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Swallowed
entirely
by
the
spring
runoff
as
floods
wreaked
havoc
across
the
state,
then
governor
scott
matheson
remarked.
This
is
a
hell
of
a
way
to
run
a
desert.
As
memorial
day
weekend
approached
temperatures,
warmed
and
the
salt
lake
city.
Floods
began
city
creek,
which
was
largely
underground
at
that
time.
Couldn't
handle
the
melting
snow
and
on
the
evening
of
may
28th
flooded
at
the
north
temple
conduit
spilling
millions
of
gallons
of
water
into
the
streets
work.
Crews
did
their
best
to
sandbag
local
businesses
and
direct
the
flow
down
state
street.
B
Even
salt
lake
city,
mayor
ted
wilson,
slung
sandbags
that
sunday,
but
the
flow
continued
on
it
was
stopped
eventually,
somewhere
around
8th
south
by
the
time
june
came
around.
The
water
was
gone,
leaving
a
massive
job
and
cleaning
up
mud
and
debris.
Today,
building
code
improvements
and
better
master
plants
have
ensured
that
we'll
never
have
a
repeat
of
the
floods
of
83.
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B
Sudden
acute
onset
of
hay
fever,
the
last
less
than
four
hours,
sinus
infections,
post
nasal
drip
feeling,
like
you're,
sucking
on
a
tail
pipe
increased
exposure
to
deadly
solar
radiation
due
to
ozone
depletion,
mild
congestion,
medium
congestion,
congestion,
caliente,
itchy,
watery
eyes,
runny,
nose,
headache
or
death.
If
you
answered
yes
to
any
of
these,
you
might
be
entitled
to
a
hefty
cash
settlement.
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You
may
not
be
entitled
to
a
hefty
cash
settlement
due
to
the
onset
of
any
of
all
the
actual
or
fictional
smog
related
illnesses
listed
here.
Opinions
expressed
by
harvard
k,
master
legal
jaguar,
do
not
reflect
those
of
salt
lake
city,
the
mayor
city,
council,
its
employees
or
its
management.
We
do,
however,
encourage
you
to
do
your
part
to
clean
the
air
in
our
fair
city.
Turn
your
key
and
be
idle
free.
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H
H
And
just
a
personal
message
from
me
before
we
actually
start
the
meeting.
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H
So
we'll
start
our
work
session
meeting
with
an
informational
update
from
the
admin
I
have
a
rachel
here
and
I
think-
and
I
have
ashley
here
also-
is
lisa
and
andrew
just
joining
remotely.
Oh
there's
andrew
on
the
on
the
screen.
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Thank
you,
council,
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
your
opening
words.
I
appreciate
that
andrew
johnston
is
joining
us
online
for
the
the
homelessness
portion
and
ashley
cleveland
is
joining
me
here
at
the
table
for
the
community
engagement
update.
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L
L
You'll
see
that
cases
are
up
and
that
trends
with
the
wastewater
and
the
other
graphics
that
I'll
show
you
here
in
a
second
but
again
the
the
story
has
been
over
the
last
couple
of
months
that,
while
I
think
pretty
much,
everybody
has
heard
of
some
people
around
them
who
are
becoming
infected
with
covid
and
being
positive,
even
if
they've
lasted
this
long
without
ever
getting
sick.
L
We
all
know
people
who
are
getting
sick
now
so,
but
they're
staying
out
of
the
hospital.
So
that's
that's
the
good
news
next
slide.
Please.
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So
the
wastewater
data
this
week
does
show
a
bit
more
red
than
we
saw
last
week
in
salt
lake
city
or
in
salt
lake.
The
salt
lake
city
water
facility-
there's
really
no
trend,
so
we're
seeing
actually
just
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
This
is
a
different
slide
from
what
I
normally
show
you,
because
on
the
state
site
it
appears
that
the
cases
aren't
tracking
right.
So
it
looked
a
little
funky.
So
I
just
got
this
from
laura
briefer.
Who
gets
a
special
report
every
week,
so
I
may
start
showing
you
this.
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L
So,
but
we
are
in
that
elevated
category,
so
I'll
bring
this
to
you
I'll,
try
to
bring
this
to
you
each
week,
so
you
can
get
used
to
seeing
this
visual.
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B
L
L
H
L
L
I
think
it
has
been
I'd
like
to
see
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
or
maybe
maybe
this
is
down
the
road
as
we
get
more
analysis
on
this,
but
you
know
basically,
everybody
stopped
testing
at
some
point
right,
and
so
the
data
got
really
hard
to
to
to
track
and
track
it
consistently
in
the
way
that
we
had
been
sort
of
used
to
looking
at
it,
at
least
from
my
lay
person's
standpoint,
and
so
now,
everybody's
testing.
Again
it
feels
like
so
now
it's
like
we're,
we
are
getting.
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L
Any
other
questions
about
the
waste
water.
Okay,
next
slide,
please
so
just
as
I
mentioned
just
to
sum
it
up,
we
do
have
increasing
cases
for
the
past
14
days.
The
new
york
times
is
reporting
us
as
the
fourth
fastest
growing
state
for
new
cases
in
the
country,
but
again,
community
levels
are
still
considered
low
based
on
the
hospitalizations
and
deaths
that
we're
seeing
so
some
bad
news.
Some
good
news
stay
vaccinated,
stay
up
to
date
on
your
vaccinations.
L
Okay,
next
slide,
please
I'm
bringing
you
something
new
starting
this
week
and
we'll
probably
do
this
pretty
regularly
through
the
summer,
but
I
know
that
you
know
something
we
all
care
deeply
about
is
our
water
usage
and
water
conservation
in
the
city.
So
this
first
grafton
graph,
I'm
showing
you,
is
something
that
the
department
of
public
utilities
tracks
and
updates
every
couple
of
days.
L
So
we
use
that
as
the
baseline
to
measure
our
water
conservation
program
efforts,
because
that
was
the
year
that
conservation
programs
really
started
in
the
city.
The
red
line
is
the
average
use
over
the
last
three
years,
so
2019,
2020
and
2021
and
public
utilities
uses
a
rolling
three-year
average
to
compare
the
current
year
use
the
dark.
Blue
shaded
area
represents
water
used
this
year,
starting
in
january.
L
So
this
shows
you
that
we
are
trending
below
our
three
year
average
and
you
know
looking
pretty
good
compared
to
our
baseline
year
of
2000,
but
wanted
to
show
you
this
at
just
as
context
and
to
as
a
way
to
encourage
people
to
you
know
continue
reaching
for
conservation
measures
here.
So
I
may
bring
this
out
from
time
to
time
throughout
the
summer.
Just
to
give
you
something
to
compare
to.
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I
I
have
a
good
question.
I
so
the
the
winter
months
is
that,
basically,
what
we
need
is
that
basically
drinking
water,
like
people
drinking
the
water
right,
because
in
the
winter
we
don't
water,
trees
and
plants
for
the
most
part,
I
don't
think
so.
All
that
spike
is
usually
people
either
enjoying
the
water
pools
and
and
but
also
mostly,
probably,
watering
right
right.
So
this
the
difference
between
that
bottom
line
and
all
that
gigantic
spike
is
potentially
just
lawns
right.
That
is
a
huge
amount
of
water.
N
That
is
very
interesting
to
me.
Okay,
sorry,
I
guess
it
was
less
of
a
question
and
more
of
a
I'm
shocked.
So
thank
you.
L
Yeah,
I
actually
have
a
couple
of
in
a
couple
of
slides,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
watering,
and
I
know
laura
briefer
is-
is
always
tuning
in
and
so,
if
she
ever
have
detailed
questions
or
if
she
ever
wants
to
chime
in
I'm
sure
she's
welcome
to
okay
next
slide,
please.
L
So
this
is
there's
some
really
great
information.
If
you
ever
want
to
really
dig
in
on
this
website
drought.gov-
and
I
probably
won't
show
you
this
all
the
time-
because
I
don't
think
it
shifts
that
much-
you
see
that
utah
is
in
the
extreme
or
severe
drought
phase
and
has
been
for
some
time.
So
that's
that's,
but
that's
the
kind
of
visual
you
can
see.
If
you
look
at
drop.gov
and
this
they
do
this
for
every
state
in
the
country
next
slide.
Please.
L
Okay,
so
this
is.
This
is
a
more
detailed
slide
from
drop.gov
that
I
just
showed
you
that
shows
drought
conditions
for
salt
lake
county-
and
this
shows
you
know
just
essentially
that
100
people,
100
percent
of
people
in
the
county
are
affected
by
the
drought.
Our
entire
county
is
in
a
drought
phase,
which
probably
doesn't
surprise
you.
What
I
thought
was
interesting
is
the
the
stats
that
they
follow.
Here
too.
L
So
here's
a
weekly
watering
guide
that
you
can
find
on.
I
don't
I
didn't
put
the
website
up
there,
but
I
think
you
can
find
it
laura
can
tell
me
where
you
can
find
it
if
she
knows
off
top.
Oh,
I
know
where
it
is.
I'm
sorry,
it's
the
it's
dnr,
it's
the
department
of
natural
resources
website
where
you
can
find
this.
Thank
you.
L
So
this
is
a
weekly
watering
guide
and
you
can
they
update
this
obviously
every
week
and
you
can
look
to
see
how
many
times
you
should
be
watering
your
lawn,
depending
on
the
kind
of
precipitation
we've
gotten.
So
I
wanted
to
introduce
this
to
you
that
you
know
here
in
northern
utah,
where
we've
enjoyed
a
lot
of
precipitation
over
the
last
week.
L
L
They
prefer
that
you
submit
an
email
and
they'll
come
out
and
they'll
get
you
on
the
schedule
to
help
you
figure
out
your
sprinkler
system
and
how
often
you
should
be
watering
based
on
how
your
sprinklers
work.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
know
people
know
about
that
resource,
and
I
think
I
have
one
more
slide
on
this.
Please.
L
You
can
also
just
do
your
own
water
check
because
I'm
sure
they
have
plenty
of,
but
there
may
be
some
delay
at
this
time
of
year.
If
you
ask
them
to
come
out,
so
you
can
do
your
own
water
check.
This
gives
you
the
steps
to
do
it
here.
I
put
the
website
at
the
top
it's
through
the
usu
extension.
They
have
tons
of
great
resources
on
that
website.
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D
Thank
you
for
having
us
happy
pride
month.
Community
outreach
is
happy
to
come
and
give
you
a
update
on
what's
going
on
with
community
engagement
this
month,
so
you
can
always
visit
our
feedback
website.
Our
cute
civic
engagement
team
has
been
awesome
at
keeping
that
up
to
date
and
most
of
our
community
engagement
happening
citywide.
D
Those
opportunities
are
currently
posted.
We
have
meetings
regularly
with
all
division
directors
to
make
sure
that
any
nuances
are
added.
Today,
your
updates
will
be
from
our
planning,
transportation,
sustainability,
economic
development
and
public
utilities
departments.
We
have
our
north
point
small
area
plan.
They
had
a
community
meeting
back
on
may
16th.
There
were
some
deliverables
around
drafting
vision,
goals,
objectives
that
were
due
at
the
end
of
may
and
a
proposed
land
use
plan
and
implementation
plan
was
due
mid-june,
but
complete
expect
to
see
a
complete
draft
in
early
july.
D
D
This
includes
proposed
changes
to
downtown
zones
d,
one
two
three
and
four:
the
gateway
mixed
use
zone,
the
general
commercial
zone
and
firm
base
urban
neighborhood
two
zone
changes
include
height
street
activation
design
standards
and
regular
regulation
regulations
related
to
private,
open
space
and
trees
in
these
zones,
so
that
would
was
probably
going
to
be
very
exciting
to
see
what
feedback
we
hear.
Back
from
that
next
we
have
accessory
dwelling
they're,
uniting
modifications.
D
The
public
draft
was
launched,
may
16th.
This
will
likely
have
a
public
input
period
for
about
two
months,
with
a
planning
commission,
public
hearing
in
late
july
or
august,
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that,
and
then
there
are
affordable
housing
incentives
that
the
planning
commission
is
going
to
be
hearing.
D
Will
they
hurt
on
may
11th
and
staff
is
currently
analyzing
input
from
the
commission
and
public
if
changes
are
made
additional
time
for
public
input
will
be
provided
before
a
second
planning
commission
public
hearing
is
scheduled.
So
please
reach
out
to
the
civic
engagement
team
about
those
or
any
details.
You
would
like
to
follow
up
with
next
slide.
D
Next,
we
have
our
transportation
master
plan.
That's
been
rolling
along
quite
nicely
they're,
currently
seeking
public
feedback
through
a
story
map
on
the
website,
and
it
is
in
english
in
spanish,
and
you
can
see
that
at
the
slc.gov
connect
slc,
slash
website
next
slide,
please
and
then,
as
you
guys
might
affectionately,
know,
salt
lake
city
passed
a
joint
release
resolution
on
electrified
transportation
in
december
of
2020
there's.
D
Currently,
a
business
survey
on
ev
stations
going
sustainability
is
working
across
departments
to
advance
its
goals
related
to
increasing
the
number
of
private
and
public
ev
charging
stations,
as
well
as
electric
electrifying.
Our
internal
fleet,
they've
partnered
with
economic
development,
to
create
the
survey
to
understand
the
current
conditions
and
demand
along
slc
businesses
related
to
ev
charging.
They
also
want
to
increase
awareness
among
businesses
of
the
ev
infrastructure
currently
available
to
them,
and
incentives
that
rocky
mountain
power
and
others
provide
their
general
landing
page
for
evs
is
on
that
website.
D
D
D
Traffic
working
well
discussions
with
the
pride
parade
administrators
have
ensured
that
we
will
have
no
impedance
to
the
parade
route
so
yay
for
that,
and
then
the
water
reclamation
facility
is
hosting
an
open
house
to
update
the
public
on
continuing
progress
of
the
facility,
and
that
happens
tonight
at
rose
park
elementary
from
five
to
seven,
so
that
should
be
pretty
lively
and
then,
lastly,
we
have
city,
creek
water
treatment,
plant
upgrades
the
water
treatment
plant,
pre-construction
activities
begin
in
early
june.
The
canyon
is
open
and
signage
reminds
cyclists
and
motor
vehicles
about
construction
and
speeds.
D
N
My
plea,
mr
chair,
I
so
this
is
mostly
about
the
first
slide
about
feedback
and
I've
been
tracking
this,
because
I'm
pushing
my
you
know
my
neighborhood
and
my
district
to
to
share
their
thoughts
on
this,
and
I
struggle
with
missing
there.
There's
there's
a
few
projects
that
are
missing
there.
N
Just
to
give
you
an
example,
the
the
300
feedback
for
the
300
north
project,
what
the
community
wants
to
see
that-
and
there
is
a
lot
of
neighbors
in
the
area
that
had
a
lot
of
questions
for
me
and
I
was
trying
to
find
it,
and
I
came
here
and
I
was
like
hoping
that
I
will
find
it,
but
it
was
not
there
and
also
because
of
the
new
districts.
N
Some
of
these
projects
have
shifted
lines
and
some
of
the
projects
are
in
between
the
lines
and
they
belong
to
arguably
to
two
different
consoles.
So
I
will
like
to
see,
if
possible,
either
a
map
or
or
or
maybe
share
the
projects
in
different
districts.
N
For
example,
600
north
is
a
boundary
line
between
district
one
and
two
for
for
a
big
chunk
of
it,
not
for
the
whole
thing,
but
at
least
you
know,
I
have
neighbors
in
my
side
of
the
street
that
would
like
to
see
an
opinion
and
they
will
go
probably
to
district
2
and
it
will
not
be
there.
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
update
or
keep
track
of
that.
N
That
would
be
very
important
to
me,
and
I
know
that
there's
so
many
departments
that
are
asking
for
feedback-
and
I
know
it's
hard
to
get
everybody
to
remember,
but
I
will
love
to
encourage
everybody
to
send
it
to
you
feed
to
the
community
engagement,
to
get
it
the
most
updated
possible.
So
thank
you.
O
Thanks
mr
chair
next
slide,
please
I
will
keep
it
short
today.
This
is
the
homeless
resource
center
occupancy
for
the
last
week.
The
number
there
98.4
on
the
far
right
for
the
whole
system
is
actually
slightly
wrong.
It
should
be
98.2.
I
apologize
for
that,
regardless
very
high
occupancy,
as
you
can
tell
next
slide,.
O
We're
on
our
regular
schedule
for
the
summer
about
cleaning
and
abatements
and
resource
fairs
and
kayak
courts
so
should
be
a
resource
fair
next,
a
week
from
this
friday,
this
friday,
typically
the
first
friday
is
the
high
utilizer
court
dockets
through
homeless
court,
another
through
the
justice
court
and
then
jordan
river
should
be
the
focal
point
for
the
next
few
weeks
for
camps
and
cleanups
next
slide.
Please
some
of
the
councilmembers
have
seen
this.
O
The
sully
valley
coalition
and
homelessness,
shelter,
the
homeless,
the
road
home
and
the
fourth
street
medical
clinic,
who
are
the
primary
operators
of
the
overflow
at
ramada
this
past
winter,
with
heart
in
the
city,
have
finalized
a
sort
of
end-of-the-season
report.
I
believe
the
council
staff
has
this.
If
you
haven't
seen
it
yet
just
reach
out,
and
we
make
sure
you
have
the
electronic
version
of
it,
here's
a
really
quick
synopsis
of
it.
O
The
program
actually
had
three
different
programs
within
it,
one
of
which
was
the
quarantine
and
isolation
program
that
had
a
very
few
number
of
people
through
fourth
street
medical
clinic.
The
other
two
were
the
highness
seasonal
hotel,
which
were
the
folks
who
were
over
the
age
of
60,
generally
or
55,
or
had
underlying
health
conditions
that
made
them
more
vulnerable
to
covet
or
other
issues.
O
The
redwood
road
winter
shelter
was
the
united
night
overflow
that
we
had
in
the
front
part
of
the
building.
You
can
see
the
unduplicated
numbers
there,
168
people
served
in
the
high
needs:
seasonal
hotel.
There
are
a
total
of
180
rooms,
82
rooms.
In
that
place.
You
separate
out
about
10
rooms
for
the
quarantine
isolation.
O
You
can
see
pretty
high
occupancy
all
winter
long
and
then
the
redwood
road
shelter
had
680
unduplated
individuals
come
through
those
two
rooms
night
tonight
total
is
8
10.,
here's,
the
total
cost
and
within
the
report
they
break
down
all
the
the
revenue
sources,
including
the
cities
and
how
they
were
used.
O
The
high
needs,
seasonal
hotel
numbers
were
22
in
the
individuals
from
the
168
went
into
permanent
housing.
You
can
see
14
in
temporary
housing.
That
includes
care
centers,
which
a
few
of
them
went
into
family
or
friends
or
other
places
where
they
intended
to
stay,
but
maybe
not
permanently.
O
39
went
back
to
the
resource
centers,
although
everybody
in
those
rooms
were
offered
places
in
the
resource
centers
if
they
wanted
them
and
then
33
returned
to
the
streets.
That
does
not
add
to
168
a
theron,
it's
just
over
108
or
so
a
fair
number
of
individuals
didn't
report
what
they
plan
to
do
afterwards.
We
didn't
know
as
a
system
we
didn't
know
and
then
a
couple
things
at
the
very
bottom
about
the
safety
and
security
aspect.
O
There
was
a
slight
increase
in
the
slc
mobile
app
request
for
service
in
that
area.
It's
unclear
if
there's
actual
increase
in
the
number
of
issues
or
if
there's
a
very
considered
effort
to
advocate
for
and
publicize
use
of,
the
app
for
individuals
which
we
have
seen
over
the
last
couple
years
has
increased.
In
general,
their
police
department
did
report
the
crime
analysis
of
the
half
mile
around
it
revealed
quote
no
observable
negative
impact.
B
Buddies
inc
who
would
own
and
operate
the
concessions
and
carousels
rides
all
of
those
things
at
liberty
park.
It
would
be
a
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
loan
at
seven
point
two
seven
point
two
five
percent
interest
and
would
create
10
new
jobs
in
the
next
year
and
retain
seven
existing
jobs.
So
I'm
sure
roberta
and
peter
can
go
over
that
in
more
detail.
P
I
M
M
Yes,
we'd
love
to
thank
the
council
for
hearing
us
today.
As
mentioned
this
is
an
economic
development
loan
fund,
small
business
loan
for
buddies
inc,
also
doing
business
as
liberty
park
rides,
so
we've
all
been
to
liberty
park
and
ridden
the
rides
for
those
of
us
that
grew
up
here.
It's
been
sort
of
a
mainstay
there
at
liberty
park,
the
previous
owner
has
been
looking
to
move
along
and
a
a
new
set
of
owners
is
interested
in
purchasing
the
business
and
continuing
liberty
park
rides
to
operate
at
liberty
park.
M
They've
been
working
with
our
parks
department
on
on
the
land
lease
of
for
that
part
of
the
park,
and
they
are
moving
forward.
Our
loan
here
is
to
facilitate
the
purchase
of
the
rides
themselves
and
the
concessions
so
continuing
both
of
those
operations
there
at
liberty
park,
as
mentioned
the
loan
amount,
is
150
thousand
dollars.
M
The
terms
of
that
loan
are
a
7.25
percent
interest
rate.
They
received
an
interest
rate
reduction
based
off
of
a
few
of
our
community
development
goals.
They
are
women-owned
business
and
this
the
term
of
this
loan
will
be
over
seven
years.
M
M
H
Okay,
thanks
and
chris,
if
you
have
a
question
and
I'm
not
acknowledging
you
because
you're
on
the
screen
just
go
ahead
and
start
talking
and
if
you.
Q
So
thanks
guys,
so
I
don't
the
so.
Did
this
business
just
come
over
and
say:
hey,
we
have
this
opportunity,
somebody's
leaving
or
you
know,
or
did
you
guys,
recruit
and
then
what
what's
the
experience
of
this
business
like?
Are
you
guys
confident
this
is
going
to
work
out
or
if
it
doesn't
work
out?
What's
the
exit
strategy
and
how
do
we
get
somebody
new.
M
M
We
look
at
this
loan
in
terms
of
really
past
history
and
how
it's
operated.
We
were
able
to
pull.
You
know
business
financials
from
three
years
prior
to
look
at
the
viability
of
the
business
and
and
and
how
they
were
functioning
financially
and
based
off
of
those
those
numbers
and
our
projections.
We
we
found
that
they'll
be
easily
be
able
to
make
that
service
for
this
loan,
so
we
feel
very
confident
that
they'll
be
able
to
meet
the
debt
service
and.
M
So
one
of
our
owners
is
here
today:
dustin
reed.
He
worked
at
snowbird,
one
of
the
restaurants
up
at
snowbird
had
a
relationship
with
the
previous
owner
had
done
some
catering
and
and
other
operations
for
the
owner.
So
they
have
that
relationship.
That's
why
he
feels
comfortable
selling
the
business
to
these
new
owners.
L
K
M
H
H
P
G
Through
it
with
you,
but
also
this
is
again,
this
isn't
necessarily.
G
A
discussion
and
evaluate
it
based
on
certain
parameters,
so
yeah
happy.
H
I
H
Yeah,
that
would
be
nice
because
it
would
be
nice
for
us
to
understand
that
the
risk
factors
that
they're
looking
at
and
what
they're
actually
looking
at
and
asking.
So
we
don't
ask
the
same
question
so
I
don't
see
any
further
questions
from
the
council.
So
thank
you
very
much
peter
roberta.
Thank
you.
Allison.
D
H
B
I
just
have
a
quick
introduction
and
then
I'll
turn
time
over.
As
you
mentioned,
this
is
the
department
of
ims
which
provides
technical
support
to
the
city.
They
operate
as
what
is
called
an
internal
service
fund,
which
means
that
they
receive
money
from
inter
fund
transfers
from
other
all
of
the
other
city
departments
and
funds.
B
The
recommended
budget
totals
just
over
25
million
dollars,
which
is
a
32
percent
increase
from
last
year.
The
budget
increase
comes
from
eight
new
staff
positions,
salary
and
personal
services
increases
and
various
contract
increases
I'll
turn
time
over
to
aaron
bentley
and
his
staff
and
crew,
the
ims
director
and
cio
so
that
he
they
can
go
through
more
details
about
the
budget.
They
have
a
presentation
as
well.
R
Thanks
lahua
first
just
want
to
thank
lahua,
jen
and
all
of
your
staff
as
an
internal
service
department.
We
sit
in
an
interesting
spot
where
we
get
to
serve
your
group,
but
also
have
them
work
with
us
quite
a
bit
and
as
noel
gets
into,
we
have
a
bit
of
a
split
presentation:
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
budget,
but
also
about
the
workday
erp
project,
but
you
all
have
representation
on
most
of
the
projects
that
we
sit
on.
R
R
It's
a
little
hard
to
read
but
I'll
kind
of
I'll
walk
through
this
for
you
and
I'm
a
bit
of
a
storyteller.
So
just
I've
been
at
the
city
for
20
years.
When
I,
when
I
came
to
the
city
from
intel,
I
wondered
why
we
were
called
information
management
services
and
some
of
you
may
wonder
that
weren't
they
just
the
I.t
department,
the
first
director
and
cindy
feel
free
to
correct
me
as
I'm
wrong
here,
but
the
first
director
of
ims
as
a
division
was
ken
kelly.
R
He
was
also
the
city
recorder
at
the
time,
so
the
department
made
a
bit
of
sense.
We
were
managing
information
that
way
the
last
administration
they
came
and
said.
Well,
maybe
we
should
rename
this
department
to
follow
what
we
see
at
the
county
or
the
state,
but
never
followed
through
with
that,
but
it's
interesting,
as
our
department
has
evolved
in
the
last
few
years,
under
the
administration
of
mayor
mendenhall
and
with
your
support,
I
think
the
name
of
information
management
services
makes
a
bit
more
sense.
R
Now
we
recently
had
the
opportunity
to
have
our
divisions
come
together
and
come
up
with
a
new
mission
statement,
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
it
to
you,
because
it
I
think
it
speaks
a
little
to
to
what
our
department
does
now
more
than
what
it
did
when
I
started
here.
It
says
our
mission
is
to
be
a
trustworthy
and
valued
partner
that
delivers
the
right
information
to
the
right
audience
at
the
right
time.
R
We
have
we're
set
up
in
divisions
and
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
walk
through
those
traditional.
I
t
divisions
are
software
services
with
reza
faragi
as
the
as
the
division
director
jason
struck
over
network
services
and
daryl
lopez
over
our
field
services.
That's
the
group
that
come
out
and
help
with
your
computers,
or
anything
like
that.
This
is
where
we
start
to
differ
from
most
I.t
organizations.
R
We
have
nick
krieger,
who
we
recently
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
brought
over
from
public
utilities
and
he's
our
chief
data
officer
and
he's
over
gis,
which
is
our
mapping
services.
You
recently
received
a
presentation
from
valerie
from
that
work
group
of
how
they
worked
with
finance.
To
show
how
sales
tax
is
distributed
throughout
the
city,
these
are
the
information
they
start
to
bring
in,
so
we
can
make
data
driven
decision.
R
That's
been
wasted
throughout
the
world
in
smart
city
initiatives
that
are
maybe
pilots,
that
just
kind
of
went
dead
but
being
a
clever
city
is
where
we
want
to
be,
and
then
last-
and
you
know
this
group-
probably
the
most
intimate-
is
john
rand.
Who
is
our
director
over
media
and
engagement
services?
I
joked
when
I
came
in.
We
were
meeting
with
the
new
harvard
fellow
and
I
said
when
I
started
here
for
overtime,
I
would
stand
on
a
box
in
the
back
corner
and
film
council
meetings
and
dustin
phillips
who's.
R
Our
cyber
security
manager
would
stand
by
this
door
and
film
the
other,
and
this
is
how
we
transform
john's
group,
is
much
more
than
slc
tv.
They
do
the
they
have
civic
engagement
working
with
them.
Now
that
came
over
from
community
neighborhoods,
they
work
heavily
with
the
departments
in
getting
the
voice
out
of
the
city
and
hearing
what
our
our
community
wants.
So
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
R
Our
department
has,
I
would
say,
been
blessed
to
grow
drastically
over
the
last
few
years
as
mayor
mendenhall
is
focused
on
centralizing
services
across
the
city
and
working
in
collaborative
efforts,
as
I
mentioned
in
a
minute,
you'll
you'll
hear
from
noel
as
he
talks
about
the
erp
project.
This
isn't
an
I.t
project.
It's
not
a
finance
project,
it's
not
an
hr
project,
but
it's
a
city-wide
project
and
under
that
vision
and
under
your
support,
we've
been
centralizing
services
and
growing.
R
So,
first
part
of
our
budget.
That's
a
big
increase
there
next
slide.
Oh
sorry,
next
slide
joseph's
next
lighting
for
me,
but
you
guys
aren't
so
there
we
go
thanks.
So
contract
contractual
increases
for
the
most
part
when
we
sign
contracts
or
we
work
through
our
contracts,
we
do
three-year
contracts.
It
just
happens
this
this
year.
A
lot
of
those
three-year
contracts
are
up
and
we're
renewing.
R
So
in
those
you'll
see
like
our
microsoft
office,
365
licenses
that
we
will
now
go
into
contracts
or
we
have
quotes
that
are
in
this
budget
proposal
for
the
next
three
years.
So
what
you'll
see
you
see
a
significant
jump
of
over
10
percent
there
in
that
area,
but
that
should
hold
steady
for
the
next
three
years.
You'll
see
slight
increases
as
staff
increase,
and
we
have
to
buy
additional
head
licenses
for
that
head
count.
But
that's
what
you're
seeing
other
licensing
increases
during
cove?
R
R
Traditionally,
when
we
would
work
with
software,
vendors
or
just
contracts,
we
would
see
anywhere
from
three
to
six
percent
increases
in
our
annual
year
over
year
we
have
seen
some
vendors
come
back
with
twenty
percent
increases
on
those
type
of
in
vendors.
We're
saying:
well,
maybe
we
shouldn't
be
doing
business
with
you
anymore,
because
that
extreme
is
extreme,
and
we
recently
saw
that
with
our
endpoint
management
system.
R
When
we
asked
for
more
licensing
that
you
had
awarded
the
department
through
budget
amendment
7,
that
vendor
came
back
with
a
20
increase
and
instead
of
just
saying
we're
just
going
to
eat
that
we've
went
out
and
found
another
vendor
who's,
much
more
willing
to
do
business
in
a
reasonable
way.
But
we
are
continuing
to
see
those
increases.
R
The
other
thing
that
we're
working
on
from
a
security
standpoint
is
more
and
more
migration
to
the
cloud,
and
part
of
this
is
to
move
the
asella
system
which
is
used
for
permits
and
licensing
to
move
that
to
the
cloud
for
increased
security,
but
also
increased
functionality.
Since
that
system
came
about
no
was
that
15
years
ago,.
R
R
Under
this
slide
is
where
we
have
several
initiatives
in
budget
amendment
7,
the
council
awarded
the
department,
several
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
increase
our
cyber
security
presence,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
to
bring
in
an
additional
fte.
We
have
recently
hired
that
fte
and
maybe
I'll
share
a
little
experience
about
that.
