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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners August 12, 2019
Description
Budget Work Session
A
A
B
B
A
Well,
good
evening,
everyone
and
I
like
to
remind
to
everyone
that
the
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
study
issues
together
and
analyze
information
to
clarify
questions,
no
notes.
No
votes
were
conducted
during
the
work
session.
No
public
comments
will
be
allowed
tonight
on
the
budget
and,
however,
it
will
be
allowed
during
the
two
public
hearings
that
we
have
scheduled
for
Wednesday
September,
4th
2019
and
Tuesday
September
17
2019
at
6:30
p.m.
A
At
the
less
budget
work
session,
which
was
on
July,
16,
2009
teen
would
discuss
the
general
fund
and
the
enterprise
funds
will
tonight
we'll
be
discussing
the
CI,
a
P,
the
budget,
the
cre
budget,
salaries
and
classification
plan
and
any
follow-ups
that
we
have
from
July
16th
or
obsession
and
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
a
mr.
Lucas
and
run
for
the
presentation.
A
D
D
Summary
of
all
the
CIP
programs
in
the
2020
budget
and
highlighted
in
the
bottom
is
the
capital
outlay
pages
on
1:15
to
1:16,
where
it
has
all
the
capital
outlay,
and
in
case
you
I,
give
you
all
handouts
there
in
case
you
can't
see
the
presentation
or
you
haven't
trouble
with
the
book
here
at
I,
saw
I
got
presentation.
I
got
copies
of
the
presentations
for
all
you
there
in
case
you
need
it,
but.
D
The
proposed
budget
for
2020
for
the
CIP
is
eleven
point:
two
million
the
projected
budget
for
the
five-year
program
for
2020
to
2024
is
thirty
four
point:
five
million
and
the
CIP
is
based
on
larger
projects
and
the
funds
that
are
involved.
Capital
outlay
is
mostly
for
the
smaller
equipment
over
a
thousand
dollars
in
life
in
excess
of
two
years.
The
total
capital
outlay
is
eight
hundred
forty
five
thousand
to
twenty
one
and
just
a
slide
graphically
to
show
for
fiscal
year.
D
D
This
slide
is
showing
the
five-year
CIP.
The
thirty
four
point,
five
million
and
I
say
the
majority
is
physical
environment,
a
twenty
seven
million
funded
by
water
and
sewer
and
stormwater
funds.
The
balanced
public
safety
culture,
recreation
transportation
is
mostly
amount
of
funded
by
the
penny
fund
and
trying
to
go
to
those
pages.
Eighty
nine
there
in
your
executive
summary
this
is
these
slides
are
gonna
list.
D
All
those
projects
on
their
starting
based
bike,
public
safety
and
we
got
police
vehicles,
four
hundred
eight
thousand
fire
staff
vehicles,
sixty
thousand
Public
Safety
Building
gates,
thirty
thousand
ladder
truck
lease
payment.
Two
hundred
thirty
nine
thousand
four
total
public
safety
of
seven
hundred
thirty,
eight
thousand
three.
Eighty
five
transportation
related
projects,
brick
Street
and
Road
reconstruction.
Three
hundred
fifty
thousand
Sponge
Docks
seawall
engineering,
150,000
Hibiscus,
Road,
stormwater
improvement.
120,000
extend
Pinellas
Trail
at
North,
&,
quot,
271,000
309
for
total
transportation
of
eight
hundred
ninety
one
thousand
309
continuing
on.
We
got
culture
and
recreation.
D
The
exercise
park
to
pickleball
courts
to
shuffleboard
courts
for
a
total
90,000
between
the
two
recreation
center
we've
got:
roof
replacement,
restroom
entryway
new
floor
for
a
total
of
thirty
thousand
Community
Center
roof
and
windows
for
fifty
thousand
for
a
total
cultural
recreation
of
one
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
and
then
getting
in
a
physical
environment.
We've
got
stormwater
the
big
pent
gross
stormwater
project
of
almost
3.2
million
and
as
notated
below
the
Swift
mud,
grant
funding
an
amount
of
1
million.
D
Three
hundred
sixty-eight
thousand
four
hundred
will
help
cover
that
project:
more
physical
environment,
water
and
sewer
reclaimed.
We
got
Seabreeze
Drive
construction,
1.4
million
future
raw
water
wells,
1.4
million
Becket,
Bridge
utilities,
eight
hundred
thirty
four
thousand,
and
then
we
got
the
water
pipe
valve
replacement
program.
D
D
Recreation,
5,000
library,
8400
roads
and
streets
2800
for
total
general
fund.
That's
coming
out
of
unassigned
fund
balance,
three
hundred
thirty
four
thousand,
and
then
we
got
items
coming
out.
A
restricted
fund,
cemetery,
perpetual
care.
We've
got
seventy
six
thousand
from
the
library
donations.
We
got
twelve
thousand
for
total
coming
out
of
restricted
general
funds.
Eighty
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
for
a
total
general
fund
capital
outlay
of
four
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
seven
twenty
one.
D
Going
onto
the
special
revenue
phone
we've
got:
SWAT
equipment,
ten
thousand
public
art
projects
to
be
determined
hundred
thousand
future
approved
land
purchase.
Forty
eight
thousand
for
total
special
revenue
funds,
158,000
148
thousand
sorry,
sanitation
fund.
We've
got
a
solid
waste
for
a
sanitation
total
of
one
hundred
and
fifty
one
thousand
and
then
getting
into
water
and
sewer
we
got
itg
is
fifteen
thousand
collection
Center.
D
Then
we
got
some
stuff
this
in
the
general
fund.
That
was
a
cut
from
the
general
fund.
We
have
the
building
development
180
earning
thirty,
eight
thousand.
We
had
police,
we
had
twenty
four
thousand
I
won't
go
through
all
the
items
there
and
facility
maintenance.
We
had
two
hundred.
Seventy
four
thousand
of
items
cut
out
of
the
budget.
D
Recreation,
we
had
a
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
total
cut
out
parks,
one
hundred
eighty,
seven
thousand
six
hundred
roads
and
streets.
Eighty-Five
thousand
four
and
total
capital
requests
cut
from
a
general
fund
budget
of
840
3600
and
that's
basically
the
end.
I
just
put
the
timetable
on
the
dates
for
the
rest
of
the
year
here.
So
I'm
opening
up
for
discussion.
C
And
again,
I
try
to
let
other
people
do
the
talking,
because
I
don't
know
how
long
my
voice
is
gonna
last,
but
there's
two
sheets
of
paper
here
that
are
separate.
I
keep
my
your
left
hand,
side
the
proposed
budget
general
fund
and
proposed
budget
items
unfunded.
These
are
important
as
we
go
through
most
of
the
night.
The
one-page
is
that
money
that
I
said
that
you
have
that
hasn't
been
allocated,
that
your
individual
projects
can
be
used.
The
other
one
is
the
things
that
are
not
funded.
C
So
when
you
bring
up
when
you
bring
up
things
that
you
want
to
add
to
the
budget,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
you
look
that
those
things
was
unfunded
to
make
sure
there's
not
anything
on
that
list.
They
may
have
a
priority
when
you
do
it.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
to
keep
those
aside.
We
did
those
separates
because
that's
kind
of
the
worksheet
tonight
as
we
start
adding
and
subtracting
to
the
budget.
Those
are
two
important
they're,
two
singular
pieces
of
paper.
C
One
is
two
pages
and
one
as
one
should
be
on
your
diets.
Just
keep
keep
those
as
they
do
the
presentations,
because
we
will
be
using
those
throughout
the
night.
As
we
talk
about
things
we
may
want
to
add
or
may
want
to
delete
to
the
budget
and
how
much
money
we
have
to
put
additional
things
that
this
Commission
may
want
to
put
in
there.
C
A
E
E
Same
for
that,
we
also
discussed
the
the
V
CIP
budget.
You
know
as
it
relates
to
police,
and
we
feel
that
with
the
current
age
of
vehicles
that
are
that
are
that
are
that
are
that
are
the
bet
are
being
replaced
that
it's
worthwhile
to
go
ahead
and
use
those
funds
that
he
has
requested.
You
know
you
know
you
know
for
that,
because
delaying
that
which
is
widget,
which
is
cost
more
in
the
long
run.
So
that
was
a
little
doubt.
That
was
the
only
what
you
know.
A
E
E
Know
we've,
you
know
reviewed
all
parts
of
the
budget.
By
now
we
did.
We
did
review
the
sidewalk
Improvement
Fund.
There
wasn't
a
resolution
from
it,
but
on
I
serve
on
two
boards
and
I
think
when
boards
going
one
way
and
the
other
is
going
the
a
bit,
though,
though,
the
other
way,
but
this
board
that
I'd
share
there
was
a
consensus
at
least
I,
guess
that
they
are
in
support
of
the
sidewalk
Improvement
Fund.
You
know
you
know,
you
know,
as
is
now.
A
E
F
Good
evening
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
be
on
that
board
and
coming
from
the
corporate
environment.
As
soon
as
I
saw
a
big
overtime,
number
I
thought:
let's
go
for
it.
I
believe
is
his
chief
of
police
presenting
tonight.
He
did
a
crystal
clear
explanation
of
it
and
I
walked
away.
This
is
this
is
being
managed.
Well,
so
I
hope
you
I
know
he'll
do
a
good
job
tonight
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
on
the
board.
Thank.
A
A
A
E
E
A
A
A
A
G
H
G
G
You
know
way
back
when,
and
you
know
you
always
look
to
improve
and
I've
been
with
the
police
department
over
30
years,
so
we
never
had
enough
vehicles
to
adequately
run
the
police
department.
We
had
vehicles
that
hundreds
of
thousands
of
miles
on
them.
You
have
to
wait
for
other
vehicles
to
come
in.
There
were
many
times
myself
had
to
take
vehicles
out
to
an
off-duty,
your
own
vehicle,
to
cover
one
of
the
ancillary
intersections
because
there
weren't
a
tow
vehicle.
So
we
have
a
modern
fleet
that
meets
our
needs.
G
We
went
from
cars
lasting
a
year
and
a
half
the
cars
at
now.
Last
seven,
eight
years.
If
you
look,
we
have
a
lot
of
high
water
vehicles.
We
have
pickup
trucks
now
that
we
use
for
code
enforcement
and
other
aspects,
so
our
fleet
is
very
modern,
which
is
what
you
need,
compare
them
to
other
agencies,
people
look
for
that
they
get
hired.
You
know
now
the
officers
are
getting
seven
eight
years
out
of
a
vehicle,
they
take
better
care
of
them.
G
G
G
We
got
one
car
that
burnt
up
our
DEA
car
burnt
up.
It
was
an
electrical
fire,
so
we
have
to
replace
that
we
have
one
car
that
has
125
thousand
miles
on
it,
another
one
well
over
a
hundred
thousand
miles
on
it
and
then
what
we
look
at
is
we
look
at
cost
of
maintenance,
so
we
have
some
vehicles
that
we
need
to
replace
out
because
they're
just
starting
to
cost
us
a
lot
of
money
and
maintenance.
So
to
delay
this.
G
You
got
to
remember
when
we
alter
the
cars
it
still
takes
six
months
to
get
in
and
get
on
the
road.
So
you'll
put
me
behind
two
years
in
a
fleet
that
needs
to
be
replenished
like
that.
To
keep
on
you
know,
keep
these
vehicles
going,
keep
them
going
for
seven
eight
years.
You
know
we
get
a
lot
of
longevity
out
of
these
cars
and
in
the
long
run
you
have
a
modern
fleet
that
saves
money.
I
I
G
I
G
It's
either
we
it's
either.
We
spend
more
in
maintenance
and
fall
behind
in
the
fleet.
By
not
doing
this
or
we
do
this,
we
keep
the
fleet
going.
We
keep
the
vehicles
modern,
we
keep
less
maintenance
towers
going,
we
keep
vehicles
from
getting
old.
Did
you
remember?
I
got
vehicles
coming
up
behind
this,
that
are
seven,
eight
years
old
and
that's
a
long
time
we
single
year
and
a
half
out
of
vehicles.
I
G
Absolutely
the
way
you
run
this
flea
is
called
the
hybrid
Indian
plan.
You
see
the
SOS
doing
it,
while
the
cities
are
doing
it
now.
This
is
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
staff
your
Police
Department
with
a
modern
fleet
high
water
vehicles,
vehicles
that
meet
our
needs
vehicles
that
you
know,
especially
the
Tahoe's
they're
phenomenal
police
vehicles.
The
maintenance
on
these
things
is
not
near
what
it
was
on.
The
charges.
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
J
A
quick
question
you
touched
on
this
I
remember
last
year
about
replacing
fire
vehicles
for
the
staff
every
year,
so
about
60,000
for
the
deputy
chief
or
Chiefs
vehicle
or-
and
you
kind
of
touched
on
this
one
just
briefly,
so
this
vehicle
it's
being
replaced
this
year,
it
really
has
no
outfit
to
it.
It's
just
more
for
it.
B
J
B
This
vehicle
comes
with
the
police
that
we've
been
going
with
the
same
reason
that
chief
coach
and
mentioned
we're
getting
a
good
quality
car
this
way
and
it
fits
the
needs
of
the
department,
the
smaller
cars
I,
don't
believe,
have
the
police
package
that
we
look
for.
So
that's
why
we
kind
of
looking
at
this.
We
may
try
to
do
something
a
little
different
once
we
get
closer
to
ordering
it,
but
we're
looking
at
that
option
now.
So.
J
Don't
take
this
the
wrong
way,
please
no
I
mean
why,
couldn't
you
drive
a
Prius
if
this
is
just
someone
driving
around
to
look
at
and
you've
got
zero
gas
usage
on
it?
You've
just
driving
around
the
businesses
making
sure
inspections
are
good,
not
going
off-roading
with
it
for
any
fires
or
anything
along
those
lines.
J
So
in
that
aspect,
I
think
that
would
almost
be
more
prudent
in
this
type
of
position,
although
it's
not
as
cool
of
a
vehicle
to
drive
but
I,
think
it's
more
prudent
on
how
you
spend
your
money,
because
we're
also
I
mean,
as
a
commission
that's
shown
in
the
past,
there's
really
been
no
nothing
held
back
for
the
fire
department
for
vehicles
and
things
along
those
lines.
But
if
it's
a
vehicle,
it
doesn't
really
need
to
be
used
as
a
fire
vehicle,
it's
more
of
a
transportation
vehicle
and
then
some
it.
B
The
other
thing
you
have
to
think
about
our
vehicles
are
also
used
for
emergency
management.
