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A
City
and
welcome
to
the
april
12
2022
work
session
meeting.
We
welcome
the
members
of
the
public
who
are
in
person
and
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds.
Online
hybrid
council
meetings
allow
people
to
join
online
through
webex
or
in
person
at
the
city
and
county
building.
We
are
continuing
to
watch
coveted
rates
to
make
the
safest
choice
for
all
of
us.
A
A
As
many
of
you
know,
there
is
no
public
comment
during
the
work
session
and
the
next
opportunity
for
public
comment
will
be
tuesday
april
19th
at
the
7
p.m.
Formal
meeting
we
welcome
you,
your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
share
with
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
at
p.o
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,
84114
or
emailing
us
at
council.comments
at
slcgov.com,
or
calling
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line.
801-535-7654.
B
Thanks,
mr
chair,
we
have
our
normal
slides
for
you
today,
taylor.
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide
please
or
the
first
slide
or
the
second
slide
rachel
I
didn't
receive
those?
Oh
no.
B
B
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
just
get
started,
okay,
great!
So
if
you
can
pull
them
up,
that's
great!
If
not,
then
I
will
talk
through
them,
so
the
cova
data
this
week
is
still
in
a
good
spot.
I
have
a
couple
of
just
snapshots
of
the
county
data
similar
to
how
we
talked
about
it
last
week,
but
we
do
have
better
hospitalization
numbers.
B
Now
that
we're
tracking
by
up-to-date
vaccination
status
as
opposed
to
just
who's,
gotten
two
shots,
and
she
did
confirm
that
as
more
people
get
five
months
and
further
away
from
their
second
shot,
more
people
will
be
falling
into
the
out
of
date
space.
So
that's.
Why
we're
seeing
those
numbers
that
are,
you
know,
percentage
up
to
date
or
closer
to
50
percent?
B
And
unfortunately,
even
you
know
only
about
25
in
some
of
our
zip
codes
on
the
west
side
of
our
city,
so
those
that
that
that's,
hopefully
you
know,
going
to
not
get
too
much
worse
as
we
you
know,
continue
to
get
down
the
road
and
people
continue
to
get
or
to
to
not
catch
on
to
the
booster
availability
as
quickly
as
we
would
hope.
B
So.
Those
zip
codes
are
about
the
same
this
week
as
they
were
last
week,
similar
to
the
map
that
I
had
showed.
So
you
can
envision
it
in
your
mind
or
look
it
up
on
the
county
website.
It's
very
convenient
but
very
similar.
The
50
and
the
you
know
the
25
as
the
lower
zip
codes
on
in
some
of
our
some
of
our
areas,
the
wastewater
data
this
week
I
wanted
to
just
say
a
couple
of
things
about
it.
B
As
we
start
hearing
about
surges
across
the
country,
we've
seen
in
different
places,
philadelphia,
I
think,
is
making
quite
a
bit
of
news
right
now
for
having
to
or
deciding
to
reinstitute
a
mask
requirement
and
that
actually,
that
decision
came
for
them
after
they
had
had
a
50
increase
in
cases
over
10
days.
So
they
are
seeing
a
huge
increase
here
in
utah
we
are
seeing
that
the
ba2
variant
is
now
76.4
of
all
of
our
cases
in
utah,
but
our
cases
are
still
really
low.
B
So
our
wastewater
data
in
statewide
shows
increases
at
six
sites
across
the
state,
central
valley,
south
valley,
tooele
price,
river,
ashley
valley
and
st
george
in
salt
lake
city.
Our
levels
show
that
covet
19
is
very
present,
but
there's
not
a
trend.
It's
a
very
slight
uptick,
there's,
no,
nothing
that
they
would.
They
are
categorizing
as
a
trend
at
this
point.
So
just
for
reference
this
week.
Our
data
shows
that
we
have
31.
B
Let's
see
million
gene
copies,
that's
the
unit,
but
yeah.
That's
the
unit,
I'm
trying
to
remember
exactly
how
that
works,
but
so,
basically
they
measure
the
gene
copies
per
liter
of
water,
like
million
gene,
copies
per
liter
of
water
that
go
through
the
system
and
try
to
normalize
it
so
this
week
our
data
shows
that
we
have
31
mcgs
about
three
weeks
ago
we
were
at
24
mcgs,
so
it's
a
slight
uptick,
nothing
huge
yet
and
those
are
still
really
low.
B
So
for
reference,
the
peaks
that
we've
seen
in
our
wastewater
have
been
as
high
as
4
400
units
per
liter,
so
we're
at
31
now.
So
we
can
still
feel
pretty
good
about
that.
But
you
know
again
that's
the
leading
indicator
that
we'll
be
watching
to
see
if
we
are
gonna
start
tracking,
a
bigger
surge
like
we've
seen
in
some
cities
nationwide.
B
So
I
think
that's
it
for
covent
and
I'm
sorry
about
the
slides.
I'm
not
sure
why
I'm
failing
to
actually
send
they're,
probably
sitting
in
my
out
box
and
I'm
sure
that
weston
and
andrew
can
can
also
just
describe
to
you
all.
Thank.
B
B
E
Based
on
my
realization
last
week
that
the
words
on
the
screen
were
so
small,
I
redid
the
slides
for
this
week,
but
unfortunately
you
won't
see
how
great
they
are,
but
that's,
okay.
I
will
I
will
describe
away
and
it
will
be
wonderful,
of
course,
the
website
that
we
always
post
for
engagement
opportunities,
www.slc.gov
feedback,
where
a
lot
of
these
most
of
these
are
always
posted.
E
The
thriving
in
place
survey
continues
to
be
open
and
the
website
is
live
at
thriving
in
place.
Slc.Org.
You
can
also
navigate
there
from
the
previous
website.
I
mentioned
new
this
week
is
an
engagement
opportunity
with
the
thriving
in
place
team,
an
anti-displacement,
mural,
painting,
event
that
is
being
hosted
by
the
university
of
utah
west
side
studio
and
the
glendale
community
council
is
going
to
take
place
april,
16th
at
three
creeks
confluence
park
from
10
a.m,
to
4
p.m,
and
the
thriving
and
place
team
will
be
there
to
do
some
community
engagement.
E
The
next
one
is
the
slc
street
surface
treatment,
so
we
resurface
streets
all
the
time
and
every
once
in
a
while.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
do
some
restriping
once
those
streets
are
resurfaced,
so
the
transportation
team
has
a
survey
up
that
the
public
can
access
and
provide
some
feedback
on
some
highlighted
projects,
some
already
chosen
resurfaced
or
streets
that
are
going
to
be
resurfaced
that
are
potential
candidates
for
restriping,
for
feedback
from
the
community.
Of
course,
public
feedback
and
master
plans
biking
plans.
E
All
those
things
are
considered
in
the
restriping,
but
the
public
feedback
is
good
too.
I
mentioned
them
last
week.
It's
a
lot
of
them
are
avenues
b,
street
third,
ave,
11th,
ave,
terrace
hills,
main
street
also
and
they're
sections
of
the
street.
But
if
you
go
to
slc.gov
my
street,
that's
where
you
can
find
this
survey.
E
E
F
The
numbers
for
homelessness
and
the
resource
centers
have
been
slightly
down
at
96
and
a
half
percent
the
last
week.
The
biggest
drop
was
that
the
geraldine-
actually
it
was
a
94
occupancy
on
average.
So
still
anything
above
95
is
essentially
full.
Really
we
talked
last
week
about
victory
road
being
the
largest
encampment
right
now
above
victory
road
in
the
city
that
we're
aware
of
it
does
continue
to
grow.
There
are
services
being
offered
there.
F
The
county
health
department
is
planning
an
abatement,
probably
near
the
end
of
the
month,
depending
on
weather
and
the
soil
conditions.
It's
gonna
have
to
be
firmer
to
be
able
to
get
stuff
up
there
and
in
and
out,
but
that
is
clearly
being
addressed.
It's
on
a
high
level
of
attention
from
everybody.
F
F
Rescue
mission
was
there
had
12
individuals,
the
justice
court
was
there.
I
saw
nine
cases
the
martindale
clinic,
which
is
part
of
odyssey
house,
their
medical
clinic.
They
did
a
lot
of
work
out
there
that
day
with
35,
naloxone
kits
and
safe
injection
kits,
first
aid
kits
fentanyl
test
strips
sharps
containers,
etc.
F
Health
department
did
four
vaccinations
and
we'll
make
sure
that
the
riverside
stake
did
lunch
for
folks
up
there
that
day
as
well,
and
then
this
friday
is
the
monthly
kayak
court
and
again
the
river's,
so
low
they'll
be
doing
it
on
bikes
so
up
and
down
the
river
on
bikes
this
coming
friday,
and
there
is
a
pattern
through
the
summertime
of
the
first
friday
of
the
month
being
the
high
utilizer
court,
docket
and
homeless
court
at
wigan
center.
Second
is
resource.
Fair
and
third,
is
that
kayak
court
ongoing.
F
F
There
are
hotel
rooms
that
are
still
being
used
by
mostly
women
and
those
will
continue
on
through
june
at
the
current
funding
rates
and
then
they're
still
working
on
if
they
can
continue
to
get
some
sort
of
funding
to
extend
those
stays.
There
ongoing
efforts
to
get
as
many
people
who
want
to
back
into
the
resource
center,
so
they've
been
holding
beds
on
a
daily
basis
to
get
folks
in
from
those
overflows,
particularly
for
the
medically
vulnerable,
and
that
it's
ongoing
and
then
obviously
the
best
way
to
access
services
again
is
801-990-9999.
F
And
the
last
piece
today
we
were
going
to
talk
about
is
some
system-wide
improvements
that
are
actually
in
process
that
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of
and
a
couple
of
years
ago,
mayor
ben
mcadams
at
the
time
of
salt
lake
county,
implemented
a
collective
impact
model
that
brought
all
the
stakeholders
together
to
start
the
system
anew,
essentially
from
what
we
had
before
and
so
we're
talking
about
three
years
in
now
from
implementing
some
of
those
things.
So
I
say
the
system
we're
having
the
county
is
pretty
young
and
it's
still
growing
and
developing.
F
F
The
second
piece
is
from
the
mayor's
office
here
in
salt
lake
city.
You
know,
mayor
mendenhall
has
participated
in
the
harvard
and
bloomberg
educational
experiences
recently
in
the
last
several
years,
and
so
there's
several
of
us
who
are
working
on
homelessness
as
one
of
those
initiatives
and
so
we're
working
with
that
harvard
bloomberg
team
on
implementing
data-driven
practices
within
the
city
regarding
homelessness.
So
that
is
ongoing.
We'll
have
more
updates
for
you
as
we
move
forward
this
year
and
the
third
piece
is
a
statewide
level.
F
The
state
office
of
homelessness
services
has
a
desire
to
re
to
review
and
renew
a
state
strategic
plan
for
addressing
homelessness,
so
as
part
of
that
they
had
some
money
allocated
to
them
to
have
a
consulting
firm,
home-based,
consulting
services
which
is
now
starting
to
work
with
them
and
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
a
lot
of
other
stakeholders.
Maybe
even
the
city-
and
perhaps
this
body
too.
A
A
Item
number
two:
an
update
from
the
fleet,
block
status
and
disposition
strategy
nick
will
probably
be
on
the
screen
and
we
have
well
nick
tarbet's
here.
Yes,
we
have
tammy
and
daniel
from
the
planning
office
and
oh
and
ashley.
Oh
there's
ashley
got
you
thank
you
ashley
and
I
got
blake
in
the
background.
G
Okay,
taylor,
if
you
could
bring
up
the
presentation,
that'd
be
terrific
I'll,
give
just
a
quick
introduction
to
what
how
to
how
we.
E
Got
to
where
we
are
today
and
then
turn
the
time
over
to
the
administration
to
do
the
briefing
in
2019,
a
zoning
amendment
was
initiated
to
create
a
new
zone,
titled
fbun
3,
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
zoning
district
and
a
proposal
to
rezone
the
fleet
block
to
fbun3.
H
Thank
you
nick.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Next
slide.
Please
we
will
start
out
with
an
aerial
of
the
property.
I
think
everyone
knows
where
the
fleet
block
is
between
8th
and
9th
south
and
3rd
and
4th
west.
The
city
owns
8.75
acres
of
the
block,
so
we
own
everything
except
for
the
southwest
corner
and,
as
nick
stated,
it
has
been
vacant
generally
vacant.
H
Since
about
2010,
when
the
city
moved
its
fleet
to
a
different
property,
we
recently
had
the
property
reappraised
in
january,
and
it
came
back
at
37.5
million
dollars,
which
is
a
considerable
increase
over
the
last
appraisal.
That
equates
to
about
98
dollars
per
square
foot.
It's
important
to
note
that
that
appraised
value
considers
that
the
property
is
clean
because
we
don't
have
a
super
accurate
understanding
of
what
their
remediat
remediation
costs
are
at
this
point
in
time.
So,
as
nick
also
alluded
to,
the
administration
has
been
going
through
a
rezone
process.
H
The
current
zone
is
public
lands
and
the
proposed
zone
is
form-based
urban
neighborhood
three
and
the
administration
has
proposed
this
zone
intending
that
it
be
really
flexible.
It
kind
of
offers
a
lot
of
different
development
options
for
the
the
property
and
that,
if
the
administration
and
the
council
chooses,
we
can
get
more
dialed
in
with
details
through
the
requirements
in
the
rfp.
H
There's
been
a
lot
of
due
diligence
that
has
happened
on
the
property,
environmental
studies,
various
reports,
the
council
members
who
have
been
on
the
council
for
a
while
may
remember
a
report
that
was
done.
I
think
around
2018
by
urban
design
associates,
and
there
have
been
questions
from
the
council
on
how
this
report
will
be
used
going
forward,
and
the
current
administration
really
uses
this
report
and
looks
at
it
as
advisory
in
nature.
The
council
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
it,
and
so
we
are
not
looking
at
it
as
a
master
plan.
H
H
So
we
are
taking
additional
steps
towards
that
end
and
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
there
are
three
distinct
planning
processes
going
on
the
zoning.
The
rezone,
which
was
initiated
under
the
previous
administration,
has
moved
forward,
there's
been
by
the
planning,
division,
public
notices,
community
council
notifications,
an
open
house,
a
planning,
commission,
public
hearing
and
two
city
council
public
hearings.
But
as
nick
discussed
at
the
beginning
of
the
briefing,
the
council
has
had
a
lot
of
questions
and
did
ask
for
additional
community
outreach
to
be
done.
H
We
have
daniel
here
at
the
table
if
the
council
does
have
any
questions
on
the
proposed
zoning.
The
second
kind
of
public
processes
that's
been
happening
is
an
art
healing
process
that
ashley
cleveland
has
been
leading
heading
that
up
in
the
mayor's
office.
It's
also
been
in
coordination
with
the
salt
lake
city,
arts,
council,
and
I
will
actually,
mr
chair
if
time
allows
turn
it
over
to
ashley,
so
she
can
give
a
quick
overview
of
that
process.
I
I
From
august
and
september
of
last
year,
I
spent
some
time
reaching
out
to
families
and
just
getting
contact
information
and
having
one-on-ones
in
parks
and
coffee
shops,
things
of
that
nature
to
see
how
they
even
felt
about
engaging
with
the
city
at
all
in
any
type
of
process.
I
In
october
they
decided
that
they
felt
comfortable
with
participating
in
a
bi-monthly
process
from
october
to
march,
and
then
in
april
we
were
going
to
finalize
all
of
that
work
with
the
recommendation
letter,
and
then
they
also
made
a
request
to
have
some
outward
messaging,
so
the
rest
of
the
community
could
know
about
the
art
healing
work
that
they
had
been
doing
and
leave
public
comment
in
addition
to
letting
the
community
know
about
the
larger
development
process
that
is
going
on
for
those
that
are
interested.
H
H
So,
although,
although
there
is
a
large
community
engagement
component
to
our
plans
moving
forward,
it's
also
important
to
consider
the
project
holistically
in
terms
of
policy
alignment.
We
want
to
make
sure,
as
we
move
forward
we're
lockstep
in
alignment
with
the
city's
master
plans,
adopted
policies
and
previous
legislative
actions,
we're
also
looking
at
existing
conditions
of
the
property
to
make
sure
that
the
ultimate
plans
are
realistic
and
taking
development
considerations
into
account
and
then
also
we're
looking
at
financial
considerations,
because,
of
course,
a
project
needs
to
be
financially
viable
to
be
constructed.
H
So
an
example
of
how
we're
kind
of
thinking
about
this
process
moving
forward
is:
there's
been
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
open
space
on
the
block
and
we
really
want
to
further
engage
the
community
on
what
that
open
space
should
look
like
whether
the
community
wants
a
more
passive,
plaza
type
gathering
space
or
whether
they
may
want
some
sort
of
active
recreation
space.
That's
something
we
want
to
better
understand
by
the
community.
The
zoning
that
is
proposed
will
allow
for
the
open
space,
but
then
working
internally.
H
Looking
at
technical
considerations,
we
really
want
to
identify
the
parameters
of
that
open
space
within
the
rfp,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
policy
considerations
in
regard
to
open
space
and
other
development
aspects.
For
example,
does
the
city
prefer
that
the
open
space
be
city
owned
and
city
maintained
or
through
the
rfp?
Should
we
state
that
we
want
the
open
space
to
be
developer,
owned
and
developer
maintained,
but
with
a
public
easement?
So
these
are
some
of
the
questions
that
we
are
thinking
through
right
now,
next
slide,
please.
H
So
I
mentioned
a
few
development
constraints
that
we're
considering
and
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
these
they've
been
talked
about
before,
but
there
are
factors
that
will
impact
the
ultimate
development.
There
are
high
voltage
power
lines
along
800
south
that
could
impact
height
and
setbacks
right
there,
there's
environmental
contamination
that
the
estimates
have
varied
over
the
years,
but
it
could
cost
as
much
as
2
million.
H
That's
what
the
latest
estimate
said,
but
of
course
that
would
need
to
be
updated,
but
that
would
depend
on
the
use,
the
placement
and
the
use
on
the
property.
H
The
street
conditions
in
that
area
of
granary
do
need
improvement,
there's
also
a
high
water
table,
which
will
impact
the
ability
for
underground
parking
and
so
shared
parking
solutions
might
be
need
to
be
considered
with
the
ultimate
development
and
then
the
infrastructure
capacity
in
that
area
of
the
city
will
probably
need
to
be
upgraded
to
handle
higher
density
development
next
slide.
Please
so
right
now
we're
working
through
a
very
intensive
rfp
engagement
plan.
H
H
So
we
are
defining
and
planning
out
what
that
community
visioning
process
looks
like
right
now.
Ultimately,
that
will
be
developed
into
requirements
and
preferences
preferences
that
will
go
into
the
rfp
and
those
requirements
and
preferences
won't
just
include
community
desires
and
values
and
goals,
but
also
we
can
place
kind
of
design
restrictions,
best
practices,
kind
of
guiding
principles
for
architecture
in
the
urban
realm
as
well,
and
then,
ultimately,
we
want
to
develop
an
inclusive
marketing
plan.
H
So,
instead
of
just
sticking
the
rfp
on
sciquest
and
doing
our
typical
social
media
posts,
we
really
want
to
outreach
to
communities
that
have
not
typically
accessed
the
city
before
and
get
the
rfp
distributed
to
a
wide
range
of
diverse
stakeholders
through
various
channels
and
then
also
assemble
an
inclusive
selection
committee
that
will
be
comprised
of
representatives
from
the
city
and
also
community.
Remember
members
from
a
diverse
range
of
backgrounds
to
select
the
ultimate
development
proposal
that
moves
forward
next
slide.
Please.
H
So
another
thing
we
are
thinking
through
is
we
don't
want
the
commitment
to
the
community
to
end
with
the
outreach
that's
happening
before
the
rfp?
We
really
want
this
to
be
an
ongoing
community
commitment,
so
we
are
looking
at
mechanisms
to
ensure
that
the
community's
voices
are
continuing
throughout
the
development
process
and
even
after
the
development
is
done.
H
One
mechanism
that
we
have
been
exploring
is
called
a
community
benefit
agreement.
These
have
been
used
quite
often
in
other
larger
cities
and
communities.
But
to
my
knowledge,
the
city
has
never
required
or
been
a
party
to
one,
but
essentially
a
community
benefit.
Agreement
is
an
agreement
between
developers
and
community-based
organizations
that
represent
the
voice
of
the
community,
and
the
agreement
establishes
the
benefits
the
community
will
receive
in
return
for
supporting
the
project.
H
So
this
could
be
a
range
of
benefits.
It
could
be
setting
aside
x
amount
of
commercial
space
for
specific
types
of
businesses,
locally,
local
hiring
practices
for
the
construction
of
the
project,
or
even
a
dedicated
dedication
of
a
funding
source
for
ongoing
community
projects
or
to
support
community
needs,
or
it
could
be
for
a
certain
type
of
art.
So
we
are
looking
at
requiring
a
cba
through
the
rfp.
H
Typically,
the
cba
is
executed
first
and
then
elements
of
that
cba
can
be
integrated
into
the
contract,
the
development
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
developers.
So
there's
a
you
know:
they're
documented,
not
only
with
agreement
with
the
community,
but
also
also
with
the
city,
and
then
we're
really
focusing
on
metrics
and
outcomes
and
establishing
those
early
in
the
process.
H
H
So
our
next
steps,
the
council's
role-
and
you
already
know
this-
but
a
property
disposition-
is
typically
an
administrative
function,
but
you
do
have
a
rezone
that
you
are
considering
and
also
there
will
be
budget
requests
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
go
with
the
fleet
block.
So
we
really
want
to
work
lock,
step
with
the
council
and
meet
with
you
often
with
updates.
H
This
is
an
opportunity
if
you
wish
today,
to
provide
some
policy
feedback
to
us
as
we
move
forward,
but
we
expect
to
spend
the
next
few
months
doing
ongoing
community
engagement
to
really
make
this
a
community
driven
project,
and
so,
with
this
emphasized
commitment
to
the
community,
it
probably
will
be
q4
of
this
year
before
the
rfp
will
be
released.
Just
to
get
all
of
these
elements
that
were
planning
done.
J
If
we're
going
to
open
up
to,
thank
you
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
If
we're
going
to
open
up
to
potential
developers,
people
who
will
respond
to
an
rfp
who
historically
haven't
we're
taking
on
a
responsibility
to
consider
them
along
different
axes
of
risk
than
historically
have
been
considered
things
like
their
access
to
financing,
or
you
know
other
metrics,
which
people
who
work
in
the
architecture
and
development
world
will
know
about
that.
I
am
not
as
well
versed
in.
J
Have
we
prepared
ourselves
to
not
just
make
it
available
to
them,
but
to
receive
from
them
with
the
support
they
might
require.
I
mean
it.
It
might
look
at
like
models
that
require
these
historically
disenfranchised
populations
to
have
partnerships
with
people
who
might
have
we
thought
through
that.
H
So
we're
thinking
through
how
to
do
that
right
now.
But
we
we
want
to
connect
people
and
resources.
I'd.
J
Love
to
work
with
you
on
that,
because
I
also
don't
want
us
to
historically,
we
understand
that
people
from
marginalized
groups
have
had
less
access
to
this
calib
to
these
kinds
of
education
and
and
career
paths.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
in
a
way
that's
not
patronizing
or
inadvertently.
Savioristic
too
it's
it's
a
very
it's
a
very
difficult
line
that
we're
going
to
attempt
to
walk
on
all
these
fronts.
D
D
Individuals,
businesses
potential
developers
that
they
generally
can't
pull
off
the
scale
of
projects
that
the
city
puts
out
is
to
make
sure
that
the
projects
are
broken
up
into
smaller
chunks
right.
If
it's
the
entire
block
as
one
developer,
then
I
don't
know
of
it
of
a
historically
marginalized
developer
that
could
pull
that
off
right,
like
that's
a
huge
project,
and
it's
really
going
to
be
just
the
big
companies
that
can
actually
do
something
like
that,
so
I
think
one
way
is
to
break
it
up
into
smaller
pieces.
D
D
Retail
space
that
goes
to
minority
or
women-owned
businesses,
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
that
looks
like.
I
do
want
to
just
raise
a
red
flag
about
saying
that
we're
going
to
partner
an
experienced
developer
up
with
a
someone
from
a
marginalized
community
and
think
that's
all
going
to
be
perfect,
because
I
I
have
been
recruited
to
be
part
of
architecture
committees
with
larger
architecture
firms,
because
I'm
a
person
of
color,
but
that
ends
up
being.
