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A
Showing
seven
o'clock
on
the
clock
it's
time
to
convene
the
july
19th
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
A
C
D
E
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
planning
and
voting
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
against
the
applicant.
E
A
F
F
This
applicant
will
have
to
appear
before
the
heritage
preservation
board
as
well
for
any
exterior
alterations,
and
it's
not
clear
whether
a
full
site
plan
would
be
needed,
but
the
applicant
just
wants
to
have
a
determination
made
as
to
whether
the
use
could
be
allowed
here
in
the
t4b
district,
which
is
the
the
residential
plus
the
industrial
office
and
industrial
district.
A
restaurant
is
a
conditional
use.
F
F
The
t4b
transect
district
limits
the
restaurant
use
really
mainly
for
plant
planting
for
parking
requirements
that
is
kind
of
one
of
the
ways
that
the
transact
zone
deals
with
parking
in
this
district.
The
reason
that
this,
so
that's
that's
one
aspect
of
this.
The
other
aspect
is
that
this
is
conditional
because
of
the
the
nature
of
this
transect
being
mainly
devoted
to
the
office
in
industrial.
F
This
is
the
last
and
I
didn't
put
a
map
I
probably
should
have,
but
this
is
the
easternmost
extent
of
the
downtown
character
district.
So,
as
you
know,
we
have
character
districts
which
have
multiple
transects
and
vice
versa.
F
In
this
case,
the
beginning
of
that
that
t4b,
transect
and
going
east
really
further
east
is
where
most
of
the
industrial
and
office
uses
are,
in
fact,
the
building
just
to
the
east,
which
was
also
part
of
the
original
smurless
bakery,
I
guess,
is
being
renovated
for
rental,
for
some
retail
uses
and
perhaps
some
light
industrial
type
uses
there.
So
this
is
a
real
mixed
area
and
it
becomes
more
industrial
as
you
travel
east.
F
F
F
So
this
uses
in
the
t4b
district,
the
applicant
has
offered
a
parking
solution
in
addition
to
the
down
the
parking
that's
already
available
downtown
in
the
form
of
a
vacant
lot.
That
is
just
north
of
this
building.
On
the
half
block.
F
The
use
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
it's
not
in
an
environmentally
sensitive
area.
Again,
we
feel
like
bringing
this
building
to
an
active
use
will
help
with
the
maintaining
the
property
values
in
the
surrounding
area.
There
are
public
facilities
available
to
the
building,
and
this
is
an
appropriate
adaptive,
use
and
logical
for
downtown.
F
G
I
I
I
do
have
a
question
the
footprint
that
they
showed
that
obviously
that's
going
to
be
subject
to
change
based
on
the
development
requirements.
G
If
you
look
at
the
survey
there's
a
footprint
or
on
the
property
that
shows
the
the
building
dimensions,
that's
that's
subject
to
change
once
it
goes
through
the
other
departments,
then,
because
one
of
the
things
that
maybe
I'll
just
ask
the
applicant
that
I
had
a
question
I'll
just
wait.
I'll
just
defer
my
questions
to
the
applicant.
F
Yes
and
you're
right-
this
is
an
existing
building.
The
setbacks
are,
as
you
know,
with
these
transects
fairly
generous,
so
zero
lot
line
buildings
are
generally
acceptable
in
in
these
transects,
but
that
would
all
be
looked
at
if
it
is
not
conforming,
it
would
be
considered
legal
non-conforming.
G
And
would
ask
to
be
brought
to
code?
One
of
them
is
functionality.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
building.
I
don't
have
a
problem.
You
know
just
looking
at
the
conceptual
footprint
of
the
building.
One
of
the
questions
I
had
and
that
wouldn't
be
for
you
would
be
for
the
applicant
is
sanitary
availability
for,
for
you
know
you
have
to
have
if
you
have
to
have
trash
and
stuff
removal
where.
D
D
H
And
to
this
rendering?
Well
let
me
go
back
to
the
plan.
H
H
F
No,
and
as
as
I
mentioned
concept
only
is
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
use,
the
applicant
would
have
to
be
much
more
specific
on
the
plan
when
it
goes
to
hbbc.
F
A
Okay,
is
there
a
number
of
tables
or
square
feet
of
the
area
where
the
tables
would
be
located?
Do
we
know
that
information
at
this
point.
F
I
don't
think
there's
a
number
proposed
there
may
be.