So
a
Prius
is
not
going
to
do
very
well
during
a
hurricane
when
we
have
to
get
around
town
to
get
through
things,
either
some
high
water
over
debris
and
stuff,
like
that
I'm
afraid
the
Prius
by
wouldn't
last
very
long
so.
B
J
C
B
K
B
A
D
That's
what
it's
part
of
our
annual
program
of
the
brick
Street
and
rope
reconstruction
part
of
the
money
is
funded
out
of
the
penny
fund.
The
other
part
is
funded
out
of
the
capital
project
fund,
and
this
year,
like
I,
say
it
totals
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
for
the
brick
Street
and
Road
reconstruction
program.
I
First,
Ron
just
to
go
back
a
couple.
Steps
in
terms
of
the
vehicles
and
I
know
that
this
is
a
question
that
gets
asked
probably
every
year
as
it
relates
to
not
only
the
sale
of
police
vehicles
but
other
equipment
that
we,
you
know
no
longer
have
a
neat
board
and
then
pull
sale
out.
Can
you
just
give
a
brief
explanation
as
to
you
know
when
the
seven
or
eight
police
vehicles
are
sold,
that
we're
replacing?
Where
that
money
then
goes?
You.
I
And
then
something
else
that's
been
asked
in
the
past
says
for
the
Commission
to
possibly
see
some
form
of
a
sale
left
or
excuse
me
a
sale
list
when
we
sit
when
we
have
these,
like
during
budget
cycle
like
for
2019,
how
much
money
is?
Did
we
recoup
in
vehicles
that
we
sold
or
equipment
that
we
sold
or
generators
or
whatever
the
heavy
equipment?
I?
Think
that's
productive
for
us
to
see?
As
we
sit
up
here
and
say,
okay,
we're
gonna,
spend
this
every
year
and
we're
gonna
spend
every
year.
I
I
And
then,
on
the
transportation
side
of
the
CIP,
the
Hibiscus
Road
and
stormwater
Improvement
I
went
into
the
page
109
of
the
executive
summary
for
the
penny
fund.
I
guess
I'm
curious,
while
we're
spending
that
money
out
of
the
any
fun
and
while
we're
not
spending
it
out
of
like
the
roadway
or
the
water
or
the.
I
D
For
one,
the
stormwater
fund
is
pretty
much.
The
pent
gross
project
is
taking
a
good
part
of
all.
The
funding
of
a
look
at
will
be
available
for
that
project,
but
so
that's
why
we've
moved
it
to
the
penny
fund
for
that,
if
there
is
any
water
portion,
we
could
charge
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
water
and
sewer
portion
and
it.
L
I
I
D
I
So
that
probably
wouldn't
be
until
whenever
that
projects
completed
correct
okay,
so
what
I'm?
Basically,
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
I,
just
don't
I,
don't
like
having
to
spend
any
money
for
projects
or
work
that
there's
other
avenues
for
us
to
fund
those
types
of
projects.
So
that's
why
I
asked
about
the
Hibiscus
Road
and
stormwater
improvement
I
mean.
Ideally,
if
it's
me
I'd
like
to
try
and
find,
and
could
you
elaborate
on
that
project
a
little
bit
or
somebody
I,
probably.
M
Good
evening,
yeah,
that's
a
project
that
actually
sits
in
the
intersection
of
hibiscus
and
Pine
Street,
there's
a
conflict
with
some
water,
I'm,
sorry,
sanitary
sewer.
We
found
out
over
time
at
that
line
and
actually
the
roadway
out
hibiscus
floods
right
behind
the
the
Greek
Center.
We
found
that
this
area,
where
there
was
a
blockage,
a
pipe
that
actually
went
through
a
storm
water
saying
the
system
was
interfering
with
those
flows,
so
we're
gonna,
replace
we're
gonna
put
a
conflict
box
inside
the
intersection.
At
the
same
time,
we're
gonna
rebuild
part
of
hibiscus
tree.
M
On
the
corner
of
we
do,
but
that's
basin
itself
is
actually
a
little
bit
lower
than
that.
That's
that
pond
you
couldn't
get
to
flow
over
there,
so
the
actually
runs
down
hibiscus
across
Pine,
Street
I,
dad
hibiscus
and
ties
into
a
storm
system
that
goes
out
to
with
the
exercise
park
is
but
there's
a
conflict
in
the
middle
of
Pine
Street
that
has
to
be
opened
up
and
a
conflict
has
to
be
put
in
there,
but
you
can't
move
the
sanitary
sewer
system,
so
you
had
to
put
a
conflict
box
in
that
section.
M
M
M
I
I
M
A
M
I
H
I
M
A
J
They're,
looking
at
the
projected
stormwater
fund
at
the
end
of
the
year
after
the
Penn,
Street
project,
etc,
there's
a
projective
284,000
and
if
I'm
correct
this
project
in
hibiscus
is
only
120
and
change.
So
I
mean
it'd,
be
as
simple
just
to
move
that
over.
If
we're
projecting
a
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year.
M
C
H
J
D
I
D
Out
of
the
two
hundred
eighty
four
thousand
there
that's
left
funded
out
there.
We
have
a
fund
balance
Paul
see
if
we
go
much
lower,
we're
gonna
we're
going
to
be
below
our
fund
balance
policy,
the
twenty
five
percent
and
a
stormwater
fund,
so
I
mean
yes,
there
is
two
hundred
eighty
four
thousand
you,
but
you
might
be
and
be
in
violation
of
a
fund
balance
policy.
D
J
J
H
J
D
M
M
H
J
But
then,
if
you
look
at
like
the
penny
funds
and
all
the
other
unfunded
items
that
were
looking
at
here
from
like
Cultural
Center
needing
exterior
painting,
Heritage,
Museum
and
Safford
house
painting
I
mean
these
are
all
things
that
it
would
deteriorate
over
time,
right,
renourishment
of
Sunset
Beach
and
we
can
go
into
more
details,
but
there's
a
plenty
of
penny
funds
that
could
be
allocated
right
now.
For
some
of
these
other
items
and
they'll
get
me
wrong.
I
To
me,
penny
money
is
just
almost
free
money
to
do
good
things
with
and
if
we
have
an
account
that
we
can
spend
infrastructure
money
out
of
you
know,
perform
water,
that's
what
I'd
rather
do.
Even
if
the
you
know
resorts
they're,
just
partial
funding
of
it
out
of
the
balance
money
that
that's
remaining,
but
you
know
I,
don't
think
we
should
continue
to
just
eat
up
our
penny
money
with
projects
that
can
be
funded
elsewhere
or
slightly
delayed.
And
then
it's
alright
mayor
I'll
go
into
the
extension
of
the
Pinellas
Trail
as
well.
A
I
C
Goes
way
back,
we'll
tell
the
story
of
the
Ron.
Will
you
tell
the
story
of
our
of
our
trail
fund
or
Bob
Roberson
want
to
come
up
and
we've
already
committed
to
do
this.
We've
been
it's
been
in
our
budget
for
five
years
to
do
or
for
years
because
of
an
eagle
block.
This
is
already
a
sign
commitment
of
the
city.
To
do
this.
I
K
K
So
a
short
version
is
this:
section
of
trail
is
being
used
right
now
to
buy
the
RO
facility.
We
have
for
water
production
wells
and
in
that
corridor,
and
we
have
the
pipelines
that
connect
it
and
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
that,
we
had
to
because
we
purchased
that
land
with
a
state
grant.
We
had
to
reimburse
the
state
and
in
an
agreement,
agreed
to
extend
the
trail
through
there
when
the
funding
was
available.
Funding
is
available
as
part
of
the
penny.
K
I
K
A
pecker
stretch
is
about
1700
feet
and
it's.
This
is
connecting
where
the
trail
currently
ends
at
at
the
North
anklet
Nature
Park
and
we'll
bring
it
all
the
way
up
to
include
Boulevard,
not
ankle,
Road
and
that
will
tie
in
where
Pasco
is
bringing
their
north
coastal
trail
in
so
this
is.
This
is
an
integral
piece
to
connect
the
Pinellas
Trail
to
Pascoe's
new
trail,
which
just
now
went
under
construction.
So.
K
I
K
A
I
C
D
D
I
D
I
D
I
H
D
D
I
A
I
N
No
I
agree
I
feel
like
the
Hibiscus
Road
stormwater
is
necessary.
We
shouldn't
wait
on
that.
So,
however,
we
can
fund
that
and
also
the
extension
of
the
trail
we've
been
talking
about
that
so
many
years
and
and
people
are
waiting
for
it
and
and
wanting
it
completed.
So
if
we
can
get
some
funding
just
without
just
having
to
use
up
any
funds,
that
would
be
great
so.
A
C
C
J
I
mean
it's,
this
part
of
the
$350,000
it's
assigned
to
brick
and
road
reconstruction
is
obviously
one
of
the
more
important
projects.
I
know,
all
the
projects
are
important
across
the
city,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you
hear
the
most
is
one
of
them:
I
rode
gonna,
be
repaved,
one's
gonna,
be
react
to
terrible,
Road,
etc.
So
I
think
this
is
really
gonna
go
a
long
way.
J
I
know,
there's
some
great
projects
already
going
on
that
Tom's
working
with
us,
this
year's
the
school
year
and
it's
great
to
see
that
we
have
this
these
budgeted
every
year
over
year,
because
it
is
such
an
important
aspect
for
our
residents
and
it
gives
it
a
whole
perception
of
the
city
too.
So
a
program.
H
O
M
No,
no,
this
is
over
the
last
number
of
years.
We
warmed
replaced
the
seawall
down
at
craig
park.
It's
the
same
program
go
to
go
down
the
docks
before
we
do
have
issues.
We've
seen
walls
getting
engineering
that
to
make
us
us
assessment.
Since
it's
something
we
have
to
pay
right
away,
the
monies
are
there.
If
not,
then
you
could
build
that
fund
up
all
these
get
that
started
down
again.
C
We're
not
sure
the
amount,
but
we
you
know,
we
know
we
need
to
evaluate
that,
see
there
and
evaluate
what's
the
condition
of
it
and
how
we
need
the
slot
into
our
times.
Where
we're.
Probably
we
want
to
do
that
a
year
or
so
ago.
But
you
know
with
all
the
projects
and
the
dredging
and
stuff
it
got
put
back
and
really
probably
should
have
been
moving
last
year.
I
have
no
idea
of
stop
predicting
engineering
work
anymore
or
the
price
and
stuff.
Hopefully
that's
a
high
price.
C
Hopefully
it's
gonna
come,
but
but
we
need
a
full
analysis
of
our
area,
the
dots
in
that
wall
and
a
full
examination
of
what
needs
to
be
done
and
when
so,
we
don't
have
the
caving
in
that
we
had
that
at
the
park
and
do
so
again,
that's
just
again.
Hopefully
it'll
be
less,
but
that's
just
the
cover,
because
it's
necessary
for
us
to
maintain
that
wall
and
see
what
conditions.
Okay.
M
O
C
A
M
Start
a
program
to
see
walls
problem
in
2005/2006
engineering
work
on
there
and
we
do
monitor
the
conditions
we
know
we
have
playing
areas
to
the
seawall
Craig
Park
is
probably
about
80%
done.
Some
other
work
has
to
be
done,
but
we
won't
think
that
same
program
to
put
the
sea
walls
down
there,
blood
we
feel
are
pretty
safe.
We
walk
them
all
the
time.
They
have
gentlemen
down
there
all
right
now,
no
working
there
all
the
time,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
headed
and
it's
just
pullin
re-engineer
and
get
started.
A
A
P
P
P
Yes,
I
think
we're
find
it
here:
yeah
preacher,
raw
water
wells.
What
this
project
involves
is
bringing
new
water
sources
to
the
RO
facility
and
what
we're
finding
is
in
the
northern
north
of
the
river
or
our
well
sites
would
be
it's
really
running
out
of
available
land
to
put
more
well
sites.
So
we're
looking
at
all
of
our
options
and
then
one
that's
looking
best
to
us
right
now
is
bringing
the
existing
fresh
water
sources.
P
We
have
down
on
distant
Avenue
and
the
other
well
sites
up
to
the
RO
plant
so
that
we
have
one
source
of
water,
a
fresher
source
of
water
that
can
be
treated
by
the
facility
and
sent
out
in
a
uniform
manner
rather
than
adding
water
into
the
system
from
these
individual
sites.
We'll
get
a
lot
more
water
as
a
result,
and
it
will
help
the
overall
product
be
more
consistent.
So,
right
now
that's
really
a
pipeline
and
connection
type
project
that
we're
looking
at,
and
we
put
it
as
a
high
priority.
I
P
I
P
You
know
we're
talking
about
coming
up
in
October
and
typically
we'd
work
through
our
design
for
maybe
four
to
six
months.
This
could
move
pretty
quickly
once
we
get
to
that
point,
so
we
wanted
to
reserve
it
so
that,
if
we're
able
to
get
it
started,
even
if
it's
August
or
September
a
year
from
now,
we're
still
able
to
do
that
rather
than
waiting.
So.
I
P
We've
got
existing
wells
on
distant
Avenue
that
aren't
being
used
their
full
capabilities
as
they
need
further
treatment,
so
we
would
come
in
with
some
sort
of
directional
drill,
pipe,
say
8-inch
diameter
and
bring
it
up
across,
probably
along
19.
We
have
to
go
underneath
the
river
to
do
that
and
then
bring
it
into
the
RO
facility
at
the
nearest
raw
water
connection.
Point.
I
P
That
would
be
that
the
southern
end
of
it
yes,
but
then,
as
you
cross,
the
river
up
along
19
us
19
and
then
come
in
we've
got
some
fresh
water
or
raw
water.
Well,
pipes
that
extend
out
towards
19
that
we
could
tie
into
so
we
don't
have
to
run
it
all
the
way
to
the
plant,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
ways
to
minimize
how
much
pipe
we
need
to
install
to
get.
A
P
A
good
question
mayor
and
that'll
be
part
of
the
design.
Yes,
we'll
probably
need
to
add
some
more
energy
at
the
well
source
to
get
that
enough
pressure
to
move
it
up
to
the
facility,
but
it
won't
need
to
be
as
high
a
pressure
as
you
would
for
a
distribution
system.
So
you're
right,
we
probably
need
to
add
a
bigger
motor,
a
little
more
horsepower
to
get
it
up
there.
In.
P
We're
producing
about
3.2
and
what
we
really
want
is
more
options,
because
right
now
we're
using
everything.