D
That
is
not
hypothetical
and
it
actually
happens,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
really
careful
about
not
just
saying
that.
Okay,
because
you
have
this
one
person
on
your
team,
you
represent
diverse
populations
when
the
dynamics
on
the
back
end
of
that
of
that
deal
can
be
very
disgusting.
Sometimes
so
I
I
don't
know
exactly
how
we,
as
the
city
prevent
that
from
happening.
D
I
I'll
say
I
think
it
probably
happens
more
than
we
realize
in
a
lot
of
our
contracts,
whether
it
be
for
just
consultants
or
whether
it
be
for
property
disposition.
I
think
it
probably
happens
more
than
we
expect.
So
I
am
not
again,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
to
solve
that
problem,
but
it's
something
that
I
want
us
to
think
about,
because
because
it
happens
more
than
more
than
we
want
to
admit.
B
Sorry,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
darren
for
bringing
that
up,
because
it
was
something
that
I
actually
was
thinking
about
within
how
we're
looking
at
this
and
saying
you
know.
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
remember
is
the
language
that
we
use
and
the
way
that
the
narrative
goes
and
so
saying.
B
Yes,
that
is
true,
but
this
should
vary
like
the
whole
reason
or
the
community.
Engagement
with
the
fleet
block
is
because
what
the
community
has
taken
for
themselves
and
I'm
proud
of
that,
and
I
want
us
to
recognize
that
not
just
as
like
a
a
side
by
right,
not
just
a
like,
oh
yeah
cool,
but
we
have
to
pencil
this.
B
But
really.
Actually
we
have
an
opportunity
to
be
a
model
for
the
entire
country
of
what
we
can
do
with
with
engaging
with
our
community
and
not
just
having
it
be
the
the
back
burner
and
not
just
giving
lip
service
to
it,
but
actually
making
sure
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing.
And
I
I
think
this
just
goes
in
line
with
what
both
council
member
petro
eschler
said
and
council
member
mano
said
of
recognizing
really
what
actually
happens
and.
B
J
B
C
Mine's,
more
of
a
first
availa,
thank
you
to
all
of
you
that
are
working
on
this
and
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
already
done,
and
I
know
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
ahead
and,
in
particular
thank
thanking
ashley.
This
is
something
that
kind
of
started
with
the
murals.
When
I
was
chair
and
meeting
with
the
families
and
trying
to
I
was
just
not.
C
Aware
of
how
much
a
space
can
change
and
how
they?
This
was
such
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
help
heal,
and
so
I'm
really
glad
that
that
we
got
ashley
to,
because
I
think
she
was
the
perfect
person
to
step
in
and
have
that
conversation.
I
don't
think
I
was
definitely
not
the
the
right
person
to
do
it,
even
though
I
you
know
I
wanted
to
to
help.
C
However,
I
could-
and
I
hope
that
we
keep
that
in
mind
too,
as
part
of
the
engagement
that
I
think
a
lot
of
residents
are
going
to
need
to
be
helped
like
I
needed
understanding
how
much
a
place
can
change
and
how
the
meaning
of
a
place
can
change
and
how
we
need
to
respect
that,
but
it
that
it
doesn't
have
to
stop
us
from
going
forward,
because
I
think
that
there
might
be
some
people
that
are
like
you
know
what
is
the
hold
up,
and
why
can't
we
move
faster
on
this
and
and
it's
a
really
important
education
moment.
C
C
You
know
what
it
what
how
transformational
this
can
be.
So
thank
you.
K
I
I
yeah
I
wanted
to
you
know
thank
all
of
you
for
the
work
and
the
presentation
and
trying
to
help
us
understand
this.
I
do
have
a
few
questions
I
think,
is
on
the
topic
that
ashley
brought
up
that
she
met
with,
and
I
might
have
gotten
the
numbers
wrong
with
five
family
leaders,
10,
family
members
and
seven
families.
K
I
think
it
was
in
the
reverse
order,
but
I
wrote
them
because
apparently
I
have
issues
in
my
brain,
but
I
wrote
them
like
that.
But
if
there
are
seven
families,
so
are
there
some
families
that
are
completely
opposed
to
this,
and
it
is,
I
guess,
one
of
the
questions,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
you
know
we
can
talk
in
a
different
setting,
but
I
and
and
and
to
that
question
it
may
be
more
rhetoric
than
anything
else
is.
K
Are
we
engaging
these
families
not
only
telling
them
what
we
want
to
do
and
asking
them
politely,
but
like
also
bringing
them
on
board
to
this
project
and
if
there
is
a
way
to
to
embrace
them,
because
I
hope
that
this
is
their
project
too
right.
I
hope
that
they
feel
like
they
can
actually
have
a
say
on
what
the
future
of
this
block
is,
which
I
think
it
is
powerful
and
I
think
it
could
be
game
changing.
K
I
I
would
love
to
answer
that.
Thank
you,
councilmember
pouie.
So
there
are
several
families.
10
of
them
were
contacted.
I
Five
family
leaders
were
comfortable
with
signing
a
recommendation
letter
on
april
sorry,
I
was
sick
so
the
week
before
last
we
ended
our
engagement
with
having
the
healing
practitioners
myself
and
the
families
and
some
volunteers
from
black
lives
matter.
Taking
care
of
the
space
we
mowed,
we
picked
weeds,
we
added
flowers,
we
added
candles
and
they
were
very,
very
grateful
to
have
someone
from
the
mayor's
office
in
attendance
caring
for
the
space,
because
for
a
long
time
they
just
hadn't
felt
like
they
were
seen.
I
You
know
at
the
time
that
all
of
those
protests
were
going
on
and
people
were
commenting
a
lot
in
city
council.
They
kind
of
felt
like
their
voice
was
overshadowed
at
a
time,
so
they
really
appreciated
the
very
focused
and
protected
time
for
themselves.
I
Now,
a
third
of
the
family
members
are
interested
in
knowing
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
block
overall,
the
other
portion
of
the
family
they're
just
wanting
to
grieve
and
have
a
space
to
come
and
visit
their
family
members.
So
that's
really
all
that
they
care
about
the
third
that
is
interested
in.
You
know
seeing
what
happens
in
the
future.
They
really
would
like
some
community
resources
on
the
block
on
the
future,
whether
that's
some
affordable,
housing,
a
day
care
center.
I
I
They've
also
said
that
you
know
they
would
like,
maybe
like
a
day
of
remembrance,
or
maybe
we
can
talk
about
renaming
the
block,
but
they
do
want
to
be
included
that
third,
at
least
you
know,
the
the
other
two
thirds
are
mothers
and
they
kind
of
just
want
some
peace,
because
they
still
are
actively
fighting
courts
in
other
cities
and
states
and
well
other
cities.
I
should
say
and
they're
you
know
they
one
family
member
in
particular,
said
sorry,
I'm
getting
emotional.
She
said
she
wished.
I
Ogden
took
the
time
you
know
they
wish
cottonwood
heights
weren't
so
adversarial.
They
wish
that
they
had
been
seen.
You
know
they
hadn't
even
received
an
apology.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they're
looking
for
some
temporary
signage
to
you
know
stand
as
a
testament
to
the
emotional
work
that
they've
done
there.
K
I
appreciate
that
and
the
the
second
question
I
guess,
is
more
of
a
policy
question
than
anything
else
because-
and
I
I've
been
thinking
about
this
before-
and
I
think
I
have
it
on
my
board
of
things
that
I
need
to
work
on
which
I
don't
look
as
soft
as
I
should,
but
it's
basically
a
commitment
or
some
sort
of
preference
for
companies
that
are
responsible
to
to
our
the
values
of
this
city,
and
you
know,
especially
when
we're
using
taxpayer
monies
to
incentivize
some
sort
of
development
or
we
are.
K
You
know
the
rda
and
this
you
know
some
other
funding.
But
I
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
way
for
for
this,
this
city
and
this
this
body
to
create
some
sort
of
policy
or
some
standards
that
you
know
reflects
the
values
of
the
city
when
we
are
giving
money
away
that
they
we
understand
what
their
commitment
to
diversity
is
and
their
you
know
their
diversity
and
inclusion
plans
or,
if
they're,
actually
doing
the
work.
K
So
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
to
look
into
in
the
future,
and
I
I
hope
that
maybe
this
is
the
kickstarter
of
that
conversation
that
that,
hopefully,
the
people
that
are
the
organizations
that
are
developing
this
this
block-
and
hopefully
the
future
blocks
of
of
salt
lake
city-
are
also
share
the
values
of
this
city.
So
thank
you.
J
The
humility
required
to
do
this
right.
We
have
some
unparalleled
planning
minds.
We
have
some
unparalleled
gifts
at
the
table,
but
it
is
going
to
require
us
all
being
willing
to
hear
hard
things
from
another
one
another
and
being
willing
to
say
those
hard
things
with
grace
and
compassion
to
one
another.
But
I'm
really
excited
that.
J
If
we
do
this
even
partially
right,
even
like
75
percent
right,
we
will
be
creating
a
new
climate
and
a
new
standard
for
observing
the
dignity
of
people
in
our
city
to
use
mundane
things
like
zoning
and
planning
and
ordinances
to
protect
one
another's
dignity.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
in
advance
for
being
on
the
front
lines
of
that.
I
do
not
envy
your
position
ashley.
J
I
do
not
envy
the
work
that
you
have
to
do
and
I
acknowledge
especially
the
burden
that
you
bring
on
having
the
historic
burden
placed
on
you
most
strongly,
but
I
have
full
confidence
in
us
and
I
just
want
to
make
myself
available
to
you
whether
that's
for
screaming
into
voids,
as
I've
said
earlier
out
of
frustration
or
out
of
sitting
down
and
seeing
how
we
can
actionably
move
this
needle
so
that
our
kids
don't
have
to
worry
about
murals.
We
can
worry
about
something
else.
L
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
think
I
want
to
go
back
to
what
councilmember
mano
was
talking
about
the
you
know,
given
up
giving
opportunities
to
smaller
groups,
but
like
real
opportunities,
not
just
the
seat
at
the
table.
In
the
picture
you
know,
but
as
so
I
was
reading
this
and
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
what
could
happen
here.
What
could
be
what
how
we
can
use
this
property.
L
H
L
That's
great
and
that's
something
that
I
wanted
to
say
because
I
feel
like
this
could
be
something
revolutionary
if
you,
if
you
will
on
how
we
either
use
our
property
but
to
help
others,
but
without
disposing
of
it.
So,
for
example,
in
the
rda,
we're
trying
to
buy
land
and
have
some
home
ownership
and
then
for
whatever
amount
of
time,
and
then
that
property
owner
could
leave
and
take
the
equity
with
them.
And
then
we
keep
the
land.
And
so
I
feel
like
this
could
be
something
like
that
as
well.
L
In
some
parts
I
don't
know
how
it
all
can
work,
but
it
could
be
that
with
home
ownership,
but
also
with
commercial
ownership.
You
know
give
opportunities
to
small
businesses
that
most
likely
we
have
to
rent,
but
at
this
in
this
in
our
property
to
own
their
building
for
a
while
until
they
actually
can
outgrow.
You
know
that
building
and
go
move
somewhere
else
and
big
build
something
bigger,
but
you
give
that
opportunity
to
a
small
business
owner
to
build
some
equity.
M
L
Clientele
and
all
that
stuff,
so
I
can.
I
can
see
this
happening
this
way
and
not
just
like,
like
this
homogeneous
development
right
with
housing
building
and
we
have
a
big
developer,
that's
all
of
it
leases
out
and
and
that's
that
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
so
some
thoughts.
Thank
you.
D
I'll
be
I'll,
try
and
be
quick.
I
I
I
really
am
encouraged
by
this
conversation
I
feel
like
we
are
allowing
like
chris
talked
about
the
meaning
of
a
space.
Can
change
we're
allowing
that
changed,
meaning
to
actually
influence
what
we're
planning
to
do,
and
it
feels
like
a
really
tangible,
serious
way
and
so
appreciate
that
I'm
really
grateful
for
this
update.
D
I
think
that
the
the
option
of
a
land
lease
rather
than
a
land
sale
if
it's
a
ground
release
for
more
than
zero
dollars,
could
help
offset
some
ongoing
maintenance
costs
of
what
I
hope
will
include
on
this
block.
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
accomplish
many
city
community
goals
with
this
one
block,
and
I
hope
that
one
of
those
I
would
be,
I
would
not
be
representing
my
constituents
well
if
I
didn't
again
say
that
I
think
one
of
those
needs
to
be
some
significant
usable
open
space
for
the
community.
D
What
the
space
has
become-
and
I
think
it's
important-
that
that
remains
public
space-
that
we
allow
public
demonstration
on
it,
that
we
allow
that
to
be
actual
space
access,
not
just
like
a
public
easement
on
a
private
property,
and
I
and
I
hope
that
that
ground
lease
model
can
provide
some
ongoing
funding
for
because
we
know
we
always
have
a
problem
maintaining
having
the
funding
to
maintain
our
parks
and
public
spaces
as
well
as
we
would
like
to.
D
But
maybe
this
model
can
help
us
do
that,
provide
something
to
the
community
that
we,
you
know
a
typical
developer
would
just
be
pocketing
all
of
that
all
of
that
profit,
but
maybe
we
are
siphoning
off
some
of
that
profit
to
have
an
ongoing
maintenance
stream
for
a
social
justice
memorial
and
a
public
green,
open
space
or
whatever.
That
may
be
so
I
this
is
kind
of
uncharted
territory.
I
think
for
the
way
that
we
are
disposing
of
land
and
I'm
really
excited
about
it.
It's
a
lot
of
things
to
figure
out.
D
A
I
have
a
couple
questions,
but
first
I
want
to
say
one
thing
I
love
about
this
is
we
have
seven
council
members
here
and
a
staff
and
it's
wonderful
to
see
all
the
different
angles
that
we're
looking
at
this
problem
and
we
can
all
look
at
each
other's
ankles
and
go
yeah.
I
like
that
one
I
like
that.
I
can
see
all
that
and
it's
a
beautiful
thing
that
multiple
minds
that
are
going
from
the
architect
to
the
lawyer
to
the
dev.
A
You
know
to
the
argentinian,
to
the
planner,
to
the
non-profit
and
to
the
me
you
know,
and
so
it's
wonderful
to
see
all
these
angles
coming
in
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
the
engagement
here,
because
we
need
all
these
angles
to
to
accomplish
the
the
vision
that
we
want,
and
I
I
just
have
a
couple
things
ashley
when
you
did
was
there
ten
murals.
Is
that
how
many
families
that
are?
I
No,
the
murals
are
somewhere
around
17
now,
but
as
far
as
family
members
that
we've
been
engaged
with,
there
are
seven
families.
Yes,.
A
Okay,
oh
seven,
families,
okay,
okay,
I
appreciate
that
very
much
and
are
we
are
we
thinking
about
engaging
the
the
other
mural
families,
or
is
that
just
the
seven
total
families.
I
The
other
people
who
are
on
the
murals
are
usually
national
or
just
other
cases
in
the
state
that
have
happened.
That
artists
just
felt
inclined
to
give
voice
to.
A
A
But
one
thing
I
I
also
look
at
and
go.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
people
can
get
there
and
I
look
at
the
force
the
blocks
the
streets
around.
It
they're
all
five
six
seven
lanes
wide
and
we
need
to
make
it
accessible
from
everybody.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
development
plan
just
doesn't
end
at
the
curb.
A
So
that's
my
vision
on
it,
open
space
and
accessibility
for
everyone
across
the
board
and
with
that
we'll
we'll
stop
the
discussion
here,
because
we
need
to
move
on
ashley.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us,
virtually
daniel
tammy,
nick
and
blake
in
the
back.
Thank
you
for
presentation.
The
presentation.
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
this
is
a
progress
update
on
the
administration's
responses
to
the
council's
legislative
intents.
By
way
of
background
or
a
reminder,
the
legislative
intents
are
adopted
as
part
of
each
budget
and
today
they're
mostly
from
fiscal
year
22..
There
are
several
intents
also
outstanding
from
previous
years,
but
not
too
many
of
them.
I
The
purpose
of
this
update
is
to
help
clarify
any
questions
before
the
fy
23
budget
discussions
start
so
council
members
might
want
to
ask
about
progress.
That's
been
made
on
certain
items.
Department,
responses,
unanticipated
budget
impacts,
any
feedback
you
might
have,
and
of
course
there
are
some
policy
questions
in
the
staff
report.
I
I
I
Probably
the
only
one
would
be
way
at
the
bottom.
The
rda
energy
efficiency
is
a
condition
of
any
rda
project,
loans
and
investments
that
the
board
took
care
of,
and
so
that
is
now
part
of
city
policy.
I
I
So
there
may
there
are
a
few
like
that
that
you
could
ask
about,
or
presumably
they'd
be
in
place
by
the
discussions
in
may
or
june,
of
the
fy
23
budget.
A
And
I
I
I
know
councilmember
fowler
would
also
prob.
I
shouldn't
speak
out
of
turn
here,
but
I
would
think
we
need
to
continue
to
press
on
that.
B
I
did
see
that
katie
logged
on
or
put
our
camera
on.
Is
there
an
update
on
that,
because
I
know
that
you
have
had
insurance
working
on
it.
I
Yes,
so
essentially,
there
was
an
intern
last
year
over
the
summer
law
student
clerk,
and
what
that
revealed
is
that
essentially,
more
attention
and
expertise
will
be
needed
to
complete
the
review,
including
involvement
of
the
prosecutor's
office.
So
the
attorney's
office
request
is
for
it
to
be
continued
in
the
coming
fiscal
year.
I
So
to
continue
from
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department,
there
was
an
fy
22
intent
to
update
the
boarded
building
fee,
another
from
the
same
year
on
trips
to
transit,
expansion,
evaluation
and
from
fy
21.
The
project
of
transferring
the
housing
trust
fund
development
loans
and
payments
to
the
rda.
D
I
A
On
the
trips
to
transit,
you
know
I
I
look
at
this
and
I
look
at
our
success
with
the
fairless
february
and
the
other
public
transportation
discussions
we're
having,
and
it
would
really
be
nice
to
understand
how
well
it
has
worked
on
the
west
side
and
and
then
the
actions
that
we're
looking
to
go
forward
with
it
on
the
upper
avenues
in
the
east
bench
on
that
on-demand
service
and
because
we
want
to
improve
and
increase
our
public
use
of
public
transportation.
So
I
want
to
see
how
well
this
works.
I
So
our
information
was
that
that
the
preliminary
information
from
the
west
side
would
not
be
available
for
another
year
or
so,
but
it
sounds
like
you
may
want
an
update
before
then.
I
Any
others
so
number
three
on
the
finance
department.
There
was
a
intent
for
from
fy22
that
the
funding
our
future
definition
be
expanded
to
include
social
workers
and
non-emergency
traffic
enforcement
programs.
Since
the
council
has
has
been
broadening
the
scope
of
security
to
include
a
number
of
non-non-sworn
officers,
the
idea
was
to
make
sure
that
some
of
that
funding
can
be
used
for
those
purposes.
C
A
C
I
Enforcement
yeah,
I
think
you're
referring
to
the
police,
civilian
response
team
and
that
is
actually
down
in
the
next
item
in
police
department
item
four.
C
N
D
I
have
a
question,
mr
chair,
on
just
this
specific
legislative
intent
of
expanding
the
definition
of
funding
our
future.
Is
that,
because
I
wasn't
on
the
council,
then
was
that
adopted
by
ordinance?
I
I
So
so,
essentially,
there
was
a
good
faith
effort
on
the
part
of
the
council
and
the
administration
to
make
sure
that
funding
our
future
was
used
only
for
specific
number
of
categories,
including
public
safety,
housing
transit
and
I'm
forgetting
one
of
them.
But
but
the
idea
here
is
that
the
public
safety
one
has
been
expanded
several
times,
for
example,
to
include
firefighters
to
include
dispatch,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
that
the
council's
intent
is
to
include
certain
aspects
of
public
safety
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
included.
I
But
so
far
the
the
council
hasn't
wanted
to
go
outside
those
agreed
on
items
in
in
funding
our
future.
Well,.
D
I
think
I
think,
by
the
virtue
of
us
adopting
this
legislative
attempt
last
year.
I
think
we
agreed
that
we
want
to
expand
those
right.
I
mean
that
was
my
intention
on
that,
and
I
would
continue
to
support
that
idea
of
expanding
to
non-emergency
social
workers
and
potentially
emer
non-emergency
traffic
enforcement,
which
I
know
we
don't
have
a
program
for
that.
I
I
They're
not
defined
by
ordinance
effectively,
you
set
the
policy
when
you
adopt
the
budget
each
year
and
really
the
council
has
full
flexibility
to
adjust
those
it's
more
of
the.
B
N
This
is
how
we
this
this
is
how
this
city
council
is
defining
that
funding
our
future
pot
of
money.
And
then
you,
then
you
just
have
it
and
there
wouldn't
be
debate
in
the
future
about
well.
Did
it
include
this,
or
did
it
include
that
you'd
have
a
a
clear
document,
and
that
would
be
a
way
to
close
this
out
and
also
address
any
issues
that
come
from
the
mayor's
budget.
I
So,
moving
on
to
the
police
department,
if
there
aren't
other
questions
from
fy21,
there
is
a
intent
on
the
police
department
role
that
includes
park,
rangers
social
workers,
the
internal
affairs
unit
and
the
police
civilian
response
team.
Maybe
we
start
with
any
questions
on
those
or
discussions.
I.
A
Mean
the
park
rangers
were
already
balls,
are
rolling
we're
already
looking
at
ft
hiring
park
rangers
at
this
time.
I
Yes,
and
that
is
actually
being
done
by
the
public
lands
department,
so
they'll
be
non-sworn
employees
not
with
the
same
sort
of
public
public
safety
responsibilities
as
police
officers,
but
more
of
an
educational
and
sort
of
eyes
on
the
park.
A
A
I
I
believe
the
the
intent
was
about
the
responding
social
workers.
There
were
a
number
of
of
positions
hired
for
inside
the
police
department
last
year,
but.
A
We
just
we
did
fun
yeah,
and
I
think
she
started
this
past
this
summer
or
last
year.
Mr.
K
Chair,
so
are
those
the
police,
the
the
those
social
workers
that
are
working
under
the
fire
department.
A
With
just
jessica
waters
in
the
cc.
K
Yeah
there
is
working
within
the
fire
department
or
police,
I'm
confused.
So
then
this
console
created
funded
a
new
form
of
hi.
How
can
I
find
my
word
today:
alternative
response,
alternative
response
and
they're
working
under
the
fire
department,
because,
yes,
okay,
so
these
ones
are
different
but
they're
doing
the
same.
They're.
I
Doing
slightly
different-
and
I
mean
essentially
in
the
police
department,
they
are
accompanied
by
police
officers
on
certain
calls
and
when
they're
available,
because
there's
been
a
shortage
of
social
workers
in
general,
well,
both
in
general,
but
also
within
the
police
department,
to
be
able
to
go
on
all
the
calls
where
they
might
be
required
or
where
they're
requested
in
the
in
the
fire
department.
I
It's
slightly
different
program
that
focuses
sort
of
on
the
first
response
for
non-uh
for
cases
where
violence
is
not
expected
or
anticipated
or
hasn't
happened,
so
that
it's
sort
of
a
non-police
response
to
people
who
may
be
in
crisis.
I
I
M
I
I
A
I
have
to
say
we
need
to
continue
to
look
at
the
gulf
funds,
the
sustainability.
I
think
that
has
to
be
an
annual
review
on
that.
K
K
And
so,
when
we're
talking
about
this,
you
know-
and
I
have
a
few
friends
that
golf
and
I'm
not
one
but-
and
they
were
telling
me
about
how
amazing
some
golf
courses
in
this
county
are
and
how
much
revenue
those
golf
courses
bring
to
those
cities
and
they
are
booked
through
through
the
year
for
their
event.
Centers,
you
know
the
littered,
whatever
you
call
them
the
big
rooms
they
have
where
golfers
hang
out
clubhouse.
K
I
I
Or
we
could
do
it
now,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
just
checking.
So
the
next
item
would
be
the
fiscal
year.
2022
public
lands
maintenance.
This
was
funding,
estimates
essentially
from
public
lands
regarding
maintenance-
and
I
think
I
saw
kristen
riker
here
earlier
if
their
questions.
D
B
Romano,
this
is
christian
riker.
No,
that
is
not
including
reimagine
nature.
Imagine
nature
was
a
master
plan.
It
was
more
overreaching.
It
didn't
get
that
detailed
into
a
maintenance
plan.
So
to
respond
to
this
legislative
intent,
I've
been
working
with
the
staff
and
the
team
to
look
at.