The
applicant
may
be
able
to
give
an
estimate
in
the
narrative
he
mentioned
indoor
seating
on
the
ground
floor,
some
outdoor
seating,
I
believe
it
was
stated
it
would
be
limited
and
then
a
room
upstairs
for
groups,
so
he
could
expand
on
what
that
use
would
be.
I
think.
G
But
doesn't
a
restaurant
require
a
different
number
of
seating
per
per
square
foot
than
retail.
I
F
I
C
F
F
The
parking
lot
that
has
to
be
built
on
the
vacant
line
will
come
before
you,
so
you'll
probably
see
the
whole
scheme
again
because
that
that
may
or
may
not
be
accessory
to
this,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
will
play
out
in
the
code,
because
I
don't
have
the
specific
plan,
so
I
don't
have
it
either.
So
I
don't
know
the
process
it
may
or
may
not
come
back
to
you.
All.
We're
looking
at
tonight
is
the
use
being
appropriate
in
that
transect.
D
G
I'll
open
it
up
when
they
talk
about
the
parking
or
the
having
parking
availability
at
the
property
just
north
is
that
under
common
ownership,
do
you
own
that,
as
well.
J
G
And
I
obviously
you
know
what
I
had
asked
before,
because
the
the
building
has
been
there
forever:
okay,
you're,
not
making
the
building
bigger,
but
it's
on
a
smaller
lot
kind
of
and
so
to
have
waste
services
in
there
getting
a
waste
truck
in
and
out
of
there.
I
guess,
with
the
parking
lot
in
the
back,
you'd
be
able
to
provide
access.
J
J
G
J
But
the
the
footprint,
because
I
had
heard
you
ask
it
earlier-
will
not
change
oh
yeah,
yeah
and,
and
the
only
thing
that
would
change
on
the
rendering.
Now
the
rendering
was
made
before
me.
It
was
made
by
the
previous
owner.
I'm
not
sure.
I've
never
really
noticed
that
there
was
seating
in
between
the
buildings,
but
that
will
not
be
as
those
buildings
are
being
renovated.
J
Obviously,
we
will
not
have
seating
there,
the
the
purpose
of
that
rendering
would
be
to
add
the
balconies
back
to
the
front
and
matter
of
fact,
in
the
photos
you
could
see
the
old
of
you
know
anchoring
that
was
there
for
both
of
those
balconies,
which
would
add
balcony
outdoor
seating.
In
addition
to,
under
the
the
second
floor,
outdoor.
J
C
I
have
a
question
about
that:
the
parking
area,
so
it's
a
vacant
lot
we'll
say,
remember
it
was
fenced
and
now
it's
not
fenced
and
it's
green
and
well,
if
it's
paved,
are
there
storm
water
related
issues
because
of
course,
as
a
guest
at
johnny's
and
around
there
that
street
flood's
pretty
good
even
now
after
they've
cleaned
it
up
so
has
that
been
brought
up
in
any
way
does?
Does
it
even
matter
if
it
gets
paved
where
the
rest
of
that
water
goes?
The.
J
So
we're
not
gonna
pave
it.
I
don't
think
that
would
make
sense
either
aesthetically
with
the
alleys
or
or
make
sense
for
parking
and
then
the
need
that
we
have
for
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
it
sounds
like
it's
preliminary,
but
do
you
have
a
feel
for
the
number
of
guests
that
you
would
be
trying
to
accommodate.
J
Yeah
in
walking
the
property
with
or
walking
the
building
with,
mr
hoffman,
we
are
going
to
be
limited
because
of
what,
even
though
I'm
not
going
to
run
the
restaurant
or
or
or
have
it,
I
want
to
keep
the
old
oven.
That
is
a
large
structure
on
the
first
floor
and
we
want
to
make
the
kitchen
around
that,
so
that
would
limit
first
floor
seating.
I
said
I
think
he
said
we
can
get
30
or
40
seats
first
floor.
J
J
A
Applicant,
you
may
be
seated
and
do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
on
this.
A
Application
seeing
none-
and
you
already
said
we
had
no
public
comments,
correct.
That's.
F
A
G
C
C
A
That
brings
us
to
item
number
four
of
our
agenda
application.
21-68.
It's
conditional
use
approval
for
construction
of
two
single-family
detached
dwellings
in
the
special
area
plan,
t
4c
transect
district.
Do
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
F
Yes,
this
is
a
proposal
to
construct
two
single-family
residences
on
vacant
property.
