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B
B
A
This
evening's
invocation
will
be
given
by
Reverend
Milton
Smith,
who
is
the
chaplain
for
our
fire
department
and
police
departments,
and
after
the
invocation,
we
will
stand
and
turn
and
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag.
Reverend
Smith.
C
Let
us
pray
Lord,
we
come
thanking
you
for
this
wonderful
day.
We
thank
you
for
this
night
that
we
gather
with
the
city
commission
that
they
may
make
decisions
concerning
our
city.
We
ask
that
you
will
grant
them
wisdom
and
knowledge.
We
ask
you
not
only
bless
them
but
to
bless
all
the
city
staff,
our
city
manager
and
police
and
fire
departments
is
be
with
them
as
they
watch
over
our
well-being.
We
pray
Lord
for
all
the
citizens
of
Tarpon
Springs
visit.
C
D
A
Okay,
before
we
get
started,
I
have
a
couple
of
announcements
this
evening
our
City
attorney
is
Mariana
galastegi
of
Eunice
and
salesman.
I
think
this
will
be
the
last
evening
that
you'll
have
with
us.
Is
that
correct,
as.
A
Right
also,
we've
got
three
items
that
we've
deferred
items
9A,
which
is
having
to
do
with
our
Land
Development
code.
It's
ordinance,
2022-22
application
22-107
has
to
do
with
annexations,
that's
been
deferred
to
a
future
date
to
be
determined,
also,
items
11
and
12
item
11
is
ordinance,
2022-31
amending
the
charter,
strategic
plan,
implementation
and
budget
priorities,
a
second
reading
for
that
will
be
deferred
to
December,
30,
13
2022,
and
also
ordinance
2022-34
designation
of
floodplain
administrator
second
reading
that
will
be
deferred
to
December
13th
2022.
A
F
My
name
is
Rick
knightons
I
live
at
809,
Peninsula
Road
in
Tarpon,
and
what
I
realize
there's
a
number
of
pressing
matters
here,
but
I'm
wondering
if
the
city's
ever
considered
the
idea
of
installing
an
outdoor
pickleball
Accords
for
those?
Hopefully,
everyone
here
is
familiar
with
the
sport,
but
I
just
thought.
I'd
ask
the
question.
A
G
Yes,
there's
nothing,
nothing
in
the
works
right
now,
but
it's
something
that
we
have
on
topic
to
discuss
in
the
future.
I
think
the
think
the
rec
Advisory
Board
is
coming
in
January
for
for
it
to
bring
a
presentation
about
it
to
the
commission.
Oh
okay,
all
right
so
watch
for
it
on
one
of
the
agendas
of
January,
where
our
record
Advisory
Board
wants
to
make
a
presentation
on
it.
Okay,.
A
H
D
A
H
Name
is
John
colianos,
1020,
Peninsula
Avenue
I
want
to
thank
the
citizens
of
Tarpon
for
allowing
me
to
be
the
next
commissioner
elect
unopposed,
so
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
an
odd
thing,
I'm
thanking
them
for
not
putting
anybody
else
up
against
me,
but
whatever
that's
worth
so
the,
but
the
last
couple
weeks
have
been
amazing
in
Tarpon.
You
know:
we've
had
so
many
things
going
on.
H
H
The
last
week,
along
with
the
downtown
tree
lighting
the
dock
Sponge
Docks
tree
lighting,
we
had
a
huge
attendance
on
Friday
evening
with
the
snow
for
the
kids.
We
had
the
boat
parade,
we
had
vendors
all
over
the
place.
The
town
was
just
amazing,
so
we
live
in
an
amazing,
wonderful
place
and
and
on
Saturday
we
had
the
golf
cart
parade.
H
So
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone.
I
know
we
pick
at
certain
things
that
we
may
not
like
in
town,
we
find
things
always
to
be
upset
about,
but
we've
got
a
just
Bountiful
amount
of
things
to
be
happy
about,
and
a
special
thanks
to
the
merchants
for
putting
on
all
these
events
that
we
have
all
weekend
long
and
Mark
your
staff
I
know
you
don't
get
a
whole
lot
of
credit
when
things
go
right,
but
you're
you
and
your
staff
did
an
amazing
job
this
weekend.
Thank.
I
Good
evening,
mayor
and
Commissioners
Robert
rockline
755
North
Lake
Boulevard
here
in
toppin,
I'll
Echo.
What
was
just
stated,
we
just
passed,
Thanksgiving
and
and,
like
I,
think
the
intent
of
the
previous
speaker
was.
We
have
a
lot
to
be
thankful
for
here,
so
we
can
see
the
glass
full
or
half
empty
or
half
full,
but
I
prefer
the
optimistic
view.
Lots
of
events
here,
lots
of
holiday,
decorations,
downtown
the
place,
looks
phenomenal.
I
It
extends
here
across
the
board
and
even
to
some
of
the
board
members
who
are
lit
up
themselves,
but
really
really
nice
to
see
and
really
gives
you
a
good
Hometown
feeling.
I
also
want
to
comment
positively
about
the
road
work.
That's
been
on
top
and
Avenue.
For
the
past
few
weeks
it's
been
handled
phenomenally
I
think
there's
zero
impact
that
I've
witnessed
and
I'm
up
and
down
it
several
times
a
day,
generally
so
kudos
to
the
to
the
staff
and
to
the
workers
out
there
in
the
field.
I
The
only
comment
I
have
of
concern
is
this
has
been
brought
up
several
times
just
than
the
last
I
want
to
say
month
or
two
to
me,
and
it's
it's
unfortunately,
something
I've
seen
before
is
a
public
parking
concern
in
our
downtown
areas,
both
the
Sponge
Docks
and
the
and
the
Tarpon
Avenue
downtown.
This
is
almost
Universal
among
downtowns.
You
know
everywhere,
and
sometimes
it's
because
we're
the
victim
of
our
own
success,
which
is
a
good
thing.
I
However,
you
you
know,
you
need
a
carton
of
eggs
to
put
the
Dozen
in
so
to
speak
and
sometimes
13
doesn't
fit
so
I
know,
there's
a
lot
going
on
right
now
in
the
in
the
city.
Internally,
perhaps
when
that
gets
smoothed
out
a
little
bit,
we
can
have
a
committee
or
something
to
look
at
the
possibilities
to
expand
our
public
parking.
I
never
have
a
problem.
I
could
park,
attract
the
trailer
behind
you
there.
That's
just
the
way
I
was
brought
up
in
in
Manhattan,
but
for
special
events.
I
I
know
it's
it,
there's
a
bit
of
an
overflow
and
a
lot
of
circulation
and
the
streets
narrow
very
quickly.
So
it's
not
so
much
the
special
events,
but
it's
planning
for
our
future.
Now,
while
we
have
the
opportunity,
rather
than
wishing
we
did
five
or
ten
years
from
now
so
I
just
ask
you
to
give
that
thought.
Thank.
A
J
Water
contrivance
has
been
a
misapplication
of
law,
as
used
in
this
this
court
case
and
then
I
denounce
such
misappropriate
legal
conduct.
Furthermore,
the
reclaimed
water
variance
application
clearly
states
that
the
Apple
applicant,
the
homeowner,
literally
owes
their
health,
their
safety
and
their
religious
convictions.
The
reclaimed
water
variances
attempting
to
remove
any
liability
from
any
Airborne
diseases
that
may
prove
fatal
to
the
inhabitants
of
this
land.
J
Furthermore,
the
reclaimed
water
variance
is
in
violation
of
the
First
Amendment
of
the
U.S
Constitution
as
written
therein.
The
variance
violates
Florida
State
Constitution
Article
1
Section
3
and
is
a
violation
of
Pinellas
County
Home
Rule
Charter,
section
2.2
e
and
claiming
that
I
literally
owe
my
religious
convictions
in
light
of
this
variant
application
even
more
so
the
reclaimed
water
variants
is
claiming
eminent
domain
rights
of
civilian-owned
properties
in
statute,
15303,
Section
5
upon
such
inappropriate
legal
measures
reclaimed
water,
fails,
reclaimed.
J
K
K
There's
a
lot
of
funny
stuff
going
on
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
the
clerks
office,
Ken
Burke,
but
they
decided
to
act
as
if
clay
didn't
have
this
Indigent
status
thing,
which
is
clearly
in
writing
and
it
was
approved
by
the
courts
and
so
on
anyway.
They're
playing
some
games
with
it,
but
that
just
delays
it
even
more,
but
the
the
appeal
is
sent.
K
So
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
looking
into
it
or
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
solve
this
problem,
but
it
is
a
solvable
problem,
so
it's
can
always
give
them
a
call,
speaking
of
which
the
Morgan
group
contacted
Mr
Coulson
three
times,
calling
him
begging
him
to
talk
to
him.
So
what
does
that
tell?
K
You
sounds
like
they're,
pretty
scared
we're,
finally
starting
to
figure
it
out,
so
I,
don't
know
what
they
were
going
to
do
or
they're
going
to
threaten
him
or
bribe
him
or
try,
and
you
know
build
them
for
information.
Of
course,
Mr
coulson's
not
silly
enough
to
call
these
people
I
mean
they're,
not
even
a
party
to
the
lawsuit
it's
between
you
and
and
hymns
between
Mr
Coulson
and
the
City
of
Tarpon
Springs.
K
At
this
point
they
were
never
adjoined
illegally,
even
though
they
seem
to
think
that
they
are
so
there's
that
then
there's
the
bizarre
case
of
the
Facebook
Persona
alexandru
was
sued
by
the
former
attorney
for
the
city
of
Tarpon.
Springs,
very
bizarre,
very
bizarre.
What
would
they
gain?
What
did
they
seek
to
gain
from
this?
K
K
It
was
mostly
about
the
Morgan
group
and
about
city
employees,
so
it's
seems
like
they're
doing
the
bidding
of
the
Morgan
group
more
than
they're
doing
anything
for
themselves,
but
I
guess
we'll
find
out
have
no
idea.
What's
going
on
I'd
like
to
know,
because
that's
the
craziest
thing
I've
ever
seen,
but
at
least
it's
costing
them
money
and
they
can't
bill
you
for
it.
Hopefully
they
didn't
I
haven't
checked
the
latest
invoice
from
them,
but
hopefully
they're
not
charging
the
city
for
this
tomfoolery
so
I
know
the
concerned.
K
Citizens
have
some
avenues
that
they
can
take
in
their
case
to
protect
the
74
acres
and
I'm
sure
that
they
will
proceed
with
that.
So
again
it
all
comes
back
down
to
this
is
taking
a
long
time
and
it's
not
because
of
anything
that
we're
doing.
This
is
the
way
the
court
system
works,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
the
court
system
might
move
slowly,
but
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
moves
even
more
slowly
and
that's
what
they're
up
against.
K
A
Mr
robotsky
Mr
robertsky
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
your
comments
in
reference
to
Mr
Colson,
you
mentioned
the
clerks
could
you're
talking
about
the
clerk.
A
L
You
got
to
tell
your
staff
the
recreation
department,
all
those
guys
and
girls
in
the
orange
vest
and
the
event
staff
people.
They
were
the
yellow,
vests
I,
don't
know
if
they
were
hired
hands,
but
they
did
an
excellent
job
on
First,
Friday,
so
kudos
to
the
city
for
putting
on
an
event
that
there
must
have
been
at
least
5
000
people
there.
L
L
Those
of
us
here
in
our
quaint
little
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
that
is
getting
gobbled
up,
gobbled
up,
gobbled
up,
gobbled
up,
gobbled
up,
you're,
going
to
hear
a
presentation
about
another
big
gobble
up,
we'll
speak
then
later,
but
I
want
to
point
something
out
on
the
Sunday
of
November
27th
Saint
Pete
times
did
a
really
nice
job.
First
off
they
had
an
article
about
the
poisoning
of
all
the
owls
and
actually
some
Eagles.
There
was
an
eagle
at
Fort
Desoto
that
they
determined
had
been
affected
by
rhododendocide
another
article
California
tortoises,
moving
toward
Extinction.
L
Why
saving
them
is
so
hard?
Why
is
saving
them
so
hard
because
we
keep
developing
their
land
in
the
Floridian
about
the
24
places
that
UNESCO
has
declared
world
heritage
places
and
some
of
them
are
within
driving
distance
of
here,
but
the
one
that
was
kind
of
the
one
most
interesting
is
this
in
the
perspective
from
Craig
Pittman.
If
you
remember
he
was
the
environmental
nature,
writer
for
the
Tampa
Bay
times
for
years
before
they
cut
back
five
ways
to
fix
Florida
and
I'm.
L
L
N
A
Well,
many
of
them
are
not
sponsored
they're
they're,
they
get
permitted
by
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
but
they're
they're
sponsored
by
other
organizations,
and
if
you
would
like
to
come
in-
and
we
can
give
you
a
further
explanation-
yes,.
O
A
Far
as
who's
responsible
for
them
and
you
can
communicate
with
them,
The
Merchants
Association
is
one.
The
Tarpon
Springs
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
another
and
I'm,
not
sure
I.
P
N
A
A
Understand
if,
if
you'd
like,
to
give
us
a
call,
the
number
there's
a
card
out
there
on
the
table
with
all
the
phone
numbers
on
it,
it's
got
my
phone
number
on
it
too.
Okay,.
Q
S
1482
Hillview
Lane
one
thing
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
week
is
I,
don't
know
if
you
saw
about
what
happened
in
North
Carolina
with
the
Transformer
vandalism,
but
how
our
power
grid
is
is
not
the
most
resilient
as
it
could
be,
and
I
every
day
when
I
drive,
past
U.S,
19
and
Tarpon
I
can
only
think
that
putting
a
gas
station
next
to
a
major
Transformer
location
is
an
unacceptable
stacking
of
risks
that
it's
just
like
long
term.
It
doesn't
make
sense.
S
I
I,
also
think
about
the
gas
station,
that's
on
Alt,
19
and
Tarpon,
which
exasperates
me,
because
if
you
don't
know
pretty
often
the
towns
get
their
main
streets
burnt
down.
It
happened
here
like
in
the
20s
I
think
it
happens.
It
happened
everywhere
in
the
20s
everyone's
Main
Street
gets
burnt
down.
I
I
really
want
us
to
consider
the
context
of
like
Tarpon
Springs,
like
as
a
city.
Now
it's
almost
only
now
starting
to
become
a
real
entity
and
settlement
based
on
the
past
150
years.
S
It's
a
it's
a
place
because
people
keep
living
there
I
think
about
what
it
means
to
continue
into
the
future
as
a
settlement
and
as
a
city
and
as
a
community,
and
we
can't
just
think
about
10
years
20
years,
it's
we
can't
use
our
current
ways
of
thinking
in
our
current
data
to
really
plan
for
that
I
I
think
the
sea
level
rise
is
an
inevitability,
so
we
have
to
accept
that
the
water
table
is
going
to
come
up
and
salinity
is
going
to
increase
further
the
whole
Estuary
is
going
to
move,
so
we
might
as
well
be
preparing
now
with
some
of
the
more
long-term
work
of
restoring
as
many
Wetlands
as
we
can,
especially
along
the
river,
a
war
on
what
would
a
war
on
red
tide?
S
What
would
a
war
on
pollution?
Look
like
it
would
look
like
densification
any
place
that
is
unoccupied
abandoned
is
a
big
parking.
Lot
is
not
just
a
waste
of
our
resources,
but
a
major
liability
in
terms
of
polluting
our
water,
because
it
doesn't
it's
just
all
runoff
when
any
any
place
that
is
empty
should
either
be
occupied
or
used
for
something
literally
anything.
S
The
city
can
be
brought
together,
denser
and
then
more
of
the
land
can
be
used
in
bioproductive
ways,
either
for
carbon
sequestration
or
literally
just
the
beauty
of
nature
and
the
health
benefits,
and
everything
would
be
much
nicer.
We
can't
be
a
settlement
as
a
fishing
City
if
our
river
is
degraded,
because
we
don't
figure
out
how
to
keep
boats
from
tearing
it
up
too
much.
The
clear
and
navigable
waterways
is
a
pretty
important
thing.
S
If
our
we
continue
allowing
more
chemical
and
just
mysterious
pollution,
we
have
to
think
about
like
outlawing
the
rodenticides
that
might
kill
our
Birds
outlawing
certain
things
that
might
run
off
and
kill
whatever
we
have
in
the
river.
If
we're
going
to
keep
feeding
ourselves,
we
should
consider
that,
and
also
perhaps
a
food
growing
program
where
people
can
grow
the
tomatoes
they
use
in
the
restaurants.
I,
don't
know,
Tomatoes
didn't
exist
in
Greek
cuisine
until
they
were
brought
from
the
Americas
and
really
weren't
incorporated
into
like
the
late
1800s.
A
City
manager,
the
course
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
special
presentation
concerning
the
educational
lift
station
display
I'm,
going
to
turn
that
over
to
you
to
make
the
introductions.
Yes,.
G
Obvious
tonight,
as
you
see
on
the
agenda,
we
have
most
of
the
meeting
in
public
hearings
which
can't
start
till
7
30..
Obviously
you
can't
tell
where
citizens
Commons
going,
but
we
figured
we'd
have
elapse
of
time.
So
we
thought
we'd
bring
something
that
we're
very
proud
of,
and
luckily
Paulie
you've
got
about
10
to
15
minutes
and
leave
enough
time
for
the
few
consent
agenda
items
and
presented
as
something
we're
very
proud
of.
G
It
involves
some
gentleman
that
I
know
in
this
community
knows,
since
they
were
little
boys
because
they
grew
up
there.
Now
they're
big
men
and
they're
here,
contributing
to
us
and
we're
very
proud
of
them,
and
we're
very
proud
of
this
project
that
they
did
so
I'll
turn
it
to
you
to
introduce
them
and
and
have
them
show
what
they
did.
T
Good
evening,
Paul
Smith,
Public,
Services,
director
and
I'm,
as
the
city
manager,
said,
I'm
proud
to
introduce
this
special
presentation
by
staff.
This
is
recognition
of
staff
that
they
worked
on
this
display
behind
us
here
and
also
have
been
doing
and
will
continue
to
do
public
presentations
to
schools,
Etc
career
fairs,
that
sort
of
thing
to
get
the
word
out
on
what
utilities
do
and
how
important
they
are
and
also
possibly
bring
us
some
some
good
utility
workers
in
the
future.
T
We
have
salvas
amorginos
the
Wastewater
collection,
Tech,
2
and
Michael
sirucus
utilities,
maintenance,
mechanic
too,
and
with
that
I'll
just
give
you
a
brief
intro.
What
this
is.
It's
part
of
our
ongoing
efforts
to
increase
public
awareness
of
the
importance
of
utilities
infrastructure,
and
we
want
to
share
this
with
the
board
as
a
brief
staff
presentation
to
represent
this
teaching
tool
that
we
plan
to
use
as
a
public
display
and
for
utility
career
events.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
guys.
U
U
We've
made
a
little
home
with
a
little
toilet,
which
represents
the
lateral
line
that
goes
to
the
manhole
structure
itself,
and
I
can
actually
turn
that
on
right
now
to
show
you
representation
of
the
toilet,
flushing
and
that
will
lead
down
to
the
pumping
station
or
as
we
call
lift
stations,
and
there
is
a
pump
with
guide
rails
or
Riser
pipe
floats
a
float
alarm.
U
There's
a
full
entry
for
the
lift
station.
There's
an
entry
for
the
manhole.
It's
definitely
a
real
small
scale
to
represent
what
it
actually
is.
It's
a
really
good
teaching
tool.
We
took
it
to
the
Great
American
teaching
for
Plato
Academy
here
in
Tarpon,
the
kids
really
enjoyed
it.
Even
the
teachers
said
that
they
were
very
impressed
and
did
not
know
how
Wastewater
collections
really
works.
U
U
So
we
used
a
little
Bluetooth
devices
that
I
can
control
through
an
app
through
my
phone.
We
use
scada
on
the
field
and
it
kind
of
just
represents
the
way
we
use
our
systems
after
it
leaves
the
force
man.
It
goes
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
which
in
turn
gets
recycled
and
reused
as
reclaimed
water,
and
we
also
have
a
little
board
over
here.
That
shows
things
you
should
and
shouldn't
do
with
your
Wastewater
collections
things
you
should
and
shouldn't
flush,
I'm
sure
everybody's
heard
the
whole
theory
of
the
flushable
wipes.
U
A
U
We
were
just
kind
of
interested
in
doing
something
for
the
Great
American
teach-in
and
we
reached
out
to
our
supervisors,
I
reached
out
to
Ray
Page
and
Mr
Smith,
and
they
came
up
with
an
idea
of
why
can't
we
make
a
model
and
they
said
just
run
with
it
and
do
something.
So
that's
what
we
came
up
with.
U
A
U
They
loved
it
and
it's
actually
helped
adults
as
well.
People
don't
know
what
happens
with
your
Wastewater
after
you
flush
your
toilet
or
use
your
washer
use
your
sink
it.
It
just
goes
down
the
drain,
they
don't
know
yeah
and
once
they
see
the
underground
aspect
of
it,
they
understand
a
little
better.
U
A
Let
me
turn
it
over
to
the
other
Commissioners
and
see
if
they've
got
any
questions
and
then,
if
I'm
going
to
ask
the
residents
too,
if
you
have
any
questions,
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
time.
Vice
mayor
alone,
no
questions,
commissioner
yeah.
V
I
just
got
a
couple
comments.
I
think
it's
a
great
what
you
all
did.
Thank
you
so
much
for
educating
the
younger
residents
at
Tarpon
Springs,
it's
great
to
educate
the
younger
ones
that
grow
up
and
then
hopefully
take
that
with
them
and
educate
their
friends
also
and
family
when
they
go
home
because
you
like
you,
said
once
you
flush
the
toilet,
you
don't
know
where
it
goes,
so
you
guys
did
a
great
job.
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
guys
put
behind
this.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Thank
you.
So
much.
W
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you
guys.
I
did
know
where
the
stuff
goes
when
it
goes
down.
The
toilet
I
have
a
background
in
plumbing
as
well,
but
this
was
a
excellent
thing
for
the
for
school
kids.
I
did
the
Great
American
teaching,
also
back
in
the
day
and
I
got
some
really
good
inner
feeling
from
teaching
the
youngsters
so
I'm
sure
that's
what
you
had
as
well,
and
this
this
gives
a
realization.
W
X
I
want
to
thank
Scott,
Sava
and
Mike
for
putting
together
this
project.
I
mean
it's
maybe
simple
to
you,
but
it
looks
like
an
intricate
system
to
most
of
us
here
and
just
think.
It's
cool
just
to
educate
the
youth
in
our
town
and
hopefully
Inspire
some
other
people,
but
the
most
important
thing
is
that
this
city
staff
they
take
pride
in
their
work
and
for
them
to
put
this
project
together
to
show
the
youth
what's
going
on
means
they
really
love
what
they
do
and
they
care
about
our
city.
A
Y
J
Hi
good
evening
again,
David
Ballard
Gettys
Jr
I
live
at
802
Georgia
Avenue
in
Palm
Harbor
earlier
I
was
talking
with
the
gentleman
about
the
display
that
they
have
here
and
remarkable
work
and
I'm.
Very
grateful
infrastructure
is
vital
to
the
survival
of
of
our
society,
especially
with
the
water
issues
that
we're
facing
in
the
near
future.
I
did
run
across
the
statute,
I
believe
it
was
in
Senate
Bill
64.
Last
year,
Senate
Bill
64
made
reference
to
a
few
other
statutes.
One
of
those
statutes,
in
particular,
was
statute.
T
G
All
I
have
it's
going
to
be
we're
arranging
to
try
to
get
this
display
at
the
library.
So
we
have
maximum
exposure
of
this,
and
hopefully
you
have
children.
Grandchildren
hope
you
you'll
be
seeing
it
at
a
school
or
at
one
of
our
events
upcoming,
because
we're
going
to
bring
we're
very
again
we're
very
proud
of
this
and
what
they've
done
and
we
want
to
want
to
show
it
so
yeah.
A
Thank
you.
It's
I
want
to
congratulate
you.
It's
an
Innovative
teaching
device
and
certainly
shows
people
how
things
actually
work
in
your
home.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
consent
agenda
items
one
through
four
attorneys
fees,
special
events,
Epiphany
Glendy
and
the
Dr
Martin
Luther
King
Jr
celebration
authorized
the
fdep
vulnerability,
assistant,
Grant
and
also
number
four
execution
of
the
Florida
Department
of
Agriculture
and
consumer
services.
Grant.
Do
any
Commissioners
wish
to
pull
any
of
those.
A
Is
there
any
obviously
no
comments,
any
questions
for
the
the
residents
on
any
of
that
I
see
none
roll
call.
Please.
A
Maryland,
yes,
yes,
commissioner
Carr,
you
want
to
start
with
three.
V
Yeah
thanks
mayor
I
just
want
to
make
this
call
it
out
a
little
bit
more
and
highlight
it
because
I
think
it's
an
important
aspect
for
Tarpon
Springs.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
the
state
put
in
place
a
couple
years
ago
with
the
ability
to
get
funding
for
vulnerability
assessment
Mark.
If
this,
if
you
could
have
staff,
just
kind
of
highlight
this
at
a
high
level
and
then
what
that
gives
to
the
city
the
ability
to
do
after
the
vulnerability
sub
assessment
is
completed
with
an
action
plan
is.
T
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Paul
Smith,
Public
Services
director
with
me
here
is
Robin
Reeves
sustainability
coordinator
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
second
to
say,
Robin,
almost
coming
up
on
our
first
year
with
us,
and
she
had
a
big
part
in
putting
this
all
together
and
the
state
actually
came
back
to
us
not
too
long
ago
and
said
hey.
Would
you
want
to
increase
your
request
and
I'm
like
well
sure
you
know
so
Robin
put
that
together
it
was
a
lot
of
work
and
so
she's
asked
for
this
full
project
amount.
T
We
don't
know
if
we'll
get
it
yet.
But
that's
the
plan
is
to
try
to
get
a
100
percent
funded,
which
is
very
unusual
for
these
types
of
Grants,
but
I'd
like
Robin
to
just
give
a
quick
overview
of
what
it
is.
AA
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
giving
a
brief
overview
of
what
a
vulnerability
assessment
is
vulnerability.
Assessment
is
a
comprehensive
analysis
of
a
municipality's
infrastructure
to
determine
vulnerabilities
which
may
arise
from
sea
level
rise,
and
this
is
a
great
first
step
in
climate
planning
for
adaptation
and
resiliency
and
to
help
prepare
Florida
communities
for
the
effects
of
sea
level
rise
on
coastal
flooding,
erosion,
ecosystem
changes
and
also
impacts
to
vulnerable
communities.
So
identifying
vulnerabilities
is
really
our
first
step
in
being
able
to
adequately
plan
for
them
and
address
sea
level
rise.
AA
AA
AA
V
Thank
you
so
much
Robin.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
Paul.
So
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
quick
comments
too,
like
this
is
a
big
step
forward
for
the
city
with
getting
this
vulnerability,
assessment
and
action
plan
in
place
for
many
many
years
of
spending
and
where
dollars
should
be
going
to
help
go
after
the
low-lying
areas
and
the
vulnerable
areas
of
Tarpon
Springs,
which
we
have
a
ton
of
so
with
that.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
to
obtain
this.
A
Okay,
let
me
vice
mayor
Lund:
do
you
have
anything
no.
AB
I
read
through
it,
the
vaap
plan
was
a
great
job
Robert.
Just
just
perfect
I
think
it's
time
that
we
got
a
concentrated
effort
to
spend
some
time
on
our
our
water
intrusion,
I've,
seen
I've
seen
the
water
in
my
backyard
go
up
seven
inches
over
the
last
10
years.
AB
I
was
surprised
when
I
read
through
the
county
and
the
NOAA
reports
today
that
it
was
in
fact
not
seven,
but
it
was
almost
nine
inches
that
it's
raised
over
the
last
10
years
and
it's
due
to
go
up
another
20
in
the
next
50..
So
it's
time
we
really
start
paying
attention.
Thank
you.
Thank.
W
Music.
