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From YouTube: October 2, 2017
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Heritage Preservation Board Meeting
A
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It's
6:30
and
we
call
to
order
this
October,
2nd
2017
Heritage,
Preservation
Board.
As
you
notice,
our
flags
are
at
half
staff
in
the
front
of
the
building
in
reference
to
what's
happened
in
Vegas
and
we've
had
a
lot
to
be
thankful
for
in
this
community
and
the
minor
problems
that
we've
had
with
the
storm
in
comparison
other
places.
If
you'll
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence,
as
we
remember
those
in
Vegas
and
those
that
are
struggling
during
this
time
of
natural
disasters,.
A
A
A
A
E
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
of
the
hearing
demonstrate,
the
demonstrates
of
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
establishing
a
code
of
warrants
--is
and
the
board's
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant
are
the
any
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
expert,
the
communications
or
conflicts
of
interest.
Tonight
there
are
many
people
and
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
wishing
to
speak
tonight,
whether
in
favor
or
against.
If
you
could
please
stand
and
be
sworn
in.
E
F
F
The
commercial
building
is
proposed
to
8,000
square
feet
and
it
would
have
some
light
industrial
trade
businesses
within
the
structure.
There's
pictures
in
the
report
to
show
you
what
the
area
is
surrounding
it.
This
is
on
the
far
eastern
and
southern
boundaries
of
the
historic
district.
It's
an
eclectic
mix
right
now
of
commercial
residential
industrial
uses.
F
East
of
the
property
is
a
parking
lot.
The
west
of
the
lot
is
vacant.
There's
a
roofing
contractor
at
the
southeast
corner
directly
across
lemon
Street
from
this
property
is
a
nine
unit.
10,000
square
foot,
industrial
commercial
building,
similar
to
what's
being
proposed
on
the
other
side,
and
then
farther
west
of
this
site
is
an
auto
repair
service.
An
electrical
contractor
and
lemon
street
is
the
southern
border
of
the
historic
district.
F
Again,
the
new
commercial
building
will
be
non-contributing
and
non
historic.
There's
a
survey,
the
property
of
preliminary
site
plan
elevations
and
photos
to
show
you
what
the
proposed
building
will
look
like,
along
with
a
narrative
from
the
applicant
that
describes
the
types
of
building
materials.
F
This
building
is
consistent
with
other
buildings
that
are
in
the
neighborhood.
It
enhances
the
surrounding
older
commercial
buildings
as
a
newer
construction
building.
It's
obviously
going
to
be
it's
going
to
make
an
increase
to
the
to
the
other
adjacent
buildings.
The
size
of
it
is
8,000
square
feet.
The
20
feet
in
height
is
similar
or
smaller
than
other
structures
again
across
the
streets
at
10,000
square
foot,
building
with
nine
units
in.
F
Here
we
looked
at
the
preliminary
site
plan
which
does
address
all
of
the
setbacks,
the
roof
lines,
the
parking
and
the
landscaping
it
meets,
the
required
setbacks
at
the
parking
area.
That's
proposed
to
it.
You
look
at
the
design
review
guidelines
for
commercial
districts.
It
says
that
parking
areas
and
access
should
be
placed
to
the
rear.
The
side
yard
may
be
used
as
an
alternative
location
for
access
and
parking.
If
no
other
feasible
alternatives
can
be
found.
F
It
meets
the
criteria.
In
this
case
there
is
a
rear
alley.
There,
that's
unpaved
unimproved
on
maintain
and
it's
not
practicable
for
any
type
of
commercial
vehicles
or
customers.
Coming
to
that
building
criterion.
Number
four
talks
about
the
roof.
This
new
building
is
going
to
have
a
hip
roof
line
that
matches
similar
other
commercial
buildings
in
the
neighborhood,
the
size
and
mass
of
the
building.
F
It's
rectangular
in
shape,
they're,
putting
in
facade
elements
that
take
into
consideration
the
commercial
street
frontage
so,
rather
than
being
a
warehouse
type
of
building,
it's
being
treated
as
a
storefront,
there's
a
rendering
in
there.
What?
What
it
may
look
like,
it's
got
a
front
door,
it's
gonna
have
windows
and
awnings
on
it.
So
it's
going
to
look
more
like
a
storefront
than
what
a
typical
industrial
building
would
look
like
landscaping.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
make
the
front
entryway
nice
with
brick
pavers
and
some
palms
and
some
hedge
plans
on
the
on
the
front.
F
A
G
Good
evening
my
name
is
George
suits
and
a
couple
things
working
with
the
city
that
I've
added
to
studying
at
the
site
plan
is
all
the
roadway
within
the
project
will
be
with
brick
pavers,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
enhanced.
Monteux
I
want
it
to
be
nice
for
the
area
and
I
thought
that
they
would
add
a
lot
have
a
statement
coming
in
doing
a
study
on
the
elevations,
which
seems
to
be
important
to
the
city.
We
want
some
curb
appeal
to
be
welcoming.
A
Seeing
none
I
have
a
question
because
we
normally
vote
on
what's
in
the
application
what's
before
us,
but
we
have
these
two
different
options
being
presented
to
us
now.
If
a
motion
is
made
in
favour
or
in
rejection,
whichever
somebody
makes
a
motion
could
a
motion
include
the
option
for
the
applicant
to
include
those
as
a
potential
that
they
can
either
or
or.
H
A
A
I
G
So,
where
I
could
allow,
it
is
even
a
one
business
in
there
or
maybe
a
few
smaller
businesses
in
there
and
we're
trying
to
promote
things
that
it's
the
art
district.
You
know
so
things
that
kind
of
tie
in
with
that,
whether
it's
a
printer
or
ideally
an
artist
or
something
like
that,
but
if
they
had
it
in
there,
they
would
be
able
to
have
a
sexual
welcome
storefront
out
there
that
can
come
in
and
they
can
take
it
back
and
show
them
their
goods
or
whatever.
J
Good
evening,
chairman
bolton
and
board,
my
name
is
bill.
Vinson
I
live
at
144,
North,
Spring,
Boulevard
and
my
office
address
is
110
South
Levis
Avenue,
which
is
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
subject:
property
to
the
rear
of
my
office.
Building
my
office
building
is
an
old
house.
It's
probably
about
a
hundred
years
old.
My
dad
was
born
in
that
building.
J
Zeus's
property.
This
is
a
new
construction
and
in
the
section
on
new
construction,
it
says
that
the
intent
the
guidelines
is
to
ensure
that
a
building
new
building
design
is
compatible
or
sensitive,
with
the
existing
character
of
surrounding
blocks
and
the
district,
and
so
the
references
to
the
large
building
right
across
the
street.
J
A
J
And
I've
also
given
a
set
of
them
to
Mister
suits
and
the
first
two
were
taken
this
afternoon
looking
across
from
the
parking
lot
which
adjoins
mr.
suits,
is
property
over
towards
the
warehouse
building
and
unfortunately,
from
that
angle
that
I've,
given
you
can't
see
all
the
stuff,
that's
in
the
parking
area.
There's
pallets
and
it's
a
continual
thing,
pallets
of
materials,
there's
piles
of
debris-
and
you
can
see
well
don't
come
in
in
this
photo
too
much.
But
there's.
K
J
On
the
street
there
by
mr.
cantos
his
workers,
his
employees,
to
this,
to
the
effect
that
that's
a
two-lane
road
with
no
parking
on
it
and
so
school
buses,
police
cars,
fire
trucks
have
to
have
a
hard
time
getting
by
anyone
else,
and
the
second
two
photos
are
the
parking
lot
that
adjoins
mr.
suits
property
to
the
east,
it's
owned
by
the
method's
church.
They
allow
me
to
use
that
parking
lot
during
the
week
so
that
during
Sunday's
it's
available
for
the
church
but
and
I
know.
This
is
mr.
