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Historic Landmark Commission Meeting - 08/04/2022
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A
G
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G
And
there's
also
another
one
in
there,
the
former
findel's
ice
cream
parlor
now
the
pizza
place
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
express
that
to
you,
I'm
as
usual
running
late.
You
know
that
about
me,
but
I
will
get
back
to
you
with
something
in
writing,
especially
about
the
relationship
between
the
bass
zone
and
the
overlay
zone,
because
we
have
two
more
big
projects
coming
at
you
fairly
soon
in
the
central
city,
historic
district
thanks.
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H
The
subject
property
is
a
contributing
structure
within
the
university
local
historic
district
due
to
the
it's
okay,
due
to
the
four
of
the
requested
windows
and
their
location
on
the
primary
elevation
staff
is
recommending
a
partial
approval
and
a
partial
denial.
In
this
case,
the
proposed
replacement
windows
are
a
pella
aluminum,
clad.
H
So
the
property
located
at
1124
east
has
had
some
minor
changes
over
the
years.
However,
it
is
considered
contributing
to
the
district.
The
alterations
include
the
removal
of
the
transom
window
in
that
central
window
combination.
It's
a
stained
glass
window.
It
has
been
replaced
with
just
a
clear
glass
and
the
columns
and
the
balustrades
have
also
been
removed.
H
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B
H
H
H
H
The
applicant
suggests
that
the
door
is
not
original
because
of
the
the
frame
and
the
door
does
not
fit
within
the
frame
with
the
archive
photo
that
I
showed
earlier.
It
is
actually
difficult
to
see
whether
or
not
this
door
is
original
and
with
a
lack
of
evidence.
Staff
is
supporting
the
replacement
of
the
door
with
the
proposed
door,
which
is
a
full
light.
H
As
far
as
our
recommendations,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
it's
a
in
part,
denial
and
impart
approval
staff
is
recommending
that
the
historic
landmark
commission
denied
the
requested
four
front
windows
and
a
proven
part.
The
windows
located
on
the
east
west,
south
elevation,
as
well
as
the
front
door.
F
H
H
H
Commissioner,
delay
asked
if
staff
would
support
a
sash
kit
staff
has
support,
supported,
stash
kits
sash
kits
in
the
past.
It's
when
that
there's
when
there
is
a
good
information
and
solid
evidence
of
beyond
repair.
Essentially
so
obviously
the
lower
left
sash
that's
missing
and
broken.
That
would
be
an
eligible
sash
kit.
J
I
I
We
shopped
around
a
lot
my
wife
and
I
are
looking
to
retire
here,
our
daughter
here,
so
my
daughter,
noah
who's,
currently
going
to
school
at
the
university
of
utah
she's
staying
in
the
house,
while
my
wife
and
I
finish
our
tour
of
duty,
which
will
end
in
three
years,
we
are
currently
stationed
in
lagos,
nigeria,
which
I
flew
back
for
this
hearing
and
to
oversee
the
procedures.
Here.
I
I
Picture
that
was
a
stained
glass
window
above
that
is
no
longer
there.
Those
windows
are
paper
thin.
Those
windows
have
been
the
window.
Panes
themselves
have
been
replaced
because
they're,
not
the
old,
traditional
beveled,
wavy
glass.
They
are
not
they're
paper
thin
and
the
picture
with
the
broken
window
was
her
dog
oreo
pawed
the
window
and
it
broke
like
that
and
sliced
his
paw
open.
So
those
windows
are
very
inadequate.
I
The
ones
in
the
back
are
you
can
see
daylight
through
them.
Two
other
ones
on
the
side
have
been
redone
by
the
previous
owner,
who
was
a
self-proclaimed
wood
craftsman
and
made
those
windows
and
put
them
in
on
two
sides,
and
he
also
did
the
same
thing
with
the
front
door,
which
does
not
fit
there's
a
probably
three
quarters
of
an
inch
gap
on
the
front,
probably
quarter
inch
on
both
sides
and
probably
a
good
half
inch
on
the
bottom,
where
that
door.
I
There
was
daylight
through
this,
so
that
door,
and
if
you
look
at
that
front
door,
it's
a
very
nice
looking
door,
but
he
obviously
chiseled
chiseled
at
it
and
and
made
it
customized
for
what
he
wanted.