One
of
the
slides
that
will
come
up
is
our
apprenticeship
program.
R
The
person
that
now
holds
the
cyber
security
position.
Her
name
is
lucia
von
hill.
She
started
off
as
the
city
as
an
apprentice
she's,
an
immigrant
from
moldova
came
over
and
wanted
the
opportunity
to
increase
her
technology
skills.
She
had
been
working
in
that
sector
in
moldova,
but
when
she
came
to
the
united
states
needed
more
experience
so
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
we,
she
was
an
apprentice
and
then
hired
on
about
six
months
ago,
as
one
of
our
network
engineers
and
just
this
week
was
offered
the
position
as
a
cyber
security
engineer.
R
So
this
is
a
great
story
for
us
of
how
the
apprenticeship
program
helped
us
grow
and
also
helped
us
learn
from
that.
So
also
on
the
cyber
security
standpoint,
we
have
signed
a
contract
for
the
major
piece
of
that.
It's
called
a
sim
which
stands
for
security
and
event
management
system.
All
of
your
computers
out
here
are
kind
of
keeping
track
of
what
you're
doing
and
writing
logs
and
all
of
our
servers
and
all
of
our
systems.
R
For
a
long
time,
we've
been
manually
trying
to
keep
track
of
that,
and
now,
with
the
procurement
of
this
software,
it
brings
it
into
one
central
warehouse
where
we
can
be
alerted
for
anomalies
or
any
struggles
that
way
other
pieces.
That
I'll
point
out
here
is
the
apprenticeship
program
that
was
originally
funded
by
the
cares
dollars
that
we
received
and
then
has
been
funded
outside
of
the
department
of
this
year,
and
we
would
like
to
bring
that
in
and
continue
that
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
R
We
are
in
the
beginning
of
a
wi-fi
rebuild
project
as
you
go
through
the
buildings
and
you're
connecting
through
our
wireless
network,
it's
time
to
refresh
those.
So
this
is
a
three-year
project,
and
this
request
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
to
support
the
first
year.
One
of
the
things
that
will
come
with
this
as
we
build
out
this
is
the
city.
R
Connect
network
will
be
available
in
all
city
buildings
as
we
build
that
out,
so
we'll
be
providing
free
public
wi-fi,
as
well
as
our
internal
wi-fi,
that
we
do
business
and
all
the
city
buildings
throughout
the
city
the
other
pieces.
Here
we
continue
to
work
on
our
analytics
footprint
and
we
can
talk
about
that
and
last
one
I'll
probably
point
out
here-
is
the
fiber
build
out
and
for
ours
connecting
our
city's
facilities
as
we
use
funding
our
future
dollars
and
we
repair
the
streets.
R
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
us
to
be
running
conduit
and
fiber
to
stitch
the
city
together,
so
that
we
can
begin
to
become
a
smart
city,
but
also
so
that
we
defer
the
costs
of
us
paying
the
provider
as
an
isp
and
we
can
become
our
own
isp
so
each
year
as
we
build
this
out
and
the
streets
department
comes,
jason,
strzok
will
be
working
with
them
to
build
the
conduit
into
the
city.
So
we
can
connect
us
better
and
bring
those
services.
So
next
slide.
R
All
right-
and
then
I
just
want
to
talk
quickly
about
this
apprenticeship
program
when
we
first
did
this.
It
was
a
bit
of
a
pilot
and
we've
learned
quite
from
a
lot
from
it.
I
I
mentioned
lucia.
We
have
a
lot
of
standouts
there
I'll
mention
one
other.
Who
was
our
very
first
apprentice,
and
this
apprentice
is
graduating
from
high
school
next
week
from
the
international
school
he's
21
he's
a
refugee
from
ethiopia
and
the
cool
story
about
this
is
he
came
wanting
to
gain
we?
R
He
was
referred
to
us
by
catholic
community
services,
so
he's
an
unaccompanied
minor
came
across
to
the
united
states
when
he
came,
he
wanted
to
learn
technology
and
we
were
able
to
offer
him
a
job
working
with
us
after
school
at
night.
He
recently
received
the
utah
jazz,
four-year
scholarship
and
so
he'll
be
able
to
attend
the
university
for
four
years
full
ride,
and
if
you
ever
want
to
see
the
video
I
sent
it
to
the
mayor,
it's
pretty
incredible.
At
first,
he
didn't
get
what
was
going
on
the
jazz.
R
Had
him
come
to
the
stadium
and
he's
just
sitting
there,
and
it
was
one
of
their
surprise
things,
but
when
he
found
out
that
he
had
that
he
was
so
elated
he
texted
joseph
and
myself,
and
just
it
changed
his
life
and
so
for
us.
This
apprentice
program
we've
seen
the
effect.
It's
changed
our
department,
but
how
it
changed.
R
The
life
of
of
the
residents
that
live
here
in
salt
lake
city,
so
love
to
have
you
sometime,
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
this
gentleman,
but
next
year
or
next
week
on
tuesday
he'll
be
graduating,
then
off
to
the?
U
this
fall.
So
what
the
program
has
evolved
into
is
a
relationship
with
the
state
of
utah
with
their
workforce
services
program
and
the
refugee
outreach,
but
also
with
the
community
programs-
that's
the
first
half
of
this,
but
our
local
community
group
and
we're
working
with
the
mayor's
office
on
this.
R
So
what
we're
looking
to
fund
is
10
to
12
employees
for
the
next
year.
The
workforce
services
is
working
on
their
part.
What
will
happen
is
on
saturdays
they'll,
have
an
opportunity
to
receive
some
training
that
the
state
of
utah
is
providing
through
google,
where
they
learn
basic
skills.
You
know
some
of
these
will
already
have
some
advanced
skills
like
lucia,
had
and
then
during
the
week.
A
lot
of
these
people
already
have
jobs
and
they're
trying
to
transition.
R
The
goal
is
that
after
a
year,
they
will
have
some
of
the
basic
technology,
certifications,
plus
a
year's
worth
of
experience,
and
their
resumes
would
be
forwarded
on
to
the
association
of
I.t
managers
of
utah,
which
I
belong
to,
which
has
not
just
government
but
every
large
corporation,
who
has
a
cio.
We
share
resumes
through
that.
I
will
mention-
maybe
just
a
couple
of
our
other
employees
that
have
our
apprentices
that
have
graduated
out.
R
One
of
them
recently
joined
the
air
force,
others
have
found
local
jobs
and
our
last
in
apprentice
just
this
last
week
she
starts
next
week
as
a
sales
force
admin
at
a
local
company
and
she
just
graduated
from
uvu,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
success
for
this
and
we
hope
that
you'll
support
it
next
slide,
I'm
going
to
walk
through
just
where
we
sit
from
an
fte
request.
So
you
understand
what
we're
asking
for
here.
R
It
is
an
additional
eight
ftes,
also
as
part
of
the
survey,
the
salary
surveys,
you'll
notice,
that
the
funding
of
286
000
dollars
and
some
change
there
from
the
non-represented
employees.
We
have
the
top
three
in
in
that
area
for
non-represented
cyber
security,
engineer,
network,
engineer
and
network
system
engineer,
so
that
money,
along
with
a
couple
other
positions
if
funded,
will
go
towards
that
next
slide.
Joseph
the
the
first
request
stand
in
the
office
of
the
cio.
The
first
is
to
ask
for
a
deputy
director.
For
me,
the
department's
grown
a
lot.
R
We
did
have
a
deputy
director,
probably
15,
16
years
ago,
and
then
during
hard
times.
That
was
let
go
but
looking
for
a
deputy
director
to
balance
some
of
the
work
that
we
have
in
our
department
and
the
growth
there.
The
second
is
an
enterprise
technology
solution
manager
over
the
city's
radio
systems.
R
The
city,
as
you
know,
is
moving
off
of
our
own
radio
system
in
some
instances
to
uca,
which
is
the
emergency
radio
system,
that's
funded
through
your
cell
phone
bills,
but
there's
a
part
of
the
city
as
well
that
that
infrastructure
we're
not
moving
away
from
and
we'll
be
needing
to
build
that
that's
for
the
airport,
our
public
utilities,
our
public
works,
our
sustainability,
all
of
those
that
uca
does
not
qualify
as
emergency
workers.
R
The
city
will
be
rebuilding
our
network
to
a
new
standard
and
we'll
be
making
sure
that
those
two
systems
talk
together
and
also
with
that
comes
the
procurement
of
a
lot
of
radios
in
the
tune
of
several
million
dollars.
But
what
we're
looking
for
is
someone
that
can
oversee
this
relationship
with
uca,
with
all
the
radio
systems
all
of
the
departments,
as
well
as
oversee
our
wireless
network.
R
Many
of
our
remote
sites
in
the
city
are
connected
from
the
mountain
and
instead
of
us
paying,
for
you,
know
an
internet
connection.
There
we
beam
that
connection
out,
and
so
this
position
would
oversee
all
of
that
work
and
the
collaboration
of
that
so
next
slide.
R
The
next
is
under
our
software
services
group,
and
this
would
be
a
software
support.
Team
member
we've
grown
a
lot
as
we've
moved
and
added
new
systems
and
one
of
the
systems
that
we've
worked.
A
lot
is
in
the
salesforce
platform.
Our
business
licensing
system
is
now
built
on
salesforce
as
well
of
a
lot
of
the
crm
work
and
the
engagement
work
in
our
and
that's
what
this
position
would
be
for
next
slide.
R
Next
is
our
network
services.
One
is
the
continual
funding
of
the
cyber
security
position
that
was
funded
in
ba7,
and
the
next
is
a
network
engineering
team.
As
we
start
to
move
our
our
systems
to
the
cloud,
we're
needing
more
staff
and
expertise
as
we
grow
that
way,
so
that's
what
that
position
is
for
next
slide.
Please.
R
In
our
field,
services
divisions
there's
no
change,
but
that
just
shows
you
the
staffing
number
and
how
we're
organized
and
then
in
our
multimedia
services
division.
This
is
john's
group.
Oh
sorry,
next
slide,
please
thanks
joseph
we're
asking
for
an
additional
civic
engagement
team
member.
R
The
demand
that
we're
seeing
from
this
work
group
as
we
go
and
engage
with
the
community
is
increasing,
and
this
is
to
help
with
that
workload,
and
the
second
ft
is
for
a
graphic
designer
when
the
departments
put
in
their
requests
to
the
mayor
for
for
budget
request,
two
departments
ask
for
graphic
designers
and
what
the
mayor
decided
to
do
and
we
support
is
to
move
in
that
same
model
of
centralizing
some
graphic
design
work
so
instead
of
each
department
having
their
own
graphic
designer
or
those
new
requesting,
they
can
work
out
of
this
pool
ronnie
buttons,
our
existing
graphic
designer,
but
this
would
add
additional
one
so
that
we
could
further
centralize
that
work
next
slide.
R
Please,
the
last
ft
we're
requesting
is
a
data
scientist
to
oversee
the
data,
work
and
analytical
work
of
the
city.
Chief
brown
recently
reclassified
one
of
his
positions
and
has
a
data
scientist
there
that
we
that
since
started
and
we're
working
with,
but
the
goal
here,
is
to
also
have
a
data
scientist
to
help
with
the
other
parts
of
the
city
and
work
in
collaboration
with
lindsay
who's,
their
new
data
scientist,
as
we
as
you've
talked
recently
about.
R
How
do
we
justify
you
know
as
we
look
at
how
we,
how
we're
distributing
the
work
out
from
the
police
department
using
alternative
models
we'll
be
using
this
staff
member
to
help
tell
the
story:
does
the
finances
behind
that
work?
Are
the
work?
Is
the
work
that's
happening
and
and
the
work
they're
doing?
Is
it
worth
the
investment
that
you're
putting
also
as
we
move
workday
to
the
into
the
to
the
new
realm,
and
we
look
at
our
finances
and
trending
we'll
also
be
using
this
data
scientist
for
this
purpose?
R
If
you
go
the
next
slide,
this
is
just
our
final
group,
and
this
is
noel's
group
here,
and
this
is
our
innovations
team
and
we're
not
asking
for
any
staff
increases
at
this
time.
So
I'm
open
for
questions
at
this
time
and
then
afterwards,
we'll
transfer
quickly
over
to
noel
for
the
workday
update.
M
Quick
question:
I
don't
understand
the
on
slide
12.
I
think
it
is
10
ftes
in
the
field,
services
division.
Those
are
not
new
positions,
those
are
existing.
Those.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
so
I
got
stuck
on
the
conduit
and
trying
to
make
a
clever
city.
Is
that
what
it
was
and-
and
we
already
have-
the
city
is
embarked
on
some
huge
projects
right
now,
900
south
900
west,
I
mean
we
also
have
some
gigantic
switch
repairs
happening.
R
That's
exactly
and
that's
what
the
funding
is
for
us
to
for
us
to
pay
our
portion
of
that.
So
as
we
as
public
utilities
build
out
their
part
or
as
the
streets
crew
and
as
engineering
designs,
new
roads,
we
meet
with
them
monthly,
to
coordinate
where
they're
headed
and
where
we
need
to
put
the
conduit
and
fiber
to
so.
We
can
connect.
N
And
to
follow
up
to
that,
are
there
partnerships
to
to
happen
with
public
other
public
service
organizations
to
service?
You
know
gas
company.
You
know
internet
companies
that
are
digging
under
all
the
all
the
people
that
are
digging
under
on
the
right
away
or
on
the
strip
and
all
these
public.
N
So
they
can
actually
maybe
throw
another
pipe
in
there
for
for
us
and
leave
it
there.
It's
other
ways
to
partner
up
with
them
and
say
you
know:
can
you
do
that
for
us
and
how
much
it
will
cost
us?
Will
that
be
cost
efficient,
since
they
are
already
digging
and
some
of
those
that
are
digging
on
my
front
yard
right
now
putting
a
little
conduit-
and
I
was
like
actually
very
fast,
so
I
wonder
if
they
can
just
throw
another
one
and
leave
it
there
for
the
future.
For
for
you.
R
Yeah
that
and
jason
struck
who's
over
that
division.
That's
what
he
does
currently
with
those
groups
or
you
know,
with
uta
or
ue.
You
know
all
of
those.
Those
are
the
partnerships
we
have
in
place
and
we
work
through
those.
We
do
a
lot
of
sharing
of
conduit
where
they
have
the
conduit
and
we'll
run
our
fiber,
but
yeah.
H
Thanks
that
kind
of
answered
my
question
about
just
the
whole
digital
divide,
but
that's,
I
think
you
got
the
actions
going
on
there.
I
appreciate
that
I
just
have
one
question
on
the
the
apprenticeship
program
somewhere
else.
The
discussions
we've
had
was
a
million
dollars
set
aside
for
apprenticeship
programs
is
this
on
top
of
that,
and
this
is
separate
from
that
million
dollars.
R
H
Gotcha,
that's
okay,
so
that
was
my
question
there.
And
can
you
just
touch
on
briefly
the
laptop
donation
program?
You
have
a.
A
Yeah,
so
we
piloted
the
laptop
donation
program
a
few
months
ago,
and
that
was
very
successful
and
we
have
since
met
with
our
partners
on
that
and-
and
we
feel,
like
we've-
got
a
pretty
good
package
ready
to
go
out
when
we've
got
applications.
We've
we've
developed
communications
and
partnerships
with
the
utah
communities
connect,
which
is
the
digital
equity
coalition
locally,
and
and
when
we
we
got
through
that
we
had.
I
think
we
had
about
25
units
that
we're
ready
to
go.
A
And
then
a
part
of
our
apprentice
program
is
going
to
be
getting
those
units
ready
for
reuse,
because
we
need
to
go
through
a
process
to
do
that.
So
we
are
really
hopeful
to
be
able
to
start
moving
forward
on
that
get
some
apprentices
in
place
that
can
help
us
clean
those
out
and
and
get
through
that
disbursement.
But
I
think
that
this
next
round
the
next
round
grows
in
the
way
that
we
are.
A
N
Yeah
right
in
civic
engagement,
I
was
looking
you
know,
you
guys
talked
about
civic
engagement
and
I
still
confused
about.
Why
is
it
the
role
of
ims
and
again,
forgive
me
I'm
the
newest
kid
here.
But
what
is
the
role
of
ims
to
do
the
graphic
design
for
the
other
departments?
N
If
I
understood
that
right
and
and
also
the
the
the
budgeted
amount
for
a
graphic
designer,
that's
high,
so
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
comparable
amount,
it's
about
80
000
for
a
graphic
designer,
and
you
know
I
hired
athletic
signers
very
often,
and
that
is
a
very
competitive
pay.
So
can
you
explain
explain
a
little
more
about
the
role
of
this
graphic
designer
and
this
community
engagement
person
as
it
relates
to
all
the
departments
in
the
city.
R
Sure
so
the
civic
engagement
specialist,
any
engagement,
the
city
does
for
redesign
of
streets
where
we
go
out
and
we
create
websites
or
we
go
out
and
we
put
a
table
out
at
an
event
and
talk
about
that.
That's
what
civic
engagement
does
and
they
moved
from
community
neighborhoods
a
couple
last
fiscal
year
of
the
fiscal
year
before,
because
the
work
they
were
doing
with
media
services
was
overlapping
so
much
it
made
sense
to
have
them
work
together
and
to
share
resources.
B
R
Yeah
yeah
and
I
I
can't
spit
out
the
dollar
amounts
for
you,
but
I
just
know
that's
that
group
of
the
civic
engagement,
the
social
media
and
that
are
all
in
those.
Those
are
the
pay
grades,
but
I
can't
translate
dollars
for
you.
I'd
have
to
get
david
to
help
me
do
that
piece.
Thank.
N
R
H
A
A
A
A
Training
starts
next
week.
The
website
for
and
the
future
next
slide,
please
quickly.
Workday
is
an
erp.
We've
been
referring
to
it
as
pam,
also
people,
assets
and
money.
So
this
is
us
disassembling.
A
A
You
know
payroll
time
tracking,
as
well
as
finance
and
later
on,
we
will
implement
adaptive
planning,
which
will
be
a
tool
that
lets
us
do
budgeting,
budget
forecasting
and
tools.
With
that
next
slide.
Please
timeline.
We
have
three
timelines
in
motion.
Human
resources
is
our
phase
one,
and
that
goes
live
at
the
end
of
this
month.
A
Right
now,
you
may
have
heard
we're
in
what
we
call
a
cut
over
period,
so
we
are
closing
down
some
of
the
transactions
that
happen
within
our
existing
system
so
that
we
can
move
that
data
out
of
those
systems
into
the
new
system,
and
there
will
be
a
period
of
time
when
hr
will
have
to
do
some
catch-up
work
to
do
that,
and
so
we
are
on
target
there.
A
Payroll
is
a
longer
run.
Payroll
is
complicated.
Time
tracking
is
complicated
when
you
have
a
lot
of
unions
and
a
lot
of
rules
that
we've
made
up
over
time
to
do
that
to
calculate
the.
If
this,
then
that
if
this,
then
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
time,
energy,
and
so
we
are
in
the
midst
of
payroll
and
time
tracking
and
and
we're
doing
that,
work
finance
is
the
next
part.
I
think
we
have
a
handful
of
you'll
see
the
the
wheel
of
work
that
we
are
on
there
in
this
last
month.
A
We
came
together
as
a
group,
and
we
did
the
architecture
for
those
10
different
functional
areas
and
we
met
as
a
group.
One
day
we
had
as
many
as
71
city
employees
engaged
for
a
week
to
talk
about
the
various
things,
but
for
the
most
part,
we've
done.
We've
completed
the
architecture
phase
of
that,
and
that
is
basically
setting
that
foundation
and
our
our
work
groups
are
now
meeting
individually
with
the
consultant.
A
The
finance
is
scheduled
to
go,
live
with
the
calendar
year,
payroll
and
finance.
We
have
to
stay
on
quarters.
Ideally,
we
stay
on
the
bigger
blocks
of
financial
or
calendar
years.
It
just
helps
with
data
mashing
of
two
different
systems
and
and
makes
the
accountant's
life
a
little
bit.
P
A
This
is
just
something
to
kind
of
show
the
the
various
functional
areas,
and
we
won't
spend
too
much
time,
but
you
can
see
that
all
most
all
of
our
business
processes
are
changing
into
this
system,
and-
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
working
right
now
to
come
together
to
do
this
work
and
and
and
in
this
graphic
we've
merged
phase
one
b
with
phase
two,
because
it's
just
easier
now
to
refer
to
it
as
phase
two
as
we've
now
joined
and
and
we're
hopefully
wrapping
up
phase
one
here
in
about
six
weeks
next
slide.
A
A
The
team
this
represents
a
fraction
of
our
team,
a
fraction
of
our
team.
These
are
the
leads
of
our
team
right
when
we
started
this
project.
We
wanted
to
take
a
very
formal
process
to
how
we
built
this
team
right.
We've
adopted
what
is
called
a
sponsor
model,
where
we
have
leadership
playing
a
strong
role
in
the
decisions
we
make,
having
a
strong
active
role
in
the
project,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
policy
and
there's
a
lot
of
resources
that
are
going
into
this.
A
But
we've
built
a
strong
team
around
that
in
that
sponsor
model,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
to
keep
an
eye
on
this
sponsor
model
as
we
take
on
more
big
projects.
Right
leadership
plays
a
very
important
role.
Our
job
as
my
job
and
my
team's
job
really
is
to
help
coordinate
those
who
know
what
the
job
is.
That
needs
to
be
done,
and
the
communication
with
the
between
the
leaders
playing
that
re,
that
liaison
role
to
help
really
give
that
structure.
A
So
in
this
chart,
you'll
see
the
sponsors
you'll
see
our
project
team
and
you'll
see
those
functional
areas.
What
you're
not
seeing
in
this
chart
is
all
the
subject
matter:
experts
that
we
are
engaging
with
on
a
weekly
basis
in
payroll
accounting
procurement,
in
contracts,
projects
and
and
all
of
the
various
areas
that
are
happening
there.
We've
also
developed
a
network
of
communication
folks,
our
change
champion
networks.
A
When
we
started
this
project,
we,
the
original
nine
of
this
project,
certified
in
change
management,
organizational
change.
We
knew
that
as
much
as
this
is
a
technical
project.
It's
also
it's
a
bigger
change
project,
and
so
we
are
operating
under
those
philosophies
and
we
have
a
change
network
that
meets
on
a
very
regular
basis
and
when
you
see
the
communications
that
are
coming
out
right,
we're
trying
to
maintain
consistent
updates
and
communications.
A
Our
hope
is
that
when
we
go
live,
no
one
is
surprised
that
there's
a
project
called
workday
and
then
we've
also
got
our
training.
We've
just
completed
train
the
trainer
work.
This
last
week,
I
was
on
a
call
where
we
had
121
city
employees
going
through
the
train.
The
trainer
exercises
right
so
that
we
have
an
army
of
folks
now
in
the
city
that
are
familiar
with
workday
for
the
human
resources
portion
of
it.
That
will
be
able
to
go
out
into
their
work
groups
and
communicate
and
train
that.
A
A
I
just
put
this
in
next
week's
a
big
week:
training
starts
so
you
may
get
some
training
and,
and
the
training
starts,
our
train.
The
trainers
are
ready
to
go.
We've
had
a
couple
meetings
with
them
today.
Training
for
human
resources
starts
next
week.
A
Know
that
you
have
a
lot
of
things
to
do
today,
and
so
I
want
to
be
quick,
our
workday
site.
All
of
this
information
is
available
through
slc
gov
workday
we've
got
it
broken
down
by
where
we
are
in
our
project,
what
it
is
and
over
in
the
workday
user
resources
are
all
of
our
training
aids
videos
on
how
to
use
that
and
as
we
go
and
we
grow,
this
will
become
a
library
for
employees
to
research
to
you'll
also
start
seeing
some
little
handouts.
A
A
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
software
as
a
service.
In
my
experience
with
technology
in
the
city
and
on
projects,
I've
been
with
the
city
for
a
while.
We
often
get
to
a
finish
line.
We
say
the
house
is
built
and
we're
sort
of
done
with
software
as
a
service
and
with
workday
it's
one
of
those
projects
that
we're
probably
never
really
done
right.
The
the
product,
the
value
of
software
as
a
service,
is
that
product
is
constantly
growing
every
week.
They
have
updates
biannually.
A
We
have
disassembled
30
different
pieces
of
software
and
generations
of
workarounds
to
try
to
get
this
system
to
do
what
it
is
out
of
the
gate,
we're
not
going
to
hit
100
percent
right,
we're
going
to
have
to
make
adjustments
and
grow
and
we're
asking
our.
We
will
be
asking
our
work
groups
to
behave
in
different
ways,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
constant
evolution
in
that
respect
and
and
the
ongoing
administration.
A
We
have
built
a
team
to
support
that
ongoing
administration.
We
have
people
in
finance,
we
have
people
in
hr
that
are
technologists
and
we
have
people
in
ims
that
are
a
technologist
to
support
this,
so
that
we
are
able
to
evolve
those
business
practices
over
time
and
to
continue
to
grow
and
as
we
set
goals
for
ourselves
around
financial
transparency
programs
projects
and
things
like
that,
we
should
be
able
to
be
more
agile
to
accommodate
that
yeah.
H
I
think
you
know
I'm
gonna,
I'm
sorry
dad!
That's
it.
We
got.
We
got
to
go
on
here.
Aaron.
Thank
you
for
the
budget,
stuff
noel.
Thank
you
for
the
update
and
work
day.
I
really
appreciate-
and
I
think
the
city
in
overall
really
appreciates
his
work,
because
that's
so
vitally
important,
but
thanks
for
the
briefing
and
if
you
have
any
questions
reach
out
to
noel
he's,
probably
got
a
lot
of
answers.
I'm
always
here
all
right.
D
E
Chair,
can
I
just
ask
aaron
if
you
will
send
us
the
clip,
because
I
like
got
teary-eyed
when
you
were
talking
about?
Oh.
B
H
Thank
you
very
much
move
around
I'm
number
four
fiscal
year,
2022-23
9-1-1
budget
department-
and
I
think
we
have
been
with
us
here
steven
is
on
the
screen
and
lisa
and
kehoe
is
here.
Oh
and
joseph's
still.
M
Mr
chair,
like
most
general
fund
departments,
you
can
find
the
information
in
the
budget
book
in
three
different
places.
The
first
is
key
changes
on
page
45..
M
M
M
M
The
department
continued
to
experience
relatively
high
turnover
in
calendar
year
2021..
This
has
actually
been
an
ongoing
issue
for
the
department
for
the
past
several
years.
However,
the
department
has
said
that
in
the
last
few
months
since
the
salary
enhancement
was
implemented,
they've
seen
significant
improvement
in
retention
and
the
number
of
applicants
for
dispatcher
positions.
M
The
911
department
is
unique
in
that
it
is
very
easy
to
measure
what
they
do,
because
it
is
calls
for
service.
They
experienced
an
8
000
increase
in
9-1-1
calls
over
the
last
12-month
period,
but
they
also
experienced
a
43
000
decrease
in
non-emergency
calls,
so
the
911
calls
went
up.
The
non-emergency
calls
went
down.
The
overall
volume
of
calls
also
went
down
slightly
and
it
does
vary
year
after
year.
There
is
a
table,
I
believe,
on
page
three
of
the
staff
report
breaking
out
those
two
different
types
of
calls.
M
One
last
thing
to
note:
council
members
may
want
to
look
at
the
table
on
page
four
of
the
staff
report.
It
provides
a
breakdown
of
the
mental
health
crisis,
calls
for
service
that
were
evaluated
for
diversion
to
the
mobile
crisis,
outreach
team
at
the
university
of
utah.
The
acronym
is
mcot
and
you
can
see
there
were
516
calls
and
I
think
it
was
about.
Half
of
them
were
diverted
to
mcot
and
there
were
several
other
outcomes
as
well.
G
T
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
feel
that
officers
have
done
an
excellent
job
with
the
tools
that
they
have
at
their
disposal,
but
their
time
is
valuable
and
it's
also
valuable.
It's
also
limited
officers
being
able
to
focus
on
their
expertise,
allows
them
to
do
their
job
and
do
it
well,
while
allowing
other
professionals
to
do
what
they
are
best
educated
and
trained
to
do.
B
G
Groundbreaking
the
diversion
of
mental
health
calls
is
effective
and
it's
sustainable.
Specifically.
I
would
like
to
use
those
statistics
mentioned
in
the
pilot
partnership
program
with
the
university
of
utah
mobile
crisis,
outreach
team,
emcot
from
2021
and
other
partial
stats
in
2022,
with
mkhot's
involvement
in
2021
516
calls
total
will
divert
it
to
them
to
kind
of
break
that
down.
For
you
a
little
bit
more
234
calls
were
resolved
by
emcot
telephonically
from
that
39
required
law
enforcement
after
emcod
deemed
necessary.
G
And
11
of
those
calls
required
a
higher
level
of
care
again
determined
by
emcot
in
2022,
where
we
are
now
from
january
to
april,
46
calls
have
been
resolved,
telephonically
five
required
law
enforcement
and
40
emcot
deployed
and
responded
making
a
total
of
91
calls.
Thus
far
again,
I
would
like
to
remind
you
that
those
calls
they're
people
every
one
of
those
calls
is
a
person.
G
G
G
G
M
Sure
can
I
ask
a
quick
question
on
that
slide
before
we
move
on
when
you
say
call
diversion
to
mcot.
That
means
a
call
comes
into
slc
911,
the
dispatcher
realizes
that
this
would
be
better
served
or
adequately
served
by
mcat
and
correct
moves
on
does
emcod
have
their
own
call
service
that
they're
operating
outside
of
slc
9-1-1
right.
G
Right
so
they
have
a
training
for
our
dispatchers
and
it
is
sent
to
them
to
handle
by
phone.
We
send
it
to
them.
We
do
not
send
law
enforcement
at
all.
I
know
they
have.
For
example,
law
enforcement
has
their
own
social
workers.
This
is
separate.
This
is
us
stepping
out
of
it
letting
em
handle
that
phone
call.
They
will
contact
us
if
they
need
us.
If
they've
worked
with
them
and
they've
decided
okay,
you
know
what
there's
maybe
a
higher
threat.
We
do
need
law
enforcement.
M
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I
think
the
follow-up
question
that
is
then,
when
we
start
to
build
out
our
alternative
response
models
in
the
city.
Do
we
have
a
do?
We
need
to
have
a
separate
call
center
that
is
taking
like
the
calls
that
would
be
better
served
by
the
park
rangers
or
the
chat
team
like
how
do
or
is
that
our
department?
That's
gonna,
do
that,
and
maybe
that's
not
something
for
this
budget
discussion,
but
I'm
just
wondering
that
makes
sense
in
the
mcat
because
they're
an
outside
thing
altogether
right
and
they're.
M
M
G
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
that
will
always
go
through
9-1-1,
but
right
now
it's
it's
going
extremely
well
and
the
progress
is
is
amazing.
M
Specific
things
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
one
one
number,
I
guess
two
numbers
and
non-emergency
in
the
emergency
line
that
they
can
call
and
then
get
routed
to
the
right
place.
Thank
you
I.
I
would
just
add
that
there's
not
like
an
off-the-shelf
protocol
for
knowing
when
something
can
go
to
the
the
new
alternative
response
programs.