Okay,
thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
am
glad
that
commissioner
Carr
brought
this
up
because
I
had
some
questions
regarding
this
as
well,
and
we
got
to
speak
earlier
and
I
just
want
you
to
know.
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
answers
to
the
questions,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
sometimes
is
we
spend
money
and
we
don't
know
any.
We
don't
know
what
value
we
get
from
spending
that
money.
W
Is
anybody
going
to
give
us
any
more
money
to
do
something
to
rectify
the
problem
once
we
find
it
so
many
times
you
read
about
results
that
we
get
from
surveys
throughout
the
world
of
of
things
that
you
look
at.
You
laugh
because
it
has
no
meaning
so
I
asked
that
question
and
I
was
very
impressed
to
hear
that
we
do
use
this
for
future
building
future
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
areas
and
I.
W
Don't
want
to
steal
your
thunder
if
you'd
like
to
share,
but
there
were
so
many
different
avenues
that
I
got
answers
to
that
I
started
off
the
questioning
pretty
much
in
a
negative
way
and
I
left
it
in
a
very
positive
way.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
you
both
because
you've
opened
up
my
eyes,
as
also
as
commissioner
Carr
said
as
well.
W
This
is
very
valuable
and
it
can
get
us
more
money
and
and
with
with
that
kind
of
aspect,
it
can
only
help
with
what
we
have
so
I
do
want
to.
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
of
what
we
spoke
about
Robin
or
Paul,
but
I
do
want
to.
Thank
you
for
my
heart.
It
was
really
a
a
good
phone
call
and
I
enjoyed.
T
X
Yeah
so
Miss
Reeves,
our
sustainability
coordinator,
like
Mr
Smith,
said
she's
only
been
with
us
for
a
year,
but
she's
hit
the
ground
running.
The
residents
wanted
a
sustainability
coordinator
as
soon
as
possible
and
Miss
Reeves
has
delivered
she's,
taking
responsibility
on
some
of
these
major
tasks
to
help
address
our
vulnerable
areas
with
sea
level
rise
in
our
town,
something
that
the
residents
want
bad
to
be
addressed
and
just
the
return
on
investment
is
going
to
be
great.
You've
done
a
great
job
and
just
keep
going.
Thank
you.
Ma'am.
A
So
I
know
this
is
a
start
for
you.
It's
a
job
well
done
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
seeing
much
more
and
and
I
know,
our
sustainability
action
plan
is
still
being
worked
on.
Ms
Reeves
is
working
on
that
that's
going
to
be
something
almost
equivalent
to
our
strategic
plan
and
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
and
it's
a
very
compreh,
it's
a
very
detailed
plan.
A
That's
being
done,
we've
got
a
separate
sustainability
committee
that
again
that
took
some
time
to
get
established
as
well,
because
it
was
opposition
to
that
so
I
just
want
to
I'm
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
also
wish
to
thank
our
sustainability
committee
for
and
the
volunteers
that
are
participating
on
that,
and
anybody
that
took
took
part
in
convincing
the
commission
some
time
ago
to
establish
this
position
and
get
the
action
sustainability
committee
on
board.
A
A
L
L
If
you
understand
biology
the
whole
Cycle
Works
trees
suck
up
the
carbon
dioxide
as
they
break
down,
and
they
go
into
the
soil
that
eventually
becomes
your
oil
and
other
carbon
byproducts
eventually
after
centuries,
but
they
recycle
the
carbon
dioxide
and
put
oxygen
in
so
I
want
to
also
point
out
the
fact
that
on
number
four,
it
was
a
grant
agreement
for
an
urban
forestry
master
plan,
which
is
great
the
first
year.
Scope
of
the
work
is
for
GIS
mapping
and
physical
assessment
of
individual
trees
located
in
rights,
away
parks
and
municipal
buildings.
L
This
will
provide
the
Baseline
data
for
active
Urban.
Forest
management
second
year
is
for
creating
the
management
plan
and
the
third
year
scope
of
work
is
for
tree
planting
I
hope
we
can
start
doing
some
tree
planting
well
before
three
years
from
now,
because
there
are
places
that
we
can
start
putting
trees
in
without
necessarily
but
I
want
to
thank
Mr,
Powell
and
Shannon
for
their
hard
work
and
getting
this
for
us.
L
J
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
David
Ballard,
Gettys,
Jr,
Georgia
Avenue
in
Palm
Harbor.
My
my
mind
thinks
a
little
more
in
more
of
a
bifurcated
way
on
this
sea
level
rise
issue.
To
my
perspective,
the
Barnacle
line
at
Dunedin
Marina
along
the
sea
wall,
is
no
higher,
nor
is
it
any
lower
than
it
was
50
years
ago,
as
a
child.
J
Article
3,
section
2
of
the
U.S
Constitution
gives
a
rise
to
a
maritime
jurisdiction,
as
fact
so
that
which
is
rising
in
article
3,
section
2,
as
fact
in
the
U.S
Constitution,
would
have
something
to
do
with
a
jurisdiction
in
regards
to
maritime
law
or
contrivances
of
such
I
believe
that
jurisdiction
is
that
naturalizing
or
or
birthing
of
a
water
jurisdiction
in
the
14th
Amendment
the
climate.
That's
changing
would
be
a
political
climate.
That's
changing,
shape-shifting
from
a
municipal
government,
a
city
government,
into
a
a
if
I,
and
to
a
politically
laundered
Watershed
government.
J
The
water
districts
are
soldiered
in
position
to
give
rise
to
that.
As
fact
that
water
district
is
intending
on
franchising
out
water
jurisdictions,
individual
independent
water
jurisdictions,
which
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
per
se,
I,
do
have
a
problem
with
formulating
tax
bases
that
are
Unbecoming
of
basic,
Liberties
and
and
and
freedoms
in
regards
to
human
rights
in
this
climate
change
and
Rise,
as
fact
of
article
3
section
2..
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
X
X
A
Yes,
commissioner,
Carr
number
four
yeah.
V
This
is
another
grant
that
the
city
has
the
opportunity
here
with
and
I
want
to
just
recognize
our
city
staff
members
and
give
them
a
chance
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
program.
That's
going
on
here.
V
If
it's
not
for
our
city
staff,
I,
think
we've
got
a
great
City
staff
here
we
wouldn't
be
getting
these
grants,
so
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
for
for
applying
for
them
and
then
thank
you
for
making
an
effort
to
It
ultimately
puts
money
back
into
the
tree
fund
and
back
into
the
the
city
of
coffers.
So
we
could
spend
it
on
different
projects
in
the
city
as
well
too.
AC
Commissioners
Kevin
Powell
Building
Development
Department
director
I'm
very
proud
of
what
Shannon's
done
going
after
this
Grant
and
being
awarded
at
several
communities
applied
for
it,
but
Shannon
was
able
to
get
what
different
staff
members
and
put
this
together
and
be
awarded
the
the
the
grant.
This
is
another
one
that
no
we've
never
had
it
done
here
before
we're
looking
at
doing
an
inventory
of
tree
inventory,
we
budgeted
for
it.
AC
So
this
was
a
plan
in
the
process
of
doing
it,
but
you
know
with
Shannon
being
on
board
and
her
passion
towards
it.
She
went
after
this
grant
was
awarded
the
Grant
and
now
we're
going
to
move
forward
over
a
three-year
time
period
of
inventory
in
our
tree.
Canopy
I
can
give
Shannon
a
minute
to
kind
of
go
over
a
brief
synopsis
of
of
what
it's
going
to
entail,
but
yeah
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
thing
for
the
city.
AD
AD
You
so
for
the
first
year,
I'm
going
to
have
four
interns
from
the
University
of
South
Florida
come
I've
worked
with
the
gis
Department.
We
are
going
to
GIS
locate
them
also
give
them
a
brief
tree
identification
course
and
to
be
able
to
identify
hazardous
trees
as
well
as
what
the
condition
of
our
current
canopy
coverage
is.
We
do
have
35
percent
I
did
do
that
by
lidar
and
through
itree.
But
what
is
the
condition?
AD
We
don't
know
that
and
we
can't
effectively
manage
what
we
don't
know,
and
that
is
the
point
of
this
and
then
also
in
the
second
year,
is
to
get
public
feedback
from
the
community
and
what
their
values
and
their
goals
are
for
the
urban
Forest.
We
don't
know
that
until
we
ask
them,
so
that
is
part
of
the
second
year
as
well,
and
then
we
have
to
within
the
area
that
was
mapped.
AD
We
have
to
replant
fifteen
thousand
dollars
worth
of
trees
back
in
that
area
and
that's
what
the
interns
will
also
be
looking
for.
Just
find
a
suitable
planting
space.
A
Okay,
Vice.
AB
Agreeing
a
great
effort
by
a
staff
member
on
her
passion,
I've
got
to
admit
when
I
first
looked
at
this
I
gave
it
a
quick
pressure.
I've
said
we
have
a
forest
and
then
I
realized
what
we
were
talking
about
and
I
think
being
able
to
identify
and
and
get
specific
coordinates
and
manage
our
our
tree,
canopy
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
can
do
as
far
as
just
overall
ecology
and
sustainability
for
the
city.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
This
is
great
commission.
W
National,
thank
you
mayor.
I,
too,
want
to
congratulate
you.
I
think
you
guys
did
a
great
job,
I
I'd
love
to
see
this
grow
and
all
I
could
say.
Is
that
you're
doing
a
great
job
keep
doing
it?
Thank
you.
A
X
Want
to
thank
Ms
Brewer
for
the
the
presentation
and
the
hard
work
done
with
City
staff
to
get
this
program
going
and
I
mean
that's
what
the
residents
want.
This
is
another
foundational
piece
that
the
residents
know
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
look
at
our
canopy
see
if
we
can
expand
it
more
where
to
expand
it
and
just
try
to
provide
as
much
shade
as
possible,
because
I
remember
like
a
follow
back
with
the
mayor
that
you
know
a
tree
planter
now
provides
shade
20
years
later.
A
Thank
you,
I
know
this
first,
six
or
seven
months
as
commissioned
there's
been
some
major
distractions
on
things,
so
I've
I
promised
myself
and
I
promised
a
few
residents
that,
after
the
first
of
the
year,
we're
going
to
get
back
to
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
the
city
manager
knows
my
passion
for
trees
and
putting
them
in
the
ground
because
we're
not
going
to
have
them
grow
unless
they're
in
the
ground,
and
we
can
talk
about
it
all
day.
A
AD
A
Ground
right,
so
we
need
to
kind
of
pitch
that
a
little
more
and
bring
it
to
the
forward,
and
so
people
can
understand
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
both
very
much
and
I
know
you'll,
be
seeing
me
a
little
more
after
the
first
of
the
year.
So
let
me
go
to
public.
Are
there
any
comments?
Public
comments.
AE
A
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
to
the
it's
7
30
7
31.
Actually,
we're
gonna
go
to
the
ordinances
and
resolutions
and
do
the
special
consent
agenda
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
The
whole
agenda.
So
the
very
first
item
is
the
resolution
2022-42,
it's
the
coat
hatch
site
plan
and
this
is
the
quasi-judicial
process
I'm
going
to
ask
the
City
attorney
to
give
us
the
instructions
for
the
read
the
read.
The
resolution
by
title
give
us
the
instructions
for
quasi-judicial
hearing
and
also
swearing
any
witnesses
that
are
here
this
evening.
So
Mrs
galastigi.
A
A
E
Quasi-Judicial
the
Board
of
Commissioners
acts
in
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant,
by
the
same
token,
of
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance.
Then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
A
A
E
AF
A
Okay
is
the
applicant
here
Ms
Vincent,
do
you
see
the
applicant.
AB
M
A
Right,
well,
we
haven't
opened
the
hearing.
Yet
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
ahead
and
and
defer
this
item
until
we
get
through
the
next
two
items,
seven
and
eight,
and
then
we'll
revisit
and
see
if
anyone's
here,
yet
for
that,
and
if
not,
then
we'll
defer
this
to
a
future
date.
Thank.
AG
A
All
right,
let's
go
to
is,
is
I.
Think
that's
sufficient
is
I'm
going
to
ask
you
in
the
cold,
just
that's
efficient,
to
go
ahead
and
defer
that
or
do
I
need
the
commissions.
Just
for
these
two
items.
H
A
Go
ahead
and
proceed,
then,
with
number
seven
resolution:
2022-44
application,
Susanna
one
site
plan
here,
the
same
way:
Ms
galasting.
If
you
could
read
the
resolution
by
title,
go
through
the
quasi-judicial
all
over
again
and
then
we'll
swear
anybody.
That's
in
for
that
item.
A
Thank
you.
Let's
go
through
the
quasi-judicial
procedure,
all
over
again.
E
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
Board
of
Commissioners
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
coda
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
A
A
I
see.
The
applicant
is
here:
miss
Vincent,
okay,
I
wanted
to
ask
whether
any
Commissioners
have
had
any
ex
parte
Communications
on
this
matter.
A
A
AF
You
again,
this
is
application
22-90
for
the
Susanna
one
project,
and
you
may
look
see
this
looks
familiar
to
you
back
in
May.
The
board
did
approve
a
conditional
use
related
to
this
project,
specifically
for
an
alternative
dimensional
plan.
The
applicant
is
now
back
before
you
for
the
full
site
plan
review
consistent
with
that
previous
conditional
use
that
was
approved.
So
this
is
resolution
22-44.
AF
D
AF
Know
they
are
required
to
have
10
parking
spaces,
they
have
10
and
they
have
an
acceptable
Landscaping
plan
that
does
include
screening
the
parking
lot.
That
was
a
condition
of
approval
with
the
conditional
use
and
just
the
area
context
it's
zoned
residential
multi-family,
so
the
use
itself
was
permitted
by
right.
So
the
only
thing
that
was
conditional
in
the
previous
approval
was
the
was
the
alternative
dimensional
plan.
AF
So
this
is
the
site
layout.
Again,
it's
a
three
unit
building-
and
you
know,
fronts
these
a
little
more
urban
style
development
parking
to
the
rear
access
off
of
the
alley.
This
is
your
retention
solution.
AF
The
visibility
triangles
have
been
observed,
so
there's
no
issues
there.
When
the
conditional
use
was
approved,
there
were
minimum
setbacks
put
in
for
the
front,
rear
and
side
yards
and
in
all
instances
they
actually
have
managed
to
exceed
those
and
do
a
little
better,
and
so
it
gets
a
little
more
openness
along
the
street.
AF
There's
the
building
elevations.
These
are
a
little
bit
different
from
what
was
originally
seen.
They
have
gone
from
pitched
Roost
to
to
a
flat
roof
again
a
little
bit
more
urban
type
of
product
the
and
just
so
that
you
know.
Let
me
go
back
to
the
site
plan
just
to
kind
of
call
attention
to
this,
so
each
unit
actually
has
a
porch
and
access
that
fronts
out
onto
the
public
street.
AF
So
there's
it's
a
nice
Street
Frontage
along
both
buildings
and
again
so
you
can
see
the
porches
here
and
there'll
be
accesses
out
directly
under
the
street,
as
well
as
through
the
back
to
the
parking
lots.
AF
The
two
conditions
of
approval
that
were
placed
on
the
conditional
use
was
the
buffering
of
the
parking
lot
from
the
adjacent
property
should
be
addressed
during
the
site
plan
process.
This
the
buffering,
that's
provided
here,
you
have
the
trees,
the
the
pond
itself
provides
a
buffer
and
you
have
the
required
plantings
along
here
to
as
they
mature
to
provide
that
that
visual
buffer.
We
also
had
to
find
a
workable
solution
for
the
collection
and
disposal
of
solid
waste.
AF
There
will
be
individual
toters
that
will
be
stored
along
the
alley
just
for
for
that
solution,
so
staff
recommended
approval
of
the
site
plan
with
the
four
conditions.
AF
The
site
construction
must
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan,
the
numbers
one,
that's
a
standard
condition
number
two
is
compliance
with
our
site
lighting
requirements,
our
special
requirements
for
design
for
site
lighting.
They
must
comply
with
the
public
art
program
and
then
just
the
the
if
the
regular
expiration
of
one
year,
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
reviewed
this
at
their
November
21st
meeting
and
they
did
recommend
approval
by
a
vote
of
6-0,
and
there
was
no
public
comment
on
the
item
at
the
hearing.
So
with
that
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
A
Let's
go
to
I
should
ask:
is
there
any
affected
party
here
first
I
I
didn't
do
that
I
should
have
I
didn't
think
there
would
be.
There
was
anything
at
the
other
ordinance
that
talked
about
this
before.
Let's
go
to
commission
comments
for
questions
vice
mayor
alone,
I.
AB
AF
I,
don't
know
the
specific
street
I'm
going
to
assume
it's
going
to
be
the
one
closest
to
closest
to
the
to
the
alley.
Let
me
go
back
here.
AB
AF
Along
Grove,
Street
I'll
have
to
I
I
mean
that
would
be
the
logical
place,
but
I
can't
stay
with
all
certainty
that
that's
the
street
where
the
garbage
gets
picked
up.
So
that's
I,
don't
know.
If
the
applicant
has
any
additional
information,
they
did
work
with
our
our
Waste
Management
folks,
I
apologize
I
just
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
it
would
seem
logical
that
that
is
where
that
would
be.
Okay,.
AB
And
my
other
concern
would
be
because
we're
doing
this
and
we're
bringing
out
I
don't
know
all
these
totes
out
to
the
curbside
people
get
busy
and
our
trash
stuff
gets
picked
up
at
various
times
depending
upon
what
their
schedule
is
like.
AB
AF
I
I,
don't
think
that's
any
different
than
any
other
situation.
Where
I
put
my
trash
can
out
so
I.
You
know,
I,
think
it's
an
Enforcement
issue
or
a
complaint
issue.
I'll
have
to
defer
to
the
application.
May
I
have
more
information
about
the
day-to-day
operation
since
it's
a
small
operation,
I'm
sure
they
have
to
you
know
they
still
have
to
have
some
sort
of
a
manager
and
a
point
of
contact
for
those
types
of
questions.
Okay,.
AF
AF
AF
V
V
I'm,
just
thinking
as
a
as
a
good
neighbor
you've
got
a
parking
lot
right
in
someone's
side
side
view
window.
This
could
be
an
area
that
we
want
to
look
at
requiring
some
type
of
additional
buffer
I.
Think
the
plants
that
are
being
used
are
more
of
a
dwarf
type
plant
as
well.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
that
really
that
big
of
a
buffer
and
then
you
have
some
crepe
myrtles
that
really
don't
buffer
anything
as
well
too.
V
AF
There's
no
requirement
but
I
think
you
can
ask
the
applicant
if
they'll
consider
that
they
may
already
be
considering
that,
but
I'll
have
to
defer
to
them.
But
it's
not.
You
know,
like
I,
said
technically:
they're
not
required
to
buffer.
Now
I
mean
there
was
a
condition
of
approval
with
the
conditional
use.
That
said,
you
know
the
buffering
of
the
part,
though
there's
a
parking
lot
buffer
requirement
and
that's
what
they're
meeting
so
you
know
they've
met
the
Land
Development
code,
you
know
it.
It's
the
you
know
the
buffering.
W
Ashley,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mayor
I.
Just
have
one
quick
question.
Renee
on
the
Southeast
corner,
it
looks
like
unit
3
is
very
close
to
the
street.
Is
that
a
hindrance
for
vehicles
at
all.
A
W
A
W
A
No,
this
is
a
fairly
straightforward
project
and
nothing
from
the
staff
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
whether
he
has
any
questions
you
can
come
forward
because
it'll
be
your
turn.
But
if
you
have
any
questions
for
Ms
Vincent
that
would
okay,
then
please
come
forward
state,
your
name
and
and
address,
and
then
we
can
hear
your
presentation.
AH
Hi,
my
name
is
Samer
al-ghafari
2166,
West,
Bush,
Boulevard,
Tampa,
Florida,
33612
I
just
want
to
answer
the
question
about
offense.
We
are
proposing
a
fence
along
the
entire
east
side
of
the
pond
and
we're
allowing
the
landscaping
and
the
fence
combined
provide
enough
screening
to
the
property
next
door.
AH
A
AH
I
think
the
plans
call
for
a
a
type
B
fdot
PVC
chain
link
fence.
So
that's
what
defense
right
now
is
on
the
plans.
AH
A
shrub
you're
complaining
we
can
plant
Vines
along
the
way
and
the
the
some
of
the
Confederate
jasmine.
That's
gonna,
grow
on
it
and
yeah.
AH
AB
AE
A
AB
It
sorry
can
I
interrupt
here.
Did
I
just
hear
that
you
were
planning
to
put
a
PVC
chain
link
fence
on
the
edge
of
the
property
in
front
of
the
pond
at.
AH
AH
M
AE
W
X
Yes,
sir,
the
last
presentation
we
had
asked
one
of
the
individuals
representing
your
application
to
please
consider
a
portion
or
small
perspective,
small
percentage
of
housing
for
subsidized
housing.
Have
you
considered
that.
AH
Oh
I,
unfortunately,
I
have
I,
don't
have
an
answer
to
that
I'm
the
engineer
the
agent
but
I'm,
not
so
sure.
If
that
has
been
processed
I
can
I
can
get
back
with
you.
With
that
information.
The
the
applicant
has
quite
a
few
other
units
in
the
area.
So
when
we
somebody
mentioned
about
somebody
managing,
there's,
always
maintenance,
gentlemen
going
from
a
unit
to
a
unit,
so
any
issues
related
to
code
enforcement
or
something
going
out
of
out
of
whack.
AH
AH
It's
all
of
that
all
of
the
residents
that
he
currently
has
make
could
qualify
as
a
minority
residence.
Okay,.
X
Because
I
I'm
always
worried
about
you
know
certain
local
residents
being
pushed
out.
You
know
with
high
priced
stuff.
I
know
we
can't
control
that
to
an
extent,
but
it
is
a
historic,
neighborhood
and
kind
of
try
to
protect
the
minorities
within
it
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
to
you
and
I
know
you
have
another
project
with
some
similar
setbacks
in
the
neighborhood.
Do
you
have
any
other
ones
that
may
be
presented
sometime
after
no.
AH
Okay
right
now,
as
far
as
I
know,
these
are
the
only
two
projects
that
I'm
working
on
for
this
client.
AF
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
also
ask
you
Ms
Vincent.
If
you
want
the
staff
report
accepted
into
evidence,
yeah.
A
If
there
are
no
other
commission
comments,
I'm
going
to
close
the
I'm
going
to
go
to
public
comment,
actually
public
comments
on
this
item.
L
L
For
Ashland
Avenue
and
to
commissioner
Luntz
question
on
page,
two
of
four
of
the
staff
report
does
state
that
residents
will
be
responsible
for
taking
toters
from
the
designated
storage
spot
on
site
along
the
alley
to
the
storage
to
the
street
for
pickup
as
far
as
picking
it
up
afterwards.
I'm
not
sure
now,
I
do
feel
that
this
project
does
port
to
I.
Think
what
we
would
like
with
our
smart
code
in
regards
to
internal
parking
and
buildings
facing
the
street
thing.
L
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
all
have
driven
by
this
property
on
the
right
on
the
east
side,
where
the
property
boundary
line
there
is
a
new
house
going
in.
But
my
concern
is
the
alley
as
the
access.
If
you
actually
go
back
and
look
there,
there's
a
fencing
from
the
property
on
the
north
side
of
the
alley
that
appears
to
actually
come
into
the
alley.
So
my
one
question
would
be
is:
was
the
alley
that's
back?
L
There
is
a
portion
of
that
been
vacated,
or
does
it
end
at
the
end
of
this
property
and
that's
the
only
Alleyway.
That
is
because
it
doesn't
appear
that
that
alley
goes
all
the
way
through
and
I
am
concerned,
because
part
of
the
reason
the
toters
are
going
to
be
in
this
area
to
be
taken
out
is
because
the
garbage
trucks
can't
go.
So
my
concern
would
be
what
what's
going
to
happen.
L
When
you
have
someone
coming
into
the
property
and
someone
going
out,
you
only
got
it
says
here:
12
foot
alley,
you're
going
to
have
two
cars
being
able
to
pass
in
a
12-foot
alley,
I
don't
know
I'm
concerned
and
if
you
look
at
the
property
there's
actually
a
driveway
cut,
an
old
driveway
cut,
probably
from
the
house
that
used
to
be
there
years
ago
on
Grove
Street.
L
And
lastly,
with
regards
to
the
fencing
that
was
referenced
on
the
east
side,
I
would
like
to
get
a
clarification
if
the
pond
is
totally
closed
off,
because
he
said
it's
a
two
foot
drop
and
as
I
was
driving
through
there
today.
L
The
school
was
getting
out,
people
were
walking
their
kids,
but
a
lot
of
times,
kids
are
walking
on
their
own
or
stuff
and
what's
to
keep
them
from
going
into
the
retention,
Pond
or
some
other
issue,
because
you've
got
the
tarpon
fundamental
just
right
around
the
corner
from
there,
and
so
those
are
just
some
concerns.
I
do
think
the
project
overall
is
complementary
to
the
area,
just
a
few
things
that
I
would
like
to
see
answered
and
tweaked.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
A
All
right
we're
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
go
to
Commissioners
for
any
comments
now
vice
mayor
alone,.
AB
AB
I
also
think
the
fencing
should
be
pretty
much
completely
around
that
pond.
From
a
security
point
of
view,
there
are
kids
in
that
area.
AB
Screening
might
be
sufficient
for
the
property
to
the
east,
but
it
certainly
isn't
going
to
be
for
the
safety
of
kids
that
are
running
around
there
and
I've
seen
that
as
far
as
the
alleyway,
it
appeared
to
me
when
I
took
a
look
at
the
property
that
the
current
fence
to
the
north
is
actually
encroached
on
the
alleyway
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
applicant
is
actually
going
to
be
restoring
that
Alleyway,
because
it's
really
not
much
of
an
Alleyway
as
it
as
it
sits
right
now,
I've
already
mentioned
my
concerns
about
the
Taurus
and
stuff
I
guess,
that's
that's
pretty
much
taken
care
of
traffic
is
another
thing
and
they're
going
to
be
using
our
Alleyway
as
a
basically
as
an
entrance
to
their
parking
lot.
X
I'm
going
to
support
the
project,
but
I
am
I'm
not
too
crazy
about
the
setbacks.
If
we
we
allow
Thai
setbacks
like
this
in
certain
neighborhoods
and
we
start
doing
it
across
the
street.
We
are
creating
very
narrow
roads
and
you
know
I'd
like
to
have
more
open
roads
with
being
able
to
in
case
of
emergencies,
go
around
if
possible,
and
some
of
these
setbacks
are
tight,
but
I
am
going
to
support
it,
but
I.
Don't
think
this
will
be
a
precedent
too.
A
A
The
what
I
want
to
do
is
is
make
sure
that
the
commission
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
and
I'm
going
to
ask
for
whoever
makes
that
motion
to
include
any
conditions
that
they
discussed
or
someone
else
can
discussed
as
far
as
the
approval
before
we
get
to.
Second,
so
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
make.
X
B
X
B
G
So
what
I
like
the
board
to
do
is
to
this
is
a
resolution
so
I'd
like
you
to
defer
to
a
date
to
be
determined
because
I
do
not
think
I
can
fit
them
on
the
meeting
next
week
with
all
the
things
we
have
to
deal
with,
so
it
may
be
January
before
they
can
come
back
and
from
what
I
know.
That's
their
problem,
not
our
problem
and
stuff.
So
I'd
like
the
board
to
just
defer
that
item
to
the
date
to
be
determined.
G
A
V
AE
X
X
A
Merlot,
yes,
yes,
this
item
also
includes
we're
going
to
as
part
of
that,
I
know
that
there
was
going
to
be
some
discussion
because
I
was
going
to
introduce
it
concerning
parking
and
I.
There
may
be
some
people
here
that
were
interested
in
parking,
so
this
item
is
going
to
be
deferred
to
a
later
date.
A
G
M
Let's
take
a
break
for
10
minutes,
we'll
reconvene
it
at
8
13.