J
Zeus's
problem,
but
you
can
see
that
it's
typically
occupied,
if
you
ever
drive
by
there
with
vehicles
associated
with
businesses
over
where
mr.
cantos
is
the
point
I'm
showing
in
these
photos.
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
Mister
suits,
although
may
say
that
he's
going
to
have
an
artist
or
something
nice
in
there,
you
don't
have
any
knowledge
of
what's
going
to
happen,
and
it's
likely
I
mean
this.
J
This
has
been
going
on
a
contest
as
property
for
years,
and
the
city
goes
by
there
all
the
time
and
and
nothing's
been
done
about
that,
and
so
that's
a
main
concern.
Besides
the
fact
that
the
building
doesn't
really
fit
in
weights
oriented
the
use
of
the
alley,
I
see
you
have
a
driveway
going
into
the
alley:
the
alleys
not
suitable
for
commercial
traffic.
It's
a
one
lane
on
a
mess.
As
the
staff
report
reports,
it's
a
one
lane,
unimproved
alleyway,
that's
been
there
forever
I
used
to
play
in
it.
J
When
I
was
a
kid
lived
right
there
next
to
it,
but
it's
not
appropriate
for
business
and
I.
Don't
know
why
they
would
have
an
access
from
the
building
into
the
alleyway,
because
the
way
there's
not
gonna
be
room
enough
to
turn
a
vehicle
like
a
truck
in
there
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
that
aspect
of
it
as
well
and
I
see.
Also
here
miss
trans
Eddie,
who
is
planning.
J
She
owns
a
property
on
the
other
side
of
property,
and
she
can
speak
for
herself,
but
I
understand
if
she's
planning
to
build
a
small
home
right
there
on
the
property
to
the
west
of
mr.
Xu's
property,
and
that's
probably
not
going
to
be
very
appropriate.
You
know
for
making
a
comfortable
home
site,
and
so
my
objection
is
basically
the
orientation.
The
building
the
size
of
the
building,
it's
not
appropriate
for
historic
district
and
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
the
similar
kind
of
use
that
we
have
over
where
mr.
J
A
G
As
far
as
the
parking
concerned,
we-
and
we
put
it
right
in
our
lease-
do
not
allow
overnight
parking
on
and
IO
know.
The
buildings
like
this
I,
don't
see
any
comparison
between
the
concern
that
mr.
Vincent
has
with
contest
building
across
the
street
and
and
what
I'm
doing
with
an
awning
a
storefront,
the
materials
that
we're
going
to
use
in
there
or
I
think
more
appropriate
for
what
would
be
new
construction
and
enhance
the
neighborhood
like
that.
So
I
don't
think
that
we're
gonna
allow
outdoor
storage.
We
put
it
right
in
our
lease.
G
We
don't
allow
trailers
out
there.
We
don't
allow
the
type
of
materials
that
mr.
Benson
was
concerned
with
nets
right
into
my
lease.
So
if
the
building
will
be,
you
know,
enclose
and
they'll
be
parking,
which
is
you
know
during
the
day
and
then
at
night
the
building's
locked
up,
I
think
there's
also
certain
restrictions
on
who
we
can
rent
to
which
is,
and
if
there's
problems
with
existing
buildings
around
there,
which
is
kind
of
eclectic,
what's
happening
on
Lemmon
Street
I
think
it
could
be
a
code
enforcement
issue,
but
it
shouldn't
be
my
problem.
F
Just
a
couple
things
on
the
size
of
the
building,
there
are
other.
You
know,
though,
I
understand
that
across
the
street
is
outside
the
historic
district,
but
when
you
are
going
down
a
street,
you
look
at
the
buildings
that
are
surrounding
the
buildings
and
what
that
neighborhood
looks
like.
There
are
also
other
8,000
square
foot
buildings
and
are
located
in
the
historic
district
on
town
there.
F
There
are
a
couple
of
them
as
well,
so
there
are
large
buildings
that
are
located
within
the
historic
district
of
the
size,
you're
looking
at
a
new
construction
you're,
looking
at
the
with
the
special
area
plan
in
this
area,
dictates
it's
looking
for
commercial
buildings
like
this.
That's
that's!
What
is
attracting
to
this
area,
so
a
trade
building
like
this
we've
also
talked
about
other
types
of
buildings
for
artists,
and
things
like
that.
That
would
be
this.
F
This
type
of
a
building
when
you
have
several
different
storefronts
in
there,
they're
likely
we'll
be
seeing
more
of
these.
The
relation
to
the
to
the
street
was
mentioned.
The
building
will
be
fronting
Lemon
Street.
That's
why
the
facade
is
like
it
is
when
they
had
a
door
in
a
window
and
some
awnings
in
the
front.
So
it
will
look
like
a
store
front
facing
lemon.
The
side
of
the
building
facing
the
east.
That's
worthy,
the
warehouse
doors
will
be,
and
each
one
will
have
not
only
an
overhead
door
but
an
individual
door
door.
F
Wait
a
pedestrian
door
to
open
up
into
I.
Think
there's
a
photograph
there
look
something
similar
to
that.
So
in
looking
at
the
design,
standard
staff
believes
that
it
fits
within
the
guidelines.
Again,
it's
a
non
contributing
non
historic
building
as
being
a
new
building,
but
that
it
is
same
size
and
mass
and
scaling
that
we
believe
or
smaller
than
some
other
buildings
that
are
in
that
area.
You're.
F
Taking
advantage
of
the
size
of
this,
the
parking
is
on
the
side,
not
in
the
front
trying
to
make
the
layout
the
best
you
can
given
the
limitations
of
that
rear
alley
and
again,
it's
being
conditioned
upon
approval
by
Planning
and
Zoning
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
So
any
site
planning
issues
would
have
to
be
approved
by
Planning
and
Zoning,
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
G
G
G
K
A
C
I
Parking
issue:
if
there
are
people
parking
in
the
public
right-of-way
or
that's
everything
that
is
a
that's
an
enforcement
issue
that
we
can
deal
with
if
the
church
has
also
granted
him
the
opportunity
to
utilize
that
law.
That's
something
that,
because
this
is
an
existing
business,
we
wouldn't
necessarily
see
a
shared
parking
agreement.
It'd
be
a
little
different
say
if
it
was
for
mr.
I
zoots,
because
his
buildings
new
and
he
needed
additional
parking,
he
could
negotiate
that
with
another
parking
place
that
had
him
had
similar
sized
parking
lot
or
something
if
he
needed
additional
parking,
but
because
it's
an
existing
business,
we
don't
really
force
them
to
deal
with
a
shared
parking
agreement
like
the
district
require
allows
now,
because
it's
an
existing
condition.
It
was.
It
was
a
pre-existing
prior
to
the
code
being
established.
I
Now
that
being
the
case,
if
he
doesn't
have
any
kind
of
arrangement
with
the
church
and
he's
using
their
parking
facility,
that's
private
property,
that's
a
private
property
right
issue
and
then
those
the
church
would
have
to
you
know.
Let
him
know
that
you
know
you
can't
use.
You
can't
have
people
parking
in
there.
It's
not
public
lot,
they'd
have
to
post
the
law
and
that
type
of
thing,
that's,
that's,
not
a
code
enforcement
issue
per
se.
That's
a
private
property
issue
between
two
private
property
owners
be
like
a
dispute
resolution.
A
I
A
there
there
are,
there
are
nuisance
ordinances
that
you
that,
if
the
if
the
property
is
uncapped,
but
if
that
building
had
previous
prior
to
the
the
special
area
plan,
you
know
recognize
that
special
airplane
has
only
been
in
place
for
less
than
ten
years.
At
this
point,
if
that
condition
existed
prior
to
the
code,
if
that
means,
if
he
was
using
outdoor
storage-
and
he
was
having
trucks
there
prior
to
that,
we
can't
hold
him
to
today's
code
because
he
hasn't
made
any
changes.
