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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - January 26, 2022
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - January 26, 2022
https://www.slc.gov/historic-preservation/
https://www.slc.gov/boards/historic-landmark-commission-agendas-minutes/
C
A
Okay,
given
that
we'll
we'll
start
the
meeting
now
welcome
to
the
salt
lake
city
planning
division,
the
planning
commission
meeting
for
january
22nd,
26th
2022-
I
don't
need
to
read
the
statement
of
meeting
off-site,
as
I
did
that
earlier
this
month,
so
we
will
just
kind
of
move
along
as
adrian
checks
in
a
report
of
the
chair.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
responding
to
the
attendance
requests,
I'm
so
timely
this
month,
and
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
As
I'm
sure
staff
does
report
of
the
vice
chair
maureen.
A
A
G
A
I
A
H
A
E
A
And
adrian,
yes,
okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all.
Moving
on
to
the
public
hearings
portion
of
our
agenda.
Our
first
item
up
is
an
adu
conditional
use
at
approximately
2
900,
south
and
900
east.
The
planner
tonight
is
chrissy
gilmore,
and
this
is
going
to
be
case.
Number
pln
pcm
2021-00930.
G
This
petition
for
conditional
use
is
for
an
adu
over
a
detached
two-car
garage
located
approximately
2900,
south
and
900
east.
The
subject
parcel
is
zoned,
7000,
single,
family,
residential
and
staff
is
recommending
that
the
commission
approve
the
request
with
conditions,
so
the
adu
will
be
located
in
the
rear
of
the
single
family,
the
rear
yard
of
the
single
family
home
above
a
new
two-top
new
detached
two-car
garage,
the
adu
will
be
650
square
feet
and
the
garage
is
proposed
at
720
square
feet.
G
The
ad
will
be
12
feet
from
the
side,
the
north
side,
property
line
and
10
feet
from
the
rear
property
line.
One
parking
stall
is
provided
for
the
adu
adjacent
to
the
structure
in
the
driveway,
though
the
property
is
located
within
a
fourth
mile
of
a
fixed
transit.
Stop
a
bus.
Stop
is
located
directly
in
front
of
the
house
and
would
not
require
additional
parking.
G
The
building
is
proposed
with
a
height
of
20
feet,
where
the
main
house
is
also
20
feet.
So
accessory
dwelling
units
can
be
above
the
17
feet,
foot
maximum
if
they
are,
but
they
can't
go
up
thick
as
long
as
they're.
The
same
height
as
the
main
house,
they
cannot
go
above
24
feet,
though,
so
that
is
why
this
one
is
allowed
to
go
up
to
20
feet,
because
the
main
residence
is
also
20
feet.
G
G
G
So,
as
far
as
public
comment
staff
received
several
public
comments
in
opposition
to
the
proposed
adu,
they
were
primarily
concerned
with
the
height
just
general
neighborhood
compatibility
and
then
concern
regarding
the
adu
being
used
as
a
short-term
rental.
So
staff
has
added
one
suggested
condition,
which
was
also
at
the
request
of
the
sugar
house
community
council.
G
That
makes
it
clear
that
neither
the
main
home
nor
the
adu
can
be
used
as
a
short-term
rental
and
then,
as
mentioned
earlier
planning,
staff
recommends
that
the
commission
approve
the
conditional
use
request
with
the
one
condition
the
proposal
meets
all
applicable
standards
in
the
staff
report.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
applicant
is
also
on
the
line.
K
G
Yeah-
and
you
are
correct
on
that-
we
do
the
ordinance
already
states
that
they
can't
have
a
short-term
rental.
This
is
really
the
request
of
the
community
council
to
make
that
extremely
clear,
that
it
cannot
be
used
as
a
short-term
rental
and
and
it's
up
to
the
condition,
the
commission,
if
you
want
to
include
that
or
not
but
yeah,
it
is
a
given
that
they
can't
have
a
short-term
rental.
K
It
just
seems
like
we're,
adding
paperwork
here,
where
we
don't
need
paperwork,
there's
already
a
prohibition
on
it.
Enforcement
is
a
different
question,
but
this
perfect
particular
recommendation
doesn't
seem
to
address
the
enforcement
potential
problem
and
I
think
the
applicant,
if
they're
on
the
line,
already
understands
that
that
is,
salt
lake
city
bylaws
existing.
L
A
A
A
A
M
Wonderful
I'll
answer,
andrea's
question:
we're
finding
that
people
turn
these
adus
into
airbnb
and
just
don't
tell
anybody
and
if
they
don't
get
reported,
then
enforcement
doesn't
know
about
it,
and
even
enforcement
has
a
very
difficult
time
really
enforcing
these.
So
it's
just
an
extra
notice
to
the
person
because
I'm
sure
they
don't
spend
their
time
reading
the
city
code.
M
M
We
have
comments
from
neighbors
attached
and
others
were
in
attendance
to
ask
questions.
It
was
confusing
because
the
request
was
for
a
650
square
foot,
adu
above
a
garage
to
be
constructed
because
of
the
size
of
the
garage
footprint.
There
were
two
storage
spaces
placed
in
the
garage,
although
one
had
the
water,
heater
and
toilet
and
sink,
which
seemed
strange
since
there's
a
bath
in
the
adu
above
and
the
adu
above
has
a
storage
unit
for
the
garage,
an
attempt
to
keep
the
adu
at
the
allowable
650
square
feet.
M
M
M
M
A
M
You
thanks.
There
was
a
conversation
about
lighting.
We've
had
adus
in
the
past
that
put
lots
of
lights
on
the
second
floor
and
they
shine
into
the
neighbor's
yards
and
that
bothers
the
neighbors.
So
we'd
ask
that
lights
be
for
the
most
part
on
the
first
level
to
shine
on
the
walkways
and
not
from
the
sofas
at
the
top.
M
F
E
Adu
structure,
the
prop
pretty
owner
previously
stated
to
me
that
he
wanted
to
build
just
a
garage
and
he
didn't
say
anything
about
an
adu,
and
who
knows
you
know
again,
he
may
want
to
do
that.
Airbnb,
I
would
would
like.
I
would
also
request
to
discuss
solutions
to
mitigate
the
impact,
should
this
be
approved
when
my
father
passed
away
two
years
ago.
At
that
time
I
chose
to
move
back
into
my
childhood
home,
where
I
grew
up,
because
it
was
the
place.
M
A
E
This
is
marcia
korack.
I
want
to
thank
the
planning
commission
for
this
opportunity.
I'm
adamantly
opposed
to
this
proposed
structure.
Please
refer
to
my
comments
of
10,
15,
21
and
119
of
this
year.
I
believe
this
presentation
failed
to
provide
the
positive
benefits
directly
to
me
and
my
neighbors.
It's.
It
appears.
This
proposal
only
benefits
the
property
owner
of
this
adu
financially,
and
otherwise.
Please
note
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
The
property
owner
has
not
contacted
me
or
my
neighbors
with
the
opportunity
to
discuss
offsets.
E
I
would
ask
the
commission
to
table
this
decision,
so
these
discussions
can
occur
in
hopes
of
a
resolution,
if
not
at
least,
consider
the
alternative
solution
solution
to
mitigate
the
impact
on
the
neighboring
properties.
The
structure
is
10
feet
from
my
property
line.
I
know
it
only
needs
to
be
eight
feet.
E
I'm
requesting
12
feet
from
my
property
line:
no
windows
on
the
west
side
of
the
structure,
mature
trees
planted
along
the
side
of
the
structure
on
all
sides
of
the
structure,
replace
a
six
foot,
vinyl
fence
with
an
eight
foot,
vinyl
fence
or
equal
or
greater
value,
not
a
two
story:
a
single
story
structure
with
a
garage
off
to
the
side.
This
is
very
emotional
for
me.
E
How
would
you
feel
if
you
were
me-
and
you
lived
here
for
65
years
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
having
a
two-story
towering
structure
built
that
will
invade
my
privacy,
my
quiet
enjoyment
of
my
property
and
you
have
no
control
over
it?
I
never
thought
that
everything
that
my
parents
and
I
worked
for
would
come
down
to
two
minutes.
I'm
the
property
owner
to
the
west
of
this
structure.
F
A
Okay,
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
comment
period.
I
will
just
kind
of
start
this
with
a
statement
that
I
understand.
I
understand
the
feelings
of
that
were
expressed
and
I'd
like
the
okay.
I
didn't
write
down
names,
I'm
sorry,
but
I'd
like
you
to
know
that
as
a
planning
commission,
we
are
unable
to
require
any
applicant
to
do
something
more
than
the
code,
so
you
requested
an
additional
setback.
A
K
My
concern
is:
if
we
modify
the
conditional
use
approval
to
have
a
particular
condition
about
airbnb
in
this
one,
and
then
we
don't
do
it
for
other
conditional
use
permits
that
we
send
a
very
mixed
message
as
to
how
serious
we
are
about
not
having
an
airbnb
that
sometimes
we're
serious
if
it's
in
the
sugar
house
district.
But
you
know
it's
over
in
the
central
ninth
we're
not
that
serious
about
it.
F
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
feedback.
If
you
don't
mind
me
amy,
just
jumping
in
on
that
one,
I
think
we
can
find
another
a
place
in
the
stafford
report
to
respond
to
that,
so
that
the
community
councils
or
neighbors
know
that
the
developer
applicant
knows
that
it
can
be
like
in
next
steps
or
we
can
address
it
somewhere
else.
So
it's
not
tied
to
the
condition.
A
L
L
G
H
H
H
A
K
B
A
N
A
I
A
H
A
B
B
B
B
B
Additionally,
there
is
parking
available
on
the
public
street
on
park
street,
and
then
we
have
a
site
plan
on
this
slide
here.
As
you
can
see,
the
adu
and
the
new
garage
will
be
accessible
from
the
city
alleyway
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
applicant
is
also
looking
to
install
a
new
driveway
along
the
northern
side
of
the
property
there
also
to
provide
access.
B
B
B
O
O
I
don't
know
what
what
I
could
add
caitlin.
I
submitted
to
you
a
a
more
updated,
a
site
plan,
but
that
was
for
purposes
of
of
utility
lines
and
I
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
or
discussed
now,
but
it's
sort
of
a
better
drawing
more
up-to-date,
less
superfluous
information
and
more
significant
important
information.
But
I
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
be
discussed
in
this
meeting
or
not.
J
O
Once
again,
it's
essentially
the
same,
and
I
think
the
stuff
that's
most
relevant
to
the
planning
commission
was
also
on
the
previous
drawing,
but
here's
here's
the
updated
one
showing
once
again
utility
lines.
But
I
don't
think
that's
something
that
you
guys
want
to
discuss
here
and
now.
But
if,
if
you
want
to,
we
can.
A
A
Okay,
it
doesn't
look
like
any
so
I'll.
