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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 09/05/2023
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A
And
welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting.
As
always,
our
meetings
are
public
and
you
can
join
us
in
person
or
by
watching
from
the
council's
agenda
page
Zoom,
Facebook,
YouTube
or
slcv.
We
hope
you'll
continue
to
join
us
in
whichever
manner
you
most
feel
comfortable
right
now,
we're
in
work
session,
meaning
there's
no
public
comments.
But
tonight
we
do
have
a
formal
meeting
scheduled
at
7
p.m.
A
and
we
will
welcome
your
comments
on
a
few
specific
items
as
well
as
our
general
comment
period,
where
you
can
talk
to
us
about
anything
related
to
the
city
that
you're
interested
in.
Of
course,
we
always
welcome
your
feedback
by
mail
at
px14,
5476,
Salt,
Lake,
C,
84114,
email
at
counsel.
comments
at
slcgov.com
or
via
our
24hour
phone
comment
line.
80535
76
654,
written
comments
received
on
agendar
related
topics
are
shared
with
council
members
and
posted
to
the
website.
A
B
A
B
Used
to
it
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
to
our
first
slide,
which
of
course,
is
our
regular
reminder
of
the
website.
You
can
go
to
to
engage
on
regular
engagement
topics
throughout
the
city,
which
is
our
feedback
page
next
Slide.
The
Arts
Council
is
collecting
feedback
on
community
values
and
goals
for
the
public
arts
program.
We've
told
you
about
the
survey
that
they
are
doing
before
they
have
decided
to
extend
that
survey
through
the
end
of
September.
B
This
is
asking
the
public
what
should
be
considered
for
a
public
art
for
a
public
artwork
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake
City
survey
is
available
through
the
feedback
page
and
is
available
in
both
English
and
Spanish.
The
1,000
or
10th
West
corridor
plan
survey
is
now
closed
and
the
project
team
team
is
analyzing.
The
collected
data
creating
a
final
design
for
traffic
calming
on
10th
West
expected
construction
will
be
next
spring
or
summer.
B
There
will
be
more
updates
on
that
as
it
comes
in
Sugar
House,
safe
side
streets
received
additional
CIP
funding
to
implement
more
elements
of
the
concept
design.
So
that's
now
going
through
design
process
with
construction.
Slated
for
summer
or
fall
of
20124
Redevelopment
agency
has
an
update
on
ballpark
next,
the
community
visioning
phase
has
begun.
B
It
was
first
announced
at
the
August
ballpark
neighborhood
council
meeting,
and
there
is
now
an
online
community
mapping
tool
called
the
social
pinpoint
which
allows
people
to
make
notes
on
the
parcels
being
considered
for
redevelopment.
This
feedback
includes
sharing
ideas
and
suggestions,
marking,
Community
assets
and
highlighting
areas
of
concern
that
will
be
open
until
September
30th.
The
engagement
tool
is
linked
on
the
original
ballpark
next.com
webpage,
and
then
it
will
also
be
on
the
new
website
engage
ballpark.
B
comom,
which
will
be
the
hub
for
the
four
remaining
Community
engagement
opportunities
during
the
community
visioning
phase,
which
will
include
two
surveys
and
two
community
events.
Next
slide.
Public
Utilities
is
replacing
and
upgrading
the
sewer
system
under
2100
South
between
Highland
Drive
and
yum
Street
2030
East.
The
sewer
line
is
over
100
years
old
and
is
generally
too
small
to
service
the
more
than
4,000
properties
in
the
area.
Construction,
which
is
starting
today,
is
anticipated
to
to
occur
in
two
phases.
B
With
phase
one
work
from
Highland
Drive
to
1400
East,
the
public
utilities
team
has
been
doing
doorto
door,
canvasing
visiting
neighborhood,
Council
presentations
and
neighbor
newsletters
mailers
social
media
Etc.
To
get
the
word
out,
Public
Utilities
is
also
working
with
contractor
on
the
City
Creek
Water
Treatment
project
and
the
Civic
engagement
team
on
plans
for
a
media
event
to
officially
kick
off
the
construction.
B
For
that
project,
like
will
be
sometime
in
October,
more
information
will
come
while
that's
finalized,
but
the
team
will
be
at
the
Avenue's
street
fair
this
weekend
to
help
inform
the
community.
Public
Utilities
is
also
kicking
off
their
lead
and
copper
program
in
keeping
with
the
epa's
new
lead
and
copper
rule
they're
working
with
residents
to
determine
whether
they
have
lead
in
their
water
service
lines
and
for
those
who
identify
lead,
they're
able
to
help
with
next
steps
to
remediate
the
number
of
already
identified.
B
Finalized
next
slide.
Some
planning
updates
ballpark
station
area.
Zoning
map
amendments
will
be
in
front
of
the
community
for
a
meeting
on
September
7th.
With
a
new
proposal
after
Community
feedback
was
received.
This
is
basically
swapping
out
the
TSA
zoning
with
form
base
zoning,
so
that
will
be
on
September
7th.
The
gas
station
near
water
bodies
is
still
being
planned
for
September
13th
in
front
of
the
planning
Planning
Commission
right
now.
B
The
petition
initiated
Community
benefits
requirements
is
in
its
45
day,
hearing
input
period
and
then
daycare
amendments
which
would
remove
barriers
for
locating
day
day
carees
in
the
city
and
align
with
align
city
regulations
with
state
code
will
be
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission
on
SE
September
13th.
So
a
lot
of
movement
there
next
slide
is
our
community
office
hours
for
my
team
in
the
mayor's
office.
B
We're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
places
this
month,
it's
an
active
month
with
a
lot
of
community
events,
and
we
always
like
to
be
where
the
community
is
already
at.
So
those
you'll
see
a
lot
of
known
events
like
the
avenue
street,
fair,
9th
and
9th
Festival,
where
my
team
will
be
identified
for
folks
to
go
up
and
talk
about
anything
City
related
with
them.
They'd
love
to
see
you
next
slide.
This
is
a
little
small
and
full,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
events
happening
again.
B
These
are
not
all
the
events.
These
are
the
city
sponsored
Ace
and
publicly
permitted
events.
So
if
you
don't
see
your
favorite
event
on
here,
it's
not
because
it's
not
happening
it's
just
not
on
this
list,
but
this
is
will
actually
just
get
you
through
next
weekend.
So
there's
a
lot
September
is
an
active
week
are
an
active
month.
B
A
C
A
D
D
Way
some
are
more
styish
than
others.
Obviously
I'm,
not
one
of
them.
You'll
see
here
that
the
Resource
Centers
are
still
very,
very,
very
full
over
99%
full.
Today
there
was
an
encampment
impact
mitigation
project
up
at
Victory
Road,
and
it
may
be
two
days
worth
it's
one
of
those
large
places
that
do
gets
attracts
a
lot
of
attention.
Over
the
year
the
number
of
camps
has
gone
up:
the
heart
track
camps.
Unfortunately,
the
VA
Outreach
engagement
has
gone
down
mostly
because
they
lost
their
staff.
D
This
happens
periodically
at
turnover
and
those
teams.
This
just
happened
all
at
once
and
so
they're
pretty
under
staff
for
a
little
bit
now
so
we'll
see
as
they
ramp
back
up.
Those
numbers
should
go
up
again
and
then
a
race
resource
fair
this
week
at
Pioneer,
Park
kayak
court
is
the
wrong
date.
I
apologize
on
there,
it
should
be
the
22nd.
Normally
it
is
the
third
Friday,
but
there's
a
Judicial
conference
I
believe
that
they'll
be
attending
any
questions
on
that.
E
F
So
I
guess
you
know
we're
going
to
have
you
know
more
information
today
from
you
know
this
the
state
and
whatnot,
but
I
guess
this
is
a
good
question
for
the
state
and
us
in
general,
all
of
the
pieces
that
work
on
on
the
homeless
and
shelter
issues.
But
what
are
we
doing
to
keep
up
with
the
demand
if
you
wish
and
because
99%
99.4%
on
in
the
summer
is
since
Boris
some
to
me.
F
So
I
guess
I'm
not
really
asking
you
a
question
but
expressing
a
concern
that
we
probably
need
to
start
racing
and
I
know
that
you
guys
are
but
racing
red
Flags
about
this
about
the
need
of
more
beds
and
I
know
that
we,
the
the
discussions
about,
flexing
or
not
flexing
or
how
much
or
you
know,
but
there
is
to
be
there's
need
there
needs
to
be
a
need
for
a
a
bigger
solution.
So
I
guess
that's
my.
D
D
No
I
think
early
on.
Maybe
we
had
a
couple
of
things
like
that
and
there
have
been
times
periodically,
but
not
very
often,
I
think
it
is
a
good
question
council
member
for
Wayne
eer
haser
when
he
comes
I,
think
you'll
have
an
hour
with
him,
I
believe,
which
is
a
good
dose
of
Wayne.
Should
we
start
a
list,
we
should
start
a
list.
D
I
I
think
to
to
point
out,
though,
last
week
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
winter
overflow
needs
and
that
the
calculation
this
year
by
the
Salt,
Lake,
Valley,
Coalition
and
homelessness,
and
the
State
Office
of
homeless
Services
raised
that
number
to
a
point
where
they
felt
it
was
sufficient
for
the
worst
case.
One
night
need
during
the
winter
time,
so
that
is
new
this
year.
It
does
reflect
I,
think
an
acknowledgement.
There
are
more
needs
and
I.
Think
looking
at
this
number
also
is
a
there's,
the
complexity
into
that.
D
Sometimes
you
can
read
it
as
the
centers
are
doing
well,
because
people
want
to
be
in
there
and
that's
a
good
thing.
You
can
also
read
it
to
your
point
of
are
more
people
who
need
this,
but
we've
always
known
there's
more
folks
than
we
have
beds,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
parts
for
the
State
Office
of
homeless
services
and
Us
in
collaboration
is
what
do
we
do
with
this
need
after
April
right
year
round
for
the
shelter
need
along
with
all
the
housing
needs.
We
have.
F
Go
ahead,
Mr
I,
remember
yeah!
You
reminded
me
of
something
that
I
I
watch
there
is
this
interactive
U
ma
map?
If
you
wish,
when
the
hrc's
were
proposed
back
in
the
day
and
the
the
law
came
out,
you
know
from
the
legislature
to
create
this
system
that
we
have
right
now
and
I.
Remember
that,
ideally,
the
hrc's
were
not
to
be
at
this
level
in
the
summer.
F
You
know
heard
that
graph
that
was
moving
I
remember
was
kind
of
mesmerizing,
then
that
you
know
the
legislature
was
making
this
beautiful,
interactive
sort
of
map
of
how
this
System
supposed
to
work.
I
remember
it
spoke
to
how
the
hrc's
in
the
summer
and
my
much
lower
Place
and
in
the
winter
already
being
having
enough
beds
to
absorve
the
the
need
for
the
winter
needs.
I
can
try
to
pull
it
off.
I.
Remember.
D
H
H
A
little
encouraged
that
the
number
is
high,
that
it's
being
utilized
more
in
the
summer
and
because
we've
seen
a
change
in
in
District
Four
by
the
by
the
by
the
king,
Resource
Center,
where,
because
of
the
new
security
enh
hand,
security,
that
the
shelter
has
we've
seen
more
people
like
not
on
the
streets
but
probably
inside,
and
that's
what
that's
something
that
it's
encouraging
for
the
neighborhood
I've
gotten
good
good
feedback
from
the
immediate
neighbors
there.
So
perhaps
it's
working
people
are
encouraged
to
go
inside
the
shelter.
H
Perhaps
that's
one
of
the
reasons
number
two:
the
resource
Fair
on
Friday
District,
4,
council
member,
collects
clean,
used
clothes
to
be
given
out
to
the
homeless
every
resource
fair.
So
if
you
have
any
Ed
clothes
that
people
can
use,
please
drop
them
off
here
at
the
third.
On
the
third
floor,
Council
Office
we'll
collect
them,
we'll
be
there
in
the
morning.
We,
you
know,
we
sort
them
out
and
probably
within
30
minutes,
they're
all
gone,
so
the
need
is
great.
D
Thank
you,
council
member.
We
had
one
more
slide.
Mr
chair,
I
didn't
want
to
take
too
much
time,
but
this
is
the
update
for
you
all
about
the
non-congregate
shelter
project.
Just
so
you
know
there
are
agreements
in
place.
Here
are
some
of
the
things
we're
working
on
with
the
state,
it's
temporary
size
of
5050
people,
solid
structures,
on-site
bathrooms,
fencing
neighborhood,
Safety
and
Security
plan
and
then
an
operator
scope
of
work.
D
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
for
your
updates
item.
Two
on
our
agenda
is
a
follow-up
discussion
on
the
North
Point
small
area
plan.
We
have
Nick
tarbet
from
the
council
staff.
That's
going
to
introduce
this
and
then
Chrissy
Gilmore
and
Kelsey
linquist,
both
from
planning
staff
here
to
help
us
continue
their
our
discussion
on
this.
It
and
I
see
Nick
Norris
as.
I
Right
yeah,
but
we
do
so.
This
is
a
follow-up
briefing
on
the
North
Point
small
area
plan.
The
first
briefing
was
held
in
February
of
this
year
and
then
a
public
hearing
was
held
in
March
that
public
hearing
was
closed
and
action
was
deferred
to
a
future
council
meeting.
The
intent
of
this
is
since
it's
been
about
6
months,
is
to
reorient
the
council
and
the
public
to
the
issues
of
the
North
Point
small
area
plan
and
then
to
also
go
over
some
of
the
related
issues
like
annexations
in
the
area.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
We
can
start
with
the
next
slide.
Sorry,
the
echo
might
take
me
a
second
so
just
to
reorient
you
I
know
this
might
be
a
repeat
for
many,
but
there's
probably
new
people
tuning
in.
So
this
is
our
study
area,
it's
north
east
of
the
airport
and
it
has
land,
that's
in
Salt,
Lake,
County,
so
unincorporated
land
and
then
Salt
Lake
City
land.
We
can
go
to
the
next.
J
Slide
and
then
for
context,
so
the
existing
plan
that
we're
working
off
of
now
the
north
PL
plan
was
adopted
in
two
April
of
2000.
You
can
see
this
plan
on
the
right
on
of
the
screen
and
right
now,
the
future
land
use
map
calls
for
business
park,
primarily
business
park
for
most
of
the
plan
area,
at
least
that
land
that's
west
of
2200
West,
and
then
you
can
see
agriculture,
ag2
and
ag5,
which
is
large,
lot
Agriculture,
and
then
the
map
to
the
left
is
our
current
zoning.
J
Slide
next
slide,
so
the
goals
for
the
plan-
I'm.
Sorry,
the
formatting
went
a
little
crazy
there.
This
one
started
in
2021
and
went
through
a
develop
a
process
where
the
the
intent
and
the
goals
were
to
minimize
the
impacts
of
development
pressure
on
the
area
and
to
try
and
figure
out
ways
to
make
sure
that
the
existing
residences
and
agricultural
properties
can
zo
coexist
with
PL
and
Industrial
Development,
that's
going
to
be
on
the
west
side
of
2200
West.
J
It
also
looks
at
impacts
that
those
future
land
uses
may
have
on
air
quality,
water
quality,
noise
and
light,
and
then
it
updates
the
future
annexation
potential
for
the
area
next
slide.
So
this
is
the
proposed
Vision
map
you
can
see.
There
are
four
major
categories
and
we're
calling
it
a
vision
map,
but
it's
really
the
future
land
use
map
so
you'll
see
that
there's
open
space
where
we
don't
anticipate
development
and
would
not
support
new
development.
J
Then
there's
this
transitional
area
that
is
primarily
east
of
2200
West
and
this
area
acknowledges
that
development
is
coming
and
that
it
will
impact
those
residents
that
are
along
there.
But
it
does
acknowledge
that
the
future
will
likely
be
light
industrial
and
so,
as
we
get
further
in
this
presentation,
I'll
talk
about
how
this
area
will
have
more
design
standards
in
the
light
industrial
area
area,
and
then
you
can
see
the
gray
is
light
industrial,
where
we
anticipate
mostly
industrial
businesses,
then,
on
the
bottom,
you
see
this
hatch
hatching.
J
This
is
airport
owned
properties.
We
went
through
a
through
a
few
iterations
of
what
this
should
be
for
our
land
use
map
and
after
discussions
with
the
airport,
although
they
don't
anticipate
developing
the
property,
they
want
to
keep
it
open
to
keep
that
buffer.
They
prefer
to
have
their
own
category,
so
they
don't
anticipate
development
there,
I
also
added
on
based
on
our
conversations
at
our
last
meeting.
J
So
the
plan,
the
bulk
of
the
plan,
is
design
standards
and
so
each
of
the
land
use
categories
that
I
just
talked
about
about,
have
design
standards
applied
to
them,
and
these
include
buffering
and
setbacks.
So.
The
plan
calls
for
a
300t
buffer
from
Wetlands
75
ft
from
canals
and
drains
and
100
ft
from
the
Jordan
River.
Then
it
also
has
a
65t
buffer
from
existing
resid
Residential
Properties,
which
is
intended
to
mitigate
the
impacts
of
this
proposed.
J
The
land
use
light
Industrial
Development,
and
then
it
has
a
maximum
continuous
building,
Frontage
on
2200
West
400
ft
in
the
light
industrial
Zone
and
250
ft
in
the
transitional
Zone,
then,
as
far
as
other
design
standards
there's
building
design
requirements.