We've
got
we're
meeting
our
demands,
okay,
but
we
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
extra
capacity.
What
you
really
want
that
to
be
able
to
rotate
your
wells
optimize
your
operation
so
right
now,
this
is
our
best
approach.
This
is
money
we've
planned
for
to
add
to
our
supply,
but
we're
seeing
our
approach
has
to
change
a
little
based
on
our
availability
to
find
new
wells.
A
A
P
Piping,
yes,
in
fact
we're
in
the
middle
of
negotiating
the
scope
to
nail
down
this
pipe
alternative,
more
clearly
with
a
cost
estimate
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But
this
is
our
best
estimate
of
what
the
magnitude
of
the
cost
will
be
based
on
some
other
pipeline
work,
we've
seen
bid
in
the
city
and
occurring
I
think
we
consulted
our
engineers
as
well
for
a
rough
estimate.
A
I
P
I
P
O
K
O
K
We
began
work
on
the
design
and
that
is
underway.
Now
what
you
see
there
is
the
cost
associated
with
the
actual
physical
relocation,
horizontal
directional
drill.
So
what
we
would
wind
up
doing
is
piggybacking
a
contract
on
an
approach
didn't
use
that
term,
but
we
would
use
a
local
agreement
so
that
the
county's
contractor
would
do
the
work
so
we're
not
having
two
different
contractors
doing
it.
That's
you
know,
typically
how
you
do
these
jobs
and
that's
what
this
would
be
for,
so
that
it
would.
H
K
F
K
K
A
K
J
J
I've
brought
a
great
list
of
projects
that
I
think
should
also
be
highlighted
in
a
quarterly
update
and
the
water
bill
that's
sent
out.
It
was
just
so
the
residents
know
when
they're
paying
those
water
bills
and
they
see
the
stormwater
and
water
and
sewer
fees.
What
the
projects
are
actually
going
toward
so
again,
I'm
encouraged
to
see
the
water
pipe
and
valve
replacement
and
with
those
amount
of
funds
set
aside
for
that,
but
those
projects.
A
P
Start
with
a
general
explanation,
and
if
you
need
more
detail
from
sue,
we
work
very
closely
with
IT
to
keep
our
GIS
system
up
to
date.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
over
the
last
several
years
and,
yes,
we
do
have
an
existing
system,
we're
able
to
access
it
online
and
we
use
it
regularly
in
our
work
to
make
sure
the
information
we're
giving
to
the
public
the
work
that
we
do,
that
we're
considering
what's
already
in
the
ground.
P
It
even
helps
us
in
emergencies,
to
know
where
the
valves
are
especially
over
at
a
time
when
dirt
and
things
cover
up
valves-
and
we
don't
see
them.
You
can
pull
this
up
on
a
tablet
that
actually
happened
not
too
long
ago
and
say:
oh
wait.
There's
one
over
here
walk
over
and
move
the
dirt
with
your
foot
and
there
it
is
I
mean
it's
pretty
fantastic
technology.
So
this
money
is
part
of
a
regular
schedule
for
keeping
our
equipment
up-to-date.
P
O
A
Mr.
Smith
right
above
that
is
the
meter,
repair
and
change
out.
This
is
a
great
program
we
do
that
every
year
and
this
year
we're
going
to
spend
one
hundred
twenty-five
thousand
dollars.
I
will
get
in
close
to
finished
with
this
project,
because
we've
been
doing
that
for
a
while,
but
it's
very
very
helpful,
especially
when
we
have
a
concern
from
a
customer
that
they
have
a
worldly
automatically.
You
find
out
exactly
what
the
problem
is
and
Thank.
P
You
mayor
and
thank
you
for
your
patience.
Yes,
we
are
working
our
way
through
this
project.
I
Blaz
estimate
I
have
from
staff,
is
about
70%,
complete
and
understand.
Some
cities
will
just
pay
a
tremendous
I
mean
millions
of
dollars
to
bring
a
contractor
in
and
do
this,
and
this
is
one
of
the
jobs
we
thought
we
could
do
sort
of
part-time.
You
know
as
we're
doing
our
other
work
replacing
these
meters
and
it's
been
effective
for
us,
but
yes,
it
does
take
longer.
P
Certainly
does
so
each
year
we're
keeping
that
progress
up,
we're
doing
it
on
a
prioritized
basis.
We
work
with
the
utility
billing
staff
to
say
what
we
ones
are
giving
you
trouble.
Watch
meters
are
failing
a
lot.
Let's
go
do
that
Street,
so
it's
really
working
with
them
closely
to
get
the
best
results
with
the
money,
but
you're
right.
Those
meters
do
really
pay
a
benefit
back
when
we
can
do
Diagnostics
on
water
use
and
help
a
customer
figure
out
why
their
bill
might
be
high
and
particularly
does
help
save
some
water.
A
A
J
City
manager
gone
I'm,
not
sure
you
could
answer
this.
One
so
exercise
park
has
two
pickleball
courts
and
two
shuffleboard
courts
and
I
know
I.
Think
Ron
discussed
that
there's
$120,000
that
would
be
available
after
the
proposed
budget
is
used
or,
if
is
approved,
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
pickleball
courts
and
I'm
extremely
familiar
with
shuffleboard
courts.
J
Just
not
really
sure
if
there's
a
demand
for
shuffleboard
boards
based
on
the
usages
in
craig
park
and
also
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
for
pickleball
courts
that
potentially
could
be
used
for
the
trail
extension,
maybe
a
better
use
of
funds
this
year
and
wait
until
the
following
year.
If
this
is
still
demand,
because
I'd
like
to
see
some
more
I
guess,
statistics
or
a
true
demand
for
pickleball
courts,
an
additional
shuffleboard
fortune
for
close
to
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
spent
on
this
project
as
a
whole.
J
P
I
may
add
some
information
about
your
church
in
about
the
shuffle
board
and
the
pickleball
courts.
I
also
participate
in
the
parser
advisory
board
meetings
and
they
provide
their
input
and
research
to
us
and
I
will
say
from
my
own
knowledge
with
staff
at
the
community
center.
The
pickleball
is
exploding
in
popularity
to
the
point
we
have
the
in
indoor
at
the
gym.
We
have
to
cut
back
on
the
number
of
days
that
they
request
to
allow
other
programs
to
happen.
P
So
this
was
a
recommendation
of
our
parks
rec
advisory
board
to
do
some
outdoor
courts.
We're
gonna
be
looking
at
doing
it
in-house,
but
some
functions
group
to
keep
the
cost
to
a
minimum,
and
it
would
be
over
at
that
South
parcel
there,
which
is
south
of
the
dog
park,
and
that
area
where
the
exercise
equipment
is.
That
would
be
the
area
where
those
courts
would
go.
Is.
P
I
think
initially,
no
lighting
is
that
correct,
yeah
just
to
keep
the
cost
down.
Regarding
this
shuffleboard,
we
do
have
a
group.
That's
been
regularly
asking
us
about
rehabbing
the
ones
at
Craig
Park.
This
idea
is
to
put
the
shuffleboard
course,
perhaps
at
this
other
location,
so
that
that
would
free
up
more
opportunities
at
Craig
park
for
other
plans.
So
there
is
a
there
is
an
interest
in
shuffleboard,
and
so
that's
what
prompted
that.
J
H
J
A
recreation
standpoint,
though
something
that's
been
brought
up,
and
maybe
this
falls
under
under
another
category.
So
correct
me
if
I'm
speaking
out
of
turn,
if
it
falls
under
parks,
a
floating
dock
at
that
people
that
are
residents
that
used
the
boat
ramp
in
Craig
park
and
I,
brought
it
up
the
past
couple
years
about
the
the
floating
dock,
not
really
being
big
enough
for
the
amount
of
traffic
that
comes
and
goes
to
tie
up
the
boats
and
that
there's
just
not
enough
space.
J
J
Unpack
fun
during
it
I
know,
there's
a
couple:
unfunded
items
and
the
parks
and
recreation
we
could
get
into
more
details,
but
there's
two
things
that
I
think
are
really
important
to
tarpon
springs.
One
is
a
sunset
beach
sand
replenishment
when
you're
out
there
there's
just
a
lot
of
small
rocks
and
the
beach
sand
is
getting
pretty
rough
and
that
being
one
of
the
big
attractions
of
Tarpon
Springs,
especially
the
residents
going
there,
because
our
county
officials
and
have
decided
to
continue
to
charge
for
parking
and
for
howard
beach.
J
So
we're
gonna
have
more
in
demand
at
sunset.
Beach,
with
that
it
makes
sense.
I
think
the
replenish
that,
as
often
as
we
can
and
try
to
grade
out
as
much
of
the
rocks
as
we
can
out
of
there
as
well
and
then,
when
you're
looking
at
the
city
wide
playground,
rehab
I
haven't
played
on
any
playground
equipment
lately.
J
But
if
there's
a
need
to
rehab
any
of
it,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
rehab
it
as
soon
as
like
any
time
it
comes
up,
because
it's
such
an
important
thing
to
make
sure
kids
are
out
playing
out
in
the
environment
and
out
in
the
parks
city
manager.
If
you
could
just
help
highlight
one
other
thing,
Highland
Park
I
know
that
came
up
for
discussion
was
that
funded
for
the
2019
fiscal
year?
Is
that
something
that's
been
put
on?
Hold.
J
J
It
the
residents
of
that
area
that
the
neighborhoods
yeah,
okay,
I
just
know,
there's
a
from
I
mean
if
it's
additional
well
I
know
it's
a
long
time
coming
as
a
park.
That's
been
neglected
for
quite
some
time
and
so
anytime
we
could
put
some
additional
funds
there
and
get
some
projects
going,
I'm,
not
sure
what
it
may
be.
If
it's
at
least
a
better
walkway
out
to
the
dock
in
the
lake
I
mean
that
could
be
a
start
right.
That's.
C
Right
now,
what
we're,
looking
at
more
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
with
our
equipment
on
our
personnel?
Now
you
know
maybe
some
small
amenity,
but
mostly
that's
what
we're
looking
at
now
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
work,
clearing
clearing
the
brush
and
that
sort
of
thing
the
dock
is
in
better
shape
than
we
thought
it
was
there's,
not
major
repairs
that
needed
me
to
the
dock.
So
right
now
we're
just
looking
at
some
different
things
that
we
could
possibly
do
with
our
crews
and
make
it
better
or
something
real,
real.
Low-Cost.
J
C
J
And
a
boat
ramp
I
think,
isn't
it
additional
necessity,
I'm
not
sure
where
that
can
be
if
it's
there's
a
spot
over
by
the
splash
park
anywhere
or
if
there's
any
other
areas
to
help
expand
parking,
if
it's
out
by
sunset,
beach,
etc.
That's
an
important
part
of
that
I
could
touch
later
on
that
on
some
of
the
$800,000
I
can
be
potentially
used
for
other
projects.
C
A
N
N
M
Up
an
evaluation
on
the
deck
over
there,
we
believe
we
do
the
deck,
and
then
this
year
we're
gonna
replace
the
fencing
around
it.
We
do
have
a
few
more
lights.
We
have
to
put
it
in,
we
put
it
in
house,
then
we
got
like
three
or
four
more
lights
on
the
east
side
of
the
tennis
courts,
but
hopefully
in
the
next
six
months
or
so
that
would
be
up
in
pretty
good
shape.
Tom.
M
Now
the
bail
it's
been
there
for
a
number
of
years.
What
we
have
to
do
is
we
have
we've
talked
to
a
couple,
different
contractors
that
actually
do
this
kind
of
work
and
we
looked
at
possibly
taking
up
the
whole
deck
and
replace
the
deck
and
pour
in
our
own
deck
and
then
come
back
and
put
a
finish
on
it.
M
But
we
found
out
from
another
gentleman
on
how
they're,
using
a
different
type
of
product,
on
top
of
it's
a
mesh
that
we
can
put
over
the
existing
one
put
that
mesh
down
and
then
resurface
it
at
probably
half
the
cost.
What
replacing
the
whole
deck
is.
We
had
a
conversation
here
max
in
the
other
day,
so
we're
working
on
getting
some
stuff
together,
enacting
and
price
on
it
and
hopefully
go
that
route,
and
then
once
that's
done
that
world
plays
defense
because
that's
that's
definitely
entire
need.
A
N
And
I
just
wanted
to
say,
make
a
couple
of
comments
on
what
Commissioner
Carson
as
far
as
the
playground
equipment
I
do
go
to
the
playgrounds
with
my
granddaughter
I
think
y'all
have
been
doing.
A
great
job
is
with
keeping
up
and
rehabbing
the
equipment
this
past
year.
You
have
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
H
H
N
For
the
beach
sand,
replenishment
I
talked
to
Bob
I,
don't
know
what
yes
right.
Now,
when
we
do
the
the
dredge
about
possibly
using
what's
collected
to
for
Sunset
Beach,
which
I
know
that
we
really
need
to
replenish
that
Beach
and,
as
you
were,
saying,
remove
the
rocks.
But
we
talked
about
the
possibility
of
use
some
of
that,
whatever
we
you
know
collect
that
can
be
used.
If.
N
O
Yeah
again
sorry
for
bouncing
around
here,
but
on
the
exercise
Park
or
the
shuffleboard
courts
again,
I
get
it
if
we're
replacing
those.
If
we're
playing
over,
put
something
new
in
the
Craig
Park.
But
do
we
have
any
idea
what
that
new
thing
might
be?
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
funding,
something
that's
going
to
replace
something
that
we
don't
have
any
plans.
C
Ideas
and
that's
something
we'd
have
to
come
across
and
we
decide
a
whole
plan
on
what
we
want
to
do.
There's
a
plan
to
assist
you
stay
with
the
boat
around
in
the
park.
There's
two
trains
of
thoughts,
the
utilize,
the
area
to
increase
the
efficiency
of
the
bo-ram
and
stuff,
and
the
other
idea
is
to
make
more
green
space.
C
So
you've
got
two
sides
that
are
passionate
about
about
two
different
things,
and
so
that
would
be
a
board's
decision,
but
the
two
things,
maybe
there's
a
third
one
out
there,
but
the
two
things
everybody
talking
about
is
just
more
green
space
with
those
out
there,
then
of
concrete
you
got
now:
that's
that's
not
used
for
green
space
or
to
use
that
to
assist
with
the
problem
with
both
trailers
on
a
plan
that
we
had
talked
about
bringing
forward
in
the
future
of
there.
So
those
would
be
the
two
things
that
you
will
utilize.
Therefore,.
