
you
got
some
food
or
at
least
got
to
walk
around
a
little
bit,
which
is
what
I
did
a
little
break
on
agenda
item
number
six,
which
is
our
budget
amendment
number
seven,
so
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
ben
and
then,
of
course
we
have
mary
beth
and
john
from
the
finance
department,
so
we
will
turn
it
to
ben
thanks
ben.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
There
is
a
straw
poll
and
a
policy
question
for
the
council.
The
straw
poll
would
be
if
the
council
supports
this
funding
approach
to
replace
the
boilers
by
delaying
other
facility
projects.
It
would
allow
the
administration
to
place
the
order,
but
payment
could
not
be
made
until
this
budget
amendment
is
formally
adopted.
N
I
N
The
87
million
from
the
american
rescue
plan
is
not
expected
to
be
delivered,
for,
I
think,
a
couple
more
months
if
it
could
be
used
to
reimburse
fund
balance.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
guidance
from
treasury
to
clearly
answer
that
yet,
but
I'll
defer
to
mary
beth.
She
probably
knows
the
latest
info
better
than
I
do.
Q
No,
I
think,
ben
you
are
correct.
We
haven't.
E
G
N
B
N
I
I
know
it's
several
fire
stations,
but
I
I
have
to
look
up
those
two.
I
know
where
to
look
but
give
me
a
second.
G
G
N
B
Sorry,
I
I'm
shaking
my
head,
not
because
I
don't
obviously
want
to
approve
the
boiler
stuff
broiler
spoilers,
but
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
delaying
these
other
projects
that
one
we
know
the
ballpark
has
in
the
past
created
could
potentially
create
a
liability
of
somebody
getting
hurt?
B
If
we're
not
careful
of
the
facility,
I
mean,
I
think
that
could
happen
any
in
any
of
our
facilities,
but
then
to
council
member
mano's
point
that
we're
not
just
putting
these
projects
back
into
the
queue
and
if
it's
an
hvac
system
in
sorensen,
are
we
going
to
come
back
in
two
years
from
now
with
the
same
emergency
problem
that
we
are
having
in
other
places
because
of
deferred
maintenance?
E
Right
council
chair,
thank
you,
council
and
thanks
for
the
good
questions.
These
are
the
questions
that
we
struggle
with
every
day
on
these
decisions.
When
we
put
forward
our
request
for
cip,
we
put
together
projects
that
are
next
on
the
list,
knowing
that
something
might
break
and
we're
going
to
have
to
shuffle.
So
we
are
often
pushing
projects
back,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
would
do
here.
E
In
the
meantime,
we
look
for
any
and
all
other
sources
of
funding
and
we
are
going
through
the
process
of
looking
at
potential
ara
projects
that
could
be
taken
off
our
deferred
list
and
we
have
always
put
together
large
projects
in
what
we
call
a
shovel
ready
list.
So
in
case
any
other
funding
comes
up
for
large
projects,
so
we're
constantly
reworking
those
plans,
but
there
really
is
no
mechanism
for
very
large
capital
projects
right
now,
as
ben
mentioned,
the
cdcip
is
very
frustrated
with
that.
E
So
this
is
something
we
we
hope
not
to
come
back
for
emergency
budget
amendments,
but
it's
almost
the
only
method
we
have
for
funding
large,
unexpected
repairs,
and
then
we
have
very
many
large
expected
repairs
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
fund
either.
I
know
that's
not
a
good
answer
for
you.
It's
just
the
reality
of
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now,.
J
E
No,
that
is
right.
Mary
beth
is
still
researching
all
of
the
requirements
of
ara,
so
we
prepared
lists
of
things
in
case
they
are
eligible
for
that
funding
and
we're
certainly
looking
at
items
that
are
that
would
provide
the
most
community
benefit
and
have
an
equity
component
to
them
and
can
alleviate
or
provide
more
services
for
residents
who
have
been
most
impacted.
But
those
are
decisions
that
I
believe
mary
beth
is
still
working
on,
or
guidelines
and
we're
just
being
prepared
for
those.
J
Okay,
maybe
one
other
question
it
sounds
like
this
is
a
pretty
typical
process
of
just
what
we
fund
first
and
it
sounds
like
the
boilers.
Sound
like
the
biggest
emergency
of
many
emergencies.
Is
that
accurate.
E
That's
right,
we
don't
have
any
other
big
big
emergencies
facing
us
right
now
and
what
happened
on
this
one
is
facilities,
was
doing
good
preventive
maintenance
in
the
boiler
room
and
noticed
some
problems
with
an
auxiliary
system.
It
knocked
off
a
chunk
of
scale
and
rust,
which
then
caused
the
pipe
to
leak
through.
E
Q
J
Well,
I
mean
I,
I
would
take
a
lot
of
part
in
the
possibility
of
using
some
federal
stimulus
funds.
I
think
we
have
to
be
judicious
and
long-term
thinking
about
those
obviously,
but
I'd
be
comfortable
moving
forward
with
this
plan
either
way
it
comes
out
of
some
balance,
one
way
or
the
other.
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
sort
of
hold
ourselves
to
ensuring
that
we
get
to
those
other
projects
this
next
year.
L
Yeah,
I
understand
boilers
pretty
well
and
I
understand
those
heat
exchangers
too
they're
very
temperamental.
So
I
I
it's
an
expensive
project,
but
it
also
heats
in
a
lot
of
buildings,
so
appreciate
that,
are
there
any
other
questions
for
this
item?
N
L
Okay,
council
members
we're
going
to
go
off
that
strap
hole.
Do
you
support
this
budget
amendment
all
thumbs
up
council
member
mono,
council
member
baltimore's
that
set
looks
good.
We've
got
six
with
council
member
fowler
rebooting
our
computer,
so.
B
L
N
B
N
N
N
N
Items
a
13,
14
and
15
are
four
existing
contracts
for
voluntary
police
officer
overtime.
The
administration
is
requesting
that
the
payments
be
recognized
in
the
police
department
budget
I'll
go
through
the
contracts
quickly.