So
that
door
does
not
fit
so
we
want
to
replace
that
door,
so
we
are
replacing
it
in
the
kind
highest
standard
available.
I
Our
bill
is
well
over
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
those
for
those
windows.
They
need
to
be
done.
Those
windows
are
totally
inadequate.
Storm
windows
would
just
put
a
band-aid
over
over
the
wound.
They
would
not
look
as
good
and
again
we're
not
buying.
We
did
not
buy
this
house
to
flip
it
and
sell
it.
We
bought
this
house
because
my
wife
and
I
want
to
stay
here.
We
love,
we
love
the
mountains.
She
was
born
in
montana.
I
We
love
the
mountains,
utah's
little
friendlier
weather
than
montana
winners,
and
we
we
love
it
here.
This
will
be
our
home
until
we
are
until
she
puts
us
away,
and
so
we
want
to
do
things
right.
We
want
to
do
this
right,
we're
trying
to
do
the
right
thing,
we're
trying
to
be
energy
efficient,
and
this
is
just
the
the
start
of
it.
When
we
bought
the
house,
it
was
inadequately
insulated.
I
That
the
the
roof
sealed
that
up,
we
put
a
new
furnace
in
new
air
conditioning
unit,
again
state
of
the
art
energy
efficient.
We
need
to
button
this
house
up
and
seal
these
windows
and
then
from
there
we're
going
to
redo
some
some
minor
cosmetics
inside
to
modernize
it
and
to
make
it
efficient
and
to
make
it.
I
I
It's
our
home,
and
we
really
need
these
windows
and
again
looking
through
everything
they're
of
the
kind.
So
these
windows
will
be
it'll.
Look
exactly
like
that,
if
not
better,
because
they'll
all
be
green
and-
and
I
ask
you
guys-
drive
by
and
take
a
look
at
those
windows-
and
you
tell
me
if
they're
adequate
for
the
21st
century,
that
we
live
in,
that
those
windows
are
adequate
and
that
putting
some
storm
windows
over
them
would
fix
the
problem.
So
that's
really
all
I
have
to
present.
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L
My
dog,
all
you
had
to
do,
was
jump
up
and
it
shattered
the
window
and
it
cut
almost
his
entire
pad
off
and
we
spent
a
whole
day
in
the
vet
and
it
was
a
horrible
experience
and
it
was
a
direct
result
of
these
windows.
I
have
two
two-year-old
nephews.
I
have
friends
also
with
toddlers
and
I've
seen
them
hit
things
with
a
greater
force
than
my
dog
jumped
up
at
that
window.
I
do
not
want
to
be
responsible
for
an
injured
toddler
because
of
how.
L
Rickety
these
windows-
you
are
you,
I
could
say
I
don't
believe,
they're
original.
If
you
go
back
to
look
at
that
stained
glass,
that's
no
longer
there.
I
believe
when
they
replace
that
stained
glass,
the
current
window
panes
we
have
are,
like
my
dad
was
saying-
is
they're
very,
very
thin,
like
they're,
like
maybe
two
centimeters
thin,
and
it
took
a
very
light
push
for
my
dog
to
have
it
break
on
him
and
I'm
I'm
we
had
to
at
the
moment.
L
L
I
From
from
addition
to
that,
so
to
help
with
the
winters
and
summers
those
windows
are
currently
covered
with
home
depot
plastic
blow
dried
to
help
insulate,
which,
which
is
a
nice
right
again.
We
can't
really
use
those
windows,
we
can't
open
them.
We
can't
close
them,
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
We
can
do
with
them.
We're
kind
of
stuck
with
these
windows
and.
I
They
need
to
be,
they
need
to
be
changed,
they
need,
they
need
upgrading,
I
mean
they're,
totally
inadequate
and
again,
if
you
looked
at
the
wood,
the
wood
has
been
painted
over
multiple
times.
There's
nicks,
there's
gouges,
there's
there's
decay
there
they're
120
years
old,
they're,
they're,
they've
they've
served
their
purpose
and
it's
time
I
believe,
to
move
on
and
we
are
planning
on
moving
on
in
the
right
direction
by
replacing
them
in
the
kind
so
they'll
be
as
good
as
new.