You
know
how
we
can
improve
maintenance
and
what
it
would
cost,
and
so,
in
order
for
us
to
do
that,
we've
been
looking
at
systemic
issues
that
have
caused
maintenance
issues
for
the
parks,
department
or
parks,
division
and.
B
We
haven't
gotten
the
cost
estimates
yet
for
everything,
but
but
there's
rather
than
just
say
this
is
how
much
money
we
need.
We
want
to
explain
to
you
what's
happening
in
our
parks.
What's
changed
in
the
last
10
years
and.
J
And
what
really
is
causing
some
of
these
issues,
because
some
of
them
are
not
money
issues
really
they're
activation
issues,
they're
issues
with.
B
How
we
hire
people
and-
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we're
working
on
a
document
to
explain
that
and
we
will
propose
some
solutions
with
some
cost
estimates.
L
I
D
A
D
D
I
And
finally,
the
rda,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
the
energy
efficiency
intent
from
fiscal
year,
22
was
removed
or
sorry
was
completed.
The
second
one
is
was
originally
an
rda
intent,
but
it
morphed
into
a
much
wider
intent.
It's
fy
22
structure
of
accounts
within
rda
and
all
other
departments,
including
fund
balances
and
previous
capital
projects.
I
I
I
could
see
you
council,
member
mono,
so
there
will
be
additional
clarity
on
this
in
coming
years.
Mary
beth
may
want
to
say
something
about
this.
I'm
not
sure.
A
Item
number
four
fiscal
year:
2022
to
23,
proposed
budgets,
department
of
airport.
We
have
sam
coming
up
and
we
have
airport
director
bill,
wyatt
and
brian
butler
defense
and
accounting
welcome.
E
E
O
So
I'll
introduce
brian
butler,
our
director
of
finance
here
in
a
moment,
but
I
thought
I
would
just
start
with
kind
of
a
theme
I
think
for
the
airport
budget
and
and
finances
this
year,
and
the
theme
is
catch
up,
we're
actually
going
to
start
filling
positions
that
were
authorized
in
2019
for
the
year
2020
when
we
ended
up
not
needing
them
for
obvious
reasons.
O
That's
when
really
the
really
serious
planning
work
was
done
on
the
airport
that
we're
now
occupying
and
continuing
to
construct-
and
I
think
I
can
say
it
was
not
an
optimistic
period
for
commercial
aviation.
This
is
coming
out
of
the
2008
financial
crisis.
Delta
was
really
uncertain
as
our
hub
carrier.
O
What
the
future
was
here
in
salt
lake,
what
their
future
was,
and
so
the
kind
of
the
mentality
around
the
design
was
make
it
as
small
and
inexpensive
as
possible,
and
I
would
say
they
largely
succeeded
at
doing
that
and
it
accounts
for
the
kind
of
daily
challenge
that
we
confront,
which
is
we're
full
in
every
sense
of
the
word.
If
you
go
out
to
the
airport,
you
just
see
people
we're
we're
very
much
back
to
pre-covet
levels
of
passenger
volumes.
O
We
have
just
intense
competition
among
the
carriers
for
more
gates,
and
it
just
reflects
itself
throughout
the
concessionaires,
all
of
whom
are
now
open
and
and
operating,
although
not
necessarily
for
all
of
the
hours
that
we
hope
for
because
of
the
labor.
Challenges
are
really
knocking
it
out
of
the
park
financially
and
so
you'll
see
all
of
that
reflected
in
our
budget.
O
And
so
we
are
attempting
to
catch
up
both
with
the
workforce
that
we
need
to
operate
this
brand
new
and
vastly
more
complex
facility,
but
also
finding
ways
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
give
the
carriers
and
ultimately
passengers
the
service
that
that
they
need-
and
I
can
tell
you
it's
not
a
simple
challenge,
because
basically
the
plans
are
in
place.
O
We
do
have
the
potential
for
a
16
gate,
expansion
on
the
b
concourse,
and
I
think
it's
likely
based
on
the
feedback,
we've
gotten
from
the
carriers,
that
we
will
come
back
at
some
point
over
the
course
of
the
summer
to
present
a
proposal
to
you
to
go
ahead
and
build
that
which
will
be
the
last
major
new
construction
at
the
airport.
Until
there
is
a
concourse
c,
which
is,
I
can
tell
you
past
my
time.
O
It's
going
to
be
a
few
years
down
the
road,
so
everything
that
you'll
see
in
the
budget
really
reflects
the
sense
of
urgency
that
we
have
about
meeting
a
demand
for
all
things
airport
that
far
exceeds
what
people
had
in
their
head
back
in
2010,
11
and
12..
And
I
think
we're
you
know,
I'm
describing
this
in
in
challenging
terms.
It
is
challenging.
These
are
good
problems
to
have
I'd
rather
be
on
this
side
of
it
than
on
the
other
side.
O
Having
built
too
much,
that's
clearly
not
a
problem
here
in
salt
lake,
but
we
are
definitely
pushing
ourselves
and
and
the
rest
of
the
airport
family
to
do
everything
possible
to
meet
the
needs
of
of
a
remarkably
growing
passenger
base
here
in
salt
lake,
so
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
to
brian,
okay
and
obviously
any
questions
feel
free
to
thanks
bill.
Q
And
just
for
logistics,
would
it
please,
you,
council,
chair
to
use
the
powerpoint
presentation
in
here,
so
you
guys
can
follow
along
kind
of
the
the
numbers
that
we're
presenting
and
how
do
do
I
just
give
the
next
slide.
Q
Q
Every
time
we
prepare
a
budget,
we
have
different
goals
and
objectives
we
want
to
do.
I
think
you
guys,
council
members
are
all
aware
that
the
pressures
that
not
only
the
city
but
the
airport
faces
as
far
as
labor
you're,
going
to
see
some
cost
associated
with
that
in
our
budget.
But
the
good
news
is:
we
have
a
lot
more
revenues
to
help
offset
some
of
those
costs.
So
there
is
a
couple
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
that
are
not
included
in
this
budget.
Q
We
generally
start
our
budget
in
october
and
november
and
by
the
time
we're
presenting
this
to
the
airlines
in
february
march,
we've
already
finalized
our
budget.
We
know
there
was
a
compensation
study
done
recently
for
non-represented
employees
that
was
presented
to
the
airport.
We
know
what
that
number
is,
but
we
had
already
presented
our
budget
to
the
airlines.
Q
It's
our
intent
to
accept
that
into
our
fiscal
year,
23
budget,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
reflected
into
these
numbers.
We
had
already
told
the
airlines
what
a
landing
fee
and
terminal
rent
is.
So
we
will
be
coming
back
to
you
at
some
point
to
really
amend
our
budget
to
incorporate
that
going
forward
and
then
we're
aware
that
there
is
a
a
project
out
there
for
a
city-wide
radio
system
that
the
airport
will
be
part
of.
Q
We
don't
know
what
that
number
is
so
versus
putting
a
big
number
in
to
our
budget
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
our
landing
fee
and
terminal
rent
is.
We
would
rather
work
with
mary,
beth
and
aaron
bentley
and
kind
of
the
city
team
to
figure
out
what
is
that
cost
and
once
we
figure
out
both
the
compensation,
as
well
as
the
radio
costs,
we
can
then
incorporate
that
into
our
rates
and
fees
that
we
charge
the
airlines.
Q
So
and
we'll
get
into
this
in
some
future
slides.
So
when
we
were
working
with
the
city
and
we
were
trying
to
project
our
numbers,
we
worked
very
closely
with
john
bike
and
mary
beth
and
said:
what
should
we
be
projecting
for
merit
increases?
What
should
we
be?
You
know
projecting
for
health
insurance
increases,
this
compensation
study
just
came
so
late
to
the
airport
that
we
had
already
met
with
all
of
the
airline
representatives
in
early
march
that
we
had
already
had
that
budget
discussion
with
them.
N
So
the
document
that
you're
working
on
that
you
gave
us
a
draft
of
yesterday,
who
is
that
document
for
it's?
It's
not
for
the
council.
Q
It
is
ultimately
for
the
city
council
yeah,
I
mean
it's
our
it's
our
formal
budget
request
to
city
council
that
we're
asking
you
to
approve.
We
just
know
that
there's
1.3
million
that
is
not
included
in
those
numbers.
That
would
we
would
need
to
come
back
to
you
in
a
budget
amendment
form
so
we're
trying
to
give
you
a
heads
up.
O
O
Our
budget
process
begins
with
the
airlines
giving
us
a
passenger
volume
forecast
so
that
we
can
tell
them
pretty
carefully
and
closely
what
their
cost
of
operating
in
salt
lake
is
going
to
be
in
the
following
year
and
the
reality
is
inevitably
adjustments
get
made,
because
there
are
just
any
number
of
changes
that
occur
over
the
course
of
time.
Yeah.
N
This
one's
just
a
new
one,
I
know
that
there
will
be
other
things
in
budget
openings.
This
is
just
I
haven't
seen
a
budget
approved
by
airlines
that
didn't
include
compensation,
and
there
was
one
problem:
one
year
where
the
city,
where
the
airlines
had
approved
the
budget
and
this
council
was
told
that
they
couldn't
change
it,
which,
of
course,
that
didn't
go.
Oh.
Q
Yeah,
so
so
I
apologize
for
the
confusion
there,
but
we
just
didn't
want
you
to
be
surprised.
If
we
came
back
in
the
fall
and
said
our
intent
is
to
make
these
effective
july
1st
with
the
rest
of
the
city,
we
know
we're
going
to
accept.
These
merit
increases
because
it's
a
tight,
labor
market,
we're
excited.
A
Q
The
other
thing
on
this
slide
that
I
would
just
point
out
is
we
will
be
back
in
the
bond
market.
A
year
ago
we
went
me
and
bill
to
new
york.
We
borrowed
a
billion
dollars
in
debt.
It
only
lasted
us
about
two
years,
so
we'll
be
going
back
for
around
500
million
and
that's
really
to
complete
phase
three,
which
is
what
we've
currently
authorized.
Q
Q
This
really
kind
of
tells
the
story
of
what's
happened
in
salt
lake
city
in
cobit,
19.
you'll,
see
in
2019.
That
was
an
all-time
high
as
far
as
the
number
of
people
traveling
through
the
airport
is
about
13.1
million.
What
we
call
employments
people
actually
getting
on
an
airplane,
not
necessarily
getting
off,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
the
dramatic
impacts
that
covet
19
had
on
the
passengers
here
at
the
airport
for
fiscal
year
22.
This
is
actually
what
the
airlines
told
us
to
expect.
They
told
us
to
expect
11
and
a
half
million
employments.
Q
O
I
might
just
add
for
color
commentary
the
airport,
the
airlines
always
give
us
a
number
that
is
lower
than
what
they
really
think
and
the
reason
is
to
maintain
some
pressure
during
budget
discussion
discussion,
so
that
will
appear
as
though
we're
more
expensive
than
we
really
are,
and
then
they
end
up-
and
this
has
been
our
experience
really
since
I've
been
here-
they'll
grow
at
anywhere
between
6
and
12
a
year
here
and
they'll
tell
us
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
O
Well,
you
know
two
and
a
half
percent,
maybe
three
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
six
or
eight
or
ten
or
twelve
and
covid
obviously
did
have
an
impact.
But
you
can
see
the
13
number
up
at
the
top
I'll
be
shocked
if
it
isn't,
you
know,
materially
higher
than
that
yeah.
So.
Q
So
this
is
the
airline's
forecast
for
fiscal
year
23.
it's
an
all-time
high,
it's
six
percent
higher
than
what
we
did
in
2019
at
you
know
almost
13.9
million
employment,
so
that
really
is
a
driver
for
a
lot
of
our
non-aeronautical
revenues
that
you'll
see.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
thought
it
was
important
to
brief
the
council
on
all
of
the
various
stimulus
funds
that
have
been
very
specific
to
the
airport.
Q
Q
Is
you
know
what
did
we
think
we
were
going
to
do
in
fiscal
year
22?
What
are
the
updated
forecasts
and
then
what
are
we
requesting
for
this
coming
year?
And
the
thing
I
would
point
out
is
at
the
bottom.
You
know
for
fiscal
year
22
we
thought
we
were
only
going
to
contribute
50
million
dollars
to
our
bottom
line,
to
fund
capital
projects,
and
you
know
continue
the
construction
of
the
the
construction
at
the
airport.
The
reality
is
is
we
have
had
a
lot
more
revenues
because
of
that
employment
growth?
Q
It's
almost
it's
more
than
doubled.
What
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
It
was
115
million
coming
into
next
year.
It's
going
to
be
around
100
million.
So
that's
how
the
airport
funds
a
lot
of
these
projects
they're
all
based
on
the
revenues
we
generate
there.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
kind
of
jump
the
gun
on
the
stimulus
packages.
Q
This
kind
of
shows
you
the
cares,
act,
the
chrisa
acts.
It
also
includes
the
arpa
and
there's
a
new
grant.
That
was
specific
for
airports.
It's
called
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
it's
25
billion
dollars.
That's
going
to
be
allocated
over
five
years
and
there's
different
buckets
of
money.
The
thing
that
has
been
announced
and
what
you're
seeing
on
the
slide
is
the
15
billion.
That's
really
based
on.
Q
You
know
how
busy
of
an
airport
you
are
it's
a
formula
based,
and
you
know,
based
on
kind
of
our
employment
and
cargo
data,
we're
expecting
around
25
million
dollars
and
the
difference
between
this
grant
is
it's
really
meant
for
infrastructure.
It's
not
meant
to
kind
of
employ
people
and
pay
our
operating
expenses,
it's
really
to
invest
in
projects
at
the
airport
and
so
we're
working
with
the
faa
to
accept
these
grants.
Q
But
these
have
been
critical
for
us
really
to
kind
of
stabilize
the
rates
and
charges
that
we've
been
able
to
charge
the
airlines
there.
So
if
we
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
you're
going
to
go
ahead
and
see
a
pie
chart
of
kind
of
the
different
sources
of
revenues
we
have
at
the
airport
and
the
reason
I
like
this
slide
is
before
we
moved
into
the
facility.
Q
Airline
revenues
really
only
accounted
for
40
percent
of
the
revenues
we
generated
at
the
airport
because
we
had
no
debt
outstanding.
They
weren't
required
to
pay
the
principal
and
interest
on
that
when
we
presented
this
during
covid,
it
flip-flopped
airlines
because
we
do
cost
recovery.
They
were
about
60
percent
of
our
revenues
and
we
didn't
have
as
much
parking
revenue
we
didn't
have
as
much
rental
car.
This
is
what
you
should
expect
to
see
going
forward
for
a
large
hub
airport.
Q
It
should
be
about
a
50
50
split
between
what
the
airlines
are
contributing
to
the
revenue
sources
and
then
50
for
all
of
the
kind
of
economic
activity
at
the
airport
like
parking
and
rental
cars.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
it
really
is
kind
of
the
same
category
of
how
we
break
down
what
we
charge
the
airlines.
You
know
what
did
we
think
it
was
for
fiscal
year
22.
Q
What's
the
updated
forecast?
What
is
it
going
forward
and
you'll
actually
see
for
airline
revenues?
It's
pretty
consistent
because
you
know
we
know
what
our
costs
are
going
to
be
and
that's
how
we
build
them
through
a
landing
fee
or
a
terminal
rental
rate.
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
it's
really.
This
is
the
story
of
fiscal
year
22..
Q
You
know
just
to
remind
you.
We
when
we
prepared
our
budget,
the
vaccine
rollout
had
not
occurred
yet
for
cobit
19,
and
so
we
were
really
going
off
the
airlines
forecast
when
we
were
trying
to
forecast
what
should
our
parking
revenue
should
be,
and
you
know
in
2019
it
was
an
all-time
high
of
36.3
million.
Q
We
were
only
about
85
percent
of
the
traffic,
so
we
thought
about
85
percent
of
parking
revenue
should
be
accurate.
Well,
the
reality
is
so
we
only
budgeted
28
million.
The
reality
is,
is
we've
done,
48
million
or
we're
projected
to
48
million,
and
even
though
the
business
traveler
is
not
parking
in
the
garage,
a
lot
of
people
are
doing
what
they
call
revenge.
Travel
they've
been
cooped
up
in
their
houses,
they're
willing
to
park
in
the
garage
and
they're
just
they're
saying
I'm
going
on
that
vacation.
I
don't
care
how
much
it
cost.
Q
I
don't
care
how
much
that
airfare
is
we're
going
to
travel
and
we're
seeing
that
and
it's
not
a
unique
phenomenon
here
in
salt
lake
city,
I've
asked
other
cfos
at
other
airports.
Is
your
parking
revenue
up
considerably
from
2019
and
it's
across
the
board,
and
we
really
are
kind
of
attributing
it
to
this
revenge
travel,
but
there
is
business
travel
happening
at
the
airport
and
we're
seeing
that
it's
just
not
the
typical
suit
and
tie
they're.
Now
in
polos,
it's
much
more
casual
as
they're
coming
through.
I.
O
Would
just
add
a
little
color
commentary
here,
as
well
so
prior
to
the
pandemic
for
the
five-year
period
prior
to
that
roadway
revenues
generated
from
uber
and
lyft
at
the
beginning
of
that
period
was
zero
and
in
five
years
it
went
from
zero
to
sixty
percent
of
all
the
roadway
revenues.
When
you
use
the
commercial
roadway
you
pay
a
fee
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
O
When
the
pandemic
hit,
uber
and
lyft
basically
went
away
either
the
drivers
didn't
want
to
drive
they
weren't
feeling
comfortable
or
passengers
weren't
calling
them
because
they
didn't
feel
comfortable,
and
so
what
that
meant
was-
and
you
can
definitely
experience
this
if
you
use
the
pickup
and
drop
offline,
if
you're,
you're,
picking
somebody
up
or
you're
dropping
somebody
off
it's
a
mess
and
that's
because
that's
how
people
are
getting
to
and
from
the
airport.
I
don't
really
expect
that
to
be
a
forever
thing.
O
We're
definitely
part
of
this
are
in
a
kind
of
a
holding
pattern
to
see
how
are
the
patterns
going
to
change
in
terms
of
how
people
get
to
and
from
the
airport?
And
I
don't
think
we
really
know
the
answer
to
that.
Specifically,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
different,
though,
because
I
can
remember
arriving
in
salt
lake
to
interview
for
this
position,
paying
6.50
for
my
uber
from
the
airport
to
city
hall,
and
I
can
tell
you
it
doesn't
work
like
that
anymore.
I.
O
Just
so,
you
know
and
we're
looking
at
some
other
options.
I
did
mention
to
cindy
that
I
guess
there
are
no
veterans
here
of
the
taxi
wars,
we're
looking
at
the
possibility
of
doing
a
taxi
rfp,
because
taxis
may
be
one
of
the
additional
viable
options.
O
C
Slide
2019
question
from
councilmember
yeah.
I
just
want
to
quickly.
I
I
emailed
you
bill
a
while
ago
about
a
constituent
that
I
had
that
had
a
really
bad
experience
at
the
airport,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we
go
down
the
taxi
discussion,
this
is
taxi
not
really
budget
related,
but
that
that
the
taxi
drivers
that
were
there
were
saying,
like
sorry,
minimum
60
bucks
to
get
you
anywhere.
C
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
absolutely
enforcing
and
and
keeping
track
of
all
that,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
we
need
to
put
more
resources
towards
that
or
what,
but
that
definitely
happened.
Well,.
O
I
learned
only
after
I
accepted
this
position
that
the
airport
director
turns
out
to
be
the
grand
ground,
transportation
regulator
for
the
city,
and
I've
had
enough
experience
in
my
career
with
ground
transportation
to
know
how
unpleasant
a
role
that
is.
One
of
the
reasons
we're
thinking
about
a
taxi
rfp
is
that
almost
anybody
who
calls
themselves
a
taxi
can
be
one.
O
Now
we
have
very
limited
regulatory
authority,
so
we
would
make
this
all
part
of
an
rfp,
so
you'd
need
to
comply
with,
and
it's
not
just
fairs,
but
you
know
cleanliness,
I
mean
everything
related
to
the
the
vehicles
and
I'll
just
you
know
I,
when
I
was
telling
lisa
shaffer
that
we
were
thinking
about
this.
I
said
I've
got
five
things
for
you
today.
O
Two
of
them
are
really
unhappy,
and
this
was
one
of
them
because
it'll
be
contentious
to
be
honest,
but
I
really
think
the
time
may
be
right
to
to
do
this.
For
exactly
that
reason,
and
there
the
fears
are
completely
unregulated.
Q
Okay,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
in
2019
when
we
had
an
all-time
high,
the
non-aeronautical
revenue.
You
know
the
car
rentals,
the
parking,
the
food
and
beverage,
the
retail.
It
was
95
million,
we're
now
increasing
that
almost
30
million
coming
into
fiscal
year,
23
so
significant
increases.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
can
really
skip
over
it.
It's
another
pie
chart
of
kind
of
the
break
out
of
our
expenses.
Q
75
percent
of
that
is
directly
related
to
labor.
Now
some
of
those
are
airport
employees
with
the
four
and
a
half
percent
merit
increase.
Some
of
those
are
going
to
be
additional
positions
that
bill
had
talked
about.
We
were
getting
ready
to
open
the
new
facility.
We
thought
we
needed
them,
but
we
deferred
them.
Q
Those
are
not
airport
employees,
they
don't
have
benefits
through
the
airport,
but
we
actually
go
out
and
we
do
an
rfp
and
we,
you
know,
try
to
get
the
most
competitive
bid,
but
we
realize
that,
especially
with
these
entry-level
jobs,
it's
hard
to
maintain
them
with
the
tight
labor
markets.
We've
had
some
wage
increases,
so
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
it's
really
a
summary
of
how
do
we
get
to
this
bill
talked
about
these
77
positions.
Q
We
had
filled
38
last
year,
we're
looking
to
fill
another
35
and
a
half
of
the
35
and
a
half.
It's
important
to
note
that
16
of
these
are
brand
new
positions
at
the
airport.
If
you've
gone
through
the
airport,
you
know
we
have
the
state
of
the
art,
tsa
screening
equipment
and
instead
of
just
one
at
a
time,
there's
four
positions
for
each
lane,
and
normally
it's
tsa's
responsibility
to
staff
that
well
with
the
record
number
of
passengers.
Q
We
have
we're
trying
to
help
out
tsa
and
say
we
want
you
guys
to
be
behind
the
monitors,
trying
to
get
passengers
through
as
quickly
as
possible.
Let
us
do
the
traffic
flow,
and
so
we
approached
the
airlines.
We
said
this
is
really
your
responsibility.
Do
you
want
to
take
it
on
much
like
the
wheelchair
pushers?
Q
They
said?
Well,
how
much
would
it
cost
the
airport
to
do
it
versus
us
because
they're
having
the
same
challenges,
you
know
hiring
people
and
we
said
it's
going
to
be
more
expensive
because
there's
benefits
they're
airport
employees,
they're
government
employees-
and
you
know
when
we
told
them
what
that
was
going
to
cost.
You
know
total
it's
3.1
million
for
the
35
and
a
half.
So
it's
about
half
of
that
they
gave
us
the
green
light.
They
said.
Go
ahead,
hire
these.
We
need
to
make
that
call
right.
Q
Now
so
we
are
moving
forward
with
that
you're
going
to
see
that
police
and
fire
are
increasing
quite
a
bit
for
the
airport's
budget
and
talking
to
mary
beth
and
john
bike,
there
was
merit
increases
actually
for
both
police
and
fire,
but
these
were
all
being
funded
through
arpa
grants.
This
is
the
first
year
that
the
airport
is
being
asked
to
fund.
These
merit
increases
with
any
out
without
any
of
these
stimulus
funds,
so
this
is
really
just
the
cost
of
the
police
services
and
the
firefighting
services.
Q
O
Q
A
good
thing:
it
is
a
good
thing.
We
do
have
a
security
contract
for
a
lot
of
the
gates.
You
know
we
went
out
for
an
rfp,
and
this
is
just
what
the
market
price
told
us.
We
have
a
lot
of
new
systems
at
the
airport.
We
need
some
additional
con
consultants,
so
that's
1.1,
and
then
you
know
we
always
do
a
historical
average
of
snow
storms
and
how
much
chemicals-
and
I
will
say,
with
the
elevated
roadway,
we're
using
more
chemicals.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Over
those
passengers,
so
it's
a
good
news
story
for
the
airlines.
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
Q
Q
A
lot
of
this
is
new
equipment.
A
lot
of
it's
replacement
equipment
we're
very
much
like
the
city.