These
include
things
like
no
large
expanses
of
blank
walls
using
glass,
Design
Elements
to
reduce
reduce
bird
collisions,
there's
also
lighting,
so
all
lighting
would
be
shielded
and
directed
down
and
away
from
the
edges
of
the
property,
as
well
as
restricting
the
hours
of
operations
for
electronic
signs.
J
This
really
is
the
bulk
of
the
plan,
then
there's
water,
conscious
development
standards,
airport
airport,
conflict
mitigation
standards
and
then
standards
for
open
space
like
plantings
and
trails
and
Boardwalk
standards,
and
then
you
can
see
on
this
graphic
on
the
right.
The
design
standards
also
emphasize
clustering
development
and
would
call
for
edit
amendments
to
our
code
right
now
to
encourage
clustering
development
out
of
open
space,
natural
Open,
Spaces
next
slide
and
then
implementation.
J
So
there
are
three
critical
implementation
path
items
identified
in
the
plan
plan
and
these
are
evaluate
Funding,
Solutions
to
redesign
2200,
West
and
construct
2900
West
then
evaluate
the
feasibility
of
acquiring
city-owned
open
space.
The
plan
calls
for
priority
areas
along
the
Jordan
River
and
the
wetlands
adjacent
to
3200
West
and
then
development
code
updates.
So
this
would
be
either
a
Northpoint
specific
development
code
or
a
amendments
to
the
M1
Zone
would
also
be
incorporating
incentive
based
tools
for
preserving
open
space.
J
Slide
and
then
additional
implantation
actions.
These
include
creating
a
local
area
utility
plan,
so
development
is
already
required
to
provide
a
utility
plan,
but
this
would
look
at
a
broader
scale
than
just
their
property.
This
was
requested
by
our
Public
Utilities
Department
to
make
sure
that
any
development
that's
going
into
the
north
porn
area
can
can
sustain
a
larger
and
larger
development
that
may
come
in
and
then
develop.
Environmental
impact
standards
for
new
development,
implement
the
Wetland
buffers
coordinate
with
police
and
fire
service
and
then
support
the
annexation
of
contiguous
Parcels.
J
J
Slide
so
the
one
of
the
major
implementation
strategies
is
to
amend
the
major
streets
plan
as
part
of
this
plan
Amendment
and
there's
three
new
or
amended
streets
on
this
plan.
So
there's
the
new
north
south
collector
of
2900
West.
You
can
see
that
in
this
the
center
of
of
the
map,
then
there's
3200
West.
So
this
one
was
changed
on
this
map
from
the
existing
plan.
J
So
that's
what
that
road
is
about
next
slide
and
then
the
toolkit,
the
plan
has
a
chapter
at
the
end
that
provides
a
toolkit
that
the
council
can
consider
to
implement
the
items
in
the
plan.
So
these
include
things
like
regulatory
tools
like
clustering
incentive,
Bay
tools
like
conservation,
easements
or
purchase
or
transfer
of
development
rights,
and
then
land
ex
land
acquisition,
and
then
it
also
goes
over
various
Financial
tools
for
for
consideration
next
slide.
J
So
when
we
last
met
with
you
in
February,
after
our
discussion,
we
had
several
items
to
look
into
and
revisions
to
the
plan
that
were
directed
so
one
of
the
main
ones
was
Stronger
plan
language.
The
council
directed
us
to
go
through
the
plan
and
rewrite
where
there
should.
It
should
be,
will
and
just
make
sure
that
the
plan
language
is
stronger.
We
also
included
a
statement
within
the
plan
and
within
the
adopting
ordinance
to
make
the
plan
a
binding
document
so
that
we
can
hold
it
to
that
level.
J
Cuz
right
now,
Master
PLS
are
generally
advisory.
Then
we
removed
the
business
park
designation
from
the
land
use
map.
The
original
draft
had
business
park
and
light
industrial,
and
we
took
out
Business
Park
3200
West.
You
asked
for
clarification
that
32
West
cannot
be
access
for
new
development
and
then
it
would
remain
unpaved.
So
we
made
we
made
that
clarification
and
then
the
vision
map
we
added
the
proposed
buffers,
the
Wetland
buffer.
J
The
draft
that
you
reviewed
in
February
had
language
that
would
have
allowed
flexibility
in
the
Wetland
buffer
and
this
was
removed
to
just
a
straightforward,
300
ft
and
then
bird
friendly
design,
we
did
add
a
design
standard
to
support
bird
friendly
design.
There
were
a
few
things
that
were
brought
up
in
that
February
meeting
that
we
either
need
direction
on
or
were
not
recommended.
J
One
of
them
was
gating
or
closing
3200
West,
and
we
at
this
time
don't
recommend
that,
because
of
its
it's
still
being
used
by
the
utility
companies
in
the
airport,
and
we
think
that
would
create
unnecessary
conflicts
if
we
gate
or
close
it
and
then
another
one
that
was
brought
up
was
if
we
could
do
a
construction
fund
for
homeowners,
where
developers
put
money
into
a
construction
fund
that
if
something
happens
to
someone's
house
during
construction,
they
can
tap
into
that.
And
we
also
didn't
recommend
pursuing
that.
E
All
right,
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
for
your
repeated
work
and
repeated
engagement
and
I'm.
Sorry,
for
you
know
the
work
I'm
about
to
give
you
so
Council
friends,
I'm,
going
to
ask
for
you
to
follow
my
lead
and
defer
I
think
I've
touched
base
with
most
of
you
individually
on
this,
but
this
is
possibly
the
most
difficult
part
of
our
city
to
deal
with
at
the
moment.
It's
complex,
the
environmental
concerns
the
logistical
concerns
and
the
thing
that
I
care
about
most
are
the
people
who
live
out
there.
E
The
history
of
marginalization
is
made
even
more
true
for
the
people
who
live
out
there.
They
are
people
who
still
carry
scars
from
from
when
we
executed
imminent
domain
over
the
airport.
That's
how
long
the
scars
go
for
people
who
live
out
there,
and
so,
as
you
all
know,
that
ending
marginalization
as
much
as
I
can
and
removing
barriers
for
as
many
people
as
I
can
is
a
priority
for
me.
E
I'm
going
to
do
that
here
as
well,
and
so
Nick
and
Sophia
have
been
the
most
amazing
Nick
tarbet
Nick,
Norris
you're
great
too,
but
in
this
case
it's
a
nick
tarbet
have
been
amazing
and
what
we
did
was
we
convened
any
neighbor
on
2200,
West
and
in
that
area
to
come
into
one
room
together.
There
were
not
supposed
to
be
developers
there,
but
they
somehow
find
their
way
into
every
room,
but
they
were
silenced
and
there
was
a
gag
placed
on
them.
E
There
are
living
in
a
literal,
hellscape,
the
air
pollution
from
the
dust,
the
light
pollution,
the
sound
pollution
and
they
are
continuously
put
on
hold
in
the
best
case
scenario,
if
not
told
they
will
be
contacted
with
no
hope
of
resolution.
The
county
has
been
working
with
me
on
this,
but
because
it
was
given
by
right
and
because
a
loophole
existed,
they're
using
2200
West
for
side,
dumpers
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
out
there
I
hope
you
haven't.
If
you
haven't,
let's
go
together:
it
is
a
rural
road.
There's
no
curb.
E
There
is
no
gutter.
There
are
cracks
forming
in
my
constituents.
Walls
from
the
impact
I
am
trying
to
retrofit
and
retroactively
advocate
for
them
in
the
situation,
but
going
forward.
We
have
got
to
learn
the
lesson
that
we
didn't
on
that
and
protect
them
and
our
resources
out
there
now
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
care
about
the
wetlands
and
the
birds
and
all
of
those
things,
and
if
you
think
you
care
about
them
more
than
the
people
who
have
lived
among
them
for
up
to
60
years,
you
are
wrong.
E
I've
had
people
on
our
Facebook
page
mourning
that
they
saw
their
last
Sunset
to
the
West,
because
there's
now
a
sheet
of
concrete
erected
in
front
of
them.
It
is
not
that
we
are
disregarding
environmentalism.
It
is
that
we
are
centering
and
in
an
environmental
justice
lens
centering
the
people
who
live
out
there
in
convening
all
of
the
constituents.
We
found
that
those
who
want
to
sell
agree
that
those
who
want
to
stay
should
not
be
left
with
a
hellscape
even
worse
than
what
they're
dealing
with
a
warehouse.
District
can't
be
what
they
are
given.
E
18
wheelers
constantly
is
not
what
they
should
be
given.
Those
who
want
to
stay
agree
that
those
who
want
to
sell
should
be
able
to
sell
to
those
who
want
to
buy
them
by
and
large,
it's
commercial
developers
historically.
You've
heard
me
advocate
for
M1,
mostly
because
Business
Park
is
a
nonsensical
Zone
that
needs
to
be
abolished
from
our
code
because
it
no
longer
works
for
us,
but
the
truth
is
we
don't
have
the
zone
that
we
need
for
this.
There
are
innovators
who
have
spoken
to
the
people
who
will
be
left
behind.
E
Who
can
do
things
like
research
Parks?
Who
can
do
things
that
will
allow
those
who
want
to
sell
to
get
the
commercial
dollar
without
destroying
the
existence
of
those
who
are
left
behind
everyone
in
the
room
agreed,
and
the
reason
this
is
on
the
agenda
is
because
they
all
agreed
the
neighbors
want
to
see
this
small
area
plan
pushed
forward.
We
want
a
universal,
a
zoning
on
everything
in
there.
E
This
gives
us
time
to
write
the
zone
that
actually
fits
what
we
want
there
things
that
featured
the
cluster
development,
the
preservation
Focus
that
focuses
on
allowing
those
who
want
to
remain
in
an
agricultural
lifestyle
to
preserve
that
as
much
as
possible
and
then
understanding
that
the
thatched
area
on
the
plan
still
is
subject
to
a
likely
reone
that
there
are
people
coming
in.
Who
will
eventually
have
a
different
use.
However,
that
use
won't
be
a
PM
2.5
spewing
truck
served.
E
Warehouse
I'm
asking
you
all
to
follow
my
lead,
please,
which
is
me
following
the
lead
of
my
constituents,
and
ask
for
this
to
completely
take
out
the
light
industrial
at
this
point
to
Zone
everything
a
with
the
acknowledgement
that
the
FED
area
that
Still
Remains
designated
as
transitional
on
the
plan
will
eventually
transition.
If
there
is
any
way
through
this
plan,
we
can
force
the
development
of
2900
West
immediately.
E
I
also
want
any
of
those
tools.
It
is
inhumane
what
my
constituents
are
living
with
out
there
and
it
cannot
be
unchecked.
It
cannot
continue
and
it
can
definitely
never
be
replicated
again.
That's
my
request
of
you.
We
don't
have
the
Zone
I'd
like
to
ask
planning
to
come
up
with
a
zone
that
reflects
what
we
actually
want
to
do
out
there
and
use
the
a
to
as
an
option
to
buy
us
some
time
while
we
get
that
together.
A
K
Yeah
just
comment:
I
think
Nick's
got
a
lot
of
policy
questions
that
it
would
be
nice
to
walk
through
because
there's
there's
so
many
different
layers
to
this
whole
process.
Thank
you
for
all
the
the
changes
to
the
small
area
plan
that
we
asked
for
for
the
stronger
languages
and
and
all
the
environmental
protocols
and
buffers
I
I,
think
I
really
like
the
plan,
it's
just
in
the
wrong
location.
K
K
But
yes,
I'm
still
concerned
with
the
the
water
I'm
still
concerned,
because
this
is
back
to
taking
care
of
our
people,
people
on
their
health
concern
about
the
air
quality,
the
mosquito
issues
that
you're
going
to
have
out
there,
the
Wetland
issues,
the
noise
pollution,
the
water,
the
light
pollution.
All
those
factors
really
weigh
on
me
in
this
area
and
I'm
I'm
strongly
looking
at.
K
E
K
Understood
understood,
that's
a
good
question.
That's
when
we
get
to
the
policy
side
of
the
house.
I
agree
there.
So
and
really
that's
my
comment
at
this
point
because
I
have
another
comments
when
we
get
to
the
policy
questions
as
we
move
forward,
but
thank
you
for
all
the
work
on
the
plan.
I
just
I
wish
we
had
a
better
location
but
I'm
still
concerned
about
all
the
things
I
just
mentioned
so
appreciate.
A
It
I
have
a
specific
question
about
your
proposal,
you're
saying
so
you're
asking
for
the
stationary
or
the
not
stationary
plan.
There's
no
station.
This,
that's
part
of
the
problem,
the
small
point,
the
North
Point
small
area
plan
to
be
changed
to
so
the
that
we're
not
changing
zoning.
With
this
we're
we're
saying
what
potential
future
zoning
is
appropriate.
You
want
the
entirety
of
the
plan
to
be
a.
E
Anything
that's
up
for
grabs
anything
that
people
will
sell,
that
potentially
commercial
developers
will
buy.
They
I
want
I
want
the
opportunity
to
have
a
development
agreement
with
every
last
one
of
them.
It
is
the
wild
west
out
there,
and
we've
proven
that.
We
cannot
just
trust
that
what
is
best
for
the
community
will
happen.
We
need
multiple
layers
of
protection.
A
G
Council
Wharton:
this
is
in
response
to
the
question
number
one
bullet
point:
fiveish
I,
don't
know
it's
about
the
the
the
residents
who
have
encouraged
us
to
join
Salt,
Lake
County
in
a
shoreline
Heritage
Trail
area.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
can't
adopt
this
plan
and
still
move
forward
on
the
areas
that
would
be
eligible
that
are
not
already
constrained
by
right
to
continue
something
substantially
similar
to
this
Shoreline
Trail
am
I
missing
something
there
like.
Why
would
we
have
to
delay
this
further
in
order
to
have
a
shoreline
Heritage.
M
E
I'm
going
to
Advocate
if
it
takes
even
a
day
longer
I,
it
is
too
much
my
constituents
are
asking
for
protections
if
we
need
to
retrofit
I'm
in
it's,
not
that
I'm,
not
in
support
of
this.
It's
that
my
constituents
are
living
in
a
hellscape
and
they
are
I'm
protecting
the
environment
for
them.
That's
why
I
care
about
the
environment
because
it
allows
humans
to
live
here.
The
environment
will
be
fine.
When
we
go
extinct,
it
has
survived
other
Extinction
events,
I
care
about
the
people
who
have
to
live
in
the
environment.
G
I
To
be
completely
honest,
there
are
parts
of
the
plan
that
would
make
that
difficult
due
to
the
intentions
of
the
property
owners.
From
what
we've
understood,
the
the
maps
that
we've
seen
of
the
proposed
Shoreline
Heritage
area
would
include
some
of
the
areas
that
we
expect
to
be
interested
in
annexing
into
the
city
for
this
future
development,
and
so
that
there
would
be
some
type
of
conflict
there,
but
it
the
discussion
can
be
had
going
forward.
A
Okay,
but
council,
member
Petro's
suggestion
is
that
we
bring
all
of
those
the
areas
that
are
in
question
that
don't
have
by
right
business,
partk
zoning
already
right
and
are
not
already
part
of
the
city
come
in
as
agricultural
with
the
the
designation
as
agricultural
zoning,
which
means
that
that's
the
least
intensity
that
would
be
reasonable
is
what
they
can
already
do
through
the
County
zoning
right
now.
Right.
G
A
L
A
Gosh,
okay,
so
just
so
I'm
clear
on
what
is
proposed.
The
majority
of
the
plan
like
what
it
specifically
and
maybe
we
need
staff
to
take
some
time
to
figure
out
what
what
might
be
able
to
be
changed
but
I'm.
What
I'm
hearing
is
is
that
the
part
that's
considered
transitional
the
gray
and
yellow
cross-hatched
area,
we're
going
to
make
some
amendments
to
the
language
of
the
plan
that
says
yes,
we
know
that
future
development
will
be
there,
but
the,
but
none
of
the
zones
that
we
currently
have
are
appropriate
for
it.
A
E
There's
been
conversation
about
clustered
low
density,
residential
there's
been
talk
about
Innovation
and
research
parks
that
employ
Flex
space.
There
been
a
couple
different
ideas
floated
the
primary
land
owner
has
gone
through.
Quite
a
few
Visions
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
original
vision
of
high
density
is
not
at
all
acceptable
and
The.
Other
Extreme
of
nothing
but
truck
served.
Warehouses
has
also
been
very
clearly
communicated
that
it's
not
a
possibility.
K
K
Mr,
chair
and
I
I
appreciate
Council
M,
warton's
comments
about
the
store
line
and
the
a
side
of
the
house
and
I
appreciate
moving
it
to
the
a.
But
when
we
have
the
language
that
future
development
is
a
possibility
out
there,
people
hear
that
as
future
development
is
going
to
happen
and
that's
what
concerns
me,
leaving
it
as
a
leaving
it,
as
maybe
even
some
low
residential
is
somewhat
okay
with
me,
but
going
to
anything
else
beyond
that.
I'm
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
on
the
environmental
side
of
the
house.
K
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
on
the
city
side
of
the
house,
for
the
infrastructure
cost
and
everything
else
we're
putting
we're
asking
for
development,
we're
asking
for
density
in
an
area
that
doesn't
really
suit
it.