K
K
K
I've
assessed
over
1200
homes
worth
of
windows
here
in
the
salt
lake
valley,
many
of
those
very
old
homes
and
it's
my
professional
opinion
that
these
are
not
original
windows
because
they
don't
match
the
profile
or
the
construction
type
of
windows.
From
the
time
period
this
house
was
built,
I
would
postulate
that
they
were
probably
replaced
in
the
50s
or
60s
based
on
the
glass,
so
sash
replacement.
K
The
idea
of
replacing
a
single
sash
is
not
really
it's
not
a
respected
method
in
our
industry,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
it's
a
terrible
band-aid
right.
I
have
to
go
and
fabricate
a
square
based
on
what
is
most
certainly
no
longer
a
square
frame
right,
so
it's
going
to
get
in
there.
It's
probably
not
going
to
operate.
Well,
it's
not
going
to
seal
well,
which
means
it's
going
to
let
in
water,
which
means
it's
going
to
let
in
mold,
which
means
bugs
are
going
to
get.
K
K
We
use
a
four
layer,
waterproofing
process,
it's
the
best
in
the
industry,
and
on
top
of
that
I
can
definitely
attest
that
these.
These
windows
are
specifically
designed
for
this
sort
of
application.
You
know
they
call
it
aluminum,
clad,
it's
not
really
aluminum,
it's
mostly
wood
right.
The
whole
frame
is
wood.
The
interior
is
all
wood.
K
There's
a
thin
layer
of
aluminum
cladding
on
the
outside
to
sort
of
protect
it
from
the
elements
which
you
really
need
in
utah
because
it
gets
really
hot
and
then
it
gets
really
cold.
It
gets
dry
and
then
it
gets
wet
it's
terrible
environment
for
wood
right.
So
you
really
do
and
you
can
actually
see
on
their
windows
how
it's
sort
of
rotted
out
and
deteriorated
over
the
years.
K
That
said,
we
took
great
pains
to
to
match
the
colors
right
and
to
keep
it
consistent,
because
that's
what
we
do
we
do
this
professionally,
so
we're
going
to
put
the
best
possible
windows
and
the
best
looking
windows
in
the
front
it'll
be
safer,
it'll
be
warmer,
it'll
actually
be
livable.
I
think
so,
and
that
needs
to
happen
everywhere
in
the
house.
It
can't
just
happen
on
three
walls,
so
in
order
for
it
to
be
really
energy
efficient,
so
that's
all
I
have
for
you.
I
K
It's
I
mean
they're,
just
they're
in
atrocious
shape,
it's
terrible
I've.
I
felt
bad.
I
don't
often
feel
bad
walking
into
someone's
house
right
like
a
lot
of
times.
It's
just
like.
Oh,
we
need
an
aesthetic
update
or
we
need
some
kind
of.
But
here
it
was
it's
terrible.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
very
good.
K
F
F
I
I
As
an
engineer,
this
is
what
she
does
she's
a
project
director
for
the
state
department
of
the
united
states,
and
I
just
want
you
guys.
We
went
to
great
lengths
to
make
sure
that
these
are
same
in
kind
and
chris
has
assured
us
over
and
over
that
they
are.
They
went
to
great
lengths,
they're
still
being
built.
This
was
back
in
november
december
of
2021
last
year
last
year,
it's
hard
to
keep
track
of
the
days,
and
so
it's
taken
them
months
to
build
these.
These
windows,
so
they're
they're,
built
to
exact
specifications.
C
A
K
B
L
Also,
could
I
say
something
real
quick
as
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
staring
at
this
photo
of
the
you
know
the
archive
photo,
the
hat
the
the
window.
That's
on
the
porch.
That
looks
like
stained
glass
that
if
you
can
see
it
this,
I
should
see
that
right
there.
That
looks
like
stained
glass
to
me.
I
haven't
really
looked
at
this
photo
that
much,
but
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
sorry
I
was
just.
A
I
I
We
that's
what
we
shopped
for
and
that's
what
we
wanted
before.
We
knew
we
did
not
know
after
purchase
after
sitting
down
with
him
and
several
others
and
then
finalizing
with
with
chris.