So
it's
definitely
a
moving
target.
G
Okay
and
getting
fully
staffed
and
fully
trained
are
different
challenges
that
serve
the
same
purpose,
which
is
to
have
a
top-notch
dispatch
center
ready
to
go
at
all
times.
At
the
end
of
2021,
we
were
down
roughly
30
positions.
We
are
now
down
less
than
half
of
that
part
of
that
is
those
positions
and
also
just
simply
the
recruitment
process.
The
recent
pay
increase
has
allowed
our
dispatchers
to
be
pay
more
appropriately
for
their
expertise,
thus
also
preventing
many
of
them
that
we're
considering
leaving
for
financial
reasons
to
actually
stay.
G
We
are
beyond
grateful,
as
this
has
also
allowed
us
to
competitively
actively
recruit
to
fill
the
empty
positions,
while
also
taking
care
of
our
current
employees
we
already
have,
and,
as
mentioned,
we
have
seen
an
influx
in
applicants
and
are
filling
the
training
classes.
As
we
speak
on
a
constant
basis,
training
is
necessary.
G
G
G
Cpr
is
also
just
another
very
common
and
great
example,
from
its
start
to
present
day
the
number
of
compressions
and
breath,
all
those
things
have
changed
due
to
research
and
results.
Again.
Can
you
imagine
if
we
never
trained
those
answering
the
phones
in
times
of
crisis,
on
these
important
updates.
G
In
light
of
recent
events
in
our
city
and
this
country,
the
active
shooter
threat
is
very
real
at
the
beginning
of
dispatching
specialized.
Active
shooter
training
didn't
really
exist,
but
we
do
have
that
now
times
change
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with
those
changes
and
some
of
those
continuing
education
trainings
that
we
are
getting
started
now
is
for
the
delicate
situations
like
active
shooter
courses,
hostage
negotiations
and
so
on.
We
understand
the
community
needs
and
deserves
the
best
service
possible.
G
G
Thank
you.
Okay.
Now
often
the
public
does
not
think
about
9-1-1,
at
least
not
until
they
must
make
the
call
which
thankfully,
isn't
often
on
the
per-person
average.
The
community
does
not
see
9-1-1,
they
see
firefighters,
they
see
police
officers,
but
they
do
not
see
the
people
that
are
responsible
for
sending
help
in
their
hour
of
need,
and
we
feel
it's
time
to
change
that.
We
are
excited
to
begin
participating
in
more
community
activities
and
events.
G
G
We
also
want
to
make
it
known
that
we
do
genuinely
care
for
the
community
and
that
we
support
diversity,
not
just
in
the
community
but
in
our
own
workplace.
For
example.
This
weekend
still
seeing
9-1-1
will
have
a
booth
up
here
for
the
pride
week
celebration
in
the
city,
and
it
is
the
first
time
we've
ever
had
a
booth
and
it's
a
wonderful
time
to
engage
with
the
community
and
just
put
a
face
to
those
voices.
G
In
summary,
we
have
a
heavy
focus
in
four
major
things:
getting
fully
staffed
and
fully
trained
making
sure
our
dispatchers
have
a
chance
to
partake
in
various
trainings
to
allow
them
to
sharpen
their
skills,
increasing
community
involvement,
to
build
awareness
and
rapport
with
the
community
and
continue
working
with
the
valuable
call
diversion
programs
such
as
emcot
dispatch.
Is
it's
not
a
job
or
career
that
just
anyone
can
do
it's
a
calling?
G
G
E
Yes,
please
hi.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
believe
that
our
first
first
and
I
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
you
that
you
guys
do
as
was
mentioned
in
the
in
the
staff
report
by
ben
last
year,
we
funded
the
32-hour
work
week.
Pilot
program.
It
sounds
like
that.
Didn't
happen,
is
it
is
it
happening?
Are
we
is
it
going
to
happen?
Can
you
give
me
an
update
on.
G
That
sure
yeah
absolutely
so
currently
it
is
not
happening
simply
because
what
we
found
was
doing
that
with
the
lack
of
staffing
just
simply
meant
they
would
have
more
mandated
overtime,
which
really
meant
they
had
the
same
amount
of
hours,
just
a
different
kind
of
structure,
and
they
didn't
get
to
go
home.
It's
something
we
could
always
look
at
later,
but
we
got
to
get
our
staffing
into
sustainable
numbers.
First,.
E
And
you
may
have
said
this
in
your
presentation
I,
for
I'm
sorry
if
I
didn't
catch
it,
but
roughly
like
what
is
the
percentage
down
staff
that
you
are
right
now.
E
G
It's
a
big
jump,
so
it's
great
it's!
We
would
get.
Maybe
what
I
understand.
One
application
in
a
couple
weeks
we're
getting
double
digits
every
week
and
we're
going
through
them,
and
it's
important
to
also
put
the
right
person
in
this
in
this
being
a
little
bit
picky
about
it,
and
it's
just
it's
been
a
wonderful
way
to
reach
out
and
keep
some
of
those
employees
too.
It's
been
a
big
help.
E
Awesome
and
two
more
questions
and
I'll
be
done.
Do
you
think
that
that
this
department
would
benefit
from
and
or
do
you
use
any
of
the
apprenticeship
program
or
positions.
G
I
think
that
is
something
that
would
be
absolutely
open
for
discussion.
We
do
have
a
policy,
we
allow
people
to
come
in
and
view
the
department.
Absolutely
I
think
again,
because
we're
not
seen
they
just
don't
know
we
exist
until
we
have
to
know
that
we
got
to
call
somebody.
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
wonderful
option
to
look
at.
E
Awesome
and
then
finally,
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
sort
of
been
trying
to
push
in
different
areas
is
the
designation
that
911
dispatch
are
first
responders.
E
I
would
love
to
sit
down
and
talk
with
you
about
what
benefits
that
brings,
because
the
first
thing,
when
I'm
talking
to
a
legislator
about
why
we
need
to
designate
911
dispatchers
as
first
responders
is
well,
why
you
know,
and
and
the
first
thing
is
retirement-
there's
a
different
right,
but
I
know
there's
probably
other
benefits
that
I'm
not
aware
of,
and
I
want
to
continue
pushing
this
dialogue
and
I
would
love
to
see
if
there's
something
within
the
city,
if
it,
even
if
it's
something
ceremonial
in
some
ways,
right
that
that.
G
E
Not
much
we
can
do
but
designate
you
as
city
first
responders,
so
that
hopefully
we
can
continue
taking
that
step
forward
and
I
know
there's
a
push
federally
to
to
designate
911
dispatch
as
first
responders,
and
so
I
you
have
all
of
my
support.
It
is
something
that
I've
talked
to
plenty
of
legislators
about
and
want
to
keep
that
discussion
going.
So
I'd
love
to
sit
down
and
have
a
small
group
talk
about.
K
N
It
feels
like
a
lifetime
ago,
but
I
I
we
did
a
tour
with
victoria
councilmember
peter
escher
a
few
months
ago
and
and
the
department
was
struggling
with
hiring
and
keeping
employees
and
it
seems
like
they're,
hiring
us
in
a
much
better
place
now.
But
what
about
keeping
them-
and
I
know
you
know-
are
we
losing
them?
The
the
the
thing
that
we
heard
this
earlier
this
year
is
that
we
were
losing
them
to
other
911
agencies,
mostly
because
of
the
pay
right,
but
there's
other
factors
to
that.
So
are
we
also
keeping
them?
N
Are
we
also
retaining
them,
because
we
won't
do,
and
I
saw
the
table
from
the
staff
report
about
you-
know
how
we
pay
them
more
over
the
years
to
sort
of
encourage
them
to
stay,
but
is
it
paying
off?
Is
it
working
out.
G
Absolutely
I
would
actually
be
extremely
excited
to
sit
here
and
again
a
year
and
show
you
the
improvements,
because
they're
just
mid-stream
pay
is:
is
a
nice
little
band-aid?
Let's
be
honest
right,
I
mean
it's
helpful.
Yes,
you
need
to
be
paid
adequately,
but
it
doesn't
fix
long-term
issues,
and
I
know
that
the
retention
has
actually
gone
up
about
four
percent
in
2021
and
I
guarantee
it's
higher
than
that.
G
Now
we
actually
had
a
few
employees
that
were
about
to
resign
right
before
that
came
through
just
because
they
couldn't
afford
to
sustain
their
own
family
life
based
on
that
income
and
they
removed
their
resignations
and
never
mind.
I'm
going
to
stay.
We've
also
not
really
had
a
strong
internal
training
program.
That's
changing
so
we're
giving
them
the
tools
they
need
to
feel
confident
in
their
job
and
also
remember,
you
know
remind
them
that
we
do
know
they're
there.
We
care
about
them
and
we're
including
them.
G
E
Sorry
one
other
question
I
think
it
may
have
been
in
a
budget
amendment
or
last
year's
budget.
Didn't
we
fund
a
social
worker,
mental
health,
professional
just
for
nine
one.
One
dispatch.
G
You
have
an
amazing
dog.
I
know
you
guys.
I
should
have
brought
pictures
of
flora.
She
has
been
also
a
part
of
that
process.
She's
there
she's
trained
to
to
recognize
anxiety
or
stress
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
comfort,
which
I
really
wish.
The
last
place
that
I
worked.
I
had
one
she's
amazing,
so
little
things
like
that.
Go
a
long
way.
E
I
did
want
to
just
keep
that
conversation
going
as
well.
I
know
I've
said
this
a
thousand
times,
but
my
first
year
on
the
council
went
to
a
conference
and
was
surprised,
but
then
suddenly
shouldn't
have
been
surprised
that
death
by
suicide
is
the
highest
among
911
dispatchers
of
all
the
first
responders.
It.
G
E
G
B
G
Yeah
just
saying
real
quick,
I
can't
agree
more
with
that
and
the
peer
support
wellness
program
here
in
the
city.
I've
worked
with
derek
piles
a
little
bit,
there's
other
things,
we're
working
on
to
include
dispatchers
and
their
own
wellness
just
to
kind
of
check
in
for
that
exact
reason.
So
I'm
thank
you
for
mentioning
that.
H
Thank
you
lisa,
and
I
I
I
appreciate
also
I
did
a
a
visit
with
the
second
shift.
I
want
to
say
family.
They
weren't
a
team.
It
was,
it
was
a
wonderful
evening
with
them
and
it
was
a
great
group
and
it
seemed
like
it
was
well
coordinated,
amazing
how
they
coordinate
all
the
different
calls
and
they
back
each
other
up
throughout.
So
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
whole
family
and
their
their
spirit
and
the
way
they
were
also
doing
their
training.
T
H
H
The
webex,
sorry,
stephen
I'll,
give
you
a
minute
here:
go
ahead.
F
F
If
anything
over
the
last
couple
years,
we've
learned
is
that
kovit
has
thrown
us
some
curveballs
and
it
threw
my
family
for
one
this
week
and
we
were
driving
back
cross
country
and
indiana
and
tested
positive
for
covet
and
now
my
whole
family
has
it
so
we're
all
locked
up
in
our
own
separate
rooms
right
now
trying
to
make
it
through
the
next
few
days.
So
lisa
did
not
know.
She
was
even
gonna.
F
Do
this
presentation
until
about
36
hours
ago,
and
then
I
kind
of
dropped
this
in
her
lap
and
said
I
don't
know
if
I
can
make
it
through
without
coughing
and
disgusting
everybody.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
her
a
round
of
applause
for
doing
such
a
great
job
on
short
notice
and
doing
all
that.
So
I
appreciate
her
she's
been
a
great
asset
to
our
team
and
just
to
reiterate
what
lisa
said,
we
appreciate
your
support.
F
I
know
I've
spoken
to
every
one
of
you
individually
and
you've
been
very
supportive
of
our
department,
some
of
my
goals,
and
you
know
trying
to
make
us
a
part
of
the
community
and
make
us
a
part
of
the
solution.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
thank
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
our
budget
request.
H
H
And
we'll
continue
on
with
our
work
session
meeting
on
item
number
six
fiscal
year,
2022-23
budget
department
of
economic
development
at
the
table.
I
have
allison
ben
and
lorena
welcome
oh
and
sylvia.
B
L
Was
intended
so.
B
This
is
the
department
of
economic
development
and
sylvia,
and
I
are
both
up
here
because
she
works
on
the
arts
council
side
of
the
budget,
and
I
work
on
the
economic
side
of
the
budget.
The
business
support
division.
You
can
see
the
key
changes
for
this
department
on
page
38
of
the
budget
book.
The
department
overview
is
on
page
159-163,
and
the
staffing
document
is
on
page
262..
B
B
I
Two
six
or
sixty
three
point:
two
percent
as
compared
to
last
year,
primarily
attributed
to
the
cost
of
funding
the
annual
salary
and
benefits
for
three
ftes,
which
were
approved
during
budget
amendment
number
six
in
the
amount
of
309
824.
That's
one
program
manager.
F
Thank
you,
sylvia
and
allison.
I
appreciate
that
introduction,
it's
great
to
be
here
with
you,
council,
members
and
council
council,
chair
dugan.
I
just
want
to
start
by
expressing
my
appreciation
to
lorena.
I
have
her
here
with
me.
I
I
was
out
for
six
weeks
of
this
process,
welcoming
our
fourth
child
eva
to
the
world.
So,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thanks
for
lorena,
leading
this
process,
and
thank
you
to
the
council
and
to
the
city
for
this
really
generous
policy.
F
F
I'm
often
asked
why
economic
development
we
get
this
question
from
time
to
time,
and
we
thought
we'd
start
with
the
metaphor
and
and
just
something
that
we
can
use
throughout
this
presentation
to
speak
to
some
of
our
efforts
and
why
we
do
what
we
do
and
a
lot
of
the
ways
that
we
think
about
economic
development
is
a
vehicle
to
facilitate
a
journey,
and
this
quote
is
is
expresses
that
pretty
well.
The
purpose
of
our
economy
isn't
just
to
go.
F
Places
fast,
is
to
take
people
with
their
with
with
us,
and
so
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
thread
through
a
little
bit
as
we're
discussing
some
of
our
budget.
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
is.
This
sentiment
is
expressed
in
our
guiding
principles
in
the
2015
master
plan,
so
a
balanced
economy
and
a
strong,
creative
culture.
F
When
we
talk
about
the
car,
there's
also
the
infrastructure,
the
road
to
get
there,
and
this
is
how
we're
structured
in
economic
development
we,
as
described
by
sylvia
and
allison.
We
have
both
the
arts,
council
and
the
business
development
division,
guiding
a
lot
of
our
efforts
and
what
we're
doing,
and
essentially
what
we're.
What
we're
working
on
is
spending
the
momentum
and
a
lot
of
our
work
is
embedding
that
momentum
to
our
local
businesses
and
bending
it
to
our
local
artists
as
well.
F
We
do
this
through
partnerships
collaborations.
We
also
have
programs
that
we
run,
that
you
heard
earlier,
like
the
edlf
and
facilitating
those
loans
and
bringing
them
before
the
council
as
well,
and
if
we
can
move
to
the
next
slide,
what
we're
really
looking
at
is
a
destination
and
not
a
destination,
isn't
an
endpoint
of
we
can
raise
a
flag
and
say
we're
finished,
it's
an
ongoing
effort,
but
really
what
we're
working
on
in
economic
development
is
looking
through
a
lens
of,
obviously,
as
the
profession
of
economic
development.
F
So
when
we
say
this,
this
is
a
lot
of
what
the
themes
are
going
to
come
up
that
we're
going
to
go
through
in
terms
of
our
ask,
but
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
lorena
to
just
cover
some
of
the
specific
items.
Actually,
one
more
slide.
Sorry
I
jumped
ahead
there,
my
apologies
one
more
so
when
we
think
about
our
budget
and
when
we
think
about
the
actions
that
we
take
it
in
economic
development,
we
have
work
that
comes
with
challenges.
Obviously
some
we
call
them
potholes
along
the
way.
F
You
know
we
had
coven
19
and,
as
this
council
will
remember,
you
know
we
were
one
of
the
first
cities
in
the
country
to
respond
with
pandemic
programs.
We
had
the
emergency
loan
program
and
we
had
other
programs
that
we
were
not
only
doing
on
our
own,
but
facilitating
and
reaching
out
to
our
local
businesses
to
ensure
that
they
were
aware
of
what
existed
and
what
they
had
the
opportunity
to
go
after
to
help
their
business
stay
alive.
We
have
you
know
some
headwinds
coming
up
in
the
next
years.
F
F
While
growth
is
great,
it
comes
with
our
own,
its
own
challenges,
whether
that's
preserving
the
character
of
some
of
our
local
businesses
that
may
be
displaced
by
that
growth
or
just
generally
other
constraints
that
face
our
our
businesses,
our
artists,
as
as
we
grow
as
a
city
and
and
then
you
know,
there's
always
a
potential
for
a
recession
and
we're
hearing
more
and
more
of
that,
as
inflation
is
more
in
our
economy
and
more
economists
are
talking
about
it
being
here
to
stay.
F
What
I
do
want
to
say,
though
it
sounds
like
some
of
this,
is
really
negative.
Is
we've
got
such
a
talented
team
in
our
department
and
in
the
wider
city
to
address
some
of
these?
These
situations
and
our
budget
reflects
our
hope
and
our
desire
to
face
off
some
of
these
tough
issues
ahead.
So
with
that,
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
lorena
to
cover
some
of
the
specifics
in
our
budget
this
year,.
D
Good
afternoon,
I
think
is,
is
critical
and
I
love
the
fact
that
ben
has
recognized
our
team
members
and
the
incredible
work
that
they
do.
They
are
passionate,
whether
it's
business
development,
whether
it's
the
arts.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
have
found
that
with
our
also
other
departments
and
our
peers,
so
we
really
have
an
incredible
city
employees,
public
servants,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
you
because
this
process
is
really
difficult
and
I
don't
think
I
could
do
what
you're
doing
right
now.
D
Having
said
that,
some
of
the
key
budget
changes
that
were
requested
in
our
budget-
and
this
is
outside
the
non-departmental
that
were
discussed
two
weeks
ago-
include
construction
mitigation
grant
for
200
000.
You
had
the
vision
last
year,
and
we
thank
you
for
that,
because
this
has
been
an
incredible
tool
that
a
small
business
community
has
been
using
to
ensure
that
they
stay
afloat.
Even
though
you
know
the
grants
are
small,
we
provided
grants
to
them
and
the
house
that
has
helped
them
immensely.
D
The
arts
council
operating
budget
we're
asking
for
funding
for
the
public
art
collection
for
cell
phones
and
staff
development.
We
haven't
asked
for
anything
when
it
comes
to
those
three
areas
and
then
I'll
just
discuss
in
the
next
in
the
next
slide.
If
we
could
go
to
the
nlc
hispanic
initiative
and
the
healthcare
innovation,
marketing
and
placemaking.
D
D
Having
said
that,
we
want
to
create
and
highlight,
what's
here
in
salt
lake
city,
to
ensure
that
our
diverse
communities,
our
schools,
including
our
students,
they
can
see
themselves
as
part
of
this
industry.
That
would
definitely
provide
great
jobs
in
our
community.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
want
to
create
this
healthcare
innovation
placemaking.
D
In
addition
to
that,
the
nlc
has
created
a
hispanic
initiative
for
business
owners.
Now,
the
funding
that
we're
requesting
is
not
going
to
go
to
the
nlc,
but
rather
it
would
be
a
partner
like
the
swazil
business
center.
We
would
partner
with
them
to
ensure
that
research
is
done
to
identify
what
the
pain
points
are
within
the
city.
Can
we
remove
those
as
we
learn
from
this
research,
we
would
love
to
have
an
opportunity
to
also
do
similar
research
for
other
ethnic,
diverse
communities.
D
Business
development
and
roberta
regal
is
here,
and
I
have
to
give
her
kudos
for
the
incredible
work
that
she
does
in
our
community.
We
talked
about
earlier
with
your
vision
and
your
support
of
the
construction
mitigation
round
one.
Basically,
we
provided
43
grants
to
43
businesses
that
was
about
86
000,
we're
now
on
ground
on
round
two
and
we
will
be
providing,
I
would
say,
all
the
funding
that's
available
right
now
to
businesses
economic
development,
loan
fund.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
what
the
loan
fund
is
doing
during
the
pandemic.
D
I
have
to
say
that
the
loan
fund
was
not
used
as
much
as
we
would
like
it
to
and
and
the
reason
why
is
because
businesses
did
have
other
options.
There
were
other
either
grants
or
the
interest
rate
with
other
loans
through
either
federal
government
or
other
entities
were
much
lower
and
that's
what
we
want
entities
to
do.
Small
businesses
within
our
city
is
to
take
advantage
of
those.
However,
in
the
last
three
four
months
we
have
seen
actually
more
applicants.
D
You
saw
one
today,
I
think
you
approved
two
or
three
last
month
and
I
think
there's
about
20
of
them
in
the
pipe
in
the
pipeline.
It
does
take
a
few
months
to
get
them
through
because
it
all
depends
how
fast
they
move,
and
yet
I
think
that
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
loans.
So
we
appreciate
your
support
and
your
review,
because
this
is
a
great
tool
in
our
community
open
streets.
We
have
seen
that
is
an
incredible
activation
that
has
brought
vibrancy
and
has
also
brought
opportunities
for
our
small
business
community.
Restaurants.
D
We
have
actually
facilitated
and
we
have
worked
with
other
departments
within
the
city,
so
we
we
actually
thank
them
for
their
help
and
support,
but
facilitation
has
included.
You
know,
working
with
fire
department
permits
building
services,
and
that
list
goes
on
and
on
to
providing
providing
letters
to
the
dabc,
so
patios
could
be
extended
into
the
street.
D
So,
basically
our
work
right.
There
has
been
one
of
facilitating
and
supporting
and
creating
a
place
where
our
communities,
our
families,
can
come
and
enjoy
and
take
advantage
districts
special
assessment
areas.
This
is
an
incredible
tool.
We
were
here
in
front
of
you.
You
supported
another
approval
of
the
special
assessment,
downtown
area
right
now
we're
in
the
middle,
and
we
will
be
coming
to
you
shortly
for
the
special
assessment
area,
insurer
house
and
the
this
is
actually
a
study
that
the
information
is
going
to
be
brought
to
you.
D
These
are
just
a
few
examples.
I
also
want
to
highlight
the
arts
council
work
when
it
comes
to
open
streets,
felicia
vaca,
who
is
here
and
I'll,
be
talking
shortly
about
the
arts
council
as
well.
They
supported
open
street
by
providing
performers
through
the
cultural
core
contract
that
the
arts
council
in
salt
lake
county
actually
administers.
D
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
that
would
be
great,
and
here
is
a
quote
from
a
small
business
owner,
blue
copper,
coffee,
expressing
his
appreciation
for
the
construction
mitigation
grant
that
he
received
in
terms
of
support
he's
the
support
that
we
were
able
to
provide
because
of
your
your
funding
of
this
program
and
also
recognizing
that
other
businesses,
also
small
businesses
who
may
be
located
in
construction
areas,
will
benefit
from
from
this
type
of
grant.
So
thank
you.
So
much
because
it
is
making
a
difference.
F
The
case
that
we
wanted
to
pull
out
was
quarters,
so
quarters
is,
if
you
haven't
been
there,
it's
a
wonderful
establishment
on
fourth
south,
just
right
off
of
main
street,
not
too
far
away
from
from
this
building.
They
opened
up
business
in
2019
as
as
a
as
an
arcade,
slash
bar,
so
you
can
go
there,
get
a
beer
go
play
arcade,
but
to
start
this
off
they
didn't
have
a
good
source
of
financing
and
it
was
a
high
risk
proposition
for
some
of
the
banks.
F
So
they
came
to
the
city
asked
about
the
edlf
and
we
helped
to
facilitate
that
process
for
150
000
loans
to
get
them
started
shortly
after
they
opened
their
doors
the
pandemic
hit.
So
luckily
they
were
able
to
get
in
their
application,
for
the
emergency
loan
program
received
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
that
bridge
loan
to
the
sba
programs
that
were
later
put
in
place
by
the
federal
government.
F
In
addition,
they,
when,
when
the
city
worked
with
the
downtown
alliance
on
facilitating
the
open
streets
program,
that
traffic
that
was
driven
to
that
downtown
core
didn't
just
help
out
the
businesses
along
main
street,
but
some
of
the
ones
that
are
either
slightly
off
or
even
a
little
more
off
of
main
street
and
quarters
was
one
of
those
who
experienced
roughly
30
revenue
increases.
F
Other
businesses
reported
as
well
and
and
finally
one
of
the
the
challenges
as
a
local
business
and
getting
started
up
is
knowing
exactly
what
points
in
the
city
to
to
go.
If
you're
experiencing
a
challenge
and
our
team
and
business
development
actually
help
to
facilitate
through
the
the
economic
development
liaison
in
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department,
helped
to
put
them
in
touch
with
with
that
department
to
say:
hey,
let's
work
you
through
the
process
and
let's
make
this
as
easy
as
possible,
so
they
had
a
bit
of
a
challenging
time.
F
Open
that
was
made
a
lot
easier
once
that
connection
was
made,
so
it's
our
constant
engagement
in
the
community
and
re
reaching
out
to
these
businesses
that
that
helps
to
make
this
happen
and
helps
to
get
them
in
the
right
place
in
the
process,
so
that
the
business
won't
hit
the
snag
that
sets
them
further
back
in
openings.
So
so,
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
not
just
the
only
case,
but
one
of
several
that
our
team
works
on.
So
these
are
some
of
our
wins.
These
are.
F
These
are
some
openings
or
investments
that
our
team
has
been
quite
involved
in
along
the
way,
whether
it's
helping
to
you
know
with
a
groundbreaking
ceremony
and
coordination
with
that
or
whether
it's
helping
the
the
business
through
a
process
or
putting
them
in
touch
with
some
of
the
tools
that
exist
not
just
in
the
city
but
outside
of
the
city,
whether
it's
ed
tiff
at
the
state
or
another
program.
F
You
know
it's
our
team,
our
team's
responsibility,
to
look
at
a
holistic
approach
and
take
that
to
the
business,
not
just
look
at
it
and
here's
one
thing
that
could
work
for
you,
but
rather
here
learn
more
about
their
business
on
the
site
of
their
business
and
then
understand
what
tools
might
be
best
used
for
them,
and
one
other
thing
to
highlight
with
this
as
well
is
that
our
team
oftentimes
the
way
many
of
us
experience
the
work
that's
done
by
our
team
is
a
business
opens
or
a
piece
of
public
art
is
in
place.
F
But,
as
a
council
is
aware,
in
others,
this
is
sometimes
a
multi-year
process
that
leads
to
that,
whether
it's
a
process
through
a
public
art
process
through
the
design
board
in
receiving
rfps
from
artists
and
considering
those
and
getting
through
the
recommendation
process,
or
whether
it's
the
permitting
process
and
how
that
business
works
with
other
parts
of
the
city
on
ultimately
having
that
investment
made
is
quite
a
long
process
that
there
are
several
touch
points
along
the
way
that
lead
to
these
wins
next
slide.
Please.
D
I
also
want
to
say
that
what
ben
described
is
very
extensive
almost
when
we
work
with
businesses
or
when
the
arts
council
that
work
is
extensive.
You
know
like
he
expressed
quarters,
it
wasn't
just
the
economic
development
loan
fund.
It
was
an
emergency
loan
fund.
It
was
how
do
we
get
them
to
become
part
of
open
streets,
so
they
can
reap
the
benefits
of
those
activations
taking
place.
D
Similarly,
our
arts
council
is
so
heavily
involved
with
our
communities,
the
communities
that
they
serve.
Why
do
we
know
what
these
communities
these
artists,
these
businesses
need,
because
we're
constantly
talking
to
them
and
as
ben
described,
our
visits
with
them
are
not
just
a
visit.
That
is
like
hello.
How
are
you,
but
rather
you
know,
let
me
tell
you
what
the
resources
are.
Let
me
tell
you
what
we
can
do
what's
available
at
state
level
what's
available
at
the
county
level,
so
those
visits
are
extensive.
Some
of
the
major
accomplishments
of
the
arts
council.
D
Many
of
you
were
part
of
the
2022
living
traditions
that
just
took
place
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
That's
an
incredible
celebration:
it's
one
of
the
longest
standing
arts
festivals
in
our
community
that
provides
opportunities
for
underserved
minority
communities
to
showcase
basically
their
products,
but
also
to
showcase
their
arts
and
their
culture.
D
D
I
also
want
to
recognize
councilwoman
baltimores
for
your
luncheon
that
you
had
welcoming
and
opening
this
incredible
celebration
and,
of
course,
this
week
we
have
pride
and
that's
going
to
be
another
celebration
honoring
and
respecting
our
communities
in
many
of
these
forums,
public
art
1.1.5
for
cip
to
ensure
that
our
public
art
is
well
maintained,
and
this
also
honors
and
brings
vibrancy
into
our
community,
but
it
also
honors
those
artists-
and
you
have
been
part
of
that.
So
we
appreciate
your
support.
D
D
Nea
grant
and
those
grants
actually
have
provided
151
grants
to
artists
and
grant
organizations
our
community
making
a
huge
difference,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
you
know
their
board
is
very
diverse
and
they've
worked
very
hard
to
do
that
and
that's
something
that
we're
very
proud.
As
a
department.
D
I
drive
by
this
every
day
on
my
way
to
work
and
when
I
go
home-
and
you
know
this
basically
represents
that
connection-
that
creates
quality
of
life
but
also
brings
families
together.
It
brings
people
coming
and
experiencing
not
just
the
art,
but
actually
going
out
to
dinner
in
the
ninth
and
ninth
neighborhood
and
probably
going
out
to
dinner
and
buying
some
ice
cream
and
then
providing
opportunities
for
the
business
community
and
again
as
ben
as
ben
mentioned.
This
is
full
circle.
D
F
You
know
the
city's
support
for
what
they
do.
We're
going
to
take
the
case
of
an
artist.
So
you
see
here,
jorge
rojas,
jorge,
is
a
2021
artist,
career
empowerment,
grant
recipient.
That
is
a
grant
that
is
administered
by
the
salt
lake
city,
arts,
council,
he's
a
recipient
of
mayor's
artist
award,
he's
done,
finch
lane
flash
projects
and
and
also
served
on
the
city's
flag
committee.
He's
a
small
business
owner
on
the
west
side
as
well,
and
so
jorge
is
a
great
case
to
describe
what
we
do
and
why
it's
important.
F
It's
not
just
one
touch
point,
but
several
in
terms
of
looking
at
how
to
how
to
empower
and
grow
our
entrepreneurs,
including
our
artists
in
our
community,
next
slide,
please
so
essentially.
This
is
why
we
exist
and
why
we
have
this
dedicated
team.
Here.
It's
not
just
situational
support,
but
really
a
suite
of
services
that
the
council
provides
resources
on
in
terms
of
either
staff
time
or
or
programs
or
initiatives
that
come
through
our
department.
F
And
so
you
know
if,
if
you're
a
local
business
and
your
roads
getting
torn
up,
we're
not
just
coming
to
you
and
saying:
hey
your
road's
getting
torn
up
here,
you
should
be
aware
of
the
construction
mitigation
loan
program
or
grant
program,
but
rather
you
know,
there's
an
economic
development
loan
fund.