Just
have
you
hang
tight
I'll
open
the
public
comment
period
and,
if
anything
comes
up
during
that
I'll
give
you
the
chance
to
respond
to
it
once
I
close
that,
so
all
right,
we'll
move
we'll
open
the
public
comment
period
for
this
item.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
select
the
hand
button
at
the
bottom.
M
M
This
is
the
kind
of
project
we
like
to
see
because
mr
floor
owns
five
homes
in
the
neighborhood
and
he's
fixed
them
all
up.
He
maintains
them
and
they're
all
for
rent
except
the
one
he
lives
in,
and
the
tenants
stay
forever
because
he's
a
good
landlord.
So
we
need
more
people
like
him
in
sugar
house.
L
Yeah,
hey,
you
know,
I
I
I
guess
my
only
questions
or
concerns
is
during
the
construction
process
of
the
garage
in
this
edu.
You
know
our
back
alley,
it's
a
dead
end
and
the
only
accessible
side,
at
least
for
me
and
well.
I
guess
everybody
on
the
north
side
of
the
alley.
Yeah.
That's
my
concern
is
the
accessibility
of
getting
through
there,
while
everything's
under
construction.
F
A
E
E
Every
time
like
we
were
here
during
the
construction
process
of
his
home,
that
he's
rebuilt
and
just
to
kind
of
give
a
preface,
we
had
a
drug
home
next
to
us
for
15
of
the
years
that
we've
been,
and
we've
been
here
in
sugar
house
in
this
home
for
17
years
and
to
actually
have
a
neighbor
that
cares
about
us
that
cares
about.
His
community
cares
about
his
neighbors
and
wants
to
help
those
to
have
affordable
housing.
E
I
think
the
mayor
yesterday
had
indicated
that
neighbors
are
losing
their
homes
and
being
forced
out
of
the
city
and
even
on
the
streets,
and
doc
has
provided
the
housing
available
for
these
people,
and
the
adu
is
a
great
step
in
being
creative
and
finding
a
way
to
be
able
to
create
more
housing
to
create
affordable
housing,
and
I
just
want
to.
I
could
not
say
enough
good
things
about
the
floor.
Family
and
how
inspirational
they've
helped
us
as
well
and
just
creating
a
neighborhood,
a
true
neighborhood.
A
A
Okay
and
once
you're
done
speaking,
if
you
would
click
that
hand
again
to
lower
it,
then
we
can
better
keep
track
of
future
public
comments.
Thank
you
both
for
commenting
mister.
I
will
close
the
public
comment
period.
Bring
this
back
to
the
applicant.
Would
you
like
to
take
a
moment
to
address
the
construction
and
alley
access
question.
O
Okay,
because
he
said
north
side
of
the
alley
and-
and
I
I
think
he
probably
meant
to
say
west
side-
but
I'm
not
sure
which
house
is
his
because
the
alley
runs
north
and
south
any
rate,
I'm
not
sure
which
house
is,
is
ties,
but
the
the
same
thing
would
apply
wherever
his
house
is
in
relation
to
this
alley
during
the
construction
yeah.
It's
it's
tough.
As
with
all
construction
projects.
O
I
work
in
vicinity
of
third
west
and
it's
been
pretty
hellacious
and
a
lot
of
people
have
dealt
with
construction
projects
and
road
closures,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
I
think
that
the
amount
of
heavy
construction
that
needs
to
be
done
on
such
a
small
project
will
be
minimal.
The
the
worst
of
it
is
going
to
be
the
excavation
of
the
adu
itself,
because
we
have
to
excavate
to
form
to
construct
the
the
footings
and
foundations
for
that
and
that's
going
to
require
a
large
excavator.
O
O
It
isn't
going
to
be
pretty
these
construction
projects
are
not
pretty
while
they're
happening,
but
that's
all
I
can
tell
you
is
yeah,
we'll
we'll
do
the
best
we're
not
going
to
keep
you
from
using
the
alley,
the
alleyways
of
public
thoroughfare
and
after
the
construction
of
the
project.
It
will
certainly
be
continue
to
be
that
and
we
plan
to
use
it
for
access
to
our
garage
and
the
adu
as
well.
E
E
A
Okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously
good
luck,
mr
floor
on
your
construction
and
happy
happy
times
for
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Construction
is
always
fun.
Isn't
it
all
right
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
the
chicago
street
townhomes
at
approximately
928
and
938
west,
south
temple,
18,
28,
30
and
36
north
chicago
street?
This
is
case
number
pln,
pcm
2021-00824.
A
J
So
this
is
a
planned
development,
design,
review
and
preliminary
subdivision
for
the
chicago
street
town
homes
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
west,
south
temple
and
chicago
streets.
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
planned
development,
design,
review
and
preliminary
subdivision
approvals.
You
can
see
the
location
of
the
property
on
the
right.
It
is
located
on
the
north
side
of
south
temple
and
then
to
the
east
of
madison
park
and
then
900
west
is
to
the
right
in
the
aerial
view,
to
give
you
an
over
a
brief
overview
of
the
project.
J
The
properties
are
located
in
the
tsa
unt
bomb
zoning
district,
the
north
temple
master
plan,
is
applicable
to
this
area.
The
subject
property
includes
six
existing
parcels
that
have
a
total
area
of
order
of
over
36
000
square
feet.
The
proposal
is
for
four
buildings,
with
a
total
of
30
townhouse
units.
J
The
proposal
is
for
seven
to
nine
units
in
each
building.
Each
townhouse
is
to
be
located
on
its
own
lot,
but
exterior
materials
are
primarily
brick,
veneer,
fiber,
cement,
siding
glass
and
stucco.
Each
unit
has
an
attached
garage
and
16
of
the
units
have
single
car
garages
and
14
units
have
tandem
two
car
garages.
J
There
are
a
number
of
applicable
standards,
including
the
standards
for
the
tsa
zoning
districts,
the
design
standards
in
21a37
and
then
also
the
standards
for
the
three
review
processes,
the
plan,
development
design
review
and
preliminary
subdivision.
The
detailed
analyses
of
these
are
in
the
attachments
to
the
staff
report.
J
The
applicant
has
requested
several
modifications
from
the
standards
through
the
plan,
development
and
design
review
processes.
The
plan
development
request
is
for
lots
without
frontage
14
of
the
30.
Lots
do
not
have
frontage
on
the
public
street,
as
required.
Additionally,
rather
than
complete
a
condo
plan
for
the
property.
The
proposal
is
for
additional
individual
town
home
loans,
which
may
allow
for
additional
financing
options,
including
fha
loans
and
staff,
recommends
approval
of
this
request.
J
This
is
a
rendering
facing
northeast
at
the
intersection
of
west,
south
temple
and
chicago
streets,
and
it
shows
two
of
the
design
review.
Requests
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
these,
but
one
is
for
the
stucco
architectural
element
that
is
shown
in
the
dark
brown
and
then
the
other
is
for
the
entries
on
chicago
street
that
do
not
recess
or
have
canopies
of
the
size
required
by
the
zoning
district
and
just
to
go
into
a
little
more
detail
on
the
design
review
request.
J
J
The
proposed
stucco
exceeds
what
is
permitted
for
stucco
or
ifis
in
the
zoning
district,
and
the
intent
behind
this
regulation
was
to
avoid
larger
areas
and
walls
that
are
covered
with
stucco
orifice
and
as
proposed.
The
stucco
is
an
architectural
element
rather
than
the
flat
blank
wall
that
can
be
created
with
stucco
or
ethos,
and
then
the
second
request
relates
to
the
building
entrances.
J
The
design
standards
require
that
entrances
have
canopies,
awnings
or
recesses
that
are
at
least
five
feet
and
as
proposed,
the
canopy
is
two
feet
and
the
recess
is
four
feet:
three
inches,
which
is
less
than
the
required
five
feet.
However,
it
stops
opinion
that
they
meet
the
intent
of
the
standard
by
breaking
up
the
facade
and
do
this
in
the
two
ways.
J
With
the
combination
of
the
recessed
entry
in
the
two
foot,
canopy
and
staff
supports
both
of
these
requests
and
as
identified
in
the
key
considerations,
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
city's
adopted
planning
documents.
The
proposed
townhomes
meet
the
characteristics
identified
for
development
in
this
area
and
increase
the
variety
of
housing
options.
They
are
also
located
close
to
the
sidewalk
and
have
parking
located
behind
an
interior
to
the
buildings
and,
additionally,
the
town
hall
mods
are
likely
to
provide
home
ownership
opportunities.
J
And
as
far
as
staff's
recommendation
staff
sent
notice
of
the
proposal
to
the
community
council
and
did
not
receive
a
response,
staff
did
receive
one
phone
call
from
a
member
of
the
public
which
had
questions
and
comments,
and
these
are
noted
in
the
staff
report.
There
have
also
been
three
email
comments
submitted
after
the
staff
report
was
posted
and
these
have
been
added
to
the
dropbox
and
for
the
recommendation
itself.
The
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
proposal
with
the
conditions
included
in
the
staff
report
and
identified
on
the
slide.
J
A
A
P
A
P
Some
images
of
the
contacts,
that's
one
of
the
buildings
that
is
in
the
area
under
construction.
These
are
the
more
commercial
buildings
next
to
us
and
across
the
railroads
to
the
south.
We
are
really
close
to
the
state
fair
park,
which
is
always
a
big
draw
for
the
neighborhood
and
then
mostly
currently
on
chicago
street,
is
small
single-family
houses.
P
This
is
kind
of
a
diagram
showing
what
will
look
like
in
the
middle
and
then
the
stuff
to
the
south
is
kind
of
much
more
industrial.
Looking
stuff
to
the
north,
smaller
houses,
we
are
a
three-story
townhouse,
that's
coming
up
to
30
feet.
Tall
and
50
feet
is
allowed
in
the
zones
we
are
building
under
the
allowed
zoning
height,
but
feel
it's
right
as
the
neighborhood
is
still
continuing
to
transition.
P
P
P
So,
as
you
guys
have
all
heard
many
times
like
townhomes
make
it's
relatively
expensive
to
get
to
the
full
tsa
points
using
townhomes.
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
a
couple
of
the
things
we've
tried
to
do
to
make
sure
we're
meeting
the
intent
of
those
tsa
points,
even
though
we
don't
quite
achieve
the
full
125
points.
So
the
first
one
is
the
corner
entry
piece
which
we've
tried
to
create
a
really
prominent
corner
entry.
But
when
going
over
things
with
sarah,
she
said
in
order
for
it
to
qualify.
P
The
next
one
is
eyes
on
the
street,
so
each
one
of
our
units
has
the
front
door
facing
chicago
street
and
balconies
looking
onto
chicago
street
recently,
as
you
were
probably
aware,
like
madison
park
has
been
closed
because
of
some
criminal
issues,
and
so
we
feel
like
getting
people
there
and
getting
going
from
four
homes
that
kind
of
have
ownership
and
are
looking
out
on
to
chicago
street.
To
now
there
would
be
14
front
doors
looking
onto
chicago
street
kind
of
helping
get
eyes
on.