We
did
not
know
that
we
needed
approval
from
the
natural
natural
historical
society.
We
did
not
know
that
so
we
had.
We
have
already
purchased
these
windows
and
they
are
being
made
as
we
speak.
M
C
I
Are
I
I'm
not
a
idol?
That's
probably
not
the
right
word,
probably
not,
as
as
a
committee
to
preserve
houses,
that
if
we
put
a
brand
new
state-of-the-art
window
that
matched
in
the
kind
would
help
preserve
that
house
for
another
hundred
years
down
the
road
as
opposed
to
slapping
on
something
else.
I
mean
that
was
our
thing,
that
this
is
why
we
we
did
what
we
did
as
opposed
to
saying,
yeah.
Well,
let's
put
storm
windows
on
you
know.
I
L
The
storm
windows
don't
address
the
issue
of
the
interior
side
of
the
windows
that
injured
my
dog
and
will
most
likely
injure
another
dog
or
a
toddler.
That's
what
my
main
concern
is
is
that
if
you
put
storm
windows,
that's
not
addresses
that
safety
problem,
because
this
is
a
safety
problem
too,
and.
A
G
I
always
like
to
set
reasonable
expectations
for
the
contractors
who
work
for
me,
and
so
I
go
to
the
trainings.
There
have
been
four
and
they
have
generated
quite
a
few
people
who
do
historic
windows
in
salt
lake,
in
addition
to
the
company.
That's
well
known,
that
has
operated
here
for
quite
a
while.
I
have
also,
as
part
of
my
business
done,
single
sash
replacements,
which
was
very
cost
effective
in
one
of
my
rental
properties.
I
think
the
issue
with
the
broken
glass
probably
has
to
do
with
single
strength.
Glass.
G
Ironically,
in
the
third
window
workshop
I
went
to
which
also
had
a
storm
window
component.
One
of
my
favorite
attendees
lives
right
across
the
street
from
this
property.
He
built
storm
windows
for
his
house.
They
are
quite
beautiful,
so
my
point
is:
is
that
the
resources
in
salt
lake
are
actually
increasing
every
few
years,
because
these
workshops
have
occurred.
The
last
one
I
went
to
was
at
the
preservation
conference
on
a
saturday
was
well
attended,
maxed
out
in
terms
of
registration.
G
G
G
A
I
That
door
is
not
the
original
door
it
was
made
by.
I
think
right,
and
that
being
said,
we
could
feasibly
get
an
approved
panel
door
and
put
that
door
that
we
purchased,
because
he
did
the
same
thing
with
the
back
door,
which
is
even
worse,
but
that's
not
as
big
as
a
problem,
because
it's
surrounded
by
a
partial
porch.
I
So
we
can-
and
my
wife
and
I
talked
about
this-
we
can
feasibly
get
an
approved
door
that
was
suitable
to
this
to
this
committee
and
put
that
in
the
front
and
take
the
door
that
we
have
already
purchased
and
install
that
in
the
back.
So
that
is
thank
you.
I
am.
We
are
willing
to
work
with
you
with
with
everything
here,
but
it
again,
I'm
going
to
I've
said
this
from
the
from
the
get
go
very
well.
I
A
D
A
To
I
want
to
start
the
discussion
and
I
want
to
break
this
down
into
parts.
There
are
10
windows.
There
are
six
windows
that
are
not
at
issue:
correct:
okay,
there's
a
door
issue,
there's
a
door
that
there's
an
issue
that's
been
brought
up,
but
that,
but
the
recommendation
that's
been
given
by
staff
that
indicated
that,
since
the
door
was
not
original,
the
replacement
would
be
would
be
acceptable
as
presented
by
the
applicant.
That's
my
understanding
of
this.
A
What's
a
real
issue,
I
believe,
in
addition
to
the
door,
which
may
or
may
not
be
an
issue
after
discussion,
has
to
do
with
the
four
windows
that
are
on
the
primary
elevation.
So,
let's,
let's
start
with
the
easy
ones,
everybody's
in
agreement
that
the
six
windows
are
fine,
there's
no
discussion
about
those
there.
So,
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
door
since
it's
been
brought
up,
is
there?