A
Say
13
we
reconvene
the
meeting
this
evening
and
we're
going
to
go
to
item
eight
ordinance,
2022-28
application,
2036
Keystone,
Village,
Residential,
plan
of
development,
Ms
galastigi.
If
you
could
read
the
ordinance
by
title,
go
through
the
quasi-judicial
procedure
and
swear
in
any
witnesses
that
we
may
have.
E
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
Board
of
Commissioners
Acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
this
hearing
or
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
E
A
Okay,
is
there
anyone
that
is
here
to
provide
testimony?
If
you
could
stand
please
and
be
sworn
in.
A
Okay,
Miss
Vincent
I'm,
going
to
assume
the
applicant
is
here:
is
there
anyone
here
that
claims
to
be
an
affected
party?
Anyone
here
that
please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
and
state.
Why
you're
an
affected
party.
AI
A
It
I
understand
I'm
going
to
go
at
this
point,
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
establish
you
as
an
affected
party
and
then
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
as
we
go
through
the
process.
Okay,
thank
you.
If
you
can,
you
know,
take
your
seat
again.
Please
is
there
anyone
else
please
come
forward.
Then.
A
A
AF
AF
AF
This
is
a
preliminary
plan,
development
application
to
essentially
rezone
the
property
from
the
current
designation
of
Agriculture
to
residential
plan
development
for
the
purposes
of
a
50-unit
subdivision,
plus
what
we're
calling
an
estate
lot.
So
51
total
units,
but
a
50
unit
subdivision
and
one
estate
lot,
which
is
really
kind
of
separate.
The
location,
is
along
Keystone
Road
between
North
Highland
and
East
Lake
Drive,
the
property
has
52.2
Acres.
AF
There
are
24
rough,
almost
25
acres
of
Uplands,
there's
a
large
borrowed
Pond
a
little
over
six
acres
on
the
site
and
about
21
Acres
of
wetlands,
so
the
existing
future
land
use
designation
on
the
property
is
residential,
very
low.
That's
one
unit
per
acre,
there's
also
some
the
wetlands
are
in
a
preservation,
designation
and
again.
Those
are
also
recognized
at
one
unit
per
acre
with
the
intent
being
that
you
can
well,
you
can't
really
build
on
the
preservation.
AF
You
can
it's
allowable
density
to
be
transferred
to
an
area
of
of
Upland,
so
the
total
allocate
potential
allocation
is
52
dwelling
units,
as
I
said,
the
current
designation
on
the
property
is
agricultural.
That's
when
the
property
was
annexed
in
over,
it's
been
annexed
in
pieces
and
it
was
brought
in
and
from
the
Pinellas
County
designation.
It
was
a
residential
agricultural,
designation.
I
AF
And
so
when
it
was
originally
annexed
in
we
put
an
agricultural,
comparable
agricultural
zoning
on
it
within
the
city.
That
designation
allows
1.4
units
per
acre,
which
is
actually
a
little
higher
than
the
underlying
land
use
and
the
minimum
lot
size
that
would
be
allowed
under
that
agricultural
zoning
is
30
000
square
feet.
If
you
factor
that
in
we're
estimating
there's
also
a
piece
of
the
of
the
development
that
is,
is
an
existing
RPD
designation.
AF
There
was
an
RPD
that
was
approved
on
the
property
again
back
in
the
I,
want
to
say
the
2007-2008
time
frame
that
was
never
built
and
then
Pinellas
County
actually
bought
a
piece
of
that
property
and
they
built
the
pond
when
they
did
the
Keystone
Road
Extension,
so
that
the
RPD
designate
there's
an
RPD
designation
on
part
of
the
property
already.
AF
But
when
you
factor
that
in
right
now
we
estimate
that,
under
the
existing
land
use
and
and
the
designations
zoning
designations,
you
could
probably
get
you
know:
25
27
units
on
the
property,
so
just
location
and
context.
This
is
Keystone
Road.
This
is
North
Highland.
So
this
is
the
site
here.
This
is
the
borrow
Pond.
The
borrow
Pond
was
approved
again
back
in
the
the
two,
the
early
2000s
time
frame.
AF
This
is
the
the
piece
that
the
RPD
piece
kind
of
comes
through
here,
originally
I.
Think
that
shows
up
on
a
later
slide.
This
is
the
pond
Pinellas
County's
retention,
Pond
associated
with
the
Keystone
Road
expansion.
AF
So
a
little
closer
look,
so
everything
that's
in
this
kind
of
light,
yellow
color
is
in
that
residential,
very
low
designation
of
one
unit
per
acre,
and
then
you
can
see
this
is
unincorporated
County
around
this
project,
so
anything
that
doesn't
have
a
color
on
it
is
unincorporated
Pinellas
County.
AF
AF
So
one
one
house
per
two
acres
is
the
the
surrounding
context
and,
as
I
said,
that's
in
a
you
know,
in
a
kind
of
a
it's,
a
residential
agricultural
designation,
so
I've
already
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
property
that
it's
annexing
portions,
between
2014
2006
and
2017,
originally
69,
roughly
69
Acres,
this
property,
this
application
and
process
is
really
only
involving
52
Acres.
AF
The
past
uses
have
included
the
the
borrow
pit.
Essentially
you
know
selling
the
dirt
off
agriculture.
You
know
so
there's
been
a
significant
disturbance
on
the
property,
Through
The
Years
and
there's
also
a
Duke
Energy
easement
that
traverses
the
property.
AF
The
part
the
property
is
partially
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
map
to
that
effect,
but
the
coastal
Hazard
area
piece
is
really.
The
wetlands
are
pretty
much
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
and
a
small
portion
of
the
rpdp.
The
existing
RPD
piece
as
I
said,
there's
the
pros.
The
proposed
access
to
the
property
is
comes
from
Keystone
Road.
It's
a
single
access
for
the
the
proposed
50
units.
AF
They
did
have
to
seek
a
waiver
from
Pinellas
County
to
cross
to
to
have
the
direct
access
come
off
of
Keystone
Road
under
the
Pinellas
County
Land
Development
code.
They
require
access
to
come
off
of
the
Lesser
classification
of
road,
which
would
have
been
Highland.
They
did
seek
a
variance
from
the
Pinellas
County
Board
of
adjustments
to
that,
and
they
did
receive
that
so
there's
a
theoretical
approval.
AF
AF
There
are
no
Wetland
impacts
proposed
in
this
project
and
it
does
observe
the
required
50-foot
buffer
all
around
that's
required
in
the
by
the
plan
development
process.
So,
in
order
to
achieve
their
layout,
they
actually
will
be
partially
filling
the
pond.
The
borrow
Pond
to
to
make
the
project
work.
AF
They've
identified
recreational
amenities
of
the
borrow
Pond
itself
was:
it
was
a
small
vessel
access,
kayaks
and
things
of
that
that
nature,
a
small
Tot
Lot
and
then
what
we
call
a
wide
walk
connection
to
the
to
the
Pinellas
trail
and
I
can
show
you
that
on
a
further
slide,
water
and
sewer
service
is
provided
by
Pinellas
County.
This
is
in
their
water
and
sewer
service
area.
AF
This
is
just
a
breakdown
of
what
the
requirements
are
for
the
RPD.
Essentially,
their
layout
does
meet
all
the
requirements.
Those
dimensional
standard
requirements
of
the
RPD
cluster
development
requirements.
AF
So
the
estate
lot
shows
a
buildable
area
of
55
000,
almost
56
000
square
feet.
The
estate
lot,
actually
as
it's
proposed,
is
around
the
20
acre
lot
that
consist
of
the
up
the
buildable
Upland
and
then
some
of
the
wetlands,
some
of
the
wetlands
on
the
site,
and
we
may
talk
more
about
that
facility
service
again.
For
that
particular
lot,
our
access
will
be
from
North
Highland.
AF
It's
served
by
Pinellas,
County
Water,
the
whether
or
not
it
the
county
will
require
them
to
extend
sewer
to
that
particular
lot,
we'll
be
up
to
Pinellas
County.
So
we're
recommending
that,
even
though
there
may
be
enough
density
to
put
two
units
there
in
the
future,
we're
recommending
that
it
be
limited
to
one.
Unless
they
can,
you
know
get
some
kind
of
of
formal
sewer
from
and
not
rely
on
septic.
AF
AF
So
here's
the
layout
so
I'll
talk
through
some
of
this,
so
this
is
the
buildable
area
of
this
state
lot.
This
is
like
the
56
000
square
feet
so
more
than
an
acre
about
you
know
one
and
one
and
a
quarter
Acres
that
would
have
access
on
Highland
that
could
be
just
built
in
the
future.
These
are
the
Wetland
areas
that
are
not
being
impacted,
and
then
you
have
this
I
know.
This
is
difficult
to
see
on
the
screen.
AF
Your
50
units
on
this
laid
out
on
the
remaining
Upland
areas,
and
then
this
is
that
existing
borrow
pond,
so
the
waiver
that's
being
requested,
so
there's
no
homes
on
on
the
west
side
of
the
of
the
the
entry
way
off
of
Keystone.
So
there's
only
this
the
homes
on
the
east
side.
So
there
would
be
one
wide
eight
foot
sidewalk
here
and
then
that
makes
the
connection
to
the
Pinellas
Trail.
AF
So
the
criteria
that
are
these
are
the
criteria
for
the
preliminary
plan
development
approval.
We
have
to
look
at
its
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Is
the
you
know
the
physical
character
of
the
site?
Is
it
suitable
in
location,
area
and
character
for
the
and
for
the
for
the
area?
Is
the
land
use
compatible?
AF
AF
You
know
the
and
we
do
find
it
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
map
categories
of
residential,
very
low
in
preservation.
They
are
utilizing
density
averaging
to
Cluster
the
development
on
the
least
environmental,
environmentally
sensitive
portions
of
the
site,
they're,
preserving
the
wetlands
and
establishing
a
full
50-foot
Wetland
buffer.
AF
AF
AF
Does
the
project
provide
a
transition
of
intensities
the
again
it's
a
the
density
is
really
being
maintained.
There's
no
change
there,
but
you
know,
and
that
so,
with
the
buffering
and
the
surrounding
you
know
you
do
have
some
transition
between
the
residential
agricultural
uses
that
surround
the
property.
But
I
do
want
to
call
attention
that
in
the
surrounding
area,
the
agricultural
designations
in
Pinellas
County
potentially
could
set
up
future
compatibility
issues
so
that
designation
it
allows
for
farm
animals.
AF
You
know
there
are
certain
special
uses
and
conditional
uses
that,
like
outdoor
shooting
ranges
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
you
know,
while
the
site,
as
they're
proposing
it,
is
buffered
from
these
areas.
The
surrounding
areas
you
can
still
have
uses
in
the
future
that
could
potentially
set
up
conflicts
that
could
be
problematic,
so
I
do
want
that.
One
I
wanted
that
to
be
well
aware:
public
facilities,
Pinellas
County,
has
indicated
that
you
know
they
can
serve
the
project,
so
we're
not
worrying
about
public
facilities.
AF
AF
If
you
apply
a
strict
interpretation
regarding
our
level
of
service
for
many
parks
to
serve
that
number
of
people,
it
would
have
to
be
close
more
closely
at
around
4
000
square
feet,
but
there
are
other
other
assets
on
the
property
that
that
do
come
into
play,
such
as
the
access
to
the
pond
and
the
access
to
the
trail
for
the
transportation.
Again,
it's
a
single
access
out
to
Keystone
road
because
it,
the
50
units,
are
they're
not
exceeding
that
threshold.
That
requires
a
second
entrance.
AF
Then
the
estate
lot
itself
is
off
of
has
a
direct
connection
to
Keystone
to
to
Highland
the
Pinellas
County
approvals
to
Keystone
Road
and
the
Pinellas.
Trail
connections
are
critical
to
the
layout
of
this.
So
the
applicant
knows
that
they've
been
working
with
the
county
to
my
understanding,
those
are
not
approved
as
of
yet
but
that
that
approval
process
is
underway,
there's
really
no
mass
transit.
You
know
they're
not
affecting
any
minor
streets.
AF
You
know
they're,
you
know
the
project
takes
success,
access
off
a
keystone
and
there's
no
level
of
service
issues.
There.
AF
Regarding
natural
and
cultural
resources,
they
do
take
advantage
of
natural
features
in
the
layout
and
they
do
cluster
everything
on
the
least
environmentally
sensitive
and
Disturbed.
You
know
Upland
portions
of
the
site.
There
are
some
conditions
of
approval
that
we
are
recommending,
but
when
this
goes
to
final
plan
development
to
further.
AF
Ensure
that
that
that
those
areas
are
are
are
those
areas
are
identified.
Some
of
those
include
making
sure
that
this
stabilization
slopes
and
Landscape
plantings
are
sufficient.
AF
There's
been
a
lot
of
ground
disturbance
on
the
property
through
the
year,
so
you
know
the
Geotech
investigation
and
Remediation
plan
the
borrow
Pond
slopes
and
Shoreline
treatments,
landscaping
and
tree
Replacements
conservation
easements
over
the
Wetland
and
Upland
buffers,
and
then
we
do
want
a
level
one
cultural
resource
assessment
to
identify
if
there's
any
potential
archaeological
sites
on
on
the
on
the
site.
AF
So
the
rezoning
criteria
are
very
similar
to
the
plan
development
criteria.
So
I'm
not
going
to
go,
you
know
through
those
they're
in
the
staff
report.
The
at
this
point
we're
not
making
a
recommendation.
We
are.
We
think
that
the
project
has
evolved
enough
and
is
addressed
the
RPD
requirements
that
to
bring
it
forward
to
the
board
for
consideration.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
did
review
this
and
did
recommend
approval
with
one
dissenting
vote.
AF
If
the
board
does
choose
to
recommend
approval,
we
would
recommend
that
the
waiver
is
include
included
for
waiving
the
construction
of
the
sidewalk
on
the
west
side
of
the
entrance
Road
and
the
24
recommended
conditions
that
are
listed
in
the
staff
report
would
be
included
in
the
in
the
they're
showed
in
the
ordinance
now,
and
so
we
would
recommend
that
those
be
included
as
well
as
I
said.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
has
reviewed
this
and
did
recommend
approval.
AF
They
did.
They
did
want
when
it
noted
that
the
they
recommend
approval
with
the
staff
conditions
and
one
additional
condition
that
the
applicant
include
notification
of
potential
impacts
to
surrounding
agricultural
uses
to
prospective
homeowners.
So
we
want
that
in
the
homeowner
declarations
and
and
and
what
do
I
want
to
call
it
disclosures
that
you
could
potentially
have
conflicts
with
surrounding
agricultural
uses
and,
as
I
stated,
there
was
one
one
board,
member
in
opposition.
AF
AB
AF
I
can't
recall
a
similar
instance,
you
know
exactly
like
this
I
mean
we
certainly
have
considered
other
recreational
assets.
You
know
in
as
part
of
a
subdivision
approval
and
not
just
a
Tot
Lot,
whether
or
not
we've
included
a
you
know.
A
pond
access
like
this
I
I,
don't
recall.
AF
It's
it's
more
than
we've
had
with
some
others.
I
would
say
that
I
mean
certainly
the
trail
access
is.
You
know
that
is,
is
very
desirable.
AF
You
know
I'll
let
the
applicant
speak
more
to
how
that
pond
May
function.
They
also
have
like
you
know,
Wildlife
viewing
area,
they've
identified
and
things
of
that
nature.
You
know.
Is
it
sufficient?
I
mean
it's
a
you
know:
we've
got
a
we've
got
a
designation
in
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
says
you
know
you.
Can
you
can
do
a
mathematical
calculation?
That's
what
we've
done
with
what
we've
done.
I
know
yeah,
and
you
know
quite
honestly,
I,
don't
know
that
we've
ever
done
that
mathematical
calculation
before
so.
AF
It's
a
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
you
know
when
the
the
requirements
for
the
mini
Parks
is
a
that's
a
requirement.
You
know
city-wide
it's
something
that
we've
more
recently.
You
know
honed
in
on
on
these.
You
know,
probably
on
these
planted
subdivisions
that
you
need
to
provide
some
something
you
know
they're,
not
providing
what
they're
you
know.
What
you
don't
see
is
a
clubhouse.
AF
AB
AF
AB
And
to
my
recollection,
Keystone
road
is
a
Scenic
Corridor
right,
so.
AB
AF
AB
To
America
no
further
questions
at
this.
V
Thanks
mayor,
what's
a
Tot
Lot
this.
V
AF
We
have
a,
we
have
a
standard
that
says
a
certain
number
of
acres
per
1000
residents,
so
you
have
to
really
work
backward
and
all
right.
What's
the
what's
the
population?
What's
what
would
be
required
and
you
can
come
up
with
a
you
know:
a
square
compat
did
the
calculation.
So
we
we
came
up.
You
know,
honestly,
it's
not
we've
not
done
that
calculation
before,
but
we
needed
a
standard.
So
it's
yeah,
sorry,
so
it's
yeah,
0.8
acres
per
1000
persons,
so
which
equates
to
about
35
square
feet
per
person.
AF
So
that's
that's
how
we
came
up
with
the
calculation.
Okay.
V
Yeah
makes
sense.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So,
looking
at
the
RPD
standard
versus
proposed
standard,
my
understanding
they're
pretty
much
aligned
with.
AG
AF
D
AF
Was
just
a
kind
of
a
back
of
the
envelope,
not
really
taking
into
consideration
how
you
would
lay
out
roads
and
things
like
that,
just
kind
of
looking
at
acreages
available
of
Uplands
yeah?
That
was
just
a
real
rough
to
give
you,
you
know
an
idea
of
what
could
be
possible
on
the
on
the
site
under
the
existing
zoning
designation.
Okay,.
V
From
a
compatibility
I
mean
across
the
street
on
Keystone,
obviously
the
houses
are
closer
together,
but
then
the
house
is
that
a
butt,
this
piece
of
property
or
the
ones
on
the
back
side
off
Highland
those
are
tend
to
be
larger
Lots
as
well
too
so
from
staff
standpoint.
Is
there
compatibility
with
the
the
cluster
lots
and
in
this
area.
AF
AF
You
know
I,
think
you
know
where
you
know
it's
along
this,
this
border
here
they
do.
Have
you
know
a
substantial
buffer
along
this
border
with
these
properties
upon
the
pond
itself,
Services
a
buffer.
So
you
know,
is
this
sufficient
to
you
know
to
buffer
I
mean
these?
Are
you
know,
even
though
the
residential
agriculture,
you
know
they
they're
I
mean
they're
they're,
pretty
much.
You
know
single-family
large
lot
single-family
homes,
but
they
always
have
the
potential
for
agricultural
uses.
So
you
know
and
that
that
can
potentially
set
up.
AF
AF
You
know
so
I
mean
it's
can
I
say
with
100
certainty
that
you're
not
going
to
have
a
conflict
in
the
future.
You
know
I,
don't
think
I
can
I
can
state
that
the
rest
of
the
project
is
pretty
well
isolated.
You
know,
so
it's
really
this
buffer
area
along
here.
That
I
think
is
you
know
they?
Could
you
have
a
potential
setup
in
the
future?
For
you
know,
I,
you
know
in
terms
of
you're
talking
about
the
lot
size
issue
right,
I
mean
I,
I.
AF
Think
with
the
buffering
the
lot
size
issue
and
the
set
aside
of
the
wetlands
and
everything
I
think
is,
is
ameliorated,
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
future
compatibility
between
you
know
a
residential
subdivision
here
and
what
could
be
agricultural
uses
that
in
in
the
future
and
and
that's
their
right?
So
that
is
more
the
compatibility
issue
that
that
I
see.
You
know
that
that
there's
a
potential
for.
V
AF
V
AF
Looking
for
them,
so
I
mean
here's
the
site.
So
this
is
all
residential
agriculture,
unincorporated
Pinellas
County
around
here
you
know,
there's
already
a
ho
there's
you
know
this
is
you
can
only
put
really
one
home
on
this.
This
is
that
one
out
parcel
there's
no
access
up
here.
So
this
is
really
the
area
of
that
I.
Would
you
know
that
I
see
a
potential
compatibility
issue?
You
know
you
certainly
have
other.
You
know.
You've
got
Golf
Course
developments
out
here
that
are
cluster
developments
that
have
set
aside.
That
you
know
are
comparable.
AF
You
know
home
site
sizes
and
things
I
mean
I,
think
what
you
know
while
lot
size
I'm
not
as
concerned
about
lot
size,
but
it
does
make
a
difference
in
what
can
be
built
on
the
property.
Absolutely
you're,
going
from
a
30,
000
square
foot
required
minimum
lot
to
something.
That's
six.
Six
thousand
sixty
five
hundred
required
square
foot
Lots,
so
you're
inherently
are
going
to
have
more
more
homes
on
the
property.
With
this
with
the
RPD.
V
AG
V
AF
D
AF
It
was
actually
Town
Homes
when
it
was
approved.
It
was
never
built
and
then
Pinellas
County
bought
this
portion
of
it
to
build
their
their
retention
Pond,
when
they
ex
did
the
expansion
of
Keystone
Road.
V
You
asking
the
question:
is
I
mean,
should
there
be
any
weight
saying
there,
the
the
portion
of
the
RPD
development
zoning
was
purchased
and
made
into
a
retention
pond,
so
that's
not
gonna
be
RPD.
It
couldn't
be
used
by
RPD
any
longer,
because
the
retention
Pond
they
sold
it
off
it.
Should
there
be
any
weight
held
to
say
well.
Would
that
be
a
reason
why
you
could
look
at
agriculture
being
zoned
into
RPD
as
an
alternative,
because
that
are
that
RPD
there.
AF
It
had
RPD
there
so
yeah
internally.
It's
definitely
you
know
it.
It's
consistent
with
that
existing
RPD
designation
there
that
under
the
existing
I
think
we
said
that
you
know
this
would
support.
You
know
nine
Lots
under
the
RPD
zoning,
the
rest
of
the
you
know
the
agriculture
would
be
have
to
be
larger
Lots,
so
I
mean
yes
internally.
It
makes
the
project
more
consistent
with
that
RPD
by
having
it
all
be
RPD.
AF
V
V
AF
V
V
W
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you
mayor
in
one
of
the
comments
you
had
here.
It's
called
a
it's
a
cluster
home
or
cluster.
AF
AF
AF
That
is
that
is
in.
AF
AF
The
the
borrow
pit
borrow
Pond
is
that
is
that's
this
Pond
here
and
that
was
approved
back
in
the
early
2000s
I
want
to
say
it
was
an
allowable
use
under
the
agricultural
zoning
on
the
property.
At
that
point
in
time,
and
essentially
the
the
owner
dug
dirt
out
of
there
and
dug
a
pond
sold
the
dirt
and
created
a
pond
on
the
property.
AF
AF
W
Okay,
it's
just
when
I
look
at
this.
It
reminds
me
of
another
project:
do
we
have
any
situation
where
anywhere
in
the
city
where
we
have
7
000
square
foot,
Lots.
W
And
would
that
be
in
another
cluster
area.
AF
The
closest
thing
that
we
would
have
would
really
be
the
the
you
know
this
area
on
this
on
the
south
side
of
Keystone.
You
know
those
were
those
were
if
I
recall
correctly
were,
were
RPD
type
developments
back
in
the
day,
so
everything,
but
in
this
area
I
mean
at
North.
Lake
Estates
is
an
RPD
larger
lot.
I
mean
they're
they're,
because
that's
at
a
half
a
unit
per
they're,
much
they're,
larger
Lots
in
the
North
Lake
Estates
directly
adjacent
to
it,
but
those,
but
they
did.
AF
D
D
W
But
then
we're
cramming
them
into
an
area
that
is:
is
it
29
or
21
100
square
feet.
AF
W
We're
on
I'm
sorry
and
that's
why
no
no
worries
but
we're
we're
working
on
building
only
on
21
of
the
Acres
correct.
W
Could
I
say
I
have
literally
so
many
questions
on
here?
Was
there
something
negative
that
you
were
going
to
put
on
here,
because
everything
that
I
read
was
a
positive?
It
was
a
Shining.
Light
It
was
a
so
was
there
anything
negative.
AF
To
me,
the
compatibility
issue
is
I.
Don't
know
that
it's
negative,
it's
an
issue
of
concern
and
that's
why
we
called
it
out
and
specifically
talked
about
it,
and
then
you
just
have
the
absolute
reality
of
yes
you're
going
from
what
would
be
30
000
square
foot,
lots
to
a
you
know
to
small.
You
know
to
a
small
cluster
small
lot,
cluster
development.
AF
So
you
know
so
we're
we
didn't
make
a
recommendation.
You
know
I
think
it's
largely
compliant
with
the
RPD
standards.
I
think
the
compatibility
is
the
is
the
question
mark.
W
So
around
the
area,
as
we
all
know,
it's
got
two
acre
plus
properties
that
have
a
nice
value
now
in
a
lot
of
the
criteria.
You'll
have
a
situation
where
we
don't
want
to
build
anything
that
will
devalue
that
area.
Is
there
anything
in
these
criteria
by
building
something
very
small
that
would
devalue?
AF
I
mean
you
do
have
a
review
standards
that
that
talks
to
adversely
affecting
property
values.
Again,
that's
that
can
be.
We've
talked
about
this.
Before
that,
can
that
can
cut
both
ways?
Some
people
don't
want
their
property
values
to
go
up
some
people.
You
know
some
people
do
so
I
mean
you
know.
In
this
instance
you
know
the
property
values
would
you
know
logically,
would
increase
on
the
site.
Does
that
does
that
increase
and
make
their
properties
more
valuable,
potentially
for
future
development?
W
So,
in
part
of
this
and
I
highlighted,
you
have
Tarpon
Springs
Land
Development
code
148-02b.
It
allows
the
unified
development
of
parcels
containing
preservation
areas
to
develop
at
the
density
allowed
for
the
entire
site
by
concentrating
the
development
rights
on
non-environmentally
sensitive
portions
of
the
site,
which
is
what
they're
trying
to
do
and
I
understand
that.
W
But
on
right
below
it,
it
says
to
be
assigned
to
Wetland
habitat
for
the
purpose
of
transferring
out
of
wetlands
and
up
to
the
rate
of
one
unit
per
acre,
but
they're
really
not
doing
one
acre
per
area
they're
doing
one
acre
per
area
for
the
whole
site,
not
just
for
where
they're
building.
AF
That
what
you're
reading
is
the
is
the
density
averaging
and
density
transfer
provisions
of
the
Land
Development
code.
So
there
is
an
incentive
in
the
Land
Development
code
that
to
to
incentivize,
rather
than
impacting
those
wetlands
and
trying
to
build
on
them
to
set
them
aside
and
be
able
to
transfer
that
density
to
the
usable
Uplands
of
the
site.
That's
what
they're
proposing
to
do
I.
W
Understand
that,
but
at
the
point
they're
making
these
so
small
that
I
don't
even
know
what
number
you
could
put
on
it,
but
you
know
at
seven
thousand
square
feet
per
lot:
you're,
not
in
anywhere
near
comparison
to
what's
in
that
vicinity
and
the
next
line
it
says:
Tarpon
Springs,
Land,
Development
code
section
allows
density
to
be
laid
out
on
site
for
the
purpose
of
conserving
open
space,
providing
there's
no
increase
in
density
on
the
site
as
a
whole,
but
it
actually
is
because
it's
increasing
density
in
the
building
section
of
it
I
know
you're
going
to
tell
me
it's
the
whole
I'm
aware
of
that
I'm
not
reading
it.
D
W
You
have
anything
I
could
ask
questions.
I
know
that
right,
like
I
said
I
have
I,
could
sit
here
and
ask
you.
I
have
so
many
questions
on
here.
I'll
just
go
through
a
few
more
and
then
I.
W
AF
AF
W
Why
was
most
of
the
approval
done
outside
of
Tarpon
Springs,
most
of
their?
The
board
of
adjustments
that
they
went
before
was
the
board
of
adjustments
in
Pinellas
County.
It
wasn't
ours
and
I
know
it's
because
of
of
Keystone
but
they're
getting
their
water,
their
sewer,
their
supplies,
everything
from
outside.
So
why
are
they
even
involved
with
Tarpon.
