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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Formal Meeting - 09/20/2022
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A
A
A
Welcome
to
this
formal
meeting
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
Council
before
we
get
started.
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
comment
on
any
of
the
public
comment,
issues
that
are
scheduled
for
tonight,
please
fill
out
the
appropriate
card
and
make
sure
so
we
have
different
color
cards
for
different
subjects
that
you
want
to
speak
on
and
then,
if
you
want
to
speak
just
during
the
general
comment
period,
we
have
a
card
for
that
as
well.
A
If
you
have
a
card
that
you
filled
out,
please
give
it
to
a
member
of
our
city
council
staff,
so
Jen
there
in
the
green
who's
raising
her
hand
is
one
of
our
staff
members,
okay
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
A
We
are
really
happy
to
have
all
of
you
joining
us
here
today,
whether
you
are
joining
us
in
person
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Thank
you
for
your
patience
as
we
continue
tracking
coveted
cases
and
trying
to
make
the
best
decision
decisions
to
keep
people
safe.
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A
If
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person
you're,
we
encourage
you
to
wear
a
mask
during
the
meeting,
although
you're
not
required
to
at
all
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masks
are
available
outside
our
meeting
door.
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like
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have
staff,
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mask,
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can
raise
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and
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will
bring
that
to
you
if
you're
here,
to
give
public
comment,
feel
free
to
remove
your
mask
once
you're
called
to
address
the
council
at
the
podium.
So
you'll
come
up
here
to
this
Podium
with
the
with
the
plastic
case
around
it.
A
To
start
with
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
So,
if
you
will
all
join
me,.
A
If
you
would
like
to
give
a
comment
today,
we
will
be
accepting
comments
in
person
online
via
WebEx,
via
telephone,
sorry
and
finally,
via
telephone
for
those
who
wish
to
call
in
before
we
begin
moving
through
our
agenda.
I
want
to
mention
a
few
additional
rules.
The
council
has
always
set
guidelines
in
order
to
ensure
that
our
meetings
are
orderly,
civil
and
efficient.
The
guidelines
help
everyone
feel
comfortable
and
safe
to
share
their
thoughts
without
fear
or
intimidation.
A
To
achieve
this,
our
rules
of
decorum
take
effect.
The
moment
that
you
arrive.
We
respect
all
points
of
view
and
welcome.
New
insights,
please
be
respectful,
while
sharing
your
comments
avoid
yelling
using
profanity,
making
racial
slurs
or
obscene
or
defamatory
remarks.
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you
violate
the
rules,
we
will
mute
your
line
or
ask
you
to
stop
if
you
feel
the
need
to
use
such
language
in
order
to
express
your
opinion,
you
may
do
so
by
calling
our
24
hour
comment
line.
Additionally,
our
staff
will
request
your
name
during
the
WebEx
registration
process
to
limit
disruption.
A
Your
name
cannot
include
a
message
or
violate
our
rules
of
decorum.
If
your
name
doesn't
decline
or
doesn't
comply,
excuse
me
our
Cloud
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will
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you
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those
joining
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Please
watch
your
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case
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reach
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you.
Isaac
from
our
staff
will
moderate
the
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and
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you
with
any
questions
about
your
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is
handling
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tasks
tonight.
So
please
limit
messages
to
technical
issues
and
minimal
informational
updates.
A
You
can
also
send
in
your
comments,
if
you
run
out
of
time
tonight
or
if
you
wish,
to
submit
your
comments
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way
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mailing
them
to
PO
Box
145476,
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah
84114-5476
or
you
can
email
us
at
Council
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com
or
you
can
call
our
Council
office
phone
number
at
801-535-7654.
A
So
we
are
now
to
the
public
hearings
portion
of
the
agenda.
Taylor
Hill
Hill
from
our
staff
will
be
calling
names
of
those
who
wish
to
comment.
We'll
call
the
names
of
the
people
on
WebEx
and
in
person
based
on
your
order
of
registration.
A
Once
we
receive
excuse
me
once
we
open
the
public
comment
period,
Taylor
will
announce
three
names
at
a
time,
so
people
have
some
notice
and
be
prepared
to
speak
when
it's
your
turn
to
speak.
Taylor
will
announce
your
name
if
you're
on
WebEx,
your
name,
will
your
line
will
unmute,
and
you
may
begin
speaking
if
you're
here
in
person,
as
I
said
before,
please
step
up
to
the
podium
once
Taylor
announces
your
name
to
begin,
please
state
your
name
and
the
two
minute
timer
will
start
at
the
two
minute.
A
Mark
staff
will
announce
time
if
you're
unable
to
finish
your
comment,
please
send
the
rest
via
email,
mail
or
call
our
office.
Our
the
contact
information
is
the
same
as
what
I
just
gave
you.
If
you
no
longer
wish
to
speak,
please
either
message
our
staff
or
when
staff
calls
your
name.
Let
us
know
that
you're
just
here
to
listen.
A
B
Thank
you
Mr
chair.
This
is
a
proposal
to
vacate
a
t-shaped
alley
between
1300
South
and
Harrison
Avenue,
and
between
Green
Street
and
700
East.
The
alley
was
incorporated
into
a
budding
property
sometime
after
homes
between
the
alleys,
East,
Side
and
700.
East
were
demolished
for
udot's
expansion
of
700
East
in
the
1960s.
Thank.
C
A
Thank
you
we'll
start
with
our
first
public
comment.
Is
anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
B1,
the
Green
Street
alley
vacation.
A
And
I'm
not
seeing
anybody,
that's
here
to
speak
to
this
item
in
person,
so
I
will
look
for
a
motion.
Mr.
F
A
G
A
Okay,
we
are
now
at
item
number
B2,
which
is
an
ordinance
rezoning
and
making
master
plan
amendments
at
16,
South
800
West.
Before
we
begin
taking
comments,
I'll
turn
the
time
back
to
Brian
again
to
give
us
a
short
introduction.
B
Thank
you.
This
is
a
proposal
to
amend
the
zoning
map
for
the
parcel
of
16
South
800
West
adjacent
to
the
Folsom
Trail
in
city
council,
District
2
from
TSA
UNT,
which
is
transit
station
area,
Urban
neighborhood
transition
to
TSA,
UNC
or
transit
station
area,
Urban
neighborhood
core
to
potentially
construct
a
mixed-use
building
on
the
site.
Additionally,
the
proposal
would
amend
the
North
Temple
Boulevard
plan
to
list
the
subject
property
as
for
rather
than
its
current
transition
designation.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Brian.
Is
there
anybody
here
to
speak
to
this
item.
D
C
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Nigel
swaby
and
I
spoke
on
this
item
when
it
was
in
front
of
Planning
Commission
for
your
information,
there
was
no
opposition
from
the
Fair
Park
Community
Council
to
this
and
I'm
speaking
personally,
but
I
wanted
to
add
that
in
I
think
that
this
is
a
a
great
addition
to
the
neighborhood.
It's
an
underutilized
piece
of
property
that
is,
between
the
Folsom,
Trail
and
railroad
tracks.
C
Right
now,
there
were
plans
for
it
in
the
past
that
didn't
go
through
because
of
slow
development
of
the
Folsom
Trail
and
I'm
excited
to
see
that
that
tag
development
wanted
to
do
something
with
this
and
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
plans
that
they
have
once
this
rezone
is
approved.
C
This
will
give
them
more
flexibility
in
the
design
that
will
hopefully
allow
them
to
better
incorporate
this
building
with
the
ground
level
of
the
Folsom
Trail
next
to
it
so
I'm,
very
supportive
of
it,
and
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
plans
are
for
this
to
get
more
housing
and
to
get
some
retail
in
the
area.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
A
Yes,
Pedro
eschler,
yes
and
I'm
Es
as
well.
That
is
unanimous.
We
will
move
to
item
B3,
which
is
an
ordinance
amending
the
budget
or
excuse
me
budget
number
two
for
fiscal
year
2022
to
2023.
Before
we
begin
taking
comments.
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
Sam
Owen
from
the
council
staff
to
give
a
short
introduction.
H
I
I
They
often
have
less
than
one
cart,
so
the
airlines
are
not
able
to
provide
enough
wheelchairs
to
cover
for
that,
because
the
wheelchairs
are
being
used
to
substitute
for
the
lack
of
carts,
so
I'm
saying
the
airport
should
prioritize
carts,
some
way
to
get
Mobility
challenge,
people
to
be
able
to
handle
it.
The
city
and
Airport
should
demand
more
respect
for
the
many
that
complain
about,
and
you
know
that
they're
complaining
left
and
right
about
it,
but
they're
often
unable
to
walk
to
non-delta
Airlines
and
that's
a
problem.
I
So
the
solution
is
to
redo
the
contract,
increase
the
priority
and
budget
amendment
2
and
provide
enough
carts
and
appropriate
drivers
to
meet
the
required
Ada
Federal
Transportation
requirements.
It
reminds
you
this
city
and
Airport
does
not
meet
the
Ada
Bill
of
Rights
for
airports,
so
688
million
and
they're
still
ignoring
that.