Is
there
a
discussion
concerning
the
front
door.
H
A
C
A
And
and
correct
me,
if
I
go
astray
here
lindsey,
because
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
question,
then
it
feels
like
that,
because
the
original
door
was
not
because
the
door
that
was
there
was
not
original
the
replacement
of
of
that
door
being
something
like
like
what
is
this,
this
wooden
glass?
That's
why
it
fell
under
the
recommendation
that
this
that
door
that
was
presented
by
the
applicant
was
acceptable.
C
C
A
A
C
H
A
M
M
M
M
I
understand
that
I
have
a
large
picture
window
at
my
house
and
it
would
be
bad
if
that
thing
broke,
but
there's
ways
to
mitigate
that
without
replacing
the
windows
so
and
I
I
do
think,
there's
a
good
case
for
storms.
I
don't
think
that
they're
necessarily
unattractive
they're,
also
historically
appropriate,
like
back
in
1900
people
put
the
storms
on
in
the
fall
and
put
this
put
the
screens
on
in
the
spring.
That's
just
kind
of
part
of
the
natural
rhythm
of
the
season.
So.
M
J
Like
to
make
a
comment,
I
I
kind
of
come
down
different
on
that.
I
I
look
at
the
standard.
You
know
the
historic
character
of
property
shall
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
historic
materials
or
alteration,
features
and
spaces
that
characterize
property
shall
be
avoided,
seems
to
me
like
number
one.
J
It's
still
going
to
look
like
the
same
glass
structure,
the
same
structure
to
it,
you
know,
is
it
the
original
wood?
No,
it's
not
the
original
wood,
I'm
not
sure
the
original
wood.
That's
there
now
and
I
just
don't
think
that
it's
that
it
materially
changes
the
character
of
the
property.
You
know
where
the
historic
character,
I
don't
see
being
changed
by
these
kind
of
windows
coming
in,
especially
when
you're
putting
them
on
most
of
the
house
anyway.
So
I
would.
C
B
B
B
J
J
G
F
J
F
J
Still
got
a
historic
house,
it
looks
the
same.
It's
going
to
have
the
same.
Double
hung
windows.
It's
going
to.
I
just
don't
think
it's
material
enough
that
we
can
require
that
people
never
upgrade
certain
aspects
of
a
house
so
anyway,
I
did.
I
disagree
with
that,
but
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
now,
I'm
not
opposed
to
look
I
put
in
some
pillow
windows.
Recently
in
a
house
I
just
renovated
and
and
the
aluminum
ones
are.
J
You
know
you
kind
of
have
to
go
up
and
look
to
know
the
difference
sometimes,
but
are
they?
Are
they
wood
on
the
inside?
Are
they
looming
on
both
sides
right?
It's
just
cloud
on
the
outside
and
you
know
they're
such
a
good
product
these
days,
I
I
but
if,
but
if
it,
but
if
it
got
this
commission's
vote,
I
would
I'm
not
opposed
to
having
them
be
wood
on
both
sides,
but
I
would
let
them
replace
the
windows.
B
Generally,
these
old
original
windows
are
old
growth
wood.
If
you've
restored
a
window
which
you
know
I
have,
she
has
it's
pretty
amazing.
Once
you
take
an
eco
stripper,
you
can
grab
your
carbide
scraper
and
see
the
most
distressed
window
and
have
this
zen
moment
where,
honestly,
there
is
perfect
for
underneath
there.
So
it's
about
retaining
original
materials
and
also
retaining
architectural
features
that
we
still
have
that
make
this
a
significant
contributing
building.
B
Certainly,
if
the
applicant
were
to
find
a
skilled
contractor,
get
that
eco
stripper.
Honestly,
we
have
some
in
the
office
and
we're
going
to
start
handing
those
out
to
the
public
and
they
find
some
serious
deterioration.
We're
not
going
to
say.
Oh
no,
absolutely
you
have
to
put
in
a
dry
rot,
rotted
window.
We
would
help
them
with
epoxy.
B
C
A
So
I'm
gonna-
I'm
gonna,
do
this
here,
I'm
just
going
to
read
from
from
page
39
of
the
report.
The
north
elevation
front
windows.