AF
The
property
was
annexed
in
years
ago,
so
it's
under
our
jurisdiction,
for
the
purposes
of
you
know
how
they
build.
There
are
certain
elements
that
still
have
to
be
approved
by
Pinellas
County
and
they
will
have
a
hand
in
approving
you
know
in
in
the
the
final
plan
development
process
they've
been
involved
already,
they
do
provide
water,
they
do
provide
sewer.
The
property
was
annexed
and
years
ago.
I
can't
speak
to
you
know,
I
can
only
I
can
only
apply
what
is
in
our
Land
Development
regulations
now,
and
we
have
jurisdiction
over
the
property,
but.
W
We've
brought
up
them
before
when
we're
annexing
in
a
property
that
we
should
be
dealing
with
this
from
the
get-go,
not
halfway
through
the
annexy,
not
the
annexing
the
the
approvals,
the
board
of
adjustments,
they've
gone
through
some
of
the
criteria
and
some
of
the
hurdles,
and
now
the.
AF
AF
So
annexations
took
place
in
2006.
They
took
place
in
2007
and
I
believe
they
took
place
in
2018.,
so
in
different
pieces
annexed
in
that's
in
the
past
I.
You
know
that
I
can't
change
that
the
the
the
because
the
Rope
Keystone
road
is
a
Pinellas
County,
Road
and
Highland
is
a
Pinellas
County
Road.
They
have
jurisdiction
over
the
entrance
ways,
and
so
they
required
in
order
for
them
to
take
an
access
off
of
Keystone
Road.
AF
They
had
to
go
to
the
Pinellas
County
Board
of
adjustments
to
alter
to
alter
that
that's.
This
was
their
jurisdiction,
it's
their
Road.
They
have
to
ultimately
approve
the
entrance
configuration
the
trail
configuration
all
that
still
has
to
be
approved
by
Pinellas
County
before
they
can
come
back
and
have
a
final
development
plan
approved
by
this
board.
It's
it
I
can't
change.
What's
happened
in
the
past,
I
can
only
I
can
only
Bring
It
Forward
under
under
its
how
it's
being
presented
today.
Q
W
Is
a
Superior
alternative.
AF
That
is
so,
if
you're
approving
a
or
considering
a
waiver
to
the
plan
development
criteria
to
a
design
criteria,
one
of
the
ways
that
you
can
approve
that
there
are
multiple
criteria,
one
is
superior
alternative.
In
this
instance,
we
agree
that
having
one
wide
eight
foot
sidewalk
on
the
side
of
the
of
the
proposed
development
there's
no
homes
on
the
other
side
and
the
fact
that
that
connects
to
the
Pinellas
Trail,
so
people
are
going
to
have
bicycles
on
it.
AF
We
think
that
that's
a
superior
alternative
to
having
a
four
foot
sidewalk
on
each
side
of
the
street
when
there's
no
homes
on
that
other
side
of
the
street,
so
they're
talking.
This
is
the
homes
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
the
road
that
the
entrance
Road
into
the
to
the
project.
There
are
no
homes
on
the
other
side,
so
the
need
for
a
sidewalk
over.
There
is
greatly
diminished
you.
They
do
have
to
connect
to
the
Pinellas
Trail
and
cross
the
Pinellas
Trail.
So
a
single
eight
foot
wide
sidewalk
on
the
west.
AF
W
AF
Yeah
well
they've
reduced
the
impacts
of
the
project.
We've
we've
pushed
them
frankly
over.
You
know
the
course
of
we've
gone
through
half
a
dozen
TRC
reviews
and
they've
altered
and
amended
the
project
to
where
you
know,
they're,
not
requesting
waiver
they're,
not
impacting
Wetlands
they're,
not
requesting
waivers
to
Wetland
buffers.
They've
they've
modified
the
project
greatly.
W
See
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
why
I've
never
seen
that
we
were
given
what
you
know.
What
was
a
prior
request,
and
you
know
they
should
have
just
said
it.
You
know
they
want
51
properties,
why
it
said
you
know
that
it
was
65
and
now
it's
51,
but
you
know
it
just
it
just
makes
me
think
that
they,
somebody
did
us
tarping
a
favor
by
reducing
it
down.
I,
don't
know
if
you
follow
it
like
that,
but
okay,
I
have
no
further
I.
W
X
Renee
right
now,
the
property
permitted
by
right
how
many
units
can
be
on
there
with
that?
Thirty
thousand
foot
property.
AF
So
our
just
to
kind
of
highlight
that
I'm
looking
for
the
so
we
looked
at
the
available
Upland,
that's
a
designated
Agricultural,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
the
available
up
one
that's
designated
RPD,
and
so
when
we
do
the
math
and
again
this
is
really
rough
back
of
the
envelope
calculation.
You
know
we
estimate
about.
27
units
could
could
potentially
be
put
on
the
property.
Y
X
And
south
into
the
neighborhood
and
the
request
for
a
residential
plan
development,
those
highlighted
areas
are
other
residential
plan
developments
in
in
the
community.
AF
So
on
this
map,
yeah,
anything
that
you
see
in
this
yellow
is
actually
an
RPD.
This
one
obviously
was
not
built,
but
yes,
so
this
you
know
the
south
side
of
Keystone
Lexington
Place
area,
that's
an
RPD!
You
have
some
further
down
here,
so
those
are
all
residential
plan
developments.
The
areas
that
are
do
not
do
not
have
any
color
on
them.
Those
are
unincorporated
Pinellas
County,
and
that
is
largely
that
you
know
residential
agriculture,
zoning.
X
We
we
had
talked
about
briefly
on
item
nine,
coming
up
the
Land
Development
code,
smart
code,
comprehensive
plan
amendments
once
those
are
changed
and
take
a
second
to
look
at
all
of
them,
including
the
coastal
hide,
Hazard
and
conditional
use
and
a
few
of
the
other
ones.
With
that,
the
way
this
project
is
currently
presented
right
now,
would
those
changes
have
a
negative
or
positive
impact
on
the
application's
presentation,
I.
AF
Mean
I
think
it
would
be
largely
negligible.
Frankly,
the
so
the
the
change
that
could
potentially
be
considered
would
be
the
change
to
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan
that
are
being
proposed.
So
if
you
recall,
we
have
policies
that
basically
state
that
you
know
where
you
cannot
show
sufficient
shelter
space
that
well.
Let
me
let
me
back
up
from
future
land
use
map
to
also
include
rezonings,
conditional
uses
and
residential
plan
developments,
because
rpds
are
essentially
already
zoning.
AF
So
in
that
context
you
would
at
least
be
able
to
consider.
Is
it
appropriate
because
of
coastal
Hazard
area
context
to
approve
that
RPD
and
is
it
detrimental?
You
know
in
some
way
because
of
coastal
Hazard
area,
so
I
don't
have
a
slide.
That
shows
that,
but
in
this
so
the
other
policy,
then
that
comes
into
play
it.
Basically,
we
have
a
policy
that
says
where
you
can't,
you
know
show
that
there's
sufficient
shelter
space
available
to
limit
density
to
five
units
to
the
acre.
AF
Well,
we're
already
already
done
at
one
unit
per
acre
here
on
density,
so
I,
don't
really
feel
like
that.
That
policy
would
have
a
huge
impact,
but
it's
also
something
that
obviously
I
don't
have
the
latitude
to
make
that
decision
it.
It
would
be
something
that
would
come
to
the
board.
The
the
coastal
Hazard
area
of
this
property
is
essentially
it's
the
wetlands
themselves
and
a
small
part
of
this
residential.
This
RPD
piece
there's
some
that
is
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
The
rest
is
not
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
X
Yeah
I
think
it
led
me
in
a
direction
my
I
I
understand
the
cluster
and
being
able
to
and
like
and
I'm
just
going
to
ask
it
in
a
question
to
the
way
the
planned
development
is
in.
Its
cluster
form
will
still
relate
to
one
house
per
acre
of
the
whole
property.
Yes,.
AF
X
X
And
you
said:
Pinellas
County.
The
only
approval
waiting
for
Pinellas
County
is
that
eight
foot
wide
sidewalk
the.
AF
The
actual
connection
so
and
I
think
they
have
a
this,
the
diagram
that
they
will
show,
but
the
the
actual
connection
Point
itself,
the
design
of
that
of
that
road
connection
to
Keystone
Road
has
not
officially
been
approved
by
Pinellas
County,
so
that
still
has
to
take
place.
The
crossing
of
the
trail,
the
trail
connection,
so
we
have
to
have
that
as
part
of
the
final
plan
development.
Thank.
P
W
Just
didn't
want
to
hold
up
the
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you.
You
have
here
a
comment
that
says:
12
elements
were
reviewed.
Five
elements
were
particularly
applicable.
What
happened
to
the
other
seven.
AF
W
On
another
sheet,
it
says
the
layout
preserves
the
rural
estate
parcel
and
character
of
the
surrounding
area.
I
did
touch
base
with
that
before,
but
how?
How
could
that
be
written
and
that
that
wouldn't
be
classified
rural.
AF
It's
it's.
It's
still
one
unit
per
acre,
even
though
it's
clustered
they
have
buffered
the
project
from
the
adjacent,
larger
lots
and
I
mean
that
and
and
they're
they're
maintaining
and
putting
preserving
all
of
the
Wetland
areas.
So
with
the
buffering
and
with
you
know
not
increasing
the
density
anymore,
you
know
we
find
that
it's
you
know
meets
that
that
standard.
W
AF
That
that
is
a
question
mark
to
be
answered.
We
Pinellas
County
has
jurisdiction
over
that
whether
or
not
the
there's
sewer
available
within
a
prescribed
distance
that
they
can
mandate
that
that
lot
hook
up
to
it.
So
it's
whether
whether
that's
Pinellas
County's
jurisdiction
to
so
we
want
the
restrictive
covenant
that
basically
says
you
can
have
one
unit.
Unless
you
can
get
sewer
and
then
potentially
you
could
have
two
units
there.
W
AF
W
Others
I'm
sitting.
W
Over
I
don't
know
whether
I
should
be
sitting
on
that
board
of
this
board.
So
just
a
couple
more
and
I'm
I'm
done
the
setbacks.
W
AF
W
I
understand,
but
six
and
a
half
years
I
sat
on
the
board
of
adjustments.
We
don't
nobody
would
give
that
kind
of
a
a
variance
change.
That's
extensive!
That's
that's!
A
large
you're
not
going
from
20
to
18
you're,
not
going
from
20
to
17
you're
buying
two
three
feet
is
a
lot
here:
you're
buying
15
feet,
I
mean.
Would
you
not
say
that's
a
lot.
AF
W
Okay,
I'm
just
bringing
up
the
things
that
are
making
me
understand.
That's
all.
AG
V
So
one
of
the
questions
I
had
Renee
was
the
the
rear,
setbacks
and
then
also
the
buffer,
the
rear
on
the
east
side
of
the
property.
There's
four
Lots
there's
a
lot
more
than
four
Lots,
there's
kind
of
a
cut
out
looks
like
coach
or
some
other
neighboring
buildings.
V
V
AF
V
AF
AF
V
V
AF
Right
so
the
yeah,
the
setback,
there's
a
30-foot
buffer
and
then
there's
the
lot
lines
and
the
setback
for
the
10-foot
setback
is
from
the
lot
lines.
So
that
asking
ask
the
developer.
They
probably
can
go
into
more
more
detail,
but
our
this
is
a
30
foot,
a
30-foot
buffer
along
these
lots,
and
then
it
increases
here
up
to.
Is
it
50
feet?
I
think
it's
50
foot
along
here,
so
the
platted
lots
of
these
little
dotted
lines
in
here.
That's
where
your
10
foot,
your
rear
yard
setbacks
would
be
measured
from.
AF
V
A
A
A
An
RPD
I
know
it's
a
residential
plan
development.
Sometimes
our
our
code
tends
to
drop
a
word
every
now
and
then
is
that
a
form
of
a
PUD,
a
planned
unit,
development,
correct,
okay,
I
know
that
I've
seen
RPD
is
referred
to
as
residential
pod
or
res,
or
an
rpud
right.
E
A
In
the
conservation
easements
that
are
being
proposed,
it's
still
a
little
bit
of
a
mystery
to
me
because
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
information
on
it
and
but
in
your
conditions,
the
homeowners
association
is
responsible
for
maintaining
the
easements
maintenance
of
easements
and
encroachments
as
well.
I
think
that
was
in
your
conditions
in
in
your
in
your
written
conditions,.
AF
So
there's
there's
two
there's
two
conditions:
one
is
specific
to
the
lot
51
and
because
that
lot
is
proposed
to
have
Wetland
ownership
of
these
Wetlands
sit
there.
So
there
would
be
a
separate
restrictive
covenant
for
that
property
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
defer
to
the
applicant
about
I
mean
our
initial
understanding
was
that
all
the
wetlands
would
be
you
know,
under
control
and
maintained
by
the
HOA
I
do
not
believe
that
is
their
intent.
So
it's
something
that
we
should
get
clarified
by
them
through
the
course
of
the
evening,
because
I
believe
this.
AF
We
wanted
a
restrictive
covenant
on
this
to
protect
it
so
that
in
the
future,
if
the
property's
bought
and
sold
there's
a
recorded,
restrictive
covenant.
That
basically
says
these
Wetlands
can't
be
touched
and
that
there's
no
remaining
density
on
them.
Essentially
because
the
density
is
part
of
this.
This
plan
developed
the
the
50
units
is.
AF
Do
not
want
it
legally
Legally
it's
going
to
be
planted
as
part
of
the
RPD,
so
it's
it's
part
of
the
RPD
I.
You
know
they.
What
they're
requesting
is
that
it
not
be
part
of
the
HOA
under
the
HOA
control
right
and
that
that
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
requires
that
or
that
prohibits
that
type
of
a
of
a
structure,
but
it's
it's
not,
but.
A
Under
your
traditional
planned
unit
developments,
an
haoa
is
basically
responsible
for
everything
right:
the
maintenance,
everything
correct
that
is
common,
correct,
which
includes
conservation
easily.
Yes,
and
in
this
particular
case,
if
the
RPD
is
a
form
of
a
PUD,
we're
bifurcating
lot,
51's
responsibility
away
from
the
homeowners
association.
A
Also
I
appreciated
you
sending
us
the
applicants
report
presentation
that
don't
make
tonight
I
know
you've
had
some
comments
concerning
compatibility
in
a
report.
It's
black
and
white
they're
saying
that
the
staff
basically
represents
that
this
project
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area,
as
we
would
traditionally
as
traditionally
you
would
make
that
presentation.
Is
that
your
is
that
the
case
in
your
mind,
I.
AF
Think,
there's
still
a
question
of
compatibility
between
the
the
Suburban
development.
You
know
the
development
pattern
and
the
potential
agricultural
uses
and
the
things
that
could
could
occur
in
that
unincorporated
County
area.
So
no
I,
don't
think
that's.
You
know
an
accurate
statement
that
we
are
100
percent.
Think
that
this
is,
you
know,
meets
every
compatibility
test
at
this
point.
Okay,.
A
Getting
back
to
what
vice
mayor
Lunt
had
said,
our
Quest
asked
a
question.
You
might
understand
that
the
borrow
pit
it's
it's
in
the
old
days.
It
was
called
The,
Lemon
pit.
It
was
some.
There
was
some
issues
with
pollutants
in
that
area.
A
It's
going
to
be
recreational
waterborne
activities
and
it's
being
hailed
as
a
recreational
component
of
the
project.
Is
that
correct.
AF
It
is
part
of
the
drainage
solution.
Yes,
okay,.
D
A
D
AF
A
AF
Requirement
you
know
that
the
the
actual
access
has
to
be
approved
by
Pinellas
County
and
then
we're
looking
for
the
you
know
the
trail
connection,
but
nothing
other
than
that.
A
Was
there
any
discussion
about
the
circulation
about
people
leaving
and
if
they
want
to
head
east,
what
do
they
have
to
do
to
head
east
or
anything
like
that?
I.
AF
About
no,
not
because
it's
you
know,
we
know
what
that
you
know.
That's
the
situation.
You
know
they're
not
going
to
get
a.
A
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
I'll
ask
the
applicant
I
think
that's
all
I
have
MS
Vincent,
okay,
okay!
So
that's,
commissioner,
unless,
commissioner
do
any
of
you
have
any
follow-up
questions
last
call
commissioner
Carr.
V
Renee
from
a
transportation
standpoint,
obviously
the
bike
trail
runs
along
that
into
Pinellas.
Trail
is
there?
Could
there
be
a
requirement
to
put
something
in
as
like
a
seating
area
or
a
shaded
area
for
bicyclists.
AF
You
could
ask
I
think
yeah,
you
could
ask
that
I
think
that's!
You
know
it
would
be
an
appropriate
amenity.
AK
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
Brian,
unk625,
Court
Street
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
and
the
owner,
and
at
this
time
I
don't
think
I
have
any
questions
for
Miss
Benson.
AK
A
You,
sir,
the
affected
parties
that
are
here
you
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
is
Vincent
any
questions
concerning
her
presentation.
If
you,
you
would
like
any
clarification
that
you
would
need
or
or
anything,
it's
your
turn.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
ask
those
questions.
AI
AI
A
A
AF
A
A
Would
you
just
as
a
courtesy,
would
you
come
forward
again
and
do
that
on
the
record
on
the
tape,
it's
the
whole
meetings
being
televised
and
reported?
Can
would
you
like
to
do
that
now?
Both
of
you
both
of
them
is
that
correct
is
Ms.
Manusa
spoke,
sir.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward
as
well,
we
just.
AF
A
AK
Mr
Mayor
Commissioners
Brian
angst,
a
625,
Court
Street
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
and
the
property
owner.
We
do
have
a
PowerPoint
presentation,
but
before
we
get
into
that,
Mr
Mayor,
just
the
technicalities
in
terms
of
moving
evidence
into
the
record
I,
would
like
the
commission
to
accept
the
full
application,
as
it
was
presented
to
the
staff
and
reviewed
by
the
staff
and
presented
to
the
pnz
for
the
recommendation.
AK
Unchanged
unaltered
as
evidence
tonight
and
also
I
have
submitted
four
resumes
of
our
expert
witnesses
that
were
previously
provided
to
the
staff
previously
provided
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
Those
experts
are
Mr,
Robert,
falp,
PE,
he's
a
transportation
engineer
and
planner
Mr
R,
Trent,
Stevenson,
PE,
he's
a
civil
engineer.
Dr
Donald
Richardson
he's
an
ecologist
and
a
biologist,
Dr
and
Mr
Michael
gagne
PE
he's
a
civil
engineer
who
conducted
the
geotechnical
survey
and
then
finally,
Mr
Reed,
Hayden,
PE
who's,
a
civil
engineer
and
the
developer.
AL
A
That
what
you're
concerning
that's
what
you
can
see,
that's
what
you're
talking
about
is
that
correct.
AK
You
good
evening
again,
Mr
Mayor,
Commissioners,
Brian
angst
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
I
am
trying
to
get
this
to
move.
AL
AK
Mr
Mayor
you've
had
a
lot
of
information.
A
lot
of
questions,
I'm
going
to
try
to
focus
on
answering
the
questions
you
have,
Mr,
Hayden
and
I
will
be
handling
the
initial
presentation.
Our
experts
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
as
detailed
as
you
want
to
get
into.
This
is
our
opportunity
and
your
opportunity
to
fully
and
publicly
vet
the
project.
I
do
want
to
start
out
again,
just
by
saying
thank
you
to
your
staff,
director,
Vincent
Miss
McNeese
and
your
entire
TRC
as
Miss
as
Miss
Vincent
said.
AK
You'll
agree
is
sustainable,
smart,
ecologically,
friendly,
biologically
friendly
development
that
will
activate
a
community
and
provides
for
some
mid-market
level
housing
which
is
much
needed
throughout
our
community.
So
I
want
to
thank
them
for
that.
I
want
to
thank
them
for
their
feedback.
AK
I
do
want
to
point
out
on
the
record,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
say
and
I
think
it's
important
to
you
all
that
at
no
point
throughout
our
present
or
our
Communications
with
the
staff
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
have
we
ever
asked
for
an
amendment
to
your
code
to
benefit
the
project.
At
no
point
have
we
ever
done
that
at
every
Point
we've
taken
the
feedback,
the
thoughtful
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
your
staff
and
we've
Incorporated
it
and
we've
redesigned
the
project
to
the
point
where
it's
gotten
here
tonight.
AK
I
also
want
to
point
out
to
commissioner
Eisner.
We
would
never
voluntarily
go
to
Pinellas
County
for
an
approval
that
we
didn't
absolutely
have
to
get
from
them
that
wasn't
under
their
jurisdiction
and
so
the
the
issue
related
to
the
connection
to
Keystone
Road
as
opposed
to
Highland.
We
wanted
to
provide
you
an
RPD
site
plan
that
shows
you
where
the
connection
was
actually
going
to
go
once
we
knew
with
confidence
that
the
county
was
going
to
support
it.
AK
The
county
initially
wanted
the
connection
to
go
through
the
wetlands
and
connect
to
Highland,
which
would
have
been
very
disruptive
to
the
estate
Lots
in
that
area
and
which
would
have
had
major
impacts
to
the
wetlands.
We
didn't
think
that
was
a
good
idea.
Our
traffic
planning,
expert,
Mr
fault
and
Mr
Steve
Henry
didn't
think
that
was
a
good
idea
and
we
were
able
to
obtain
a
waiver
at
a
public
hearing
in
front
of
the
board
of
adjustment
so
that
we
were
guaranteed
to
get
the
Keystone
Road
connection.
AK
What
we're
working
through
now
and
I'll
touch
on
it
a
little
bit
later
in
the
in
the
presentation
is
a
right-of-way
use
permit.
So
the
Keystone
Road
connection
has
been
approved
as
a
waiver,
and
all
we
need
to
get
is
the
right-of-way
use
permit.
We
only
have
three
comments
left
when
we're
in
front
of
the
pnz.
There
were
nine
comments
on
November
30th.
We
got
an
updated
letter
from
the
county.
There
are
only
three
comments
left,
so
we
didn't
want
to
come
and
show
you
a
plan
that
we
didn't
have
reasonable.
AK
Confidence
was
going
to
be
finally
approved
by
the
county
and
we're
in
that
position
today,
and
we
thought
that
was
an
important
step
to
go
through.
We
certainly
didn't
want
to
impact
the
wetlands
and
we
certainly
didn't
want
to
go
through
that
Highland
connection
unless
we
lost
that
public
hearing,
at
which
point
you
know,
this
whole
thing
would
have
looked
completely
different,
which
is
why
we
went
through
that
process
up
front,
but
I
do
want
you
to
know.
It's
been.
AK
It's
been
a
very,
very
deliberately
and
collaborately
developed
project
and
we
think
a
very
smartly
developed
project
so
just
to
kick
it
off,
highlighting
the
staff
report,
the
very
detailed
staff
report,
as
Miss
Vincent
said,
they
reviewed
all
of
the
elements
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
see
if
they
thought
it
was
consistent
with
those
plan
elements,
and
the
answer
was
that
it
was
consistent
and
complies
and
adheres
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
That
was
the
ultimate
conclusion
in
the
staff
report.
Now,
as
mayor
vatic
Yodas
pointed
out,
the
land
use
compatibility,
Mr
Mayor.
AK
What
I'm
talking
about
is
the
staff
report
page
seven
and
also
the
staff's
PowerPoint
slide
number
two
and
basically,
what
they
say
is
physical
character
and
compatibility,
see
staff
reports,
pages
eight
and
nine.
The
site
is
suitable
in
location
area
and
character
for
the
proposed
development
located
in
a
sparsely
developed
portion
of
the
city
county
and
developing
at
the
city's
lowest
available
density.
So
again
we
are
residential,
very
low.
This
one
unit
per
acre
is
the
lowest
available
density.
We
are
not
asking
for
a
land
use
Amendment.
AK
We
are
not
asking
to
increase
the
density,
we're
actually
below
the
52
units
that
we
would
be
entitled
to
as
of
right
under
the
future
land
use
category,
and
then
the
staff
report
goes
on,
and
this
is
the
staff
PowerPoint
goes
on
to
say,
clustered
subdivision
layout
and
reasonably
large
Lots
maximizes
use
of
disturbed
Uplands
orients
towards
the
South
and
the
estate
parcel,
which
I
think
Mr
Eisner
was
pointing
out.
That's
lot
51
and,
and
so
that's
distinguished
from
the
50
unit
cluster
development.
AK
So
when
we
said
in
this
PowerPoint
that
the
staff
found
the
land
use,
compatibility
and
compatibility,
we
were
referencing
those
sections
of
the
staff
report
as
it
relates
to
the
agricultural
uses
in
the
unincorporated
Pinellas
County
area
to
the
east.
We
have
agreed
and
the
pnz
you
know
thoroughly
vetted
that
with
us.
AK
Now
again,
an
outdoor
shooting
range
is
a
conditional
use
in
the
county
that
would
require
a
public
hearing
and
require
public
notice
to
all
of
the
applicants
or
to
all
of
the
people
in
our
in
our
community,
so
that
disclosure
is
going
to
be
made
I,
don't
think
the
staff
is
saying
that
they're
concerned
that
our
use
is
going
to
degrade
or
have
compatibility
problems
with
the
agriculture
use.
I
think
they're
concerned
that
the
the
users
of
our
end
product
would
be
aware
of
the
noise
and
the
potential
agricultural
uses.
AK
And
again
the
vast
majority
of
those
uses
in
the
area
are
for
single-family
homes
on
larger
lot
size.
So
the
staff
evaluated
plan
and
found
that
it
was
consistent
with
all
12
of
those
review
criteria
and
that's
clear
in
the
staff
report.
They've
next
reviewed
the
RPD
zoning
criteria,
the
approval
criteria
and
those
are
somewhat
similar,
a
little
less
entailed.
AK
But
the
staff
also
found
that
this
met
all
of
the
Land
Development
code
and
comprehensive
plan
requirements
for
the
RPD
rezoning,
including
the
cluster
development
and
as
Miss
Vincent
stated,
the
cluster
development
is
designed
to
incentivize
smart
cluster
development.
On
environmentally
and
ecologically
appropriate
areas
of
Upland
and
preserve
and
conserve
and
mitigate
and
remediate
environmentally
sensitive
areas
and
I
think
what
we're
proposing
is
exactly
in
line
with
with
what
Miss
Ilias
discussed
during
her
public
comments
about
Wetland
preservation,
smart
Redevelopment
and
preserving
and
kind
of
Bio
bio
planning.
AK
It
really
is
what
I
think
she
was
talking
about
and
I
think
this
project
meets
that
criteria,
so
I
just
want
to
make
get
clear
again.
There
is
no
Amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
that's
being
requested,
there's
no
future
land
use
Amendment.
We
comply
with
the
density,
we're
not
asking
for
an
increase
in
density
in
this
RPD.
The
only
one
waiver,
as
we've
discussed,
is
for
instead
of
two
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
leading
out
to
the
Pinellas
Trail.
AK
We
want
one
eight
foot
wide
wide
walk
which
would
be
on
the
east
side,
which
is
where
the
homes
are
that
that
solution,
or
that
request,
has
been
endorsed
by
both
your
staff
and
by
Pinellas
County
staff,
who
have
to
approve
the
connection
to
the
trail.
So,
as
commissioner
Eisner
pointed
out,
we've
got
a
multi-layer
jurisdictional
review
of
this
connection.
AK
So
if,
if,
if
the
commission
said,
we
want
you
to
have
two
five
foot
side
wide
sidewalks
and
the
county
came
back
and
said,
we're
not
going
to
prove
your
right-of-way
use
permit,
because
we
only
want
you
to
have
one
eight
foot
wide
wide
walk.
That
would
be
a
conflict
for
us.
We'd
have
to
come
back
here
and
do
this
all
over
again,
so
we've
reached
that
solution
administratively,
as
a
recommendation
for
your
consideration.
AK
So
that
is
one
one
waiver
that
we're
asking
for
for
you
to
approve
tonight
is
for
the
one
eight
foot
wide
wide
walk
as
opposed
to
two
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
and
Miss,
Vince
and
I
think
did
a
great
job
of
explaining
that,
on
page,
seven
of
the
staff
report
I
think
this
is
this
really
stood
out
to
me.