Have
you
heard
of
that?
What
are
you
thinking
about
doing
with
your
business?
Did
you
know
these?
Other
resources
are
available
at
the
state
or
county
level
as
well.
F
So
we
take
on
that
holistic
approach
and
and
and
really
take
that
into
our
mindful
efforts
as
a
department,
and
so
with
that
that
that
that
concludes
our
presentation
and
we
appreciate
the
council's
support
and
would
be,
would
welcome
any
questions.
E
Yes,
I
have
a
quick
question
as
soon
as
I
find
where
it
was
the
blocks
program.
E
I
noticed
that
the
rfp-
and
this
was
in
our
staff
report,
I'm
sort
of
looking
over
at
you
felicia,
because
you
might
have
more
answers.
I
don't
know,
but
that
it
is
expiring
in
july
of
2022
and
that
another
rfp
is
going
out,
and
I
noticed
from
the
staff
report
that
it
was
a
kind
of
a
joint
venture
between
us
and
the
county.
Is
that
the
intention
for
the
next
round
of
rfp
as
well
is
that
it
will
be
a
partnership
with
the
county.
F
So
the
the
funding
comes
from
the
city
and
the
county,
and
it
goes
out
to
rfp
to
identify
a
partner
that
process
is
underway
now
and
hopefully
we'll
have
that
that
will
become
public
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
on
who
the
recipient
is.
E
Okay,
so
does
this
budget
include
that
250
000
that
we
have
been,
including
with
the
blocks
project
for
next
year,
even
though
the
rfp
expires
july
of
2022.
P
I
don't
really
so
much
have
a
question
as
we
all
have
our
things.
This
department
is
what
energizes
me
in
this
city.
We
can
do
as
many
affordable
housing
initiatives
as
we
want.
We
can
do
as
many
community
support
initiatives
as
we
want
if
we
do
not
create
a
climate
that
is
hospitable
to
the
economic
mobility
and
independence
of
our
residents,
that
gives
them
the
freedom
to
experience
self-determination
through
economic
self-determination.
P
P
It's
not
instinctive
to
our
traditional
paradigms
and
for
you
all
to
knit
these
things
together
to
create
case
statements
together
to
make
the
case
together
for
the
mutual
sustainability
of
these
ideas.
I
love
the
creativity
that
the
arts
council
brings
to
economic
development
and
the
gravitas
that
economic
brings
to
the
arts,
and
I
am
incredibly
enthusiastic
about
this
work
and
about
the
subject
matter.
Experts
we
have
going
deep
on
this
on
behalf
of
our
citizens,
so
thank
you.
E
Can
I
make
a
request?
Can
we
please
change
the
name
of
the
salt
lake
city
arts,
council
foundation
so
that
I
don't
get
confused
every
time
it
comes
up
in
the
budget?
There
has
to
be
a
way
to
make
a
distinction
between
these
two.
I
still
don't
understand
the
whole
relationship.
Exactly
but
at
least
we
could
change
somebody's
name
here.
Q
Mr
chair,
I
have
a
question:
yep:
okay,
hi.
Thank
you
great.
F
Q
Everything
change
names,
yeah,
artists,
all
the
tools
and
other
entrepreneurs.
No.
The
question
I
have
is
in
the
open
street.
I
know
we
had
a
request.
It's
still
like
to
me
in
my
head.
Maybe
it's
just
me
it's
in
limbo,
in
the
sense
of
who
pays
for
what
who's
in
charge
of
what
are
we
really
looking
into
closing
main
street
permanently
and
then
doing
those
improvements
on
the
sidewalks
for
for
ada
compliance
and
stuff
like
that?
So
are
you
was
it
you
that
sent
us
a
re?
No,
it
was
a
downtown
alliance.
Q
F
F
It's
a
little
bit
of
an
it
touches
multiple
areas
of
the
city,
so
the
department
of
economic
development
oversees
a
contract
for
the
downtown
alliance,
who
initially
engaged
the
city
on
the
concept
of
open
streets,
as
we
saw
other
cities
doing
this
in
the
pandemic,
so
oftentimes,
where
we
serve
in
this
role,
is
as
a
facilitator.
F
The
budget
request
before
the
council
from
the
rda,
for
example,
is
really
looking
at
some
long-term
planning
and
considerations
for
open
streets
and
what
that
could
look
like
in
terms
of
visioning.
So
there
are
some
modifications
that
could
be
made,
but
there
are
several
options
that
could
be
brought
to
the
council
and
rda
is
proposing
to
study
that
as
an
example
and
then
the
the
the
process
to
set
up
the
the
infrastructure,
the
barricades
making
sure
there's
fire
access,
goes
through
the
special
events
process.
F
H
S
The
the
money
for
planning
for
the
future
is
in
the
rda
budget.
The
money
for
this
year's
special
event
is
not
right
now
anywhere
it
every.
You
know,
there's
always
in
a
budget.
This
big
there
will
be
things
that
are
overlooked.
That
was
one
that
was
overlooked,
so
the
council
can
add
that
in
one
of
the
things
that
we
have,
this
is
second
hand,
but
we
understand
that
it's
probably
okay
for
to
move
150
000
to
from
rda
to
I
guess,
non-departmental
and
then
it's
up
to
the
council.
S
H
And
so
I'm
kind
of
asking
you
and
and
cindy
at
the
same
time
here-
and
we
had
this
discussion
in
the
chair
vice
chair,
just
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
make
it
on
the
public
side
of
the
house.
This
is
more
on
the
unresolved
issue,
side
of
the
house
at
this
time,
the
funding
for
this
summer's
street
closures
and
then
just
for
everybody.
H
We
need
to
kind
of
clarify
what
we
talk
about
when
we
talk
street
closures,
weekends
weekdays
nights
days,
all
that
stuff
needs
to
be
so
we're
talking
the
same
terms
across
the
plate,
but
that's
in
the
end,
that's
in
the
unresolved
issues
at
this
time.
Next
question
is
about
the
construction
mitigation
grants
that
last
year
was
up
to
two
thousand
dollars.
We're
now
proposing
to
three
thousand
dollars
per
grant.
D
D
We
will,
by
our
goal,
is
to
and
to
basically
provide
those
fundings
to
the
community
before
the
end
of
the
year.
That's
we're
working
very
hard
to
do
that.
H
H
Council
we're
moving
on
to
the
budget
22-23
metropolitan
water
district,
sam.
H
B
B
So
that's
it
for
the
history,
unless
there
are
other
questions
from
the
council
members,
the
budget
for
this
year
fiscal
year,
23
is
49
million.
463
484
dollar
request
that's
up
about
1
from
last
year
a
rate
increase
of
three
percent
for
all
water
sales
to
member
cities
so
to
salt
lake
and
sandy
is
included
as
part
of
this
year's
budget
proposal.
The
three
percent
rate
increase
is
static
over
the
next
four
to
five
fiscal
years,
so
until
calendar
2027,
the
three
percent
rate
increase
is
anticipated.
B
B
Some
factors
going
into
cost
increases
for
the
district
include
capital
costs
for
regional
water
distribution
through
the
central
utah
project,
as
well
as
costs
for
obtaining
water
through
the
central
utah
project.
So
some
water
supplies
that
salt
lake
city
uses
are
obtained
through
the
wasatch
canyons,
and
some
of
them
are
obtained
further
away.
B
B
C
Thank
you
sam
and
appreciate
all
that
sam
does
and
the
council
staff
so
as
stem
sam
did
a
great
introduction
of
of
metropolitan
water
district.
C
C
C
Q
B
Thanks
mike,
I
just
needed
to
explain
to
the
council
that,
while
we're
meeting
virtually,
we
were
planning
to
be
with
you
in
person.
B
However,
I
went
to
the
doctor
yesterday
and
I
got
a
phone
call
from
the
doctor's
office
this
morning
indicating
that
she
tested
positive
last
night,
so
that
put
me
out
of
the
picture
and
mike-
and
I
were
discussing
it
today
as
to
maybe
he
could
be
in
person.
I
could
be
virtual
and
we
thought
most
of
you,
five
of
you
at
least,
are
used
to
seeing
us
as
a
package.
J
So
we
thought
we'd
both
be
virtual
today
for
the
two
new
council.
B
Meetup
members-
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
will
be
extending
an
invitation
and
arranging
with
the
council
staff,
to
take
you
on
a
tour
of
the
metro
facilities
sometime
in
the
near
future,
and
but
I
promise
it
will
be
after
you
have
finalized
your
budget.
We'll
give.
J
You
a
little
breather
there.
Thank
you
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mike.
C
Thanks
tom
sam,
are
you
controlling
the
presentation
or
how
are
we
handling
this.
B
C
Sounds
good
thanks,
sam
all,
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide
as
we
get
into
this
council
members
feel
free
to
interject.
At
any
point,
I
don't
want.
I
don't
want
you
to
feel
like
you
can't
ask
questions
or
dive
into
any
of
the
details.
If
you
have
any
topics
you
want
to
further
discuss,
maybe
one
other
thought
as
well.
C
C
Okay,
if,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
carrying
a
little
bit
too
long,
feel
free
to
cut
me
off
all
right
so
jumping
right
into
it
so
as
outlined
here,
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
of
a
metro
overview
and
also
discuss
the
budget
debt
service
and
the
schedule
for
the
budget
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
all
right,
so
the
metropolitan
water
district
of
sullivan
sandy
was
established
in
1935,
primarily
in
the
midst
of
a
severe
drought.
C
Metro
was
the
local
sponsor
of
that
project
for
the
salt
lake
aqueduct
and
then
the
provo
river
water
users
association
was
the
the
deer
creek
sponsor
for
that
project.
The
deer
creek
division,
so
sandy
city,
as
noted
here,
joined
in
1990
and
and
that
that
was
an
important
step
in
providing
additional
resource
and
resiliency
for
the
metro
family
as
well.
A
good
helpful
move
and
a
good
step
board.
Members
are
appointed
by
both
city
councils,
so
salt
lake
city
council
appoints
five
as
noted
here,
sandy
city
two,
and
they
serve
four-year
terms
next
slide.
C
Please-
and
actually
I
guess
I
missed
that
article
in
the
on
the
previous
page.
There's
one
note
that
I
wanted
to
share
on
that,
and
I
I
just
realized
that
I
missed
that
when,
when
the
metropolitan
water
district,
the
concept
of
the
metro,
metropolitan
water
district
being
formed
was
advertised,
it
talks
about
this
being
an
opportunity
that
may
not
be
available
again
in
the
future,
and
that
is
very
much
true.
The
solid
aqueduct
was
constructed
back
in
that
time.
C
As
far
as
and
again
it
was
a
united
states
bureau
of
reclamation
project,
it
was
constructed
for
eight
million
dollars
and
we
repaid
the
construction
of
that
metro,
repaid
the
construction
of
that
over
40
years
with
no
interest.
So
it
was
a
huge
benefit
to
to
the
member
cities,
in
particular
early
on
salt
lake
city.
So
next
slide
please.
C
So
this
this
map
shows
the
service
area
of
the
metropolitan
water
district.
So
the
tan
area
reflects
or
represents
the
service
area
of
our
district
and
again
we
serve
two
member
cities,
salt
lake
city
and
sandy
city,
so
two
incorporated
cities,
and
then
there
are
other
cities
that
are
served
by
salt
lake
city
and
sandy
city
as
well.
C
Salt
lake
city
serves,
as
you
all
know,
holiday
mill,
creek
cottonwood
heights,
some
unincorporated
parts
of
salt
lake
county
as
well.
We
also
have
surplus
customers
that
we
provide
water
to
on
a
on
a
surplus
basis,
as
water
is
available.
C
We
we
do
we're
very
careful
about
that,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
take
away
from
the
critical
resource
and
reliable
resource
that
we
are
focused
to
provide
to
our
member
cities,
but
when
we
do
have
it
available,
we
do
sell
to
jordan
valley,
water,
conservancy
district
to
other
irrigator
or
to
irrigators
and
to
other
entities
as
well
and-
and
we
can
use
that
water
to
offset
costs
for
our
member
cities
next
slide.
Please.
C
This
is
a
good
summary
of
the
water
supply
for
for
metro.
The
provo
river
project
is
the
key
component
of
our
water
supply.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
61
900
acre
feet,
the
largest
component
and
again
this
relates
to
deer,
creek
reservoir
and
the
salt
lake
aqueduct
and
those
were
the
original
components
of
the
provo
river
project,
along
with
some
other
conveyance
facilities
that
provide
water
to
the
provo
river
system.
C
Central
utah
project,
the
municipal
and
industrial
portion
of
that
which
is
related
to
jordanelle
reservoir
20
000
acre
feet
is
what
was
allocated
for
that
and
is
associated
with
that.
So
that
is
a
benefit
that
provides
some
additional
flexibility
as
far
as
water
supply
to
our
member
studies
as
well.
My
apologies
got
reminders
going
here
and
then
the
central
utah
project,
utah
lake
system,
3
100,
acre
feet.
C
This
year
is,
is
not
quite
as
significant
we're
looking
at
something
quite
a
bit
less
than
20
000
acre
feet
as
far
as
yield,
probably
more
like
12
to
15
000
this
year,
ontario
drain
tunnel.
This
particular
right
is
a
preferential
right
for
sandy
city
on
an
average
of
2800
acre
feet
per
year
and
then
bell
canyon
is
a
water
right
for
sandy
city
as
well.
You'll
note
at
the
bottom
that
there's
this
reference
to
additional
utah
lake
system
or
strawberry
water
supply,
and
that
is
a
future
supply
that
currently
has
been
deferred.
C
So
agency
relationships,
so
we
already
chatted
a
little
bit
about
the
provo
river
project
and
again
the
the
key
sponsors,
our
metropolitan
water
district,
as
well
as
the
provo
river
water
users
association
as
the
local
sponsor
for
the
dairy
creek
division.
The
provo
association
is
also
the
operations
and
maintenance
entity
for
the
provo
river
project,
dirt
creek
division,
some
of
the
shareholder
information
related
to
the
provo
association
metro
is
the
majority
shareholder
of
61.9
percent
of
stock
and
the
provo
reservoir
water
uses.
C
Users
company
is
the
second
largest
shareholder
of
stock
and
jordan
valley.
Water
conservancy
district
has
a
primary
shareholdership
in
that
entity.
So
there's
it
gets
a
little
bit
complicated
as
you
get
into
some
of
these
relationships,
but
and
then
central
utah
project
or
that
particular
supply.
The
central
utah
water
conservancy
district
is
the
operations
and
maintenance
entity
for
that
supply
of
water.
C
So
after
1960
with
this
plant
in
place,
the
water
from
deer
creek
was
being
treated,
so
that
was
an
important
step
in
1960.
Original
capacity
was
113
mgd
per
million
gallons
per
day
that
was
expanded
to
about
150
million
gallons
per
day
back
in
in
2007
as
part
of
what
we
refer
to
as
a
natural
water
project,
which
was
a
capacity
improvement
project
tied
to
various
facilities
to
help
our
member
cities
with
their
capacity
needs
into
the
future.
C
C
C
An
important
note
on
this
metropolitan
water
district
is
a
local
sponsor
of
this
portion
of
the
provo
river
project
has
since
paid
this
this,
its
its
obligation
off
to
reclamation
and
the
title
has
been
transferred
to
the
metropolitan
water
district
and
and
the
benefit
for
us
is.
We
now
have
the
flexibility
to
operate,
maintain
and
replace
this
aqueduct
as
we
need
to,
without
the
sometimes
the
extra
steps
that
need
to
be
taken
if
it's
a
federal
project,
so
it
provides
a
lot
of
extra
flexibility
and
latitude,
including
financing
opportunities.
C
C
That
is
connecting
the
two
water
treatment
plants
that
I've
previously
described.
The
point
of
mountain
water
treatment
plant
and
the
little
cottonwood
plant,
and
it
is
it,
provides
flexibility
of
of
moving
water
from
north
to
south
or
south
to
north.
So
that
is
a
very
important
element
because
it
provides
redundancy
and-
and
also,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
kind
of
the
peaking
supply
component
that
helps
meet
needs
that
we
have
during
high
flow
season.
C
The
two
and
a
half
miles
that
I
have
noted
there,
the
four
inch
diameter.
That's
the
raw
section
of
the
point
of
mountain
aqueduct
that
supplies
water
to
the
point
of
the
mountain
water
treatment
plant
for
treatment
next
slide.
C
The
terminal
reservoir
and
many
of
you
probably
have
seen
the
construction
that
took
place
back
in
in
2016
2017
and
completed
in
2018,
actually
went
back
before
that.
Even
there's
a
is
a
seven
year
project,
but
we
recently
replaced
those
those
reservoir
cells
because
of
concerns
about
seismic
risk,
as
well
as
as
flooding
liabilities
in
the
event
that
there
is
a
serious
seismic
event,
the
replaced
reservoir,
the
updated
terminal
reservoir
is
seismically
to
required
standards
and
is
is
capable
of
storing
48
million
gallons.
C
At
this
point
so
again,
this
is
I-215
and
3300
south
roughly
in
that
area,
so
mill
creek
jordan
aquatic
system.
So
this
is
an
important
system
of
which
metric
owns
two
sevens
of
the
capacity
and
and
has
two
sevenths
rights
so
for
the
jordan
aqueduct
related
facilities
when
I
say
related
facilities,
that
includes
also
a
terminal
reservoir
on
the
jordan
aqueduct
and
then
the
jordan
valley
water
treatment
plant.
We
also
have
27
capacity
in
that
plant
as
well.
C
So,
just
into
the
budget.
Now,
on
the
revenue
side,
you
can
see
here
that
there
are
really
three
key
components
of
revenue:
kind
of
a
three-legged
stool,
if
you
will,
for
the
metropolitan
water
district
water
sales
being
the
largest
component
at
50
capital
assessments
at
26
percent
and
property
taxes
at
23,
there's
also
a
very
small
element
of
miscellaneous
revenue,
which
includes
interest
and
other
other
types
of
similar
types
of
revenues.
C
C
So
just
really
quickly
rate
history
for
the
members
of
these.
C
At
one
point-
and
this
was
before
2010
fiscal
year
2010,
the
district
was
charging
on
a
per
acre
foot
basis
for
water,
and
then
we
attempted
a
seasonal
per
acre
foot
charge
that
would
basically
have
a
peaking
element
associated
with
it
to
encourage
conjunctive
use,
in
other
words,
utilization
of
surface
water
over
groundwater
when
possible
to
rest
the
aquifer.
C
C
And
this
this
kind
of
shows
after
2017,
when
we
implemented
that
big
straight
arrangement
for
rates
kind
of
the
increased
2017
and
beyond
the
increase
in
use
by
most
member
cities.
Next
slide.
C
So
what
we
have
proposed-
and
I'm
mentioning
this
in
his
introduction-
three
percent-
is
what
we
are
proposing
in
our
budget
for
the
rate
increase
for
member
city
charges
with
an
anticipated
three
percent
annually
through
fiscal
year,
27
so
kind
of
that
five
year.
Look
ahead!
Next
slide.
C
And
then,
as
for
other
revenue
sources,
we
are
increasing
rates
to
non-members
neighbor
entities
for
water
sales.
When
and
again
this
is
kind
of
back
to
that
surplus
sale
idea
and
we,
as
far
as
the
other
sources
of
revenue,
we're
not
increasing
the
certified
tax
rate.
Nor
are
we
proposing
any
changes
to
the
capital
assessments
next.
C
Some
of
the
reasons
that
for
the
metropolitan
water
district,
that
property
tax
is
important
as
far
as
a
revenue
source
that
first
bullet
item
in
the
gray
there
a
stable,
predictable
source
of
revenue,
and
so
that
that
is
one
of
the
key
elements
and
that's
really
important
when
it
comes
to
rating
agencies,
reviewing
our
district
and
giving
us
a
rating
and
and
that
directly
ties
to
the
cost
of
money.
As
I'm
sure
you
all
understand
when
it
comes
to
borrowing
and
bonding.
C
Also,
it
provides
a
mechanism
for
fairness,
so
properties
to
be
developed
in
the
future
are
paying
their
fair
share
for
facilities
being
developed
today,
and
so
that's
kind
of
an
important
element
as
well.
It
also
provides
a
resource
in
the
event
of
new
capacity
needs
or
natural
disasters,
and
it
also
provides
an
additional
revenue
source
when
we're
not
at
the
certified
rate,
as
maybe
just
a
quick
note,
salt
lake
city,
currently,
the
certified
rate
for
salt
lake
city
is
triple
zero.
C
C
So,
as
noted
here
also
it,
it
bolsters
good
monitorings,
and
I
mentioned
that
just
a
minute
ago.
It
also
finances
redevelopment
agency,
community
improvements,
so
there's
that
on
it,
that
is
set
aside
for
for
those
types
of
efforts
with
member
cities,
some
of
the
unintended
consequences,
potential
and
unintended
consequences
here.
C
Increased
rates
for
surface
water
will
likely
promote
more
groundwater
uses,
as
no
as
noted
here
also
tax-exempt
entities
will
likely
pay
more
in
rates
in
covering
the
difference
that
normally
be
helped
or
assisted
the
property
taxes,
and
this
last
bullet
item
in
in
fairness,
where
I
talk
about
the
lower
valued
properties,
potentially
seeing
a
relatively
greater
financial
burden.
C
C
So
for
the
operations
and
maintenance
expenses
specific
to
those
that
metro
looks
at
year
over
year,
6.8
is
what
we're
looking
at
for
an
increase
primarily
due
to
chemical
cost
increases,
as
I've
noted
here
and
those
are
based
on
unit
cost
increases
as
opposed
to
increased
quantities.
This
is
based
on
the
actual
cost
of
the
chemical
going
up,
as
you
can
imagine,
with
the
inflation
that
that
everyone
is
experiencing
we're,
seeing
cost
increases
across
the
board,
not
just
for
chemicals
but
for
equipment
and
other
things
as
well.
C
C
Thanks,
okay,
so
really
quickly.
Central
utah
and
I
wanted
to
note
one
of
the
big
impacts
we
have
with
the
o
m
budget
increases.
Is
the
central
utah
increases
that
continue
to
hit
us
year
in
and
year
out,
and
we
have
no
governance
or
authority
or
say
in
what
the
central
utah
board
chooses
to
do,
but
we
do
have
to
pay
these
assessments
be
able
to
continue
to
receive
that
water.
So
that's
really
important.
5.2
million
per
year
for
23
100
acre
feet.
Okay,
next
slide.
C
C
So
central
utah
also
just
quick
note:
nineteen
percent
of
metro's
water
rate
charge
in
salt
lake
city
is
allocated
to
central
utah
project.
So
that's
a
pretty
significant
chunk
next
slide.
C
Provo
river
water
users
association
just
really
quickly,
deer
creek
intake
project
is
really
the
big
project.
That's
on
the
radar
right
now
that
we're
working
with
that
association
to
prepare
to
execute
that
that
will
maintain
reliable
deliveries
through
the
dam
and
and
we've
already
programmed
the
the
cost
increases
associated
with
that
into
into
metro's
cash
flows.
So
when
we
say
we're,
looking
at
three
percent
increases
for
the
next
five
years.
C
C
Probably
the
really
important
thing
to
note
here
is
the
district
is
embarking
on
an
aquifer,
recharge
project
and
and
we
have
42
percent
of
the
cost
being
covered
by
arpa
funds
from
the
state,
so
a
grant
from
the
state
a
match
which
is
a
huge
benefit
and
to
be
able
to
help
recharge
the
aquifer
and
and
provide
that
resiliency
and
that
resource
into
the
future
is
a
really
important
and
a
valuable
project
for
the
member
cities.
C
C
So
debt
service-
just
really
quick
note
here.
Last
year
we
did
refund
our
2011a
bonds,
which
were
synthetically
fixed
to
accomplish
this.
With
the
net
present
savings
of
1.1
million
was
a
huge
accomplishment
and
a
big
de-risk
of
our
debt
portfolio,
so
a
great
great
accomplishment
there.
Our
current
bond
rating
is
double
a-plus,
with
s
p
and
fitch,
so
so
good
bond
ratings.
We
want
to
maintain
those,
not
anticipating
any
additional
debt
for
fiscal
year.
23
next
slide.
C
We've
already
talked
about
the
rate
increase,
we're
diligently
working
to
control
costs
as
much
as
we
reasonably
can,
and
and
no
no
new
debt
for
fiscal
year.
23.
next
slide.
I
think
that's
it
that
is
it
so
and
you,
some
most
of
you,
have
probably
seen
this
slide
before
it's
one
of
my
favorites.
This
was
our
scada
upgrades
project
automation,
upgrades
project
at
one
of
our
plants
years
ago.
So
with
that,
I
I'd
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions.
N
H
Have
a
cosmetically.
N
You
give
me
a
well
thank
you,
mr
chair,
the
it's
it's
a
more
of
a
random
question,
but
I
was
reading
about
your.
You
know,
mitigation
hazard
analysis
and
I
was
wondering
when
I
was
looking
at
the
historical
photos
of
those
pipelines
and
how
impressive
they
are,
this
the
aqueduct
and
they're
old
and
they're.
Well,
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
what
you
guys
consider
old,
but
they're,
older
than
they're,
very
old
for
me,
but
and.
N
I
cannot
even
imagine
one
of
those
breaking
and
how
much
water
will,
just
you
know,
swallow
half
of
the
city,
but
I,
and
also
like
jeopardize,
you
know,
probably
millions
of
people's
quality
of
life,
for
how
I
don't
know
even
how
long.
I
wonder
if
we
are
thinking
about
this
and
if
so,
if
there's
federal
money
to
make
them
more
reliable
and
safer
for
in
in
case
of
catastrophe,.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
and
excellent
points.
So
for
the
point
of
mountain
aqueduct,
that
is
a
newer
facility
and
is
seismically
designed
and
constructed
to
be
more
resilient.
The
salt
lake
aqueduct
is
the
older
one
that
I
think
you're
alluding
to
and
that
one
is
is
roughly
72
years
old
now
beyond
its
design
life.
C
So
a
couple
of
points
related
to
that
one
is
the
metropolitan
water
district
goes
through
a
conditional
assessment
of
that
pipeline
and
we
get
in,
and
we
inspect
basically
every
foot
of
that
aqueduct
over
the
course
of
about
every
five
years
to
see
what
kind
of
condition
it's
in
and
what
we've
found
so
far
is
that
the
solid
aqueduct
is
aging
gracefully,
a
nice
way
of
saying
that
it
looks
really
good
for
its
age
and
is
really
good
condition
to
your
point,
though
it
is
not
seismically
sound.
C
So
so
we
are
moving
that
direction.
With
these
analyses
that
we've
been
completing
and
because
we
are
completing
this
multi-hazard
analysis,
it
will
qualify
us
potentially
for
fema
brick
grant
funding.
So
that's
federal
funding
through
fema.
H
Thank
you
mike.
I
have
a
couple
just
questions
on
water
itself:
the
water
flowing.
It
shows
that,
on
the
one
slide
that
the
water
delivered
to
salt
lake
city
has
increased
over
the
last
couple
years,
and
but
our
our
usage
has
gone
down,
and
I
just
I'm
trying
to
balance
those
two
and
then
with
that
three
percent
increase
over
the
last
next
few
years.
How
do
you
account
for
our
conservation
of
water
and
then
our
needs
of
your
water
and
in
your
price,
your
rate
structure.
C
Yeah
those
are
great
questions
as
far
as
the
water
supply
side
of
things.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
and
they're
minor
increa
increases
for
salt
lake
city
they're
nominal
comparatively.
C
I
think
the
reasons
for
that
probably
relates
to
facilities
that
were
offline
and
laura
could
could
maybe
better
characterize
that
if
I'm
mischaracterizing
that,
for
example,
big
cotton
water
treatment
plant,
I
think
has
been
not
capable
for
whatever
reason
to
treat
at
capacity
for
at
a
few
different
points
in
time,
and
so
we've
provided
additional
water
to
help
offset
that,
and
I
think
conservation
is
still
being
accomplished.
So
that
may
be
a
little
bit
of
a
mis
misleading
number
that
you
see
there.
C
So
it's
it's
really
that
dynamic
that
may
be
at
play
with
salt
lake
city
and
as
far
as
the
pricing
signaling,
it's
a
little
more
difficult
for
a
wholesaler
to
manage
the
pricing
signaling
because
we're
not
dealing
directly
with
the
end
customer.
I
understand
the
question,
but
unfortunately,
because
most
of
how
we
manage
our
costs
are
just
directly
related
to
our
sunk
costs.
C
B
Well
on
the
water
supply
question
during
drought
years,
when
our
surface
water
sources
are
running
less
than
average,
we
do
rely
more
on
the
metro
sources.
So,
while
our
overall
water
consumption
across
our
system
decreased
in
those
years
due
to
good
conservation,
our
reliance
on
deer,
creek
and
provo
river
project,
central
utah
project
increased,
and
so
that's
why
you're?
Seeing
that
trend?
B
That
mike
is
showing
you
because
he's
showing
that
the
metro
sources
not
all
of
salt
lake
city
sources,
and
then
we
had
two
infrastructure
projects
or
one
big
infrastructure
project
on
mountain
dell
dam
which
decreased
our
ability
to
use
parley's
treatment
plant
for
sometimes
during
that
that
time
period.
So
again
we
had
to
rely
more
on
the
metro,
water
and
and
I'll
say.
That's
exactly.
H
N
I
I
just
remember
something
that
the
the
other,
the
other
water
one
of
the
jordan
valley
water
district,
does
the
flip
your
strip
program,
and
I
know
that
salt
lake
city
sort
of
did
it.
Some
of
this
I
believe
last
year,
and
but
it's
under
the
jordan
valley,
water,
district,
conservative
district
is
who
runs
the
program
and
and
the
other
parts
of
the
valley
here.
N
Obviously
this
is
a
different
water
district
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
it's
a
thing
that
you
know
we
should
we
should
embrace
as
much
as
other
water
districts
in
this
valley
have
embraced.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
maybe
a
quick
note
on
that,
and
I
laura
again,
if
you
have
better
insights
on
this,
feel
free
to
interject.
As
I
understand
it,
that
flip
your
strip,
opportunity
has
extended
beyond
jordan
valley's
service
area,
and
so
there
are
through
the
slow,
the
flow
website
and
and
through
water
savers
websites.
C
There
are
resources
for
retail
customers
beyond
just
the
jordan
valley
service
area,
so
other
parts
of
salt
lake,
county
and
beyond
that
can
benefit
from
those
opportunities
as
well,
and
so
so
it
is.
It
is
an
opportunity
that
I
believe
extends
into
the
member
city
areas
lori.
Maybe
you
can
clarify
I'm
mistaking
on
that.
B
Yeah
no
you're,
you're,
correct
mike
and
actually
all
of
salt
lake
city's
water
customers
can
access
those
incentive
programs
they're
actually
being
offered
through
central
utah
water,
conservancy
district
for
our
for
our
residents
and
customers
on
the
system
across
our
entire
service
area
and
we've
been
directing
folks
when
they
call
our
customer
service
line
or
via
email
to
those
programs
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
people
take
advantage
of
them.