We
have
a
plenty
of
other
areas,
south
of
I80,
and
you
know
to
the
Southwest
there
that
could
possibly
do
that,
but
this
area
is
very
sensitive
to
the
whole
ecosystem
and
the
Heart
of
our
wasach
front
and
our
state
and
that's
great
Salt
Lake.
K
And
so,
if
we
start
messing
with
that,
we're
going
to
be
in
a
whole
lot
of
trouble
and
we
will
be
in
extinct
and
we
well
at
least
no
one
will
be
living
here.
We
may
be
just
living
somewhere
else.
So
that's
that's
my
concern.
If
we
give
we
have
that
opening
that
says.
Oh,
we
we're
going
to
look
at
it,
but
we're
going
to
have
development.
Then
development
is
going
to
happen
happen
because
there's
already
the
door's
already
open
and
that
that
is
my
concern.
E
N
E
We
have
a
million
square
foot
warehouse
and
wolves
and
vultures
circling
over
the
heads
of
my
neighbors.
We
have
got
to
make
beauty
from
ashes
and
stop
with
this
perfect
idea
of
what
can
happen
out
here.
We
have
got
to
prot
protect
the
people
who
live
there.
It
is
my
constituent
drying
her
eyes
in
the
audience,
listening
to
her
fate
being
decided
by
people
who
hypothetically
want
to
preserve
one
more
thing
in
a
more
ideal
way.
E
F
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
little
bit
about
this.
Obviously
this
is
there's
a
lot
of
emotion
from
all
of
us
about
this
issue,
because
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
lot
for
a
long
time,
and
you
know
there
is
there's
a
lot
of.
There
is
a
lot
of
discussions
about
this.
There's
a
lot
of
neighbor
input.
F
There
is
a
lot
of
work
from
the
administration
to
come
up
with,
with
a
with
a
plan
that
works
for
all
of
this,
this
interest
and
when
I'm
talking
about
interest
I'm
talking
about
the
neighbors
I'm
talking
about
the
land
owners
too
right
like
something
that
we
need
to
not
forget
is
that
there
is
a
pieace
that
select
City
doesn't
control
and
what
a
private
landowner
does
with
their
land.
As
far
as
the
zoning
is
concerned,
you
know
they
can
do
right,
and
we
know
this
from.
F
F
The
growth
is
happening
all
all
around
us,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
you
know
I,
don't
know
what
I'm
trying
to
go
with
this,
but
but
what
I'm
saying
is,
let's
I
think
we
need
to.
In
my
opinion-
and
you
know,
hearing
about
this
debate.
Sometimes
the
pits
the
environment
against
the
neighbors
of
the
West
Side
is
sometimes
I'm
not
going
to
just
bit
around.
The
bushes
is
infuriating
to
me,
because
what
did
you.
F
Because
my
neighbors
are
looking
for
to
put
a
place
food
on
their
in
their
houses,
they're
are
putting
they're
they're
fighting
against
the
the
forces
of
gentrification
they're
they're
fighting
against.
You
know,
trying
to
get
high
quality
jobs
every
day
and
not
that
they
don't
care
about
the
birds
or
the
air
quality
that
they
breathe
and
the
we
all
breathe
we
they
do,
but
the
in
the
hierarchy
of
needs.
Unfortunately,
it
comes
when
we
solve
these
issues.
F
First,
then
we
have
more
time
to
to
think
about
the
other
important
issues
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
are
not
important.
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
remember
that
that
first
aspect
and
I
hope
that
this,
the
this
community
Rises
up
with
the
same
passion
to
fight
for
the
great
s
Lake
and
to
fight
for
the
air
quality
for
the
same
with
the
same
passion
to
fight
for
the
Neighbors
of
the
West
side
that
live
the
closest
to
this
and
all
the
sudden.
F
We
remember
about
the
Neighbors
when
we're
were
talking
about
the
Great
salth
Lake,
but
the
the
neighbors
of
the
West
Side
been
breathing
this
air,
the
worst
air
in
the
state
for
decades,
and
we've
been
breathing
it
for
for
a
long
time.
So
I
hope
that
we
remember
about
my
neighbors,
not
only
when
we
are
talking
about
the
the
Great
South
Lake.
We
remember
about
them
every
day,
so
I
I
tend
to
I.
You
know
this
is
a
very
complex
issue.
F
I
I
tend
to
site
with
you
know
on
this
issue
with
council
member
Petro
it
it
is
not.
None
of
this
is
ideal.
The
city
over
the
years
missed,
missed
the
mark
and
now
we're
trying
to
go
backwards
and
try
to
fix
things.
So
again,
none
of
these
things
are
ideal,
but
we
also
need
to
remember
that
there
is
a
aspect
there
that
is
privately
owned
and
that
we
cannot
really
control,
and
some
people
in
the
community
might
think
that
cic
city
is
forcing
development
there.
Cic
city
is
the
force
the
driving
force.
F
A
Scott,
can
we
go
back
to
the
map
of
what
it
currently
what
parts
are
currently
in
the
city
and
what
are
what
they're,
what
are
not,
and
what
they're
currently
zoned
as
the
one
just
before
sorry,
this
one?
Yes
thank
you,
oh
I,
do
need
the
one
before
it
so
I
I
need
both
of
them,
but
okay.
So
this
map,
right
here
yellow,
is
not
part
of
our
city.
Right
now,
blue
is
part
of
our
city.
So
now
Scott
go
forward.
A
One
slide,
please,
the
parts
that
are
not
in
our
city
are
zoned,
as
agricultural
Salt,
Lake,
County
EG
to
right
so,
and
that
does
allow
some
residential
if
I'm
understanding
it
correctly.
So
there's
already
development
rights
there
right
now.
We
as
a
city
have
no
control
over
anything
that
happens
there,
except
for
the
airport
part
because
we
own
it,
but
we
have
no
control
over
any
of
the
others,
because,
as
councel
pu
said,
they're
privately
owned
and
they
have
byright
development
granted
it's
Agricultural
Development
with
which
does
allow
housing.
A
A
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
and
we
should
not
Annex
unless
we
have
a
plan
that
we
that
I
don't
even
know
if
we
legally
can,
but
we
should
not
Annex
land
into
the
city
with
no
plan
for
what
what
should
happen
on
the
future
land
use
of
that
I.
Don't
in
this
case
we
certainly
should
not.
So
we
need
to
adopt
some
sort
of
plan
if
we
want
to
Annex
the
only
way
to
have
any
control
over.
This
is
to
Annex
what
council
Petro
is
saying.
A
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
Annex
it,
but
the
plan
says
it's
only
the
a
2
that
is
currently
allowed,
and
that
seems
to
me
like
that,
would
preserve
the
most
options.
Although
I
do
believe
that
the
the
suggestion
about
we
there
has
to
be
some
acknowledgement
that
some
future
Zone
would
be
created.
That
allows
something
that's
more,
that
that's
more
amendable
to
the
neighbors
to
all
of
the
constituents
that
doesn't
currently
exist.
I,
don't
think
without
that
piece
of
yes,
something
will
happen.
A
The
only
thing
that
we're
current
that
we
currently
have
written
that
is
appropriate
is
a
to,
but
we
acknowledge
that
we
need
to
make
a
new
tool
so
that
something
can
happen.
That's
not
business
park,
but
it
is
better
but
it,
but
it
still
accomplishes
at
least
some
of
the
goals
of
the
current
land
use
land
owners,
without
that
they
I.
If
I
were
that
land
owner
I
would
protest
and
not
come
into
the
city,
in
which
case
we
still
maintain
no
control.
E
All
the
work
we'll
do
out
there
is
to
go
with
a
preserve
our
options
so
that
we
can
create
what
actually
works
out
there
and
move
forward
in
a
strategic
manner
that
allows
us
to
make
sure
everyone
who
sets
foot
in
there
is
going
to
honor
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
do
out
there.
Unlike
what
they're
living
with
right
now.
A
And
to
council
member
Wharton's
point
that
doesn't
mean
we
stop
pursuing
the
shoreline
Heritage
plan
and
we
stop
engaging
with
that
those
constituents
we
stop
figuring
out.
What
that
tool
can
be
doesn't
mean
mean
we
say:
transfer
of
development
rights
is
off
the
table.
We
continue
looking
at
those
things
and
what
they
might
look
like,
but
we
move
forward
with
a
master
plan
that
preserves
the
most
options
and
allows
us
to
Annex
in
and
I.
Think.
A
That's
to
me,
that's
what
I
think
Council
M
Petro
is
proposing
and
I
agree
that
that
I
think
that
would
it
I
didn't.
This
has
been
I,
don't
even
know
if
Chris
Council
Wharton
was
on
the
council
when
this
thing
started,
but
it
certainly
predates
a
super
majority
of
the
council
when
this
was
started,
and
so
I
would
like
to
move
forward
with
something
so
that
we
can
have
a
path.
K
A
It
I
think
it's
also.
Do
he
CH
one?
That's
not
entirely
true,
because
the
counties,
act2
and
rag
2
are
not
the
same
thing
right.
They
have
a
totally
different
code,
so
they
may
have
an
A2
Zone
zing
and
we
may
have
an
A2
zoning,
but
they
mean
different
things,
but
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
that's
probably
the
closest
to
what
they
currently.
K
I
think
they
have
an
A2
and
an
a
five
being
2
acres
and
5
Acres
on
some
of
their
differences,
but
either
way
it's
it's
to
me,
that's
understood,
but
because
of
course,
if
you
have
a
you're
can
to
have
some
someone's
going
to
live
on
that
property,
so
understand
that
part.
So
at
this
moment
I
think
I'm
open
to
that
idea.
My
question
is:
changing
you
use
the
word.
The
word
would
be
rezoned
and
I
think
it
should
be
more
like
could
be
rezoned
because
would
be
rezoned.
K
Is
that
you,
you
will
be
doing
some
type
of
rezoning
and
I
would
like
to
leave
it
more
as
it
could
be
rezoned
because
I
want
to
have
if
we're
going
to
rezone
the
things
I'm
G
to
I'm,
going
to
be
adamant
on
what
that
means
and
how
that
goes
forward
because
I
I
don't
mind
the
I
think
the
a
is
great
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
do
it.
If
you
can't
get
open
space,
then
act
to's.
The
the
next
best
thing.
K
K
Correct
I'
like
to
see
how
the
language
is
written
because
I
go
back
to
Chrissy's
point
about
it.
Small
area
plans
are
advisory
in
nature
and
which
always
again,
I
look
back
in
some
developments
where
the
advisory
in
and
and
the
developer
says,
yeah
I'm
going
to
put
solar
panels
on
I'm,
going
to
have
per
sidewalks
I'm
going
to
have
all
this
natural
grassing
and
they
go
well.
K
A
Council
members
we're
a
little
overtime
on
this
and
we
do
have
Wayne
from
the
state
Wayne
euser
here
from
the
state.
I
don't
want
to
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
his
time.
Do
we
have
any
more
questions
before
we
move
on
seeing
none?
Let's
move
to
item
number
three
on
our
agenda,
which
is
a
presentation
on
homelessness.
We've
invited
Wayne
neuser
the
state
of
Utah's
homelessness
services
coordinator
to
come
to
the
city,
so
a
representative
of
the
state
here
to
talk
about
the
states
work
on
homelessness.
Thank
you.
A
You've
undertaken
it
with
passion
and
and
with
an
understanding
of
how
the
states,
processes,
work
and
and
I
I
think
you've
at
least
at
least
I
as
a
represent
of
the
city
feel
like
we
have
a
better
relationship
with
the
state
than
I
can
remember
on
this
issue
and
we're
collaborating
and
we're
actually
working
together
on
things.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
the
work
you're
doing
I
believe
you
have
some
slides
to
start
with
right.
N
G
N
Great
data,
that's
on
there
that
helps
inform
where
we're
at
where
we
need
to
go.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
to
the
city
council
for
being
interested
in
these
issues.
It's
a
big
issue
Statewide,
not
just
in
Salt
Lake
City
and
the
numbers
I'm
going
to
talk
about
are
Statewide,
but
if
you
want
to
get
an
idea
how
they
relate
to
Salt
Lake
County,
because
we
should
look
at
homelessness
on
a
more
Regional
basis.
N
That's
why
I
always
talk
about
it
in
the
in
a
county
way,
because
sometimes
it
ends
up
in
the
central
cities
like
Ogden
Salt,
Lake,
St
George,
but
it
is
a
Statewide
problem,
countywide
problem
and
more
of
a
regional
problem,
two3
about
two-thirds
of
the.
If
you
take
about
two-thirds
of
these
numbers,
that's
about
what
Salt,
Lake
County
numbers
are
and
if
you'd
like
more
detail
on
the
county
numbers
we
have
on
our
website,
State
homeless
office.
N
We
have
our
2023
data
report
that
reports
on
all
the
data
you
want
to
see
for
2022.
So
next
slide.
The
state
is
for
your
information,
divided
up
into
13
local
hom,
homeless
councils.
You
can
see
those
councils
there,
Salt
Lake
is
their
own
homeless,
Council
and,
like
I've,
said
many
many
times
being
having
a
real
estate
background.
The
most
important
thing
to
a
to
real
estate
is
location,
location,
location.
N
Most
important
thing
we
can
do
in
homelessness
is
coordinate,
coordinate
and
coordinate,
and
we're
doing
that
so
much
better.
Since
the
office
of
homeless
Services
was
created,
go
to
the
next
slide.
Now
I'm
going
to
focus
my
brief
presentation
on
this
and
most
of
the
the
slides
that
follow
relate
to
this
diagram
of
where
we're
at
where
we
need
to
go
with
homeless
services
in
the
state.
Now
you
can
go
and
look
at
this
on
on
your
own,
but
there
are
three
basic
or
three
major
contributors
to
homelessness.
N
There's
systems,
life
events,
housing
in
security
we've
listed
some
some
subpopulations
that
contributed
to
homelessness.
You
can
see
those
in
in
slides
subsequent
to
this
one,
but
we
have
people
in
every
community
that
end
up
in
homelessness
and
whether
that's
coming
re-entry
from
incarceration,
whether
it's
you're
a
youth
in
the
foster
care
system.
25%
of
those
youth
end
up
in
homelessness.
We
can
go.
N
We
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
what
contributes
to
homelessness,
and
the
best
thing
we
can
do
right
now
is
in
the
green
box,
prevent
it,
because,
once
someone
crosses
that
bar
of
homelessness,
it
becomes
much
more
difficult
and
much
more
expensive.
You
have
to
go
Upstream
to
better
address
homelessness
and
try
to
prevent
it
in
the
first
place,
complicated
difficult
it
will
take.
Some
policy
changes
some
funding,
but
that's
where
I'd
like
to
see
us
focus
more
going
forward
now
when
somebody
does
cross
homelessness.
N
The
data
shows
that
8700
people
in
Utah
experienced
homelessness
for
the
first
time
in
20,
22
8,700
people
it's
a
lot.
Fortunately,
most
of
those
people
are
what
we
call
transitional,
it's
probably
their
first
time
and
it's
short
term
for
them.
It
usually
happens
because
of
a
life
event.
Can't
pay
your
health
bills
got
on
Hard
Times
got
evicted,
got
a
your
house
housing
for
a
closed
on
on
you're
in
homelessness,
but
they're
they
have
some
safety
nets,
family
and
other
people.
N
Our
systems
are
working
for
people
in
that
situation
and
they
get
out,
and
we
know
this
28,400
people
touched
homeless,
Services
somewhere
in
the
state
in
2022,
but
when
we
did
our
point
and
time
count,
we
counted
30
700
people.
What
happened
to
the
25,000?
There's
a
transitional
population
that
get
into
homelessness
and
either
through
self-resolution
or
system
support
they
get
out
of
they're
back
into
housing
fairly
quickly.
The
shelter
data
will
also
back
that
up.
The
shelter
data
shows
that
77%
of
the
people
that
come
come
into
shelter.
N
Are
there
less
than
90
days.
34%?
Are
there
less
than
seven
days,
so
the
the
shelter
is
a
temporary
place
for
people
that
fall
on
hard
times
that
cross
that
bar
of
homelessness,
but
the
whole
system
was
intended
for
that
to
only
be
a
temporary
place
for
people
until
we
find
housing
and
services
for
them.
N
N
The
purpose
of
shelter
is,
is
an
emergency
situation
to
get
people
into
a
sheltered
situation
and
resource
those
individuals
and
families.
That's
the
way
the
system
should
work,
so
we
can
transitional
again.
I
would
like
to
see
us
try
even
imp,
prevent
transitional.
Then
we
also
have
what
is
called
a
more
persistent
homeless
population,
and
this
is
what
we
see
mostly
and
what
we
hear
about
is
this
persistent
homeless
population
episodic
chronic?
N
Those
are
some
pop
subpopulations
and
when
I
talk
about
persistent
homelessness,
it's
my
time
working
on
the
streets
with
the
homeless
population.
That
is
informed.
What
I'm
going
to
tell
you
most
of
the
people,
I
see
that
are
in
this
population,
they've
been
in
housing
multiple
times,
they've
been
in
treatment
multiple
times
and
they're
having
multiple
incidents
or
with
with
the
the
criminal
justice
system
and
I
think
we
all
know
that.
N
So
you
know
we
can't
set
transitional
aside,
but
our
most
difficult
situ,
our
most
difficult
population
is
the
persistent
now
in
that
I'm
going
to
divide
it
into
two
populations.
Those
who
are
ready
to
get
into
housing
and
treatment
and
those
who
are
not
those
who
are
ready,
let's
get
them
in,
let's
get
them
housed.