He
hasn't
made
any
changes
of
the
use.
I
What
triggers
today's
code
is
new
development
like
what
mr.
zoots
is,
is
asking
for
or
redevelopment
of
a
property.
If
you're
not
physically
redeveloping
a
property,
then
we
have
some
limited
repercussions
that
you
know
if
there's
a
sanitation
issue
there
or
if
it's
a
code
enforcement
safety
issue.
If
the
vehicles
are
parking
on
the
street
or
on
sidewalks
or
in
dangerous
situations,
those
are
issues
that
we
could
address
through,
possibly
through
code
enforcement
or
enforcement
action,
but
things
like
outdoor
storage
being
allowed.
This
was
at
one
time
an
underutilized
industrial
district.
I
That's
why
light
industrial
is
one
of
the
uses
that
was
allowed
a
long
lemon
street
as
part
of
your
special
area
plan,
because
there
was
an
appreciation
by
the
previous
planning
staff
that
there
had
been
industrial
uses
here
in
the
past.
So
this
is
basically
a
light
industrial
building
which
is
consistent
with
the
zoning
district
and
that's
consistent
with
the
use
that
the
mr.
juice
is
requesting.
He
will
not
be
allowed
to
have
outdoor
storage
because
we
will
condition
it
as
such.
I
That's
just
one
of
those
things
that
generally
when
he
goes
to
the
site
planning
process.
You
get
conditions
on
your
resolution
for
your
site
plan
development,
one
of
the
ones
that
we
commonly
put
on
an
industrial
building
like
this,
because
we
do
not
want
what
you
see
on
other
properties
is
that
they
cannot
have
open
storage
where
it's
just
visible
to
the
street.
They
would
have
to
request
as
part
of
site
planning,
an
actual
storage
yard
he's
not
including
that
in
his
request,
so
it
will
just
be.
I
You
are
not
allowed
to
have
do
outdoor
storage
period
because
we
would
have
that
condition.
We
would
then
have
an
info
bility
to
enforce
that
condition
into
perpetuity,
but
if
there's
not
that
condition
in
a
resolution-
or
you
don't
have
a
little
bit
more
teeth
in
your
ordinance
since
becomes
very
difficult
to
enforce,
I.
A
So
just
because
a
property
is
in
the
district,
but
a
property
across
the
street,
isn't
that
doesn't
mean
we're
not
we're
still
have
to.
We
still
have
to
take
into
consideration
the
whole
block.
Even
a
part
of
the
block
is
not
in
the
historic
district
and
the
fact
that
there's
light
industrial
close
by
that's,
maybe
not
historic.
We
still
have
to
consider
that,
and
these
guidelines
are
pretty
clear
about
that.
In
my
opinion,
yeah.
A
I
B
F
This
is
application.
1774
is
53
West,
tarpon
Avenue.
This
is
a
contributing
structure
to
the
historic
district.
This
applicant
is
seeking
approval
to
law
for
construction
of
a
would
handicap
ramp
in
front
of
the
structure.
It
would
connect
to
the
existing
front
porch,
allowing
for
a
greater
ADA
accessibility
from
the
front
which
it
does
not
have
right
now.
F
And
looking
at
the
criteria,
the
first
one
looks
at
proposed
alterations.
The
ramp
will
be
constructed
of
pressure-treated
wood.
It's
gonna
be
similar
to
other
ramps
that
are
in
the
nearby
area
to
maintain
a
more
historic
district
in
to
look
at
the
design.
Guideline
staff
is
recommending
that
the
applicant
use
the
same
type
of
spindles
that
are
used
on
the
porch
itself
and
to
match
the
style
and
color
of
the
existing
front
porch
as
much
as
possible.
F
F
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
Secretary
of
the
interiors
guidelines
and
design
manual
and
the
ramp,
and
the
placement
of
it
meets
the
land
development
code
and
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
no
archaeological
sites
are
impacted.
So
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
several
conditions,
one
that
the
ramp
replicates
the
size
and
width
of
the
horizontal
and
vertical
lines
of
the
existing
porch.
That
is
to
be
painted
to
match
the
color
of
the
existing
porch
that
it's
be
constructed.
F
A
pressure,
treated
wood
and
any
change
in
the
material
would
require
further
HPB
approval
and
that
they
need
to
obtain
a
proper
building
permit
through
our
building
department
and
again,
property
owners
were
send
written
notification.
We
have
not
had
any
comments
to
the
request
and
then
in
your
packet,
our
photographs
of
the
existing
structure
and
a
survey.
That's
enclosed.
That
shows
you,
the
exact
location
of
the
proposed
ramp.
A
A
I
Was
an
attempt
to
make
it
to
again?
This
is
one
of
those
things
we're
trying
to
get
it
to
blend
with
what
we
have
there.
So
it's
one
of
those
things.
It's
staff
feels
that
you're
it's
relevant
for
you
to
ask
for
that
condition
in
this
particular
case,
because
they
actually
already
have
an
ramp.
It's
just
the
building
itself
inside
is
set
up
in
such
a
way
that
you
can't
access
the
front
half
of
the
building
from
the
rear
ramp.
I
A
A
F
H
I
Not
used
to
marathon
sessions
so
with
that
this
is
309
East,
Herpen
Avenue.
This
property
has
a
long
history.
With
this
board
they
actually
came
in
originally
as
a
discussion
item
with
some
drainage
issues
in
the
front
under
it's
a
completely
different
owner.
This
is
a
brand
new
owner
to
this
property.
This
owner
actually
cleared
all
of
the
violations
and
everything
that
had
come
from
the
previous
owner
and
then
it
inverted
Li
has
stumbled
upon
a
need
to
meet
and
to
have
the
same
issues.
So
this
is
like
a
revolving
door.
I
We
just
we
just
change
change
folks.
So
essentially,
what
has
happened
so
far
focuses
there's
quite
a
few
guys
that
weren't
here
originally
that's
why
I
gave
you
the
history
in
the
packet
of
you
know
how
this
kind
of
has
come
to
pass.
I
know:
David
is
pretty
much,
but
here
they've
been
with
this
since
the
beginning,
but
there
was
originally
a
discussion
item
where
a
previous
owner
had
come
in
and
asked
for
something
to
fix
a
drainage
issue
in
the
front
of
the
property.
I
My
assumption
my
or
my
based
on
the
eyewitness
before
I
got
here,
but
based
on
my
recollection
of
the
minutes,
they
approved
grass
creat.
The
idea
had
been
to
have
the
grass
creat,
where
the
grass
can
grow
through,
so
that
wall
the
drainage
issue
would
be
addressed.
The
surface
would
not
be
a
surface
where
the
people
could
drive
on.
There
was
a
driveway
opening
that
was
open,
and
that
was
done
by
the
state
when
the
state
actually
had
access
on
Tarpon
Avenue.
I
Since
that
time,
the
apple
of
the
previous
owner,
converted
it
to
a
parking
lot
put
out
parking
bumpers
and
that
type
of
thing
this
board
then
has
to
had
several
applications
come
before
it.
Trying
to
clear
out
that
issue.
The
issue
of
parking,
here's,
the
wrinkle
and
the
whole
parking
lot
that
this
board.
I
Really,
it's
not
an
issue
that
you
can
fix
for
the
applicant,
but
you
should
understand
from
his
owning
perspective,
why
this
is
an
issue
and
why
the
previous
Planning
Director
had
the
issue
that
she
had
with
this
parking
lot
to
begin
with,
the
special
area
plan
when
it
was
adopted,
allows
for
parking
in
the
second
and
third
tiers
of
a
property.
Okay.
So
that's
basically
the
first
20
feet
of
the
property
is
the
first
layer.
It's
broken
up
into
three
different
layers.