This
is
currently
one
piece
of
property
that
will
be
divided
that
were
originally
two
lots
in
the
original
platinum
and
those
will
be
divided
back
to
the
two
separately:
platted
lots,
and
now
this
is
a
single-family
residence.
Can
that
is
subject
to
conditional
use
review
in
t4c
residential
high,
where
single-family
residences
are
classified
for
conditional
use.
F
As
you
might
remember,
at
your
last
meeting,
you
heard
some
amendments
to
the
smart
code
that
would
remove
these
from
conditional
use
that
has
passed
on
first
reading
at
the
board
of
commissioners
pursuant
to
your
recommendation,
but
has
not
been
adopted
so
technically.
We
have
brought
this
before
you,
but
it
should
be
the
last
one
you
see
so
again.
F
F
F
Each
slot
is
about
5700
square
feet.
This
is
a
survey
showing
the
two
lots
and
just
a
conceptual
site
plan
or
floor
plan
presented
by
the
applicant
and
as
far
as
the
standards,
the
property
does
comply
with
the
land
development
code
and
the
dwellings
would
be
built
in
accordance
with
the
design
standards
of
the
transect
code
and
the
proposed
use
is
compatible.
This
says
this
street
is
pretty
much
occupied
by
single-family
residences
and
then
over
to
the
west.
F
Of
course,
you've
got
north
pinellas
commercial
corridor,
but
the
street
between
safford
and
north
pinellas
is
all
single
family.
The
use
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
This
is
not
in
this
historic
district
or
in
an
environmentally
sensitive
area,
and
this
is
consistent
with
the
surrounding
development,
so
we
expect
it
to
be
compatible
and
not
adversely
affect
the
joining
neighbors.
F
F
D
F
Yeah,
as
you
move
east
yeah
there's
there,
there
is
one
privately
owned
lot
east
of
this,
and
then
east
of
that
is
a
city-owned
parcel
that
I
know
is
wet.
I'm
not
sure
how
it
is
wetlands,
I'm
not
sure
how
far
over
that
comes,
but
these
two
properties
are
high
and
dry
as
far
as
as
far
as
we
know,.
J
A
C
C
A
A
F
Yes
and
this
proposal
is
to
establish
this
training
facility
up
at
the
river
bend
business
park
located
north
of
of
the
river.
This
is
in
the
industrial
plant
development,
zoning
district
and
the
ipd
district.
F
Well,
let
me
first
say
that
the
site
plan
approval
and
the
planning
is
completed
on
this
property
so
that
those
processes
have
been
completed.
So
all
that's
needed
for
site
development
is
to
pull
a
building
permit
for
the
building.
F
We
don't
expect
the
impact
to
be
maybe
quite
as
much
as
a
as
a
as
a
health
club
or
racket
club,
that's
open
to
the
public.
This
will
be
more
structured.
The
applicant
is
here
to
explain
it.
You
have
a
pretty
detailed
narrative
in
your
packet,
you
know
the
it'll
be
controlled
around
events
and
and
scheduled
classes,
and
things
like
that.
F
F
So
this
is
located
kind
of
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
district.
Here's
ankle
road
and
eleanor
industrial
and
brady
road
up
here-
and
if
you
remember
this,
this
is
river
bend
village,
which
has
an
ipd.
It
has
industrial
business
park
component
and
it's
got
a
residential
component.
Those
are
separated
by
a
large
storm
water
pond.
F
F
So
again,
this
has
already
been
approved
for
the
layout
and
the
plating,
and
this
will
be
in
a
warehouse
style
building.
So
if
this
business
does
close
down
or
move
out,
this
property
will
still
be
appropriate
for
those
industrial
uses.
Warehouse
uses.
F
So
it
is,
we
feel
it
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
It's
not
an
historic
district
or
an
environmentally
sensitive
area.
This
is
a
pretty
good
addition
for
this
kind
of
diverse
mix
of
businesses.
That's
been
going
going
in
up
at
this
business
park,
it's
really
kind
of
a
it's
called
the
business
park
and
it
really
is
it's:
it's
got
some
light
manufacturing
assembly
some
different
uses.
The
applicant
may
be
able
to
elaborate,
but
it's
kind
of
a
clean
industry,
business
type
of
focus
in
this
park.
F
G
You
know
me
I'm
asked
questions.
I
got
a
it's
really
not
so
much
this
particular
applicant,
but
the
fact
that
there
is
you
know
a
lot
of
building
residence
residential
building.
That's
going
on
on
that
side
of
the
river.
Is
there
any
city
property,
that's
dedicated
for
recreational
facilities.