The
first
two
are
with
salt
lake
county.
The
first
was
for
security
services
at
the
red
lion,
hotel,
which
acted
as
a
quarantine
facility.
N
N
N
N
N
E
N
Item
d3
is
a
housekeeping
adjustment,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
to
bring
to
the
council's
attention
in
the
fiscal
year
21
annual
budget,
two
fiscal
years
of
funding
for
the
social
workers
program,
was
moved
from
the
police
department
to
non-departmental,
which
was
incorrect.
It
should
have
been
one
fiscal
year.
N
N
You
can
see
attachment.
7
has
an
infographic
about
this
proposed
pilot.
It
would
provide
on-demand
service
connecting
residents,
visitors
and
commuters
between
bus
and
tracks
routes
and
areas
of
the
city
that
are
largely
residential.
This
would
help
with
the
first
mile
last
mile
challenge
in
transportation.
N
This
pilot
would
be
done
in
collaboration
with
uta.
The
goal
is
to
launch
in
august
of
this
year,
in
tandem
with
the
change
day,
the
funding
800
000
is
only
for
startup
costs.
An
additional
1
million
dollars
would
come
to
the
council
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year.
22
annual
budget
request,
the
transit
route
account
has
thousand
700.000
available
to
spend
the
council
created
a
transit
holding
account
that
has
1.9
million
dollars.
N
Two
more
items:
d10
is
a
request
to
use
520
000
from
the
tree
removal
mitigation
fund.
This
will
use
most
of
the
funding.
In
that
account
it
will
provide
additional
tree
planting
efforts
in
park,
strips
parks
and
other
city
property
when
a
tree
has
to
be
removed
for
construction
or
development,
and
that
tree
is
on
public
property.
N
And
the
last
item
is
e1:
since
the
anniversary
of
the
march
18th
2020
earthquake
just
passed,
we
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
point
out.
The
city
is
hoping
to
receive
the
next
round
of
fema
funding
for
fix
the
bricks
3.7
million
dollars
to
meet
this
ongoing
community
need
it
would
allow
260
city
residents
to
have
seismic
improvements
to
their
homes,
it's
typically
a
remodel
or
a
roof
replacement,
and
it's
targeted
to
unreinforced
masonry
structures.
B
Awesome,
thank
you,
ben
council
members.
Do
we
have
questions
comments?
Anything
I
don't
see
any
hands,
so
we
have
this
schedule
for
public
comment
on
tuesday
april
6th
and
tentative
council
action
on
tuesday
april
20th.
B
Thank
you,
ben
thanks
for
the
information
and
getting
us
through
that.
We
are
on
agenda
item
number
eight,
which
is
our
citizens
compensation
advisory
committee
report.
So
I'm
looking
around
my
zoom
cam,
I
mean
my
camera.
My
computer,
I
we
have
david
salazar
here
believe
deb
may
be
here.
Yep
deb's
here
david
is
with
the
company.
Is
our
compensation
program
manager,
deb
alexander,
our
hr
director,
eleanor
jackson,
classification
and
compensation
analyst
and
then
several
ccac
members,
including
jeff
worthington,
who
is
the
ccac
chair?
E
E
Report
we
actually
have
two
reports
to
deliver
to
you
today
and
I
know
that
time
is
short,
so
we
want
to
be
respectful
of
that.
But
to
start
off
tonight
I
would
actually
like
to
introduce
kim
taylor,
who
is
with
pay
factors
recently
merged
with
another
company,
so
they'll
seem
to
be
pay.
Scale
kim
has
worked
with
us
to
provide
us
with
an
audit
on
our
internal
equity.
E
So
this
is
a
of
course,
a
topic
of
interest
to
all
of
you
to
the
administration
into
the
hr
department
and
the
city
as
a
whole,
so
she's
going
to
first
present
and
then
we'll
follow
that
up
with
the
presentation
by
jeff
worthington,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
citizens,
compensation
advisory
committee
along
with
marlene
sloan,
who
is
part
of
that
committee.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
kim.
F
Thanks
so
much
david
everyone.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today,
as
david
mentioned,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
our
pay
equity
project.
I'm
sharing
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
project
that
we
undertook.
The
purpose
of
this
project
was
to
review
your
internal
pay
rates
that
are
paid
to
the
employees
of
salt
lake
city
to
make
sure
that
there
were
no
discrepancies
that
were
adversely
impacting
a
protected
class,
namely
discrepancies
based
on
gender,
age
or
ethnicity.
F
As
you
can
see
here,
this
wasn't
the
first
time
the
city
has
undergone
a
study
like
this
there's
been
some
ongoing
review
of
employee
pay
historically
and
there's
been
some
high
level
reviews
specifically
looking
for
for
discrepancies,
but
this
was
the
first
in-depth
third
party
objective
audit
that
we
undertook.
F
F
Secondly,
we
did
exclude
a
few
groups
of
employees
from
the
analysis
entirely.
You
can
see
those
listed
here,
but
the
key
exclusions
were
your
union
population.
Any
employees
that
are
subject
to
collective
bargaining
units
have
their
rates
predetermined
by
those
agreements
and
are
not
subject
to
any
level
of
discretion
in
their
individual
salary
rates.
F
We
also
excluded
temporary
or
seasonal
employees
or
employees
that
were
in
jobs
where
there
was
no
variability
in
pay.
So,
for
example,
some
of
your
judges,
some
of
your
ranked
fire
or
police
positions,
as
with
those
union
employees
because
there's
no
variability
in
pay,
there
are
no
discrepancies
to
be
investigated.
F
F
F
It's
sometimes
referred
to
as
a
headline
pay
gap,
because
you'll
hear
this
in
the
news
when
you
read
the
statistics
about
an
employee,
a
female
employee
paid
80
cents
on
the
dollar
compared
to
a
male
cohort,
and
so
it's
good
to
measure,
but
it
doesn't
really
give
you
a
sense
of
how
the
pay
is
is
being
administered
in
your
organization,
like
we
mentioned,
doesn't
account
for
the
level
of
organization,
differences
in
job
responsibility,
organizational
tenure
or
overall
work
experience
so
to
to
to
control
for
those
variables
and
get
a
true
sense
of
the
pay
as
it
exists
in
your
organization.