P
P
The
consideration
three
was
the
master
plan
and
trying
to
the
master
plan,
calls
for
an
increased
density
in
this
neighborhood
we're
trying
to
provide
a
project
that
is
sort
of
gently
increasing
that
density,
going
from
what
was
single-family
house
to
kind
of
a
missing
middle
density,
as
it's
also
continuing
to
get
quite
a
few
larger
apartments
coming
in.
So
that's
my
presentation
and
I
would
welcome
any
questions.
A
A
P
So
one
of
the
things
that's
unique
about
this
project
versus
most
of
the
projects
we
work
on
is
the
property
line
is
actually
quite
a
ways
behind
the
sidewalk
versus
normally
they.
The
property
line
is
right
at
the
sidewalk,
and
so
we
can't
miss
this
little
grassy
area.
We
can't
necessarily
fence
off
these,
but
I
would
imagine,
as
the
project
gets
full
of
people
they'll
sort
of
each
one
will
be
taking
that
over
as
part
of
their
front
yard.
Space
and
it'll
become
a
much
more
engaging
facade
as
they're
like.
A
P
Okay,
so
yeah
we
would
put
lights
in
that
little
soffit
ceiling.
You
see
poking
out.
We
we
felt
like
kind
of
doing
both
the
recess
and
the
the
out
from
the
building
helped
identify
each
of
those
as
an
entrance
well
to
kind
of
help
make
that
engaging,
but
we
would
we
would
definitely
be
planning
to
put
lights
under
here
so
that
that,
especially
at
night
that
those
doorways
stay
very
bright.
K
Yeah
jared
thanks
so
much
for
this.
It's
a
it
looks
like
an
exciting
proposal
and
I
appreciate
all
the
trees,
particularly
in
light
of
our
considering
an
urban
forestry
proposal
in
the
you
know,
we're
all
very
concerned
about
our
air
quality.
Obviously,
and
that
would
help.
I
am
a
little
bit
confused
by
all
the
use
of
green
grass
and
I'm
wondering
consistent
with
what
amy
is
suggesting,
whether
you
could
put
in
some
really
interesting
desert
landscaping
and
not
just
stones,
but
some
really
interesting
plants
that
might
help
with
the
pedestrian
engagement
as
well.
P
A
F
E
L
That's
like
a
concern
for
me
as
there's
a
lot
of
patterns
and
documentation
of
the
patterns
of
these
like
luxury
apartments
that
cause
the
neighbors
and
the
people
that
already
live
around
these
places
up
for
redevelopment
to
get
pushed
out,
and
they
have
to
forcibly
move
basically,
especially
when
they're
low
income,
which
is
basically
the
case
here,
so
I'm
basically
opposing
these
town
homes
to
be
constructed
in
this
space
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
C
E
E
E
Studying
the
very
displacement
that
would
happen
here,
I
think
it's
like
cycling
the
neighborhood
here
and
I
want
to
say
too
in
response
to
the
presentation
that
jared
hall
gave,
I
think,
like
obviously
more
housing
is
needed
to
face
the
housing
crisis.
That's
going
on,
and
I
think
this
kind
of,
like
middle
missing
middle
housing
is
even
a
good
way
to
do
that.
E
It's
not
like
massive
ugly
apartment
blocks,
but
if
we're
making
this
housing
while
we're
also
displacing
current
residents
and
then
making
housing,
that's
so
unaffordable
that
the
people
who
already
live
in
these
neighborhoods
can't
stay
there.
It
doesn't
really
seem
like
the
way
forward
and
is
probably
only
gonna
make
the
affordability
crisis
even
worse.
So
that's
all.
L
L
You
know,
like
jared
hall,
has
a
history
of
demolishing
affordable
homes
for
the
community
and
like,
in
this
specific
instance,
he's
demolishing
affordable
homes
and
displacing
a
family
that
already
lives
there
for
more
luxury
apartments,
and
I
just
think
it's
like
it's
really
frustrating
you
know
because
I
feel
like
the
latino
community
in
rose
park
is
always
being
like
pushed
aside
just
for
like
more
white
hipsters,
you
know
to
change
the
entire
color
of
the
neighborhood
and
yeah.
I
just
I
just
the
craziest
part
to
me
is
still
like.
L
There's
a
farm
living
there
and
it's
even
more
crazy.
It's
a
family
of
color,
you
know
and
like
there's
a
history,
you
know
families
of
color
being
like
pushed
aside,
and
I
think
it's
if
the
planning
commission,
you
know
approves
this,
I
think
they're
just
like
continuing
that
history
and
really
shows
like
their
complicity
and
like
racism
and
stuff.
L
L
Like
I
don't
know,
I
think
you
can't
really
put
a
price
on
like
forcing
a
family
to
leave
their
home
in
search
of
a
new
one,
and
also
I
just
the
presentation
itself.
You
know,
I
think
it's
crazy
too,
like
everyone's
talking
about
making
the
development
look,
inviting
and
environmentally
friendly,
but
like
at
what
cost
you
know.
Q
We
have
retained
jared
hall
and
his
firm
as
our
architect
and
we've
been
very
happy
with
the
services
and,
quite
honestly,
all
the
interaction
that
we've
had
with
the
city
of
salt
lake
city.
I
do
want
to
address
a
couple
of
the
comments
with
respect
to
the
displacement
of
existing
residents
in
the
community,
so
mr
stenner.
A
I'm
going
to
interject
and
stop
you
here
because
I'd
like
you
to
probably
join
jared
after
the
public
comment
period,
so
you
can
address
the
items
that
come
up
instead
of
just
a
two-minute
comment.
So,
let's,
let's
stop
you
and
then
michaela.
If
you
can
move
him
to
the
panelist
view
after
the
public
comments,
close
I'll
have
mr
hall
and
mr
stetner
respond
to
anything
that
way.
If
some
other
things
come
up
after
he
would
have
made
his
comment,
he
can
still
respond.
A
A
F
E
First
of
all,
hearing
jared
hall
talk
about
this
project
and
anybody
who
is
in
support
of
it
divulging
on
the
the
the
space
and
the
proximity
to
community
sites
like
the
like
fair
park,
is
one
of
the
tactics
and
in
like
how
to
promote
redevelopment
and
especially
showing
these
commercial
spaces
that
are
that
look
like
they're,
not
in
use
when
in
actuality
there's
a
colorful
community
happening
around
that
area.
There
are
family
pop
shops,
there
are
restaurants,
there's
a
park,
that's
not
being
close
to
the
community.
For
now
there
are
supermarkets.
E
There
are
nail
salons.
There
is
a
community
of
people
here
that
are
wanting
to
stay
here,
because
this
is
their
home
as
well
as
the
family
and
the
families
that
have
been
displaced.
They
are
wanting
to
stay
here
and
from
what
I
have
seen
from
the
presentation
and
from
the
plans.
I
have
not
seen
any
prices
or
any
indica
in
the
in
any
indication
of
making
this
affordable.
E
A
F
L
We've
seen
that
past
developments,
especially
ones
from
jared
hall,
have
been
displacing
already
low-income
families,
especially
families
of
color.
Further
studies
have
first,
studies
have
already
are
already
coming
out,
showing
that
latinos
are
the
one
in
the
rns
in
the
city
are
the
ones
who
are
being
most
affected
by
the
current
actions
of
gentrification
that
are
being
pushed
out
due
to
rising
rate
prices.
L
I
A
A
A
A
I
think
you
have
a
very
sympathetic
panel
of
commissioners
on
this,
but
legally
the
role
of
the
planning
commission
is
not
one
where
we've
we
can
evaluate
a
project
against
any
issue
that
may
come
up.
There
are
legal
standards
that
we
are
required
to
evaluate
projects
against,
and
affordability
is
not
one
of
those,
it's
not
the
purview
of
the
planning
commission.
A
So
I
don't
want
you
to
feel
that
no
one
is
listening
to
you
or
that
no
one
cares,
but
we
have
a
fairly
focused
legal
box
of
what
we
operate
in
and
so
the
idea
that
we
would
wait
for
a
study
or
that
we
could
wait
for
a
study
to
be
complete
is
also
not
part
of
our
purview.
The
city
council
is
the
is
definitely
the
realm
that
makes
decisions
and
and
directs
code
and
ordinances
for
the
city,
and
then
the
staff
and
the
planning
commission
have
to
follow
those.
A
But
I
do
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
listening
and
we
do
hear
you,
and
we
are
also
sharing
many
of
those
same
sentiments
that
you
expressed
tonight
with
that.
I
will
give
mr
hall
and
mr
stetner
the
opportunity
to
address
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
have
come
up
in
at
this
time
and
then
we'll
take
it
to
the
commission
for
a
discussion.
Q
Yeah
I
just
unmuted
jared.
I
think
what
I
I
limit.
My
comments
to
this
is
that
this
is
our
first
project
in
salt
lake
city
and
has
been
nothing
but
a
from
a
developer
standpoint,
extremely
positive
in
the
feedback
that
we
get
from
all
of
the
various
departments
and
as
part
of
an
education
with
the
process
with
jared.
It's
it's
a
breath
of
fresh
air
in
terms
of
bringing
a
project
forward.
Having
this
kind
of
input
throughout
the
process
has
really
been
very
much
appreciated.
P
E
Madam
chair,
this
is
this:
is
amy
burroughs.
If
I
can
say
something
I
feel
yeah.
I
was
listening
to
the
public
comments
and
I
believe
you
and
I
think
that
what
you're
saying
is
true,
but
there's
one
of
the
things
that's
interesting
when
you
look
at
the
staff
report,
there's
a
outcome
that
tells
us
if
we
vote
for
this
proposal,
what
will
happen
and
if
we
vote
against
this
proposal,
what
will
happen
and
one
of
the
things
on
in
this
specific
case?
E
Even
if
we
vote
every
single
one
of
us
voted
no
on
it,
they
could
still
build
this
exact
same
building,
we're
talking
about
they
just
couldn't
it
wouldn't
be
subdivided
as
town
homes.
So
the
financing
that's
available
to
people
that
are
moving
in
would
be
different,
that's
kind
of
like
that's
my
understanding
of
what
the
only
difference
would
be.
If
we
say
no,
so
there's
there's
we
we
don't
have
a
way
to
say,
don't
build
this
building
or
the
people
who
are
already
living.
There
are
more
important
than
this
building
being
built.
E
That's
not
even
that's
not
even
a
thing
that
we
have
a
choice
to
say
so,
I'm
I'm
I'm
moved
by
public
comments
but
then
constrained
to
by
what
our
choices
are
so
and
I-
and
I
think
I
unders
I
read
up
on
the
gentrification
study-
that's
happening
that
was
announced
by
the
mayor
and
I
don't
have.
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
any
insight
information.
I
don't
know
what's
the
latest
on
that,
but
maybe
the
staff
can
confirm
if
that
has
not
that
effort
to
do.
