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Planning Commission Meeting - February 10, 2021
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A
A
A
A
I
was
just
writing
the
members
down
all
right.
Thank
you
all
welcome
to
the
meeting
of
the
salt
city
planning
commission
for
february
10th
2021.
I
will
call
to
meeting
to
order
before
we
begin
michaela
or
whoever
would
like
to
tell
people
how
they
can
participate
in
this
meeting.
B
I
would
love
to
thank
you,
tonight's,
the
planning
commission
february
10
2021.
If
you'd
like
to
join
this
virtual
planning
commission
meeting,
you
can
input
the
link
on
your
web
browser
or
you
can
visit
our
website
after
we
take
down
this
screen
and
you
can
go
to
www
www.slc.gov
public
meetings,
slash
planning,
commission
agenda
minutes
and
you
click
on
today's
date
and
the
agenda,
and
that
webex
link
is
on
our
on
tonight's
agenda.
B
If
this
is
one
of
the
first
times
that
you've
used
webex
to
visit
or
to
join
a
virtual
meeting,
we
do
also
have
a
step-by-step
instruction
guide
there
if
you're
having
any
issues.
If
you
need
help,
if
you'd
like
to
send
in
some
comments
to
be
read
into
the
record,
please
email
us
at
planning
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com.
B
We
have
planning
staff
that
is
monitoring
our
email.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
heads
up.
I
am
hosting
this
meeting
right
now.
However,
my
webex
is
acting
quite
strange
right.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
read
a
declaration
for
you
about
this
meeting.
I
brenda
shear,
chair
of
the
planning
commission,
hereby
determine
that
conducting
the
salt
lake
city
planning
commission
meeting
at
an
anchor
location
represents
a
substantial
risk
to
the
health
and
safety
of
those
who
may
be
present
at
the
anchor
location.
A
The
world
health
organization,
the
president
of
the
united
states,
the
governor
of
utah,
the
salt
lake
county
health
department,
salt
lake
county
mayor
and
the
mayor
of
salt
lake
city
have
all
recognized.
A
global
pandemic
exists
related
to
the
strain
of
coronavirus
sars
cov2,
due
to
the
state
of
emergency
caused
by
the
global
pandemic.
Conducting
a
meeting
at
an
anchor
location
under
the
current
state
of
public
health
emergency
constitutes
a
substantial
risk
to
the
health
and
safety
of
those
who
may
be
present
at
that
location.
A
So
going
forward
with
our
agenda
tonight,
do
we
we
will
now.
I
will
now
entertain
a
motion
about
the
minutes.
C
A
Okay,
I
have
a
okay.
I
have
a
motion
maureen
in
a
second
from
carolyn.
All,
in
fact,
that's
excuse
me,
elevator.
What
I'm
doing.
I'm
gonna
call
the
roll
now
and
we'll
find
out
who's
here.
Matt.
D
D
E
A
F
A
F
A
D
G
D
A
And
I
have
it
that
andres
and
sarah
are
not
here.
Is
that
correct.
D
A
Correct,
okay,
thank
you.
The
amendments
are
approved
and
now
we
have
the
report
of
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair,
and
I
have
nothing
to
report.
Madam
vice
chair,
do
you
have
anything
to
report?
I
do
not
thank
you
and
the
report
of
the
director
michaela.
B
Are
you
nothing
to
report
tonight
wayne
and
I
are
are
on
the
meeting.
I
did
want
to
mention
one
thing
tonight.
We
don't
anticipate
any
issues,
but
tonight
the
city
at
eight
o'clock
will
be
doing
an
internal
system
upgrade
to
our
vpn
system.
We
don't
anticipate
a
hiccup,
but
you
know
such
as
life
and
covid
and
us
all
being
in
virtual
meetings.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
We
should
be
good,
hopefully.
A
A
A
F
Am
thank
you,
madam
chair
marlene.
Can
I
get
a.
A
F
The
applicant
magid
with
next
get
group
is
requesting
an
amendment
to
the
master
plan,
future
land
use
map
and
the
zoning
map
for
the
property
located
at
461
south
400
east.
The
proposal
is
to
amend
the
master
plan
and
rezone
the
property.
The
amendments
proposed
are
for
redevelopment
of
the
site
that
would
accommodate
residential
retail
and
live
work
units
and
would
eliminate
the
parking
structures
which
one
which
front
500,
south
400,
east
and
denver
street.
F
Currently,
the
property
is
located
in
the
rmu,
45
district
or
residential
mixed
use.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
rezone
the
site
to
tsa
unc
or
transit
station
area.
Urban
neighborhood,
core
zoning
district
staff
reviewed
the
applicant
with
the
applicant
other
districts
to
ensure
the
best
compatibility
with
the
surrounding
community
and
found
the
tsa
unc
to
be
the
most
appropriate
to
the
area.
F
The
proposal
also
includes
an
amendment
to
the
central
community
master
master
plan,
future
land
use
map
from
residential
office
mixed
use
to
high
density
transit.
Transit-Oriented
development
staff
has
found
that
amending
this
site
from
residential
office
mixed-use
to
high-density
transit-oriented
development
is
appropriate
in
the
master
plan,
as
the
central
community
master
plan
promotes
walkable
development
and
fostering
transit-oriented
development.
F
F
F
F
F
As
the
central
business
district
excuse
me
continues
to
grow
and
housing
prices
increase,
there
will
be
a
continued
increase
in
demand
for
housing
and
an
increase
in
housing
density
by
focusing
housing
in
areas
of
the
city
that
are
able
to
support
an
increase
in
density.
It
also
alleviates
the
demand
in
areas
of
the
city
that
do
not
have
the
infrastructure
to
support
the
density.
F
The
tsa
district
allows
for
a
more
dense
type
of
development
through
through
a
reduction
of
setbacks,
as
well
as
building
heights.
This
is
because
the
tsa
is
encouraged
in
areas
that
has
the
infrastructure
to
manage
an
increase
in
density.
The
land
uses
permitted
are
generally
the
same
in
both
districts,
with
the
exceptions
on
the
presentation
screen.
F
F
F
The
tsa
district
requires
a
more
strict
design
standard
in
the
zone,
which
includes
more
strict
standards
for
the
percent
of
ground
floor,
active
ground
floor
uses
more
durable
ground
and
upper
floor
materials,
the
number
of
building
entrances
and
the
building
facade
links
that's
permitted
in
the
zone,
while
the
tsa
unc
district
doesn't
have
a
minimum
setback.
It
is
still
similar
to
the
existing
districts
and
the
surrounding
to
the
existing
district
and
the
surrounding
zoning
districts.
F
The
current
rmu
45
district
requires
the
five
foot
setback.
This
is
the
same
for
properties
to
the
east
and
west
of
the
subject
site,
all
of
which
are
also
zoned.
Rmu
45,
the
property
to
the
south,
is
in
the
rmu
district.