J
I
didn't
come
here
tonight
to
speak
to
this
issue,
but
George
raises
a
good
point,
because
when
I've
been
at
the
airport,
I'm
80
years,
81
years
old
and
when
I'm
at
the
airport
and
I
face
that
challenge
to
go
to
the
airport
early
on
after
surgery
and
when
I
was
marginally
able
to
make
the
walk,
I
used
the
wheelchair.
It
was
a
good
option
rather
than
being
old
and
slow
and
take
me
forever
to
get
there.
J
I
used
the
wheelchair
and,
if
there's
limited,
wheelchairs,
available
and
I'm,
taking
that
wheelchair
away
from
somebody
that
actually
needs
it.
That's
not
how
we
should
function
here
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
if
it's
something
this
Council
can
do
to
make
sure
that
that
either
make
sure
that
carts
are
mandatory.
Somebody
provides
the
carts
or
there's
wheelchairs
available
for
the
people
that
are
marginally
because
of
the
situation
it's
causing
problems,
especially
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair.
Thank
you.
E
A
I
have
a
motion
that
from
council
member
Petra
ashler
and
a
second
from
council
member
Dugan,
all
in
favor.
A
Local,
oh
whoops,
yes,
I
am
going
to
roll
call
it
all
in
favor,
councilmember
Valley,
yes,
Council,
Harbor,
Boy,
Yes
Dugan,
yes,
mono;
yes,
yes,
Petro,
ashler,
yes
and
I'm,
yes,
as
well
that
passes
unanimously.
We
are
now
on
to
budget
or
excuse
me
item
B4,
which
is
budget.
Amendment
number
three
for
the
fiscal
year.
2022
2023
before
we
take
public
comment
on
this
item.
A
L
A
Thank
you,
Ben.
Are
there
any
comments
for
Budget
amendment
number
three.
D
I
But
this
city
keeps
ignoring
the
significant
negative
impact
near
shelters
and
100.
Low-Income
facilities
like
Palmer
court
and
even
the
Housing
Authority,
had
issues
with
senior
housing
at
their
low-income,
affordable
facilities.
Ask
Cindy
so
again,
all
of
the
money
that
this
city
is
providing
for
low-income
housing
would
provide
many
many
more
housing
units
for
low-income
housing.
I
If
the
city
used,
the
funding
for
inclusionary,
zoning
had
offered
reduced
or
elimination
of
impact
fees
appreciated
if
the
1.6
million
from
UDOT
goes
towards
increasing
City
street
conditions
to
good
instead
of
fair,
which
really
in
reality
is
bad
condition
and
the
renters
protection
analyst
should
be
at
court
to
stop
printers
from
being
evicted
into
homelessness.
Thanks
for
listening.
E
A
G
A
Eschler,
yes
and
I'm,
yes
as
well,
that
is
unanimous.
We
will
move
to
item
B5,
which
is
the
growing
SLC
implementation
plan
Amendment
before
we
take
comments
on
this
I'll
turn
the
time
to
over,
to
Allison
Roland
from
the
council
staff
to
give
a
short
introduction.
G
F
Budget
amendment
number
just
the
part
that
is,
for
the
housing
six.
G
A
So
back
to
B5,
no,
no
problem.
Thanks
for
clarifying
the
growing
SLC
implementation
plan,
Amendment
Allison
Roland.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
This
is
regarding
the
ordinance
to
amend
growing
Salt
Lake,
the
grown
Salt
Lake
City
implementation
plan
in
2022.
The
state
began
to
require
that
an
implementation
plan
be
added
to
the
city's
annual
moderate
income
housing
plan.
This
implementation
plan
must
be
adopted
by
the
council
by
October
1st.
The
Department
of
community
and
neighborhoods
has
developed
this
new
implementation
plan,
which
will
be
a
supplement
to
the
city's
moderate
income
housing
plan,
which
in
turn
is
part
of
growing
Salt,
Lake
City,
which
is
the
city's
existing
five-year
housing
plan.
F
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
comment
on
item
B5.
D
M
At
the
time.
I
first
heard
about
the
proposal
for
moderate
housing,
moderate
income
housing.
All
three
of
these
strategies
were
stalled
as
a
result
of
public
opposition.
Now
two
of
them
are
moving
forward
very
rapidly
without
additional
opportunity
for
public
comment.
As
you
just
heard,
the
deadline
for
the
application
to
the
state
is
October.
1St
I
see
four
problems.
With
this
sleight
of
hand,
no
one
is
talking
about
what
should
be
the
first
step,
fixing
the
completely
dysfunctional
housing
loss
mitigation,
ordinance
we're
going
to
continue
to
allow
the
demolition
of
existing
housing.
M
This
ordinance
has
not
worked
in
25
years.
Secondly,
the
market
has
changed
immensely
since
the
council
tabled
these
proposals
related
to
housing.
The
density
bonus
in
the
rmf-30
modifications
wouldn't
have
worked
two
years
ago
and
it
certainly
not
going
to
work
now
with
the
accelerating
value
of
land.
Then
last
July,
July
of
2021
rather
I,
noticed
that
the
definitions
for
housing
and
the
zoning
ordinance
are
a
mess.
For
example,
I
have
two
units
by
definition
they
are
time
shares
in
vacation
areas.
None
of
my
rentals
qualify
as
units.
No
one
is
dealing
with
adaptive.
M
I
Okay,
I'm
against
the
plan,
obviously,
since
it
ignores
opening
the
west
side
for
more
housing,
which
will
it
stores,
which
is
really
important
to
low
income
and
and
present
residents
of
the
West
Side
this
plan,
without
that
grooves
the
west
side,
again,
HP
Port
62
item
a
does
rezone
for
housing,
but
Salt
Lake
City
is
ignoring
the
tens
of
thousands
of
potential
Acres.
Why
and
Transit
corridors
are
not
permanent
with
buses.
Look
at
your
work
pack
at
which
had
bad
data
on
two
bus
routes.
I
Reduced
parking
is
hypocritical,
since
more
parking
is
needed
at
bus
stops
to
increase
ridership
unless
parking
discriminates
against
elderly
and
studies
show,
it
discourages
Transit
use.
Electric
Fields
Vehicles
need
off-street
parking,
but
only
if
you
care
about
reducing
air
pollution
residents
do
not
want
less
parking.
Minimums
developers
are
begging
for
more
land
which
is
available
on
the
west
side,
which
has
lots
of
low-cost
housing
there
and
encouraging
Apartments
is
encouraging
making
people
poor
14
times
more
poorer,
and
only
four
comments
are
shown
in
your
work
packet,
which
shows
a
really
bad
public
Outreach
on
this.
I
What
you're
planning
on
doing
looks
like
you're,
encouraging
redeveloping
high-cost
land
areas
instead
of
the
west
side
west
of
I-215
neck
reached
400.
Excuse
me
four
thousand
dollars
a
month
homes
that's
not
affordable,
except
on
Mars.
The
stationary
plans
need
to
recognize
the
importance
of
Public
Safety,
which
is
ignored
in
this
city
and
allowing
multi-family
resident.
A
G
A
We
are
now
at
what
maybe
one
what
the
main
event
I
don't
know
from
from
the
looks
of
it
items
B6
and
B7,
which
are
both
regarding
the
other
side
Village.
They
will
be
heard
as
one
item
they'll
be
heard
as
one
item
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
oh
first
before
we
open
the
public
comment.
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
Allison
Roland
and
Brian
Fulmer.
Who
will
give
a
short
introduction
to
the
two
components
of
this
item.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
I'll
provide
the
introduction.
Okay,
as
you
said,
this
is
two
part
public
hearing
both
are
together.
Excuse
me
for
the
public
benefits,
analysis
and
Lease.
The
council
is
considering
whether
to
lease
portions
of
the
properties
at
1850,
West,
Indiana,
Indiana
Avenue
in
1965,
West,
500
South
for
40
years
at
one
dollar
per
year
to
the
other
side,
Academy
or
Tulsa
Tulsa
agrees
to
pay
for
all
costs,
to
remediate
the
site
and
for
the
development
and
operation
of
The
Other,
Side
village
pilot
project.
B
A
A
For
both
okay,
great
thanks
Taylor,
let's
start
with
our
first
public
comment.
K
Good
evening,
I
am
speaking
tonight
as
the
co-chair
of
the
Poplar
Grove
neighborhood
alliance.
Our
mission
is
to
further
is
to
nurture
genuine
Civic
engagement
through
Community
organizing
I've
served
as
a
former
chair
of
the
popular
Grove
Community
Council
and
I've
lived
and
worked
in
the
neighborhood
for
the
past
30
years
professionally.
I
work
to
support
the
needs
of
students,
experience
to
homelessness
in
the
Salt
Lake
City
School
District
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
rezoning
request
of
The
Other
Side
village.
K
As
a
resident
of
this
community
I
recognize
the
need
for
multiple
approaches
to
reduce
the
number
of
individuals
and
families
in
our
community
experiencing
homelessness.
Some
will
thrive
in
permanent
Supportive
Housing
projects
like
Palmer
court
and
sunrise
Metro.
Others
do
better
and
less
concentrated
situations
where
they
have
a
voucher
are
able
to
use
it
in
a
qualified
project
or
complex
that
meets
their
needs.
But
as
the
proliferation
of
urban
camping
continues,
we
as
a
community
need
to
look
for
other
alternatives.
