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A
D
E
E
G
H
E
All
right,
we
have
a
quorum
item
number
two
on
our
agenda
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
may
17th
meeting.
Do
I
have
a.
E
I
I'll
make
a
motion
to
prove
the
minutes
on
the
april
19
2021
meeting.
J
H
E
K
This
is
a
quasijudicial
proceeding
where
the
planning
and
zoning
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
act
based
upon
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
K
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
K
Are
there
any
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
ex
parte
communications
or
conflicts
of
interest
this
evening,
seeing
none?
If
anyone
is
wishing
to
speak
this
evening,
if
you
could
please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand
to
be
sworn
in,
do
you
swear
or
from
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth
so
sworn
and
also
keep
in
mind
that
the
first
two
applications
are
quasi-judicial.
However,
item
number
six,
a
and
b
are
legislative.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
four
application:
2147
conditional
use
approval
for
the
operation
of
a
seasonal,
short-term
rental
at
four
west
orange
street.
In
the
special
area
plans
t5d
transect
district.
Does
the
staff
have
a
presentation.
A
A
A
With
respect
to
your
review
criteria,
again,
this
is
in
t5d.
It
does
comply
with
the
transect
code
as
far
as
the
develop
the
existing
property
and
it
does
allow
for
vehicular
parking
sufficient
to
serve
this
use.
It's
in
that
downtown
area
with
the
various
mixed
uses,
the
uses
that
are
closest
to
this
property
include
office,
commercial,
single-family
and
multi-family
residential.
A
A
A
And
I
could
should
mention
these
short-term
rentals
in
this
block
between
center
and
orange
are
in
the
transect.
The
one
north
of
center
street
is
in
residential
multi-family,
as
is
the
spring
boulevard
over
here.
A
The
use
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
this
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district.
The
applicant
has
been
working
on
this
structure.
This
is
a
2018
google
street
view
picture,
and
this
is
still
a
work
in
progress,
but
this
is
what's
been
done
on
the
property,
a
lot
of
nice
restoration
done
on
on
the
wood
components
of
the
structure.
I've
been
kind
of
following
this
one,
also
a
restoration
of
the
sight
wall
feature
which
is
a
contributing
feature
on
the
property.
A
So
this
is
an
adaptive
use
to
a
short-term
rental
for
a
historic
structure
that
that
obviously,
is
always
served
as
a
residence,
and
it's
going
to
allow
this
historic
structure
to
continue
to
to
serve
the
city
and
be
positively
uplifted.
I
guess
in
the
historic
district
there
are
no
environmental
resources
on
the
site,
and
it's
thought
that
this
project
will
not
adversely
affect
property
values
in
the
area.
The
property
is
already
served
by
the
city
and
again
this
seems
to
be
a
good
use
for
this.
A
A
Access
and
circulation
down
a
little
bit
with
the
entrance
being
on
north
pinellas,
real
close
to
that
orange
street
north
pinellas
intersection.
It
seems
to
be
a
pretty
good
adaptive.
Use
for
this
site,
rather
than
say
an
office
or
commercial
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
four
conditions
seen
these
before
again,
this
is
already
a
residence.
So
these
are
the
conditions
that
the
fire
marshal
has
identified
for
something
that
is
existing
as
a
residence
just
to
to
keep
the
properties
safe
and,
of
course,
it
will
be
subject
to
all
other
codes
noise.
A
E
J
A
There's
no
limit
on
the
number
of
persons.
That
could
be
something
you
could
you
could
recommend
to
the
board
if
you
wish
to
do
that,
the
applicant,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
applicant's
present
they
could
probably
answer
that
yeah.
So.
A
E
A
I
believe
there
is
room
for
more,
especially
if
you're
parking,
one
behind
the
other,
probably
at
least
three
or
four
cars.
I
I
That
was
just
my
my
question.
I
can't
read
the
actual
measurements
if
there
are
any
on
the
width
and
length
of
the
concrete
pad
there,
that
would
be
a
concern
as
to
how
many
families
would
rent
that
all
at
once
and
where
they
would
park,
because
it
doesn't
seem
like.
I
It's
so
three
turns:
probably
you
can't
park
at
the
corner,
so
you
have
to
push
it
up.
It's
x
amount
of
feet
from
any
corner
of
any
intersection,
rather.
H
A
A
In
the
past
there
were
short-term
rentals
proposed
up
at
anclote
isles
at
that
in
that
item
we
looked
at
the
county
code
and
looked
at
conditioning
those
those
were
ultimately
denied
by
the
board
of
commissioners.