The
rmu
district
does
not
require
a
setback
and
the
building
may
be
built
to
the
property
line.
This
district
does
does
have
a
maximum
setback
of
25
feet.
F
The
difference
between
the
rmu
45
district
and
the
tsa
unc
district
also
includes
the
allowed
building
heights.
The
permitted
height
in
the
rmu
45
district
is
45
feet,
but
allows
for
structures
up
to
55
feet
through
a
design
review
that
is
specific
to
the
building
height.
The
tsa
unc
district
allows
for
a
maximum
building
height
up
to
75
feet.
F
The
difference
between
the
two
districts
is
about
two
stories:
it's
difficult
to
determine
density
potential
on
the
site
as
there's
so
many
variables
that
affect
density
like
parking
building,
layout,
land
use
and
residential
unit
size
staff,
however,
doesn't
anticipate
negative
outcomes
because
of
an
increase
in
density
in
this
area.
Not
only
is
the
site
located
near
different
modes
of
transit,
it
also
borders
500
south
in
an
arterial
street
and
to
the
south
600
south.
Another
major
arterial
street.
F
Finally,
looking
at
the
surrounding
district's
permitted
building
heights
to
the
east
and
west
of
the
subject,
site
also
has
a
maximum
permitted
height
of
45
feet,
with
an
allowed
increase
to
55
feet
with
the
design
review.
So
the
immediate
north
of
the
site
is
a
district
that
permits
a
building
up
to
75
feet
and
to
the
south
of
the
site
and
is
the
rmu
district,
which
allows
a
non-residential
building
to
be
built
to
a
height
of
45
feet
or
a
mixed
use.
A
Okay,
does
the
applica
do
anyone
have
any
questions
for
nanette
before
we
move
on
to
the
applicant.
E
Yeah,
madame
chocolate,
just
a
quick
question:
I
noticed
kind
of
further
east
the
tsa
unc
kind
of
fills
the
whole
block
kind
of
on
the
you
know,
above
fifth,
east
and
kind
of
goes
that
way
up
until
70s.
E
I
know
there's
also
a
transition
zone
that
often
is
kind
of
tied
into
these
tsa
stuff.
I'm
wondering
if
that
was
looked
at
or
not
or
if
you
feel
like
the
transition
is
already
adequate
there.
You
know,
given
that
this
fifth
south
is
a
major
throwaway
as
a
sixth
south.
F
When
we
were
discussing
that
the
applicant
to
the
type
of
zone
that
would
be
possible
in
this
area,
we
did
discuss
the
transitions,
though
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
didn't
feel
like
it
fit.
The
best
is
the
rmu
district
allows
for
a
maximum
height
if
it's
mixed
use
of
75
feet
and
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
transition
zone
allowed
for
a
height
of
55
feet,
so
the
rmu
was
essentially
already
acting
as
a
type
of
transition
zone.
F
Also,
this
site
is
within
a
10
minute
of
two
transit
stations,
so
it
is
very
accessible
to
many
different
modes
of
transit.
E
A
I
I
D
I
Great,
so,
if
everybody's
able
to
see
it,
I
would
begin.
I
Okay-
great,
thank
you,
so
I'm
here
this
year
on
behalf
of
mexico
group,
which
is
the
property
owner
and
next
step,
is
a
small
family
business
which
my
dad
and
I
started
about
35
years
ago,
and
we
started
remodeling
a
single
family
home
and
we
grew
the
business
until
we
bought
the
what
we
call
465
plaza,
which
is
courses
at
one
south
back
in
2004.
I
We
voted
as
a
long-term
investment
and
we
intend
to
keep
the
property
in
the
family.
Just
to
give
you
a
brief
background.
When
we
bought
the
property
back
in
2004,
it
was
a
neglected
building
that
had
not
been
maintained
properly
for
a
number
of
years,
so
we
tried
to
upgrade
the
building
we
removed
the
skin,
which
was
an
old
mansport
style.
I
You
can
see
the
left
part
of
the
board
building,
so
we
removed
the
skin.
We
tried
to
use
different
materials,
we
did
stucco,
we
did
some
metal,
the
building
did
have
towers
of
fluted
block
and
we
added
some
stone
to
to
make
the
building
visually
more
pleasing.
I
Also,
we
realized
that
the
building
didn't
really
have
any
energy
efficient
features,
so
we
replace
the
windows
with
double
pane,
low
ease.
We
put
heat
pumps
in,
we
put
insulation
in
the
walls
and
ceilings
because,
to
our
dismay,
there
was
no
insulation
in
the
building
and
then
we
converted
a
significant
amount
of
the
grass
within
our
property
to
draw
tolerant
drip
irrigation
and
we
planted
some
native
plants,
and
then
we
did
some
hardscape.
I
So
between
2004
and
2008,
we
we
did
that
work
and
again
raise
the
occupancy,
and
recently
we
have
found
out
that
that,
as
we
all
have
noticed,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
development
taking
place
in
our
neighborhood
properties
around
us
are
getting
redeveloped
and
based
on
the
age
of
our
building.
I
That
were
north
and
south
of
us
to
get
a
feeling
for
what
is
potentially
going
to
be
developed
so
that
we
had
an
idea
of
where
we
are
and
what.
As
far
as
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood
as
as
nanette
mentioned
properties,
north
of
us
are
tsa
un
and
last
year
a
property
south
of
us
got
rezoned
to
rmu.
I
I
As
was
mentioned
before,
some
of
some
of
the
reasons
that
we
believe
that
the
re-zone
is
is
warranted
is
the
fact
that
we
are
within
quarter
mile
of
two
track
station.
The
trolley
station
and
and
library
station
are
within
equal
distance
and,
as
I
told
nanette,
depending
on
which
direction
I'm
I'm
going,
I
will
take
the
trolley.
That
brings
me
downhill
to
denver
street,
and
so
so
that's
one
of
them.
The
next
one
is,
you
know
after
we
reviewed
the
the
documents
that
were
prepared
by
the
city
or
others.
I
I
I
One
of
the
other
issues
that
was
brought
up
again
was
the
fact
that
the
building
was
built
back
in
70s
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
in
this
slide,
about
60
of
our
overall
coverage
is
parking
structures
and
parking.
So
out
of
the
two
and
a
half
acres
just
about
one
and
a
half
acres
of
it
is
right
now
is
being
used
as
parking
and
that's
not
something
that
city
would
like
to
see.
I
Points
of
this
property
when
it
comes
to
development
would
be
that
we
have
the
size
that
would
allow
us
to
provide
adequate
open
space,
provide
adequate
active
landscape
and
also
work
with
the
mass
and
its
scale
to
break
up
the
the
development
and
provide
a
pleasant
visual
experience.
Experience
for
people
that
walk
by
or
that
live
in
in
the
future
development.
A
Thank
you.
Would
anyone
on
the
po
does
anyone
on
the
commission
have
questions
for
the
applicant.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead,
I'm
sorry!