F
The
regression
analysis
models,
the
relationship
between
those
employee
variables,
level,
performance
tenure
and
pay.
It
also
not
only
measures
the
size
of
the
relationship.
It
doesn't
only
tell
us
the
3.21
gap,
for
example,
but
it
also
tells
you
the
strength
and
the
significance,
but,
most
importantly,
it
allows
us
to
incorporate
multiple
variables
simultaneously,
so
that
we
can
evaluate
the
relationship
between
pay
and
all
of
the
other
employee
characteristics.
At
the
same
time,.
F
After
using
regression
analysis
to
control
for
grade
and
tenure,
we
can
see
from
the
figures
here
that
the
relationship
between
gender
and
pay
has
actually
been
reversed.
If
you
look
at
these
charts
below
the
uncontrolled
gap,
where
we
saw
that
men
in
your
general
employee
population
were
making
321
an
hour
more
than
women
actually
falls
to
negative
1.64
when
you
control
four
factors
like
tenure
grade
levels
within
the
organization,
so
we
can
see
once
we
control
for
those
other
variables
being
male,
is
actually
associated
with
a
dollar
sixty
four
less
an
hour
than
being
female.
F
So
our
first
step
to
make
those
divisions
was
to
consider
organizational
grade
which
we're
using
as
a
proxy
for
equal
experience
and
scope
of
responsibility.
Our
assumption
here
was
that
employees
assigned
to
the
same
grade
within
the
salt
lake
city's
existing
salary
structure
were
probably
fairly
comparable
in
terms
of
scope
of
responsibility
and
job
performed.
F
Once
we
had
those
employee
cohorts,
divided
the
compensation
team
at
salt
lake
city
and
the
team
here
at
pay
factors
passed
notes
back
and
forth.
We
manually
reviewed
the
employee
pay
records
for
every
employee
assigned
to
any
given
cohort
to
identify
potential
inequities
that
we
felt
might
need
additional
reviews.
F
We
presented
these
inequities
to
the
salt
lake
city,
compensation
team
for
further
research
and
the
team.
There
went
back
to
resumes
hiring
histories
line
managers
to
get
additional
detail
on
any
employee
characteristics
that
were
maybe
not
captured
in
the
original
data
set
that
we
were
provided
for.
The
initial
analysis.
F
After
several
iterations
of
this
employee
cohort
analysis,
we
were
able
to
justify
all
the
three
of
the
initial
522
employee
pay,
discrepancies
that
we
flagged
so
just
to
clarify
in
the
first
pass.
We
flagged
522
employees
as
potentially
earning
a
pay
level
that
was
inequitable
compared
to
someone
in
a
similar
role,
but
after
additional
review
and
research
of
those
522
discrepancies,
all
but
three
were
ultimately
explainable,
based
on
some
employee
characteristic
that
we
just
hadn't
been
privy
to
during
the
original
analysis.
F
So
in
all
the
total
cost
of
the
recommended
increases
to
to
solve
those
remaining
three
discrepancies
was
a
total
of
4.44
46
cents
per
hour.
You
can
see
that
that's
split
across
the
general
employee
population
and
the
department
of
airports
as
a
result
of
this
study.
We
did
also
find
four
additional
employees
who
whose
pay
we
flagged
for
for
future
review
and
adjustment,
but
that
was
simply
because
they
were
somewhat
low
in
their
range
competitively
and
was
not
necessarily
a
result
of
an
internal
equity
concern.
B
Council
members,
I
can't
see
you
so
just
speak
up.
If
you
have
questions.
B
Now
I
can
see
you
all.
I
don't
hear
anyone
with
questions
so
kimberly.
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
this
in-depth
analysis
and
look
at
at
how
we're
paying
employees,
I
think
reviewing
522,
new
resumes
and
and
discrepancies
is
pretty
remarkable
and
quite
a
feat.
So
I
appreciate
that
I,
I
guess
my
question
would
be
in
your
opinion
and
in
the
research
that
you
have
done
and
if
this
is
outside
of
the
scope
of
what
you
want
to
comment
on,
I'm
totally.
Okay
with
that.
B
Are
there
policies
that
the
council
or
the
administration
should
be
looking
at
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
continued.
Luckily,
it
seems
like
the
pay
discrepancies
kind
of
weren't,
a
based
necessarily
on
at
least
all
of
them
were
not
based
on
policy,
but
to
ensure
this
content
that
would
continue
to
be
as
equitable
as
possible.
Is
there
anything
that
you
found
through
your
research
that
we
should
maybe
consider
as
a
policy.
F
I
actually
think
that
a
lot
of
what
you're
doing
internally
is
why
this
study
went
so
well
that
you
know
just
for
perspective.
Those
three
discrepancies.
That's
that's
very,
very
good
when
I
do
these
studies
before
it's
not
uncommon
that
we
find
a
lot
more.
That
needs
to
be
resolved
and
I
think
the
reason
that
this
this
one
turned
out
so
well
is
because
of
the
work
that
the
compensation
team
does
internally.
B
Place
that's
good
to
hear
andrew.
J
Yeah,
can
you
put
that
last
slide
into
context
for
us
the
four
dollars
per
hour
discrepancy
if
I
just
annualize
that
eight
thousand
dollars,
but
that
doesn't
what
that's
not
what
that
means.
F
Background
experience
overall,
work
experience
and
what
we
found
were
that
there
were
these
three
employees
who
could
be
exactly
compared
to
someone
else
in
the
organization
who
is
very
similar
to
them
in
terms
of
their
time
with
salt
lake
city,
the
job
that
they
sell.
Currently
their
overall
work
experience,
and
there
was
nothing
else
to
distinguish
those
two
employees
from
each
other,
except
for
some
protected
class
issues.
One
was
male,
one
was
female.