I
I
Technically
the
grass
group
was
actually
put
on
some
of
the
city's
property,
but
that,
aside,
that
first
20
feet
from
the
sidewalk
is
not
something
that
the
this
board
could
even
approve
for
any
type
of
parking
lot,
because
that
is
a
zoning
violation,
any
driving
on
that
within
that
area,
with
the
exception
of
a
driveway,
if
you
approved
two
driveway,
it's
a
little
different,
but
we're
talking
about
actually
a
parking
lot.
The
parking
lot
cannot
go
right
up
to
the
sidewalk.
I
In
this
case,
there
needs
to
be
a
20
foot
buffer,
essentially
between
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk
and
wherever
the
parking,
or
would
start
that
pushes
that
grass
Creek
area
that
you
can
actually
drive
on
farther
up
onto
the
property
actually
almost
adjacent
to
the
building.
That
complicates
some
things
for
the
applicant
and
they're
recurrently
requests,
because
they
cannot
ask
for
just
that
whole
open
area-
that's
already
been
grass
created
to
be
turned
into
a
parking
lot.
I
I
He
chose
to
come
here
first
to
find
out
this
board's
temperature
as
far
as
whether
or
not
they
want
to
allow
the
parking
in
the
front
they
want
to
allow
that
driveway
and
then
some
additional
parking
in
the
rear,
because
they
do
have
a
rear
portion
of
the
property.
There's
a
back
alley
that,
just
like
mr.
zoots
property
is
in
no
shape
to
be
used
for
commercial
traffic.
There
is
a
residential
unit
above
in
the
storefront.
That's
there
that
back
alleyway
would
probably
o
be
okay
for
that
resident.
I
I
If
we're
going
to
allow
any
type
of
parking
on
this
lot,
it's
got
to
be
safe
for
the
people
who
are
coming
on
and
off
the
roadway
and
for
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
used,
utilizing
anything
on
that
property.
So,
essentially,
what
the
applicants
asking
for
tonight
is
what
they
legally
can
have
under
the
zoning
code,
which
is
outside
the
second
layer
into
the
second
layer
of
the
property.
I
So
that's
the
first
layer
twenty
feet
in
there
asking
for
parking
spaces
in
the
orientation
that
they've
shown
you
in
the
site
plan
and
then
some
for
additional
parking
area
in
the
rear.
Now
they're
not
going
to
treat
the
parking
area
in
the
rear.
Nor
do
they
need
to
treat
the
parking
area
in
the
rear,
I'm
not
concerned
about
erosion
or
any
of
that
type
of
thing,
because
you're
gonna
have
a
limited
amount
of
traffic
in
that
rear
portion
of
the
property.
I
So
we
wouldn't
require
that
the
other
wrinkle
that
the
applicant
has
is.
This
is
the
same
use
as
it
always
was.
It
was
retail
on
the
bottom
and
a
residence
above
we
would
not
require
under
the
zoning
code
any
parking
we
would
not
require
any
of
them
to
add
any
parking
to
this
site
whatsoever.
It's
traditionally
been
the
same
use.
I
There's
no
change
of
use
as
I
was
speaking
kind
of
when
you
guys
had
asked
me
about
mister
zoots
property
that
you
know
it's
a
change
of
use
that
requires
the
the
requirements
to
kick
in
for
the
special
area
plan.
That's
why
we
can't
we
can't
go
after
the
other
buildings
in
the
district
that
aren't
necessary
following
the
zoning
code.
They
were
pre-existing
conditions.
This
is
another
pre-existing
condition.
This
use
has
not
changed
since
the
last
owner.
All
that's
changed
is
the
ownership.
It's
always
had
a
residence
above.
I
It's
always
had
a
retail
unit
in
there.
There's
no
change
on
the
floor
of
the
building
code,
no
change
out
of
the
zoning
codes,
so
the
parking
is
not
a
requirement
by
the
Zoning
Department.
Okay,
it's
well
something
that
the
applicant
is
requesting.
That's
why
you're
gonna
see
our
recommendation
is
denial
on
this.
Our
recommendation
is
denial
on
this
specifically
for
parking
in
the
front
yard,
because
we
can't
approve,
based
on
your
design
guidelines
and
our
zoning
code,
to
allow
that
complete
grassed
area.
I
Now
I
have
less
of
less
of
heartburn,
based
on
the
what
they've
provided
recently
for
for
you
for
a
site
plan
here,
but
it's
still
not
ideal,
because
the
your
design
guidelines
do
not
support
any
parking
in
the
front.
I
just
I,
just
don't
can't
reconcile
the
parking
in
the
front
and
the
driveway
in
the
front
with
a
zoning
code
and
a
design
guidelines
that
say
that
things
should
be
coming
for
the
rear.
But
I
can't
professionally
tell
you
that
that
access
in
the
rear
is
safe.
It's
not.
I
Safety
is
not
one
of
those
things
that
you
look
at,
but
based
on
the
history
that
we
have
here.
Staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
conversion
of
the
grass
Creek
to
a
parking
area.
However,
I
do
think
that
you
do
need
to
give
them.
The
driveway
I
would
reckon
we'll
enjoy
day
if
the
driveway.
It
was
something
that
this
board
is
willing
to
approve,
and
if
you
want
to
provide
them,
you
know
parking
somewhere
else
on
the
site.
We
can
talk
about
that
as
an
option,
but
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
request.
I
E
L
So
we're
basically
asking
y'all
for
some
consideration
here
to
let
us
utilize
that
property
that
front
portion
of
the
property
that
we
are
allowed
or
the
O
will
allow
us
to
get.
You
know
some
parking
in
there
and,
of
course,
to
utilize
that
cut
on
the
street
to
get
a
driveway
in
from
the
front.
The
back
is
virtually
impossible.
It's
very
narrow,
there's
a
telephone
pole
outside
the
property
line
in
the
alley,
very
tough
for
a
pickup
truck
to
squeeze
through
there
or
even
a
car.
It's
a
tight
squeeze.
L
C
I
I
This
other
area
is
the
grass
pre
area.
This
would
be
where
their
driveway
is
here,
this
grass
free
area
they
could
potentially
under
the
zoning
code.
Now
that's
the
zoning
code,
okay,
they
could
potentially
legally
park
in
that
area,
provided
that
they're
given
permission
to
do
so.
The
only
permission
that's
really
required
here.
Is
this
board?
I
Okay,
the
this
is
not
a
redevelopment
project
where
it's
got
to
go
to
another
big
board
and
that
type
of
thing
that
that's
not
how
this
works
in
this
case,
because
you're
in
the
special
area
plan
they're
asking
to
add
that
parking
lot
and
your
approval,
if
should
you
give
it
is
the
approval
that
they
would
get?
It's
not
gonna
go
to
another
board
for
approval.
I
This
is
the
board
that
would
that
would
approve
that
that
design
and
then
what
they've
shown
here
in
the
back
is
kind
of
the
movements
that
you
would
see
that
they
would
allow.
You
know
people
to
park
back
here
in
the
rear
if
they
want
there's
kind
of
this
weird
covered
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
shed
or
what
area
in
the
back
there
that's
kind
of
iffy,
but
there
is
a
there
actually
isn't
opening
into
the
alleyways.
I
So
you
could
go
to
the
alleyway
if
you
chose
to
or
you
could
turn
around
and
come
back
out,
that
mean
thing.
We
would
ask
that
they
put
some
signage,
that
maybe
you
know
employees
only
or
something
going
out
the
back
just
because
we
don't
want
liability
for
people
going
back
there,
but
that's
pretty
much.
What
they're
asking
for
here
is
that
a
little
bit
clearer.
It's.
C
I
Spots,
there's
basically
two
parking
spaces.
Everything
else
that
you
see
here
would
be
circulation
area.
That's
another
thing:
we've
worked
with
the
applicant
on
they're,
really
limited
Bay.