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
So
do
we
have
any
people?
I
see
one
hand.
A
J
Okay,
yeah.
J
Speaking
in
favor
of
the
rezone,
I
think
the
the
presenter
brought
up
a
great
point
about
the
parking
coverage
on
the
site
right
now.
This
the
current
development
on
the
site
is
very
stereotypical,
auto
oriented
development
kind
of
what
we're
trying
to
move
away
from
in
the
city.
J
I've
been
looking
at
the
site
on
google
street
view
and
there
is
absolutely
zero
engagement
with
the
sidewalk
on
this
building.
There's
even
a
big
rocky
climb
steps
to
the
entrance
of
the
building
that
you
would.
You
would
never
even
consider
walking
up
unless
you
have
businesses
that
build
them.
J
So
I
think
that
the
the
tsa
center
has
very
good
advantage
in
that
there's
no
required
setback
from
the
sidewalk
and
it
I
know
it's
kind
of
counter-intuitive,
but
if
you
want
a
walkable
neighborhood,
you
want
a
building
right
up
next
to
the
sidewalk,
where
you
can
interact
with
that
building
these
humans,
like
sticky,
edges
and
that's
kind
of
what
they're
referred
to
as
when
you
can
interact
with
with
a
space.
J
Also.
I
think
that
the
tsa
urban
center
has
a
very
good
advantage
in
that
there's
no
required
parking
spaces
for
residential
use
and
currently
there's
a
max
of
one
per
dwelling
unit.
That
may
change
with
the
update
to
the
parking
ordinance,
but
there
isn't
really
a
reason
that
this
site
needs
to
be
dominated
by
parking
being
so
close
to
tracks
and
even
walkability
to
downtown.
And
that's
it
thanks.
A
D
Other
hands
up,
no,
no
emails
have
come
through
either.
So
I
think
that's
it.
E
My
only
just
con
is
a
thing
about
developing
a
spot.
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
some
kind
of
support
of
it,
but
I
think
denver
street's
a
great
kind
of
mid
block
for
that
kind
of
north
south
connection,
but
I
know
we're
also
looking
at
trying
ways
to
get
also
get
east
west
connections
there.
I'm
trying
to
remember
that
I
don't,
oh,
I
don't
think
the
block
just
to
the
east
of
it
with
that
new
development
actually
has
an
east-west
connection.
E
I
know
there's
some
issues
with
the
bank
and
everything
else
in
that
parking
garage,
but
I
know
there
was
some
talk
about
trying
to
get
that
there
and
so
when,
if
we
do
the
future
development
here,
that
just
did
that
and
they
in
that
in
the
airplane
comes
back
to
this
body
for
application.
Looking
also
east-west
connections
is
important.
Not
just
denver
street
is
a
way
that
we're
breaking
up
these
large
blocks.
A
G
A
Okay,
I
do
have
some
comments
of
my
own
that
I
would
like
to
make
about
this,
which
is
that
I'm
actually
opposed
to
this
particular
proposal.
I
think
that
this
project
can
be
easily
developed
with
existing
redeveloped,
with
the
existing
zoning
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
I
don't
want
it
to
be
changed,
but
the
the
major
reason
for
me
is
that
we
have
to
look
at
the
different
qualities
of
different
streets.
A
Fort
south
is
a
commercial
street
with
tracks
running
through
it,
and
therefore
tsa
unc
is
with
its
intensity.
Its
height,
its
lining
of
retail
shops
and
so
forth
is
very
appropriate.
Fifth
south,
on
the
other
hand,
has
consistently
all
the
way
from
a
little
bit
west
of
this
side.
All
the
way
to
up
to
13th
east
has
this
large
setback,
not
a
large
setback,
but
a
five-foot
setback
off
of
a
very
large
tree
line,
which
creates
an
entirely
different
character.
A
If
you
change
this
to
the
tsa
unc,
you
will
not
have
that
character
reinforced
here,
you
will
still
be
able,
if
you
do,
the
rmu
45
you'll
still
be
able
to
redevelop
this
project
property
as
residential
with
appropriate
parking
and
and
it
will
be
in
a
different
kind
of
character,
more
like
south
temple,
in
terms
of
the
quality
of
the
street,
not
a
commercial
street
per
se,
not
that
it
wouldn't
have
some
kind
of
mixed
use,
but
a
street
that's
very
comfortable
and
has
a
lot
of
landscaping
along
it,
and
I
so,
and
so
I
don't
actually
see
any
reason
to
change
this
zoning
at
all.
A
E
So
brenda
actually
had
a
written,
interesting
thoughts
originally,
and
I
guess
maybe
what
you
don't
want.
I'm
curious
on
your
feedback.
Maybe
it's
just
it's
a
mistake,
because
it's
a
fun
way
to
think
about
two,
but
just
when
I
looked
at
the
zoning
map,
that
from
fifth
east
to
seventh
east
on
on
this
block
of
fifth
south,
is
all
the
same
zone:
tsa.
U
and
c,
and
even
if
you
cross
seventh
east
on
along
the
fifth
south
kind
of
block,
it's
that's
what
actually
is
a
transition
zone
and
so
which.
E
Maybe
are
we
intending
this
whole
kind
of
fourth
and
fifth
south
block
to
be
all
tsa
zone
in
the
same
way,
that
kind
of
up
from
four
south
is,
but
I
mean.
A
Fifth,
east
to
the
west,
to
the
east,
to
the
east
is
a
historic
zone.
So
that's
a
that's
kind
of
a
completely
different
animal
there.
It's
part
of
the
historic
district,
but
even
so
currently
those
setbacks
are
in
place
everywhere
there
now
there
may
not
be
required
in
the
future,
but
they
are
there.
Now.
J
E
A
And
that
that
pattern
exists
now
and
that's
why
I'm
thinking
that
that
was
actually
part
of
the
master
plan,
I
mean
we
have
to
kind
of
respect
the
master
plan
as
it
as
it
as
it
is
in
a
sense,
and-
and
you
know
if
this
was
a
really
tight
site,
where
it'd
be
hard
to
build
anything.
A
A
B
You
know,
staff
has
found
that
there
is
intent
language
to
change
the
master
plan,
it's
that
there
are
livable
communities
and
neighborhoods
fightable,
vital,
sustainable
commerce,
unique
active
places,
increasing
pedestrian
mobility
and
accessibility,
and
you
know
all
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
local
historic
district.
One
complaint
with
the
loc
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
development
pressure
on
our
local
historic
districts,
particularly
in
central
city.
B
We
definitely
need
to
balance
those
goals
with
also
the
need
to
provide
provide
housing
and
staff
has
found
enough
policies
in
the
master
plan
to
support
this
and
and
recommend
that
you
forward
a
positive
recommendation.
I
don't
want
to
diminish,
diminish
the
quality
of
the
the
setbacks
on
fifth
fifth
south.
