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From YouTube: Heritage Preservation Board July 10, 2017
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This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
with
a
Heritage
Preservation
Board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
the
law.
That's
already
been
established
and
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
by
hearing
and
applied.
Those
findings
of
fact
previously
establish
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances.
In
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
grete
me
application
before
it.
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The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
of
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance
and
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
of
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
establishing
the
code
of
ordinance
and
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
against
the
applicant.
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Thank
You
Aaron
Lemmons
Economic,
Development
Manager.
Our
first
application
today
is
a
certificate
of
approval
number
17
59
for
201
Bay
Street,
its
architectural
style
is
craftsman.
The
applicant
are
James
and
Diana
Nicholas.
This
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
expanded
historic
district
and
what
the
applicant
is
requesting
today
is.
Essentially
they
want
to
restore
the
home
back
to
its
Craftsman
style.
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It
has
a
variety
of
different
types
of
windows,
doors
or
rotting,
they'd
like
to
put
replace
the
fabric
awnings
with
wooden
awnings,
and
they
would
like
to
put
a
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property
and,
as
you
see
what
the
property
is
you'll
better
understand
why
they
would
like
fence
there.
Currently,
the
the
house
has
39
windows,
they're,
all
of
varying
types
of
styles.
Some
may
be
the
original
ones.
They've
got
some
jalousie
windows
they've
been
replaced
over
time,
so
they
would
like
to
replace
those
to
bring
uniformity
of
elevation
with
a
Craftsman
style.
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Three
over
one
window,
the
two
doors
they
want
to
replace
one
is
the
front
door.
It's
currently
rotting
and
it
is
a
wooden
door
and
it
also
has
a
screen
door
over
it.
They
want
to
take
the
screen
door
off
and
replace
a
wooden
door
with
a
fiberglass
oak
door
in
the
basement
door,
which
also
happens
to
be
in
the
front
of
the
property.
As
you
see
in
the
pictures,
that
door
is
also
rotting
and
they're,
replacing
that
one
with
a
a
craftsman-style
three
panel
again
fiberglass
door.
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It
looks
like
wood,
the
two
fabric,
awnings
that
are
on
the
front
of
the
home
over
the
windows.
They
would
like
to
replace
those
they've
become
tattered
and
and
with
the
Sun
it's
hard
to
keep
those
up.
They
want
to
construct
a
wooden
awning
with
aluminum
shingles.
That
would
retain
the
structure
of
the
roof
and
follow
the
roof
lines
and
continue
with
the
ornamentation.
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That
is
on
the
roof
lines,
and
then
they
want
to
install
a
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property,
with
the
exception
of
the
rear,
which
already
has
a
white
vinyl
fence
fence
would
be
white
aluminum
fencing
that
you
know
looks
like
wrought
iron,
it's
aluminum
and
it's
white,
which
would
match
the
paint
of
the
home,
and
then
they
would
be
using
brick
foundation.
Brick
columns
to
kind
of
break
that
up
along
the
expanse
of
the
perimeter
and
those
brick
columns
would
match
the
brick.
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They
have
a
very
high
foundation
of
brick
on
their
on
their
home,
so
those
columns
would
match
the
brick
on
the
house,
and
you
see
some
of
the
same
types
of
fences
on
a
north
and
south
spring.
I've
got
some
pictures
in
there
of
the
fencing
that
that
you
can
see
in
the
adjacent
neighborhood
and
so
just
to
go
over
the
review
criteria.
Criteria.
One
talks
about
consistency
with
adjacent
structures,
staff
looked
at
it.
The
alterations
are
consistent.
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The
doors
and
windows
that
are
being
replaced
are
the
same
size
that
we're
currently
there
now
so
not
expanding
or
reducing
the
size,
eliminating
the
screen
door
and
the
fiberglass
three
panel
door.
If
you
look
at
the
design
guidelines
for
doors
and
entrance
features
and
says,
doors
are
usually
constructed
of
wood
with
surrounding
trim,
but
under
the
list
of
guidelines,
there's
no
reference
to
type
of
material.
So
using
a
fiberglass
oak
that
helps
to
helps
the
sustainability
of
the
door
would
be
acceptable
and
then
removing
the
outer
screen
door
also
complies
with
the
guidelines.
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Under
windows,
shutters
and
awnings,
it
talks
about
the
common
residential
types
are
double-hung
sash,
1,
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1,
2,
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2
or
multi-point
multi-pane
upper
with
a
single
bottom
sash,
and
these
are
all
multi-pane
/
single
3,
/
1.
The
guidelines
do
state
that
replacement
windows
can
be
either
wood,
anodized,
aluminum
or
vinyl
and
I
believe
in
this
case,
they're
using
vinyl
the
awnings
over
the
front
windows.
The
new
awnings
will
match
the
size
of
the
current
fabric,
awnings
that
are
there.