E
A
J
F
A
K
K
I
guess
in
terms
of
the
causality
that
the
public
seems
to
be
concerned
about
about
new
development
coming
in,
at
the
same
time
as
rising
rents,
there
is
not
a
gentrification
study,
specific
to
salt
lake
city,
but
there's
extensive
studies
of
housing,
affordability
and
displacement
of
neighborhoods
from
other
places,
and
what
we
know
is
the
more
you
restrict
development,
the
worse
that
is
and
the
longer
we
wait
to
build
new
housing
the
way
worse.
That
is,
unfortunately,
stopping
all
new
development.
K
K
So
I
I
understand
very
you
know
it's
frustrating
when
your
neighborhood
changes
at
a
rapid
rate,
but
the
development
is
not
the
causal.
The
development
is
the
the
effect
of
that
developers
go
in
when
lend
values
have
been
rising
and
it
becomes
profitable
to
redevelop,
and
I
just
in
terms
of
mitigation,
I'm
very
I
would
not
want
to
see
council
propose
anything
to
stop
development.
K
A
O
O
For
the
for
the
chicago
street
town
homes,
subject
to
the
following
conditions,
one
applicant
shall
submit
a
final
plat
for
review
within
18
months.
Two
applicants
shall
comply
with
all
required
department,
comments
and
conditions.
Three
applicants
shall
submit
a
cost
estimate
and
associated
documentation,
assuring
shared
infrastructure,
maintenance
and
compliance
with
21a.55.110.
A
F
A
E
E
I
A
G
G
G
G
The
applicant
is
requesting
approval
for
a
new
town
home
development
at
this
location.
This
development
will
include
14
single-family
attached
units
and
it
will
be
within
two
different
buildings.
So
seven
and
seven,
the
two
buildings
are
proposed
at
approximately
45
feet
in
height
and
would
be
three
stories.
G
The
applicant
is
asking
for
two
different
types
of
application
approval,
so
the
first
one
would
be
the
preliminary
subdivision
application
for
the
approval
to
create
14
new
lots
on
that
note,
because
he's
creating
14
new
la
excuse
with
new
lots.
12
of
those
will
not
have
street
frontage.
Therefore,
we
get
into
the
plan
development
development
approval
requirement,
so
he
will
need
to
have
the
plan
development
approval
for
the
12
single
family
units
that
will
not
have
public
street
frontage
reduction
of
the
rear
yard
setback.
Requirements
from
15.
G
G
G
The
drive
I
just
want
to
key
that
in
because
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
issues
of
the
conditional
condition
of
approval
that
we're
recommending
the
lighting
is
a
little
dim
throughout
that
driveway
and
even
at
the
you
know,
peak
of
of
noon
that
that
drive
area
is
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
light
throughout
the
day.
So
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
is
going
to
be
that
we're
requesting
is
more
lighting.
G
This
is
showing
the
the
the
stories
and
the
height
of
the
of
the
buildings.
They
will
have
the
garage
unit
on
the
bottom
and
they
are.
They
can
accommodate
two
parking
spaces
they're
a
little
shy
on
the
the
footage,
but
they
can.
The
requirement
for
the
mbu
zone
is
one
parking
space
per
unit,
so
he
meets
that,
but
he's
also
giving
the
ability
to
probably
get
two
cars
in
each
garage.
G
This
is
a
new
multi-family
development
that
just
went
into
the
east.
It
is
very
new.
I
was
out
there
probably
three
weeks
ago
and
I
don't
think
people
have
moved
in
yet,
although
this
picture
looks
like
maybe,
but
this
the
mary
came
in
without
having
to
go
through
the
planning
commission,
so
they
met
all
the
requirements.
G
It
is
a
multi-family
project,
so
it
does
have
different
setback
requirements,
but
they
were
able
to
meet
it
and
just
go
into
permitted
to
build
by
right,
so
they
didn't
have
the
issues
of
having
to
come
to
this
board
and
that
sorry,
that
is
on
the
east
property
line.
If
you
can
see
this
over
here
to
the
to
the
right
is
one
of
the
houses
that
will
be
taken
down
for
the
current
for
the
subject
property.
G
P
Okay,
so
I'll
go
over
this
fairly
quickly,
again
again,
here's
our
kind
of
larger
context,
image.
This
is
a
super
unique
neighborhood.
You
can
see
our
project
site
and
then
in
the
most
recent
google
earth
image,
you
can
see
the
three-story
townhomes
that
have
just
finished
next
to
us.
Also
occupying
a
big
chunk
of
the
block
is
a
two-story
plus
roof
deck
town
homes.
P
There's
a
five-story
building
just
to
the
south
of
us
little
ways
across
eighths
north
to
the
north.
There's
some
five-story
office
and
three-story
office
just
across
third
west
to
the
east
is
warm
springs
park
and
then
just
across
fourth
west
to
the
west
is
the
refinery.
So
we
kind
of
have
all
kinds
of
different
uses
happening
in
this
part
of
the
neighborhood
city.
P
P
P
Our
site
plan,
so
on
this
project
again
we
have
14
townhomes
on
just
under
a
half
acre,
which
gives
us
31
units
per
acre.
We
do
have
the
I
like
to
call
one
plus
car
garage.
Salt
lake
city
requires
a
20
foot
wide
garage
to
be
called
the
one
to
be
called
two
car
we're
like
19
feet,
so
you
can
fit
two
cars,
but
it's
not
a
technical
two
car.
P
We
have
a
single
point
of
vehicle
access
which
we
like,
because
that's
kind
of
limiting
the
the
points
at
which
pedestrians
and
vehicles
are
coming
together,
thus
kind
of
creating
stuff
a
little
more
safely,
our
trash
enclosures
at
the
south
end
of
the
site
screens
there,
and
then
we
have
these
little
front,
porch
balconies
that
we'll
look
at
a
little
more
in
a
future
side.
So
again,
just
like
the
project
we
just
looked
at
our
consideration.
One
is
lots
without
frontage
and
in
this
zone
condos
and
apartments
are
just
allowed.
P
So
if
these
were
subdivided
as
condominiums
or
if
they
were
apartments,
15
feet
would
be
an
allowed
rear
set
pack,
but
because
they
are
town
homes,
it
increases
the
required
rear
yard
and
we
are
asking
to
be
allowed
to
use
the
15
feet
that
would
be
allowed.
If
this
was
a
condominium
or
apartment
project
on
our
front
yard,
you
can
see
we've
kind
of
got
a
little
bit
of
paved
front
yard
patio
area
and
then
each
one
of
these
green
things
would
be
a
little
garden
area.
P
The
the
base
zoning
is
a
10
foot
setback.
We
are
asking
for
a
reduction
to
six
and
a
half
feet,
but
only
our
balconies
and
our
kind
of
roof
eve
overhangs,
are
into
that.
The
mass
of
our
building
is
still
behind
the
10
foot
setback.
So
this
kind
of
shows
that
same
thing.
In
a
section
you
can
see
that
line
for
the
10
foot
setback
and
then
our
balcony
sticking
out
from
the
building
a
couple
of
feet
and
reducing
that
front
yard
setback,
but
also
in
this
particular
neighborhood.
P
The
park
strips
are
really
wide,
and
so,
even
though
we're
not
providing
a
giant
front
yard
setback,
the
distance
from
the
street
to
the
building
is
still
really
large
on
this
image.
So
the
the
building
on
the
left
is
a
building
that
we'd
be
allowed
per
the
base
zoning
and
then
the
building
on
the
right
is
what
we
are
proposing
with
those
extra
balconies
and
places
for
kind
of
street
engagement
and
doing
that
in
exchange
for
the
slightly
reduced
front
yard
setback,
here's
a
rendering
of
kind
of
what
that
front
garden.
P
Patio
space
looks
like
and
how
many
different
opportunities
there
are
for
there
to
be
people
in
the
building
kind
of
engaging
with
people
on
the
sidewalk,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
way
that
would
look
at
night
with
from
above
kind
of
giving
another
view
of
what
that
front.
Balcony
looks
like
now
we're
connecting
to
the
street.
P
We
did
meet
with
capitol
hill
community
council
and
one
of
their
concerns
was
short-term
rentals
and
I
spoke
it
over
with
the
owners
and
their
thought
is
in
this
particular
zone.
Short-Term
rentals
with
the
proper
permits
are
allowed
in
the
city,
because
it's
not
they're
not
allowed
in
any
single
family
zones,
but
in
this
zone
they
are
allowed.
A
Okay
with
that,
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
comment
period
and
I
see
one
hand
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
this
item.
Please
click
that
hand
in
the
lower
right
hand
portion
of
your
screen
but
michaela.
If
you
want
to
start
this
off.
I
think
mr
smear,
mr
shira,
is
the
community
council
rep,
so
we'll
give
him
five
minutes.
A
Q
Okay,
great
for
the
record,
my
name
is
david
shearer.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
capitol
hill
neighborhood
council.
As
mr
hall
mentioned,
this
project
was
presented
to
our
council
at
our
november
meeting
and
he
received
some
feedback
there.
Subsequently,
it
was
reviewed
by
our
infrastructure
and
planning
committee,
which
is
empowered
by
the
board
to
review
development
proposals
in
our
area
and
submit
remarks
to
the
planning
commission
on
behalf
of
the
board,
and
you
have
such
a
letter
in
your
packet
there.
Q
Q
Q
Also
the
frame
that
I'm
referring
to
gathers
the
entire
each
and
each
of
the
two
buildings
into
a
single
mass
which,
as
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
picture
there
is
considerably
taller
than
any
than
either
of
these
surroundings
or
any
of
the
other
buildings
on
this
street.
Mr
hall
refers
to
buildings
that
are
north
of
here.
I
don't
see
how
that
is
relevant
to
the
streetscape
of
8th
north.
Q
I
would
also
question
whether
this
project
even
meets
the
criteria
set
forth
in
the
code
for
a
planned
development.
As
you
know,
there
are
six
of
them
and
the
first
five
I
think
we
can
dismiss
out
of
hand.
The
only
one
that
might
perhaps
be
met
by
this
project
is
fulfilling
the
requirements
of
the
capitol
hill
master
plan,
which
was
adopted
in
2001..
Q
Q
This
is
not
mixed
use,
obviously,
and
it
does
not
therefore
achieve
the
goal
that
the
master
plan,
as
opposed
to
the
zoning,
sets
for
this
project,
and,
as
mr
hall
also
mentioned,
there
is
great
concern
about
the
creation
of
short-term
rental
units
in
this
building.
It's
an
odd
argument
to
make
that
we
should
allow
it
here
when
we
don't
want
it
somewhere
else
and
that
it
not
having
it
here
will
encourage
more
people
to
violate
the
law
than
otherwise.
A
A
A
Get
back
to
you,
yeah
you're
gonna
have
a
second
believe
me,
I'm
going
to
bring
you
back
to
the
commission
for
any
questions
or
comments,
but
first
I'm
going
to
allow
mr
hall
to
respond
to
anything
that
came
up
in
that
comment,
and
then
I
have
some
stuff
for
you,
diana.