For
example,
one
was
caucasian,
one
was
not
caucasian,
but
there
was
in
addition
to
that
demographic
difference.
F
J
F
G
F
Well,
we
you
do
tend
to
look
at
that
to
see
and
and
the
law
is
pretty
clear-
that
when
you
find
someone
who's
paid
higher
than
everyone
else,
who's
performing
similar
work,
you
can't
bring
that
person
down.
You
have
to
close
the
gap
by
increasing
the
lower
paid
employees.
So
that's
why
the
focus
is
on
bringing
people
up
as
opposed
to
reducing
down
people
who
are
overpaid.
B
Thank
you
again
kimberly
for
joining
us
and
for
presenting
this
and
for
your
work
with
the
city.
I
appreciate
when
andrew's
stunned,
like
that.
No
I'm
just
kidding.
C
Thanks
for
this
time
and
kimberly,
thank
you
so
much.
C
This
is
the
kind
of
work
we
want
to
keep
doing
in
our
meeting
earlier
today
before
the
council
meeting,
we
talked
about
how
kimberly
in
working
with
our
hr
staff
have
equipped
them
with
the
formulas
to
be
able
to
kind
of
keep
this
analysis
churning
to
some
extent
internally,
and
I
won't
just
want
the
council
to
know
it's
my
intention
that
we
continue
to
do
this
on
a
more
regular
basis
and
take
this
deep
dive
of
considering
equity
within
salt
lake
city
corporation
for
our
non-represented
employees.
B
Thank
you.
Madame
with
that
again,
thank
you
kimberly
for
your
time.
I
will
turn
the
time
over,
I
believe,
to
jeff
worthington
for
our
ccac
report.
R
Oh
well,
thank
you
very
much.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay
here
we
go
okay,
good
thumbs
up,
madam
chair
and
council
members.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
our
report
to
you
tonight,
I'll
start
out
by
acknowledging
everybody.
That's
on
our
committee,
because
everybody
had
a
part
in
this
we're
just
the
reporting.
R
There
was
myself
as
chair,
ray
shelble,
as
vice
chair
at
brandon,
dew,
jana,
bake,
jeff,
herring,
marlene,
sloane
who's
here
with
us
tonight
and
mike
terry,
and
I
want
to
give
them
a
big
thank
you
for
their
hard
work
and
also
the
assistance
of
david,
salazar
and
eleanor
jackson.
They
were
big
help
on
this,
so
I
appreciate
their
involvement,
helping
us
to
craft
this
I'll
start
out
by
saying
that
our
report
this
year
is
very
similar
to
last
year
being
as
we
went
through
the
covet
environment,
but
actually
with
better
results.
R
I
think
you'll
you'll
hear
through
the
reports.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do?
I'm
going
to
start
out
covering
the
first
two
sections
of
our
report
and
then
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
marlene
who
will
cover
the
next
two
sections.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
follow
along
section,
one
is
the
impact
of
cova
19
on
salary
budgets
and
historically,
this
committee
is
relied
upon
data
obtained
from
employer
salary
budget
surveys
conducted
by
world
at
work.
R
R
As
you
can
see
through
the
with
the
box,
that's
in
blue
and
white
shows
that
the
three
percent
was
actually
a
solid
number
that
they
were
planning
on
across
the
board.
R
However,
as
the
pandemic
spread
across
the
around
the
world
in
our
nation,
other
surveys,
including
a
pay
factor
salary
budget
survey,
asked
participants
how
they
plan
to
modify
their
salary
increase,
increased
budgets
in
response
to
the
covet
19
pandemic,
and
if
you'll
look
at
the
chart
below
that,
a
majority
56
percent
indicated
that
their
2020
salary
increase
had
already
been
or
would
be
implemented,
as
planned.
R
R
51
percent
expected
to
reduce
their
salary
increases
and
45
plan
to
suspend
salary
increases
altogether
as
an
alternative
to
salary
increases.
The
society
of
human
resource
management
highlights
the
fact
that
gallagher's
report
suggested
variable
pay,
such
as
annual
bonuses,
which
can
save
money
and
serve
as
an
investment
in
future.
Success
and
you'll
see
in
some
of
our
attachments
further
on
that
we
do
have
some
sectors
in
the
city
that
are
above
average,
and
we
feel
very
strongly
that,
rather
than
pay
increases
that
the
bonus
or
lump
sum,
cash
incentive
would
be
highly
effective.
R
R
Moving
on
to
section
number,
two
salt,
lake
city,
recruitment,
turnover
and
labor
statistics
with
the
pandemic,
these
numbers
that
we're
going
to
go
over
here
we're
not
a
surprise
to
anybody.
We
all
knew
that
adjustments
had
to
be
made.
Cuts
had
to
be
made,
but
if
you'll
look
at
the
posted
jobs
for
last
year,
there
were
348
jobs
posted
which
was
a
20
decrease
from
2019,
where
they
posted
434
jobs
and
of
those
they
received.
R
Well,
if
you
look
at
our
our
firefighters
and
our
police
officers,
usually
an
application
is
for
multiple
positions,
and
so
that's
where
that
increase
in
that
number
is
from
a
more
detailed
review
of
the
total
number
of
external
applicants
and
hires
made
by
the
city
for
union.
Covered
position
in
the
past
year
continues
to
demonstrate
the
vast
majority
of
its
job
applicants
and
new
hires
from
the
local
job
market.
R
And
if
we
look
on
page
four
of
your
report,
this
is
our
2020
union
job
recruitment
statistics
and
that
it
was
solely
through
afscme,
which
is
the
public
sector
employees
and,
as
you
can
see,
I'll
try
to
keep
this
short.
But
for
the
jobs
that
were
posted
the
majority.
The
great
majority
of
the
awarded
positions
went
to
local
utah,
which
is
a
good,
a
good
thing
for
our
people.