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The
guidelines
that
under
windows,
shutters
and
awnings
say
that
the
awnings
should
be
architectural
II,
appropriate
to
the
architectural
style
of
the
structures
and
with
the
wood
awnings
replicating
the
line
of
the
roof.
We
feel
that
that
would
be
more
architecture
in
line
with
the
style
of
the
home
than
the
fabric
structures
criteria.
2
talks
about
width
of
windows,
again
they're,
not
altering
the
size
of
any
of
the
windows
or
doors.
D
The
guidelines
do
state
that
the
use
of
different
window
types
on
the
same
structure
is
prohibited,
so
they're
replacing
all
of
those
varying
styles
with
a
like
style,
which
is
in
compliance
with
the
guidelines.
Criterias
3
talks
about
relationship
of
the
structure
to
the
open
space,
and
that's
where
we
looked
at
the
fencing.
The
fencing
is
going
to
have
to
comply
with
the
land
development
code
in
terms
of
setbacks
and
permitting,
but
the
use
of
the
white
matches
the
color
of
the
home.
The
use
of
the
brick
matches
the
foundation
of
the
home
itself.
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The
design
guidelines
talked
about
the
color
matching
of
the
body
or
trim
of
the
house.
It
also
talks
about
walls
or
fences
that
have
a
long
continuous
span,
which
they
do.
The
property
is
110
by
115
feet,
so
using
those
brick
columns
would
would
be
a
nice
visual
to
break
up
all
of
them.
The
white
fencing.
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Criteria
for
isn't
relevant
criteria,
5
talks
about
the
shape
of
the
building.
Before
and
after
the
renovations
again,
there's
uniformity
to
the
windows.
There's
no
change
in
the
size
of
the
windows
in
the
awnings
criteria,
6,
which
is
landscaping.
There's
no
landscaping
proposed
criteria,
7
talks
about
distinctive
architectural
features
and
there
aren't
any
distinctive
features
that
are
proposed
to
be
altered
and
in
fact
they
want
to
replicate
the
features
on
the
roof
lines
with
the
wood
awnings
at
their
building.
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Number
8
alterations
should
not
attempt
to
create
an
earlier
appearance.
They're,
not
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
bring
it
back
to
the
Craftsman
bungalow
that
it
is
and
change
a
lot
of
the
alterations
that
were
made
that
we're
not
appropriate
and
number
9
staff.
Fielded
renovations
meet
the
standards,
as
we've
described,
number
10,
a
project
shall
conform
to
the
other
requirements
for
the
code
which
is
compliant
and
then
no
no
archaeological
sites
will
be
impacted
by
this.
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There's
just
appears
to
be
a
lot
of
thought
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
that
you
did
that
and
explained
everything,
and
not
only
that
that
you're
really
looking
to
restore
the
home
to
its
historic
appearance,
which
I
think
is
so
beautiful
and
it's
a
facility
must
be
a
labor
of
love.
I.
Imagine
it's
a
big
undertaking,
but
it
looks
pretty
be
awesome.
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Just
for
the
record,
the
reason
I
asked
that
is
several
meetings.
Maybe
six
or
seven
months
ago
they
were
going
to
start
noticing
whenever
a
buyer,
for
a
property
within
the
city,
historic
district,
whenever
they
would
the
title
companies
would
contact
the
city
or
you
know,
search
that
they
would
be
sending
that
back
as
a
condition
so
that
a
buyer
knows
going
in
that
they're
buying
in
an
area,
and
so
it's
just
because
we've
had
people
come
before
us.
That
said,
they
never
knew.
Okay,.
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1763-
this
is
three
one
five
bath
Street
was
a
masonry
vernacular
house
applicant
is
very
Peebles.
I
will
say
that
they
are
not
here
yet
they're
driving
from
Key
West,
and
they
have
been
texting
me
and
emailing
me
seriously.
This
afternoon
they
had
scheduled
when
they
left.
They
should
have
arrived
here
by
4:00,
but
they
said
it's
been
pouring
rain.
There's
a
lot
of
traffic.
There's
been
a
lot
of
accidents,
so
they
were
thinking
they
would
get
here
by
7:00.
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The
applicant
is
seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
for
a
prefabricated
accessory
structure
to
be
placed
in
their
backyard
on
the
structure
is
240
square
feet.
It's
owned
by
20.
The
principal
structure
is
a
non
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district.
There
isn't
a
front
driveway.
The
property
is
served
by
a
rear
alley.
That
is
not
pave.
It's
fenced
on
all
sides
and
in
the
rear,
there's
an
opening
that
they
could
drive
a
car
in.
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So
four
criteria,
one
which
is
consistency
with
adjacent
structures
on
again
the
principal
structure,
is
not
being
being
touched,
but
the
accessory
start
and
half
peopIe
that
meets
the
requirements
of
the
land
development
code
for
the
zoning
district
on
accessory
structure
can
be
no
higher
than
20
feet.