The
four
windows
proposed
for
replacement
are
considered
to
be
a
character
defining
to
the
structure.
We
all
agree
on
that
the
windows
are
original
to
the
property,
may
or
may
not
be
original,
but
they
are
wood
windows.
A
I
will
will
say
that
I've
been
like,
like
you,
john
we've:
we've
replaced
in
kind
wood
for
wood
on
on
many
historical
projects,
large
and
small
wood,
for
what
we've
we've
done.
That
is
it.
Is
it
more
expensive?
Indeed
it
is,
but
it
is
just
from
what
I'm
reading
here
about
that.
You
know
when
I
look
at
this
picture
of
this
building.
Those
windows
are
the
defining
character
of
this
home
period.
I
mean
it.
Just
is
robert.
I
will
just
say
that
aluminum
clad
wood
windows.
A
I
would
say
that
if
you
don't
look
closely,
they
do,
but
if
you
do
think,
I
think
they
do
look
a
little
bit
different
and
so
it's
it's
your
comment.
It's
material
for
material
and
that's
that's
what
we're
that's
what's
been
in
place
in
front
of
us.
That's
what
we're
defining
that's!
That's
my
my
take
and
understanding
of
where
we
are.
F
F
But
the
original
house
was
cedar
shakes,
but
they
don't
last
as
long
they
take
more
maintenance,
they're,
more
expensive
they're.
Using
up
an
environmental
research.
I
mean
environmental
resource,
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
we
wouldn't
have
a
problem
with
a
roof
replacement
right.
Look
at
the
house
there
and
you
see
an
unreinforced
masonry
chimney,
which
another
branch
of
the
city
would
like
to
see
that
taken
down.
So
it's
not
a
seismic
hazard.
B
H
B
H
Real
straightforward:
please
I'm
I'm
here.
There
are
components
of
historic
structures
and
contemporary
structures
that
are
sacrificial
materials
right.
A
roof
is
a
sacrificial
material.
It's
there
to
serve
a
purpose
for
x
number
of
years,
and
then
it
needs
to
be
replaced.
Historic
wood
windows
were
not
constructed
to
be
sacrificial.
Materials
they've
survived
three
times
as
long
as
traditional
roofs
right
without
being
replaced.
H
Typically
they're
replaced
because
it's
fashionable
or
a
sash
breaks
and
it's
the
easier
option
than
to
repair,
but
the
way
that
they
were
constructed
was
so
that
there
could
be
intervention
right
each
window.
You
could
conduct
an
intervention
and
correct
whatever
issue
is
occurring
with
that
window.
Roofs.
Yes,
you
can
have
an
intervention,
but
you
can
only
have
so
many
and
then
you
just
need
a
new
roof
right
windows.
You
can
do
dutchmans,
you
can
do
a
lower
sash
replacement.
H
K
H
A
D
Sure
I
actually
lean
somewhat
towards
robert's
point
of
view
and
to
kenton's
point
of
view
on
materials
and
that
certain
elements
of
building
may
be
sacrificial
and
meant
for
replacement.
But
if
our
focus
is
on
materials,
then
it
should
be
replaced
with
the
same
material.
So
I
I
don't
find
that
being
convincing.
D
I
I
in
reading
the
report
and
the
standard,
is
it
as
it's
written
or
more
so
perhaps
the
way
it's
phrased
in
the
report
that
it's
a
character
defining
feature
for
me.
It's
not
so
much
the
material
that
defines
the
house
as
the
appearance
overall
and
and
wood
and
aluminum
does
have
a
slightly
different
appearance.
D
But
if
the
windows
in
this
building
were
painted
green,
like
the
frames
were,
I
don't
think
that
any
of
us
would
know
the
difference.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
I
do
wish
that
the
report
had
some
close-ups
of
the
condition
of
the
window
frame
so
that
we
could
get
a
better
idea
of
what
the
material
condition
is
and
some
sense
of
what
we
are
discussing,
because
at
this
point
in
time
it's
it's
a
bit
abstract.
We
rely
on
your
expertise
and
that's
great.
We
definitely
should,
but
some
visual
evidence
of
that
would
be
beneficial.
D
D
I
I
don't
think
a
full
light
is
quite
historically
appropriate.