N
So
this
is
new
right
because
I
tried
to
do
it
through
two
or
three
years
ago
and
I
didn't
qualify
and
but
so
if
now
the
residents
of
salt
lake
city
do
qualify
for
the
rebate,
we
should
definitely
push
it
more
and
I
will
love
to
push
it
in
my
district
with
through
my
newsletter
and
whatnot.
So
thank
you.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
yeah.
Great
point.
Sorry
laura!
Are
you
going
to
say
something
else?
Okay,
yeah!
No,
that's
a
great
point,
and
I
I
guess
the
reason
it
is
a
fairly
new
initiative
that
central
utah
is
is,
as
laura
mentioned,
supporting
financially,
but
in
fairness,
salt
lake
county
pays
property
taxes
to
central
utah
as
well.
So
so
it's
good
to
have
that
benefit.
H
T
H
T
Thank
you,
mr
chair
I'll.
Just
do
a
brief
introduction.
The
governmental
immunity
fund
operates
as
a
reserve
fund
of
sorts,
that's
managed
by
the
salt
lake
city
attorney's
office
to
address
claims
that
cover
employee-related
settlements.
There
are
nine
ftes
that
are
paid
for
by
this
fund,
everything
from
attorneys
to
office
facilitators
and
the
staffing
budget
for
fiscal
year
23
is
proposed
to
be
1.39
million,
which
is
44
of
the
fiscal
year.
23
proposed
budget,
the
fiscal
year
23
proposed
budget
total,
is
proposed
to
increase
from
2.9
million
to
3.1
million.
T
What's
new,
probably
about
the
budget
request
this
year
is
that
the
administration
is
proposing
to
establish
a
property
tax
line
item
to
pay
for
this
fund,
which
is
a
tool
that's
allowed
by
state
law.
The
the
amount
that
they're
proposing
for
that
property
tax
is
four
million
which,
as
you
know,
is
in
excess
of
the
3.1
million
dollar
budget
request.
T
B
Got
so
as
a
risk
manager,
I
I
manage
the
group
that
handles
non-litigated
claims
and
then
there
are
also
in-house
litigators
that
defend
the
city
in
in
matters
that
are
litigated,
and
so
the
information
that
I've
got
to
share
focuses
just
on
the
non-litigated
claims
and
you've
got
in
your
packets,
a
graph
that
shows
claims
by
fiscal
year
closed.
B
B
T
One
other
attachment
I
wanted
to
call
your
attention
to
that
tamra
provided
was
the
attachment
of
actual
claims
paid
by
department,
so
it's
sorted
by
department
and
you
can
kind
of
scroll
down
and
see
the
amount
and
type
the
type
of
claims
is.
I
think,
also
very
interesting
in
terms
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
employees
are
involved
in
that
result
in
settlements.
T
So
I
don't
know
if
the
council
had
any
questions
about
the
proposed
property
tax
shift
or
or
anything
else.
M
That's
my
motto
so
currently
there
is
no
fund
balance
at
all.
If
there's
ever
an
overage
that
just
comes
directly
out
of
the
city's
general
fund
fund
balance.
Is
that
correct.
T
So
right,
so
in
previous
years,
the
city
has,
through
the
non-departmental
fund,
allocated
general
fund
dollars
to
essentially
act
as
this
fund.
In
cases
where
claims
exceeded
that
amount,
we
would
have
a
budget
amendment
and
so
fund
balance
would
kick
in
to
you
know,
assess
any
specific
claims.
What
the
proposal
is
to
do
is
to
reduce
that
contribution
from
non-departmental
and
have
it
exclusively
come
from
property
taxes
from
its
own
property
tax?
I
call
it
a
line
item,
but
really
it's.
T
M
B
I
add
something:
sorry,
I
think
we'll
help
okay.
So
there
is
a
fund,
a
governmental
immunity
fund,
that's
separate
from
the
governmental
immunity
budget
and
there's
an
actuarial
report.
That's
done
every
year
to
look
at
what
our,
what
our
losses
are
and
what
our
history
is,
and
they
make
a
recommendation
as
to
the
amount
of
funding
that
we
need
to
reserve
for
those
claims.
B
The
problem
is
that
the
amount
that
we
have
in
reserve
is
really
not
enough
for
some
of
the
anticipated
matters
that
we
have
coming
up.
We
need
to
build
that
up
and
by
by
taking
this
approach
with
the
property
tax,
it
would
allow
the
city
to
build
that
up
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
a
case
with
maybe
a
a
major
settlement
or
a
judgment
that
we
couldn't
pay
for
yeah.
M
I'm
thinking
of
it
as
just
the
city
is
instead
of
having
one
bank
account
we're
adding
another
sub
bank
account
to
sit
there
and
collect
funds,
because,
as
that
self-insurance
that
it,
when
something
happens,
that
we
have
a
liability
claim,
there's
some
money
there.
It
still
may
not
entirely
cover
it
right,
but
right.
B
T
B
Q
Two
questions
one.
So
this
is
allowed
by
law
that
a
city
may
ask.
T
Q
T
Property
tax
levy,
a
separate
property
tax
levy,
and
it's
unique
for
for
this
specific
purpose
and
it's
very
unique
in
state
law
because,
like
state
law,
doesn't
allow
us
to
do
that
for
parks.
For
example,
like
other
states,
do
they
allow
cities
to
do
a
separate
property
tax
levy
for
parks?
So
it
is
an
unusual
tool.
We've
pointed
it
out
in
years
past
as
a
potential
budget,
saving
and
yeah.
Q
T
Doesn't
look
like
there's
a
trend
for
an
increase
in
claims
like
to
to
tamara's
point.
If
you
look
at
that
bar
graph,
there's
not
an
uptick
in
claims.
In
fact,
if
anything,
it's
a
decrease.
T
I
think
that
what
tamara
was
saying
about
the
claims
on
the
horizon
being
a
concern
is,
is
probably
probably
factors
into
the
decision.
I
don't
know
if
rachel
wants
to
speak
to
why
the
timing
of
this
year
versus
other
years
or
cable.
B
B
T
Right,
thank
you.
So
it's
a
cautious
approach.
I
guess
too,
in
that
property
taxes
are
a
very
stable
revenue
source.
T
Right
now
so
in
you
know
up
until
now-
and
actually
I
wish
the
news
here-
but
she
she
clarified
that
actually
in
the
80s,
the
city
used
to
do
this
and
they
went
away
from
it
and
funded
it
with
the
general
fund
in
the
early
80s
and
so
right
now
we
fund
it
through
non-departmental,
which
is
our
general
fund.
So
it's
not
necessarily
fund
balance
because
we
fund
it
every
year.
So
it's
an
ongoing
cost
funded
by
the
general
fund.
T
M
Mr
chair,
just
so
I
understand
the
four
million
dollars
is
going
to
pay
for
the
3.1
million
dollar
cost.
That's
anticipated,
plus
fund
balance
of
that
3.1
million
dollars.
Some
of
that
is
going
to
cover
expenses
for
nine
ftes,
but
those
nine
ft's
are
actually
housed
in
the
attorney's
department.
T
It's
it's
basically,
I
I
guess
the
way
to
describe
it.
Is
it
it
kind
of
doesn't
matter
where
an
employee
lives
on
the
staffing
document,
the
budget
kind
of
determines
who
pays
the
salary
right?
And
so
you
could
have,
and
you
can
see
page
two
of
the
staff
report
I
think,
goes
through
the
detail
of
the
employees,
so
.5
of
an
office
facilitator
is
funded
by
this
fund.
So
that
means
in
the
attorney's
office
an
office
facilitator,
half
of
their
salary
is
paid
for
by
this
fund.
Does
that
make
sense.
B
M
B
Members,
those
are
currently
existing
ftes.
This
is
not
a
request
for
new
ftes,
so
it's
our
litigators
and
those
who
support
our
litigators
because
they
are
the
ones
who
are
litigators
are
the
ones
who
do
the
governmental
immunity
work,
because
it's
all
the
claims
and
the
litigation
that
follows
those.
So
these
are
not
requests
for
new
positions.
They're,
they're
positions.
B
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
the
philosophy
around
this
and
having
sort
of
that
insurance
policy
if
you
will
and
that
forward
thinking
idea
and
having
a
continued
revenue
source.
I
do,
however,
have
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
doing
it
this
year,
considering
we're
raising
taxes
and
all
of
our
rate
increases
and
the
library
increase,
and
not
not
that
we're
not
going
to
raise
taxes
in
the
future.
E
I
just
have
some
concern
about
this,
especially
if
we're
looking
right
now
at
I'm
pulling
this
up
real
quick,
even
if
we
were
to
put
four
million
into
this,
just
as
like
we're
taking
it
out
of
the
general
fund
and
it's
going
into
the
governmental
immunity
bucket
that
and-
and
we
did,
that
we
would
still
be
10
million
over
the
13
minimum
threshold
for
fund
balance
for
this
year.
Right
because
we're
14
percent
everywhere
14
million
over.
T
K
K
Thank
you
just
while
katie's
here,
I
know
that
usually
cindy
is
our
rememberer
in
chief,
is
what
I
like
to
call
her.
If
they're-
and
I
don't
know
like
why
this
decision
happened
back
in
the
80s
to
go
away
from
funding
it
this
way,
but
is
there
any
like
benefit
or
or
reason
that
you
can
think
of
that
would
have
been
offered
back
then
other
than
just
keeping
property
taxes
lower?
Is
that
the
only
rationale
or
is
there
some
other
kind
of
reason
that
might
exist.
L
S
I
think
they
probably
didn't
want
to
raise
taxes
or
raise
taxes
as
much
in
the
general
fund
and
they
had
more
money
in
the
governmental
immunity
fund,
and
so,
if
they
merged
them,
they
would
have
more
flexibility
in
the
general
fund.
So
it
really
always
is
about
the
need
for
flexibility
and
the
lack
of
adequate
resources.
So
it's
probably
a
decision
that
put
us
where
we
are
today,
because
we
don't
have
a
savings
account
and
we
don't
have
a
we're
not
looking
at
it
actually
or
anything
like
that,
we're
just
getting
by
paying
claims.
So.
K
S
Just
my
own
opinion
is
it's:
it's
far
better
to
do
it
this
way,
because
the
the
funds
are
specifically
identified
for
a
particular
purpose,
and
you
have
the
chance
to
possibly
get
a
little
bit
of
fund
balance
in
that
area,
and
you
can
begin
to
do
some
of
the
things
that
would
happen
in
a
regular
insurance
profession
and
what
self-insured
best
practice
is
is
to
set
aside
some
some
reserves
when
you
know
that
you
have
a
claim,
and
that
type
of
a
thing
we're
so
far
off
of
of
being
able
to
do
that
that
this
would
just
be
the
baby
step
into
that
cameras
up
fair
to
say
that
we
just
haven't
had
the
resources
ever,
we've
had
the
desire,
but
we
haven't
had
the
financial
resources.
S
So
this
this
change
doesn't
make
us
rich
or
anything.
It
just
means
we
can
begin
to
move
in
that
direction
where
we
can
hopefully
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
have
some
better
planning
and
that
type
of
thing.
B
I
mean
there
is
a
fund
balance,
that's
maintained,
but
it's
pretty
minimal.
I
mean
it's
a
couple
million
dollars
at
any
given
time.
It's
the
amounts
based
on
an
actuarial.
B
You
know
evaluation,
that's
done
every
year,
but
with
federal
claims,
they're,
not
subject
to
governmental
immunity,
caps,
a
judgment,
a
bad
judgment
could
just
wipe
us
out
quickly.
We
just
don't
have
a
very
good
reserve
setup
and
I
think
this
approach
would
allow
us
to
build
that
up
and
have
some
kind
of
security
against
those
larger
claims.
Yeah.
K
M
S
I
was
here,
maybe,
but
I'm
not
sure
and
and
the
attorney's
office
would
have
to
tell
us
whether
there
are
some
other
expenses
that
could
go
into
that
fund.
If,
if
you
got
in
that
position
like,
for
example,
the
training
and
safety
programs
that
are
currently
funded
in
the
general
fund,
if
you,
if
you
had
or
lost
prevention,
basically,
I
don't
know
if
that
can
come
out
of
this
fund
or
not
do
you
happen
to
know.
T
But
we,
I
think
what
they're
asking
is
like
in
future
years.
If
the
general
fund
was
squeezed,
could
you
transfer
some
of
those
costs
to
the
governmental
immunity
fund
that
has
its
own
property
tax
line
item?
You
could
definitely
reduce
property
taxes.
T
You
know
to
reflect
economic
conditions,
if
you,
if
you
didn't,
have
claims
and
the
fund
was
just
building
up
and
building
up,
but
maybe
maybe
we
can
look
into
that
further
and
get
back
to
you.
Yeah.
S
T
I
did
want
to
just
share
one
other
piece
that
we
will
need
to
confirm
when
we
get
our
final
numbers
from
the
state
tax
commission
right
now.
There's
a
cap
of
.0001,
I
think
of
the
as
the
rate
on
our
total
taxable
value
for
the
city
and
so
calculating
that
using
the
current
total
taxable
value,
it
would
not
be
sufficient
to
generate
four
million
dollars
it
would
generate
about
3.1.
T
Ironically,
I
think
all
of
us
anticipate
that
values
will
increase
from
last
year,
and
so
you
know
that
headroom
will
probably
increase,
but
I
just
wanted
to
flag
it
in
case
I
have
to
come
to
you
on
june
9th
and
say
we
need
to
change
the
actual
amount
in
this
budget.
H
All
right,
thank
you,
tamra!
Thank
you.
Katie
jennifer
council
members
we're
a
little
bit
ahead
of
schedule
right
now,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
start
the
unresolved
issue,
discussion
and
then
we'll.
When
judge
jojo
liu
comes
we'll
cut
from
the
unresolved
and
go
to
the
advise
and
consent.
B
H
So
jennifer
it's
we're
at
item
number
11
right
now:
fiscal
year,
20
22
to
23
budget
unresolved
issues,
follow-up.
H
T
T
The
other
things
that
your
places
you'll
find
are
the
tracking
spreadsheet
of
unresolved
issues,
which
is
a
really
really
really
long
sheet
three
pages,
as
well
as
two
printouts
that
show
the
geo
bond
projects,
the
sales
tax
bond
projects
and
the
cip
projects
all
in
one
place.
So
that's
just
to
orient
you
to
sort
of.
What's
at
your
places,
hopefully
that's
helpful
in
general.
T
We
use
this
time
as
the
time
where
all
of
us
have
been
collecting
the
different
ideas
that
you
have
all
asked
or
mentioned,
either
in
the
public
work
session
briefings
or
in
private
kind
of
one-on-one
budget
meetings.
Small
group
meetings-
and
so
it
really
is
just
an
inventory
of
thoughts
as
of
today,
and
so
it
is
not
necessarily
complete.
You
can
add
or
remove
things
at
any
time,
change
things.
We
also
have
listed
a
few
things
that
have
been
clarified
from
the
administration
recently
and
so
you'll
see
those
on
the
list.
T
But
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
got
this
complete
list
sort
of
as
a
starting
point
so
that
hopefully
over
the
next
three
work
sessions,
we
can
make
decisions
on
all
of
those
things.
So
no
pressure
because
we
are
required
to
have
a
balanced
budget
and
revenues
have
to
line
up
with
expenses
I'll
go
ahead.
S
Just
when
jennifer
says
the
next
three
work
sessions,
I
think
you're
being
generous
right
because
because
after
today
and
after
tuesday,
if
you're
doing
anything
big,
we
really
need
to
know
by
tuesday,
because
the
attorney's
office
needs
some
time
to
write
ordinances
and
the
finance
department
needs
some
time
to
double
check
us.
So
so
we
hope
that
everything
we
get
as
much
resolved
on
tuesday
and
tonight
as
possible
and
then
thursday
will
be
loose
ends
and
then
the
next
tuesday
adoption.
So
if
you're
making
changes
on
the
on
tuesday,
the
14th
is
it
right?
T
Yeah,
we
will
say
it
yeah,
the
the
the
wild
card-
and
this
happens
every
year,
unfortunately,
is
that
the
state
and
county
have
until
june
8th
to
get
us
our
final
property
tax
numbers.
Our
final
values
that
I
was
just
mentioning
and
so
what's
proposed
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
is
a
fairly
conservative
estimate
for
new
growth,
but
that
is
really
the
wild
card.
If
we
end
up
with
less
than
that,
we'll
need
to
reshuffle
on
june
9th
and
cut
things
or
increase
the
property
tax.
T
T
What
june
9th
will
be
reserved
for
is
follow-up
from
that
information,
and
so
hopefully,
we'll
have
made
our
way
through
the
long
slog
of
all
the
little
things
before
that,
so
the
staff
report,
I
think
what
we
to
discuss
with
the
chair
is
that
we're
going
to
start
with
the
staff
report
rather
than
the
big
long
list,
because
it
may
help
cut
down
our
time
on
the
big
long
list.
If
you
guys,
you
know,
decide
as
a
group
that
things
are
either
you
know
good
or
not
good.
T
So,
mr
chair,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
context
you
want
to
share.
Oh,
I
did
want
to
mention
the
cip
so
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
a
different
situation
this
year,
as
it
relates
to
cip
and
the
two
bonds,
while
they
are
not
technically
needed
to
be
finalized
for
budget
adoption,
they're
very
much
interwoven
with
what
is
in
the
budget.
So,
for
example,
there's
a
placeholder
for
debt
service
for
the
sales
tax
bond.
T
If
you
wanted
to
reduce
cip,
if
you
wanted
to
reduce
the
budget
to
save
money
on
the
sales
tax
or
to
save
money
on
the
property
tax
increase,
you
could
reduce
the
size
of
that
sales
tax
bond
and
therefore
you
know
reduce
the
size
of
the
property
tax
increase,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
that
context
so
that
you
knew
alternately.
If
you
wanted
to
increase
the
size
of
the
sales
tax
bond
to
do
more
projects,
you
might
need
to
increase
the
amount
of
debt
service.
T
Therefore,
increasing
property
taxes
or
cutting
other
things,
so
it's
sort
of
like
dominoes
right
where
one
one
thing
affects
lots
of
things,
and
so
that's
why
we
provided
that
the
main
cip
discussion
will
be
on
tuesday,
where
ben
and
the
cip
group
is
going
to
go
over
the
sort
of
basic
cip
budget,
but
because
there
are
these
major
investments
in
things
that
are
also
capital
projects.
The
chair
and
vice
chair
asked
to
see
it
all
in
context
and
thanks
to
mary
beth
for
putting
that
together
so
quickly.
T
T
M
T
Down
you
are,
it
depends
on
what
your
definition.
T
The
expenses
by
one
million
dollars.
So
if
you
accepted
everything
that
people
have
recommended
adding
you
would
be
one
million
dollars
out
of
balance.
T
But
I
don't
know
that
councilmember,
like
I
haven't,
received
as
many
suggestions
from
council
members
about
specific
line
items
to
cut,
and
so
I
have
not
factored
that
into
that
number.
And
so,
of
course
you
could
add
a
million
dollars
of
things.
But
if
you
find
a
million
dollars
of
things
to
cut,
then
then
you're
good
alternately.
If
you
decided
to
increase
revenue
or
decided
to
pull
from
fund
balance
that
that
makes
it
good
too
and
as
as
you
straw
poll
things,
staff
will
be
keeping
track
on
this
spreadsheet.
T
I'm
hesitant
to
share
it
because
I'm
going
to
be
going
back
and
forth
for
my
screens,
okay
I'll
I'll,
probably
be
able
to
share
it
at
the
next
meeting.
I
won't
need
to
go
back
and
forth
so
often,
but
all
right.
So
on
the
list
of
items
to
add
council
member
pui
recommended
a
tree
watering
public
information
campaign,
50
000,
was
sort
of.
T
And
I
don't
know
if
mr
chair,
if
you
want
to
just
let
council
members,
speak
to
each
of
their
ideas
and
then
discuss
it
or
I'm.
H
Okay
with,
but
let's
keep
the
conversation
kind
of
short
in
the
description
short.
We
don't
want
to
go
too
far
in
the
rabbit
hole.
I
mean
this
is
early
in
the
evening
and
then
at
10
o'clock
tonight
when
we're
all
tired-
and
we
have
some
really
difficult
ones
just
to
talk
about.
We
don't
say
this,
so
let's
keep
it
short
on
this
side.
H
As
far
as
mr
chairman,
we
can
do
up
and
down
straw
polls
at
that
point
also,
and
if
you
don't,
if
you're
kind
of
on
the
on
the
edge,
then
just
don't
vote,
I
mean
okay.
M
M
But
if
we,
if
we
have
general
consensus
on
that,
then
yeah,
it's
probably
easy
to
find
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
tree
watering
information.
But
if
we
vote
yes
on
all
these
little
things,
and
then
we
also
realize
that
we
have
to
cut
four
million
dollars
out,
then
we're
never
gonna
get
there.
But
that's
just
a
suggestion.
You
know
I
don't
know.
H
E
Mr
chair,
I
don't
know
that
I
would
feel
comfortable
having
strap
holes
on
people's
baby
projects
without
knowing
sort
of
I
mean
I'm
fine
like
hearing
about
them,
but
and
maybe
looking
at
where
that
would.
I
know
when
we
do
cips
ben
always
kind
of
adds
the
thing
in,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
do
that
next
time
and
then
we
can
see
how
far
how
far
out
of
budget
we
are
out
of
balance.
We
are
and
then
at
that
point
it
seems
easier
to
be
able
to
say
okay.
E
H
Yeah
and
I
and
that's
why
I
was
kind
of
saying
that,
if
you're
not
unsure
whether
you
want
to
approve
or
you're
for
it
or
against
it,
you
don't
vote
on
it.
So
that's
why
I
was
looking
at
the
straw
poll.
If
you're
like
hey,
we
got
seven
people
that
all
totally
like
this
one,
but
if
we
have
a
number
of
people
that
are
kind
of
up
in
the
air
we
just
table
it
and
maybe
maybe
that
straw
pulls
the
wrong
word.
T
H
T
So
the
first
item
is
the
tree:
watering
public
education
campaign.
N
I
you
know,
I
I
had
25
minutes
of
talking
points
for
you,
councilman
chair,
mr
chair,
the
no
I
I
just
want
this
program
to
succeed.
N
I
want
those
trees
to
live,
and
I
believe
that
we're
just
doing
the
first
step
on
a
multi-step
process,
and
if
we
are
not
going
to
do
this,
I
will
suggest
that
we
actually
cut
the
program
because
the
trees
we
cut
the
program
not
for
all
the
trees.
We
cut
the
programs
for
the
free
trees
for
the
ones
that
people
are
not
requesting.
We
go
back
to
the
plan
that
was
trees,
that
people
requested.
N
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
living.
Those
are
the
ones
that
only
have
15
death
rates.
The
people
that
are
just
getting
trees
planted
on
their
front
yards
without
any
information
without
any
support,
are
dying,
a
greater,
very,
very
bad
numbers,
and
I
want
this
program
to
work.
So
if
we
are
going
to
not
do
this
educational
campaign-
and
maybe
it's
less
than
50
000-
I
don't
know,
but
then
I
was
reading
about
the
the
suggestion
on
that
number,
and
you
know
I
I
support
that.
N
P
M
E
N
So
I
asked
the
you
know
this.
This
is
a
very
good
question
because
I
also
didn't
know
what
we
needed
to
do
to
make
this
program,
which
I
believe
is
a
very
good
program.
I
want
more
trees
and
I
believe,
the
mayor's
vision
on
this.
I
want
to
have
see
more
thousand
trees
every
year
and
I
was
wondering
what
we
need
to
do,
and
this
is
the
response
from
the
administration.
N
For
us
say:
if
we
do
this
educational
campaign,
we
we
can
ensure
a
survival,
a
higher
survival
and
they
allocated
this
in
different
50
000
as
a
total
amount
of
money.
If
I
remember
right,
I
just
cannot
find
it
right
now.
N
I
have
too
many
tabs
open,
but
is
part
of
it
is
to
educate
people
about
the
value
and
about
how
much
not
it's
not
expensive
to
water.
Your
tree,
some
of
it,
is
probably
for
bags
and
other
materials
for
it.
So
it
is
the
response
of
the
administration.
This
amount
of
money
I
didn't
selected
is
the
administration's
response.
P
N
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question.
I
appreciate
that
a
lot
and
I
believe
from
from
you
know
deep
in
my
heart
that
the
administration
really
wants
this
program
to
succeed,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
something
that
they
value
and
I
value
and
the
west
side
people
value.
But
I
we
should
probably
definitely
ask
a
question
very
directly
is:
can
they
handle
the
educational
campaign?
Can
they
handle
this?
Will
that
actually
make
a
difference,
and
can
they
do
it
so
and.
T
Okay,
so
no
okay
and
public
lands
is
not
here,
because
the
peanut
board
is
meeting
right
now,
and
so
they
let
us
know
that
they're
double
booked,
but
we
can
follow
up
with
them
and
ask
them.
T
K
I
do
so
this
would
be
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
we
could
start
with
10
to
12
of
these
signs
and
that
would
be
for
historic
place.
Making
these
are
kind
of
like
big,
like
heavy
signs,
not
like
a
not
like
a
no
parking
sign
or
something
like
that.
They're
like
historical
markers
and
then
ask
our
human
rights
commission-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
some
other
groups
to
identify
like
10
or
12,
really
historic
places
in
the
city.
To
put
these
signs
up.
K
Some
of
the
areas
that
I
had
in
mind
was
like
plum
alley
where
the
former
chinatown
was
there
could
be
one
for
you
know
either
the
sun,
tavern
or
metro
music
hall
as
being
former
like
some
of
the
oldest
gay
bars
in
the
country
at
the
time,
and
I
think
that
these
are
these
are
really
important
for
the
city
and
especially
for
right
now,
because
so
many,
I
think,
we've
lost
a
lot
of
our
some
of
these
historic
places
where
some
of
the
first
communities
in
our
city
were
established,
and
sometimes
it's
difficult
in
utah
for
people
that
are,
you
know,
coming
from
either
an
ethnic
minority
or
a
religious
minority
or
or
some
other
marginalized
group,
to
look
around
and
see
yourself
and
your
community's
history.
K
So
this
is
my
suggestion
for
trying
to
bring
some
of
that
back.
I
also
think
that
it
provides
an
incentive
for
people
to
go
out
and
walk
around
our
city
and
their
our
downtown
area
during
their
lunch
break
or
whatever,
and
you
know
it's
potential
attraction
for
visitors
to
our
city
to
come,
learn
more
about
the
the
the
historic
narratives
of
salt
lake
city
that
maybe
are
lesser
known.
So
yeah.
That's
the
the
purpose
for
this
request
and
as
far
as
trying
to
make
it
neutral.
K
I
I
would
just
ask
that
this
come
from
fund
balance,
because
it
is
only
30
000
and
it's
not
likely
that
this
is
something
that
will
have
to
I
mean
these
signs
are
pretty
intense
in
terms
of
strength,
so
I
don't
anticipate
that
there
will
be
much
maintenance
or
that
we'll
have
to
replace
them
very
often
and
they're,
usually
about
2500
each.
H
Thanks
chris,
as
far
as
I
know,
I
have
a
community
in
my
area.
That's
doing
some
signs,
historic
signs,
street
signs
and
it's
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
them.
I
think
it
was
ten
ten
or
twelve
signs
there.
So
that's
just
a
recent
cip,
and
so
my
first
question
is
this:
should
this
be
on
the
cip
list,
the
community,
cip
or
historic
preservation,
cip.
H
H
K
Well,
I
don't
know
necessarily
that
they
will
be,
and
if
they
are,
then
I
guess
I
could
ask
for
or
then
I
guess
we
could
revisit
that.
But
so
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
ask
like
how
much
they
would
be
but
and
then
I
should
clarify
that
these
would
be
for
the
downtown
area
not
for
for,
like
other.
P
H
N
S
H
E
Can
can
I
qualify
this,
I'm
okay
with
this?
If,
but
we
were
just
talking
about
it,
I
feel
like.
Maybe
this
would
live
in
not
in
the
parks
department
but
in
the
community
engagement
department
out
of
the
mayor's
office
or
in
that
area,
but
I
think
that's
for
a
different
discussion,
just
putting
the
money
there.
H
H
M
E
Q
At
manpower,
can
they
do
it?
Are
they
going
to
come
back
next
year
to
say?
Well,
this
is
a
great
program.
Now
we
need
enough
teachers
to
water,
the
teach
people
how
to
water
the
trees
and
when
and
then-
and
then
third,
I'm
still,
you
know,
I
think,
like
last
week
when
we
met
I'm
still
like
not
a
hundred
percent
sure
about
all
the
increases
and
where
we
can
squeeze
so
that
the
increase
is
not
as
high
in
in
general
like
in
texas.
Q
M
M
Makes
me
feel
like
well:
if
we're
going
to
be
cutting
things
out
of
this
budget,
then
I
can't
add
anything
else
in
I
I'm
not
in
that
camp.
I
feel
like
the
increases
are
important
and
we
need
to
be
supporting
our
city
residents
and
our
city's
residents
quality
of
life.
But
if
we're.
M
N
N
To
find
from
the
proposed
budget,
you
know,
I
think,
between
all
of
us.
I
think
I
already
found
some
interesting
questions.
I
have-
and
I
you
know
and
between
during
this
meeting
and
and
so
forth,
but
I
again
I
will.
I
will
just
mention
this:
the
west
side.
It
has
the
worst
air
quality
in
this
in
the
city,
the
west
side
needs
trees.
We
also
have
very
few
trees
on
the
west
side
and
I
believe
this
mayor's
vision
on
the
trees.
N
So
if
we're
going
to
find
savings,
let's
just
save
save
it
there,
and
I
that
would
be
my
suggestion
so,
but
but
I
think
maybe
in
this
one,
maybe
we
should
wait
until
the
administration
can
give
us
an
answer
about.
Can
they
handle
the
educational
campaign
and
could
they
maybe
reduce
that
50
000
to
a
little
less
and
still
give
us
a
first
year
educational
campaign
and
then
prove
to
us
that
it
worked?
I
think
that
would
be
a
question
that
I
would
be
willing
to
and.
P
So
I'd
like
to
know
is
this
educational
campaign
in
this
amount
enough,
or
should
we
go
a
little
further
while
we're
doing
the
heavy
lifting
anyway
and
get
some
materials
and
get
some
other
things
to
make
it
actually
count?
I
don't
want
to
do
half
measures
just
because
we're
afraid
of
a
headline
and
a
publication.
H
K
You
all
right,
I
will
propose
my
own
that
we
fund
this
and
that
we
do
it.
This
is
a
one-time
thing
that
I'm
asking
for
I'm
asking
for
it
out
of
fund
balance.
I
am
not
asking
for
it,
irrespective
of
what
we
do
with
the
budget.
Thirty
thousand
dollars
is
not
gonna
tip
us
off
of
the
threshold
for
fund
balance
that
we
try
to
keep.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
for
it
thanks.
H
So
the
next
straw
poll
is
on
the
historic.
K
H
Who's
in
favor
of
the
historic
signs,
I
have
two
three
three
in
favor,
and
I
am.
I
would
rather
go
to
the
cip
for
community
action
and
make
it
50.