The
point
is
a
good
example
out
on
North
Temple
of
getting
a
more
aged
population.
N
It
was
they
deal
with
the
subpopulation
okay,
but
they're
a
model
of
getting
that
housing
on
the
ground
and
then
getting
people
into
that
housing
out
of
the
shelters
off
the
street
into
housing,
people
that
are
there,
you
walk
in
there.
If
you
haven't
very
stable
it's
when
you
have
a
co-occurring
issue
like
mental
illness.
It's
things
like
Denver,
Street,
Central
City,
the
Theodora
I
are
awesome
about
how,
when
you
see
what
they
do
for
individuals
and
yeah,
mainly
individuals
getting
them
off
the
street
out
of
the
shelter
and
their
lives
stabilized.
N
N
Ready
we
just
need
to
get
people
in
housing,
but
the
key
part
of
we
just
can't
put
them
into
any
housing.
You
have
to
match
the
person's
situation
with
the
housing
and
housing
and
support
go
together.
Some
individuals
are
going
to
need
High
support
to
stay
into
housing,
High
Services,
some
are
going
to
need
to
have
low
I
was
in
a
city
over
a
year
ago,
and
and
they
were
complaining
about
an
individual
in
their
City,
was
in
Salt
Lake.
N
That
was
giving
them
a
lot
of
problems,
and
was
you
know
been
in
homelessness,
was
probably
going
to
end
up
in
homelessness
again,
because
the
the
facility
that
this
person
was
in
had
no
support.
I
said
you
got
her.
You
got
this
person
in
the
wrong
housing.
We
got,
we
got
the
person
housed,
but
how
are
we
going
to
keep
them
housed?
N
You
got
to
match
the
housing
and
the
services
with
the
needs
of
the
individual,
so
so
those
who
are
not
ready
for
housing
and
services,
or
at
least
they
showing
some
elements
of
resistance.
That's
a
complicated
issue,
because
the
systems
haven't
worked
very
well
for
them.
In
the
past-
and
they
don't
trust,
I
think
there
was
more
trust.
They
probably
want
to
they'd,
be
in
the
more
ready
mode
and
so
systemically
the
we
have
not
treated
these
individuals
too
well
in
the
past,
and
so
that's
made
it
more
difficult.
N
This
is
unsanctioned
camping,
which
I'll,
which
I
say,
is
the
worst
condition
that
we
can
accept
as
society
and
why
people
are
living
in
places
unfit
for
human
habitation.
There
is
sanitation
and
health
issues
Criminal
and
victimization
it's
against
our
ordinances
and
laws,
no
camping
and
it
conflicts
with
the
general
public.
So
you
know
it's
the
worst
thing
that
we
can
accept.
How
do
we
deal
with
that?
There's
always
crime
involved.
With
that
U
you've
probably
heard
about
the
sequential
intercept
model.
N
There
was
a
few
of
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
from
the
city
council,
councilman
Dugan
was
there,
we
call
it
the
Miami
model,
it's
not
the
Miami
model,
it's
the
sequential
intercept
model
and
Miami
has
taken
it
or
Dade.
County
has
taken
that
model
and
implemented
it
with
some
Fidelity
and
are
having
some
tremendous
Success.
With
It
courts
have
to
be
involved.
The
whole
criminal
justice
system
has
to
be
committed
that
and
resourced
for
it
to
happen.
N
So
that's
something
that
needs
to
happen.
That's
a
gap
that
needs
to
be
filled
and
it's
a
it's.
A
system
of
diversion
and
I'll
give
you
an
example.
The
office
full
of
services
in
this
is
in
the
only
Walker
building
over
here
on
third
South
140
East,
an
individual
came,
walking
up
the
street
homeless
last
year
and
picked
up
a
rock
in
front
of
the
of
the
Hebrew
Wells
Building
and
kind
of
beelined
it
over
to
the
he
over
to
the
oan
Walker
building
and
through
the
rock
through
a
big
window.
N
Well,
our
security
guard
took
off
after
this
individual
immobilized
him
called
the
police.
Please
come,
why
did
you
throw
the
rock
through
the
window?
Well,
that's
my
building
I'll
do
whatever
I
want
with
that
building,
obviously
not
regulated,
maybe
having
some
Mental,
Health
or
or
some
drug
addic
addiction
issues.
What
typically
happens?
I
don't
know
exactly,
but
what
typically
happens
that
individual
is
taken
to
the
jail?
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
severe
crime
booked
and
given
a
date
to
come
back
to
Court.
N
This
individual
doesn't
even
know
what
day
it
is
they're
not
coming
back
to
court.
What
the
sequential
inter
model
would
inform
us
to
do
is
to
divert
that
person
to
services
and
and
that's
what
we
need
to
address
if
we're
really
going
to
get
a
handle
on
unsanctioned,
camping
and
crime.
Of
course,
sub
substance
abuse
mental
health
issues,
mental.
N
He
health
issues
are
pervasive
and
again
we
have
a
Continuum
of
of
Health
for
and
housing
for,
for
those
that
have
severe
persistent
mental
illness
on
one
end
of
that,
Continuum
is
the
state
hospital,
the
other
end
of
that
continuous,
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
Some
will
move
on,
but
a
lot
of
people
will
will
be
in
that
for
probably
the
rest
of
their
lives.
But
if
they're
in
a
place
like
Central
City
in
Denver,
Street
there's
a
quality
of
life,
they
might
even
be
working
and
and
doing
a
lot
of
things.
N
That's
where
that's
what
we
need
to
get
to
you
know
helping
people
thrive
to
the
best
of
their
ability,
while
the
state
finished
their
state
plan
on
homelessness,
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
it
or
you've
heard
of
it.
That
is
also
on
on
our
website.
There
are
three
documents:
one
of
the
documents
is
data.
Another
document
is
the
actual
plan
and
then
there's
some
implementation
ideas
that
the
Homebase,
who
was
our
who
is
our
consultant,
helped
us
craft.
N
Now,
if
you
look
at
that,
the
implementation
is
really
up
to
us
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
what's
in
that
plan,
but
there
are
some
good
ideas
as
far
as
implementation,
but
if
we're
to
really
focus
on
what
the
gaps
are,
it's
how
we're
dealing
with
this?
It's
it's
diversion.
It's
providing
the
resources
having
the
resources
out
there
for
housing
and
for
services.
N
Our
office
has
worked
hard
on
housing
over
the
last
couple
years
with
the
legislature
and
over
the
last
two
years
we
got
a
combined
$110
million
to
put
in
deeply
affordable
housing
and
we've
gone
through
the
grant
process.
These
are
projects
that
are
not
only
housing
but
have
to
have
a
service
plan
with
it,
because
we
recognize
that
housing
and
services
go
together.
N
One
does
not
work
without
the
other,
so
couple
things
we're
working
on
a
little
more
trauma,
inform
model
of
of
shelter,
that's
more
a
more
non-,
congregate,
shelter
and
what
we're
doing
with
that?
Just
for
your
information
you
might
already
be
aware
of
it
is
what
we've
seen
our
office
has
seen
in
in
Reno
and
also
in
Austin.
N
What
I
call
Shelter
units
that
have
a
heating
and
cooling
place,
but
they're
individual
units
they're
about
an
8,
by9
they're,
a
shelter
they
they're
they're,
not
a
tent,
where
you
know
if
somebody
gets
cold,
they're
looking
for
shelter,
these
are
actual
shelters,
they're,
heated
and
cooled.
It's
a
it's
a
good
spring
board
into
services
that
situation,
people
get
stabilized.
My
biggest
the
biggest
contributor
to
this,
for
me,
was
the
esparanza
model
down
in
Texas
at
Austin
once
was
a
sanctioned
camping
spot
turned
into
a
mini
shelter.
N
The
difference
between
the
two
it
was
I
was
there
before
and
after
amazing
difference.
So
that's
a
focus
that
we're
working
on
when
I'm
out
on
Street
everybody
I
meet
is
on
the
spectrum
of
mental
health,
either
with
severe
and
persistent
mental
illness
or
high
anxiety.
First
thing
we
ask
them
to
do
is
come
and
sleep
in
a
room
with
50
people.
There's
a
lot
of
reason
why
they
don't
want
to
do
that.
N
It's
not
that
our
shelters
aren't
safe,
but
they
don't
feel
safe
and-
and
so
we've
got
to
look
at
some
different
models
to
to
get
people
off
the
street
non
concrete
is
Focus
that
we
want
to
look
at
in
our
plan
with
that.
I'll
just
leave
it
with
that
leave
you
with
all
the
other
information
there
and
and
offer
our
assistance
for
the
city
council
to
reach
out
to
me
or
our
office
for
any
other
things
that
you
need
any
other
data
that
you
would
like
to.
A
A
A
Think
of
the
spectrum
of
color,
and
we
have
like
words
like
green
and
blue
and
red
and
yellow,
but
there's
like
a
million
different
shades
of
green
and
I
speak
a
little
bit
of
Japanese
and
the
word
in
Japanese
that
we
would
consider
blue
actually
includes
most
of
what
in
English,
we
say
is
green
and
the
word
that
Japanese
in
Japanese
for
green
only
includes
very
specific
green.
That
like
grows
on
trees,
so
so
like
in
my
brain,
we're
doing
a
good
job
of
categorizing
I.
A
Don't
know
why
I'm
going
into
this
this
Theory
but
I.
Just
it's
a
long
way
of
saying.
Thank
you
for
remembering
that
everyone
is
different
and
I.
Think
for
so
many
years
we
have
as
a
state
as
a
community.
We've
said
well,
if
you're
experiencing
homelessness,
here's
the
one
option
you
can
use
and
it's
the
congregate,
shelter
and
and-
and
we
expect
you
all
to
be
able
to
that-
that
that
tool
will
work
for
all
of
you.
A
I'm
glad
that
we're
now
realizing
that
that
isn't
the
case,
we're
looking
at
tiny
home
Villages
we're
looking
at
non-
congregate,
shelters
and
I
just
appreciate
your
work
in
helping
us
fill
in
that
spectrum
of
resources
to
actually
respond
to
the
spectrum
of
the
human
condition
of
all
the
people
that
we
say,
experience,
homelessness,
which
are
vast
and
and
and
varied.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
council
members
I'll
open
up
for
any
questions.
Question.
Oh
my
gosh.
Everyone
wants
to
I'm
going
to
go
with
the
council.
O
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
political
pressure
to
take
action
immediately,
because
the
needs
are
so
great
and
I'm
incredibly
grateful
that
you've
spent
the
time
that
you
have
meeting
with
all
of
the
different
entities
that
are
involved
in
this
space,
including
our
city,
to
be
able
to
have
a
more
thoughtful
and
long-term
plan,
as
opposed
to
something
that
would
have
been
a
quick
reaction,
but
maybe
not
the
best
solution,
long
term,
as
part
of
that
thanks
I,
do
have
a
question
related
to
the
long
term.
In
looking
at
the
budget.
O
N
So
the
commission
on
housing,
affordability
is
a
work,
is
I
call
it
a
work
group,
but
it's
a
an
official
group
under
the
ueo
I,
let's
not
get
into
all
that
it's
pretty
complicated,
but
it's
a
way
to
pursue
budget
and
policy
issues.
Commission
has
existed
for
quite
a
while
I
consider
it
the
work
group
to
deal
with
housing
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
come
around
to
your
question,
but.
N
Right
I
me
I'm,
giving
you
an
example
and
if
you've
heard
me
speak
before
you,
you've
heard
this,
but
the
states
with
the
highest
rate
of
homelessness,
California,
Hawaii
New
York
have
the
highest
cost
of
housing.
The
states
with
the
lowest
rate
of
housing
of
homelessness.
Let
me
go
back.
California's
44
per
10,000
Utah
is
11
per
10,000.
Mississippi
is
5
per
10,000.
N
And
there
are
38
million
people
in
California
Lots
lot
of
people
that
are
homeless.
Mississippi
has
the
lowest
rate
of
homelessness,
but
they
have
also
the
lowest
cost
of
housing.
If
you
look
at
the
Midwest
7even
per
10,000,
lowest
cost
of
housing,
when
we
look
at
prevention-
and
we
go
above
that-
we
have
to
deal
with
the
cost
of
housing,
people
are
crossing
the
line
of
homelessness
because
of
the
cost
of
housing,
but
the
State
I
used
to
be
be
in
the
legislature.
N
As
you
all
probably
know,
the
Senate
President
from
2013
through
2018,
we
didn't
deal
much
with
housing.
Our
ongoing
commitment
was
$3
million
as
a
state.
It's
become
I
think
a
top
three
issue
in
the
state.
We
have
to
continue
to
beat
this
drum
about
getting
more
grant
money.
When
you
look
at
the
housing
model
that
I
present
presented
it
in
I,
didn't
present
it
to
you.
N
It's
housing
and
services
go
together
and
let's
utilize
things
that
we
already
have
Medicaid
low-income
housing
tax
credit,
but
the
things
that
we
need
more
are
the
one-time,
Gap
funding.
That's
the
deeply
affordable
housing
grants
that
we
get.
That's
the
10.
You
mentioned
the
onetime
funds,
mostly
arpa,
but
this
last
year
we
got
$20
million
of
general
fund
one
time
and
then
the
ongoing
commitment,
though
they
we
got
$5
million
for
rent
support
or
rent
vouchers.
N
So
to
speak,
because
if
I
can
project
base
those
vouchers,
it
will
enable
a
nonprofit
or
a
housing
developer
to
create
that
housing,
because
there's
a
cash
flow
for
the
rent.
Those
are
those
are
the
key
elements.
I'm
a
real
estate,
developer,
I
know
what
works.
I
know
what
doesn't
work
and
when
I
I
got
into
this
two
years
ago
and
a
few
months
first
thing
I
realized
is
this
housing
doesn't
pencil,
it
will
never
naturally
happen.
N
It
will
never
attract
the
capital
because
it's
a
it's
a
not
for
profit,
Venture,
not
a
profit
Venture,
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
support
it
for
it
to
exist.
So
thankfully
legislature
has
stepped
up,
even
if
it
was
federal
funds,
but
we
are
going
to
be
asking
for
another
$50
million
this
year.
One
time
we're
also
asking
for
$15
million
in
more
of
the
rent
support.
We
got
5
million.
N
Last
year
those
would
be
ongoing
funds
because
you
got
to
support
that
housing
project
for
at
least
15
years
with
that
rent
flow
or
or
it
just
won't
exist
and
then
combine
that
with
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit.
We
can
put
more
of
this
on
the
ground
and
we
need
to
focus
more
of
that
litech
on
the
deeply
affordable
housing.
So
those
are
the
key
elements
to
be
successful
with
housing
and
I
know
the
city,
also
probably
better
than
anybody
in
the
state
has
other
Le
items
other
levers.
N
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
me
up
housing,
just
one
question
that
you
said
deeply
affordable.
Can
you
talk
about
for
the
Public's
and
for
my
the
difference
between
deeply
affordable
and
deeply
affordable
with
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
and
how
much
do
you
see
in
your
experience?
Do
those
overlap
or
how
like
is
deeply
affordable,
always
permanent,
supportive
or
is
there
a
need
for
deeply
affordable
housing
that
is
just
affordable?
N
Yeah
it
does
when
you're
talking
about
30%
area,
imunity
income
and
Below,
it's
mostly
people
experiencing
homelessness
or
other
co-occurring
situations
like
mental
health
or
you
know,
because
not
all
people
that
experience
mental
health
and
other
issues
like
that
are
homeless,
but
need
that
kind
of
support.
So
it
isn't
just
homelessness,
but
it
would
be.
A
A
H
H
N
H
All
in
we
have
demonstrated
year
in
year,
I
mean
year
after
year,
our
commitment
to
housing
to
all
levels
of
housing.
We've
used
every
penny
that
we've
had
into
affordable
housing,
deeply,
affordable
housing,
I
think
it
stops
there
like
it's
all,
affordable
and
Below,
because
we
understand
the
housing
need
what
we
have
a
hard
time.
Sometimes
because
it's
beyond
our
responsibilities
and
a
statutory
responsibilities
is
the
mental
health
portion
and
if
I
had
that
power.
H
And
now
the
next
step
for
me
would
be
to
focus
as
well
on
the
mental
health
portion
of
this
issue
that
we
have,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
we
as
a
state
are
going
to
do
further
studies
or
further
implementation
of
mental
health
services,
including
the
providers,
because
we
know
we've
been
told
again
and
again.
We
have
some
money
you
know
for
for
the
providers
or
for
the
for
the
clinicians,
but
we
don't
have
the
clinicians.
H
So
we've
been
trying
to
be
creative
at
the
council,
say:
okay,
maybe
we
do
help
our
staff,
like
city
employees,
to
go
to
school
and
maybe
do
social
service
work
as
continuing
education,
but
perhaps
it's
not
our
position.
Maybe
we
do
need
to
partner
up
with
the
state,
I
mean
what
else
can
we
do
to
look
at
the
mental
health
issues?
To
me,
that's
the
biggest
elephant
in
the
room,
at
least
in
my
district.
H
Most
of
our
shelter
neighbors
are
mentally
ill,
have
some
sort
of
U
mental
illness,
whether
it
be
severe
or
not,
but
there
is
somewhere
there.
So
I
was
wondering
if
you
can
answer
that
and
then
the
second
one
was
how
far
along
are
we
with
the
the
sequential
intercept
model,
the
Miami
model?