R
The
trade
and
craft
out
of
2299
external
applicants,
2063
or
90,
were
from
utah
and
out
of
79
higher
78
were
from
utah,
that's
99
clerical
and
an
administrative
support
of
1077
external
applicants,
945
or
88
were
from
utah
and
out
of
the
37
hired
100
percent
were
from
utah
paraprofessionals
of
449
external
applicants,
356
or
79
were
from
utah
out
of
the
five
hires
four,
which
was
eighty
percent
were
from
utah.
R
So
I
think
that's
a
good
indicator
of
hiring
our
local
people
and
keeping
them
employed,
and
I
appreciate
the
efforts
of
the
city
for
doing
that.
Our
police
officers
of
1595,
external
applicants,
189
or
75
percent
were
from
utah
and
that
45
hires,
42
or
93
percent
were
from
utah
and
five
were
rehires
firefighters.
R
You
had
122
external
applicants,
724
were
from
utah
for
65
and
out
of
25
that
were
higher
22
or
88
were
from
utah,
so
on
the
whole
turnover
rates
among
the
city's
workforce
decreased
compared
to
last
year
and
remain
substantially
below
the
past
five
year,
average
overall
involuntary
turnover
rates,
which
are
9.1
percent
and
7.7
respectively,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
chart,
the
overall
turnover
dipped
from
8.4
in
2019
to
7.8
percent
in
2020.
R
R
With
regard
to
swarm
public
safety
employees.
The
committee
noted
the
total
number
of
firefighters
and
police
officers
who
left
city
employment
in
2020
include
14
firefighters,
which
is
approximately
4.3
percent
of
all
firefighters,
including
one
dismissal,
six
resignations,
and
seven
retirements
and
52
police
officers,
which
is
approximately
12.8
percent
of
all
patrol
officers,
including
38,
resignations
and
14
retirements,
and
a
comparative
analysis
of
turnover
among
all
employees.
In
each
city,
department
is
included
in
for
reference
and
appendix
a
of
this
report.
R
So
the
recommendation
of
this
committee
for
section
two
is
considering
the
city's
present
success
in
attracting
larger
applicant
pools
and
low
turnover.
There
is
good
evidence
to
generally
support
and
demonstrate
the
city's
current
human
capital
strategy
strategies
are
successfully
achieving
desirable
results.
R
In
addition,
the
committee
recommends
city
leaders
continue
to
rely
on
a
market-based
pricing
approach,
which
is
the
cost
of
labor
to
determine
appropriate
compensation
levels
for
jobs
and
employees,
and
that
is
my
report
on
the
first
two
sections.
If
there's
any
questions,
I'd
be
more
than
willing
to
try
to
answer
them
for
you.
Otherwise
I'll
turn.
My
time
over
to
you
marlene.
B
Q
I
believe
I
met
many
of
you
last
year,
so
it's
a
pleasure
to
see
you
again
and
I'm
going
to
cover
the
two
sections
that
are
going
to
be
noted.
On
pages
six
and
seven
of
the
report
that
you
have
on
page
six,
it
talks
about
the
city
living
wage,
which
considers
a
model
that
relies
on
geographically
specific
data,
that's
related
to
individuals
or
families
regarding
minimum
necessities
such
as
food
transportation,
health
insurance,
housing
and
other
costs
for
other
basic
necessities.
Q
The
city
is
still
above
the
living
wage
when
it
comes
to
your
full-time,
regular,
full-time
employees,
with
the
lowest
paid
on
being
around
1687
per
hour,
which
is
about
11
higher
than
the
1511.
That's
noted,
as
the
living
wage
for
2021.,
those
that
do
fall
below
the
living
wage
of
1511
include
temporary
employees
such
as
your
golf
division
and
your
groundskeepers.
Q
Thank
you.
The
next
section
section
six
has
to
do
with
the
local
market
pay
comparison.
Q
The
committee
reviews
market
data,
including
base
wages
and
salaries
from
approximately
a
hundred
locally
based
private
and
public
employers
with
operations
along
the
wasatch
front.
The
committee
has
the
same
recommendation
as
last
year:
consider
the
base
compensation
plus
the
econo
economic
value
of
your
public
benefits,
so
that
you
use
100
percent
of
those
two
combined
as
your
baseline
for
a
competitive
number
on
your
wages.
Q
Now
this
could
be
related
to
turnover
with
new
hires,
and
it
would
be
prudent
for
the
council
to
understand
why
some
of
these
positions
may
have
changed
and
just
to
point
out,
there
are
about
six
of
them
and
you've
got
your
union,
which
is
the
air
op
specialist
in
airfield
maintenance
who
moved
from
a
competitive
white
arena
into
a
significant
lagging
of
red.
But
those
are
both
union
positions.
Q
Q
Bonus
pays
and
things
of
that
nature
would
be
something
that
you
might
recommend
if
you
find
that
you
want
to
award
someone
who
is
needing
to
increase
but
not
increasing
their
pay,
and
one
thing
that
we
would
like
to
note
is
last
year
it
was
recommended
that
your
public
safety
employees,
your
firefighters,
your
policemen,
should
continue
to
maintain
comp
and
benefit
level.
That's
actually
at
105
to
120
percent
above
market.
B
Council
members,
I
don't
see
any
hands
or
questions.
I
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
being
here
today
and
the
entire
committee
for
the
work
that
you
do
for
our
employees
and
for
our
city.
I
it's
such
an
important
job
that
you
guys
do,
and
I
know
how
seriously
and
thoroughly
you
do
those
jobs,
and
I
want
to
just
again
thank
you
for
all
of
your
time
and
that
you
put
into
this
into
making
sure
that
we
are.
B
We
are
being
both
fair
and
competitive
and
doing
the
best
that
we
can
for
our
city
workers,
and
so
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
for
being
with
us,
and
please
extend
my
thanks
to
the
rest
of
the
committee
as
well.
B
B
You
know
it's
been
a
long
work
session
and
a
long
day
today,
but
we
are
on
agenda
item
number
nine,
which
is
our
cdbg
and
other
federal
grants
plan
for
fiscal
year
2021-2022
I
have
been
lucky
from
the
council
office,
lonnie
eggerson
got
from
hand
and
the
rest
of
her
hand,
staff
and
then
blake
thomas,
is
also
here
from
as
the
can
director.