F
D
G
G
D
H
I
have
a
question:
would
this
propose
building?
Would
it
be
part
of
that
new
subdivision
there
or.
D
F
If
you
look
where
my
pointer
is
this
area,
that's
to
the
north
and
west
of
this,
this
is
the
storm
water
upon
the
dark
signature.
This
area
is
all
industrial
plant
development
platted.
It's
a
subdivided
plat
with
industrial
lots,
business
lots.
This
area
is
a
platted
subdivision
with
single-family
detached
residential
laws.
F
K
E
K
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
paint
the
picture
of
what
I'm
the
developer
of
riverbend
and
the
idea
we
had
behind.
It
was
to
do
like
a
live
work
play
and
it's
coming
off.
That
way.
You
say
industrial,
but
we've
created
jobs
for
the
area.
Here,
it's
clean
their
distribution
and
no
smoke
stacks
that
we've
seen
so
far
and
don't
expect
to
see
any
of
them
a
lot
of
deed
restrictions
to
keep
the
quality
up
in
there
with
the
elevations
and
then
controlling
exterior
storage
and
stuff,
like
that.
K
So
this
kind
of
fits
right
in
with
some
of
the
residents
were
sold
out
residential
community
and
the
riverbend
site
and
people
there
already
planning
to
have
jobs
over
in
the
other
section
that
pat
pointed
out
to
you
and
what
the
applicant
is
planning
to
do
is
fairly
common
in
the
industrial
sites
and
nicer
places
you
don't
want
to
go
into
a
rundown
place
and
bring
children
and
stuff.
So
this
is
going
to
be
well
kept
and
I
think
they'll
be
real
comfortable
in
there
and,
I
believe,
an
asset
for
the
town.
K
I
I
think
when
they
looked
at
the
overall
area,
if
I
remember
when
this
happened
mike,
it
was
the
bike
trail,
the
marinas,
the
boat
rams
proposed
and
what's
existing
and
tarpon
springs,
it's.
D
I
I
haven't
been
to
the
back
of
that
area,
but
I
I
know
that
apollo
is
a
pretty
big
gym.
I
know
that
there's
a
big
gymnastics
gym
a
lot
of
kids.
A
lot
of
families
go
there.
Is
there
going
to
be
plenty
of
parking
back
there
for
you
guys
to
feel
sick
because,
usually
like
300
kids
at
the
same
at
one
time,
usually
isn't
it
so.
L
We
typically
have
anywhere
between
80
to
100
kids
at
during
one
hour,
but
the
majority
of
that
is
with
our
after-school
program,
where
we
actually
pick
the
children
up
from
school
and
bring
them
to
the
facility,
so
their
parents
are
only
there
to
pick
them
up
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So.
I
L
A
quick
pickup
process.
I
Okay,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
like
a
complete
just
gymnastic
bar
like
like,
where
they
do
the
the
competitions
and
all
that
other
stuff
too.
L
We
have
that
as
well,
and
the
after
school
program
still
learns
gymnastics.
It's
just
it's
more
our
way
of
supporting
family
working
families
in
a
gymnastics
environment,
so
they
get
to
do
gymnastics
and
then
the
parents
are
just
there
to
pick
them
up.
Okay,
yeah.
Thank
you.
Welcome.
G
C
C
B
A
F
Training:
okay,
I
just
want
to
do
a
quick
run
through
of
a
training
series
that
we're
kind
of
starting
to
develop
for
the
board.
Basically,
what
I
thought
I
would
do
is
just
do
some
short
hit.
Some
topics
give
you
some
context
over
the
next
two
three
four
meetings,
where
you
have
light
agendas
to
start
to
kind
of
set
the
framework,
especially
with
the
comprehensive
plan
coming
up
and
land
development
code
changes,
so
kind
of
our
proposing
kind
of
three
modules
of
it
plus
special
topics.
F
I
will
tell
you
that
you,
you
all
asked
for
a
special
workshop
on
short-term
rentals.
F
F
Probably
the
the
platform
legislation
that
that
came
out
was
in
the
70s
under
ruben
askew,
and
then
senator
bob
graham
state
senator
bringing
in
some
of
these
concerns
with
major
population
growth.
Since,
since
this
the
state
started
doing
zoning,
some
of
the
jurisdictions
in
the
state
started
doing
zoning
in
the
like
20s
or
30s
major
population
growth
and
some
of
the
concerns
that
started
to
come
up
with
environmental
and
facilities,
environmental
impacts
and
the
provision
of
facilities.