That
may
be
what
you
want
to
say
as
well.
Mr
hall,
did
you
want
to
say
anything.
P
All
residential
zones
allow
a
three
foot
extension
into
the
setback
for
any
roof
eve,
and
as
such,
I
would
assume
the
intent
of
the
code
is
for
the
setbacks
to
be
where
the
mass
of
the
building
is
more
so
than
the
eve,
which
is
what
we're
kind
of
providing
around.
Although
it
is
maybe
a
little
bit
of
enhanced
steve
and
our
like,
we
feel
kind
of
that
reduction
and
setback
for
the
trade-off
of
having
the
balconies
on
that
front.
Facade
and
the
additional
like
visual
interest
of
the
building
is
a
good
trade-off.
P
As
far
as
the
short-term
rental
comments
like,
I
think,
it's
not
dissimilar
from
the
discussion
we
had
on
the
last
one
about
housing
like
there
is
a
demand
in
salt
lake
city
for
short-term
rentals
and
to
make
it
not
legal
anywhere,
will
just
force
it
to
go
slightly
underground
and
into
places
that
you
don't.
The
the
city
has
not
kind
of
created
ordinances
to
allow
it.
There.
A
G
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
make
kind
of
a
follow-up
to
what
commissioner
burroughs
said
on
the
last
application
with
jared
hall.
It's
the
same
situation
if
he
were
to
come
back
and
redesign
the
project
to
meet
the
setback,
requirements
and
construct
the
construct
the
building
under
code,
he
wouldn't
need
the
plan
development.
He
would
need
the
preliminary
plat
approval,
which
can
be
administratively
approved,
but
he
could
do
this.
He
could
do
this
design
and
he
could
by
meeting
the
setbacks.
So
again
with
commissioner
burroughs
comment
to
the
last
one.
G
A
G
G
A
G
A
G
No,
they
cannot
so
in
the
residential
zones.
It
is
not
allowed
to
have
the
motel
there's
no
hotel,
motel
use
allowed.
So
in
this
one
it's
a
little
different
because
we're
we're
in
a
special
district.
It's
it's
mu,
so
that
that's
what
distinguishes
it
in
the
residential
zones.
The
hotel
motel
isn't
allowed
at
all.
It's
not
permitted.
E
F
F
A
A
A
Was
this
idea
that
the
that
the
proposal
was
somehow
improving
what
you
could
do
with
the
code
and
I
think
the
the
photo
of
the
most
recent
multi-use
or
family
dwelling
is
so
his
proof
of
that
that
that
is
really
unattractive
in
the
street
front,
and
it
always
saddens
me
when
the
code
allows
for
some
of
those
type
of
things
to
go
through.
So
I
do
think
your
project
is,
is
an
enhancement
to
what
you
could
do
if
you
weren't
doing
a
plan
development.
A
A
A
I
A
E
A
N
E
Did
that
steph,
maybe
kind
of
put
something
down
that
we
can
follow
a
little
better,
because
in
the
future
I
can
kind
of
see
how
this
might
run
into
problems
if
a
resident
lives
in
an
area
that
allows
for
short-term
rentals
and
that
might
cause
some
issues
in
the
future.
Anyway,
I
will
vote
yes
in
this.
In
this
case,.
E
A
E
A
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
B
All
right,
as
madam
chair
mentioned,
this
is
a
combined
request
for
a
general
plan
map
amendment
and
a
zoning
map
amendment
for
a
property
that
is
just
to
the
south
of
I-80
and
is
at
fifth
east.
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
fairly
large
parcel.
It
is
almost
an
acre
in
size
and
it
has
frontage
along
both
5th
east
and
warnock
avenue.
B
There
is
an
existing
abandoned
house
that
was
built
in
1900
that
is
currently
occupying
the
site,
but
it
is
severely
dilapidated
and
has
been
boarded
up
so
the
property
owner
and
the
developer
intend
to
remove
that
and
construct
some
single-family
attached
units.
As
you
see
in
their
concept
plan
here
here
are
their
requests.
B
They
are
requesting
a
general
plan
map
amendment
from
low
density
residential,
which
is
five
to
ten
dwelling
units
per
acre
to
medium
density,
residential
which
is
8
to
20
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
they're.
Making
this
request
in
order
to
facilitate
their
zoning
map,
amendment
from
r1,
7000,
residential
to
rmf,
35.
B
Additionally,
there
are
a
few
land
uses
which
are
currently
listed
as
conditional
uses,
which
would
become
permitted
uses
if
these
map
amendments
are
approved.
These
include
a
community
garden,
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
a
limited
capacity,
assisted
living
facility
and
a
small
scale
congregate
care
facility.
B
B
So,
with
the
public
process
for
these
items,
we
did
send
out
an
early
notification
letter
to
all
of
the
neighbors
and
the
property
owners
within
300
feet
of
this
request
and
we
did
meet
with
the
sugar
house
community
council
again.
That
was
actually,
I
believe,
the
second
time
that
this
project
had
been
reviewed
by
the
community
council
and
we
got
some
good
feedback
from
them
and
presented
the
map.
Amendment
requests.
B
B
A
So
did
do
any
commissioners
have
any
questions?
Did
I
even
say
that
out
loud,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
to
the
presenters
we
have
jake
military,
which
I
may
have
mispronounced
and
jordan
atkin,
who
are
being
presenters?
Do
we
have
I
see
jake's
on
the
projector
list?
Is
there's
jordan,
okay,
so
you're
both
in
the
presenters
list?
Do
you
need
presenter
privileges.
H
L
L
Oh
okay,
all
right,
we'll
figure
this
out
later
and
just
roll
with
it
for
now.
Sorry
that
you
can't
see
the
presentation,
so
I
I
feel
like
caitlyn
covered.
You
know
the
major
points
pretty
well
we're
here
tonight,
actually
representing
the
property
owner
which
is
currently
sjmr
trust
the
property
is
a
narrow
and
long
property.
L
However,
you
know,
given
the
proximity
to
the
freeway,
as
well
as
the
the
depth
of
the
lot,
we
we
thought
that
we
would
try
to
do
some
single
family
attached
housing
here,
and
that
is
why
we
are
requesting
the
zoning
map
amendments
and
the
future
land
use
map.
Amendment
broadly,
you
know
we
provided
a
narrative.
A
Okay,
so
I
know
we've
got
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
comment
period
and
I
believe
we
have
judy
short
who's
indicated.
She
wishes
to
speak
on
this
and
then,
if
anybody
else
in
attendance
wishes
to
other
comments,
please
raise
your
hand.
It's
the
lower
hand
in
the
lower
right
hand,
portion
of
your
screen
that
lets
us
know.
You
wish
to
speak,
but
michaela.
If
you
want
to
unmute
judy.
M
I
read
through
the
project
and
sent
jake-
probably
several
emails
back
and
forth
about
our
concern
because
it
backs
right
up
to
the
freeway
and
he
had
you
know,
sort
of
the
front
of
the
house
facing
the
freeway,
and
so
he
brought
back
some
other
ideas
facing
it.
The
other
direction
and
we
had
some
back
and
forth
about
materials.
M
Apparently
there's
insulation
and
siding
you
can
put
on
to
keep
out
the
co2
particles
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
as
I
was
reading
through
this
tonight,
I
thought
you
know-
that's
all
well
and
good,
but
this
is
just
about
the
rezone
so
we're
in
favor
of
the
rezone.
We
think
it's
a
good
place
where
we
could
add
some
town
homes
and
get
some
extra
units
in
sugar
house,
but
we
also
have
some
serious
concerns
about
mitigating
the
co2
that
those
people
could
be
breathing.
M
A
F
E
E
A
Okay
and
this
again,
I'm
sorry
we're
having
technical
issues
with
figuring
out
how
to
unmute
you
or
you're
being
able
to
unmute
yourself,
but
we
do
have
your
comments
written
into
the
record,
so,
let's
or
right
into
the
record,
let's
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
comment
period
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commissioners.
I
do
want
to
also
make
a
clarification
point
for
miss
mcgowan,
that
this
is
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
on
both
these
items,
and
so
it
is
not
your
last
opportunity
to
participate
on
the
city.
B
E
L
H
L
I
mean
the
trees,
we
don't
have
a
final
site
plan,
yet
we're
going
to
try
and
retain
as
many
of
the
large
trees
as
possible.
Obviously
that
benefits
us
on
two
fronts:
it
makes
the
property
more
appealing
and
marketable,
and
it
means
that
we
have
less
trees
to
replace
in
regards
to
the
property.
I
really
do
wish.
L
I
could
share
the
map
that
I
have,
because,
if
you,
if
you
walk
around
and
on
the
property
and
kind
of
see
where
it's
been
staked,
a
lot
of
the
larger
and
older
growth
trees
are
either
on
the
lds
property
to
the
south
or
a
significant
portion
of
them
even
are
on
the
udot
property
to
the
north.
So
we're
going
to
try
and
preserve
the
trees
on
on
our
property
to
the
extent
possible
and
the
the
a
lot
of
the
larger
trees
are
on
surrounding
properties.
E
E
L
A
E
I'm
willing
to
make
a
motion
hey
go
ahead,
based
on
the
information
and
the
staff
report.
The
information
presented
in
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
that
the
planning
commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
the
requested
general
plan
map
amendment
case
number
pln
pcm
2021.01.
K
A
I
A
E
A
L
A
A
A
A
E
I
A
F
A
E
A
H
A
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
So
in
reviewing
this,
we
look
at
first
the
base
zoning
standards
for
the
csh
bd1
zone
and
that
zone
purpose
statement
calls
for
promotion
of
walkable
communities
with
trans-oriented
components
that
can
support
a
24-hour
population,
and
this
definitely
does
that
by
having
the
unit
numbers
the
higher
density
and
also
having
some
of
the
other
amenities
and
components
to
it
and
is
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
In
that
sense,.
C
C
C
Looking
at
design
review
standards,
the
building
is
required
to
comply
with
each
of
the
design
review
standards
a
through
l.
Those
are
outlined
in
your
staff
report
of
how
it
complies
with
each
of
those.
However,
one
of
the
primary
ones
is
standard
g,
which
relates
to
additional
building
height,
and
that
includes
various
standards
that
are
met
through
the
building
articulation
and
the
step
backs
how
it
creates
a
more
human
scaled
experience.
C
Sidewalk
and
you'll
see
that
a
little
bit
more
in
the
renderings
from
the
stations
and
the
building
has
been
designed
with
a
distinct
base
middle.
On
top
and
again,
that's
that
step
back
kind
of
relates
a
little
bit
more
to
neighboring
buildings,
or
at
least
the
potential
height
of
neighboring
buildings.
C
Level
4
courtyard
creates
some
some
voids
and
some
breaks
in
the
building
as
well.
So
looking
at
those
a
little
bit
more
you'll
see
here.