O
C
O
An
agenda
within
the
next
few
months:
okay,
I
just
didn't-
want
to
fund
something.
It
was
just
gonna
sit
there
and
then
we'd
have
so
many
shuffleboard
courts,
because
whenever
I'm
in
a
Craig
park
right
now,
there's
nobody
out
there
using
them
and
then
secondly,
as
far
as
the
dredging
goes
possibly
using
their
sand,
I
think
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
planned
out
yet,
but
isn't
it
possible
and
again,
I
think
this
might
be
a
good
question
for.
N
O
I
just
want
to
know
cuz
cuz
typically
done
that
work,
how
the
contractor
might
use
like
a
hydrocyclone
dredge
and
they
might
just
pump
it
right
on
an
Chlo
beach.
I
know
that
was
floated
around
when
it
first
happened
and
they
pump
it
and
dude
into
a
hydro,
cyclone
right
on
and
Chloe
Beach,
and
then
they
put
it
all
all
the
clean
sand
right
there
right
there
and
then,
and
they
be
able
to
do
that.
L
K
Materials
there
there's
a
cultural
resources
issue
there,
so
can't
use
that
part,
but
the
majority
of
the
materials
is
going
to
go
to
the
upland
site
that
we've
already
determined
the
site
that
we've
already
used
previously
north
on
Eleanor
industrial.
There
may
still
be
a
possibility
to
use
some
of
the
materials
that
are
dredged
any
outer
cuts
at
Sunset
Beach
for
renourishment.
But
at
this
point
that's
not
determined
yet.
Okay.
H
A
K
I
I
G
I
M
Yeah,
it's
actually
from
the
rec
building
in
Craig
Park
to
access
the
restrooms
a
lot
of
times.
They
have
events
in
the
evenings
in
there
after
nine
o'clock
when
the
restrooms
closed
and
that
way
they
can
use
it
for
private
parties
and
or
private
events
or
whatever
Craig
has
going
in
that
building
access.
The
restrooms.
I
M
A
I
I
A
A
C
M
A
A
Another
item
that
I,
like
you
discuss,
is
the
the
Cultural
Center,
the
plaster
repair
and
painting
interior
$25,000,
and
also
the
exterior
light.
You
know
we
spend
a
lot
of
money
to
to
redo
the
other
Culture
Center,
which
is
the
beautiful
building,
hysterical,
building,
yeah
and
I.
Think
we
got
to
finish
it
in
and
complete
the
whole
thing.
M
K
M
M
M
M
A
I
J
In
favor
of
the
exterior
lights,
I
think
the
most
important
thing
is
you
make
sure
that
the
lights
are
actually,
if
they're,
at
the
entrance
ways,
if
they're
within
the
fixture
itself,
instead
of
just
having
a
light
but
just
throwing
light
all
over
the
place,
similar
to
what
you've
seen
kind
of
the
old
fashioned
lights
around
town
right.
So
you
really
are
capturing
your
being
directive
of
the
light
where
it's
going
and
so
just
light
pollution
all
over
the
place.
J
J
J
A
A
O
J
D
I
J
D
J
J
J
M
O
Yeah
Thank
You
Commissioner,
core
I,
didn't
want
to
interrupt
you,
but
I
have
some
additional
information
on
the
land
preservation
fund.
I
actually
wrote
down
exactly
what
it
says
in
writing
about
the
land
preservation
fund
before
a
meeting.
So
the
purpose
of
this
fund
is
to
acquire
land
within
the
city
that
is
suitable
for
preservation,
open
space
or
Park.
O
So
the
48,000
you
see
right
there
I
believe
is
pretty
pretty
underutilized,
because
the
purpose
behind
the
land
preservation
fund
originally
was
was
actually
to
kind
of
sidestep
some
of
the
environmental
issues
we
get
into
with
property
rights
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
use
land
for
preservation
within
the
city,
because
so
many
problems
we
have
with
new
development
and
stuff
like
that
is
well.
They
have
property
rights
they
own
this
lands.
Is
this
really
government's
role
to
jump
in
here
and
say
whether
they
can
or
cannot
build
this?
I
O
I
think
and
I
think
there's
some
wording
in
the
land
preservation
fund
where
it
gives
I,
don't
think,
gives
the
board
or
it
gives
city
staff,
and
maybe
the
city
manager
can
help
me
out
on
this
I
think
it
gives
us
the
option
of
indifferent
sales.
We
can
take
a
percentage
of
it
and
we
can
say
we're
going
to
reserve
this.
This
percentage
for
land
preservation
I
think
it's
very
small,
but
it
was
supposed
to
add
up
over
time.
Ron.
O
O
I
mean
I.
This
is
this
is
a
good,
a
good
fund,
in
theory,
I
think,
obviously,
no
we're
not
selling
very
much
land
right
now,
I'm,
not
even
asking
that
we
do
that,
but
I
think
we
might
want
to
look
into
expanding
the
land
preservation
fund
or
possibly
trying
to
get
it
some
more
funding,
even
if
it
is
just
built
up
over
time.
O
It'd
be
really
nice
if,
whenever
one
of
these
environmental
issues
come
up,
whether
it's
you
know
stuff
like
the
Walmart
property
or
the
Wawa
property
are
in
one
of
those
instances,
the
city
would
be
able
to
legally
buy
a
piece
of
land
and
preserve
it
as
either
natural
Florida
lands
or
make
it
a
park
again.
I'd
have
to
get
with
Ron
and
the
city
manager
and
see
if
we
could
get
creative
and
see
how
we
could
get
more
money
into
that.
But
I
think
this
is
an
underutilized
fund
right
now.
They.
J
Make
a
comment
on
this,
but
one
of
the
beautiful
things
about
Savannah
Georgia
is
that
they
have
these
squares
throughout
their
town,
and
this
is
talking
about
land
preservation
and
creating
a
park
or
some
type
of
Preserve
in
that
area,
and
a
good
example
that
this
may
be
used,
although
this
is
within
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
But
it's
unincorporated
City
is
that
there's
a
gas
station
on
analysis,
that's
for
sale
for
three
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars,
I
believe
or
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
across
from
bread-and-butter
deli.
J
Again
it's
a
it's
not
an
attractive
site.
It's
an
area
that
the
city
potentially
could
buy
or
a
wealthy
individual.
If
they
want
to
donate
money
through
the
city,
could
buy
and
then
donate
to
the
city
and
then
also
make
it
a
green
square
right.
So
it's
a
green
space.
It
has
a
protective
evident
on
it
and
then
you
could
try
and
look
at
these
areas
all
around
tarpon
springs
and
designate.
This
would
be
an
area
that
would
be
desirable
to
see
a
green
square.
You
can
put
a
statue
on
it
with
public
art.
J
O
Also
real
quick
just
while
I
have
the
floor,
I
did
want
to
get
consensus.
I
agree
with
the
Vice
mayor's
shuffleboard
sentiment
that
we
shouldn't
fund
it
right
at
least
not
right
now,
until
we
know
exactly
what
we're
doing
so,
I
just
want
to
see
if
we
could
get
board
consensus
on
not
funding
those
shuffleboard
courts
for
the
exercise.
Part
I
would
be
in
favor
of
not
funding
them.
N
When
Tom
spoke,
he
said
that
there
is
a
need,
there's
residents,
that
that
really
want
the
shuffleboard
court,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
that
would
create
with
the
residents
that
really
don't,
especially
if
we
get
rid
of
them
it
at
Craig
Park,
as
we've
been
talking
about,
because
it
plans
that
we
had
I'm
not
sure
about
that
about
not
finding
it
Tom.
Where
are
you
do
you
you
know?
Do
you
see
a
real
need
for
the
shuffleboard
there's.
M
I
D
I
L
D
Word
is
correct:
we're
not
using
any
unassigned
fund
balance.
It's
still
at
eight
point:
eight
million
I
think
it's
just
it's
just
a
term
up
there
that
just
it's
so
we're
using
general
fund
monies.
So
maybe
that
unassigned
wording
and
there
could
be
a
little
bit
confusing
there,
but
we're
not
using
unassigned
fund
balance.
H
I
P
Be
on
site-
and
this
is
tying
in
with
the
expansion
that
we're
planning-
we
need
to
be
taking
customers
over
to
see
that
new
area
on
a
regular
basis,
there's
also
regular
trips
to
City
Hall
from
the
cemetery.
So
this
is
the
main
vehicle.
That's
used
to
go
back
and
forth.
It's
our
effort
to
make
a
move
in
that
sustainability
direction,
using
a
hybrid
vehicle
instead
of
a
typical
vehicle
to
accomplish
city
business
in
a
way
that
really
wouldn't
be
impacted
by
that
type
of
vehicle.
So.
P
I
I
P
I
H
I
I
P
We
have
two
different
staff
members.
We
have
the
office
person
who
does
the
trips
to
City
Hall,
and
we
have
the
grounds
person
that
uses
the
truck
for
things
around
grounds
getting
fuel
for
vehicles.
I
mean
they
can
share
that
vehicle
back
and
forth,
but
it
really
is
something
where
both
can
be
used
at
the
same
time.
P
So
I
don't
want
to
mislead
you
to
think
that
once
that
idle,
while
the
other
one's
being
used,
I
also
will
tell
you
that
the
main
way
to
show
customers
I
know
we're
talking
about
the
timing
is
to
drive
them
over
to
that
new
site.
We
really
don't
want
to
use
a
courtesy,
cart
to
cross
Jasmine
I
I
feel
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
stretch
safety-wise,
so
we
want
to
be
using
our
vehicle
to
exit
out
of
Jasmine
and
drive
in
to
that
new
site.
That
way,
so
I
do
see
it
for
that
purpose.
A
A
A
P
That's
more
for
staff
I!
Don't
recommend
that
as
a
regular
way
to
show
customers
the
cemetery,
that's
more
for
staff
to
get
back
and
forth
with
mowing
equipment
and
that
sort
of
thing
we're
going
to
have
a
crosswalk
going
from
the
cemetery
to
the
one
next
door,
but
to
show
customers
we'll
use
that
back
exit
on
Jasmine.
P
J
If
you
mind
so,
there's
not
really
a
need
and
I
guess,
like
a
better
question
for
me
to
understand,
is
there's
a
city
have
a
program
where
they'll
reimburse
the
employee
a
mileage
we're
driving
their
own
vehicle
because
I
think
I'm
a
maintenance
standpoint.
If
we
put
it
off
another
year
to
preserve
it
on
the
backend
from
replacing
it,
it
may
be.
The
most
prudent
thing
to
do.
I
know
you're,
not
one
just
to
go
out
and
spend
money
just
to
spend
money.
J
But
in
this
aspect
I
do
see
I
mean
there's
not
another
cemetery
to
sell
plots
at
there's,
not
necessarily
need
yet,
so
we
just
might
be
able
to
push
it
to
fiscal
year
2021,
and
if
someone
needs
to
drive
up
to
City
Hall
I
mean.
Can
we
just
reimburse
him
by
mileage
problem
with
that
I
mean
every
other.
You.
C
C
But
again
it's
from
the
pressure
fund,
whether
it's
bought
then
or
not,
I'm
sure,
because
there's
twenty
five
thousand
that's
gonna,
be
spending
plus
it's
our
initial
thing
to
move
in
the
into
the
sustainability
and
show
we're
starting
to
go
to
those
vehicles,
and
since
this
isn't
that
fun,
so
it
doesn't
really
matter.
It's
not
like
the
general
fund
and
you're
gonna
be
able
to
fund
something
else
with
the
money.
You're,
not
gonna,
just
gonna
still
sit
in
there
and
you're
going
to
spend
it,
maybe
in
October,
in
November
instead
of
June
July.
C
So
I
think
you
wanted
to
get
a
push
on,
so
we
could
use
it
for
what
it
need
to
be
do
now.
We've
started
our
sustainability
program
with
vehicles
and
it's
a
necessary
thing
out
there,
so
it
can
be
used
but
couldn't
waive
any
budget
when
I
mean
if
some,
if
we
start
hopping
on
the
cemetery
project,
could
we
come
back
to
you
because
it's
still
funds
gonna
be
there?
It's
not
like
we'll
use
it
for
anybody
else,
five
thousand
bees
in
there.
C
You
know
we
could
come
back
to
you
and
do
it
I
think
he
just
wanted
to
get
a
jump
and
get
it
going
and
also
as
our
sustainability
manager
just
started.
That
was
the
first
place
where
he
saw
the
ability
to
use
a
sustainable
vehicle
to
accomplish
those
things
back
and
forth.
So,
but
it's
really
it's
really
up
to
this
board.
If
we,
if
you
want
us
to
wait
and
see
the
need
in
July,
if
we,
if
it's
before
the
end
of
the
budget
year,
come
back
as
a
we
need
that
vehicle.
C
N
That
we
do
it
now,
because
you
don't
know
when
we're
gonna
need
it,
and
we
may
need
it
before
the
next
budget
year
and
it
is,
you
do
have
it
funded
so
I
don't
see
the
reason
to
wait
another
year
and
you
use
your
funding
in
2021
when
you
have
its
budget
for
this
year.
So
I
support
you
getting
the
Prius.
I
I
N
I
N
C
P
I
told
you
we're
gonna
be
going
to
bid
probably
about
three
months
ago
and
that
hasn't
happened
yet
so
you
know
vice
mayor,
chair,
Penny's
points
well-taken,
it's
hard
to
say,
I'd
like
it
to
be
by
July
and
August,
and
that's
good
planning.
You
want
a
plan
to
be
ready.
When
you
know
you
could
be
ready,
could
we
wait
a
little
bit
sure
and
we've
gotten
along
without
the
second
vehicle
to
come
to
the
office?
We
can
do
it
a
little
longer.
P
N
J
P
J
Sir
okay
mayor,
you
brought
up
a
couple
good
ones:
exterior
lighting
at
the
culture
center
I
think
is
very
important,
but
looking
back
at
the
other
aspects,
there's
City
Hall
Auditorium
carpet
since
we're
all
here
right
now
in
City
Hall
auditorium,
we
can
look
around
a
beautiful,
green,
well
used
carpet
and
I
think
it
would
serve
the
city
well
to
replace
this
to
a
Harper
that
may
not
fade
the
yellowish
color.
That.
H
J
Or
showed
dirt,
etc.
So
I
do
think
that
should
be
on
a
priority
list.
The
Safford
house
paint
exterior
and
replacement
of
cabinets
and
door
placement
I'm
not
really
sure
what
the
cabinet's
entail,
but
I
would
support
the
paint
of
an
exterior
ASAP.