We
have
looked
at
those
as
conditions,
but
that
was
the
only
you
know
only
place.
We
really
really
looked
at
it.
That
was
obviously
a
very
residential
area,
very
well
established
residential
area.
H
Other
than
the
requirements
put
forth
by
the
fire
marshal,
which
we
would
read
as
a
smoke
detector
here
and
a
smoke
detector
there,
which
in
fact
the
basic
requirements
for
any
single
family
residence
period
other
than
the
requirement
for
a
fire
extinguisher.
There
are
no
additional
safety
features
that
are
requested
for
a
transient
short-term
rental.
So
here's
my
question
again
is
that
are
there
other
than
just
the
smoke
detector
requirements?
Are
there
no
additional
city
code
rules,
ordinances
that
hold
those
owners
to
a
higher
standard
of
safety
within
these?
A
The
building
code
under
the
building
code
and
the
fire
code,
the
the
occupancy,
has
not
changed
for
their
review
purposes,
so
they
can't
require
more
stringent
requirements.
We
had
another
one
that
you
reviewed,
I
believe
at
your
last
meeting
or
before
that
was
a
change.
It
was
an
office,
it's
actually
right
next
door
to
this
one
and
it
was
proposing
a
short-term
rental.
A
A
H
Thank
you,
and
I'm
not
quite
done,
but-
and
I
I
suspected
that
was
the
answer
to
that-
so
just
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
completely
in
in
this
app
in
the
two
applications
that
we
have
and
the
three
that
we've
approved.
So
now,
we've
got
this
cluster
of
five,
perhaps
six
single-family
residences
that
are
lovely-
and
this
is
a
great
use
I
would
agree,
but
we're
creating
a
cluster
of
older
homes
that
were
built
and
designed
for
single-family
residences.
H
That
now
can
hold,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
one
question
right
in
here:
what's
the
minimum
for
the
short-term
rental
is
that
one
day,
two
days
or
three
days
or
a
week.
H
Okay,
so
no
minimum,
so
no
minimum
stay
no
maximum
amount
of
people
that
can
stay
in
it,
and
yet
we
have
absolutely
no
safety
requirements
other
than
a
smoke
detector
at
all,
and
that's
not
so
much
a
question.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
clear
that
I
understand
so.
In
effect,
if,
let's
say,
for
example,
we
were
to
go
stay
at
a
motel
down
on
the
beach,
there
would
be
a
door
that
has
an
exit
sign
above
it
it
would
have
a
safety
release.
H
There
would
be
other
things
where,
in
effect,
giving
approval
for
owners
to,
under
the
guise
of
single-family
residents,
turned
these
into
micro.
Hotels,
which
again
is
a
fabulous
use,
preserve
the
structure,
but
yet
without
any
of
the
burden
of
the
safety
that
all
of
the
other
hotels
and
motels
are
forced
to
go
under
whether
those
be
sprinklers
or
adequate
parking
or
ada,
egress
or
waste
and
disposal
I'll
end
with
that
is
that
am
I
understanding
that
correctly.
G
A
By
unrelated
people,
so
this
this
is
being
a
being
proposed
to
be
approved
as
as
one
family,
renting
the
house
so
other
than
your
standard
building
codes
on
a
single
family,
for
the
number
of
you
know
exits
more
than
one
exit
or
whatever,
whatever
they
are.
Obviously
building
code
details
I'm
not
prepared
to
address,
but
those
standard
items
of
any
single
family
home
would
apply
to
this.
This
structure,
but.
A
K
And
if
I
might
interject
you
know,
I,
I
appreciate
your
line
of
questioning
and
keep
in
mind.
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
for
a
conditional
use
permit
with
specific
criteria.
What
it
sounds
like
to
me-
and
you
can
certainly
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong-
is
that
you
are
seeking-
maybe
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
commissioners,
that
this
section
of
code
be
looked
at
and
maybe
make
a
recommendation
to
change
this
section
of
code
in
order
to
include
some
of
those
provisions.
H
J
A
You
say
that
I
would
maybe
erica
can
chime
in,
but
you
can
circle
certainly
recommend
conditions
to
the
board.
J
L
J
K
K
I
know
at
one
point
it
did
and
that's
been
retracted,
I
believe
in
2011,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
double
check
that
that's
something
that
would
not
otherwise
be
preempted
to
the
state.
My
initial
thinking
is:
it's
not,
and
you
can
certainly
make
that
recommendation,
but
I'm
I
just
want
to
double
check
on
that.