AK
I
mean
there's
a
table
where
Miss
McNeese
actually
lists
out
each
and
every
goal
and
objective
of
your
comprehensive
plan
that
applies
to
this
project
and
and
this
project
meets
and
is
supported
by,
and
that
is
28
total
objectives,
I'm
sorry,
30,
total
objectives
and
policies.
So
two
objectives
and
28
individual
policies
that
are
listed
out.
AK
I
think
that
means
that
this
project
brings
a
lot
to
the
table
in
terms
of
what
your
law
is
and
what
what
the
legislation
that
has
been
developed
by
the
city
is
supportive
of
and
I
think
it
was
I
really
appreciated
the
question
regarding
what
about
these
amendments
that
are
coming
up?
How
would
this
affected
and
what
Ms
Vincent
said
it
would
be
very
negligible,
in
other
words,
not
really
any
impact
whatsoever.
AK
So
I
think
that
this
is
still
obviously
you're
applying
the
laws
it's
written
tonight,
not
as
it
may
be
amended
in
the
future,
but
I
think
this
still
fits
in
with
the
vision
that
the
staff
has
directed
us
to
you
know
to
be
to
comply
with
the
project
is
one
and
a
half
miles
to
the
east
of
US
19
and
it
fits
in
well
with
the
existing
uses
within
the
overall
vicinity.
AK
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
map
of
the
of
the
current
land
uses
and
I
think
you
can
see
the
transitioning
that's
going
through,
and
primarily
the
uses
in
the
area
are
single
family
detached
homes,
Town
Homes,
which
are
right
across
the
street.
Lexington
Place
is
a
multi-family
Town
Home
Development,
literally
directly
across
the
street,
from
the
property,
and
then
you've
got
rpds
and
single-family
cluster
developments
all
throughout
the
area
and
also
commercial
uses.
As
you
get
closer
to
us,
19.
AK
I'm
going
to
use
a
pointer
I'm
going
to
try
my
hardest,
not
to
point
it
at
anybody.
Okay.
So
this
is
our
lot
here.
Our
our
property,
the
52
acres
and
anything
in
in
yellow
or
orange
here
is
multi-family,
so
these
are
town
homes
and
so
directly
across
the
street.
You
have
Lexington.
So
obviously
you
know,
townhomes
and
multi-family
I
think
are
are
high,
are
more
dense
than
single
family
developments
and
I
think
you
can
see
again
how
this
is
a
mix
of
uses.
AK
This
whole
area
is
clustered
single-family
homes,
consistent
with
what
we're
proposing,
as
is
this
area
of
unincorporated
Pinellas
County.
This
is
a
new
RPD
development
that
is
going
in
at
44
units
and
that's
on
North
Highland
that
has
already
been
approved
and
I
believe
it's
going
through
the
the
building
permit
process
and
again
this
area
here
on
US
19
is
all
commercial,
so
we've
got
a
mix
of
multi-family
single
family,
detached
dwelling
and
I
think
that
what
we're
demonstrating
here
again
is
this
is
not
wildly
out
of
in
our
view,
respectfully.
AK
This
is
not
wildly
inconsistent
with
the
development
pattern.
It's
wholly
consistent
with
the
development
pattern
and
clustering.
These
lots
and
providing
extremely
generous
buffering
and
setbacks,
which
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
later,
I
think
demonstrates
the
the
transitioning
that
we're
doing
here
and
the
the
buffering
and
the
consideration
we've
given
to
the
neighboring
uses
that
are
in
unincorporated
Pinellas
County.
Let's
see,
I
think
I've
already
discussed
this
the
clustering.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
site
plan.
AK
We
do
have
60
foot
setbacks
on
this
perv.
This
portion
I
think.
Let
me
zoom
in
here
a
little
bit
okay.
So
this
is
the.
This
is
a
more
detailed
portion
of
the
50
unit
area
cluster
lot
and
then
this
shows
the
51st
lot.
This
is
the
lot
51..
This
is
on
Highland.
This
lot
is
not
being
developed
when
you
look
at
this
you'll
see,
there's
no
home.
That's
currently
planned
for
this.
AK
So
yes,
it's
part
of
the
RPD,
but
at
this
point
it's
being
included
as
part
of
the
density
transferring
it
will
not
be
allowed
to
be
developed
for
anything
other
than
a
single
family,
one
home.
If
we
were
ever
to
try
to
subdivide
it,
we'd
have
to
come
back
and
amend
the
RPD
and
go
back
through
pnz
back
through
trz
TRC
and
then
back
before
the
commission.
At
this
point,
there's
no
plan
to
develop
this
lot
right
now.
AK
It
would
be
allowed
to
be
developed
as
a
single
family
detached
dwelling
similar
to
The
Smiths
residence,
which
is
up
here,
and
that
would
access
Highland,
but
there
is
no
interaction
at
all
between
this
development
from
a
traffic
perspective.
There's
no
way
to
get
from
here
to
here.
This
is
all
preserved
and
conserved
Wetlands
under
a
conservation
easement
with
a
significant
Wetland
buffer.
AK
Okay,
so
again,
we've
highlighted
this,
but
it
was
extremely
important
to
the
staff
and
important
for
us
to
point
out.
There
are
no
Wetland
impacts.
We
are
not
constructing
the
coastal
High
Hazard
flood
area.
All
of
the
construction
is
clustered
on
the
most
appropriate
Upland
property,
which
is
well
over
eight
to
ten
feet.
In
elevation,
we
have
22.6
areas
Acres
of
wetland
that
we
placed
under
conservation
easement,
currently
under
the
existing
entitlements
under
the
agricultural.
AK
We
only
need
a
15
foot
wide
buffer
to
the
wetlands,
but
under
this
RPD
we're
actually
expanding
that
to
50
feet,
we're
not
getting
Wetland
credits
from
Tallahassee.
You
know
we're
not
asking
you
for
any
waivers
related
to
Wetlands
and
I
think
this
is
a
objective
improvement
over
the
current
entitlements.
What
we're
proposing
so
we're
actually
adding
an
additional
3.2
Acres
of
buffering
to
the
open
space
by
increasing
that
setback
by
50
feet.
AK
Again,
13.1
Acres
of
open
space
is
required,
we're
providing
29.13
Acres
of
open
space.
That
means
55.8
percent
of
the
project
is
going
to
be
open
space
and
that
does
not
include
the
pond.
We
know
we've
heard
a
lot
about
the
pond,
we're
not
including
the
pond
in
that
29.13
Acres
of
open
space
requirement.
We
talked
about
the
Tot
Lot
I'm,
going
to
let
Mr
Hayden
discuss
that
you
know
I.
Think
Miss
Vincent
said
the
first
time
they'd
ever
done.
AK
The
mini
Park
math
was
for
this
project
and
we
didn't
really
have
the
benefit
of
that
math
until
the
Staff
report.
It's
the
first
time
we
read
the
4
000
square
feet
was
the
first
time
that
that
you
all
read
it
and
the
pnz
read
it.
We're
happy
to
have
a
condition
of
approval
that
we
will
comply
with
that.
That
is
not
a
problem.
We
think
we
provide
generous
recreational
activities.
We've
got
a
a
Tot
Lot,
which
is
go
back
to
my
pointer.
AK
Tight
lot
is
here.
The
pond
viewing
area
is
here:
the
kayak
launch
area
is
here
and
then
you
have.
You
know
280
000
square
feet
of
a
pond
which
you
know
we
don't
Envision
swimming
but
envisioned,
kayaking
and
active
non-motorized
type
Recreation,
and
all
of
that
would
be
dictated
by
the
Association
documents
and
and
would
be
restricted
in
terms
of
what
uses
can
be
done
in
that
in
that
area.
We
do
already
have
our
Swift
Mud
Erp.
Our
environmental
resource.
Permit
Swift
has
approved
the
Wetland
line
and
the
storm
water
management
design.
AK
I
think
that's
important
for
you
all
to
know
that
we've
gone
through
that
engineering
and
we've
gone
through
that
process,
and
then
this
is
a
quote
from
the
Pinellas
County
approval
letter
for
the
Keystone
Road
connection
and
the
access
to
Pinellas
Trail.
It
says
the
request
for
an
access
point
to
Keystone
Road
for
a
proposed
50
unit.
AM
Think,
yes,
sir
good
evening
Reed
Hayden
105
Bayside
Drive
Clearwater.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
It's
been
a
a
long
process.
We've
been
through
a
number
iterate
number
of
iterations
on
this
design.
I
think
Brian
pointed
out
how
thoughtful
staff
has
been
with
this
process
and,
of
course,
we've
been
through
six
trcs
each
time,
trying
to
refine
the
project
to
something
that
the
city
of
Tarpon
would
not
only
approve
but
appreciate
and
and
like
to
have
a
part
of
their
Community.
AM
There
were
a
number
of
comments
that
came
up
that
I'd
like
to
address.
Basically,
my
role
here
is
I'm
an
overall
project
manager,
so
I've
probably
got
the
most
intimate
knowledge
about
every
aspect
of
this
project,
but
we
do
have
with
us
all
of
our
expert
engineers
and
biologists
that
are
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
so
I
want
to
talk
about.
AM
So,
on
this
site
we
do
have
29
Acres
of
of
wetlands
and
actually
we're
gonna
have
29
Acres
of
open
space,
but
we
have
a
considerable
amount
of
wetlands.
You
see
here
and
this
project
this
land
before
was
used
for
this
was
a
commercial
borrow
pit
where
they
sold
their
fill
was
operated
that
way
for
many
years.
So
this
is
not
pristine
land
that
were
we're
impacting
here.
This
is
land.
That's
already
been
cleared.
AM
The
trees
have
already
been
cleared,
it's
already
been
mined
for
Phil,
it's
been
used
for
agricultural
uses,
so
what
we're
doing
is
we're
preserving
the
natural
features
such
as
these
Wetlands
here
and
giving
them
an
extended
buffer
per
the
RPD
code
and
then
developing
these
areas,
taking
advantage
of
these
areas
that
have
already
been
Disturbed
and
turning
it,
you
know
into
something:
that's
been
Disturbed
into
something.
Nice
provides
something
for
the
overall
community
of
city
of
Tarpon.
This
borrow
Pond
here.
When
we
talk
about
it
being
used
for
recreation.
AM
AM
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
amenity,
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
open
space
here
and
that
that's
the
nice
thing
about
this
community
and
as
far
as
providing
a
park
for
the
community
like
Brian,
said
we're
happy
to
add
as
a
condition
that
will
provide
that
minimum
amount
of
area
mini
Park.
That
was
a
new
criteria
to
us
that
came
with
the
staff
report.
So
we're
happy
to
do
that,
but
we
do
believe
that
we
provide
ample
Recreation
at
this
time.
AM
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
lot
51.
It
was
brought
up
about
the
Wetland
maintenance,
so
you
know
this
area
here
is
going
to
be.
You
know
one
one
lot,
and,
and
essentially
these
Wetlands,
you
know
as
they
stand
right
now.
These
are
giant
Wetlands,
I!
Think,
don't
it's
hard
to
conceive!
You
know
that
amount
of
acreage,
but
you
know
you
don't
really
maintain
them
in
the
sense
of
you
know:
you're
not
going
in
there
and
mowing
the
lawn
and
and
clipping
leaves
and
things
of
that
nature.
AM
You
know
having
this
50-foot
buffer
here,
provides
that
you
are
maintaining
and
getting
rid
of
invasives.
That
is
the
best
thing
you
can
do
for
these
wetlands
and
we've
got
our
ecologist
here
tonight.
Who
can
speak
more
about
that?
But
as
far
as
the
maintenance
of
these
Wetlands,
you
don't
really
go
you're
going
to
do
more
damage
going
into
the
Wetland
to
do
perform
any
maintenance.
AM
So
you
keep
these
buffers
here
so
that
you,
you
know
you
protect
them
that
way,
so
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
there,
but
we're
going
to
have
a
deed
restriction
on
this
lot.
That
says,
you
have
to
maintain
that,
so
that
is
going
to
be
a
requirement,
a
requirement
that
runs
with
the
land.
AM
This
this
lot
will
always
be
a
part
of
the
RPD
as
well
it'll
be
platted
with
the
RPD,
so
that
is
not
a
requirement
that
can
ever
go
away
and
then
once
this
project,
if
approved
this,
this
Wetland
will
go
into
a
conservation,
easement
and
it'll
never
go
away
and
that's
in
perpetuity.
It's
never
going
to
go
away.
So
we're
able
to
preserve
this
Wetland
through
this
project
and
through
plotting
this
project,
the
whoops.
AM
I
want
to
talk
about
the
setbacks
here
briefly,
because
I
do
believe
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
in
in
why
we
were
adamant
about
going
through
the
process
of
getting
our
connection
to
Keystone
Road
is
we
knew
that
the
community
along
North
Highland
was
a
community
that
would
not
they
would
not
want
these
Lots
accessing
North
Highland.
There
are
definite,
distinct
differences
between
the
communities
that
are
along
Keystone
Road,
the
residential
planned,
the
the
town
homes
across
the
street,
the
clustering
Lots
across
the
street,
all
this
single
family
home.
AM
That's
what
this
area
of
our
site
is
akin
to.
We
have
this
incredible
buffer
with
this
Recreation
Pond
and
the
29
Acres
of
open
space
in
between
us
and
the
North
Highland
community,
Pinellas
County
wanted
us
to
build
a
road
through
those
Wetlands.
We
had
to
fight
long
and
hard
for
six
months
to
and
took
it
all
the
way
to
the
appeal
process
so
that
we
could
connect
to
Keystone
road.
So
we
felt
that
was
a
smarter
design,
a
more
environmentally
friendly,
and
it
was
better
for
for
our
neighbors.
AM
So
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
did
have
to
go
deal
with
Pinellas
County
and,
of
course
you
know
in
having
to
deal
with
Pinellas,
County
I
think
also
shows
the
level
of
thought
we've
put
in
at
this
time,
normally
in
most
jurisdictions.
By
this
point
in
the
process
simply
getting
zoning
entitlements,
you
wouldn't
be
going
to
Swift
Mud,
yet
you
wouldn't
be
going
to
get
your
right
away
use
permit.
Yet
those
are
normally
things
that
take
place
much
further
down
the
process,
but
and
of
course,
even
with
city
of
Tarpon.
AM
Those
items
aren't
required
until
the
final
development
plan
stage,
but
we
wanted
to
put
the
Good
Foot
forward
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
the
things
you
know
these
weren't
assumptions
we
were
making
that
we
could
do
these
things
that
we
were
properly
dealing
with
our
storm
water.
We
were
properly
dealing
with
any
environmental
issues.
We
had
you
cut
ecological,
archaeological
dealing
with
connections
to
Keystone
Road
and
the
trail,
so
that
was
I
think
about
out
of
being
thoughtful.
AM
Rather
than
not
wanting
to
work
with
the
city
of
Tarpon.
It
would
it'd
be
much
easier
just
to
work
with
with
city
of
Tarpon,
so
I
Mr
Smith
is
here
tonight.
We
happen
to
have
an
exhibit
here.
That
shows
this
property
and
setbacks
were
brought
up.
So
I
want
to
talk
about
that.
AM
Well,
let
me
go
back
here
so
right
now,
along
this
boundary
here,
there's
a
30
foot
wide
buffer
between
us
and
the
neighbors,
and
then
we
have
the
the
lot
set
back,
which
the
rear
lot
set
back
I
believe
is,
is
10
feet.
So
that's
that's
a
40
foot
distance
right
there
along
here
there's.
AM
Actually
it's
over
60
feet
right
along
here,
I
think
it
tapers
from
almost
70
down
to
around
50
or
60
here,
but
it
also
has
the
10
foot,
rear
yard
setbacks
as
well
so
you're
talking
about
a
considerable
amount
of
buffering
between
any
of
these
homes
and
the
adjacent
properties,
so
I
have
an
exhibit
here.
That'll
show
you
some
some
distances
to
give
you
an
idea.
AM
AM
The
Mr
Smith's
home
is
is
up
here,
and
this
is
North
Highland
Avenue
here,
so
I
wanted
to
show
just
kind
of
the
the
proximity
to
our
closest
house
to
Mr
Smith's
house.
This
is
that's
486
feet.
Now,
that's
from
the
edge
of
the
lot
here
to
the
the
edge
of
the
home
there.
So
there's
a
considerable
distance
right.
There.
AM
This
here
is
the
the
the
nearest
home
to
this.
This
would
be
towards
the
southern
end,
our
access
at
Keystone
Road.
This
dashed
line
right
here
this
this
represents
the
setback
per
the
current
agricultural
zoning
setting
setback,
which
is
20
or
25
feet.
But,
as
you
can
see
where
our
lots
are
going
to
be,
you
have
an
additional
50
to
60
feet
separation
between
where
there
could
be
a
home,
Now
versus
what
we're
proposing.
AM
In
that
same
situation,
we
have
all
along
here.
We
have
actually
in
the
rear
these
it's
21
feet,
plus
another
30
feet,
so
it's
actually
50
feet
to
a
home
between
the
lot
line
or
the
property
line
in
the
nearest
home.
So
I
do
think
we
do
have
a
considerable
amount
of
of
buffering
and
we've
take
and
we're
going
to
be
planting
a
lot
of
trees.
We
heard
about
trees
in
your
discussion
and
we're
going
to
have
hundreds
of
trees
being
planted
with
this
project.
AM
Now
again
before
this
project
was
used
as
a
mining
operation
and
during
that
mining
operation
in
the
subsequent
agricultural
operations,
all
the
these
areas
were
clear-cut
essentially,
and
what
we're
going
to
come
in
and
we're
going
to
be
planning
hundreds
of
trees
and
a
lot
of
those
trees
are
going
to
be
in
this
buffer
on
the
east
side
of
the
property.
So
I
do
think
we
very
much
adequately
adequately
take
care
of
buffering
from
our
neighbors
and
I
do
believe.
AM
We
transition
well
into
the
existing
Community
with
that
I
want
to
introduce
if
you
have
any
questions
for
any
of
the
particular
experts.
Thank.
AK
You
Mr
Hayden
and
just
real
quick
before
the
questions
I
did
want
to
make
it
really
clear
and
I
think
we've
demonstrated
it,
but
I
want
to
make
it
really
really
really
clear
on
the
record.
This
project
is
not
requesting
any
variances
to
setbacks
at
all.
We
meet
all
of
the
setbacks
required
by
code.
We
meet
all
of
the
minimum
requirements
and
in
fact
we
exceed
those
requirements.
AK
If
you
count
the
buffering
that
we
just
showed
so
the
only
thing
that's
before
you
for
approval
is
the
RPD
rezoning
itself,
which
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
and
also
included
with
that
is
the
eight
foot
wide
wide
walk
waiver,
which
I
would
argue,
is
not
not
really
a
substantial
request,
the
RPD
zoning.
Obviously
we
know
we
have
to
show
our
work.
We
have
to
provide
competent,
substantial
evidence.
AK
AB
Yeah
I
have
some
questions,
actually
the
show
buffer
zones
and
distances
between
the
property
lines
and
people's
houses.
However,
there's
agriculture
or
uses
to
the
east
side
of
the
property,
probably
towards
the
top
end
to
the
to
the
east
of
the
pond,
which
is
a
a
pretty
large
Equestrian
Center.
Yet
you
kind
of
ignore
the
fact
that
that's
even
there
and
pick
the
house
on
the
other
side
of
the
property.
Why
was
that
I.
AB
Referring
to
the
top
end
of
that
area
to
the
east,
yes,
there's
a
pretty
16
Oaks
is
a
fairly
large
Equestrian.
Center
they've
got
dozens
of
horses
there
all
the
time.
So
it's
very
much
agriculture
and
very
much
in
you-
know,
country
type
use,
and
yet
you
sort
of
ignored
the
fact
that
it's
even
there
and
that
it's
and
that
it's
used
you
like
kind
of
aim
for
a
house
to
the
east
of
it,
of.
AM
Well,
I,
don't
think
we,
it
was
us
necessarily
ignoring
it
by
any
means.
A
30-foot
setback
from
that
property
line
is,
is
a
significant
setback
in
general,
I
mean,
and
we
would
be
happy
to
make
that
also
a
condition
just
so
that
of
this
approval
such
that
that
would
not
change
at
all
during
the
final
development
plan
stage
and
Mr
I
believe
it's
McPherson,
but
excuse
me
if,
if
that's
incorrect,
you
know
we'd
be
happy
to
also
you
know.
AM
AM
Yeah
solid,
you
know
that
sort
of
thing.
Yes,
sir,
a
six
foot
high
PVC
fence,
so
you
know
that's
something
that
we'd
be
happy
to
work
with
with
staff
on,
but
I
do
believe.
You
know
that
we
were.
We
were
definitely
cognizant
to
the
area.
You
know
the
focus
has
been
on.
You
know
these
areas
were
already
mined
for
fill.
You
know
this.
There
there
used
to
be
dozens
of
trucks
moving
a
day
in
and
out
of
this
site,
going
from
Keystone
road
back
into
here.
AM
Digging
this
Pond
digging
out
this
area
here
I
mean
none
of
this
remained
untouched
from
those
operations.
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is,
you
know,
take
advantage
of
these
Disturbed
areas
and
turn
it
into
something
nice
and
we're
happy
to
put
a
lot
of
buffering
along
here,
and
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
these
are
the
Upland
areas
you
know
we're
out
of
the
coastal
High
Hazard.
AC
AB
One
additional
question:
when
you
show
the
Wetland
area
you
show
a
buffer
going
through
the
Wetland
area.
Is
that
there's.
I
AM
So
there
are
no
Trails,
but
it's
like
you
know
in
even
within
your
own
Land
Development
code,
you're,
for
both
wetlands
and
buffers
you
describe
in
both
those
sections,
the
activities
that
are
allowed
within
those
areas
and
when
I
talk
about
refer
to
passive
Recreation,
it's
just
taking
a
you're
going
for
a
walk
or
you're
looking
boat
watching
or
something
or
you
know
it's
not
it's.
That's
not
we're
not
building
a
trail
and.
AM
A
promoted
thing:
it's
just
it's
like
any
Lake
there
is
for
that
matter
is
Technic,
you
know
technically
a
wetland
and
we
understand
I,
just
yeah
yeah,
oh,
and
by
the
way
I
mean
this.
The
this
is
the
lot
line
here
for
that
lot.
51.
So
you
know
this
this
community
here,
because
you
know
you
have
these
this
buffer
behind
it.
Let
me
go
to
this
other
slide.
AM
You
know
you're
going
to
have
this
area
that
is
going
to
be
protected
via
plat
via
HOA
documents.
Via
you
know,
conservation
easement,
you
know
it's
going
to
have
to
be
it's
a
maintained
area
and
so
and
it's
at
the
rear
of
these
Lots.
Here
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
an
area
that
is,
is
going
to
be
promoted
as
an
an
actual
Recreation
Area.
AM
It
is
the
the
the
pond
areas
that
are
being
promoted
as
the
recreation
and
then
also
ultimately,
using
the
eight
foot
wide
Trail
to
access
the
penal,
the
Pinellas,
Trail
and,
and
there
are
other
open
spaces
around
the
community.
Where
you
know,
people
can
passively
recreate
throw
the
football
things
like
that.
My.
AB
Concern
with
this
question
was
just
the
fact
that
we're
talking
about
properties
to
these
that
are
yes,
they're,
some
distance
away
and
there's
a
lot
of
buffer
from
the
houses
from
the
from
the
various
ones,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
buffer
in
some
cases
from
the
agricultural
uses
currently
there,
and
that
was
my
whole
point.
Thank
you.
I'm
finished
my
questions.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
commissioner.
A
V
Thanks
mayor,
what
was
your
name
again
read:
read
thanks
Reed,
so
the
average
square
foot
of
the
lot
is
going
to
be
around
7
300
square
feet
correct.
What's
the
average
square
footage
of
the
houses
to
be
built?
Do
you
guys
have
an
idea?
What
that
looks.
AM
Like
we
do,
we
have
Representatives
with
polti
group
here
tonight
and
they've
probably
got
they'd
be
better
at
answering
those
questions.
Just.
AM
V
All
right
I'll
do
further
clear
clarifying
questions
from
them
later
and
then
there
is
a
discussion
that
the
mini
Park
wouldn't
be
a
problem
getting
to
that
4
000
square
feet
plus
from
any
park.
There's
a
there's,
some
there's
a
land,
that's
like
where
the
Duke
easement
is
in
between
Lots
I,
think
11
right.
M
AM
Well,
because
it's
so
this
strip
right
here
is,
is
a
Duke
easement,
it's
a
hundred
foot
wide
easement
and
we
you.
We
cannot
build
anything
within
it.
We
can
we
can.
We
can
walk
on
it
again,
throw
a
frisbee
on
it.
We
we
have
to
maintain
it.
Actually,
the
HOA
will
be
required
to
maintain
it,
but
we
can't
build
any
homes
on
it.
V
It's
kind
of
walk,
so
Bots
14
through
17
are
the
the
ones
that
do
have
some
concerns
about
from
a
setback.
Standpoint,
and
those
are
some
of
the
questions.
I
think
the
vice
mayor
is
asking
about
as
well
too.
With
that
area,
can
you
go
in
a
little
more
detail
again
with
the
buffer?
So
it's
a
it's
a
30-foot
buffer
and
those
lots
specifically.
AM
The
so
it
is
a
30
foot
buffer,
so
the
buffer
area
is
not
on
the
lot
itself.
It
is
the
area
between
the
rear,
lot
line
and
the
property
line
of
the
entire
PD
boundary.
So
that's
a
buffer
zone,
that's
owned
by
the
HOA.
It's
common
area
open
space
to
the
HOA,
so
it's
open
space
that
can
never
be
turned.
You
know
once
once
this
is
platted
and
the
RPD
is
approved.
That's
open
space,
that's
locked
in
so
it'll
always
be
there
and
we're
gonna
plan
it
as
well.
AM
V
AM
And
I
I
apologize
I
should
know
this
by
Heart
by
now,
but
on
that
Renee
is
the
on
it's
10
feet
on
that,
and
and
honestly,
if
you
wanted
to
go
another
we'd
add
another
five
feet
to
those
lots
there
on
setback
on
these
four
Lots
here.
If
that
feels,
we
can
make
that
a
condition.
If
that's
something
that
would
make
y'all
more
comfortable
yeah.
V
I
mean
I,
just
could
just
tell
you
from
let's
see.
V
I
would
say
how:
how
can
you
as
an
applicant,
continue
to
show
some
more
I
guess
compatibility
to
this?
Those
four
lots
to
the
budding
Lots
trying
to
avoid
making
a
statement
here
in
that
aspect
and
if
it's
adding
another
five
feet
to
the
the
rear
setback
and
possibly
the
side
setback,
because
a
lot
17
you're
on
a
side
setback
with
the
horse
farm
there.
V
So
I
would
like
to
try
to
see
a
little
more
respect
in
that
area.
So
how
could
you
do
that.
AM
Well,
I
mean
you
know:
how
do
we
do
it?
You
know
via
process
I
guess
you
know,
that's
something
we
could.
If
we
yeah,
we
could
make
it
a
condition
within
the
PD.
For
that
matter,
and
it's
you
know,
that's
how
it's
actually
locked.
AG
AE
V
V
Amount
of
just
open
space,
no
shade
along
the
bike,
trail
from
basically
Jasmine
to
East,
Lake,
Road
and
since
there's
not
really
a
there's,
no
bus
stop
required
because
there's
no
buses
that
run
up
and
down
East,
Lake,
Road
or
Keystone
already
unaware
of.
V
Would
you
be
open
to
doing
something
where
the
residents
of
the
neighborhood
would
have
a
spot
to
rest
outside
the
entrance?
Potentially.
AM
You
know
you
know
here
we
have
the
just
the
right
now
so
we're
putting
in
this
D
cell
Lane.
Just
so
y'all
understand
that
the
you
know
this
is
the
current
right
lane
of
Keystone
Road
and
then
the
trail
as
it
stands.