Bottom
three
floors
are
really
designed
to
have
a
very
traditional
scale:
they're
very
pedestrianized.
So
a
lot
of
glass,
high
quality
mix
of
building
materials,
lots
of
entrances.
C
Horizontal
banding,
you
know,
breaks
in
the
facade
and
that,
but
that
really
helps
set
the
tone
for
the
more
traditional
development
pattern
in
the
area
and
then,
of
course,
the
building
steps
back
as
required,
and
that's
where
the
bulk,
the
size
height
comes
in.
Yet
it
still
has
considerable
amount
of
balconies
breaks
up
the
materials.
C
Surfaces
to
reduce
the
overall
visual
height
of
the
building,
so
then
you
can
see.
This
is
on
the
north
side.
Cutting
the
property
line.
They've
used
brick
to
create
a
pattern
and
created
space
for
a
mural
to
again
bring
in
some
more
of
those
pedestrian
elements
and
make
it
a
little
pedestrian
friendly.
C
Ashton
and
again
has
considerable
amount
of
glass
you'll
notice.
There
is
an
elevation
change
here
along
this,
and
so
these
lower
units,
actually,
once
you
get
onto
property
line,
have
stairwells
that
go
down
for
those
handful
units
there.
They
would
drop
down
to
a
little
patio
courtyard
areas
for
those
units,
but
again
that
maintains
that
pedestrian
feel
at
the
single
entrance
for
the
parking
garage
corner
of
the
building.
There.
C
C
C
That
will
need
to
come
at
a
later
time
so
with
that
staff
is
recommending
finding
that
it
generally
meets
applicable
design,
review
standards
and
is
recommending.
The
planning
commission
approve
the
request,
with
the
one
condition:
the
final
approval
for
signage
for
the
development
be
delegated
to
staff,
to
review
of
adopted
standards
and
ordinances.
E
C
So
the
mixed
use
component
comes
in
the
form
of
the
maker
space.
There's
a
coffee
shop
proposed
a
few
other,
some
of
them.
I
guess
you
could
consider
amenities,
but
there's
a
theater.
There's
fitness
center
there's
all
those
other
components,
but
there
is
a
proposal
for
a
coffee
shop
in
there
and
maker
space.
C
C
K
Eric
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
in
the
staff
report
it
on
page
10.
It
says
the
building
will
include
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedroom
dwelling
units
intended
to
appeal
to
the
young
professional
residents,
but
you
mentioned
there'd
be
studio,
one
two
and
three
bedrooms,
and
I
guess
the
full
munit
mix
appears
on
page
11
of
the
staff
report.
If
you
could
just
clarify
what
the
unit
mix
is
going
to
be.
C
C
C
C
A
H
A
A
N
A
I
A
A
N
I
Perfect
good
evening
planning
commission
senior
staff
eric.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
I
think
we've
got
judy
short
on
board
with
us
tonight,
she's
going
to
be
presenting
on
behalf
of
the
community
council
and
the
land
use
committee.
My
name
is
mark
isaac,
michael
augustine's,
principal
and
founder
of
alteterra
real
estate
and
the
owners
of
the
project
kind
of
back
up
just
for
a
little
bit
when
we
came
to
see
you
in
november
with
the
south
building
that
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
your
screen
right
now.
I
It
created
a
little
bit
of
confusion
with
unit
mix
unit
makeup
unit
breakup.
The
application
that
we
did
originally
to
the
city
was.
These
are
sister
buildings
that
communicate
with
one
another
like
similar
same
development,
same
project
same
phasing
same
everything,
because
they
were
two
different
legal
parcels
planning
staff
suggested
that
we
bifurcate
the
submittal
into
two
when
all
of
our
imagery
renderings
unit
counts
and
the
like
were
originally
created
as
a
cohesive
project.
I
The
part
that
we're
most
enthusiastic
about
in
presenting
to
you
all
tonight
is
this
is
a
really
unique
opportunity
for
the
developer
to
influence
both
sides
of
the
street.
We
we
get
to
create
the
streetscape
on
the
north
side
of
ashton
and
the
gateway
or
the
entrance
or
the
visible
nature
of
the
east
side
into
fairmont
park.
I
As
a
lot
of
you
know,
especially
those
of
us
who
live
in
sugar
house
fairmont
park
to
have
eyeballs
lighting
engagement
and
improvements
around,
it
is
going
to
dramatically
benefit
the
adjacency
residents,
the
area
and
the
community
as
a
whole
fairmont
park.
The
city
is,
and
the
community
has
invested
a
tremendous
amount
into,
and
we've
not
had
the
easiest
time
making
it
safe
and
clean
for
a
myriad
of
reasons
and
subsequently
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
with
bike
lanes.
I
Widening
the
pedestrian
corridor
and
the
two
sides
of
the
street
was
to
better
engage
pedestrian
connectivity
off
of
highland
drive
to
the
east
that
would
move
west
into
the
park.
A
couple
things
that
we're
demonstrating
on
this
rendering
in
front
of
you
right
now.
We
are
still
working
with
transportation
and
the
city's
engineering
departments
on
and
the
reason
is
simply
this-
we're
trying
to
build
more
sidewalk,
more
plaza
and
more
bike
lanes.
I
I
I
I
I
We've
been
very
thoughtful
in
how
we
wanted
to
engage
that
hard
corner
and
that
crosswalk
circumstance
to
try
and
influence
visibility
and
and
and
a
safer
environment
around
the
dog
park
and
some
of
that
fairmont
park
corner
that
we've
actually
had
some
difficulty
in
in
protecting
and
defending
from
some
of
some
other
activities.
So
anyway,
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
michael.
I
I
Andras
questions
with
regards
to
unit
makeups
and
stuff
studios
and
smaller
units
are
in
the
south
building
on
the
south
side,
closer
to
the
freeway
and
a
lot
of
the
larger
market
rate
a
little
bit
more
expensive
units,
quite
frankly,
and
larger
amenitized
units
are
going
to
be
in
the
north
building
on
the
north
flank.
With
that
being
said,
michael,
take
it
away.
Yeah
thank.
N
You
and
good
evening,
I'm
not
going
to
restate
and
just
run
through
renderings
that
mark
and
eric
have
done
such
a
good
job
in
their
presentations.
We
only
really
have
a
fee
to
show,
and
I
will
answer
the
questions
that
were
addressed
as
part
of
this
presentation
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
trying
to
find
my
mouse
there.
It
is
so
anyway,
we
start
off
with
our
first
rendering,
as
you've
seen
on
some
other
presentations,
we're
at
the
corner
of
ashton
and
1100.
N
You
know
this
is
the
main
entrance
to
the
north
building
and
I
can
address
a
couple
things
here,
so
we
don't
have
any
as
mark
stated,
sort
of
commercial
space
retail
per
se.
Our
approach
to
this
is
because
we've
never
been
commercial
or
retail
developers,
but
we
always
build
very
thoughtful
sort
of
top
of
market
amenities
is
that
we
have
created
three
or
four
spaces
here.
So
we've
got
the
maker
space
I'll
call
more
of
like
a
co-working
space,
so
very
similar
to
a
group.
N
You
know
industry,
where
you
can
rent
out
small
offices
have
larger
collaboration.
Space
you've
got
all
the
technology
it'll
be
available
to
our
residents.
It'll
be
available
to
anybody
who
wants
to
come
in
and
rent
space
or,
frankly,
you
know,
hang
out
and
sit
at
the
office
on
the
ground
floor
as
well.
I'm
sorry,
I
know
my
mouse
is
probably
smaller
on
the
screen,
but
to
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
main
entrance
on
the
corner.
We've
developed
a
patio
and
the
patio
leads
into
a
large
coffee,
slash
bistro
area.
N
The
amenity
as
if
we
were
the
end
user,
but
try
to
work
with
people
in
the
community
where
we've
been
talking
with
the
sugar
house
chamber
of
commerce
and
we'd
like
to
have
people
who
have
been
priced
out
of
sugar
house
either
through
just
market
conditions
or
a
lot
of
redevelopment
just
come
in
and
take
our
space
for
low
or
no
cost
and
operate
an
actual
coffee
shop
so
that
it
really
activates
the
space.
For
our
residents,
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
to
do
in
our
large
coffee
shop.
It's
indoor
outdoor.
N
We
also
have
a
full
bike,
storage
and
maintenance
area
in
this
building
as
well,
so
we're
working
with
some
of
the
local
bike
shop
areas
and
again.
I
know
this
project
being
built
as
far
out
but
we'd
like
someone
to
come
in
and
actually
be
thoughtful
and
let
them
use
the
space
for
free
as
a
satellite
office
or
a
satellite
space
to
something
they
may
have
downtown
or
in
east,
central
or
various
locations
of
the
city.
It
just
gives
them
more
exposure.
N
We
have
a
similar
concept
with
our
spa
and
pet
lounge,
where
there's
a
lost
a
wash
station
and
we've
got
a
large
room
that
has
a
bunch
of
equipment
and
amenities
for
pets
which
we
know
will
have
in
the
building.
But
if
we
can
find
a
pet,
you
know
pet
shop
owner
or
pet
spa
owner
to
come
in,
and
you
know
allow
them
to
use
the
space
and
market
themselves.
You
know
in
a
manner
that's
free
in
a
location,
that's
going
to
be
very
active
and
have
pets,
etc.
N
So,
regarding
the
you
know,
mixed-use
sort
of
commercial
area,
we
do
have
tons
and
tons
of
amenities
in
here
and
a
lot
of
them
will
be
used
for
the
public
and
the
hope
is
that
all
of
them,
the
ones
that
we
have
designed
will
be
taken
by
you
know
small
business
owners
in
the
community
and
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
you
know
fruitful
conversations
with
people.
That's
this
view
here.
N
Okay,
I'll
cruise
through
it
and
again,
I'm
kind
of
duplicating
stuff
on
renderings.
This
is
our
our
northwest
corner
so
again,
fairmont
park
to
the
right,
1100
east
again
we're
at
placeholders
we've
been
looking
working
with
the
local
art
community.
There's
a
lot
of
very
interesting
things.
I
know
I
think
judy
might
speak
to
because
judy's
been
a
huge
advocate
of
ours
in
connecting
people
to
the
community
and
how
we
bring
the
right
art
and
history
and
murals
etc
to
the
community
that
ties
to
sugar
house,
not
just
some.
N
You
know
thoughtful
rainbow
design.
Here
again,
that's
just
the
placeholder.
Excuse
me
one
second
I'll
pull
this
up.
I
think
you
saw
this
on
another
one,
but
a
lot
of
our
you
know
our
excitement
around
this.
Amongst
many
things,
you
know,
has
been
an
amazing
fairmont
park
frontage.
So
we
have
designed
the
building
to
create
ground
floor,
townhomes
amenities,
the
pool
deck
you
can
see.