E
Well,
we
can.
We
can
take
that
up
a
little
further
in
in
our
discussion
after
we
have
public
comment
if
there
is
any,
but
are
there
more
questions
for
the
staff
before
we
go
to
allowing?
I
don't
know
if
the
applicants
here
but
allowing
the
applicant
to
make
their
comments
if
they're
here.
E
K
H
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
motion
that
application.
Number
21-47
for
conditional
use
is
approved
as
submitted
with
the
additional
condition
that
the
board
of
commissioners
consider
adopting
the
pinellas
county
rules
for
occupancy.
Excuse
me,
occupancy
of
two
persons
per
bedroom
plus
two
in
an
additional
space
not
to
exceed
10
persons
per
unit.
H
E
H
H
H
E
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
five
application.
2148
same
deal
different
place.
Basically
133
north
pinellas
avenue
special
area
plan,
t5d
transect
district.
Do
we
have
a
staff.
A
A
A
Again,
this
is
in
the
t5d
district.
It
appears
to
meet
the
standards
of
that
district
and
it
also
has
a
parking
pad
type
configuration
that
allows
for
sufficient
parking
under
our
code
and
again.
This
is
in
that
mixed
use,
downtown
area,
and
course
it
fronts
on
19,
which
makes
it
a
little
less
desirable
in
in
some
instances
for
a
regular
single
family.
So
we're
talking
about
this
one
up
here
on
the
corner
and
this
one
down
here
is
the
one
you
just
recommended
approval
on.
A
This
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
This
is
another
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district.
The
applicant
is
not
proposing
any
changes.
This
is
just
a
look
at
the
structure
from
a
google
street
view
photo.
A
A
A
Again,
it
does
have
at
least
two,
and
I
think,
I'd
better-
do
a
little
bit
better
job
in
the
future
of
actually
scoping
out
how
many
vehicles
can
fit,
but
yeah.
It
does
have
at
least
two.
I
think
this
one
probably
has
a
little
more
room
than
the
one
you
just
looked
at,
but
I'll
be
sure
and
do
that
in
the
future
and-
and
I.
G
A
A
I
could
figure
that
one
out
and
I
just
looked-
I
don't-
have
a
scaled
survey
of
either.
I
E
E
J
Pat,
I
can't
tell
from
this
overhead:
is
there
a
house
directly
behind
that
house
or
is
that
an
empty
lot
behind
it?.
J
H
J
B
A
Is
the
office
used?
There
is
a
structure
towards
the
front
of
it.
This
is
a
very
large.
Well,
it's
a
relatively
large
property
for
downtown,
but
there
are
yeah.
There's
the
principal
structures
right
up
here
on
orange
street.
I
don't
know
there
may
be
accessory
structures
back
there,
but
it's
all
one
property.
I
And
there's
there's
no
street
parking
on
this
street.
A
A
A
Yeah-
and
this
does
show
a
covered,
concrete
structure
that
was
assumed
to
be
four
vehicles,
so
that.
H
E
A
E
So
if,
if
we
wanted
to
defer
this
item
for
the
applicant
to
be
present
and
answer
some
more
questions,
that
would
be
a
reasonable
request.
K
Usually,
requests
to
continue
are
at
the
discretion
of
the
applicant,
not
the
board,
and
that
is
because
it
would
be
a
due
process
issue
if
they
choose
not
to
show
up
and
not
to
have
a
voice
in
their
application
other
than
what
they've
submitted
to
the
city
in
written
form.
That's
the
evidence
that
they
choose
to
submit
the
onuses
on
them
and
the
burden
is
on
them
to
provide
the
requisite
information.
K
In
order
for
you
to
make
a
determination
if
the
evidence
as
presented
does
not
conform
with
the
criteria,
that's
set
forth
in
your
code
to
allow
you
by
law,
to
approve
the
permit,
then
the
conditional
use
permit
then
you're
required
to
deny
it
well.
It
might
be
nice
to
have
the
applicant
here
and
request
that
if
they
choose
not
to
show
that's,
that's,
unfortunately,
their
decision.
L
L
A
Yes,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
gravel
parking
pad
and
there
is
a
covered
structure
there.
It
was
assumed
that
those
could
be
in
the
gravel
pad
is
probably
represented
as
a
yard.
On
this
on
this
survey,
it
was
assumed
that
the
covered
concrete
could
be
parked
under
now.
It's
pretty
low.