By
going
just
in
this
front
area
and
up
one
side,
they're
very
limited,
you
can
physically
drive
probably
around
around,
but
again
that's
not
going
to
get
them
anything
more
they're
gonna
end
up
with
two
parking
spaces
in
the
front
at
the
maximum
is
what
they're
gonna
get.
I
They
would
be
allowed
to
use
that
front
area
that
they're
kind
of
cordon
off
is
parking
in
rather
than
parking.
If
they
wanted
to
do
like
a
poop
out
like
patio
furniture
or
something
like
that
they
could,
they
can
use
that
area.
They
just
can't
drive
on
it.
I
mean
that's.
The
limitation
is
driving
on
it.
Not
that
there's
been
a
prohibition
on
them
using
it
completely.
There's
other
uses
that
they
can.
They
can
put
out
the
furniture
and
that
type
of
thing
keys
accuse
done
that
they
put
out
some
furniture
and
they're
frontier.
I
You
can
do
that.
Don't
need
approval
for
that,
but
it's
really
just
the
parking
area
that
they
need
to
either
legitimize
who
this
board
needs
to
just
tell
them.
Yes,
we
agree.
Then
it's
okay,
you
know
the
zoning
code
you're
justified
in
doing
that
or
no.
We
don't
agree
that
it's
okay
and
I
think
this
is
a
difficult
I.
A
I
Bumpers
wouldn't
move;
essentially
they
would
move
into
this
orientation
that
you're,
seeing
on
the
site
plan
where
there's
two
parking
spaces
allowed
here
on
the
side.
Oh,
that's
where
the
parking
would
have
to
be.
They
would
then
back
into
this
area
where
they
can
turn
around
they'd
either
go
straight
out
or
they
go
up
in
the
back
I.
You
know,
depending
upon
the
they
didn't,
really
show
spaces
in
the
back,
because
they're
not
really
trying
to
designate
a
parking
lot.
I
There
they're
just
trying
to
get
a
couple
of
parking
spaces,
but
they
want
to
be
able
to
allow
for
overflow
parking.
Should
they
need
it
and
again,
there's
a
resident
who
lives
in
the
unit
or
will
be
living
in
the
upstairs.
So
we
need
to
accommodate
them
as
well.
So
there
would
be
an
ample
parking
for
that
person.
One
car
to
car
and.
I
I
Barricade
was
to
keep
everybody
and
keep
them
legal,
because
this
is
not
a
parking
lot
until
you
see
it,
and
it's
been
an
extended.
I
will
admit
it.
They've
gone
two
months,
they've
been
ready
for
two
months,
this
project,
but
with
Irma,
and
you
know,
with
other
things
that
we've
had
happen.
You
both
your
meetings,
got
cancelled.
I
So
as
a
result,
they've
waited
so
they
have
patiently
waited
and
they
have
provided
that
barricade
and
I'm
very
grateful
to
the
applicant
for
doing
that,
because
that
actually
kept
them
from
violating
the
zoning
code,
because
people
will
in
a
verily
go
in
there
without
knowing
so
they'd
put
up
that
barricade
to
stop
that
from
happening.
The
only
traffic
that
they've
had
is
you
know
when
the
shop
owner
did
move
in
there.
They
needed
to.
A
A
Area
and
people
are
notified
when
they're
purchasing
a
property
and
I
still
think
that
should
happen.
You
know
it
creates,
maybe
an
extra
phone
call
or
something
to
cross-reference
in
that
being
said,
did
the
this
property
transfer
hands
with
complete
knowledge
that
this
was
a
parking
lot
not
supposed
to
be
a
parking
lot
will
never
be
allowed
to
be
a
parking
lot
or
were
they
oblivious
to
all
of
that
when
they
purchased
this
property
I.
I
Am
not
sure
who
actually
cleared
the
zoning
violations
that
were
on
here,
but
this
had
a
pretty
significant
zoning
code
enforcement
lien
on
it.
So
as
a
result
of
that,
they
were
well
aware
of
the
fact
that
and
I
don't
know
if
this
particular
owner
was
but
the
the
agent
who
cleared
those
was
well
aware
of
the
fact
that
that
was
that
way.
If
people
don't
come
to
my
office,
there
is
no
way
for
me
to
know
what
properties
whether
they're
in
the
store
district,
are
not
are
transferring
hands.
L
Aware
that
there
were
issues
with
liens
and
problems
with
the
city,
we
were
not
aware
of
the
fact
of
this
parking
situation.
Okay,
we
knew
there
were
liens.
We
knew
there
were
problems
with
the
property,
specifically
what
they
were.
We
did
not
know
and
we're
not
aware
of
this
problem.
Until
unfortunately,
we
had
a
tenant
move
into
the
building
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
like
you
can't
park
in
the
front
of
the
building.
We
thought
you
could
park
in
the
front.
One
of
the
ladies
mentioned
those
three
parking.
L
We
thought
you
could
park
there.
The
problem
arises
which
to
me
is
a
little
only
offend
anyone's
a
little
silly
that
we
can't
even
back
on
to
that
20
foot
area
not
park
there.
We
can't
even
drive
over
it,
so
we
were
under
the
understanding
that
the
three
spaces
in
the
front
were
allowed,
but
you
could
not
park
in
that
area
that
we
now
have
kind
of
designated
with
the
curbs
around
it
to
keep
traffic
off
of.
D
I
D
I
H
I
D
A
I
I
Can't
support
this
because
your
design
guidelines
don't
support
this
wall.
It's
technically
allowed
under
your
zoning
code.
That's
not
the
controlling
document
here,
the
controlling
documents,
really
your
design
guidelines-
and
this
has
never
been
something
that
this
board
has
been
interested
in.
Approving
that's
why
your
staffs
recommendation
is
what
it
is.
What
I'm
telling
you
is?
It
is
not
a
safe
situation
to
have
commercial
traffic
going
in
through
the
rear
of
this
property,
so
at
the
very
least,
I'm
willing
to
modify
to
give
driveway.
Now,
if
you
choose
to,
you,
know,
give
them
additional
parking.
I
A
The
watching
the
the
Commissioner
meetings
and
the
handling
of
denials
upon
appeal,
it's
been
publicly
stated
during
Commission
meetings
that
they
wished
that
this
board
had
worked
for
some
sort
of
compromise,
because
we've
held
to
the
letter
of
our
guidelines.
So
with
that
being
said,
I'm
comfortable
surprised
with.
If
we
can
work
toward
some
sort
of
compromise
to
help
this
applicant.
The
applicant
is
obviously
victim
of
negligence
of
his
representation
and
the
real
estate
transaction,
as
well
as
fraud
by
the
seller
of
the
property
most
likely
for
not
disclosing.
A
So
with
that
being
said,
I
think
it
would
be
in
the
city's
best
interest
from
my
opinion,
to
try
and
work,
and
if
this
is
a
reasonable
solution
to
allow
for
those
two
spots,
while
maintaining
that
what
normally
would
be
green
space
but
I
doubt
removing
turf
block
and
gravel
and
all
that
would
be
financially
not
feasible.
I.
I
Would
prefer
them
to
be
able
to
utilize
that
area
just
in
case?
Something
else
goes
in
here
down
the
road,
because
I
consider
that
as
seating
area
for
a
small,
you
know
ice-cream
place
or
something
going
here
that
could
fit
on
that
property.
So
I
really
don't
want
them
to
have
to
rip
up
that
because
they
may
want
to
use
that
surface
in
the
future.
For
that
matter,
the
the
tenant
that's
there
may
want
to
put
seating
out.
I
So
that
being
the
case,
I'd
like
to
preserve
that,
for
them,
staff
is
not
averse
to
this
I'm
willing
to
work
on
a
compromise
with
this
board.