If
there's
a
need
for
that,
because
I
know
and
the
historic
house
is
if
they
don't
keep
the
paint
on
the
building,
the
wood
will
start
to
rot
and
then
it's
gonna
start
costing
the
city
additional
funds.
J
So
if
the
city
could
put
some
funds
and
priority
to
at
least
paint
the
exterior
of
the
building,
it's
gonna
help
prevent
additional
maintenance
cost
later
on
down
the
road.
Again,
this
falls
into
here
the
Heritage
Museum.
The
paint
of
the
almost
rope-
that's
is
that
interior
exterior
I
don't
know
exterior
yeah.
So
if
it's,
the
exterior
I
would
support
that
to
be
on
the
priority
list
as
well
like
it's,
the
exit
door
bars
and
the
kitchen
replacement
flooring.
J
I,
don't
necessarily
see
that
as
a
priority,
but
the
exterior
paint
is
also
I
think
a
priority
that
should
be
brought
up
to
the
list
and
then
something
that's
been
talked
about
for
the
past
couple
years
is
a
downtown
decorative
lighting
and
electrical
upgrades.
This
is
something
that
the
board
and
past
pass
boards
has
have
come
to.
Consensus
on
in
the
past
couple
years
have
been
brought
up
and
I
think
there's
again.
This
is
one
of
those
aesthetic
things
we're
in
summertime
right
now.
J
If
you
don't
necessarily
see
it
as
well
as
you
would
towards
fall
winter
and
early
spring
because
of
the
Sun
going
down
about
5:30,
but
this
really
when
people
visit
Naples,
they
talk
about
the
lighting
and
the
trees,
and
they
visit
some
of
these
other
areas
at
night.
It
encourages
outdoor
activities,
it
encourages
more
people
to
be
on
the
street
again.
This
doesn't
have
to
be
strictly
in
downtown.
J
It
could
be
also
the
Sponge
Docks
as
well,
and
so
I
would
encourage
that
the
city
staff
find
some
type
of
priority
to
move
forward
with
this,
that
wouldn't
that
would
encompass
the
Mears
parking
lot
at
the
Warren
Street
parking
lot:
the
streets
along
tarpon
Avenue
to
really
get
a
good
system
in
place.
That
really
is
quality.
It's
going
to
last
for
quite
some
time.
J
One
thing
that
wasn't
on
this
list
and
that
we
had
some
discussions
last
meeting
was
a
BOC
tablets.
First,
our
fabulous
workbooks
that
staff
puts
together,
which
I
appreciate
because
it's
a
lot
of
great
information,
but
for
my
city,
that's
trying
to
go
be
more
green
oriented
I
do
think
it's
important
to
use
less
paper
and
resources
to
print
all
this
paper.
A
couple
other
items
is
a
Sunset
Beach
parking
front,
find
a
way
for
additional
parking
in
Sunset
Beach
and
looking
and
evaluating
the
north
side
of
the
Sunset
Beach
causeway.
J
Today
an
individual
parks
when
it's
a
busy
weekend.
You
have
boat
trailers
that
will
park
along
the
sidewalk
in
the
road
and
then
you
also
have
vehicles
park
on
the
sidewalk
in
the
road.
So,
if
you're
coming
and
the
Sunset
Beach
you're
leaving
since
I
beat,
you
ultimately
creates
a
one-way
street,
but
there's
only
one
car
can
get
by.
J
Also
decorative
signs,
the
city's
done
a
great
job
with
the
historic
signs
and
the
historic
district
and
within
the
CRA
district
I
think
we
could
all
agree
to
that.
I
think
it's
important
to
continue
that
effort
across
the
city
and
the
historic
district.
If
there's
still
funding
that
needs
to
be
placed,
there's
also
the
secondary
sign.
So
you
think
of
the
no
parking
on
the
side
of
the
street
the
speed
limit
signs.
Those
are
things
that
should
be
addressed
as
well
and
also
encouraging
the
city
and
I.
J
Street
sign
polling
for
the
stop
science
again,
it's
just
a
whole
perception
aspect
done
means
had
these
were
quite
some
time,
they're
downtown
and
around
their
downtown
area.
I
think
it's
just
good
to
continue
this
project
because
it
really
does
give
an
aesthetics
and
its
way
it
comes
across
in
Tarpon.
Springs
is
a
great
way
and
then,
if
we're
still
looking
for
additional
funds,
we
don't
want
to
forget
about
our
gateway
funding
for
the
signs,
a
sponge,
doc
entrance
sign
and
then
also
the
signs
for
the
parks,
the
park
signs
and
the
public
building
signs.
J
The
city
clerk's
a
great
example
that
signs
been
it's
a
similar
sign
that
you
see
at
craig
park.
You
see
at
rotary
field,
you
see
out
in
front
of
the
city
hall,
it's
an
old
dock,
piling
that
has
the
name
of
the
city
on
there
of
the
city,
building
there
starting
to
fall
down
there
starting
to
deteriorate
pretty
bad.
So
it's
again,
it's
one
of
the
conversations
that
we've
had
is
updating
those
signs.
So
it's
just.
J
J
C
Again,
that's
a
placeholder
to
hold
like
we
did
with
the
original
dredge.
We
put
back
some
projects,
we
save
money
in
the
penny
so
that
we
would
be
in
a
position
if
we
didn't
get
money
and
we
could
fund
it.
That's
what
we're
doing
it
the
same
way
here,
especially
since
we
got
a
short
time
frame
for
when
they're
ready
to
go.
We
have
to
go
because
we
don't
piggyback
with
them.
C
The
cost
is
gonna,
be
more
than
double,
so
we've
got
to
hold
it
if
the
funding
is
not
there
from
somewhere
else,
we
got
to
be.
You
know,
we're
not
gonna,
have
a
time
framing
to
be
able
to
wait
and
get
the
money
we're
gonna
have
you
know
we'll
have
to
do
it.
So
that's
why
it's
a
place
where
that
placeholder
comes
off.
C
You've
got
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
for
penny
type
projects
that
that
your
discretion,
this
board
will
immediately
be
able
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
what
projects
are
gonna
take
priority
I'll
also
be
bringing
you
another
one.
That's
going
to
be
considering
that
list
work
is
the
one
that's
important
in
several
different
ways
and
we'll
probably
I
don't
want
to
jump
the
jump.
C
The
presentation
we
give
you
but
we've
been
looking
at
roundabouts
and
the
roundabouts
at
the
end
of
MLK
and
spring
in
there
not
only
would
be
something
to
help
with
the
traffic
but
another
one
of
our
areas,
dealing
with
the
rising
tides
and
stuff
the
flooding
project,
where
we're
gonna
be
bringing
something
to
you
on
that,
and
that
would
be
another
one
of
consideration.
If
there's
800,000
come
available,
do
and
that'll
be
coming,
probably
in
the
next
couple
meetings,
just
the
concept
to
have
it
out
there
we
haven't.
J
J
J
A
N
Don't
want
to
just
jump
in
okay,
I
always
thinks
you
just
mentioned.
I
agree
with
it,
and
we've
been
talking
about
signage
and
lighting
and
up
lighting
and
beautifying
or
for
a
long
time
now.
So
I
definitely
agree
that
not
only
downtown
but
obviously
on
the
docks
to
lighting
and
signage
is
needed,
and
it's
something
we've
been
discussing.
So
definitely
I
feel
like
that's
a
priority.
O
Yeah
the
rest
of
the
commissioners
brought
up
most
of
the
stuff.
I
had
my
notes
on
and
they
made
some
good
points.
The
one
thing
I
really
do
want
to
stress
as
well
as
just
agree
that
the
sunset
beach
sand
replenishment
should
be
a
priority.
It
needs
to
be
done,
but
other
than
that
I
think
all
my
notes
got
got
stolen,
so.
C
Some
of
those
things
were
falling
off
the
list,
not
because
we
just
had
the
cut
list,
but
there
may
be
some
alternatives,
for
instance
the
sand
and
the
dredge
do
so
they're.
Not
all
you
know
they
do
help,
obviously
to
to
bring
us
to
the
balanced
budget,
but
someone
was
pulled
because
we
either
hoped
we'd
have
some
money
left
over
from
out
of
this
year's
budget
to
be
a
used
form
or,
for
instance,
the
sand.
The
option
that,
if
there's
something
available
from
that,
then
we
might
be
able
to
use
it.
D
To
go
over
a
little
history
of
it,
the
CRA
budget
established
in
2001
financing
of
a
CRA
is
not
to
exceed
30
years.
Financing
from
tic
tacs,
tic,
tacs,
increment
financing,
the
TIF
is
from
both
the
city
and
the
county.
The
TIF
is
based
on
taxable
value
amount
over
the
base
year,
which
is
2000
base
year
value
was
41
million,
thirty,
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eight,
if
amount
over
base
year
times
millage
rate
to
determine
the
annual
CRA
revenue.
D
D
D
A
C
C
Obviously,
there's
talk
about.
Why
do
we
fund
it?
There
we've
always
funded
it.
There
I
believe
that
the
money
for
those
extra
things
should
come
out
of
the
CRA.
If
we're
looking
for
money
to
supplement
the
CRA
in
general
fund
but
I
know,
Tom
is
substantiated
and
I,
don't
know
if
he
got
it
has
those
figures
for
you,
but
again
you
take
a
portion
or
whatever
you
take
and
move
than
general
fund.
You
see
on
your
worksheet
right
here
what
you
have
left
in
there.
C
So,
theoretically
you
want
to
take
fifty
thousand
eighty
thousand
and
transfer
it
to
the
general
fund.
You
see
what
it
does
to
this
out
other
column.
There
cuz
it'll
immediately
be
some
of
your
extra
money
you
plug
in
and
again
you
know
when
the
docs
always
yells
about.
Why
do
they
get
more
down
there?
Why
do
they
have
the
people
working
under
some
more
well?
The
answer
is
because
the
CRA
funds,
those
positions
and
that
way
they
do,
though
remember
the
CRA-
is
a
long
area.
Those
CRA
people
do
the
landscaping
stuff
down
the
trail.
C
They
do
all
that
stuff
so
and
we
knew
when
we
got
the
hotel.
We
knew
we're.
Gonna
have
some
lean
years
to
do
actual
projects.
The
good
news
is
that
after
this
year,
you
see
in
the
budget
with
175
the
last
payment
is
a
hundred,
so
you're
me,
they're
gonna
have
another
75
thousand
for
your
progress.
You
want,
because
the
only
a
hundred
and
then
it
goes
away
we're
almost
paid
for
this
175.
We
ought
to
pay
here.
C
Then,
a
hundred
and
next
year,
CRA
and
that's
done
and
you'll
have
more
projects
to
do,
but
as
far
as
the
funding
of
it
and
the
extra
uses
that
do
I
don't
know
if
you
want
Tom
to
come
up
and
talk
about
that,
he
can't
Tom.
Do
you
want
to
come
talk
about
the
actual
manpower
which
is
more
than
the
1.85
position
and
expand
a
little
bit
of
the
things?
People
don't
see?
It's
not
just
the
downtown.
That's
why
we
have
our
portion
of
the
trail
made
in
this
so
well.
M
Yeah
we
averaged
about
a
hundred
twenty-three
hours
a
week,
actually
a
manpower,
downtown
and
a
lot
of
people,
don't
say
the
parks,
people
down
there,
they're
doing
the
flowers
and
the
cutting
and
stuff
like
that.
We
also
have
upkeep
on
bike
racks
benches,
we're
constantly
replacing
benches
repairs.
M
We
do
a
lot
of
facility
maintenance,
light
ball
light
bulbs,
we
average
about
a
part
of
about
20
hours
a
week,
would
build
maintenance
down
and
doing
take
care
of
tree
lighting,
repairing
our
signs,
replacement
pressure,
Washington
buildings
sanitation's
there
every
single
day,
seven
days
a
week,
doing
the
garbage
pickup
all
throw
it
down.
So
that's
about
14
hours
a
week
and
of
course
we
sweep
down
there
and
that's
just
labor
alone
is
about
five
hours
a
week,
so
it
a
virgin
about
123
hours
a
week.
We
also
do
some
other
other
maintenance.
M
50
hours
a
month,
additional
for
other
maintenance,
stuff,
other
repairs
and
stuff,
you
stolen
other
lights,
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
yearly
stuff.
We
do
down
there
once
a
year
palm
tree
room
trimming,
we
do
all
the
trimming
and
all
the
CRA
area
Christmas
decorations
it
takes
is
about
40
hours
we
put
on
there
and
I've
got
another
one:
cleaning
street
sweeping
power
washing
the
sidewalks.
That's
about
118
hours
a
year
additional
for
those
one
one.
Two
year
projects
we
do
so
it's
quite
a
few
hours.
C
We'll
talk
about
that
when
it
gets
to
my
next
one
seller
about
the
position
which
again
we
gonna
be
in
plant,
we're
gonna,
be
in
plants
wherever
be
adding
things
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
it.
When
we
get
to
the
salary
portion
we
will
be,
we
will
be
putting
additional
manpower
how
the
general
fund
there
that's
what
I'm
asking
and.
A
N
C
Mean
I
have
Karen
can
with
tell
her
what
there's
gonna
be
some
differences.
We've
got
will
be
definitely
taking
some
money
off
this
thing.
Karen,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
the
positions
first
and
have
the
discussion
there.
Cuz,
it's
just
you
know,
I
think
that's
where
it
needs
to
be
funded
and
taken
out
of.
If
there's
anything
we
ever
want
to
do
down
there
with
some
extra
money,
then
we
easy
to
find
money
from
the
general
fund
and
do
it
there
but
again
lights
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
with
the
amount
we're
paying.
C
H
I
You're
talking
about
the
loan
repayment
that
was
for
the
Sunday,
okay
got
you
so
as
far
as
the
positions
funded
out
of
the
CRA,
if
that's
where
you
wanted
to
start
the
conversation,
mr.
city
manager,
I,
don't
have
so
much
of
an
issue
with
that
to
me.
That's
you
know
more
of
a
hard
cost
that
we
have
to
think
in
here
to
here.
H
I
I
Fortunately,
out
of
the
CR
a
fun
something
that
we've
done
this
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
but,
like
I
said
it's
a
it's
a
hard
cost,
so
I
mean
for
the
for
those
positions.
I
don't
have
so
much
of
an
issue
when
you're
ready
to
move
on
to
the
Plan
Update
for
seventy-five
thousand,
then
I
have
one
more
issue
with
that.