So
we
had
the
environmental
land
and
water
management
act
and
the
florida
water
resources
act.
F
D
F
That's
when
then
governor
bob
graham
brought
in
the
what
we
all
know
as
the
growth
management
act.
That
was
really
at
the
time,
probably
the
the
only
or
the
biggest
coordinated
system
of
state,
regional
and
local
planning
that
was
mandated
by
state
in
in
the
whole
country.
Really,
everybody
had
to
write
a
comprehensive
plan
and
adopt
the
future
land
use
map.
F
F
F
So
after
about
25
years
of
that
kind
of
fast
forward
to
the
community
planning
act
that
came
in
under
rick
scott,
the
growth
management
act
did
operate
and,
and
there
was
pushback
over
the
years,
but
it
operated
pretty
much
as
it
was
adopted
until
I
don't
know
the
2000s
under
charlie
chris,
there
were
some
pretty
big
tweaks
made,
but
it
didn't
really
didn't
really
disturb
the
overall
framework
of
the
growth
management
act,
the
pushback
and
then
the
economic
downturn
notice
the
year
were
the
perfect
storm
for
the
community
planning
act,
which
was
a
total.
F
F
The
department
of
community
affairs
was
disbanded.
It's
now
the
department
of
economic
opportunity,
some
of
the
the
the
citizen
and
state
intervention
was
pretty
much
eliminated
the
as
far
as
amendments,
the
fairly
debatable
standard
came
in
to
replace
the
strict
scrutiny.
F
So
we
do
have
a
comprehensive
plan
under
163
statute
163,
and
that
statute
describes
the
comprehensive
plan
as
a
plan
that
guides
future
development
and
growth
and
plans
for
it.
So
it
encourages
the
most
appropriate
use
of
land
in
in
concert
with
the
city's
vision
and
the
public
interest.
So
it's
that
public
policy
guide
for
those
decisions
usually
includes
goals,
objectives
and
policies
which
ours
does
some
plans,
have
strategies
or
initiatives
different
things
like
that
it
plans
for
the
provision
of
public
and
capital
facilities
and
I've
got
them.
F
G
Has
there
been
any
discussion,
I
know
several
years
ago,
pinellas
county?
Maybe
it
has
reached
build
out
and
you
know
where
are
we
I
mean?
I
know
that's
got
to
be
part
of
the
discussion.
You
know
we
sit
here
and
we
we
look
at
at
the
future.
Development
of
of
tarpon
springs,
but
I
don't
know
where
the
where
the
city
or
staff
comes
with
regard
to
build
out.
F
So
we'll
talk
about
that
and
then
bring
it
back
to
tarp
and
talk
about
specifics
of
population.
What's
our
expected
growth,
our
vacant
lands
so
yeah
I'd
like
to
bring
that
back
and
kind
of
make
it
meaningful
underground.
Here,
for
what
you
guys
look
at,
but
yeah
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
just
to
answer
your
question.
F
If
you
look
at,
we
use
the
bureau
of
economic
and
business
research,
population
projections
and
I
think
the
last
projection
and
they
extrapolated
out
between
censuses
right,
so
we're
supposed
to
get
our
first
state
and
maybe
county
census
numbers
like
last,
I
heard
september
it's
late.
This
time,
because
the
2020
census
was
of
course,
would
have
been
april
2020
it
was,
it
was
stretched
out
considerably
because
of
coven.
F
We
usually
get
our
numbers
a
year
later,
so
it
would
have
been
spring
2021
we'll
get
started,
first
start
getting
some
numbers,
but
we're
at
like
26
000,
and
the
projected
growth
on
last
bieber
estimate
was
like
another.
You
know
800
or
a
thousand.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
where
they're
at
but
but
but
the
growth
projections
are
based
on
past
growth
numbers.
F
The
future
land
use
map
is
what
we
use
for
our
long-term
vision
and
the
colors
aren't
too
good
on
here.
But
this
is
our
future
ladies
map
you've
seen
that
in
the
past
and
I'll
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
minute,
and
the
comprehensive
plan
was
first
adopted
in
1989.
F
So
in
response
to
that
to
the
growth
management
act,
it's
got
technical
and
policy
documents.
I
don't
know
is
anybody
here
in
89
and
90
and
remember
the
adoption
of
the
that
whole
process?