C
For
us,
in
the
master
plan
can
be
satisfactorily
met
with
the
existing
zone
and,
if
I
remember
reading
it
right,
plain
and
staff,
you
know
drew
these
lines
not
that
long
ago,
in
2011,
which
in
the
planning
world
is
like
yesterday
right.
So
I
I
feel
like
this
rmu
45,
which
you
can
go
up
to
55
feet
in
that
is.
C
I'm
gonna
meet
all
of
those
things
that
that
we've
been
talking
about
in
the
master
plan
that
we
want
to
meet,
reduces
surface
parking
for
sure,
get
more
density
and
some
residential
housing
in
there
and
still
and
and
still
yeah.
I
think
I'm
I'm
convinced
that
rmu
is
still
the
appropriate
zone
for
this.
B
G
I
don't
know,
I
think
our
city's
growing
pretty
quickly
and
I
think
we
need
to
start
rethinking
our
density
and
we,
I
think
we
should
push
for
more
density,
because
it's
going
to
reduce
traffic,
it's
going
to
create
more
of
a
need
for
transit,
which
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
make
this,
you
know
reduced
parking
scenario
that
we're
really
pushing
for
work.
G
We
need
to
increase
transit
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
to
increase
density
and
increase
the
need
for
the
transit,
and
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
to
to
start
thinking
about
our
city
as
a
growing
larger
city
downtown,
and
I
think
you
know
this
is
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
do
that,
I
think
being
hesitant
about.
It,
is
gonna,
impede
the
growth
of
the
city
and
and
negatively
impact.
You
know
a
lot
of
those
elements
that
we're
trying
to
push
for,
so
that
that
would
be
my
comment
on
it.
B
One
thing
that
I
just
want
to
point
out
as
well
citing
mastercam
plans.
Yes,
ten
years
ago
we
take
a
look
at
the
transit
station
areas,
but
plant
salt
lake
was
adopted
after
after
we
did
that
work
in
the
planning
division
and
it's
pretty
clear
from
plant
plant
salt
lake
that
we
promote
high
density
residential
in
areas
that
are
served
by
transit.
B
E
Well
to
kill
the
time
is
commercial
required
on
the
ground
floor
of
a
tsa
zonus
on
your
map
is
required.
Typically,
that
sort
of
development.
F
The
tsa
unc
has
as
part
of
the
design
standard
requirement.
It
requires
active
ground
floor
uses,
so
it
can't
be
a
parking
lot.
It
doesn't
specifically
require
that
the
ground
floor
be
commercial
though.
E
F
A
live
work
would
qualify
as
an
active
ground
floor
used.
C
Okay,
well,
if
there's
no
more
discussion,
then
I
will
entertain
a.
E
E
I'll
I'll
make
the
motion,
but
I
I
feel
bad
doing
it
without
brenda.
Here
I
feel
like
I'm,
sneaking
it.
E
C
E
Basic
information
southport
for
the
planning
commission
recommended
the
city
council
approved
the
proposed
master
plan
amendment
as
presented
in
petition
plm-pcm
2020
zero,
zero,
eight
four.
Additionally,
I
also
moved
planning
commission
recommend.
The
city
council
approved
the
proposed
zoning
map
amendment
as
presented
in
pln
pcm
2020
00806.
C
Okay
seconded
or
motion
by
matt
seconded
by
crystal
so
just
to
clarify
michaela.
We
have
enough
of
a
quorum
without
me.
Voting
right.
C
That's
okay!
I
just
wanted
to
double
check
on
that.
I'm
sorry,
then,
who
did?
Was
it
maureen?
The
second
is
it
was
me
it
was
maureen.
Okay,
I'm
sorry.
So
I
have
a
motion
by
matt
and
a
second
by
maureen,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
take
the
roll
call,
as
I
think
I
have
it.
But
if
I
miss
somebody
pipe
up,
matt.
E
G
C
A
C
Okay,
with
that,
the
motion
passes:
four,
yes
votes,
one
no
vote
and
I
guess
we'll
move
on.
B
Amy
brenda
said
that
she
was
trying
to
call
in,
but
she
wasn't
successful
in
trying
to
call
in
to
vote.
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record:
okay,
yeah,
okay,.
B
D
M
M
M
The
adu
would
be
approximately
428
square
feet
and
the
building
footprint
of
the
garage
would
be
approximately
577
square
feet.
The
adu
has
a
shed
roof,
measured
at
approximately
20
feet
in
height,
which
is
just
under
the
height
of
the
primary
structure.
The
setbacks
are
approximately
10
feet
from
both
the
rear
and
interior
side.
Lock,
property
lines
which
qualify
the
adu
to
be
above
the
typical
17
feet:
height
limit
pedestrian
access
goes
through
the
concrete
driveway
to
800
south,
which
is
shown
with
using
the
blue
arrow.
M
You
can
see
that
they're,
the
proposed
adu
in
comparison
to
the
primary
structure
and
the
adu
does
meet
the
setback
requirements
for
additional
height.
As
I
mentioned,
and
then
you
can
also
see
that
the
entrance
for
the
garage
faces
800
south,
while
the
stairs
for
the
adu
are
on
the
west
facade
of
the
structure
toward
the
alleyway,
and
this
slide
shows
the
site
photos
so
image.
One
is
a
view
of
the
primary
structure.
M
Image
two
is
the
area
of
the
rear
yard,
where
the
adu
is
proposed,
the
garage
shown
in
red
and
the
carport
would
be
demolished
and
then
image
three
is
the
alleyway
that
abuts
the
adu
in
the
garage
which
you
can
see
in
red
and
then
image.
Four
is
the
proposed
on-street
parking
area,
so
the
curb
cut
shown
at
the
top
of
the
image
is
the
curb
cut
for
the
driveway
to
the
garage
and
adu.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
chrissy.
Does
any
commissioners
have
questions
for
staff.
C
Yes,
we
can
dave
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
give
a
presentation.
You'll
have
10
minutes,
but
if
you
want
to
use
less
feel
free.
D
But
I
am
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
from.
C
Okay,
do
commissioners
have
any
questions
right
now
for
the
applicant?
We
can
always
ask
them
again
after
the
public
comment
as
well.
C
B
Don't
see
anyone,
however,.
J
J
I
think
this
is
a
great
site
for
nadu
just
been
looking
on
google
maps
here.
The
site
is
a
10-minute
walk
to
the
nearest
grocery
store,
which
is
the
smiths
about
the
two
blocks
of
the
east.
It's
got
great
biking,
access
with
the
north,
south
jordan
river
trail
and
then
just
a
little
bit
to
the
south
is
the
nine
one
running
east
and
west.
J
I
think
this
would
be
a
great
place
for
a
person
without
a
car
to
live,
depending
on
their
work
situation,
whether
or
not
they're
able
to
work
from
home
for
an
easy
bike
to
either
downtown
or
kind
of
central
cities.