C
J
C
Some
cases
it's
Len
people
know,
for
instance,
when
we
did
the
work
on
the
trail
and
we
put
it
on
on
our
Facebook
kind
of
you
know,
we've
been
doing
that
and
everybody
says
Oh
lower
portion.
Well,
that's
because
our
people
are
maintaining
us
here,
but
we're
actually
showing
people
hey.
We
just
these
upgrades
on
faith,
so
we
also
need
to
do
a
better
job
getting
out
to
the
public
of
these
extra
things
that
they're
seeing
and
that's
do
those
people
down
there
dedicated
to
cr8
that
are
doing
those.
Believe
me.
C
J
Just
think
of
it
to
you
notice
the
county
when
it
came
around
election
time
last
general
election
when
they
was
a
bereaved
Oh
or
the
penny
from
Pinellas.
You
started.
Seeing
signs
that
popped
up
project
was
penny.
If
it
panels
I'm,
not
I,
don't
want
to
see
signs.
I
say
this
is
funded
by
the
CRA,
but
it's
good
to
educate
the
residents
and
the
property
owners
that
are
within
the
CRA
and
that
are
also
in
town,
say.
J
C
Q
Plan
update
the
CRA
plan
update
is
this
is
my
only
copy
we
have
right
now.
This
was
the
original
CRA
master
plan.
It's
essentially
a
blueprint,
your
long-range
comprehensive
plan
that
outlines
strategies
analysis
of
all
your
redevelopment
activities
throughout
the
CRA.
So
this
was
done
when
the
CRA
was
created
back
in
2000.
Q
It's
not
useful
anymore.
Everything
has
changed
from
20
years
ago.
So
if
we're
gonna
take
our
development
to
the
next
level,
we
need
to
update
update
this
to
what
the
existing
current
conditions
are,
because
this
goes
back
to
2000
before
we
have
our
special
area
plan
before
we
had
our
smart
code.
Zoning
before
we've
done
a
lot
of
the
that
we've
already
made
it's
not
in
compliance
with
our
current
zoning
codes
with
our
land
development
code
or
with
our
comprehensive
plan.
Q
We've
been
talking
about
that
for
downtown
public
use
is
an
open
space,
gateway,
enhancement,
streetscaping
signage
and
then
any
additional
proposed
incentives
that
could
be
done
to
facilitate
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
plan.
A
lot
of
our
land
use
has
changed
in
the
last
20
years.
It
would
they
would
be
doing
a
complete
parcel
by
parcel
inventory
of
all
the
parcels
within
the
CRA,
there's
I,
think
700
and
some
parcels
I'm.
Q
Looking
at
the
residential
uses,
the
commercial
uses,
public
uses
industrial
uses
and
making
recommendations
on
all
of
those
and
saying
where
are
we
today
and
where
do
we
need
to
go
this
wouldn't
help
guide
us
for
the
next
10
years
of
development?
I
think
we've
done
a
tremendous
job
since
2000
to
get
us
where
we
are
today,
but
if
we
really
want
to
take
it
to
the
next
level,
we
need
to
get
the
plan
updated.
I
did
a.
C
Q
Q
They
ranged
anywhere
from
25
to
$80,000,
so
I
budgeted
on
the
high
end,
because
I
knew
this
might
take
a
lot
since
then,
you
know
I've
taken
a
look
back
at
it
and
without
a
bid,
I,
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
come
back
at,
but
there
are
some
things
in
the
plan
that
we
can
take.
A
look
at
eliminating
one
is
a
transportation
corridor
analysis
that
was
recently
done
by
forward
Pinellas
on
alternate
19.
So
perhaps
that's
something
that
we
don't
need.
Q
We
can
also
do
some
of
our
a
lot
of
public
workshops
are
involved
in
this,
and
that
takes
up
a
lot
of
the
budget
as
well.
So
we
can
do
some
in-house
staff
here
could
do
some
of
the
public
workshops
so
in
with
some
of
those
other
things,
I
was
looking
at
eliminating
from
this.
We
could
bring
it
down
to
probably
maybe
about
35,000,
but
again
I
won't
know
until
we
we
take
it
out
for
a
up
in.
Q
I
Yep
I
mean
to
me
I:
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
the
need
to
update
our
plan.
It's
just
for
me
a
matter
of
number
one,
how
we
fund
it
and
number
two
what
we
select
update,
I,
don't
want
to
just
I
think
as
a
board.
We
should
have
an
idea
of
the
type
of
updates
to
be
done
and
then
select
from
a
list
that
we
find
value
in
the
update
just
like
we
just
did
on
the
on
the
unfunded
project,
and
we
went
through
it.
I
I
What
we're
updating
I
think
that
the
Commission
should
decide
as
since
we
sit
as
the
CRA
Board
I
think
that
we
should
decide
on
you
know
what
is
it
we're
updating
and
why
we're
spending
that
money
there
as
it
relates
to
a
matter
of
importance,
I
mean
you
know,
that's
my
my
thinking
and
I
mean
off
the
bat
I
don't
want
to
spend
the
money
out
of
the
CRA
I
mean
if
it
comes
down
in
price.
It
might
be
more
palatable,
but
generally
as
a
rule.
I
A
I
I
C
Now
we're
just
slotting
the
budget
money
for
the
budget
too.
We're
doing
that,
bringing
back
and
doing
everything
the
vice
mayor
says
we
can
bring
over
that's
the
way
we
can
do.
The
bid
to
have
a
price
I
mean
there's,
there's
several
different
ways.
We
can
deal
with
that.
All
really
we're
talking
about
tonight.
Are
we
gonna
slot
the
$35,000
here?
C
N
That
it
should
come
out
of
CRA
I
just
was
wondering
what
the
figure
is
going
to
be,
because
we
have
so
many
things
that
we
want
to
do
with
her
that
are
not
going
to
be
done
or
that
we
want
to
be
done
with
the
general
fund.
So
I
agree
to
come
out
of
CRA,
but
I
just
don't
know
what
the
figure
should
be
in.
C
How
you
want
us
to
go
about
going
out
the
bid
to
get
the
prices
of
the
different
areas,
sir?
That
would
be
a
whole
another
meeting,
and
that
would
be
your
meeting
as
a
CRA.
This
is
a
commission.
You
have
to
you,
know
the
budget,
this
money
we're
just
talking
about
budgeting
the
CRA
here,
that's
kind
of
we're
looking
for
tonight,
but
everything
vice
mayor
said
we
could
do
I.
I
J
Q
C
I
I
Q
I
Q
I
Q
J
Tonight
we're
talking
about
a
placeholder
and
this
aspect.
Mr.
Sieber
talked
about
potentially
supporting
this
out
of
the
Sierra.
She
did
talk
about
supporting
OCR.
A
vice
mayor
mentioned
that
it
was
a
lower
it'd,
be
more
palatable
from
my
standpoint,
as
commissioner
I
mean
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
support
anything
greater
than
$25,000
at
CRA
for
the
placeholder
today
it
would
be
20
to
25,000.
Now,
vice
mayor
brought
up
a
great
point.
Mr.
J
Sieber
brought
up
a
great
point:
let's
see
what
the
priorities
are
because
Karen,
you
brought
up
a
great
point
as
well
forward
panels
already
completed
in
a
study.
The
workshops
with
residents
is
something
that
we
can
do
it
and
with
staff
to
save
funds
that
we
have
salaried
staff
they're
working
with
these
workshops.
So
we
have
to
pay
a
consultant
to
do
this.
So
how
do
we
get
creative
with
our
current
staff,
which
I
believe
there's
three
planners
and
an
economic
developer
and
a
seasoned
city
manager
right?
J
So
how
do
we
figure
this
out
in-house
as
well
as
much
as
we
can
so
overall
I
think
it's
best
to
do
what
has
been
discussed
already
game-playing?
What
the
goals
are
and
then
come
back
and
say
well,
this
is
what
we
really
should
do
if
you
get
away
with
not
updating
this
part
of
the
plan,
but
right
now,
I
wouldn't
put
any
more
than
$25,000
against
it
for
this
coming
years
budget.
When
you
look
at
anything
further
than
we
have
further
discussions,
but
that's
what
I
feel
comfortable
with
75,000
so
much.
O
O
So
yeah
I'd
like
to
see
section
by
section
and
see
how
much
we
can
do
in-house
and
see
what
we
want
to
prioritize
and
how
we
want
a
probably
were
ties
it,
but
just
for
the
sake
of
budgeting.
Seventy-Five
thousand
dollars
to
me
is
way
too
high.
I
wanted
to
see
it
lowered
and
$25,000
is
a
lot
lower,
so
I'm
good
with
that
number
as
well.
J
A
A
Q
There's
statutory
requirements
that
your
plan
has
to
have
that
our
current
plan
doesn't
have
so
those
are
things
that
can
bring
back
I
can
bring
you
back
the
scope
of
work
that
we
put
together.
You
can
take
a
look
at
all
of
those
things,
the
county's
requiring
plans
now
to
be
updated
and
to
be
relevant
to
to
what
you're
doing
so.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that's
prompting
this.
There
was
a
state
audit
of
CRA
that
was
conducted
a
couple
years
ago
and
in
Pinellas
County.
Q
One
of
the
recommendations
that
came
out
of
there
is,
at
the
county,
take
more
proactive
approach
with
overseeing
the
CRA
s.
They've
been
kind
of
hands-off,
so
they've
done
a
number
of
different
items
to
address
that
recommendation,
including
new
and
updated
reporting
requirements
of
CRA
s,
uniform
reporting
requirements
right
now,
they're
series
or
reporting
various
different
types
of
budget
information.
They
want
it
all
to
be
the
same,
they're
going
to
be
doing
site
visits
to
see
what
our
projects
are
and
they're
requiring
the
again
the
plans
to
be
relevant
and
updated.
C
N
I
just
feel
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
the
manpower
to
do
this
ourselves.
They
already
are
doing
so
much
in
that
department
or
in
those
departments.
So
I
don't
know
the
25,000
could
be
enough.
I
mean
if
we
budget
35,000
would
come
under
I
feel,
like
you
know,
we're
fine
with
that,
but
just
limiting
it
to
25,000
and
not
being
able
to
do
it
in-house
and
and
having
to
come
back
and
get
more
money.
I
think
is
it's
not
necessarily
the
way
to
go
so
I
would
increase
it
to
at
least
35,000.
A
Q
I
A
H
C
A
C
We're
we're
working
on
that
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
Thanks
thanks
to
some
information
guy,
we're
trying
to
see
about
reclassification
of
the
corridor.
We're
trying
to
do
some
things,
we're
trying
to
work
on
dealing
with
FDOT,
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
the
world,
we're
hoping
to
bring
something
back
with
you
when
we
know
what
the
problems
are.
We
know
what
we
want
to
do,
we're
in
the
working
stages,
with
several
different
degrees
of
of
government
with
for
Pinellas
with
FDOT.
A
C
To
do
that
with
that's
one
of
the
remember:
the
budget
is
a
dynamic
that
goes
throughout
the
year
to
what
this
budget
point
is
in
October.
If
something
came
together
where
we
could
do
something
in
North
quarter
and
stuff,
we
have
to
go
in
there
and
either
put
a
project
back
work
on
doing
some
things,
but
you
know
the
budget
is
year
round.
You
don't
find
a
lot,
it
won't
finalize
and
we
can
do
things.
H
I
We
reclassify
the
corridor
to
something
you
know
with
a
different
title
that
essentially
wouldn't
give
us
broader
scope
and
the
dimensions
of
the
three
will
not
close.
They
can
be
to
the
street,
but
until
we
reach
potentially
reclassify
the
corridor,
then
you
know
our
hands
are
essentially
thought
as
of
right
now,
yeah.
C
We
are,
we
are
doing.
You
know
we
are
working
on
some
baskets
some
landscape
and
we
got
some
information
will
hopefully
be
bringing
you
in
the
coming
weeks
with
some
landowners
that
a
commission
working
on
to
to
finally
get
some
agreements
on
some
of
the
private
property.
To
do
so
believe
me,
that's
on
the
top
of
our
our
working
list
on
North,
Pinellas,
and
but
we
just
don't
have
enough
knowledge
to
give
you
anything
concrete
to
do
for
budget
right
now.
C
H
Q
I
A
A
J
J
Okay,
I've
got
a
list
here,
so
we
talked
about
lighting
before
and
the
last
Capitol
discussion.
So
we
see
the
lighting
of
our
hibiscus
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
Edison
bulbs
that
won't
ever
hide.
This
helped
bring
attention
to
the
cafe's
down
that
area,
and
that
was
one
of
the
most
well-liked
posts
on
the
city's
Facebook
page
I.
Think.
C
J
Anything
else,
so
a
couple
of
ideas
that
I
had
is
to
extend
that
lighting,
potentially
in
between
Tuscan
Sun
and
the
tavern
in
that
alley
area
there,
and
if
it
could
be
continued
down
to
a
hibiscus
as
well
just
to
bring
some
more
lighting
in
that
alley.
Area
I'm
not
really
sure
how
that
would
work
and
out
in
that
alley
area,
but
just
a
there's.
Some
discussion
points
out
to
get
our
minds
thinking
a
little
bit
Safford
over
the
bike
trail
as
well
in
certain
parts
of
the
bike
trail
in
downtown.
J
If
it's
in
front
of
Tula's
or
if
it's
in
front
of
Neptune's
or
if
it's
on
the
north
side,
that's
in
front
of
from
SunTrust
north,
the
orange
street.
Again
it
just
brings
a
static
sparked.
It
has
more
of
an
ambience
that
there's
sidewalk,
cafes
or
there's
a
need.
I
think
that
people
really
like
it
also
ring
in
between
I.
J
F
J
Tap
house
and
the
new
building
where
the
old
barbecue
restaurant
was
I,
know
at
the
trucking
area.
So
we
had
to
get
creative
with
some
creative
poles
of
some
type
of
historic
pole,
but
to
do
some
lighting
along
that
area
too,
as
well
and
then
again
to
touch
base
on
the
lighting
the
trees.
It
would
be
on
long,
tarpon,
Avenue,
mother,
Mears
parking
lot,
Orange
Street
and
then
the
new
parking
lot
as
well,
where
we
could
find
some
up
lighting
for
the
trees
and
also
some
decorative
lighting.
Additional
signage
is
important
within
the
CRA.
J
That's
something
that's
been
discussed
now
for
the
past
couple
years.