So
I
will
turn
it
over
to
ben.
N
N
As
typically
happens.
The
requested
funding
from
applicants
exceeds
the
available
grant
funds.
There
is
one
exception
this
year,
the
home
grant
funding
is
slightly
less
than
the
available
funding,
so
all
of
the
home
applicants
the
amount
of
funding
they're
requesting,
even
if
you
give
everything
they're
asking
for
there's
still
a
little
bit
left
some
quick
reminders.
N
N
N
So
if
the
council
wants
to
add
funding
to
an
application
in
public
services,
it
requires
you
to
shift
funding
away
from
another
application,
also
in
the
public
services
category
and
I'm
available
over
the
coming
weeks.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
if
you
want
to
explore
ideas
about
how
to
shift
funding
between
applications,
the
applications
must
advance
one
of
the
five
goals
in
the
2020
2024
consolidated
plan.
N
N
N
Three
of
those
ten
differences
are
greater
than
ten
thousand
dollars.
The
table
showing
these
differences
is
on
page
two
of
the
staff
report.
There
are
13
new
applications
which
are
marked
new
in
the
previous
grant
awards.
This
is
the
middle
column.
On
the
funding
log,
two
applications
were
disqualified
and
you
can
quickly
see
which
ones
they
are
because
it's
in
red
text
on
the
far
right
column
of
the
funding
log.
N
N
E
Okay,
thank
you
ben
thank
you,
council,
chair
and
council
members
for
the
opportunity
to
review
the
mayor's
funding
recommendations
for
the
city's
annual
hud
entitlement
grant
programs
for
the
coming
fiscal
year,
21
20
21
to
2022
it's
fun,
seeing
everyone
flip
through
what
looks
like
they're
11
by
17,
printouts
glad
that
we
can
have
a
good
site
on
it.
I
just
wanted
without
being
too
redundant
to
ben's
introduction.
E
The
pandemic
also
exacerbated
the
ongoing
need
for
community
funding
for
homelessness
services.
We
always
have
a
need
for
homelessness
funding.
In
salt
lake
city
and
always
welcome
federal
state
and
other
funding
sources
to
help
us
shoulder
this
state
and
regional
responsibility,
so
that
being
said,
with
your
approval,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
tony
milner,
who
has
a
brief
presentation
prepared
to
outline
the
proposed
use
of
the
6.7
million
dollars
for
a
head
entitlement
grant
program
thanks.
S
Great
thanks,
blake
and,
of
course
thank
you,
council,
chair
and
council
members,
I'm
sure
you're
starting
to
get
sick
of
seeing
me,
but
unfortunately,
it's
that
time
of
year,
where
we
review
these
funds
again
huge
appreciation
to
council
staff
ben
for
summarizing
the
mayor's
recommendations
and
his
analysis
in
his
staff
report
that
everyone
is
flipping
through
at
the
moment
when
council
chair,
with
your
permission,
I
would
like
to
just
take
like
five
minutes
just
to
kind
of
paint
the
big
picture
for
these
funds.
If
that's
okay,.
S
Okay,
so
this
coming
year,
21
22
actually
marks
the
46th
year
for
salt
lake
city
as
a
hud
entitlement
city,
and
we
greatly
value
and
uphold
the
impact
that
these
funds
have
in
our
city
year
after
year.
S
I'd
also
like
to
recognize
the
amazing
hand,
staff
for
all
their
detailed
administration
of
these
federal
grants.
Staying
up
on
compliance
all
the
changes,
assisting
the
boards,
all
the
tracking,
the
reporting,
the
monitoring,
as
well
as
assisting
community
partners
with
technical
assistance.
S
We
did
provide
council
staff
a
graph
as
a
summary
of
the
con
plan
if
that
could
be
brought
up
or
be
shared
excellent
thanks
bobby
so
again,
I
just
want
to
underscore
ben
already
mentioned:
advice
underscore
that
these
funds
are
these
funds
recommended
in
front
of
you
are
associated
to
the
city's
five-year
consolidated
plan
for
2020
2024..
S
S
So
the
con
plan
is
the
product
of
an
intensive
collaborative
process
to
identify
community
development
needs
and
establish
goals,
priorities
and
strategies
to
address
those
needs.
The
five-year
plan
provides
a
framework
for
maximizing
and
leveraging
the
city's
block,
grant
allocations
to
build
healthy
and
sustainable
communities
and
to
help
focus
the
use
of
these
funds.
Good
news
ben
kind
of
mentioned.
This
direct
recommendations
that
we
do
are
need
to
advance
their
goals.
S
The
goals
that
you
see
there
all
the
recommendations
in
front
of
you
for
year,
two
actually
do
advance
the
five
consolidated
plan,
goals,
which
is
great,
which
is
what
we
just
want
to
see
after
every
year.
We
do
officially
report
to
hud
whether
or
not
we're
meeting
our
stated
goals
or
not.
This
report
is
made
available
to
the
mayor,
the
council
and
the
public,
a
quick
snapshot
for
how
we're
doing
for
this
first
year.
S
Most
organizations
that
the
city
did
fund
in
the
current
year
were
affected
by
covid
delays
and
temporary
disruptions,
but
all
have
been
able
to
conduct
their
programs
their
services
and
are
on
target
to
meet
their
spend
downs
and
outcomes
for
the
year,
which
is
great
thanks.
Probably
you
can
take
down
the
graphic.
S
S
Also,
we
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
provide
you
additional
information
about
these
recommendations
and
additional
council
briefings
that
are
scheduled
so
overall.
Please
know
that
this
process
of
reviewing
and
recommending
the
applications
for
the
city's
annual
hud
funding
is
just
as
difficult
for
us
as
it
is
for
the
boards,
the
mayor
and
I'm
sure
yourselves.
B
One,
so
it
is
8
30
and
feel
like
it's
been
a
long
day,
so
I
want
to
spend
a
few
minutes
if
somebody
has
already
looked
through
their
packet
and
has
just
a
very
specific
question
on
something
right
now,
I'm
not
we're
not
going
to
go
page
by
page
or
line
by
line
at
this
point.