It's
it's
not
that
far
offset
from
Keystone
Road
one
of
the
unique
things
we
did
with
our
design.
AM
Actually-
and
you
don't
see
this
anywhere
and
we've
heard
from
the
county-
they're
probably
going
to
start
encouraging
this
is
we
we
bring
the
trail
back
away
from
Keystone
to
allow
for
this
to
be
a
safer
crossing
right
here,
but
I
just
bring
that
up,
because
this
this
brought
up
this
slide,
but
as
far
as
a
place
for
people
on
the
trail
to
to
rest
and
have
a
place
to
sit,
I
I,
don't
I
think
that
the
probably
the
only
place
we
could.
AM
You
know
one
of
the
things
where
conflicts
we're
going
to
run
into
is
that
we
will
have
planting
requirements
across
our
Frontage
here.
So
this
is
a
pond
and
we're
going
to
be
required
to
buffer
this
in
a
certain
way.
You
know
per
the
city
of
tarpon's
code,
we
don't
have.
This
is
the
you
know
the
right-of-way
line
and
that
right-of-way
line
extends
along
through
there.
So
you
know
we
don't
own
any
of
this
property
within
the
right-of-way
of
Keystone
road.
We
would
not
be
able
to
do
that
now.
V
AM
It
is
on
the
right
of
way:
it's
something.
It's
the
something
like
you
know,
that's
a
County
permit.
Essentially
it's
County
right
away.
You
go
to
the
county.
To
get
that
sure
you
know
County
would
say
hey.
You
need
to
provide
a
bus
stop
if,
via
that,
right-of-way
use
process,
and
then
you
would
install
it.
Of
course
here
we
don't
have
we
don't
have
those
bus
routes,
that's
why
it's
not
a
requirement
to
have
the
the
bus
stops
and
the
right-of-way,
but
yes
that.
AM
AK
AM
Could
ask
them
for
permission
to
do
something
like
that,
yeah
and
and
and
we
can
work
and
also
there's
you
know
an
area
here
where
we
can
and
you
know,
could
it
be
like
benches
amongst
the
trees
in
that
buffer
there
for
to
provide
the
shade?
Is
that
something
that
would
and
honestly
we'd
be
happy
to
work
with
the
city
on
something
there
so,
and
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
within
our
right
to
do
so.
V
AM
AM
You
know
within
like
the
path
of
my
my
laser
here
and
you've
got
one
home
here
and
that'll
be
on
this
site
along
that
same
stretch
of
road
and
then
you're
going
to
have
a
bunch
of
conservation
easement,
all
these
wetlands
and
again
locking
that,
in
with
the
approval
of
this
RPD
and
ultimately
via
plaid
as
well.
V
Okay,
the
sidewalk
waiver
I
think
that's
pretty
clear
what
you
mentioned
am
I
understanding
it's
instead
of
having
two
five
foot
sidewalks
going
to
the
road
you
want
to
eliminate
the
one
on
the
West.
Side,
yes,
and
only
have
it
in
front
of
the
house
is,
and
it's
eight
feet
wide,
basically
to
give
you
better
yep.
AM
And-
and
that
way
it's
a
two-
it's
a
two-way
sidewalk
and
that
will
then
we'll
only
have
one
access
point
to
the
trail,
not
to
mention
you
know:
you've
got
houses
on
one
side
of
the
of
the
property
you
know
generally
sidewalks
are.
Are
there
to?
You
know
service
those
people
on
that
side
of
the
road,
but
it
will
be
just
a
nice
amenity
really
for
the
community.
You
know
they're
they're
on
their
bike
and
they'll
get
here.
AM
They
won't
have
to
be
either
on
a
five
foot,
wide
sidewalk,
possibly
conflicting
with
someone
else
coming
the
other
way.
You
can
have
two-way
traffic
there
and
then
it's
just
one
access
point
to
the
trail.
So
there's
no
confusion
there
as
well
at
that.
At
that
juncture,
with
vehicles
coming
in
and
out
and
other
pedestrians
moving.
V
AM
Well,
they're
yeah,
yeah
I
mean
they're
looking
to
sell
their
property,
and,
and
it
was
the
the
patriarch
the
gentleman
who
formed
the
trust.
He
was
the
one
who
operated
the
the
borrow
pit
operations.
V
V
W
Eichner,
thank
you.
Mayor
find
a
very
quick.
It
was
discussed
that
there
were
other
multi
Lots
in
the
area,
but
those
multi-lots
are
a
lot
larger
than
this.
The
when
it.
AM
AM
These
areas
right
here,
have
lots
that
are
less
than
than
ours,
some
lots
that
are
down
to
the
6000
range,
and
then
they
have
lots
that
are
not
even
as
large
as
our
largest
Lots,
but
their
average
lot
size
is
probably
on
the
order
of
something
it's
shy
of
ten
thousand,
maybe
on
average
a
little
bit
more
than
ours.
You
know
a
thousand
or
so
square
feet
larger
on
average
in
this
vicinity.
These
are
actual
Town
Homes
right
here.
W
AM
AM
The
the
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
their
former
zoning
was
prior
to
them,
getting
that
their
RPD
approved,
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
no,
it
is
not.
You
know
with
almost
land,
especially
you
know
throughout
Pinellas
County
it
kind
when
zoning
ordinance
came
to
be.
You
know
any
of
the
land
that
was
in
this
going
back
many
many
decades
now
any
of
the
land
that
was
outside
of
the
municipalities,
jurisdiction,
that
was
it
was
all
agricultural.
AM
W
Believe
me
I'm
fully
aware,
but
when
you
do
change
from
agriculture
to
RPD,
you
try
to
utilize,
at
least
in
my
aspect:
you
try
to
utilize
the
entire
area
and
you
build
accordingly.
This
is
not
that
type
of
project.
This
project
is
I,
think
you
have
more
area
un
unproduced.
Then
then,
what
you're
planning
on
producing
on
so
you're
building
on
on
a
smaller
area
than
than
what
you're
purchasing
into?
If
you
understand
what.
AM
I'm
saying
absolutely,
but
you
know
that
again,
a
lot
of
people,
some
people
consider
that
smart.
You
know.
Development,
low
impact
development
concentrate
your
development
in
those
areas
that
are
less
environmentally
sensitive,
and
that's
that's
why
there
are
such
thing
that
the
cluster
lot
designation.
That's
a
designation
that
we
see
throughout
any
all
the
jurisdictions
we
work
with,
and
the
point
of
that
is,
you
know,
look
take
your
density
over.
You
know
you
what
your
aggregate
density
is
put
it
in
the
areas.
You
know.
AM
Let's
save
these
other
areas,
these
open
space
areas-
and
you
know
we're
saving.
You
know
over
60
percent
of
this
project
is,
is
you
know,
area
not
even
being
touched
whatsoever
and
then
but
concentrate
that
development
in
the
areas
that
have
you
know
been
impacted
before
in
the
Upland
areas
outside
of
the
flood
plain?
So
you
know
in
in
our
book.
We
look
at
that
as
smart
design.
AM
You
know,
and-
and
we
do
think-
that
what
we're
building
is
quite
compatible
with.
Of
course,
you
know
we're
on
the
the
Keystone
corridor
here
and
this
community
is
going
to
be
very
much
a
part
of
that.
Keystone
Corridor,
we
were
very
cognizant
of
trying
to
maintain
a
large
buffer
between
us
and
the
the
estate
Community,
more
agriculture
Community
to
the
north
of
us,
and
also
to
the
east
of
us
as
well.
You
know
this
is
a.
AM
We
have
a
you
know,
there's
a
golf
course
right
here
and,
and
those
lots
are
clustered
in
smaller
Lots
than
what
we're
proposing
so
I.
What
we're
I
think
what
we're
proposing
is
not
outside
the
realm
of
Reason
within
the
area.
When
we
look
at
the
area,
we
look
at
a
map
like
this,
though
we
don't
necessarily
just
look
at.
You
know
immediately
adjacent
contiguous
parcels,
I.
X
Yes,
Mr
Reed,
sir,
can
you
come
up
to
the
the
podium
I?
Have
a
series
of
questions
I
want
to
ask
you
I'm.
AK
X
Okay
and
I
wanted
to
start
off,
because
your
very
first
sentence
in
your
presentation
was
we
we
didn't.
Why
did
you
say
we
haven't
asked
for
a
change
in
the
Land
Development
code.
AK
Because
I
knew
that
that
was
a
concern
of
this
commission
from
a
prior
project
that
I
was
not
involved
with,
but
I
do
follow
your
commission
meetings
because
I
like
to
be
aware
of
issues
that
are
going
on
in
the
communities
that
I
practice
law
and
so
I
can
better
advise
my
clients
on
how
to
design
their
projects
and
how
to
work
successfully
with
you
all
and
with
your
staff.
So
I
was
aware
that
that
was
a
concern.
Okay,.
X
Sir
I'm
sorry
and
do
you
have
any
colleagues
that
have
worked
as
Representatives
as
applicants.
X
AK
AK
The
historic
yes,
sir,
it
was
actually
I
think
it
was
the
first
Zoom
commission
Hearing
in
April
of
2020,
so
it
was
also
my
birthday.
It
was
a
long
night,
but
I
knew
the
mayor
would
remember
that
one
I
and
other
than
that
I,
don't
think
I've
presented
in
front
of
the
prior
commission
or
this
commission
any
other
times.
Okay,.
X
AK
Position
with
the
project,
so
we
have
Dr
Don
Richardson,
he's
an
ecologist
biologist,
who's
done
an
environmental
study
and
has
it
worked
with
Swift
Mud
on
the
Erp
permit
and
we'll
work
with
fdep.
If
this
project
is
approved
and
moves
forward
will
work
with
fdp
on
any
environmental
issues,
we
have
Mr
r-trent
Stevenson.
Here
he
is
a
PE
he's.
A
civil
engineer.
He's
primarily
worked
with
the
county
on
the
connection
to
Keystone
Road
and
the
design
of
that
and
some
other
civil
engineering
issues.
With
the
project
we
have
Mr
Rob
fault.
AK
He
is
our
transportation
engineer
and
transportation.
Planning
expert
he's
done
the
traffic
studies
and
also
worked
with
the
county
and
worked
with
the
city
on
that
connection
to
Keystone
Road
issue,
and
then
we
have
Mr
Michael
gagne
he's
also
a
PE
civil
engineer,
but
he's
the
geotechnical
expert
regarding
the
soils
and
the
and
the
ground
and
he's
done
a
geotechnical
study
of
the
site
and
is
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
that.
Okay,.
X
So,
do
you
have
your
a
site
planner
for
the
project,
I.
AK
Don't
know
of
any
other
experts
there
instead
of
Mr
fault,
Mr
Steve
Henry
of
his
firm
was
our
traffic
expert
at
the
board
of
adjustment
hearing,
but
there
they
work
together.
So
they've
worked
on
the
report,
so
I
can't
think
of
any
other
expert.
Witnesses
we've
had
involved
with
this
project
at
all,
so.
AL
AM
X
AM
I
mean
so
you
know
I
what
I
do
predominantly
for
a
living
is
planning
and
site
planning.
Specifically,
so
I
was
the
one
who
ultimately
came
up
with
the
original
site
plan.
I
worked
with
the
city
and
modifying
that
site
plan
along
the
way
Mr
Stevenson
over.
Here
he
is
the
civil
engineer.
AM
The
will
be
the
engineer
of
record
on
the
project,
so
he's
the
one
who
does
the
more
detailed
design
when
it
comes
to
the
specifics
of
the
roadway,
the
drainage
system,
the
utilities
grading
plan
stuff,
like
that,
so
I'm,
the
one
who's
been
involved
throughout
from
the
the
very
get-go,
and
you
know
you
know
we're
the
ones
that
have
really
done
all
the
the
planning
site
planning
specifically
for
the
project
and.
AK
AM
X
Well,
there's
a
document:
that's
dated
November
5th
2019,
it's
from
the
Pinellas
County
Emergency,
Management,
okay,
and
it's
addressed
to
tarapani
planning
strategies,
LLC
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
it's
actually
addressed
to
miss
Tara,
panty
and
I
wanted
to
reconfirm
with
you.
Is
there
any
other
planning
services
or
strategies
or
people
that
you
have
used
for
this
application
of
this
project?.
AK
So
I
think
I
I
think
the
answer
I
think
the
answer
to
that
is
that
this
application
was
submitted
in
2020
Mr
Hayden
is
under
contract
to
purchase
the
property
for
Mr
mcalpin
Mr
McCall.
Can
you
raise
your
hand?
Mr
mcalpin's
family
has
been
represented
by
Mr
Craig
terzizki,
who
is
a
land
use
attorney
at
Johnson
Pope
The
Firm
of
Johnson
Pope
in
downtown
Clearwater.
He
has
not
been
involved
in
representing
the
contract
purchaser
or
the
development
team
on
this
site
plan
or
this
RPD
project.
It.
AK
AM
Speak
specifically
about
that,
there
were
when
they
were
getting
their
boundary.
Surveys
done:
they're
they're,
the
right-of-way
for
North
Highland
and
their
boundaries.
There
were
some
boundary
conflicts,
so
they
worked
through
getting
those
resolved
and
actually
vacating
some
property
that
the
county
had
owned
and
then
also
giving
some
property
to
the
county
to
clean
up
the
North
Highland
right
away
there.
But
those
were
title
issues
that
the
owner
was
working
with
with
that
attorney
on
this
had
nothing
to
do
you
with
our
application
or
our
design
yeah.
AM
U
AK
All
I
can
tell
you,
commissioner,
is
that
it
predates
our
application
I'm
personally,
completely
unaware
of
it
and
miss
tarapani
and
her
firm
have
not
been
engaged
or
paid
any
fees
by
the
contract
purchaser
or
this
development
team
for
this
application,
and
we
haven't
engaged
any
planning
Services
of
any
aicp
planners.
So
I
think
that
predates
this
application
and
it
may
have
been
material
that
was
provided
during
due
diligence
that
was
necessary
to
submit,
but
that
would
be
it
I.
AM
X
AM
AM
AK
X
AM
X
X
AM
X
X
X
I,
as
our
city
staff
had
mentioned
there,
there
hasn't
been
maybe
a
discussion
or
thought
of
yet
maybe
it
might
be
too
premature
for
school
buses
and
stuff,
but
is
there
some
type
of
plan
that's
going
to
be
implemented
and
at
what
point
is
that
implemented?
Well,.
AM
You
know
with
something
like
this:
these
are
going
to
be
City
roads.
This
is
going
to
be
public
right-of-way
for
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
and
it
will
probably
be
akin
to
how
they're
handling
bussing
throughout
other
communities
in
in
the
area.
You
know
when
you
build
a
community
like
this
one
of
the
things
you're
doing
as
well
is
that
you
know
they're
the
local,
the
school
boards
being
notified.
They
know,
you
know,
make
calculations
on
how
many
children
are
are
going
to
be
there
and
they
start
making
accommodations
based
on
that.
AM
So
what
will
end
up
happening?
Ultimately?
Is
you
know
a
a
bus
route?
A
connection
will
be
established
whether
this
community
warrants
their
own.
That's
going
to
be
up
to
the
school
board.
Ultimately,
and
the
school
board
says
yes,
there
should
be
a
bus,
stop
there.
You
know,
then
you
provide
those
facilities
within
the
community
and
we
have
many
areas
along
our
right-of-way,
where
we
can
provide
that.
But
that's
generally
something
you
do
resolve
when
you're.
In
the
you
know
the
final
development
plan
stage.
X
Okay-
and
this
may
be
a
question
for
the
attorney,
because
this
falls
back
into
a
land
use
statement
that
he
had
made
and
so
we'll
just
wait
a
moment.
Sir.
AK
X
You,
sir
okay
I,
had
broughten
up
some
land
use,
codes
and
I.
Believe
I
heard
that
from
our
city
staff
that
some
of
those
codes,
if
change,
would
have
a
negligible
effect
on
the
application,
but
I
believe
you
stated
that
none
of
those
codes
would
have
any
impact
on
the
changes.
So.
AK
Negligible
meaning
no
real
impact,
so
I
think
what
Miss
Vincent
said
is
that
the
your
code
amendments
would
have
no
real
impact
on
this
project
other
than
a
requirement
that
the
RPD
is
also
subject
to
Coastal
High
Hazard
scrutiny,
whereas
now
your
code
only
says
a
land
use,
amendment
is
under
that
Coastal
High
Hazard
scrutiny,
but,
as
we've
discussed,
there's
no
development
taking
place
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
on
this
project,
so
I
don't
think
it
would
affect
that,
but
I
would
defer
to
miss
Vincent
because
again
she's
much
more
of
an
expert
on
what
those
amendments
are
going
to
be.
X
AM
May
I,
I
and
I,
because
I
have
developed
in
the
within
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area,
there's
a
requirement
that
you
cannot
build
more
intensely
than
five
units
per
acre
within
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
We
are
not
only
outside
of
it,
but
we're
underneath
that
threshold
already
from
a
density
perspective,
so
I
believe
again
don't
want
to
speak
for
Miss
Vincent,
but
I
believe
that
was
part
of
the
describing
as
negligible
in
that.
Even
if
you
impose
that
rule
it
wouldn't
have
it
wouldn't
apply
to
our
development.
AM
It
is
but
that's
from
a
density
perspective
which
again
is
residential,
very
low
and
preservation.
Those
are
all
one
unit
per
acre,
so
they
look
at
it.
You
know
a
density
perspective.
It
is
below
the
threshold
of
the
five
units
per
acre,
the
limitation
on
total,
okay.
A
A
Cars
has
some
additional
questions,
but
as
far
as
the
area
Witnesses,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
once
we
get
done
with
Mr
Hayden
and
we're
going
I'm
going
to
ask
Commissioners
whether
they
would
like
to
hear
a
particular
area,
witness
like
Transportation
or
civil,
or
whoever
else
is
maybe
polti
homes
as
well
and
we'll
go
through
that
we'll
start
with
whatever
commissioner
wants
to
hear
that,
and
if
the
Commissioners
want
to
ask
questions
after
that
they
can
and
we'll
just
go
through
the
the
cycle.
A
That's
the
way
we've
got
to
work
this
with
one
witness
at
a
time.
The
reason
why
I
your
questions
were:
okay
for
Mr
ox,
but
he's
not
a
he's,
not
a
witness
per
se.
He
introduced
the
thing,
but
you
wanted
clarification
on
what
he
stated,
which
was
fine
that
that
was.
That
was
corrected
of
me
once
before.
When
I
tried
to
ask
another
attorney,
a
question:
I
I
couldn't
ask
that.
Yes,.
AH
V
Thanks
Mary
Reed
I've
got
a
couple
more
questions.
Please.
This
is
a
non-gated
community.
Is
that
right,
a
non-get,
that's
correct
yeah,
so
you
could
drive
in
go
trick-or-treating.
Do
whatever.
V
Sir
okay,
how
wide
is
the
road
and
then
second
question
to
that
is?
Is
there
any?
Was
there
any
staff
recommendation
of
no
parking
on
the
road
or
anything
along
those
lines?
There.
AM
Is
so
the
road
meets
the
it's?
Basically,
the
city
of
tarbon's,
typical
section
standard
section
for
public
right
away,
residential
public
right-of-way,
so
we're
just
meeting
your
specification
there.
The
only
time
we
defer
we
go
outside
of
that
is
that
one
waiver
on
the
sidewalk
and
there
is
no
parking
allowed
on
the
road
throughout
the
neighborhood.
That
is
correct.
V
AM
Well,
it
would
require
modifying
the
typical
section
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
I
think
we
could
maybe
look
at
some
strategic
areas
to
provide
some
parking
spaces
that
would
be
more
reasonable
other
than
widening
the
entire
Road
in
an
additional
eight
feet.
I,
don't
know
that
we'd
that
would
yeah
that.
V
Would
require
so
with
keeping
the
road
as
narrow
as
it
is
without
any
guest
parking
tends
to
be
problematic.
I've
noticed
in
the
city,
so
I
would
hope
that
the
applicant
would
be
willing
to
to
look
at
that.
The
width
of
the
roads
definitely
can
have
an
impact
and
a
negative,
a
negative
impact
on
the
neighborhood
for
future
Generations.
V
So
with
that,
I
would
I
would
ask
that
the
applicant
would
look
at
that
aspect
of
winding
the
road,
because
I
think
that
would
be
a
challenge
with
this
application
for
sure.
Let.
AM
Me
ask
a
question:
could
we
make
that
we
will
look
at
some
areas
to
provide
some
strategic
parking
for
vehicles
yeah.
V
I
mean
that's
up
to
you
in
that
aspect,
but
you've
got
a
bunch
of
different
areas:
50
49,
different
Lots
or
50
different
lots
to
try
to
provide
parking
for
I
I.
Think
the
other
question
would
be
looking
at
the
driveways,
not
including
the
the
the
actual
garage
itself.
Most
of
them
are
two-car
garages.
I
look
like.
Are
they
going
to
be
two-car
driveways
or
are
they
gonna
be
four
car
garage
driveways?
What
that
would
look
like
I.
V
AM
No,
not
we've
not
gotten
into
the
the
details
of
all
the
design.
At
that
point,
we
will
those
are
items
we
would
normally
address
during
the
final
development
plan
stage
when.
V
You
when
you
went
through
like
a
bunch
of
different
iterations,
was
it
in
the
same
building
area
of
like
the
Uplands
and
just
smaller
Lots.
AM
Well,
there
was,
you
know,
there
was
a
point,
you
know.
Originally
we
were
requesting
a
waiver
to
the
50-foot
buffer
setback.
For
instance
sure-
and
you
know
we
were,
you
know,
we
just
did
some
different
things
and
yeah
essentially,
and
what
we've
done
is
increased
yeah.
We
did
have
smaller
Lots
when
we
originally
designed
this
project.
There
were
smaller
Lots,
okay,.
V
AM
D
AM
Only
for
recreation,
but
for
retention,
we
have
to
have
a
drainage
easement
over
it,
so
the
dhoa
can
maintain
those
areas.
The
HOA
will
maintain
those
areas
because
we
need
to
ensure
that
they
are
maintained
because
again
it's
a
part
of
our
storm
water
management
system
and
in
those
areas
we
don't
want
to
have
a
lot
of
obstruction.
So
it'll
probably
be
you
know,
sod
with
with
tree.
You
know
sparse
tree
planting
for
this.
You
know
that
meet
the
lot
planting
requirements.
V
AM
I
I,
you
know
we
we're
going
to
definitely
plant
a
lot
of
trees
in
this
area.
There
is
there's
a
ridge
right
here
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
trees
on
the
the
adjacent
property,
as
is
we're
going
to
plant
a
lot.
This
area
considerably
I
think
you're
going
to
see
ultimately
more
trees
than
you're
going
to
see
house.
V
V
So
the
the
two
big
things
that
I
think
that
had
questions
about
is
having
to
do
with
the
width
of
the
road
and
visitor
parking.
But
that's
something
I
think
we
could
hash.
AE
A
Okay,
commissioner
Eisner.
W
AM
Well,
we
didn't
it's
not
that
we
didn't
have
to
worry
about
density,
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
since
we're
outside
of
it
at
least
the
area
we're
developing.
It
doesn't
apply
to
us,
but.
Q
AM
A
Mr
Hayden
the
that
lot.
You
pointed
out
the
lot
dividing
lot
51
from
the
rest
of
the
project.
Yes,
sir
I've
got
some
concerns
just
based
on
what
I'd
asked
Ms
Vincent
earlier
that
it
that
currently
you're
not
proposing
that
it'd
be
part
of
the
HOA
I'd
like
to
see
it
included
in
the
HOA
and
the
reason.
Why
is
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
you
know:
conservation
easements
aren't
maintained,
but
yes,
they
are.
We've
got
many
issues
that
actually
one
in
particular
that
we've
been
living
with
for
a
very
long
time.
A
It
was
when
I
was
city
manager.
City
manager,
here
sitting
next
to
me,
is,
is
experiencing
the
same
thing
where
there's
run
on
runoff
coming
from
a
wetland
area
that
has
is
flooding
somebody's
backyard
and
unless
it's
the
hoa's
responsibility
whose
responsibility
would
it
be,
in
other
words,
in
this
particular
case?
If,
if
that
homeowner
in
lot,
51
doesn't.
A
Basically,
if
they,
if
he
claims
that
the
what
runoff
is
coming
off,
the
HOA,
that's
his
problem
with
the
HOA,
but
if
the
HOA
entire
owns
the
entire
it's
within
the
entire
envelope,
then
basically
he's
got
the
deal
he's
part
of
the
HOA.
A
So
he's
got
a
mechanism
of
doing
that
right
now
he
doesn't
have
a
net
mechanism
doing
that
unless
he
goes
to
see
a
lawyer,
so
I,
that's
the
one
concern
I
have
I
saw
that
I
19
acres
for
single
lot
is
a
little
much
for
me,
especially
if
it's
an
RPD
and
based
on
the
on
the
Pud
concept
that
somebody's
got
to
control
all
these.
These
you
know
the
the
documents,
the
homeowners
documents.
M
AM
You
know
it
would
be.
You
know
these
are
of
the
large
Lots.
There
are
some
areas
that
are
large
Lots
in
this
area.
Now
this
lar
this
lot
here
would
be,
like
probably
you
know
the
largest
lot
in
the
area
right
and
but
there
are
other
lots
that
have
Wetlands
on
them
right
and
those
those
owners
of
those
Parcels
of
land
have
a
wetland
on
their
property,
and
you
know
they're
in
technically,
in
charge
of
maintaining
those
Wetlands.
AM
Generally,
you
know
with
Wetlands
you
you
allow
them
to
be
Wetlands,
you
know,
they're,
you
know,
they're
a
nature
preserve,
that's
it's
a
Conservation
Area
the
the
ecology
takes
care
of
itself.
You
want
to
govern
it
for
invasives
and
and
use
and
I
think
here.
The
buffer
areas
are
where
you
want
to
really
control
those
invasives
not
going
in
the
wetlands
and
disturbing
those
Wetlands.
But
this
is
not
a
unique
scenario.
Now,
I,
don't
know
from
the
legality
of
this
property
would
be
owned.
You
know
by
the
lot
owner
of
lot,
51.
AM
I,
don't
believe.
If
someone
said
your
water
is
coming
onto
across
the
street
said,
your
water
is
affecting
me
that
the
HOA
would
necessarily
be
responsible.
I
think
it
would
go
back
to
the
actual
owner
of
the
property.
I
think
the
HOA
would
have
to
be.
You
know
title
a
fee
simple
owner
of
these
things,
but
you
know
from
a
maintenance
perspective.
AM
I
think
we
can
work
work,
something
out
there
for
the
sake
of
of
Maintenance
but
you're
talking
about
two
very
separate
entities
here:
the
cluster
Lots
being
this
tight-knit
community
and
then
this
this
homeowner
over
here
being
on
an
estate
lot.
A
part
of
you
know
what
what
is
is
not
going
to
feel
like
the
same
Community.
A
It
as
an
RPD
and
I'm
telling
you
I'm
going
to
vote.
No,
unless
you
agree
to
it
being
an
HOA.
The
whole
thing
I'm
not
going
to
mix
words
here,
I'm
not
going
to
do
it.
It's
an
RPD,
it's
a
form
of
a
PUD.
The
Pud
requires
some
governance
over
the
entire
site.
To
maintain
the
covenants.
I
don't
see
that
on
lot,
51,
it's
as
simple
as
that,
and
we
can
argue
about.
What's
you
know
what
maintenance
is
done
for
conservation
easements?
What's
not
done,
but
that's
how
I
feel
about
it.
A
AM
Know
concert
Invasion
easements
are
generally
to
the
benefit
of
the
state.
You
know
with
Swift
Mud
and
everything
those
I
I
think
the
buffer
areas,
I
believe
are
going
to
be
for
the
benefit
of
the
city,
because
technically
Swift
money,
we
don't
have
to
have
an
easement
over
the
buffer
areas.
It's
just
a
an
area
that
exists
that
you
know
you'll
put
on
a
plat
for
instance,
and
shown
that
is
a
buffer
area.