A
three-quarter
light
is
1909
construction,
that
time
frame,
three-quarter
light
glass
doors
were
not
uncommon
in
the
avenues
and
other
areas
of
the
city,
but
I
I
have
less
concern
actually
about
the
windows.
Acknowledging
that
wood
would
be
great.
C
C
I
think
we're
here
to
to
look
at
the
ordinance
and
how
this
matches
up,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
discussion
to
have,
because
I
think
yes
recreating
the
past
versus
preserving.
That
is
an
interesting,
interesting
discussion
and
preservationists
can
get
a
little
narrow-minded
at
times.
I
do
believe
or
very
very
steadfast,
and
you
have
to
have
fi
keep
that
balance
between
the
past
and
the
present
and
looking
towards
the
future.
So
the
comment
as
much
as
anything.
F
J
B
But
it
is
the
city
code
and
we
do
have
design
guidelines
so
that
we
stay
consistent
with
city
policy,
which
is
guidance.
You
should
repair
before
replace
secondary
tertiary
facades.
We
can
be
much
more
flexible
on
preserve
character,
defining
features
such
as
windows
and
doors
and
other
components,
because
they
affect
the
physical
integrity
of
the
building.
B
B
A
C
D
M
M
In
part
for
replacement
of
the
windows
located
on
the
eastern
western
and
southern
elevations
and
the
front
door,
the
commission
finds
that
these
windows
in
front
door
comply
with
the
standards
of
approval
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
alterations
to
a
contributing
structure
located
at
1243,
east
200
south.
Based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
historic
landmark
commission
denied
the
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
pln
hlc,
2022-00367.
J
A
F
A
D
A
F
C
B
N
All
right
good
evening,
commission,
my
name
is
grant
ayman,
I'm
from
salt
lake
city
planning
and
zoning.
I'm
excited
to
present
item
number
two
for
you
tonight
architect,
david
richardson,
representing
the
property
owner,
is
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
reconstruction
of
a
garage
with
the
addition
of
an
over
garage
adu
in
its
place
at
204,
north
canyon,
road.
The
existing
garage
will
be
demolished
as
part
of
this
proposal.
N
As
part
of
this
request,
the
applicant
is
seeking
relief
from
the
following
city
standards.
A
10-foot
side.
Setback
along
the
north
property
line
applicant
is
proposing
three
feet
to
remain
in
line
with
the
setback
of
the
garage,
a
10
foot,
adu
side
setback
along
the
same
north
property
line
applicant
is
proposing
six
feet
for
the
second
story:
a
height
increase
of
one
foot
for
a
total
of
21
feet.
Staff
is
recommending.
The
commission
approve
the
request
with
one
condition:
the
property
is
a
contributing.
N
N
You
can
also
see
the
surrounding
context
for
the
proposed
structure,
including
the
home,
directly
east
of
the
garage,
as
well
as
spencer
court,
which
is,
in
fact
a
private
road,
despite
its
width
and
its
appearance,
similar
to
a
to
an
alley
here,
you
will
see
the
property
as
viewed
from
spencer
court
looking
west,
with
the
existing
garage
to
be
removed
on
the
left
and
the
neighboring
residential
space
to
remain
on
the
right.
This
residential
space
is
also
a
secondary
residential
space
for
its
lot,
since
the
principal
structure
of
the
lot
also
fronts
on
canyon.
N
Road
here
is
a
view
of
the
garage
from
the
street.
As
you
can
tell,
there's
ample
vegetation
in
space
between
the
garage
and
the
right
of
way.
It
makes
it
hard
to
see
there
and,
as
you
can
tell,
the
property
is
a
corner
lot
of
fronts
on
canyon,
road.
It
is
victorian,
eclectic
and
built
in
1900
out
of
regular
brick.
This
structure
is
contributing.
N
N
N
D
N
You
can
see
that
yeah
further
from
the
property
line
than
the
first
floor
garage.
The
first
floor
garage
is
proposed
to
maintain
the
three
foot
setback
of
the
existing
garage.
The
first
floor
contains
no
residential
space,
the
second
floor
adu.
The
second
adu
floor
will
be
set
further
back
at
six
feet
from
the
property
line,
and
then
staff
is
recommending
approval,
as
the
three
foot
main
level
will
maintain.