B
If
there
is
something
that
caught
your
eye-
and
you
have
a
question,
I
would
love
for
you
to
be
able
to
ask
administration
and
or
them
there,
then,
what
I
propose
we
do
is
all
of
you
take
your
the
time.
You
need
to
go
through
this
and
get
small
group
meetings
and
or
emails
or
questions
answered
about
this
meet
with
ben,
and
we
can
do
this
sort
of.
B
In
my
opinion,
everybody
needs
a
minute
to
digest.
All
of
this.
That's
why?
If
there's
a
specific
question
that
you
have
right
now,
that
would
help
you
continue
to
digest
this,
and
then
we
will
come
back
on
april
6th
with
a
little
bit
more,
since
we've
done
the
overview,
we
can
spend
some
time
going
through
some
of
these
questions
and
maybe
if
people
want
to
reallocate
or
have
ideas
to
reallocate
or
want
to
make
that
a
little
bit
more
of
that
open,
open
conversation.
B
But
I
think
that
it
is
all
up
to
us
to
to
look
through
this
and
ask
the
questions
that
we
have,
and
I
don't
think
that
right
now
we
need
to
do
this
line
by
line
when
there
might
be
it's
late.
It
feels
late
if
it's
been
a
long
day
and
there
might
be
just
some
things
that
people
like,
I
said,
need
to
digest
a
little
bit.
So
that's
how
we're
gonna
play
this.
We're
gonna
spend
a
little
bit
of
time,
seeing
if
there's
specific
questions
and
go
andrew.
J
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
just
have
a
the
obvious
one
comes
from
the
staff
report
and
the
discrepancies
between
the
board
and
the
mayor.
Cdbg
housing
assist
emergency
home
repair
and
accessibility
community
design,
it's
the
biggest
change
in
the
packet
it
seems
like.
Is
there
some
background
information,
perhaps
from
the
mayor's
office
or
han.
S
S
It
was
basically
the
cdcip
board
who
does
the
recommendations
are
only
able
to
do
it
up
to
the
total
asks
for
all
of
those
in
housing
and
neighborhood
improvement,
leaving
the
remainder
funds
for
the
mayor
to
direct
those
funds
as
well.
A
lot
of
those
projects
are
kind
of
at
their
max
they're,
not
really
scalable.
They
can't
really
go
any
further,
so
we
went
to
han
staff
reached
out
to
assist
because
of
the
top
applicant
and
basically
just
said
what
is
the
capacity?
What
is
the
need?
S
They
were
very
happy
to
hear
that
they've
actually
seen
a
huge
increase
for
doing
the
small
repairs
for
seniors
disabled,
so
they
can
stay
and
remain
in
their
home,
and
so
that's
why
remaining
funds
were
given
to
or
recommended.
I
should
say
towards
the
assist.
J
So
the
four
full
275
is
just
remaining
funds
that
we've
out
recommended
allocating
in
there.
Yes,
yes
thanks.
B
Does
actually,
I
will
I'll
come
back
I'll,
do
that
on
my
own?
Go
ahead,
anna
had
her
hand
up,
and
then
chris.
D
I
had
a
question
on
the
geraldine
king
resource
center
and
I
see
that
they
have
doubled
applied
for
I
guess
for
for
funding,
but
one
of
them
one
is
for.
D
What
I
don't
don't
understand
is
they
didn't
apply
for
the
same
thing
like
they
did
apply
for
funding
twice,
but
not
for
the
same
projects
right
not
not
for
the
same
use
of
funds
right
and
and
then,
if
that's
the
case
like
we're
like
we're,
not
like,
there's
no
recommendation
to
fund
like
the
one
that
didn't
get
funded.
D
What's
going
on
with
the
with
the
with
the
with
the
king
resource
center.
S
Sure,
no,
that's
that's
a
very
good
question:
council
councilmember
valdamoros,
so
you
can
see
too
from
the
different
recommendations:
the
cdcip
board
and
the
housing
trust
fund
advisory
board.
They
really
were
through
this.
They
really
kind
of
let
their
scores
kind
of
speak,
and
so
they
usually
go
down
from
their
highest
scoring
until
they're
out
of
funds.
S
B
G
I
just
wanted
to
see
I
remember
last
year
I
think
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
journey
of
hope
application
and
I
noticed
that
they
scored
pretty
low
again,
and
I
think-
and
maybe
this
was
something
that
couldn't
have
happened
with
kovitz.
But
I
remember
the
discussion
being
that
we
were
going
to
try
and
work
with
that
applicant
to
try
and
strengthen
their
applicant
for
this
coming
round.
And
I'm
wondering
if,
if
there's
just
any
kind
of
anecdotal
insight
as
to
what
happened
and
why
they're
still
scored
pretty
low.
S
Sure
yeah,
no
good
question
and
good
memory
councilman
mano.
So
what
we
did
is
they
weren't
funded
last
year
we
did
take
council's
recommendation
to
have
and
staff
reach
out
and
do
technical
assistance
with
that
organization.
We
set
up
the
time
to
meet
with
them.
It
was
their
executive
director,
a
couple
of
board
members
and,
I
think,
even
a
couple
of
key
stakeholders.
S
We
had
a
good
conversation
about
how
best
to
write
for
a
grant
for
the
city
for
this
funding
for
cdbg,
even
though
cdbg
public
services
is
still
pretty
competitive,
so
it
was
a
really
good
conversation
that
really
kind
of
talked
about
all
the
amazing
work
that
this
organization
does,
but
then
to
really
kind
of
hone
that
down
to
a
very
specific
program
that
is
benefiting
salt
lake
city
residents
and
then
how
they
collaborate
with
other
partners
in
the
community
et
cetera.
S
So
the
main
thing
was
just
really
just
kind
of
honing
it
down
when
they
received
the
application.
The
application
is
valid.
We
put
it
forward
to
the
cdcip
board.