If
this
is
something
that
you're
willing
to
recommend
approval,
staff
can
certainly
change
their
recommendation
and
go
with
that
recommendation
based
on
this
orientation,
because
we
know
that
it
doesn't
violate
the
zoning
code.
My
concern
from
the
get-go
is
the
parking
lot
up
to.
This
point
has
completely
violated
the
zoning
code
and
there's
no
way
this
board
can
approve
that
because
you're
in
violation.
I
So
this
is
something
that
staff
could
approve
but
based
on
the
history,
I
can't
really
come
back
and
say:
oh
yeah.
Well,
we
modified
it
now,
it's
okay,
that's
really
not
the
case.
It
really
doesn't
go
against
your
your
design
manual.
However,
I,
don't
know
how
better
to
address
this
property.
There's
really
not
a
better
way
of
doing
this,
because,
if
you're
dealing
with
a
50
foot
wide
property
on
a
rear
alley,
there
is
no
other
property
around
here
that
they
can
utilize
to
try
to
get
through
to
do
a
shared
driveway.
I
There
isn't
a
really
good
other
option
for
them.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
this
is
probably
one
of
the
better
options
that
they
have,
but
I
really
can't
come
in
here
and
tell
you
all
of
a
sudden,
oh
yeah,
it's
fine,
because
it's
really
not
it
doesn't
it
really
doesn't
meet
your
guidelines.
But
again
your
design
guidelines
are
that
design
guidelines
and
they're
going
to
be
properties
like
this
one.
That
are
an
issue.
So
if
this
is
something
that
those
two
parking
spaces
you
find
are
palatable,
you
find
that
that
driveway
is
okay.
I
If
you're,
alright,
with
that
surface
I
mean
I,
would
recommend
we
stay
with
that
service
because
it
it
becomes
very
easy
to
deal
with
be
from
a
water
management
perspective
because
they're
not
going
to
go,
get
permits
and
something
if
you
start
paving
things
for
permits
are
required.
So
for
me,
I
would
have
no
problem
as
staff
recommending
approval
of
this
application
as
it
stands.
If
this
board
is
amenable
but
I'm
not
going
to
make
that
that
leap
without
this
board
agreeing
to
that,
but
that's
something
that
staff
would
be
glad
to
agree
to
do.
I
Well,
they'll
delineate
those
spaces
with
the
parking
bumpers,
so
they'll
take
similar
to
the
parking
bumpers
that
are
there.
They'll
move
those
parking
bumpers
up
and
then
they
want
to
put
a
either
a
solid,
curb
or
use
other
parking
bumpers
to
kind
of
delineate.
This
area
from
the
parking
area
yeah
and-
and
that
would
be
ideal
because
if
you
did
want
to
use
it
for
seating
or
something,
then
it's
separated
from
the
parking
lot.
People
aren't
driving
into
tables
and
chairs.
My.
I
They're
they're
browning
on
a
curb,
more
than
likely
it'll,
probably
be
the
parking
bumpers,
but
I'm
gonna.
Leave
that
a
little
up
to
the
applicant
a
little
bit
to
tell
me
what
they
want
to
do
because
adding
a
solid
surface
there.
If
they
do
a
curbing,
they
could
use
a
variety
of
different
things.
They
might
even
want
to
use
a
fence
to
just
kind
of
fence
it
off.
That
might
be
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
attractive.
A
K
K
K
The
delay
I
just
want
to
make
a
statement.
The
delay
in
this
board
hearing
I,
know
extenuating
circumstances.
You
know
has
created
a
financial
hardship
in
a
in
a
starting
up
business
and
one
of
the
major
things
when
I
have
people
coming
in
to
my
store.
They
do
ask
me
what
the
situation
about
the
parking
is
with
that
barricade
up
there
and
I've
also
heard
comments
from
the
public
like
during
one
walk
that
the
reason
why
they
hadn't
stopped
by
was
this.
K
The
other
issue
I'm,
having
with
no
parking
in
the
front
is,
is
that
I
have
the
UPS
truck
that
needs
to
make
deliveries
and
pick
up
deliveries.
I
run
an
internet
business
out
of
the
back
in
my
office.
Space
and
UPS
is
having
to
park
over
by
the
bank
because
they
can't
use
the
back
alleyway.
They
can't
come
in
the
front
they
can't
park
on
East,
tarpon
Avenue,
so
there's
nowhere
for
them
to
part
to
come
and
pick
up
packages
or
to
deliver
packages
effectively.
K
A
N
A
L
L
It's
our
intention
to
paint
them
and
highlight
them
paint
them.
You
know
safety,
yellow
or
something
so
that
they
stand
out,
but
the
main
thing
is
obviously
to
keep
the
cars
from
driving
over
that
that
select
area
or
whatever
you
call
that
that
20-foot
area
there
to
keep
them
off
of
that,
because
we're
not
supposed
to
drive
on
it
I
mean
we're.
Not
we
thought
about
a
fence,
but
it's
just
gonna.
L
A
O
I
O
I
Would
have
to
still
come
back
to
this
board
that
how
it
works
is
they
would
first
have
to
get
approval
to
go
into
that
area
on
that
20-foot
area.
That's
under
the
zoning
code,
if
the
Board
of
Adjustment
granted
that
they
would
then
have
to
come
back
to
this
board,
because
they're
significantly
modifying
the
parking
lot
at
that
at
that
point
and
receipt
approval
of
this
board.
I
So
if
that's
something
that
the
applicants
interested
in
doing
I
wouldn't
recommend
that
we
have
that
discussion
tonight,
because
I
would
recommend
that
this
board
defer
this
application
so
that
he
can
seek
a
variance
if
he
wants
to
go
that
route.
The
variance
is
something
that
has
to
come
first
in
this
case,
because
you
are
the
final
board
who
approves
the
parking
lot
because
you're
in
the
historic
district
and
it's
a
new
parking
area
or
modification
to
an
existing
parking
area.
If
you
were
to
grant
it
tonight,
so
that's
the
reason
why
there's
that
requirement?
I
O
I've
had
three
businesses
on
Tarpon
Avenue
from
way
down
by
the
Bayou
to
where
I'm
at
now
parking
has
always
been
difficult
with
tarpon
springs.
As
you
know,
you
know
we
got
new
business
trying
to
come
in
she's
a
new
business
trying
to
come
in
we're
trying
to
accommodate
new
businesses
and
tarpon
we're
building
a
parking
lot
behind
us.
O
You
know
to
add
on
to
the
tarpon
springs,
we're
trying
to
bring
businesses
in
and
then,
when
you
bring
somebody,
and
then
you
say:
oh
I'm,
sorry,
you
can't
have
ups
pulling
there
and
park
or
backer
Alex
just
says.
If
the
defense
they're
UPS
truck
to
try
to
back
in
and
back
out,
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
them
go
down
how
many
doors
down
and
you
have
a
driveway
with
a
circle.
Driveway
a
real
estate
office.
There
parking
there
four
or
five
six
cars.
Sometimes
in
the
front,
I
don't
mean
that's.
O
What's
the
difference
between
that?
You
know
all
day
long
and
it's
just
I
just
see
it
being
difficult
to
have
people
trying
to
get
a
new
business
to
say:
hey,
you
know,
I'm,
you
know
allowed
to
do
parking
in
your
business
to
bring
in
new
business
to
bring
in
tax
money
to
help
Tarpon
grow
and
I
just
I'm.
So
much
love.
This
girl
I
just
met
her
recently
and
she's.
Trying
to
build
this
business
up
and
I
see
the
parking
it
doesn't.
Look.
Bad
I
mean
it
doesn't.
O
You
know
it's
done
nicely
she's
group
to
make
the
grounds
look
beautiful
there,
she's,
fixed
the
place
up
and
I.
Just
think
it's
just
it's
devoid
should
approve
it.
You
know
100
percent,
because
we
like
I,
said
we
need
new
businesses
and
tarp
and
we
need
this
place
to
grow.