We
have
a
fleet
department,
they
analyze
it.
They
look
at
the
age
of
the
equipment,
how
much
mileage?
What's
the
repairs,
and
it
really
determines
this,
and
this
is
the
category
where
the
airlines
really
kind
of
scrutinize
it
because
they
have
to
pay
for
all
of
this
equipment.
So
this
has
gone
through
them
and
they
did
not
have
any
changes
or
recommendations
for
capital
equipment.
K
O
Like
the
biggest
most
expensive
one,
there
is
the
firefighting
vehicle,
the
foam
truck,
those
have
basically
a
standard
operating
life,
and
you
know
the
weird
thing
about
airport
firefighting
is
the
one
thing
they
almost
never
do
is
fight
a
fire.
What
they
do
do
is
train
train,
train
train,
and
so
these
vehicles
get
a
tremendous
amount
of
use,
in
addition
to
which,
if
you're
all
familiar
with
this
subject,
these
foam
trucks
are
currently
using
a
foam
that
is
a
it
is
prohibited
for
use
in
any
other
way.
O
They
have
now
identified
an
alternative
that
we'll
be
getting,
and
it's
going
to
cost
us
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
truck
to
clean
them
out
and
use
this
new
firefighting
foam
the
rubber
removal
vehicles.
So
imagine
this.
Every
plane
lands
in
essentially
the
same
spot
on
the
runway
and
they
lose
because
the
wheel's
not
turning
at
the
time
they
they
hit
the
runway.
O
The
amount
of
rubber
that
is
collected
there
is
just
immense,
and
this
will
help
us
clean
the
runways
more
quickly
because
the
airlines
hate
it
when
we
have
to
close
a
runway
for
rubber
removal
or
anything
else.
So
it's
just
all
about
that,
but
we
do.
We
have
a
great
maintenance
department,
we're
looking
for
fleet
mechanics.
Q
And
I
would
add,
you're
not
really
seeing
it
on
these
big
capital
purchases,
but
a
lot
of
the
other
equipment,
we're
buying
they're
hybrids
or
they're
electric.
You
know
we're
investing
in
the
infrastructure,
so
we
can
make
them
clean
energy
vehicles
out
at
the
airport,
so
we're
definitely
have
an
eye
and
a
focus
towards
that
going
forward.
Q
Q
This
kind
of
gives
you
the
pie
chart
of
the
funding
sources.
We
have
a
grant
from
the
faa
for
four
and
a
half
million
for
some
taxiways,
the
rest
of
it's
all,
being
funded
out
of
airport
cash,
that
hundred
million
that
we're
generating
and
then
on
the
right
hand,
side.
It
kind
of
shows
you.
Where
are
we
putting
those
projects,
whether
it's
in
the
airfield
it's
at
the
terminal,
if
we're
investing
in
kind
of
our
west,
jordan
tooele
airports?
Q
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
these
are
just
the
different
categories
and
it's
the
high
level
projects
that
we're
looking
to
do
bill
talked
that
we're
out
of
space
at
the
airport.
We've
actually
kicked
a
lot
of
our
maintenance
departments,
our
blue
collar
carpenters,
painters,
delta,
says
we
need
that
space
and
so
we've
kind
of
asked
our
maintenance
folks
to
kind
of
find
a
new
home
and
the
reality
is,
is
we
don't
have
a
home
for
them?
So
we're
going
to
be
building
space?
Q
That's
currently
unenclosed
out
on
concourse
b,
it's
about
five
and
a
half
million,
but
it's
really
so
we
can
satisfy
that
the
demands
of
the
airline
partners,
the
concessions
that
need
that
space
just
as
much
as
the
airport.
As
far
as
airfield
projects,
we
have
some
taxiway
reconstructions
taxi
lanes.
Q
We
are
going
to
be
investing
in
electrical
and
communication,
duct
bank
from
the
airport
operations
center
to
the
gate.
Seven
we've
bought
a
lot
of
equipment.
It's
very
well
maintained
at
the
airport,
but
one
of
the
reasons
is
we
don't
leave
it
out
in
the
elements.
We
need
to
build
a
building
to
house
a
lot
of
that
and
with
cobid
we've
kind
of
deferred
this
project,
but
now
is
the
time
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
push
forward
with
that.
Q
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you'll
see
that
we
continue
on
the
land
side
to
invest
in
ev
charging
stations.
Now
this
is
in
our
economy
lot.
This
is
in
our
parking
garage,
but
these
are
also
for
airline
and
airport
charging
stations.
So
we
do
have
budget
for
that.
One
thing
that
we're
noticing
is
the
park
and
weight
loss
is
hard
for
people
to
find
there's
a
lot
of
landscaping
in
front
of
it.
Q
It's
not
intuitive
for
them
to
go
to
the
left
side,
we're
going
to
be
taking
out
that
landscaping
we're
going
to
be
expanding
it,
putting
more
lots
in
there,
making
it
more
accessible
kind
of
putting
better
signage
up,
so
people
can
locate
it
and
not
really
be
parking
on
the
roadways
as
it's
a
danger.
It's
also.
D
Q
O
For
this,
because
when
I
arrived
here,
the
that
plaza
area
was
just
being
constructed
and
you
know
my
predecessor
had
insisted
on
a
an
exit
that
would
allow
you
to
go
straight
out
onto
the
roadway
and
then
turn
left
and
the
all
the
traffic
engineers
said.
This
is
really
a
serious
problem,
because
you
cannot
get
up
to
speed
people.
I
mean
people
in
the
state
drive
really
fast.
O
That's
my
observation
as
an
out-of-stater
and
they
come
in
to
the
terminal
roadway
typically
at
about
80
miles
an
hour
and
by
the
time
they
get
to
that
location
they're,
maybe
at
50
or
so
so,
you'd
have
to
literally
punch
out
here,
turn
left
very
sharply
and
get
up
to
speed
before
you
get
whacked.
So
we
decided
to
close
that
and
that's
why
you
have
to
drive
all
the
way
around
part
of
it
is
it's
on
the
inside?
It's
not
on
the
outside.
O
If
it
were
on
the
outside,
it
would
have
made
all
the
difference
in
the
world,
but
there's
really
no
way
to
do
that,
because
the
trax
line
sort
of
cuts
that
off
and
it's
it's
a
challenge.
B
Sorry,
I
was
just
unmuting
well,
first
off
bill,
you
know
how
much
I
love
you
in
the
airport
yesterday
and
still
we're
the
best
airport
in
the
country.
But
I
do
want
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
this
whole
parking
thing
and
how
we
are
having
cars
maneuver
through
the
airport
and
also
how
we're
having
planes
maneuver
through
the
airport
and
the
idea
that
I
mean
billy.
B
R
Us
I
believe
soon
what.
B
B
O
So
several
thoughts
on
this
first,
we
do,
you
know
we
have
the
tracks.
Well,
let
me
just
start
with
this.
If
the
airport
were
located
in
downtown
salt
lake
transit
access
to
the
airport
would
be
perfect,
because
the
entire
transit
infrastructure
of
the
wasatch
front
is
focused
on
the
urban
centers.
O
So
we
have
badged,
employ
15,
000,
badged
employees
and
looked
at
where
they
lived
and
they
live
just
like
everybody
else,
all
over
the
place.
Some
have
great
transit
access
and
many
frankly
do
not.
And
finally,
the
the
real
challenge,
in
my
opinion,
is
when
thinking
about
transit
at
the
airport
most
people
are
focused
on.
I
think
the
wrong
thing,
the
right
audience
for
transit
are
convention
goers
because
they
arrive
here
and
that
tracks
line
is
going
to
take
them
exactly
where
they
need
to
go
and
it's
going
to
be
pretty
efficient.
O
On
the
other
hand,
if
we
all
walked
out
of
here
out
of
this
room
right
now
and
we're
going
to
go
to
the
airport
I'll
go
get
in
my
car
and
I'll
be
at
the
airport
in
12
minutes,
you'll
be
at
the
airport
in
about
an
hour.
If
you
go
on
tracks,
so
it's
not
just
a
function
of
of
access,
that's
important,
but
it's
also
one
of
convenience
and
for
employees.
O
You
know
our
concessionaires
trying
to
hire
people
walk
chefs,
18,
19
20
an
hour
we're
now
paying
cdl
shuttle
bus
drivers
22
an
hour
transit
may
just
not
be
an
option
for
them,
or
if
it
is
the
time
consideration
makes
it
kind
of
undesirable.
O
O
O
The
other
challenge
with
that,
of
course,
is
that
people
are
convinced,
there's
a
parking
spot
somewhere
and
they're
going
to
drive
around
until
they
find
it,
and
that's
what
you
find
as
you
get
more
crowded
on
the
surface
lots
you
find
that
in
the
garage
we
put
in
a
an
open
space,
identifying
system,
the
green
lights
and
the
the
red
lights,
which
is
very
successful.
You
can't
really
do
that
easily
for
for
surface
parking.
O
So
it's
a
subject
that
I'd
love
to
talk
more
with
you
about,
but
it's
a
very
important
one
because
it
will
become
it
already
is
actually
an
inhibition
to
airport
employment
because
you've
got
to
get
there.
Somehow
you
have
a
badge
and
you've
got
to
get
to
the
airport,
and
transit
is
great
if
you're
in
the
city
core.
It
may
not
be
so
great
if
you're
in
the
outlying
areas,
where
a
lot
of
the
airport's
total
workforce
happens
to
live.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
cut
the
conversation
on.
S
A
Our
sorry
councilmember
fowler,
I
we
need
to
move
on
with
the
discussion,
but
I
I
do.
I
agree
with
you
on
the
chance,
the
at
the
transit
side
of
the
house,
and
I
want
to
have
a
further
discussions
on
parking
and
transportation
in
transit,
because
that
is
a
a
big
issue
for
up
for
a
number
of
us
and
bigger
than
the
time
that
we
have
allotted
right
now.
So
good.
A
A
Well,
that's
good!
So
I'm
just
gonna
echo
what
councilman
fowler
said
about
parking
and
transit
and
working
with
uta
and
making
sure
we
do
a
better
job
of
getting
people
out
there
and
back
and
forth.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
also
I
guess,
we'll
probably
have
some
discussions
about
our
fuel
farm
at
some
time.
D
Real
quick
ask
pertaining
to
the
budget.
What
what
has
or
is
and
is
projected
to
be
used
for
all
that
number
of
like
arpa
and
all
those
federal
grants
was
astronomically
large.
So
like
what
are
we?
What
are
we
planning
to
do
with
all
that.
Q
So
the
first
three
grants
the
the
cares
act,
the
carissa
and
the
arpa.
They
were
really
meant
to
be
reimbursable
of
the
airport's
operating
expenses,
so
it
allowed
us
to
reduce
the
rates
and
charges
that
we
charged
the
airlines
and
it
also
helped
offset
for
some
of
the
lost
revenue
through
parking
and
rental
cars.
It's
really
this
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
that
follows
kind
of
all
of
the
faa
grant
assurances
you've
got
to
buy
america
and
you've
got
to
have
davis,
bacon
wages,
and
it's
really
for
airfield
projects.
Q
There
is
a
5
billion
pot
of
money
that
the
airport
submitted
a
grant
for
where
it's
actually
for
terminal
construction.
So
we
are
trying
to
get
federal
funding
to
continue
the
expansion
of
the
airport
and
we
will
get
a
fair
share
of
our
entitlements
for
that.
But
we're
trying
to
get
maybe
more
than
our
fair
share
and
those
funds
would
be
specifically
for
concourse
b.
O
That
was,
it
was
a
full
employment
thing
same
for
the
airlines
and
you
know,
but
for
that
we'd
be
we'd
all
be
in
a
real
world
of
hurt
because
trying
to
go
out-
and
you
know
re-employ-
all
of
these
folks-
would
have
been
very,
very
difficult
to
do
so.
That's.
C
O
O
A
E
Mr
chair,
the
department
of
public
utilities,
fy
23
budget,
is
ready
for
presentation
to
the
city
council
revenues
this
year
projected
at
approximately
413
million
compared
to
last
year's
amended
budget
total
of
420
million,
the
wiffy
alone,
proceeds
from
the
federal
government,
a
total
close
to
126
million
dollars,
and
that's
for
context
as
a
financing,
a
revenue
source
that
the
city
can
use
at
a
low
cost
of
the
taxpayers
to
build
the
water
reclamation
facility,
which
is
the
massive
infrastructure
project.
E
That's
kind
of
on
the
both
on
the
horizon
a
little
bit
behind
us,
but
mostly
still
ahead
of
us
to
the
tune
of
800
million
dollars.
In
total,
approximately
a
couple
of
other
notes
on
the
topic
of
the
utilities.
The
mayor's
recommended
budget
proposes
a
15
rate
increase
and
three
of
the
four
utilities:
the
water
sewer
and
storm
water
utilities.
E
S
Thank
you
and
it's
great
to
be
here
in
person,
so
I
think
our
last
two
budget
presentations
were
online,
so
it's
really
good
to
see
all
of
you
before.
I
start
I
want
to
introduce
our
project
team
and
even
before
I
introduced
them,
I
wanted
to
do
a
special
call
out
to
the
chair
of
our
public
utilities,
advisory
committee,
roger
player,
who's.
L
S
And
I
think
we
have
ted
wilson,
a
past
chair
and
member
of
our
advisory
committee
online
as
well
as
catherine
floor,
one
of
our
newest
advisory
committee,
members
that
I
think
you
appointed
a
couple
weeks
ago
so
anyway
they're
great
and
then
we
may
have
other
advisory
committee
members
online,
but
I
point
them
out
because
they
really
help
us
prepare
our
budget.
In
january
we
start
bi-weekly
meetings
with
our
advisory
committee,
a
subset
of
our
advisory
committee,
which
are
open
to
the
public
and
we
go
through
each
of
the
funds
we
go
through.
S
S
Divisions
and
marion
is
over
our
water
quality.
Both
the
safe
drinking
water
act
and
clean
water
act,
parts
watershed
and
street
lighting,
so
they
both
have
very
large
jobs,
and
then
we
have
online
jason
brown.
Our
chief
engineer,
who
manages
all
of
the
engineering
and
engineering
technician
folks
on
all
of
our
water
sewer,
storm
water
projects
across
the
department.
S
So
a
lot
of
capital
improvement
program
work
and
then
we
have
received
questions
and
feedback
from
the
community,
and
I
think
some
council
members
regarding
federal
grants
and
and
federal
resources
that
that
might
be
coming
available
to
us
in
order
to
help
with
our
large-scale
aging
infrastructure
projects.
S
That's
for
the
rebuild
of
the
city
creek
water
treatment
plant.
The
grant
is
for
over
30
million
for
about
a
52
million
dollar
project
and
then
we're
planning
on
applying
for
two
more
this
this
summer
for
other
projects.
So
we
are
actively
seeking
financing
opportunities
with
the
federal
funding.
So
next
slide.
Please.
S
Salt
lake
city,
public
utilities,
mission
and
services,
as
you
know,
we
have
the
four
separate
utility
enterprises
and
the
drinking
water
utility
is
quite
vast,
covering
about
141
square
miles
in
service
area,
190
square
miles
in
watershed
area
that
we
proactively
manage
for
source
water
protection
serving
about
360
000
people
across
the
service
area.
Then
we
have
our
wastewater
utility,
which
is
comprised
of
our
collection
system
and
treatment.
Plant
that's
been
mentioned
is
being
rebuilt.
S
Stormwater
is
our
minister.
We
operate
under
a
municipal,
separate
storm
sewer
system
permit
with
the
state
or
ms4
permit,
and
operate
lift
stations
and
conveyances,
as
well
as
some
of
the
natural
infrastructure
associated
with
that,
and
then,
of
course,
the
street
lighting
utility,
which
is
base
lighting
and
enhanced
street
lighting.
S
S
Water
stewardship
is
also
a
big
piece,
as
sam
mentioned,
the
watershed
management
plan
is
ongoing.
That's
a
very
large
engagement
effort
and
a
very
important
plan
that
informs
important
policy
for
the
city
and
then,
of
course,
regulatory
programs.
I'd
like
to
specifically
call
out
that
the
update
to
the
federal
lead
and
copper
rule
and
our
new
stormwater
ms4
permit
has
created
the
need
to
increase
some
operations
in
some
areas
and
address
programmatic
elements,
and
then,
of
course,
all
of
the
rest.
S
You
know
operations
and
maintenance,
the
financial
health
of
the
utility
in
the
long
term,
sustainability
is
embedded
in
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
then,
of
course,
employee
well-being.
It
was
mentioned
earlier.
The
new
compensation
study,
as
well
as
the
cost
of
living
increases,
are
built
into
this
budget
next
slide.
Please.
S
S
Next
slide,
please
so
we're
going
to
start
getting
into
the
numbers
here.
So
this
is
our
total
public
utilities
budget
across
all
four
utilities,
and
I
probably
need
to
put
on
my
glasses,
because
I
can't
read
my
notes
so
yeah.
So
this
just
kind
of
outlines.
The
overall
revenues
rate
increases
for
water,
storm
water
and
sewer
utilities
of
15.
As
sam
mentioned,
you
can
see
that
our
capital
improvement
program
is
again
the
large
part
of
our
budget.
S
S
These
employees
are
meant
to
bolster
our
safety
program
as
well
as
our
lead
and
copper
compliance
with
the
new
lead
and
copper
rule,
and
that's
that
particular
program
is
about
three
employees
with
gis
being
a
big
component
of
that,
as
well
as
water
quality
technicians.
S
S
S
S
Next
slide,
please
and
here's
some
detail
on
the
sewer
utility
budget
and
again
our
sewer
fees
and
wifi
alone
comprise
most
of
the
revenue
sources
that
we're
using
and
that
wiffy
alone
is
really
dedicated
to
the
water
reclamation
facility.
S
S
The
photos
that
you
see
here
are
the
top
top
one
is
the
pilings
for
the
new
ultraviolet
building
for
the
treatment
process
and
the
bottom
one
is
the
new
dewatering
building
that
will
deal
with
the
waste
sludge.
I
forgot
to
mention
on
the
water
utility
slide.
You
might
have
seen
a
photo
of
mountain
dew
dam
under
construction,
which
was
completed
in
1914
and
on
another
slide
you
saw,
I
think
you
saw
the
city
creek
water
treatment
plant
back
in
the
1950s
I
put
in
some
of
these
old
photos.
S
S
Anyway,
next
slide,
please
storm
water
utility
budget,
pretty
similar
to
last
year's
budget,
we're
still
working
on
some
capital
improvements
still
participating
in
road
bond
projects
as
part
of
that
budget
and
again,
a
15
rate
increase
is
proposed
there.
The
capital
improvement
program
for
storm
water
is
mainly
collection,
mains
and
lift
stations.
S
We
do
have
a
riparian
project
involved
in
this
and
it's
the
immigration
creek
outlet
at
1700
south,
so
making
sure
that,
what's
going
into
immigration
creek,
there
is
good
water
quality
and
on
stormwater
the
operations
is
about
9.78
million
too.
So
it's
also
a
pretty
operations
intensive
utility
the
photo.
S
There
is
jordan
river,
as
it
goes
through
salt
lake
city,
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
city's
storm
water
gets
discharged
and
that
water
body
is
impaired
under
the
state,
water
quality
act,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
on
in
our
department
and
in
other
agencies.
In
order
to
address
that
impairment
and
the
impairment
is
dissolved,
oxygen
and
e
coli.
S
So
this
is
a
photo
of
lake
blanche
up
in
big
cottonwood
canyon,
one
of
my
favorite
places
it's
beautiful
and
part
of
our
protected
watershed
and
part
of
the
area
that
we
are
working
on
on
our
master
plan
for
the
watershed
management
plan.
S
So
you
know
one
of
the
strategies
and
and
really
a
main
principle
when
setting
water
and
sewer
and
storm
water
rates
in
particular
is
that
we
have
some
that
our
community
has
rate
reliability
so
that
we're
not
jumping
around
in
you
know
large
percentage
increases
or
and
or
no
percentage
increase,
so
that
there's
some
reliability
on
a
year-to-year
basis
that
our
community
members
can
adjust
to.
S
Also
to
note,
in
fiscal
year
2021,
we
actually
adjusted
our
rate
increase
schedule
that
had
been
previously
planned
in
light
of
the
pandemic
and
some
of
the
economic
uncertainties
there
and
we
did
not
propose
rate
increases
in
water
or
storm
water
or
street
lighting.
We
kept
the
sewer
rate,
sewer
utility
rate
increase
in
large
part
due
to
the
amount
of
debt
and
bonding
that
we
have
on
that
project,
and
so,
as
we
move
forward
fiscal
year,
2022
fiscal
year,
2023
we're
kind
of
catching
up
from
that
planned
rate
increase
schedule
next
slide.
S
Please,
and
then
that
brings
us
to
our
projected
five-year
rate
adjustments
again,
trying
to
keep
the
schedule
of
ensuring
that
we
have
the
right
financial
strategy
in
place
to
accomplish
things
like
treatment
plant
replacements,
which
you
know
are
quite
costly,
so
you'll
see
that
each
of
the
utilities
we've
projected
a
rate
increase
based
on
this.
It's
really
based
on
the
current,
the
current
cip
and
operational
projections.
S
Next
slide,
please,
the
next
few
slides
kind
of
just
give
an
example
of
what
we
are
communicating
to
the
public
in
terms
of
the
monthly
impacts
of
rate
increases,
comparing
sort
of
example,
customers
that
are
based
on
water
use,
low,
medium
or
high
water
use
for
water
and
sewer,
along
with
the
the
the
fixed
fee.
That
goes
along
with
those
those
bills
and
trying
to
give
the
sense
of
sort
of
what.
What
those
increases
look
like,
depending
on
the
profile
of
the
customer.
S
S
So
on
the
next
slide,
we
have
a
water
rate,
comparison
with
nearby
states
and
the
yellow
highlighted
comparison
is
the
current
rate,
and
then
the
blue
highlighted
is
the
proposed
rate
and
you
can
see
compared
to
areas
like
flagstaff,
cheyenne,
boise,
denver,
reno
las
vegas,
that
you
know
we're
we're
lower
than
them.
There's
a
lot
of
similarity
in
our
rates,
too
so
looks
like
we're
doing
well
there
and
then
on
the
next
slide.
S
We
have
two
comparisons
here,
because
our
water
rates
are
different
for
the
areas
that
we
serve
outside
of
city
boundaries
and
then
the
areas
that
we
serve
inside
of
city
boundaries.
S
One
thing
I'll
note
on
this
slide
and
a
couple
of
others
that
I'll
show
you
is
sometimes
the
rate.
Comparisons
are
a
little
difficult
when
we're
comparing
against
sewer
and
water
districts,
because
sewer
and
water
districts
receive
property
tax
revenue
which
aren't
shown
in
the
bill
that
the
customer
receives
so
we're
not
necessarily
capturing
the
whole
water
cost
of
those
particular
entities
when
we
do
that
comparison
for
for
ours,
if
that
makes
sense
next
slide,
please.
S
K
A
quick
question
too,
mr
chair,
so
as
far
as
treatment
facilities
for
sewage
cities
of
salt
lake,
like
some
of
these
cities
are
very
small,
do
they
have
their
own
treatment
facilities
or
their
contract?
Some
other
entity.
S
K
S
No,
and
in
fact
city
policy
has
been
to
encourage
annexation
if
anybody
else
wants
to
hook
on
to
that
so
yeah.
S
Okay,
so
sewer
rate
comparisons
with
nearby
states.
You
can
see
that
we're
starting
sort
of
inching
higher
on
that
comparison.
Those
are
the
same
states
we
compared
to
with
the
water
rates
as
well,
and
one
caveat
with
that.
Is
we
don't
know
what
these
other
entities
are?
S
Are
planning
in
their
proposed
fiscal
year,
23
budgets
yet
either
so
that
that
could
change,
or
we
might
be
a
little
bit
behind
on
the
comparison
there
and
then
the
next
slide
sewer
rate
com
rates
compared
with
local
cities
and
districts
again
we're
on
the
high
side
in
those
comparisons.
But
if
you
look
at
all
of
the
districts
that
we're
higher
than
again,
it's
that
same
situation
where
we
might
not
be
capturing
the
full
cost
to
the
community,
because
they
do
levy
property
taxes
for
that
service.
S
So
we
also,
we
use
a
lot
of
metrics
when
we
look
at
rates
and
rate
setting,
and
this
metric
compares
combined
water
and
wastewater
costs
compared
to
the
percent
median
household
income.