Their
comments
were
to
the
effect
of
it
was
a
very
broad
application,
and
so
that's
a
very
quick
summary
of
kind
of
feedback
from
about
that
particular
application.
B
I
have
a
brief
question
for
administration
in
the
mayor,
as
I
was
going
through
this
the
other
day
I
kind
of
made
a
note
of
like
could
ara
funds
be
used
here,
and
then
we
could
use
that
money
somewhere
else
to
fund
something
that
maybe
ara
funds
couldn't
be
used
for,
and
I
know
we
don't
have
really
a
lot
of
time
in
this
process
to
kind
of
do
that,
especially
when
we
don't
have
guidelines
out
from
the
department
of
treasury
yet
for
those
ara
funds
but-
and
I
I
assume
I
already
know
the
question
the
answer
to
this
question-
but
can
hand-
and
madam
mayor,
are
you
kind
of
using
at
least
for
part
of
it,
this
process
or
these
applications
to
help
inform
how
we
spend
some
of
that
ara
money.
C
Yeah
there's
been
several
processes.
You
know
that
we've
all
we've
gone
through
in
the
different
tranches
of
money
that
have
come
through
and
different
applications
that
have
come
up
that
either
fit
the
cares,
act
dollars
or
didn't,
or
I
think
in
a
lot
of
cases
where
agencies
didn't
have
the
capacity
to
do
more,
which
tony's
referred
to
even
in
this
batch
of
applications.
So
the
flu,
the
flex.
C
What
we
do
know
about
the
ara
dollars
is
that
they're
far
more
flexible
than
dollars,
we've
had
in
the
past
and
there's
the
timeline
flexibility
out
to
2024
that
we
didn't
have
before.
C
So
I,
this
is
a
far
more
dynamic
pool
of
money
and
will,
of
course,
be
anxious
to
see
what
the
treasury
stipulations
are
on
those
dollars.
But
we
feel,
I
think,
very
generally,
like
there
is
a
great
deal
more
opportunity
to
not
just
supplement
the
programs
that
the
community
organizations
are
currently
doing
but
help
them
be
able
to
address
in
new
ways
with
new
programming,
perhaps
even
with
the
staffing
support
that
they
need
to
do
it.
B
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
That's
sort
of
what
I
was
hoping
is
that
some
of
these
programs-
I
I'm
looking
at
that-
maybe
didn't
get
funding,
there's
still
a
shimmer
of
hope
that
they'll
be
there
to
help
our
communities
and
we
know
the
good
work
they're
doing
and
there
might
be
some
more
some
other
ways
that
we
can
support
them,
and
so
it
was
a
silver
lining,
a
little
bit
of
a
silver
lining
there
and
looking
at
these
applications.
So
I
appreciate
that
with
that
council
members
at
first.
B
I
want
to
thank
canon
hand
again
and
madame
mayer
for
being
here
and
I'm
just
gonna,
say:
y'all
have
two
weeks
two
weeks
to
go
through
this.
Ask
your
questions.
B
Have
your
small
group
meetings
go
through
what
you
need
to
go
through
to
really
digest
this,
so
that
we
can
have
a
meaningful
conversation
in
two
weeks
about
about
this,
and
that's
also
when
our
public
hearing
is,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
council
staff
is
probably
like
wait,
it's
not
on
the
work
session
agenda
for
two
weeks.
It
is
now
if
it
wasn't
so
get
go
through.
B
Do
your
due
diligence
on
these
things
and
let's
come
back
and
hand
out
as
much
money
as
we
can
later
this
month,
okay
or
in
april,
it's
been
a
long
day,
as
I've
said
several
times,
but
everybody's
done
a
lot
of
good
work,
and
I
think
there
were
some
really
tough
conversations
that
needed
to
happen,
and
that
came
back
with
some
really
positive
things.
I
think
so.
Thank
you
all
for
hanging
in
there
and
having
these
conversations
and
and
doing
this
work
cindy
we're
not
done
yet.
B
H
H
Salt
lake
county
has
indicated
that
they
would
be
able
to
do
ranked
choice,
voting,
and
so
the
recorder's
office
has
really
done
a
lot
of
good
work
on
this,
and
they
will
be
coming
back
to
you
with
a
briefing
in
april
and
then
you'll
have
time
to
to
discuss
it
and
decide.
They
also
have
just
today
provided
the
cost
estimates
and
they
have
three
estimates.
One
is
for
just
the
regular
election.
H
The
other
is
ranked
choice,
voting
with
a
primary,
and
the
final
is
ranked
choice,
voting
without
a
primary
in
the
the
so
you'll
be
receiving
that
information,
and
then
the
thing
that
we
need
council
members
to
be
thinking
about
from
a
policy
point
of
view
is
whether
you
feel
like
there
is
adequate
time
to
do
a
solid
public
education
plan
program
for
the
ranked
choice
voting
when
we
started
this.
H
B
Thank
you
cindy
and
just
a
quick
perspective
about
that.
Education
piece
is
that
there
was
a
big
education
piece
when
we
moved
to
melon
voting,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
feel
that
we're
fully
educating
our
our
communities
about
this
about
rate
choice
voting
if
that
for
the
council,
goes,
I'm
sort
of
that
just
to
keep
that
in
mind
andrew.
J
H
And
the
costs
I
saw
them
quickly
this
evening.
They
did
not
look
outrageous
to
me.
It
wasn't
dramatic
the
difference
between
the
two
approaches
so
and
we'll
we'll
email
that
out
to
you
as
soon
as
we're
finished
here
tonight
and
then
it'll
be
part
of
your
packet
as
well.
So
so
I
think
cost
wouldn't
be
your
biggest
factor.
I
think
it
would
be
the
you
know,
public
policy,
weighing
of
of
how
you
feel
like
that'll
work
for
your
constituents
and
the
timing.
B
All
right,
one
of
the
reasons
I
love
our
staff,
everyone.
I
think
that
is
all
we
have
for
tonight's
council
meeting.
Thank
you
all
and
we
are
adjourned
dunzo's.