We
need
new
tax
revenue
and
if
you
look
back
how
many
businesses
have
been
there
because
of
the
parking
you
know,
I
can't
I
can't
be
there
couple
years
because
there's
no
business,
nobody
can
park
here.
A
A
A
separation,
however,
the
ground
has
been
used
for
residential.
Then
we
had
the
flooding
issue
and
so
that
we
had
the
hardship
issue
with
the
flooding
issue,
approved
the
turf
block,
with
the
approval
that
it
would
not
be
a
parking
lot.
The
turf
block
went
in
and
it
was
rented
out
of
this
commercial.
So
this
is
not
a
this
is
not
anybody
being
hard
or
anything?
A
This
is
imagining
us
trying
to
see
tarpon
grow
at
the
same
time,
not
wanting
to
see
every
one
of
these
homes
down
tarpon
Avenue
turn
into
this
with
a
turf
block
parking
lot
in
the
front
and
then
completely
destroyed
the
facade
in
the
front
of
Tarpon
Avenue.
That's
my
struggle
with
the
proving.
How
do
we
come
to
compromise
the
hardship
of
this
new
owner
that
obviously
didn't
understand
what
was
happening
when
the
purchase
was
made,
a
business?
A
That's
trying
to
get
started
up,
and
so
that's
the
board
feels
we
can
hear
a
motion
or
a
conversation.
We
can
just
discuss
this
at
any
time.
I
can't
make
a
motion
because
I'm
the
chair,
but
I
thought
this
was
a
great
compromise
of
allowing
the
two
spaces
that
you
came
up
with
there
to
allow
some
spaces
there.
I
personally,
don't
like
the
bumpers,
I,
think
it
looks
junky
and
it
just
doesn't
look
good
and
that
would
not
be
something.
I
would
think.
A
H
C
A
L
Do
these
things
can
get
stretched
out
and
she
needs
she
needs
some
help
now
and,
as
you
see
that
we're
talking
about
a
couple
of
parking
spaces,
it's
not
like
it's
gonna
turn
into
a
parking
lot.
One
of
the
other
reasons
before
we
had
a
barrier
up
like
a
chain
across
there,
because
a
lot
of
the
other
places
the
bar
on
the
corner
and
all
we're
using
that
as
a
parking
place
in
the
evenings.
When
we
have
the
street
parties,
when
have
you
people
would
park
in
there,
I
mean
you
know
it's
a
natural
plate.
L
It
looks
like
a
parking
lot.
People
pull
in
and
park.
You
know,
but
we
really
need
to
try
and
do
something
to
help
her
tonight.
I
mean
I'm,
asking
you
all
so
that
we
can
get
her
some
relief
and
then
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
about
the
variance
I
mean
I.
Don't
want
to
do
anything.
That's
gonna
affect
her
anymore,
adversely
than
she's
already
being
affected,
and
it.
L
L
It's
a
possibility
that
we
can
do
something
that
would
be
acceptable
to
the
city
acceptable
to
everyone
to
make
it
look
aesthetically
pleasing
in
any
way
to
maybe
add
two
more
spaces
or
something
I
don't
know,
but
I
would,
if
I
had
that
option
available
to
us
I
wouldn't
mind
you
know
looking
into
it,
but
there
again,
I
wouldn't
want
to.
You
know,
hold
up
the
decision
tonight
because
of
considering
that
and.
C
L
I
N
I
Probably
can
get
three
without
too
much
of
a
problem
for
might
be
tight
because
of
the
turning
radius
is
required
for
a
car,
but
again
that's
going
to
require
them
to
get
a
variance
for
that
twenty
foot
area.
They
certainly
nothing
that
you
do
tonight
precludes
them
from
coming
back
and
asking
for
a
variance.
I
I
would
just
bring
them
back
before
this
board
when
they're
ready
to
modify
the
parking
lot,
so
they
go
to
boa
or
they
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
whatever
happens
tonight,
and
then
they
can
go
to
boa,
and
then
they
can
come
back
to
this
board
and
say:
okay,
I
want
to
add
another
parking.
Space
or
I
want
to
change
the
orientation
or
now
I
want
to
add
different
in
the
parking
lot.
I
L
May
I
make
a
comment
to
what
the
gentleman
there
said
about
the
curb
we
can
lay
the
the
parking
bumpers.
Let's
call
them,
we
can
lay
them
tight
one
against
another,
to
look
like
a
curb,
as
opposed
to
going
in
having
to
form
and
pour
concrete
to
put
an
actual
curb
in
there,
and
so
that
way
I
mean
it
allows
for
its
the
purpose.
Oh
I
think
what
you're
looking
for
and
it
won't
be
any
more
aesthetically
unappealing.
L
E
E
D
C
I
Well,
so
we're
approving
the
driveway
opening
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
we're
removing
the
driveway
opening
in
the
driveway
itself,
the
two
parking
spaces
in
the
circulation
area
for
those
parking
spaces
and
the
ability
for
the
applicant
to
drive
to
the
rear
of
the
property
allowing
cars
to
park
back
there.
That's
my
understanding.
M
I
So,
just
her
to
restate
your
motion,
we
are
recommending
approval
of
the
driveway.
It's
in
the
opening
the
two
parking
spaces
in
the
circulation
area.
We
are
going
to
approve
the
rear
port
of
the
rear,
drive
aisle
and
the
rear
area
for
the
verbal
rear
parking
and
we're
going
to
require
a
solid
curb
to
delineate
the
area
there.
Where
there's
to
be
no
parking,
correct.
N
D
F
A
Do
we
have
anybody
here
from
the
public
that
has
interest
in
the
Craig
Park
shade
structure?
Do
we
have
anybody
here
with
interest
in
zerolemon
street
construction
of
new
commercial
or
no
I'm,
sorry
of
the
shadow?
No
sorry
Shattuck
Street
302!
Okay!
Can
we
move
this
one
up
and
do
the
other
one
so
that
these
folks
can
that
be?
Okay,.
F
And
302
Shattuck
Street
is
a
non-contributing
structure,
and
this
applicant
is
requesting
approval
of
this
board
to
install
a
new
garage.
They
have
an
existing
carport
structure
that
is
not
in
good
shape.
The
garage
would
replace
the
carport
and
it
would
be
placed
on
the
existing
concrete.
So
it's
not
expanding
any
of
the
area
that
they
currently
have
again.
It's
a
non-contributing
structure.
There
also
isn't
anything
in
the
florida
master
site
file
that
deletes
any
additional
structure.
F
F
The
shape
of
the
roof
is
a
hip
roof,
so
it's
similar
to
other
types
of
garages.
The
size
and
mass
meets
the
design
requirements.
The
code
says
that
the
accessory
structure
should
be
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure.
The
home
is
a
thousand
eleven
hundred
square
feet
and
the
new
structure
would
be
about
three
hundred
square
feet.
F
The
placement
meets
the
city's
land
development
code
and
the
goals
and
objectives
and
policies
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
but
meets
all
the
setbacks
that
are
part
of
the
site
plan,
approval
for
planning
and
zoning,
and
it
does
not
impact
any
architectural
sites.
So
staff
recommends
approval
with
the
recommendation
that
a
building
permit
is
required
for
this
and
that
they
seek
the
building
proper
permitting
through
the
building
department
in
the
application.
I've
also
included
and
I
went
out
to
the
to
the
to
a
home,
met
with
the
property
owner
and
took
several
pictures
for
you.
F
The
applicant
also
included.
Some
photos
includes
where
it
is
in
the
rear
of
the
property.
You
can
see
a
lot
of
beautification
that
that
she's
made
to
the
rear
yard.
There's
a
lot
of
outdoor
storage
there
that
doesn't
look
real
good.
Having
a
garage,
that'll
she'll
be
able
to
place
all
those
items
inside
of
the
garage
and
I've
shown
you
some
other
outbuildings
that
are
in
the
alley
near
her
home.