Thank
you.
N
As
far
as
who
should
be
involved
in
this
effort
towards
a
better
mental
health
system,
it
really
is
that's
that's
where
the
county
plays
a
very
important
role,
because
that
they
get
funding
for
it,
they
are,
are
set
up
to
do
that.
I!
Don't
see
that
as
really
a
role
of
you
know,
primarily
as
I
don't
know
a
city
that
has
a
primary
role
with
that
that
in
that
space,
so
that's
where
we
need
to
partner
with
our
counties
counties
with
the
state.
It's
all
funding,
it's
policy.
N
It's
things
that
we
need
to
address,
like
you
know,
civil
commitment,
all
those
kind
of
policies.
We
need
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
and
put
into
place-
and
you
know
there
are
already
policies
in
place
and
and
they're
functioning
to
a
large
degree
but
I,
but
what
we
find
is
that
they,
just
it
isn't
sufficient.
So
the
county
under
Gene,
Hill
Now,
is
working
with
cjack
and
has
mapped
this
out.
What
what
resources
are
there,
where
the
gaps
are
I?
N
Don't
know
if
I
put
those
slides
in
there,
but
if
you
wanted
those
slides
happy
to
send
those
to
you
that
the
county
have
put
together,
because
we
gave
this
presentation
to
the
Economic
Development
Workforce
Service
committee
at
the
legislature
in
August,
and
we
wanted
to
give
a
the
whole
spectrum
of
of
the
issue.
So
there
a
lot
of
the
Sim
sequential
interet
model
is
already
in
place.
N
It's
just
not
resourced
enough
and
the
commitment
has
never
really
been
there
to
work
together
and
coordinate
U,
mainly
because
you
we're
going
to
need
the
resources
to
do
that.
So
I
think
there's
motivation.
That's
the
Judiciary
Committee
at
the
legislature.
They
have
a
work
group.
That's
working
on
this
I've
been
part
of
that.
Also
so
there's
interest
more
interest
than
we've.
We've
had
Governor
governor's
office
is
interested
in
this
there's
a
movement
of
ground.
H
G
And
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
just
have
two
questions
for
kind
of,
more
speaking
to
the
public
that
we
get
a
lot
of
criticism
that
that
it's
not
moving
fast
enough
change,
isn't
happening
fast
enough,
you're,
not
moving
quick
enough,
and
you
know
all
of
this
talk
of
Salt
Lake
City,
trying
to
be
aligned
with
the
county
and
with
the
state
is
taking
too
long,
and
it's
not
producing
any
results.
G
Can
you
kind
of
speak
to
that,
as
as
the
person
that
you
know
was
charged
with
coordinating
this
among
all
of
the
counties
and
all
of
the
cities,
and
you
I
would
look
at
that
and
say
you
know:
you've
only
been
on
the
job
two
years,
as
you
said,
but
other
people
would
say
it's
been
two
years
like.
Why
hasn't?
Why
hasn't
this
been
all
fixed?
By
now,
can
you
speak
to
that
perception
among
the
that
many
people
have
in
the
public.
N
N
Okay,
it
it's
relevant
data
in
that,
in
that
time
frame
we
created
804
units,
Statewide
of
permanent
supportive
house
housing
and
yes,
we
had
an
increase
in
chronic
homelessness,
but
between
2019
and
2022
we
created
45
units.
Now
there
there
was
some
other
units
that
were
created,
but
so
were
there
back
in
2012
and
2017,
because
not
everybody
reports,
our
effort
towards
supportive
housing
went
down
and
our
chronic
homeless
population
96%
increase
between
2019
and
2022
through
2022.
N
So
we
need
more
permanent
Supportive
Housing
that
doesn't
happen
overnight,
takes
took
me
a
year
to
get
$50
million
out
of
the
legislature
that
created
600
units
or
for
deeply
affordables
I
mean
and
actually
the
I
think
700
units
about
600
of
those
were
for
homelessness
for
that
population.
Kem,
Gardner
Institute
just
finished
their
report.
This
regarding
the
gaps,
the
indications
were
from
a
National
Organization
that
we
had.
We
were
minus
43,000
people,
affordable
units
in
the
state,
at
a
deficit,
they're
saying
it's
77,000,.
N
You
can
see
the
workforce,
housing
also
60
and
50%
people
in
that
are
probably
on
the
edge
of
homelessness
too.
So
you
know
all
those
numbers
are
relevant
and
they're
significant
numbers
and
and
just
getting
people
into
a
stable
housing
situation
is
so
critical
to
dealing
with
mental
health.
Substance
abuse
all
those,
even
if
it's
a
transitional
type
of
a
situation
with
the
proper
treatments
that
have
outcomes.
Those
are
the
things
that
need
to
be
focused
on,
but
yeah.
This
isn't
going
to
happen
overnight.
N
No,
we
didn't
get
into
it
overnight.
It's
going
to
take
some
time
to
get
out
it,
because
the
housing
takes
what
2
to
four
years
to
put
on
the
ground
for
on
kind
of
that
Long
play,
but
usually
it
takes
a
minimum
of
two
years
and
we've
got
to
stop
people
from
coming
into
homelessness
and
prevent
the
inflow.
G
N
Well,
we're
coordinating
services
that
that
are
performed,
housing
efforts,
criminal
justice,
City's
heavily
involved
in
criminal
justice.
This
is
most
of
the
people.
I
know
that
are
in
shelter
or
or
unsheltered
here
in
Salt,
Lake
County
across
the
state
or
having
incidents
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
coordination
of
that
effort
is
Paramount.
You
know,
if
we're
all
doing
our
own
one,
our
own
thing
we're
not
going
to
get
very
far
far.
We
need
to
be
coordinating
those
efforts
and
then,
of
course,
you're
involved
in
housing.
N
G
And
then
my
last
question
just
really
quickly
is
like
I
appreciate
you
mentioning
the
large
percentage
of
folks
that
transition
out
of
housing,
for
we
get
a
lot
of
questions
about.
What
are
we?
How
do
we
know
that?
The
that
the
programs
that
we
have
in
place
and
the
systems
that
we
have
in
place
are
producing
good
results
other
than
that
metric?
N
N
I'm
I
think
what
our
shelters
were
designed
was
an
emergency
place
for
people
to
go
then
to
move
on
to
other
resources
and
housing.
But
if
those
other
resources
are
there,
what
is
our
outcome
going
to
be
in
the
shelter?
It's
not
going
to
look
very
good
people
are
staying
there
longer
than
they
need
to
stay.
Stay
there
because
they're
not
moving
through
the
shelter
and
getting
out
of
shelter.
So
you
know
I,
think
the
outcome
of
shelter
is
that
we
get
people
in
there
and
they're
out
as
quick
as
possible.
N
That
statistic
of
how
long
you're
in
shelter
is
a
key
element
to
the
success
of
shelter,
the
shorter
you're
there,
the
better
off
you're,
going
to
be
as
a
family
as
an
individual,
the
longer
you're
there
you,
the
more
the
outcomes,
get
worse
so
and
and
what
should
be
the?
What
should
be
the
outcome
of
someone
like
Denver
Street?
When
you
go
there,
there
people
are
stabilized,
they
have
housing,
they
still
have
incidents,
but
it's
much
better
than
them
being
on
the
street.
I'
say:
that's
a
a
good
outcome.
N
K
Jen
appreciate
all
the
work.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
one
point
about.
You
know
the
The
Chronic
or
the
persistent
side
of
the
house,
and
you
had
it
the
you
know,
ready
for
ready
for
housing
and
you
had
the
and
the
the
issue
is
that
we
don't
have
the
housing
for
them
and
on
one
of
the
slides
here.
It's
the
chronic
homeless
and
permanent
support
of
housing
in
2023.
They
said,
there's
a
th4
that
were
chronic.
K
K
So
with
that
in
this
Salt
Lake
City,
we
have
switch
point
that
just
open
up.
We
have
another
vill
is
posted
to
open
up.
There's
the
sy's
MVP
program
is
opening
up,
there's
going
to
be
a
family
housing,
hopefully
soon
to
open
up
in
in
another
city
outside
of
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
another
I
think
another
perent
support
place
and
we
have
first
step.
Housing
is
doing
some
permanent
support
care.
K
Those
are
going
to
take
I'll
just
round
it
up
to
say:
400
people
off
and
I
would
assume
they
would
be
the
ones
that
are
ready
to
take
housing.
The
pment
support
size.
So
now
we're
we're
dropping
our
numbers
down,
but
is
there?
Is
there
any?
How
are
the
incentives
going
for
other
municipalities
to
provide
per
supportive
housings
outside
of
Salt
Lake
City
cuz?
My
my
concern
is
that
we
provide
the
services
for
them
and
then
just
someone
else
just
back
fills
on
our
streets
and
s's
doing
a
nice
job.
K
N
Yeah
and
that's
a
really
great
question,
so
we
began
some
of
that
effort
this
last
session
with
well.
It
was
the
session
before
with
house
B
440
requiring
oh
see,
yeah.
It
was
this
last
session
499.
It
now
requires
Davis
County
Utah
County
to
come
up
with
a
a
winter
overflow
plan.
So
it
isn't
all
the
way
right
right,
yeah,
but
we're
you
know
starting
to
discuss
that.
Yeah
people
end
up
homelessness
in
homelessness
in
your
community,
and
you
know
you
are
source
of
homelessness.
N
Are
you
just
letting
other
cities
handle
it
for
you
or
other
counties?
Or
are
you
doing
something
about
it?
You
know
everybody.
Everybody
needs
to
step
in
and
be
involved,
have
permanent
sportive
housing
in
their
communities.
If
you
know
when
they're
large
enough,
but
with
our
deeply
affordable
housing
grants
that
went
Statewide,
you
know,
and
20
million
of
that
was
in
counties
of
the
second
third
class,
and
we
had
like
8
million
of
it
go
to
rural
areas,
provide
the
more
permanent
Sprite
housing
there.
N
K
And
I
appreciate
that
we
had
Utah,
County
and
Davis
County,
going
to
be
required
by
I
think
it's
25
to
have
the
homeless
resource
center,
but
and
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
how
do
we
prod
them
harder
to
get
a
permanent
supportive
place
in
there
area?
You
know
that's
the
part
of
that.
Yes,
it's
nice
that
you're
going
to
open
up
your
eyes,
because
the
state
told
you
you
have
to
do
it.
How
do
we,
you
know
Brad
their
eyes,
open
more
on
the
perment
support
side
of
the
house.
N
And
the
legislature
has
fallen
short,
I
not
fallen
short,
but
they
they've
tried
to
incentivize,
but
hasn't
they
haven't
actually
said
you
have
to
provide
this
percentage
of
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
but
have
funded
what
we
got,
though
it
was
a
lot
of
federal
funds.
Hopefully
we
can
continue
with
State
funds,
or
at
least
in
part
that
will
help
create
that
in
these
other
other
communities,
but
you
know
obviously
Salt
Lake
has
been
a
big
right
source
of
that
housing
yeah.
Thank
you
by
the
way.
Thank
you.
Council.
A
F
Senator
Wayne
I,
you
know,
Neer
I
I,
really
appreciate
your
work,
I
mean
we
the
last
two
years.
It's
been
the
relationship
between
the
city
and
the
state
between
the
city
and
the
county,
and
regarding
this
issue,
in
my
opinion,
has
changed
significantly
and
I.
I
think
this
is
due
to
you
and
your
work.
F
When
we,
as
you
know,
we
don't
have
all
the
tools
or
and
all
the
money
and
all
the
power
to
do
all
these
things.
Our
ourselves,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
leadership
on
this
and
trying
to
bring
everybody
to
the
table.
And
while
you
haven't
gotten
everything
you
ask,
you
have
gotten
more
than
we
ever
gotten
on
this
issue.
F
You
you
got
the
legislature
to
to
put
a
lot
more
money
than
ever
on
this,
so
it's
it's
a
huge
win
in
my
opinion,
while
you
know
it's
incremental,
I
I
noticed
that,
while
will,
we
might
not
see
it
right
now
on
the
street.
Some
of
it
is,
but
we
might
not
see
it
completely.
It's
going
to
pay
off
and
I
I
just
cannot.
Thank
you
enough.
F
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
testify
in
some
of
the
bills
or
to
show
up
and
support
to
some
of
the
bills
being
in
the
audience
when
those
bills
are
being
discussed.
We
want
to
do
more.
Of
that.
We
want
to
be
more
active.
We
want
to
also
know
what
other,
how
how
can
you
see
us
help
you
with
your
job?
It's
not
an
easy
job,
I
know
and
in
our
city
in
our
city.
F
But
knowing
like
council
member
Manu
mentioned
that
we're
talking
about
humans,
it's
it's
very
important
and
I
appreciate
you,
you
leading
on
this
issue
and
helping
also
thanking
you
know:
Senator,
Ellison
and
Andre,
and
all
of
these
representative
and
all
of
them
for
leading
on
this,
and
thank
you
for
for
letting
us
know,
but
just
to
to
to
go
back
to
a
little
more
about
the
specifics.
I
remember,
and
today
they
came
up
on
one
of
the
meetings
we
our
you
know
the
this.
F
The
the
administration
here
gives
us
a
report,
every
council
meeting
about
this,
the
status
of
the
shelters
and
how
you
know
the
programs
that
are
happening,
and
it's
almost
a
report
about
what
the
city
is
doing
with
the
limited
resources
we
have
also
what
the
county
and
the
state
is
doing,
and
the
status
of
the
shelters
as
far
as
how
full
they
are,
and
the
shelter
today.
As
far
as
the
report
comes
came
out,
is
very
busy
right.
F
It's
it's
almost
full
I
mean
it
arguably
is
completely
full
and
the
the
system
has
wasn't
meant
to
be
like
that
right.
The
system
when
created
was
to
be,
as
you
mentioned,
a
transitory
Place
where
people
could
stabilize
themselves
and
hopefully
they
start
going
to
different
places
like
housing
right.
F
Some
of
them
go
into
different
types
of
housing,
but
that
is
not
happening
or
not
happening
fast
enough,
and
that
to
me
is
frustrating
and
I
can
even
imagine
how
frustrating
it
is
for
those
that
are
waiting
for
a
bed
or
you
know
just
just
waiting,
but
the
the
question
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
we
probably
need
more,
more
shelter?
More
more.
You
know,
we
talked
sanction
campaign,
I.
Think
the
word
it's
not.
You
know
people
use
Outdoors,
outdoor,
Resource,
Centers
or
whatnot.
F
We
need
all
of
them
all
all
of
it.
That
is
available
to
try
to
solve
the
problem
right
right
now,
while
you
mention
correctly
prevent
more
people
to
come
in
into
it,
and
it
seems
like
it's
a
bucket
with
a
lot
of
holes
and
the
holes
are
gigantic
and
we
are
trying
to
solve
the
issue
right
this
moment
with
the
people
that
are
living
in
the
river
or
living
outside
in
a
tent
in
a
park.
F
F
One
of
the
it
happened
today
a
lot,
but
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
do
you
mentioned
something
that
was
shocking
to
me
when
you
were
talking
about
the
numbers
and
relating
homelessness
with
the
price
of
housing,
and
you
know
how
those
two
correlate
quite
heavily
and
one
could
say
that
restrictive
zoning
laws
could
be
part
of
of
part
of
the
issue.
And
what
could
one
could
say
that
by
liberalizing
if
you
wish,
you
know
zoning
and
densifying
our
cities
all
across
the
board?
F
We
could
potentially
allow
more
housing
to
flourish
in
all
parts
of
the
the
state
and
I
wonder
if
this
is
a
conversation
that
is
being
is
is
happening
because
if
we're
talking
about
a
market
economy-
and
we
talked
about
you-
know
a
deeply
affordable
housing
not
happening,
naturally,
because
it's
impossible
to
pencil
it
out
if
it's
not
happening
naturally,
and
we're
accounting
for
the
market
to
solve
this
problem.
But
it's
not
so
we
injecting
money
into
the
market
to
make
up
the
difference.
F
Why
not
opening
up
a
little
a
little
bit
this
issue
and
densifying
our
cities
across
the
board
and
when
we're
talking
about
no
one?
No
City
wants
a
shelter
in
in
in
their
City
I.
Think
that
the
issue
is
also
happening
within
cities.
We
don't
want
some
of
our
parts
of
our
city,
don't
want
shelters
in
their
part
of
their
cities
or
they
don't
want
affordable
housing
and
coming
from
the
West
Side.
You
know
the
the
con.
F
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
the
deeply
affordable
housing
happening
on
the
west
side,
and
this
this
needs
to
happen
across
the
board.
You
know
coming
from
the
west
side
and
my
neighbors
will
say
we
need
this
mixed
income
because
we
canot
have
this
community
also
burning
the
you
know
the
whole
burden
of
this
issue
right.
We
already
dealing
with
a
lot
of
challenges,
for
example
on
the
west
side
and
again
I'm
not
talking
to
you
I'm
sort
of
talking
to
the
the
The
Ether
here.
F
So
you
know
to
me
this
is
the
issue
of
Housing,
and
if
we
want
the
market
to
solve
it,
we
just
need
to
allow
it
to
solve
it
and
I
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
help.
But
personally
you
you
know
I'm
I'm,
happy
to
show
up
to
whatever
and
to
try
to
be
a
voice
and
try
to
help,
because
this
issue
is
very
important
to
all
of
us.