A
Yeah
there's
some
the
item
labeled
as
covered
concrete
and
then
you'll
see
a
fence
line
to
the
to
the
west
and
to
the
south,
and
I
can
show
you
on
the
powerpoint.
That's
actually
gravel
and
it
looks
like
people
parked
there.
A
I
A
I
Pad
yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
logistically,
you
know
if
it's
a
two-story,
I'm
assuming
it's
three
bedrooms
all
upstairs.
So
if
you
have
three
times
two
people
per
room,
that's
that's
a
total
of
three
vehicles.
You
can
only
fit
one
vehicle
in
the
driveway.
The
other
two
would
have
to
park
in
the
adjacent
lot.
E
I
K
According
to
your
rules
of
procedure,
you
do
not
have
the
ability
to
table
this
to
the
next
meeting.
The
only
time
you
have
the
ability
to
continue
the
public
hearing
is
if
it
cannot
be
concluded
at
the
meeting
scheduled.
Usually
that's
due
to
time.
You
would
continue
it
to
due
to
a
date
certain
or
if
the
applicant
has
elected,
to
defer
their
item
either
prior
to
the
meeting
or
there's
been
a
determination
by
the
applicant
based
on
concession
of
the
board
that
they
would
continue
it
to
a
future
meeting.
It's
a
procedural
due
process.
K
I
K
K
J
I
E
E
H
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion,
but
from
the
motion
to
the
vote
it's
been
voted
so
I
was
maybe
we
could
have
a
make-up
discussion.
K
Procedurally,
the
vote's
been
had
and
everything's
been
taken
care
of.
I
would
say
if
your
discussion
is
pertinent
to
that
application,
then
the
time
for
that
discussion
is
over.
If
your
discussion
is
with
regard
to
general
terms,
then
that
I
defer
to
the
chairman
as
to
whether
or
not
that
discussion
will
be
had
today
or
if
that
needs
to
be
noticed
for
a
future
meeting.
H
If
I
may,
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
general
term
discussion
in
regards
to
short-term
rental
and
parking
requirements,
only
coincidentally,
that
it
is
an
issue
on
everyone
that
we
have
seen
to
date,
that
we
have
ever
so
slightly
brought
up
previously,
but
have
just
kind
of
thought.
Oh,
they
must
have
already
thought
about
that.
It
appears
that
either
the
applicants
or
our
staff
that
works
very,
very
hard.
That's
just
to
find
a
detail,
and
so
this
is
less
discussion
and
kind
of
just
my
thought
on.
H
Every
night
30
nights
a
week
or
excuse
me
30
nights
a
month
by
law,
they
can
have
ten
all
the
time,
that's
four
or
five
cars
all
the
time,
totally
legal.
Where
are
these
folks
gonna
park?
We
know
that
there's
not
adequate
parking
there.
So
that
means
that
we're
creating
bypassing
some
of
these
a
situation
in
the
future.
That's
going
to
be
uncomfortable
for
the
owners,
the
guests
and
and
our
enforcement
of
that.
E
It
I
mean
it
strikes
me
that
it
goes
beyond
the
parking
even
there
and
and
maybe
looking
at
the
pinellas
standards
is
a
good
starting
point.
But
there's
there's
a
lot
of
little
issues
that
come
up
frequently
in
these
things
and
it
seems
to
me
it
would
be
appropriate
for
us
to
have
for
the
city
to
have
a
standard
that
you
know
you
check
off
these
items.
E
You
have
three
parking
spaces
or
whatever
is
appropriate,
for
you
know
for
a
facility
that
can
hold
10
people
or
whatever,
and
these
are
the
minimum
standards
and
and
everybody
has
to
meet
them,
and
and
safety
can
be
a
part
of
that
too,
and
occupancy
certainly
is
a
part
of
that.
So.
K
Might
I
make
a
suggestion
that
it
sounds
like
there's
a
majority,
or
at
least
a
large
consensus
of
the
board
that
would
like
to
have
an
in-depth
discussion
on
this
and
maybe
make
recommendations
to
the
board
of
commissioners
to
change
the
ordinance
to
include
these
types
of
things.
If
I
could
make
a
suggestion
that
this
be
put
on
a
future
agenda
as
a
discussion
item
so
that
you
all
can
prepare
and
kind
of
bring
your
ideas
and
then
make
a
formal
recommendation
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
them
to
entertain
a
change
to
that
ordinance.
H
E
E
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
six
application,
21-70
amending
the
city's
special
area
plan
and
smart
code.
I'm
sure
the
staff
has
a
presentation
for
us.