There's
a
carport
there
that
doesn't
look
real
good,
there's
another
metal
structure
right
next
door
and
another
structure
there.
F
P
No
it's
door.
Meyer
and
I
live
at
302,
Shattuck,
Street
and
I.
Tell
you
I
love
my
little
old
house.
That's
my
dream!
House
I've
always
wanted
a
little
old
house.
My
son
can
tell
you
that
so
he
found
a
little
old
and
I
moved
in
I
love,
gardening,
I
love,
a
beautiful
yard
and
I
love
a
little
piece
of
a
little
place
where
I
can
just
be
peaceful
and
that's
what
my
yard
is
to
me
and
she's
right.
P
All
the
lawn
mowers
and
garden
tools
are
kind
of
just
exposed
to
whatever
and
anybody
I
don't
have
any
security
back
there
and
I
really
do
need
the
security
in
the
backyard
I
checked
in
to
get
in
a
security
gate
and
turns
out
the
security
gate
is
almost
a
thousand
dollars
more
than
the
ground.
So
you
know
when
it's
connected
to
a
fence,
so
yeah
I
really
really
could
use
this
wonderful
little
garage
and
believe
me,
when
I
get
done
with
it's
gonna,
be
beautiful,
I
promise,
that's
all
I
really
have
to
say.
A
O
Hello
dancer,
Kaiser,
I'm,
muscled,
230,
Shattuck,
Street
I
was
born
in
that
house
66
years
ago
right
next
door.
This
is
gay,
live
there
and
there
was
a
garage
there
when
I
grew
up
and
went
next
to
a
big
mulberry
tree
that
we
used
to
get
purple
all
over
us.
I
have
no
problems
with
her
building
that
she
has
made
a
beautiful
yard,
as
you
probably
have
seen,
pictures
of
and
great
neighbor
to
have,
and
we
think
that
garage
will
just
add
to
the
area.
So
all
in
favor
thank.
E
N
F
Again,
as
you
know,
the
city
has
a
lot
of
activities
and
events
that
utilize
craig
park
in
that
van
shell
and
for
most
of
the
year
it's
brutally
hot
and
there's
no
shade
there
and
what
we
find
are
people.
Nobody
uses
that
interior
area,
they
go
underneath
the
trees
and
you
set
tables
up
there
and
nobody
uses
them.
So
it's
it's.
It's
a
little
bit
of
a
waste
of
a
space
there.
F
So
in
talking
with
the
city
staff,
we'd
like
to
put
up
a
shade
structure,
there
would
be
a
temporary
structure,
so
it
could
come
down
if
there
are
times
of
the
year.
That
are
nice
and
you
want
to
have
the
Sun
in
the
wintertime.
But
for
those
really
hot
months
that
you
could
have
some
shade
to
be
able
to
better
utilize.
That
area.
F
We
did
have
a
technical
review
committee
that
we
took
this
through,
and
the
comment
only
comments
made.
Planning
and
Zoning
obviously
required
that
this
receive
approval
by
this
board
and
that
the
structure
be
temporary
in
nature
again,
so
that
it
could
be
removed
if
necessary,
and
that
the
shade
material,
the
fire
department
requires
it
to
be
flame-retardant.
H
F
Again,
it
would
be
placed
over
the
existing
concrete,
that's
in
front
of
the
bandshell.
It
wouldn't
take
up
the
entire
concrete
area,
but
the
majority
of
it
and
we've
included
in
here
some
pictures
that
show
you
essentially
what
it
would
look
like
and
then
some
other
pictures
that
show
you
the
the
fact
that
there
isn't
any
shade
existing.
F
A
D
C
H
F
C
I
You've
got
the
poles
and
the
mounting,
and
the
mounting
brackets
are,
would
be
a
more
permanent
fixture
because
you'd
have
to
pull
the
concrete
concrete
it
up,
because
they're
set
in
concrete
in
order
to
remove
them,
but
the
sails
themselves.
I
would
consider
this
overall
to
be
a
temporary
structure
because
you
can
remove.
The
poles
is
just
a
little
bit
more
work
to
do
that,
but
the
poles
aren't
going
to
coming
down
when
they're
storms,
everything
they're
gonna,
be
there,
regardless
of
if
the
sails
are
on
or
not,
and.
A
This
is
for
because,
on
the
occasional
use
of
the
area
for
festivals
and
things,
rather
than
a
continued
use
of
the
playground
that
gets
used
every
day,
all
right
that
we
are
gonna
do
something
that's
occasionally
used
versus
doing
something.
That's
continually
used
like
the
playground,
correct
I
would.
I
I
mean
what
what
what
the
city
the
city
folks
that
are
working
on
this
project
have
relayed
to
us
is
really
what
happens
there?
Is
everybody
sits
under
the
trees
around
it
and
there's
this
big
open
space
in
the
middle
and
everybody
crowds
on
the
sides,
and
the
idea
is
to
provide
some
type
of
relief
via
shade,
so
that
more
folks
will
sit
and
then
not
ever
reason
for
the
tree,
and
now
that
the
trees
have
been
slightly
modified
as
a
result
of
there
may
be
less
shade
than
there
once
was
the.
A
Our
guidelines
really
don't
speak
to
shade
structures,
so
that
may
be
something
we
want
to
add
to
our
list
of
things
that
we
discuss.
However,
it
does
talk
about
accessory
structures
which,
being
that
this
is
not
really
easily
removed.
I'd
have
a
hard
time,
not
considering
an
accessory
structure
and
the
rendering
that
you're
providing
is
a
very
modern
depiction
of
something
for
shade
which
the
early
1900
homes
that
are
built
across
the
street
as
well
as
used
stating
in
the
back
of
material
when
this
building
was
built,
which
is
in
late
1800
1890.
H
A
This
structure
looks
very
modern
and
our
guidelines
state
the
structures
that
are
permitted
to
be
located
along
the
public
right
away
or
within
the
public
view,
shall
be
designed.
I
mean
shall
be
designed
in
the
same
architectural
style
as
the
principal
building
and
I'm
familiar
that
in
our
back
and
our
guidelines.
It
also
says
there
are
structures,
a
new
structure
should
not
try
to
emulate
the
original
structure.
A
I
I
A
N
A
I
C
C
A
Recommend
a
denial
based
on
the
fact
of
our
guidelines
for
accessory
structure
state
that
it
shall
be
designed
in
the
same
architectural
style
as
a
principal
building,
and
even
if
this
is
not
an
accessory
structure,
it's
not
easily
removed
and
it's
very
modern
looking
and
it
does
not
fit
with
the
area
in
which
they're
putting
it.
Aesthetically.
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I
Cannot
we
we
have
no
control
over
whether
or
not
they
they
go
to
the
board
regardless?
We
just
want
to
let
you
guys
know
that,
but
we'll
definitely
provide
that
information.
It
will
help
if
it
goes
that
route
that
you
have
that
in
your
minutes,
because
we'll
include
that
now
your
minutes
might
not
be
approved,
but
lots
of
times
we'll
just
put
in
the
draft
minutes.
This
is
what
happens
so
that
they
know
what
you
talked
about.
I,
don't
have
any
direct
comments,
other
than
I
wanted
to
bring
our
new
city
planner
down
Michelle.
I
Q
Michelle,
Wagner
and
I
have
been
at
Tarpon
Springs
resident
since
2003
I
love
our
city
dearly
and
I
deeply
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
do
on
the
Historic
Preservation
Board
I
was
a
member
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
public
art
committee
right
up
until
I
got
hired
for
the
last
year,
so
I
also
understand
the
commitment
that
you're
making
for
our
city
and
that's
greatly
appreciated
by
me,
and
my
husband
and
all
my
friends
that
live
here
thanks.
Thank
you
welcome.
Thank
you.