H
So
so
we
have,
we
have
four
four
four
four
votes
for.
Yes
on
that
one.
K
T
Great
next
is
an
item
that
the
council
would
have
to
add.
If
the
council
is
interested
in
doing
a
geo
bond
this
year,
which
it
sounds
like
the
council
is
interested
in
doing
the
bond
potentially
changing
the
projects
but
regardless,
if
you
change
the
projects,
we
need
to
pay
the
county
to
run
the
election
because
there's
not
currently
funding
in
the
budget.
For
that
I
don't
know
if
cindy
lou
has
an
update
from
the
county,
or
you
said
they
were
going
to
get
to
you
monday.
T
E
T
Okay,
I
see
it
would
be
so
cool
if
there
were
seven
okay.
It
just
feels
good.
Okay,
let's
see
the
next
one
is
east-west
special
events
associated
with
the
july
holidays.
T
If
the
council
remembers,
we
did
not
fund
the
fireworks
for
this
year
and
asked
the
department
to
come
back
with
ideas
for
alternative
celebrations.
They
have
identified
potentially
a
laser
based
show.
T
N
N
I
want
to
cap
it
there
and
I
believe
that
the
community
wants
celebrations,
and
this
is
fine,
but
I
also
don't
want
this.
I
want
to
have
clarification
with
about
what
that
means
that
they're
going
to
come
back
for
more
money.
S
N
E
S
E
A
lock
box,
I
think
that
I
think
the
and
then,
if
it,
if
we
can
use
it,
yes,
and
if
not,
it
would
just
fall
back
down
into
the
general
fund
right.
S
You
I
I
think
in
this
case
either
you
need
to
allocate
it
or
not
just
because
it's
time
they
are
going
they're
playing
catch
up
as
it
is,
and
so
it'd
be
a
pretty
rough
spot
to
be
in
to
not
have
it
for
sure.
But
but
you
can,
if
it
doesn't
happen,
you
can
easily
just
in
another
budget
opening
just
get.
T
Okay,
next
item
is
some
council
members
raised
the
idea
during
the
police
department
budget
to
restore
the
street
racing
mitigation
funding,
which
would
include
renting
and
moving
steel
plates
and
officer
overtime
at
sixty
thousand
dollars.
I.
N
I
have
some
questions
about
this
one.
Obviously
this
is
something
that
is
based
a
huge
problem
in
my
district,
and
I
I
I
realized
that
this
is
I'm
going
to
be
the
only
one,
probably
like
very
strong
about
this,
but
this
is
a
gigantic
problem
in
my
district,
the
question
is
about
the
overtime.
Could
the
police
department
absorb
this
over
time
and
try
to?
N
I
know
that
the
I
know
that
that
is
hard
to
ask,
but
can
we
cover
the
this
rental
of
the
steel
plates
and
know
the
overtime
try
to
just
bring
the
cost
down
because
it
was
significantly
smaller
before,
but
the
rental
fees
have
gone
up
significantly?
I.
T
Was
going
to
say
I
I
know
that
it
says
that
it
includes
overtime,
I'm
skeptical,
that
it
does,
and
so
I
I
could
see
that
fund
being
needed
just
to
rent
the
plates.
Okay.
N
I
see
yeah
and
I
they
only
this
problem
hasn't
been
solved.
The
only
thing
that
changed
is
the
law
now
allows
the
police
to
charge
the
people
that
are
doing
this
speed,
raising
harder
fines,
that's
it,
but
this
problem
and
they
they'd
race
through
the
neighborhoods
on
the
west
side
to
get
to
this
place,
and
it's
a
gigantic
problem
and
those
steel
plates
ruin
the
cars.
So
I
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
not
give
up
and
still
support
this.
T
Okay,
then
council
member
dugan
suggested
that
we
fund
the
free,
fair
transit,
the
way
the
city
funded
it
for
free,
fair
february,
but
extend
it
to
three
months
to
cover
most
of
the
winter
months.
T
I
didn't
know
which
what
amount
to
put
in
obviously
the
amount
if
we
paid
for
all
of
it,
would
be
very
significant
because
I
think
it's
two
million
a
month
or
something.
H
Yeah
this
is
a
longer
longer
push
because
we
have
a
way
to
live.
It's
a
heavy
lift,
because
it
would
also
include
a
couple
of
other
counties
so
and
this
would
be
towards
the
end
of
the
year.
So
I
like
that,
just
that
we
earmark
it
make.
We
intend
that
if
we
have
the
fund
balance,
then
we
can
get
the
buy-in
from
the
other
counties
and
maybe
even
some
of
the
state
to
do
a
winter's
three
months.
H
I'm
I
hate
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
do
a
a
free
fair
day,
because
families
don't
plan
that
far.
You
know
so
quickly.
Right,
oh
yeah,
you
can
it's
free,
fair
tomorrow
to
provide
public
transportation.
Well,
I
already
have
my
babysitter
lined
up.
I
already
have
everything
else
lined
up,
but
if
we
do
it
over
a
month
of
time,
we
can
actually
see
some
see
some
movement
in
the
needle
on
the
air
quality
and
probably
the
use
of
public
transportation.
H
T
We
can
turn
it
into
a
legislative
intent,
possibly
and
maybe
ask
that
the
administration
engage
with
us
and
partners
to
see
yeah
yeah.
T
S
And
there
was
another
factor
which
is
that
the
the
the
farebox
revenue
was
so
low
because
of
covid
that
that's
what
they
charged
us
based
on
now
the
farebox
level
revenue
is
higher,
so
it
would
be
a
higher
charge
in
two
different
ways,
but
so
what
you
need
is
more
partners
right
and
that's
the
job
ahead
of
everybody.
H
E
N
Yeah,
I
I
think,
mr
chair
very
quickly.
I
you
know
if
this
city
is
up
to
is
going
to
raise
taxes
because
we
have
to
and
one
of
the
most
impactful
things
that
the
city
could
do
is
is
help
with
transportation.
So
you
know
transportation
communities
like
mine
could
be
game
changers.
So
thank
you
for
this.
T
All
right,
the
next
items
we
grouped
into
because
they
were
all
related
to
traffic
calming
one
idea-
was
to
fund
more
traffic
engineers
to
expedite
traffic
calming
projects.
The
department
did
not
ask
for
this,
but
more
staff
to
do
more.
Things
felt
like
two
one
councilmember
like
important
to
pursue,
so
we
just
have
the
annual
cost
per
fte
there
as
a
reference.
H
So
we're
looking
we're
asking
to
add
one
fte
to
the
traffic
calming
program.
E
E
Can
I
finish
this
question
though?
Yes,
thank
you
because
I'm
with
you
and
we
have
traffic,
call
me
and
measures
that
have
been
funded
over
a
couple
of
years
and
aren't
done
yet
so
john
one
is,
would
it
help
if
we
got
some
more
ftes
in
the
department
to
focus
on
traffic
calming
and
two?
Do
you
think
we
can
hire
people
that
can
do
this
like?
I
know,
there's
sort
of
this
hiring
shortage
in
all
departments
and
everywhere,
but
can
you
give
me
some
thoughts
on
how
we
could
actually
get
traffic
calming
done
quicker.
J
Yeah
on
the
I'll
just
say
that
the
program's
highly
scalable-
and
so
you
know,
I'm
not
gonna,
advocate
for
anything,
not
the
mayor's
budget,
but
I
will
say
that
it's
highly
scalable,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
staff
and
it's
capital,
the
more
you
have
of
each
the
the
more
you
can
implement
right
and
then,
as
far
as
staffing.
J
I
mean
that
that's
hard
to
answer,
because
we've
been
fully
staffed
for
almost
three
years
now
and
haven't
had
any
turnover,
but
I
do
know
that
historically,
our
division
is
known
as
a
place
where
people
want
to
work
or
they
can
do
work
on
the
best
coolest
projects,
the
most
progressive
transportation
projects
in
the
state.
J
And
so
I
I
feel
confident
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
recruit
some
really
great
people.
N
Mr
chair,
the
so
how
many
projects,
how
many
projects,
your
traffic,
engineers
and
and
your
staff
handle,
and
what
is
the
standard,
the
national
standard
for
them,
you
know,
do
they
have
more?
Are
they
handling
more
projects
than
the
national
standard?
Is
the
question
and
will
that
be
useful
to
add
another
person.
J
So
right
now
our
our
project
delivery
group
has
a
manager
and
six
employees,
a
mixture
of
about
half
transportation,
planners
and
half
transportation
engineers
and
about
60
projects
total
for
that
group.
So
and
typically
you'd
want
maybe
one
or
two
big
projects
and
two
or
three
smaller
projects
per
engine
per
project
manager.
J
So
we're
probably
close
to
double
that
so
but
they're
we
hustle,
we
get
a
lot
done.
N
N
You
know
streets
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
and
most
visible
things
that
the
city
is
asking
for,
and
we
have
department
and
leadership
and
this
mayor's
vision
of
on
this,
but
they
are
overworked
and
they
have
they're
handling
a
lot
of
projects
way
more
than
the
nationals
double
the
national
standard,
and
I
this
is
what
I
think
we
want
to
see,
and
I
I
just
leave
it
out
there.
N
E
P
Can
I
ask,
would
these
positions
expedite
the
projects
actually
being
done,
or
is
there
a
bottleneck
elsewhere
in
the
system
that
prevents
hawk
lights
from
being
put
up
and
those
sorts
of
things.
J
Yeah-
and
I
think
that's
a
great
question-
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
project
with
traffic
coming
specifically
the
the
types
of
projects
that
don't
require
a
lot
of
the
the
civil
engineering
design,
and
so
we're
already
having
conversations
with
the
engineering
division
about
how
we
can
streamline
the
design
and
bid
process,
because
you
know
they're
not
that
complicated
as
far
the
complicated
part
and
the
time
consuming
part
is
the
outreach
and
the
the
building
the
consensus
and
out
there
working
with
and
collaborating
with
the
communities
and
the
residents.
J
Many
of
you
you're
nodding
because
you've
been
out
there
on
this,
curb
with
me
right
as
we're
talking
with
frustrated
residents,
and
so
that's
the
right
now.
Everything
we
do
goes
through
engineering
for
the
procurement
and
the
construction,
and
so
that
sometimes
can
take
a
while.
But
because.
E
E
T
T
J
Don't
know
well,
it
depends
on
what
you
want
to
emphasize.
I
guess,
but
the
mayor's
budget
does
recommend
two
ftes
so
and
the
biggest
bottleneck,
I
will
say,
is
on
the
the
engagement
and
that's
what
I
hear
again
and
again
from
from
my
project
managers.
Is
that
the
that's
the
the
most
time
consuming
and.
J
Calming
in
particular,
if
you
want
to
do
quick
action
projects
that
doesn't
even
require
any
engineering
right
so.
M
Like
you
put
the
rubber
speed
bump
down
and
that
could
be
used
as
a
test
case
to
see
if
the
neighborhood
comes
unglued
about
the
rubber
speed
bump,
then
we
don't
want
to
put
in
the
concrete
one
or
whatever
else
we
to
me.
I
think
I
think-
and
that
seems
like
something
that
could
be
fully
in
one
department
and
they
can
just
go.
Do
this
thing
and
then
collect
feedback
and
then
decide
what
the
permanent
solution
can
or
should
be
later
correct?
Am
I
understanding
that
accurately.
H
Okay,
thumbs
up
for
councilmember
fowler's,
two
ft's
on
basically
what
councilmember
mona
was
talking
about
the
fast
track.
H
I
got.
We
have
six
thumbs
up
this
time.
T
And
sorry:
councilmember
fowler,
you
mentioned
a
legislative
intent
to
ask
the
departments
to
coordinate
how
bottlenecks
can
be
addressed.
Yeah.
T
H
And
council
we're
going
to
pause
at
this
moment
for
and
go
to
item
number
nine
advice
and
consent:
salt
lake
city,
justice,
court
judge,
jojo
c
leo
no
leo.
Okay,
welcome,
judge.
B
B
Jojo
can
probably
tell
you
just
how
terribly
thorough
it
was.
Six
months
long,
a
lot
of
community
engagement
in
the
vetting
process
and
an
incredible
candidate
pool
a
really
truly
remarkable
pool
of
candidates
that
eventually
I
had
the
opportunity
to
make
a
selection
of
just
a
few
of
a
large
pool.
So
you
have
before
you
someone
who
I
have
complete.
L
I
H
H
I
appreciate
your
tenacity
and
going
through
that
whole
process,
and
I
I
welcome
you
to
tell
us
a
little
about
yourself
and
your
your
philosophy
and
so
that
the
floor
is
yours.
I
I
I
I
also
want
to
thank
my
parents,
shingalu
and
tayli
liu,
because
I
know
they'll
be
watching
though
they
wanted
to
be
here.
They
couldn't
they
live
in
california.
They
live
and
care
for
my
94
year
old
grandmother
so,
but
they
are
the
hardest
working
people,
the
most
supportive
parents
and
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
them.
I
So
I
just
want
to
share
a
little
bit
about
my
background
and
the
perspective,
I
hope
to
bring
to
the
salt
lake
city
justice
court,
if
confirmed
my
family,
and
I
have
been
proud
salt
lake
city
district
5
residents
for
seven
years.
In
that
time
we
have
been
so
incredibly
lucky
to
become
deeply
stitched
into
our
community.
We
know
well,
every
single
neighbor
on
our
block
are
involved
in
many
volunteer
efforts
and
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
local
salt
lake
county
coalitions
working
to
improve
public
safety
and
community
well-being
from
the
ground
up.
I
I
look
forward
to
continue
to
serve
the
city
that
I
love
so
much.
I've
been
an
attorney
for
21
years.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
gain
several
years
of
experience
as
a
trial
attorney
as
a
litigator,
several
years
of
experience
as
a
clinical
law
professor
and
for
the
last
five
years,
I've
served
in
roles
focused
on
improving
the
administration
of
justice
in
utah's,
juvenile
and
criminal
courts.
I
I
My
hope
is
that
I
can
contribute
and
build
on
these
efforts
through
fair
and
partial,
accurate
decision,
making
an
approach
that
is
evidence-based
and
data
informed.
A
judicial
temperament
that
ensures
every
individual
before
the
court
is
treated
with
dignity,
respect
and
compassion,
and
a
deep
commitment
to
innovation,
access,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
I
welcome
any
questions.
Thank
you.
C
H
E
K
I
have
a
question
mr
chair:
go
ahead:
council
member
hi,
jojo
or
ms
liu,
and
I
I
haven't,
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
you
in
person.
K
I
don't
think,
but
I
know
you
by
reputation
and
I
just
want
to
ask
sometimes
I
think
that,
even
though
the
justice
court
judges
are,
you
know,
they're
municipal
judges
they're,
this
is
the
the
these
are
minor
offenses
that
that
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
still
important
but
but
minor
in
terms
of
their
the
severity
under
the
law
and
sometimes
practicing
in
justice,
court
and
sitting
there.
K
You
wonder
how
a
judge
can
do
that
and
go
through
so
many
cases
that
are
gonna
be
so
routine
and
still
be
able
to
put
like
the
thought
and
the
engagement
into
each
one,
and
I
think
that's
what
was
so
crazy
about
judge
baxter's
abilities
is
that
it
didn't
matter.
If
this
was
like
the
fifth
hundredth
time
he
had
done
the
colloquy.
That
day,
you
felt
like
he
was
doing
it
like.
K
This
was
the
only
you
felt
like
your
client
was
the
only
one
he
was
talking
to
that
day
and
I
think
that's
so
hard
to
do
on
a
court
where,
like
our
justice
court,
where
you
have
you
know
70
or
80
000
cases
a
year,
and
it
is
so
high
volume
to
make
sure
that
you
have
that
give
that
care
to
every
defendant.
That
comes
in.
How
do
you
feel
about?
K
What's
your
energy
level
in
being
able
to
to
do
that,
because
it
is
very
repetitive
and
those
colloquies,
they
need
to
be
the
same
every
time,
but
they
also
need
to
have
someone
that
is,
is
paying
close
attention
to
the
defendant
and-
and
you
know,
non-verbal
cues-
that
maybe
they
aren't
fully
understanding
or
that
that
there
could
be
other
consequences
that
they
don't
know.
How
are
you,
how
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
day
after
day.
I
Yeah
thanks
for
that
question,
councilman
wharton,
I'm
not
going
to
look
at
you.
While
I
answer
this
way.
It's.
I
I
Okay,
okay,
so
yes,
the
juice.
The
justice
courts
are
obviously
lower
courts
of
limited
jurisdiction,
but
these
matters
are
critically
important
to
the
individuals
that
come
before
the
court,
not
just
as
an
emotional
matter.
You
know,
so
one
of
the
projects
that
my
office
has
undertaken
in
the
last
few
years
has
been
the
salt
lake
county,
expungement
navigation
project
and
through
that
we
have
had
we've
helped
about
3
000
individuals
in
utah
work
on
their
expungement.
I
I
You
rack
up
a
certain
number
of
misdemeanors,
just
from
a
numerical
standpoint,
those
you
know:
80
000
cases
that
the
councilman's
referring
to
and
that
essentially
banned
you
from
being
able
to
expunge
your
record
and
seek
stabilization
and
economic
mobility.
So
every
single
one
of
these
cases
are
critically
important,
not
just
to
the
individuals
before
the
court,
but
to
all
of
us.
I
was
going
to
make
a
joke
about
my
kids
and
being
a
working
mom
with
respect
to
my
energy
level,
but
I'll
hear
about
it
later.
So
I
won't.
K
Thank
you,
that's
a
great
question
or
great
answer,
and
I
only
have
one
other
question
for
you
that
are,
I
don't
expect
you
to
map
out
any
like
specific
plans
or
projects.
K
So
don't
feel
like
that's
what
I'm
asking,
but
our
justice
court
has
been
the
site
of
a
lot
of
access
to
justice
initiatives
and
justice
reforms
in
the
state
of
utah
that
have,
you
know,
been
adopted
in
other
courts,
and
you
know
ref
councilmember
fowler
made
reference
to
that
just
a
minute
ago
with
kayak
court,
but
there
there's
a
there's.
Quite
a
list
of
programs.
K
Do
you
feel,
like
you
can
add
to
that
list,
and
do
you
do?
Are
there
opportunities
that
you
see
right
now
of
where
we
could
either
make
the
system
more
efficient
or
more
fair
or
more
accessible
to
to
people
who
are
accused.
I
Yes,
so
well,
first
of
all,
it
means
so
much
of
what
the
justice
corps
is
already
doing.
I
am
so
excited
to
participate
in
one
of
the
endeavors
that
judge
landau
has
led
on
let
out
on
I'm
part
of
that
same
endeavor
with
respect
to
high
utilizers
just
on
the
county
side,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
continue
to
work
on
those
issues
from
the
justice
court.
I
The
reality
is
that,
though
these
decisions
are
critically
important,
it
can
be
a
little
alarming
how
limited
of
information
judges
have
before
them
as
they're
making
these
decisions.
Some
of
this
has
to
do
just
with
technology.
Some
of
this
information
actually
exists
with
jail
screeners
at
our
jail,
so
some
of
the
the
fixes
are,
you
know,
maybe
a
little
boring
but
really
really
important,
so
that
this
information
hits
judicial
workspace
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
even
a
high
volume
misdemeanor
court
can
make
informed
decisions
about
detention,
release
and
sentencing.
I
Another
piece
of
this
is
data
with
respect
to
overall
outcomes
in
our
system,
we're
so
lucky
in
utah
and
in
salt
lake
city
to
have
a
bench
that
we
have
a
great
nomination
confirmation
process.
Folks
come
with
excellent.
You
know
professional
instincts
and
you
know
a
servant's
heart
but
you're
in,
but
your
decision
making
is
only
so
good
if
you
don't
actually
know
what
the
outcomes
have
been
and
the
decisions
that
you
have
made
so
has
behavioral
health
treatment
worked
where
what
are
recidivism
rates?
I
K
Thank
you.
Those
are
the
only
questions
I
have.
I'm
really
sorry.
I
can't
be
there
in
person
to
meet
you,
but
I
think
you've
given
great
answers
and
I'm
I
think,
you'll
be
a
really
great
fit
for
our
justice
court.
So
I
was
excited
to
see
your
name
selected
thanks.
P
How
are
you
congratulations,
thank
you,
so
restorative
justice
and
all
of
these
progressive
initiatives
are
absolutely
worth
embracing
in
historically
disenfranchised
communities
like
ours,
because
we
focus
so
much
on
the
offenders
at
times
and
not
educating
the
public.
P
We
meet
a
lot
of
friction.
We
have
neighbors
who
feel
like
offenders
who
repeatedly
are
in
front
of
judges,
are
given
passes
and,
while
I'm,
okay
with
people,
not
understanding
justice
and
fairness,
I'm
not
okay,
with
weakening
trust
in
institutions
and
ultimately
we're
in
danger
of
doing
that
in
cert,
especially
among
certain
constituencies
in
my
neighborhood.
P
So
without
sacrificing
any
of
those
wonderful
things
about
restorative
justice
that
we
are
implementing
for
the
people
who
appear
before
you
do
you
have
any
advice,
thoughts,
experience
any
insights
to
offer
on
how
we
work,
particularly
in
the
communities
like
ours.
Where
that
we
have
that
fragile
tension.
I
So
some
of
this
goes
back
to
what
I
was
saying
before
around
informational
transparency.
So
it's
very
difficult
to
find
some
basic
information
about
how
our
criminal
justice
system
operates
and
what
outcomes
we're
achieving.
So
I
think
that's
a
big
piece
of
it
and
again
kind
of
a
boring
thing
to
say.
But
you
know,
agencies
have
been
slowly
building
that
data
infrastructure,
and
so
I
think
we
actually
now
have
kind
of
the
scaffolding,
the
informational
scaffolding,
to
better
communicate
with
the
public.
I
So
I
think
that's
a
piece
of
it.
I
think
another
piece
of
it
is
that
historically,
we
really
haven't
had
the
table
where
the
community
is
involved
in
a
hyperlocal
way,
as
you
know,
kind
of
sharing
the
burden
of
public
safety.
So
one
initiative
that
we've
been
working
on
recently
through
the
county
is
seating.
I
Two
local
community
violence
coalitions
one
in
midvale
and
one
in
magna,
and
we
focused
on
that
because
within
our
upd
jurisdictions,
that
is
where
we
see
the
highest
rate
of
increase
in
community
violence,
and
so
we
are
kind
of
leveraging
our
existing
health
coalitions.
So
the
work
of
our
community
educators,
who
bring
people
together
to
talk
about
things
like
obesity,
covid,
and
to
really
embrace
taking
a
public
health
frame
and
a
hyper
local
coalition
approach
to
community
violence
and
at
that
table.
I
Traditional
criminal
justice
stakeholders
are
there
with
folks
who
work
in
programs.
Folks
who
work
in
interventions
and
community
members
and
then
finally
I'll
also
say
that
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
if
you
look
at
any
individual
judicial
officer
or
any
particular
court,
if
you
are
all
knowing
not
that
anyone
is,
it
would
turn
out
to
be
that
decisions
with
respect
to
incarceration
and
punishment
are
both
over-inclusive
and
under-inclusive.
I
So
you
know
the
instinct
of
your
neighbors
and
the
folks
that
you
represent
that.
Maybe
we're
not
always
getting
it
right
is
probably
right.
Some
of
that
time-
and
I
think
it's
just
the
responsibility
of
the
court
and
judges
to
just
be
constantly
improving
the
quality
of
their
decision
making
through
just
leaning
in
to
these
very
difficult,
very
complex,
but
very
necessary
projects,
around
data,
around
outcomes
and
really
questioning
their
own
assumptions
about
whether
or
not
their
instincts
are
right
or
wrong.
N
I
guess
so
it's
so
I
I
know
a
lot
of
people
that
work
with
you
and
a
lot
of
people
that
and
all
of
them
have
an
incredible
appreciation
for
of
your
work
and
and
and
your
vision
for
this,
and
I
I
I
want
to
wish
you
good
luck,
and
I
also
understand
that
many
times
people
interact
with
our
government
through
the
courts,
and
I
hope
that
is
my
wish
that
while
it
is
supposed
to
find
justice
and
sometimes
the
justice
you
know
for
the
it
leaves
an
aftertaste,
I
I
hope
that
we
can.
N
Q
Thank
you,
I'm
excited
for
this.
I
was
looking
at
your
resume
and
all
the
amazing
things
that
you've
been
doing.
So.
Thank
you
for
for
your
patience
with
us
and
the
willingness.
I
think
I
represent
district
four
downtown,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
different
interactions.
I
feel
like
with
the
justice
court
for
many
reasons,
but
the
you
know
main
one
is
mental
health,
homelessness,
drug
addiction,
drug
abuse,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
how
to
look
at
these
issues
that
are
kind
of
new.
Q
In
a
way
you
know
they're
not
as
prevalent
as
your
general
criminal
activity,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
all
cities
all
municipalities
are
experiencing,
that
are
so
strong
mental
health
and
drug
addiction.
The
things
that
have
really
like
our
modern,
modern
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with
and
what
are
your
thoughts
on
it
or
how
do
you
think
you
can
make
the
justice
court
or
can
help
the
city,
the
municipality?
I
I
Your
slcpd
and
the
justice
court
will
feel
every
gap
in
service
that
there
is
because
to
the
extent
to
which
people
are
not
able
to
get
effective
treatment
in
the
community,
they
will
be
involved
with
law
enforcement
and
they
will
hit
our
jail
and
they
will
hit
the
justice
court.
And
so
I
think
that
judges
have
a
unique
yes
in
the
courtroom.
They're
focused
on
making
fair,
accurate
and
partial
decisions
on
individual
cases,
but
they
also
have
a
unique
opportunity
to
sit
on
various
conversations,
because
the
judges
know
they
know
what's
missing.
E
Hi
jojo,
it's
very
good
to
see
you
I
just
want
again.
This
is
more
of
a
comment
and
I
really
am
so
excited
that
we
get
to
have
this
consent
and
advice
and
get
to
confirm
you.
As
our
next
selling
city
justice
court
judge.
I
have
known
jojo
a
little
bit
here
and
there,
but
throughout
the
years
and
obviously
know
a
lot
of
the
work
that
you've
done
and
just
I
to
council,
members
and
and
the
community
listening.
E
I
have
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
every
that
this
appointment
will
just
continue
to
improve
our
justice
court
and
we
have
seen,
as
was
mentioned
so
many
initiatives,
creative
initiatives
that
really
started
with
judge
baxter
and
homeless
court
and
have
just
grown
from
there,
and
I
know
that
that
will
continue
growing
and
the
passion
and
dedication
that
you
have.
E
I
have
experienced
on
a
first-hand
basis
because
I
was
very
frustrated
with
my
job
one
day
and
called
jojo,
and
we
had
a
co-worker
of
mine
and
jojo
and
actually
just
sat
and
really
complained
for
a
long
time
and
jojo
was
very
patient
and
kind
and
gave
us
all
of
the
advice
that
we
needed,
and
I
I
know
that
with
every
defendant
that
comes
in
with
every
client
that
comes
in,
that
that
patience
and
kindness
and
dedication
will
show
through.
So
thank
you,
and
I
am
really
excited
and
look
forward
to
this.
Thank
you.
H
Wonderful,
thank
you.
Judge
we're
going
to
do
in
the
this
portion
of
it
we're
going
to
quickly
go
into
the
the
a
limited
formal
session
and
and
we'll
proceed
at
that
point.
So
we're
going
to
adjourn
for
the
the
first
portion
of
the
work
session
go
to
the
limited
formal
meeting
and
then
do
a
closed
session.
At
that
point,.
P
H
M
P
H
We're
salt
lake
city
we're
now
transitioning
to
a
limited
formal
meeting,
which
means
there's
no
standard
formal
meeting
and
there's
no
general
comments
section
tonight.
The
only
action
is
to
approve
the
appointment
of
the
salt
lake
city,
justice
court
judge
so
we're
in
full
swing
of
the
budgets.
H
If
you
are
still
on
us
with
us,
come
back
june
7th
at
7
p.m.
You
can
make
comments
at
that
time
and
you
can
always
call
us
and
comment
us
as
we've
discussed
before
in
the
previous
things
item
b.
There's
no
public
hearing,
there's
no
potential
actions.
There's
no
comments.
H
H
B
P
D
H
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I,
oh
council,
we
look
at.
We
need
to
motion
to
go
in
this
closed
session
because.
K
K
H
I
have
a
motion
for
council
member
mono,
second
from
council
member
warden
dwight
in
discussion,
senior
discussions,
roll
call,
councilman
wharton,
yes
peter
yes,.
P
H
B
B
B
B
T
T
Poll
was
about
the
additional
traffic
calming
engineers
and
legislative
intent
about
asking
the
departments
to
coordinate
and
identify
where
any
bottlenecks
are.
The
next
item,
which
is,
if
you
lost
your
place
in
the
staff
report,
it's
item
g.
Let's
see
one
g,
ruminant,
two
uh-huh
so
fund
temporary
traffic
calming
measures
as
an
immediate
bridge
until
longer-term
projects
can
be
built.
This
was
an
idea,
I
think,
also
of
council
member
poised
to
consider
sort
of
like
a
stop
gap.
Temporary
stuff.
T
And
I
know
john
larson
and
orion
were
both
planning
to
join
remotely.
I
don't
know
if
they're
on
yet
oh,
I
see
john's
tile.
H
And
that
one
was
also
part
of
the.
I
think
we
had
the
question
about
the
the
engagement
with
the
community.
I'm
not
sure
I
think
I.
T
H
Because
I
think
that's
part
of
that,
the
the
quick
term,
the
temporary
ones,
still
need
to
have
that
neighborhood
engagement.
S
T
S
T
S
That
he
really
is
in
an
awkward
position
to
answer.
I
want
this
rather
than
that
or
that
kind
of
a
thing.
So
I
think
really
you
guys
need
to
decide.
Do
you
want
to
put
in
some
personnel?
Do
you
want
to
put
in
some
temporary
money
for
temporary
things,
and
then
you
want
to
put
in
the
the
full
2
million
for
or.
S
No
one
really
can
answer
because
they
their
job,
is
to
support
the
mayor's
budget.
So
it's
really.
What
do
you
want?
Do
you
want
and
then
they'll
may
come
back
to
you
and
say
through
the
mayor's
office
they
may
say
we'd
like
an
engagement
person
instead
of
that
engineer,
but
it
helps
us
to
know
what
you
guys
want
instead
of
what
they
want,
because
they
kind
of
can't
say
it's
just
weird.
T
N
And
I
talked
to
many
people
and
I
don't
want
to
put
him
on
the
spot,
but
and-
and
we
I
had
some
conversations
with
individual
council
members
about
this
and
they
one
the
administration
have
stride
the
the
screwing
the
into
the
payment,
the
the
whatever
you
call
those
speed
bumps.
N
Thank
god
thank
you
and-
and
there
are
about
seven
thousand
dollars
each
and
they
have
some
that
are
good
with
fire
trucks
and
they
are
not
as
ideal
as
the
concrete
ones
that
are
not
as
effective,
but
they
are
doing
something.
And
while
all
of
these
gigantic
projects,
the
administration
is
working
on
that
will
take
years
to
be,
you
know
to
to
happen.