K
The
proposed
Village
will
not
meet
the
needs
of
all
those
choosing
to
camp,
but
for
some
this
could
be
the
opportunity
they
have
waited
for
to
live
a
sober
Life
as
a
residential
community
that
is
supportive,
safe
and
provides
a
sense
of
belonging.
The
build
is
also
proposing
some
public-facing
Enterprises,
like
a
bodega
possible
Barbershop
Community
Gathering
spaces.
Ultimately,
a
performing
arts
space
and
much
much
more
I
recognize
that
the
west
side
has
been
the
landing
place
for
marginalized
communities,
and
this
is
no
different.
K
I
have
seen
the
good
work
that
the
other
side
Village
has
done.
I
know
that
the
best
predictor
of
future
behavior
is
past
Behavior.
If
the
past
behavior
of
The,
Other,
Side,
village-
and
there
are
multiple
Endeavors-
are
indication
of
their
potential
success
than
I
am
all
in
I
strongly
encourage
you
to
vote
in
support
of
the
zoning
change
for
the
entire
project
and
recognize
the
public
benefit.
K
N
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
yes,
okay,
so
I
live
about
four
blocks
from
the
location
where
the
other
side
Village
will
be
and
when
the
location
was
announced.
I
was
opposed
to
it,
as
was
a
number
of
my
neighbors
for
for
various
reasons,
and
the
that
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
about
tonight.
Why
people
in
our
neighborhood
and
I
live
in
Glendale
right
off
of
Indiana
would
be
opposed
to
it.
N
People
from
The,
Other,
Side
village
reached
out
to
us
when
we
made
comments
on
Facebook
and
the
opposition
that
I
have
has
since
dissipated
and
I
now
support
the
project
and,
and
one
of
the
compelling
reasons
why
I
was
able
to
be
confident
in
my
support,
was
looking
at
their
track
record
with
the
program
they
have,
which
is
called
The
Other
Side
Academy
office,
700
East
in
Salt
Lake
City
that
serves
as
a
training
program
for
the
Tribune
says
for
convicted
criminals
and
people
with
substance
use
disorders,
and
so
their
record
speaks
for
their
set
for
itself.
N
Any
of
the
concerns
or
fears
that
we
might
have
or
me
and
my
neighbors
had
that
I've
talked
to
on
the
west
side.
They
we
don't
see
those
happening
with
their
program
on
the
east
side.
So
that's
why
we
can
throw
our
support
behind
this
program,
because
we
think
it'll
it'll
do
good
in
terms
of
addressing
the
homelessness
issue
in
our
city
and
I
would
ask
the
city
council
to
also
support
The,
Other,
Side
village.
Thank
you.
O
Hopefully
that
was
saying
that
Wesley
Sanka
talked
yes,
I've
lived
on
the
west
side,
we
had
the
city
Rancho
Motel
on
the
West
Side
Rancho
lanes
and
we've
always
loved
the
West
Side
I've,
seen
what
these
people
have
done
on
the
7th
East
and
First
South
I
drive
by
that
area
very
often
and
as
I'm
amazed.
The
efforts
that
have
been
put
in
and
how
they've
turned
people
who
were
not
productive
into
people
that
are
productive,
so
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
program.
O
I
think
it's
a
great
step
trying
to
get
trying
to
help
our
people
that
are
kind
of
lost
right.
Now.
The
the
street
people,
it's
very
positive,
I,
think
it
gives
them
self-confidence
and
they
look
out
after
each
other
too,
so
that
they'd
abide
by
the
laws
and
the
things
that
they
should
do
so
I
would
request
support
of
the
council
to
these
individuals.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
so
my
name
is
Daniel
and
I'm.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
the
LV
Carter
trust
regarding
the
proposed
Other
Side
village
project
LV
Carter's
family
owns
property
at
1802
to
1818
Indiana
Avenue,
collectively
the
Carters
09
Parcels,
comprising
about
four
acres
with
approximately
650
linear
feet
of
shared
property,
with
the
lines
of
the
property
shared
with
the
other
side.
Village
project.
L
First
we'd
like
to
state
that
conceptually
we're
in
favor
of
the
project
and
hope
to
interact
with
the
city
and
Developers
in
a
positive
manner
that
will
be
proactive
and
protect
the
Carter's
assets
while
offering
the
project
the
best
chance
of
success.
Our
primary
concerns
at
this
point
in
time
are
one
traffic.
L
Regarding
site
design,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
adjacent
uses
remain
compatible
regarding
security,
given
the
scale
of
the
project,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
property
boundaries
are
respected
and
that
public
Frontage
areas
for
property,
starting
the
project,
are
kept
clean
and
not
become
an
area
of
loitering.
Regarding
buffering,
we
believe
it's
important
to
create
a
sensible
and
aesthetically
acceptable
buffer
between
uses
utilities.
It's
important
to
note
that
projects
can
over
tax
utilities,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
properties
and
development
can
operate
within
industry
standards,
unfair,
targeted
development
burdens.
C
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Nigel
swaby
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
the
Fair
Park
Community
Council,
the
Fair
Park
Community
Council
executive
board,
is
pleased
to
support
the
result
request
necessary
to
build
The,
Other,
Side,
village,
community
and
social
Enterprises.
Though
we
support
this
project,
we
would
Again
State
Our
concern
about
the
concentration
of
deeply
affordable,
low-income
and
homeless
overflow
housing
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake.
We
do
see
the
value
of
the
other
side
Villages
project
and
consider
it
to
be
different
than
the
other
housing
projects
we've
seen
to
date.
C
C
Our
city
could
use
more
providers
like
The
Other,
Side
village,
to
build
community,
take
pride
in
their
work
and
are
accountable
for
their
actions
and
those
their
residents.
The
homeless
and
crime
situation
in
Salt,
Lake
City
is
at
the
highest
levels
in
history.
It's
urgent.
The
city's
leadership
takes
concrete
steps
to
reduce
both.
P
We
are
now
at
a
crisis
stage
in
our
city
and
in
my
community
a
homeless
problem
has
grown
and
I
have
seen
little
or
no
support
from
Salt
Lake
City
in
Greek,
in
bringing
that
Homeless
Problem
into
line.
Two
years
ago,
I
had
25
units
with
homeless
people
living
in
them
across
the
street.
From
my
house,
when
I
called
the
police
department
to
ask
them
for
assistance
in
getting
the
homeless
moved
to
a
different
location,
I
was
told
someone
at
City,
Hall
told
them
not
to
enforce.
P
P
P
Is
there
a
law
in
this
city
that
says
we
are
to
obey
the
parking
regulations
or
not
I,
firmly
believe
that
there
is
a
law
and
I
was
originally
hoping
that
the
village
would
be
an
answer
to
some
of
the
problems
I'm
seeing
in
my
city
there.
If
they
don't
take
the
motorhomes
off
the
street,
it
does
not.
L
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Turner
bit
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
the
Glendale
neighborhood
Council
I'm
here
tonight
to
speak
in
support
of
The
Other
Side
village
I've
had
an
opportunity
over
the
last
year
to
get
to
know
the
folks
from
the
village
and
the
other
side
Academy
and
as
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
have
expressed
tonight,
homelessness
and
and
our
unsheltered
neighbors
living
in
parks
and
public
spaces
are
counting
on
us
to
advocate
for
them
and
to
advocate
for
Housing,
Solutions
and
I.
L
Think
it's
important
tonight
to
speak
in
support
of
not
only
an
Innovative
housing
solution,
but
also
much
needed.
Economic
development
on
the
West
Side
Glendale
is
undergoing
a
pretty
rapid
transformation
right
now.
The
number
of
housing
units
proposed
on
Redwood
Road
will
significantly
increase.
Our
population
increase
the
number
of
people
living
on
the
west
side
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
opportunity
to
have
a
bodega
and
the
other
opportunities.
Commercial
opportunities
proposed
as
part
of
the
village
are
I.
L
Think
one
of
the
most
essential
and
defining
parts
of
the
village
I'd
encourage
you
tonight
to
not
only
or
in
the
future.
When
you
vote
to
not
only
approve
the
project
in
concept,
but
to
make
a
commitment
to
making
sure
that
it
succeeds,
that's
something
that
myself
and
other
members
of
the
neighborhood
are
committed
to
later
this
month.
L
As
part
of
the
CIP
process,
we'll
be
submitting
a
CIP
proposal
to
fund
a
Transit
study
to
make
sure
that
Transit
moving
east
and
west
on
Indiana
that
there
could
potentially
be
a
Transit
Hub
that
connects
the
nine
line,
buses,
pedestrians
and
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
to
the
commercial
opportunities
that
will
be
at
the
village
and
to
connect
connect
the
new
residents
that
will
be
living
on
the
west
side
of
Redwood
Road.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight
and
I,
encourage
you
to
support
the
village
thanks.
C
Our
Housing
Programs
range
from
Independent
Living
to
supervised
housing
and
are
primarily
focused
on
helping
individuals
reach
their
goals
to
recover
recovery.
In
order
for
our
clients
to
thrive,
they
need
stable
housing.