F
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
this
and
answering
emails
and
trying
to
make
our
neor
neighbors
shelter
and
on
Shelter
try
to
solve
some
of
these
issues.
It
really
is
a
lot,
but
we
sign
up
for
this
job
because
we
care
so
I
just
want
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
been
told
this,
but
you
are
doing
the
work
that
you
may
never
be
think
enough,
because
it's
huge
so
thank.
N
You
thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
just
say
councilman
that,
because
I
think
you
strike
a
a
couple
of
really
good
points
and
I'm,
just
just
going
to
go
back
to
your
comment
about
the
shelters
that
are
at
functional,
zero,
a
functional
capacity,
not
functional
zero,
functional
capacity
and
yeah.
That's
the
way
they've
been
almost
since
they've
opened,
and
you
know,
if
you
don't
have
the
the
people
moving
on
from
those
shelters,
we're
going
to
have
to
create
more
shelter.
It's
up
to
us.
N
If
we
expect
to
get
those
who
are
unsheltered
in
in
a
housing
situation,
it's
either
shelter
we'd
rather
have
them
in
housing.
Housing
isn't
happening
fast
enough,
which
forces
us
to
look
at
more
shelter
I'd,
rather
us
focusing
on
housing
but
I'm
afraid.
As
you
mentioned,
we
may
need
to
be
looking
at
more
just
temporary
shelter.
Unfortunately,
you
know
you
know,
people
are
going
to
be
there
for
a
long
time
and
that
wasn't
the
that's
not
shouldn't
be
our
design,
but
that's
that's
a
reality.
N
I
think
we
have
to
face
and
about
what
cities
can
do.
It's
not
just
Salt
Lake
City,
it's
all
cities,
anything
that
you
can
do
to
reduce
the
cost
of
housing
and
increase
the
supply
of
housing
is
going
to
help
this
problem.
Those
are
key
elements,
and
let
me
just
give
you
one
more
experience,
and
that
is
this.
N
N
N
What
getting
people
into
a
sheltered
situation
and
housing
situation
does
gets
people
in
a
more
stable
situation.
They're
they're,
not
they
have
a
place
to
sleep
place
to
function
it
it's
so
much
better
on
the
community
as
a
whole,
when
people
have
a
place
to
go
and,
and
that
very
fact,
and
how
people
felt
when
we
released
those
individuals
back
out
on
the
street
is
an
indicat
a
of
what's
possible.
If
we
have
enough
places
for
people
to
go
now,
we're
looking
at
600
additional
beds
this
winter,
because
we
didn't
have
enough.
N
Last
year,
more
than
we've
ever
had
before
350
it
was
insufficient.
So
we've
now
said
600,
but
if
we
don't
have
places
for
them
to
go
we're
going
to
release
another
600
people
to
homelessness
next
spring
now
yeah
we
got
them
through
the
winter,
but
you
know
it:
it's
going
to
be
impactful
on
communities
for
the
and
for
the
individual,
mostly
right
the
impacts,
mostly
on
that
individual.
But
it's
going
to
affect
communities
because
there's
going
to
be
another
600
people
that
were
are
unsheltered
that
weren't.
You
know
a
couple
weeks.
E
Ago,
okay,
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
succinct
because
we're
over
time,
oh
okay,
no
I
I'll
meet
you
afterwards.
Express
gratitude,
I
feel
it
deeply
okay.
So
the
first
thing
is:
while
this
crisis
is
one
in
in
and
of
the
homelessness,
the
experience
of
it
for
constituents,
both
sheltered
and
unsheltered,
has
been
different,
and
notably
for
those
of
us
on
the
West
Side.
Since
operation
Rio
Grand,
we
have
been
feeling
the
pressure.
It
is
certainly
accelerated
since
coid
and
is
a
totally
different
creature.
E
Who've
been
living
on
the
front
lines
of
it,
but
then
that
leads
me
to
other
things.
If
we're
going
to
comprehensively
address
this,
we
need
a
Workforce
that
hasn't
been
developed.
Yet
we
have
a
traditional
Workforce
in
response
to
this,
and
so
you
know,
people
who
would
run
sanctioned
campgrounds
is
a
Workforce.
We've
never
had
so.
I
do
have
questions
about
how
that
Workforce
is
being
developed.
E
And
so
is
there
a
way
to
unify
and
streamline
data
capture
so
that
we
can
number
one
have
customized
results
that
are
responsive
to
actual
things
that
we
want
to
see
and
then
number
two,
as
things
are
coming
online
being
able
to
match
make
between
the
individual
and
the
resource
that
might
help
them.
For
instance,
every
time
I
get
someone
over
55
Carol
is
my
first
call
because
I
know
she's.
E
So
amazing,
with
that
constituent
see,
The
Other
Side
Academy
works
for
a
unique,
a
unique
set
of
experiences,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
if
we
could,
as
these
are
coming
online
organically
start
to
data,
collect
and
classify
so
that
we
can,
in
the
future
more
effectively
streamline
the
matchmaking
process,
while
also
inviting
other
providers
in
in
a
verified,
safe
way
to
help
fill
out
this
kind
of
landscape
that
we
need
to
see
to
comprehensively
respond.
So
I
guess
my
question
really
is
Workforce
Development
and
then
what
can
we
do
about?
N
Yeah
and
Workforce
Development
really
is
probably
more
affected
by
state
policy
than
anything,
and
that's
a
discussion.
That's
being
had
we're
raising
the
flag,
you
don't
have
enough
workers
in
this
space
But.
First
of
all,
we
don't
pay
them.
Who
wants
to
do
that
for
what
you
get
paid
for
and
so
that
that's
got
to
be
part
of
what
we
address,
because
I
think,
if
you,
if
you
pay
them
enough
and
the
environment
is
good
enough,
you'll
attract
people
into
to
it.
N
Anyway,
there's
some
efforts
are
going
on,
but
again
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
get
there,
but
I
know
that
you're
going
to
just
one
of
the
most
immediate
things
we
can
do
is
make
sure
that
they're,
you
know
making
a
wage
that
isn't
putting
somebody
on
the
edge
of
homelessness.
That's
that's
a
key
issue
with
that.
Now
the
workforce
and
what
was
your
next
question.
N
Data
collection
really
good,
so
man,
this
is
a
really
hard
issue
about
I.
Think
there's
about
two-thirds
of
those
who
work
in
homeless
services
in
the
state
report
to
hmis
others.
Don't
because
they
don't.
We
they're
a
private
entity
and
we
can't
force
them
to
report.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
at
this
point
is
integrate
databases
Statewide
can.
So
if
we
bring,
you
know
a
criminal
justice
database
together
with
the
homes
and
maybe
Health,
you
know,
we've
got
to
protect
privacy.
N
N
Better,
are
informed
on
on
these
issues
and
what
to
do
for
policy
makers
like
yourself
and
the
legislature,
just
I
can't
believe
how
complicated
it
is,
but
in
the
center
of
all
that
is
privacy,
and
how
do
we,
you
know,
protect
everybody's
privacy,
and
yet
you
know
do
obviously
you
don't
want
to
you
know
individ.
It
has
to
be
aggregated
data,
but
but
that's
what
we
need
right.
We
don't
need
to
know
individual
names,
there's
an
effort
for
that.
N
I
think
there's
going
to
be
some
changes
on
Statewide
data
that
the
state
has
control
in
this
next
SL
deive
session,
hopefully
to
get
us
to
some
better
information
to
inform
policy.
But
you
know
we
have
a
long
ways
to
go
with
that
for
sure.
But
you
know
you
can
look
on
the
website
today.
We,
when
we
sign
a
contract
with
a
provider
that
we
provide
money
funds,
we
require
outcomes
and
they
report
on
those.
A
So,
okay,
thank
you
Wayne!
We
are
at
our
time,
but
if
there's
any
last
minute
short
comment
that
council
members
want
to
make
do
we
have
any.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
this
at
the
conversations
this
is
we
scratched
the
surface
today,
but
again,
I'll
just
say
what
I
said
in
the
beginning
is
that
this
is
probably
the
most
in-depth
we've
ever
talked
about
in
a
council
meeting
with
a
representative
state.
So
thanks
for
for
being
that,
that.
N
A
Thanks
appreciate
and
then
we'll
we'll
talk
again
soon.
Council
members,
we
have
a
10
of
break
scheduled,
but
we
need
to
move
to
the
board
appointment
before
the
break,
because
the
board
appointee
has
a
hard
stop
at
5:30.
So
we
and
that's
why
we're
doing
a
board
appointment
early
today,
we'll
do
the
we
have
more
board
appointments
we'll
do
them
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
like
normal,
but
this
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
Carlos
Santos
Rivera.
Are
you
here
in
person
or
online.
A
Great
thank
you
for
being
here.
We
just
give
you
a
minute
or
two
to
introduce
yourselves.
Tell
us
why
you're
interested
in
the
in
the
Planning
Commission
did
my
sound.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
I
can
hear
you
all
right,
okay
hold
on
we're
having
sound
issues.
Maybe
we
can't
hear
anything.
Maybe
you
can
hear
things
but.
A
A
Q
Yeah
absolutely
well.
Thank
you
so
much
everyone
for
having
me
thank
thank
you.
Council
man,
councilwoman
here
I
am
Carlos
Santos
Riva
I
am
a
strategist
and
resilience
planner.
Formerly
a
government
consultant
for
management.
Consulting
firm
here
in
Utah
working
in
issues
like
arpa
cares
act,
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program,
Co
Relief
Fund
among
other
different
grants,
working
with
state
and
local
clients
and
federal
agencies
managing
their
statutory
and
Regulatory
Compliance,
with
those
grants
and
just
as
prev
ly
mentioned,
just
working
with
housing
issues,
planning
issues,
crisis
management
and
overall
disaster
management.
Q
I
am
eager
for
this
position.
I
am
here
representing
District
three
in
our
beautiful
city
of
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
I
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
keep
shaping
the
future
of
our
local
decision-.
Making
processes,
and
my
background
is
in
political
science
and
urban
planning
and
I
see
this
as
a
platform
to
keep
shaping
our
our
beautiful
future
together,
not
only
for
District
3,
but
everyone
who
calls
Salt,
Lake,
City,
home
and
yeah
I
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
again.
Q
I've
been
working
with
different
entities,
you
know
multiple
different
states,
multiple
different
communities
and
I'm.
Very
passionate
about
what
bring
us
all
together
and
I
think
that
I
bring
not
only
my
professional
experience
to
the
table
as
a
resilience
planner,
but
also
as
a
very
practical
professional
who
works
with
you
know,
consensus,
building
and
making
anything
possible
for
for
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
communities.
And
it's
a
pleasure
to
meet
you
all.
Virtually.
H
A
You
thank
you
appreciate
your
time
and
and
I
know
you
have
a
appointment
here
in
a
few
minutes,
so
we'll
let
you
get
going
all
righty
much
you're
going
to
be
on
the
consent
agenda
tonight
for
Action.
You
don't
need
to
attend.
There
will
be
no
additional
time
for
you
that
you'll
need
to
speak,
but
that
you'll
be.
Will
official
official
will
make
this
official
tonight.
A
A
A
A
Council
members,
we
are
back
from
break.
Our
next
item
is
the
listed,
is
agenda
item
number
six
and
it's
a
rezone
and
master
plan
Amendment
approximately
1435
State
Street,
and
we
have
Brian
Fulmer
from
Council
staff
to
give
us
an
introduction.
Then
a
Aaron
Barlo
from
the
planning
staff
and
I
seen
way
see
way.
Mills
here
as
well
before
we
get
started.
I
just
want
to
disclose.
I
do
not
have
any
involvement
in
this
project,
but
I
am
working
on
a
project
with
the
same
applicant.
A
S
Thank
you
Mr
chair.
This
is
a
proposal
to
amend
the
zoning
map
and
future
land
use
map
for
the
properties
at
1433,
1435,
South,
State,
Street,
1433,
South,
Edison,
Street
and
121
East
Cleveland
Avenue
from
their
current
Cc
or
Corridor
commercial
and
r15000
single
family,
residential
zoning
designations
to
FB
un2
or
form-based
Urban
neighborhood
zoning.
S
In
addition,
The
Proposal
calls
for
amending
the
Central
Community
master
plan.
Future
land
use
map
from
the
current
medium
mixed
use
and
lowdensity
residential
designations
to
High
mixed
use.
The
petitioner
stated
objective
is
to
consolidate
the
parcels
and
construct
a
mixed
use:
development
consisting
of
commercial
spaces
and
apartments.
I'll
turn
it
over
to.
T
T
And
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
look
at
this.
This
is
the
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
here's
the
maps
of
what
the
request
is.
Specifically,
you
can
see
the
area
in
red
and
part
of
the
property
or
most
of
the
properties
within
the
CC
District
in
the
medium
residential,
mixed
use,
land
use,
designation
and
then
there
is
a
single
family
house
that
is
part
of
this
proposal.
Next
slide,
along
with
this
proposal,
is
request
to
allow
65
ft
height
at
this
location.
T
T
T
T
Okay,
that's
a
blast
next
slide,
please
just
another
shot
of
the
location.
There
are
four
properties
included
with
this
proposal:
1435
States,
the
property
facing
State
Street,
but
then
also
facing
Edison
Street
1433
is
a
unv
alley.
1420
Edison
is
a
small
property
that
contains
a
bike
shop
and
121
East
Cleveland
is
the
single
family
home
next
slide.
T
T
T
Specifically,
they
are
wider
setbacks,
20
ft
for
the
rear
yard,
15t
for
a
side
yard,
and
these
are
for
adjacent
to
single
family
districts
or
districts
that
allow
30
feet
or
shorter.
So
any
District
that
has
that
lower
height
limit
would
these
would
apply
and
then
there's
also
the
upper
level
step
back,
and
that
was
slightly
changed
with
the
amendment
to
the
downtown
building
Heights,
it
used
to
be
a
one
to
one,
but
now
it
is
a
10-ft
step
back
above
30
feet
in
height
that
next
floor
and
then
the
landscape
buffer.
T
There
is
that
seven
foot
buffer
with
shade
trees,
Hedges
and
a
fence
next
slide
and
just
going
over
this
proposal
is
consistent
with
more
contemporary
master
plan
policies.
The
Central
Community
master
plan
really
emphasized
adding
density
downtown
only
and
not
in
other
parts
of
the
community,
but
later
plans
have
really
pushed
for
Transit
corridors
and
other
areas,
and
that's
why
staff
has
recommended
approval
on
this,
despite
conflicting
with
the
Central
Community
master
plan
that
was
adopted
about
almost
20
years
ago
next
slide.
So,
oh
and
then
next
slide.
Thank
you.
A
Presented
I
just
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
the
footnote
thing
just
seems
like
a
not
very
elegant,
I
understand
why
and
we
had
an
old
Zone
that
had
a
table
that
had
these
are
areas
were
allowing
additional
height.
We
also
expanded
that
by
coach,
doing
giving
Coachman's
that
when
they
ask
for
their
reson
so
sort
of
a
situation
that
I
guess
is
just
going
to
I
mean
that's
I
I
guess
I
get
it
I.
A
What
I'm
trying
to
say
is
it
feels
like
a
not
the
most
clean
and
elegant
thing
to
do
and
I
I.
Hopefully,
as
we're
going
through
and
re
damping
our
zones,
we
can
find
things
that
have
the
benefits
of
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
2
Zone,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
benefits
they
require
Street
activation.
They
have
there's
design
review
and
all
these
things
that
that
as
me
as
a
Urban
Design
nerd
like,
but
as
we
do
that
the
addition,
but
it
does
have
a
a
little
bit
lower
height
than
some
other
zones.
A
C
Yeah
good
even
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
yeah.
My
name
is
Simon
rinsky
I'm,
a
project
manager
with
designs
of
Tomorrow
architecture,
who's
working
on
this
project,
so
I'll
just
give
you
guys
a
very
brief
kind
of
overview
of
where
we're
at
with
the
project
and
what
we're
aspiring
to
do
next
slide
please.
So
this
is
the
developers
not
here
tonight,
but
this
is
kind
of
their
overview.
It's
colmena
group.
C
They
have
sort
of
a
vested
interest
in
a
lot
of
the
corridor,
areas
of
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
so
they
have
this
property
and
they're
looking
to
kind
of
reinvigorate
at
more
energy
to
the
neighborhood.
Next
slide,
please,
and
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
the
architecture
team,
I
myself
and
the
project
manager
on
it.
We
actually
also
have
an
office
right
off
State
Street,
not
too
far
to
the
North.
C
So
brief
overview
map
1435
South
State,
it's
a
little
bit
south
of
the
13th
and
State
Street
intersection
jump
to
the
next
slide
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
Transit.
It
is
on
a
15minute
corridor
for
State
Street
for
UTA
buses
and
the
blue.
Red
and
green
lines
are
at
the
Ballpark
track
station
about
half
mile
walkway,
roughly
so
in
the
grand
scheme
of
of
things,
that's
actually
relatively
Transit
at
rich
neighborhood
next
slide.
O
C
Walkable
environment
there's
no
open
space
requirements,
there's
also
no
requirements
for
transitioning
between
a
lowdensity
residential
Zone,
which
there
will
still
be
a
little
bit
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
that
block
and
medium
and
high
density
residential
uses
and
then
with
the
CC
Zone
as
well.
There's
that
allowability
for
autoc,
Centric
and
Industrial
uses
that
tend
to
be
detrimental
to
Two
Urban
corridors
that
are
that
we're
trying
to
develop
like
this
next
slide.