So
if
there
are
any
other
structures
like
this,
it
would
have
to
meet
that
same
criteria.
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The
size
of
the
structure,
which
is
240
square
feet,
meets
the
land
development
code.
For
that
our
60
zoning
district,
the
maximum
allowed
size
for
a
detached
structure
is
300
square
feet.
So
it's
within
that
they're
placing
the
structure
as
you
can
see
in
the
backup
material.
The
setbacks
are
not
closer
than
5
feet
to
a
rear
lot
line
or
seven
and
a
half
from
a
side
lot
line,
they're,
placing
it
seven
and
a
half
feet
from
the
side,
lot
line
and
26
feet
from
the
rear.
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It's
in
the
rear
yard.
There
is
no
visibility
from
the
street
and
there's
some
limited
visibility
from
the
alley
criteria
for
talks
about
the
roof
structures.
That's
not
applicable
I
will
note
that
the
roof
on
this
accessory
structure
doesn't
meet
the
roof
of
the
principal
structure.
But
the
principal
structure
is
not
a
contributing
structure
and
the
detached
structure
isn't
seen
from
the
street,
so
staff
felt
it
didn't
have
any
negative
effect.
D
Number
five
is
the
shape
of
the
building
and
again
this
is
a
an
accessory
structure.
By
code,
the
accessory
structure
can
be
must
be
subordinate,
an
area
to
the
principal
structure.
The
home
itself
is
884
square
feet
and
the
proposed
detached
structure
is
240,
so
it
is
subordinate
to
the
the
main
home
number
six
landscaping.
There's
no
landscaping
proposed
here
number
seven,
distinctive
architectural
features.
There
is
anything,
any
distinctive
features
that
are
being
changed
or
replaced
number
eight
again
talks
about
alterations
that
shouldn't
be
beyond
their
time.
It's
not
applicable
here.
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They
recently
bought
this
home
as
well,
and
we
did
send
public
notification
to
property
owners
within
200
feet
and
have
not
received
any
comments
on
it,
so
that
the
photos
that
are
here
show
you
know
they
kind
of
detail.
The
first
one
shows
the
type
of
structure
it's
it's
prefab,
but
they're
having
it
custom-made.
So
that's
the
actually.
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As
they
record
it,
I'm
film
residents
can't
break
down
the
street
at
two
to
seven
baths.
I
met
with
you
guys
last
year
with
my
application,
it's
going
swimmingly.
So
thank
you
for
everything
that
you
did
for
me.
I
guess,
I
just
had
a
couple
quick
questions.
One
of
them
was:
was
this
structure
contributing?
But
you
already
said
it
was
not,
and
I
did
have
a
question
about.
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To
my
knowledge,
those
mapping
issues
have
not
been
corrected,
so
there
were
issues
and
it
can
be
found
in
our
minutes
that
we
address
that
there
are
so.
The
maps
are
correct,
but
they're
not
I
mean
they're
what
we
have
been
presented,
but
they
are
not
correct.
There
are
particularly
on
that
Street.
There
are
issues
with
the
mat
and
how
I
know
we
address
this
with
Heather
it
came
up
and
I,
don't
know
she
was
going
to
look
into
it
and
what
action
had
been
taken
beyond
that?
We
never
followed.
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Wanted
to
give
you
an
update,
I
know
you.
This
board's
been
talking
about
revising
the
updating
the
design
guidelines
for
some
time.
I
think
it
creates.
Maybe
everybody
but
David
I'm,
not
sure
on
the
city
manager
in
this
upcoming
budget
is
requesting
funds
so
that
we
can
hire
an
expert
to
look
at
the
design
guidelines
and
update
them
in
conjunction
with
the
board.
So
that's
that's
good
news,
not
sure
how
much
he's
looking
at
maybe
2025
thousand
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
put
out
a
request
for
proposals.
D
We've
talked
with
city,
st.
Pete
and
I,
see
a
Tampa
on
some
people
that
they
have
used
so
we're
getting
a
list
of
those
who
do
this
so
that
we
can
target
them
with
the
RFP.
So
in
the
meantime,
so
that
the
budget
takes
effect,
October
1.
In
the
meantime,
it
would
probably
good
to
you
know
as
a
board
to
think
about
what
are
the
critical
issues
that
you
have
with
the
design
guidelines.
What
needs
to
be
changed
or
updated,
you
know:
do
you
need
a
materials
list?
D
What
are
the
things
that
are
that
have
been
difficult
to
to
ascertain
or
to
clarify
as
you're
looking
at
the
at
the
review
criteria?
And
what
do
you
need
clarification
on,
because
that'll
help
us
to
put
together
a
good
proposal
and
help
the
person
who
you
know
eventually
is
hired
to
do
this
to
to
narrow
it
down
to
what
they
really
need
to
work
on
to
to
get
some
some
good
guidelines.