The
current
setback
without
the
need
to
place
the
adu
closer
to
the
right-of-way
than
the
principal
structure
is
and
then.
N
Finally,
as
seen
in
the
staff
report,
staff
found
that
the
proposed
building
does
meet
the
guidelines
and
standards
for
minor
alterations
in
the
historic
district
and
attachment
e
further
discusses
these.
The
proposed
material
and
design
will
coordinate
with
the
fourth
avenue
wealth
that
is
across
the
street
to
the
west
of
the
property
staff
has
received
no
public
comments
regarding
this
structure
and
then
based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
N
C
A
O
My
name
is
david
richardson,
I'm
the
architect
representing
the
owner.
Here
I
want
to
thank
you,
everyone
here
for
volunteering,
your
time
after
seven
years
on
your
side
of
the
table.
It's
really
nice
to
be
back
on
this
side,
and
I
I
say
this
every
time
I've
been
on
this
side
of
the
table
that
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
for
continuing
to
support
historic
preservation
by
making
this
process
the
landmarks
process
essentially
free
to
the
applicants.
O
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
thing
that
the
city
does
grant.
Your
presentation
was
fantastic.
Thank
you.
I
only
have
two
things
that
I'd
like
to
elaborate
on,
and
one
is-
and
this
is
ironic
for
me
personally
for
those
of
you
who
knew
me
on
the
commission-
the
the
our
client
really
likes
that
well
house
and
they
think
it's
they
really
do
they
really
like
it.
They
like
them.
They
hard.
O
O
O
O
It'll
be
the
colors
shown
in
the
drawing,
so
that's
what
they
chose.
We
didn't
want
it
to
match
the
main
house.
The
other
thing
is
that
we
we
really
tried
to
be
sensitive,
it's
a
tight
lot
and
the
lot's
much
smaller
than
it
appears
because
the
the
public
right-of-way
is
very
large
there.
It
showed
on
the
one
of
the
early
drawings,
one
of
the
earlier
photos.
Here
we
really
try
to
be
sensitive
to
the
existing.
It
really
is
an
adu
to
the
north
of
this
property
and
well.
O
A
G
G
So
yes,
it
is
so
the
the
width
of
this
lot
is
an
issue
and
the
other
thing-
and
this
is
just
a
personal
thing-
that
I
have
to
mention-
the
the
framing
in
wood
around
the
windows-
is
what
we
commonly
see
in
older
houses.
When
people
buy
windows
that
don't
match
the
size
of
the
opening,
I
understand
why
these
windows,
based
on
the
interior
use,
aren't
the
size
of
the
opening.
G
I
also
understand
that
they're
trying
to
break
up
the
blank
wall,
but
it's
just
one
of
my
nerves,
about
old
houses
that
I
like
the
windows
to
match
the
size
of
the
opening.
It's
very
old-fashioned
of
me.
I
I
think
that
maybe
something
other
than
wood
which
won't
hold
up
in
our
charming
climate,
well
might
work
here.
There
are
three
of
them
and
I
have
different
responses
to
each
the
three
which
I
won't
impose
on
you.
It's
just
one
of
my
obsessions
thanks.
B
A
C
C
E
E
B
F
F
A
Well,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
take
a
higher
level
here
and
I
I
don't.
I
don't
have
any
any
any
issues
with
the
detailing.
That's
that's
really
an
architectural
detail.
I
think
at
a
at
a
higher
level
at
the
20
000
foot
I
very
much
applaud
and
and
laud
the
adus
I
just
just
there's,
there's
just
a
basic
basic
need
in
in
paying
attention
to
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
uli
and
others
with,
even
despite
all
of
the
construction
of
residential
that
has
happened.
A
Over
the
last
three
years,
we've
gained
about
10
to
11
000
units,
we're
still
30
000
units
shy
of
where
we'd
like
to
be,
despite
all
of
the
construction
that
we
see
coming
and
going.
You
know
from
home
to
our
offices.
So
I
I
applaud
adus.
I
think
that
the
the
densification
of
salt
lake
is
an
appropriate
thing
to
do,
and
this
feels
appropriate
in
in
it.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
motion,
commissioners.