That's
kind
of
a
standardized
comparison,
that's
found
in
the
clean
water
act,
which
is,
which
is
why
we
use
it,
and
on
this
particular
comparison,
you
can
see
that
our
proposed
rates
are
a
little
under
one
percent
of
median
household
income
for
our
area
and
that's
really
good.
S
K
I
do
so.
This
is
also
one
of
those
questions
that
I
might
you
know
it
might
trigger
a
small
group
meeting,
but
I
mentioned
this
to
staff
before,
but
I
learned
that
there
are
parts
of
our
city
that
are
no
service
by
sewage
and
there
is
some
of
those
in
my
district
near
the
jordan
river
trail
and
you
know,
are
there?
Is
there
any
map?
You
know
that
shows
us
the
areas
that
are
now
serviced
and
those
people
are
using
the
older.
K
You
know
tank
whatever
you
call
that
septic
tank
and-
and
you
know,
is
there
any
way
to
are
there
any
funds
available
to
hook
them
up?
So
that's
one
of
the
questions
I
have.
S
S
Yeah
some
are
old.
Some
may
have
challenges
in
terms
of
sewage,
just
engineering
challenges
as
well,
and
I
I
think
I
can
think
of
one
particular
one
that
we've
been
working
on.
I
think
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
a
feasibility
study
to
get
that
community
online.
We
do
typically
require
that
development
pays
for
development.
So
if
this
is
being
triggered
by
a
new
development
project,
then
then
that
development
pays
for
development.
S
However,
you
know
when
we
have
areas
that
are
like,
like
this
particular
area,
I'm
thinking
of
that's
closer
to
the
jordan
river.
There
are
some
water
quality
concerns,
so
you
know,
as
a
city
will
have
to
balance.
You
know
where
city
funding
is
appropriate
and
where
individual
or
private
developer
funding
is
appropriate.
K
Yeah
and-
and
the
last
very
quick
question
is
when
is
that
the
sewage
treatment
plant
is
planning
to
open,
I
mean
we,
we
have
heard
so
much
about
smell,
and
we
talked
about
this
some
of
those
big
ponds.
There
are
no
the
fun
kind
of
ponds
that
are
open
up
north
over
there.
I'm
sure
that
you
know
there
will
be
some
neighbors
in
the
north
part
of
the
or
the
west
side,
and
north
part
of
the
city
will
be
very
happy
when
that
is
working.
Yeah.
S
A
D
Thanks,
I
appreciate
the
presentation
I
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question:
that's
kind
of
dumb
and
I
know
the
answer,
but
just
trying
to
think
outside
the
box
a
little
bit
I
I
hate
to
raise.
I
mean
I
think
it's
our
job
to
be
careful
about
raising
rates.
Obviously
there
are
some
capital
improvement
needs
that
we
cannot
that
we
must
respond
to
and
that's
going
to
require
additional
rates.
D
But
I'm
just
wondering
if
there,
the
one
rate
that
I
like
am
sort
of
not
worried
about
raising
is
the
water
rate,
because
I
think
the
more
water
costs
the
less
we
use-
and
I
there's
so
many
environmental
reasons
why
we
need
to
conserve
water.
So
that's
like
the
one
rate
where
I'm
like
there's
a
silver
lining
to
raising
that
rate,
is
there
any
way
that
we
could
like
shift
the
cost
of
the
increased
sewer
onto
water
usage?
D
Obviously,
we'd
have
a
separate
rate
for
salt
lake
city
residents
as
as
opposed
to
the
outside
of
our
municipal
boundaries
because
of
the
jurisdictions,
but
some
way
to
kind
of
really
capture.
As
many
of
those
rate
increases
in
the
water
utility
and
not
the
others
as
possible,
would,
I
think,
lead
to
more
conservation.
S
So
all
there's
a
couple
of
things
I'll
say
to
that,
and
one
of
the
most
important
is
that
one
of
our
budget
proposals
here
is
to
conduct
an
update
of
our
rate
studies.
So
that's
a
comprehensive
look
at
water
sewer
and
storm
water
rates
and
how
the
cost
of
service
are
allocated.
S
There's
a
a
very
important
principle
and
rate
setting
surrounding
defensibility
of
the
rates
and
a
lot
of
standard
and
and
judicial
decisions
around
a
defensibility.
And
you
know,
one
of
the
things
we
don't
want
to
do
is
subsidize
one
enterprise
fund
with
another
that
probably
wouldn't
be
meeting
the
defensibility
standard.
S
It
reduces
their
sewer
bill
and
and
so
that
you
know
when
we
get
calls
to
our
customer
service
line
about
those
sewer
bills.
You
know
we.
We
definitely
mentioned
that,
but
that's
something
we
could
more
widely
make.
It
might
not
be
intuitive
all
the
time.
So
it
might
might
be
something
we
could
communicate
more
widely
and
with
the
rate
study.
A
Thank
you
laura.
I
have
one
more
question
on
the
the
budget
now
we're
looking
at
conserving
this
past
year.
We
served
we
saved
15
of
our
water.
Is
this
budget
or
20?
Thank
you.
That's
awesome.
Nice
work.
S
S
Yeah
and
maybe
lisa
can
speak
to
the
assumptions
that
were
made
on
the
the
rate
revenue
that
we'll
receive,
but
we
did
have
a
long
conversation
as
we
watched
the
forecasts
us
you
know
way
back
starting
in
december
and
starting
to
get
concerned
about
snowpack
and
some
of
the
heat
waves
that
we've
had
and
the
we
did.
We
did
include
conservation
as
part
of
the
revenue
picture,
but
lisa
do
you
want
to
add
any
more
about
that.
B
So
when
we
do
the
the
look
at
water
and
what
we
anticipate
for
water
rate
revenue,
we
don't
just
do
that
in
isolated,
short
time
frame.
We
go
back,
maybe
10
years
of
history
and
try
and
look
at
those
trends
and
those
ups
and
downs.
We
always
try
to
be
conservative.
It
served
us
well
so
far
in
fiscal
year,
22,
based
on
conditions
that
we're
aware
of
and
so
we're
not
taking
just
randomly
a
five-year
average
say
and
say
that's
going
to
be
what
we're
going
to
sell
and
if
we
raise
rates
x.
B
B
How
much
you
know
we're
selling
as
an
end
result
to
the
customers,
what
the
prediction
is
for
the
coming
year,
so
we
were
conservative
in
our
and
our
number
this
year
and
then,
if
we
look
at
maybe
what
we
modeled
in
some
future
years,
we
might
have
had
a
slight
uptick,
but
so
it's
it's
interesting.
It's
a
kind
of
a
catch-22.
B
B
A
S
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
great
feedback
on
all
things.
Water.
E
Welcome
to
another
episode
of
capital
city
news,
your
source
for
staying,
informed
and
engaged
with
salt
lake
city
government,
I'm
your
host
brian
young,
with
slc
tv.
On
our
episode
today,
I
spoke
with
joe
taylor
about
our
transportation
master
plan
update
our
history
minute
is
about
the
prairie
ship
liberty
and
the
first
living
traditions
festival,
but
before
we
get
to
those
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
our
legislative
update,
our
look
backs
our
look
ahead
and
we
have
the
return
of
our
road
construction
updates.
S
F
E
It
for
another
installment
of
capital
city
news-
remember.
The
best
way
to
stay
engaged
is
to
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You
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17.,
so
reporting
in
from
the
salt
lake
city
and
county
building,
I'm
brian
young.
E
Welcome
to
another
episode
of
capital
city
news,
your
source
for
staying,
informed
and
engaged
with
salt
lake
city
government,
I'm
your
host
brian
young,
with
slc
tv.
On
our
episode
today,
I
spoke
with
joe
taylor
about
our
transportation
master
plan
update
our
history
minute
is
about
the
prairie
ship
liberty
and
the
first
living
traditions
festival,
but
before
we
get
to
those
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
our
legislative
update,
our
look
backs
our
look
ahead
and
we
have
the
return
of
our
road
construction
updates.
S
I
A
And
welcome
to
the
limited
formal
meeting
for
this
april,
12
2022.,
if
you're
just
tuning
in
we
are
now
convened
for
a
limited,
formal
meeting,
which
means
this
is
not
a
standard
formal
meeting
and
there
is
no
general
comments
section
tonight.
The
agenda
has
two
business
items
regarding
two
joint
ceremonial
resolutions
with
mayor
mendenhall,
the
first
one
is
celebrating
the
150th
anniversary
of
the
cathedral
church
of
saint
mark,
and
the
second
is
the
recognition
of
april
12th
as
the
education
and
sharing
day
in
salt
lake
city.
A
A
L
Thank
you.
Well,
this
is
exciting,
whereas
say
mark's
cornerstone
was
set
in
1870.
L
C
A
B
A
A
Attendance
councilmember
fowler
is
absent
at
this
time.
I
am
a
yes
that
motion
passes
unanimously
with
councilmember
fowler
absent
tonight.
We
have
the
honor
of
joining
us
with
the
very
reverend
tyler
doherty,
the
dean
and
rector
of
the
cathedral
church
of
saint
mark's
and
the
reverend
holly
huff,
along
with
the
wardens
and
the
vestry
of
the
cathedral
church
of
saint
mark's.
A
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
rev
resolution
forward
with
us
and
thank
you
for
all
your
engagement
with
the
city,
the
very
reverend
I
invite
you
up
and
and
allow
you
to
have
a
few
moments
of.
G
Mayor
mendenhall
and
the
council
for
for
this
lovely
proclamation,
and
actually
since
bishop
tuttle
arrived
here
in
1867,
my
stagecoach
from
denver.
Q
Throughout
the
state-
and
it
was
the
archbishop
of
canterbury,
william
temple,
who
used
to
ride.
G
G
G
G
A
A
A
Our
last
business
assignment
is,
is
the
the
council
will
consider
adopting
a
joint
resolution
ceremony
resolution
with
mayor
manal
recognizing
april
12
as
the
education
and
sharing
day
in
salt
lake
city,
and
I'm
going
to
turn
the
time
over
to
council
member
victoria
pietro
to
read
the
resolution.
J
This
observance
falls
on
the
date
of
the
rebbe's
birth
and
2022
will
mark
120
years
since
his
birth
in
1902,
and
whereas
the
rebbe
lived,
a
life
devoted
to
education
and
the
improving
of
access
to
it.
He
believed
that
all
regardless
of
their
background,
were
deserving
of
an
education,
and
he
was
a
strong
advocate
for
the
promotion
of
fundamental
human
rights.
J
Education
is
critical
to
our
efforts
to
create
opportunity
and
improve
life
outcomes,
and
we
must
continue
to
empower
children
and
provide
the
resources
that
they
need
and
whereas,
as
we
work
together
across
different
organizations
and
sectors
through
partnership
and
collaboration,
we
can
carry
the
reba's
legacy
forward
by
continually
opening
up
doors
for
children
and
young
people
in
salt
lake
city
in
utah
and
beyond
that
they
may
step
into
a
brighter
future
for
themselves.
And
for
us
all.
A
A
And
I'm
a
yes
that
motion
passes
6-0
with
council
member
fowler
absent,
and
I
appreciate
all
in
attendance,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
rabbi
zippo
with
the
chabad
lubavitch
of
utah
who
has
joined
us
today.
I
would
like
to
give
you
a
few
minutes.
E
E
Done
on
short
notice
too,
I
might
add,
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
to
first
of
all
appreciate
the
council's
efforts
in
getting
this
proclamation
done.
E
We
we
work
with
various
government
entities
on
an
annual
basis
to
have
education
day
recognized
at
various
levels,
and
so
often
when
working
with
government,
you
ask
for
a
and
you
end
up
settling
for
b
and
when
we
reached
out
to
mary
mendenhall's
office,
instead
of
just
getting
the
mayor
to
do
it,
we
got
the
entire
council
at
all,
which
was
a
very
very
welcome
surprise,
and
so
this
was
usually
the
opposite
of
how
we
get
things
done
around
here.
So
I'm
very
grateful
to
the
entire
council.
E
I
got
back
to
salt
lake
city
just
earlier
this
afternoon.
Last
night
I
was
at
the
rebbe's
grave
in
queens,
with
thousands
of
others
who
were
marking
this
special
day,
and
I
spent
a
few
moments
in
conversation
with
my
colleagues
from
the
ukraine
who,
at
this
point
you
know
they
were
previously
serving
in
the
ukraine
and
for
a
great
many
of
them.
E
The
cities
that
they
had
served
for
decades
are
now
leveled
to
dust,
and
you
you
meet
ordinary
people,
and
you
hear
their
tales
of
just
superhuman
perseverance
and
spending
hours
and
hours
in
war
zones
to
make
sure
that
each
and
every
one
of
the
members
of
their
congregation
could
get
to
safety,
and
I
think,
on
a
certain
level,
you
hear
these
stories
and
you
feel
someone
inadequate.
You
know
I
barely
get
out
of
bed
on
time
this
morning.
E
You
know
what
have
I
done
to
contribute
in
the
world
around
me,
but
you
realize
that
was
really
the
rebels
message
to
each
and
every
one
of
us,
whether
we're
living
in
a
war
zone
or
we're
living
through
a
pandemic
or
we're
living
in
a
perfectly
normal
town.
During
a
perfectly
normal
day.
Each
of
us
has
the
opportunity
to
share
to
give
something
to
make
the
world
around
us
a
better
place,
and
I'm
grateful
that
the
council
has
taken
the
time
to
perpetuate
that
legacy
and
to
keep
that
idea
going.
So
thank
you.
A
S
B
A
J
A
Yes,
bowie,
yes,
warden
yeah,
yes,
and
I
and
I'm
a
yes.
That
motion
passes
five
to
zero
with
councilman
obama,
morrison
council,
member
fowler
absent
we'll
now
proceed
with
our
work
session
and
I
remember
seven
informational
on
the
redistricting
update
with
us
at
the
table.
We
have
ben
lutky
from
the
office
eric
and
eric.
A
That's
right,
ben!
It's
time
is
all
yours.
P
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
the
sixth
briefing
on
redistricting
that
the
council
has
had
a
follow-up
briefing
is
scheduled
for
next
tuesday
on
april
19th
and
there's
also
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
next
tuesday
evening.
As
a
reminder,
the
legal
deadline
for
the
council
to
adopt
the
new
redistricting
maps
is
may
10th.
P
P
All
of
the
commission
meetings
were
posted
on
the
city's
youtube
page.
If
anyone
wanted
to
take
a
look
last,
I
checked
they
had
about
100
views,
we've
been
doing
public
engagements
throughout
the
process
and
this
included
a
postcard
to
all
of
the
households
in
the
city
that
was
92
000
and
we
also
have
a
dedicated
web
page
for
redistricting.
P
P
We
didn't
have
any
public
comments
directly
to
the
commission,
which
follows
a
similar
pattern
to
10
years
ago,
where
the
public
was
watching,
but
they
really
stepped
up
their
comments
once
there
were
recommended
maps
for
them
to
react
to
now
the
six
maps
that
were
recommended
by
the
commission
to
the
council.
These
are
attachments
8
through
13.
P
P
P
P
This
table
has
the
names
of
the
maps
that
we'll
walk
through
next
and
I
wanted
to
quickly
touch
on
the
population
deviation
what
that
means
and
the
compactness
so
population
deviation.
It
takes
the
council
districts
with
the
lowest
population
and
the
highest
population,
and
it
shows
you
the
total
range
between
them.
So
for
the
first
one,
the
politely
compact
with
minimal
changes,
the
population
deviation
is
1400
and
that
is
4.9
as
a
rule
of
thumb
established
in
case
law.
We
do
not
want
to
go
beyond
10
and
a
lower
percentage
is
better
for
compactness.
P
This
is
a
mathematical
term
to
measure
how
tightly
or
how
dense
the
district
is.
The
percentages
they're
in
the
high
30s
and
the
low
40s,
which
might
seem
a
little
low
but
as
a
reference,
a
circle
is
perfectly
compact.
It
is
100
compact
we're
never
going
to
get
a
district
close
to
that,
especially
since
the
outer
city
limits.
We
can't
change
those
boundaries,
so
there's
a
certain
limitation
on
there.
Anything
in
the
the
40s
is
very
good.
P
K
G
Okay
is
this
on
okay,
sorry,
good
evening:
everyone,
my
name,
is
eric
kenny.
I
am
a
resident
of
district
five
and
was
one
of
the
the
selected
members
for
district
five.
So
thank
you
for
the
the
subcommittee
who
appointed
us
to
to
give
me
this
honor
it
was.
It
was
a.
It
was
a
wonderful,
exciting
process
to
do.
G
As
ben
said,
we
met
several
times
and
discussed
all
of
all
of
the
maps
and
all
the
changes
and
looked
at
the
demographics
and
really
tried
to
be
as
thoughtful
as
we
could
around
communities
of
interest,
maintaining
core
boundaries
within
within
the
current,
within
the
current,
with
the
current
boundaries,
sort
of
keeping
that
core
district
intact.
G
You'll
see
later
on
that
some
of
our
maps
are
very
different
from
the
current
from
the
current
maps,
and
some
of
that
is
and
we'll
talk
through
each
of
those.
But
some
of
those
is,
as
the
city
has
changed
in
the
last
10
years,
that
some
of
us
felt
that
the
the
the
sort
of
shifting
character
of
the
districts
have
changed
in
that
time
frame.
So
it
we
felt
it
made
sense
to
sort
of
shift
those
boundaries
a
little
bit
and
sometimes
knots
a
little
bit
but
yeah.
G
So
this
is
this
is
our
first
map
and
this
one
has
the
minimal
changes
which
was
which
basically
pulls
the
boundary
of
district.
Four
a
little
bit
east
about
two
to
four
blocks.
East,
I
think,
is,
is
essentially
hey.
Eric
yeah.
P
I
just
want
to
interject.
I
think
it
would
be
easier
if
I
don't
know
if
it's
taylor
or
scott,
if
you
could,
in
the
lower
left
corner
turn
on
the
current
city
council
district
boundaries,
because
that'll
show
us
what
areas
are
changing
and
then
zoom
in
to
district
four
thanks.
L
G
C
Thanks,
yes,
I
like
this
for
the
reasons
that
it
would
be
familiar
to
residents
they,
although
I
wonder
about
I've,
heard
from
some
residents
that
they
in
my
district,
that
having
that
little
section
of
rose
park,
cut
off
from
the
rest
of
rose
park,
that's
in
in
district
three
was
there
I'm
guessing,
there's
like
no
way
to
make
that
work,
so
the
yeah.
G
So
the
the
sliver
that
you're
talking
about
is
right
up
against
the
free,
the
freeway
yeah
and
the
the
commissioners
who
represented
that
area
very
much
advocated
to
keep
that
sliver
in
district
three,
because
it
is
in
a
lot
of
that
area
is
a
literal
wall
that
separates
that
from
rose
park.
So
it's
the
freeway,
because
it's
so
elevated
right
there
that
there
is
no
underpasses
or
very
few
points
of
passage
that
it
very
much
is
detached
from
the
district.
Oh
okay,
so
I
had
to
hear
that.
Thank
you.
G
J
P
And
the
the
links
to
all
the
maps
are
on
the
first
page
of
the
staff
report.
If
you
wanted
to
pull
it
up,
it
is
much
better
to
look
in
district
builder
than
the
pdfs,
because
in
district
builder
you
can
zoom
in
and
out
see
those
specific
streets
as
well
as
turn
on
and
off
the
current
district
boundaries
and
the
community
council
boundaries.
E
So
I'm
eric
lopez,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
redistricting
committee.
Again,
thank
you
for
having
me
and
and
letting
me
participate
in
this
honorable
thing.
I
really
enjoyed
it,
so
I'm
just
going
to
jump
right
into
it.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
a
radically
different
map
and
we
focused
a
lot
on
looking
at.
One
of
the
issues
that
we
tried
to
address
is
that
some
of
these
community
councils
straddled
three
different
districts.
E
This
map
does
not
solve
for
that,
but
it
is
something
I
want
to.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
it
is
something
that
we
did
take
into
consideration
and
it's
something
we
tried
to
address
a
little
bit
here
when
we
look
at
fair
park,
so
we
included
fair
park
in
district
2
and
it
only
a
little
bit
straddles
district
three,
but
the
majority
of
its
community
council
boundary
is
in
two
and
a
little
bit
in
one
and
a
little
bit
in
three.
E
So
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
overlay-
and
you
can
see
here
as
well
as
what
eric
mentioned
before-
is
that
we
kept
rose
park
on
the
west
side
of
the
freeway
and
again
allowed
district
3
to
kind
of
determine
that
as
a
as
a
good
boundary
point.
We
also
again
like
in
the
previous
map.
E
We
moved
district
two
over
a
few
blocks
into
district
four
to
kind
of
allow
for
that
shift,
and
I
think
you'll
also
notice
here
too
that
district,
four
and
five
are
a
little
bit
more
compact
and
in
yeah
in
that
kind
of
square
way.
E
It
would
yeah-
and
this
is
where
there's
to
be
a
map
later
on-
where
we
tried
to
keep
or-
and
we
can
see
that
as
a
good
counterpoint,
all
the
community
council.
So
if
we
were
to
keep
the
community
councils
together,
you
would
see
what
kind
of
map
we
were
constrained
to,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
trade-offs
in
trying
to
consider
the
way
that
we
had
to
compensate
for
district
2,
obviously,
and
had
to
pull
from
more
populous
areas
like
district
4..
Yeah
so
makes.
K
J
P
I
think
we
can
go
to
the
third
map.
This
one
is
titled
community
council
boundaries
and,
while
that's
being
pulled
up,
I
want
to
highlight
attachment.
14.
eight
of
the
community
councils
in
the
city
wrote
a
letter
to
the
commission
asking
them
to
respect
and
maintain
their
existing
self-identified
boundaries
as
community
organizations.
G
G
We
took
a
little
more
consideration
of
others
based
off
of
their
activity,
their
level
of
involvement,
so
we
sort
of
like
the
granary
district
as
a
whole.
We
kind
of
split
that
one
up,
but
we
kept
central,
ninth
and
ballpark
together
in
order
to
keep
those
and
the
same
with
you
know
as
much
as
possible.
We
kept
fair
park
and
the
issue
with
the
fair
park
region
and
that
rose
park.
Is
it's
really
really
population
dense?
G
G
Where
that,
where
the
koa
is,
there
is
a
lot
of
people
that
live
there,
there's
something
like
a
thousand
people
who
live
in
that
sort
of
small
area
that
if
we
were
to
shift
that
that's
technically
in
the
fair
park
community
council,
but
most
of
the
time
we
could
not
get
that
in
the
same
district
as
fair
park.
So
we
could.
We
use
the
river
as
the
boundary
and
that's
why
that
you
get
the
weird
horn
is
because
it
follows
the
river
up.
There.
C
One
a
concern
I
have
about
this
one
is
that
we
are.
We
have
two
west
side,
council
members
and
I'm
like
a
little
bit
of
a
west
side,
council
member-
and
this
would
take
away
the
any
of
the
east
side
spilling
over
at
all
onto
the
west
side,
which
I
think
to
me,
is
kind
of
the
opposite
of
what
we
want
to
do.
D
So
councilman
wharton,
that's
something
that
I
have
been
thinking
about
a
lot
as
well,
because
there's
one
map
that
has
me
representing
some
of
the
west
side,
which
I
think,
depending
on
how,
depending
on
the
council
members-
and
I
would
hope
that
I
know
that
you
are-
and
I
would
hope
that
I
would
be
as
well.
I
I
think
I
could
see
that
as
an
advantage
for
more
council
members
to
have
to
represent
to
get
to
represent
part
of
the
west
side,
because
then
we
would
be
more
in
tune
to
west
side
issues.
D
G
One
of
the
one
of
the
many
con
like
this
came
up
many
many
times
in
the
course
of
our
meetings.
Is
the
west
side
really
feels
that
their
boundary
is
the
railroad
tracks
like?
Basically,
that
is
where
they're
considering
like,
because
you
know
getting
from
the
west
side
to
the
east
side
can
be
an
effort
at
any
point.
G
If
the
train
decides
to
stop
because
you
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
13th
or
you
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
4th
or
all
the
way
up
to
6
north
in
order
to
cross
that
boundary.
If
the
train
stops
at
any
point
along
the
railroad
tracks,
so
they
like
the
west
side.
Commissioners
really
really
strongly
defended
that
the
the
freeway
sort
of
in
the
northern
part
and
the
railroad
track
sort
of
on
the
southern
portion,
and
we
tried
to
take
that
into
consideration
as
much
as
possible.
A
I
mean
on
this
on
this
one.