A
safe
and
comfortable
home
environment
and
Community
is
especially
important
for
those
struggling
with
mental
illness
trauma
and
chronic
health
conditions.
C
K
Good
evening,
I'm
here
to
remind
us
all
that
we
are
our
Brother's
Keeper,
it
is
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
our
family
members
unsheltered
are
safe,
healthy
and
have
a
place
to
heal.
We
have
the
opportunity
right
now
to
make
that
change
to
make
that
choice.
I'm
asking
you
to
support
this
Village.
This
is
the
first
step
in
the
right
direction.
If
there's
anybody
that
I
would
ever
support,
it
would
be
the
other
side
Village
it's
imperative
that
people
have
a
place
to
call
home.
K
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Amy
stocks,
I
work
in
homeless
services
and
I
am
the
minority
opinion
in
the
room.
I
believe
we're
not
here
to
consider
whether
the
other
side,
Academy
is
doing
a
fantastic
job.
I
agree,
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job.
I
think
we're
talking
about
two
separate
issues:
we're
talking
about
a
treatment
center
and
homelessness,
I
work
in
the
homeless
community
and
visited
the
other
side
Academy
and
was
told
that
they
do
not
accept
people
with
disabilities.
They
do
not
accept
people
with
any
medication,
including
antidepressants
I.
Q
Don't
I
believe
that
this
is
going
to
be
different
at
The,
Other,
Side,
village,
but
I
would
ask
what
experience
do
they
have
at
this
point?
Working
with
those
folks
with
disabilities
on
medication,
The
Other,
Side
Academy
doesn't
follow
best
practices
that
many
other
service
providers
do
like
trauma-informed
care
I,
don't
believe
that
they
have
the
experience
like
other
service
providers
who
have
been
around
our
community
for
decades.
Q
They
claim
to
have
research
on
the
efficacy
of
their
program
which
I
went
to
the
website
and
when
I
clicked
click.
Here
it
took
me
to
their
donate
page.
I
have
not
seen
any
research
on
the
efficacy
of
this
program
and
would
love
to
The
Other
Side
Academy
also
will
prioritize
those
who
seek
housing
and
I'd
like
to
know
more
clarification
on
that
prioritize
or
require,
because
the
homeless
community
that
we're
talking
about
that
we
see
on
the
street.
Many
of
them
aren't
ready
to
get
sober.
Q
So
will
they
be
back
on
the
street
and
this
will
again
be
City
council's
problem,
so
Council
I
would
ask
you
to
consider
a
few
things.
Why
hasn't
tosa
worked
with
very
many
homeless
service
providers
that
are
Staples
in
this
community?
Why
aren't
they
here
in
support
and
are
we
just
funding
a
treatment
center
which
I
don't
think
that
the
city
should
subsidize?
Thank
you.
O
O
Thanks
to
the
Other
Side
village
and
the
good
people,
they've
helped
me
get
into
transitional
housing
over
at
Valley,
behavioral,
all
good
people.
They
work
incredible
amount
of
hours,
I
mean
Sam
Sam,
put
in
85
hours
long
weeks.
This
is
the
kind
of
work
ethic
the
people
are
putting
forth
to
get
this
thing
going.
The
village
is
a
good
thing.
O
It's
it's
something.
That's
needed!
It's
granted,
the
village
isn't
for
everybody,
there's
a
strict
vetting
process
to
get
in
there.
You
know
it's
for
homeless
veterans,
recovering
drug
addicts,
chronically
homeless
people
with
mental
health
problems.
Like
myself,
you
know
to
me:
it's
it'll,
be
nice
living
in
a
tiny
home
great,
but
that's
only
part
of
the
picture.
People
see
they.
O
They
don't
see
the
help
that
piece
of
people
like
such
as
myself
and
Jack
and
Tanya
and
Scott
another
the
original
villagers
have
or
have
received
in
order
to
help
us
better
Our
Lives,
you
know
it's.
The
the
Tiny
Village
is
just
part
of
the
big
picture,
but
the
whole
the
program
as
a
whole
is
just
all
encompassing.
E
Thank
you
appreciate
the
work
that
the
council
has
done
to
consider
this
and
I
want
to
address
a
couple
of
items.
We
don't
claim
to
be
have
the
clinical
credentials
and
that's
why
we're
working
closely
with
those
who
do
to
be
part
of
the
solution
we
do
feel
like
we
have
a
model
that
brings
brings
about
whole
person
change
through
the
non-clinical
case
management
that
we
have
with
the
village
coaches.
We
understand
how
to
help
people
over
bring
about
their
capacities
and
apply
them
in
meaningful
and
productive
ways.
E
We
feel
like
we
have
an
understanding
of
how
to
employ
social
Enterprises
that
give
opportunities
to
those
who
want
to
live
a
productive
life,
and
so
we
feel
like
that.
The
other
side
Village
can
bring
that
to
pass
in
a
unique
and
new
model,
and
that's
part
of
why
we're
doing
this
as
a
pilot
base
to
show
can
it
work
can
can
we
we
bring
something
new
to
the
service
providers
and
if
it
works,
then
we
can
expand.
If
it
doesn't,
then
we
haven't
expanded
it
too.
E
Big
for
that
we
have
tried
to
be
very
intentional
about
engaging
the
community
and
many
of
our
changes
that
we've
made
have
been
because
of
community
feedback
and
we've
so
appreciated
the
engagement
of
the
community.
You'll
notice.
We've
intentionally
asked
a
number
of
the
people
who
are
supporting
not
to
come
up
and
comment,
so
we
don't
keep
you
all
here
till
midnight,
but
you
can
see.
E
D
G
O
Yeah
I'm
kind
of
gonna
throw
cold
water
on
this
parade
too
I
mean
I
I've
seen
so
many
exercises
in
government
or
subsidized
assistance
fall
on
their
face
and
wind
up
costing
the
taxpayers.
O
Abundant
amount
of
money
and
the
people
I
see
on
the
street
are
really
not
the
ones
that
are
going
to
go
into
a
tiny
home
all
of
a
sudden,
be
recuperated
and
go
get
a
job
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
recidivism
rate
is.
How
many
people
that
go
into
here
are
mentally
or
physically
handicapped?
How
many
of
them
have
skills?
How
many
drug
addicts
how
many
have
worked
last
year?
What's
how
many
have
criminal
records
and
like
I
say
who
subsidizes
this?
O
In
the
end,
this
tiny
home
thing
I
mean
I
know
there
were
times
in
my
life.
I
would
have
given
my
eye
teeth
to
have
a
tiny
home
and
I
was
working
and
I
was
providing
and
not
being
a
a
burden
on
society.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
I
was
a
productive,
paying
taxes
and
stuff.
Why
can't
they
just
build
a
an
institution
like
with
a
lot
of
beds
that
caught
I?
O
Don't
see
why
they
have
to
have
tiny
homes
in
a
residential,
Village
and
everything
I
mean
the
people
I
see
on
the
street
that
are
muttering
to
themselves.
They
don't
care,
they
don't
want
to
improve
themselves,
they're
content
being
homeless,
they
like
being
homeless.
They
like
the
no
no
restrictions,
no
bounds,
no
nothing
anyway.
I
am
Dead
Set
against
this
right
now,
unless
somebody
convinced
me
different.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
G
L
Academy
and
I
asked
them
if
I
could
come
and
see
what
they
were
doing
and
see
what
they're
all
about.
They
immediately
invited
me
and
took
me
on
a
tour.
It's
important
to
know
that
I
walked
through
all
68
of
my
classrooms
each
week.
This
means
that
I'm
in
over
a
dozen
classrooms
every
day.
My
experience
as
an
instructional
leader
has
made
me
an
expert
in
evaluating
the
climate
of
a
classroom.
Is
it
positive?
Is
it
uplifting?
Is
it
negative?
Is
it
punitive
within
five
minutes?
L
I
can
tell
I
have
to
say
that
when
I
toured
The,
Other,
Side,
Academy
and
I've
done
so
several
times
since
that
first
time,
I
immediately
picked
up
on
the
extraordinarily
Positive
Vibes.
These
were
people
who
were
making
things
happen,
changing
their
lives
that
combined
with
their
demonstrable
effectiveness
of
their
program.
It
makes
me
completely
comfortable
with
sharing
our
future
up
and
coming
neighborhood
with
this
fantastic
organization.
Thanks.
D
O
O
So
the
issue
I
have
is
with
a
homeless
neighborhood,
basically
being
there
is
the
increase
of
homeless
people,
drugs,
alcohol,
mentally
ill?
We
already
have
that
issue
right
over
here
on
17
South
California,
Avenue,
Redwood,
Road,
900
West.
We
have
needles.
We
have
all
this
drug
paraphernalia
violence,
different
things
all
the
time,
so
my
fear
and
concern
is
this:
is
going
to
increase
more
drug
activity,
more
violence,
all
this
unnecessary
stuff,
especially
near
the
school.
We
have
kids
that
walk
to
and
from
school
who.
O
Having
that
opportunity
to
help
the
homeless
is
a
great
thing,
I,
just
don't
I,
don't
think
this
is
the
right
place
to
put
it,
and
then
you
know
we
see
all
the
all
the
issues
that
are
going
on
like
previously
had
been
spoken.