If
it's
additional,
exciting
signage
off
the
bike
trail,
where
it
points
out
the
boutiques
or
breweries,
something
that
I
think
it
would
be
pretty
creative
and
it's
been
discussed
in
the
past
if,
where
I
was
in
the
board,
is
looking
at
an
arch
sign
that
goes
over
the
road
I
think
the
last
time
it
was
proposed,
it
was
proposes
to
go
over
tarpon
Avenue,
but
I
would
like
to
propose
it
to
go
over
the
bike,
trail
and
Safford,
and
between
currents
and
the
train
station.
J
J
Because
there's
concerns
about
the
roadway
the
way
the
roadway
goes
up
and
then
also
the
crosswalks
that
the
traffic
that
runs
east
and
west
and
tarpon
Avenue
goes
too
fast,
and
it's
not
a
four-way
stop.
So
they
can
not
see
the
pedestrians.
But
if
it's
put
over
the
bike
trail
there's
four
ways:
there
there's
a
two-way
stop
going
north
and
south,
and
then
we
wouldn't
I,
don't
think
we
would
have
the
same
issues
that
direction.
J
J
This
property
I
think
it's
time
to
remove
the
fence
and
add
some
grass
and
also
print
some
large
pictures
of
historic,
historic
downtown
and
put
on
some
poles
in
that
area
also
install
another
sign
on
the
front
of
the
property
that
shows
that
the
CRA
is
actively
looking
to
sell
this
property,
with
some
ideas
of
what
it
could
look
like,
install
a
couple,
large,
potted
palms
and
then
also.
How
are
we
marketing
this
property
continuing
to
be
some
questions?
J
J
Sitting
as
an
empty
lot,
there's
a
need
for
more
parking
still
in
downtown,
but
this
could
be
an
opportunity
where
we
go
to
go
to
mr.
caucus
and
ask
him
if
we
could
lease
the
property
from
the
CRA
perspective
additional
parking
when
the
events
are
happening
downtown.
It's
very
limited,
it's
hard
to
get
around
it's
hard
to
find
a
spot.
So
if
we
can
put
crushed
shell
out
in
that
piece
of
property
and
add
another
3040
spots,
I
think
it
would
be
rewarding
to
all
the
property
owners
within
downtown
again.
J
These
are
just
ideas
that
I'm
trying
to
get
out
there
for
discussions.
I
think
we
could
run
with
some
of
these
for
2020
a
couple
of
them
that
that
might
be
the
bigger
ideas
that
we
had
to
give
the
one
more
creative
about.
One
is
obviously
a
parking
garage,
I
think
would
be
a
good
idea
to
allocate
money
this
year
and
the
following
years
to
a
parking
garage
at
least
two
asset
fund
within
the
CRA
to
say:
we're
allocating
$100,000
in
2020
to
a
parking
garage,
the
following
you're,
allocating
250,000
or
something
along
as
I.
J
How
much
they
a
very
unique
slash,
a
dangerous
intersection
with
the
bike
trail
and
then
you've
got
cars
going
north
and
south
on
Sapir
and
you've
got
a
pretty
good,
east-west
traffic
on
tarpon
Avenue.
So
I
would
like
to
you
Lisa
evaluate
this
and
look
at
it
from
a
greenspace
perspective.
So
I'm
gonna
talk
about
four
different
spots
along
Stafford
Avenue.
The
first
one
is
tarpon
Avenue
South
to
court
Street.
That
goes
along
a
train
depot
and
to
where
the
court
Street
comes
out
on
to
Safford
Ave.
J
It
would
be
taking
that
portion
of
road
and
making
a
green
space
out
of
it,
and
that
would
propose
four
green
spaces
along
Safford
that
would
be
tarpon
have
South
to
court
Street.
Then
you
go
from
lemon
street
north.
That's
a
long,
Pinellas,
auto
in
front
of
Neptune's
in
front
of
Tula's
and
the
next
occurrence
so
lemon
to
North,
tarpon
Avenue.
J
And
then,
when
you
go
across
the
street,
you
would
go
from
tarpon
Avenue
to
the
SunTrust
exit
and
on
the
other
side,
you'd
go
from
Orange,
Street
south
to
tarpon
Avenue,
and
then
this
would
really
address
the
issues
that
we
have
at
this
intersection
to
me.
It's
a
dangerous
intersection
and
there's
still
a
need
to
have
more
green
space
within
downtown
tarpon.
It.
G
J
J
A
Commission
caller
I
agree
with
you.
It's
gonna
leave
that
to
the
end,
but
it's
a
good
time
to
talk
about
now.
The
see
around
you
see
our
CIP
new
project,
its
5e
as
the
five-year
plan,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
going
to
do
present
and
I
was
looking
for
the
consensus
of
the
board.
You
have
a
parking
garage
because
I
don't
think
the
CRA
gonna
be
enough
for
a
big
project
like
that.
Yeah.
J
A
A
Since
we're
talking
about
that
another
another
project
that
I
think
it
should
be
in
a
five-year
plan.
Yes,
you
have
the
a
ball
ramp
with
parking
recreation.
These
are
the
bore
amp
that
we
have
on
spring
on
the
South
Spring
Boulevard,
it's
not
doing
it
when
it
was
built.
It
was
only
for
small
boats.
Now
I
remember
were
16
or
17
floors
was
the
common
boat.
Now
you
have
one
city,
so
we
need
to
have
a
bull
ramp
with
parking
in
some
place
near
the
on
the
river
will
be.
A
A
A
Another
thing
is
a
Senior
Center,
that's
also
that
needs
to
be
placed
there
only
on
the
five-year
plan.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
we
have
many
seniors.
They
need
a
place
where
they
connect
together.
I,
don't
know
what
the
price
that
would
be
something
like
that
I
know
mr.
Lacovara,
an
idea.
How
can
we
accomplish
that
with
not
as
much
not
too
expensive?
You
want.
You
want.
C
To
talk
about
you
know
later,
let
me
just
say
about
the
five-year
plan
we've
got
if
you
look
at
the
penny
and
also,
as
I
said,
with
the
CRA,
this
budget
that
we're
working
on
now,
you
know
finishes
up
a
lot
of
things
and
we
have
creative
money
going
out
after
this
budget.
We're
trying
to
do
now,
I'm
to
look
at
all
these
things
by
time.
You
get
through
your
list.
We're
gonna
be
the
ten
million
dollars
out
an
hour.
You
know,
but
we
got
a
lot
of
time
to
sit
there.
C
Talk
about
five-year
plans,
talk
about
how
to
work
them
in.
You
know
talk
about
all
of
those
things,
but
again
that's
something
we
need
to
lay
out
and
those
monies
are
going
to
be
coming
available,
not
in
this
budget
coming
up,
but
in
the
budget
come
in
a
half
a
year.
Again,
if
you
look
at
the
bottom,
just
look
at
the
bottom
line
of
of
the
penny
for
Pinellas
one,
and
you
see
that
number
start
out
after
this
budget
the
next
year
at
about
two
million,
then
it
goes
up
to
three.
C
So
you've
got
a
lot
of
you've.
Got
a
lot
of
money
in
there
to
plan
your
your
five,
your
five
years
and
that's
going
to
take
probably
workshops
and
a
lot
of
time
to
do,
but
none
of
those
things
unless
you
wanted
to
start
them
and
you
don't
have
much
room
when
we're
going
back
to
our
to
our
sheets
and
stuff.
C
We
don't
have
room
to
start
in
those
in
this
budget,
we're
trying
to
finish
up
now
and
get
going
and
stuff,
but
we
need
to
have
extensive
talking
because
a
lot
of
things
we're
finishing
up
in
this
penny
penny
for
Pinellas
budget,
it's
been
things
either
budgeted
or
planned.
Five
six,
when
you
were
first
Commissioner
before
a
lot
of
these
things,
they're
going
up.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
things
to
get
on
that
list
of
those
years
and
stuff.
A
A
C
J
I've
got
a
question
about
the
CRA
if
I
can
come
back
to
that,
do
you
mind
there's
just
two
other
items:
I
want
to
talk
about
so
lighting
with
the
trees
along
tarp
and
a
half
and
mothers
of
mirrors,
and
that
was
something
that
was
discussed
in.
Another
item
wasn't
funded.
Yet
this
could
be
something
that's
funded
with
partial
CRA
funds
and
also
unassigned,
not
reserve
funds
but
unassigned
capital
funds.
So
I
know
that
was
a
discussion
that
the
board
came
to
consensus
on
earlier.
I
want
to
talk
about
another
one.
J
Real
quick
is
the
arch
over
the
we
were
year
when
I
talked
about
that
I
talked
about
the
board
before
I
was
elected,
talked
about
at
one
point,
putting
an
arch
over
Tarpon
Avenue.
It
said
like
tart,
welcome,
tarpon
springs
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
I
believe
it
wasn't
recommended
by
the
by
the
police
at
the
time,
because
I
said
your
eyes
are
distracted
to
go
to
that
and
it's
it
could
help
it
could
and
it
could
cause
pedestrian
safety
to
go
down
or
something
along
those
lines.
J
So
what
I
would
like
to
propose
is
doing
one
of
those
arches
over
Safford
Avenue
and
the
bike
trail
on
the
south
side
in
between
the
train
station
and
currents.
So
that
could
be
an
opportunity
to
me.
I
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
use,
because
to
remember
what
the
CRA
is
designed
for.
It's
designed
to
remove
blighted
properties
and
beautify
the
area
to
me,
that's
a
beautification
project
that
we
would
be
able
to
use,
and
it's
actually
a
bricks
and
mortar
type.
All
that
would
be
metal.
J
It's
a
permanent
thing
that
would
last
for
many
many
years
right.
So
those
were
a
couple
items
I
think
it
helped
beautify.
The
CRA
as
a
whole
would
be
the
lighting
in
the
trees
and
also
that
additional
archway
that
would
go
over
the
bike
trail.
You
can
have
a
sign
both
directions.
I
talked
about
historic
tarpon
springs
and
also
welcome
to
tarpon
springs
or
downtown
when
you're
coming
in
the
bike
trail
as
well.
J
C
Again
and
what
I
would
do
after
tonight's
meeting
from
what
I
heard,
obviously
with
25
thousand,
they
were
budgeting
right
now
to
do
the
study,
there's
fifty
thousand
for
miscellaneous
project
and
that
you
know
we're
plenty
of
time
to
talk
about
what
it
is
for
budget
purses
purposes.
There's
there's
fifty
thousand
there
for
any
project.
You
decide
and
we
come
to
the
consensus
to
do
during
the
next
budget
year.
Maybe.
H
I
I
N
A
O
Mean
we
did
just
kind
of
go
on
a
30-minute,
tangent
I
know
we
got
trouble
line
somewhere
and
get
down
the
the
agenda,
but
I
think
Commissioner,
Khare,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you're,
just
asking
for
consensus
on
on
two
points
that
you
brought
up
at
least
for
right
now.
Could
we
get
consensus
on
it.
N
J
N
N
G
J
J
C
C
You'll
see
the
only
thing
different
that
you're
gonna
see
well
you'll,
see
my
presentation
of
what
I
want
to
do
for
the
raises,
but
you're
also
gonna
see
the
only
real
developments
that
we're
gonna
do.
Obviously,
last
year
we
completed
and
I
think
we
had
20
items
under
we
had
a
lot
of
items
of
free
classes,
regrading
stuff.
The
only
thing
was
left
was
the
building
department
which
we
wanted
to
get
our
new
building
director
the
year
to
look
at
the
operation,
see
what
he
needs.
C
D
Yeah
I've
got
a
you
know
brief
couple
slides
here,
starting
out
with
a
salary
increase,
is
funded
in
a
2020
budget
at
3%,
with
benefits
for
the
general
employees,
police
and
fire
union
increases
funded
based
on
their
union
contracts.
The
total
city
funding
with
benefits
comes
to
four
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
$120.
The
reclassification
of
the
three
positions
funded
comes
to
fourteen
thousand
four.
D
Sixty
six
that
occludes
benefits
there
could
be
some
lump
sum
payments
funded
for
seven
employees
that
are
a
little
close
to
topping
out
that's
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
three
dollars:
one
new
tech
to
position
for
the
parks
department.
Forty
three
thousand
186
and
charter
positions
are
funded
within
the
three
percent
increase.
D
How
the
pay
increases,
if
you
currently
make
in
between
$12
an
hour
to
1325,
would
be
a
6%
increase.
Thirteen
2501
to
14
3045,
a
five
percent
increase
fourteen
thirty
forty
six
to
sixteen
fifty
five,
fifty
one,
a
4%
increase,
16
552
to
18
to
five
five,
two,
a
three
point:
five
percent
increase
and
above
eighteen
point
two
five:
five:
three,
a
three
percent
increase
and
this
slide
just
trying
to
show
how
many
people
are
getting
each
like
6%
increase.
D
We
got
16
people,
employees,
5%,
14,
4%,
36,
3.5%,
22
employees
and
124
employees
make
getting
a
3%
increase
and
down
below
and
yellow
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
number
of
full-time
employees
making
under
$15
an
hour
in
fiscal
year
2020
we
will
have
14
and
just
to
compare
back
to
2014.
We
had
80,
so
we've
decreased
it
by
66
employees,
and
that
is
my
last
slide
on
the
salaries.
C
Basically,
on
the
salaries,
what
we're
talking
about
again
we've
you
seen
this
plan
that
he's
graduated
as
the
last
four
years,
I
think
to
move
the
lower
salaries
up.
We
budgeted
3
percent
as
a
whole
for
the
city.
What
this
costs
with
paying
benefits
is
only
$22,000
bring
these
lower
salaries
up
you're,
not
talking
about
that
big
of
an
increase
from
the
3%
average.
We're
doing
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
people,
but
it's
not
it's
not
a
lot
we're
trying
to
get
to
that
livable
wage.
C
After
we
put
this
in
place,
our
starting
employee,
lowest,
our
employer
will
be
12
72
an
hour
and
again
we're
doing
it
in
such
a
way.
So
there's
not
compression
too
many
of
the
cities
that
are
trying
to
bump
up
and
get
to
the
mysterious.
You
know
the
norm
out
there
to
$15
an
hour.
A
lot
of
them
are
moving
their
salaries,
but
they're
not
handling
the
compression
of
the
people
who
are
there
and
higher
salaries.
Why
we've
been
doing
this
gradual
way?