F
Okay,
so
the
coastal
counties
had
to
do
their
comp
plants
first,
so
that
would
have
include
coastal
counties
and
cities
that
would
have
included
turpin
and
most
jurisdictions
have
a
separate
technical
document,
which
is
the
data
and
analysis
that
kind
of
you
base
your
decisions
on
and
make
decisions
to
write
policies.
F
That's
your
information
where
you
derive
your
policies
from
and
then
the
policy
documents
usually
separate
in
tarpon
for
some
reason
they
they
made
it
all
one
document
which
is
okay,
so
I'll
I'll,
give
you
the
link.
If
you
haven't
looked
at
the
comprehensive
plan
elements,
but
don't
get
discouraged
when
you
open
it
and
it's
you
know,
90
pages.
So
if
you,
you
would
just
flip
to
the
policies
and
you're
going
to
be
looking
at.
F
F
and
if
you
look
at
something
like
the
conservation
element,
you
look
through
to
the
wildlife
and
you're
going
to
see
a
list
and
a
description
of
every
species
of
fish,
that's
known,
to
occur
in
tarpon,
that's
kind
of
what
was
going
on
in
the
90s
when
plans
were
being
written.
That
is
what
that
that
was
part
of
what
happened
with
the
pushback
is.
Is
these
things
became
so
onerous
that
there
was
some
pushback?
F
F
We
combined
our
coastal
and
conservation,
the
public
schools.
We
have
that's
no
longer
required,
but
we
haven't
repealed
it
and
historic
resources
is
a
good
example.
That's
an
optional
element
that
we
wanted.
It's
always
been
optional
and
we
can
have
other
ones
like
economic
or
other
topics
that
we
want
to
address
a
couple
of
terms
just
to
kind
of
keep
as
these
come
up.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
any
questions
about
terms,
but
you
guys
are
pretty
familiar
with
these
types
of
concepts.
F
F
F
So
those
people
paid
impact,
a
library
impact
fee
and
eventually
the
city
would
add
a
computer
or
a
book
or
whatever
those
items
were
impact
fees
I
just
mentioned.
So
that's
for
new
development
to
pay
to
provide
for
new
facilities.
Only
pay
and
go
is
something
that
was
kind
of
adopted
and
community
planning
act
are
actually
made
more
available
where
a
developer
doesn't
there's
really
three
ways
to
serve
your
development.
One
is
that
the
city
builds
the
road
before
you
put
the
development
in,
and
you
wait
for
the
road
to
be
built.
F
The
developer
builds
the
road
or
the
developer
pays
for
the
road
to
be
built
and
then
goes
ahead
and
develops.
So
that's
the
pay
and
go
urban
sprawl
really
from
the
state
context,
and
when
you
read
the
comprehensive
plan,
you'll
see
the
words
urban
sprawl
all
over
the
place.
That
was
another
reaction
to
trying
to
comply
with
state
standards
really
means
extending
facilities.
F
F
You
know
a
wastewater
plant,
a
public
building
like
we're
in
those
types
of
capital
facilities,
so
the
tarpon
springs.
Land
development
code
implements
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
that
was
adopted
in
1990.
That's
appendix
a
if
you,
if
you
look
at
your
municipal
code
on
munico
you'll,
see
a
chapter
13
planning
in
a
chapter,
15,
trees
and
you'll
see
notes
in
there.
So
in
1990
those
previous
chapters
were
replaced
with
appendix
a
which
was
a
consolidated,
comprehensive.
F
F
So
and
the
intent
is
right
in
there
in
the
introduction
to
that
code
is
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
code
and
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Tarpon
springs.
F
Land
development
code,
history,
after
the
zoning
enabling
acts
in
the
20s
but
federal
and
state
levels,
our
first
land
development
code
and
map,
is
from
1944..
We
have
a
copy
in
the
office
if
you
ever
want
to
see
it,
there's
a
little
old
section
of
the
city
with
some
zones
and
everything
else
is
agriculture.
F
So
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
map
and
then
there
were
some
other
interim
re-adoptions
until
we
had
the
full
readoption
in
1990
and
you
all
are
familiar
with
zoning,
which
is
the
division
of
the
municipality
or
county
or
whatever.
It
is
into
districts
for
the
purpose
of
regulating
the
use
of
private
land.
That's
what
it's
for
specifies
the
uses,
bulk
standards,
all
those
types
of
things
in
each
zoning
district.
F
F
F
And
most
euclidean
zonings
follow
the
original
village
of
euclid
kind
of
model.
They've
got
separation
of
uses.