C
Please
couple
photos
of
current
property
conditions.
There
are
some
existing
retail
tenants
on
site,
but
I
think
actually
the
majority
of
the
site
is
vacant.
P
Mana
I
know
has
had
some
issues
with
lease
up
of
these
buildings
and
there
are
just
a
lot
of
open
parking
areas,
there's
a
big
loading
dock
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
So
it's
not.
Even
though
there
are
some
tenants
on
site,
it's
not
super,
just
not
a
very
friendly
environment.
Next
slide,
please.
C
So
our
proposal,
like
Aaron
mentioned,
is
to
up
Zone
this
to
fb2,
with
that
65
foot,
height
height
limit
and
some
of
the
benefits
of
the
proposed
rezone,
just
some
language
out
of
the
code.
Obviously
we're
creating
people
oriented
places
with
an
emphasis
on
mixed
use,
developments
which
I'll
touch
on
briefly.
In
a
couple
slides,
there
are
height
and
density
limits
that
are
preferred
in
the
recently
approved
Master
plans.
The
increased
height
allows
for
better
sense
of
enclosure
ratio
on
State
Street.
C
Also,
the
proposed
buildings
will
create
a
little
bit
of
a
sound
buffer
from
State
Street
as
well
having
that
higher
and
medium
density
on
State
Street
just
kind
of
buffers,
those
internal
neighborhoods,
there
are
more
stringent
setbacks,
step
back
and
Landscape
requirements
for
the
fbu
and2
Zone
than
the
CC
Zone,
which
will
just
allow
for
a
nicer
transition
between
that
existing
residential
housing
and
the
proposed
development.
There
are
also
open
space
requirements
which
are
always
beneficial.
Autoc,
Centric
and
Industrial
uses
are
not
allowed
in
the
fbu
and2
zone.
C
Well,
I
shouldn't
say
all
of
them,
but
most
of
them
are
not
allowed
and
there's
additional
design
standards
that
will
just
better
comply
with
the
adopted
Master
plans
next
slide,
please.
So
here's
our
proposed
site
plan
for
the
time
being
jump
to
the
next
slide
and
we
should
see
our
level
one
plan.
So
we're
proposing
the
creation
of
three
separate
retail
spaces.
As
I
mentioned,
there
are
some
retail
tenants
on
site.
C
C
C
Please
I'll
be
a
couple
of
these,
so
this
is
from
the
northwest
corner,
so
as
you're
going
down
State
Street
to
the
South.
This
is
what
you
would
see
slide
and
then
the
southeast
corner,
where
there
are
some
of
those
existing
residential
homes-
and
this
is
showing
the
proposed
setback,
step
back
and
Landscape
requirements
which
the
project
be
in
full.
U
A
Can
we
go
back
to
Scott?
Can
we
go
back
to
the
slide
that
had
limitations
of
the
current
Zone
Thank
You,
For,
Preparing,
this
and
and
presenting
I
actually
think
I
want
to
just
highlight
what
you
said
here,
because
I
think
it's
very
important.
The
current
CC
Zone
actually
is
I've
said
this
on
the
record.
A
So
just
thank
you
for
being
so
clear
and
precise
about
why
why
the
current
zoning,
what
the
current
zoning
does
and
some
of
the
problems
with
it
and
then
I
think
the
companion
slide
to
this
was
a
few
forward
where
it
said
some
of
the
advantages
of
the
fbu
and
two
zone.
So
thank
you
for
presenting
it
in
that
way.
I
think
that's
really
clear.
I'd
love
a
copy
of
this
so
that
as
I
explain
to
my
constituents
about
this
request
that
that's
a
really
easy,
succinct
way
to
to
explain
it.
F
F
So
I'm
glad
to
see
them
go,
but
but
let
me
say
this
I
the
piece
that
I
really
care
about
is
I'm,
encouraged
to
see
mix,
use
facing
St
Street
and
to
me
that
is
key
part
of
this
pro
pro
project.
If
this
plan,
if
your
plans
change
and
then
then
you
ask
that
that's
a
big
problem
to
me
and
I,
you
know
we
need
the
housing
we're
going
to
need.
You
know,
I,
love
that
you
know.
F
A
A
C
A
C
Goal
was
to
provide
so
if
we
go
one
more
slide,
the
goal
was
actually
to
provide
three
kind
of
different
scaled
spaces
for
just
a
variety
of
tenants.
So
we
could
have
somewhat
larger
restaurant.
We
could
have
a
smaller
gym.
We
could
have
a
smaller
coffee
shop
or
small
retail
store,
but
the
goal
is
to
provide
that
variety,
because
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
the
time.
C
What
we
see
around
the
city
is
kind
of
like
boiler,
plate
retail
that
then
sits
empty
and
it's
not
really
tailored
for
a
variety
of
tenants.
So
that
was
the
goal
here
and
again.
We're
I
think
the
developers
working
with
the
tenants
on
site
to
try
and
get
them
to
move
into
the
new
building
once
it's
complete,
and
so,
if
they're
interested
in
that,
then
we're
happy
to
kind
of
massage
the
spaces
to
meet
their
needs.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
it
looks
to
me
like
it's
about
half
of
the
frontage
of
the
building
more
or
less
is
is
used
for
commercial.
Could
you
go
back
to
the
your
client
and
ask
if
they
are
amenable
to
potentially
looking
at
agreeing
to
include
some
of
that
and
and
to
what
degree
they
would
be
willing
to
agree
in
a
development
agreement
that,
like
the
mixed
use
as
Council
pu
mentioned,
would
actually
stay
in
the
project
and
and
not
be
because
I
know
foreign
base.
A
G
Got
it
well,
I
want
to
be
clear
because
I,
you
know,
council
members
don't
get
to
pick
the
paint.
As
we
say,
we
don't
get
to
design
the
buildings.
That's
your
job
and
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
like.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
how
I
would
vote
on
this
project
or
anything
but
I'm
picking
you,
because
this
is
a
a
a
highly
visible
part.
G
Think
that
this
being
on
State
Street
is
like
a
really
great
opportunity,
not
that
there's
anything
wrong
with
this
design,
but
some
of
the
other
designs
that
you
showed
that
your
firm
has
worked
on
are
a
little
bit
more
Dynamic,
and
so
this
is
feedback
purposes.
Only
that
I
would
love
it
if
there
was
something
that
was
more
different
or
more
like
interesting.
Because
of
this,
the
placement
on
this,
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
how
I'm
going
to
vote
just
making
that
clear
Garen
but
yeah.
A
A
G
A
Any
other
council
member
comments,
thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here
have
a
couple
things
for
you
to
take
back
to
the
the
owner
and
and
and
maybe
work
with
our
staff
on,
but
thanks
yeah.
Thanks
appreciate
this
and
excited
to
see
projects
happening
on
State,
Street
yeah.
We
are
too,
we
badly
need
it
in
that
part
of
the
city
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
All,
oh
okay,
so
we
are
now
transitioning
to
item
number
seven,
which
is
a
follow-up
discussion
on
budget
amendment
number
one.
We
had
a.
We
didn't
quite
get
through
all
of
the
things
on
the
last
budget
amendment,
but
we
have
already
discussed
this
once
or
twice
so
then.
Let's
continue
that
discussion.
P
There's
a
updated
attachment
you
may
have
noticed
it
is
a
calendar
of
events
for
the
downtown
open
streets
events.
The
council
asked
for
additional
details,
since
the
activation
and
programming
budget
is
proposed
to
be
significantly
higher
than
in
previous
years.
It's
five
pages,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
it.
It
lists
events
by
day
time
of
day
and
the
location
since
individual
blocks
are
identified,
to
have
a
broader
spread,
so
more
blocks
will
be
able
to
participate
in
the
programming
than
in
previous
years
where
it
was
more
concentrated
in
some
areas.
P
This
is
a
draft
so
subject
to
change.
It's
not
final
and
the
events
is
scheduled
to
kick
off,
I
believe
Friday
September
15th
and
run
through
the
end
of
October.
Just
a
reminder,
the
council
did
take
a
straw
poll
5
to2
at
the
last
briefing
to
indicate
support.
The
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
tonight,
and
the
vote
is
scheduled
for
September.
E
P
V
Block
yes,
so
the
budget
that
we
reviewed
at
our
previous
meeting
did
not
list
out
each
event
and
each
activation
that
we
were
doing
within
the
event.
So
we
provided
a
list
of
all
the
activ
ations
that'll
be
provided
under
that
$185,000
number
that
number.
Since
we've
last
Met
has
been
reduced
due
to
additional
information
and
more
information
around
the
activations
and
what
we're
going
to
what's
possible.
What
we're
able
to
do,
which
has
been
reduced
by
approximately.
E
$30,000
is
it
possible
to
get
an
actual
budget
that
says
we're
paying
this
person
this
much
this
material,
this
rental
is
this
much
it
yes,
I'm,
just
still
struggling
with
the
fact
that
this
is
more
than
three
times
what
we
paid
last
year
for
a
third
of
the
evenings
that
that's
still
and
and
I
get
it
I'm
the
two
versus
the
five,
but
it's
still
really
really
bothersome
to
me.
Thank.
H
A
H
To
have
a
breakdown,
so
the
council
members
understand
like
where
exactly
where
the
money
is
going.
I
know
that
there
have
from
what
I
hear
from
downtown
Alliance,
and
you
guys
the
city
was
able
to
what
you
call
it
to
not
charge
certain
fees
and
not
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
now
the
we
are
charging
the
downtown
Alliance
some
of
these
fees
and
that's
why
the
price
is
up.
H
So
I
would
like
to
see
what
those
fees
are,
because
if
the
city
can
wave
these
fees
by
all
means
by
all
means
like
let's
wave
them
and
and
put
this
cost
down
and
also
I,
know,
there's
some
some
issues
with
with
security
and
as
we
all
know,
security
prices
have
gone
up.
So
I
think
that's
part
of
the
issue
as
well.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
have
like
a
breakdown
of
all
the
all.
The
pricing
I
mean
all
the
cost.
W
That's
if
that's
possible,
we
we
do
have
we
can.
We
can
request
that
I
also
wanted
to
note
a
big
difference
from
last
year.
Is
that
a
lot
of
the
activation
that
happened
was
already
happening,
so
the
bus
scare
fest
was
happening
during
open
streets
and
also
the
some
of
the
blocks?
Events,
that's
that
was
completely
separate.
G
Action
Council
Wharton,
yes
it
so,
in
addition
to
like
a
breakdown
of
costs,
I
would
like
to
see
kind
of
what
you
were
talking
about.
Can
we
get
a
schedule
of
what
the
activation
was
that
we
had
in
previous
years?
So
we
can
get
a
real
idea
of
you
know
this
is
this?
Is
the
activation
you
got
in
previous
years,
but
we
either
weren't
paying
for
it
or
this?
This
is
what
we
did
pay
for.
G
A
F
I
think
that
last
last
coun
M
that
we
discussed
this
and
today
we
we
basically
have
the
same
question
as
having
a
better
better
understanding
of
the
numbers
will
be
very
useful
and
I
know
that
you
can
get
get
us
that
information.
But
to
me
it
doesn't
really
change
on
this
case.
The
outcome
I
really
want
this
to
happen
and
I
want
us
to
to
understand
a
little
better.
What
we're
getting
for
this
money,
but
also
trying
to
find
out
what
you
know.
F
If
we
let
the
downtown
Main
Street
die,
I
worried
about
you
know
what
we
saw
in
Miami,
where
you
know
I,
remember
being
on
a
scooter
in
Miami
running
around
and
these
main
areas
of
Miami,
the
downtown
historic
core
all
barded
out
closed
out
dead,
and
that
really
we
don't
want
that
to
happen.
So
I
I,
ultimately
I
think
all
of
us
agree
with
that.
You
know
dream
so,
but
yes,
the
the
numbers
will
help
us
a
lot.
Thank
you.
K
K
They
had
the
30,000
Main
Street
visitors
each
open
week,
streets
weekend.
This
is
from
2022
last
year
they
had
53,000
Main
Street
visitors
during
the
15
weeks
and
they
estimated
it
a
$45
per
visitor,
so
that
equated
to
22
million
estimate
on
the
visitors
spending
for
those
15
weeks,
so
so
30,000
per
weekend
so
30,000
per
weekend
times.
We
have
eight
weekends
or
something
of
that
nature,
this
time.
K
A
Appreciate
this
conversation,
I'm
not
going
to
I,
know,
I
was
one
of
the
two
votes
that
said
no
to
the
activation
money,
I'm
not
going
to
try
and
change
anyone's
mind
and
I.
Appreciate
that
you're
doing
all
this
hard
work,
I
want
you
to
keep
going
make
these
things
the
best
events
they
possibly
can
be
this
year,
but
I
do
want
to
think
about
how
these
can
stop
being
events
and
be
just
the
condition
of
the
Street
downtown
and
I.
H
Thank
you
for
the
sending
that
I
think
we
mentioned
this
before
we
made
national
news
on
how
fast
we
recovered
be
because
of
our
all
of
our
investment
in
downtown
Salt
Lake
City,
and
this
was
not
the
downtown
Alliance
in
it.
Wasn't
our
staff.
It
was
outside
party
figuring
it
out
getting
the
data.
The
real
data
out
there,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
say
about
that.
Second
of
all,
we've
invested
in
studying
this
open
street
closure
or
open
Street
SP
program,
the
main
street
closure.
H
So
it
is
in
tandem
of
what
we're
doing
right
now.
So
we
will
have
the
numbers
and
we
will
have
the
study
that
says
if
you
guys
want
this
to
be
permanently
closed.
This
is
how
much
is
going
to
cost.
So
don't
think
that
if
next
year
we
don't
do
this
open
streets,
we're
off
the
hook
like
naturally
Main
Street
will
be
amazing
on
its
own.
We'll
have
to
invest.
So,
let's
not
forget
about
that,
and
there
is
a
200
right
now,
two.
H
A
A
P
We've
got
a
few
more.
There
are
some
housekeeping
items.
I
can
skip
over
that
we
see
each
year
or
are
just
followup
Corrections
from
the
annual
budget,
so
I'll
just
focus
on
the
ones.
I
think
the
council
would
have
policy
interest
if
that's
all
right.
A3
I
won't
talk
much
about
this
one.
Since
there
was
a
separate
briefing.
This
is
the
corresponding
budget
item
for
the
$2.4
million
refund
to
the
ivory
University
house.
P
An
equivalent
amount,
$2.4
million
would
be
used
over
the
next
10
years
through
needs-based
scholarships
for
City
residents.
It
could
be
housing
assistance,
it
could
be
tuition,
stip
bins,
it
could
be
paid
internships
or
a
mixture
of
those.
There
was
a
separate
staff
report
and
briefing
on
this
last
mon.
The
budget
amendment
staff
report
does
have
a
breakdown
of
where
that
$2.4
million
is
coming
from.
P
X
And
the
hearing
the
public
hearing
for
that
public
benefits
analysis
is
tonight
and
the
anticipated
Time
for
Action
is
the
19th
so,
depending
on
what
the
outcome
is
of
that
public
benefits
analysis
staff
can
follow
up
and
remove
that
item
from
the
budget
amendment
right,
because,
obviously,
if
you
don't
approve
it,
then
it
won't
be.
You.
X
P
There's,
if
there's
nothing
else
on
that
I'll
jump
to
item
D2.
This
is
a
correction
to
the
Consolidated
fee
schedule
and
there's
a
table
on
page
eight.
We
can
get
up
on
the
screen
that
shows
the
redline
changes.
The
adopted
Consolidated
fee
schedule
inadvertently
used
the
same
fee
$350
for
a
sidewalk
closure.
As
for
a
travel
lane
closure,
they
should
not
be
the
same.
The
cost
justification
study
said
that
the
sidewalk
closure
should
be
$98,
and
so
this
is
to
correct
that.
P
So
there
are
two
separate
amounts
for
the
two
different
types
of
lane
closure
and
a
note.
There
are
two
different
ordinances,
one
for
the
budget
amendment
and
one
for
amending
the
Consolidated
fee
schedule.
So
we're
talking
about
both
in
the
budget
amendment
briefing.
But
since
there's
two
ordinances,
that's
two
separate
votes.
We
will
have
these
listed
separately
on
the
agenda
on
the
19th
when
the
council
considers
them
for.
P
Action
next
is
item
D3.
This
is
a
budget
neutral
recope
of
a
CIP
project.
It
is
the
Three
Creeks
West
roadway.
It's
a
single
stretch
of
1300
South,
just
west
of
the
Jordan
River
by
The
Three,
Creeks,
Confluence
Park.
The
project
originally
included
two
parts
reconstructing
the
road
and
installing
utilities
underneath
it
after
the
council
originally
funded
it.
The
Engineers
came
back
and
told
us
that
the
utility
costs
were
not
fully
reflected
in
the
estimate
and
there
wasn't
enough
funding
for
the
whole
project.
P
In
addition,
the
count
the
city
engaged
with
the
10
Property
Owners
10
residents,
because
if
you
install
a
sewer
M,
the
health
code
requires
is
the
property
owner
at
their
expense
to
tie
in
and
link
up
with
that
sewer
man
which
can
be
quite
expensive.
So
the
city
asked.
Do
you
support
this?
Are
you
aware
of
the
costs?
Here's
additional
information
and
there
was
not
unanimous
support
from
the
10
Residential
Properties.