B
C
Hello,
my
name
is
ali
keane,
I'm
the
senior
planner
with
planning
and
zoning
department.
I
don't
think
I've
met
you
guys
in
person
yet
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here
tonight
to
go
over
our
proposed
amendments
as
a
quick
refresher,
the
special
area
plan
was
a
plan
that
was
developed
for
the
sponge
docs
and
the
community
redevelopment
area.
It
was
first
adopted
back
in
2011..
C
C
The
smart
code
further
divides
down
the
character
districts
into
various
transact
zones,
which
is
the
map
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen.
The
transect
zones
operate
more
so
like
a
traditional
zoning
district
and
that
they
have
the
more
dimensional
and
development
criteria
for
developing
the
properties.
C
Over
the
last
10
years,
this
has
come
before
the
boards
for
some
updates
and
amendments,
and
that's
what
we're
here
today
for
the
first
item
to
consider
are
some
amendments
to
the
special
area
plan.
These
are
generally
fairly
minor.
The
first
is
to
update
text
and
the
map
for
the
coastal,
high
hazard
area
and
I'll
go
over
that
in
just
a
minute
and
then
the
second
is
we've
just
noticed.
C
The
there
is
a
map
in
the
special
area
plan
that
shows
the
coastal
high
hazard
area.
It
was
the
intention,
in
the
special
area
plan,
to
update
this
map
as
the
boundary
of
that
hazard
area
changed
over
time.
That
map
has
not
been
updated.
So
this
is
what
we're
proposing
to
amend
today
and
that
is
to
reflect
the
current
boundary
of
the
coastal
high
hazard
area.
C
The
the
purpose
of
this
map
in
the
code
is
when
the
special
area
plan
was
adopted.
There
were
some
increases
in
density
properties
within
the
coastal.
High
hazard
area
are
not
able
to
have
increased
increases
in
density,
so
this
map
just
documents
those
properties
and
limits
them
to
their
previous
density
allowances.
C
The
first
is
probably
the
more
significant
amendment,
and
this
is
adding
a
new
section
to
the
smart
code,
the
elevated
structures,
design
guidelines.
As
you
saw
the
coastal
hazard
map.
There
are
several
properties
located
within
that
hazard
area,
as
well
as
properties
that
are
then
designated
flood
plain.
This
ultimately
can
result
in
elevating
buildings
in
order
to
have
flood
protection.
C
This
has
an
unintended
and
unintentional
consequence
to
the
street
level
when
buildings
are
higher
than
the
designated
or
desired
street
level.
So
these
guidelines
are
intended
to
recognize
the
importance
of
protecting
buildings
from
flood
events,
while
also
understanding
the
importance
of
functionality,
the
pedestrian
experience
and
sustaining
a
vibrant
and
walkable
neighborhood.
C
The
section
establishes
four
different
urban
design
principles
which
are
listed
here
on
the
screen.
Those
include
visual
connectivity
and
the
active
street
frontage
facade
articulation
inviting
access
and
neighborhood
character
and
basically
the
the
idea
behind
these
guidelines
is
that
a
proposed
development
that
has
to
elevate
a
structure
would
have
to
meet
the
overall
intent
of
each
of
these
principles.
C
Some
of
the
other
proposed
amendments,
the
next
one
is
in
regards
to
single-family
detached
housing.
Currently,
a
single
family
is
only
permitted
by
right
in
the
t4d
district.
It
is
a
conditional
use
in
the
other
t4
zones.
We
are
proposing
that
single
family
be
a
permitted
use
by
wright
in
all
t4
districts.
C
C
Those
special
allowances
are
not
reflected
in
the
smart
code,
so
this
proposed
change
just
makes
references
to
that
and
just
makes
it
consistent
between
the
two
plans.
This
change
does
not
increase
any
density
that
wasn't
previously
allowed
all.
It
does
is
just
clearly
connect
the
two
documents
and
then
the
last
amendment
is
just
updating
the
coastal
high
hazard
area
with
map
within
the
special
area
plan
and
the
smart
code.
J
I
have
a
question
of
attorney
aguero.
J
Yes,
I
own
a
piece
of
property-
that's
in
this
on
this
map
in
orange,
and
does
that
preclude
me
from
voting
on
this.
K
No,
the
reason
being
is
that
there
are
many
many
many
properties
that
are
included
on
this
map
and
the
ratio
is
so
big
that
you
do
not
have
a
conflict.