I
got
to
have
industrial
way
over
here
residential
way
over
there,
unlike
what
you
just
saw
with
the
last
application,
and
I've
got
to
have
a
list
of
very
specific
uses.
So,
instead
of
just
personal
service,
we
have
car
wash,
we
have
bowling
alleys.
These
are
just
some
of
the
ones.
We
have
a
fast
food
restaurant,
a
sit-down
restaurant.
F
F
F
But
our
other
system
is
a
form
based
code
which
is
based
on
a
transect
method
by
andre
duane,
and
this
is
our
special
area
planted
smart
code,
so
use
is
no
longer
specific.
Use
is
no
longer
the
primary
guiding
items
so
that
this
kind
of
recognizes,
for
example,
in
your
downtown
in
your
old
town
area,
that
there
was
a
mix
of
uses
that
did
occur
close
together,
primarily
because
there
were
no
automobiles
right.
So
a
lot
of
the
reason
for
euclidean
zoning
is
the
automobile.
F
I
can
go
anywhere,
you
know,
so
I
can
spread
things
out.
Form-Based
code
goes
back
to
bringing
the
street
relationship
and
building
placement
really
out
to
the
forefront,
so
form
is
overrides
used
to
some
extent,
and
this
results
in
a
mix
of
uses
and
really
the
conflicts
between
the
uses
are
dealt
with.
F
In
other
ways,
in
a
foreign-based
code,
so
we
do
have-
and
we'll
talk
a
little
more
about
this,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
interested
in
how
these
these
work
with
respect
to
specifically
in
the
city
like
we
were
saying,
we
have
the
character
districts
and
then
the
transects,
the
applica
application.
One
of
the
applications
we
just
talked
about
was
in
the
downtown
character
district
and
it's
got
multiple
transects.
So
that
gives
you
an
idea
of
how
that
operates.
F
Okay,
we're
getting
to
the
end,
so
every
local
government
has
to
designate
a
local
planning
agency
and
you
guys
are
designated.
So
this
is
your
mission,
which
you
have
accepted:
okay,
and
I
I'm
giving
you
the
url
to
the
statute.
But
the
statute
gives
you
certain
directives
to
do
you're
responsible
for
preparing
a
comprehensive
plan
or
plan
amendments
for
making
the
recommendations
to
the
governing
body
for
holding
public
hearings
and
ensuring
that
citizen
participation
process.
F
You
are
to
monitor
and
oversee
the
effectiveness
and
status
of
the
comp
plan
and
recommend
changes
from
time
to
time
and
also
the
evaluation
and
appraisal
process
which
is
still
it
still
exists
at
the
state
level.
It's
been
scaled
down
quite
a
bit,
but
that
still
exists,
and
you
are
also
to
review
the
land
development
code
and
make
recommendations
to
the
governing
body.
F
F
So
somebody
walks
in
our
office
and
says
hey
I
want
to
do
you
know
I
want
to
open
a
restaurant,
so
you
know
how
do
these
things
come
to
you?
What
kind
of
discussions
happen
and
and
how
are
these
prepared
and
brought
to
you
and
tying
back
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
also
to
the
rest
of
the
framework
of
city
government?
You've
got
two
three
other
boards.
F
F
There
sorry,
but
I
would
like
to
know
too
what
you
actually
want
me
to
bring
back
in
the
future
in,
in
addition
to
this.
G
Some
some
of
the
terminology
becomes,
you
know,
we're
lay
people
or
I
don't
know
I
am,
and
and
you
deal
with
this
every
day
and
the
terminology
you
deal
with
it
every
day,
and
sometimes
it's
re-educating
our
me
every
time
I
come
up
here
and-
and
you
know
the
terminology
that
we
use
when
we
look
at
these
applications,
and
so
I
I
would
imagine
you're
gonna
touch
on
on
those
too.
As
part
of
our
training.
A
With
the
redo
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
that's
that's
going
on
I'm
particularly
interested
in
seeing
that
we
all
get
more
knowledge
of
what
that
process
entails
and
and
what
properly
our
role
as
commissioners
should
be
in
the
preparation
and
approval
of
that
plan
in
in
hopes
that
that
we
can
be
a
little
more
involved
in
the
process.
Perhaps,
and
not
just
be
somebody
that
that
reviews
it
at
the
end.
F
C
I
enjoyed
that
very
much,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
yeah
and
that
that
was
a
great
start
and
I
look
forward
to
more
and
I
I
had
a
if
I
may
kind
of
a
comment,
because
I
think
you
said
hey
if
there's
something
you
want
to
hear
more
about.