P
So
the
request
today
is
to
recope
the
full
amount
to
be
used
only
on
reconstructing
the
road,
and
this
would
be
a
full
reconstruction
sidewalk
to
sidewalk.
It's
also
next
to
the
Jord
River
and
the
Jordan
River
Trail.
So
there
are
some
additional
considerations
building
next
to
a
river.
If
the
council
approved
the
res
scope,
the
design
would
be
finalized.
This
winter
and
construction
would
begin
next.
P
Year
D4,
this
is
a
request
to
reallocate
$1.5
millionar
from
the
streets,
reconstruction
Bond
and
moving
it
from
1700
East
reconstruction
to
2100
South
reconstruction.
The
funding
would
be
used
for
some
expanded
scope
elements,
in
particular
additional
traffic
calming
on
2100
South.
This
would
be
a
delay
in
reconstructing
1700
East
and
reasons
to
support
that
are
coordinating
other
projects.
So
Public
Utilities
is
planning
a
potential
storm
drain
upgrade,
so
they
would
need
to
excavate
the
street
for
that
there
's
a
possibility
that
Highland,
High
School
would
be
rebuilt.
P
That
is
currently
uncertain,
but
if
it
does
happen,
it
would
likely
have
impacts
to
the
road
and
there
are
also
elements
of
2100
South.
Without
this
funding
that
wouldn't
have
any
funding
and
would
be
removed
from
the
project.
So
for
all
those
reasons,
engineering
is
recommending
transferring
the
1.5
million
to
2100
South
reconstruction.
There
would
be
future
requests
to
the
council
for
1700
East
reconstruction
when
those
other
projects
can
be
coordinated.
We
have
a
table.
It's
just
a
little
bit
down
on
the
page
showing
all
of
the
funding
sources.
P
2100
South
is
almost
$15
million
right
now.
This
is
one
of
the
largest
reconstruction
projects
in
the
city
and
there
are
likely
to
be
additional
requests
coming
to
the
council
in
a
future
budget
opening
to
increase
this
funding
amount,
probably
from
Transportation
impact
fees,
as
the
total
cost
of
the
project
goes
up.
Impact
fees
are
a
percentage
of
the
total,
so
a
higher
total
means
you
can
spend
more
impact
fees
on
the
project.
This
item
would
increase
the
total
and
we'd
come
back
later.
P
Y
P
P
And
then
the
last
item
I'll
talk
about
Mr
chair
is
D5.
The
city
was
notified
that
we
are
expecting
to
receive
$21.6
million
from
the
federal
government
as
a
grant
to
rebuild
Three
Bridges
over
the
Jordan
River.
This
is
part
of
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
that
was
passed
about
two
years
ago.
It
created
a
bridge
formula
program
that
guarantees
a
minimum
amount
of
funding
to
State
Departments
of
Transportation.
Each
State
Department
of
Transportation
then
selects
which
individual
projects
would
receive
receive.
P
The
funding
and
UDOT
has
selected
these
bridges
over
the
Jordan
River
650,
North,
200,
South
and
500
South
UDOT
would
be
the
lead
for
administering
this
Federal
funding,
designing
the
bridges
and
constructing
it.
When
they're
completed
those
bridges
are
transferred
to
the
city,
so
the
city
will
own
the
bridge
and
be
responsible
for
its
maintenance
going
forward.
The
council
did
fund
in
previous
years
of
CIP
a
total
of
$6.3
million
to
rehabilitate
these
Bridges.
P
We
learned
from
subsequent
inspections
that
there
had
been
some
damage
from
the
March
2020
earthquake
to
some
of
the
bridges
and
they
had
continued
to
deteriorate
to
the
point
where
rehabilitating
them
was
no
longer
recommended
by
the
structural
engineer,
but
a
full
rebuild.
So
the
request
today
is
to
recope
that
$6.3
million
to
be
available
for
reconstructing
all
three
of
the
bridges
and
is
local
matching
funds
to
the
$21
million.
Coming
from
the
federal.
P
Government
one
note
that
some
of
the
funding
would
be
needed
to
relocate
Public
Utilities
private
utilities
are
relocated
at
no
cost
to
the
city,
which
is
a
requirement
of
the
franchise
agreement
between
the
private
utility
provider
and
the
city.
One
of
the
policy
questions
is
if
the
council
would
like
to
ask
the
administration
to
estimate
those
costs
and
see
if
there
could
be
Public
Utilities
dollars,
either
in
existing
budgets
or
in
future
budget
requests
to
cover
some
of
those
costs.
P
Other
policy
questions
if
the
council
is
interested
would
be
what
amenities
these
Bridge
rebuilds
could
bring,
such
as
bike
Lanes,
widening
the
bridges,
public
art
lighting
Etc
and
if
there's
any
concerns
about
minimizing
East
West
travel
since
rebuilding
the
bridges.
All
at
once
could
be
a
significant
disruption
to
the
neighborhoods,
but
it
could
also
potentially
be
a
cost
savings
for
doing
the
projects
in.
A
Some
of
it
will
be
should
be.
Trans
could
be
transferred
to
Public
Utilities
to
help
them
relocate
those
utilities.
What
is
are
are
we
can
we
say
yes
recope,
that
$975,000
to
be
the
matching
Grant,
so
we
can
get
the
federal
funds,
but
come
back
to
us
with
more
information
about
that
5.3,
because
it's
a
large
number
and
if
we
can
use
some
of
that
for
other
projects
in
CIP
and
this
one
like.
A
If
we
can
accomplish
this
project
for
Less,
it
would
be
great
to
recapture
that
for
other
projects,
but
so
I
I,
don't
want
to
just
say:
well
we
put
this
in
there.
We
don't
need
it
now,
but
keep
it
in
the
project
and
like
put
gold
dust
in
the
concrete
or
something
you
know
like
I,
don't
want
to
like.
Don't
necessarily
want
to
just
spend
it
on
that
project,
because
we
had
already
allocated
the
project
I
want
to
spend
on
that
project
if
it's
needed
so.
Y
One
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
the
$21.8
million-
that
was
the
Grant
from
the
federal
bipartisan
infrastructure
infrastructure
act
that
will
go
to
fund
these
Bridges.
As
part
of
that,
we
are
required
to
relocate
any
utilities
that
may
be
needed
as
part
of
the
coordination
with
UDOT
and
planning.
For
this
$21.8
million
that
we
received,
we
will
be
required
on
our
cost
to
relocate
those
Public
Utilities.
Y
We
were
asked
to
give
a
dollar
amount
for
that,
and
the
dollar
amount
that
was
given
was
$4.2
Million
for
all
three
Bridges,
so
the
$6.3
million
that
we
have
approximately
1
million
or
the
975,000
would
go
towards
the
local
match.
The
other
remaining
5.3
of
that
would
be
4.2
million
to
go
for
utility
relocations.
The
remainder
of
that,
which
is
approximately
$1
million,
would
go
towards
the
design
for
the
Reconstruction
of
the
400
South
Bridge.
Y
That
was
the
fourth
worst
bridge
in
our
Bridge
inventory,
and
so
the
original
CIP
allocation
back
I
believe
in
2021
was
for
the
rehabilitation
of
the
400
South
Bridge
and
the
650
North
Bridge
and
has
been
explained
as
a
result
of
the
earthquake
in
March.
2020,
it
was
no
longer
recommended
that
the
bridges
be
rehabilitated
yet
but
reconstructed,
and
so
we
would
take
that
money
that
was
left
put
towards
the
design
of
the
Reconstruction
of
the
400
South
Bridge.
A
Million
okay
yeah,
but
it's
that
remaining
1
million.
That
I
think
I
would
be
interested
in
at
least
just
thinking
about
whether
we
want
to
spend
it
on
that
design.
That
sounds
like
a
lot
for
I.
Don't
know
exactly
what
design
means,
but
I
mean
I
know
what
design
means,
but
I
don't
know
what
design
of
a
bridge
so
necessarily
means,
but
is
it
really
a
million
dollars
for.
A
But
let's
just
give
you
the
money
for
the
design
and
then
we
can
use
the
whatever's
left
over
for
other
projects
that
are
ready
to
go
or
overage
for
CIP
projects
that
we've
already
approved
and
then
once
we
have
the
design,
we'll
know
exactly
how
much
is
needed
and
we
can
put
that
through
the
same
process.
So
we
put
every
other
CIP
perfect
request.
That's
just
my
idea,
though,.
F
No,
that's
I
I,
never
thought
about
that
I,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
to
me:
I'm
very
curious
about
that
as
well.
You
know
using
moving
projects
along
now,
instead
of
sitting
them
letting
the
money
sit
there
and
not
that
we're
defunding
the
project,
but
instead
of
utilizing
the
money
ahead
of
time.
F
So
and
many
of
these
bridges
are
my
in
my
district,
so
I'm
very
thankful
to
this
I
to
the
policy
question
number
two
about
the
amenities
or
is
it
32
I'm
very
interested
on
that
many
of
these
Brides
the
sidewalks
are
B,
narrow
and
very
unsafe,
and
not
great
to
use
that
would
be.
If
we're
going
to
do
it.
Let's
do
it
right
that
that
you
know
so
I,
that's
very
important
to
me
and
I
mean
one
of
them
is.
F
You
know,
connects
as
well
said
here
with
the
600
700
North
project.
So
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
you
know
there's
a
school
right
there.
There
is
a
park
right
there,
there's
a
lot
of
amenities
that
the
city
is
already
funding,
so
might
as
well
just
make
sure
that
the
the
bridge
meets
our
expectations
for
now
and
the
future,
and
my
a
follow-up
question
to
that
to
my
own
comment,
followup
question
to
my
own
comment
is:
how
is
it
connect?
F
Some
of
these
Bridges
go
above
the
Jordan
River
Trail,
and
will
that
impact
the
trail
I'm
sure
it
will
and
what
will
be?
Are
there
amenities
that
could
be
added
under
the
bridge
to
make
those
those
path?
The
trail
better?
If
you
wish
I,
we
have
some
times
many
times.
We
even
got
one
of
those
a
few
minutes
ago
from
constituent
about
unsafe
situation
under
some
of
these
Bridges.
Could
these
Bridges
include
some
lighting
or
some
beautification?
F
If,
if
you
wish
on
the
underside
on
right
above
the
the
the
trail,
so
if
we're
going
to
do
one,
maybe
we
need
to
add
a
little
more
funding
to
make
sure
that
that
works.
If
that's
not
part
of
the
deal,
but
if
we're
going
to
do
it,
maybe
we
just
think
holistically
about
how
it
connects
with
the
trail
too.
So.
Y
And
those
are
some
great
comments
and
questions
for
this
type
of
funding
from
the
Federal
funding
that
we're
receiving
these
type
funds
are
usually
to
replace
in
place
in
kind.
However,
sidewalks
will
be
included
in
these.
We
part
of
the
the
approach
that
UDOT
is
taking
is
using
standardized
plans
to
cut
cost
and
through
economy
of
scale,
bid
out
multiple
Bridges
with
the
same
contractor.
Y
So
there's
a
lot
of
stipulations
that
were
under
because
of
the
funding,
but
what
that
will
allow
us
to
do
is
in
in
the
example
of
the
650
North
Bridge,
we've
already
been
in
Communications,
with
you.
they're,
aware
of
our
600
700
North
Corridor
reconstruction,
and
that
they
will
incorporate
the
the
necessary
items
in
that
design
to
go
hand
inand
with
what
we're
proposing
so
those
things
and
those
discussions
have
already
been
made.
A
Those
all
right,
I
think
is
that
the
last
item
you
have
Ben.
Okay,
we
should
move
on
to
board
appointments
so
that
we
can
let
those
people
that
are
waiting
go
and
that
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
for
break
before
formal.
So
we
are
making
three
more
board
appointments
to
interviews
today.
The
first
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
Turner
bitten.
The
second
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
library
board
for
sah
Toronto,
and
the
third
is
another
board
appointment
to
the
library
board
for
Daryl
schmi
I.
Z
Z
This
time
is
that
I
believe
fundamentally
in
the
important
role
in
in
land
use
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
and
I
tried
to
move
to
Salt
Lake
City
three
times
and
I
understand
that
as
a
growing
city
we
Face
a
lot
of
pressures
and
balancing
a
lot
of
different
interests
and
I
have
kind
of
a
guiding
commitment
that
we
should
be
making
opport
for
more
folks
to
live
in
the
city
and
take
advantage
of
everything
that
living
here
means
I'm.
Originally
from
Ogden
and
yeah.
Just
deep
commitment
to
the
city.
F
Z
A
Okay,
you're
right
when
I
was
on
the
Planning
Commission,
it
was
free
work,
pretty
sure
it's
still
EV
essentially
free
work,
but
thank
you.
It
certainly
isn't
true
compensation
for
an
a
professionals
time,
but
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
you're
going
to
be
on
our
consent
agenda
tonight
for
official
appointment.
You
don't
need
to
attend
that,
but
that's
when
the
it'll
become
official
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Next
is
s
sah
Toronto
and
it
looks
like
you're
here
in.
A
AA
Sure
I'm
sah
Toronto
I'm
in
District,
Six,
hi
and
I
think
the
Salt
Lake
City
Public
Library
is
just
marvelous
I've
lived
here
for
about
7even
years
and
I've
been
you
know,
having
lived
in
some
larger
cities,
Seattle
and
New
York
and
really
participated
in
the
library's
off
offerings.
I
can
say:
Salt,
Lake's,
Public
Library
is
right
up
up
there
right
up
there
with
those
in
terms
of
the
programming
in
terms
of
the
Outreach
to
the
public.
My
family
has
been
very
engaged.
AA
A
I
agree
with
you:
libraries
are
important
y,
another
okay.
Thank
you.
You'll
you'll
also
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
Tonight
you
don't
need
to
attend,
but
that's
when
it
becomes
official.
Another
appointee
to
the
library
board
is
Daryl,
Schmick
and
I.
Believe
Daryl
is
joining
in
Zoom.
Did
you
hear
the
instructions
to
the
other
appointees.
U
All
right,
hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
Daryl
Schmick
I,
believe
I'm
in
District,
3
I
keep
looking
at
the
map
and
would
like
to
get
that
verified,
but
I'm.
Pretty
sure
that
that
Chris
is
my
city,
council
member,
it's
a
pleasure
to
go
ahead
and
be
with
you
all
today,
just
like
sah
I
am
excited
to
be
considered
for
the
library
board.
U
I've
lived
in
Salt,
Lake
City
on
and
off
since
2015
I
happen
to
know
how
vibrant
and
how
amazing
the
city
is,
and
I've
lived
in
other
places
such
as
Missouri
and
Texas
I'm
from
Colorado
originally
and
I
know
how
special
the
city
is
and
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
what
to
say,
volunteer
to
Whenever
However
I
can
for
our
beautiful
city.
Library
I
also
am
an
experienced.
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A
A
X
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
We
have
a
couple
of
announcements.
The
first
one
is
a
notification
of
removal
of
artworks
from
the
city's
public
art
collection.
This
is
sort
of
an
administrative
step
that
is
governed
by
city
ordinance,
and
so
the
administration
sent
a
transmitt
to
the
Council
Office
on
August,
8th
with
all
the
information
in
there.
X
So
if
you're
interested
in
finding
out
more
on
that,
that's
where
it
is,
and
then
let
us
know
if
you
have
questions
feedback
needed
for
November
and
December
Council
meetings
so
because
the
election
date
was
changed
from
when
we
first
set
the
calendar
in
January
to
November
21st.
You
do
have
a
council
meeting
scheduled
on
that
day.
Historically,
the
council
has
tried
not
to
meet
on
election
day
just
to
preserve
opportunities
for
people
to
vote.
Are
you
okay?
L
G
T
X
The
Phoenix
part-
let's
see
the
December
meeting,
is
complicated.
Just
because
of
we
are
not
confident.
Not
not
positive.
I
should
say
that
the
county
will
have
information
back
to
the
council
by
December
5th,
which
is
your
current
council
meeting
that
you
have
scheduled
for
that
day.
So
we're
wondering
if
the
council
can
earmark
or
set
aside
December
6th,
if
needed,
to
convene
briefly
as
the
board
of
canvassers
to
certify
the
election
results.
It's
a
Wednesday
and-
and
we
would
be
flexible
on
timing
and.
R
A
X
R
X
So
we'll
set
aside
four
o'clock,
if
you
guys
could
mentally
have
that
in
your
calendar,
we'll
send
out
an
appointment
for
4
o'clock
to
4:45
this.
The
last
announcement
is
the
citizens
compensation
advisory
committee.
The
council
has
several
seats
that
the
council,
unlike
other
boards,
that
the
council
appoints
Direct
directly
to
the
CCAC,
to
advise
on
HR
matters
in
the
city.
Typically,
the
person
has
Human
Resources
expertise
or
Labor
related
expertise.
Ben
ly
sent
an
email
to
you
guys
at
1210
today
with
three
resumés.
X
What
the
chair
and
vice
chair
have
kind
of
recommended
is
that
a
subcommittee
from
the
council
either
review
those
résumés
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
council,
or
you
know
they
decide
to
meet
with
those
people.
Are
there
any
council
members
interested
in?
But
everyone,
of
course,
is
interested
in
reviewing
the
resumés
and
making
a
recommendation.
There's
only
one
vacancy
right
now,
so
there's
three
people
that
HR
has
recommended
for
the
one
slot.
So
anyone
interested
in
serving
on
a
subcommittee
for.