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
my
whole
reasons
for
why
these
are
good.
That's
kind
of
you
guys
have
heard
that
a
million
times
for
me
already.
I
just
think
this
is
a
great
spot
for
it.
J
I
think
parking
into
the
number
one
issue
that
we
discussed
with
things
like
this,
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
area
where
you
rarely
have
to
use
your
car.
That's
it
thanks.
B
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
however,
and
there
are
no
emails.
Okay,.
C
Thank
you
all
right
with
that,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commissioners.
At
this
point,
any
discussion
for
staff
or
applicants.
C
C
D
G
D
E
G
D
C
Okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all.
We
will
move
on
now
to
our
third
agenda
item.
This
is
a
conditional
use
application
for
1781,
south
500
east
pln
pcm
2020-00939
for
another
adu
and
miara
is
presenting
on
this
one.
H
H
Okay,
so
this
requires
for
a
detached
adu
to
be
built
above
a
two
car
garage,
a
new
two-car
garage
at
1785,
south
500
east.
The
property
is
located
in
the
r1
5000
zoning
district
and
therefore
requires
a
conditional
use
approval.
The
proposed
adu
will
be
located
on
the
rear
of
the
property
near
the
alley.
H
H
The
proposed
adu
would
be
480
square
feet
in
footprint
and
will
contain
one
bedroom,
one
bathroom,
combined
kitchen
and
living
room.
The
structure
will
be
set
back,
10
feet
from
north
and
south
property
lines.
20
feet
from
the
east
property
line
parking
for
the
adu
is
proposed
on
site
on
a
parking
pad
located
north
of
the
structure.
H
H
H
These
other
photos
here
show
the
rear
from
the
out
as
seen
from
the
alley
and
then
the
alley
as
seen
from
wilson
avenue,
given
the
20-foot
rear
setback
proposed
for
the
adu,
the
structure
will
now
be
visible
from
wilson
avenue
as
well,
because
the
proposed
adu
meets
all
the
zoning
standards,
including
those
for
the
conditional
use
staff,
is
recommending
that
the
commission
approve
the
request
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report,
which
are
the
typical
conditions
we
imposed
on
adus.
H
C
Thanks
mariah,
just
commissioners
have
any
questions
for
her.
C
Did
somebody
speak
up?
Okay,
I
have
a
question
mara
and
one
of
the
comments
you
received
was
from
someone
in
the
public
asking
about
occupancy.
Did
you
reply
to
them?
C
H
Didn't
put
up
to
the
applicant
just
yesterday
or
the
day
before,
and
he
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
this
is
an
investment
property,
so
it
will
be
sold
with
the
condition
that
the
new
owner
would
have
to
occupy.
C
Okay,
I
just
wondered:
if
you
also
responded
to
that
community
member,
that
emailed
you,
I
didn't
identify
the
opportunity
too.
Sorry,
okay,
is
that
something
that
we
can
request.
You
do
after
the
vote
just
to
just
to
let
them
help
with
education
on
that
great
yeah,
okay,
but
there
are
no
other
questions
from
commissioners.
C
Okay,
okay
is
the
applicant
here
to
give
a
presentation.
C
Okay,
hello,
mr
rollins,
you
will
have
10
minutes
to
give
your
presentation
if
you
want
to
take
less,
feel
free,
but
the
time
is
now
yours,
okay,.
K
K
K
It
will
be
set
back
from
about
10
feet
from
the
north
and
the
south
side
and
20
feet
from
the
alleyway.
There
will
be
alleyway
access,
the
single
family
home.
There
will
be
two
two
park,
car
parks
in
the
garage,
and
then
the
adu
will
have
a
parking
space
to
the
north
of
the
adu,
so
there
will
be
no
off
street
parking.
K
I
mean
that's,
that's
pretty
much
about
yeah
and
and
as
as
mayara
eluded
that,
yes,
it
is
an
investment,
but
I
am
redeveloping
the
property
to
resell
it
and
we
have
filed
with
the
county
and
the
city
and
will
be
tied
to
title
saying
that
this
property
must
be
owner
occupied.
K
So
yeah
and
that's
that's
all.
I
have
to
present.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
rollins.
At
this
time
I
will
ask
if
there
are
any
commissioners
that
have
any
questions
for
you.
C
Okay
hearing
none,
I
will
move
to
open
the
public
hearing.
Michaela
is
anybody
present
from
the
community
council.
B
I
don't
see
anyone
present
from
the
community
council
and
I
only
see
one
hand
up
and
that's
zac
the
salt,
okay,
zach.
J
Hi,
exactly
speaking
in
favor
of
the
application,
I
think
this
use
case
kind
of
highlights
a
a
unique
thing
that
we
can
do
with
abuse
and
by
allowing
this
lot
to
redevelop,
we
have
two
dwelling
units
on
it.
Instead
of
one,
that's
gonna
increase
the
range
that
someone
who
might
be
looking
to
buy
this
house,
that's
going
to
kind
of
up
their
range
and
what
they
consider
affordable,
because
they'll
be
able
to
have
a
rental
unit
included.
J
So
I
know
this
isn't
really
what
we
see
with
adus,
but
I
think
this
highlights
another
way
that
they're,
very
useful
and
like
someone
might
not
be
able
to
afford
a
400
000
house
on
their
own,
but
if
they
had
a
renter
helping
substance
that
mortgage
they
could
afford
a
home
in
that
situation.
I
also
just
want
to
highlight
the
the
bus
service
on
500
units
with
the
30
minute
frequencies
on
north
south,
connecting
to
downtown
as
well
as
I've,
been
biking
through
these
streets.
J
There's
not
really
any
dedicated
bike
lanes,
but
usually
traffic
east
west
at
least
is
slow
enough.
Where
you
can
go
to
a
street
with
a
bike.
I
don't
really
think
I
have
anything
else
to
add.
Thanks.
B
Yes,
I
I'm
a
thorn
and
I
see
the
hand
coming
up
and
down
and
up
and
down
so
I'm
going
to
call
on
this
person,
I'm
not
sure
your
first
name.
Mr
mrs
thorne,
would
you
like
to
speak
to
this
item.
C
I
do
have
okay,
just
one
second,
if
you
could
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
please
proceed.
You'll
have
two
minutes
to
give
your
comments.
D
Okay,
michael
frank,
great
thank
you
and
I
lit.
I
live
on
fifth
east
in
in
the
block
where
this
this
proposal
used
to
be-
and
I
have
concerns
one
in
that
this
is
proposed
by
a
person
who
already
has
purchased
two
houses
within
this
block,
which
has
been
turned
into
to
rental
properties
and
then
he's
proposing
to
do
this
one
and
add
another
rental
property
on
there
and
sell
it,
which
he
has
no
sort
of
investment
than
in
in
that
block
himself.
I
feel
that
you
know
this.