You
know
who
is
able
to
participate
in
the
program
and,
if
we're
not
helping
the
homeless
that
are
on
drugs
and
the
most
violent
people,
all
that
we're
doing
is
increasing
unnecessary
problem.
H
Good
evening,
Soren
Simonson,
it's
good
to
be
with
you
this
evening.
You
know
me
as
an
architect
a
city
planner
and
the
director
of
the
Jordan
River
commission
tonight.
I
just
want
to
talk
to
you
as
friends.
I
would
like
to
urge
you
to
support
this
project.
I
had
the
great
pleasure
of
working
alongside
the
other
side,
Academy
as
they
were
developing
their
campus
just
east
of
downtown,
and
it
was
remarkable.
It
transformed
me
to
watch
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
to
transform
lives.
Theirs
was
not
a
New
Concept.
H
They've
been
studying
closely
the
Community
First
Village
in
my
hometown
in
Austin
Texas,
and
what
they're
proposing
Builds
on
that,
and
it
combines
Innovation
from
the
program
that
they're
familiar
with
already
plus
Innovation.
That's
happening
around
Community
First
Village
into
a
really
really
remarkable
program.
There
are
two
things
that
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
do.
H
First
of
all,
don't
stop
with
zoning
this
property
rezone
all
of
Redwood
Road,
to
create
the
community
gathering,
places
and
nodes
that
have
been
in
the
master
plan
for
the
west
side
for
almost
a
decade
now,
with
very
little
movement,
make
all
of
Redwood
Road
a
form-based
Zone
and
create
the
kind
of
community
character
that
that
district
is
creating
in
other
communities.
Already
in
Sugarhouse
in
the
central
ninth,
we
need
all
of
the
West
Side
nodes
to
be
zoned
exactly
the
same
way
as
what's
being
proposed
by
The
Other
Side
village.
H
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention.
It's
been
almost
a
year
in
about
two
weeks
or
a
week
since
the
Planning
Commission
forwarded
a
really
enthusiastic
recommendation
for
this
project,
we're
in
a
housing
crisis,
I
work
and
interact
with
those
around
the
Jordan
River
on
almost
a
daily
basis.
I,
don't
need
to
tell
many
of
you
because
your
communities
suffer
from
the
housing
crisis.
Let's
get
this
done
quickly
and
act
like
we're
in
a
crisis
and
bring
solutions
that
are
at
the
heart
of
innovation
to
the
community.
Thank
you
so
much.
H
K
K
Are
there
more
planned
and
where
I'm
concerned
also
about
transportation
to
and
from
work
and
school,
for
these
families
and
individuals
and
kind
of
back
to
the
effectiveness?
I
am
kind
of
concerned
about
the
drug
issue.
My
daughter's
been
on
the
streets
before
and
she's
mental
ill
mental
illness
and
a
drug
addict
how's
that
you
know
and
what
are
the
rules
for
them
to
be
in
the
this
Halcyon
program
or
tiny
houses?
K
R
As
I
was
doing,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time,
but
to
build
this
place
here
in
Glenda
in
Glendale,
I've
been
in
Glendale
for
30
years,
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember,
hardly
an
apartment,
you
used
I,
don't
know
the
name
of
it
right
on
right
on
17..
They
had
this
program
that
they
brought
refugees
from
Africa
a
couple
years
ago,
many
years
ago,
probably
20
or
30
years
ago.
So
they
brought
him
in
with
no
assistance.
R
R
Here
we
are
doing
another
program,
we're
we're
helping
out
these
people
I'm
all
for
it,
but
what's
the
value
if
it
doesn't
work
out,
so
the
apartment,
complex,
Heartland,
the
guy
owner,
sold
it
to
another
owner,
because
the
people
say
they're
trashed
it
now
we're
going
to
do
this
program
in
Glendale
on
my
neighborhood.
You
know
these
people
sleep
right
across
the
street
from
us.
So
are
we
going
to
put
this
program?
If
it
doesn't
work,
then
what
happened?
Then?
R
That's
my
two
sets
I
I
love
to
help
these
people
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I
live
in
here.
I
got
all
these
people
support,
but
I
live
in
this
neighborhood
I
deal
with
these
people
every
day.
So
there's
they're
two
different
things
here.
Until
you
live
in
my
neighborhood,
then
you
figure
out
finally
realize
what
I'm
talking
about
I'm
passionate
about
it.
This
is
my
neighborhood
and
they
still
live
in
my
neighbor
when
she
built
this
I
guarantee
you
these
people
living
in
the
park
where
they
live
they're
not
going
to
go
there.
R
They
want
to
be
free
to
do
whatever
they
want.
Maybe
you'll
solve
it,
but
my
my
other
thing
is
to
it.
How
do
I
involve
Glendale
people
in
my
neighborhood
to
be
part
of
this?
Can
have
people
be
a
security
help
out
construction
on
this
thing
be
part
of
it.
I
told
this
to
the
before
and
empower
the
people
of
Glendale
to
have
these
people
be
part
of
it.
L
All
right,
hi,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time.
I
am
100
in
support
of
helping
the
homeless
coming
from
a
family
that
has
struggled
with
drug
addiction,
homelessness,
mental
illness,
I'm
100
in
favor
of
it.
The
other
side
of
it
is
the
fact
that
I'm
also
raising
fourth
children
in
that
neighborhood.
They
have
dealt
with
crime,
drug
problem,
prostitution,
all
along
1700,
South
I
personally
took
my
children
to
the
neighborhood
cleanups
on
1700
South.
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
to
help
the
homelessness.
L
That's
the
question:
why
do
we
have
to
shoulder
the
the
cost
of
helping
everyone
in
the
city?
So
often
I
live
by
the
fortitude?
Treatment
Center,
the
halfway
house,
people
there
are
also
trying
to
change
their
life.
I've
met
great
people.
There
I
interact
with
them.
I
walk
that
place,
I,
see
them
going
to
work
in
the
morning.
I
see
them
coming
back.
That's
great!
That's
a
right!
In
our
neighborhood
therapy
have
been
a
homeless
shelter
in
third
West
there
that
are
also
great
people.
L
My
question
is:
can
we
also
bring
some
of
the
market
value
developments
that
other
parts
of
the
city
are
getting
similar
to
Sugar
House
similar
to
other
parts?
So
no
one
can
accuse
me
of
not
being
sympathetic
towards
the
homeless
I'm
here
for
I'll
help.
Anyone
that
needs
help,
but
I
just
want
my
children
to
have
the
same
opportunities
as
everyone
else's
children
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
F
The
West
Side
neighborhoods
of
Glendale
and
Poplar
Grove
are
trying
to
embrace
a
Renaissance
wave
off
the
backside
of
kova
19
pandemic.
Investors
are
trying
to
seek
out
the
West
Side
within
the
last
year,
the
strip
center
off
of
Redwood
Road
and
1700
South
reinvested,
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
the
facade
of
its
Center
just
August.
F
24Th
of
this
year,
a
project
was
proposed
by
a
developer,
to
a
Salt
Lake
City
Planning
Commission,
to
have
10
buildings,
58
units,
high
density,
residential,
multi-million
dollar
project
and
was
approved
along
the
Redwood
Road,
only
a
stone's
throw
away
from
the
proposed
Other
Side
village
project
less
than
a
mile
away.
F
In
their
proposal
they
stated
the
West
Side
master
plan
and
said
that
this
new
facility
for
the
high
density
area
is
recognizes
the
need
to
encourage
growth,
Redevelopment
and
investment
in
the
west
side
in
order
to
support
the
vision
of
the
West
Side
Community
as
a
beautiful,
safe,
sustainable
place
for
people
to
live
work
and
have
fun
The
Other
Side
village
does
not
fall
into
any
of
these
categories.
It's
not
beautiful
is
not
safe.
It's
not
sustainable
for
people
to
live.
F
Work
and
have
fun
The,
Other,
Side
village
does
little
to
inspire
more
investors
to
seek
out
the
west
side
as
a
place
to
do
business.
40,
acres
of
great
usable
land
off
the
freeway
and
just
.03
miles
away
from
elementary
school
leased
out
to
The
Other
Side
village
for
one
dollar
for
40
years
is
not
a
safe
or
smart
use
of
the
land.
The
West
Side
needs
more
opportunities
to
solve
the
housing
crisis
by
building
more
housing
and
let
the
supply
and
demand
settle
over
pricing.
F
But
no
investors
will
look
to
the
building
more
Residential
Properties
when
it's
shoved
up
against
a
homeless
shelter.
The
west
side
has
burdened
most
of
the
city's
Dirty
Laundry.
The
prison
was
relocated
to
the
West
Side
The
Volunteers
of
America
detox
center
just
got
approved
from
down
the
street.
We
house
the
fortitude,
Corrections
Center
off
of
9th
South
and
1700
South
and
that
houses
the
halfway
inmates
it's
time
for
the
West
Side
to
have
a
chance
to
thrive
every
place
with.
M
My
support
is
based
on
three
simple
words:
the
concept
works,
I
visited
their
partner
program,
The
Other,
Side,
Academy
I
stood
face
to
face
with
those
currently
enrolled
in
that
life-affirming
and
life-changing
program.