I
look
at
the
deviation
on
the
voter
side
and
this
has
got
the
largest
deviation,
but
I
also
think-
and
I
when
I
look
at
that-
I
think
it
wouldn't
be
too
hard
to
move
things
like
one
block
either
way
and
then
but
then
you
have
that
same
question
about
the
community
council
boundaries
and
I
know
from
my
district
in
district
seven.
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
and
where
people
actually
go
to
the
council
meetings.
G
So
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
other
considerations
that
we
have
to
consider
are
the
census
blocks
and
the
census
block
groups
and,
depending
on
the
size
of
those
like,
even
even
the
blocks,
can
shift
population
quite
a
bit.
So
you
know
we
and
that's.
The
smallest
unit
we
can
do
is
the
block
which
are
typically
about
a
like
a
two
by
two
block
sort
of
thing,
depending
on
the
area.
G
Some
of
them
are
much
much
bigger,
but
in
the
sort
of
core
of
downtown
they're,
typically,
two
to
three
blocks
by
like
two
to
three
blocks,
is
kind
of
the
size
of
those,
and
if
you
get
into
that
into
the
sort
of
urbanized
area
you're,
you
can
be
talking
600
people
that
live
in
those.
K
So
so
to
to
the
point
of
chris
warren
on
councilman
romano
about
you
know
having
more
council
members
representing
the
west
side.
I
love
this
idea
and
I
will
you
know,
I
think
you
know
have
zero
doubts
that
you
guys
will
be
amazing
representatives
of
the
west
side,
but
I
think
that
my
concern
with
some
of
that
is
future
consoles
and
historically
especially
when
you
have
some
cities,
for
example,
they
don't
have
council
districts
that
are
all
large.
K
What
happens
is
everybody
that
is
elected,
comes
from
affluent
in
in
our
city,
will
be
east
siders
and
they
will
never
come
from
the
west
side,
and
that
is
concerning
no
again
not
about
you
not
about
you
guys.
I
think
that
it
would
be
amazing
if
we
could
do
it
like
this
and
it
changes
when
we
are
gone.
But
my
concern
is
the
future,
because
this
is
going
to
be
with
us
for
10
years.
P
And
as
that's
being
pulled
up
I'll
just
mention
it
does
have
the
lowest
population
deviation
out
of
the
six
maps.
O
E
O
E
So
this
is
one
of
the
maps
that
I
think
is
trying
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
about
community
council
boundaries
straddling
three
different
districts.
If
we
were
to
overlay
the
current
city,
sorry,
community
council
map
you'll
see
that
district
sorry
fair
park
is
completely
within
district
two
and
a
little
bit
in
one.
If
I
remember
that
map
correctly,
it's
district
four,
oh
district,
four.
G
E
Yeah,
so
it
really
is
trying
to
take
into
consideration
better
representation
for
that
small
area
that
tends
to
always
kind
of
go
over
three:
three
different
community
councils.
You
also
notice
too,
that
we
really
we
we
gave
rose
park,
a
bigger
slice
by
population,
but
between
densities,
it's
more
in
favor
of
district
two
and
then
we
kind
of
reshaped
everything
following
the
natural
boundary
line
of
the
jordan
river
kind
of
going
up.
E
G
I
feel
a
lot
more
akin
to
those
west
side,
new
condos
and
apartments
than
I
do
to
liberty
park.
But
presently,
I'm
in
the
same
council
district
as
somebody
who
lives
at
1300
east-
and
you
know
900
south,
essentially,
whereas
I
feel
based
as
a
renter
living
in
an
apartment
in
a
high
density
area,
that
you
know
all
of
those
apartments
along
the
west
side
that
are
being
built
like
that's
much
more
in
sort
of
character
of
the
neighborhood
that
I
live
in
going
north,
and
that
was
one
of
the
considerations
that
we
took
in.
G
D
So
this
is
an
interesting
map.
I
think
every
district
me
up
at
whatever.
No,
I
I
think
I
mean
I
think
it's
the
same
discussion
as
with
the
east-west
discussion.
Is
it
best
to
sort
of
keep
the
city
council
boundaries
as
like
consistent
like
keep
the
issues
as
consistent
within
the
district?
So
because
I
I
kind
of
agree
that
central
ninth
ballpark,
probably
in
some
ways,
has
a
lot
more
in
common
with
downtown
central
city
than
it
does
with
liberty,
wells
and
alpco.
D
C
I,
like
the
points
that
you're
that
you're
raising,
and
I
also
like
the
idea
of
thinking
about
things
differently,
but
I
don't
like
either
this
map
or
map02,
because
they
both
split
marmalade
in
half
and
that's
you
know
the
second
oldest
neighborhood
in
the
city.
I
know
a
lot
of
residents
would
be
really
really
unhappy
with
both
of
those
maps,
so
I
I
don't
care
for
either
of
them
for
for
district
three
purposes.
C
J
A
C
G
O
T
D
C
D
C
C
P
Council
members
may
have
noticed
some
of
the
maps
have
quite
entertaining
names,
so
the
final
map
that
is
selected-
maybe
there
will
be
a
funny
name
that
you
can
put
on
it.
G
You
know,
and
I
mean
we
were-
we
were
chartered
when
we
when
we
first
had
our
first
meeting
we
were
going
over.
Our
guidelines
is
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
asked
about
was,
and
we
were,
we
were
told
by
ben
and
staff-
is
that
we
were
not
to
know
where
you
guys
live,
and
so
we
didn't
have
any
of
that.
G
Consideration
like
I
know
where
darren
lives,
because
he
lives
around
the
corner
from
me,
but
you
know,
but
you
know
otherwise,
like
you
know,
we
didn't
take
that
into
consideration
and
where
people
presently
live.
K
P
G
Okay,
the
chair
has
told
me
that
I
can
continue
speaking
on
the
map,
so
I
love
I
love
maps.
Just
a
little
aside,
I
was
a
geographer
map
maker
in
a
former
life,
so
it
was
like
when
I
got
selected
this
question.
I'm
like
yes.
K
You
you
know
that
all
the
mobs
that
you
made
are
public
cracks,
so
we
saw
them
they're.
Oh.
K
G
Yeah
there
was
definitely
a
handful
of
maps
that
people
had
started
that
you
know
never
got
considered.
It
was
like
you
know,
because
the
city
councils
are
blank
or
stuff
like
that,
but
yeah
we,
we
went
through
literally
every
map
that
got
submitted
and
determined
sort
of
kind
of
ranked
it
within
the
commission.
G
G
But
the
big
difference
is
is
that
we
compacted
district
two,
two
really
into
that
fair
park
area
just
west
of
the
freeway
and
then
district
one,
as
you
can
see,
basically
got
everything
else.
G
But
those
are
the
those
those
are
the
biggest
changes
that
we
have.
So
this
is
the
you
know:
council
member
mono
mentioned
the
sorry.
I
called
you
by
your
first
name,
and
that
was
improper
of
me,
that
you
know
that
this
is
the
map
that
pushes
his
district
all
the
way
over
into
the
west
side.
P
I
think
we're
on
to
the
last
map.
Then
it
is
aptly
named
something
totally
different.
E
D
P
J
G
So
this
one
this
one,
you
notice
that
we
have
sort
of
really
compacted
district
two
into
fair
park
and
rose
park
and
the
other
changes
are
shifting
district,
four,
more
sort
of
more
to
that
central
city
area
and
then
more
lateral,
and
it
does
include.
I
think
it
goes
all
the
way
up
to
700
east
sort
of
on
that
southern
portion,
but
like
on
the
it's
like
fourth
east
sort
of
on
that
northern
portion.
G
So
it's
like
and
then
district
five
goes
down
into
the
sugar
house,
the
west,
the
west
of
sugar
house
area
district
six
would
be
entirely
the
university
district
plus
down
into
the
central
portion
all
the
way
to
seventh
east
10th
east
somewhere.
It's
somewhere
in
that
region
and
then
district
seven
would
be.
You
know
where
it
is
and
that
that's
that
darker
blue.
A
D
A
C
It
is
very
fascinating,
though
I
I
made
the
mistake
of
looking
at
these
last
night
at
like
10
30,
when.
A
Well,
this
this
gives
us
a
lot
to
ponder,
and
I
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
yesterday
doing
that
and
then
I
I
thought
I
had
the
maps
correctly
in
my
head.
Then
I
would
start
thinking
about
one.
Then
I
was
like
confused
because
I'd
have
you
know
three
different
maps
in
my
head.
Trying
to
you
know,
adjust
them
all
differently,
and
so
it
was
a.
It
was
a
great
puzzle.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
think
I
could
do
that.
No,
so
I,
but
I
appreciate
all
the
definitely
a
lot
of
the
energy
and
the
engagement
you
went
into
to
bring
up
these
maps.
This
is
fantastic
work
and
I
think
the
city
should
be.
You
know
applaud
you
for
the
effort
here
and
and
the
engagement
and
now
the
seven
of
us
get
to
ponder
it
some
more
and
then
see
what
we
come
up
with
so
appreciate
that
very
much.
P
One
one
thing,
mr
chair:
if
you
liked
any
of
these
maps
as
a
starting
point,
but
maybe
you
wanted
to
make
some
tweaks,
oh
scott,
can
you
put
the
map
back
up
on
the
screen
for
a
second
in
the
the
upper
right
corner?
There
is
a
copy,
this
map
button
and
it'll
copy
it
to
your
account
on
district
builder,
and
then
you
can
make
adjustments
from
there.
So
that's
often
a
quick
shortcut
if
you
saw
something
that
you
want
you
liked
and
wanted
to
work
with.
A
Okay,
great
because
I
was
just
hovering
with
the
the
block
and
going
okay,
I'm
going
to
add
1500
people
to
this
group
and
and
then
that
just
exploded.
My
brain
yeah
yeah.
G
C
I
just
have
to
ask
this
because
this
was
like
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
so
much
about
is,
if
you
zero,
in,
where
district,
four
and
district
three,
where
that
boundary
is
in
this
map.
In
this
map
yeah,
you
put,
you
took
temple
square
and
the
like
the
the
church,
library
and
and
museum,
and
then
a
parking
lot,
and
I
was
like
why
would
they
do
that?
No
one
lives
on
those
three
blocks.
G
It
was
just
trying
to
stay
consistent
with
the
boundaries
and-
and
you
would
be
surprised
that
in
some
of
those
there's
actually
a
handful
of
people
that
live
there,
and
so
it
you
know
it,
it
can
push
it
one
way
or
the
other,
especially
if
we're
sort
of
up
the
margins
of
the
of
the
of
the
five
percent
that
we
allotted
of
the
five
percent
of
the
ideal
number
that
like
60
people,
could
literally
make
the
difference
of
whether
or
not
it
was
within
the
five
percent
or
not.
I
was.
A
A
A
P
I
I
think
half
the
commission
was
listening
tonight,
mr
chair,
so
I
think
they
heard
you.
A
We
will
now
move
on
to
item
number.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
right.
Item
number,
eight
ordinance
on
the
economic
development
involving
the
loan
fund
of
the
current
exchange
at
1159,
south
rich
third
street
allison
rowland
from
the
county
off
council.
I
Yes,
I
didn't
realize
that
ben
colander
would
be
back
from
yeah
from
his
leave,
but
he's
here
as
well.
So
this
there
are
actually
two
items
on
edlf
economic
development
fund
loan
fund
loans,
but
I'll
give
a
little
introduction.
I
That's
meant
overall
for
both
of
them,
since
it's
a
new
process
for
the
council
and
then
roberta
is
going
to
talk
more,
I
believe
about
the
edlf
in
general,
so
this
is
part
of
a
move
for
the
council
to
take
a
larger
role
in
the
loans
that
are
being
offered
by
the
city's
economic
development
loan
fund.
I
This
is,
as
you
can
tell
administered
by
the
department
of
economic
development,
and
tonight
you'll
hear
about
the
first
two
loans
to
go
through
this
new
process.
The
attorney's
office
has
determined
that
an
ordinance
will
need
to
be
used
to
formalize
each
loan,
so
there
will
be
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
these
on
the
april.
I
19Th
meeting,
I
think
roberta
can
can
cover
the
rest
as
well
as
lorena
and
ben
if
needed,
and
there
are
just
some
policy
questions
in
that
are
the
same
for
both
of
the
two
loans
we're
considering
or
you're
considering
tonight.
So
I
believe,
that's
it
go
on
ahead.
Liberty,
okay,.
B
We
are
a
lender
of
last
resort
and
I
would
say
that
in
the
last
couple
years
there's
been
a
lot
of
other
opportunities
for
many
businesses
to
access
capital
at
a
lower
rate
than
we
can
off.
Then
we
can
offer
them,
but
still
this
is
a
great
tool
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
have
roberta
talk
about
the
loans
that
we're
bringing
forth
before
you
today.
Thank
you.
J
Thanks
thanks
serena
good
good
evening,
council
members,
so
good
to
be
with
you
tonight.
I
had
a
few
slides,
but
I
can
just
talk
through
them
if
they're
not
they're
up
oh
they're
there,
so
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
go
over
the
program,
because
I
believe
this
is
maybe
a
new
loan
program
for
a
lot
of
you.
Lorena
mentioned
it's
our
small
business
loan
program.
These
are
next
slide.
Please,
our
overarching
goals
of
this
program
are
laid
out
here.
Really,
this
program
is
to
stimulate.
J
J
A
lot
of
these
programs
that
come
here
are
a
lot
of
the
businesses
that
come
through
this
program
are
our
staple
local
businesses
that
you
know
and
you
frequent
often,
and
finally,
as
lorena
mentioned,
this
is
a
this
is
a
valuable
tool
because
we
are
a
lender
of
last
resort.
So
the
majority
99
of
the
people
that
the
businesses
that
come
to
us
have
looked
at
financing
elsewhere
and
had
tried
to
get
financing
elsewhere
and
couldn't
a
good
next
slide.
J
Just
a
few
parameters
of
the
program.
The
three
types
we
have
are
a
microloan
which
is
up
to
25
000.
We
have
a
startup
loan,
which
is
a
business
that's
from
zero
to
three
years
old
that
can
borrow
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
and
our
expansion
loan
is
for
up
to
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
and
that's
for
our
business
three
years
and
older.
You
can
see
the
eligible
uses
listed
there.
J
J
I
think
you
guys
saw
in
the
report
that
we
have
a
loan
committee
of
nine
people
that
that
fill
out
a
matrix
on
a
scoring
matrix
during
the
presentation
and
based
on
those
parameters,
and
the
scores
are
basically
added
up
and
averaged,
and
if
they
meet
a
certain
threshold,
then
those
loans
are
now
referred
to
council
for
final
approval,
and
the
last
page
is
just
fun
some
of
the
businesses
that
you
might
recognize
that
we've
recently
funded
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
idea
of
that.
L
Roberta
yeah
I
want
to.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
sustainability
department
and
previous
businesses.
Sorry
in
previous
council
members
that
funded
a
business
called
square
kitchen,
which
is
an
incubator
kitchen
and
I'm
proud
to
say
that
hans,
kombucha
and
hello,
bulk
markets
are
awesome.
Businesses
that
started
at
square
kitchen
and
now
grew
square
kitchen
and
now
are
on
their
own.
So
I
hope
we
connect
the
dots
of
the
importance
of
that
seed
money.
J
That's
a
great
example
of
of
a
business
of
hans
kombucha
was
their
phenomenal
growing
out
of
there
growing
out
of
their
space
and
needing
the
capital
more
than
that
that
they
could
find
on
their
own
to
now
have
their
own
facility
in
the
ballparks
as
well.
Yes,
absolutely
so
I
didn't
know
if
I
can
go
over
quickly.
What
the
the
the
first
loan
is.
The
mindful
living
wellness
center
was
that.
J
J
This
is
a
fast-growing
business,
a
fast-growing
model
throughout
the
us
and
one
of
the
first
ones
here
in
salt
lake
city
they're
over
on
richards
street,
just
north
of
of
the
ballpark,
and
they
were
they
were
recommended
for
approval
from
the
council
for
a
hundred
thousand,
since
they
are
a
startup
they're,
using
the
funds
for
inventory
to
purchase
more
cars
to
be
able
right
now
they
have
one
that
they're
working
on
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
be
working
on
more.
At
the
same
time,
my
family
questions.
L
No,
I
I
think
I
have
a
maybe
a
question:
how
many,
how
many
or
how
aggressive
are
we
in
offering
this
loan
this
loan
program
to
businesses
and
how
many
and
how
many
people
actually
take
us
up
on
it,
and
then
we
say
no
to
them
and
some
of
the
reasons
why.
B
B
B
I
think
I
mentioned
last
time
when
I
was
before
you
that
last
year,
when
they
were
talking
about
the
construction
mitigation
program
and
the
grants
that
we
have
been
offering
through
that
great
program
that
you
funded
last
year,
the
team
also
talked
about
the
edlf
program,
which
is
critical
so
anytime.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
a
non-profit
swasa
business
center
is
a
big
supporter.
They
help
us
to
get
the
word
out.
B
B
I
would
say
you
know
the
number
of
loans
out
there
hasn't
been
high
and
is
a
result
of
the
low
interest
rate
that
is
offered
by
financial
institutions
so,
and
we
want
businesses
to
be
able
to
get
the
best
rate,
so
the
ones
that
are
coming
to
us
they've
tried
everything
else
and
like
it
was
mentioned
earlier.
We
are
a
lender
of
last
resort
and
that's
why
they've
come
in
to
us
and
hopefully,
we've
been
able
to
provide
them
with
help.
J
Our
pipeline
is
always
big.
We
always
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
what
happens
for
various
reasons
throughout,
and
you
know
we've
had
this
program
since
we
took
it
over
right
in
the
beginning,
the
pandemic,
so
obviously
that
that
impacted
people
actually
wanting
to
go
forward
with
getting
a
loan
businesses
right,
small
businesses
they
were,
they
were
trying
to
get
the
ppp
and
not
necessarily
like
you
know,
taking
out
a
loan
so
that
impacted,
but
back
to
what
lorena
was
talking
about
our
site
visits.
You
know
before
pandemic
times.
J
We
would
visit
300
businesses
a
year,
and
that
was
the
main
point
of
our
conversation.
Was
this
incredible
economic
tool
that
we
had
that
was
available?
What,
during
the
pandemic,
we
had
to
pivot
really
quickly
and
offer
site
or
do
virtual
site
visits,
while
we
were
still
promoting
the
program
and
what
we
also
pivoted
to
was
doing
more
community
presentations
so
reaching
out
to
our
partners
that
were
mentioned,
all
the
chambers,
swazil
pacific,
islander
business
size
regularly
getting
in
front
of
them.
J
J
It
so
that's
a
huge
thing
is
going
back
to
the
program
to
the
businesses
that
we
visited
in
the
past,
and
we
often
do
that
because
we
know
that
the
more
we
are
in
front
of
them
then
they'll
actually
connect
the
dots
even
with
our
partners.
They
tell
us
that
we
have
to
tell
them
a
few
times
that
we
have
this
tool,
so
we've
really
learned
a
lot
over
the
years
as
far
as
trying
to
get
out
there,
but
going
back
to
the
pipeline.
We,
you
know
people
people
drop
out
for
various
reasons.
J
Our
borrowers
are
specific
in
a
sense
that
they
sometimes
require
additional
assistance
to
complete
the
application.
So
we've
got
incredible
partners
that
we
refer
them
to
that
sometimes
takes
a
longer
process
longer
time
and
for
whatever
reason
they
don't
complete
the
requirements
for
the
application.
J
We've
really
worked
out
on
that
with
our
partners
as
far
as
providing
better
trying
to
provide
better
technical
assistance
in
order
to
complete
it.
But
the
biggest
thing
was
you
know:
lorena
mentioned
was:
was
lower
interest
rates.
We
think
that
they're
finding
cheaper
money,
sometimes-
and
so
you
know,
obviously
a
good
business-
would
do
their
due
diligence
and
look
at
multiple
funding
sources
and
ultimately
you
know
so
they
they
inquire
with
us.
They
inquire
with
five
other
institutions.
J
L
But
in
my
experience
it
seems
like
we're
a
little
bit
harder
to
get
and
we're
also
asking
for
more,
and
I
feel,
like
the
city
shouldn't
be
harder
to
get
the
city.
You
know
money
from
the
city.
We
should
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible,
especially
with
the
small
businesses,
especially
because
we
have
a
lot
of
paperwork
that
we
need
to
fill
out.
We
talked
about
this
earlier
in
the
rda
loan
like
applications.
Sometimes
we
get
our
applications
are
so
complicated
that
people
kind
of,
like
you,
know,
freak
out
and
and
get
overwhelmed.
L
That's
something
that
I
would
like
to
see
with
ours
that
it's
easy
to
understand.
It's
easy
to
complete
it's
more
flexible
and
less
strict
than
a
bank.
Let's
say
because
we're
trying
to
we're
not
a
bank
we're
trying
to
help
you
know
businesses
stay
in
salt
lake
city.
That
would
need
to
be
as
accommodating
as
possible.
Absolutely.
B
I'm
so
glad
council,
member
elder
motors,
you
brought
that
up.
In
fact,
last
year
are
as
part
of
our
due
diligence,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did.
We
talked
to
50
stakeholders
in
our
community.
That
told
us
basically,
what
can
you?
What
can
you
do?
Local
government?
You
know
in
order
to
make
these
loans
more
accessible
to
underserved
communities,
diverse
community
women-owned
businesses.
B
So
last
year
we
wrote
a
transmittal
that
was
presented.
I
was
sent,
I
believe
in
october,
basically
looking
at
the
loan
guidelines
so
looking
at
the
guidelines
and
removing
barriers
that
make
basically
the
program
more
difficult
for
our
small
business
community
to
qualify
and
to
receive
these
funds.
B
So
we
have
done
that
and
we've
we've
done
that
with
the
assistance
of
stakeholders,
and
I
think
it
was
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
learn
from
the
communities
that
we're
trying
to
serve
what
those
barriers
have
been
for
them.
L
T
B
And
I
think
that
the
transmittal
will
eventually
go
before
you,
but
there's
a
lot
of
different
changes
that
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
ensure
that
we're
following
all
the
guidelines,
but
we
worked
very
closely
with
katie's
office
and
sarah
montoya
guided
us
through
developing
those
guidelines.
J
Sure,
mindful
what
living
wellness
center,
I
would
describe
it
as
a
health
and
wellness
center
business.
The
center
provides
float
therapy,
sound
therapy,
yoga
life,
coaching
meditation,
centers,
infrared
light
therapy,
massages,
facials
and
overall
mindfulness
the
the
business.
The
demand
for
that,
if
you
can
imagine,
they
actually
opened
right
before
covid
end
of
2019
and
they
obviously
were
hit
pretty
hard
in
the
beginning,
but
as
soon
as
they
were
able
to
reopen
the
demand
for
those
services
just
blew
up.
So
they
could
not.
They
can't.
J
A
J
A
D
A
D
A
N
B
A
A
I
So
just
a
brief
introduction:
this
is
an
update
from
kan
about
the
work
on
the
city's
thriving
in
place
program
or
project,
which
includes
information
on
new
utah
statutes
that
are
applicable
to
housing,
loss
mitigation
and
an
analysis
of
the
city's
existing
housing
loss
mitigation.
Ordinance
there
are,
there
is
additional
information
on
can
and
the
city
attorney's
office
work
on
potential
tools
to
make
mitigation
of
residential
housing
loss
more
effective,
which
will
be
available
in
coming
weeks.
Sorry,
I
just
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
syntax
here
the
timing.
I
The
project
is
near
the
end
of
its
first
phase,
which
is
community
engagement
and
data
collection.
The
second
phase
will
focus
on
developing
solutions,
including
a
displacement
mitigation
plan
in
late
june.
Can
plans
to
return
to
the
council
to
outline
refinements
to
the
plans
for
phase
two
and
in
september
they
will
present
a
final
version
to
the
council,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
their
team
to
hear
updates
and
all
of
you
to
provide
feedback,
and
there
are
also
some
policy
questions
in
the
staff
report
in
case
you're
interested.
R
Great,
thank
you.
Well,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
again
this
evening.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coveted
time
on
your
agenda.
I'm
honored
to
be
here
with
evis,
garcia,
she's,
one
of
the
members
of
our
consultant
team.
We
also
have
david
driscoll
from
baird
and
driscoll
online
they'll
be
presenting
here
in
a
few
minutes
we
have
alessandro
from
the
university
of
utah
and
we
also
have
tim
thomas
from
the
urban
displacement
project,
so
our
entire
team
is
online.
R
This
is
the
second
installment
of
a
collective
vision
for
an
equitable
salt
lake
city,
update
in
in
regard
to
the
request
from
the
council
that
we
received
about
a
month
or
so
ago,
to
update
you
on
all
of
the
various
housing
policies
that
we're
working
on
in
community
and
neighborhoods
I'll
be
briefing
you
on
thriving
in
place.