H
H
You
you
were
machine
gunning,
pretty
fast
there,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
just
the
actual
ordinance
itself,
and
it
would
be
whereas
number
four,
whereas
com,
a
single-family
home,
should
be
identified
as
permitted
use
in
certain
transit
zones,
comma
or
apostrophe.
C
C
They
were
only
permitted
by
wright
within
the
t4d
district,
so
this
proposal
is
just
to,
instead
of
making
them
conditional,
make
them
permitted
by
right
and,
like
I
said,
we
looked
at
this
and
decided
this
was
probably
an
avenue
to
go
before
go
through
because
over
the
past
several
years,
these
applications
are
coming
before
the
boards
and
they're
ultimately
getting
approved.
So
it's
showing
kind
of
the
trend
and
the
desire.
H
Okay,
so
if
I
may
at
some
point,
someone
decided
that
it
was
a
really
good
idea
that
they
were
a
conditional
use
and
were
not
a
standard
use
so
other
than
it's
convenient.
What
are
the
good
reasons
for
us
changing
this
conditional
use
that
at
some
point
again,
a
group
of
people
thought
about
and
really
didn't
want
to
include
it.
What
conditions
have
changed
or
are
we
simply
making
it
easier
for
a
particular
group
or
owners
to
just
not
have
to
go
through
that
continuous
use
process?
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
think,
that's
a
really
great
question
so
again
this
you
know
this
plan,
both
the
special
area
plan
and
the
smart
code
were
adopted
10
years
ago.
At
that
time
there
was
a
thought
about
how
how
is
it
going
to
redevelop
in
the
future,
this
area
of
downtown
some
of
the
nearby
residential
neighborhoods?
How
are
they
going
to
develop
so
at
that
time
it
was
intended
that
yes,
you're
still
going
to
have
some
single
family
development.
It's
already
there.
C
Yes,
you
may
have
some
more
single-family
development
in
that
area,
but
at
the
time
they
believed
that
maybe
it
would
be
more
so
you
know
duplexes
triplex
is
a
little
more
dense
development.
What
we're
seeing
is
that
that's
not
what's
happening,
we're
getting
more
of
these
small
info.
Lots
are
more,
you
know
suitable
for
the
single
family
home
and
that's
the
the
desire
and
the
trend
of
how
developments
going
so
we're
just
trying
to
react
to
both
what
we're,
seeing
and
then
also
the
overall
makeup
of
the
neighborhood.
E
A
question
on
the
densities
and
intensities:
now
the
the
smart
code
is
the
document,
that's
being
changed
and
it's
being
changed
strictly
just
to
match
with
the
special
area
plan
and-
and
there
are
no
density
changes
other
than
things
that
were
already
set
forth
in
the
special
area
plan
correct.
That's.
I
I
just
have
one
question:
the
t4
t4d
section:
that's
located
down
at
the
southern
southeastern
part.
I
C
So
that
area
single
family
is
is
already
permitted
by
right,
the
areas
that
are
going
to
change
where
it's
going
from
conditional
to
permitted
or
all
the
other
t4
zones.
So
it's
going
to
be
t4c,
t4a
and
t4b,
and
those
are
kind
of
the
the
various
shades
of
yellow
gotcha.
C
E
C
And
just
a
couple
off
off
of
that
discussion,
although
single
family
would
now
be
potentially
a
use
permitted
by
right,
it's
all
the
other
allowed
uses
that
were
initially
thought
were
still
will
still
be
allowed.
You
know
by
right
or
conditional
how
they
are
so
that's
the
only
particular
use.
That's
changing.
E
D
C
Are
answer
her
question
or
yeah.
B
C
Let's
see,
if
I
can,
I
apologize,
this
map
is
very
small
to
see
on
here.
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
my
best
to
do
the
highlighting
here.
If
I
can
even
start
this,
oh
it's
the
bottom.
There
we
go
okay,
so
right
now,
and
the
single
family
change.
Okay,
so
right
now
this
area
here,
it's
kind
of
the
lighter
yellow
and
this
area
over
here-
is
where
it's
permitted
by
right.
Currently,
where
we're
proposing
changes
are
in
these
areas,
which
are
like
the
darker.
B
Are
yes.
C
C
K
J
J
E
E
E
E
A
Staff
is
asking
that
we
can
defer
that
discussion.
We
have
additional
coordination
with
the
city
attorney
before
we
can
do
that,
so
we'll
bring
it
back
to
your
next
meeting.
E
All
right,
then,
item
number
eight.
Do
we
have
any
other
staff
comments.