But
ordinarily,
the
benefactor
of
the
easement
is
going
to
be
the
state.
A
AM
A
The
other
thing
I
I,
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
you're
not
going
to
allow
swimming
in
the
in
the
borrow
pit
or
the
borrow
pond.
AM
AM
For
the
sake
of,
for
the
sake
of
the
approval,
we're
willing
to
do
so.
Yes,
sir.
A
Commissioner
Carr
brought
up
the
mini
park.
I
think
you
you,
you
agreed
to
do
the
mini
Park.
Is
that
correct
the
full-size
mini
Park.
A
A
The
I
tend
to
agree
with
commissioner
Carr
on
the
width
of
the
roads,
with
the
parking.
M
A
AG
A
A
B
A
B
A
So
five
we
finished
with
Mr
Hayden
and
what
commissioner,
what
area
witness
vice
mayor?
Do
you
have
any
area
witness
that
you'd
like
to
hear
from
Transportation
civil.
Z
A
I'd
be
interested
in
talking
to
the
two
things:
one
that
Mr
angst
would
prefer
your
civil
engineered
and
answer
the
conservation,
conservation,
easement
question,
I
believe
and
then.
Secondly,
I
have
a
question
on
Transportation.
A
You
the
question
I
had
was
in
it
and
I
I,
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
conservation
easements
being
placed
with
the
state,
whether
it's
dep
or
Swift
Mud
or
whoever,
as
long
as
they
are
placed
with
a
state
correctly
and
I
would
like
to
understand
what
the
process
is.
If
you
could
explain
that
to
me,
please.
AN
Under
the
Erp,
we
have
a
designation
to
place
them
as
a
conservation
easement
and
before
we
can
close
out
the
permit
to
move
from
the
Erp
into
the
operation
and
maintenance
and
portion
of
that
permit,
we
will
have
to
have
a
recorded
easement
that
we
would
record
in
favor
of
the
state
to
are
in
favor
of
the
state.
Okay,.
AN
A
Okay,
we'll
figure
it
out
with
the
staff
on
how
to.
A
Right,
okay
and,
and
that
would
be
a
conservation
Easton
over
the
entire
wetland
in
within
that
52-acre
site.
A
The
buffer,
the
buffers
yes,
sir,
okay,
that's
correct:
okay,
Mr
Hayden!
Is
there
any
question
for
concerning
civil
engineering,
Mr
Hayden,
someone
that
would
be
your
expert
on
Transportation.
AM
A
Thank
you.
We
really
haven't,
don't
have
anything
in
our
backup
concerning
traffic,
except
that
I
think
Keystone
operates
a
level
of
service
C
at
that
location,
which
is
compared
everything
else
in
the
area.
It's
you
know
it's
the
desert
sort
of
thing,
although,
if
you're
on
it,
you
wouldn't
agree
with
that.
But
can
you
if
you've
got
a
graphic
on
there,
that
you
could
depict?
Let's
say
somebody
that
makes
a
right?
It's
only
going
to
be
a
write-out
I
believe.
Is
that
correct.
AO
AO
AO
AO
Well,
I
shake
quite
a
bit:
I
have
essential
tremors,
so
maybe
somebody
could
yeah
yeah.
If
you're
coming
out
of
the
community,
you
would
be
able
to
come
in
into
the
existing
left.
Turn
lane.
That's
currently
there
that
serves
the
the
Ralph
Irwin
Parkway
and
do
a
U-turn.
If
you
wanted
to
head
back
East
along
Keystone,
so
you
can
either
coming
out
of
the
community
turn
right
or
come
straight
across
enter
into
the
left
turn
lane
that
already
exists
today
and
do
a
U-turn
and.
AO
AO
AO
But
that's
that's
correct.
You
would
have
to
if
you're
heading
east
eastbound
on
Keystone
and
you
wanted
to
come
into
the
community
you're
going
to
have
to
go
on
this
yeah
you're,
going
to
drive
by
the
the
driveway
connection
and
do
a
U-turn.
A
Okay,
but
that
little
diagonal
that
you've
got
you've
got
the
solid
line,
a
little
diagonal
right,
just
right
right.
AO
A
AO
Correct
this,
oh
yeah,
I'm.
Sorry
now
yeah
this.
Obviously
this
is
not
a
full
median
opening
connection
to
Keystone.
Okay,
so
again
it's
right
in
right
out
or
you
could,
if
you're
coming
out,
go
straight
through
and
get
in
the
left
turn
lane.
So
again,
if
you're
eastbound
on
Keystone,
you
have
to
go
beyond
that
driveway
and
do
a
U-turn
to.
A
Come
by
the
the
counties
agreed
to
that
already.
Yes,.
AO
Sir,
we
we
prepared
a
traffic
study
in
conjunction
with
getting
the
right-of-way
use.
Permit
and
they've
concurred
with
the
the
results
of
the
study
again
we're
showing
a
westbound
right
turn
lane
that
wasn't
even
warranted
based
on
our
study,
but
the
developer
is
willing
to
build
that
right.
Turn
lane
to
make
this
intersection
even
safer.
You.
AO
A
A
AO
A
All
right
are
there
other
questions
concerning
Transportation,
okay
and
thank
you
very
much
Mr
folk.
The
other
question
I,
think
there's
a
couple
of
questions
concerning
that
may
involve
polti
homes.
If
I
could
ask
them
to
come
forward
and
everyone's
been
sworn
in,
I
would
suspect.
I
hope,
yes,
okay,
and
it
would
be
one
one
person
at
a
time.
Speaking
perfect
yeah.
P
My
name
is
Scott
himmelho,
3933,
Drayton
way,
Palm
Harbor,
Florida,
34685
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
and
if
it's
something
that
falls
into
my
counterparts,
expertise.
A
What
we
want
to
do
is
try
to
pin
down
the
the
the
width
of
the
street
and,
as
far
as
the
parking
on
one
side
and
I,
think
for
me,
a
little
bit
has
to
do
with
the
the
setback
distance
from
the
property
line
to
the
first
to
the
garage,
for
example,
yeah.
P
Those
questions
would
be
best
answered
by
our
civil
engineer
on
the
project
or
the
civil
engineer.
Trent
Stevenson.
AN
Yes,
sir,
so
first
off
we
have
a
20-foot
front
yard
setback
so
from
the
right-of-way
line,
which
is
also
the
back
of
sidewalk
to
the
garage
is
20
feet.
So
there's
space
to
park
cars
and
not
impede
the
sidewalk
is.
Z
AN
The
same
for
the
driveway
now
the
streets
regarding
the
parking
on
the
streets.
You
know
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
this
neighborhood
is
family
friendly
and
the
The
Wider
the
streets
are,
it
promotes
faster
traffic
and
I
I
mean
I'm,
not
the
transportation
guy.
You
can
ask
Mr
Falk,
but
it's
proven
that
the
the
tighter
the
streets,
the
slower
the
traffic
and
the
safer
it
is
from
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint,
so
Whiting
out
the
streets
promote,
especially
as
our
entrance
is
kind
of
a
long
straight
away.
AN
A
AN
A
Q
Ponte
with
polti
group
2662,
South,
Falkenburg
Road,
is
where
our
office
is
Riverview
Florida.
One
way
it's
been
handled
in
other
communities
is
in
the
HOA
docs.
We
have
talked
earlier
about
making
sure
there's
some
certain
language
in
there
and
you
can
have
no
parking
in
the
HOA
documents
and
you
can
even
maybe
even
add
some
no
parking
signs.
We've
done
that
as
well.
That
has
helped
it
and
becomes
more
of
an
Enforcement
issue,
but
this
way
you're
not
widening
roads,
and
things
like
that
and
we've
done
that
with
success.
A
V
Mean
would
you
be
willing
to
widen
the
roads
and
based
on
my
well
that
that's
my
question.
Q
Again,
what
what
widening
the
roads,
I
I,
defer
to
what
Trent
said
as
from
an
engineering
perspective,
but
again,
I
think
that
you.
V
Get
it
well,
okay,
so
the
the
statement
is,
you
have
to
remember,
you
guys,
are
building
and
leaving
it
for
the
rest
of
your
lives
right
and
you're,
leaving
it
for
the
residents
of
Tarpon
Springs
to
live
there
not
being
able
to
park
in
their
Street
and
it's
a
disaster.
If
you've
been
part
of
HOA
that
doesn't
allow
parking
in
the
streets,
it's
probably
one
of
the
worst
situations
to
be
part
of
a
neighborhood.
So,
and
so
with
that
aspect,
there's
a.
AN
Commissioner,
to
expand
the
road,
so
I
I
would
like
to
clarify.
What
do
you
mean
by
widen
the
road?
Because
that's
that's
kind
of
ambiguous
and
saying
like?
Oh,
you
need
a
set
of
10-foot
Lanes.
We
want
to
have
12
foot
Lanes.
We
have
14
foot
Lanes
I'm,
trying
to
understand
what
you're
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
V
AN
A
No,
no,
we
need
six,
we
need
16..
Let
me
let
me
let
me
interrupt.
The
objective
of
this
meeting
is
for
the
Commissioners
to
ask
questions
and
it's
your
responsibility.
If
you
agree
to
something
to
enact
it
with
our
city
staff,
we
don't
have
answers,
we're
not
Engineers.
You
are.
This,
commissioner,
is
explaining
something
to
you
that
he's
requesting,
and
it
doesn't
matter
to
us
how
that
happens,
except
it
has
to
be
worked
out
with
the
staff.
AN
A
All
right,
Ms
Vincent,
is
there
any
questions
cross-examination
for
the
applicant
I.
A
A
Can
move
down
to
which
I'll
move
over
there
and
y'all
can
use
a
Podium
Mr
McPherson?
You
can
use
the
where
you
spoke
at
before.
AI
AI
A
And
then
do
you
have
a
question
on
for
the
applicant
I.
AI
And
my
other
concern
is:
we
are
licensed
through
Pinellas
County
to
have
dogs
there.
Right
now
we
have
15
I've
got
two
in
heat
who
are
pregnant,
so
we
can
have
anywhere
between
30
and
60
dogs
in
that
property.
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
if
they
start
complaining?
We
were
there
first
and
we
are
licensed
through
the
Pinellas
County.
Okay,.
AM
So
the
first
question
I
believe
was
about
the
fence,
the
fence
and
trees
and
and
so
the
trees.
All
these
items
will
be
on
our
property,
so
maintenance
of
these,
these
things
will
be
our
responsibility.
If
something
happens
to
the
fence,
we
have
to
fix
the
fence
and
trees
as
well.
You
know
that's
going
to
be
all
in
HOA
maintained
property,
it's
going
to
be
the
responsibility
of
the
HOA
to
take
care
of
all
those
things.
I
believe
you
mentioned
you're
the
dog.
AI
AM
AM
The
dogs
thing
you
asked
about
that,
so
we
are
going
to
notify
all
the
buyers
and
the
disclosures
and
in
the
HOA
documents
that
there
are
agricultural
uses,
potentially
that
are
allowable
next
door
to
us
and
all
the
items
that
come
with
those
agricultural
uses,
and
that
is
a
you
know
our
responsibility
to
do
so
and
we
will
ensure
we'll
provide
staff
copies
of
those
items
too,
so
that
they
can
see
that
we're
doing
our
job.
There.
D
A
AK
Answer
it
the
best
I
can
mayor,
you
know
the
fence
and
again
the
trees
are
going
to
be
on
HOA
property
exclusively,
so
no
portion
of
the
fence
is
going
to
be
on
Mr,
McPherson's
property.
I.
Don't
think
we
can
commit
today
that
we're
going
to
go
on
to
Mr,
McPherson's
property,
and
you
know
pressure
wash
a
fence.
That's
you
know,
go
access
it
from
his
property.
AI
M
Z
Z
AJ
Court
at
easement
for
the
use
of
the
pond
when
we
bought
the
property
back
in
February
of
2019.
I've,
got
a
question
looking
at
the
other,
drawing
before
this,
the
ones
just
on
the
application.
Now
nothing
was
added
to
the
bottom
of
the
pond,
but
with
this
diversion
that's
out
now
they're,
adding
I
guess
because
of
the
buffered
is
his
own.
That's
on
the
to
the
west
of
us
with
the.
M
AM
If
you
can
answer
that
yeah,
so
the
easement
that
you
have
right
now
is
with
the
mcalpin
trust.
AJ
AM
AJ
AM
So,
as
far
as
the
total
filling
of
the
pond
you're-
probably
not
talking
even
five
percent
of
the
volume
of
the
pond,
it's
not
a
it's
not
really
that
a
very
significant
amount
in
the
realm
of
a
volume
of
the
pond.
The
water
level
in
the
pond
also
was
established
by
the
hydrology
of
the
area.
It's
not
really.
AM
You
know
it's
not
a
bathtub
but
put
something
in
there
and
the
water
is
going
to
rise,
that
water
level
is
going
to
stay
where
it
is
at
this
time
and
honestly,
I
really
think
I
should
let
Trent
take
that
out,
but
I'm
a
civil
engineer
as
well.
I
know
this,
but
he'll
probably
reiterate
what
I'm
saying
here.
A
Is
that
it
sir?
Yes,
okay,
so
we're
done
with
that
we're
done
with
that:
okay,
now
Mr
McPherson
or
Mr
Smith.
If
you'd
like
to
do
you
have
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
say
to
the
commission
now,
whether
you're
for
the
project
or
against
the
project?
Okay,
Mr
McPherson,
it's
your
turn
to
speak
to
the
commission,
to
express
your
any
concerns,
whether
you're
for
the
project
or
against
the
project.
AI
I
mean
obviously
we're
against
it,
but
things
have
to
change,
but
I
guess
the
main
thing
is
we
all
moved
out
there
because
we
didn't
want
to
look
at
subdivisions.
We
lived
in
Landsberg,
Ridge,
more
East,
like
Woodlands.
This
is
a
different
way
of
life
out
there.
We
didn't
buy
a
home
to
look
at
track
homes
and
that's
what
polity
homes
builds
their
Cracker
Box
track
homes
we
are
not
in
track.
Homes
sort.
AI
Is
that
fence
that
they're
gonna
have
to
put
up
along
my
property
line,
I'm
not
going
to
have
to
maintain
a
white
PVC
fence.
That's
going
to
need
to
be
pressure
washed.
They
need
to
get
it
resolved
in
their
HOA
because
you
know
what's
going
to
happen
once
the
HOA
takes
over
and
if
it's
not
in
there,
we're
stuck
maintaining
it
because
it's
going
to
be
looking
onto
our
property
and
it's
there's
going
to
be
a
noise
problem.
They
are
not
going
to
be
happy.
AI
You
can
come
out
there
in
the
middle
of
the
night
or
during
the
day,
and
you
can
hear
the
family
across
the
street
with
all
their
horses
and
all
their
dogs
and
our
dogs.
We
are
going
to
have
a
problem.
We
were
there.
First,
we
are
licensed
through
Pinellas
County
to
have.
We
are
allowed
to
have
two
litters
a
year.
Our
dogs
have
anywhere
for
between
10
and
20
puppies.
A
litter
I've
got
two
that
are
pregnant
right
now.
AI
AI
AI
When
the
coyotes
are
there,
the
turkeys
are
there.
What
are
they
doing
about
the
tortoises
that
come
from
that
property
into
my
property
all
the
time?
Those
are
protected
wildlife
animals?
So
what
does
this
developer
going
to
do
with
the
tortoises
that
are
there?
Our
fences
are
all
up
this
much
so
the
tortoises
can
run
free.
AI
So
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
the
tortoises
that
are
on
that
property?
Now
that
our
protected
in
the
state
of
Florida
I
can't
remove
them
when
they're
on
my
property,
I
have
to
call
Pinellas
County
for
them
to
come,
get
one
of
them
because
I
don't
want
my
dogs,
killing
them
yeah.
But
when
the
coyotes
howl
out
there,
the
dogs
go
berserk
and
the
coyotes
are
going
to
stay
there
because
there's
still
other
wild
land
out
there.
AI
I
just
know
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
because
they're
going
to
complain
about
our
animals
and
the
horses
that
make
all
the
noises
at
one
two
three
in
the
morning
we're
used
to
it.
We
moved
out
there
knowing
that
would
be
like
that.
But
these
people
buying
those
homes
are
gonna,
are
not
gonna
realize
unless
they've
lived
out
there
as
to
how
it's
going
to
sound
at
night
and
sound
travels
at
night
and
I'm,
not
changing
my
lifestyle
to
accommodate
their
development
because
we
are
licensed
through
Pinellas
County.
D
M
AI
You
know
my
biggest
concern
is
I'm
pissed
that
we
weren't
notified.
You
know
my
house
and
the
other
one.
We
have
bought
this
property,
but
that
gentleman
gets
notified,
but
we
about
it
and
they
can't
even
notify
us
there's
a
sign
up
by
the
street.
You
drive
down
Keystone
to
50
miles
an
hour.
Can
you
really
read
that
yellow
notice
that
they
put
up
and
where
do
you
park
to
go
read
it.
AI
M
AI
A
Right
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
commission.
Now,
do
you
does
anybody
have
a
question
for
me?
Mr
McPherson?
Yes,
not.
W
So
much
a
question
to
Mr
Pearson:
do
we,
when
we
send
out
visits
from
my
own
knowledge,
do
we
send
out
a
notification
outside
of
Tarpon
to
let's
say
Pinellas,
County
I.
AI
I've
been
notified
by
Pioneer
homes,
because
they're
probably
about
stars
too
so,
but
they
notify
us
when
they're
going
to
have
a
hearing
with
you
guys.
But
this
we
never
got
notified.
Nor
did
the
family
owns
the
horse
farm
across
the
street,
because
I
once
spoke
to
them
this
morning,
because
they
had
no
idea.
D
A
Let
me
anybody.
AI
AI
Better,
if
you've,
if
anyone's
ever,
had
PVC
fence,
because
one
of
our
neighbors
do
I
understand
they're
pressure,
washing
it
twice
a
year
because
it's
Florida,
what
do
we
have
in
Florida
humidity?
And
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
look.
I,
have
a
there's,
a
split
rail
fence.
So
right
now,
that's
nice
to
look
at
I,
don't
be
looking
at
a
piece
of
junk
plastic
fence
that
follows
the
power
and
it
has
to
be
pressure
washed
twice
a
year.
It's.
Z
V
The
applicant
talked
about
proposing
a
six
foot
fence.
Would
you
be
opposed
to
a
larger
fence
being
eight
feet
at
all?
Well,
that's
fine!.
AI
Yeah
we've
got
four
generations
all
the
way
from
12
Years
down
to
six
months:
oh
15
of
them
and
yes,
they
go
in
the
house.
V
What
so
your
biggest
concern
in
this
situation
is
one
you,
you
feel
like
you
weren't
notified
to
that
you
think
the
neighbors
potentially
if
this
neighborhood
is
built,
are
going
to
be
upset
and
complain
about
your
operation,
that's
next
door
and
that
you're
not
going
to
have
your
property
rights
to
do
this
is
that
right.
AI
And
I'm
sure
the
family
with
on
the
horses,
it's
gonna
be
the
same
thing,
because
let
me
tell
you
some
nights
at
three
four:
in
the
morning
they
go
nuts
out
there
because
there's
coyotes
it
wakes
us
up,
but
I,
don't
call
her
and
say
when
it
wakes
this
up.
It's
like
okay,
there
is
something
out
there.
You
know
it's
either
someone's
roaming
around
or
it's
other
wildlife,
but
we
moved
out
there
with
that
intention.
AI
I've
lived
in
the
subdivisions
Landsberg,
which
is
one
of
the
nicer
ones
in
the
area
I
can
just
I,
would
never
want
to
live
behind
me
with
15
dogs,
and
anybody
like
that.
But
you
don't
move
into
a
neighborhood
like
landsbrook
and
expect
a
home
behind
you
with
15
dogs,
even
though
it's
not
part
of
their
development
right.
AI
Do
have
one
more
question
we
used
to
live
in
the
city
limits
of
Tarpon.
We
had
a
hard
enough
time
getting
Tarpon
police
to
our
home,
because
I
had
a
teenager
that
was
out
of
control.
How
are
they
going
to
come
over
there
and
maintain
problems
in
that
neighborhood?
Because
it's
on
the
other
side
of
19.
AI
AF
Imagine
I,
don't
I
can't
I,
don't
know
their
presentation
is
up,
but
the
project
boundary
you
there's
a
there's,
a
private
land
between
you
and
the
project
boundary.
The
other
thing
you
are
listed
on
our
notice
that
you
that
a
postcard
was
mailed
out
to
you.
I
can't
speak
to
what
happened
to
it,
left
our
offices,
but
you
were
on
the
notice
list.
So.
AF
AI
AI
A
AK
Mr
McPherson,
my
name
is
Brian
youngst.
Thank
you,
I!
Don't
want
to
belabor
this,
but
I
think
it's
a
really
important
point
that
director
Vincent
just
brought
up,
and
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
running
through
my
mind
when,
when
you
gave
your
address
and
we're
describing
where
you
lived,
when
you
got
a
party
status,
is
that
it
immediately
came
to
my
mind
that
I
didn't
think
that
you
were
actually
abutting
the
property
and
so
I
want
you
to
show
us
here.
This
is
the
pond
that
exists.
AK
AK
Okay,
and
so
this,
this
piece
of
property
here
is
not
actually
being
developed,
is
that
correct
is.
AL
So
your
property
goes
like
this,
and
it
abuts
this
property
here
is
that
right,
yeah,
so
your
property
is
essentially
this
pizza.
Is
that
right,
okay,.
AK
AG
AK
So
there
is
a
piece
of
this
property
here
that
is
owned
by
Mr
Smith,
so
Mr
Smith's
property
comes
down
on
a
little
sliver
of
an
L.
So
this
is
HOA
property.
This
this
green
with
the
dotted
line.
And
then,
when
you
get
on
this
side
of
the
dotted
line,
you
have
Mr
Smith
and
then
you
have
you
and
then
you
have
the
property
to
the
South
here.
So
you
are
actually
bifurcated
bisected
by
Mr
Smith's
property
here
and
your
property
is
actually
over
here.
AK
So
it
looks
like
number
one:
there
are
no
homes
being
developed
here,
it's
all
buffer
area
being
controlled
by
the
HOA,
and
then
this
area
is
owned
by
Mr
Smith,
which
goes
up
to
the
Tot
Lot.
And
then
your
home,
your
your
property,
starts
right
here,
so
your
piece
of
property
appears
doesn't
about
any
pieces
of
the
property
that
are
being
developed
and
no
offense
is
going
in
this
area.
AK
E
J
Do
David
Ballard,
Gettys,
Jr
I
live
on
Georgia
Avenue
in
Palm
Harbor,
looking
at
this
property
from
a
bird's
eye
view
on
Google
Maps,
here,
I
notice
that
there
is
a
a
power
grid,
easement
that
enters
the
property
on
the
south
end
and
there
is
a
large
power
grid
easement
on
the
north
end
of
this
property
as
well
down
the
street
on
Keystone
Road,
past
Matt,
Geiger's
house
off
old
Keystone
road
is
where
there
are
well
production.
Huge
water
mains
down
there
24
inch
water
mains,
they're,
pulling
water
out
of
the
ground.
J
J
These
easements
would
be
readily
available
to
pump
that
water,
and
this
development
is
just
a
diversion
smoke
and
mirrors
to
the
underlying
and
real
intent
and
purpose
for
this
property
you're
being
buffooned
and
with
diseasements
in
mind
on
the
North
End
and
the
south.
End
of
this
property,
a
well-point,
would
serve
as
an
ideal
location,
pumping
water.
O
Mark
Washburn
124
East,
Lake
Drive
in
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida,
I'm,
also
the
president
of
saveyslake.org,
and
we
have
over
200
members
that
are
comprised
of
people
in
that
neighborhood
in
the
Keystone
area
and
excuse
my
sore
throat.
So
I
I
made
some
phone
calls
and
many
people
called
me
about
this
development
and
I
did
get
a
couple
calls
of
people
saying
that
they
lived
right
next
door
to
the
development
and
never
received
notification
which
is
required.
O
I,
believe
you
guys
have
a
250
foot
requirement
of
being
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
receive
a
notification.
500,
okay,
yeah
I,
think
Pinellas.
County
is
a
quarter
mile,
but
of
course
the
the
land
is
much
larger
in
the
county,
but
so
I've
pulled
a
lot
of
people.
And
yes,
the
the
property
owned
by
the
mcalpins
for
years
was
raped
of
the
soil
to
be
sold
to
developers
and
that's
primarily
how
they
paid
for
the
property.
O
It
was
a
cash
cow
for
many
years
for
them
it
paid
for
the
property
it
took
care
of
their
taxes
and
to
the
detriment
of
several
of
the
homeowners
on
on
George
Street.
There
was
at
least
a
couple
homeowners
that
actually
had
their
air
conditioning
units
fail
because
of
the
fact
that
they
were
getting
so
much
dust
from
those
trucks
hauling
up
and
down
the
that
road
there
and,
unfortunately,
the
mcalpins
wouldn't
help
them
or
take
care
of
the
the
dust
issue.
O
Of
course,
they
want
to
now
maximize
their
profit
by
basically
grooming,
the
property
to
be
as
as
valuable
as
possible,
which
of
course
means
that
by
rezoning
it
now
from
agricultural
use,
which
is
what
they
raped,
the
the
property
from
before
to
residential,
and
that
that's
the
main
issue,
so
most
of
the
neighbors
I
pulled
said
they're
not
against
the
development
on
the
property
at
all,
but
it
has
to
be
in
character
with
the
neighborhood
and
the
neighborhood
has
a
minimum
of
two
acre
lots
all
around,
and
you
know
two
acres
equates
to
90
000
square
feet.
O
That's
what
I
live
on
a
90,
000
square
foot
lot
and
they're,
proposing
lots
that
are
average
for
around
seven
thousand
square
feet
about
like
this,
and
it's
just
completely
out
of
character
with
the
neighborhood.
These
tiny
little
setbacks
yeah.
They
argue
that
the
setbacks
aren't
being
chained,
requested
to
be
changed.
Well,
that's
because
they
want
it
to
be
rezoned
to
RDP
RPD,
so
that
then
it'll
basically
be
the
correct
setbacks.
But
if
it's
left
as
it
is,
it
really
should
be.
O
They
could
spill
still
build
20
something
homes,
probably
27
homes
that
would
be
in
character.
They
could
double
their
lot
sizes
to
maybe
14
000
and
then
build
still.
The
nice
two
three
four
thousand
square
foot
homes
and
I
believe
that
most
of
my
neighbors
would
be
satisfactory
with
that
as
a
solution,
they
can
still
make
plenty
of
money.
The
homes
would
be
more
upscale,
and
that
was
the
other
big
concern
if
they
build
these
tiny
little
homes.
O
D
A
AP
D
K
Chris
roboski
1602
Gulf,
Beach,
Boulevard,
Tarpon,
Springs
34689,
so
once
again
in
that
region,
we've
got
somebody
who's
trying
to
take
the
two
acres.
One
house
per
two
acres
thing
and
just
turn
it
on
its
head
is
to
maximize
profits,
and
it's
just
not
right.
You
know
the
overlay.
We
had
this
conversation
before
you
know
you
had
ex-state
representative
nearing
here,
telling
you
what
they
did
as
far
as
the
overlay
goes
and
it
just
you
this
doesn't
fit.
K
Even
even
Renee
says
it
doesn't
fit
the
character
of
the
area
and
Mark
Washburn
told
you
the
neighbors
once
again,
they're
not
objecting
to
development
of
the
property.
They
just
want
you
to
do
it
right,
tell
them
to
do
it
the
right
way,
which
is
one
house
per
two
acres?
That's
it
they'll
still
make
plenty
of
money
on
it.
They
still
get
to
develop
it.
They
just
don't
get
to
break
the
freaking
rules
right
which
they've
been
doing,
and
there
wasn't
much
talk
about
the
traffic
thing.
I
mean
how
many
hundreds
of
cars
are.
K
We
talking
here
that
what
I
I'm
surprised
this
project
that
that
really
didn't
come
up
much.
There
was
a
traffic
study.