D
B
I
did
not
have
anyone
else.
Let
me
check
and
wayne
said
that
no
no
emails
have
come
in
okay
with.
C
That,
then,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
I
will
bring
it
back
to
the
commissioners
to
ask
if
you
have
at
this
time,
questions
or
comments
to
staff
or
the
applicant.
C
Okay,
I
actually
do
my
ara
if
you
could
just
give
a
brief
rundown
for
the
benefit
of
mr
thorne.
The
conditional
use
occupancy
requirements
for
edus
and
then
how
that
then
transfers
to
say
a
new
owner.
H
So
that
will,
with
the
with
the
conditional
use
approval,
they
will
have
to
record
a
deed,
and
I
believe,
troy
rawlings
already
did
that
I'll
have
to
look
into
the
details
of
how
that
was
done,
but
the
the
deed
will
require
that
the
owner
must
occupy
one
of
the
units.
It
could
be
the
adu
or
the
house,
and
that
will
be
a
restriction
that
will
go
with
the
property,
no
matter
who
owns
it.
H
So,
although
the
applicant
is
not
intending
to
live
in
one
of
the
units,
once
it
is
completed,
the
owner
of
that
property
will
have
to
move
it
into
one.
One
of
the
units
he's
still
going
through
the
process
of
building
permanent
everything.
So
it's
okay
that
he
is
not
intending
to
live
in
one
of
the
units
as
as
of
now,
because
there
is
no
there's
no
structure
at
this
point.
C
Okay,
thank
you
myra,
commissioner,
is
anything
else
you
want
to
bring
up
around
all
right.
Then
I
would
entertain
a.
C
D
C
E
G
A
C
Okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
for
that
with
that,
we
actually
conclude
the
public
hearing
portion
of
tonight's
planning
commission
meeting
thanks
to
everyone
for
moving
that
along.
We
will
now
enter
a
work
session,
which
is
not
an
actual
public
hearing,
and
this
is
from,
I
believe,
planning
director
nick
norris,
the
planning
division,
annual
report.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Hopefully
everybody
can
see
the
screen.
Okay,
all
right,
we're
just
going
to
quickly
go
through.
L
Maybe
if
I
get
my
screen
to
advance
there,
we
go
just
some
of
the
basics
over
the
last
year,
some
things
that
you
guys
already
know
about,
but
some
things
that
maybe
you
don't
and
then
a
look
ahead
towards
the
next
year.
So
here's
some
some
stats
from
our
from
your
meetings.
L
One
of
the
really
interesting
things
I
think
about
2020
versus
2019
is
that
you
reviewed,
I
think
I
said
this
before,
like
42
more
agenda
items
in
2020,
but
your
meetings
were
about
30
minutes,
shorter,
well,
40
minutes
shorter,
which
is
kind
of
a
kind
of
an
interesting
phenomenon,
and
I
have
no
idea
if
that's
a
reflection
of
just
having
so
so
many
agenda
items
and
long
meetings
and
so
there's
a
tendency
to
move
through
them
quicker
or
if
it
has
something
to
do
with
having
more
virtual
meetings,
did.
E
L
L
Which
is,
I
think,
our
biggest
annual
number
we've
had.
So
that's
a
that's
a
pretty
significant
thing.
An
interesting
note
about
the
housing
units
is
that
when
you
guys
approve
them,
it'll
be
probably
two
to
three
years
before
those
come
online,
and
so
it's
it's
hard
to
recognize
the
immediate
benefit,
because
there
it's
delayed
several
years
and
then
those
units,
those
buildings
take
sometimes
months
to
actually
fill
up,
and
so
it's
not
an
immediate
or
quick
impact
to
the
housing
issues.
L
We're
facing
81
percent
of
all
of
the
housing
units
were
within
half
mile
of
transit,
the
biggest
one
that
was
outside
of
that
and
it's
not
fully
outside
of
it.
It
just
doesn't
have
great
transit
access
was
the
post
district
which
account
for
16
of
the
housing
units
approved.
L
L
To
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
planning
division
is
looking
at
and
looking
like
as
far
as
workloads,
our
total
applications
were
down
over
2019
2019
was
the
busiest
year
we've
ever
had
with
land
use
applications,
but
we're
we
were
pretty
much
on
par
with
our
10-year
average
of
applications,
so
that
was
actually
a
pretty.
L
I
think
we
anticipated
being
down
quite
a
bit
with
the
unknowing
what
the
pandemic
was
going
to
bring,
but
the
second
half
a
year
really
picked
up.
As
you
know,
by
the
length
of
your
meetings
and
everything,
you
saw
one
of
the
things
that's
kind
of
interesting
about
these.
These
numbers
are,
if
you
look
at
the
things
that
are
up
so
the
appeals.
L
Look
like
they're
up
a
lot,
that's
up
like
four
applications,
four
or
five
applications,
because
we
just
do
not
get
a
lot
of
appeals
filed
the
landmarks
commission
items
really
surprised
was
really
surprising
that
it
was
down
almost
23
percent
and
that's
because
we've
had
two
events
that
impacted
our
historic
districts,
pretty
significantly
and
damaged
properties
and
would
have
required
historic
approvals
to
that
was
the
earthquake
and
the
wind
event.
L
In
in
the
fall,
the
landmarks
commission
will,
in
terms
of
number
of
applications,
is
usually
our
highest
grouping
of
applications
that
we
get
most
of
those
are
approved
at
the
staff
level
and
most
of
those
are
done
at
the
planning
counter,
but
you
can
see
total
applications,
things
that
qual
that
fit
in
the
planning
commission
category.
Some
of
those
are
staff
approvals,
but
they're
up
23
subdivisions
were
up,
and
then
our
zoning
administration
was
up
as
well,
but
this
is
where
this
gets
a
little
bit.
Oh,
this
is
just
a
recap.
L
You
can
see
we're
over.
We
are
1.8
over
our
10-year
average.
So
basically
the
same.
This
is
where
those
applications
differ,
though,
is
the
amount
of
time
staff
time
it
takes
to
process.
So
these
are
the
estimated
hours
we
keep
track
every
couple
of
years
of
how
long
it
takes
to
proc
each
step
in
every
application
we
have
and
how
much
staff
time
is
is
spent
for
each
of
those
and
so
the
planning
commission,
even
though
it
represented,
I
think,
20.
L
Something
percent
of
our
total
applications
eats
up
almost
50
percent
of
our
time.
As
far
as
staff
time
goes,
and
you
can
see
it's
about
a
third
greater
than
the
landmarks
commission
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
other
things,
one
of
the
things
that
this
shows
is
so
our
staffing
levels
in
the
planning
division
are
basically
equal
to
the
staff
hours
it
takes
to
process
our
applications.
L
L
L
That
is
not
related
to
applications
that
eat
up
considerable
amount
of
our
time.