N
So
that
is
my
point
on
many
of
the
council
members
here
and
I
I
cannot
tell
you
enough
how
important
this
is
to
the
community
so
putting
even
some
money
into
this
for
something
to
be
seen
quick.
So
people
can
see
in
the
street
something
that
is
slowing
down
traffic,
and
I
don't
know
if
chris
wardens
feels
very
good
about
those
cones
glued
into
the
corner
of
his
neighborhood
that
he
advocated
for
very
much.
But
I
that
type
of
wow,
that
type
is,
I
think
that
stuff
is
very
needed.
N
K
Did
not
advocate
for
glued
on
cons
specifically,
and
I
am
sad
to
report
that
there
are
only
two
left
so
the
glued
on
cons.
I
think
we
learned
an
important
lesson.
I
don't
regret
it,
but
they're
not
as
permanent
as
you
might
think.
H
T
P
M
H
So
does
there
a
straw
poll
on
how
much
we
want
to
put
aside
for
these
temporaries
hundreds.
P
When
we
say
temporary,
are
they
temporary
in
the
sense
like
these?
If
we
got
these
temporary
speed
mumps,
are
they
something
that
we
would
be
able
to
use
in
one
location
before
we
have
the
permanent
and
then
move
them
to
another
location,
they're
like
they're
things
that
we
can
use
repeatedly,
even
though
their
function
in
one
location
would
be.
P
S
J
Yeah,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes
yeah,
I
think
one
of
there
are
a
lot
of
options
and
I
I
look
forward
to
exploring
them
further.
One
thing
that
I'm
really
interested
in
that
we've
done
here
and
that
portland
has
actually
been
doing
a
lot
of
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
Are
those
big
kind
of
concrete
barrels
sort
of?
J
We
have
them
on
second
west
that
went
in
as
part
of
the
protected
bike
lane
there
and
those
have
actually
held
up
surprisingly
well,
you
can
flip
them
upside
down
and
paint
the
top
or
you
can
have
them
open
and
you
can
fill
them.
You
know
people
could
adopt
them
as
a
like
a
flower
bed,
you
can
paint
the
outsides,
so
they
can
be
kind
of
customized
by
neighborhood
and
those
are
pretty
affordable
and
there
are
quite
a
few
things
we
can
do
with
those.
J
So
that's
just
one
example
of
the
sorts
of
things
that
we're
looking
at
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
great
products
out
there
that
can
be
bolted
onto
the
pavement,
how
much
of
those
quite
as
long
but
are
highly
affordable.
J
The
the
concrete
ones
a
couple
years
ago,
they
were
only
about
1500
each.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
the
price
on
anything
these
days.
N
Roads,
I
I
I
mean
I
to
the
point
of
you
know:
amy
is
making
next
to
me
and
victoria.
I
I
think
you
know.
Maybe
this
is
something
or
nothing
right,
and
I
take
a
hundred
thousand
for
this.
N
They're
completely
different,
though
the
three
the
steel
plates
are:
not,
they
don't
put
them
in
residential
neighborhoods.
They
put
them
on
islam,.
H
Going
to
end
up
probably
having
to
debate
a
bunch
of
these
things
already
so
is
there
there's
a
straw
poll
on
the
table
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
some
temporary
street
calming
devices,
so
is
that
the
straw
poll.
M
H
H
I
feel
like
I'm
a
auctioneer
here.
T
T
Chris
is
a
yes
anna,
darren,
okay,
yeses,
okay,
the
next
is
the
is
expressing
intent.
Actually,
since
I
wrote
since
we
wrote
the
staff
report,
I
believe
you
actually
can
allocate
the
money
that
you
allocated
two
weeks
ago
in
budget
amendment,
seven
expressing
the
intent
to
allocate
that
money
from
that
cip,
holding
account
that
you
put
aside
in
budget
amendment
7
allocating
2
million
of
that
to
the
livable
streets
program,
which
is
the
sort
of
neighborhood
specific
traffic
calming
program.
T
We
clarified
with
transportation
and
if,
if
john
has
more
information
he
can
share,
he
can
pop
back
on,
but
that
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
there
is
funding
for
complete
streets
which
sometimes
includes
traffic
calming
elements,
but
not
necessarily
funding
for
the
kinds
of
traffic
calming
stuff
that
was
talked
about
in
the
livable
streets
initiative.
Unless
the
council
allocates
that
2
million
from
the
cip
holding
account.
S
We
got,
I
guess,
mixed
up,
we
that
happens
to
us,
but
we
thought
there
was
two
million
dollars
in
the
mayor's
budget
already
and
then
you
guys
set
aside
the
potential
for
two
million
in
when
you
did
the
10
million
two
of
that
was
theoretically
for
traffic
calming.
So
we
thought
there
would
be
four,
but
there's
really
two
so
and.
T
I
think
that
maybe
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
venn
diagram
in
the
complete
streets
allocation.
I
think
there's
three
million
allocated
to
complete
streets
there's
in
that
3
million.
There
will
be
some
traffic
calming
elements
as
part
of
those
projects.
I
don't
know
if
john's
popped
back
on,
so
maybe
he
has
more
information.
L
T
So
if
the
council
wanted
to,
I
mean
really
that
10
million
is
a
holding
account
that
doesn't
have
any
strings
necessarily
other
than
I
think
the
administration's
original
proposal
was
to
spend
eight
on
affordable
housing
and
two
on
traffic
calming
based
on
your
guys
suggestion,
and
so,
if
you
wanted
to
spend
more
on
traffic
calming
from
that
account,
you
have
that
flexibility.
M
P
T
Sorry
I
just
gotta
offset
the
revenue
all
right
five
thumbs
up.
I
got
four
thumbs
up.
Jennifer,
sorry,
dan.
T
Hey
all
right,
the
next
item,
one
two,
three
four
four.
T
Abstain-
okay,
the
next
we
may
need
to
skip
this
item
because
I
think
we're
still
working
on
information
from
the
administration.
It's
for
enhanced
cleaning
along
north
temple.
We
need
to
clarify
with
the
administration
the
extent
to
which
the
clean
team
actually
provides
this
service
already,
and
it
might
just
need
kind
of
constituent
requests.
So
if
it's
okay
with
you
guys
we'll
skip
it
and
keep
it
on
the
list
for
the
next
time.
T
The
next
item
relates
to
some
discussions.
We've
been
having
about
enhancing
building
security,
both
for
council
meeting,
which
might
be
needed
to
be
added
to
the
council
office
budget
specifically
and
for
the
building
in
general
pre-covered.
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
how
to
improve
security
at
the
building
for
all
city
employees
at
the
building
and
obviously
without
employees
in
the
building.
H
I
have
six.
H
T
Great
next
I
forget,
if
it
was
during
the
can
briefing
or
during
just
other
budget
discussions,
the
idea
was
raised
that
the
fix
the
brics
program,
which
has
a
matching
requirement,
could
accidentally
be
leaving
out
people
who
aren't
able
to
come
up
with
that
matching
requirement.
So
staff
reached
out
to
the
administration
to
figure
out
what
is
the
match
required?
How
many
homes
do
you
anticipate
doing
to
see
if
the
council
wanted
to
establish
some
sort
of
grant,
that
would
be
an
income
qualified
grant?
What
would
the
dollar
figure
look
like?
T
Each
match
is
seven
thousand
dollars
and
the
department
estimates
that
in
the
coming
year
they
will
hope
to
serve
53
households.
So
if
you
just
if
you
did
the
math,
if
you
wanted
to
provide
a
match
for
every
one
of
those
households,
it
would
be
371
000..
T
That
that's
what
they
anticipate
doing
this
next
year.
I
think
that
sometimes
goals
aren't
you
know.
Sometimes
things
takes
like
take
longer
than
intended,
so
it's
possible
that
they
don't
necessarily
meet
that
because.
H
T
It's
it's
in.
Can
it
used
to
be
in
emergency
management,
and
it's
now
administered
by
can
which
we're
thinking
actually
kind
of
helps
with
the
income
qualifying
aspect,
because
they
already
know
how
to
do
that
for
some
of
their
other
programs.
T
I
think
that
what
at
least
what
we
had
discussed
with
it
and
obviously
can
be
whatever
you
guys
want.
So
I
should
say
that
we
were
thinking
it
would
be
an
income
qualified
grant.
So
if
someone
was
in
a
home
that
needed
emergency
or
that
needed
earthquake
upgrades
that
could
not
afford
the
match
that
that
would
be
the
program
for
them.
B
P
T
P
J
N
T
T
Next
is
clarifying
event
funding
for
the
open
streets
initiative
and
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
mix-up
confusion
about
where
funding
ended
up,
in
which
part
of
the
budget
about
long-term
planning
for
the
open
streets
concept
and
the
immediate
need
for
this
current
calendar
years
event,
and
so
there's
a
300
000
line
item
in
rda
for
long-term
planning
on
open
streets.
There
is
a
need
for
at
least
350
000
for
the
current
calendar
year
to
do
the
current
calendar
year's
open
streets.
T
The
downtown
alliance,
we
understand,
is
fronting
the
money
to
have
the
event
going
on
right
now,
because,
obviously
this
money
wouldn't
be
available
until
july
1
and
the
event
is
going
from
memorial
to
labor
day.
So
what
they're
hoping
is
that
the
council
will
find
a
way
to
allocate
350
000
to
them.
The
administration
is
thinking
that
you
could
take
a
150
000
from
the
rda,
add
150
000
from
fund
balance
to
make
300
000
to
send
to
the
downtown
alliance
and
then
have
them
fundraise
the
remaining
50..
T
The
memo
that
they
sent
us
that
they
sent
the
city
earlier
this
year
had
a
cost
breakdown.
That
was
helpful
because
it
showed
sort
of
exactly
what
you
get
for
the
350
000,
which
is
friday
and
saturday
nights,
and
so,
if
you
want
thursday,
friday
and
saturday
nights,
it's
actually
450
000..
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
didn't
read
all
the
way
through
to
the
end
of
that
memo,
that's
where
that's,
where
that
information
is,
and
so
the
council
really
you
could
allocate
anything.
T
You
could
allocate
nothing.
It's
just
up
to
you.
H
K
I
think
I
saw
this
in
in
an
email
jen,
but
when
did
it
go
from
300
to
350.
S
K
N
So
I
saw
the
memo
from
the
downtown
alliance
about
thursday,
friday
saturday,
maybe
sunday-
I
didn't
know
saturday
so
thursday,
friday.
N
T
If
you
look
at
page
three
of
the
memo-
and
I
for
we
forwarded
it
to
you
guys
today,
I'm
wondering
if
I
can
bring
it
up.
T
Right
and
I
think
that
yeah
so
if
the
the
key
is
to
look
at
the
exhibit,
because
that's
what
breaks
down
the
cost
so
option,
one
is
15
weekends,
thursday,
friday
saturday.
That
cost
is
422
000.
option.
Two
is
15
weekends,
just
fridays
and
saturdays,
and
that's
340,
340
800,
so
350.
option:
three
is
15
weekends
saturday's!
Only
that's
250,
260
000.
Q
Q
Q
S
Q
T
So
they
and
maybe
john-
can
jump
on
and
speak
to
this.
I
think,
there's
the
there's
the
way
that
open
streets
is
conceived
right
now,
which
is
essentially
like
a
special
event,
and
there
are
options
going
into
the
future
that
could
make
it
either
semi-permanent
or
permanent,
and
I
think
they're
open
to
all
different
kinds
of
options
and
are
are
in
the
very
beginning
phases
of
that,
and
so
the
planning
money
would
help
them
kind
of
figure
out
what
their.
H
Because
some
of
the
some
of
the
ideas
was
that
it'd
be
open
to
vehicles
during
the
morning
hours
or
during
the
day
right
and
then
close
in
the
evenings
to
walkers
only
and
then
some
different
options
there
between
and
that
would
be
less
expensive
than
doing
it
permanently,
where
it's
only
for
walkers.
So
that
would
be
kind
of
like
a
let's
give
them
some
funding
to
study
that
the
total
cost
to
go
permanent.
And
you
know
the
pros
and
cons
of
doing
that
and
pros
and
cons
of
doing
doing
it.
Just
in
the
evenings.
T
J
Hi,
so
I've
economic
development
has
actually
been
the
lead
of
the
city,
but
we've
worked
very
closely
in
supporting
them
on
this
and
then
jessica.
J
Downtown
alliance
has
been
just
phenomenal
at
running
this
program
and
in
talking
with
them,
the
biggest
challenge
is
by
having
the
the
temporary
setup
they're
spending
a
lot
of
money,
setting
up
the
barricades
between
the
travel
lane
and
the
tracks,
and
then
we
have
we
pull
barricades
across
to
close
the
street
as
well,
but
the
biggest
thing
is
the
barricades
between
traveling
the
tracks,
and
that
was
something
that
uta
required.
J
They
don't
want
people
wandering
in
front
of
the
trains,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
explore.
J
You
know
what
are
the
options
of
like
you
were
saying,
chair,
dugan
about
the
you
know:
do
you
leave
it
open
to
cars
in
the
morning,
so
you
can
have
deliveries
and
things
or
do
you
just
permanently
close
it
and
make
it
a
permanent
pedestrian,
promenade
and
then
kind
of
get
some
rough
cost
estimates
of
what
those
options
would
be.
J
You
know
so
for
permanent
barriers
to
protect
people
from
the
trains
and
then
some
more
permanent
infrastructure
to
make
it
quicker
and
more
attractive
to
be
able
to
close
the
blocks
off
on
the
the
times
when
it
is
closed
so
that
analysis
hasn't
been
done
yet.
K
Mr
chair,
I
like
to
propose
a
straw
poll:
yes,
that
we
go
with
option
two
and
under
that
that
we
take
150
from
what
was
the
allocator
in
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
from
rda
that
we
do
150.
K
H
From
fan
balance
and
then
the
remaining
from
downtown
alliance.
H
T
T
Great
sorry,
I
have
to
do
one
other
thing.
E
H
E
Nobody,
but
there
is
some
a
group
that
has
volunteered
a
couple
of
times,
but
they
are
like
basically
just
spending
their
own
money
and
came
to
us
and
asked
if
there
was
any
support
that
we
could
give
them.
But
then
they
would
continue
kind
of
helping
and
organizing
it.
So
it's
just
and
and
heart
would
be
a
part
of
organizing
that
as
well.
B
To
mention
that
I
think
it
was
with
cdbg
funding
recently
that
the
council
opted
not
to
fund
food
for
our
service
providers,
that
is
still
a
hole
in
their
services,
and
I
think
it
was
for
just
under
30
000.
Don't
quote
me
on
the
number
andrew?
If
he's
on,
he
can
tell
us,
but
no.
P
B
I
think
that
that's
not
their
understanding,
because
just
this
week
we
had
a
meeting
about
that
gap.
But
can
I
ask
if
andrew
johnston's
on
perhaps
he
could
just
send
us
a
message,
but
maybe
we
need
to
align
on
that
and.
M
T
There
we
may
need
to
have
a
follow-up
communication
with
those
service
providers
just
to
make
sure
they
might
have
assumed
that
one
conversation
is
where
it
ended
and
so
want
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
correctly.
So,
maybe,
if
ben
could
reach
out
to
andrew,
that
would
be
great
and
so
yeah.
Q
T
Okay,
so
mr
chair,
we're
done
with
the
well
at
least
we're
done
with
the
ads
that
we
had
listed.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
a
imaginary
item,
any
more
items.
What
comes
after
it.
H
T
So
the
next
section
is
the
next
session
is
items
to
decrease
the
budget.
Sorry
cindy
did
you
have
something.
S
We
were
talking
about
the
possibility
of
a
placeholder
earlier
and
it
might
not
have
gotten
in.
We
don't
know
how
things
are
going
to
work
out
with
the
police
department
in
terms
of
the
actually
getting
all
the
coverage
we
need
for
council
meetings.
So
we'll
have
some
more
conversations
in
the
next
couple
of
days
to
see,
but
we
might
need
a
little
more
funding
in
our
budget
because
it
is
an
overtime
situation
and
we
it's.
It
is
totally
different
than
it
used
to
be.
T
And-
and
thank
you
I
I
think
I
inadvertently
lumped
that
in
with
the
building
security
and
they
are
different.
So
if
the
council
could
discuss
that,
that
would
straw
pull
that,
I
don't
know
what
a
placeholder
amount
would
be.
S
T
So
maybe
I'll
leave
that
kind
of
starred
as
we
keep
talking
with
the
police
department.
Unless
the
council
wants
to
actually
like
park
some
money
there
right
now
either
way.
T
S
T
Okay,
so
moving
to
the
next
section,
I'm
actually
gonna
skip
down
to
e,
because
sometimes
it's
nice
to
like
feel
like
you
know,
you
found
a
cut
and
I
think
that
this
one
is
is
kind
of
an
easy
one.
It's
because
it
hr
worked
with
the
administration
to
put
a
placeholder
in
each
department,
where
an
independent
consultant
identified
that
there
were
employees
that
lagged
market
pay.
T
It's
a
placeholder
and
hr
hasn't
had
the
time
yet
to
work
with
each
department
director
and
it's
just
based
on
job
titles,
there's
likely
probably
two
months
three
months
at
least
of
work
that
they'll
need
to
do
to
figure
out.
You
know
each
employee
by
employee
and
so
staff
just
figured
that
you
could
recapture
about
three
months
of
funding
from
each
of
those
line
items
with
relatively
little
pain
in
terms
of
hr's
progress
on
bringing
employees
up
to
market
pay.
T
I
think
that
there
was
a
thought
that
you
could
make
that
pay
retroactive
to
july
1,
if
you
left
it
whole
in
the
budget.
So
that
is
definitely
a
trade-off,
but
it's
out
there
as
an
option,
and
so
we've
listed
it
out.
You
know
each
department
has
a
slightly
different
line
item
you
know
like
in
our
in
the
attorney's
office.
It's
66
000
for
that
three
months,
but
and-
and
I
just
want
to
be
transparent-
it
is
one-time
money,
so
it
will
sort
of
increase
your
hole
for
next
year.
H
Thumbs
up
down,
we
have
six
thumbs
up:
okay,
thumbs
up;
okay,
sorry,
seven
thumbs
up,
it's
just.
T
Maybe,
while
I'm
going
through
this,
you
guys
can
talk
about
using
fund
balance
in
general
to
balance
the
budget
instead
of
the
proposed
tax
increase,
as
I
think
we've
talked
about
before
this
would
mean
a
tax
increase
in
future
years
likely
next
year,
and
we
just
raised
it
because
technically
there
is
14,
ish,
there's
actually
11
million.
If
you
don't
count
funding
our
future
dollars
above
the
13
threshold.
H
H
Separate
now
that
they
draw
the
negative
that
this
is
just
one-time
funding,
yes
and
we're
still
needing
that
fund
balance
to
provide
funding
for
one
time
for
in
the
future.
Also,
so
we
might
be
drawing
down
this
fund
balance
as
the
years
go
on
and
our
sales
tax
numbers
will
be
able
to
possibly
if
they
are
go
up.
That
could
also
allow
that
fund
balance
to
stay
where
it
is.
H
H
P
I
am
interested
in
providing
as
much
predictability
for
our
constituents
in
the
season
coming
up.
Assuming
we
are
about
to
enter
into
a
recession,
I
would
rather,
I
would
rather
do
a
property
tax
adjustment
not
have
to
revisit
it
in
a
short
period
of
time
and
for
us
to
stay
as
liquid
as
possible
to
be
able
to
confront
whatever
emergencies
come
up,
so
that
we
do
not
have
to
go
back
to
them.
P
I
don't
to,
I
don't
want
to
use
fund
balance
and
if
we
need
to
do
a
property
tax
increase,
I'd
rather
do
one
that
is
significant
to
meet
all
of
our
needs
and
not
nickel
and
dime
ourselves
out
of
a
three-year
window
of
what
we're
going
to
need.
Assuming
that
a
recession
is
coming
and
our
constituents
need
three
to
five
years
of
predictability
out
of
us
to.
M
The
I
think,
that's
a
valid
point.
H
On
the
government
immunity,
I
can't
remember
what
the
cost
of
that
was.
T
H
But
what
was
the
annual
cost
to
that
property
tax
for
four
million?
It
was.
T
H
Ten
dollars
a
million
yeah,
so
so
you
on
the
government
community.
If
you
took
two
off
from
balance
that
would
drop
that
one
and
my
my
thought
process
here
is
that
we
would
we
would
jumpstart
the
immunity
2
million,
and
then
we
have
the
property
tax
for
2
million
on
top
of
that
every
year.
At
that
point
and.
T
N
I,
the
yeah,
you
know-
and
you
know
you
know,
that
money
that
is
save
aside
for
judgments.
Let's
say
it's
bigger,
then
we
need
to
go
find
the
money.
I
think
that's
I
mean
I'm
rephrasing,
I'm
trying
to
internalize
what
you
just
said,
but
if
this
money
is
bigger
than
that
money
we're
seeing
aside,
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
same
bucket
that
you
are
suggesting
so
on
that
bucket
is
going
to
get
significantly
smaller.
H
E
I
have
a
question
going
back
to
something
you
mentioned
earlier:
jen
that
we
can
only
we
can
only
the
rate
can
only
go
so
far
up,
yeah
right,
it's
not
like
we
can
make
it
so
that
the
rate
it
we're
like
this
gonna
have
a
25
tax
increase,
because
then
it
would
make
it
so
that
that
goes
above
the
allowed
rate
right.
So
my
my
thought
and
proposal
is
we.
E
Let
me
rephrase
all
this
sorry,
my
brain,
my
straw
poll
would
be
just
a
little
bit
more
vague
in
that
I
would
propose
a
straw
poll
that
says
anyone
who
agrees
that
we
should
make
governmental
immunity,
a
property
tax
line
item
and
then
wait
to
come
back
to
see
what
that
rate
would
be
of
how
much
we
put
in
there
right,
because
it
may,
as
you
mentioned,
it
may
come
back
at
like
3
million
and
then
we're
kind
of
splitting
the
baby,
because
we
can
only
go
so
far
on
that
rate.
T
Very
rambly,
yes,
you
can
only
so
state
law
caps
it
at
.001,
and
so
or
is
it
three
zeros?
Sorry
it's
late,
and
so
it's
it's.
Ultimately
it's
we're
limited
by
whatever
our
total
valuation
is
in
the
city.
I
can't
imagine
that
our
total
valuation,
the
city,
is
decreasing.
Even
if
there's
an
economic
downturn,
the
building
kind
of
offsets
that,
but
it's
a
concern-
and
so
we
won't
know
until
june,
8th.
M
F
M
E
M
And
yes,
vote
means
yes,
we
do
want
to
yes.
T
That's
great,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
and
we'll
our
staff
and
finance
are
watching
that
total
evaluation
closely
and
we'll
know
more.
I
mean,
hopefully,
they'll
be
early
with
their
numbers
this
year
they
never
are,
but
then.
Q
To
to
this
point
to
this
one,
so
this
you,
if
we
pass
it
and
then
we
start
collecting
and
then
every
year
we
collect
about
the
same
amount
of
money
and
let's
say
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
a
lot
of
the
liabilities
and
stuff.
What
happens
to
that
money?
That's
just
sit
there
and
it
grows
like
every
year.
Like
let's
say
we
you
use
syrup.
So
in
two
years,
we'll
have
eight
million
dollars
sitting
in
a
bank
account.
Q
T
Very
least
you'll
spend
like
one
and
a
half
one,
and
you
know
an
eighth
and
then
it
that
grows
every
year,
because
staff
is
a
little
more
expensive
every
year.
So
you
know
say
you
use
1.7
to
2
million
every
year.
Whatever's
left
does
grow.
If
you
don't
use
it.
Okay
and
the
council
could
at
that
point
evaluate
whether
it
makes
sense
to
lower
that
rate,
so
that
you're
not
collecting
as
much
okay.
Q
T
So,
okay,
so
thanks
so
going
back
to
the
top
of
the
list.
Sorry
I
jumped
around.
One
idea
was
to
use
some
or
all
of
that
10
million
holding
account
from
fund
balance
that
was
allocated
in
budget
amendment
7.
in
this
is
item
b,
sorry
jumping
around
item
b.
So
I
think
this
is
a
little
out
of
date
because
you
guys
have
already
discussed
using
some
of
it
for
traffic
calming
and
some
of
it
for
building
security,
but
that
is
available
as
essentially
another
fun
balance.
P
T
Okay,
unless
anyone
has
okay.
K
T
I
think
that
that
was
the
administration's
proposal.
The
council
did
not
end
up
saying
one
way
or
the
other,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
allocated
to
housing.
Yet,
although
the
council
certainly
could
right,
yeah.
K
T
The
next
item
item
c,
one
council
member,
asked
about
how
much
you
would
save
if
you
reduce
the
cip
budget
this
year,
actually
is
the
healthiest
cip
budget,
I've
seen
in
my
time
at
the
city
at
nine
percent
and
that
actually
meets
what
a
consultant
many
moons
ago
recommended
as
a
good
level
of
investment
in
your
capital
assets.
But
in
years
past
seven
percent
has
kind
of
been
our
norm.
So
if
you
reduced
cip
from
nine
percent
to
eight
percent,
that
would
free
up
three
point:
two
three:
two:
nine
six
million.
T
If
you
reduced
it
from
nine
percent
to
seven
percent,
it
would
free
up
six
point:
seven
million.
I
guess
that's
another
reason
why
we
attached
the
list
of
cip
projects
so
that,
because
that
would
be
the
next
hard
conversation
is
cutting
three
point:
three
million
dollars
of
cip
projects
or
six
point:
seven
million
dollars
of
cip
projects.
H
N
T
T
Some
council
members
expressed
interest
in
reviewing
the
list
of
proposed
projects
in
the
sustainability
department
to
weigh
them
in
the
context
of
the
discussions
you've
been
having,
I
believe,
sam
sent,
you
guys
an
email.
I
apologize
I
intended
to
attach
it
to
the
staff
report
in
your
packets,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
actually
made
it
there
so
that
email
went
to
you
guys
at
801
this
morning
I
will
bump
it
back
up.
T
All
right-
and
I
may.
T
Let's
see
sam
owen
is
joining
online,
he's
the
one
who
knows
a
lot
more
about
each
of
these
things
than
I
do
so.
I
feel
ill-equipped
to
actually
answer
questions,
but
maybe
if
you
just
want
to
look
these
over-
and
let
us
know
if
there's
anything
you're
interested
in
knowing
more
about
oh
debbie's
here
and
can
answer
questions,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
her
too.
T
T
B
Mr
chair
councilman,
I
can
jump
in
if
you
want
just
on
my
color
coding,
because
it's
kind
of
abstract,
the
blue,
the
light
blue,
where
the
cell
is
highlighted
all
the
way
in
light
blue,
that's
a
project
that
has
been
approved
in
the
past,
where
the
line
item
is
highlighted
and
and
turquoise
specifically.
B
This
is
like
hold
on
where
the
turquoise
is
highlighted.
That's
a
planning
document,
that's
subject
to
additional
council
oversight,
either
before
or
after
appropriation
or
both,
and
where
you
see
the
appropriation
highlighted
in
red,
the
entire
cell
highlighted
in
red
there's
a
portion
under
all
of
that
that
might
be
subject
to
contract.
B
So
if
that
was
a
line
item,
you
were
interested
in
cutting
the
department
might
have
information
about
whether
or
not
some
portion
of
that
is
caught
up
in
a
contract
and
finally,
the
yellow
and
the
green
that
you
see
in
front
of
you.
The
yellow
is
a
special
appropriation
to
an
interlocal
agency,
to
which
I
I
think
the
funds
have
effectively
been
committed
but
subject
to
council
appropriation
and
the
green
is
the
same
human
resources
line
item
that
jennifer
talked
about
earlier.
The
salary
adjustments
that
were
recommended
for
all
of
the
city
departments.
T
So
sam,
would
it
be
correct
to
folk,
or
should
I
scroll
down
to
where
I
am
now
and
focus
on
these
that
aren't
highlighted
sorry,
I
should
have
coordinated
with
you
before.
B
No
it's
my
yeah
it's
my
shortcoming.
Both
lists
are
good,
so
maybe
to
start
at
the
top
might
be
your
option
if
council
members
are
interested
in
reviewing
those
projects
at
the
top
or
not.
H
B
Yeah,
mr
chair,
they
do
yeah,
so
some
of
them
tie
into
air
quality,
some
of
them
tie
into
well.
I
yeah
I
mean
really
again
at
your
discretion
or
at
your
liking,
some
of
them
tie
into
air
quality
and
some
of
them
tie
into
other
kind
of
objectives
that
might
be
construed
as
city-wide.
H
M
H
That
was
just
one
of
my
yeah.
One
of
my
questions
about
you
know
is
it:
when
do
we
start
charging
for
eb
chargers,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that's,
I
think
that
could
be
a
longer
term
discussion
than
just
us
doing
that
I
mean.
M
I
think,
reading
between
the
lines
like
20
years
down
the
road,
when
most
people
have
ev
chargers,
should
we
still
be
subsidizing
the
energy
or
should
we
be
charging
at
that
point
right
and
at
what
point
do
we
get
to
the
point
where
we're
no
longer
needing
to
put
public
funds
into
getting
people
to
get
evs,
because
people
already
want
them?
Is
that
sort
of
the
thought.
S
T
A
contingent
appropriation
for
pending
further
conversations
or
is
that
sorry,
I'm
not
following.
H
S
M
M
N
N
And
I
know
that
there
is
a
few
non-profits
working
on
on
on
equity
and
food,
and
I
I
I
don't
disagree
that
this
is
a
very
important
task
on
the
west
side,
not
only
on
the
west
side
but,
very
importantly,
on
the
west
side.
But
I
I
have
some
very
question
many
questions
on
this.
P
I
I
feel
like
I
don't
want
to
undercut.
I
am
not
undercutting,
but
I
feel
like
it
would
help
me
understand
better
too,
like
I
understand
when
we
temper
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
internally
and
how
we
handle
our
city
business
through
the
sustainability
lens
as
prescribed
by
the
department.
But
when
it
comes
to
the
externally
facing
things
I
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
have
some
policy
clarity
as
to
what
we
expect
from
our
sustainability
department.
S
So
far,
two
things
that
you
would
want
to
discuss
if,
if
the
whole
group
agrees,
that
one
is
the
ev
and
the
other
is
just
the
concept
of
implementer
or
convener,
basically
on
facilitator,
okay
and
then
one
other
one
that
we
sam
has
been
working
with.
Debbie
on
is
the
the
things
that
are
longer
term
implementation
plans
that
involve
both
policy
and
budget.
S
B
E
Can
you
tell
me
what
the
community
food
assessment
is
and
in
this
table
it
says
finish:
the
community
informed
update
of
community
food
assessment?
Yes,.
B
An
analytical
survey-
and
we
did
a
community
food
assessment
like
10
years
ago
or
so,
and
there
were
a
number
of
recommendations
that
came
out
of
that.
B
The
square
question
was
one
of
them
and
we
we
kind
of
need
a
refresh,
and
so
what
it
does
is
it
gathers
data
food
insecurity
data,
but
then
also
what
we
did
not
do
last
time
10
years
ago,
was
get
that
community
side
of
the
input
on
you
know
what
is
what
does
food
insecurity
actually
look
like,
and
so
that's
so
we're
in
the
middle
of
that
survey.