We'll
have
our
consultant
team
talk
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
then
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance.
R
I
just
want
to
set
the
table
a
little
bit,
so
the
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance
is
included
this
evening
because
it's
actually
a
displacement
mitigation
strategy,
which
is
why
we've
included
in
the
thriving
in
place
scope
and
why
it's
grouped
this
evening
and
wasn't
part
of
the
broader
bird's
eye
view
that
we
gave
last
week
before
I
get
started.
I
just
want
to
thank
hannah
vickery
in
the
city
attorney's
office.
R
As
I
stated
last
week,
we've
been
working
on
finishing
up
the
goals
and
objectives
outline
and
growing
slc
our
moderate
income
housing
plan
that
expires
this
year.
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
city's
accomplished
27
of
our
27
objectives
outlined
in
that
plan.
We
know
displacement's
happening
in
salt
lake
city
right
now
and
I'd
be
remiss
not
to
mention
the
work
that
our
team
is
currently
doing.
R
The
housing
team
has
been
instrumental
in
stabilizing
salt
lake
city
residents
by
distributing
over
24
million
dollars
in
rent
assistance,
almost
a
million
dollars
in
mortgage
assistance
and
over
4.6
million
dollars
in
homeless
services
over
the
past
two
years.
In
addition
to
the
work
that
the
housing
team
is
doing,
other
divisions
within
can
have
been
working
diligently
to
make
salt
lake
city
more
equitable
by
increasing
transportation
opportunities,
providing
access
to
child
care
and
incentivizing
the
development
of
affordable
housing
through
land
use
ordinances.
R
Before
I
turn
the
time
over
to
our
consultant
team,
I
just
want
to
set
the
table
for
the
work
that
the
council's
been
doing
over
the
past
year
with
us
in
december
of
2020
myself,
along
with
several
other
staff
from
community
neighborhoods
presented
to
the
city
council,
and
at
that
point
the
gentrification
study,
as
it
was
called
in.
That
presentation
was
just
a
vision
that
we
had.
R
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
for
the
allocation
of
those
funds
and
also
want
to
recognize
the
council
staff
that
have
been
involved
throughout
this
process.
Several
of
your
staff
sat
on
the
rfp
selection
committee.
We
proudly
pushed
the
norms
of
this
rfp
by
by
sorry
having
reps
from
community
advocacy
groups
participate
in
the
selection
committee.
R
We
brought
the
rfp
before
the
human
rights
commission,
which
was
an
unheard
of
move
and
kind
of
shattered
procurement's
minds
for
a
few
few
weeks,
but
we
really
felt
the
need
to
be
inclusive
and
have
have
our
community
be
involved
in
this
process.
From
the
beginning,
the
council
staff
participate
on
the
city
stakeholder
steering
committee
and
have
helped
establish
the
community
interviews
and
community
working
group
participants.
R
I
want
to
recognize
resolution
14
of
2020
that
sets
the
guiding
framework
for
the
master
planning
process,
while
this
isn't
technically
a
master
plan,
as
you
probably
traditionally
see
before
you.
We
do
see
this
and
we
have
been
following
that
process
for
thriving
in
place.
We
see
this
plan
as
embedding
within
our
modern
income
housing
plan
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
updating
this
year.
R
R
With
that,
I
would
love
to
turn
the
time
over
to
our
team,
I'm
so
thrilled
to
have
these
amazing
national
experts.
I
know
we've
said
this
time
and
time
again,
but
this
is
a
study
that
hasn't
been
conducted
anywhere
else
in
the
country
and
so
we're
setting
the
precedent
here
in
salt
lake
city.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
david
driscoll
who's
going
first
and
he
is
online.
Thank
you.
M
Okay
and
we
have
some
slides,
we
wanted
to
share
with
you
it's
pleasure
to
be
with
you
this
evening.
I
know
you've
had
a
busy
day,
we'll
we'll
make
this
quick,
but
hopefully
meaningful
so
thriving
in
place
is
the
name
we
came
up
with
for
the
initiative
in
consultation
with
members
of
our
community
working
group,
and
the
purpose
of
calling
it
thriving
in
place
is
to
describe
the
outcome
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
through
the
work
we're
doing.
M
We
are
certainly
looking
to
mitigate
displacement
and
manage
the
the
negative
impacts
of
gentrification,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
community
where
people
can
stay
in
place
and
thrive.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
I
think
you
know
the
purposes
of
the
initiative
is
to
understand
and
document
gentrification
displacement,
including
people's
experiences
of
gentrification
displacement,
their
attitudes
around
that
and
from
that
to
develop
a
plan
of
action
with
specific
policy
recommendations,
including
specific
ordinance,
recommendations
for
council
action
and,
importantly
within
that
construct
of
the
plan
to
also
speak
to
actions
that
others
in
the
community
can
take
and
keep
partners
can
take
to
help
have
a
coordinated
response
to
issues
of
gentrification
and
displacement
and
through
both
the
process
and
the
outcome
to
foster
community
where
we
can
all
stay
and
thrive.
M
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide
just
quickly
in
terms
of
members
of
our
team.
We
definitely
think
of
the
community.
Working
group
is
an
important
part
of
our
team,
as
well
as
the
city
staff
team.
We
have
a
core
staff
team,
that's
been
working
with
us,
including
angela,
but
also
a
city
steering
committee
across
multiple
departments
who,
at
in
different
ways,
help
inform
the
process
as
well
as
we'll
potentially
have
a
role
in
acting
on
the
outcomes.
We
have
three
groups
we've
brought
together
from
around
the
country
for
this
locally.
M
We
have
the
university
of
utah
and
dr
evis
garcia's
with
you
this
evening,
she's
going
to
give
a
short
presentation
on
the
engagement
work
that
she
and
also
dr
alessandra
regalon,
have
been
doing
alessandra's
online
with
us
tonight
and
then
also
from
uc
berkeley,
the
center
for
community
innovation.
They
have
the
urban
displacement
project,
they're,
really,
national
leaders
in
analyzing
displacement
factors
and
they've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
mapping
and
dr
tim
thomas
is
online
with
us
tonight.
M
He
can
answer
questions
he's
not
gonna,
be
part
of
the
presentation,
but
he
can
speak
to
any
questions
you
have
about
that
work
that
is
currently
underway
and
we'll
be
sharing
out.
Some
preliminary
results
in
the
coming
month
and
then
myself
and
daisy
quinones
are
part
of
the
baird
and
driscoll
team.
We
do
a
lot
of
work
on
affordable
housing
around
the
country,
specifically
in
california,
and
really,
and
I
used
to
work
in
boulder
colorado.
M
So
I
know
the
mountain
west
a
bit
and
we're
excited
to
be
partnering
with
the
folks
on
your
team
at
the
city
to
undertake
this
effort.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
There's
two
phases
of
work.
We
are
coming
to
the
conclusion
of
phase
one
there's
been
a
lot
of
intensive
work,
doing
engagement,
we'll
talk
mostly
about
that
this
evening
and
then
we'll
be
back
in
a
future
day
to
talk
about
okay.
What
have
we
learned?
M
There
is
a
there's,
our
broad
engagement,
which
is
primarily
through
the
online
platform.
The
website
we've
launched
and
the
online
survey
as
well
as
sort
of
city-wide
engagement.
That's
been
done
by
the
university
of
utah
students,
but
then
a
more
specific
focus,
with
a
lot
more
face-to-face
interaction
and
in
place
interaction
by
going
to
where
people
are
at
and
dr
garcia
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
her
part
of
the
presentation.
M
That
has
access
to
some
videos
that
talk
about
what
displacement
is
help
people
understand
what
we're
talking
about.
When
we
talk
about
displacement,
it
will
be
a
place
where
we
start
posting
up
the
feedback
that
we're
hearing
and
a
summary
of
the
key
issues
that
are
being
defined,
sharing
at
the
maps
that
are
created
in
terms
of
the
displacement
indicators
and
is
a
way
for
people
to
get
involved.
So
right
now
the
key
thing
at
the
top
of
the
page
there
is
people
can
access.
The
online
survey
in
both
english
and
spanish.
T
Yeah,
thank
you
david.
So
once
we
had
like
that
beautiful
website
just
like
ready
to
go
early
february,
we
needed
to
get
the
word
out,
and
so
we
did
like
a
lot
of
engagement
to
get
people
to
go
to
the
website
and
also
fill
out
a
survey,
and
this
is
like
between
myself
and
dr
rigolun's
class.
T
So
we
have
about
35
students,
undergrads
and
also
master's
students
in
city
and
metropolitan
planning
that
have
been
working
the
whole
semester
on
this
project,
so
we
went
and
distributed
2
000
door
hangers
and
we
tried
to
concentrate
among
the
renters
they're,
usually
like
harder
to
reach
and
also
more
affected
by
notification.
T
We
had
like
2000,
postcards
and
distributed
that
to
people
on
the
street.
If
they
didn't
have
the
time
part
of
our
engagement
was,
I
do
you
have
30
min
30
seconds,
I
can
tell
you
about
it
or
if
you
have
two
hours,
let's
sit
down
and
talk
about
it
for
a
while,
then
we
had
like
the
the
posters
that
were
like
in
key
places
in
the
community.
T
Of
course
we
wanted
to
have
fun,
so
we
had
like
made
stencils
and
put
those
in
public
lands
directing
people
to
go
to
our
driving
in
place
on
slc.org,
and
then
we
partnered
with
like
many
community
groups,
and
so
we
did
like
tabling
events
with
them
and
went
to
other
events
that
were
going
on.
Always
the
supermarket
is
a
great
place
to
be,
and
then
we
had
like
lots
of
presentations,
including
presentations
with
13
community
councils
and
social
media
posts
and
email
blasts.
T
So
we
contacted
over
a
thousand
organizations
to
help
us
spread
the
word
also
in
in
social
media.
So
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
david,
so
something
that
we
did,
it
was
like
hire
people
in
the
community
that
they
were
like
robbing
listeners,
people
that
were
trusted
in
the
community.
That
would
be
like
community
license
and
it
was
like
people
that
work
for
different
organizations.
They
were
not
representing
their
organization,
but
again
these
were
people
who
were
connectors.
T
So
we
have
people
from
the
salt
lake
city,
school
district,
utah,
housing
coalitions
among
like
black
light
matters,
so
just
different,
just
groups
that
we
wanted
to
connect
from
people,
people
of
color
people
who
experience
homelessness
in
the
past
or
are
currently
on
house
and
and
people
from
different
communities
like
pacific
islander,
again,
african-american
immigrants
and
and
so
on.
T
So
the
way
that
we
did
this
it
was
like
they
could
have
like
formal
focus
groups,
and
they
were
like
five
at
the
at
the
end,
but
also
it
could
be
one-on-one
like
interviews
of
people
that
they
are
new
that
have
been
affected
by
the
issue
of
displacement
and
gentrification,
and
we
have
two
of
the
focus
groups
being
in
spanish
and
and
two
people
that
spoke
spanish
as
well
and
at
the
end.
T
T
T
T
So
this
is
just
like
a
summary
of
all
or
engagements,
so
there
has
been
like
a
300
and
plus
unique
website
visitors,
and
we
had
about
like
1700,
probably
now
more
of
like
surveys
being
completed
online,
but
also
like
700,
that
were
in
person.
So
a
lot
of
what
we
did.
It
was
just
going
with
trusted
organizations
and
having
them
help
us
to
fill
out
the
survey
having
students
going
to
parks
and
supermarkets.
T
As
I
said,
and
we
have
noticed
that
the
people
who
fill
out
the
intercept
surveys
are
tend
to
be
more
people
of
color
tend
to
be
younger
than
to
be
more
female.
Later
on.
We
will
be
presenting
some
of
those
results
along
along
with
the
results
of
like
all
these,
like
wonderful
workshops.
So
for
now
it's
just
like
the
the
summary
that
it
really
comes
to
about
8
hundred
plus
community
interactions
that
we
have
counted
our
our
goal
actually
like.
Initially,
it
was
like
to
achieve
at
least
ten
thousand.
T
So
I
think
that
we
are
like
well
underway
to
do
that,
since
this
side
project
will
go
in
the
into
the
summer
and
there
will
be
a
lot
more
opportunities
for
engagement,
again.
Seven
youth
workshops.
As
I
said,
five
focus
groups,
engagement,
sporting
engagement
with
trusted
organizations,
and
this
is
without
counting
some
story
maps
that
were
done
last
semester
by
some
of
my
students.
T
They
interview
420
people
in
different
community
councils,
so
there's
like
stories
from
each
single
community,
council
and
and
assets
and
what
it
should
be
preserved
and
what
what
again?
What
people
are,
are
saying
and
what
are
their
experiences
of
gentrification.
T
And
then
we
had
the
community
working
group
meetings,
two
updates
for
the
the
human
rights
commission
and
also
a
presentation
to
the
salt
lake
city
and
network,
where
all
the
community
councils
meet
and
much
more,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
to
david
for
the
continuation
of
the
presentation.
M
Yeah
thanks
davis,
so
I
think
we
just
have
one
more
slide,
but
I
do
want
to
the
the
turnout.
The
response
has
been,
in
my
opinion,
tremendous,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
students.
Who've
been
out
listening
to
people
and
helping
facilitate
all
this
engagement.
The
community
liaisons
and
the
community
partners
in
particular,
as
well
as
those
who've,
been
responding,
many
of
whom
are
experiencing
a
lot
of
stress
in
their
life
as
rents,
have
been
going
up
and
they've
been
facing
the
actual
pressures
or
sometimes
actually
been
displaced
and
are
telling
us
about
it.
M
We
have
a
lot
of
work
ahead
of
us
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
to
collate
and
compile
all
that
information,
make
sense
of
it
and
be
able
to
share
back
with
folks
what
we've
heard
and
start
connecting
the
dots
to
okay.
What
can
we
do
about
it?
That
would
be
meaningful
and
make
a
difference.
So
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
things
that
are
coming
up,
highlight
I
think
april
16th,
which
is
saturday
there's
going
to
be
an
event
at.
M
I
think
it's
three
confluences
park
there's
going
to
be
a
mural
painting.
So
if
you
want
to
put
on
your
painting
clothes
and
go
down
help
paint
a
community
mural,
that's
based
on
the
project
and
the
theme
of
thriving
in
place,
that'll
be
happening
in
april
26th.
The
students
will
be
presenting
the
results
of
their
work
and
I
think
you
can
do
that
in
person
or
watch
online
and
then
what
yeah
may
we
start
into
phase
two
and
we've
not
talked
about
it
in
the
presentation.
M
But
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
going
on
by
tim,
thomas
and
his
colleague,
julia
greenberg,
compiling
a
lot
of
data
on
indicators
of
gentrification
displacement
and
creating
risk
maps
that
we'll
be
sharing
out
in
the
coming
weeks
and
what
we
do.
R
C
A
I
R
I'll
I'll
try
to
get
through
it
quickly
before
I
jump
into
that.
I
just
want
to
thank
our
we've.
Had
numerous
members
in
the
community
cindy
cromer
here
who's
here
this
evening
and
others
who've
participated
in
our
community
working
groups
and
in
the
interviews
and
and
have
also
helped
shape
the
outreach.
So
I
just
want
to
recognize
our
community
partners
and
the
work
that
they
have
been
helping
kind,
of
course
correct
us
and
then
also
just
thanking
the
the
students
at
the
university
of
utah
for
their
work.
R
It's
been
really
awesome
to
see
the
survey
results
coming
in
each
week.
Our
team
calibrates,
based
on
what
we're
hearing
from
the
community
and
the
demographics
and
they'll
then
go
to
different
neighborhoods,
and
so
I
haven't
seen
an
engagement
process
like
this
before,
and
so
it's
been
really
great.
We,
I
feel
really
good
about
us,
holding
true
to
the
the
intention
that
we
said
of
this
being
a
community
driven
plan
so
with
that
I'll
quickly
go
through
housing
loss
mitigation.
R
Some
of
you
were
here
for
the
2020
presentation,
but
essentially
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
things
to
fix
with
with
our
existing
ordinance,
and
we
really
wanted
to
understand
what
was
happening
in
our
community
while
to
to
drive
the
amendments
to
that
ordinance.
So
I'm
going
to
quickly
go
through
the
ordinance,
the
constraints,
some
of
the
technical
discrepancies,
some
state
preemption,
that
we
got
this
year
and
next
steps.
R
So
the
initial
ordinance
came
out
of
a
study
in
1994
that
was
commissioned
by
the
city
council
to
do
an
economic
evaluation
to
analyze
the
impact
of
loss
of
affordable
housing
due
to
commercial
development.
It
was
really
focused
on
loss
in
central
city,
the
university
and
capitol
hill
neighborhoods.
That
study
is
what
created
the
ordinance
framework
and
in
2012
the
current
ordinance
was
amended
to
eight
chapter
18.97
mitigation
of
residential
housing
loss.
R
The
purpose
of
the
chapter
is
to
mitigate
the
loss
of
affordable
housing
stock
due
to
new
development,
with
due
consideration
for
vested
or
protected
property
rights,
and
the
ordinance
calls
for
a
housing
mitigation
plan.
If
an
application
for
a
demolition
permit
is
filed,
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
expand
parking
is
requested
or
a
land
use
change
from
commercial
to
residential
or
residential
to
commercial.
Sorry
that
would
result
in
the
loss
of
of
housing
units.
R
R
The
housing
impact
statement-
that's
required,
looks
at
various
factors,
including
the
residential
character
of
the
neighborhood,
the
square
foot
of
land
that
will
be
impacted,
just
really
kind
of
basic
things.
R
It
doesn't
get
into
the
weeds
and
again
the
housing
impact
statement
does
not
look
at
affordable
housing,
it
doesn't
say
were
the
units
that
are
being
destroyed,
affordable,
nor
does
it
require
the
replacement
of
affordable
units
and
so
that
right
there
is
what
is
a
huge
policy
consideration
that
we're
going
to
have
to
have,
and
I
I
know
that
that's
come
before
you
on
every
single
ordinance.
Amendment
right
is:
is
housing
loss
mitigation?
R
There
are
mitigation
measures
that
you
can
that
you
can
choose,
so
you
can
either
replace
the
loss
of
the
housing
units
or
you
can
pay
a
fee
to
the
housing
trust
fund
in
2020
of
the
projects
that
required
the
housing
mitigation
plan.
Only
two
resulted
in
a
recommendation
to
collect
a
mitigation
fee
and
those
projects
never
happened
to
date.
We
have
collected
no
money
into
the
housing
trust
fund
from
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance.
R
There
are
many
constraints
with
the
existing
ordinance
and
if
I
could
tell
you
how
much
time
myself
hannah
predecessors
before
me,
many
of
us
have
spent
on
unraveling
this
and
constantly
hitting
roadblocks.
It's
been,
it's
been
a
lot
of
work,
and
so
I'm
going
to
just
try
to
summarize
some
of
the
constraints.
R
Obviously
the
affordability
piece,
and
I
think
that
that's
really
challenging
for
you
guys
as
council
members
when
you
have
zoning
map
amendments
coming
before
you
you
know,
bueno
web
is
a
great
example
of
one
of
those
projects
right
and
so
how
do
we
have
an
ordinance
that
protects
our
affordable
housing
or
creates
affordable
housing?
R
This
currently
does
not
do
that.
Unfortunately,
as
I
mentioned,
the
purpose
statement
says
the
the
chapter
is
intended
to
mitigate
the
loss
of
affordable
housing,
but
the
policy
tied
to
the
ordinance
actually
does
not
do
that.
The
trigger
right
now
is
for
a
demolition
permit
that
parking,
conditional
use
permit
or
zoning
amendment.
R
The
housing
impact
statement
is
required
during
the
entitlement
process.
So
when
you're
going
through,
you
know
a
subdivision
amendment
or
I'm
sorry
when
you're
going
through
an
up
zone,
but
the
fee
is
actually
collected
in
the
demolition
process,
and
so,
as
you
guys
know,
oftentimes
a
developer
may
come
re-zone
a
property,
but
they
may
not
actually
ever
develop
on
that
property.
R
The
formula
takes
into
consideration
the
current
fair
market
value
of
the
building.
It
excludes
the
land
value
and
it
subtracts
that
from
the
international
code
council
or
the
icc
square
foot
of
replacement
costs
of
the
building.
This
always
is
yielding
a
negative
number,
which
is
why,
even
if
a
developer
chooses
to
pay
the
fee,
because
of
the
way
that
the
formula
is
drafted
in
the
ordinance,
we
don't
ever
yield
a
positive
number.
R
R
State
code
requires
us
to
justify
that
fee,
and
then
we
have
the
policy,
that's
tied
to
it
right,
and
so
we've
looked
at
many
stop
gap
measures
on
the
formula,
including
hiring
zion's
public
finance,
to
do
a
very
kind
of
simplistic
analysis
for
us
of
looking
at
they
did
a
sampling,
I
want
to
say,
was
200
different
properties
and
we
were
thinking.
Could
we
could
we
mirror
seattle?
Seattle
has
somewhat
of
a
similar
ordinance
where
they
charge
a
base
fee
say
I
think
it's
10
percent
or
something
so
we
were
thinking.
R
R
The
process
right
now
is
housed
within
community
neighborhoods,
but
it
starts
with
in
building
services
and
moves
to
the
planning
division
for
a
report.
It
then
goes
to
the
community
and
neighborhoods
director
and
then
there's
no
because
it's
moving
through
various
divisions
within
community
neighborhoods,
there's
no
real
ownership
over
the
process,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
when
we
look
at
you
know,
if
we
want
to
amend
this
ordinance,
we
are
recommending
having
it
kind
of
housed
within
one
division.
So
they
can
see
it
through
the
entire
process.
R
There's
numerous
technical
discrepancies
that
the
city
attorney's
office
has
identified
hannah's
created
drafted
a
red
line
of
the
ordinance
as
she's
been
working
through
various
sections
of
the
code,
for
example,
section
1864050,
residential
demo
demo
demolition
provision.
Sorry,
I
can't
spit
that
out
doesn't
align
with
1897,
which
is
the
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance.
R
The
purpose
statement,
as
I
said,
doesn't
align
with
the
policy.
The
housing
loss,
mitigation
plan
and
statement
touches
multiple
chapters
within
the
code
and
it's
not
contained
within.
For
example,
if
we
had
a
development
code,
so
the
planning
division,
a
planner,
has
to
know
that
they
need
to
go
and
pull
housing
loss
mitigation
out
of
1897,
which
doesn't
live
in
the
chapter
that
they
normally
are
working
in.
R
We
had
two
bills
passed
this
session
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
looking
at
crafting
policy
around
housing
loss
mitigation.
The
first
is
hb
462,
and
this
I
talked
about
this
last
week
in
my
presentation:
utah,
housing,
affordability,
amendments.
One
of
the
strategies
that
we
now
can
select
within
our
moderate
income
housing
plan
is
to
have
a
housing
loss
mitigation
fund,
hb,
303,
local
land
use
amendments,
while
it's
not
spelled
out
as
inclusionary
zoning.
R
Finally,
the
next
step,
so
the
administration
welcomes
feedback
from
the
city
council
on
the
development
of
the
policy
objectives
for
the
new
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance
and
maybe,
as
we
start
analyzing
the
data
and
the
community
engagement
efforts,
we
decide.
We
want
to
do
a
different
type
of
of
mitigation
measure
that
will
obviously
will
have
those
discussions.
R
The
city
attorney's
office
has
conducted
a
thorough
review
of
the
code
and
has
drafted
proposed
amendments
to
clean
up
the
technical
issues,
if
preferred
by
the
council.
The
technical
changes
could
be
transmitted
while
we're
working
through
the
thriving
employees
plan,
but
note
that
that
would
not
include
the
formula
which
is
really
the
biggest
piece,
because
we
still
would
have
to
do
that
fee
justification
study.
R
R
Those
those
amendments
and
policies
will
come
back
before
the
city
council,
of
course,
for
you
guys
to
choose
to
adopt
and
they
will
go
through,
obviously,
an
engagement
process
and
a
planning
commission
recommendation.
Once
we
have
those
policy
recommendations
adopted
by
the
city
council,
then
the
city
attorney's
office
will
draft
the
relevant
amendment.
R
So
I
also
want
to
point
that
out
that
the
thriving
in
place
team
will
come
to
us
with
very
concrete
policy
recommendations
to
mitigate
displacement,
based
on
the
data
that
they've
that
they've
analyzed
and
the
engagement
efforts
that
they've
conducted,
but
they
will
not
be
coming
to
us
with
red
lines
for
ordinances.