They
told
me
personal
stories
about
where
their
lives
were
before
tosa
and
where
their
lives
are
now
before
they
spoke
of
being
broken
and
lost.
Now
they
have
daily
work
programs,
firm
commitments
to
avoid
drugs,
crime
or
other
anti-social
Behavior
and
the
skills
to
succeed
in
life.
M
Many
I
spoke
with
tried
other
programs
and
failed
because
those
programs
didn't
have
what
tosa
offered.
What
is
the
secret
sauce
that
residents
will
find
at
the
Village
a
caring
connected,
Community,
Personal
accountability,
education,
job
training
and
work
long-term
social
services
and
support
quality,
permanent
housing
structure
and
rules
to
those
who
expressed
concern.
Look
at
toast's
track
record
in
six
years
of
operation.
Tosa
has
not
had
one
dirty
drug
test,
no
acts
of
violence.
The
recidivism
rate
is
only
12
percent.
There
are
great
neighborhood
relationships,
it
is
privately
funded.
M
This
is
a
worthwhile
investment
contrast
this
with
Salt
Lake's,
homeless,
Resource,
Centers
and
shelters,
affordable
housing,
apartments
and
homeless
camps
where
millions
of
dollars
are
being
spent.
Regrettably,
the
greatest
number
of
police
calls
relate
to
those
places.
According
to
the
2021
police
statistics,
this
is
a
better
model.
It
works,
I
urge
your
approval.
Thank
you.
J
Hi
thanks
good
evening
I'm
not
here,
to
support
the
other
Academy.
It's
on
the
other
side.
Academy
I'm
not
here,
to
oppose
it
either
because
it
does
a
great
job.
They
run
a
great
facility,
the
guys
over
there
I
shop
in
their
store,
I've
been
around
I've,
talked
to
them
great
people,
and
they
do
great
things
over
there.
J
They
deal
with
they're,
all
a
bunch
of
great
guys
but
I'd
like
to
have
about
10
of
our
people
from
our
program,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
refer
them
to
them,
and
the
people
that
are
living
in
Tennessee
on
the
street
that
we
deal
with
every
day
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
referral
system
that
I
can
I
have
plenty
of
people
that
I
can
refer
to
them.
That
we've
worked
with
for
a
while
that
have
been
on
intense
and
on
the
street
for
10
years.
J
15
years
have
no
place
to
go
and
have
been
in
another
shelter,
but
I.
Don't
think
the
project
is
going
to
help
the
people
that
I
work
with
every
day.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
there
for
the
long-term
addict,
that's
been
out
of
jail
20
times
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
going
to
been
there
for
the
woman.
J
They
will
not
help
them
live
up
to
their
expectations
and
their
expectations
are
wonderful.
Their
intent
is
great,
but
they
won't
be
able
to
help
those
campers
on
the
street
to
the
degree
that
those
campers
and
those
people
living
on
the
street
need,
and
they
will,
if
you
remember
tonight,
write
it
down
operation,
Rio,
Grande
and
Palmer
court.
All
the
places
that
were
done
with
well-intentioned
that
never
impacted
the
camping
problem.
J
I
will
be
back
here
if
I
live
long
enough
in
five
years
to
remind
you
that
you
had
the
expectations
that
the
other
side
Academy,
helping
the
people
on
the
street
and
leaving
our
camping
problem
and
remind
you,
it
didn't
help
and
if
it
does
help
I'm
here
to
apologize
but
realistic
expectations
backed
up
by
evidence
and
support
and
oversight,
is
the
only
way
we're
going
to
get
the
job
done.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
I
heard
this
transitional
housing
and
I
hope
it
is
Transitional.
I
worked
for
both
VOA
and
the
road
home,
and
some
of
my
clients
at
Palmer
court
and
other
places
have
been
there
for
10
years
nine
years.
Transitional.
C
Folks,
the
homeless,
I,
don't
know
crisis,
there's
very
lack
of
data
online
I,
don't
know
what
to
do
me
and
a
couple
of
friends
are
really
trying
to
be
in
that
area,
but
we
can't
do
anything
unless
we're
out
there
on
our
own
and
to
cover
folks
who
said
some
stuff
over
here.
Please
don't
equate
homelessness
to
criminals.
C
Those
are
two
separate
things.
Okay,
thank
you
and
the
fourth.
One
is
why
I
support
this,
because
it
gives
people
something
to
work
towards
if
they
have
housing
it
gives
them.
Oh,
okay,
now
I
have
a
roof
on
my
head.
Maybe
I
can
go
get
a
job.
C
I
worked
as
I
said:
I
work
with
these
clients
and
they
truly
do
go
out,
try
their
best
when
they
have
when
they
at
least
have
something
that
they
live
in
a
house
or
place.
The
last
idea
I
have
is
when
it
does
launch
I
hope
you
guys
have
people
who
are
trained
to
work
in
this
field
because
VOA
one
of
the
security
guards
they
hired.
C
Today's
the
lady
with
PTSD,
while
she
was
waking
up
and
screaming
for
no
reason
at
the
road
home
they
one
of
the
clients
got
beaten
up
or
one
of
the
clients
beat
up
a
staff
member
and
they
fired
a
staff
member
for
standing
up
for
themselves.
So
they're
never
they're,
not
trained
they're,
not
training,
anyone
over
there.
So
please-
and
in
my
experience,
if
you
do
have
the
funds
to
build,
these
housings
also
have
the
fun
to
fully
train
employees
before
you
start
them.
Thank
you
have
a
great
day.
S
S
If
I
lived
closer
to
this
community
and
I
wish,
there
were
a
37
acre
parcel
of
land
that
was
near
my
neighborhood,
because
that's
exactly
where
we
would
be
trying
to
build,
but
I
if
I
were
living
close
to
this
community
I
would
ask
many
of
the
same
questions,
and
so
I
want
to
make
an
unequivocal
commitment
to
our
potential
neighbors.
S
First
of
all,
I
look
forward
to
five
years
from
now
getting
the
apology
and
and
I
don't
say
that
glibly
I,
don't
say
that
glibly
I
say
that,
because
we're
going
to
try
to
earn
it
we're
going
to
earn
the
trust
and
Trust
shouldn't
be
granted
unequivocally.
We
ask
that
you
look
at
the
track
record
of
The
Other
Side
Academy.
We
came
to
the
east
side.
First,
we
now
have
140
former
felons
living
in
a
concentrated
area
on
the
east
side
and
the
crime
rate
has
dropped.
S
As
a
result,
our
commitment
to
our
potential
neighbors
is
to
do
precisely
the
same:
to
bring
down
the
crime
rate,
to
improve
the
neighborhood,
to
bring
amenities
we'll
have
security
measures
within
our
neighborhood
that
you
can't
have
in
any
of
the
other
neighborhoods
in
Poplar
Grove
or
in
Glendale.
We'll
have
cameras
we'll
have
access.
I
will
have
controlled
access.
Biometric
screening
we'll
have
24-hour
walking
security
patrols.
We
offer
that
on
the
east
side
as
well
in
our
neighborhood,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
crime
rate
has
dropped.
S
There
are
people
that
are
seated
here
that,
on
a
regular
basis,
are
up
late
at
night,
walking
that
neighborhood
to
make
sure
it's
safe,
not
just
on
our
property
but
on
the
property
of
others
as
well.
So
our
unequivocal
commitment
to
our
neighbors
is
we
will
be
the
best
neighbors
you
ever
had
and
we
look
forward
to
welcoming
you
into
our
home
and
into
our
neighborhood
as
well.
Thank
you.
D
T
Hi
I'd
like
to
say
that
there
was
initially
a
there
was
initially
some
acreage
considered
on
the
east
side,
but
a
lot
of
rich
white
folks
said
no
to
that
and
that's
why
they
look
to
the
west
side,
because
that's
the
only
place
left
for
acreage.
That
is
true,
but
there's
also
other
things
that
are
wrong.
With
this.
It
has
been
brought
to
my
attention
that
if
the
city
fail,
if,
if
this
whole
project
fails,
the
city
agrees
to
pay
back
Granny's
investment
in
that
land.
T
So
if
he
spends
millions
of
dollars
creating
something
and
then
it
falls
apart
for
some
reason
we're
on
the
hook.
That
is,
that
is
what
I
learned
recently
I
kind
of
think
that
this
has
already
been
decided
and
that
this
meeting
is
a
lot
of
fluff
and
to
answer
some
questions.
The
difference
between
the
academy
and
the
village
is
folks
coming
to
the
academy
and
getting
help
have
an
incentive
to
do
so.
There.
T
If
we're
taking
a
lot
of
homeless,
this
has
been
kind
of
pitched
as
as,
though,
we're
going
to
pull
people
from
the
streets
who
need
housing
and
there's
probably
a
small
percentage
of
people
that
that
will
help.
However,
the
vast
majority
of
the
problems
that
we
see
around
the
city
will
remain.
It
won't
change
any
of
that.
T
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
taking
comments
today.
I
first
want
to
start
out
by
saying
that
I
hope
that
this
is
successful.
I
agree
with
the
previous
speaker.
I
think
this
is
a
done
deal,
and
so
now
we
need
to
move
forward
on
making
it.