B
We're
also
working
with
the
resident
food
equity
advisors
to
provide
their
input
and
and
work
with
their
neighbors
and
and
provide
input
on
on
that
side
of
the
assessment.
So
we're
in
the
middle
of
that
survey,
we'll
be
gathering
the
data
and
then
hopefully
have
some
recommendations
both
from
the
resident
food
equity
advisors
from
the
community
side,
as
well
as
just
sort
of
the
you
know
the
the
benchmarking.
What
are
the
best
practices?
B
What
are
other
cities
doing
with
food
insecurity,
and
so
too,
I
think
cindy's,
point
and
council
member
peter
weschler's
point:
when
do
you
think
that
you'd
have
something
from
that
survey
that
could
come
back
and
have
a
conversation
with
the
council?
So
we
can
talk
policy
stuff,
so
we're
prepared
for
next
year's
budget
right
right,
so
that
food
survey
is
probably
the
resident
food
equity
advisor
is
looking
at
the
questions
right
now.
I
think
it'll
go
out
this
summer
and
but
then
we'll
have
that
process
of
the
resident
food
equity
advisors.
B
Looking
at
survey
results
looking
at
the
data
and
making
recommendations,
so
I
would
say
maybe
this
fall
and
if
I
could
the
reason
that
we
suggested
in
response
to
some
questions,
you
asked
that
we
suggested
that
you
look
program
by
program
is
that
sustainability
is
now
in
the
position
of
needing
general
fund
funding.
So
you
then
need
to
start
weighing
the
funding
for
these
programs
against
funding
for
other
programs
and
and
and
some
of
the
programs
were
not
that
familiar
to
us
because
they
were
funded
with
the
outside
money.
B
Mr
chair,
I
have
a
question
good.
Is
there
any
way
that
so
on
this
chart
with
the
three
food
equity
programs?
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
get
the
information
that
we
need
to
finish
or
some
of
the
information?
We
need
to
finish
it
by
funding
the
the
food
advisor
and
the
micro
grant
program,
because
isn't
there
data
that
we
can
collect
from
those
two
things
that
could
offset
some
of
the
cost
of
125
000?
B
Debbie's,
looking
at
the
charts
and
also
the
micro
grant
program,
we
don't
know
yet
if
debbie,
if
anyone
has
talked
to
you
about
the
need
to
have
the
open
and
public
meetings
law
involved
in
the
council.
Yes,
I
saw
that
okay,
yes
and
so
yeah.
That
is
an
idea
that
came
out
of
the
last
resident
food
equity
advisor.
So
it's
one
that
we,
you
know
we
haven't
put
the
whole
formula
together
of
how
we
execute
that.
B
B
As
far
as
I,
I
think
you
were
asking
about,
maybe
some
duplication
or
crossover
between
all
of
those
things
and
some
efficiencies
the
micro
grant
is,
is,
is
kind
of
a
separate
deal.
It
is.
It
is
a
recommendation
that
came
out
of
the
the
last
food
advisors.
It's
a
way
of
putting
you
know,
resources
in
the
hands
of
people
to
to
manage.
You
know
food
access
on
their
own.
B
The
you
know
it's
all
really
tied
together.
The
resident
food
equity
advisors
program
is
a
program
that
they
will
be
looking
at
the
food
assessment
working
with
our
consultant
and
then
the
consultant
will
actually
be
doing
the
data
gathering
and
and
packaging
and
coming
up
with
recommendations
right
but
like
this
is,
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds,
but
I
would
think
you've
got
all
these
applications
coming
in
for
a
micro
food
grant
program.
B
Can't
you
glean
a
lot
of
data
from
that,
because
they're
going
to
be
telling
you
why
they
need
the
money
because
of
what
deficiencies
are
there
and
is
that
data
that
we
can
then
turn
over
and
use
to
finish,
a
survey
that
we've
already
started
and
then,
if
we
have,
if
we're
paying
somebody
to
be
a
resident
food,
equity
advisor
and
they're
out
out
dealing
with
members
of
the
public,
can't
they
be,
can
we
be
using
the
data
and
the
information
that
they're
gathering
to
inform
parts
of
that
survey
as
well?
B
B
B
Is
that
a
possibility
that
the
council
could
say
we
fund
the
resin
food
equity
advisor
program,
the
food
equity
microgram
program,
and
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
to
finish
the
assessment
and
I
mean:
could
we
bid
it
out
and
say
which
consultants
could
make
it
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
or
is
that
we
already
have
a
an
on-call
consultant
that
that
works
on
this?
So
we
don't,
they
would
just
provide
a
scope
of
work
and
we
would
we
would
adjust
the
scope
of
work
accordingly
to
get
down
to
a
hundred
thousand
okay.
B
So
because,
when
I'm
looking
at
this
and
and
looking
like,
we
can
fund,
we
can
fund
two
programs
that
are
actually
either
putting
a
person
out
in
the
community
or
putting
money
out
into
the
community
for
substantially
less
than
what
we're
getting
just
to
study,
something
or
just
to
finish,
studying
something.
B
I
mean
I
I
understand,
you
know
that
planning
is
important,
obviously,
and
that
that
helps
us
avoid
inefficiencies
down
the
road,
but
it
just
seems
odd
that
that
good,
we
can't
do
two
things
at
once
when
we're
paying
these
programs
that
are
more
direct
that
are
interfacing
directly
with
the
community,
as
opposed
to
paying
a
consultant
to
study
interactions
with
the
community
or
needs
of
the
community
can
before
you
respond
debbie
can
I
I
see
what
you
are
saying
chris,
but
I
also
think
this
goes
into
the
conversation
of
what
is
the
role
of
of
sustainability?
B
Is
it
the
the
actual
program
provider
that,
with
those
two
programs
with
the
resident
food
equity
advisor
program
and
the
food
equity
micro
grant
program,
or
is
it
the
gatherer
and
then
disburse
money
to
our
community
programs
that
are
already
doing
these
things?
Based
on
what
we
know
the
need
is
yeah.
I
agree.
I
think
we
we're
kind
of
in
both
playing
in
both
fields
right
now.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
with
that
that
that
I
haven't
pointed
out
was
part
of
that.
B
We
kind
of
expanded
the
scope
of
the
community
food
assessment
because
we,
the
consultant,
is
planning
to
meet
with
different
department
representatives
to
see
where
maybe
other
programs
or
policies
don't
align
with
food
access
or
where
we
could
have
more
alignment.
Transportation
is
a
key
example.
Transportation
is
a
really
important
factor
in
in
accessing
food,
so
just
looking
at
some
of
our
own
programs
and
policies
and
seeing
where
we
can
have
better
alignment-
and
that
was
that's
part
of
a
bit
of
an
expanded
scope.
B
Mr
chair,
the
more
we
talk
about
this,
the
more
I
would
like
to
have
that
policy
discussion
about
what
the
role
of
the
city
should
be
in
sustainability
as
a
whole,
but
specifically
the
food
equity
piece
of
it.
So
I
would
propose
a
straw
poll
that
we
put
that
125
000
in
a
holding
account
pending
that
future
discussion.
B
So
we
hold
off
on
hiring
that
consultant
and
moving
forward
on
that
until
we
can
decide
whether
or
not
we
should
be
doing
that,
we
actually
do
have
a
scope
of
work
already
agreed
upon
with
the
consultant,
because
we
started
this
last
year.
So
there's
a
scope
of
work
that
has
been.
I
would
have
to
check
to
see
how
much
we
have
committed,
but
it
could
impact
it's
already
underway,
but
the
money
wasn't
appropriated
yet
for
that
last
year
it
was
yeah
before
this
year.
B
What
do
you
mean
a
re-budget?
I
I
don't
know
if
we
encumbered
it,
but
we
we
we're,
calling
it
a
reap
budget.
I
guess
it
was
yeah.
I
think
sorry,
do
you
mind?
Yeah
thanks.
B
We've
had
some
confusion,
because
I
think
there
are
some
contracts
where
some
funds
were
appropriate
in
previous
years,
which
enabled
sustainability
to
contract
with
a
consultant,
and
then
they
would
like
to
expand
and
continue
that
work,
necessitating
additional
funding
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
Adding
to
that
contract.
B
So
is
it
correct
to
say
that
you
couldn't
eliminate
all
of
the
funding,
but
you
could
eliminate
some
yeah
okay,
and
that
means
there's
a
a
problem
then
with
finance,
because
anything,
that's
in
this
new
budget.
You
can't
have
partially
expended
already,
and
I
think
that
that's
where
the
term-
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
spend
more
time
the
term
encumbrance-
is
really
what
means
what
means
money
that
continues
from
one
year
to
another.
B
If,
if
you
haven't
applied
it
to
a
contract,
then
it
would
drop
to
fund
balance
and
and
then
that
would
just
be
a
request
to
budget,
not
a
re-budget.
Does
that
mean
make
sense,
it'd
be
a
reappropriation
jennifer?
Oh,
thank
you,
mary
beth.
What
was
that
it'd
be
a
reappropriation
of
a
fund
balance
right
right
and
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
Let
me
work
with
debbie
on
this
and
then
I
can
get
back
with
you
on
it
to
see.
B
If
it's
a
reappropriation
or
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
made
clear
with
sustainability
specifically
refuse
is
that
we
don't
allow
them
to
do
encumbrances.
They
have
to
come
back
with
that
funding.
Let
me
work
with
debbie
and
then
I
will
get
back
to
you
on
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
another
question:
go
ahead,
christian
thanks
on
the
the
other!
B
Another
big
ticket
item
is
the
300
000
for
the
electrified
transportation
planning,
and
I
I
I'm
sure
you
addressed
this
in
your
presentation
but
in
my
mind
that
was
ages
ago,
even
though
it
was
last
week.
Can
you
remind
me
so
it's
150
000
for
athlete
consultant
and
then
another
150
000
for
a
community
sitting.
B
That's
a
sighting
consultant
sighting!
Sorry!
So
what
is
what
are
we
covering
under
there?
So
two
parts
of
that?
So
we
have
we're
working
with
an
internal
electrified
transportation
committee
and
there's
two
parts
of
of
advancing
our
electrified
goals,
and
one
is
looking
at
our
internal
fleet.
We've
been
working
with
nancy
and
fleet,
but
she's
got
a
fleet
plan
and
an
electrification
plan,
but
we
need
an
assessment
of
what
is
needed
in
in
terms
of
infrastructure
and
charging
that
fleet.
B
Okay,
that's
right
and
looking
at
you
know
all
of
the
programs
that
are
available
and
the
upcoming
grants
that
are
going
to
be
coming
for
from
the
federal
government.
The
other
is
more
of
the
external
facing
public
charging
and
really
providing
some
vision,
some
helping
us
envision.
What
the
city's
role
is
in
the
public
infrastructure,
including
you
know,
when
do
we
start
recapturing
some
of
those
those
costs
related
to
the
electricity
that
we're
providing,
so
that
that
would
those
studies
would
lead
very
well
into
the
policy
question
that
you
asked
earlier
about.
B
So
would
that
be
a
in
addition
to
the
other
214
putting
them
in
the
holding
account
for
that
policy?
B
It
seemed
like
it
seems
like
we're
we're
discussing
all
of
it
at
the
same
time,
and
that
would
be
a
a
good
place
to
put
it
into
the
holding
account
until
we
have
a
discussion
on
the
policy
yeah.
This
is
really
a
kind
of
a
a
right.
This
goes
back
to
the
other
214,
so
this
would
be
add
that
to
that
214
that
we
put
in
the
holding
account
until
we
have
a
policy,
so
these
studies
would
help
us
develop
that
policy.
B
This
money
would
help
us
develop
that
policy.
The
the
point
is
that
the
council
wants
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
you
develop
that
policy
right
and
that's
a
struggle
that
we
always
have
is.
Is
the
council
being
the
policy
body
right,
wants
to
be
involved
in
having
the
conversation
before
you
get
too
far
down
the
road?
B
So
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
I,
when
I
was
talking
to
sam,
it
seems
like
it
would
be
appropriate
and
helpful
to
share
with
you
what
the
scope
of
work
for
these
two
studies
would
be
they're,
really
their
studies.
B
So
it's
it's
looking
at
what
what
city's
role
ought
to
be
and
then
presenting
that
to
the
council
for
that
policy
discussion.
Is
that
that
if
that
would
be
works,
that's
what
the
resolution
calls
for
about
planning.
So,
yes,
do
send
the
scopes,
so
the
council
can
look
with
you
at
them
right
sure
we
can
so
so
the
after
chris's
questions
here
we
would
have
if
I'm
reading
this
right
514
in
that
holding
account.
Is
that
correct
the
214
from
before
in
this
300.
B
B
Put
in
a
holding
account
or
not,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
and
make
sure
that
there's
no
way
that
that
we're
being
duplicative-
and
you
know
we're,
allocate
or
doing
multiple
studies
on
to
go
out
and
get
information
that
we
could
be
getting
in
other
ways
is
my
only
question
here
and
I
I
hear
debbie
saying
that
that's
you
know
that
there's
some
overlap,
but
that
they're
these
kind.
It
sounds
like
these
kind
of
need
to
be
done
in
concert
with
each
other.
B
Is
that
what
you're
saying
yeah
one
they
do
need
to
be
looked
at
together:
okay,
yeah,
so
having
that
pile
of
discussion
we're
just
putting
in
a
holding
account,
but
we
need
to
have
that
policy
discussion.
So
we
can
look
at
these
two
cost
line
items
and
see
if
they're
justified
or
we
need
to
change
the
scope
on
them
or
whatever.
But
that's
why
we'd
have
that
policy
discussion
so
just
to
be
clear,
you
you'd
like
to
see
the
scope
of
work
for
those
those
studies
I'm
looking
at.
B
Yes,
yes,
look
at
the
scope
of
work
for
those
studies,
so
we
can
have
it
as
the
policy
makers.
Look
at
that
policy,
decide
if
we
want
to
do
the
studies
or
not
or
we
rescue
that
or
or
what
you
know,
that's
what
that's
what
the
discussion
would
be
about:
okay,
yeah,
the
money
would
be
set
aside
for
that,
mr
chair.
B
If,
if
I
followed
correctly,
there
are
two
items
going
into
the
holding
account,
there's
the
214
that
we
just
discussed
a
few
minutes
ago
about
the
ev
chargers
and
then
this
spine,
because
they're
kind
of
both
these
are
two
different
things
too.
Two
different
lineups.
Yes,
yes,
but
it's
really
the
ev
charger
and
the
electrification
policies
that
we're
looking
at
hold
on
the
electrical
transportation
policy.
Thank
you
and
then
what's
the
other
attack,
what's
the
other
cost?
B
What's
the
other
number
214
from
the
down
on
the
bottom
yeah
public
facing
evs
and
the
300
000
in
electrified
transportation
planning
tonight,
mr
chair
for
later
after
next
month?
Maybe
two
months-
I
don't
know
four
months
from
now.
So
could
we
do
just?
Maybe
this
isn't
quick
to
me?
B
We
can't
do
anything
with
that
and
other
times,
they're
super
informative
and
they
really
do
inform
the
direction
of
the
city.
But
just
later
I
would
love
to
see
that
number.
Okay,
any
further
questions
on
this.
These
couple
topics.
Oh
sorry,
do
we
need
to
do
a
straw
poll
on
that
one,
or
do
we
I'll
agree?
That
can
I
just
add
one
more
thing:
sorry
that
part
of
that
214.
B
We
are
evaluating
some
sites
right
now,
including
second
south,
where
there
may
be
a
spot
that
might
be
ideal
for
an
ev
charger
and
that
funding
is
would
be
the
potential
source
of
putting
that
in.
So
there
may
be
some
construction
projects
going
on
where
it
might
be
ideal
to
put
in
an
ev
charger.
Well,
the
soonest
that
you
could
get
this
funding
is
july,
one
yeah
and
let's
just
talk
to
finance
and
lisa
and
go
from
there
instead.
B
Okay,
this
is
not
gonna
work
tonight,
because
we're
not
gonna
be
able
to
figure
it
out.
Okay,
all
right!
I
just
I
just
so
the
straw
poll
here
right
now
is
go
ahead
and
cut.
I
should
I
just
have
like
just
a
thought
here,
because
I
feel
like
we're
getting
tangled
and
I
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
it
feels
like
in
the
sometimes
some
other
council
in
the
past
decided
that
ev
chargers
is
something
that
the
city
ought
to
do
on
the
streets.
Okay,
so
that
was
decided
a
long
time
ago.
B
B
So
we
can
have
that
discussion
if
we,
if
we
are
doing
for,
for
example,
for
the
food
one,
if
we're
doing
the
you
know
the
putting
the
people
together
or
we
are
the
people
that
are
putting
the
money
into
the
people's
hands
and
the
same
thing
on
this.
If
we're
going
to
do
the
studies
or
we're
going
to
do
the
funding
for
the
electrical
grid
for
this,
so
so
the
council,
this
council
is
saying:
hey,
maybe
we
don't
want
electrical
charges
anymore,
like
we
have
on
200
south?
No,
no,
no,
no!
No!
B
We're
not
we're
going
to
decide
that
later.
No
we're
not,
but
we're
also
we're
also
looking
at
whether
we
charge
for
them
right
now,
they're
free,
so
there's
also
the
policy
questions
are.
When
do
we
change
that
from
an
incentive
of
having
it
free
to
someone
going
there
and
getting
paid
for
the
charge?
Okay,
and
so
that
so
that
discussion
of
that
analysis?
B
I
mean
by
2025
we're
not
going
to
fund
this
anymore
and
because
we
have
this
data
that
we
came
up
with
or
we're
going
to
have
somebody
that
will
come
to
us
and
say
this
is
a
data
make
a
decision
on
this,
like
I'm,
not
understanding?
Why
there's
so
much
like
they're
like
we're
tangled
here,
and
it
doesn't
look
to
me
like
it's
that
complicated
in
my
head?
Maybe
it's
just
me,
I
I'm
not
sure.
B
May
I
take
a
step
behind
okay,
so
I
think
that
because
sustainability
had
previously
been
funded
by
the
outside
source,
there
wasn't
as
much
attention
paid
to
the
policy
work
that
was
going
on
there
and
now
it's
they
need
general
fund
money.
So
the
the
money
that
they
need
is
competing
with
all
of
the
rest
of
the
money
that
you
need
in
the
city.
B
B
That's
not
here
that
you
hope
will
study,
because
you
want
to
talk
about
it
later,
so
just
those
those
really
basic,
simple
things
that
so
that
you,
as
the
policymakers
of
the
city,
have
the
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
okay,
and
so
that's
that's
all
it
is
is
if,
if
there
is
going
to
be
a
time
when
you
don't
give
free
ev
charging
anymore,
do
you
want
to
learn
some
more
about
that
right
now
and
what
are
the
questions
you
have
so
that
debbie
can
include
them
in
her
in
this
couple
work
for
the
consultant
for
the
consultant,
so
that
sometimes
someone's
gonna
come
and
tell
us
this
is
these?
B
Are
your
options
looking
into
the
future?
If
you
guys
want
to
continue
to
yes
or
no
okay,
so
we
don't
want
to
get
in
a
situation
where
we
have
a
10-year
plan
or
a
five-year
plan
that
the
council
didn't
have
any
role
at
all
in
okay
and
that
we've
had
that
in
the
past.
All
right
can
I
have
a
question
about
something
that
you
said,
mr
chair.
I
don't
think
it's
accurate
that
we
people
can
go
and
charge
their
cars
for
free.
B
B
Now
how
come
you
have
to
download
the
app
and
how
come
I
have
to
pay
for
it.
Well,
you
have
to
download
you
have
to
download
the
app.
So
you
can
open
up
the
charger
for
your
car.
I
know,
but
then
it
charges
you
money,
yeah
and
where's.
The
bill
go
to.
Do
you
get
a
better?
No
you!
Don't
it's
free,
oh
okay,
all
right
good
to
know!
Thank
you
sure.
B
The
app
will
show
you,
when
it's
available,
so
so
back
to
this
straw
poll,
of
putting
this
514
thousand
dollars
into
a
holding
account
as
we
discuss
the
policy
at
the
council
level.
All
right,
so
I
got
six
thumbs
up
seven
thumbs
up.
Thank
you.
B
B
Section
two:
no
h
whatever
jennifer
hasn't
done.
Okay,
so
item
h,
yeah
item
h
is
re
one
council
member
early
on
in
the
budget
process.
B
We
were
talking
about
new
programs
and
existing
programs
that
ones
and
ones
that
are
kind
of
within
the
scope
of
the
traditional
city
mission
and
ones
that
aren't,
and
so
someone
raised
the
idea
of
you
know
what
would
the
budget
impact
be
if
the
city
reconsidered
having
a
youth
and
family
division
at
all,
and
so
this
was
just
to
provide
that
information
that
it's
2.56
million
from
the
general
fund
that
doesn't
include
grants
that
they
may
get
on
occasion.
But,
and
there
was
some
additional
information.
Sorry,
I'm
not
sure
you
can
hear
me.
B
There
was
some
additional
information
from
youth
and
family
division
that
I
sent
about
909
this
morning
to
you
all.
B
I
mean
I,
I
like
the
idea
that
we
look
at
all
our
youth
and
family
programs
from
the
police
program
from
the
can
department
from
other
departments
and
see
if
there's
an
efficiency
in
bringing
them
together
under
one,
and
we
have
that
as
a
current,
not
not
bringing
them
together,
but
there's
a
legislative
intent
on
page.
B
I
thought
so
five
four
of
the
staff
report
that
asks
about.
Oh,
let's
see.
B
Maybe
it's
not
in
there.
Maybe
that
was
a
potential
legislative
intent.
That
was
in
my
mind
that
never
made
it
asking
the
departments
to
evaluate
the
youth
and
family
programs
across
the
city
and
identify
efficiencies.
It
is
there
in
the
nodes,
and
I
mean
I
think
they
are
not
competing
necessarily.
I
think
the
legislative
intent
reads
in
intend
to
streamline
us
and
centralize
youth
programming
in
the
city
and
the
age
says
reevaluate
whether
the
city
should
have
a
youth
and
division.
B
B
B
Because
we
don't
because
the
legislative
intent
means
for
the
future,
not
for
this
current
budget.
Are
you
we're
on
so
we're
on
h
and
the
legislative
intent
that
I
referenced?
There
never
made
it
into
the
staff
report.
So
so
that's
it's
in
my
head.
You
can
make
it
be
whatever
you
want
it
to
be.
It's
sitting
right
down
there.
I
I
know
that.
I
think
I
it's
it's.
I
think
it's
fine
to
start.
I
I'm
okay
with
starting
with
this
right
now
yeah.
I
I
agree.
I'm
I'm!
B
B
It's
a
lot
of
programs,
but
I
think
we
should
start
looking
at
it
and
I
maybe
there
is
something
to
do
more
much
like
what
we're
doing
what
we
just
did
with
sustainability
is
that
we
can
have
some
more
conversations,
and
I
know
that
that's
more
meetings,
but
I
that
is
a
significant
chunk
of
money,
and
I
don't
know
right
because
I
look
at
this
as
our
number
one
priority.
This
is
a
health
and
mental
mental
health
and
public
safety
of
our
city.
I
look
at
the
part
of
the
programs
that
they
have.
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
council
member
fowler
go
ahead.
Councilman
yeah,
I
one
of
the
other
things
with
the
legislative
intent.
Is
that
I'd
like
to
look-
and
I
can't
open
this-
I
don't
know
if
it's
user
error
or
my
computer,
but
I
can't
open
the
attachment
that
you
sent
allison.
So
I
can't
look
at
that,
but
is
to
also
add
in
relation
to
other
community
organizations
right.
I
look
at
fairmont
park
and
we
have
a
youth
city
campus
over
there.
B
That's
right
next
to
the
boys
and
girls
club
and
sure
they
may
have
different
purposes,
but
maybe
maybe
they
don't,
maybe
they
can
align.
Maybe
if
and
when
we
have
some.
So
I
would
like
that
legislative
intent
to
include
the
relation
that
they
have
with
other
community
organizations,
and
I
think
this
is
sort
of
becoming
a
theme
for
me
at
least
of.
B
B
Some
activities
that
maybe
aren't
or
don't
have
to
be
necessarily
in
our
lane,
because
you
have
other
people
dedicated
to
doing
it,
so
that
would
if
we
can
add
that
to
that
legislative
intent
and
I'm
not
looking
at
just
necessarily
getting
rid
of
the
whole
program,
I
just
I
do
think,
there's
some
some
inefficiencies
and
almost
like
a
mini
audit
in
some
ways
of
these
programs
in
this
division-
and
this
might
be
a
perfect
example
for
the
program-based
budgeting
in
the
matrix
in
the
erp
section.
B
This
is
kind
of
like
one
of
those
things
where
this
would
probably
work
well
under
that
kind
of
structure.
Possibly,
mr
economic,
just
a
really
quick
comment.
I
I
was
I've
also
been
interested
in
just
evaluating
what
the
city's
role
is
and
things
like
this.
I
will
say,
though,
that
this
number
is
actually
smaller
than
I
expected
it
to
be.
So
I
seems
like
actually
we're
spending
less
on
this
than
I
expected
us
to
be
spending
on
it
and
the
benefit
the
benefit,
I
think,
definitely
outweighs
the
cost.
B
In
terms
of,
I
definitely
don't
want
to
cut
it
this
year.
So
I'm
happy
to
have
more
discussion,
but
I
was
expecting
it
to
be
much
more
than
2.5
million
that
we
were
spending
on
that.
So
that
changes
the
calculation
for
me
a
little
bit,
but
I'm
still
very
much
open
to
having
the
discussion
about
streamlining
it
and
everything
else.
We've
just
talked
about
okay.
My
concern,
my
concern
is
the
places
that
were
inadvertently
nickel
and
diming
us,
like
nearly
every
department.
B
That's
come
before
us
has
had
some
kind
of
youth
outreach
and,
like
the
police
department's
not
going
to
reach
the
people
that
the
youth
city
at
the
fair
park
is
reaching,
and
so
instead
of
duplicating
audience
creation
and
trust,
building
and
stakeholder
development.
If
we
choose
to
keep
this
program,
I'd
like
to
see
some
sort
of
policy
about
how
we
engage
youth
through
other
programs,
that
don't
add
such
significant
amounts
to
our
budget,
but
actually
capitalize.
B
B
The
reason
the
number
is
lower,
probably
than
you
expected,
is
because
youth
and
family
receives
grants
equal
to
the
amount
of
money
that
we
invest
in
general
fund,
so
they
are
they're
half
funded
by
grants
and
half
funded
by
general
fund.
So
that's
the
reason
we're
able
to
keep
those
costs
as
low
as
they
are
and
there's
also,
I
think,
a
pretty
good
argument
to
be
made
about
the
responsibility
and
maybe
duplication
of
effort
effort.
B
B
I
think
it
varies
from
year
to
year
based
on
the
grants
that
are
expiring
and
coming
online,
but
I
think
the
point
is
they're
grant
heavy
when
it
first
started,
it
was
100
funded
with
grants,
okay,
but
more
and
less
five
million
dollars.
Two
and
a
half
we're
getting
grants
great
thanks.
That
seems
to
happen
100
and
then
we
are
then
looking
at
how
to
keep
funding
out
of
the
general
budget.
B
B
One
council
member
asked
about
the
status
of
that
10
million
that
was
sort
of
set
aside
for
a
potential
early
childhood
education
impact
investing
thing:
the
administration.
Let
us
know
that
they're
still
working
with
stakeholders,
that
the
phase
that
the
council
discussed
as
part
of
budget
amendment
was
funded
a
different
way
and
they
completed
that
phase
and
they're.
Reviewing
some
of
that
data
with
stakeholders,
but
it's
not
necessarily
that
money
is
not
necessarily
spoken
for,
so
the
council
could
choose
to
have
that
discussion
with
the
administration.
B
B
All
right
and
then
the
next
item
is
again
just
putting
out
all
options,
not
that
they're,
all
necessarily
great
the
staff
checked
on
the
status
of
the
4
million
dollars
from
arpa
for
community
grants
that
was
approved
as
part
of
budget
amendment
6
and
sent
to
economic
development
and
can
2
million
and
2
million
those
dollars
that
program
that
grant
allocation
program
has
not
yet
been
set
up
or,
and
those
funds
have
not
yet
been
deployed.
It
will
come
back
to
the
council.
B
I
think
the
proposal
was
for
those
funds
to
come
back
to
the
council,
so
obviously
you'll
see
when
those
funds
are
deployed,
but
technically
those
funds
have
not
been
also.
Those
funds
have
not
also
been
spoken
for
yet,
and
you
could
choose
to
reallocate
if
you
were
getting
desperate,
it
would
have
to
be
reallocated
for
arpa
eligible
items
which
we
would
have
to
work
with
finance
on.
B
Obviously,
because
there's
a
lot
of
restrictions,
we
couldn't
change
our
on
our
ongoing
force
revenue
side,
one
time,
one
time,
one
time,
funding
that
would
have
to
be
approved.
B
Yep
all
right
and
that's
the
end.
Okay,
do
you
would
you
like
a
status
update
on
balance
out
of
balance?
B
It's
not
as
bad
as
I
was
thinking.
It
would
be
I'll
I'll
show
you
guys.
B
So
can
you
see
that
okay,
so
152
000
out
of
balance,
I'm
really
elementary,
and
I
like
it
red
when
it's
bad
and
green
when
it's
good,
and
so
you
mean
100,
152,
000
and
802
more
in
expenses
than
you
have
revenues?
For
that
said,
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
one-time
funding,
because
you
you
the
savings
from
that
salary
study.
That's
580,
000
of
one-time
money.
B
So
so
one
thing
we're
gonna
call
it
a
night
here,
but
and
there's
a
lot
more
on
this
unresolved
issues,
a
lot
more
on
this
unresolved
issue.
So
I
encourage
you
to
read
through
it
get
jennifer
ben
cindy,
allison,
yep
feedback.
B
And
that
concludes.
Do
you
want
to
have
announcements
now?
Oh
yeah,
we
yeah
cindy
does
have
some
announcements.
Sorry,
just
don't
forget
tomorrow
morning:
9
a.m,
peace,
gardens,
the
national
gun,
violence,
awareness,
day
wearing
orange
and
then
on
thursday
june
9th.
B
Some
of
you
have
responded.
Some
haven't.
We,
if
possible,
need
to
start
the
council
meeting
at
noon
so
that
one
of
your
peers
can
go
out
of
town.
That
day
we
probably
go
until
4,
30
or
5..
Is
that
okay
noon
on
the
9th
that's
thursday,
thursday
uh-huh
at
noon
and
we're
going
to
finish
up
at
4,
30
or
5.
B
dinner
will
be
served
at
eight
dinner
will
be
served
at
eight
dances.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
know
who's
going
out
of
town.
I
won't.
I
won't
point
any
fingers
on
anybody
I'll
confess
it's
me
and
it's,
but
it
to
be
to
in
my
own
defense.
It
is
for
chris
jensen's
birthday
and
he's
turning
40..
So
I'm
not
in
puerto
rico.
That's
all!
I
have
to
say:
okay,
we're
adjourned.