I
have.
A
A
question
about
that
mm-hmm
because
we
are
here
once
a
month,
maybe
once
every
other
month
we
go
based
on
the
agenda,
a
discussion,
keeping
it
open
in
the
Sun.
Not
we
can't
really
get
together
and
work
on
something
outside
of
public
a
public
forum
and
when
I
brought
it
up
with
staff
at
various
times
over
the
last
four
or
five
years.
It's
been
it's
not
your!
That's!
It's
the
commissioners
job
to
figure
all
that
out,
it's!
A
So
how
would
we
would
we
just
say:
okay,
you're,
going
to
put
it
on
our
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
Everybody
think
about
the
top.
I
mean:
how
do
we
what's
our
vehicle
moving
forward,
that
we
would
have
input
in
that
so
that
we're
not
I
can't
call
another
board
member
and
have
a
conversation
without
it
being
public
record.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
do
that?
Can
we
do
a
workshop
and
have
it
open
to
the
public
I
mean?
Is
this
board?
Do
that?
Are
we
commissioned
to
do
that?
A
A
We
do
very
unfair
to
our
residents
when
week
if
this
board
and
I'm
got
long
Don
and
whoever
sitting
up
here,
they
have
a
stronger
opinion
of
historical
preservation
than
me
that
shouldn't
play
it
should
be
in
writing
what
they
can
expect
and
what
they
need
to
do,
and
not
just
be
by
whim
of
whatever
happens,
to
be
more
conservative
or
more.
You
know,
liberal,
on
their
opinion
of
historical
preservation.
That's.
H
A
D
D
You
know
we
knew
what
we
wanted
to
do
in
that
case
hired
them.
They
brought
back
to
that
committee,
the
first
draft
of
the
report,
so
that
committee
could
hear
the
report
there
weren't
any
changes
to
it,
maybe
a
little
different,
because
it's
an
economic
impact
study.
It's
the
facts.
You
can't
like
change
them,
but
the
committee
had
an
opportunity
to
hear
first
the
draft
of
the
report
and
then
that
report
went
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
for
you
know
for
ultimate
approval.
So
we
can
do
that
same
thing
here.
D
We
can
have
them,
bring
Packard
contract
report
of
the
updated
guidelines
and
at
that
point
on
it
was
part
of
a
meeting
and
then,
if
you
have
changes
or
whatever
we
can,
we
can
go
from
there.
That's
how
I'm
envisioning
the
process
working,
but
in
up
leading
up
to
that
issues
that
you
have
just.
Let
me
know
what
they
are
or
email
me.
We
can
incorporate
that.
Can.
A
A
A
C
D
Right
now,
we've
got
the
the
budget
takes
effect,
October
1,
so
any
time
between
now
and
then
we
can't
start
the
process
till
October
1
so
any
time
between
now
and
then
you
can
email
me,
you
know
what
comments
you
have
questions
concerns
you
know,
I,
don't
like
this
about
the
guidelines
I'm
confused
about
this.
So
the
guidelines,
don't
really
tell
me
if,
if
party
board
is
acceptable
over
wood
or
you
know,
whatever,
whatever
the
issues
may
be
or
we've
got
new
construction
and
how
do
I?
D
How
do
I
wrap
my
head
around
new
construction
when
it's
going
into
an
old
historic
district?
What
kind
of
guidelines
should
we
have
for
that?
You
know
maybe
kind
of
reviewing
these
and
seeing
what's
clear
and
what
isn't
and
then
just
jotting
that
down,
so
that
when
we
move
forward
and
put
the
proposal
together
that
we
can
say
these
are
the
main
issues
that
we're
having
with
our
guidelines
that
we
need.
You
know
the
expert
to
address
and.
B
D
Yeah
welcome
any
we
want
to
make
these
make
this
right.
We
want
to
know,
we've
got
the
opportunity
now,
so
we
want
to
do
it.
So
if
anybody
who
was
on
this
board
in
the
past,
I
want
to
weigh
in
all
I
have
to
do
is
send
me
what
they
think
of
she
would
be
a
good
resource.
You
know,
Carrie
would
be
a
good
resource,
there's
lots
of
people
who
we
would
appreciate
any
input
we
could
get.
D
B
C
D
Yes,
I'm
sorry
I
had
that
too.
Mr.
Tunstall
issued
a
resignation,
so
we
have
two
openings
now
his
his
position
and
then
Phyllis's
is
still
unfilled.
So
we'll
talk
with
the
city
clerk
see
if
they
have
any
applications
on
file
and
if
not,
if
you
know
of
anybody
who
would
be
interested,
tell
them
to
apply,
and
then
we
can
take
that
to
the
board
for
to
fill
those
seats.