Our
city
attorney's
office
has
specifically
asked
to
draft
those
themselves
with
that
we
have
some
policy
considerations
that
were
included
in
the
transmittal
happy
to
talk
those
through
with
you
this
evening.
R
D
I'll
just
say
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
this
important
issue.
I
I
keep
hoping
that
we
start
to
be
able
to
discuss
actual
policies
that
will
that
will
that
we
can
consider.
So
I
guess
what
I
ask
is
that
as
soon
as
there
are
you
know
this
big
list
of
potential
policies
that
you
start
sorting
through,
I
would
love
a
small
group
meeting
to
sit
down
with
your
team
and
just
sort
of
hear
what
those
are,
because
absolutely
this
engagement
that
you're
doing
is
incredibly
important.
D
But
what
I'm
really
interested
in
is
digging
deep
into
those
policies
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
actually
solve
this
because
I'll
be
completely
honest,
I'm
not
creative
or
smart
enough
to
to
come
up
with
any
ideas
that
I
think
actually
would
work.
It
seems
like
such
a
hard
problem,
so
I'm
really
eager
to
be
able
to
engage
with
you
once
there's.
D
R
I'm
so
excited
to
have
those
policies,
hopefully
in
the
next
month
or
so
so.
Thank
you.
That's
actually
really
helpful
feedback
for
us.
J
Amplify
what
councilmember
mono
said,
I
am
really
frustrated
by
the
insane
limitations
on
that
housing
lost
mitigation
and
I'm
more
frustrated
that
I
don't
have
the
brain
power
to
fully
comprehend
all
of
them.
So
I
would
really
love
either
a
one-on-one
or
a
small
group
with
you
to
like
really
really
go
into
it
and
understand
the
crux
of
where
it
is
because
I'm
I'm
with
councilmember
mano.
The
the
livelihood
and
identity
of
my
community
is
at
stake
with
us
being
able
to
take
action.
L
Well,
first,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
evie.
I
saw
the
student
presentation
and
all
the
work,
so
that's
very
really
cool.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
invite
that
I
got
to
see
that
live
when
you
guys
presented
angela.
I
don't
understand
what
the
feed
justification
study
is
like.
What
are
we?
How
does
that
work?
Is
that
for
the
state
so
that
we
could,
but
what
justifies
a
fee?
I
guess
that's
the
question
to
the
state.
R
Yeah,
what
do
we
need
to
demonstrate
right?
So
I
may
phone
a
friend
on
this
one
to
katie,
but
what
I
will
say
is
or
mary
beth,
who
is
our
finance
director,
but
what
I
will
say
that
any
fee
that
we
charge
within
the
city.
The
state
requires
us
to
justify
that
and
so
part
of
what
we
have
to
do.
If
we
choose
to
charge
a
mitigation
fee
is
that
we
will
have
to
go
through
an
analysis
that
would
justify
that
but
I'll
see
if,
if
katie
has
anything
to
add
there.
K
If
I
may
add,
I
mean
there
are
different
ways:
taxes
they
have
a
process
to
go
through
them
and
truth
and
taxation,
and
they
have
to
be
very
defined,
but
fees.
If
I
remember
right
from
the
county
times
or
someone,
I
heard
the
last
time
they
have
a
different
process.
So
you
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
fees
are
not
taxes
to
follow
that
process
a
lot
there
are
different
processes
for
both
of
them.
But
someone
smarter
can
explain
this
better
than
me.
I
think.
A
A
Just
charge
an
extra
fee
just
to
to
bank
the
money.
R
Okay-
and
we
also
you
know,
part
of-
I
think,
the
the
needle
that
we
have
to
thread
here-
is
we
don't
want
to
have
a
fee?
That's
too
high
that
we're
then
driving
up
the
cost
of
development
right,
but
we
also
want
to
have
a
fee
that
mitigates
the
the
displacement
of
affordable
units
or
whatever
policy
we
choose
right,
and
so
we
have
this
really
fine
line
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
walk.
If
we
choose
to
to,
you,
know,
amend
this
ordinance
and
fix
it
of
having
a
fee.
L
A
B
Question
if
that
fee
is
cost
justified,
the
council
can
always
earmark
that
money
to
a
certain
account.
B
B
I
C
T
F
A
Of
that
fully
loaded
cost
is
the
admin
costs
that
it
that
is
required
to
process
that
process?
So
you
could
take
that
fee
and
give
it
to
the
westside
community
land
right,
but
then
the
admin
doesn't
have
the
admin
needs
to
increase
their
budget
to
to
support
the
administrative
fees
that
they
are
being
burdened
with
to
process.
It.
R
Okay-
and
that
is
actually
really
good.
One
of
the
policy
questions
that
we'll
have
to
ask
is
what,
if
we
do
collect
a
fee
once
we
are
able
to
justify
that
or
you
know
the
new
fee,
do
we
what
fun
does
that
go
into,
and
what
are
the
policy
outcomes
that
we
want
to
have
from
that,
and
so
those
are
will
be.
The
conversations
that
we'll
that
we'll
get
to
have
mr
chair.
K
K
Oh
yeah,
no,
it's
not
a
question.
I
there's
two
items
in
the
in
the
agenda
and
there
are
probably
members
of
the
public
waiting
for
that,
and
I
know
that
this
conversation
could
take.
You
know
hours
and
hours
and
I
I
would
like
to
continue
this
conversation
because
I
have
to
learn.
I
don't
you
know,
I
need
to
learn
a
lot
about
this
and
I
would
love
to
to
understand
this
better.
But
if
we
can
cut
this
okay.
A
R
A
All
right,
we're
moving
on
to
item
number
11,
the
board
appointment
for
the
human
rights
commission
of
everett
bacon,
and
I
and
also
the
board
of
appointments
for
the
accessibility
and
disability
commission.
But
first
it's
forever
bacon.
A
Mr
bacon,
yes,
hi
all
right
well
welcome
to
the
city
council
meeting
and
I
appreciate
your
your
patience
and
sitting
listening
to
this
the
council
meeting.
So
I
appreciate
your
engagement
with
the
human
rights
commission
and
then
in
a
few
minutes
on
the
access,
accessibility
and
the
disability
commission.
So
you
got
six
council
members
here
to.
Please
tell
us
about
yourself
and
your
work
with
the
human
rights
commission.
E
Well,
this
would
be
new
for
me,
but
I
would
be
representing
disability
issues
on
the
human
rights
commission.
I
am
obviously
blind
and
I've
been
extremely
involved
in
blindness
and
low
vision
issues.
I'm
president
of
the
national
federation
of
the
blind
of
utah.
E
I've
been
president
of
that
since
2012,
and
that's
the
oldest
and
largest
organization
of
blind
people
for
blind
people
here
in
utah,
and
then
I've
also
been
an
employee
at
the
division
of
services
for
the
blind
for
17
years
now,
working
in
many
different
aspects
of
of
that
that
agency
and
very
proud
of
that
agency
and
the
work
that
we
do
so.
I've
been
involved
in
lots
of
disability
issues,
mainly
related
to
blindness
and
low
vision.
E
But
I've
been
also
representing
other
disabilities
as
much
as
I
possibly
can
and
learning
what
what
needs
they
might
have,
and
I
hope
to
bring
that
to
the
human
rights
commission.
D
D
This
is
I'm
sure
that
wasn't
what
you
expected,
but
we
really
do
appreciate
your
service
to
the
city
and
helping
us
make
sure
that
our
city
is
accessible
and
that
our
city,
that
everybody
that
needs
to
has
access
to
the
city
government,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
particular
expertise
on
that.
So.
E
Well,
thank
you
being
a
state
employee.
I
understand
how
meetings
work
so
not
a
problem.
A
So
yes,
thank
you
very
much
and
so
you're
on
two
different
commissions
here,
so
we're
we're
having
advice
and
consent
on
the
human
rights
commission
and
then
in
a
few
seconds
on
the
accessibility
and
disability,
commission
and
you're.
Also
part
of
that
and
part
of
this
consent
is
you'll,
be
on
the
consent
agenda
for
the
april
19th,
which
is
next
tuesday's,
formal
consent
agenda
and.
A
I'm
also
going
to
at
this
time
introduce
and
if
there's,
if
there's
other
members
of
the
accessibility
and
disability
commission
on
board,
I'd
like
to
give
them
also
a
few
minutes
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
themselves:
jeffrey
kenyon,
if
you're
on
board
margot
nate,
scott
or
s.
Stefan
stephen.
A
M
E
Is
nate
kripas,
I'm
I'm
the
public
affairs
supervising
attorney
with
the
disability
law
center.
The
disability
law
center
is
the
state's
protection
advocacy
agency.
We
are
a
federally
mandated
organization
and
there's
an
organization
like
ours
in
every
state
we're
designing
designated
by
the
governor
to
be
the
protection
advocacy
agency.
Our
mission
is
to
advance
and
protect
the
rights
of
utahns
with
disabilities.
E
I've
been
with
the
disability
law
center
for
seven
years.
I've
actually
been
a
part
of
this
committee
or
council
or
whatever
for
most
of
that
time,
and
it's
many
many
iterations
I've
worked
on
a
host
of
issues
at
the
dlc
I'm
fairly.
You
know.
I've
worked
on
ada
access
issues,
employment
issues,
fair
housing.
E
I
now
work
a
lot
in
our
public
policy
work
and
just
you
know
thank
you
for
or
you
know
your
work
and
trying
to
make
us
a
commission.
We
appreciate
it
and
you
know,
look
forward
to
continuing
to
to
work
with
the
city
on.
D
O
B
Yes,
hello,
everyone,
as
you
said,
my
name
is
steven
persinger
and
I
work
for
the
disability
services
for
the
deaf
and
hard
of
hearing
and
have
done
so
since
2014..
I
really
enjoy
the
people
that
I've
been
able
to
meet.
I've
been
functioning
the
role
of
case
manager,
and
I
was
also
formerly
the
president
of
the
association
for
the
deaf,
and
that
was
for
four
years.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
your
engagement
with
the
city
and
with
all
the
work
that
you
do.
It's
it's
so
vital
and
important.
Thank
you.
K
Chair,
I
wanted
to
just
say
very
quickly
that
we
are
very
lucky
to
have
a
commission
like
this
in
our
city,
and
I
hope
other
cities
in
this
valley
and
in
this
state
will
create
commissions
like
this,
because
all
of
these
voices
are
needed
and
at
the
table.
So.
A
But
I'll
I
first
off
to
say
thank
you
very
much.
A
It's
really
nice
to
to
meet
everybody,
and
I-
and
I
really
appreciate-
and
I
think
that
I
speak
for
the
rest
of
the
council-
here-
really
appreciate
the
engagement
that
you
provide
not
only
the
city
but
also
the
city
council,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
the
education
we're
receiving
and
the
experience
we
receive
here,
because
it
makes
us
a
better
city
council
because
of
your
efforts
and
because
of
your
engagement,
so
appreciate
that
very
much
on
the
19th
you'll
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
B
N
Okay,
this
is
margo.
B
Well,
I'm
captain
quick
retired,
but
I'm
a
person
with
epilepsy,
I'm
also.
I
live
in
salt
lake
city.
B
N
N
B
And
then
I've
worked
with
the
league
of
women
voters.
I
was
secretary
for
that
and
interact
with
him
also.
A
And
thank
you
very
much
margo,
and
I
appreciate
that
and
and
thank
you
for
your
engagement
on
the
committee
and
thank
you
for
your
engagement
with
the
salt
lake
city
council.
I
appreciate
all
your
energy
and
your
your
efforts
next
tuesday,
on
the
19th
at
seven
o'clock
that
evening
will
be
you'll.
Your
name,
along
with
the
other
members
of
the
accessibility
and
disability
commission,
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
N
L
A
N
A
N
N
I
will
give
you
a
quick
rundown
on
this.
There
are
three
categories
of
your
city
council
office
budget
that
you
have
asked
questions
about,
and
I
want
to
check
in
with
you
on.
All
three
areas
relate
to
communication
with
the
public
number
one
is,
and
this
is
in
anticipation
of
the
upcoming
budget.
So
these
are
things
for
you
to
think
about.
N
You
can
give
your
feedback
tonight
or
or
give
it
some
thought
for
a
few
days,
but
the
council
members
each
have
an
outreach
budget
of
six
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
per
year
and
that
basically
equates
to
one
mailing
per
year
in
some
of
the
districts,
and
it's
been
pointed
out
that,
of
course,
some
areas
of
the
city
do
not
have
the
level
of
electronic
accessed
email
and,
and
that
type
of
thing
to
receive
a
lot
of
the
types
of
communication
that
we're
doing
and
they
may
need
a
greater
investment
or
greater
opportunity
to
use
mail
to
get
to
those
community
members.
N
So
one
thing
that
the
council
has
done
in
the
past
is
try
to
be
equal
with
each
council
member
so
that
so
that
you're
not
getting
a
dollar
amount
based
on
the
need
of
the
district.
But
each
council
member
is,
is
getting
the
same
dollar
amount
and
then
you
that
if
you
don't
spend
the
money,
if
you
don't
need
the
money
and
don't
spend
the
money,
then
it
would
lapse
to
the
city's
fund
balance.
N
And
so
that's
a
consideration
for
you.
The
second
item
that
I
just
want
to
confirm
with
you
our
public
meetings.
N
We
learned
a
lot
during
the
covet
process
where
we
did
the
electronic
meetings,
remote
meetings
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
council
would
like
to
continue
to
have
those
meetings
in
both
ways
in
the
in
person.
As
well
as
allowing
people
to
sign
on
electronically
with
the
remote
opportunity,
because
we
got
so
much
more
participation
from
people
who
we
usually
do
not
reach,
so
that
is
taking
a
a
fair
amount
of
staff
time
about
five,
more
people
than
just
doing
an
in-person
meeting.
N
So
we
don't
need
to
add
staff
to
do
that.
It's
something
we're
filling
with
our
part-time
and
our
interns,
but
knowing
that,
if
you
want
to
us
to
continue
that
helps
with
the
answer
to
the
next
question,
so
am
I
correct
in
assuming
that
you
want
us
to
continue
with
both
types
of
meeting
in
person
and
remote,
okay?
N
Okay,
so
then
the
final
item
number
three:
is
your
staffing
in
your
city,
council
liaison
area?
That
is
the
position
that
is
most
directly
involved
with
the
public
and
directly
involved
with
the
city
council
members,
the
we
have
had
four
council
liaisons
for
the
seven
districts
and
at
different
times,
we've
looked
at
whether
that's
adequate
or
not.
N
The
the
central
staffing
model
has
allowed
us
to
for
them
to
back
each
other
up
and
to
to
help
each
other
out
and
those
sorts
of
things.
So
we
we
did
an
experiment
about
18
months
ago,
at
the
request
of
the
council,
where
we
supplemented
that
four-person
team
with
interns
and
some
part-time
help,
and
it
did
help
and
it
as
staff.
It
appeared
to
us
that
we
were
finally
getting
closer
to
filling
the
need.
N
So
we
did
have
a
council
member
officially
request
that
the
council
consider
the
idea
of
moving
from
a
four-person
team
to
a
seven-person
team,
and
yes,
so
actually
there
are
many
different
at
different
times.
Different
council
members
have
been
requesting
it.
So
so
we
we
we
have
just
in
evaluating
this.
We
did
keep
two
full-time
equivalent
positions
vacant
so
that
we
could
be
nimble
so
to
speak,
to
get
if
you
decided
to
go
in
this
direction.
N
The
problem
is
that
we
still
had
to
get
all
the
work
done,
so
we
had
to
use
the
money
for
those
part-time
and
intern
people.
So
so,
if
you
would
like
to
move
to
a
seven
member
team
in
that
area,
they
still
would
back
each
other
up
and
they
still
would,
if
you,
if
your
liaison
were
out
for
a
week
or
something
you'd,
have
the
assistance
of
other
people,
and
you
know
all
the
same
same
model
that
we
have,
but
with
three
additional
we
would.
N
We
would
just
have
to
add
one
fte
into
the
budget,
but
but
we
would
need
a
total
counting,
the
communication
budget
increase
and
the
additional
staff
people
if
we
are
to
maintain
the
the
ability
to
have
the
interns
and
part-time
people
help
us
with
the
council
meetings.
N
The
total
change
to
the
council
office
budget
would
be
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
something
that
we
at
least
gave
the
administration
a
heads
up
about,
not
knowing
we
didn't
give
them
the
number
just
the
whole
the
topic
just
so
that
they're
aware
they
are
right
now
concluding
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
N
They
would
have
no
obligation
at
all
to
put
this
into
their
budget,
but
we
wanted
them
to
know
at
least
the
conversation
was
going
on,
and
so
they
could.
You
know,
be
aware,
so
I
leave
that
with
you
as
either
food
for
thought
or
conversation.
Whichever
works
for
you,
mr.
K
Chair
you
know,
I,
I
think
I've
been
like
a
little
broken
record
about
this
for
a
little
while
and
I'm
not
the
only
one,
but
I
I
feel
very
strongly
about
these
issues
and
the
constituents
of
of
district
2
and-
and
I
will
say
that
many
other
districts
are
noticing
the
difference
of
like
the
engagement
that
they
were
giving
them
and
they
are
engaging
more
with
us
in
a
small
email
and
asking
us
for
meetings,
and
I
appreciate
that,
especially
for
the
west
side
and
know
that
the
other
districts
don't
deserve,
that
they
do.
K
And
but
you
know
in
an
area
that
low
participation
is
very
common.
This
is
something
that
I
feel
very
strongly
about,
and
I
know
that
you
know
increasing.
You
know
three
staffers
is
you
know
not
a
small
thing,
but
the
city
is
growing,
the
issues
are
growing
and
we,
I
think
that
we
deserve
that
to
to
the
to
the
people
of
the
of
the
city
and
as
far
as
the
the
cost
of
and
by
the
way,
just
because
I've
been
traveling
a
lot.
K
I've
been
visiting
many
cities
around
us
and
we
will
still
be
a
third
of
their.
You
know
size
and
staff
and
then
money
that
the
allocator
and
community
outreach.
This
is
from
the
council
side.
I
think
that
direct
mail
is
a
good
tool
as
a
very
good
tool
for
communities
like
mine
communities
of
color,
and
I
I
will
like
to
express
my
support
for
this
project.
C
Just
a
question
cindy
when
you
say
that
we
have
one
mailing
per
council
member
per
year
currently.
Is
that
what
we
do
in
the
utilities
newsletter
or
is
that,
in
addition
to.
N
B
N
You
so
it
is
great
outreach
and
it's
been
wonderful-
that
public
utilities
has
allowed
the
council
that
opportunity,
but
it
is
not,
it
isn't
a
replacement
for
reaching
every
household
or
every
business.
D
So
just
a
few
things
I
think,
in
regard
to
a
question
that
we
already
moved
past-
I,
yes,
I
think
the
hybrid
virtual
and
in-person
meetings
are
important,
although
I
will
just
say
that
I
think
there's
been
an
idea
about
having
off-site
meetings
in
specific
communities
and
just
discussing
the
I.t
capabilities
for
that.
I
think
it
would
be
okay
for
those
to
only
be
in
person,
especially
for
trying
to
target
a
specific
community
and
just
the
logistics
of
trying
to
replicate
all
the
technology
in
this
room
in
a
library
somewhere.
D
It
sounds
like
that
may
be
impossible,
so
I
think
yes
as
much
as
we
can,
but
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
off-site
meetings,
and
I
understand
that
those
two
things
combined
may
be
impossible.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
thank
you
that
me,
I
mean
for
me
it's
okay
to
go
to
fully
in
person
if
we're
doing
a
specific,
targeted
meeting
towards
a
specific
community.
D
I
think
that's
important.
I
I'll
also
say
I
support
the
both
of
these
ideas.
I
one
thing
that
makes
me:
I'm
not
sure
that
every
council
member
would
use
a
full
like
utilize,
an
entire
full-time
fte,
nor
would
they
need
14
000
per
year,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
all
be
as
kind
of
frugal
with
that
as
possible
and
not
just
trying
to
create
work.
For
the
sake
of
that.
D
They
can
also
do
policy
work
or
backfill
other
needs
in
the
council
office,
so
that,
for
those
reasons,
I
feel
comfortable,
adding
that
and
that
way
a
council
member
if
they
need
that
full-time
support
can
use
it.
If
not,
then
I
think
it's
I
mean.
I
think
we
should
do
as
much
as
we
can
ourselves
and
try
and
reduce
the
burden
on
staff
where
we
can
so
that
that
additional
work
can
be
kind
of
supplemented
for
the
other
teams
in
the
in
the
council
office
and
same
with
the
funding.
D
D
If
we
start
to
look
at
the
number
of
registered
businesses,
because
I
think
some
districts
may
have
primarily
residences
and
a
mailer
for
them,
if
they're
trying
to
target
residents
and
businesses
would
probably
be
quite
a
bit
less,
I
don't
know
that
to
be
true,
but
my
guess
is
that
dan's
district
may
have
a
lot
fewer
registered
businesses
than
for
sure
on
us.
So
there
may
be
a
reason
to
if
we're.
If
we're
talking
about
targeted
mailers,
that
some
districts
that
need
it
could
have
an
additional,
I
don't
know,
and
we
don't.
A
K
Very
quickly,
then,
so,
are
you
saying
that
if,
if
someone
doesn't
use
it
because
of
the
businesses
or
whatnot,
then
it
goes
to
fund
balance,
or
are
you
saying
that
they
should
stay
and
move
it
around?
Okay,
I.
A
It
goes
to
fund
balance
right
now,
if
you
don't
use
it,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
this
is
for
your
community
and
we
and
sending
the
staff
ensures
that
it's
used
for
the
proper
thing
and
it's
not
used
for
something
other
than
just.
You
know
that
direct
communications
with
the
community
and.
N
It
can
be
used
for
community
building
too,
so
the
there
are
some
specific
things
listed
in
the
policy.
We
need
to
come
back
to
you
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
the
revisions
that
we've
made,
based
on
some
work.
We've
done
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
be
sure
that
it's
it's
a
as
self-explanatory
as
possible
and
as
tight
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
represent
it
to
this
to
the
constituents
that
it's
very
focused
and
to
just
assure
you.
N
We
do
have
adequate
work
for
to
the
people
to.
If
you
have
seven
people
and
you
only
really
needed
six
ftes
in
terms
of
the
budget,
we
can
easily
keep
that
other
person
busy
just
in
filling
in
for
the
other
liaisons,
but
also
as
council
member
mono
described
on
the
policy
work,
so
we're
already
using
the
liaisons.
In
that
way,
we
try
to.
A
L
We're
going
to
move
forward
with
that,
I'm
good
with
that
with
everything
has
been
said.
District
4
has
a
lot
of
communications
and
the
liaisons
is
like
super
extremely
busy,
so
I
could
take
a
one
full
time
liaison
in
terms
of
the
money.
I
think
I'm
with
darren
a
little
bit,
because
I
haven't
even
used
my
whole
budget
for
last
year
and
I
have
a
deadline
or
I
use
it
or
lose.
C
It's
a
question
so
cindy:
are
you
going
to
need
to
have
more
money
to
reconfigure
the
office
to
where
you're
going
to
put
people?
How
are
you
going
to
fit
more
people
in
that
office?
I
feel
like
we
need
to
build
like
a
loft.
N
We're
talking
yeah,
we
are,
we
will
be
talking
about
shared
desk
space,
that
we
there
isn't
any
more
room
that
we
can
manufacture,
but
it
will
cover
the
computers
and
supplies.
A
Thank
you
future
discussion,
chris,
all
right,
we
need
it.
We
need
to
move
on.
We
got
a
closed
session
going
on
and
we're
all
exhausted.
So
we're
item
number
14.
report,
the
chair
of
the
vice
chair,
councilman
ronaldo.
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
report
15.
report.
The
announcement
of
the
executive
director.
A
Nothing
there
we're
on
moving
on
to
item
number
16
is
the
attentive
closed
session
for
the
discussion
of
purchase
exchange
and
lease
of
real
property.
D
A
K
A
And
I'm
a
yes
that
passes
five
to
one
with
council
member
fowler,
absent
we're
entering
a
closed
session
at
this
time.
K
E
E
The
clubhouse,
which
still
stands
was
designed
by
frederick
albert
hale,
the
architect
behind
buildings
like
the
alta
club
in
the
original
salt
lake
city
library.
Once
the
clubhouse
was
built,
it
became
the
social
center
for
many
of
salt
lake
city's
residents.
It
was
such
a
popular
spot
that
many
politicians,
golfers
and
celebrities
of
national
importance
came
to
play
or.