For
example,
right
now,
I'm
spending
probably
50
percent
of
my
working
hours,
dealing
with
state
legislature
and
issues
like
that
and
helping
the
city,
formulate
positions
and
and
trying
to
work
on
getting
bills
modified.
L
The
city
has
gotten
much
better
over
the
years
at
removing
silos
and
coordinating
on
projects
that
maybe
aren't
planning
related,
but
we
are
almost.
We
are
involved
in
almost
every
transportation
project,
almost
every
parks
project
and
almost
every
big
public
utilities,
type
of
thing
and
street
things.
So
those
are
things
that
people
don't
often
know
that
we're
we're
involved
in
because
we're
just
not
the
lead
agency
on
that.
L
L
That's
primarily
due
to
the
special
exception,
changes
that
you
guys
sent
on
to
the
city
council
late
last
year
and
it's
that's
dependent
on
when
those
get
and
if
they
get
adopted,
I
guess
but
we're
pretty
much
on
track
right
now,
about
the
same
as
last
year
as
far
as
applications,
we
have
a
number
of
big
projects
that
are
going
to
be
coming
through
the
planning
commission
and
some
of
these
you've
probably
heard
about
a
little
bit.
L
Some
are
more,
have
already
submitted
applications
and
some
haven't,
but
obviously
we
have
the
utah
theater
site,
which
has
been
in
the
news
quite
a
bit
and
is
fairly
controversial
for
because
it
includes
the
demolition
of
the
old
utah
theater,
the
pantages
theater
there's
a
potential
large
project
on
the
northeast
corner
of
300,
south
and
200
east.
L
L
Lamplighter
square
on
foothill
is
likely
to
be
submitted
this
this
sometime
this
calendar
year
as
well.
The
snell
grove
site
on
2100
south
is
already
submitted.
We've
got
a
number
of
projects
that
are
brewing
in
the
granary
depot
and
the
north
temple
areas,
so
lots
of
big
projects
coming
through.
L
And
the
mayor
a
couple
weeks
ago,
announced
her
or
released
her
goals
for
2021.
Some
of
these
are
carried
over
from
2020
that
we
couldn't
get
to
due
to
having
to
shift
resources
to
respond
to
the
pandemic
and
just
complications
related
to
that
and
our
other
natural
disasters
that
that
we
had
to
face
as
a
city,
but
we
have
two
that
are
un
underway,
so
the
north
point
small
area
plan.
L
This
is
the
2200
west
corridor,
north
of
the
airport,
where
there's
a
number
of
annexations
that
have
been
proposed
over
the
years
and
it's
becoming
a
little
bit
of
a
hot
point
in
terms
of
controversy
and
disagreement
with
the
city
and
some
of
the
neighboring
jurisdictions
and
the
community.
So
the
city
council
funded
a
small
area
plan
for
that.
That's
out
for
rfp
right
now.
It
closes
I
think
next
week
and
then
once
we
get
a
consultant
on
board
that
will
that
will
be
start
going
through
that
process.
L
L
That's
everything
from
the
granary
on
the
on
the
south,
up
through
the
gateway,
central
business
district
and
basically
everything
west
of
200
east
and
to
I-15
and
from
north
temple
to
900
south,
so
that
that,
if
we
get
that
grant
we'll
know,
I
think
in
march
whether
we
do
because
that
funding
source
doesn't
get
released
until
july
1st.
It
will
it'll
start
the
second
half
of
this
year.
L
One
of
the
mayor's
goals
relates
to
tech
related
land
uses.
Our
land
use.
Definitions
are
pretty
archaic
when
it
comes
to
these
types
of
uses
and
they're
very
limited
and
where,
where
they
can
go,
and
so
we'll
be
working
on
some
text,
amendments
adding
definitions
and
adding
those
uses
to
various
zoning
districts
throughout
the
city,
not
just
in
right
now,
it's
primarily
in
industrial
areas
and
business
parks,
but
we
want
to
bring
those
things
more
to
the
downtown
sugar
house
etc.
L
A
couple
of
the
big
projects
that
we're
really
hoping
that
we
have
resources
to
get
to
this
year.
I
know
that
they're
they're
related
to
some
of
the
mayor's
really
important
priorities
around
the
ballpark
includes
the
300
west
corridor
and
adopting
the
life
on
state
plan.
That
was
done.
I
think
it
was
finished.
Maybe
two
years
ago
now,
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
then
we
just
haven't
had
a
chance
to
adopt
it,
but
associated
zoning
changes
along
the
state
street
main
street
corridors
south
of
downtown.
L
The
300
west
project
would
correspond
with
the
rebuild
of
that
street
if
you
haven't,
if
you
haven't
heard
about
what's
happening
on
300
west
from
2100
south
to
about
900
south
complete
rebuild
of
the
street,
adding
a
two-way
bike,
lane
wider
sidewalks
sidewalks,
where
they're
missing
street
trees
and
a
transformation.
So
we
want
to
capitalize
on
that
work
and
this
and
update
the
the
master
plan
and
the
zoning
for
that
area.
And
I
know
that
was
something
that
the
planning
commission
brought
up
a
few
meetings
ago
as
well.
L
So
between
that
and
the
life
on
state,
there's
going
to
be
a
heavy
focus
around
that
the
ballpark
track
station,
as
well
as
the
2100
itself
track
station
and
then
in
about.
Hopefully,
in
about
a
month
we'll
be
if
things
stay
as
as
they
are
going
and
we
don't
have
any
unforeseen
circumstances,
the
affordable
housing
overlay
proposal
will
be
released
with
some
options
on
how
that
works.
We
are
looking
at
it
a
city-wide
type
of
overlay,
so
we
anticipate
a
fairly
high
level
of
controversy
with
that.
L
We
still
have
a
number
of
things
sitting
in
front
of
the
city
council
that
you
guys
have
looked
at.
Some
of
these
are
are
picking
up
a
little
steam.
Some
of
them
have
had
multiple
briefings
and
hopefully,
we'll
will
get
moving.
Some
of
them
are
kind
of
on
hold
a
little
bit
pending.
Some
potential
legislation
at
the
state
is
considering
right
now
and
so
we're
kind
of
holding
and
waiting
and
seeing
on
some
of
those,
the
housing
related
ones.
L
The
rmf
30,
the
shared
housing
are
probably
they're
tentatively
scheduled
to
to
be
picked
back
up
again
this
spring,
the
biggest
thing
that
those
are
waiting
for,
at
least
with
the
rmf
30,
is
the
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance,
which
has
been
kind
of
stalled
and
we're
we're
hoping
to
to
revive
that
over
the
next
this
year
as
well.
The
planning
division
is
not
going
to
be
the
lead
on
that,
but
we'll
be
heavily
involved.
L
The
parking
ordinance
the
council
has
it
on
their
briefing
agenda
for
next
tuesday,
so
that
will
will
start
that
discussion
as
well-
and
I
think
you
all
are
fairly
familiar
with
with
that
ordinance.