The
best
done
deal
that
we've
been
handed
I
have
serious
concerns
about
the
way
the
other
side.
Academy
has
been
running
their
existing
business.
F
You
know
speakers
who
have
come
to
tell
you
how
wonderful
everything
is
they
they
are
required
to
follow
all
of
the
rules
and
to
do
and
say
what
they're
told
to
do.
They
are
also
required
to
work
for
The
Other
Side
Academy
for
two
full
years
before
they're
reimbursed
for
their
work
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
other
side
Village
never
falls
into
that
model.
I
feel
like
we
can
do
better
than
that.
Everybody
deserves
to
be
paid
a
fair
wage
for
their
work.
F
F
It's
concerning
to
have
people
who
are
forced
to
work,
forced
to
follow
a
program
and
not
given
the
opportunity
to
change
any
of
their
Mental
Health
needs,
but
again,
I
hope
that
this
succeeds
and
I
think
that
we
will
all
have
to
work
together.
For
this
to
succeed,
so
I
urge
you
to
join
Salt,
Lake,
Valley,
Coalition
and
homelessness
and
Implement
best
practices.
Q
Q
It
has
been
devastating
to
see
his
family
grieve,
I
care
about
the
safety
and
well-being
of
my
neighborhood
and,
more
importantly,
the
people
in
it
I
also
think
it
has
already
been
decided,
but
regardless
here
we
are
a
few
months
ago,
I
was
extremely
Against.
The
Other,
Side
village.
It
felt
like
the
city
was
once
again
putting
the
legitimate
needs
of
the
West
Side
aside.
I
still
feel
that
way
in
many
ways,
but
I
realize
that
this
is
a
complicated
and
decades
deep
issue.
Q
I
was
against
The
Other
Side
village,
but
I
have
spent
time
with
their
team.
Over
the
past
few
months,
I
admit
I
agreed
to
attend
simply
because
I
was
looking
for
fault.
However,
I
also
admit,
I
had
been
impressed.
Their
other
side,
Village
appears,
The,
Other,
Side
village
appears
to
be
organized,
thorough
and
confident.
They
promise
a
sober
living
facility.
Q
I
have
brought
my
baby
to
many
of
these
visits
and
I
have
met
some
of
the
first
villagers.
Some
are
here
tonight.
I
have
been
extremely
touched
by
their
excitement.
Their
excitement
and
kindness
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
I
have
wrestled
with
this.
I
have
viewed
supporting
this
or
not
as
a
moral
decision
that
should
not
be
taken
lightly.
There
are
people
on
both
sides
that
I
respect
and
I
admire,
truly
I
have
lost
sleep
over
this
and
I
have
not
come
to
this
conclusion.
Lately,
I
realize
the
other
side.
Q
Village
is
trying
to
offer
a
solution
within
their
means.
I
implore,
the
city
council,
to
make
the
residents
of
West
Side
a
priority
in
safety
and
infrastructure,
I
implore,
the
city
council
to
seriously
crack
down
on
camping
around
our
city
and
Parks
I'm
angry
that
this
is
continuously
overlooked,
and
people
in
our
neighborhood
do
not
feel
heard.
Q
I
am
distressed
that
this
move
forward
as
quickly
as
it
did
I
don't
feel
like
the
rest,
the
West
Side
residents
were
listened
to,
but
if
it
is
going
to
happen,
I
truly
trust
that
the
other
side
Village
is
capable
and
I
pray
that
they
will
stick
to
their
promises
and
I
hope
that
we
can
hold
them
to
that.
I
am
grateful
for
outreach
that
they
have
done
and
I
hope
they
will
continue
to
do
so
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
K
K
I'm
still
not
convinced
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
good
thing
for
my
community
and
I
know:
I
have
people
here
speaking
about
how
there
are
chairs
of
this
and
chairs
of
that
and
lived
in
Poplar
Grove
for
this
long
and
west
side,
but
I
still
don't
feel.
This
is
what
Poplar
Grove
and
the
West
Side
needs
and
I'm
asking
all
of
you:
Fowler
Pui
Dugan,
Wharton,
mono,
thaldemaros
and
Peter
eschler.
These
are
my
children.
These
are
the
future
that
we're
going
to
be
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
this
decision.
K
Okay,
your
decisions,
whether
you
say
yes
today
or
no
tomorrow,
will
impact
my
children.
We
live
on.
Indiana
I
serve
on
the
community
council
I
serve
under
Human
Rights
Commission
for
the
city.
I
am
dedicating
my
time
to
make
sure
that
my
city,
that
I'm
living
in
that
I'm
raising
these
children
in
is
one
that
they
can
walk
down
the
street
right
now.
My
kids
can
all
walk
down
the
streets.
It
is
blocked
with
debris
from
a
trailer.
K
So
if
you
cannot
address
that
issue
for
me,
first
and
foremost,
then
there's
no
way
you
should
give
50
acres
of
my
community
to
an
organization
who
has
never
ran
such
a
an
entity
before
I'm
sure
that
you're
great
I'm
sure
that
you're
wonderful.
But
this
is
my
community
and
these
kids
come
first.
Do
you
understand
they
come
first
and
before
you
get
that
50
acres,
their
needs
will
need
to
be
met.
First.
B
A
B
Chair
I
believe
that
this
motion
addresses
it
gives
more
opportunities
for
the
community
to
comment.
I
I
would
like
to
say
personally
that
that
is.
B
This
is
a
very
hard
decision
for
for
many
of
us,
because
the
concerns
that
my
community
sees
and
that
we
have
raised
over
the
many
months
a
few
months
I've
been
sitting
in
this
chair-
are
real,
so
I
want
to
give
the
another
opportunity
to
my
community
to
to
comment
and
to
raise
their
voices
for
or
against,
is
important
to
to
listen
to
more
of
this
and
I
think
we
can
build
a
better
Community
with
more
input.
Thank
you.
G
A
A
We
will
now
move
on
to
part
C
of
our
agenda,
which
is
potential
action
items.
Item
C1
is
regarding
an
or
a
rezone
at
1330,
South,
700
West.
A
A
N
N
N
N
N
N
A
All
right
welcome
back
those
of
you
that
are
remaining
in
the
back.
Can
you
and
that
don't
have
headphones?
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
okay,
great!
Thank
you
all
right.
We
are
at
section
c
of
our
agenda,
which
is
I
mean
no
we're
not
I'm.
Sorry
we're
on
Section
d,
which
is
questions
to
the
mayor
from
the
city
council
and
for
the
first
time
we
don't
have
someone
here,
but
she
just
left,
but
I
appreciate
them
being
here
anyway.
A
It
was
a
very
long
night
and
I
appreciate
the
mayor
being
with
us
for
most
of
our
work
session
as
well.
I
didn't
have
any
comments
for
the
mayor
or
anybody
else.
Okay,
then
we
will
move
on
to
comments
to
the
city
council.
A
Is
there
anyone
here
or
online
that
would
like
to
give
to
comment
on
an
item
that
was
not
already
heard
this
evening?
D
D
K
Thank
you
so
I
understand.
Most
people
have
left,
but
I
guess
important
people
are
still
here.
My
name
is
Keiko
and
I
live
in
the
Guadalupe
neighborhood
on
the
west
side.
I
stayed
away
from
these
City
Council
meetings
for
a
while.
It's
because
I
realized
whatever
I
say
either
in
the
meetings
or
to
the
city
council
members
personally
doesn't
matter.
I
will
not
make
a
difference.
K
K
So
there
were
some
incidents
with
Somali
gangs,
drug
dealings
and
violence
in
Guadalupe
neighborhood
involving
some
tenants
from
the
high
density,
low-income
apartments.
K
We
are
getting
more
density,
more
population,
more
crime,
more
traffic,
more
homeless
people,
more
Taxation
and
less
sustainability
and
I
support,
The,
Other,
Side,
village,
but
I
hope.
This
it
will
be
successful
if
it
gets
approved
and
finally,
I
just
want
to
express
my
admiration
for
George
Chapman
for
his
tenacity
and
the
strength
and
energy
to
keep
going.
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Charles
Coltrane
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
West
Side
Community
I,
have
been
a
resident
there,
since
in
the
50s
in
the
1970s,
I
bought
a
canoe
and
started
paddling.
The
Jordan
River
I
believe
it
to
be
one
of
the
nation's
great
linear
parks,
with
a
potential
to
have
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
people
enjoying
its
beauty
and
serenity.
P
P
P
Why
are
we
ignoring
it?
Why
are
we
building
linear
grassways
in
the
city
that
require
water
when
I'm
told
I
have
to
stop
watering?
My
lawn
I
would
I'm
curious
at
this,
and
we
do
this.
While
we
ignore
the
most
beautiful
Parkway
in
the
video
essay
that
the
particular
pictorial
essay
of
the
reawaken
beauty,
the
Jordan
River
was
given
its
True
Glory
and
it
is
a
beautiful
place.
We
need
to
protect
it.
Thank
you.
I
Okay,
with
at
least
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
coming
from
the
legislature,
the
buffer
of
the
effects
of
taking
a
shelter
Mill
Creek
is
going
to
put
in
two
additional
police
officers
to
be
deployed
primarily
on
foot
patrol.