So
this
is
just
kind
of
a
thought
experiment.
You
do
not
have
to
give
an
answer,
but
I
find
this
very,
very
curious
and
I
want
to
use
something
that
we
saw
tonight
in
our
agenda
as
kind
of
the
basis
for
that
thought.
C
Experiment,
and
that
is
the
area
north
of
anclote
river,
that's
being
developed,
and
there
was
some
references
to
this
very
unique
mixed
use,
light
industrial
residential
that
we
did
see,
and
that
was
very
creative
and
I
found
it
super
interesting
and
then,
of
course
my
neighbors
asked
a
very
honest
question
about
parks
and
rec,
and
I
used
to
go
out
to
that
area,
often
on
my
bike
as
part
of
a
bike
crew,
and
we
would
ride
that
road.
A
lot
you've
probably
haunted
us
once
before.
C
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
filling
out
the
leaves
on
the
tree
and
we're
going
to
work
on
that
and
talk
about
whether
they're,
red
or
green
and
how
big
and
how
small
and
if
they
can
be
together,
but
there's
never
any
discussion
about
the
trunks
or
the
veins
that
get
those
there
and
it
baffles
me
to
no
end
that
we'll
use
that
road
anclote
road,
that
big
housing
developments
are
being
built
on
a
road
that
is
completely
inadequate
and
barely
a
road
in
some
spots.
It
has
no
sidewalks,
no
easements,
no
multi-modal
whatsoever.
C
If
you're
a
biker
on
there,
you
take
your
life.
In
your
own
hand,
much
less.
You
were
a
family,
maybe
going
out
there,
and
so
we're
continuing
to
approve
more
and
more
and
more
complex
development,
residential,
but
there's
never
any
discussion
about
the
means
by
which
people
get
there
and
get
back
in
a
safe
manner
and
not
looking
for
an
answer.
But
as
planning
to
me,
that's
planning
is
how
are
we
planning
how
people
are
safely
getting
back
and
forth
and
maybe
those
people
that
need
to
take
a
bus,
for
example?
C
Okay.
So
that's
just
the
end
of
that.
That's
my
horse
and
I'm
gonna
ride
that
for
a
long
time
as
I
would
like
to
know
how
that
plays
in
and
how
we
as
planners
can
address
that
as
we
look
at
developments
that
have
transportation
impacts
on
our
community.
F
F
You
know
kind
of
a
problem
that
we
have
to
deal
with
does
pop
up,
in
my
mind,
is
in
tarpon
we
have
some.
We
have
mostly
city
roads
and
we
have
some
county
roads,
yeah
and
maybe
I'll
throw
that
map
up
too,
and
we
can
talk
about
that
because
so
you
guys
can
see
where
we
end
up
dealing
with
and
then
city
roads
and
county
roads
and
and
how
that
plays
into
it.
So
that
that's
a
great
question
I
like
that
one.
Thank
you.
A
Some
something
in
that
that
relates
very
much
to
that
is
that's
going
on
now,
I
know,
is
the
plans
are
being
drawn
for
improvements
to
anclote
road
and-
and
I
know
that's-
that's
not
really
within
our
purview.
I
don't
think
to
have
any
involvement
in
that,
except
it
it
would
be
of
interest
just
to
see
what's
going
on
with,
that
is,
as
that
gets.
If
I
guess
that's
the
county,
doing
that
probably.
C
D
F
I
Because
I
think
I
just
heard
you
say
a
little
while
ago
that
it
could
take
up
to
25
years
for
development,
I
think
kind
of
trying
to
get
that
structured
a
little
bit
more.
So
it
could
be
a
little
bit
shorter
because
they
they
talk
about
development
from
10
years
from
now.
We
don't
know
if
that
will
be
good
for
development
from
10
years
from
now.
I
A
F
Okay,
I
will
say
I
passed
out
a
schedule
earlier.
The
last.
Let's
see,
four
meetings
of
the
year
of
the
trc
have
been
moved
to
the
second
thursday
and
I'll
email
you
this
it's
a
little
small
printed
out.
This
was
judy's
schedule,
but
this
next
month
it
will
be
on
on
a
date
that
it
was
already
scheduled
august
5th.
But
if
you're
keeping
track
of
those
agendas,
remember,
we
said
they're
posted
online
about
a
week
before
the
meeting.
F
A
A
Absolutely
all
right
item
number
nine
we're
adjourned.