N
We
have
a
sky
lounge
which
is
actually
on
the
back
end,
but
a
lot
of
our
amenities
you
can
see
on
the
the
first
and
second
floor
is
third
floor,
which
is
our
co-working
space.
Fourth
floor
and
fifth
floor,
which
is
combo
fitness
and
the
pool
deck
you
know
all
face
the
park,
that's
it
for
my
presentation.
I
know
there
are
a
couple
other
comments
that
weren't
addressed
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
H
I
I
actually
I
I
think
I
he
didn't,
but
I've
been
looking
at
the
plans
so
more
closely,
but
the
things
we're
seeing
on
the
front
here
aside
from
things
on
the
right
hand,
side,
which
is
the
corner,
this
special
corner
piece
where
you
have
a
plaza.
You
have
a
an
additional
plaza
that
you're
that
you're
negotiating,
I
guess,
and
but
the
things
on
the
left
hand
and
then
farther
on
the
other
side
yeah.
Actually
too,
these
are
town
houses
that
have
their
entrance
right
on
the
street
right.
N
H
Yeah,
I
can't
see
your
cursor
oh
yeah.
They
are
sorry
right
and
then
above
that's,
okay
about
and
so
the
entrance
to
the
units
themselves.
I
mean
the
elevators
for
the
units
are
in
the
only
on
the
right
side.
Is
that
correct?
So
if
I
go,
if
I
had
to
go
all
the
way
around
or
how
do
I
get
into
the
units.
N
Correct
so
the
actual
entrance
to
town
home
units
are
on
the
ground
floor,
and
that
applies
to
all
12
of
them,
the
the
entrance
to
the
apartment
units.
As
soon
as
you
walk
in
our
lobby,
we
have
an
elevator
core
in
the
lobby
that
will
take
you
up.
We
also
have
elevator
cores.
They
go
into
the
parking
garage
as
well.
H
N
H
E
N
N
N
H
About
the
streetscape
with
that,
because
I
know
that
ramps
like
that
and
places
where
you
have
to
go
down
are
not
exactly
a
great
streetscape.
This
is
the
wonderful
streetscape
here
that
we're
showing.
But
if
the
ashton
avenue
streetscape
has
you
know
things
which
go
into
the
ground,
that's
a
little
bit
different.
I
N
I
Is
across
from
the
dodo,
if
you
recall,
there's
a
21
in
view
apartment
just
up
the
street
in
sugar
house,
where
the
ground
floor
units
on
the
one
section
of
the
building
are
kind
of
submerged
into
the
terrain,
and
it's
for
it's
just
for
a
couple
units
at
the
dodo.
It's
a
really
good
example
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
H
E
N
The
stairwells
that
go
down
are
actually
really
hugging
the
building
we
had
to
pull
those
back
so
that
it
did
not
encroach,
but
we
do
have
an
extended
sidewalk
out,
so
we
have
sidewalk.
We
have
the
trees
that
are
spaced.
It's
really
not
much
different
than
the
the
experience
that
a
pedestrian
will
have
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
because
the
stairwells
originally
were
designed
to
come.
N
H
A
M
M
You
know
up
till
july
we
had
had
numerous
meetings
with
these
guys,
as
mark
said,
giving
them
all
sorts
of
feedback,
and
they
they
sucked
it
up
and
out,
came
improved
buildings.
It's
been
great
great
to
work
with,
so
we
didn't
hear
another
word
about
the
1121
project
until
I
saw
it
on
the
planning
commission
for
tonight.
M
M
This
is
irritating.
The
developer
did
provide
a
slide
that
shows
the
current
materials,
but
it's
difficult
to
interpret
where
they
might
be
used
on
this
large
building.
The
building
is
well
designed
and
clearly
meets
the
design
standards
required
in
the
sugar
house.
Business
district
zone-
I
think
this
is
the
first
building.
That's
asking
for
nearly
105
feet
of
height,
which
is
allowed
under
design
review.
M
M
It's
my
understanding,
there'll
be
improvements
to
the
dog
parks
such
as
extra
lighting.
This
dog
park,
right
across
from
ashton
avenue,
makes
this
building
much
safer,
makes
that
makes
the
dog
park
feel
much
safer.
I
think,
due
to
the
unusual
right
of
way
for
11th
east
they'll
be
looking
to
collaborate
with
the
city
and
enhance
the
use
of
fairmont
with
wider
public
sidewalks
and
mark
talked
about
food
trucks
and
that
sort
of
thing
they
will
use
local
artists
for
the
murals.
They
will
have
some
old
sugarhouse
photos
in
the
walkways.
M
M
Sidewalks
will
be
eight
feet
or
wider
to
comply
with
the
recently
approved
sugarhouse
business
district
guidelines
and
the
low-cost
retail
space
is
amazing.
Sugarhouse
used
to
be
known
for
the
small
cute
shops
we
had,
but
they're
now
charging,
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
some
number
like
ten
thousand
dollars
to
rent
one
of
those
shops
per
month.
M
M
M
The
law
library,
is
a
good
example.
We
don't
like
the
transportation
department's
assessment
that
there's
too
many
parking
stalls
if
they're
willing
to
provide
these,
they
should
be
allowed.
The
neighborhood
in
this
area
has
been
groaning
for
some
years
since
liberty,
village
apartments
were
built,
but
the
overflow
parking
has
filled
up
their
neighborhood.
M
The
red,
paving
currently
being
used
by
the
city
for
crosswalks
would
be
a
fine
substitute
for
the
red
brick
material
shown
in
the
original
plants.
Transportation
thought
the
brick
wouldn't
be
long-lived
too
much
maintenance
and
to
reiterate,
no
public
comments
have
been
submitted
up
to
now,
because
we've
received
no
notification
by
the
city.
A
C
C
That's
something
that
certainly
you
know
those
plans
would
be
available
on
that,
and
you
know
we
could
look
at
if
there's
a
certain
criteria
for
notifying
of
any
changes
or
whatever
but
yeah
it
was
sent
on
july
7th,
and
I
I
did
receive
pretty
immediate
feedback
from
the
council
chair
that
that
they
had
been
working
closely
with
the
the
developers
and
did
not
need
to
receive
any
other
updates
or
comments,
and
if
they
did,
they
would
reach
out
to
me.
So
that's
how
I
proceeded.
H
A
I
would
just
say
mark
one
comment
I
would
make
as
a
frequent
user
of
the
dog
park
many
days
a
week.
The
lighting
would
be
great.
It
would
be
awesome
if
you
were
going
to
maybe
partner
with
friends
of
fairmount
park
to
plant
some
trees.
We
lost
some
in
the
dog
park
due
to
the
heavy
snow.
That
would
be
a
really
nice
partnership
as
well.
Just
throw
that
out
there
if
commissioners
are
ready,
I'm
willing
to
entertain
a
motion
I'll
make
a
motion.
H
Madam
chair,
please,
based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approves
its
alzheimer's
request
for
the
altoterra
north
project
located
at
1121
east
ashen
avenue
for
petition
pln
pcm
2021-00548.
A
L
I
A
B
E
D
Know
that
you,
you
all,
have
hung
in
there,
so
I
will
try
to
I'm
basically
just
going
to
throw
a
lot
at
you
and
I'm
absolutely
fine.
If
you
want
to
hold
questions
and
to
email
to
me-
or
you
know
for
another
time,
because
I
realize
we're
get
we're
getting
late
here.
But
I
do
have
a
presentation
that
I'd
like
to
share,
and
this
is
really
just
to
give
you
an
overview
of
what
we're
currently
working
on.
And
then
I
anticipate
that
the
plan
will
be.
D
D
D
Just
to
briefly
introduce
myself
to,
I
haven't
met
all
of
you.
I've
met
a
few
of
you,
I'm
the
urban
designer
in
salt
lake
city
and
I
work
in
the
planning
division.
But,
as
this
title
of
this
might
clue,
you
in
I
collaborate
with
departments
citywide
to
address
urban
design
needs,
and-
and
this
is
really
just
an
overview
presentation
to
orient
you
to
what
we're
doing
and
why
we're
doing
it.
D
D
The
urban
forests
can
provide
a
tremendous
return
on
investment,
but
we
need
a
plan
and
a
strategy
to
make
sure
that
we
are
reaping
those
benefits
and
also
using
our
natural
resources
wisely
and
efficiently
and
then,
really
importantly,
we
want
to
distribute
it's
a
public
good.
We
want
the
urban
forest
to
be
spread
equitably
across
the
city,
to
do
that
at
scale
is
really
going
to
require
partnerships
across
communities,
agencies,
institutions
and
the
public
and
private
sector,
so
just
to
briefly
go
into
the
urban
forest
benefits.
I'm
not
going
to
read
these
to.
D
Air
quality-
we
all
know
about
inversions,
but
we
also
have,
if
you
can
see
from
this
graph
here,
a
pretty
persistent
summer.
Air
quality
problem,
although
and
we've
started
to
improve
our
winter
air
quality
and
the
and
that
summer,
air
pollution
is
really
ozone
and
the
right
trees
in
the
right
places
can
address
ozone
pollution.
D
D
Most
people
are
familiar
with
trees,
impact
on
increasing
property
values,
but
the
other
thing
that's
really
interesting
is
that
when
you
incorporate
trees
into
you
know
very
consciously
into
the
design
of
neighborhoods,
it
provides
more
and
better
opportunities
for
neighbors
to
socialize
and
build
community,
and
there
are
studies
that
demonstrate
an
association
between
the
number
of
trees
and
community
cohesion
in
urban
neighborhoods,
so
kind
of
big
picture.
What
we're
hoping?
D
So,
for
example,
with
growth,
the
urban
forest,
you
know
healthy
trees
can
add
value
for
developers
by
increasing
property
values,
but
they
we
can
also
potentially
trade
space
for
on-site
storm
water
retention,
potentially
providing
more
area
to
develop.
One
thing
we're
looking
at
is
incentives
for
suspended
pavement
systems
downtown,
which
I'll
get
into
a
little
bit
to
get
large
trees
that
would
mitigate
those
urban
heat
island
impacts
and
reduce
stormwater
flows
and
improve
water
quality
environment.
I
kind
of
talked
about
a
little
bit.
D
One
thing
that
we're
looking
at
too
is
how
heat,
in
addition
to
air
quality,
creates
a
public
health
burden
on
those
who
are
the
most
vulnerable,
so
children
and
older
adults,
and
then
these
impacts
are
disproportionately
experienced
by
low-income
community
members
and
then
in
terms
of
how
it's
going
to
align
with
our
goals
for
community
our.
My
my
next
slide
is
talking
about
analysis.
The
we've
been
doing
will
kind
of
kind
of
give.
D
D
D
But
when
we
look
at
our
other
master
plan
areas,
we
find
a
phenomenon.
That's
you
see
throughout
cities
in
the
u.s,
which
is
that
wealthier
communities
have
more
tree
canopy
and
thus
you
know
reap
greater
benefits
from
the
urban
forest
than
lower
income
communities.