So
what
happened
to
this
city?
I
Mill
Creek
will
also
hire
a
contractor
to
pick
up
trash
and
junk,
and
it's
brainstorming
on
how
to
hate
residents
for
items
like
lighting
and
security
cameras.
Again,
what
happened
to
Salt,
Lake
City
shelters
will
be
significantly
increasing
intake
and
police
walk-in
patrols.
Shouldn't
wait
for
a
year,
which
is
essentially
a
laughable
Mighty
pythons,
again
I
mean
come
on,
nod,
nod
wink
wink,
say
no
more
say.
No
more.
We're
going
to
put
police
there
in
a
year
come
on.
This
city
should
not
be
ignoring
prostitution
and
drug
use
and
dealing
around
the
shelters.
I
It
actually
encourages
the
homeless
to
camp
on
the
go
Bond.
The
city
has
ignored
the
west
side
for
years
after
closing
the
West
Side
pools
and
is
now
saying
that
if
the
west
side
doesn't
get
Glendale
park,
it's
a
fault
to
voters.
That's
an
incredible
insult
because
this
city
has
had
a
big
increase
in
spending
in
the
last
year,
but
what
happened
about
prioritizing
Glendale
park
and
Street
conditions
should
be
prioritized
also,
their
condition
should
not
be
acceptable
for
Street
conditions
and
again
what
happened
to
inclusion.
I
Arizona
I
agree
that
the
Jordan
River
needs
more
upkeep
and
the
city
seems
to
be
ignoring
it.
The
bushes
that
are
hiding
criminal
activity
should
be
cut
down.
You
told
us
a
few
years
ago,
cutting
trees
in
Pioneer
Park,
which
we
fought
against,
would
decrease
crime,
but
it
didn't
time
all
I'm
asking.
T
Thank
you.
Sorry,
folks,
I'm
very
sick.
It's
hard
to
do
this.
I
agree.
The
cost
of
parks
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
going
towards
Glendale
park,
I!
Think
it's
it's
a
drop
in
the
bucket
compared
to
what's
been
going
on
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
Poplar
Grove,
Park
I
still
can't
get
irrigation
fixed
there.
It's
still
not
it's
it's
it's
it's
deplorable
and
and
the
river
is
just
horrible
and
it
gets
nine
million
dollars
in
that
Bond.
You
guys
set
up.
T
T
The
last
thing
I
have
about
the
other
side,
Villages
that
they
never
came
to
Poplar
Grove.
They
never
came
to
our
community
council.
They
went
around
us.
They
went
around
to
all
the
other
communities
around
us.
They've
gone
to
lots
of
folks
everywhere
else,
but
they've
never
been.
They
never
came
to
our
neighborhood
to
talk
to
us
about
what
they
wanted
to
do
in
our
neighborhood.
Never
never.
Once
we
are
underserved.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
That's
a
good
point
if
you
have
so
we've
already
taken
public
comment
on
that
issue
from
from
you,
and
so
you
can
either
use
the
rest
of
your
time
to
talk
about
a
different
issue
that
hasn't
been
covered
or
you
can
give
up
the
rest
of
your
time.
T
No,
no
so
back
to
the
parks.
Okay,
still
underserved
still
underserved
can't
get
things
repaired
there
in
timely
manner.
I
keep
getting
promised
about
all
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
to
West
Side
parks
and
all
the
money
keeps
going
to
Pioneer
Park
over
and
over
again
in
less
than
five
or
six
years,
I've
done
it
and
we're
gonna.
Do
it
again
and
I.
It's
just
an
amazing
thing
for
that
to
happen,
it
doesn't
make
any
sense.
T
A
A
E
A
Have
a
motion
from
council
member
Fowler
a
second
from
council
member
Dugan?
Is
there
any
discussion
to
this?
Seeing
none
we'll
go
ahead
and
roll
call
it
council,
member
Fowler?
Yes,
Bowie,
Dugan,
yes,
mono,
yes,
Baltimore,
yes,
Petra
eschler,
yes
and
I'm!
Yes,
as
well!
That
passes
unanimously.
Congratulations
mark.
A
We
are
on
item
f,
which
is
unfinished
business.
A
We
have
item
F1,
which
is
economic
development,
revolving
Loan,
Fund
or
edlf,
or
the
Cava
Cafe
I'll.
Look
for
a
motion.
A
I
have
a
second
from
or
excuse
me.
I
have
a
motion
from
council
member
Pedro
eschler
a
second
from
council
member
valdemoros.
Is
there
any
discussion
to
this
item?
Seeing
none
we'll
go
ahead
and
roll
call
it
council,
member
Fowler?
Yes,
Hui,
yes,
Dugan,
yes,
mono,
yes,
Baltimore
us,
yes,
Peter
ashler,
yes
and
I'm
Es
as
well,
that
passes
unanimously.
Congratulations!
Kava,
Cafe,
we're
on
item
F2,
which
is
a
budget
contingency
for
the
Department
of
sustainability.
I'll,
look
for
a
motion.
E
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
first
one
move.
The
council
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
satisfaction
of
conditions
on
the
125
000
in
the
department
of
sustainability's
budget,
so
that
it
may
be
used
to
conduct
a
proposed
Community
Food
assessment
with
a
following
legislative
attempts.
The
legislative
intents
are
not
conditions
of
the
funds
being
released.
Number
one.
The
department
reports
to
the
Council
on
collaboration
opportunities
with
other
entities
doing
or
charged
with
doing
food
security
or
food
Equity
work
such
as
Utah
State,
University
extension
services
and
number
two.
E
The
department
works
actively
with
those
entities
to
determine
and
Report
whether
future
data
Gathering
analysts,
benchmarking
and
other
outcomes
and
guideposts
of
projects
like
the
Community
Food
assessment
could
could
instead
be
performed
by
entities
other
than
the
city
in
order
to
both
continue
to
build
on
the
foundations
that
the
city
has
established
and
relieved
the
city's
taxpayers
of
funding.
What
is
currently
a
regional,
beneficial
service?
E
A
G
B
B
I
would
like
to
amend
the
motion
based
on
some
of
the
comments
that
we
had
the
discussions
we
had
last
week
and
there
is
an
additional
a
potential
additional
to
that
motion.
A
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
motion
was
made
and
seconded
and
let's
have
a
discussion
so
we'll
strike
I
hereby
strike
your
vote
as.
A
As
chairperson
and
yeah
go
ahead
and
make
your
Amendment
or
substitute
motion,
or
whichever
I.
B
Mean
I
would
like
just
to
add
if
some
language
is
long,
I'm,
not
the
right
person
to
read.
G
G
We're
doing
this
is
a
joint
Amendment
on
this
motion.
So
we
would
add
that,
in
addition
to
the
motion
that
council
member
Dugan
made
we'd
move
that
the
council
expressed
its
intent
to
review
the
findings
of
the
sustainability
department
on
the
potential
for
collaboration
with
other
governmental
entities
prior
to
the
council,
voting
to
fund
additional
food
security,
Staffing
and
projects
in
the
city
general
fund
budget,
with
an
eye
toward
future
Reliance
on
the
levels
of
government
that
are
officially
charged
with
and
funded
to
accomplish,
food
security
and
food
Equity
work.
G
Support
that
is
relevant
and
useful
locally,
as
well
as
Statewide
will
maximize
the
effective
investment
of
federal
state
and
County
tax
dollars
to
directly
enhance
the
ability
of
organizations
to
provide
food
and
services
to
the
public
in
need
of
those
services
will
incorporate
important
local
issues
in
the
established
formal
reporting
to
the
state
legislature
and
that
the
city
taxpayers
receive
maximum
benefit
from
the
federal
state
and
County
taxes
they
pay.
The
council
further
recognizes
that
the
collaboration
will
not
be
successful
before
Salt
Lake
City
taxpayers.
G
G
A
E
A
G
Understand
that
okay,
we
were.
This
is
okay
for
them
to
figure
this
out
with
the
money
that
they
requested
figure
out.
If
there's
a
need
within
the
city,
and
also
there
is,
if,
if
there's
any
other
state
agency
or
other
funding,
that
is
already
working
on
it,
that
they
come
back
with
that
information
and
then
also,
if
and
then
that,
if
there
is
or
not,
then
that
they
still
Lobby
for
things
of
the
such
at
the
legislature,
level
and
the
county
level
correct
one.
G
Okay,
but
when
so,
let's
say
let's
say
the
study
comes
back
and
there
is
a
need-
and
there
are
no
needs
out
there
or
no,
no
groups
that
are
really
doing
the
work
that
these
to
be
done
specifically
to
Salt
Lake
City.
Then
that's
a
question
that
I
have.
Are
we
going
to
discuss
that
in
the
future?
Where,
where
we'll
decide?
Oh,
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
invest
taxpayers.
Okay,
because
to
me,
if
we
wish
to
say
well,
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
G
A
Yeah
Splendid
I
am
a
yes
as
well.
That
is
unanimous.
We
are
now
on
to
the
consent
item
of
our
agenda.
I'll,
look
for
a
motion.
A
Proving
the
consent
agenda
we'll
proceed
to
a
roll
call
vote
council,
member
Fowler,
yes
boy!
Yes,
you
again.