It
wasn't
given
to
you
guys
how
many
cars
are
we
talking
and
they're
going
to
have
to
do
this
crazy,
U-turn
business
on
Keystone
a
bit
driven
on
Keystone
people
really
drive
fast
on
that
road.
We
had
an
office
on
there
for
years,
I
mean
it's
quite
it's
quite
a
thing.
I
mean
I.
I
have
no
doubt
that
the
county
did
not
want
them
to
have
that
Ingress
and
egress
on
Keystone
Road.
K
L
Before
I
get
into
some
of
the
information
here
in
this
packet,
let's
do
a
little
history
lesson.
History
lesson.
L
I
was
on
the
board
when
the
mcalpins
Mr
mcalpin's,
dad
yui,
came
forward
and
wanted
to
excavate
this
burrow
pit.
There
was
already
a
small
one
there
already
one
to
excavate
it
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there
was
a
restrictive
covenant.
My
memory
fails
me
or
if
it
was
conditional
use,
but
they
were
required
to
put
a
buffer
between
their
property
and
the
first
property
there.
L
I
don't
know
if
you
can
notice,
it
is
Mr
McKell,
Mr
Vaughn,
and
he
had
come
to
many
meetings
that
they
had
with
regard
to
this
and
part
of
what
was
agreed
that
they
would
maintain
that
buffer,
but
they
didn't
trees,
died,
snow,
buffer
and
Mr
Smith
and
Mr
McPherson
product
and
confirmed
that
so.
L
D
L
L
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is,
if
you
look
at
what
they're
wanting
to
fill
in
at
the
bottom
of
the
pond,
going
to
keep
that
land
from
shifting
into
the
pond
and
collapsing
big,
some
big
Geo
technical
stuff,
but
I
stopped
by
Mr
Vons
today,
because
I
knew
he
had
had
issues
with
this
before,
and
he
also
had
air
conditioning
problems
they
had
to
replace
theirs
because
the
trucks
were
coming
up
and
down.
You
may
remember
it
yeah
yep
yeah,
and
they
did
sell
all
that
dirt
and
probably
the
dirt.
L
So,
oh,
and
by
the
way
Mr
Vaughn
says
he
does
not
recall
receiving
any
notification
now
I'd
like
to
go
to
this
page
here.
This
project
features
highlights
public
facilities
and,
to
me
this
is
a
big
elephant
in
the
room
that
hasn't
been
discussed:
potable
water
and
wastewater
services
to
be
provided
by
Pinellas
County.
L
You
are
doing
a
fiduciary
negligence
to
the
current
city,
users
of
our
water
treatment
plant
and
our
Wastewater
Plant,
by
not
requiring
them
to
hook
up
to
city,
water
and
city
sewer,
and
if
you
look
at
the
bond
covenants
and
I
brought
this
up
with
the
save
East,
Lake
Bond
covenants,
say
when
you
Annex
or
bring
in
property
or
bring
in
new
development,
they
need
to
hook
up
to
the
system.
Otherwise
you
keep
an
annexing
and
bringing
all
these
subdivisions
in
these
areas
in
but
we're
not
getting
any
benefits.
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
M
A
V
A
AK
Thank
you,
I'll
be
concise.
This
has
been
a
very
long
meeting.
We
had
a
very
long
pnz
meeting.
We
were
very
thankful
and
grateful
that,
after
that,
pnz
meeting
that
the
pnz
saw
fit
to
have
a
five
to
one
recommendation
for
your
approval
of
the
project
and
I
think
that
we
have
developed,
and
you
have
developed
improvements
to
the
project
tonight
through
the
conditions
of
approval
that
you
have
recommended
and
that
we
have
agreed
to
I.
I
want
to
address
just
very
briefly
the
notice
issue.
AK
As
you
all
know,
the
notice
is
sent
out
by
the
city
not
sent
out
by
the
applicant.
That
question
came
up
at
pnz
and
it
was
the
testimony
of
the
staff
that
the
notice
goes
out
to
a
list
of
500
I'm.
Sorry,
a
list
of
residents
within
500
feet
which
would
be
holistic
of
the
entire
boundary,
so
it'd
be
500
feet
of
any
portion
of
the
boundary
of
the
property,
which
certainly
would
have
included
the
Lexington
Place
Townhomes,
which
are
part
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
and
some
of
the
single-family
homes
in
the
area.
AK
And
you
heard
tonight
that
Mr
McPherson
was
on
that
list.
Whether
he
got
the
notice
or
not,
I
don't
know,
but
he
was
on
the
city's
mailing
list
and
you'll
be
able
to
confirm
with
the
staff
tomorrow
what
the
mailing
list
was
so
in
terms
of
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
as
you
all
know.
Well,
the
law
is
very
clear
that
if
a
person
shows
up
and
appears
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
they
waive
any
complaints
about
notice
and
just
that's
a
legal
point.
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record.
AK
But
you
don't
have
any
evidence
tonight
that
there
was
a
affected
party
that
should
have
received
notice
that
didn't
that's
all
subjective,
there's
no
actual
competent,
substantial
evidence
before
the
board
and
if
there
was
an
error,
I'm
sure
you'll
find
out
and
and
audit
that
with
the
staff
and
if
there
was
then
then
we'll
deal
with
it.
But
as
of
right
now,
there
is
no
competent
substantial
evidence
that
there
was
a
notice
issue.
AK
So
tonight
we've
agreed
to
all
the
conditions
of
approval
from
the
staff
the
condition
of
approval
from
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
Regarding
disclosures
marketing
and
HOA
documents
incla,
including
Express,
disclosures
that
there
are
agricultural
uses
in
the
unincorporated
Pinellas
County
areas,
abutting
the
property
for
anyone
who
is
purchasing
a
home
in
in
this
development.
AK
The
condition
of
approval
that
Mr
Mayor
lot
51
and
all
of
the
wetlands
be
included
in
the
platted
HOA
area
and
all
the
it's
all
part
of
the
rpud
is
all
part
of
the
of
the
HOA,
so
that
the
ho
way
will
maintain
that
conservation,
easement
and
the
HOA
will
maintain
those
Wetlands.
Those
two
Wetland
areas
also,
commissioner,
Carr,
that
we
will
work
with
the
city
and
the
county
to
identify
an
appropriate
location
for
a
bench
and
shaded
area
for
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
using
the
Pinellas
County
Trail.
AK
Also
that
we
will
eliminate
one
of
the
Lots
I
believe
there
were
lots
14
through
17.
But
if
you
were
to
see
fit
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
those
conditions
you
can.
We
can
parse
that
out
at
that
time,
so
reducing
the
number
of
lots
in
the
cluster
from
50
to
49
and
I
believe
that
that
was
in
this
area
here
on
the
site
plan.
I
do
want
to
also
point
out
that
there
is
no
fence
along
the
borrow
Pond.
AK
The
fence
runs
around
the
homes
to
buffer
the
homes
and
also
the
Landscaping
to
buffer
the
homes,
and
there
is
significant
forestry
in
this
area
already
so
there's
already
significant
Landscaping
in
this
area.
So
when
you
say
you
know,
Miss
Mr
McPherson,
you
know
he's
not
going
to
be
looking
at
a
fence
and
he's
not
going
to
have
offense
of
budding
his
property.
So
I
hope
that
any
conditions
of
approval
that
might
have
been
in
your
minds
about
the
fence-
hopefully
those
were
resolved.
But
if
not,
we
can
address
those.
AK
If
you,
if
you'd
like
to
ask
us
to
consider
any
of
those
and
then,
of
course,
the
condition
that
we
would
work
with
the
staff
to
identify
appropriate
visitor
parking
and
potentially
look
potentially
look
at
widening
the
road
I,
don't
think
we
can
commit
to
widening
the
road,
because
the
staff
might
not
support
that.
I.
Think
it's
important
to
realize
that
staff
comment
about
no
on-street
parking
came
from
the
fire
department.
AK
That
was
a
life
safety
issue
and
so
I
understand
that
you
have
enforcement
issues
and
complaints
from
Neighbors
who
live
in
HOAs,
who
don't
have
on
street
parking,
but
I
think
the
city
staff
needs
an
opportunity
to
work
with
us
to
look
at
that
particular
issue
to
see
if
widening
the
road
for
on-street
parking
would
be
beneficial
or
if
we
should
just
have
some
dedicated
spaces
in
areas
that
are
publicly
accessed
accessible
for
visitor
parking
without
widening
the
road.
But
we
are
open
to
that
condition
of
approval
as
well,
so
again,
Mr
Mayor,
Commissioners
I.
AK
Thank
you
for
your
staff
and
a
very
thoughtful
process,
and
respectfully
your
honor
and
Commissioners
I
submit
to
you
that
the
applicant
has
met
its
burden
through
competent,
substantial
evidence
that
the
plan,
the
RPD,
meets
all
of
the
criteria
that
the
staff
laid
out
and
the
staff
Report,
with
the
conditions
of
approval
for
approval
of
the
RPD
rezoning
for
approval
of
the
waiver
regarding
the
eight
foot,
wide
wide
walk
and
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
those
conditions
and
respectfully
from
a
legal
perspective.
I,
don't
I,
don't
think.
AK
AB
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
Mr
Bessie
that
this
was
a
very
tight
application.
You've
obviously
done
a
lot
of
work.
You
went
through
a
lot
of
of
technical
review
committee
meetings
Etc
over
the
years.
I,
however,
am
not
convinced
that
this
project
meets
the
General
nature
of
the
neighborhood.
AB
I
really
don't
know
if
it
meets
compatibility
requirements
underneath
our
comprehensive
law,
so
I
at
this
point
would
go
to
vote
no.
D
V
Amir
I
mean
we
could
talk
amongst
each
other
right.
V
Vice
mayor
line
is
there
from
a
standpoint
of
a
project?
Is
there
something
that
you
would
feel
it
would
be?
The
27
would
be
the
max
amount
of
units
on
this
property
that
you'd
feel
comfortable
with,
which
is
the
agricultural
zoning
on
it.
AB
You
know
I
I,
think
the
flavor
of
this
project
is
is
just
not
with
the
intent
of
of
that
particular
area
of
our
city
or
of
our
County
I.
Think
if
we
start
letting
you
know
somewhat
urban
sprawl
crawl
into
that
area,
you
take
away
from
the
lifestyle
of
people
that
have
lived
here
and
and
worked
here
and
done
that
for
generations
and
and
it's
just
like
not
inevitable,
it's
only
inevitable.
If
you
let
it
happen
and
we
have
the
the
the.
AB
You
know
getting
hit
by
cars
because
there's
too
much
traffic,
that
sort
of
thing
I
think
that's
a
lifestyle,
that's
worth
preserving
I'm,
not
quite
sure,
there's
anything
they
could
do
here
except
meet
the
basic
tenets
of
the
Agricultural
designation
of
the
property
and
and
put
one
house
for
two
acres
that
would
suit
the
neighborhood
sure.
Okay,
thanks!
V
Yeah,
that's
what
I
was
asking
so
so
I
could
just
tell
you
from
from
my
standpoint:
I
really
do
not
like
RPD
zoning
at
all.
It
drives
me
crazy.
There's,
multiple
developments,
I
know
it's
allowed
or
it's
allowed
in
our
zoning.
It's
it's
part
of
our
code,
but
it
really
creates
developments
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
see,
or
it
gives
more
flexibility
to
the
developers
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
with
this
I
mean
I
do
think
that
they
met
the
criteria
across
the
street.
V
There's
plenty
of
developments
that
fit
these
similar
types
of
homes.
When
you
break
this
down,
it's
it's
less
than
one
house
per
acre
out
of
the
53
Acres,
or
so.
If
they
build
a
total
of
50
homes
in
the
property,
including
the
state
lot,
it's
still
one
house
per
acre
across
all
the
Lots
I
I,
don't
like
I
mentioned
I,
don't
like
RPD,
but
it's
in
our
it's
on
our
plane.
It's
in
our
zoning.
It's
our
it's
allowed
to
be
used.
So
with
that
I
mean
I.
AB
V
But
it's
from
a
cluster
standpoint,
though
it's
it's
you've
got
you've
got
one,
that's
just
down
the
road
on
Keystone
Road,
that's
a
development!
That's
clustered!
You've
got
Lexington
across
the
way.
That's
clustered
is
there.
It
would
be
great
to
have
two
acre
lots:
yeah
100,
but
our
zoning
here
and
future
land
uses
one
acre
per
house,
and
so
that's
where
we're
at
with
this
and
that's
what
needs
to
be
evaluated.
It's
not
two
acres
per
house.
V
It's
one
acre
per
house
in
the
current
land
use
and
current
zoning
in
that
aspect,
so
I'll
just
go
through
the
the
conditions
that
I
feel.
That
would
be
needed
to
be
added
for
me
to
support
it
tonight
and
I'll,
just
I'm
in
support
of
the
waiver,
the
what
to
remove
the
west
side
Sidewalk
and
the
eight
foot
sidewalk
on
the
east
side.
I
would
also
eliminate
one
of
at
least
one
property,
at
least
one
of
the
lots
I'm
sorry
from
14
to
17.,
which
would
take
the
cluster
from
40
I'm.
V
Sorry,
it
would
take
the
cluster
from
50
to
49.,
adding
a
seating
area
along
the
bike
trail
and
the
easement
or
within
the
buffer
area,
the
width
of
the
road
to
allow
parking
on
one
side
of
the
street.
That
would
also
allow
emergency
vehicles
to
safely
pass
and
the
roadway
offense
a
vinyl
fence
up
to
eight
feet.
That
would
be
non-white
or
block
wall
along
the
east
side
of
the
property.
V
A
A
Do
you
just
from
a
kind
of
a
a
process
perspective?
This
is
going
to
come
back
for
a
second
reading.
At
some
point,
do
you
want
those
all
done
before
the
second
reading?
You've.
V
A
W
W
X
Want
to
thank
the
applicant,
you
guys
done
a
great
job
in
and
doing
your
best
to
fill
the
needs
and
and
and
work
with
City
staff.
I
do
have
some
concerns
with
just
regarding
plan
development.
Right
now
we
got
some
land
use
codes.
The
way
things
have
the
the
way
I've
interpreted
and
balanced.
It
is
right
now
at
this
moment
it's
not
something
I'm
going
to
support,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
over.
X
Yet
you
know
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job
in
in
trying
to
work
with
staff
and
just
depending
on
us
doing
some
upkeeping
and
cleaning
up
some
things,
I
think
is
going
to
allow
an
opportunity
for
everybody
to
either
represent
themselves
or
give
a
clear
Direction
on
where
we're
going
to
go
and
that's
relatively
soon.
So.
Thank
you
all.
A
A
A
And
did
that
include
I
think
we
pre
and
that
included
the.
A
Not
include
the
including
the
single
family
home
that
lot
51
is
part
of
the
homeowners
association
that
did
include
yeah.
That
did
include.
A
Right,
so
that's
all
right:
here's
here's
where
I
am
I
I,
and
this
is
where
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
Carr,
but.
A
I
I
have
some
some
doubts
with
regard
to
compatibility
and
and
and
it's
not
an
issue-
and
you
know
Mr
Hayden,
In,
fairness
to
him,
I
I
know
we
got
into
this
little
bit
of
the
you
know
whether
you
can
legally
do
this
or
that,
but
the
legality
of
it
doesn't
really
matter
that
the
city
hall
still
gets
the
phone
calls,
whether
it's
legal
or
not.
A
A
There's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that,
even
though
a
homeowner
signs
a
document
saying
that
they're
aware
that
there's
a
livestock
or
dogs
or
something
in
the
neighborhood
at
some
point,
nerves
are
going
to
get
frayed
and
that
telephone
is
going
to
be
called
down
to
the
county
to
complain
about
the
dogs,
barking
and
who's
going
to
come
out
there.
It's
either
going
to
be
well
in
this
particular
case.
A
I
I,
don't
know
you
know
the
the
the
other
projects
that
were
cited,
especially
I,
think
it
was
the
Pioneer
North
Lake
phase,
two
I,
don't
know
what
it's
called
now,
but
it's
the
one
up
to
the
northeast
of
it.
There
were
a
lot
of
complaints
about
the
houses
not
being
half
unit
per
acre,
but
they
were
one
acre
and
then
there
was
an
argument
over
the
Mother-in-law
homes
and
things
like
that.
A
Not
all
of
them
were
going
to
be
able
to
have
them,
but
at
least
they
were
one
one
acre
homes,
the
the
the
wetlands
were
preserved.
The
whole
thing
and
Ms
Ms
Vincent
also
gave
us
a
back
of
the
envelope
calculation
that,
as
of
the
zoning
right
now,
27
homes
could
be
built
there
and
I
think
you
heard
Mr
Washburn
basically
say
that
is
even
a
lot
better
than
what
we've
got
right
now
and
so
I
I
think
that
I
I'm
not
against
this
project
and
sense
of
residential
at
that
location.
A
A
You
know
sort
of
On
The
Fringe
of
the
of
the
city
sort
of
thing.
Then
you
would
have
something
that
you've
got
dogs
with
a
kennel
living
next
door
and
horses
and
things
like
that
and
and
people
are
consigned
they
can
sign
the
documents.
Well,
they
love
the
home,
they
love
the
setting
and
and
and
then
they
sign
it
move
into
the
home,
but
then
all
of
a
sudden,
after
a
few
months,
it's
like
geez.
A
You
know
they
told
me
there
was
going
to
be
animals
out
here,
but
they
didn't
tell
me
it
was
going
to
be
that
many
animals
out
here,
barking
and
stuff
and
and
so
I'm
quite
concerned
about
that
and
that
gets
into
Mrs
Vincent's
comments
about
compatibility
that
she's
not
so
sure
that
that
that
is
the
issue
and
I'm
and
then
of
course,
the
other
part
that
I'm,
probably
gonna,
not
probably
I'm,
going
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
is,
is
concerning
the
transportation
if
the
study
was
done,
why
wasn't
it
given
to
us
to
at
least
look
at
it?
A
There's
some
seems
to
be
a
difference
of
opinion.
As
far
as
the
traffic
circulation
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
there's
a
problem,
all
I'm
saying
is
I,
don't
know,
and
it's
the
same
thing
that
we
went
with
a
couple
of
other
projects.
It's
it's
a
public
safety
issue
that
I
feel
that
I
would
be
remiss
and
not
at
least
having
something
in
front
of
me
to
basically
check
that
off.
We
just
don't
know.
Even
though
Pinellas
County
has
approved
the
access
just
like
fdot
approves
accesses.
A
I
still
feel
some
obligation
on
the
city's
part
to
to
to
to
double
check
that
and
lastly,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
make
my
comment
to
direct
it
to
Mr
angst
I.
Think
if
you
remember
the
home
down
there
on
the
on
Grand
Boulevard
and
park
in
court
by
the
time
we
got
to
the
commission,
there
were
so
many
conditions
associated
with
it.
A
I
I
think
it
was
my
comment
that
said,
how
can
this
actually
be
managed
from
the
standpoint
of
the
city
staff
to
ensure
all
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
done
and,
and
some
of
them
are
going
to,
they
could
be
counter
competing.
In
other
words,
one
could
compete
against
the
other.
We
don't
know
so
we
would
be
laying
in
in
addition
to
23,
we
would
be
adding
another
nine,
so
that
would
make
it
32
conditions
on
this
application.
A
That
would
have
to
be
satisfied
at
some
point
by
the
time
you
brought
that
back
to
us
and
I'm
really
really
uncomfortable
to
the
point
where,
if
you've
got
that
many
conditions
and
suggested
changes,
it's
like
we
may
have
a
different
project
in
terms
of,
and
maybe
some
obstacles
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
and
and
I
just
I
would
prefer
that
and
I
I
know.
It
always
involves
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that
from.
A
I
think
the
staff
can
work
with
the
commission
a
little
better
I
think
in
the
sense
of
outside
this,
this
sense
of
trying
to
rush
things
through
and
that's
the
best
that
I
can
offer
you
tonight.
I
I
don't
want
to
I'm,
not
denying
the
project
because
I
I'm
I'm
telling
you
it's
something
that
the
city
doesn't
want.
We
want
these
types
of
homes,
I'm
just
saying
that
right
now,
there's
there's
too
many
conditions
for
it
to
fit
and
approval
tonight
and
for
to
expect
you
to
come
back
and
satisfactorily
address
everything.
A
So
does
any
commissioner
have
anything
else
to
say,
commissioner
Carr
anything.
AE
V
A
Too,
so
that's
defend
the
problem.
I
agree
with
you
on
the
RPD
I
think
we
get
it
to
the
extreme
and
like
it's
always.
I
would
like
to
see
some
kind
of
a
straight,
an
arms
length
sort
of
project
rather
than
all
this
convoluted
stuff.
That's
wrapped
in
19
acre
lot.
But
then
all
the
other
lots
are
6
500
square
feet.
That.
V
You
could
stand
between
the
houses
and
touch
them
right
and
they're
I
mean
it's
like
it's:
it's
not
a
town
home,
so
we're
basically
town
homes,
so
I
think
there's
some
areas
that
the
board's
been
clear
at
what
they
want
to
see
to
prevent
something
like
this
in
the
future.
To
put
some
codes
in
place,
and
so.
AE
A
Right
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
for
the
purposes
of
of
our
academic.
A
Is
right,
but
also
list
that
we've
got
the
23.
The
waiver
plus
include
your
nine
in
there.
They
include
I,
think
the
one
that
I
was
interested.
Yours
you've
got
a
full-size
mini
park
right
yeah,
let's
go
ahead
and
include
that
all
in
there,
and
that
would
be
something
that,
if
it,
if
it
gets
approved,
then
obviously
that's
what
we
need
to
do
if
it
gets
denied,
which
I
suspect
it's
just
going
to
happen.
It'll
give
something
the
the
developer
to
work
with
as
far
as
coming
back.
If
they
would
like
to
come
back.
V
Sure
yeah,
okay
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve,
including
the
23
conditions,
from
staff
in
the
backup,
including
the
waiver,
as
well
with
the
waiver
request
for
the
sidewalk
by
the
applicant
and
then
the
additional
nine
conditions
that
I
added
here.
In
my
comment.
AB
A
So
this
is
these
are
the
requirements
we
came
up
with
and
then
there's
also
the
compatibility
issue
with
a
number
of
homes
and
making
the
lots
a
little
larger,
and
that
sort
of
thing
that's
something.
There's
going
to
have
to
be
a
break-even
point
for
Mr,
Hayden
I.
Think
it's
Hayden
development
is
that
correct
Aid
and
development
Aid
and
development
yeah
to
deal
with.
So
we
have
a
first
and
second
roll
call.
Please,
commissioner,.
AE
AE
M
A
V
V
V
A
G
Course
so
what
I
would
recommend
is
we
need
to
do?
10.
10
is
the
ordinance
of
the
property
Purge
for
the
referendum
stuff.
We
need
to
do
that
one.
If
we
have
time
from
the
other
item,
we
missed
on
special
consent
that
can
be
moved
to
next.
That's
easy!
There's
two
proposals:
I
have
that
we
could
do
with
all
the
items
in
nine
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
G
The
two
options
would
be
to
defer
it
to
Monday
night
after
our
meeting
on
deciding
on
the
attorney
that
shouldn't
take
too
long,
and
we
could
do
it,
there's
a
first
reading
and
the
second
reading
can
still
be
held
the
next
night.
Obviously,
if
there
was
issues
in
that
first
reading
Monday
night,
they
couldn't
be
resolved
in
a
turnover
24
hours.
G
Then
we
can
always
move
the
second
reading
to
January,
or
we
can
just
defer
all
these
to
a
first
reading
on
our
Tuesday
night
meeting
next
week
as
the
first
reading
and
then,
of
course,
we
defer
the
second
reading
to
the
first
meeting
in
January.
Those
are
the
two
options
we
can
do
with
item
nine,
but
we
need
to
do
the
the
property
purchase
referendum,
one
which
shouldn't
take
any
more
than
10
minutes
and
it's
an
option:
the
reappointment,
the
Housing
Authority,
it's
one
person,
there's.
V
M
AE
A
Because
what
we'll
do
is,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
10..
Let's
get
let's
get
moving
here
and
get
things
done.
What
we
have
is
a
item
we're
going
to
jump
to
item
10.
I'm
allowed
to
jump
around
a
little
bit
item:
10,
ordinance,
2022-35,
the
Ross
property
Ms
galastigi.
If
you
could
read
that
by
title,
please.
G
A
D
L
With
regard
to
item
10
Peter
relax,
514,
Ashland
Avenue-
this
is
definitely
something
that
we
need
to
have
done,
so
we
can
have
the
citizens
vote
on
it,
and
I
would
also
recommend
to
the
city
that
they
put
some
information
out
as
to
the
value
of
this,
not
only
for
preservation
but
the
utilities
and
the
easement
stuff.
L
A
Okay,
there's
no
one
else
out
here:
Mr
jump!
Is
there
any
remote
access
comments.
A
O
V
I
just
have
a
quick
comment,
so
the
appraised
value
or
a
question
mark.
So
the
praise
value
came
out
in
491
312
for
this
piece
of
property
and
then
the
agreed
upon
sale
price
is
728.
Yes,
okay
and
my
understanding
he
had
offers
much
higher
than
the
728
that
I
understand
correctly
too.
Yes,
so
I
think
it's.
V
It
would
be
wise
to
put
out
some
type
of
information
out
there
that
you're
able
to
get
a
better
price,
although
it's
higher
than
the
appraised
value,
and
if
you
were
to
do
imminent
domain,
it
would
still
put
it
at
that's
125
percent
of
the
appraised
value
until
put
it
at
614
000
and
that
doesn't
include
attorney
fees.
So,
even
if
you
want
the
eminent
domain
route,
it
would
probably
still
be
around
the
720.
M
A
Right
roll
call,
please
commission.
B
A
AE
A
G
G
D
G
D
A
Look,
what
are
we,
let's
defer
them
for
right
now
to
what
you're
saying
is
to
Monday
night,
you.
G
A
G
V
A
B
A
A
Yes,
okay,
that
ends
the
agenda
for
this
evening.
Let's
go
to
public
comments.
T
A
So
MS
calistini
all
right
see
you
manager.
G
AB
G
AB
Nope
thanks
for
all
the
hard
work
tonight
guys:
oh,
we
did
a
good
job
and
and
I
think
it's
we
did
the
right
stuff.
So
thank
you.
A
V
Thanks
mayor
really,
this
past
week
was
a
fun
week
with
different
celebrations
that
were
going
on
enjoyed
the
tree
lighting
I
know,
there's
multiple
tree
lightings,
but
enjoyed
the
the
first
Friday
and
the
staff
did
a
great
job.
Looking
forward
to
the
Christmas
parade,
Saturday
it's
put
on
by
the
chamber
and
some
other
organization
I
think
some
help
from
the
Rotary
Club.
So
looking
forward
to
seeing
all
the
residents
out
there.
X
I,
just
wanna
I
was
out
of
town
for
for
the
weekend,
but
I
did
hear
and
see
all
the
wonderful
things
for
the
the
Christmas
celebrations,
the
first
Friday
and
everything
went
well
and
just
hats
off
to
the
city
and
everyone
in
it.
Thank
you,
though,.
A
AD
A
Smiling
I
guess
it's
good
and
it
was.
It
was
just
a
tremendous
weekend.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
tremendous
holiday
season.
I
think
Epiphany
is
going
to
be
just
if
we
could
hope
for
a
little
bit
of
good
weather.
We've
got
another
couple
of
extraordinary
events
this
month.
Some
benefits
that
I
think
are
important
for
many
people
in
the
community.
A
That'll
be
done.
Also
I
wanted
to
mention
the
passing
of
a
a
long
time
activists,
I,
guess
I
would
say
business
owner
in
Tarpon,
Springs,
Miss,
Duchess,
sarfaris,
her
funeral
was
the
other
day
and
and
certainly
we're
gonna.
We
need
to
cultivate
more
people
like
her
to
keep
Tarpon
Springs.
That's
what
put
us
to
where
we
are
right
now
and
I'm
hoping
we
can
continue
her
Legacy
in
that
regard.
So
that's
all
I
have
meeting
adjourned
at
12
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Everybody.