So
the
avenues
east
bench
and
sugar
house
have
about
twice
the
canopy
as
the
northwest
and
master
plan
areas
and
then
downtown,
of
course,
actually
has
the
lowest
amount
of
tree
coverage
of
all
of
our
master
plan
areas.
D
The
east
side
has
about
four
times
the
canopy
of
downtown
and
so
in
downtown.
Some
of
this
is
related
to
historical
redlining
practices,
but
it
also
has
to
do
with
those
very
challenging
growing
conditions
in
the
area
of
the
city.
That's
the
most
highly
paved
and
and
has
very
difficult
growing
conditions
for
trees.
D
Salt
lake
city
recognizes
the
lasting
impact
of
redlining
federal
policy
that
was
implemented
nearly
a
century
ago
and
we're
certainly
not
alone
here.
The
multiple
recent
studies
in
cities
throughout
the
united
states
demonstrate
similar
phenomenon
between
wealthier
neighborhoods
having
greater
tree
canopy,
and
it
typically
works
out
to
be
twice
the
amount
of
lower
income,
historically
redlined
areas,
and
just
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit
more
closely,
you
can
see
again
those
redlined
or
d
grade
areas
have
the
least
amount
of
tree
canopy.
D
That
said,
the
east
bench
has
west
facing
slopes,
but
the
surface
temperatures
still
average
out
to
be
cooler
again.
The
redlining
policies
of
the
past.
You
know
have
implications
here,
and
I
should
note
it's
there's
a
complex
interaction
of
variables,
but
at
least
looking
at
surface
temperatures
kind
of
gives
us
an
idea
of
which
areas
in
the
city
need
more
shade
and
cooling
and
we're
working
with
partners
at
the
university
of
utah
to
get
kind
of
more
accurate
and
more
specific
kind
of
measurements.
D
D
D
So
kind
of
again
big
picture
anticipated
recommendations
of
the
plan.
I
won't
read
this
to
you,
but
it
goes
back
to
those
public
goods
valuing
getting
our
the
return
on
investment
by
valuing
the
ecosystem
and
quality
of
life
benefits.
We're
also
looking
at
how
to
provide
solutions
in
the
right
of
way
where
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
competition.
D
So,
just
again
I'll
give
you
one
quick
example:
solution
the
there's
a
lot
at
sort
of
every
level
in
the
plan,
but
this
will
just
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
highlight
one
example
for
paved
areas.
So
I
mentioned
earlier
suspended
pavement
systems.
Sometimes
people
refer
to
them
with
the
brand
name
silva
cell.
D
Because
again
so
much
of
that
supporting
stuff
is,
is
underground
and
not
being
impacted
by
the
you
know,
flotsam
and
jetsam
of
urban
life.
So
that
is
the
end
of
my
presentation.
I
know
I
kind
of
threw
a
lot
at
you
all
at
once.
At
the
memo
that
was,
I
submitted
had
a
lot
more
information
about
kind
of
what
our
next
steps
are,
and
I
also
gave
you
the
first
four
draft
chapters
to
look
at.
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
take
questions
now.
D
If,
basically,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
were
aware
that
this
was
happening
and
that
this
was
kind
of
coming
down
the
pike
for
you
to
make
some
decisions
on
and
again
you
know
right
now.
This
is
really
focused
on
kind
of
all
of
our
our
streetscapes
parks.
Golf
courses,
you
know
land
that
the
city
owns,
which
I
know
you
guys
tend
to
make
a
lot
more
decisions
about.
D
K
I
have
a
few
comments
laura.
This
is
an
outstanding
report.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this.
I
I
read
it
actually
fairly
carefully
and
I
shared
it
with
several
people,
because
I
I
do
think
that
air
quality
is
a
first
order
problem.
I
I
agree
100
with
the
mayor
on
this
and
there's
limited
things
we
can
do
about
climate
change.
We
can
deal
with
cars.
K
K
To
plant
more
trees-
and
I
wondered
about
there's
a
currently
a
1.5
fee-
that
the
redevelopment
agency
is-
is
charging
on
all
new
projects.
It's
going
to
public
art
great,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
willingness
to
pay,
my
guess
is
the
public
of
salt
lake
city
would
benefit
more
from
some
of
that
being
reallocated
to
more
urban
forests.
I
was
I'm
ever
so
slightly,
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous
when
I
see
things
about
higher
impact
fees,
which
the
report
did
mention
as
one
potential
funding
mechanism.
K
The
concern
that
can
arise
is,
if
you
make
development
too
costly
in
salt
lake
city
proper.
We
have
people
moving
out
to
taylorsville
and
ever
further
places,
so,
perversely,
they
drive
more
to
come
in
and
we
sort
of
have
the
perverse
effects
that
I've
seen
in
some
cities,
where
a
very
well
intentioned
environmental
regulation
actually
has
the
opposite
effect.
K
So
I'm
a
little
bit
and
of
course,
the
redevelopment
fees
at
this
point
given
most
of
the
development
is
on
the
west
side,
where
you
highlighted
incredibly
well,
you
know
the
historic
problems
they've
been
having
that
would
fall
on
their
affordable
housing
issues.
So
I
I
it
just
might
be
something
to
bring
up
with
the
mayor
and
council
is
that
redevelopment
agency
again
public
art
is
great,
but
we
have
you
know.
We
just
have
limited
resources
in
terms
of
funding
mechanism,
and
my
guess
is
a
higher
priority
for
our
citizens
is.
H
Many
of
those
trees
are
actually
still
with
us
and
they
really
provide
for
us
not
only
shade
and
environmental
impacts,
but
they
also
provide
the
urban
design
and
imageability
of
our
entire
city.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
hugely
important
thing.
I
I
it
it's
a
very
long
report
and
it's
only
the
first
four
chapters,
and
so
I
also
recommend
that
we
have
a
an
executive
summary,
that's
pretty
easy
to
read
and
has
the
takeaways
that
are
critical
to
all
of
us
about
about
what
we
can
do.
H
Also,
how
do
we
actually
implement
some
of
these
policies?
We
can
plant
a
lot
of
trees,
but
we
can't
water
them
all.
So
this
is
a
this.
Is
these
are
issues
that
are,
I
mean
they're
minor,
but
they're?
Also
major,
I
mean.
If
we
I
mean
we
are
going
to
the
early
pioneers
watered
all
those
trees
and
they
watered
them.
You
know
with
little
canals
at
the
little
tiny
canals
that
they
that
they
did
on
them
little
gutters
that
they
they
planted.
So
I
mean
it.
H
D
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think
so
to
just
briefly
address
that
you
will
see
we
have
a
very
the
chapter
five,
so
there
will
be
an
executive
summary
and
then
chapter
five
is
really
kind
of
the
meat
of
the
plan
and
that's
the
action
plan
and-
and
it's
very
much,
this
very
broad
range
of
strategies,
from
kind
of
the
highest
level
to
the
smallest
level,
and
you
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
benefits,
and
this
also
actually
answers
one
of
the
questions
about
impact
fees.
D
You
know
in
some
places
we
have
the
enormous
park
strips
and
we
have
ample
place
space
for
trees.
We
just
need
to
be
careful
about
how
we
co-locate
utilities,
but
there
are
certain
areas
like
downtown
where
we've
just
sort
of
maxed
out
the
space
and
if
we
want
trees
that
are
the
right
scale
to
get
the
urban
design,
image
ability
and
the
shade.
D
We
need
to
look
at
other
solutions,
but
yeah
I'm
excited
to
get
your
feedback.
When
I
right
now,
I've
been
working
with
communities
just
kind
of
introducing
them
to
what
we're
doing
to
get
their
feedback,
because
the
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
just
you
know,
show
up
in
a
neighborhood
and
say:
hey,
let's
plant
trees
and
we're
going
to
solve
your
problems.
D
H
D
So
as
urban
designer
this,
like
I
mean
I
tear
my
hair
about
this
on
the
regular,
because
you
know
I
feel
like
we
have
these
enormous
right-of-ways
and
yet
I
end
up
arguing
with
people
about
a
five-foot
sidewalk,
so
part
of
it
is
simply
that
people
take
the
path
of
least
resistance.
So
they'll
put
the
utilities
straight
down
the
middle
of
the
park
strip
when
it'd
be
better
to
locate
them.
Next,
to
the
curb
to
give
the
tree
roots
more
room
in
some
places
we
have.
D
Unfortunately,
you
know
most
cities
do
vertical
stacked
utilities.
We
have
so
much
space
that
we've
just
sort
of
spread
them
out
wherever
and
it
depends
obviously
on
the
age
of
the
street
and
so
forth,
but
I
think
again,
that's
sort
of
part
of
getting
people
on
the
same
page.
If
trees
are
seen
as
sort
of
like
this
aesthetic
throw
away,
then
other
utilities
are
more
important,
but
if
we
can
reframe
it
and
say
no,
this
is
also
infrastructure.
D
E
D
D
A
So
I
know
laurel
you've
been
focusing
on
public
right-of-ways,
but
I
think
one
of
our
one
of
the
biggest
things
for
heat
islands
are
massive
parking
lots
and
it
would
be
nice
if
this
plan
could
somehow,
especially
with
your
point
number
four
of
you-
know,
recommendations
to
reviewers
and
that
somehow
find
a
way
to
to
encourage
not
in
like
impervious
type
of
parking
lot.
They
don't
have
to
always
be
concrete
or
asphalt.
A
I've
seen
many
examples
in
other
places
where
they've
incorporated
many
other
different
types
of
materials
that
allow
water
infiltration,
but
somehow
to
encourage
or
focus
on
getting
more
trees
in
parking
lots,
so
they're
not
just
on
the
perimeter,
but
that
there
there's
more
trees
within
the
parking
lot
to
help
with
that
that
urban
heat
would
be
really
nice.
I
think
that's
one
of
our
biggest
one
of
the
things
I
hate
the
most
are
big
surface
parking
lots
to
just
radiate
heat
them.
You
know,
could
fry
an
egg
or
something?
D
A
A
K
Look,
I
want
to
be
very
careful
about
preserving
that
it
is
incentivizing
and
not
a
prohibition
that
makes
development
much
more
costly.
In
certain
circumstances.
I
think
everybody
in
the
commission
is
pretty
sensitive
to
this,
but
I
just
want
to
be
I
I
want
us
to
not
shoot
ourselves
in
the
foot
with
a
badly
worded
change
to
the
zoning
statute.
That
is,
we
are
preserving
a
tree
at
all
costs.
I
just
want
us
to
be
very
careful
if
we
are
involved
at
all
in
drafting
that
language.
E
No,
and
I
I
think
the
way
the
approach
is,
if
you
take
a
tree
down,
then
you
have
to
replace
with
so
many.
I
don't
think
anybody
would
suggest
you
take
that
away,
but
think
creatively
about.
If
you
save
the
tree,
then
you'll
get
these
additional
benefits
that
you
get
to
take
advantage
of.
So
it's
I.