C
This
gradual
way
of
doing
is,
plus
it's
not
a
lot
of
money
every
year
to
do
it
gradually
and,
as
you
see
as
we
continue
to
do,
it
will
be
up
to
that
level
in
no
time
and
this
plan,
for
instance,
only
cost
$22,000
above
what
we
said
for
a
three
percent
average
there's
a
three
percent
average
for
everybody
in
the
city,
along
with
$22,000,
to
bring
those
people
on
the
bottom
end
of
the
salary
up
and
to
not
compress
on
the
thing.
These
were
done
with
everybody
where
their
salary
was
were
these
brakes.
C
If
you
asked
what's
the
significance
of
where
it's
broke,
get
some
breaks,
we
had
between
employees,
we're
a
wooden
compress
on
them,
so
we're
kind
of
looking
for
the
breaking
points
where
you
can
move
it
up
and
not
compress
so
pretty
much
it's
it's.
It's
a
good
method
to
bring
those
lower
salaries
up,
and
it
was
not
costly
as
far
as
I
think
on
the
sheet
that
you
have
here
that
this
comes
back
to
couldn't.
C
Remember
I
bring
this
to
a
regular
Commission
meeting,
which
will
probably
be
the
same
when
I
bring
the
salaries
and
the
rege
raids
and
stuff
that
has
to
be
done
in
a
regular
Commission
meeting.
So
this
is
all
coming
back
to
you
at
a
regular
Commission
meeting.
That's
my
go
over
it
fast,
because
you've
got
another
chance
at
the
at
me
when
we
come
and
bring
that
forward.
So
we
can
have
more
discussions.
C
If
you
have
then-
and
you
know,
we
can
wait
and
have
discussion
with
the
building
director,
then
because
it
has
to
come
back
to
regular
board
meeting
or
you
can
do
it
real
fast
now,
but
the
reclassification
czar
are
within
his
division
and
we're
what
titles
and
what
he
needs
within
there.
The
only
additional
position
is
because
one
of
the
positions
that's
been
working,
assisting
building
was
Tom's
and
the
one
only
additional
position
we
got
on.
C
C
Keep
our
plant
the
expansion
of
the
plants
and
shrubbery
and
pots
that
we're
gonna
hang
that's
strictly
a
person
we
have
to
need.
Could
we
do
not
have
the
people
within
to
do
that?
Part
of
the
person
Kevin's
taking
over
his
division
was
assisting
with
some
of
that,
along
with
being
the
arborist,
along
with
doing
the
projects
we're
giving
him
that
position.
C
So
we're
gonna
have
exclusively
one
position,
which
is
the
new
position
to
be
actually
dealing
with
all
the
beautification
in
plants
we
did
and
that
that's
all
there
is,
and
the
regrade
and
classifications
as
I
said
last
year
is
probably
17
of
them.
There's
only
those
in
the
building
department.
Again,
he
can
explain
all
those
to
you,
but
since
this
has
to
come
back
to
the
Commission
meaning
to
do,
he
can
do
it,
then
that
are
now
in
the
sake
of
time,
if
you
want
it's
up
to
the
board.
A
H
A
A
C
C
N
Have
several
questions
too
and
I?
Don't
really
want
to
take
the
time
tonight.
I
think
because
I
did
have
some
questions
about
some
reclassifications
other
than
what
we
have
listed
here,
which
Pro
come
back
to
the
board.
I
I
was
also
going
to
question
something
on
cultural
services.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
do
this
now
or
I'll
discuss
it
with
you
mark
and.
C
I
I
O
J
C
Again,
they're
all
related
to
the
changes
in
the
in
the
building,
so
Kevin's
also
a
good
one
to
talk
to,
because
all
the
I
mean
we
did
almost
every
other
department.
The
last
three
years
we
did
almost
every
department
in
reorg
three
classes
and
everything,
so
he
was
the
one
left
we
wanted
to
get.
We
want
to
give
him
the
time
to.
A
R
C
R
Okay,
so
a
couple
position,
changes
or
retitling
positions,
some
of
them
are
pretty
simple:
it's
just
changing
the
name
from
development
services
to
building
development
department.
Since
building
development
services
no
longer
exists,
so
we've
got
two
positions
that
are
just
really
a
title:
change
out
of
those
I've
got
one
of
the
permit
Tech's
that
I'm
moving
up
to
a
LEED
permit
tech,
which
would
be
a
permit
tech
number
two
and
the
other
two
positions
would
be
a
permit
tech,
one
that
have
no
change
to
them
in
pay.
R
The
the
old
development
services
coordinator
position
is
going
to
be
changed
to
the
floodplain
coordinator.
Very
important
position
within
the
department
is
the
floodplain
coordinator,
they're,
the
ones
who
is
overseeing
all
of
our
floodplain
management,
assisting
and
lowering
our
score,
which
they
have
done
for
our
CRS
points,
we're
just
waiting
on
the
official
letter
from
FEMA
to
come
in.
R
The
arborist
has
been
in
our
department
working
with
us
moving
that
position
over
there
full
time
and
becoming
the
municipal
arborist
taking
on
that
role,
along
with
the
environmental,
silt
fence
and
erosion
control,
bear
barriers
of
trees
for
new
construction
projects,
pretty
much
overseeing
tree
bank
funds
and
city
projects
as
far
as
tree
tree
placement
and
and
plantings
and
stuff.
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
quick
over
brief
of
of
what
I
proposed
to
do
in
the
department.
R
That
is
comparable,
there's
actually
a
little
under
about
maybe
a
paid
grade
under
of
what
you
would
get
in
Dunedin
or
safety
Harbor.
One
of
those,
so
I
did
look
at
the
surrounding
areas
for
what
a
City
arborist
or
municipal,
arborists
or
urban
forester
makes
in
the
area.
She
also
does
our
erosion
control
make
sure
that
those
are
in
place
and
also
she's
our
drone
pilot
too.
So
all
of
the
projects
that
we
have
with
the
drone
she's
flying
that
also
so
she
it's
got
an
expanded
role
as
more
than
just
an
arborist.
A
J
Met
with
both
Chiefs
yeah
received
detailed
information
about
both
of
them
and
elements
of
support,
as
is
the
budget
Advisory
Board
was
in
support
of
overtime.
It
is
a
big
number
I'm
just
sticker
shock,
but
after
going
in
the
detail
about
the
need
and
how
it
all
works
and
state
statutes
and
other
requirements
involved,
I'm
able
to
get
behind
that
and
support
it.
A
D
Just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
budget
from
me,
the
one
you
saw
and
accepted
on
July
16th
to
today,
total
city
budget
proposed
back
in
July
16th
was
63
million,
962
370,
and
currently
it's
on
August
12th
at
63
million
eight
hundred
forty
six
thousand
$44
a
decrease
of
one
hundred.
Sixteen
thousand
326.
D
And
just
wanted
to
go
over
the
main
reasons
for
the
decrease
health
insurance.
We
budget
a
10%
increase,
it's
currently
coming
in
at
9%.
So
in
the
green
on
the
right,
it's
a
35,000
for
81
decrease
dental
insurance,
we
to
10%
estimate
actual
increase
is
3.9
percent,
so
it's
a
decrease
as
7650
$6
life
insurance.
So
there
was
no
increase,
but
there
was
a
plan
change
going
from
25,000
to
50,000.
So
it's
an
increase
in
the
yellow
of
twenty
three
thousand
to
fifty
six
biggest
surprise
was
workers
compensation
we
did.
D
Budget
at
increase
of
10
percent
actual
is
a
deep
decrease
of
fifteen
point,
seven
percent,
so
we've
got
one
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
eight
sixty
of
a
decrease
from
what
we
budgeted
originally
for
workers
comp
and
then
down
below.
We've
got
the
technician
to
position
funded
at
forty
three,
forty
three
thousand
one,
eighty,
six,
the
reclassification.
Where
we're
talking
about
the
three
positions,
salary
and
benefits.
Fourteen
thousand
four
sixty
six:
the
scanner
was
removed
from
the
city
clerk
Department,
ten
thousand
and
the
general
fund
available
amount
of
money
went
up.
D
Eighty
eight
thousand
seven,
ninety
five
and
some
other
revenue
adjustments,
eleven
thousand
and
then
just
going
down
the
line,
the
safer
grant,
the
CRA
fund,
sanitation
fund
water
and
sewer
fund
marina
fund
all
the
way
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
the
same
number
as
expenditures
or
revenues,
justments
of
one
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
326
and
the
last
slide
just
concentrating
on
the
general
fund
expenditure
of
revenue,
adjustments
from
July
16th
to
now
the
general
fund
portion
health
insurance,
decreased,
32,000
821,
dental
insurance
decreased,
five
thousand
eight.
Ninety
life
insurance
increase.
D
Fourteen
thousand
eight
forty,
nine
workers
compensation
decrease,
a
hundred,
eight
thousand
eight
twenty
two
new
position
and
the
parks.
Forty
three
thousand
186,
the
reclassification
those
three
positions
are
in
the
general
fund.
Fourteen
thousand
four
sixty
six,
the
millage
rate,
decrease
from
five
point.
D
Four:
two
to
five
point:
three:
seven:
eighty,
eight
thousand
seven,
ninety
five,
some
other
revenue
adjustments,
eleven
thousand
and
the
net
expenditure
and
revenue
adjustments
of
2763,
which
I
added
on
to
the
general
fund
available
bounce
we
had
and
July
16th
of
one
hundred
twenty
thousand
or
fifty
three
leaves
a
general
fund
of
available
balance
on
August
12th
of
a
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
eight.
Sixteen-
and
that's
my
last
slide
on
that.
Just
giving
you
an
update
on
from
the
previous
session
to
this
one
where
we
are
currently
total
city
and
a
general
fund.
There.
O
O
He
gave
me
it
for
the
last
ten
years:
oh
nine,
through
2011.
We
gave
nothing
back
to
the
community
or
to
some
of
the
county.
The
county
programs
like
Pinellas,
County,
Homeless
Board.
That's
almost
leadership
board
that
sort
of
thing
2012
to
2014.
We
gave
$10,000
2015.
We
gave
seventy
one
thousand
dollars,
but
that's
because
it
includes
the
incentive
grants
the
facade
grants
we
talked
about
earlier
2016.
We
gave
ten
thousand
2017,
we
gave
eleven
thousand
2018,
we
gave
eighteen
thousand
and
then
this
past
year
were
back
to
ten
thousand.
O
O
Gonna
have
opportunities
here
in
the
near
future
to
do
a
better
job
of,
but
I
believe
that
the
money
is
there
just
to
increase
it
by.
You
know
a
few,
a
few
thousand
dollars
here
and
there
just
to
buy
back
into
our
community
and
support
our
community
in
the
ways
that
other
cities
support
theirs.
So
I
think
we're
gonna
have
some
opportunities
in
the
future
to
do
so,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
fact
that
other
cities
are
also
making
this
a
priority.
And
it's
it's
not
like
we're.
An
outlier.
O
It
it
is
I
guess
the
message
is
because
the
agenda
are
the
agenda
for
tomorrow
does
include
the
jr.
spongers
football
which,
which
I
put
on
there.
I've
talked
to
mark
about
it,
just
that
just
this
past
week
and
actually
mr.
city
manager,
if
you
want
to
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
history
about
kind
of
our
involvement,
our
donations
to
that
organization,
if
you
think.
C
We
have
been
involved
in
the
past,
specially
with
the
police
department,
cops
and
kids
when
we
were
able
to
use
drug
confiscated
money
for
that.
We
used
to
fund
them
about
twenty-five
hundred
dollars
a
year
and
what
they're
specifically
funded
for
was
for
scholarships
for
the
kids
who
didn't
afford.
So
we
have
a
history
that,
unfortunately,
the
federal
government
changed
their
criteria
and
told
us
we
could
not
use
that
anymore.
It
kind
of
went
a
bit.
C
We
have
had
some
cases
and
that
list
that
you
got
where
we
have
some
donation
money
from
people
in
the
thing
that
we
we've
given
them,
I
think
two
thousand
and
one
thousand
sporadically
on
there.
But
the
city
does
have
a
history,
whether
it's
in
the
police
department,
cops
and
kids
program
or
or
within
the
budget
of
assistant,
because
of
all
the
different
sports
leagues
that
you
deal
with.
C
O
Yeah,
that's
that's!
All
I
had
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
touch
on
it
before
we
finished
up
tonight.
Just
that
you
know
our
our
grants
need,
but
budget
can
be
increased
very
easily
so
but
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
have
any
questions
specifically
as
tonight,
and
we
can
get
to
it
tomorrow,
night
all
more
details
for
you,
but
I,
just
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
it
and
mention
how
you
know
our
surrounding
cities
making
a
priority
as
well.
C
And
just
the
other
thing,
so
we
can
prepare
for
the
third
budget
meeting
and
stuff.
You
see
what
we've
got
up
there.
We've
already
got
a
list
of
some
things
that
we've
seen
we'd
like
put
back
into
the
possibly
put
back
in
the
budget
in
some
way.
There's
some
again
what
we
talked
about
tomorrow
night,
with
the
grant
that
maybe
10,000
that'll
be
gonna,
be
on
the
list
to
bring
back
what
I'll
probably
do.
C
The
third
one
is
bring
a
list
of
all
those
things
you
thought
about
putting
back
and
then
you
decided
from
there
are
there
any
more
that
we
haven't
talked
about
tonight,
so
I
compiled
all
this
again,
there
may
be
some
budget
adjustments.
We
may
get
some
other
good
news.
The
workman's
comp
was
well,
it's
probably
the
best
news.
We
got
cuz
thats,
pretty
much
financed
your
millage
rate
drop
that
kind
of
made
up
for
that.
That
was
a
extreme
surprise.
C
We
know
we've
been
trying
to
do
good
in
the
workman's
comp
area
and
stuff
I,
don't
know
if
the
luck
of
the
draw
or
not,
but
we
never
expected
to
have
such
a
good
rapport.
A
good
year
and
that
money
was
was
not
expected
that
helps
fund
a
lot
of
things,
but
is
the
Wraiths
again
media
budget
wise
for
this
budget
here
that
we
have
to
look
at
besides
the
thing
mentioned,
I
have
on
the
list,
the
ten
thousand
that
we're
very
talk
about
tomorrow
night.
C
Is
there
anything
else
we
are
looking
at
specifically
from
the
Commission
aspect
to
looking
and
we're
looking
at
the
pot
of
money
we
got
and
what
we
might
want
to
do
with
that
pot
of
money
there
to
add
into
this
budget.
Like
I
said,
the
budget
is
dynamic.
That
goes
the
whole
year,
so
that
doesn't
mean
something
to
be
changed,
something
to
be
added
and
subtracted
in
October
November
December
throughout
the
year.