Even
though
it's
been
over
a
year
since
you
saw
it,
it
basically
changes
how
the
city
regulates
parking,
so,
instead
of
going
how
it
is
now
where
it's
all
uses,
regardless
of
where
it
is
it's
more
of
a
district
based
type
of
type
of
approach
that
has
other
modes
of
transportation
increase
in
the
city,
it
helps
us
potentially.
D
L
And
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
really
want
that
zone
to
be
an
option
for
us
and
if
it's
adopted
it
just
makes
it
easier.
The
sugar
house
design
standards
are
kind
of
pending
waiting
for
the
state
legislature.
There's
a
bill
at
the
legislature
right
now
that
basically
would
strip
and
prohibit
cities
from
regulating
certain
building
design
elements,
and
so
we're
we're
working
on
on
the
legislature
to
try
to
get
that
changed
a
little
bit
and
hopefully
we'll
we
make
some
progress
on
that.
L
I
don't
want
to
say
too
much
because
just
because
it's
a
negotiation-
and
you
know
we're
heavily
involved
with
that
bill-
so
one
thing
that
that
we
want
to
focus
on
more
this
year
and
something
that
the
planning
commission
has
requested
over
the
year
and
it's
likely
impossible
that
there
may
be
some
required
training
for
planning
commissions
put
into
state
law.
And
so
we
wanted
to
get
your
input
on
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
now
on
what
types
of
training
topics
you
want.
L
That
will
make
help
you
guys
through
your
decision
making
process.
We
know
there's
a
number
of
things
where
we
can
walk
you
through
the
through
some
of
the
legalities
of
some
of
our
processes.
We
can
refresh
you
on
some
of
the
processes
and
what
happens
on
what
some
of
our
land
use
regulations
are
some
of
the
development
issues
we've
been
we're
facing.
L
So
so
you
guys
are
more
in
tune
to
those
types
of
things,
but
we
also
want
to
be
flexible
so
that
if
there
is
a
requirement
in
state
law
for
more
than
just
the
open
meetings,
act
and
conflict
of
interest,
and
things
like
that
that
we
we
can
work
those
things
into,
and
I
think
it's
I
think
if
it.
I
can't
remember
where
this,
where
this,
what
build
this
is
in
it's
kind.
D
L
Buried
but
it
may
be
something
where
each
planning,
commissioner,
has
to
have
like
four
or
five
hours
of
training
a
year,
so
we'll
have
to
work
that
in,
and
that
includes,
I
think
there
was
something
that
said
like
you
have
to
participate
in
the
open
meetings
act
training
before
you
can
actually
attend
and
participate
in
a
commission
meeting
things
like
that,
so
we're
open
to
any
ideas
that
you
may
have
on
that.
I
think
that
was
my
end
of
my
presentation.
L
It
was
quick
one
thing
that
I
do
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
working
on
and
trying
to
fit
trying
to
work
our
time
finding
time
to
do
it
is
some
sort.
L
I
mean
this
was
commissioner
berry's
recommendation
or
ask
of
us
to
put
together
kind
of
a
a
self-guided,
whether
it's
virtual
or
something
you
can
see
on
the
ground,
a
self-guided
tour
of
past
approvals
to
see
how
they
how
they
compare
to
what
what
they
looked
like
when
they
came
to
the
commission
and
how
they
turn
out,
and
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
see
some
lessons
learned
and
go
from
there
plus
it's
interesting
just
to
see
how
things
are
happening.
L
So
many
things
are
happening
throughout
the
city
that
it
you
don't
always
get
to
get
to
visit
all
parts
of
the
city,
so
you
may
miss
out
on
some
of
those
some
of
those
things
both
big
and
small.
So
that
is
all
I
had.
Oh
one
thing
I
did
want
to
announce
and
I
don't
think
it
happened
earlier,
but
so
mayara
is
actually
leaving
the
planning
division
to
take
a.
L
She
is
moving
over
to
building
services,
to
help
kind
of
be
an
ombudsman
for
people
who
are
kind
of
stuck
in
the
process
to
help
move
them
through
and
get
all
of
the
people,
various
city
departments
and
divisions
to
communicate.
When
there's
a
breakdown
and
to
get
things
moving
quicker,
so
we're
sad
to
to
leave
her
but
she's
going
to
be
absolutely
fan
fantastic
in
that
role
and
that's
it
any
questions.
C
Nick,
I
do
would
you
once
the
legislature
is
over?
Can
we
get
one
of
these
type
of
presentations
on
what
happened
in
this
last
session?
That
affects
us
like.
C
C
You
know
that
really
spell
out
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
that
it
takes
so
long
to
to
figure
out
on
your
own
as
you
muddle
through.
So
I
think
one
of
the
trainings
could
be
just
a
basic
101
and
then
that
every
every
new
commissioner
needs
to
needs
to
go
through
and
because
I
don't
think
we
can
assume
that
we
all
come
in
with
the
same
amount
of
knowledge
by
any
means
and
then
yeah
any
of
those
other
trainings.
C
C
Can
yeah
and
I
think
not
only
a
breakdown
of
kind
of
the
legalities
of
the
standards
of
like
how
you
have
to
I
what
what
you
look
at
for
your
criteria,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
remember
just
I
didn't
realize,
or
I
was
really
shocked
that
I
hadn't
realized
this
before
was
the
you
know.
C
What
are
the
legal
parameters
for
the
stuff
that
we
talked
about,
the
conditional
use
being
like
the
biggest
one
that
really
shocked
me,
because
I
think
when
I
was
really
involved
in
community
stuff,
obviously,
for
a
decade
before
this,
the
focus
for
communities
is
all
master
plan
master
plan
and
then
that,
as
a
commissioner
is
not
the
focus
it's
there
and
it's
this
overarching
guide.
But
then
there's
all
these
other
things
that
I
never
realized
were
how
you
had
to
base
your
decisions.
C
So
I
think
that
that's
something
that
really
has
continued
to
stick
with
me
and
I
probably
took
me
one
to
two
years
to
really
work
through.
All
of
that
and
a
good
101
could
maybe
jumpstart
and
lessen
that
two-year
time
frame
of
feeling,
like
you're
still
trying
to
figure
it
all
out.
C
I'm
sure,
if
you
have
ideas
on
trainings
that
he
will
welcome
them
via
email
at
any
time
or
anything
else.
Based
on
the
presentation
crystal
you
have
something
yeah,
it's
probably.
L
You
can,
they
are
all
on
our
website,
slc,
slcgov.com
planning
and
then
there's
a
more
info
button
and
there's
a
whole
master
plan
page
that
lists
all
of
them
from
the
community
plans
down
to
the
small
area
plans,
there's
a
lot
of
them.
So
you
know.
C
Okay,
with
that,
I
am
going
to
adjourn
our
meeting
thanks.
Everyone.